00:00 DAILY STATS AT 2023-11-21 00:00 UTC: Games: 312, Asc: 9, Scum: 127. 1239745 turns, 23740803 points. 13d 01:01 gametime. (24%Wiz), (57%Hum), (39%Neu), (52%Fem), 9d 23:59 remaining. 00:00 -!- Noims has joined #tnnt 00:00 karafruit: I got four magic lamps in one of my TNNT games – two gave wishes, one didn't, and I kept the fourth for light 00:02 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 00:02 nope, I am not in fact that lucky. 00:03 $lastgame rvcx 00:03 Nesta: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rvcx/tnnt/dumplog/1700520184.tnnt.html 00:04 "Not carrying anything. 00:04 " Thanks for the bones rvcx lol 00:04 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:18438 00:04 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 827 points, 1634 turns, killed by a giant ant 00:04 holy +5 stiletto :O 00:05 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:17309 00:05 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "the blessed master key of thievery", on T:18653 00:06 Stiletto providing a boost to stealth when used for kills would be a nice way to differentiate it from a regular knife 00:06 and/or perhaps a boost to dice 00:07 someone dropped it right outside the general store and he offered me 27 zorkmids for it, like... no I think I'mma keep that 00:08 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) removed allanb's blessed rustproof +3 pair of gauntlets of power from the swap chest, on T:18743 00:08 Making an omelet is hard.... so I've got all the stuff - if the spinach is in a can, do I need to use a tin opener on it? 00:09 shouldn't, did you wield the knife? 00:09 no just carry it 00:09 Spinach is always in a tin, and you just need to carry the tin 00:10 [US] Spider74656 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:11438 00:12 hmmm not sure then, don't think it worked. Wearing the apron, wielding the knife. I shouldn't wear the pot, right? 00:12 You do wear the dented pot 00:12 your violet fungus didn't rot away or something silly like thta, right? 00:12 just picked it up... also I have some tinned stuff I've been carrying around. 00:13 [US] [A]: oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 4298982 points, 72762 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/tnnt/dumplog/1700094517.tnnt.html 00:13 gg 00:14 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:19217 00:14 huh. must have been an order thing. unwielded the knife and wielded it again and it worked. Awesome. Pile of stuff I don't need to carry around anymore. 00:14 grats oh6 00:15 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:34586 00:15 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:37248 00:15 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34587 00:17 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "wand of fire", on T:19271 00:17 congratz oh6! 00:18 -!- klepto has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:19 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) has entered the Arena, on T:37476 00:20 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed noims the Heroine in a deathmatch, on T:37506 00:21 It didn't hurt a bit. 00:22 Sorry, all that trouble and all I got was this lousy ring of slow digestion. 00:23 wow, you did the deathmatch in only 30 turns? 00:23 how did you do the damage? 00:23 18/88 and I'm only on the locate level 00:24 I ...guess. I'm 23 lvl Wizard. Working on the stupid Greater Wizard. Repeated Drain lifes work pretty quick. 00:24 ooh, drain life 00:24 [US] jackbunny (Val Hum Fem Neu) removed efot's uncursed greased bag of holding from the swap chest, on T:17187 00:25 I hadn't thought of that one, that does seem like it would be a good strategy 00:25 [US] jackbunny (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17189 00:25 * ais523 vaguely wonders how "uncursed greased bag of holding" comes about 00:25 can't reflect it.... 00:25 I guess you just have a spare BoH and some spare grease, rather than a wish being involved 00:25 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Bean's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4907 00:26 Don't you usually grease your bag if you get the chance? 00:27 Nesta: I usually don't bother – but even for the people who do, it'd be very weird to put your primary bag into the swap chest 00:27 Drain life was mentioned previously 00:27 so, that's probably a second or spare bag, meaning that that got greased too 00:27 Also sometimes you get plenty of spare bags 00:27 And greasing a donation is a pretty courteous thing 00:29 well, it means you carried a can of grease all the way to the swap chest 00:29 and those things are heavy 00:29 In my case, I found a greased BoH in bones, cancelled it to get the stuff, and ultimately donated the bag itself 00:29 or, no actually 00:29 just grease the bag at the stash and then carry the bag, that's easier 00:30 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry about my connection] 00:30 [US] [D]: Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4309 points, 7457 turns, killed by a crocodile 00:30 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 00:32 Also are cans of grease really that heavy? 00:33 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1176319451176636636/image.png?ex=656e6fdc&is=655bfadc&hm=d11b81cb9256aee8786bc7bf0eec952157c5836a2ab246540fe158abed551aca& 00:33 absolutely not 00:33 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 945 points, 1688 turns, killed by a garter snake 00:34 can of grease weighs 20 00:34 immediately snapped my one-charge cold wand 00:34 psh that's nothing for multiple charges of grease 00:34 so it isn't up there with the 100 of a tinning kit or pick-axe 00:34 but it's still fairly heavy 00:34 I guess, same as one potion isn't too bad 00:34 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:17018 00:35 love to quaff cursed invisibility and get randoported right off the upstair 00:35 [US] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:18683 00:36 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:54385 00:36 [US] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:18686 00:36 can of grease weighs 15, but ais doesn't use BoH, so is prone to overestimate 00:36 ;-D 00:36 Was gonna zap cold but once I put him to sleep and the dragon started wailing, I decided that would be funnier 00:36 Didn't even get his monologue off 00:37 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:21644 00:37 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:54390 00:37 TNNT achievement unlocked: "Exotic Meat". D - a tin of Lord Surtur meat. 00:38 [US] [D]: nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1530 points, 1255 turns, killed by a dwarf 00:39 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 226 points, 1885 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 00:40 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:20700 00:40 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20702 00:42 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:38188 00:43 [US] karafruit (Mon Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:3992 00:43 wheeeee I get to eat BRAINS 00:44 [US] karafruit (Mon Hum Mal Law) tasted meat (lizard) for the first time, on T:3997 00:44 ......brains are not vegetarian, apparently :thinking: 00:44 -!- Noims has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:44 [US] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:19184 00:45 Never have been 00:45 -!- Noims has joined #tnnt 00:45 there goes my alignment lol 00:45 [US] [D]: Spider74656 (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 7160 points, 11449 turns, killed by a wolf 00:47 Alignment is a myth anyway 00:48 Attempting to apply a tinning kit and backing out is not a free action evidently 00:49 ugh, now I'm a cannibal too lol 00:49 yow! are you having fun yet? 00:50 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:50 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 00:50 I mean, Kop Kaptain brain wasn't exactly what I expected... 00:51 I mean I'm a mmf, ofc it's fun. I just feel guilty a lot ;P 00:51 Cannibalism does way more than that 00:51 $lastgame docpi 00:51 Nesta: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/docpi/tnnt/dumplog/1700512676.tnnt.html 00:51 well, yeah, that's a separate issue 00:51 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:22669 00:51 Brain-eating didn't cause cannibalism penalties in 3.4.3. Did it break foodless? 00:51 can of grease weighs 15, but ais doesn't use BoH, so is prone to overestimate ← I generally play with BoH nowadays for speed, I don't actually need it but it reduces backtracking 00:51 because I can just put my entire stash in there and save making stashes at all (by discarding things that I won't need) 00:52 hmmmm does eating disenchanter brain remove intrinsics or just eating the corpse? 00:52 [US] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) removed Umbire's uncursed fireproof +1 cloak of magic resistance from the swap chest, on T:2206 00:52 thanks Umbire! 00:52 why does brain-eating cause cannibalism penalties but not biting things as a vampire? 