00:00 DAILY STATS AT 2023-11-22 00:00 UTC: Games: 250, Asc: 10, Scum: 41. 1344457 turns, 35959400 points. 18d 02:19 gametime. (26%Wiz), (56%Hum), (42%Neu), (58%Mal), 8d 23:59 remaining. 00:01 gg stoicjin 00:01 I see my odds of scumming are approximately 4x better than those of ascending 00:01 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Kni Hum Fem Law), 3064 points, 2973 turns, killed by a watch captain 00:05 what are odds of scumming? 00:06 oh you mean your odds of deciding to start scum? 00:06 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:2807 00:06 yeah 8) 00:06 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13845 00:06 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:19251 00:07 -!- Furey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:08 -!- klepto has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:08 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:39175 00:10 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "a blessed greased bag of holding", on T:13922 00:10 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 81 points, 340 turns, killed by a grid bug 00:11 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2049 points, 3466 turns, poisoned by an orcish arrow 00:11 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:40971 00:12 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 176 points, 227 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 00:13 gg stoic 00:13 [US] [D]: karibou (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 495 points, 2464 turns, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:14 Whoah, my first time in Orctown, and I have gauntlets of power, a mithril coat, and a ring of conflict (worn). 00:14 And a pick-axe, but I think that I will let the ring do its magic for a while. 00:14 nice docpi sounds like you're well equipped for it 00:15 RNG has a strange sense of humor.. 00:15 is this the game where you found the turn 1 wand of wishing 00:15 ? 00:16 -!- klepto has joined #tnnt 00:16 No, qt, this is already the second or third game after. I died briefly a niche-case YASD a few turns after my only wish with the wand after trying to attain sleep resistance from a trap corpse of an elf. 00:17 aw, that sucks 00:17 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:17 what happened? 00:17 sounds like you're off to a good start this time anyway 00:17 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #tnnt 00:17 notwithstanding the 30 year curse 00:19 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 420 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32788 00:19 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:20 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:39929 00:23 [US] [D]: stagnate (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 194 points, 944 turns, killed by a small mimic 00:25 [US] [D]: schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 962 points, 1711 turns, killed by a hill orc, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:25 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:38323 00:25 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:33125 00:25 It is not a curse, anselmus, it is destiny 00:25 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided master mind flayer, on T:33127 00:26 [US] [D]: DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8469 points, 5545 turns, killed by an ettin mummy 00:26 Well, looks like Orctown will be neatly cleared soon. 00:27 Also, I am going to have _so_ much fun at the Castle, the Sokoban Zoo, and in Fort Ludios. 00:28 Two hill orcs, and a bugbear left. That should be manageable. 00:29 Piece of cake. 00:29 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) removed efot's uncursed +0 pair of speed boots from the swap chest, on T:42921 00:29 So I just dig in with a pick-axe? 00:29 Yes 00:30 How was it cleared though? 00:30 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:40676 00:30 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) has entered the Arena, on T:33374 00:30 Andrio, Ring of Conflict 00:31 [EU] karafruit (Mon Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:18524 00:31 Ah, nice.~ 00:31 * docpi poses lavishly wearing ring 00:31 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed arnibald the Thief in a deathmatch, on T:33401 00:32 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:15062 00:32 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 77 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:39240 00:32 Now I can pretend I didn't set my speed boots on fire by diving into magma. 00:33 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "+3 blessed fixed Silver Dragon Scale Mail", on T:14328 00:33 "Hellooo? Anybody home?" 00:33 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 00:35 [US] Smithgift (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "+2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:17530 00:35 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 56 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:39472 00:35 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:35 [US] jmcunx (Mon Hum Mal Law) found kitten, on T:2373 00:35 and...another level 1 healer with thousands of gold meets orctown 00:35 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of telepathy", on T:41137 00:36 -!- anselmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:36 [EU] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 poisoned crude arrows on an altar, on T:5603 00:37 * docpi is _so_ nethackgelical! 00:37 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 00:37 -!- anselmus has joined #tnnt 00:38 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:39554 00:39 -!- BestGorilla has joined #tnnt 00:39 Greetings. 00:39 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:39603 00:39 allo allo 00:40 Anyone willing to give some advice as to some creative ways I can use this ring of polycontrol to my advantage. I have read the wiki, looking for any tips. 00:40 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:40 BestGorilla, be feamle, become a dragon, lay eggs. 00:40 BestGorilla, be female, become a dragon, lay eggs. 00:40 Can't be female, sadly. 00:41 laying eggs would be to hatch for pets, I assume? 00:41 BestGorilla, it's okay, this is the 21st century, you can be anywho you want. 00:41 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 00:41 No, I can only pretend to be. 00:41 Whatever suits you, and floats your boat, BestGorilla, and yes, for pets. 00:41 To that end... is there a way in game to change genders? 00:41 I found this guide this week that had a ton of great tips, including many on polycontrol: https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/oqi1ur/a_tourist_speedrunning_strategy_guide/ 00:41 yes 00:42 Thanks, a1. Ill give it a read. 00:42 thank you if you wrote it and you're in here 00:42 Yes, BestGorilla, there is: Amulet of Changing. 00:42 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Amulet_of_change 00:42 Ill keep an eye out for it. 00:42 master mind flayer and vampire lord are generally the best humanoid forms 00:42 elf king is good too 00:42 Thank you rld, crunch. 00:43 careful with master mind flayer, and attacking monsters with passive attacks, like brown molds. 00:43 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2906 points, 2499 turns, killed by a rock piercer 00:43 A brown mold once killed my pet mind flayer on the Oracle level. Three hits, gone. 00:43 if you do master mind flayer, avoid fighting cockatrices and ... I'm forgetting something 00:44 Excellent gag there, crunchbubba. 00:44 riders will instakill if you melee them as mmf 00:44 I think I'll first try out the Dragon, if I get the chance. Seems a bit more forgiving. 00:44 BestGorilla, take off your armor first. It will rip from the change in size. 00:44 Be careful attacking things as dragon too- you have a bite and claw attacks, both of which will make you touch the monster 00:44 roger that. 00:45 black dragon is the best for offense, but gray gets magic resistance and silver gets reflection 00:45 I quite enjoyed my time as an elven king once. Very neat stats. 00:45 I am reading about the chance to poly into my own form... that has some negatives... I assume that a unihorn doesn't fix those negatives. 00:46 No, BestGorilla, unicorn horns are for fixing less extreme conditions. 00:46 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:66538 00:46 I am also imagining to poly into black, lay eggs, hope for a few to hatch, then poly back to myself... is that a thing? 00:46 yep 00:47 you will automatically poly back to yourself after a little bit 00:47 good to hear. 00:47 Oh...... 00:47 Then again, unicorn horns can deal quite drastic changes in the condition of anything at their business end. 00:47 so I don't even need to try to do that. 00:47 also, if your health reaches 0 from physical damage, you will be turned back into @ 00:47 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:40133 00:47 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:40134 00:48 Maybe it's time to dip my unihorn into some potions.... I might find poly. 00:48 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 crossbow bolts on an altar, on T:5172 00:48 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:29249 00:48 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:29250 00:49 poly is the rarest randomly generated potion, and dipping uses up the potion, so there’s a decent chance you’ll never find another 00:49 Oh... Ill not do that then. Thank you for the tip. 00:49 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:40178 00:50 So, my first visitto orctown was, thankfully, uneventful. At least for myself. 00:50 * docpi loves conflict 00:50 conflict is great 00:50 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 666 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:42028 00:50 conflict is quite handy 00:50 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:29383 00:50 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:15627 00:50 in my last ascension I relied heavily on it 00:50 I quite like orctown, though I’m aware it’s not exactly a fan favorite 00:50 If it asks me what I want to poly into, but I was not ready to polymorph, and I choose Human.... Do I suffer that penalty of same-race polymorphing? 00:50 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:40183 00:51 yes bestgorilla 00:51 Yes, BestGorilla, always. 00:51 Thanks! 00:51 I love the conflict too. 00:51 orctown is more fun in evilhack, where there’s a bunch of free tools and potions and the orcs ride wargs 00:52 I emptied a BIG jewelry store, got lucky with blessed scroll of identify, ended up with poly control, slow digest, conflict, shock resistance. Was a good haul for me at this point of the game. 00:52 [US] klepto (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:16097 00:52 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "thoroughly historic very greased partly eaten unlabeled corroded very uncursed magic marker named i stopped eating this because it was too greasy", on T:44740 00:53 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:40614 00:53 I love slow digestion 00:53 that’s my fav ring 00:53 slow digestion is nice too 00:53 Can I convert the alter in ORctown to my alignment? 00:53 docpi: yup 00:53 Which is REALLY good... Because I have been scared to go further due to the poly risk. 00:53 yeah it’s just the ones in hell you can’t 00:53 Think it's time to finish the mines. 00:53 Because it is of Moloch, and I have heard only bad things about that guy. 00:54 *altar 00:54 docpi: Moloch is bad in Gehennom 00:54 in Orctown you can convert the altar 00:54 Ah, I see. 00:54 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:44853 00:54 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:29544 00:54 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:44854 00:54 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:29545 00:54 there’s a chance he sends a demon after you but they’re all relatively wimpy 00:54 Some nemesis you are. 00:55 Doesn't that mean a succubus? 00:55 If I have poly control, and it's time to 'naturally' polymorph back into my normal form.... Do I get the option ? 00:55 it can be that or a couple others. I think horned and barbed devils are part of the selection 00:55 hezrous too, I think? 00:56 Ah, hm 00:56 And If I chose to NOT, I assume that It will also suffer the same race polymorph penalty. 00:56 oh, and erinys. There’s actually a lot lol 00:56 When you get the chance to polymorph, you can choose your own race. You'll turn back and get the same race polymorph effect. 00:57 Polyself also still wears off normally unless you have unchanging. 00:57 Yes, BestGorilla, always. Once you go, you run. 00:57 Ok... thats a little confusing... so I'll verify. The same race penalty is only for my starting race....If I am a dragon, and I poly BACK into human... it is THEN that I get the same race penalty.... 00:58 Yes. 00:58 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:40573 00:58 Poly from Dragon to Dragon would NOT. 00:58 Don't entirely recall what happens if you do that. 00:58 (I realize dragon is not a race) 00:58 BestGorilla, every active polyself runs the same checks for special effects. 00:59 I imagine that would be so... But what is the check for 'same race poly'. 00:59 checking to see if I poly back to my original race? 00:59 Time to polypile everything. 00:59 Because that would explain how I was at level 18 with only 44hp a few games back. 01:00 I had hit about 4 or 5 polymporph traps that game, and they all got me. 01:00 [US] jmcunx (Mon Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3996 01:00 Wait.. maybe I was level 14. 01:00 either way.... 44hp. 01:00 Heck 01:00 Yay, I just converted the altar in Orctown to my alignment! 01:00 w00t! 01:01 Nice 01:02 Anyone able to verify this? Same race polymorph applies only when you go back to your original race? (Which is confusing, because that wouldn't be same-race, but...) 01:02 That is to say, if I polymorph at all, ever, eventually I WILL go back to my original race... and suffer that penalty... 01:03 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Mon Hum Mal Law), 4037 points, 4267 turns, killed by a leocrotta 01:03 It doesn't apply when polymorph simply wears off. 01:03 That is good to hear. 01:04 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:45143 01:04 Hence my comment about "active" polyself. 01:05 I don't know what that means..... active polyself.. .it was a little confusing to me. 01:05 I guess you were describing the actual act of polying myself into...well, myself. 01:06 if you mean reverting, there's no stat reset 01:06 BestGorilla, active means that you caused it, passive means that it caused you 01:07 anselmus, BestGorilla is nervous about system shock. 01:07 roger that. 01:07 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) murdered Paula, his faithful fire ant, on T:16677 01:07 murderer. 01:09 Thanks for the help guys.. .appreciate the tips and information 01:09 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed drum of earthquake", on T:41749 01:09 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:41760 01:09 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:41762 01:10 go spazm! 01:10 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:16811 01:11 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:41923 01:11 [EU] askhl (Rog Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:5763 01:13 -!- BestGorilla has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 01:14 -!- Waffa has joined #tnnt 01:15 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:42115 01:15 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:42117 01:16 -!- jientho has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:16 Amulet get. Good luck 01:18 [US] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:692 01:18 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by turning to slime, on T:10698 01:18 [US] [D]: schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 9661 points, 10698 turns, turned to slime by a green slime 01:18 Go team P 01:19 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 846 points, 1620 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 01:20 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:31330 01:20 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 627 points, 891 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 01:21 $lastgame schoen 01:21 nabru: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/schoen/tnnt/dumplog/1700612921.tnnt.html 01:22 and they had a scroll of fire, could've used it 01:23 prayer is so tempting in that situation :\ 01:24 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:31419 01:26 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:31503 01:28 -!- kewldewd has joined #tnnt 01:28 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:68846 01:29 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:43937 01:29 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:31606 01:30 [US] oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:7293 01:31 [US] [A]: disperse (Sam Hum Fem Cha), 714448 points, 31625 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/disperse/tnnt/dumplog/1700538332.tnnt.html 01:31 Congrats @disperse (he/him)! 01:31 Thanks Andrio! 01:33 ugh, would kicking demonbane off the altar when I got it break artifactless? can't figure out how else I would have lost it 01:33 and congrats disperse! 01:34 Careful about trying to kick things off the altar. 01:34 My memory is you tend to kick the altar and piss off the god. 01:34 Yes it does 01:34 disperse not if there's something on the altar 01:34 dangit. well I guess it was that or leave it on the altar annoying me all game lol 01:34 I think I'm thinking of engraving 01:34 or, until the quest at least 01:35 [US] a1 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) removed Furey's uncursed +0 set of gray dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:11856 01:35 Probably not. Kicking altars is bad. But it doesn't count as such if there are objects on top of it. 01:35 I guess that depends on how the code treats kicking 01:35 Writing swear words on the altar is bad too though. 01:35 thank you Furey 01:36 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "historic partly eaten marker named Only for writing Rodney luvs Vlad Fan Fiction", on T:20848 01:38 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:45053 01:39 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:39 -!- jientho has joined #tnnt 01:39 [US] [D]: a1 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 18079 points, 12527 turns, killed by a mountain centaur 01:40 you're welcome a1, wear in good health 01:40 next time enchant them tho. lol 01:40 Furey looks like you were about 13 seconds too late... 01:40 sorry, no spare enchants 01:41 (for armor that is, i do have surplus ?oEW) 01:42 the scrolls are still there! good deal for someone. 01:42 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:42 Kicking altars hurts alignment and wisdom but i dont think it actually “angers” them 01:43 [US] [D]: bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 5385 points, 6122 turns, killed by a warhorse 01:44 [US] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:37630 01:45 $lastgame schoen 01:45 Nesta: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/schoen/tnnt/dumplog/1700612921.tnnt.html 01:45 [US] [D]: efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 10166 points, 12799 turns, killed by a dingo 01:45 karafruit: maybe you can teleport it 01:46 gwa? master kaen? he's getting sleep'd 01:46 Demonbane. I doubt that breaks artifactless but I haven't tried. 01:46 oh, demonbane, gotcha 01:46 well, far too late now lol 01:47 [EU] karafruit (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed Master Kaen, on T:23305 01:47 picking it up off the altar would break artifactless 01:47 [EU] karafruit (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23308 01:47 I think teleporting it would work 01:47 or getting a monster to pick it up 01:47 -!