00:03 <@Dictyostelium> aoo good 00:03 <@Dictyostelium> no worries 00:03 <@Dictyostelium> all* 00:03 hm. when i login i see my beta games 00:03 -!- eitbo has joined #tnnt 00:03 <@Dictyostelium> was a slack game 00:03 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 00:04 is clan signup open? 00:04 will be in a moment 00:04 yippee 00:04 i havent wiped/reset the scoreboard yet 00:06 rip my dwa valk "last call" 3 minute speedrun attempt (i got stock on a boulder) 00:06 <@Dictyostelium> hehe. Knight here. was doing ok, found a random BoH on the floor in main dungeon! 00:06 <@Dictyostelium> but nothing lost, still very eary game 00:07 I shoulda paid more attention to announcements, I was sorting my ascension kit with a Lvl30 wiz 00:07 such is beta testing life! 00:09 clan signup is open 00:10 woohoo! 00:10 -!- oh6 has joined #tnnt 00:11 sorry im too busy mourning the loss of my 7:59 dwa valk run 00:11 team splat more like 00:11 team lame 00:11 we should just start a day early tbh 00:11 improved tin openers, more like inferior tin openers 00:13 i got myself hyped for no reason over clan signup and it's still 24 hours until kickoff :( 00:14 aww 00:14 dont you have important halloween stuff to do that you wouldn't want to overlap with tnnt? 00:15 lol tnnt for me starts on halloween 00:15 probably won't even be there at the very start, taking little brother trick or treating 00:16 <@arthurdayne18> Good thing I get home from work right around the time tournament starts. Should be able to start my first game about 10 mins after it starts 00:17 hey now! your trash talk is saucy but my trash talk will defeat you 00:21 my wedding anniversary is nov 1st 00:21 so i get to miss most of 1st day 00:21 but it means I'll get laid, so i'm ok with it 00:22 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:23 -!- qt has joined #tnnt 00:23 -!- mode/#tnnt [+o qt] by ChanServ 00:24 TNNT is just around the corner . . . 00:24 wewp 00:26 -!- Furey has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:27 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 00:32 \o/ 00:33 alrighty 00:33 everything is ready to go 00:35 Loggers_VIII: https://youtu.be/XGbqGkS1c2w 00:40 lmao 00:41 -!- iridium.libera.chat changed the topic on #tnnt to: Welcome to 'The November NetHack Tournament' :: public irc logs available at https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/irclog :: https://tnnt.org :: TNNT 2024 beta opens 15th October at midnight UTC :: TNNT 2023 shirts now available to order! https://hardfought.org/shop 00:41 -!- mode/#tnnt [+o Croesus] by ChanServ 00:41 I will beat teamsplat even if no one accepts my invites and I have to play alone >:( 00:42 never! we already have members! 00:43 teamsplat has too many diehard loyalists, I can't compete with that :( 00:44 i will die hard many times, i wager 00:44 me too. maybe i'll win a game or two though 00:45 in beta i was reminded how much about vanilla i've forgotten 00:45 eg i'm not a vampire any more, i fall in pits 00:46 i was reminded of how ass poison instadeath and floating eyes are 00:47 in evilhack after you eat your first eyeball you're basically never at risk of running into one from around a corner cuz you can detect them with telepathy 00:47 -!- Bleeko has joined #tnnt 00:47 yeah same in hackem, which is what i've been playing 00:47 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 00:48 hackem takes a lot from evilhack 00:48 not always the nice stuff 00:48 (fuck alhoons) 00:48 eww 00:49 <@post163> We'll see if my clan (if I join one) beats teamsplat - the only thing I am sure of is deaths galore. What's everyone's favorite variant? 00:49 I love evilhack 00:49 dnethack is really good too but it's still pretty overwhelming to me 00:49 NH4 but I'm biased 00:50 I quite like 3.7 too, but I'm biased there too :-) 00:50 i think mine might be grunthack 00:50 -!- crunchbubba42 has joined #tnnt 00:50 grunthack used to be my fav 00:50 Still have a soft spot for spork 00:50 same 00:51 is grunt the one where you can get like water walking boots of magic resistance and stuff? 00:51 i hate spork. i might have mentioned this before 00:51 if i had to choose and not pick my own variant (evilhack), i'd prob go with unnethack 00:51 I have heard of your hatred of spork but I forget the reasoning 00:51 * tinklebear probably hasn't played enough variants to have a favorite 00:52 I'm going to give honorable mentions to xnethack and splicehack 00:52 well the straw that broke the camel's back was getting a tinfoil hat for the mitre of holiness 00:52 hothraxxa hates because he's 00:52 pick one 00:52 :) 00:52 hothraxxa: well my hatred of Spork ended up inspiring AceHack, which in turn set forth a whole series of events with mostly positive outcomes 00:52 i'll take really old for $200 00:53 but yeah the mitre of holiness spawning as a tinfoil hat is kinda savage 00:53 Back in the day that was big money 00:53 ais523: i like your variants 00:53 AceHack was explicitly a reaction to people making variants too difficult, though 00:53 mitre of holiness but bad instead of mediocre 00:53 <@post163> I like splicehack due to the dragon rider. I also enjoy dnethack, notdnethack, and notnotdnethack for the drow female noble. Honorable mention goes to nh4 for being able to die to a newt or a kobold on turn 1. My least favorite by far is Fourk since I cannot play every role. 00:53 also I feel like a significant proportion of my changes to NetHack itself make it easier 00:53 I don't think there's such a thing as a 'too difficult' variant 00:54 for you 00:54 well, it comes down to "too difficult for what"? 