00:52 [US] [D]: nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 6394 points, 2239 turns, killed by a vampire 00:52 ... not that I got to enjoy it 00:53 ouch 00:53 I feel like vampire biting doesn't increment nutrition 00:53 Also you might just be diving Mines too hard there 00:53 probably 00:54 if you mean me? It's just the poly traps making annoying things 00:54 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) removed elenmirie's blessed +1 silver dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:39995 00:54 and a bad choice on my part of mmf with monk conscience 00:55 Meant nabru 00:55 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:36265 00:56 [US] jackbunny (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:18849 00:59 -!- BestGorilla has joined #tnnt 00:59 -!- klepto has joined #tnnt 00:59 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:40260 01:01 Good morning, or evening 01:01 looking for advice, if anyone has time. 01:01 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 58 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:21600 01:01 [US] Darothok (Pri Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 grey dragon scale mail", on T:1764 01:02 advice: don't eat brains as a monk 01:03 I always seem to have the problem of not enough armor or MR to continue deeper into the dungeon. 01:03 So I hang around at the top, hoping that some monster will drop something usable. 01:03 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 94 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:21735 01:03 between 1 and 4, usually.... some parts of the mines... and occasionally half of sokoban. 01:04 I consider this to be 'work'.... just preparation. 01:04 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:1934 01:04 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 01:04 wow this swap chest seems to be getting worse and worse 01:04 But during this 'work'.... I usually level once or twice. 01:05 People blitz/prio the good stuff, as shown above 01:05 Eventually, the monsters become stronger than I am able to handle. 01:06 What is a good 'rule of thumb' for the first part of the game, where armor is scarce, and MR has not been found/identified? 01:06 yeah but there was usually at least a few things that seemed "good but not for me" and rn I'm not even sure of that... 01:06 Might be that you're also playing monk 01:06 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:27132 01:07 sure but there aren't even any weapons in here 01:07 bestgorilla: ac 0 minimum, ac -4 is workable, ac -10 can start playing on autopilot 01:07 I guess I'd take the green dragon scale mail if I were something else though, yeah 01:08 like you're using weapons as a monk anyway 01:08 right, your point was that it wasn't good because I was a monk 01:08 my point is--if I weren't a monk it wouldn't be good anyway 01:08 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:75835 01:09 BestGorilla: I think this is one of the biggest strategic problems in the early game 01:09 bestgorilla: usually i sweat every point of AC, first by pet curse-testing, then by hauling wholesale amounts to shops and price-id 01:09 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Offler, on T:19157 01:10 I've been experimenting with strategies to get through it, the most successful I've found so far is really investing in a single weapon skill 01:10 so that you can kill enemies faster and the lack of AC doesn't matter so much 01:10 But... to that end... what if there are no shops?... or no way to BuC.....? For example... I was doing work in an shop in this game, and while I was doing that work, about 6 monsters spawned in one room. 01:11 they killed my pet, so I'm without BUC now.... I have made a clear path to the mines, and there is a temple there... BUT.... staying down there will level me up, AND eventually I will be swarmed.... for sure. 01:11 bestgorilla: running the pet helps to have an ally in the early game as well. I usually do what you do - lvl 1-4.... but then flip back and forth between mines and dungeon - push a little, as soon as it's looking hard, back up and down the other side... 01:11 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:41946 01:11 In TNNT you can robo kitty to get a new one 01:11 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:41948 01:12 it can be worth taking some risks to find mithril, or even wearing implausible armor 01:12 The problem is that.... I always end up stuck in a position where I cannot go further, because I don't have what I need, but by hanging around up top, I get levels, and the monsters eventually win. 01:12 when i found a +2 sdsm in a bones I put it on fully expecting cursed 01:12 Run out of resources, or make a mistake. 01:12 at the start of one of my wizard games I was wearing plate mail purely to get the AC to press on 01:12 Nesta: yes, that's a totally reasonable choice 01:12 Most people don't donate weapons because those are a bit harder to select for donation-wise I imagine 01:12 I put a stack of b?oEW in there one game 01:13 the problem always seems to be, I cant continue, so I hang around... hanging around uses up resources, and continuing gets me killed.... I almost feel like I have to get an early wand of wishing just to get a foothold. 01:13 and a +5 silver saber in there in another game 01:13 I literally have a saber from Furey rn 01:13 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:41962 01:13 BestGorilla: fwiw I suspect this is an actual balance problem in 3.6 01:13 [US] jackbunny (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:20373 01:14 I suppose I can go for the cat... What do I need to do in that cat part of tnnt? There is a page for it? 01:14 [US] jackbunny (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +2 Grayswandir", on T:20376 01:15 sometimes, I just go quaffing and reading hoping go get lucky, because doing it 'right' seems to just get me stuck. 01:17 Using the earth scrolls from sokoban to trap the minetown priest and convert the altar is usually how I get my first early game power boost 01:17 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:27560 01:18 I always worry about screwing that up... but I will try it sometime. 01:18 [US] karafruit (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4910 01:19 It’s a good skill to have in 3.6.7 but i think they’re removing it in 3.7 01:19 "removed" in the sense that certain monsters can just pound through boulders after enough time being obstructed 01:20 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:23086 01:20 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:23088 01:20 -!- Noims has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:20 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:4469 01:21 It’s functionally removed in that you can’t convert the altar before you’re strong enough to kill the priest at least 01:21 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:4479 01:22 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:22 BestGorilla: robotsfindkitten is incredibly easy, just timeconsuming 01:22 looking for it now. 01:22 go through the portal and walk into all the objects, one is secretly a kitten 01:22 [US] [D]: gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 2191703 points, 76178 turns, killed by the invisible Wizard of Yendor (with the Amulet), while praying 01:22 and even then not very 01:23 $lastgame gruefood 01:23 Umbire: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/g/gruefood/tnnt/dumplog/1700088747.tnnt.html 01:23 when you find the kitten you're done 01:25 grrrrrrr 01:25 i accidentally hit a floating eye. f f s 01:25 [US] [D]: bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 3580 points, 5672 turns, killed by a cave spider, while frozen by a monster's gaze 01:27 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) removed joes' uncursed +0 unicorn horn from the swap chest, on T:5484 01:27 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 01:27 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:42233 01:28 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:23673 01:28 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5699 01:29 [US] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:4571 01:29 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:42315 01:29 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:28513 01:30 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:30 if you die in Paw Patrol you die in real life 01:32 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:464 01:34 can Artifacts be found in the game, generated naturally? Like.. on a mob, or on the floor. 01:34 yep 01:34 yes, or in a shop 01:34 except quest artifacts 01:35 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:36 so the credit card i found will absolutely just be a normal credit card. 01:36 -!- stagnate has joined #tnnt 01:37 An artifact will be named when you find it 01:37 Quest artifacts you'll only see in bones files, other artifacts can generate normally if their base item does 01:37 some base items do not generate randomly, others do not generate at all 01:42 got it. 01:43 2 scrolls , same name, one is 100, one is 133. Does this higher price reflect that it will be either cursed or blessed? 