- jientho has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:47 let me just say, falling through a trapdoor into master kaen's level was super scary 01:48 Heck~ 01:48 ruined all my careful* plans 01:48 *plans may not have been all that careful 01:48 Congrats on defeating him. 01:48 ye he slept through the fight. ;) 01:49 stack of +6 daggers helped too tho 01:49 Some nemesis he is. 01:51 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 125 points, 206 turns, killed by a jackal 01:52 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:45695 01:53 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by Famine), on T:45706 01:53 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 65 points, 347 turns, killed by a goblin 01:53 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:45712 01:54 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "ring of free action", on T:45713 01:54 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #tnnt 01:55 [US] [A]: spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1844438 points, 45751 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/spazm/tnnt/dumplog/1700505500.tnnt.html 01:55 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:42689 01:56 gg spazm! 01:56 Congrats spazm! 01:56 gratz spazm 01:57 [EU] askhl (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7661 01:57 Yay spazm! 01:57 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:58 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:44500 01:58 huh, I'm not sure _what_ octagonal amulets are, but I've now found three on the quest.. 02:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-22 02:00 UTC: Games: 12, Asc: 2, Scum: 0. 1d 01:47 gametime. (50%Hum), 8d 21:59 remaining. 02:00 Congratulations spazm! 02:00 grats spazm 02:01 ah, strangulation. thanks, game. 02:01 gg spazm, glad my BoH was useful! 02:01 Of course it was~ 02:02 I found a 3m long worm that used to be around 30m, but then it got stuck in a dead end corridor. I guess you lose at Snake. 02:03 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 286 points, 1410 turns, killed by a small mimic, while fainted from lack of food 02:05 [US] oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Set, on T:9330 02:08 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 9131 points, 5136 turns, killed by a large dog 02:10 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:2809 02:13 karafruit I got sidetracked but that was my first guess :) 02:14 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of polymorph control", on T:43170 02:14 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:5118 02:15 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:40066 02:15 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40074 02:15 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5195 02:16 -!- blackpenguin has joined #tnnt 02:17 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:43259 02:18 [US] [D]: schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 1700 points, 5482 turns, killed by a hobgoblin 02:19 [US] oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) removed terrapin's uncursed +0 set of gray dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:10030 02:20 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:21700 02:21 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21703 02:21 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 02:23 If I have Kops in minetown that I didn't trigger does it have to be a bones level?  I can't find bones but the general store looked looted 02:24 [US] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:10834 02:25 [US] oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10441 02:28 [US] [D]: efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 19407 points, 5428 turns, killed by a rothe 02:28 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a succubus, on T:44025 02:28 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:28 stagnate: polytrap also possible 02:28 yeah was just going to say I found that 02:28 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:44032 02:32 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 02:32 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:3916 02:33 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:108212 02:34 Still a bit unusual; there were 3 I think?  Not sure the odds of that 02:35 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2774 points, 4809 turns, killed by a gnome king 02:37 [EU] karafruit (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:24946 02:38 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:22603 02:39 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class e, on T:108410 02:39 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class P, on T:108411 02:40 [US] [D]: WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 100 points, 314 turns, killed by a small mimic (and 7 other games not reported) 02:41 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class b, on T:108441 02:42 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:108591 02:42 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:108594 02:43 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:48762 02:44 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 632 points, 1985 turns, killed by a dwarf, while fainted from lack of food 02:46 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 82 points, 286 turns, killed by a boulder 02:48 [US] jackbunny (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:25844 02:48 [US] jackbunny (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:25845 02:49 [US] jackbunny (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided class L, on T:25846 02:49 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:55 [EU] karafruit (Mon Hum Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:25537 02:57 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:109023 02:57 [US] stagnate (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:8402 02:59 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a gnome corpse, on T:3679 03:00 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:71241 03:00 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:71245 03:03 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:45777 03:04 [US] k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:2145 03:06 -!- Bleeko has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:08 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:50395 03:09 [US] [D]: oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 33423 points, 13236 turns, killed by Yeenoghu 03:09 Apparently I got engulfed by an air elemental and wedged into a tight cavern I can't move through normally.. huh 03:10 -!- blankman has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:12 -!- blankman has joined #tnnt 03:12 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:46118 03:12 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 128086 points, 28195 turns, petrified by a cockatrice 03:13 [US] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6718 03:16 [US] Darothok (Pri Hum Mal Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating an egg, on T:3206 03:16 [US] Darothok (Pri Hum Mal Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a gnome lord corpse, on T:3261 03:17 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9115 03:17 [US] [D]: allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1208 points, 4108 turns, killed by a goblin 03:20 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:29215 03:20 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29218 03:20 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2240 points, 4897 turns, killed by a dingo 03:21 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed ring of levitation", on T:17183 03:22 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:51572 03:22 -!- cathartes has joined #tnnt 03:24 -!- BestGorilla has joined #tnnt 03:24 [US] Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:20896 03:24 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed spellbook of cone of cold", on T:17379 03:24 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:17399 03:25 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:23085 03:27 -!- Waffa has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:27 -!- Waffa has joined #tnnt 03:27 I am going to take my sparkly new ring of polycontrol down further into the mines. In the event that I find or accidentally step on a poly trap, I am looking for suggestions on what to poly into, that will NOT break my armor. I do believe I have class Genocided L, this game. 03:28 elvenking, maybe. 03:28 master mind flayer and vampire lord are also popular I think, but you have to make sure you don't melee any cockatrices 03:29 or you can just polymorph into your own race, but that will shuffle your stats a bit 03:29 Ok.. Vampire lord or Elven King. Thanks! 03:30 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) found kitten, on T:46462 03:31 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) removed a1's uncursed ring of conflict from the swap chest, on T:17768 03:34 -!- Waffa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:34 [US] stagnate (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10667 03:35 -!- Waffa has joined #tnnt 03:35 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:47372 03:36 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:18122 03:36 [US] [D]: DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 185 points, 322 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 03:37 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:24299 03:40 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:18376 03:45 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:46 [US] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:9719 03:46 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 03:47 -!- a1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:50 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3799 03:50 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (master lich), on T:3799 03:53 [US] stagnate (Sam Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:11577 03:54 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3118 03:54 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3151 03:56 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:74032 03:57 [US] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:10066 03:58 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:3336 03:58 [US] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:10085 03:59 [US] [D]: mikew999 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 149 points, 926 turns, killed by a jackal 03:59 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:20892 03:59 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20898 04:00 Safe to 'HAVE' a c corpse in inventory if I fall? Only a problem if I was weilding it? 04:00 [US] [D]: allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 868 points, 3163 turns, killed by a dart 04:00 yes, only a problem if you're wielding the c corpse 04:00 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:25365 04:00 but I prefer to bag it so I don't accidentally eat it 04:00 Thanks! 04:01 good idea 04:01 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) removed Bean's uncursed +0 cloak of magic resistance from the swap chest, on T:47058 04:01 -!- karafruit has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 04:01 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3388 04:01 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5495 04:02 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Grouchy's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3451 04:02 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) genocided rust monster, on T:42014 04:03 [US] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed SkippitoFriskito's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:10400 04:03 [US] [D]: schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 2099 points, 6230 turns, killed by a soldier ant 04:03 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) genocided umber hulk, on T:42017 04:04 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "amulet of life saving", on T:42020 04:05 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3620 04:05 [AU] ranchyang96 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:24991 04:06 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3678 04:08 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:21481 04:09 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed allanb's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:1256 04:11 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 04:12 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 04:12 -!- stagnate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:16 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Client Quit] 04:16 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:22038 04:17 -!- kewldewd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:18 -!- a1 has joined #tnnt 04:19 can you put a stack of scrolls in the chest or does it have to be a single item? 04:20 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:13363 04:20 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:47082 04:20 can be a stack 04:20 oh cool 04:21 [US] [D]: a1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 45 points, 623 turns, killed by a fox 04:21 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of opposite alignment", on T:48618 04:21 I got like 8 enchant weapon scrolls from karafruit once 04:21 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed spellbook of magic missle", on T:22267 04:21 I don't think there's a limit 04:22 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed spellbook of magic missile", on T:22270 04:24 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:48821 04:24 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 25100 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:47864 04:24 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:47123 04:25 [US] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha) removed hothraxxa's uncursed amulet of reflection from the swap chest, on T:11479 04:25 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:18339 04:25 wow, my run is already great and i just realized smoky potions are juice 04:25 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) has entered the Arena, on T:53453 04:26 what role are you 04:26 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed fragmites the Chieftainess in a deathmatch, on T:53473 04:26 neutral human valk 04:26 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4246 04:26 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:22482 04:26 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:22483 04:27 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:22977 04:27 [US] [D]: a1 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 505 points, 883 turns, killed by a giant bat 04:28 wish for the pyec and a horn of plenty :) 04:28 Vorpal Blade beheads fragmites the Chieftainess! 04:28 very very very slow infinite wish generator 04:28 lol 04:28 You wish it were infinite. 04:29 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed spellbook of finger of death", on T:22588 04:30 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:53601 04:30 [US] [D]: schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 4766 points, 4916 turns, killed by a dwarf, while frozen by a monster's gaze 04:31 I've spent way too long on level 2 trying to get crowned, I should go get the luckstone 04:32 Why level 2? Is that the only altar you have? 04:32 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:39177 04:32 it's to the point where I got speed stealth, around 3 points of protection and 10 points of bonus HP, and a deathdropped magic lamp into a gdsm all from that level :) 04:32 yes 04:32 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 04:32 Heck~ 04:32 altar farming pretty strong 04:33 do you have summon creature or something> 04:33 [US] Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:24165 04:33 plus, surely someone wants these magic whistles I'm hoarding 04:33 no I just wait around 04:33 I've prayed at max luck like 13 times with no crowning yet :( 04:33 oof 04:33 isnt it like 1/6 odds 04:33 it's pretty low if you don't have max luck+luckstone bonus yeah 04:34 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 04:35 oh, i think it's 1/6 at 13 luck 04:35 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:24429 04:35 oh finally 04:35 fugg I forgot to make holy water 04:35 nice long prayer timeout for that water prayer now lol 04:36 hopefully by the time I get back from the mines it'll be run down a lil 04:36 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:49166 04:37 go terrapin! 04:37 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:48162 04:37 ascension time! go terrapin 04:39 aw, the swap chest doesn't want my land mine 04:40 after I took all that time to lug it down here 04:40 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:48298 04:40 i'd have taken it 04:40 you can put the land mine under the swap chest 04:41 won't produce an exploit though, just a pit with a swap chest at the bottom 04:41 wow, so many goodies today. +7 katana from furey, amulet of reflection from terrapin, scrolls of enchant weapon 04:41 -!- qt has quit [Quit: bye] 04:41 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) removed Shrigis' blessed bag of holding from the swap chest, on T:25296 04:41 gogo loggers 04:41 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:39553 04:42 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:25556 04:42 -!- tjw has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:44 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:49313 04:44 [US] a1 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3141 04:46 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15243 04:46 im way too tired to be doing inventory management right now lol 04:46 i take sometiiing out of my bag and immediately forget what i was doing 04:47 that happens to me too 04:48 "you can't handle your sceptre of might." frickin' banes 04:48 but somehow I've learned to imprint upon my fingers whatever I want to do even if I don't think about it. so I just keep pressing buttons until I figure out what I was doing :P 04:48 [US] [D]: a1 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1620 points, 3480 turns, killed by a snake 04:48 hahahahaha finally! it comes up! 04:49 and we had a whole discussion about it in #evilhack. for shame 04:50 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:48762 04:51 is viewing of curses games on hdf fucked up for anyone else? 04:51 it was for me earlier 04:51 [US] mikew999 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2334 04:52 it's been like that for me for a while and I suspect I'm doing something wrong on my end 04:52 welp, the Sceptre just got stolen, so it's moot 04:52 @Loggers_VIII I write TODOs in my notes file and then I end up forgetting to do them. 04:52 curses is fine for me at the moment 04:52 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:48868 04:52 it's fine when I play, but when I watch your game it's like this: 04:52 other than not displaying the sceptre in inventory 04:52 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1176747088948760587/Screen_Shot_2023-11-21_at_10.51.30_PM.png?ex=656ffe20&is=655d8920&hm=4bdc7e1cf3cda0a8df1c1b44560c2d9da00cd34310c8268ccf29a04285647cf3& 04:53 ouch 04:53 wacky 04:53 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:24324 04:53 loggers_viii i get the same bad screen stuff when i watch a curses game 04:53 luckily I can figure out what's going on anyway cause nethack 04:54 hm, maybe something to ask k2 about at some point 04:54 lol 0 wishes and im on my 4th magic marker 04:54 magic markers are the best wish. they can do anything 04:54 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:13553 04:55 argh already had one 04:55 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20646 04:55 rip 04:55 magic marker and polymorph wand are probably the 2 best wishes class dependent 04:55 already fucking up 04:55 oooh I see, hooa to lessen force 04:55 q-t and k-2 were talking about it a lot. apparently the servers have a libncurses that does char repeat of non-ascii line drawing chars if the termcap entry says it supports that, and then the dgl viewer passes those through to your terminal and mine, which don't handle them right 04:56 yeah once you've got the basics (mr, reflection, speed etc) can't go wrong with a marker or a poly wand 04:56 (and i'm probably about as accurate as an uncursed fortune cookie in describing it) 04:57 it's worth showing that screencap to q-t 04:57 hm interesting 04:58 I'll bother them about it when I can then I suppose 04:58 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:23747 05:00 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:40199 05:01 [US] [D]: a1 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 673 points, 1350 turns, killed by a dwarf 05:01 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 05:02 [US] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13567 05:03 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:13578 05:03 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed potions of paralysis", on T:49958 05:03 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:49962 05:04 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13499 05:04 [US] mikew999 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3103 05:04 -!