00:00 DAILY STATS AT 2024-11-26 00:00 UTC: Games: 321, Asc: 10, Scum: 9. 1252314 turns, 28041512 points. 13d 13:28 gametime. (35%Wiz), (43%Hum), (42%Cha), (53%Mal), 4d 23:59 remaining. 00:00 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed coffeebug the Spelunker in a deathmatch, on T:38088 00:00 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:00 [US] efot (Ran Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:41875 00:01 -!- blankman has joined #tnnt 00:01 ais523: Which edition? I'm curious where those rules are? 00:02 (that *is* an interesting rule. I did not know it either) 00:02 [US] hothraxxa (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5545 00:02 I mean, normally as I understand it, you can recharge them but it's a bit ad-hoc (ie, depends on DM and all that), and mostly involves ceremonies and spells and maybe scrolls. 00:03 And are expensive. 00:03 [US] eitbo (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:51639 00:03 ais523: think it depends on the type of wand in D&D as well as edition 00:03 also in D&D you don't get anywhere near as many wands as in nethack 00:04 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1040 points, 1403 turns, killed by a white unicorn 00:04 In one module I have, I think there is only ONE wand. And it's broken. 00:04 Made by gnomes in a wild magic area. 00:04 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:38526 00:04 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 00:05 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:38542 00:05 arahael: I can't even remember, possibly second? this was second-hand information that everyone was assuming, there were lots of stat blocks which said "would never use the last charge on the wand" 00:05 -!- Furey92 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:06 but it was ages ago now 00:06 ais523: Let me ask someone. 00:06 [US] aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "master key of thievery", on T:989 00:06 it might have been specific to a certain campaign setting, thinking about it 00:06 [US] [D]: aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 596 points, 990 turns, killed by touching The Master Key of Thievery 00:06 second edition had lots of campaign-setting-specific rules that were just assumed 00:07 but yes, recharging a wand in D&D isn't as simple as using a scroll of charging[ 00:07 If it were as simple as that, that would be a damned expensive scroll 00:07 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:38714 00:08 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Geryon, on T:38728 00:08 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 00:09 Off the top of his head, my friend can't think of wands ever being rechargeable. So it's fairly inconsistent. Lets see if I can prod his memory a bit more... 00:09 in 5e wands tend to recharge themselves, the rate varies though 00:09 Yeah, either at the end of the day or at a long rest. 00:10 did early editions have a spell/scroll of charging like in nethack? I thought that was fairly unique to nethack 00:10 In Solasta, a CRPG which follows the 5e SRD quite well, the wands recharge during a long rest. 00:11 [US] [D]: aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 482 points, 109 turns, killed by a rabid rat 00:12 Neverwinter Nights (the Bioware one – I think there are two games with that name) can't recharge wands, but rods recharge while resting (and it doesn't distinguish between short and long rests – a "rest" in that game is the equivalent of a day in 3.5e, but you can do it much more often) 00:12 [US] a1 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:55793 00:12 A "rest" in 5e is basically an hour or more. And there's 24 hours in a day. 00:12 -!- Changesite has quit [Quit: Changesite] 00:13 Except youd on't have to rest every day, either. (You risk exhaustion) 00:13 I used to speedrun Neverwinter Nights, one of the big glitch discoveries was when we found ways to rest without waiting for the animation 00:13 [US] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12629 00:13 [US] a1 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:55829 00:13 (there are multiple methods but the simplest is to save and reload in the middle of the rest) 00:14 it doesn't just save time, it also lets you rest in moments when you would be interrupted if you tried to do it normally 00:14 ais523: Could I have a recommendation of that game? To add to my list. :) 00:15 [US] [D]: aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 299 points, 575 turns, killed by a homunculus 00:15 I notice the Enchanced Edition is on steam. 