00:54 lol that regen change made vanilla lategame way harder 00:54 for me it's not difficulty, it's how painful the game is to play 00:54 * tinklebear likes dnethack because you can start a samurai with polearm and knife, but doesn't like dnethack's hallucination effects on inventory 00:54 "too difficult for anyone to ascend" might be just about possible while keeping people interested in trying, but it would need really extensive changes or really significant changes 00:54 as long as the difficulty is fair and enjoyable to play with, you could make a variant 1000x harder than evilhack and I would play it 00:55 "too difficult for ais523 to enjoy" is much easier 00:55 i suspect nerfhack might be really difficult 00:55 we'll see. the changelog is massive 00:55 I have been watching nerfhack from the shadows and came to the same conclusion 00:56 Loggers_VIII: the regen change was meant to make lategame more difficult in the sense of needing more thought to beat reliably – I don't think it increases the difficulty to the point where a player who can beat the early game reliably can't beat the late game reliably, though 00:56 i think it'll be harder than vanilla but not evilhack hard 00:56 dunno 00:56 I missed nerfhack, somehow 00:56 it's not out yet 00:56 as did I 00:56 it's not released 00:56 <@d_i_s_p_e_r_s_e> The Splendor of Yendor has been formed and is accepting applications! 00:56 ais523: yeah, sounds about right. all it really does is make lategame go from "almost no thought" to "a decent amount of thought" required 00:57 what is this regen change of which you speak? 00:57 I am actually surprised how much of a difference fairly small changes make to Gehennom, like the regen change, or halving the potion drop rate 00:57 can't regen multiple hit points a turn 00:57 hothraxxa: in the 3.7 late game, your natural HP regeneration rate is lower 00:58 it becomes slower than 3.4.3/3.6 somewhere around xlvl 10, I think, and is generally slightly faster before then 00:58 ah. thanks 00:58 but the 3.4.3 regen rate shoots up really quickly around quest time, and by the time you reach Gehennom is fast enough to mostly make combat irrelevant 00:58 whereas the 3.7 regen rate doesn't 00:58 <@d_i_s_p_e_r_s_e> I ask every year, is there a team size limit in TNNT? 00:58 optional ludios-style one-level gehennom challenge branch with magic marker reward when 00:58 disperse: I believe it's 12 00:59 @d_i_s_p_e_r_s_e: yes, I can't remember what it is but there's definitely al imit 00:59 i've been playing vampires and they regenerate quickly. i was distressed playing tnnt beta and healing s`o damned slowly 00:59 <@d_i_s_p_e_r_s_e> Thanls Loggers, we're never close to that. 00:59 it is 12 00:59 my genius surprises even me 00:59 SPUER Genius 00:59 (sighs) 00:59 lol 00:59 lol 01:00 <@post163> $time 01:00 @post163: 2024-10-31 01:00:11 UTC. 2024 Tournament begins in 0d 22:59:48 01:00 I am just gonna send invites to every good player that signs up and hope for the best 01:00 ...though I don't even know most of these people :p 01:00 the inverse of the classic Junethack strategy of sending invites to every bad player who signs up :-D 01:00 (checks his invites) 01:01 pffft 01:01 junethack was fun this year 01:01 It was 01:01 * hothraxxa shakes fist at crunchbubba 01:01 I wasn't feeling it this year, unfortunately 01:01 lol 01:01 i wasnt either :/ 01:01 crunchninja 01:01 i couldnt even tell you what happened in junethack this year 01:01 I am not sure whether I'll participate in this year's TNNT, I am somewhat distracted with trying to figure out how to optimise ttyrecs 01:02 I wasn't either but I pretended I was :P 01:02 I have been doing so much research on terminals recently 01:03 (I did a lot of research on terminals about 10 years ago, too – I am repeating it except this time I might actually know what I'm doing) 01:03 <@post163> Long story short I played ~2/3 of all junethack games - so many that my clan leader asked me to leave temporarily. 01:03 You mean like old hardware terminals? vt220 etc? 01:03 Bleeko: the modern programs which emulate them, mostly 01:04 Ah 01:04 lots of information about the old terminals turns up in the process, especially because some of the modern programs try to emulate them to a degree that no longer makes sense 01:04 <@d_i_s_p_e_r_s_e> Were you glitching the Clan stats page? Integer overflow errors? 01:04 except that they simultaneously try to support UTF-8, which wasn't invented at the time 01:06 post163 played so many games that in the nefarious end I was getting timeout error on the clan page 01:07 utf8 was begotten, not made. it wasn't invented, it was discovered. back then they didn't know about the ☃ fundamental to being 01:09 <@d_i_s_p_e_r_s_e> The server couldn't stream that much data before the 30 second default timeout elapsed. 01:09 I vaguely remember UTF-8 being invente dfor use in Plan 9 01:10 "Good Sir Knight, thou hast been so valiant, so steadfast, so ... vigorous ... in thy labors." 01:10 "Allow us to bestow upon thee this voucher. Tis good for a three-day holiday in NOT-IN-THIS-CLANISTAN" 01:10 That's exactly correct ais523 01:10 and I am upset that the "there are multiple sequences that naively decode to the same character" bug wasn't fixed, because nowadays every UTF-8 decoder has to recognise and discard the redundant sequences so that people don't use them to sneak past filters 01:11 it's too late to fix it now 01:12 Demo, is that a snowman or a set of calipers? 