- tjw has joined #tnnt 05:05 [US] [D]: disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 30806 points, 13653 turns, killed by a mumak 05:06 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:24159 05:06 -!- BestGorilla has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 05:07 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "+3 holy fixed greased cloak of protection", on T:26665 05:08 [US] [D]: ellone (Val Hum Fem Neu), 742 points, 2329 turns, killed by a giant ant 05:08 if you get a "bleh, rotten food" message, should you continue eating? 05:09 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:50003 05:09 i do all the time 05:09 i realize i've always done it too 05:11 fuck this 05:11 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:50021 05:11 fix'n on escap'n? 05:12 i was try to go for don't kill the wizard but it just wasn't happening 05:13 wow, and all the way to Astral... 05:14 ...or at least the elemantal planes 05:15 [US] [D]: a1 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 750 points, 1321 turns, killed by a giant bat 05:16 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed a1's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:17358 05:17 [US] [D]: mikew999 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1428 points, 4027 turns, killed by a killer bee 05:17 Enjoy my jumping boots 05:19 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:49647 05:19 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:40580 05:22 -!- Amorphia is now known as Baphomet 05:23 -!- Baphomet is now known as Baphomet17 05:23 oh my god another marker 05:24 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:50335 05:25 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess, on T:50363 05:26 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:50392 05:26 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:27074 05:28 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:50446 05:28 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:29 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "+2 blessed greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:25292 05:29 [US] [A]: terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 3033832 points, 50466 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/terrapin/tnnt/dumplog/1700432984.tnnt.html 05:29 gg 05:29 grats 05:30 ugh, chaotic high priest got themselves killed after all the trouble i went to with Moloch's high priest 05:30 thanks y'all! 05:31 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:41025 05:31 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:41026 05:32 gg terrapin 05:34 grats terrapin 05:34 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided green slime, on T:13853 05:38 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:25543 05:39 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:13916 05:40 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:13917 05:41 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:41190 05:42 [US] Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:29443 05:43 well my pet balrog just equipped the thing i was gonna put in the twoflower box 05:45 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver saber", on T:25580 05:45 [US] Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) removed Shrigis' blessed bag of holding from the swap chest, on T:29470 05:45 thank you for that much needed bag Shigris 05:47 [US] [D]: a1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 36 points, 175 turns, killed by a kobold zombie 05:48 [US] [D]: ellone (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2991 points, 4703 turns, killed by a dwarf (and 5 other games not reported) 05:48 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:41205 05:49 [US] ellone (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:64 05:53 [US] ellone (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:695 05:55 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 4579 points, 9270 turns, killed by a giant spider 05:56 [US] jackbunny (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 speed boots", on T:28125 05:59 [US] jackbunny (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:28207 06:00 Current Day as of 2023-11-22 06:00 UTC: Games: 81, Asc: 3, Scum: 31. 328081 turns, 5908657 points. 2d 19:34 gametime. (40%Wiz), (68%Hum), (48%Neu), (56%Mal), 8d 17:59 remaining. 06:00 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:14129 06:00 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) removed Shrigis' uncursed stethoscope from the swap chest, on T:25927 06:00 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:14132 06:00 first game where i didn't find paw patrol 06:01 [US] [D]: tizreader (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 179 points, 1047 turns, killed by a hobbit 06:06 can the devteam portal be on the rogue level? 06:06 $time 06:06 anselmus: 2023-11-22 06:06:51 UTC. 2023 Tournament closes in 8d 17:53:08 06:07 getting clobbered in valley with -10 ac and mkot 06:08 [US] [D]: bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 481 points, 1358 turns, killed by a giant bat 06:10 devteam stairs are on the rogue level 06:10 stairs! ty 06:11 i have all 3 scrolls 06:11 1st time 06:12 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:51124 06:12 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:51125 06:13 [US] Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:31601 06:18 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 901 points, 1878 turns, killed by a giant bat 06:19 Yay Nesta 06:19 Best run so far? 06:20 [US] [D]: bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 355 points, 1594 turns, killed by a hobgoblin 06:20 [US] [D]: ellone (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 83 points, 314 turns, killed by a boulder (and 55 other games not reported) 06:25 no my 1st run will be hard to beat. wonder if i can tame a minotaur 06:26 made him peaceful 06:26 he took me down to 7hp in 1 hit 06:28 oops 06:28 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 84413 points, 32508 turns, petrified by Medusa (and one other game not reported) 06:29 nooo 06:29 :c 06:31 My steps: met a werewolf while carrying but not wielding werebane. Got feverish. Said "oh well, take off my armor and my cloak now." Kept looking for the upstairs. Knew it was the upstairs to Medusa. "<" anyway. 06:31 That's how bad I am at this game! 06:32 Nesta, and the blindfold? 06:33 all because my pet balrog didn't follow me down the hole. yes. the blindfold and maybe a towel in my bag. 06:33 -!- a1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:33 seriously decent late-game-ish bag. That was probably not my most epic fail of the tournament tho 06:33 no holy water? 06:34 used it up surviving the minotaur 06:34 I do not undersstand, Nesta. You were wearing a blindfold briefly before. 06:34 i'm stupid enough to literally take it off before stepping up to medusa 06:35 and how did the taming fail 06:35 well the situation kinda made me stupid 06:35 -!- martinp_ has joined #tnnt 06:35 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) has entered the Arena, on T:42990 06:35 asking the right questions! blessed taming 06:36 probably a low roll 06:36 the window just got a little smaller :p 06:36 And all that is because I'm scared of ; with WW boots 06:37 -!- martinp has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:38 I can't think of a sequence of more incorrect moves starting from thinking my balrog was gonna follow me down to the castle, and then not counting on 2 minotaur mazes in between. 06:38 * Nesta yasds yet again 06:39 it moved away just as you jumped in the hole or something? 06:40 -!- martinp_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:40 How would the balrog have made the situation different? 06:40 just didnt follow me 06:40 I wouldn't have come back up 06:40 or even looked for the upstairs 06:40 Well, you have to get rid of medusa eventually. 06:41 -!- martinp has joined #tnnt 06:41 i've done it a thousand times without getting stoned, but this was 110% me being utterly stupid 06:41 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Furey the Chirurgeon in a deathmatch, on T:43043 06:42 And you would have left Medusa unbothered, and then on the ascension run, what? 06:43 no, i'd backtrack a lot, just with a completely different head, i was an idiot and i wanna hide my head in shame :-) 06:44 Nesta, I merely wanted to understand whether you intended to bypass encountering Medusa in the game altogether. Is this possible? 06:44 And desireable? 06:45 no, I would have come back after sussing out the castle, blindfolded and reflection 2ways :-/ 06:45 -!- Arseniy has joined #tnnt 06:45 Ah. 06:45 I wanted perseus' boots 06:45 * docpi ahed 06:46 Nesta, two ways? Like, Amulet, and Shield? 06:46 oh wait... 06:46 Wizards are restricted in long sword 06:46 and my brain didn't think around the combination I set myself up for -- got lycanthropy, panicked, removed armor, forgot armor was my source of reflection, got excited about the upstairs I had to find and fight my way to and just... medusa'd. 06:46 that explains why I can't enhance it even after all this time 06:47 Okay, I understand now, Nesta. Thank you. 06:49 [US] [D]: Nesta (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 288 points, 487 turns, killed by a killer bee 06:50 Could have been worse, Nesta. Could have been a killer a. 06:50 lemme just add that 36 sucks 06:51 Oh wait, it was! 06:51 [US] tizreader (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4231 06:51 anselmus, the achievement? 06:52 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:51182 06:54 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:54 woo magicbane 06:57 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:14507 06:58 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:14514 06:59 wow I am having really good luck finding bags of holding 06:59 neat 07:00 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:51313 07:00 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:51318 07:05 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:14620 07:06 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:07 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:14622 07:12 is Magicbane fooproof? 07:13 yes 07:13 cool 07:13 so no need to erodeproof it 07:13 Sacrifice gifts are always proofed 07:13 all artifacts you get from a god are erodeproof 07:14 yo cathartes 07:14 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:14777 07:14 there is a chance that you get Magicbane from a purple L, in which case it wouldn't be erodeproof 07:14 hi Umbire 07:14 [US] martinp (Tou Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:2168 07:16 oh no 07:16 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1176783322588909568/image.png?ex=65701fdf&is=655daadf&hm=64aa14aa5f937507a712fa262bec8adcb06519c10c851e6b725655979039200a& 07:17 could that have come from the polymorph trap? 07:17 [EU] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:7635 07:17 Yes 07:17 or bones 07:17 YES! 07:17 or chameleon, maybe 07:17 either way you may well be up the creek 07:17 :/ 07:18 Didn't you just get Magicbane? Engrave that Elbereth! 07:18 So, according to my track record, I should YASD soon. 07:18 cathartes, not on the altar. 07:18 he's talking to tiz 07:18 which, that's probably your only real out at this point 07:18 [US] [D]: HopeEnd (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 429 points, 1517 turns, killed by a dwarf zombie, while fainted from lack of food 07:19 Ah, sorry. 07:20 well that depends on what else is in the inventory 07:20 but at least it shouldn't be able to summon nasties 07:21 whether chameleon or polytrap, it should be low level 07:22 wait never mind, it can at lowest level 07:22 [US] [D]: martinp (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 731 points, 2553 turns, killed by a pony, while dressing up 07:22 wow 07:22 slowest-dressing tourist ever 07:22 mixing it up with demiliches 07:22 ponies are fast 07:22 [US] [D]: Nesta (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 232 points, 973 turns, killed by a little dog called Fogel 07:23 body armor also takes a while to wear/doff 07:23 @tizreader: Elbereth and then put on that ring of protection from shape changers is probably your best bet. 07:23 cathartes, only hostile dwarves pick up gold, right? 07:23 feel like that's true but wanna be 100% 07:23 I hit the button to try on the mail, and the next message was You die lol 07:23 Umbire: I don't know of the top of my head. 07:23 baw 07:24 I think that's not the case mulling it over 07:25 [US] [D]: gruefood (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1090 points, 739 turns, killed by a small mimic 07:25 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2141 07:28 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:30 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:54019 07:30 [US] [D]: gruefood (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 37 points, 445 turns, killed by an incubus (and one other game not reported) 07:37 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 83 points, 551 turns, killed by a boulder (and 7 other games not reported) 07:39 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 07:39 thanks 07:40 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:54171 07:40 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 487 points, 552 turns, killed by a gnome 07:42 I will take refuge in Soko for the time being 07:46 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:54369 07:47 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 07:49 Master liches don't bite, do they? 07:49 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1176791535036145684/image.png?ex=65702785&is=655db285&hm=3260705b05c03c1bfd61594cadf4b672f5458d94635538f5fb1df2a4b98fc5a4& 07:49 No 07:50 cold touch and arcane casting 07:50 you cancelled it into a chameleon is my guess 07:51 [US] [D]: tizreader (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 8335 points, 6217 turns, poisoned by a snake 07:51 goddammit 07:51 hm, that would make sense 07:51 forget master liches, this is the real menace 07:52 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Death, on T:54404 07:52 didn't see that twist ending 07:52 [US] [A]: WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law), 2116444 points, 54411 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/W/WizardOfPoland/tnnt/dumplog/1699928583.tnnt.html 07:53 anselmus, but I like it. 07:53 The Lich killing, not the snake death 07:53 gg 07:55 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 07:55 gratulacje 07:56 [US] Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:1713 08:00 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 08:06 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Nesta's ghost, the former Troglodyte, on T:5368 08:08 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed mikew999's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:5406 08:08 $tell wop gg 08:08 No worries, Umbire, I've got this! 08:10 lol klepto are you Polish too? 08:11 * docpi proceeds to polish the whole channel. 08:11 "There, all shiny!" 08:11 * docpi smiles brightly 08:12 There's a nail salon near me called "Polish Me", it gets me every time 08:12 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2412 points, 3408 turns, killed by a hill orc (and one other game not reported) 08:13 martinp, just like the hairdresser called "Curl Up, and Dye", eh? 08:14 lol 08:23 $lastgame ellone 08:23 Nesta: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/ellone/tnnt/dumplog/1700634139.tnnt.html 08:29 -!- anselmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:32 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:62627 08:32 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) bribed Baalzebub with 54 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:34491 08:33 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:34530 08:39 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:54024 08:42 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1064 points, 1874 turns, killed by a rabid rat 08:45 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 08:46 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 08:47 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:35500 08:49 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 532 points, 851 turns, killed by a hill orc (and one other game not reported) 08:50 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: spontiff] 08:54 • 08:55 :v? 08:57 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:40790 08:58 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 15922 points, 12518 turns, killed by an invisible stalker 09:06 [US] WizardOfPoland (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Nesta's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:1917 09:09 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 09:13 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) genocided class R, on T:42140 09:13 weak. i checked for traps. 09:13 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 404 points, 1068 turns, killed by a boiling potion (and 2 other games not reported) 09:15 how many times? 09:15 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:42196 09:15 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:42201 09:19 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:19 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:31350 09:21 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) removed nabru's uncursed potion of gain energy from the swap chest, on T:63134 09:24 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 09:27 -!- Nesta has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:31 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39270 09:31 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:39272 09:32 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 124468 points, 17502 turns, killed by a death ray 09:35 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #tnnt 09:36 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful horse, on T:42658 09:37 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class R, on T:33846 09:39 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) averted death (choked on a mind flayer corpse), on T:34036 09:39 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:34037 09:45 -!- xdminsy has joined #tnnt 09:48 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:34633 09:51 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 27 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:34778 09:52 Gentletournamenters, is it possible to leisurely hop between servers, and take a look into the swap chests on each server? 10:00 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:32536 10:01 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:35489 10:02 your player name can have one game running on each server, but those will be different chars, each one starting from birth. a living char on one server cannot transfer to another server. 10:04 Oh? 10:04 * docpi ohed 10:05 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:32800 10:05 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:32801 10:07 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:40236 10:07 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:40238 10:08 LUCKSTONE ALERT! 10:09 [EU] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10263 10:09 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:35818 10:09 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:40295 10:10 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) genocided class R, on T:40300 10:14 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:40380 10:14 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:40383 10:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:26 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:41556 10:31 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:41697 10:34 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed cockatrice corpse", on T:41751 10:35 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Death, on T:41775 10:36 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "boulder", on T:41779 10:36 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:41802 10:38 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:38 CORNUTHAUM ALERT! 