00:16 arahael: are you asking my advice on whether it's a good game? I enjoyed the gameplay, the story is a little suspect but doesn't massively get in the way, it won't survive really heavy replaying unless you speedrun it but does survive a few playthroughs 00:16 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:12908 00:16 ais523: Well, there's multiple editions, and I want to get more familiar with the D&D world. 00:16 it's surprisingly accurate to 3.5e D&D combat rules – not entirely the same, occasionally by accident, occasionally by choice, but much more accurate than you'd expect from a computer game 00:16 [US] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:12914 00:17 ais523: So I guess I'm asking which one you found "best". 00:17 [US] [D]: aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 270 points, 304 turns, killed by a contact-poisoned spellbook 00:17 [US] habibOotC (Ran Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:36427 00:17 I do notice though that the Enchanced Edition has french audio. My wife might like that. 00:17 [US] habibOotC (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:36428 00:17 do you mean in terms of Neverwinter Nights or D&D? 00:17 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:17 [US] cpittman (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10345 00:17 ais523: I'm hoping for insights into Neverwinter, in D&D. 00:18 I'm still not sure I understand the question 00:18 D&D itself is a ruleset that has been adapted to a range of different fictional settings 00:18 ais523: Yes, but Faerun is a very common setting. 00:19 Neverwinter is a city in Faerun. 00:19 ah, yes 00:19 [US] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:48310 00:19 [US] dpmdpm (Bar Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "the blessed orb of fate", on T:26150 00:19 [US] dpmdpm (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "the blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:26150 00:19 the game visits various places in Faerun but I think it's mostly just a case of borrowing their names, the locations contain what they need to contain for the game to work 00:20 [US] dpmdpm (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "the blessed rustproof +2 Magicbane", on T:26151 00:20 Ah, so probably not that useful then, if I'm after material for my games. 00:20 right, I don't think it'd inspire that much material 00:20 I think books are probably most useful for me but D&D books are frequently badly written. :( 00:20 -!- Bleeko has joined #tnnt 00:21 [US] dpmdpm (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:26155 00:21 chapter 2 has some really memorable locations, but also some really generic ones 00:21 -!- a-1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:21 [US] [D]: elmegil (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2713 points, 3684 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 00:21 but I don't know whether the memorable ones were created for the game or not (with the generic ones it's hard to tell) 00:21 My favourite "D&D style" game remains Betrayal at Krondor. Which is firmly set in Raymond Feist's "Magician" books. 00:21 [US] [D]: aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1098 points, 206 turns, killed by a barrow wight (and one other game not reported) 00:21 That's not Faerun, either, though. 00:22 [US] dpmdpm (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "the blessed orb of fate", on T:26159 00:22 [US] [D]: nabru (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 302 points, 131 turns, killed by a falling rock 00:23 chapter 1 is basically "this part of the city is full of escaped prisoners, this part of the city is full of pirates, this part of the city is full of zombies, this part of the city is suspiciously untouched" 00:23 and you could do that with pretty much any fantasy city, I suspect – there's nothing about it that obviously makes it Neverwinter 00:23 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:19436 00:23 That's a bit uninspired. 00:23 Indeed. 00:23 [US] dpmdpm (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:26214 00:24 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 00:24 as I said, the storyline is a bit suspect 00:24 Fiar. 00:24 BG3 remains the best of the graphical flashy computer D&D's, then 00:24 is it possible to wish for a magic lamp from a throne wish? 00:25 not usefully 00:25 bouquet: Not in tnnt, I think. 