01:13 "the fundamental to being" 01:15 * tinklebear looks it up, discovers it really is a snowman 01:15 I feel like the primary reason UTF-8 caught on is that the other variable-byte-length Unicode encodings were designed to be backwards-compatible with theory, whereas UTF-8 was designed to be backwards-compatible with practice and ignored the standards 01:16 anyway, I have been getting increasingly upset at the "keyboard → terminal → program" direction of terminal control codes (as opposed to "program → terminal → screen" which is slightly messy but salvageable) 01:17 the de-facto standard for keycodes a) violates the de-jure standards (which nobody implements), and b) is hopelessly and inherently ambiguous 01:21 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:27 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 01:29 -!- Furey has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:34 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:36 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:39 -!- spleen has joined #tnnt 01:40 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 01:41 heh I saw a ref to VT220 old hardware up above 01:41 I recall playing on a VT100 01:42 -!- coffeebug has joined #tnnt 01:43 hey - just registered on hardfought and can ssh to the other servers (so my account's synced) but I can't log in to tnnt.org to make a clan - does that take longer to sync? 01:43 coffeebug: I think it can take up to 10 minutes or so 01:47 -!- efot99 has joined #tnnt 01:47 -!- efot99 has quit [Client Quit] 01:49 <[> what happens if I accept more than one clan invite? 01:50 -!- shadowcat has joined #tnnt 01:50 <[> (I joined a clan but there's still an "accept invite" button on the other invite) 01:50 all of the tnnt admins come to your house and take turns hitting you with a stick until you pay the 200 zorkmid indulgence fee and are forgiven 01:51 Even turns count for the first clan, odd turns count for the second one 01:52 <[> apparently the real answer is "Error: You can't join that clan because you're already in one" 01:52 programmers think of everything(tm) 01:54 the de-facto standard for keycodes a) violates the de-jure standards (which nobody implements), and b) is hopelessly and inherently ambiguous ← anyway, this is why Alt-combinations have never worked reliably on any tty-based implementation of NetHack, and some of the Ctrl-combinations are a litle flaky too 01:54 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 01:56 -!- crunchbubba42 has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 01:56 -!- crunchbubba41 has joined #tnnt 02:00 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Quit: generic quit message] 02:01 I just created a clan "Only Orcs" and will invite anybody who wants to join. 02:01 -!- NetSysFire has joined #tnnt 02:02 what if they aren't an orc? 02:02 You can play non orcs if you want to. But I only play orcs. 02:02 my standard answer to "how can I join a clan" is "mention you're looking to join a clan anywhere where sufficiently many NetHack players read, you will be bombarded with invites" 02:04 <[> what's the clan limit? 02:04 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:04 I heard it was a dozen 02:05 This channel is so good 02:05 lol 02:05 -!- NetSysFire has joined #tnnt 02:06 -!- shadowcat has left #tnnt 02:06 my theory for the logic behind it being a dozen is that the winning team this year gets the prize of taking a last supper style picture with k2 in the middle dressed as jesus wearing a wig 02:07 Or they get a life sized egg carton with a little place for each clannie 02:08 @@@@@@@@@@@@@ 02:08 do egg cartons hold 12 eggs, where you live 02:08 here the standard is 6 (if you want 12 eggs you buy two cartons) 02:09 <[> most are 6 but I have seen 12-egg cartons 02:09 aldi down the street only sells by dozen 02:09 In the US, most are 12 with the occasional 18 02:10 <[> I don't think I've ever seen an 18-egg carton 02:10 Yeah, they are a PITA because they don't fit in the special place in the refrigerator 02:11 what do people do if they live on their own, and don't like eggs enough to eat 12 of them before a 12-egg carton expires? 02:11 and egg expires? 02:11 *an 02:12 <[> throw them at stuff probably 02:12 they do last a long time, but not forever 02:12 I think they just eat slightly less-tasty eggs later in the cycle 02:12 Ugh. Rotten egg. 02:12 :D 02:12 :D 02:12 <[> do they sell cockatrice eggs? 02:13 not in the major supermarkets, at least 02:14 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:14 I have bought "cartons" of 60 eggs in the US 02:14 Ask around at the sketchier bodegas though 02:28 I buy 18's, I like having that many 02:30 Do you try to put them on the door or somewhere else? 02:31 No, don't even have a door space, they just go on a regular fridge shelf. 02:31 Yea, I'll by 2x12 and stick the second on a shelf 02:32 I feel like people are individually mostly consistent about what they use their fridge-door shelves for, but there isn't much consistency between one person and another 02:32 I like to eat 3 eggs in an omelet, and it looks neater to take 1 row of a 3x6 than 1.5 rows of a 2x6. 