10:38 [EU] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) removed karafruit's uncursed +0 cornuthaum from the swap chest, on T:10787 10:38 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "3 cockatrice eggs", on T:41815 10:38 * docpi happy 10:39 [US] [A]: Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law), 1938528 points, 41815 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Shrigis/tnnt/dumplog/1700492352.tnnt.html 10:40 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 10:40 [US] [D]: WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4668 points, 2069 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant spider (and 19 other games not reported) 10:41 -!- MiaBF has joined #tnnt 10:42 Hi, how can I reverse identify? I identified a lot of potions and I don't know which was smoky. 10:43 I know there is a command to get info for an object but I can't find it 10:43 the '\' command or the '`' command 10:43 You want to look at your discoveries, which you do by pressing \ 10:44 Thanks! Works great! 10:45 That's great human done. Monk was kinds fun, might try a weaponless one in 370 (cuz of the martial arts buff) 10:53 Should be well worth it 10:55 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 550 points, 1998 turns, killed by a little dog, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:56 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 10:58 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 124 points, 353 turns, killed by an electric shock 11:02 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 594 points, 1193 turns, killed by a gnome lord 11:04 congrats shrigis! 11:08 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4351 points, 1849 turns, killed by a dwarf lord 11:26 [EU] [D]: abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1325 points, 1648 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 11:27 -!- MiaBF has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:28 [US] moop (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:13564 11:33 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:33 [AU] ranchyang96 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided gremlin, on T:26738 11:52 -!- kewldewd has joined #tnnt 11:53 So this nymp stole my wand of polymorph, and she zapped herself with it. She turned into a blue jelly, which I just lovingly harvested. 11:53 So there! 11:53 [US] Spider74656 (Rog Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:7692 11:57 -!- fakepass has joined #tnnt 12:00 Current Day as of 2023-11-22 12:00 UTC: Games: 233, Asc: 5, Scum: 153. 524384 turns, 10218742 points. 5d 16:03 gametime. (45%Wiz), (61%Hum), (42%Neu), (50%Mal), 8d 11:59 remaining. 12:02 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of telepathy", on T:42382 12:04 [EU] Arasaka (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (mind flayer), on T:664 12:04 [US] [D]: efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 3925 points, 7506 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf, while praying 12:05 [AU] Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant spider, on T:11769 12:05 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 508 points, 908 turns, killed by a little dog (and one other game not reported) 12:06 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 12:15 -!- Bleeko has joined #tnnt 12:18 [AU] Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha) removed spazm's blessed +3 gray dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:12076 12:20 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful ice troll, on T:52496 12:24 [EU] Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:38845 12:25 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful baby white dragon, on T:52689 12:25 hey i was wondering, does the swap chest clean itself somehow? on average the amount of items in it should increase, since a single player can donate up 6 items but only take out 2 12:25 [EU] Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38847 12:26 [AU] Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12731 12:27 There is some logic to expire older items that no one has chosen. So the bad items do expire 🙂 12:33 [US] [D]: Spider74656 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 2699 points, 8360 turns, killed by a dwarf lord, while frozen by a potion 12:35 Fear the Dwarf with the Potion of Paralysis. 12:36 (Forget about the Gnome w/the Wand of whatever...) Grrrr... 12:38 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:22794 12:39 $who 12:39 Tangles: [US] Furey Shrigis moop Spider74656 peterg kewldewd | [EU] DeVoid docpi abacus66 | [AU] Tangles bleeko 12:42 (Yo.) 12:48 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:52905 12:48 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:52915 12:50 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 12:52 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:53192 12:53 honestly should recommend using dwarvish spears as caveman way more 12:53 d8 vs. all and multishottable is p. good asking 12:54 when i play cave i use spears a lot 12:55 had a local gurrhack run that collected a lot of those 12:56 [US] moop (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:16653 12:56 [US] moop (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:16654 12:56 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 3688 points, 5564 turns, killed by a rabid rat, while fainted from lack of food 12:59 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1452757 points, 53643 turns, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 12:59 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 13:00 $lastgame 13:00 Umbire: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/peterg/tnnt/dumplog/1700606651.tnnt.html | [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xororand/tnnt/dumplog/1700563943.tnnt.html | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/tnnt/dumplog/1700646757.tnnt.html 13:01 D: 13:02 -!- kewldewd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:18 [EU] elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Nesta's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2056 13:23 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:23350 13:23 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 4430 points, 4443 turns, killed by a soldier ant 13:23 -!- Waffa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:23 [US] karibou (Mon Hum Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:1243 13:31 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 413 points, 778 turns, killed by a werejackal 13:31 [EU] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3351 13:31 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1756 points, 3407 turns, killed by a giant ant 13:32 [EU] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 grey dragon scale mail", on T:296 13:32 [EU] AlbertB (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:82572 13:35 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of magical breathing", on T:23584 13:40 [US] k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Shrigis' ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:6434 13:44 [EU] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3852 13:45 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:88134 13:45 oops i was sac festing and forgot i was an orc 13:50 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 3536 points, 4867 turns, killed by a rothe 13:52 [EU] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 20847 points, 17587 turns, killed by a chameleon imitating a salamander 13:52 It was a good run.. I failed while waiting for the shapeshifter to turn into a pet I could tame. 13:53 Furey: don't you have showrace on? 13:53 raisse: no, i tried showrace, didn't like it 13:53 $lastgame docpi 13:53 Furey: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/docpi/tnnt/dumplog/1700552957.tnnt.html | [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/d/docpi/tnnt/dumplog/1700605944.tnnt.html 13:54 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 276 points, 986 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 13:56 Those salamanders sure are heavy 13:56 Those salamanders sure hit heavy 13:57 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 13:58 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:59 [EU] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) destroyed arthur's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:6666 14:00 [US] [D]: Spider74656 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 709 points, 2035 turns, killed by a manes 14:00 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 14:04 -!- stagnate has joined #tnnt 14:04 [US] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "Blessed ring of polymorph control", on T:1294 14:05 That game started well, but died due to failure to read battle-spam. (I was fighting a werejackal+knew it, but failed to notice I'd been bitten & was "feverish", then ate a jackal corpse & was condemned as a cannibal.) Things went downhill from there.... 14:09 [EU] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8573 14:09 Clearly time for a nap, then groceries. Gotta get those % while the shopkeepers are open for business! 14:09 What the hell, another marker 14:09 [EU] [D]: abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1073 points, 2767 turns, killed by a giant spider, while praying 14:10 I’ve found 5 14:10 I was looking for those 2 games ago.... 14:10 Had blank scrolls, but no marker.... 14:10 That’s usually the case… but this time I have the opposite problem lmao 14:11 [EU] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) removed bleeko's uncursed bag of holding from the swap chest, on T:8727 14:12 argh, the bag I'd already named "heavy" was also a BoH 14:12 apparently I hadn't put enough of my stuff in 14:13 Bummer, at least you didn't stash /oC in it! 14:13 no, I always keep all unidentified vanish wands out of all bags 14:13 also all identified wands of cancellation in case I stash a bag in a bag 14:14 well, I'll use yours and sell mine :-) 14:14 There you go! Profit! 14:14 or stash mine somewhere and put it in the valley chest, if I make it that far 14:15 regifting is a long and honored tradition 🙂 14:15 -!- BestGorilla has joined #tnnt 14:21 [US] [D]: WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3705 points, 3406 turns, killed by a gas cloud 14:22 Xp:10... Would you rather.... get naked to squeeze through a boulder in Soko, or .... destroy the offending boulder and take the luck penalty? 14:22 My luck is kinda high at the moment. 14:22 getting naked and squeezing through also incurs the luck penalty so you can choose which is most convenient 14:23 OH? 14:23 ffs 14:23 if you expect to have to squeeze more than once, destroy it by all means 14:23 maaaaaaaaaaan 14:23 I thought squeezing was safe. 14:24 I may need to go back to my altar for awhile. 14:24 the only safe non-standard thing to do with boulders in soko is teleporting them 14:25 didn't know that either. 14:26 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a water nymph, on T:29345 14:26 i squeeze but i shouldn't 14:27 if you're on the far side of the boulder and want to dive in a hole and come back up the staircase on the near side, hole diving is no luck penalty, too 14:27 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:24212 14:27 w00t. 14:27 right 14:27 even digging a hole is no luck penalty, though any jumping is (not only out of a hole) 14:28 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:29374 14:28 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29376 14:28 Ah damn, meant to unequip excalibur before trying to steal the bell 14:31 did you at least eat Lord S' corpse for strength? 14:38 -!- qt has joined #tnnt 14:38 -!- mode/#tnnt [+o qt] by ChanServ 14:39 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:88826 14:39 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:88827 14:40 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:88831 14:41 Loggers, courdleon, Furey: I think that is a problem with the Hardfought terminfo files, which have been updated to report that xterm-foo terminals have 'rep' ("repeat the last character X times") capability. This doesn't play nicely with ttyrec apparently. 14:41 Maaaaaan.... I am getting a LOT of clovers.. my luck was WAAY lower than I thought. 14:43 crunchbubba was having a related problem with that when using Terminal.app and the solution there was to just change TERM, but I have found that all the ttyrecs are screwed up if you use TERM=xterm-something with curses, and you can't really ask everybody to change their TERM when it's working in-game 14:44 I think the terminfo files need to be replaced with versions that don't have rep, or else somehow dgl ttyrec should be updated so it doesn't break when a terminal uses that rep capability 14:45 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 14:46 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:88921 14:48 TERM didn't fix everything 14:49 I like the idea of replacing (or locally modifying) the terminfo files, but I would need to dig in to have an opinion that's any better than random. 14:49 omg check out this fool: 14:49 The priestess of Moloch removes a cloak of magic resistance and puts on a robe. 14:49 and even using iterm2 is not quite right for me.  in one dungeon level ATM the dark and light squares look the same, which could kill me as a monster in the dark jumps me 14:50 that was happening more earlier this month, but cranking minimum contrast down fixed it in normal dungeon level rooms 14:51 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:88969 14:51 wow, that doesn't make any sense to me 14:51 [US] [D]: jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1538 points, 3207 turns, killed by a soldier ant 14:51 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:88975 14:51 and my colors are still a bit wonky, so some creatures blend in with my non-black BG 14:51 me eiother 14:52 well, I would say change your color settings, but in pre-3.7 curses for some reason it overwrites all your color preferences to one the original creator made up 14:52 well, maybe not all -- some of them at least though 14:52 anyway, I must leave the computer for now. life calls 14:53 bye 14:53 when you come back let me know because I'd like to spectate this weird level where there is no light or dark 14:58 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 18992 points, 14607 turns, killed by an energy vortex 14:58 argh I hate energy vortices 14:59 and it was in soko so it didn't even leave bones 14:59 -!- a1 has joined #tnnt 15:00 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) removed rebatela's blessed scroll of charging from the swap chest, on T:89507 15:00 yeah I hate dying in sokoban and feeling like you would have left really good bones 15:02 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Mon Hum Mal Law), 3793 points, 3499 turns, killed by a gnome lord 15:04 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "very historic marker named for putting cutie marks on the centaurs", on T:23794 15:04 -!- a1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:06 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63446 15:06 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:63447 15:08 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:63498 15:08 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:46848 15:10 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:90183 15:12 if soko had bones then the soko zoo level would have more bones than minetown 15:13 [EU] [D]: lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5344 points, 4223 turns, killed by a dog 15:14 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) has entered the Arena, on T:23896 15:18 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) killed elenmirie the Herbalist in a deathmatch, on T:23930 15:18 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 84 points, 430 turns, killed by a kobold 15:18 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 15:21 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:23 [US] [D]: spleen (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 1785 points, 3285 turns, killed by a giant mimic 15:25 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:20771 15:28 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:63823 15:28 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:63827 15:29 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6004 15:31 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) removed klepto's uncursed +0 pair of levitation boots from the swap chest, on T:6110 15:32 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:47543 15:32 [EU] elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:1510 15:34 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:31635 15:34 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 15:34 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6557 15:35 Heh.  Did a rough estimate of the cost for everything in the shop (to foward my credit cloning goals) of 30 items * avg price 200 = 6000 and was exactly correct. 15:36 [US] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:2987 15:37 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) removed DekaFumoPuzzle's blessed +1 silver dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:6632 15:38 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:32137 15:40 [US] Shrigis (Cav Dwa Mal Law) destroyed quervo1's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:2845 15:42 $time 15:42 K2: 2023-11-22 15:42:15 UTC. 2023 Tournament closes in 8d 08:17:44 15:42 :( 15:42 we want november to last FOREVER 15:42 every day is turkey day 15:42 but K2 if it lasts forever the shirts will never be ready 15:42 dammit 15:42 [US] peterg (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:2503 15:43 maybe next year we can make november last forever 15:43 at least I ascended once,100% better than last year 15:43 \o/ 15:43 K2: did you see the discussion about the terminfo stuff above? People are unable to spectate curses games, I think because of that 'rep' thing 15:43 \o/ 15:43 I got an ascension this year, too! 15:43 and if the #&(*@*& energy vortex hadn't got me in soko that might have been my second ascension 15:43 so this year has not been completely lost 15:43 yeah i saw some of it 15:43 I still haven't ascended, I need to try to ascend this game 15:43 -!- HalNovek has joined #tnnt 15:43 and by people you mean 'mac users using default terminal' ? 15:43 no 15:43 there are two realted issues 15:43 related* 15:44 those issues go away on 3.7 dont they 15:45 one is people using Terminal.app with TERM=xterm-256color. in that case the game looks weird while playing 15:45 another is generally, anyone playing with TERM=xterm-256color (or similar) with curses windowport. in most terminals that will look fine. but the spectating and ttyrecs are broken 15:46 the ttyrecs for any of those games that have been played under those conditions in the tournament so far are not really usable 15:46 ^ all versions of nethack or just 3.6.x and earlier? 15:46 which is a bummer 15:46 I think it's just 3.6.x and earlier 15:47 ok 15:47 but that means it probably affects everything with a curses windowport except 3.7, xNetHack, maybe Un(?) 15:47 splicehack is also 3.7 based 15:47 oh ok yeah splicehack too then 15:47 unnethack is this weird combo of 3.4.3/3.6/3.7 15:48 yeah that's why I wasn't sure about it 15:48 I don't really know why 3.7 is an exception anyway 15:48 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2047 points, 3834 turns, killed by a silver dragon 15:48 Un may be an exception because it uses Unicode, for all I know that makes a difference 15:48 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 2236 points, 3687 turns, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 15:48 bhaak would be a good person to ask for help on this, this is one area he understands well 15:49 I'll ask him about it 15:50 Question on Yeenohgu... kinda in a bind ... He got in my way as I was moving through a hallway.. 15:50 hit him with Stormbringer. 15:50 oh and now he's hostile 15:50 My first question is... what do I not understand about why his magic missiles are hitting me. 15:50 [US] stoicjin (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:1789 15:50 are you not magic resistant? 15:51 Reflection doesn't help with Magic Missiles, I gather. 15:51 it should! 15:51 I am wearing silver dragon scale mail, but I am getting hit 15:52 doesn't it say 'The magic missile hits you! But it reflects from your armor!' 