00:25 bouquet: (It's an evil'ism, and maybe other variants as well?) 00:25 [US] [D]: aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 572 points, 271 turns, killed by an orc shaman 00:25 I can't remember whether you get an oil lamp, or whether you get a magic lamp that doesn't light 00:25 darn my human eyes 00:25 but in neither case do you get what you want 00:26 [US] habibOotC (Ran Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:36665 00:26 I kind-of like the way magic lamps are unwishable, it gives an incentive to not try to take the wish from one if you find it 00:26 xnh lets you wish for magic lamps but I have had too many arguments with people who don't understand math thinking it means you can get free oil lamps forever or a guaranteed "banked" wish 00:27 even if it did let you get infinite free oil lamps, would that even be useful? :-D 00:27 an 80% banked wish might be useful in some cases 00:28 Plus infinite light, which makes play less fiddlyy 00:28 sure, I'm content to allow people who got a wish off a throne to "store it for later" and risk the 20% chance they actually get nothing 00:28 but I'm not surprised that there are people who can't tell the difference between 80% and 100% 00:28 [US] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:13626 00:28 I enjoy less fiddly 00:28 maybe infinite oil lamps would be useful to overflow the wish counter 00:28 what type of integer is that even 00:29 a long 00:29 the turn counter would hit the limit first, I think 00:29 so in 3.7 the game would terminate before you overflowed 00:29 [US] [D]: stoicjin (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 80 points, 379 turns, killed by a kobold 00:29 "You used -1 wishes." 00:30 I wonder whether saturating the turn counter would make more sense than just ending the game 00:30 but the limit is so high it'll never be hit unless players are doing something *really* weird 00:30 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:13902 00:31 I'm beginning to think the optimist/pessimist/engineer saying should be "how can I break the glass" rather than "the glass is twice as big as it needs to be" 00:31 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:41911 00:31 it's what QA does, after all 00:32 [US] qt (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:48180 00:32 [US] habibOotC (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:36742 00:33 nabru: now I'm imagining someone writing "in case of emergency, break glass" on an ordinary empty glass tumbler 00:33 hahahahahaha 00:34 [US] [A]: habibOotC (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1338744 points, 36753 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/habibOotC/tnnt/dumplog/1731846939.tnnt.html 00:34 [US] [D]: recuerdo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 278185 points, 51577 turns, poisoned by a pit viper 00:35 [US] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:14087 00:35 <@recuerdo> [screaming] 00:35 <@recuerdo> but gg habib 00:36 <@habib0338> thx @subwayfares 00:36 gg 00:36 get trap doored off rogue level into throne room, don't have stealth so everyone's waking up 00:36 self-zap tele at myself, end up... right outside said throne room 00:36 and by the third scroll! 00:38 [US] rebrane (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:345 00:38 I like how thematic it is for the devteam office to be next to the rogue level 00:39 it's like they set up there when there was only Rogue, and built NetHack around it 00:41 [US] peterg (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Dictyostelium's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:6227 00:41 [US] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:49672 00:44 [US] dpmdpm (Bar Hum Mal Neu) removed Grouchy's uncursed -1 pair of levitation boots from the swap chest, on T:27237 00:45 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15356 00:46 [US] [D]: eitwinston (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1064 points, 2395 turns, killed by a wand 00:46 [US] jmcunx (Arc Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3017 00:47 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 844 points, 3022 turns, killed by a giant ant 00:48 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Mon Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a red mold, on T:21815 00:48 -!- Haudegen has quit [Quit: Bin weg.] 00:49 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:49 [US] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) wished for "amulet of reflection", on T:49749 00:50 -!- nabru has quit [Quit: nabru vanishes!] 00:50 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 00:51 [US] karibou (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:35119 00:51 -!- nabru has joined #tnnt 00:51 [US] [D]: rebrane (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1368 points, 2581 turns, killed by a killer bee 00:52 [US] rebrane (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5 00:52 [US] bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a jackal, on T:16241 00:53 hah, ais! 00:53 :D 00:53 woof 00:53 * tinklebear pets bouquet 00:54 [US] joq (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful elf zombie, on T:36977 00:55 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:16006 00:55 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:16007 00:55 @recuerdo that sounds like an absolutely brutal way to end. mind if I look at the dumplog? 