02:32 My SIL has chickens on her sheep farm, so I collect the 12 cartons for her, and whenever we get an 18 it throws the stack off 02:32 offends my ocd 02:33 lol Demo 02:34 We have chickens in our backyard, usually get 1 or 2 eggs a day 02:36 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 02:36 site is shut down for the next 22ish hours? 02:36 $time 02:36 crunchbubba41: 2024-10-31 02:36:58 UTC. 2024 Tournament begins in 0d 21:23:01 02:39 yeah, no gameplay, just clan play 02:43 [tnnt] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnnt/compare/15fa99364eaf...ecb975d1033f 02:43 [tnnt] k21971 ecb975d - Fix: some Wstringop-truncation warnings during compile. 02:43 if someone wants a unique deaths specialist I'm available. will of course get a few ascs in too. not going to admin Teenage NetHack Ninja Turtles this year 02:45 -!- coffeebug has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:47 ok 02:48 crunchbubba41 how many days in a row are you going to wear your tnnt shirt? 02:48 :P 02:49 it's in the name: 41 02:49 luckily, I have more than one of them, so maybe a lot 02:49 I call not it for person who has to do crunchbubba41's laundry after that 02:50 weee 02:50 i'll wear mine tomorrow 02:50 it's a bit tight though, I've had a lot of ben & jerry's ice cream between last tnnt and now 02:50 I have hardfought(s) as well 02:51 \o/ 02:51 Sadly, the neck of mine unraveled a few months ago. Daughters is still going strong though. 02:51 I'll just have to draw the characters on my chest with sharpie 02:52 there's still more shirts available. not many though. a lot of size/color combos are out of stock 02:52 I'll take a look 02:57 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:59 -!- tsowell has joined #tnnt 03:00 Done! \o/ 03:01 Now I can put away the sharpie 03:01 hahah 03:01 Sorry I didn't go full hothraxxa on the special instructions 🙂 03:02 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:02 :) 03:03 <@Loggers_IX> aosdict: would you be interested in joining my humble clan 03:03 <@Loggers_IX> no members yet but imma try to snap up xdminsy and shadowrider at least 03:03 +3 and fireproof? 03:03 we need to start charging extra for that 03:04 It's my wish, you can RNG it however you want 03:04 Bleeko I'll get this shipped out tomorrow 03:04 Yay! 03:04 sorry we didn't make any for 2024 03:05 I suspect +3ing shirts may not be possible in real life, but fireproofing them might be 03:05 it could still happen maybe 03:05 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:05 maybe i'll just ask for forgiveness instead of permission when my wife sees the cc bill 03:05 -!- NetSysFire has joined #tnnt 03:06 Was thinking about doing Dharma Initiative cosplay a couple months ago and the stock jumpsuit they used was fire resistant 03:06 heh 03:06 how do you know for sure though? did you test it? 03:07 looking for the link now 03:07 any red dragons nearby? 03:08 the thing about red dragons is, even if they *are* nearby, they rarely turn up just because you ask them to 03:08 ;) 03:08 intice them with gold shiny objects 03:08 They were Bulwark Flame Resistant Coveralls 03:09 alright, gonna go to bed early (for me) for a change. gnite all 03:09 https://www.bulwark.com/products/bibs-coveralls/coveralls 03:10 good night, K2 03:10 No idea what enchantments the come with 03:10 Nite K2 03:10 I'm turning in too, night all 03:10 night! 03:19 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:34 -!- crunchbubba41 has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 03:38 -!- cathartes has joined #tnnt 03:53 -!- tinklebear has left #tnnt 04:09 -!- spleen has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:09 -!- charlie14690 has joined #tnnt 05:16 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 06:00 -!- charlie14690 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:12 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:12 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 06:39 Clan #TransOnTrains is now existing, I entirely forgot who wanted invites but just ask 06:39 cbus did you want in? 06:42 -!- Arseniy has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 06:55 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 07:00 -!- coffeebug has joined #tnnt 07:03 ais523 6 hours later and it doesn't seem to have synced - I just keep getting "please enter a correct username and password" trying to log in to TNNT. It's the same username+password I registered at hardfought so it's definitely the right one. I vaguely remember with junethack or maybe NAO? that I had to truncate my password to a certain number of 07:03 characters on the website, is that a thing? 07:04 is anyone having a smilar issue? registered on hardfought much earlier today, can ssh in, but can't log in to TNNT "Please enter a correct username and password. Note that both fields may be case-sensitive." 07:09 coffeebug: you probably need to ask someone else (probably K2), I don't administer any of the hardfought servers 07:14 > please enter a password of up to 20 characters 07:14 ahhhhhhh - problem solved (I hope) 07:14 PEBKAC 07:46 -!- coffeebug has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:04 -!- joes has joined #tnnt 08:10 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 08:16 -!- joes has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:45 -!- Peteird has joined #tnnt 08:55 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:01 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:25 -!