15:52 because then it may hit you but it doesn't hurt you 15:52 It says You are hit by a shower of missiles 15:52 no reflection. 15:52 oh right, a shower of missiles, that's not the same as magic missile 15:52 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:24488 15:53 In 2, turns, I think.... I am down to 4 health. 15:53 can you pray? 15:53 That is one option..... I am pretty sure. 15:53 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class m, on T:33538 15:53 are you at the moment directly adjacent to Y? 15:53 Or, the hope that my wand of Cake or Death is ... Death. 15:54 I am. 15:54 OR, engrave with lightning. 15:54 I don't know if this is the version in which demon princes stopped respecting E but it's not a bad thing to try 15:54 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:90581 15:54 its tnnt.. .not sure either. 15:55 can you levelport? (and if/when you do, don't forget to annotate this level first so you 15:55 will know what to avoid/prepare for) 15:55 I can teleport, but I need a turn to do it. 15:55 he attacks me one more time, I am done. 15:55 So... I don't know ... should I pray, should I try this MAYBE death wand... or should I engrave. 15:56 These are my choices at the moment, until I get something out of my bag. 15:56 can you unblind yourself easily? (potion, spell or unihorn)? 15:56 I can. 15:56 I'd say pray first, then when you're at full HP engrave, see if he flees 15:56 can I look in my bag without using a turn? 15:56 annotate the level, levelport out (at this moment it doesn't matter where) 15:56 I don't know! 15:57 that's why you pray first, becasue if he does have a turn it's good to have all your HP 15:57 Once I pray, he will attack again after the prayer is over, I assume. 15:58 Then.... after that... I will need to unblind... THEN I engrave... 15:58 successful prayer doesn't technically take a turn 15:58 OR...THEN I go into the bag. 15:58 afaik 15:58 I do recommend engraving just in case it works 15:58 But I cannot engrave until unblind.... 15:58 you can! 15:58 I am correct? 15:59 Ok.. pray then engrave. 15:59 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) bribed Asmodeus with 18 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33034 15:59 are you blind now? 15:59 That seems to be the best I can do 15:59 or only after you engrave with lightning 15:59 Oh, no! 15:59 I thought I was, because you said that... heheheheeh 15:59 then you can engrave, which will blind you 15:59 you meant AFTER engraveing 15:59 yup 15:59 first pray; then engrave; unblind yourself after engraving and see if he flees 15:59 I gotta see what this shower spell was. 15:59 [US] moop (Arc Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:18688 16:00 Doesn't say anything about shower on the wiki page. 16:00 Weapon, Magic Missile... 16:01 [US] moop (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:18891 16:01 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:37137 16:02 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:37140 16:02 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:33098 16:02 I prayed successfully... He went away... where did he go? 16:02 [EU] elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:4841 16:03 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 16:03 Raisse.. you saved me, I think. 16:03 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 478 points, 1330 turns, killed by a rabid rat 16:04 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 1965 points, 4864 turns, killed by a panther 16:04 he'll find you, so if you can levelport (either with a cursed scroll or a non-cursed scroll while confused) you'll be off the level and safe from him for now 16:05 he probably went to the up staircase 16:05 I *think* he may have gone to the upstairs because that's where demon princes go 16:05 *snap* 16:05 He was the last to attack, and he was standing next to me....... 16:05 [US] telegarn (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11157 16:05 My prayer made him teleport? 16:06 if you ever hit him at all you probably wounded his pride :-) 16:06 I didn't hit him before he left. 16:06 so, that's a thing... the prayer made him teleport... 16:06 but get the hell off this level now 16:06 im thinking the wand of digging is the thing. 16:06 yes! 16:06 -!- Waffa has joined #tnnt 16:07 I guess I gotta dig on this E, I have no idea if that is bad, but.... whaddya gonna do 16:08 it's not bad to dig on E, the only consequence is that it goes away 16:08 Raisse... you saved me. 16:08 you're welcome :-) 16:08 I ruined peaceful Yeenoghu though. 16:08 and he REALLY hurts. 16:09 that's the risk of stormbringer (there's a reason I never wield it even when I'm chaotic and $DEITY thinks I ought to have it) 16:09 can I get Jubilex stuck in Soko? 16:09 yes 16:09 Ok... that ill work on a bit later. 16:09 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:26077 16:09 I just wanted to fix my luck so I could finish soko... ended up with 2 @ 16:09 got jubilex, and Yeen 16:09 [US] k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Shrigis' ghost, the former Wanderer, on T:7515 16:09 if you want to kill him instead, zap a wand of digging in any direction while inside, then give him a tiny tap (because he'll end up at 1HP) 16:10 and don't forget to heal yourself from illness 16:10 [US] stoicjin (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a minotaur, on T:4476 16:10 ^ that's juiblex of course, not yeenoghu 16:10 digging gets him to 1? then one hit.... 16:10 yep 16:10 cool. 16:10 I thought diggin set him to 50% or is that 3.7? 16:10 you must let him engulf you for that to work 16:10 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 232 points, 1368 turns, killed by a fox, while sleeping 16:10 it's 1HP in 3.4 and 3.6 afaik 16:11 yeppers. 16:11 Why do my pets stay closer to me when I have magic whistle :( 16:11 do you also have tripe? 16:12 No.  I mean early game without leash and whistle even with tripe in inventory it was a pain keeping them with me. 16:12 [EU] askhl (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed jmcunx's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:9958 16:13 Now with the whistle they're by my side.  I know it's my imagination but early game pet management is probably my biggest annoyance 16:13 bro i saw hiding in a store from a bunch of giant ants and a rabit rat and then a flipping dwarf comes in and mines trough the wall, letting them all inside 16:13 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:109415 16:14 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:35662 16:14 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:35663 16:14 stagnate: i gets SO impatient with pets pre-magic whistle and then it seems like they are following you when you finally get one., I know the feeling 16:15 It seems to me.. .and I have had success with this... when they don't follow..... 16:15 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42507 16:15 I go back to where they are, pick up what is near them, and then they follow 16:16 I think of it as 'they want me to pick this up' 16:16 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:42514 16:16 bestgorilla: how are you getting these &'s on Dl6?!? 16:16 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker named the 7th one", on T:35684 16:16 at the altar. 16:16 same race sacrifice 16:16 from sacrificing a human corpse 16:17 Wait... where do they run? 16:17 The down, or the up? 16:17 up 16:17 Ok. 16:17 -!- Waffa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:18 he seems to have no interest in being near me anymore 16:18 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:30303 16:19 [US] eitwinston (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9826 16:19 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:42524 16:19 [US] k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8425 16:19 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:109509 16:20 Luck of the grasshopper 16:20 I guess i'm maxed out.. .maybe 16:21 This is just funny stuff... All I wanted to do was fix my luck from my Soko.... what a debacle. 16:22 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:26628 16:22 [US] k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) removed anselmus' uncursed +0 set of silver dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:8637 16:23 -!- theRaisse has joined #tnnt 16:23 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:23 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 16:25 could chase them out of the dungeon for two achievements (and to be rid of them) if you have the health for it 16:25 Smoky fruit juice.  nice. 16:26 w00t 16:26 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 712 points, 1800 turns, killed by a rabid rat 16:27 though that's probably easier done by getting them to the l1 staircase while still peaceful and then attacking 16:29 there's a silver dragon on level 5, I suspect bones 16:29 [US] stoicjin (Val Hum Fem Neu) removed anselmus' uncursed +0 cloak of magic resistance from the swap chest, on T:6062 16:29 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Pestilence (5 times), on T:109611 16:29 [US] stoicjin (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6065 16:29 I have 43 HP and AC 6, I think I'll go to the mines first 16:30 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1480 points, 3691 turns, killed by a giant bat 16:30 er. 16:30 the silver dragon might have been a less ignominious death 16:30 strain the dragon, swallow the bat? 16:31 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Pestilence (10 times), on T:109692 16:31 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:109699 16:32 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 10569 points, 9495 turns, killed by a gremlin 16:32 [US] eitwinston (Ran Elf Mal Cha) removed Furey's uncursed +0 shield of reflection from the swap chest, on T:10122 16:33 30k turns in. Still have not found or identified Enchant Armor. 16:34 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine (5 times), on T:109765 16:34 You can try polymorph scrolls. 16:35 Definitely an option. 16:35 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:22591 16:35 -!- BestGorilla has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:35 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Death (5 times), on T:109803 16:36 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:91378 16:41 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 505 points, 1139 turns, killed by a rabid rat 16:41 [EU] DeVoid (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:32728 16:42 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine (10 times), on T:109955 16:43 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:25478 16:43 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 175 points, 838 turns, killed by a small mimic 16:43 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:23320 16:43 The renegade Angel of Anhur throws an elven dagger! The elven dagger hits Death! Death is killed! 16:43 -- epic friendly fire 16:44 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Death (10 times), on T:109986 16:45 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided disenchanter, on T:23527 16:47 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:25729 16:49 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:91524 16:50 -!- kewldewd has joined #tnnt 16:51 grats furey and arnibald. 16:52 thanks xdminsy, a few turns early for me 16:53 [US] stoicjin (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8462 16:54 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 698 points, 1973 turns, killed by a wand 16:55 [US] [A]: arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 5048974 points, 110166 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/arnibald/tnnt/dumplog/1699897254.tnnt.html 16:55 hh yes i trust you. 16:56 [EU] nurdglaw (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:37354 16:57 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 104 points, 588 turns, killed by a water demon 16:58 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:91650 16:58 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) murdered his faithful blue dragon, on T:91650 17:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-22 17:00 UTC: Games: 11, Asc: 1, Scum: 0. 1d 23:34 gametime. (45%Law), 8d 06:59 remaining. 17:01 [EU] finitelycraig (Pri Hum Mal Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:50821 17:01 [EU] finitelycraig (Pri Hum Mal Law) genocided class h, on T:50825 17:03 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 17:05 -!- kewldewd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:06 surely furey won't splat on astral 17:07 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1233 points, 2363 turns, killed by a rabid rat 17:07 no camera, and playing wishless. i should have polypiled one. 17:08 what do you need a camera for if you've got renegade angels of anhur taking out death for you? 17:08 I'm contemplating trying wishless on my current monk, we shall see 17:09 Lotsa junk on astral, poly there 🙂 17:09 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:24526 17:10 are rings vegetarian? I'd assume so 🤔 17:13 [US] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:3192 17:15 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:91983 17:15 Yooooo Trollsbane! 17:15 I think rings are even vegan (except meat rings of course) 17:15 congratz 17:16 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:16 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 48 points, 220 turns, killed by a boiling potion 17:16 uh oh hides from furey 17:16 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 535 points, 1239 turns, killed by a gnome (and one other game not reported) 17:17 [EU] finitelycraig (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:52263 17:17 are you a troll karafruit? 17:18 [US] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Shrigis' ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:3555 17:18 I've been trolling furey at the very least 17:18 48 cursed scrolls of create monster and ZERO useless wands 17:19 That'll be one heck of an NPC 17:20 oh geez 17:20 well the dagger will do wimpy damage, even at +7 17:20 [EU] finitelycraig (Pri Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:52526 17:20 i'm keeping the bag and sack, at least you can enjoy the dumplog 17:20 no effect in arena 17:20 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 88 points, 661 turns, killed by a small mimic 17:21 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:21 [US] [D]: gruefood (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 66 points, 344 turns, killed by a sewer rat 17:22 [EU] elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:4101 17:23 [US] [A]: Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 3930994 points, 91992 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/F/Furey/tnnt/dumplog/1700426386.tnnt.html 17:23 Nice one Furey, way to work that orc 17:23 gg Furey! 17:23 congrats Furey! 17:23 thanks guys 17:23 orc is not much handicap after the food comes in 17:23 gg furey, I guess. 17:23 -!- nurdglaw has joined #tnnt 17:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:24 gg 17:24 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:25448 17:25 [US] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Neu) removed terrapin's uncursed amulet of reflection from the swap chest, on T:2944 17:26 [US] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:3967 17:26 -!- HalNovek has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:26 [EU] nurdglaw (Val Hum Fem Law) removed WizardOfPoland's uncursed bag of holding from the swap chest, on T:38013 17:27 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:25649 17:28 for realsies tho, gg. and wishless, too! 17:28 wishless and genoless, wondering how many conducts i got 17:28 it's really wonky that wishless+genoless is two conducts versus nudist is one conduct 17:28 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 734 points, 1455 turns, killed by a bear trap 17:30 -!- stagnate has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:30 yeah some conducts are harder than others for sure 17:30 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "historic marker", on T:27768 17:30 karafruit dunno if you saw it, docpi played on eu server just to get to your cornuthaum and they got it 17:30 and wishless gets you artiwishless for free presumably 17:31 no I didn't, that's awesome! 17:31 I saw they were on eu server, didn't know that was why or that they got it tho 17:31 I started getting real bad lag around when I started the quest last night and was terrified it was going to get me killed 17:32 and that was before I fell through a trapdoor to master kaen 17:32 splatted later on trying to tame a shapeshifter; that was actually a gutsy play that would have been real strong if it had worked out 17:32 aww 17:33 you alright today karafruit 17:33 ? 17:33 [US] gruefood (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1101 17:34 [US] malor (Cav Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:40225 17:34 [US] malor (Cav Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:40235 17:35 only five conducts, oh well, that's the way the scoreboard counts up 17:36 [US] malor (Cav Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:40284 17:37 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:26132 17:37 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 675 points, 1080 turns, killed by a wererat, while praying 17:38 Umbire yeah, just at work waiting to be done so I can go home and play nethack lol. excited to continue my monk run. 17:39 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 5407 points, 6061 turns, killed by an orc-captain 17:40 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:26160 17:41 [US] malor (Cav Gno Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:40438 17:42 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 143 points, 564 turns, killed by a hobbit 17:42 [US] malor (Cav Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:40452 17:42 Lol i could have ended this run like 5 hours ago but I’m having too much fun acquiring intrinsics and screwing around 17:45 it's like that sometimes 17:50 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 529 points, 1721 turns, killed by a hobbit 17:51 it's really wonky that wishless+genoless is two conducts versus nudist is one conduct 17:51 not really, it just means that number of conducts != difficulty of conducts 17:51 [EU] [D]: lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 436 points, 267 turns, killed by an arrow 17:52 vegetarian and vegan are also 2 conducts but foodless only one 17:55 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 486 points, 423 turns, killed by a death ray 17:55 that's a first 17:55 literal Gnome With the Wand of Death 17:56 First for you, perhaps 17:56 but yeah 17:56 $lastgame 17:56 Noisytoot: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/l/lacca/tnnt/dumplog/1700675410.tnnt.html | [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Shrigis/tnnt/dumplog/1700675514.tnnt.html | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/tnnt/dumplog/1700646757.tnnt.html 17:57 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) removed DekaFumoPuzzle's magic marker (0:82) from the swap chest, on T:33472 17:57 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Pri Hum Fem Law), 6134 points, 6213 turns, killed by a hill orc, while frozen by a monster's gaze 17:58 Shrigis: welcome to the club! 17:58 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 17:58 wow, floating eyes are so much worse playing human 17:58 you have to be able to react instantly to a monster showing p whenever you're in a corridor 17:58 so can't type ahead at all, that's almost unplayable on a laggy connection 17:59 [US] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3225 17:59 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:59 That's why I always run into corridors, except for when running takes me past the fork I need to take 17:59 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 201 points, 451 turns, poisoned by a little dart 17:59 is there a way to get the curses interface to use bold? 17:59 oh and a poison instadeath 18:00 Current Day as of 2023-11-22 18:00 UTC: Games: 282, Asc: 7, Scum: 153. 929732 turns, 20768484 points. 10d 22:59 gametime. (35%Wiz), (53%Hum), (40%Neu), (55%Fem), 8d 05:59 remaining. 