01:43 No. 01:43 Random markup is a thing that happens 01:43 Beatitude does not impact price 01:43 Thank you 01:44 I don’t think any of the intelligent artifacts can spawn randomly in the dungeon, but the rest can 01:44 Minus the case of water 01:44 was about to ask about tht 01:44 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 190 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:29249 01:44 That's already covered by "quest artifacts don't randomly generate" 01:44 Minus Excalibur (flagged as NOGEN) and Stormbringer (no random runeswords) 01:45 Can the vorpal blade generate randomly? 01:45 Yes, it's not intelligent. 01:45 s/it's/and it's 01:45 I've found Grayswandir before just lying around as well 01:45 It's not a crowning-related thing, that's just how things fell. 01:46 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:29340 01:46 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:46 (Excal *is* intelligent, but behaves exceptionally) 01:46 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 01:47 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:39591 01:48 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:39595 01:48 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 163 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:29525 01:48 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:41331 01:49 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:41332 01:50 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:24784 01:50 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:24793 01:51 it's weird how many artifact rules (like "no random intelligent artifacts" or "only QAs avoid your grasp") are only true because the design space for artifacts is so poorly explored 01:52 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:46071 01:52 Will wearing a single ring imbalance (all things being equal) the 'pray when weak from hunger' equation? (not a ring of hunger, not a ring of slow digestion) 01:52 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:24948 01:53 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:29867 01:53 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:29869 01:53 To a slight degree 01:53 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:39786 01:53 the equation isn't balanced in the first place, but a ring certainly won't help 01:53 bestgorilla: it might if you're playing foodless, but if you're eating at all, then an ordinary ring won't hurt 01:53 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 492 points, 1440 turns, killed by Ms. Sipaliwini; the shopkeeper 01:53 even without one, there's a slight chance of failure unless you have an altar to sacrifice 01:54 But there is no way to tell whether I will get food between the next prayer I do. I guess I probably should keep it off for now 01:54 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:41621 01:56 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:30063 01:56 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first item, on T:11123 01:58 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:25156 01:58 -!- Furey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:59 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:25158 01:59 If it's like, a known "relevant" resistance ring I'd keep it on 02:01 It's protection.... Helpful, but if I don't find food it will get me killed. 02:02 entertaining dilemma! 02:02 * tinklebear loves these 02:02 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:40060 02:02 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:40062 02:03 I'd probably take slightly worse AC until I can settle the food situation long-term 02:03 (not even "for the game" so much as "enough to last until next major objective") 02:03 yep. 02:04 [US] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:6869 02:04 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:12638 02:05 I have 2 tins of Red Mold. If the first Tin is Rotten, then the second MUST Be rotten as well? If it had been identified, it would have said 'tin of rotten red mold'? 02:05 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:46281 02:05 what is the beatitude of the tins, BestGorilla? 02:05 Unknown. 02:06 i do know that uncursed can be rotten sometimes 02:06 I opened the first, ate it. Then the second was identified as 'tin of red mold'... or however it was worded.. 02:06 but I would not conclude the second one is rotten just because it stacked with the first one 02:06 OH.... beatitude = rotten sometimes. 02:06 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 02:07 That took roughly 100 turns probably... the sickness and the opening. Probably have a world of monsters waiting for me somewhere 02:07 preparation style (pureed, etc) would be the same, though 02:09 Well, dlvl 2 is complete.... General Store, identify is identified, food has been ok so far, ring of protection, and 3 '80' scrolls. This is a good start. Hope I keep control of it. 02:09 wow three scrolls of enchant weapon all on this same floor 02:09 -!- a1 has joined #tnnt 02:09 *wishes she weren't a monk* 02:09 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:09 Collect shuriken, you'll have a use for it then 02:09 yeah, I'll keep that in mind if I ever find any 02:09 Also rotten is technically a preparation style 02:09 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:13724 02:09 shuriken aren't exactly common 02:10 I think I --- no I didn't wish for my stack, just collected and then enchanted 02:10 According to the wiki, tins that stack can be different preparation styles 02:10 oh, rotten is the food, not the beatitude. 02:10 I've usually found them in big weapon shops, though occasionally otherwise 02:10 the beatitude is all about opening time.. that is to say... 02:11 yes, beatitude isn't gonna arbitrarily change terminology 02:11 cursed tins are always rotten 02:11 who knows.. either way, I threw up twice. 02:11 uncursed tins are sometimes rotten 02:11 rotten tins occur occasionally as with other prep styles when non-cursed, and cursed tins are indeed always rotten 02:11 I don't mean that at all, Umbire 02:11 Cursed tins are always rotten or booby trapped iirc 02:11 Both 02:11 -!- klepto has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:11 * tinklebear did not know "rotten" was a distinct preparation 02:11 a tin generated cursed is rotten and is likely to be trapped as well 02:11 interesting 02:11 I just mean that maybe the effect was 'rotten' as a result of the 'curse'.... It makes sense to an inexperienced eye that that might be the case. 02:12 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8452 02:13 wait, how come tins you make yourself sometimes make you sick? Aren't those always "homemade" 02:13 rottenness is determined at time of eating, i believe 02:13 ? 02:13 yeah, so how can it be a "preparation style"? 02:13 tins you make are always homemade or rotten 02:13 cursed foodstuffs are rotten---including those that become cursed after generation 02:13 That's perishable stuff, tins are different 02:13 uncursed tinning kits generate tins that are 1/7 rotten and 6/7 homemade 02:14 cursed tinning kits always make cursed tins 02:14 ah 02:14 uncursed tinning kits make uncursed tins 02:14 nope, still determined on opening, just like other food 02:14 which are rotten or homemade 02:15 3.7 changes it so you can identify preparation style before opening 02:17 ooh that's neat 02:17 is it possible to get intrinsics from rotten? 02:17 wow. straight to the point. good question 02:18 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) became Odin's Envoy of Balance, on T:55621 02:19 Preparation style only affects nutrition value 02:19 intrinsic odds are as normal 02:20 but don't eat cursed spinach 02:20 (well, it won't even look like spinach, iirc) 02:20 [US] Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law) found kitten, on T:1588 02:23 "decaying green substance" 02:23 -!- cathartes has joined #tnnt 02:23 still conveys nutrition like normal spinach but lowers strength instead 02:23 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:24 rogerdodger 02:25 [US] [D]: Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1802 points, 2647 turns, killed by a manes 02:26 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 02:28 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:33271 02:28 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:33272 02:29 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:33279 02:30 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Quit: client quit] 02:30 -!- NetSysFire has joined #tnnt 02:34 Large broken box on a level I haven't been to before. 2 boxes in the same room. Likely bones? 02:34 -!- desertgreg has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:34 Watch captain corpse right at the stairs.  bones?  :D 02:35 empty broken box... second box - 2 skullcaps, hard shoes, stamped scroll, unlabeled scroll, gold spellbook, 2 clear potions, pickaxe. 