- Peteird has joined #tnnt 09:28 theweaver, I think I will bail on it, not sure I will play any nethack at all since my stressy brain "just doesnt feel like it" :( 09:28 but big thanks for the offer <3 09:28 fair enough 10:16 -!- aosdict has joined #tnnt 10:16 -!- mode/#tnnt [+o aosdict] by ChanServ 10:21 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 10:33 -!- aosdict has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:35 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 10:46 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:12 good [time-of-day] peeps! 11:21 -!- floating_eye has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:21 -!- floating_eye has joined #tnnt 11:30 $time 11:30 K2: 2024-10-31 11:30:59 UTC. 2024 Tournament begins in 0d 12:29:00 11:31 Almost one clock face left! 11:31 errmahgerd 12:10 -!- joes has joined #tnnt 12:16 <@DekaFumoPuzzle> Any clans recruiting? Snuck my way into one last year and it was quite motivating. Looking forward to playing again this year. 12:17 <@Loggers_IX> fasho, I’ll send you an invite to mine 12:17 <@DekaFumoPuzzle> Hell yeah 12:17 <@DekaFumoPuzzle> 🤝 12:18 <@Loggers_IX> we will win 🗣️‼️‼️‼️ 12:18 <@Loggers_IX> though it seems like a few of the people I had wanted aren’t playing this year, lol 12:20 <@Loggers_IX> AGGHHH they got arseniy for overachievers wtf 12:20 <@Loggers_IX> gonna have to play the November of my life 😭 12:21 <@DekaFumoPuzzle> I’m not starting 10 days late this year so hopefully I can put some work in too 12:22 <@Loggers_IX> fuck yeah glad to hear it 12:22 <@Loggers_IX> maybe if I get shadowrider we can clutch 12:24 <@Loggers_IX> over achievers is looking spooky. arseniy+furey is a nasty ascension+achievement combo. they have other good players too 12:24 <@Loggers_IX> competitive tnnt? no, I don’t want that!!! I want to be on the unilaterally winning team for ten more years at least!!! 12:27 <@DekaFumoPuzzle> Lmfao. Nethack dynasty 12:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:34 -!- tinklebear has joined #tnnt 12:42 * hothraxxa sends loggers an invite so he can be on a better clan 12:42 <@Loggers_VIII> I have my honor 12:42 <@Loggers_VIII> 3rd place here we come 12:48 -!- bebing has joined #tnnt 12:52 -!- jmcunx has joined #tnnt 13:03 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 13:17 it's a cool name. sounds better than third place, Loggers 13:18 * tinklebear has no idea what it means, but hoo boy it sounds cool 13:22 yeah Over Achievers are gonna roll 13:23 "s'okay. 13:23 -!- Peteird has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:24 looks like I lost another player to them. still OK 13:27 -!- spleen has joined #tnnt 13:28 thanks for the invite, Loggers, but I also am honor bound 13:31 <@grouchy3252> some big talkers in here... better be a lot of ascensions to back it up... 13:32 you guys know how to ascend? 13:32 $time 13:32 spleen: 2024-10-31 13:32:48 UTC. 2024 Tournament begins in 0d 10:27:12 13:33 I think you hit things until the game give you candy 13:33 <@recuerdo> that HAS been my experience 13:34 Ascending is easy. Just don't die 13:34 I always forget that part 13:42 (nods) 13:46 it's not easy, having a good time 13:53 -!- Peteird has joined #tnnt 13:56 -!- floating_eye has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57 -!- floating_eye has joined #tnnt 13:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:02 -!- spleen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02 -!- spleen has joined #tnnt 14:05 ignore armor, acquire ascension 14:07 <@recuerdo> I keep being like "hmmm maybe I COULD try for all the achieves" and then I remember, uhhhh, nudist, zen, permahallu lol 14:08 tinklebear: even smiling makes my face ache! 14:10 <@nabru> $ping 14:10 @nabru: Pong! 14:11 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 14:14 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:16 Did someone say ... candy? 14:18 good morning/afternoon, Weaver 14:18 did someone say... nudist? 14:18 From midnight UTC until midnight pacific time, all death drops are candy. 14:18 Furey's eating chocolate in Sokoban / Got more achievements than your whole clan! 14:20 Also, shout out and respect to the Dinos, my clan of origin. 14:21 Hooah! 14:22 when Furey can get more achievements than the clan Furey is in, I'll be impressed. 14:22 lol 14:22 He'll make it happen! 14:25 -!- spleen has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:31 -!- GrOuchy has joined #tnnt 14:32 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:40 <@habib0338> I've been exercising my Excalibur arm since June. Let's do this. 14:46 * Bleeko does push-ups on home row of keyboard 14:48 Furey practices permahallu in October beta 14:48 I get to play two TNNT's per year! 14:49 that's the drugs 14:49 that's more TNNT per TNNT! 14:50 i understand violet fungi are better than yellow moulds. can you confirm? 14:50 * karafruit uses a yellow mould to make candles 14:50 of course the potion is supreme 14:51 oh interesting, I thought mold vs mould was fungus vs container for molten liquid, but it's just american vs british and either way both words are the same 14:51 * karafruit has learned something 14:52 of course, who ever heard of a yellow mold omelet? yuck. 15:01 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 15:03 -!- Furey has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:06 I hear cockatrice tastes just like chicken tho 15:06 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 15:08 Cue Lore Sjoberg comic 15:08 https://www.reddit.com/r/dndmemes/comments/f3tpuy/cockatrice/?rdt=65173 15:09 easier to just poly into a xorn 15:10 Bleeko your order has shipped 15:10 Yay! UPS Demon approaches "out of the way ..." 