00:56 "51577 turns, poisoned by a pit viper" 00:56 ah, they were going for foodless 00:56 <@recuerdo> yeah that's fine 00:56 so couldn't easily get poison resistance from eating corpses 00:56 <@recuerdo> I feel like an idiot because I had gotten a ring of poison resistance before, but 00:57 <@recuerdo> I didn't put it on and I was about to try to get crowned 00:57 :( 00:57 man, yeah 00:57 oof. brutal 00:57 [US] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:49975 00:57 $lastgame recuerdo 00:57 tinklebear: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/recuerdo/tnnt/dumplog/1732504632.tnnt.html 00:57 [US] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:49980 00:57 murkytown is best minetown 00:57 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:58 (the partially darkened one) 00:59 <@recuerdo> ooh ya 00:59 <@recuerdo> lots of good shops 01:00 Hourly Stats at 2024-11-26 01:00 UTC: Games: 16, Asc: 1, Scum: 0. 104397 turns, 1627675 points. (44%Dwa), 4d 22:59 remaining. 01:01 I just like its vibe, and all the open space 01:02 if it's the one I'm thinking of, I don't like where the downstairs are 01:02 in that little northern room, ais? 01:02 yes 01:02 <@recuerdo> and there are lots of nooks and crannies, which I like 01:02 it's a bit illogical to put the downstairs behind a locked door, when there are guards who get angry at you for trying to open it 01:02 heh, I never thought of that 01:02 <@recuerdo> that's fair, if you wanted to unlock that door I wouldn't be too mad about it 😉 01:02 I usually wait for the guards to hide, then destroy the door 01:03 I also get annoyed at it because I keep forgetting where the door is 01:03 err, where the stairs are 01:03 [US] joq (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:37071 01:03 like, which room they're in 01:03 it seems potentially unfair on unspoiled players who may not realise that there *is* a way further down… 01:03 [US] joq (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:37073 01:04 That's not in tnnt is it? 01:04 [US] [D]: habibOotC (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 390 points, 1175 turns, killed by a bat 01:04 it is, arahael 01:04 Oh wow! 01:04 evilhack too? 01:04 [US] [D]: eitwinston (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1361 points, 2064 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 01:05 yeah 01:05 evil too 01:05 Well, there you go. I've been playing for 2 decades. Never knew this. 01:05 :D 01:05 and hello, arahael! 01:05 [US] karibou (Cav Dwa Fem Law) removed eitbrad's uncursed ring of conflict from the swap chest, on T:35500 01:05 Alas, current game is orctown, so no murkytown. 01:05 tinklebear: Hey! :P 01:05 arahael, i'm confused. never knew what? 01:05 hothraxxa: Never knew it. 01:06 hothraxxa: I never knew about murkytown. 01:06 Might've come across a mention or two in the other chats actually but I kind of assumed it was a slash'em thing. 01:06 the name on the wiki is grotto town and i'm sure you're familiar with it 01:06 I am not. 01:06 yes you are. look it up 01:06 minetown variants don't really have established names I think, although some of them may have names in the source code 01:06 I kicked that door open when I thought the guards weren't looking in my current game 01:07 but they were looking...\ 01:07 "monkeytown" is fairly well established but I don't think it's official 01:07 they habe names on the wiki 01:07 have 01:07 i think those names are in the code 01:07 so I discovered how chaotics can kill all the watch without "murder" 01:07 wiki schmiki 01:07 Oooh... A minetown *variant*. 01:07 tis lots of fun indeed 01:07 lol, Grasshopper 01:07 Rather than a second downstairs from minetown. 01:08 hothraxxa: You're correct. 01:08 *and* i never lie 01:08 Ha. 01:08 looks like there are official names: Orcish Town, Town Square, Alley Town, College Town, Grotto Town, Bustling Town, Bazaar Town 01:08 ok. well, there was this one time at band camp 01:09 [US] [D]: rebrane (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 2360 points, 2249 turns, killed by a fire ant 01:09 I don't recognise at least one of those (and don't think I've ever seen people not abbreviate Orcish Town to "orctown") 01:09 <@Loggers_VIII> is alley town monkey town? 01:09 and you call yourself a dev team member 01:10 *smh* 01:11 bazaar town is monkey town 01:11 I'm not a devteam member but I'm very familiar with all the official names 01:11 ^^^ 01:11 you