18:00 have come face to face with floating eyes multiple times like that, never bumped :) 18:00 back 2 back 18:00 as it is I can't easily distinguish white from gray 18:00 enough nethack for today 18:00 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 18:01 [US] maneatingcow (Val Hum Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:33512 18:02 ais523: why doesn't vanilla have the nh4 floating eye change? 18:03 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 2332 points, 7127 turns, killed by a dwarf zombie, while fainted from lack of food 18:03 I keep attacking floating eyes on ascii because the blue is so dark I cant tell them apart from gnome lord 18:04 yikes 18:04 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 906 points, 1218 turns, killed by a giant spider 18:05 I had a similar problem with fountain and magic traps, it finally got me to change my terminal settings 18:05 Luckily I’ve mostly been playing roles that can one shot them this month, but I’ll probably out have to find a way to change it eventually. 18:05 Noisytoot: because I am not the only vanilla dev 18:06 ^ 18:06 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:26226 18:06 what's the nh4 floating eye change? 18:06 you can't melee them at all without free action or reflection instead of them paralyzing you 18:07 interesting 18:07 (or being blind) 18:09 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 253 points, 1069 turns, killed by a coyote 18:10 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:10 You sbould be able to make them dizzy by running in circles around them like mario 64 18:11 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 18:11 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:27766 18:14 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Pri Hum Fem Law), 395 points, 1280 turns, killed by a gnome lord 18:15 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1294 points, 4015 turns, killed by a dwarf king 18:16 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8518 18:18 -!- blackpenguin has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:18 -!- blackpenguin has joined #tnnt 18:19 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:28427 18:20 -!- klepto has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:20 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 16482 points, 8958 turns, killed by a boiling potion, while frozen by a potion 18:20 [EU] [D]: nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 552 points, 1000 turns, killed by a gnome 18:20 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 3880 points, 3080 turns, killed by a white unicorn 18:21 [EU] nurdglaw (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:38701 18:22 [US] malor (Cav Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:42828 18:25 [US] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:2730 18:26 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:28755 18:26 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) bribed Baalzebub with 86 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:34742 18:27 [EU] [A]: spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Law), 12652 points, 54255 turns, ascended 18:27 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/spontiff/tnnt/dumplog/1700376947.tnnt.html 18:27 what are the extra 102 points for? :( 18:27 ever use-identified anything? 18:28 bah, the angel was standing next to me, bet it's that 18:28 nope 18:28 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:28786 18:28 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 18:28 anyway, I got my pacifist ascension in with more than a week to go. Yay. 18:29 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:42612 18:29 lol killed by their own death wand 18:29 congratulations spontiff, still super impressive to us mortals 18:29 We're all demigods here :p 18:29 congrats spontiff! 18:30 thanks both 18:30 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1074 points, 2441 turns, killed by a gnome 18:30 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:42614 18:31 weird to see someone ascending with active TermIll status 18:31 Even if not quite min score, well done 18:31 it does make sense though 18:36 [US] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:4772 18:36 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 18:36 [EU] [D]: lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 7684 points, 5907 turns, killed by a werewolf, while praying 18:36 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:29678 18:36 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29679 18:38 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9334 18:40 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:33150 18:41 [US] gruefood (Hea Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3215 18:41 gg spontiff! 18:42 very impressive 18:47 [US] telegarn (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:11365 18:49 [EU] [D]: nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2902 points, 3113 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 18:55 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 18:57 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:59 [US] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4941 19:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-22 19:00 UTC: Games: 12, Asc: 1, Scum: 0. 93463 turns, 50406 points. (67%Fem), 8d 04:59 remaining. 19:00 [US] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:5166 19:02 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Nesta's ghost, the former Plunderer, on T:6236 19:02 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 19:04 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:54459 19:05 [EU] nurdglaw (Val Hum Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:39999 19:06 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:09 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:44006 19:10 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:44007 19:12 [EU] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:41443 19:12 [EU] [D]: tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 12954 points, 9451 turns, killed by an invisible mumak 19:15 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:26342 19:16 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 19:16 [EU] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +1 gauntlets of power", on T:68455 19:16 Wow pacifist! That’s extremely impressive! 19:16 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:6933 19:19 belated congrats spontiff! 19:21 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:44213 19:22 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:29913 19:23 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:25 [US] karibou (Mon Hum Fem Neu) murdered Lucy, her faithful little dog, on T:3520 19:26 [EU] [D]: tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 365 points, 1443 turns, killed by a kitten 19:27 [EU] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed fireproof magic marker", on T:68475 19:29 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:44276 19:36 -!- kewldewd has joined #tnnt 19:38 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:26693 19:39 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 826 points, 1835 turns, killed by a giant bat 19:39 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:40 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 19:41 wtf you can just put on a blindfold to avoid black/yellow light attacks 19:41 how did I never figure that out 19:41 Loggers_VIII: this is my standard use for blindfolds in the early game 19:42 my current valkwitch needed fuckin' 50k turns to find one 19:42 I just always ate the statuses... 19:42 what's a valkwitch? spellcasting valk? 19:42 until I got a unicorn 19:42 *unihorn 19:46 Umbire: did you get the guaranteed blindfold from Vlad? 19:46 no, was before that 19:46 ais523, yes 19:47 I decided to try The Most Suboptimal Valk™ 19:47 in a loose manner of speaking 19:48 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed orb of fate", on T:26435 19:49 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed orb of fate", on T:26436 19:49 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 75 points, 298 turns, killed by a jackal 19:49 [US] [D]: Shunya (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 308 points, 726 turns, killed by a gnome 19:49 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:30724 19:49 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed orb of fate", on T:26437 19:52 this is weird: standing over a trap door, trying to pick something up "you cannot reach the bottom of the abyss." but I can kick it off. But when you try to kick something in a pit "You can't kick something that's in a pit!" 19:52 -!- HalNovek has joined #tnnt 19:52 its right on the edge 19:52 I oughta be able to pick it up, the 19:52 *then 19:53 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:55 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 143 points, 343 turns, killed by an iron ball collision 19:56 [EU] elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:2426 19:57 [US] karibou (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:5523 20:00 moar unique deaths 20:02 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 20:02 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:30995 20:03 that's weird 20:03 huh 20:03 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1176976177555054672/image.png?ex=6570d37b&is=655e5e7b&hm=38113331841d9621a2d5e960c2458f27927cf7f70f487d31e206a09efba2cad7& 20:03 oh, I'm back in 20:05 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of protection", on T:35708 20:05 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:35710 20:06 must have amulet for reflection 20:06 -!- Arseniy has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20:09 [EU] [A]: mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law), 1852210 points, 44323 turns, ascended 20:09 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/tnnt/dumplog/1700347765.tnnt.html 20:09 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:09 geeg 20:10 oh huh, one of the rooms in the mid level of the tourist quest has the same effect as an abandoned temple when you walk in 20:10 cool little detail 20:11 it IS a temple 20:11 just no altar 20:11 well I know it's flagged as a temple and that's why it does that but it's only a temple by technicality :p 20:13 ur a technicality 20:14 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 20:14 ur mom's a technicality 20:15 ur gramma's a technicality 20:15 damn 20:16 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:16 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 20:17 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5159 20:18 -!- Arseniy has joined #tnnt 20:19 $who 20:19 K2: [US] karibou allanb Loggers BEHiker91W Shunya eitlarry kewldewd tinklebear fadein | [EU] HalNovek elenmirie askhl nurdglaw AlbertB | [AU] bleeko Phyban 20:19 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "historic marker", on T:31145 20:20 do TNNT menucolors use regexps or globbing? 20:22 [US] [D]: allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1360 points, 3917 turns, killed by a giant ant, while unconscious from rotten food 20:22 I have "key" on autopickup for the early game and I pick up every single monkey corpse I meet 20:22 that's how I learned it was a substring match 20:23 $lastgame ais523 20:23 ais523: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/ais523/tnnt/dumplog/1700676903.tnnt.html 20:24 Yes it's how regex matching working. 20:25 both regex and glob would accept "monkey" as a match for "key" 20:25 Well, whatever the shell does wouldn't but it's beside the point, this is just like normal grep 20:26 well this is no help: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Menucolors doesn't make clear what is 3.6 and what is in patch sets from before 3.6 20:27 you know what to do :) 20:27 yes you may need some regex like "<(a|skeleton) key". 20:28 or maybe just key$, since a straight up monkey isn't eligible 20:28 yeah, open a browser tab for each nethackwiki page that i want to work on, then i'll be playing nethackwiki rather than nethack, i know where that road goes :) 20:28 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 552 points, 1444 turns, killed by a water demon (and one other game not reported) 20:29 (srsly, during non-tournament months i do plan to spend some time on wiki) 20:29 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 73 points, 155 turns, killed by the wrath of Kos 20:30 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:31278 20:31 quality documentation is hard when you have like a hundred options 20:31 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:31950 20:32 god the tourist quest is so great 20:32 wat didu get? 20:32 bunch of random loot plus a silver saber 20:33 plus I just think it is a fun quest 20:34 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:36470 20:34 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32311 20:35 it's designed to be pretty fun 20:35 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:24184 20:35 tons of soldiers with replacement armor and any weapon you could want, wraiths you can pull through a stair or portal, actual shops up the ass 20:35 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 510 points, 1255 turns, killed by a wand (and one other game not reported) 20:36 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:24189 20:36 -!- stagnate has joined #tnnt 20:37 I have set up my TNNT menucolors to match NitroHack defaults, I hope 20:37 (the way you configure them is totally different) 20:37 definitely top tier quest 20:37 plus the best artifact in the game 20:37 and all you need is a set of poisoned darts 20:38 Loggers_VIII: is it the best artifact in the game even for non-tourists? 20:38 -!- karafruit has joined #tnnt 20:38 I value the Orb of Fate higher 20:38 your starting weapon is both technically among the weakest and the strongest all at once 20:38 obviously it is incredibly good for tourists 20:38 eh I think pyec is still better 20:38 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:39 I value half damage a little less than I used to and the orb is annoyingly heavy 20:39 weight's a factor though idk how much so 20:39 unpopular opinion: no wishing for quest artifacts 20:39 and PYEC does give half spell magic 20:39 furey like, you shouldn't be able to do it? 20:39 Loggers_VIII: half damage pretty much saved my most recent wizard ascension 20:39 loggers: right 20:39 yeah I can see that 20:40 Furey, dnh has that but it also has a fuckton of other artifacts so 20:40 [EU] nurdglaw (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:42001 20:40 ais523 well you were too squishy! 20:40 does dnh have any artifact flails? 20:40 devteam balances a class by giving it a strong QA, then every other class of the same alignment gets the same QA by using a wish, which the hero gets a lot faster and easier than the quest 20:40 ais523, inevitably lmao 20:40 Loggers_VIII: the Orb of Fate lets you win without spending a huge length of time becoming less squishy 20:41 but it was also a great combo with my staff of aesculapius 20:41 also I don't disagree but I feel like wishes being "easy" banks way too much on luck 20:41 because of half damage + gaining hp from successful attacks 20:41 yeah most of the time people don't wish for QAs early anyway because you can just wish for DSM or something anyway 20:41 yeah, 1/3 of the time izchak helps the player win, 2/3 they don't 20:41 ais523 true 20:42 maybe the solution is some decent artifact non-weapons 20:42 I think half physical damage is not as good as half spell damage, though 20:42 most attacks are physical but most of the more dangerous ones are spells 20:42 that aren't quest artifacts either, I mean 20:42 also karafruit is 150% right 20:43 I agree with your sentiment if not your math ;P 20:43 either converting some of the existing artifacts into armor or other items, or adding artifacts like that would do wonders imo 20:44 slash'em has gauntlets of defense (which is first gift for monks iirc) but I don't recall if there are any others 20:44 because currently even though there's a million artifacts you can get via sacrifice, you can only actually make use of one at a time really 20:44 mirrorbright 20:44 for healer 20:44 [EU] elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:7705 20:44 I wanted to remove the ring of levitation and make the boots of levitation an artifact, but people didn't agree with me 20:45 I would probably also have disagreed 20:45 it is hard to make the lategame interesting when levitation trivialises so many problems 20:45 magic markers come to mind as somehing that's powerful enough to be a popular wish, but not as powerful as an artifact 20:45 ais523, I think it could work but make them flying boots instead 20:45 Loggers_VIII: yes 20:45 -!- klepto has joined #tnnt 20:46 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 3529 points, 8016 turns, killed by a pony, while fainted from lack of food 20:46 also yeah magic markers are balanced great 20:46 current run started with a magic marker and a scroll of charging, it was great 20:46 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:7702 20:46 there should be a guaranteed one somewhere in gehennom I think that would be cool 20:46 oh wow, an early game exercise round that didn't exercise dex 20:46 and I don't think I've been spending much time satiated 20:47 one of the candles at vlad is secretly a disguised marker 20:47 one-level optional side branch, the people would love it 20:47 (Loggers' idea is ofc much better, I'm just being silly) 20:47 lol 20:48 mimic candle 20:48 we've got mundane equivalents to flutes and harps and lamps and stuff, where's my Mundane Marker!? 20:48 Grunt has felt markers 20:49 evilhack makes markers ambiguous for some reason even though it only has magic markers. so magic markers display as marker 20:49 until you ID them 20:49 I guess keys are kinda like that too 20:50 [US] SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5989 20:52 yay, random +2 speed boots 20:53 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:25545 20:53 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class N, on T:25546 20:55 keys are an atavism I think I've read somewhere? 20:55 [US] [D]: SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 4650 points, 6379 turns, killed by a lynx 20:55 -!- stagnate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:56 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof ring of conflict", on T:28141 20:57 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 339 points, 596 turns, killed by a gnome 20:57 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Shrigis' ghost, the former Investigator, on T:7906 20:59 there used to be shaped keys, very unpopular 20:59 $time 20:59 nabru [@nabrurocks]: 2023-11-22 20:59:59 UTC. 2023 Tournament closes in 8d 03:00:01 21:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-22 21:00 UTC: Games: 16, Asc: 1, Scum: 4. 0d 22:52 gametime. (58%Cha), 8d 02:59 remaining. 21:00 was that really in vanilla? crazy 21:01 Whistles are also kinda like that. It's either tin (completely useless) or magic (an absolute must-have for any pet owner), but you can always id it with a single use 21:01 [EU] ais523 (Pri Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3219 21:01 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Pri Hum Fem Law), 2614 points, 3219 turns, killed by a jackal 21:01 that is going to be some interesting bones 21:01 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:8007 21:01 I think in the future, I should stash wands of create monster in case they get stolen 21:01 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:34537 21:02 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:29570 21:02 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 830 points, 1532 turns, killed by ais523's ghost 21:02 hah that is a corner case death 21:02 I almost always bag them unless they're in use 21:02 $lastgame Dictyostelium 21:02 ais523: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Dictyostelium/tnnt/dumplog/1700685297.tnnt.html 21:02 Loggers_VIII, ur a corner case death 21:02 Umbire: very early game, I didn't have a bag 21:03 was speaking more generally but yeah, makes sense 21:03 ugh at Dictyostelium's death, that game was a pretty *good* bones 21:03 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:29575 21:03 lmao your ghost's also a killthief 21:04 don't DCSS tournaments have a competition for most people you kill with your ghost? 21:05 but ghosts are more dangerous there 21:05 -!