15:18 -!- crunchbubba74 has joined #tnnt 15:25 I sometimes wonder if there should be a "straightedge" conduct.  Never drink booze or confusion, never hallucinate from eating/drinking monster/potion.  Harder but not impossible to never hallu from an exploding black light ... 15:25 K2, I found a second TNNT shirt and am wearing it, and there was a hardfought shirt under it, but I'm afraid no one wants me to wear just those 3 shirts between weekly laundry. I will do my best, though 15:26 blood like a pure mountain stream 15:26 Now up to 74! That box of crunch-clones is pretty big! 15:27 sorry about that. computers were a mistake 15:27 I say that every day that I stare at code 15:28 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 15:29 In Junethack they are all one clan, but in TNNT they have to make at least 7 clans 15:30 eitbo saw you rolling up the achievements in beta! you had me beat there 15:31 missed the deadline announcement though, I wanted to collect a few more!  :) 15:34 Furey: you gotta wear my mushroom shirt when playing permahallu 15:35 https://dave.org/sewing/121_mushrooms/121_mushrooms.jpg 15:35 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:37 haha, notice there's lots of custom shirts in the real world, but not much custom pants. 15:37 Yea, thats because of fabric. 15:37 Nethack characters are actually wearing pants, they are just non-descript Levi 501's. 15:37 So the game never talks about them. 15:38 I can walk into any Joanns and come home with an armful of fun stuff for shirts, but not much for good pants 15:38 -!- GrOuchy has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:38 I've made 130+ shirts and one pair of pants 15:40 yet another TNNT idea: when TNNT upgrades to 3.7, where the hero can read a shirt, add some made-by-bleeko shirt descriptions 15:40 lol 15:43 <@recuerdo> I thiiiiink you can read a shirt in TNNT now, which means that if they zoom, they can do it tonight 😉 15:43 <@recuerdo> source: Read every readable item in the game (scroll, book, coin, T-shirt, apron, magic marker, candy bar, credit card, fortune cookie) 15:45 <@recuerdo> I may have spent the last week making a color-coded achievements spreadsheet, they are all tattoo'd on my brain now 15:45 t-shirts are readable, but iirc, hawaiian shirts are not. and bleeko's talent is at least hawaiian shirt level. 15:46 <@recuerdo> ooooh fair enough 15:46 Hawaiian Sasquatch level - https://dave.org/sewing/104_sasqwahine/ 15:48 recuerdo: yeah it's funny: make sheet, tattoo brain, don't need sheet (very much) 15:49 like an open-notes test. 15:49 student: i spent a week putting all of organic chemistry on one two-sided sheet of paper! 15:49 professor: i just got the student to spend a week reviewing every detail of organic chemistry! 15:50 <@paradox> can't believe november is arriving 4 hours early 15:51 I can't seem to write anything useful until I've already got the brain tattoo 15:52 have to turn off permahallu while making the cheat sheet 15:52 im gonna be busy waiting for the great pumpkin instead of waiting for the great tnnt 15:53 lol 15:57 -!- crunchbubba74 has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 15:57 100 registered 16:00 -!- crunchbubba59 has joined #tnnt 16:11 afaict, an invite counts as a "registration" 16:13 yeah that's what i see too 16:43 -!- floating_eye has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:43 -!- floating_eye has joined #tnnt 16:52 $time 16:52 karafruit: 2024-10-31 16:52:38 UTC. 2024 Tournament begins in 0d 07:07:21 16:53 -!- e-snail has joined #tnnt 17:00 eitbo: I like the straightedge conduct idea. or potionless 17:01 crunchbubba59: do you increment on every reconnect? 17:01 it's random, chosen by libera 17:02 Bleeko: great shirt design 17:05 I believe it's the client's choice 17:06 -!- Arseniy has joined #tnnt 17:28 OK, not my choice. 17:29 for the record, good luck Over Achievers (especially) and other clans in general. 17:30 thanks, good wishes to y'all Dinos in the coming month 17:30 <@recuerdo> I'm excited, it seems like there are lots of people planning to pull out all the stops this year 17:37 -!- crunchbubba59 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:50 joes: thanks, my BIL is a huge bigfoot fan, wanted to make something special for him 17:50 -!- eitbo has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:51 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:57 "salami, salami the magical meat" 17:57 "the more you eat, the bigger your feet" 17:57 "the bigger your feet, the better you feel" 17:57 "so let's have salami" 18:00 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 18:01 recuerdo: yeah i make plans all year long and practice during beta 18:02 -!- Arseniy has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:03 * tinklebear practices by doing all the wrong things 18:04 that way, I have fresh memories of what not to do 18:06 $time 18:06 joes: 2024-10-31 18:06:13 UTC. 2024 Tournament begins in 0d 05:53:47 18:06 I will be going to sleep then, have a good start 18:08 -!- eitbo has joined #tnnt 18:18 I played a couple of games in the tnnt beta, and could barely remember how to play. no joke. I dropped unblessed water on an altar, and prayed. it wasn't my altar. (not on purpose) 18:18 having to use a different terminal program was a minor part of it 18:35 -!