need to commit more changes to minetn-*.lua 01:12 <@Loggers_VIII> oh, so it is 01:12 [US] joq (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:37746 01:12 to be clear, ais523, i was just being a smartass. i realized after you might take that differently 01:12 <@Loggers_VIII> bazaar town has some alley like bits tbf 01:12 so if offense was given i apologise 01:12 <@Loggers_VIII> ohhhhh it’s bazaar town cuz of the monkeys I’m slow 01:12 oh, I wasn't offended, although I might have misunderstood 01:13 I know that I tried to spoil myself by reading the desfiles, when I started out playing NetHack 01:13 it didn't help much 01:13 (I also got some spoilers from the Guidebook, like the fact that drawbridges exist, which likewise weren't very useful) 01:14 i was as heavily spoiled as i could get when i started (pre-wiki) 01:14 after two attempts i was scouring for spoilers 01:15 which worked out well for me. i ascended my twelfth game 01:15 [US] stagnate (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:35355 01:15 -!- elron has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:15 [US] [D]: Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 168 points, 524 turns, killed by a falling rock 01:15 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed peterg the human, and former Raider, on T:46263 01:17 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:34453 01:17 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34457 01:18 [US] [D]: aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 782 points, 702 turns, killed by a vampire 01:19 I actually can't remember how I became spoiled 01:19 I did read through the steelypips spoilers, but those are more mechanics than strategy advice 01:20 -!- a-1 has joined #tnnt 01:20 SHIT! Haha. 01:21 You feel threatened. You feel very attracted to the succubus. 01:21 hothraxxa: twelfth???? 01:21 so... I'm scaroused? 01:21 [US] jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:26377 01:21 Fat-fingered wield. Instead resized the window, and hit e instead of w. 01:21 yeah. gnome healer 01:21 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 1438875 points, 58710 turns, petrified by tasting cockatrice meat 01:22 wow. took me 19years from hack on the old 68k sun4s until I finally ascended 01:22 granted, I didn't get serious until towards the end 01:22 i followed the maniac's ascension guide, which i know pinkbeast really has issues with (is pinkbeast here?) but it worked really well for me 01:22 [US] [D]: eitwinston (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1136 points, 1790 turns, killed by a blue jelly 01:23 $lastgame Arahael 01:23 nabru: [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/tnnt/dumplog/1732271079.tnnt.html 01:23 I feel your pain 01:23 I lost a very good game by pressing 'e' instead of 'w' when trying to wield a cockatrice corpse 01:23 It was the best game. 01:23 [US] [D]: aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 260 points, 674 turns, killed by a succubus 01:23 yeesh. F 01:24 I was nearly getting every scroll, every glass, every gem, every stone... 01:24 wow, horrible typo 01:24 I once lost a game to eating the same cockatrice corpse twice – that's what lead me to try to design NH4's controls to be unambiguous with what key sequences meant 01:24 I still feel that there should be ONE turn to eat a lizard and recover. :( 01:25 I mean, you can be bashed bloody blue with a 'trice, and you're fine ,for a turn or two. 01:25 trice stoning follows fairly consistent rules – if it's your fault, it's insta-stoning, otherwise it's slow stoning 01:26 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:26 ais523: I think it should be always slow stoning, I prefer the evil rules there, except even evil makes eating it instant. 01:26 this isn't really logical from an in-world perspective, but insta-stoning you if it isn't your fault would be unfun from a gameplay perspective 01:27 the other way round would be fine gameplay-wise but would likely upset a lot of people (the same people who like floating eyes to be dark blue instadeaths) 01:27 [US] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered Fluffy, his faithful kitten, on T:2311 01:27 [US] Grouchy (Bar Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 1188 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:49910 01:28 the easybabyhack complaint brigade 01:28 Then again, I think stoning resistance is an intrinsic in evil. 01:29 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 01:29 [US] [D]: aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 657 points, 474 turns, trampled to death by an angry box 01:29 [US] karibou (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:36747 01:30 [US] [D]: Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1266 points, 3041 turns, killed by a gold golem (and 3 other games not reported) 01:30 [US] eitwinston (Ran Gno Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1167 01:31 [US] [D]: aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 795 points, 156 turns, killed by a manes 01:32 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a leprechaun, on T:3039 01:32 [US] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:29659 01:32 wonderful. I was just leaving the level, after encountering a red dragon... 