- Nesta has joined #tnnt 21:06 [EU] NetSysFire (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Shunya's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:1032 21:06 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:26281 21:06 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:26288 21:06 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:35059 21:06 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:35060 21:06 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:35060 21:07 yeah nethack ghosts are pretty inoffensive 21:07 if they could use items they'd be very very dangerous 21:08 well, items like armor and weapons. I think they can use wands and stuff 21:08 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1164 points, 1422 turns, killed by a dwarf 21:08 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 54 points, 105 turns, killed by a boulder 21:08 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:26449 21:09 they cannot 21:09 you are likely thinking of wraiths 21:09 I’ve never seen a Nethack ghost use an item 21:09 and/or spectres from Evil 21:09 I think I had one blow a horn at me once but that was in evil 21:10 [AU] Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huhetotl, on T:14438 21:10 Ugh that's on me. I should've named it. 21:11 dug-out square on the turn I entered the levle 21:11 this is bones, right? 21:12 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:26573 21:12 should be ais 21:12 pretty likely 21:12 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:26577 21:13 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Pri Hum Fem Law), 897 points, 1300 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 21:13 yep 21:13 got ORKOed 21:13 $lastgame ais253 21:13 ais523: No last game for ais253. 21:13 $lastgame ais523 21:13 ais523: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/ais523/tnnt/dumplog/1700686918.tnnt.html 21:14 and this is 3.6 so I'll never know what zapped it 21:14 $lastgame NetSysFire 21:14 ais523: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/tnnt/dumplog/1700687313.tnnt.html 21:14 wrong game 21:14 I could have run, but I'd have to do the level eventually, and being cut off from a whole branch is very dangerous 21:14 so it makes more sense to try it first, then if it kills me at least I haven't wasted much time 21:15 [US] Nesta (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1262 21:15 ais523: which game? 21:15 -!- tjw has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:16 NetSysFire: I found your bones, a monster ORKOed me with /oFire 21:16 yikes 21:16 which level? mines? 21:17 [US] gruefood (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:3576 21:17 orko=offscreen ranged ko? 21:17 [US] gruefood (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:3587 21:18 haha gruefood is a great name! 21:18 [US] gruefood (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed the eye of the aethiopica", on T:3587 21:18 NetSysFire: yes 21:18 i faintly remember that one 21:18 wow they got an early wow! 21:18 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 264 points, 1578 turns, killed by a small mimic (and one other game not reported) 21:18 beyond me why they wished for charging scrolls twice, though 21:18 maybe they have negative luck 21:19 Loggers_VIII: could just be forgetfulness, I guess 21:20 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 885 points, 2710 turns, killed by a pony 21:20 no u i guess 21:24 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2667 points, 2874 turns, killed by a large cat called Shadow (and 2 other games not reported) 21:24 [EU] NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:505 21:25 [EU] NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu) destroyed SkydiveMike's ghost, the former Adept, on T:563 21:25 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1677 points, 565 turns, killed by a lynx 21:25 $lastgame NetSysFire 21:25 NetSysFire: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/tnnt/dumplog/1700688112.tnnt.html 21:25 will monsters wield pickaxes for use as a weapon? 21:25 both killed by a lynx heh 21:26 lol one time I found a guy's bones in evilhack who had gotten killed by a basilisk, then found his own bones and gotten killed by the same basilisk again 21:26 lol 21:27 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:27977 21:28 groundhog day 21:29 Loggers_VIII, they will 21:29 $lastasc hackemslashem 21:29 Loggers_VIII: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hackemslashem/tnnt/dumplog/1699826433.tnnt.html 21:33 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:39815 21:34 [EU] askhl (Rog Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Kos, on T:12995 21:34 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 28 points, 105 turns, killed by an arrow 21:34 hey, bugle got played by a soldier and I didn't get the "scare a monster with a bugle" achievement this time, good job with the fix from many days ago :) 21:35 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) has entered the Arena, on T:35939 21:36 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed hackemslashem the Warrior in a deathmatch, on T:35976 21:37 [US] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed platinum yendorian express card", on T:10912 21:38 [US] [D]: jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 13437 points, 9291 turns, killed by a Green-elf, while sleeping 21:38 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 493 points, 2253 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion (and 5 other games not reported) 21:39 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 21:40 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:28363 21:41 WizardOfPoland keeps sending me very useful mail. Is there any way for me to reply? 21:41 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 237 points, 587 turns, killed by a bat (and one other game not reported) 21:42 [US] gruefood (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:4083 21:42 nurdglaw you can engrave a message, or name something in your inventory 21:42 or type your response as an extended command 21:42 ^ 21:42 's what I do 21:42 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:36152 21:43 OK. Thx 21:43 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:28428 21:43 usual way is '# blah blah blah' and player watching you will see that 21:43 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 119 points, 179 turns, killed by a system shock 21:44 tbt when cathartes mailed me about missing the portal on Fire 21:44 last asc 21:44 [AU] Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huhetotl, on T:16086 21:45 my fucking worm was on top of it when I'd zapped secret door detection looking for it 21:45 oh, something I just remembered: the wiki says astral vision shows you details on farlook as if you've handled the item, but ime that is not true at all 21:45 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by Death), on T:28491 21:45 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:28491 21:45 lmao 21:45 @ the mutual kill 21:45 oh yay. Got the sting/orcrist double. 21:45 [US] klepto (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:16834 21:45 [US] klepto (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:16834 21:45 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 126 points, 383 turns, killed by a water demon (and one other game not reported) 21:46 [US] [A]: Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2257928 points, 28523 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bean/tnnt/dumplog/1700542633.tnnt.html 21:47 gg 21:47 yay 21:47 gg bean! 21:47 congrats on literally cheating death 21:47 [US] gruefood (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:4311 21:48 karafruit, I didn't bother to check during my monk asc, can probably pin it for the future 21:49 I noticed it a few games ago with the eyes from a wish, and this game as monk same thing 21:49 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 399 points, 901 turns, killed by a wererat 21:49 [US] SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3515 21:49 could be I misunderstand what it's saying, but if I understand correctly the wiki is wrong 21:51 gg Bean 21:51 hmm...ais523 killed by a bolt of fire 21:51 now gotta figure out if whatever zapped him is friendly to me or not 21:51 ah...very not friendly 21:51 efot: I have no idea what zapped me 21:51 that's double bones, btw 21:51 I assume the /oFire was looted from the previous player's inventory 21:52 but whatever it is, it is near the stairs 21:52 I noticed :) 21:52 statistically I would guess it's a gnome or hobbit 21:52 $whereis efot 21:52 ais523: [US] efot : (Hea Gno Fem Neu) T:3216 The Gnomish Mines level: 3 21:52 gnome would be friendly to me so yeah...hobbit 21:53 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:47564 21:53 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 4 points, 136 turns, killed by a newt (and one other game not reported) 21:53 -!- Baphomet17 is now known as aoei 21:53 ooh, you drew the ghost up to the level above? 21:53 yeah 21:53 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:47566 21:53 my dog is still down there with whatever it is 21:53 also, if you write the L in Elbereth in capitals, you should write the B in capitals too for the same reason 21:54 luckily I have a lot of hp for a level 1 21:54 oh haha I don't do that on purpose 21:54 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:31391 21:54 sticky shift key I guess 21:54 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31393 21:54 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided disenchanter, on T:36832 21:55 good dog 21:55 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:36967 21:55 yeah I can see the hobbit looted lots of stuff from the first bones 21:55 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:36968 21:55 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:36968 21:56 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 robe", on T:36970 21:56 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Pri Hum Fem Law), 175 points, 545 turns, killed by a small mimic 21:57 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:36993 21:57 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 125 points, 114 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 21:57 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:36993 21:58 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 tsurugi", on T:37049 22:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-22 22:00 UTC: Games: 31, Asc: 1, Scum: 10. 58351 turns, 2284218 points. (48%Pri), 8d 01:59 remaining. 22:00 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:37088 22:06 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:41602 22:06 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:41603 22:08 [US] gruefood (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5658 22:08 ....guess who picked up a loadstone in the castle? 22:09 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) has entered the Arena, on T:33269 22:09 Always kick test gray stones 22:09 woo...a non-orc minetown for once 22:09 I DID 22:09 aww 22:09 I was stronk 22:09 $whereis karafruit 22:10 Umbire: [EU] karafruit : (Mon Hum Fem Law) T:26659 The Dungeons of Doom level: 26 22:10 It went two spaces so I figured I was fine... not thinking about the fact that it should have gone more 22:10 Right, monk, that'll do it 22:10 monk with GoP 22:10 Yeah, when in doubt or... being that 22:10 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Mitzutsune the Warrior in a deathmatch, on T:33294 22:10 compare distance with other gray stones 22:10 also I thought I'd already named loadstones 22:10 oh well 22:10 had 1 holy water on me, I'll have to go back to my stash for more now 22:11 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:50697 22:11 hm, a gremlin seems to have found the moat 22:11 now it's 17 gremlins 22:12 Loggers_VIII: why the tsurugi wish? 22:13 and you didn't wish for the HoB rustproof 22:13 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:13 tsurugi I enchanted to +7 and put in the swap chest as an experiment 22:14 and fuck I forgot rustproof 22:14 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 736 points, 7236 turns, killed by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food (and 4 other games not reported) 22:15 [EU] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:45296 22:18 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:19 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:33850 22:19 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, 1678 turns, poisoned by a rotted kitten corpse, while helpless 22:20 Food poisoining from eating my starting pet wasn't a problem prayer could solve? Weak. 22:20 wow, one incubus raised me by 7 levels 22:20 plus I got a point of wis and some pw along the way 22:20 [US] Bean (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "+3 Blessed silver dragon scale mail", on T:2945 22:21 How long did it take him to do that? 22:21 [US] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) removed spazm's blessed greased +4 silver dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:10443 22:22 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:22 idk a couple thousand turns 22:22 it was on the devteam office which is no teleport so it went by pretty quick 22:23 [EU] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:45847 22:23 I didn't realize foocubi could be so effective. I should use them for levels more often 22:23 [EU] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:45850 22:24 "> These is a small glob of green slime here; eat it? [ynq]" boy am I glad I wasn't planning to eat item y... 22:24 [US] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13591 22:26 Nesta: what was the turn count? 22:26 [US] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10763 22:26 does anyone have a spellbook of magic mapping they'd be willing to put in the swap chest 22:26 -!- BestGorilla has joined #tnnt 22:27 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:51527 22:27 Moral question: Exiting a vault, the guard leads me into a store. The wall closes up and presumably kills my pet. Did that happen on my turn? (i.e., did I kill the pet?) 22:27 No. 22:28 Pets caught in a passageway that closes that way get forcibly teleported and their tameness halved - no damage, though. 22:28 [EU] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:46104 22:28 fascinatng thanks 22:28 Hello Hello. 22:28 'lo. 22:29 I was thinking to use the swap chest.... I want to put something worthwhile in it. 22:29 hi 22:29 I was thinking significant rings.... 22:29 can you put in a spellbook of magic mapping :) 22:29 Hello Umbire, Loggers.. 22:29 I don't have magic mapping. :-/ 22:29 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:30 Ring of Conflict, FR, Slow Digestion... Seems acceptable? 22:30 Magic mapping isn't always necessary but is generally convenient 22:30 someone'll love those for sure 22:30 oh donation request 22:30 FR is ok? or too easy to find? 22:30 what is fr 22:30 FR = fire resistance I take it? 22:30 oh I see 22:30 Yes.... 22:31 I feel thtas not a great thing to put in the chest. 22:31 if so then it's fine enough to donate, people eventually work towards the intrinsic but rings are p. great until then 22:31 OK, chance of luck loss when attacking a blind floating eye is 1/500 22:31 $whereis bestgorilla 22:31 Loggers_VIII: [US] bestgorilla : (Rog Hum Mal Cha) T:30958 The Dungeons of Doom level: 6 22:31 I thought it was 1/121 22:31 I don't have any extra ascension. 22:31 probably not worth worrying about either way 22:32 items. 22:32 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:16045 22:32 [US] Bean (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:3847 22:32 holy water is a good donation if you have any to spare 22:32 [US] hearsegirl (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:42093 22:32 I do have that..... 22:32 [EU] HalNovek (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:27875 22:32 [US] Bean (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed NetSysFire's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:3914 22:32 how many seems acceptable? 22:33 a single potion is technically enough but a stack isn't problematic either 22:33 one is fine to be honest, you can put in more if you're feeling particularly generous 22:33 just don't short yourself of water in the process 22:33 I just dont want to put garbage in the chest. 22:33 But I need to find some MR . 22:33 I put some gdsm in the chest, if you look it might be in there 22:33 have to put in your stuff first, of course 22:34 yep. 22:34 I can't use the GDSM, unfortunately, because then I will lack reflection... 22:34 people who need holy water normally only need one – people who want it as a value donation rather than as something as they need will only consider it if it's a large stack 22:34 Oh... slow digestion would be bad, wouldn't it. 22:34 there's a cloak of magic resistance in the chest too 22:34 on the US side 22:35 at least, there was like 15 minutes ago 22:35 Slow digestion is probably not needed if they made it down that far. 22:35 [US] peterg (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) removed spazm's blessed greased +4 silver dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:8136 22:35 [US] Bean (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed NetSysFire's ghost, the former Adept, on T:4380 22:35 bestgorilla, the chests pull from the same pool. so someone at the mines swap chest could get it 22:36 But if they made it to the bottom of the mines, they are probably in good condition. 22:36 as far as food goes. 22:36 Well... at least theres conflict. 22:36 I like slow digestion for the whole game, personally 22:36 Me too, I think. 22:37 Well, I would change to free action if I needed to, but... 22:37 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:34937 22:38 anyway, free action, slow digestion and holy water are a lot better than some of the crap that gets put in the chest 22:38 don't worry about it 22:38 [EU] askhl (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:14907 22:38 No free action... slow digest, FR, Water. 22:39 I guess I could put this magic lamp in. I have 2... 22:39 You can’t put magic lamps in 22:39 Can I put a lamp in? 22:39 magic lamps aren't accepted 22:39 genuinely fire resistance is Fine Enough 22:39 however you can wish for a spellbook of magic mapping and put that in if you have wishes to spare :P 22:39 are they identified? 22:40 chest donations are always ID'd 22:40 silly... they MUST be, otherwise a player wouldn't choose it. 22:40 Im so dumb 22:40 the resistance rings are better in the early game, esp. if it's shock resistance and the like that aren't easy to get reliably 22:40 they are ID’d in the chest menu but not for your game unless you take it out 22:41 [EU] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a balrog), on T:47708 22:41 [EU] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:47710 22:41 ouch! 22:41 oh... i have an extra shock resistance. 22:42 Guess Ill do a little dipping before I go there. 22:42 IMO shock is the best resistance ring cause it's the hardest intrinsic to get and energy vortexes exist 22:44 seconding that 22:44 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:34982 22:44 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 10808 points, 6249 turns, killed by a glass piercer, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:45 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 963 points, 4731 turns, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze (and one other game not reported) 22:48 [EU] ais523 (Pri Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5508 22:48 -!- nurdglaw has joined #tnnt 22:49 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 250 points, 815 turns, killed by a gnome 22:49 I've just had a message about "Program in disorder at makemon (or close appraoch). How worried should I be? 22:49 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8] 22:50 It's happened again - makemon trying to create a monster at <0,11>? 22:50 Program in disorder!  (Saving and reloading may fix this problem.) 22:50 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:51 hm 22:51 ahhhh crap tfw you accidentally didn't leave yourself a forgotten spell and can't confuse yourself easily 22:51 [US] peterg (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9324 22:52 Happened again; monsters moving around OK. Different coords in message this time around 22:52 did your game crash 22:52 Happy to Save and retyr unlessit's helpful to keep it going for a bit 22:52 ah no 22:52 It hasn't thrown me out, so no (?) 