- erbium.libera.chat changed the topic on #tnnt to: Welcome to 'The November NetHack Tournament' :: public irc logs available at https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/irclog :: https://tnnt.org :: TNNT 2024 beta opens 15th October at midnight UTC :: TNNT 2023 shirts now available to order! https://hardfought.org/shop 18:35 <@arthurdayne18> What's the default numpad option for hardfought? Does it default to hjkl? Or do I need to set it to 0 in my config file to get that movement? 18:35 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v Croesus] by ChanServ 18:36 it defaults to off/0 18:37 <@arthurdayne18> Perfect, my config file should be good to go for when the tourney starts tonight now. 18:37 \o/ 18:38 $who 18:38 K2: [US] No current players | [EU] No current players | [AU] No current players 18:38 finally lol 18:38 enjoy your waning hours of peace :) 18:38 Croesus bot had been registered as an alias under my nick since forever 18:38 finally got around to fixing that 18:38 well not a 'fix' but now it's its own account 18:39 Furey no i'm not. been cleaning most of the day 18:39 i' 18:39 i'm house dad (in batman voice) 18:39 i do that ... house cleaning every year on april 13 18:40 there's always something to clean 18:40 A L W A Y S 18:40 * hothraxxa cleans k2 18:40 and gdamn if baking soda + white vinegar isn't awesome 18:40 made cleaning the sink pipes easy 18:41 septic safe too 18:41 hothraxxa <3 18:41 yes. also a few drops of dishwashing liquid with half vinegar half water is dynamite all-purpose cleaner 18:42 for grout, use baking soda and hydrogen peroxide to make a paste 18:43 we gonna have the cleanest dungeon ever 18:43 so who will be racing for first ascension? :) 18:43 dishwashing liquid wouldnt be a good idea to clean the inside of your toilet 18:43 if you use too much that could get really stupid 18:43 one time, when bored, i walked back and forth over a graffito until it was ALL GONE. 18:43 hahah 18:57 <@arthurdayne18> Hopefully this time the RNG doesnt hate ny healers. Last time I played had a polytrap turn something into an arch lich in the mines after going below minetown(woulda left some fun bones of it happened to leave a bones file) 18:58 welp... the RNG sees all. you're screwed now 19:08 -!- Arseniy has joined #tnnt 19:10 arseniy, oy, you going for first ascension? 19:12 Nah, probably won't start playing until Saturday 19:12 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:13 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 19:13 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 19:14 and anyway I go to bed shortly after kick-off and disperse usually ascends by the time I wake up 19:16 i did a 10-hour barb during beta. nothing by competitive standards but it was new experience for me. 19:17 correction: 10-hour wizard. 19:18 k2: savegames break in 12 hours. 19:18 rng: hello furey the wizard! here is your first wand. It's a WoW. 19:18 furey, nice, I love the feel of going faster 19:30 -!- eitbo has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:36 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:42 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 19:45 -!- Jeff__ has joined #tnnt 19:45 -!- MerryWidow has joined #tnnt 19:45 -!- MerryWidow has quit [Client Quit] 19:45 -!- MerryWidow has joined #tnnt 19:46 -!- MerryWidow has quit [Client Quit] 19:47 hello 19:47 Hi Jeff__ 19:49 -!- oh6 has joined #tnnt 19:50 Hi. Can you remind me, the format of commands, like /help or /who? 19:50 $help 19:50 Furey: https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnntbot/blob/master/botuse.txt 19:50 Our bot is Croesus and they take a dollar sign 19:51 $who 19:51 Furey: [US] No current players | [EU] No current players | [AU] No current players 19:51 i'm croesus (if you're a vault guard and you're asking) 19:51 -!- charlie14690 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:52 $who 19:52 Jeff__: [US] No current players | [EU] No current players | [AU] No current players 19:53 Thanks! 19:53 $score 19:53 Jeff__: Can't find player Jeff__ on the scoreboard. 19:54 Scoreboards are empty until tournament starts 19:55 $score jientho 19:55 Jeff__: Can't find player jientho on the scoreboard. 19:55 Thanks, yeah. 19:57 -!- floating_eye has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:57 -!- floating_eye has joined #tnnt 19:58 $score 19:58 Furey: Can't find player Furey on the scoreboard. 20:00 <@grouchy3252> $help 20:00 @grouchy3252: https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnntbot/blob/master/botuse.txt 20:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:09 <@nabru> $score 20:09 @nabru: Can't find player @nabru on the scoreboard. 20:11 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:12 Jeff__: hey man, you doing different chat handle but jientho in game? 20:13 $score Croesus 20:13 tinklebear: Can't find player Croesus on the scoreboard. 20:14 $score MyAssWithBothHands 20:14 Furey: Can't find player MyAssWithBothHands on the scoreboard. 20:14 lol 20:17 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:24 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:26 $time 20:26 Bleeko: 2024-10-31 20:26:24 UTC. 2024 Tournament begins in 0d 03:33:35 20:27 -!