02:35 This looks like a bones file. 02:35 guessing its a priest. 02:36 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 02:37 And the bones dog will kill me. 02:37 BestGorilla: you can throw food at the dog 02:37 that will pacify it 02:37 throw garlic 02:37 melon? 02:37 garlic 02:37 really????!!! 02:37 I thought ... WOW 02:37 melon might splat, then I don't know if it will work 02:37 Garlic missed. 02:37 [US] jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14342 02:38 I don't think melon splats?  Only egg?  I'm pretty sure about melon but I don't know if fruit will tame them. 02:38 missing is ok, it still pacifies 02:38 Did it pacify? 02:38 I didn't notice.... skyrrty 02:38 Skurry 02:38 it did pacify, don't know if the melon then made it hostile 02:38 WOW 02:38 oh cream pie will splat too 02:39 fuck 02:39 fuck fuck fuck 02:39 [US] [D]: bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 953 points, 3361 turns, killed by a wolf 02:40 Everything just falls apart SO quickly. 02:40 might have been the wolf that killed the previous player of that bones file 02:41 $lastgame bestgorilla 02:41 cathartes: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bestgorilla/tnnt/dumplog/1700530122.tnnt.html 02:41 but also, running around with 4 hp isn't always a good idea 02:41 Maybe you missed that I was trying to engrave with Orcrist. 02:42 when that fox came. 02:42 or whtever it was 02:42 and the generator of the bones, killed by a wolf: https://hardfought.org/userdata/S/Spider74656/tnnt/dumplog/1700385871.tnnt.html 02:42 it was the engraving that got me killed. I was trying to get to the stairs, then decided to engrave instead. 02:43 were you writing "HALP"? 02:43 Engraving with your fingers is faster but less reliable. 02:43 (much faster) 02:43 but if you do it when there's still distance between you and an enemy, you're likely to succeed 02:44 [US] [D]: karafruit (Mon Hum Mal Law), 24391 points, 9733 turns, killed by a troll 02:44 There was nothing in the room when I started engraving 02:44 rip, forgot trolls will follow you up stairs 02:44 Engraving with weapons that aren't athames is generally a bad idea anyway 02:44 [US] jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha) removed DekaFumoPuzzle's blessed +1 black dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:14827 02:44 it's 1 turn per letter, so you're helpless for 8 turns 02:44 if you use a non-athame weapon 02:45 (or a gem, or a ring) 02:45 the instinct to run and GTFO is more clever than any sort of "clever" engraving, though 02:46 The safe way to do a slow engraving is to engrave 1 letter at a time when you're away from danger, but that's a lot more keystrokes. 02:46 marker elbereths are fast and 100% spelling correct, even with a cursed marker 02:47 In some cases, it's useful to pre-engrave a slow Elbereth for a future retreat. 02:47 wooo, floor one ring of conflict 02:48 omg are you cereal 02:48 nah I'm more of a fruit 02:48 fuck you (turns u into fruit jello) 02:49 remarking on my last start that lasted about 10 turns. 02:49 I think that's a record for me 02:49 I don't think your pony appreciates being polymorphed into jelly. 02:51 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:17593 02:53 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2839 02:53 -!- klepto has joined #tnnt 02:53 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:42439 02:54 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:17778 02:54 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2735 points, 2253 turns, killed by a gnome king, while fainted from lack of food 02:57 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) removed karafruit's uncursed +0 set of silver dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:9925 02:57 enjoy, bleeko! 03:00 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:01 wow my hp rolls this game have been awful... I'm at level 5 and about as much hp as I had at level 2 last game... 03:01 $whereis karafruit 03:01 Umbire: [US] karafruit : (Mon Hum Fem Law) T:1549 The Gnomish Mines level: 6 03:01 monks don't have good HP, simple as 03:01 that doesn't explain why I had great hp last game 03:02 same combo 03:02 there's a tendency to lowroll Con 03:02 I even have higher con this game 03:02 did you quaff healing a lot? 03:02 not that gave me hp 03:02 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:33603 03:02 I feel like you did 03:02 also you spent a fair amount of last game in MMF form :B 03:03 I mean, if you want to disbelieve everything I say, go right ahead, but it's getting kinda old 03:04 right, I'm probably conflating the two and in any case I apologize for coming across like that 03:04 -!- stagnate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:04 but generally monk HP growth far as I've seen/experienced is less than ideal, to the point I actually bothered with nurse dancing during that one ascension 03:04 it's not gonna be 100% complete piss but more often than not it'll end up like... actually what is it this game, hold on 03:04 *sighs* 03:05 I believe you for the record, I just like to have numbers to work with 03:05 and... yeah, that's pretty low. a bit lower than I expected 03:05 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:33342 03:06 oh look, a pancake laying on the dungeon floor. Of course I'll eat it. 03:06 who wouldn't 03:06 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:33794 03:07 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:33801 03:07 in any case karafruit, you clearly got the short end of the stick HP wise. I'm just pondering the why and how of it 03:07 that was my initial point, yes, that I rolled poorly. 03:08 last game I was at 24 at level 2, though that was with one pray for increase 03:08 which I can still do this game... probably multiple times, because it's that bad 03:08 -!- stagnate has joined #tnnt 03:08 I'm used to such rolls being poor but not that poor 03:09 woah I just went from 27 to 35 holy crap 03:09 still low but significantly better 03:09 and you still have the pots 03:09 ye, for a whole +3, woo 03:10 bless them if you can, you get more out of it 03:10 not base healing 03:10 that's extra and full 03:10 -!- BestGorilla has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 03:11 You begin bashing monsters with your magic whistle.  You kill the newt! 03:11 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:34105 03:11 -!- blankman has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:11 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Fem Cha) removed widmerpool's uncursed spellbook of force bolt from the swap chest, on T:4365 03:12 right 03:12 if I can identify speed then I can upgrade them, though, yeah 03:12 but yes, mostly now I'm just puzzling out loud about how exactly HP rolls work, realizing the exact details escape me quqite a bit 03:12 (again, with my genuine apologies for offending you) 03:13 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:19227 03:13 -!- blankman has joined #tnnt 03:13 iirc it's a d8 for most classes (except barbarian is d10 and like... rogue is d6 or something?) plus a con modifier and a race die (d2 for human, d3 for dwarf, 1 for the others iirc) up to a certain class-dependent level, after which it tapers off a lot 03:14 only remembering because I read the hp wiki article recently 03:14 sounds accurate enough - will read myself later when I'm not increasingly sleepy from dinner 03:16 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 03:16 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:44865 03:17 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27697 03:20 finally got furey's donated saber to +7 03:21 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1637 points, 2313 turns, killed by an orc-captain 03:22 -!- anselmus has joined #tnnt 03:23 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1187 03:24 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10145 03:24 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:45488 03:25 Ranger has the d6 base hp per level, most of the others are d8. 03:25 ah, ranger, not rogue, I remembered it approximately but not entirely correct 03:26 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 03:26 [US] [D]: disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law), 6627 points, 3973 turns, killed by a wolf 03:26 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5646 03:27 -!