22:52 save and reload just in case 22:53 OK. Hang on... 22:54 Yeaah. Save and reload has let me have half-a-dozen moves with no errors. I guess it's Just One Of Those Things (tm) 22:54 nice 22:54 Thanks for the ressurance. Move along, nothing to see here. 22:55 it's probably a bug with 3.6, so it might be fixed already in 3.7 22:56 That would be nice. I had just gone onto the first quest level for the third (?) time. I think I got teleported there and left, then went back and got kicked out, so yes probably 3rd time. 22:58 -!- a1 has joined #tnnt 22:58 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 611 points, 2102 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt (and 3 other games not reported) 22:59 The word pray does not appear on the cockatrice page... Someone please tell me this is an oversight. 22:59 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:35806 22:59 [US] Scuzzery (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6031 23:00 yes 23:00 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 149 points, 245 turns, killed by a water moccasin 23:00 BestGorilla, no time to pray when you are slowing down, into stone. 23:00 rogerdodger. 23:01 i count that as a win for both team c and team : 23:01 prayer can cure stoning but the usual caveats apply 23:01 (for the lizard whose life was spared in that yasd) 23:01 and that article's overdue for remodeling in general, it's a product of complexity addiction at the expense of actually really telling the reader anything 23:02 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:35897 23:02 and I didn't have the savvy required to tackle that in previous years 23:02 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:35900 23:02 @ BestGorilla 23:02 Looking, reading, thinking. 23:03 are there the same number of scroll labels as scrolls? or are there extra labels that might not be used? Curious if I can try to guess what genocide is when I know all but two scrolls. 23:03 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1132 points, 2306 turns, killed by a snake (and 2 other games not reported) 23:03 I am at the point of 'How many turns do I have'. 23:03 (to write, I mean. I don't fancy spinning my dice on the 33%) 23:03 -!- a1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:04 if you know for a fact it's safe to pray then do so 23:04 It's safe to pray. 23:04 if not then use a lizard corpse or acid 23:04 depending on ease of access 23:04 But.... someone mentioned there is no time to pray. 23:04 you have two turns to do stuff I believe 23:04 there is, don't worry 23:04 that's doc trying to be funny as usual 23:04 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:52655 23:04 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:52658 23:05 [US] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) removed Loggers' blessed +5 gray dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:13446 23:05 I asked this yesterday... but no answer. Just LOOKING in the bag takes a turn? 23:05 No. 23:05 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Pri Hum Fem Law), 8918 points, 7777 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 23:05 according to my mentions by Croesus here did i populate the dungeon with a good amount of bones 23:05 Umbire, the operational word here being "trying", of course. 23:05 hey, if you're just gonna say it 23:05 ohi docpi, glad you enjoyed the cornuthaum :) 23:06 Umbire... to verify.. .this 'no' is the answer to the question of looking in the bag? 23:06 I can look without taking a turn? 23:06 looking into a container is generally a free action to my knowledge 23:06 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:36262 23:06 [US] spazm (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:36264 23:06 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 230 points, 317 turns, killed by a bat 23:07 sweeeeeeeeeeeet 23:07 you really should be carrying lizard corpses in the open when you can, minus bagging excess spares 23:07 I am HOPING i have one in there. hoping I didn't accidentally put it in my stash 23:08 You said it was safe to pray, yeah? 23:08 I believe it is ... but I am not going to rely on it. 23:08 [US] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13963 23:08 I mean, rely on my memory 23:09 Yes, karafruit, it was a lot of fun. I could have gotten a blessed +1 SDSM, or a helm of brilliance. 23:09 Fair 23:09 But it had to be the cornuthaum. So much fun! 23:10 Too bad that chameleon acting as a salamander killed me near the upstairs to Sokoban later. 23:10 IT had just turned into a dog, and I approached it in order to tame it. 23:10 aww woof 23:10 I was burdened (yes, I know), and too slow. 23:11 You know you don't have to get close to tame a monster, yeah? 23:11 a domestic monster* 23:11 have to be in line with it at least, presumably 23:11 just throwing food would've been enough, unless you were specifically trying to line up 23:11 Umbire, it was in a crooked corridor. I had to move to align myself for a throw. 23:11 and that's when it got you I take it 23:12 Yes, Umbire, it turned into a salamander on the third turn, and was very fast, and aggressive, and I was too slow, and weak. 23:12 [US] malor (Cav Gno Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:43119 23:12 Here, Umbire: https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/d/docpi/tnnt/dumplog/1700605944.tnnt.html 23:13 [US] efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu) removed spazm's blessed +4 silver dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:10621 23:13 I could have just stood a little longer on Elbereth, and regenerated. 23:13 Or killed the cameleon when it appeared as a lichen. 23:13 Easy. 23:13 hindsight's 20/20 23:14 Nah, Loggers_VIII, I knew of the risk, and took it head on. 23:14 I can respect that 23:14 Would have been quite a pet to have. 23:14 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:14 not really, it's just as likely to be a lichen/coyote as it is anything strong 23:15 At least of that risk. 23:15 there's a certain novelty to it ig 23:16 [US] malor (Cav Gno Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:43221 23:16 Umbire, this particular chameleon shifted between Ettin, Salamander, and Minotaur. Itwas a nightmare. 23:16 [US] malor (Cav Gno Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:43224 23:17 Only briefly it was a dog, and a lichen. The rest were horrible monsters. 23:17 [EU] karafruit (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:29051 23:17 I shifted into salamander three times. So I was warned in a way that this one meant business. 23:17 [US] efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11200 23:17 *It shifted 23:18 [EU] [D]: fragmites (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 645 points, 1939 turns, killed by a giant ant 23:18 [US] [D]: SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 2498 points, 8104 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 23:18 A real danger noodle 23:18 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:18 [US] [A]: malor (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 2177086 points, 43250 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/tnnt/dumplog/1700066257.tnnt.html 23:19 grats malor 23:19 thanks 23:19 grats! 23:19 I was honestly worried on astral. But maybe I shouldn't have as it worked out pretty well. 23:19 gg 23:20 Quite, klepto, and just like man tried to harness the atom, with now known results, I tried to harness that chameleon, with now known, similar results. 23:20 I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet and try to write magic mapping book instead of waiting for someone to put one in the swap chest :P 23:20 you looked quite prepared AC wise, not a lot of tele wands I'm seeing though 23:20 no teammates to poke about it? 23:20 That's my first 3-streak on vanilla. So that's cool! 23:20 hm not really umbire 23:21 No way! Double congrats 23:21 I don't think any of them have a long game going/are awake 23:21 but there is some other cool stuff in the chest so 23:21 I've got an identify book going in the chest soon (once I can get to it in votd) but not mapping, sorry 23:22 I could write magic mapping but It will still take a while until I reach valley 23:22 if you're willing to do it I'm willing to wait indefinitely :) 23:22 [EU] [D]: fragmites (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 234 points, 901 turns, killed by a hobbit 23:23 3.6 gehennom gives me indigestion 23:23 docpi this salamander is going critical! Quick, bring the genocide scroll! 23:23 What's funny is that I hate the point of the game from the Wizard of Yendor on. So I generally park games that are about to hit that phase. But then after I actually ascend I'm always wanting to start a new game because my favorite part of the game is early game 🙂 23:23 [US] habib (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:25669 23:23 -!- HalNovek has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:23 [US] [D]: SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 222 points, 998 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 23:24 true, early game is way more fun with the good melee classes. And some spellcasters too I guess 23:24 getting to the castle and then deciding whether to go on is just startscumming with extra steps 23:25 Heh, Nesta. 23:25 hmmm which is a better swap chest dono, ring of free action or silver saber? 23:25 You are going to judge me heavily for this: I even _had_ genocide. In my bag. You know, "just in case". 23:25 even with the "hard roles" the early game is fun because you gain power. The late game is basically, "oh here are some more hard monsters that can kill me if I don't focus and I get nothing for this at all." 23:26 karafruit, silver saber 23:26 [US] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:15896 23:26 i can never judge anyone again after getting stoned with 3+ methods of blindness and 2+sources of reflection 23:26 [US] SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:573 23:26 Magicbane, silver saber, gauntlets of power, the works. 23:27 I quite like the game past the wizard of yendor, but gehennom before that is boring 23:27 I do find it kinda boring but not to the same degree 23:27 I agree, Loggers_VIII, the mazes are too boringly repetitive, and do not add anything interesting. 23:27 you say you like rodney but I bet you don't stay back to keep fighting him :-) 23:27 Not as many as they are. Fewer of them would have been better. 23:28 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:65606 23:28 early game suffers enjoyability-wise more than the other stages for me because I play it so much more often. so it becomes boring more quickly than other aspects 23:28 nesta he can be fun if you have good melee damage I think 23:29 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) has entered the Arena, on T:65629 23:29 staff of aesculapius/stormbringer make him much more bearable 23:29 Yeenoghu has this ridiculous rain of missiles... that hurts like hell. I don't see that on his wiki page. What do I need to help vs that? 23:29 SDSM doesn't seem to help 23:29 bestgorilla magic resistance 23:29 He is blocking my way to the swapchest. 23:29 grrr. 23:29 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10969 23:29 does he have that rain, AND magic missile? 23:30 melee-range magic missiles aren't reflectable 23:30 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Raisse the Sorcerer in a deathmatch, on T:65643 23:30 at-range missiles are 23:30 malor: I have been keeping my best game ever so far on hold right before getting the amulet for that same reason. I just do not know whether I can make it, or whether I could take it splatting soon after resuming that game. 23:30 the magic missile attack is a spell- the way it works it can either be a ray, like a wand of magic missile, or a melee-range touch attack. the touch attack does much more damage and cannot be reflected 23:30 So, I need reflection AND MR to manage him. 23:30 nnnnnnnot really? 23:30 MR is enough 23:30 Loggers which server are you on? I could look around votd to see if there's a spellbook of magic mapping but otherwise I just have three things (well, four actually) ready to go 23:30 I am on US 23:30 malor: For two years now. On iNethack2 on my iPad, which just died three days ago. 23:30 also it's right there in the template 23:31 ah, I'm on EU, so you probably wouldn't get it anyway. Ok, I won't bother looking then (and will probably promptly find one right after, lol) 23:31 MR stops 'normal' magic missile and reduces damage of the melee-range special attack from Yeen et. al. as well 23:32 I believe you, but it confuses me. I thought reflection was for normal magic missile.. 23:32 It negates the damage from Yeenoghu/angel missiles completely 23:32 [EU] [D]: fragmites (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 697 points, 1573 turns, killed by a giant ant 23:32 (MR, that is, reflection only negates it if not in melee) 23:32 MR stops striking, magic missile and death magic 23:32 reflection stops all rays, but not beams 23:32 it is kind of a confusing attack. somehow it keeps coming up in discussion 23:32 [US] gruefood (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9365 23:33 So, I am hearing, (I think)... MR will help me with that when he is next to me, and reflection will help when he is at range, firing them at me. 23:33 MR will help always 23:33 the currently-unused fire version should be given to one of the demon lords 23:33 reflection will help only at range 23:33 Ok. 23:33 MR stops magic missile 23:33 melee-range magic missile is magic missile 23:33 So I need MR before going to the chest anyway. 23:34 I don't know, what's your HP 23:34 he also paralyzes and confuses 23:34 89... He destroyed me .. got me down to 4hp in 2 turns. 23:35 SDSM didn't do anything. 23:35 Guess I am switching to GDSM. 23:36 hm that situation sucks 23:36 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:65712 23:37 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "+3 fixed blessed gray dragon scale mail", on T:32039 23:38 Will you be able to get the game back docpi? 23:39 Can someone clarify for me if a wielded potion of sleeping has the same effect as a zapped wand/spell? 23:39 i.e. subject to monster mr 23:40 it is subject to MR, yes 23:40 ty. I was hoping to put the dark one to sleep 23:41 Cloak of protection, This conveyes MC3 like the wiki states? 23:41 Yes 23:42 klepto: there is a monster MR roll 23:42 [EU] OhNoNotAgain (Val Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:17055 23:42 I guess Ill go try to deal with him, then. 23:42 I do not know, malor. I think that the iPad is stuck in its apple logo boot loop due to low battery healt, and a cracked screen throwing too many error messages and erroneous input events. It is just that I would have to convince either an Apple store, or some phone repair shop to replace the backshell, and glass, for my iPad Air 2, which is expensive, but also no one really wants to put so much work into repairing an 23:42 old device. 23:42 It's not absolute protection against para but after free action it's probably your best option 23:42 the stats are slightly different than for the spell, but it just determines the numbers that get plugged into the monMR resist roll formula 23:42 and keep in mind he can also just swat you to death besides 23:42 if you have spare wishes I'd go for a footrice corpse or stack of eggs 23:42 malor, I took screenshots of the state of the game a while ago, so I can at least look at it, and show it around. 23:43 I was going to laugh at that, but to tell you the truth, I want to see those scrrenshots 🙂 I'm such a nethack fan-boy 🙂 23:43 [EU] OhNoNotAgain (Val Hum Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed bag of holding", on T:17063 23:44 ffs 23:44 good to know they're somewhat synchronized ais523. I assume that's also true for other things like polymorph 23:44 Sure, malor, I need to publish them anyway, in order to back up my story. So as soon as I get to browse through an old external hdd that has them I will put them up here. 23:45 klepto: it goes through the same function, just the arguments say "sleep potion" or "sleep spell" 23:45 Question on Fireball and Cone of Cold at "Expert level" -> how do they work? Explode on impact or "select a location to attack" or something else? 23:45 Ah, the battery for the ipad Air 2 is fused with the backshell, hence the reuirement to replace the whole backshell in order to replace the battery. 23:46 you choose the location at expert 23:46 OR so I have been told. I am confident that iFixit has the details on that straight. 23:46 it's why a lot of people prefer to keep it at lower skill level 23:46 so does that mean that it always fails if you are blind? 23:46 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1291 points, 3208 turns, killed by a dog, while frozen by a monster's gaze 23:46 hmmm... I think so. Maybe someone else can chime in here 23:46 You have to be able to see the location or the monster you're targeting 23:47 that's how "select a location" works in dnh. But I don't remember how vanilla works. 23:47 so telepathy or say, astral vision can make certain spots targetable 23:47 If yeenoghu flees..... goes to the stairs, he heals.. If I am on the stairs, I assume that means he cannot heal there.... Can I engrave ON the stairs? 23:47 I'd assume it's like trying to jump while blind, just fails 23:47 ask me how I know :B 23:47 BestGorilla, yes 23:47 thanks 23:47 and Yeenoghu respects Elbereth 23:47 BestGorilla: yes but the engraving won't work unless you're standing on it 23:47 all demons do, provided you're outside Gehennom 23:47 *looks at the wraith corpses and sighs at her decision to be vegetarian* 23:47 and yes, doesn't work in Gehennom 23:47 ok, thanks klepto. 23:48 kinda crazy that elbereth works on uniques in 3.6 23:48 ais523, this is a Mines bones situation I think 23:48 got it. 23:48 karafruit, foocubi and alchemy are the way 23:48 ah, you're a dnh main? nice, malor 23:49 yes, dnh is definitely my "main". I pretty much only play vanilla in November :). And I always hate how much dnh stuff isn't there 🙂 23:50 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:51413 23:50 I feel you. I played binders pretty much exclusively until tnnt rolled in. God I miss being able to squeeze past diagonally w/ greased cloaks 23:50 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:51414 23:50 what's your best dnh streak malor? 23:50 hrrrrm... he keeps turning to flee, but never leaves the stairs.... 23:50 a pickle. 23:50 [EU] fragmites (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Nesta's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:1480 23:50 14-streak on dnh. 32-streak on ndnh 23:51 Mind your engraving while you wait 23:51 i havent even ascended ndnh 32 times 23:51 Covetous monsters camp the stairs as long as they have damage to heal, and otherwise warp around you 23:51 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:32280 23:51 wtf 23:51 you have 44 ndnh ascensions Demo 🙂 23:51 if they can't reach the stair-- oh ok 23:51 well done 23:51 Points at you, then curses... I guess means.... he is out of mana? 23:51 messy, but it worked out. 23:51 monsters don't have a formal mana system for casting 23:52 monsters have to roll for if their spells work I think 23:52 it's a roll each turn p. sure, depends on monster level and stuff 23:52 and if they don't they curse 23:53 those are some crazy numbers malor. What was your favorite game? 23:53 I bet you could streak evil/hackem 23:54 you must really love dnh to play it that much, lol 23:54 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:30414 23:55 [US] gruefood (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:10597 23:55 I do enjoy it. Plus I really was obsessed with "first combos" for quite a while. https://nethackscoreboard.org/firstasc.all.html I've built up a pretty good lead on first combos 🙂 That's my claim to fame on nethack, first combos! 23:56 hooly, 298 23:56 I have one (1) first combo :P 23:58 oh cool, nethack scoreboard got new stuff recently 23:58 Most of the variants still have a few (or many) first combos available. When I am playing a variant I understand I play a "potential first combo" probably 99% of the time. Not always, as some ocmbos are fun enough to repeat, but most of the time. 23:58 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) removed Loggers' uncursed +7 silver saber from the swap chest, on T:32610 23:58 Thank you, Logggers. 23:59 no problem 23:59 that silver saber is actually better than the one I'm currently using! mine's only +1 23:59 I'm still interested to see if anyone will take the tsurugi