- joes has joined #tnnt 20:30 wewp 20:30 several of the bot commands no longer work. hold overs from the old original tnnt scoreboard 20:30 maybe we'll fix them someday 20:31 the clan score ones? 20:31 yeah 20:34 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 20:35 are we doing tnnt this year or are we skipping it cause it's a leap year so we don't do it til next year? 20:35 you 29 days :-) 20:35 *have 20:36 <[> the leap year will affect the february fiqhack/fourk tournament 20:39 You have to play jumping boots only during a leap year 20:55 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 20:55 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:57 -!- aosdict has joined #tnnt 20:57 -!- mode/#tnnt [+o aosdict] by ChanServ 21:18 but I don't wanna wear boots D: 21:19 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:33 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 21:37 -!- charlie14690 has joined #tnnt 21:38 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 21:41 [tnnt] k21971 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnnt/compare/ecb975d1033f...a43d4e78370f 21:41 [tnnt] k21971 a43d4e7 - Fix: tile issues concerning 'mystery item'. 21:41 @Bleeko, yeah, that was auto somehow. How do I change nick? 21:44 Jeff__: /nick thenewname 21:45 -!- Jeff__ is now known as jientho 21:45 Thanks! 21:52 <@grouchy3252> so .... to build a clan or to join a clan? 21:53 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:57 alrighty. tileset updated for hterm players that like to use tiles 21:57 weirdos 22:04 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 22:05 $time 22:05 nabru: 2024-10-31 22:05:31 UTC. 2024 Tournament begins in 0d 01:54:28 22:06 oh right, DST 22:08 jientho: you are going to ascend this year, even if I have to sit under your hat and remote pilot you like raccacoonie!! 22:08 -!- crunchbubba67 has joined #tnnt 22:08 -!- theWeaver is now known as aoei 22:09 crunchbubba: is there a minimum age for surly dinos 22:10 hmm players named aoei and TheWeaver 22:10 :makes a note 22:10 * aoei blinks 22:10 there is not, if you can be surly enough. we had an 18 yaer old once, username Youngster IIRC 22:10 i dont think that was a blink 22:10 * K2 covers his face with his shirt 22:10 * tinklebear winks ostentatiously 22:11 [repeatedly] 22:11 i was about to ask but actaully it is of no consequence to me why crunchbubba felt the need to ping my nicks 22:11 good night, chat 22:11 good night, aoei 22:12 taking your name in vain to take your powers away so you can't win 22:12 I have been looking at the player names, and remembered 2 different ones that were in the one channel announcement 22:13 people have nultiple names, like DoktorL, and it qould be handy to know the equivalence classes 22:13 that is all 22:14 nighty Stella 22:14 good night gorilla 22:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kl8S61bCn4 22:15 I am also going to sleep, happy hacking 22:16 read Good Night, Gorilla many times 22:16 same, to my kid 22:18 -!- qt has joined #tnnt 22:18 -!- mode/#tnnt [+o qt] by ChanServ 22:23 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:24 night, joes 22:24 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:24 -!- charlie14690 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:31 -!- spleen has joined #tnnt 22:32 $time 22:32 spleen: 2024-10-31 22:32:22 UTC. 2024 Tournament begins in 0d 01:27:38 22:32 $who 22:32 spleen: [US] No current players | [EU] No current players | [AU] No current players 22:32 bleeko: many achievements needed between where I'm at and ascending, but ok... 8-) 22:42 -!- crunchbubba67 has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 22:43 dude, its been 15+ years -- time to make it happen! 22:45 crunchbubba: scandalous that one person intends to play under two different names, don't you think? 22:45 i mean what scoundrel would do such a thing? 22:46 $time 22:46 nabru: 2024-10-31 22:46:14 UTC. 2024 Tournament begins in 0d 01:13:46 22:47 oh crap, just noticed that he pinged out :( 22:48 yea, he's been drifting in and out which is why we've been seeing crunch 1-99 22:49 But I'm sure you'll get to taunt him in an hour 22:52 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 23:11 -!- crunchbubba15 has joined #tnnt 23:12 ha, hothraxxa. that wasn't my worry, but you're right. those people should be shunned 23:13 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 23:16 @time 23:16 $time 23:16 Umbire: 2024-10-31 23:16:09 UTC. 2024 Tournament begins in 0d 00:43:50 23:16 nap felt like forever 23:18 naphack 23:21 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:25 -!- qt has joined #tnnt 23:25 -!- mode/#tnnt [+o qt] by ChanServ 23:32 $time 23:32 nabru: 2024-10-31 23:32:20 UTC. 2024 Tournament begins in 0d 00:27:40 23:32 only 27 minutes until HARDCORE NETHACK ACTINO begins! 23:32 *ACTION 23:32 tick tick tick 23:33 "-tion" as "-tino" is one of my more common typos, and I like the sort of words it comes up with 23:34 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 23:49 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 23:50 -!- scheijan has joined #tnnt 23:51 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 23:54 $time 23:54 nabru: 2024-10-31 23:54:26 UTC. 2024 Tournament begins in 0d 00:05:33 23:54 we're almost there! 23:55 \o/ 23:56 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:56 -!- shadowcat has joined #tnnt 23:56 ahhh! 3 minutes!! 23:58 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 23:58 $time 23:58 nabru: 2024-10-31 23:58:44 UTC. 2024 Tournament begins in 0d 00:01:16 23:59 -!- Noims has joined #tnnt 23:59 $time 23:59 nabru: 2024-10-31 23:59:26 UTC. 2024 Tournament begins in 0d 00:00:33