- xdminsy has joined #tnnt 03:27 incidentally that means Rangers are squishier than I'd approximated previously 03:28 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:42388 03:28 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:42389 03:31 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of gold detection", on T:36222 03:33 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1281 03:33 [US] jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:19294 03:34 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:36253 03:35 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:2584 03:37 [US] [D]: karafruit (Mon Hum Fem Law), 4143 points, 4065 turns, killed by a human mummy 03:37 [US] [D]: lambda (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2410 points, 2477 turns, killed by a wand 03:38 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:36524 03:39 [US] [D]: disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1028 points, 1596 turns, killed by a killer bee 03:39 rip my unintentional foodless run :c 03:40 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) has entered the Arena, on T:36392 03:41 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) has entered the Arena, on T:30243 03:41 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 623 points, 861 turns, killed by a giant ant 03:42 aw 03:43 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) cravenly fled from Furey the Chirurgeon in a deathmatch, on T:36448 03:44 my npc got one flee! 03:44 10k turns without pr 03:45 and because i can't take off the green dsm, almost died just now to lightning 03:45 [US] [D]: disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1013 points, 921 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while praying 03:45 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:36685 03:46 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bow on an altar, on T:4494 03:46 [US] [D]: lambda (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 68 points, 428 turns, killed by a kobold zombie 03:46 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:42785 03:49 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed askhl the Enchanter in a deathmatch, on T:30363 03:50 [US] [A]: efot (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2663796 points, 36728 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/efot/tnnt/dumplog/1700427197.tnnt.html 03:50 gg 03:50 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:21356 03:51 ty 03:51 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1250 points, 2992 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 03:51 [US] [D]: jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 63290 points, 21675 turns, killed by a fire giant 03:51 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:34139 03:52 congratz efot! 03:52 maybe medusa has refl 03:52 thanks Spider 03:53 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:5401 03:54 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 03:54 grats efot! didn't even need the orb with that AC 03:54 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) murdered Danoces, his faithful kitten, on T:5426 03:54 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 03:54 no I really didn't...except to find one portal in the planes 03:55 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:11045 03:55 -!- stagnate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:55 [US] [D]: Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4462 points, 5868 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 03:55 I'm pretty sure you could tank demo with that AC. well, save for the sickness attacks 03:55 didn't mean to ping, srry 03:56 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10436 03:56 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 6390 points, 5912 turns, killed by a chameleon imitating a mastodon 03:57 [US] [A]: Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2694104 points, 42812 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grouchy/tnnt/dumplog/1700356042.tnnt.html 03:58 [US] [D]: bouquet (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 2353 points, 3982 turns, killed by a killer bee (and one other game not reported) 03:59 not a single S on medusa left a corpse 04:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-21 04:00 UTC: Games: 16, Asc: 2, Scum: 0. 136611 turns, 5453194 points. (25%Wiz), 9d 19:59 remaining. 04:00 gg 04:00 [US] [D]: Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 493 points, 697 turns, killed by a dagger 04:01 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:10962 04:02 nope just a sack 04:02 tempted to burn a wish on "refl 04:02 gg 04:03 [US] [D]: mindcool (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 789 points, 1537 turns, killed by a dwarf 04:03 [US] [D]: Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 577 points, 623 turns, killed by a jackal 04:04 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1591 04:06 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 786 points, 1746 turns, killed by a coyote, while fainted from lack of food 04:09 [US] [D]: mindcool (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 101 points, 106 turns, poisoned by a rotted orc corpse 04:10 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:30501 04:12 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:37687 04:13 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an ape, on T:12074 04:14 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:1373 04:15 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:12198 04:19 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed karafruit's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:6458 04:19 thank you karafruit for the wonderful bones elvel 04:20 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:31244 04:20 [US] [D]: mindcool (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 737 points, 1430 turns, killed by a water moccasin 04:20 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:2027 04:22 the one with the magic marker? I don't remember what all else I had... oh, the +2 ww boots... 04:23 oh yeah and a bunch of EW scrolls 04:23 i got orc town and there was nothing in it but candles so i needed this lol 04:23 Hmm, I stood on Elbereth and zapped a wand, and the engraving didn't fade. Do wands not count as attacking? 04:24 tjw: did you attack a monster that doesn't respect E? 04:24 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:112335 04:24 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed jackofclubs' ghost, the former Pilferer, on T:13384 04:24 glad someone got use out of that lovely stiletto and those scrolls! 04:25 I was on my way back down to the swap chest to drop off a second stethoscope but I forgot about that horrible troll, and then I tried to leave him in the level but he followed me 04:25 yes, so I see that doesn't make me a hypocrite 04:26 correct 04:27 if you water prayer with cursed water does it become regular or holy? 04:27 holy 04:28 -!- a1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:28 oh yeh I had the fire horn and the lev and poly control rings... that was a promising run :( 04:28 [US] [D]: mindcool (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1156 points, 2235 turns, killed by a rothe 04:29 -!- karafruit has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 04:30 [US] [D]: mindcool (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 384 points, 386 turns, killed by a dart 04:35 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 3265 points, 11142 turns, killed by a hill orc (and one other game not reported) 04:37 -!- a1 has joined #tnnt 04:37 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:45 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:13191 04:46 [US] gruefood (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) found kitten, on T:1469 04:48 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1133 points, 3105 turns, killed by a killer bee 04:48 [US] [D]: DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 96292 points, 17483 turns, killed by a mountain centaur 04:49 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:6086 04:50 oh god I dont think i have any shops in my dungeon 04:50 other than this armor one 04:51 [US] [D]: mikew999 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 116 points, 868 turns, killed by a goblin 04:51 [US] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1300 04:56 [US] [D]: OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 683 points, 1501 turns, killed by a small mimic 04:56 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:56 [US] [D]: Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 5799 points, 6003 turns, killed by a rothe 04:57 You feel especially healthy. 04:58 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 820 points, 1060 turns, killed by a bat, while unconscious from rotten food 05:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-21 05:00 UTC: Games: 15, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 49922 turns, 113131 points. (40%Hum), 9d 18:59 remaining. 05:02 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:37769 05:03 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1286 05:03 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) removed Furey's uncursed wand of magic missile (0:2) from the swap chest, on T:32895 05:03 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 7579 points, 5502 turns, killed by a gargoyle 05:04 [US] sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law) found kitten, on T:797 05:05 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 267 points, 906 turns, killed by a bat 05:06 [US] mikew999 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1265 05:07 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:37864 05:07 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8666 05:09 -!