01:33 Bleeko, I nearly did the same thing last asc, typoing e instead of w to wield a cockstrice corpse 01:33 (...but of course I, and my horse, had to hit the poly trap on our way out) 01:33 know what saved me? Food Appraisal intrinsic 01:33 warned me the corpse was a bit off 01:33 oh my god, that's amazing 01:33 but then just after, I managed to stimble onto a land mine 01:34 while wielding the c 01:34 I used to get food appraisal intentionally specifically because of that 01:34 luck of the grasshopper 01:34 "this corpse smells a rather petrifying. really eat?" 01:34 ... and life saving saved me 01:34 but, I lose it too often on acidic corpses, or the second bite of rotten corpses 01:34 Yea, I died to a trice today through derp. Waited till it started to stone me for the ach, ate my liz, then killed it. 01:34 get this, I thought the land mine square was safe because Id seen monsters on it 01:34 but they were flying dragons, didn't set the mine off 01:34 at least it made the accidentally-eating-c-corpse-prevention code easy to write in AceHack, I just removed the check for having food appraisal 01:35 Walked over to pick up my daggers, and w/o gloves just picked up everything 01:35 oh yeah. that plus even walking monsters often get away with stepping on traps 01:35 normally I don;t wander with c corpses, but this proves that every time you do something silly, RNG will get you 01:35 monsters have an appallingly low chance to set off a land mine 01:36 I have a protocol where I never walk while wielding. Always 'x' move 'x' hit 'x' move, etc 01:36 okay. so I'm a leprechaun. wearing a single ring. 01:36 I'm overloaded 01:36 wtf 01:36 1 in 3 iirc. i looked it up because i was hoping to mine the run-up alley in the deathmatch 01:36 yeah normally same for me, one slip and you're done 01:37 [US] [D]: aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1230 points, 402 turns, killed by an orc mummy (and 2 other games not reported) 01:37 leprechauns can't lift a ring?? 01:37 i try to leviatet if i wield a c corpse 01:37 my protocol involves the corpse being in the bag except when I'm actively using it 01:37 or levitiate 01:37 "There is a steel ring here, but it is too heavy for you to lift." 01:37 or float in the air somehow 01:37 tinklebear: I don't know for certain, but it wouldn't surprise me if they couldn't lift anything but gold 01:37 [backscroll] evilhack - Wands in general can only be zapped once when at zero charges in an attempt to wrest them - the wand turns to dust afterward whether successful or not, but the odds of a successful wrest from zapping are dependent on its BUC status (1⁄7 chance when cursed, 1⁄6 chance when uncursed, and 1⁄5 chance when blessed). 01:38 "There are 79 gold pieces here, but even one is too heavy for you to lift." 01:38 [US] [D]: aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 335 points, 114 turns, killed by a monkey 01:38 hmm, do they have a carry cap of 0 or something? 01:38 (I just noticed: I have wounded legs, from falling off the horse) 01:38 Also don't leave corpses around. Had a captain or other @ with gloves pick one up and slap me before 01:38 oh, that could be it? 01:38 K2: what's up with your slashes 01:38 must be the wounded legs, yeah 01:39 right, if you have gloves to pick the c corpse up, the safest place is in your bag 01:39 use the / character to talk about wands man 01:39 it's a copy/paste from thw iki 01:39 leprechauns are also very very small 01:39 but they usually can lift gold, can carry a single ring 01:39 no I know it's the wounded legs 01:39 this may be a bug in wounded legs status, it may not be adapting the amount of lost carry cap based on polyform 01:40 just that they're tiny enough for that to be a major factor 01:40 I am going to have to read through the #tnnt logs post-tournament and make a note of all the bugs discovered, there are so many 01:40 yes, but if your legs are smaller, you logically should lose less carry cap due to a leg injury 01:41 [US] eitwinston (Ran Gno Mal Neu) destroyed rebrane's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:1922 01:41 ½ 01:41 [US] efot (Ran Gno Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:42654 01:42 ais523 - bugs that alsi exist in 3.7? 