- Bleeko has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:09 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:33255 05:13 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1415 points, 2892 turns, killed by a killer bee 05:13 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:19556 05:14 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed fragmites' ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3275 05:14 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:14 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9004 05:14 -!- Waffa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:16 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:9405 05:20 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34084 05:20 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:34084 05:20 [US] [D]: Spider74656 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 385 points, 1623 turns, killed by a dwarf zombie 05:23 -!- a1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:24 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:9431 05:24 [US] [D]: mikew999 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 723 points, 2423 turns, killed by a giant mimic 05:24 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:34461 05:27 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:38640 05:27 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:38641 05:27 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1017 points, 2403 turns, killed by a gnome lord 05:28 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:34801 05:31 -!- charlie14690 has joined #tnnt 05:31 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 05:32 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 283 points, 577 turns, killed by a gnome lord 05:32 [US] Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed rvcx's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:6390 05:33 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) has entered the Arena, on T:19785 05:34 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) cravenly fled from Grouchy the Wizard in a deathmatch, on T:19794 05:38 [US] Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:7522 05:38 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1513 points, 2219 turns, killed by a giant ant, while sleeping 05:40 [US] [D]: OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2438 points, 4198 turns, killed by a small mimic 05:41 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 536 points, 1207 turns, killed by a gnome 05:47 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 316 points, 680 turns, killed by a dwarf zombie 05:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 05:52 -!- klepto has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:52 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "a blessed partly eaten credit card named the things we do for achievements", on T:66908 05:53 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:66911 05:54 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 05:59 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13022 06:00 Current Day as of 2023-11-21 06:00 UTC: Games: 59, Asc: 3, Scum: 1. 413345 turns, 12129007 points. 5d 01:37 gametime. (28%Wiz), (57%Hum), (34%Law), (50%Mal), 9d 17:59 remaining. 06:01 -!- klepto has joined #tnnt 06:04 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Death (5 times), on T:67012 06:05 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 887 points, 2156 turns, killed by a bugbear 06:11 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "a blessed novel", on T:67082 06:12 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 741 points, 1829 turns, killed by a rothe 06:13 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:14 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 06:15 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:67115 06:16 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:16 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:18 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:35853 06:19 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 429 points, 908 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 06:22 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:35883 06:27 alright, got lucky. there was a general store below sokoban 06:27 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence (5 times), on T:67189 06:28 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:118070 06:28 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:118071 06:30 [US] [D]: OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 3428 points, 3704 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion, while helpless 06:36 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:37 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Death (10 times), on T:67313 06:37 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:118332 06:39 [US] sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed sirteapot's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1954 06:39 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3508 06:40 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 821 points, 2646 turns, killed by a gnome, while fainted from lack of food 06:40 Yes, lack of attention. 06:41 it's a paradox -- you pay too *much* attention to what's going on, that you miss what's going on 06:43 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "magic marker named jesse we have to get 210 achievements in one game", on T:67382 06:43 miserable gnome dishonored the code of chivalry 06:45 i missplaced the bell. again 06:45 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 06:45 what's the easy way to look for them? 06:45 not at deathmatch/stash or the quest nemesis 06:46 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed arthur's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4283 06:47 I don't know an easy way. object detection will only tell you the top item on a pile 06:47 ttyrec would be my first option 06:48 [US] [D]: martinp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 328 points, 988 turns, killed by a kitten 06:49 that's not an option unfortunately. ttyrec is too big so no dice, even if I had the patience to watch the last three hours at 0.25 speed 06:50 I remember there being a command through linux or smth that someone here once used. I'll try looking into that instead 06:52 Have you formally identified the bell of opening, or is it just a silver bell? 06:52 klepto: https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/tmmhqt/how_to_search_a_ttyrec/ 06:54 grep -a "Bell of Opening" your_ttyrec 06:54 * tinklebear can't read the reddit post 06:55 well, I can, but only the question, not any answers 06:56 that seems to be it martinp. thank you. I'll try to figure out how to do this 07:00 That was easy enough to compile 07:00 and it does search 07:00 just /Bell 07:01 oh really? I haven't gotten any of the programs linked from that page to run locally 07:02 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:02 This one has the link to the playttyrec.c: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Ttyrec 07:02 gcc -o playttyrec playttyrec.c 07:02 do you have a link to the ttyrec where you think you dropped it? 07:03 https://www.hardfought.org/nh/tnnt/trd-us/?file=https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/klepto/tnnt/ttyrec/2023-11-20.20:05:32.ttyrec 07:04 thanks, grabbing it 07:05 you're a godsend, ty 07:05 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:06 -!- charlie14690 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 07:08 -!- charlie14690 has joined #tnnt 07:09 I see you stole it from Nalzok on T27700 or so 07:11 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 07:11 martinp, *liberated 07:11 He stole it back around 27725 07:11 martinp, correct terminology this time, and this way around 07:12 hehe 07:14 no way! I even double checked to see if covetous monsters stole the bell. I figured not since the wiki said he only wants the mitre 07:15 well. I believe a round 3 is in order 07:15 He def took it a couple of times 07:15 Btw what did you use to grep the tty? playttyrec? 07:16 for future reference would be nice to know 07:16 Just used playttyrec and /bell while in the app 07:17 I see. Thanks a lot, you saved me a lot of headache. probably would have scoured all of gehennom top to bottom before going back to the quest 07:17 "the wiki said" 07:17 smdh 07:17 lol 07:18 klepto: https://ibb.co/82wFDLM 07:19 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 150 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:43772 07:19 I remember feeling very smug in that moment when I stole the mitre. What goes around... 07:20 klepto: *libera- oh, you're klepto. Okay, *stole 07:20 Pretty sure he's still got it, doesn't look like it got back into your possession after that 07:21 [US] [A]: charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 4292666 points, 67492 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/c/charlie14690/tnnt/dumplog/1699588108.tnnt.html 07:21 docpi lol 07:21 gg charlie! 07:21 gg charlie! 07:21 [US] [D]: ellone (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 757 points, 1352 turns, killed by a dwarf (and 4 other games not reported) 07:23 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 4163 points, 4428 turns, killed by an owlbear 07:23 woot ascension 07:23 grats charlie14690 07:24 if anyone gets my Deathmath NPC, they'll find a +7 helm of brilliance 07:24 -!- aoei is now known as Amorphia 07:24 galaxy brain 07:26 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 67 points, 239 turns, killed by a black pudding 07:26 -!- charlie14690 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:27 [US] [D]: MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 7936 points, 4583 turns, killed by a watchman 07:28 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:44216 07:28 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:38713 07:29 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 259 points, 474 turns, killed by a jackal 07:30 does the RCS not convey warning when carried any more?  I'm pretty sure it did in previous tourneys? 07:31 [EU] [D]: fragmites (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 44 points, 146 turns, killed by a dart (and one other game not reported) 07:31 it does, it isn't for you? 07:31 oh, it's in my backpack 07:31 doh 07:32 I just got to XL15 and suddenly had lots of numbers appear, and was just a bit nonplussed as I thought I already had warning extrinsically 07:32 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 336 points, 401 turns, killed by a jackal 07:37 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 412 points, 896 turns, killed by a giant bat 07:38 Is there a sensible way of farming paper golems for blank scrolls? 07:40 Except for reverse genocide? 07:41 -!- klepto has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:41 [AU] [Q]: madelotsofspaget (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1357 points, 1945 turns, quit 07:41 you can't revgeno golems, they're not genocidable 07:42 -!- klepto has joined #tnnt 07:42 at least, I'm pretty sure 07:42 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:42 Wha was the option to highlight occupied staircases removed from TNNT/3.6? 07:42 Yeah, you're right, you can't revgeno them 07:42 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:44886 07:43 I never did. 07:43 All right spontiff, I had merely guessed. I shall announce guesses as such from now on. 07:43 I just put an Archon next to him.  What happened next has nothing to do with me, guv ;p 07:43 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:39727 07:45 [EU] [D]: fragmites (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 504 points, 2053 turns, killed by a kitten 07:46 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:32739 07:46 [US] [D]: martinp (Val Hum Fem Law), 769 points, 2090 turns, killed by a gnome 07:46 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 shield of reflection", on T:32740 07:46 man, rough couple of games 07:47 -!- Demo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:47 -!- Demo1 has joined #tnnt 07:48 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2825 points, 3256 turns, killed by a soldier ant 07:48 I have to say, an Archon with a +7 Demonbane and a magic whistle is pretty much an infintitely charged /oDeath that works against undeads too. 07:48 That uncursed scroll of genocide would have been nice to actually use. 07:49 [AU] [D]: madelotsofspaget (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 270 points, 672 turns, killed by a gnome lord 07:49 yeah that's one scary pet 07:50 -!- Arseniy has joined #tnnt 07:52 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:40687 07:52 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 07:54 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Mars, on T:33186 07:54 [EU] [D]: fragmites (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 552 points, 1046 turns, killed by a small mimic 07:56 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:40825 08:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-21 08:00 UTC: Games: 20, Asc: 1, Scum: 4. 2d 01:52 gametime. (31%Pri), 9d 15:59 remaining. 08:01 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:42463 08:04 $lastgame docpi 08:04 Nesta: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/docpi/tnnt/dumplog/1700548966.tnnt.html 08:04 Yes, NEsta? 08:05 -!- charlie14690 has joined #tnnt 08:07 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:42449 08:07 -!- anselmus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:07 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:42451 08:08 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 08:08 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 150 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:45763 08:09 -!- anselmus has joined #tnnt 08:09 [US] [D]: ellone (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 4249 points, 3937 turns, killed by a spotted jelly (and 4 other games not reported) 08:09 [US] Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed docpi's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:11937 08:10 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 08:11 [AU] unit327 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an amulet called pyramid oc named cursed on an altar, on T:3091 08:12 Nesta, Neeeesta, which bones is it? 08:12 minetown in itzchak's doorway 08:12 Ah, that one. 08:12 Cat-02 is alive and well 08:12 Yay! 08:12 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:43310 08:12 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:43313 08:12 Just -02 but still.. 08:13 i left my pickaxe behind while running away from a water nymph 08:14 * Nesta considers going back for it 08:14 Nesta, you have found these bones of mine: https://hardfought.org/userdata/d/docpi/tnnt/dumplog/1700512676.tnnt.html 08:15 Mithril coat, ring of regeneration, cold, and fire resistance, slow digestion, and a hard jewel. Decent stuff. 08:15 Nesta, those nymphs are more hassle than they are worth. 08:15 bones of Izchak's you mean: Izchak gratefully inherits all your possessions. 08:15 Ha! 08:15 The ghost was still mine though 08:15 . 08:16 i've lost my COMR twice this game 08:16 Oh, you mean that Izchak is peddling my former inventory now? 08:16 i ran away before getting a good look 08:16 this wizard is kleenex 08:17 shiny hazy kleenex 08:17 Nesta, when it comes to nymphs: Pet job, magic missile, bolts of cold, or fire, genocide, anything that does them in. Sleep is good, too. 08:17 Nesta, it is a decent bones pile. Worth it. 08:18 daggers/darts/arrows also work, depending on your role skill 08:18 running away is my best option 08:18 tjw, those nymphs are too fast for me to kill them quickly enough with thrown weapons. 08:19 [US] [A]: klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2426298 points, 42768 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/klepto/tnnt/dumplog/1700510734.tnnt.html 08:19 oo grats 08:19 gg 08:19 ty 08:20 You never allowed a high priest to die. 08:20 You never allowed a Rider to die. 08:20 Wizard, even 08:21 Did you foolishly allow yourself to die, Nesta? 08:21 The quest nemesis was being stingy about the bell so he wasn't spared 08:21 many times, but not this time 08:22 I support that decision, klepto. Gott stand by one's principles. 08:22 I support that decision, klepto. Gotta stand by one's principles. 08:22 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: spontiff] 08:24 Ah, Nesta, you commented on klepto's achievement. 08:24 * docpi sees 08:24 I see. 08:25 it used to be that you could just rob everyone blind and be merry, docpi. 08:26 I still do, and am! 08:28 gg klepto! 08:30 -!- klepto has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:30 -!- klepto has joined #tnnt 08:33 ty kara. wish you luck with whatever crazy shenanigans you're up to. Still mindblown by that nudist run 08:33 [EU] fragmites (Cav Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3134 08:34 -!- charlie14690 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:35 [EU] [D]: fragmites (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 1973 points, 3178 turns, killed by a white unicorn (and one other game not reported) 08:35 [US] Unguarded1765 (Mon Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:70906 08:38 heh, just been trying a weaponless monk so far, nothing too exciting. had a promising run die to not remembering trolls follow you up stairs but at least someone got good bones out of it 08:40 learned that turning into a master mind flayer as a monk is very bad for your alignment score though. 08:40 Just for the record, gentletournamenters, I checked the color of the unicorn in advance this time, and it is a peaceful co-aligned unicorn. 08:41 So there will be no ruffles with it this time 08:41 (I hope it does not remember me from last time..) 08:41 a-yup. my personal favorite monk splat was having my gloves evaporated by a titan before fighting a cockatrice 08:41 -!