01:42 *also 01:42 [US] joq (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:39647 01:42 K2: I would have to check to see which ones have already been fixed 01:42 at least one of them wasn't 01:42 k 01:43 it's worth noting that if a 3.6 bug was fixed for 3.7, I would have received an email about the fix – often I mentally gloss over those, but there is a chance I would recognise the bug as having been fixed 01:43 ais523, no no I agree 01:44 [US] efot (Ran Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:42775 01:44 unless the bug got fixed coincidentally due to an unrelated change 01:45 e.g. a bug in the special level loader might well become moot due to the change to Lua 01:45 [US] karibou (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:37834 01:47 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 01:48 [US] karibou (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:37901 01:51 [US] jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed drum of earthquake", on T:28807 01:51 [US] eitm9l (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:12015 01:53 [US] Bourne (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a hill orc corpse, on T:3331 01:54 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:20883 01:54 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:46952 01:54 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20884 01:56 -!- shadowcat has joined #tnnt 01:57 [US] [D]: crunchbubba (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 2055 points, 4669 turns, killed by a fire ant 01:58 [US] eitwinston (Ran Gno Mal Neu) destroyed xororand's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2503 02:00 Hourly Stats at 2024-11-26 02:00 UTC: Games: 24, Asc: 0, Scum: 6. 76988 turns, 1452125 points. (44%Dwa), 4d 21:59 remaining. 02:01 [US] Umbire (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:30246 02:01 [US] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:2259 02:03 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:21602 02:03 -!- Furey has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:04 [US] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2584 02:04 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 02:06 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law), 1512 points, 2692 turns, poisoned by a little dart 02:06 [US] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:51055 02:06 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 02:08 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:3691 02:09 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:12 [US] [D]: recuerdo (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 481 points, 2142 turns, killed by a giant ant 02:14 [US] [D]: Bourne (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3558 points, 5882 turns, killed by a dwarf lord (and 4 other games not reported) 02:16 -!- elron has joined #tnnt 02:18 [US] [D]: Bourne (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 212 points, 598 turns, killed by a newt 02:18 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 02:18 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:21719 02:19 [US] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) murdered Smoot, his faithful kitten, on T:5592 02:19 [US] [D]: recuerdo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 274 points, 757 turns, killed by a jackal 02:19 -!- Furey28 has joined #tnnt 02:20 -!- Furey has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:21 [US] a1 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:57905 02:23 -!- JackOfClubs has joined #tnnt 02:26 [US] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:1671 02:26 [US] [D]: recuerdo (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 217 points, 583 turns, killed by a sewer rat (and one other game not reported) 02:26 [US] [D]: Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 689 points, 1699 turns, killed by a giant bat (and 2 other games not reported) 02:27 [US] Urc (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:42268 02:30 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:31 [US] [D]: recuerdo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 145 points, 617 turns, killed by a small mimic (and one other game not reported) 02:31 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 741 points, 2184 turns, killed by an elf zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:32 [US] bleeko (Ran Orc Mal Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:8384 02:34 -!- Nidan has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:34 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:37955 02:36 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:6307 02:37