- arahael_ has joined #tnnt 08:42 also got a lovely luck penalty and aggravate monster from fighting a kop from a poly trap. it was a time. 08:42 very wise docpi 08:42 oof that's rough 08:43 woah, done already, klepto 08:43 congrats! 08:43 A co-aligned unicorn in sokoban is nice to have. Nakes for good jewel detection because it cannot teleport away, and remains readily available in a fairly confined space. 08:43 i mean. It's almost dawn here so it sure doesn't feel like it was very fast but ty 08:43 I casted create monster at an altar and got three chickatrices; nothing went wrong and I even sacrificed one, but I was scared the whole time. 08:44 -!- anselmus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:44 [US] ellone (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed arthur's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2643 08:44 -!- anselmus has joined #tnnt 08:45 honestly, I just gave up weaponless after that happy accident. Got firebrand on my next run and never looked back 08:45 oh something I was wondering during my nudist run--does using a stethoscope on one without gloves kill you? 08:45 I'm standing on the downstair at Medusa's. She is standing next to me, sleeping 08:45 (could be lying down, I suppose, but you know what I mean) 08:45 chat with her, I'm sure she'll be happy to see you 08:45 "Medusa seems not to notice you." 08:46 I've waited for a few turns, too. 08:46 still groggy it seems 08:46 don't want to disturb her... 08:46 ...but I'd like to get back upstairs 08:47 try taking off your reflection, I bet then she'll wake up real fast 08:47 docpi unicorn also gives you a way to just plain cheat soko :-) 08:47 ah yes, a rock solid strategy 08:47 karafruit, I've already removed reflection. 08:47 I took that off before I arrived 08:47 Nesta, how so? 08:47 you trying to keep medusa alive? 08:48 ahhh trying to fight her honorably? 08:48 I mean, I do kind of like that idea, Nesta 08:48 the only penalty for soko exploits is luck right? 08:48 yeah, karafruit. I've been fighting her without reflection lately 08:48 ideas that come from me at 1:45AM are not guaranteed to be cogent 08:48 tinklebear, considering a snow white move? 08:48 but this time she just wants to nap 08:48 it's easier with invisibility then. poke her, wait for her to move off the stairs and when she's not adjacent go up 08:49 oh, I've got the stairs, klepto 08:49 she's not on them 08:49 [US] [D]: ellone (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2024 points, 2899 turns, killed by a soldier ant 08:49 nvm then 08:49 Ah, Nesta, I see. These special solution paths do not occur to me naturally, since I play by the rules on principle. 08:49 team a takes another life 08:50 what is a snow white move, docpi? 08:50 something to do with apples? 08:50 * docpi blows a kiss to tinklebear 08:50 * tinklebear turns to flee 08:50 Muah. 08:50 Heheheh 08:51 Can't remember what the other fairy tale was where the prince would arrive to kiss the bride back to life.. 08:52 sleeping beauty? 08:52 she is! 08:53 Thank you kodon. I was so taken by the beauty part that I forgot about the sleeping part in the two-worded title, while trying to think which fairy tale featured a sleeping princess... 08:53 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 08:53 Maybe I should take a break from playing now, so I do not try to kiss a footrice next.. 08:53 just attack her if you have the stairs, no reflection, and blind 08:53 I can feel Perseus looking worriedly out of the corner of the room 08:54 (foot in mouth, with rice..) 08:54 -!- Nesta has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:55 klepto, Challenge him to a staring contest! He obviously lost the last one, so he seems like an easy opponent for it! 08:55 * docpi chuckles. 08:55 heh 08:56 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:45042 08:56 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:45053 08:57 nice, happy ascension run elenmirie 08:57 ok firefox you have forced me to use...erm, "web?" 08:57 clearly a lot of thought went into this browser 08:59 [US] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) just found a random wand of polymoprh, and will not be afraid to use it.. eventually, on T:2874 on Sokoban level: 4 09:00 well... if I could interest in a little light larceny 09:00 minetown does have some rather naive shopkeepers 09:02 Meaning, klepto, that an upset lichen shopkeeper is easy to ignore? 09:02 Then again, a Master Lich shopkeeper... 09:02 Or a "you dealt it!" Master Mind Flayer.. 09:04 no, that's just cruel. 09:04 Tame him and take him along with you 09:04 You know what's cruel, klepto? nethack is, and RNG doubly so. 09:05 Bonus points if you name him "I broke it, but he paid for it" 09:05 Heh. 09:05 Don't lie. That's what keeps you hooked 09:06 (but having died to a poly'd MMF & Arch lich... enjoy the ride. It won't last) 09:08 Man, navigating considerable hostile monsters as a Wizard in Sokoban sure is tricky. Gotta align the monsters so the force bolt does not shatter boulders. 09:09 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:10 normally I don't condone start scumming. But... sleep *shank *shank *shank. Never gets old 09:11 Actually, wizard is up next for me. What words of wisdom can you impart on this poor pleb? 09:13 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed wand of undead turning", on T:40297 09:17 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:45236 09:17 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 halberd", on T:119949 09:18 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:119962 09:18 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:119963 09:21 Man, those rothes sure are nasty 09:21 klepto: *Wizzard 09:21 * docpi smiles. 09:22 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:45577 09:24 but very tasty. One rothe a day keeps the mumak away 09:26 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:7072 09:26 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 09:30 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:7258 09:30 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #tnnt 09:31 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 09:31 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law), 720805 points, 40767 turns, drowned in a pool of water by an electric eel 09:31 lol 09:32 nnoooo, tinklebear. 09:32 klepto, how is your wizzardry coming? 09:32 ocean man... take me to the land... 09:34 Currently taking a small break because I had a very lucky start 09:34 -!- raisse has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:34 I'll have to step out in a bit but I'll be back to claim that all roles for my clan later today 09:35 what about u? 09:36 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 09:38 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:45764 09:38 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:45773 09:39 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 5344 points, 2111 turns, killed by a leocrotta 09:40 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 potions of acid", on T:120929 09:45 Ellone, I got your ghost right here. 09:46 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:121065 09:47 [US] [D]: Spider74656 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 800 points, 3088 turns, killed by a giant mimic 09:51 [US] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed ellone's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:5361 09:51 [AU] [D]: madelotsofspaget (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 505 points, 1543 turns, killed by a rabid rat 09:51 Ellone's bones are these: https://hardfought.org/userdata/e/ellone/tnnt/dumplog/1700551359.tnnt.html 09:53 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) has entered the Arena, on T:35711 09:53 I played an entire game without any bones yesterday. You people need to start dying more often. 09:54 BEHiker91W, I have been dying right, and left, even from food poisoning after I had found a wand of wishing on the floor tile right next to me on T:1 09:54 $lastgame tinklebear 09:54 anselmus: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/tnnt/dumplog/1700335728.tnnt.html 09:55 [US] [D]: WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 6388 points, 4410 turns, killed by a warg (and one other game not reported) 09:55 Early /wishing is (delayed) instadeath. 09:56 Indeed it was, BEHiker91W, but because of an especially YASD this time. 09:57 [US] [D]: WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 125 points, 273 turns, killed by a goblin 09:59 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 potions of acid", on T:121368 09:59 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur, on T:1359 09:59 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 913 points, 1361 turns, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Vita Fidelia 10:02 * anselmus eyes tinklebear 10:06 is still a little tilted after the abrupt ending to a seaside picnic 10:06 *am 10:06 Yeah, tinklebear, that is postXYZ's trademarked way to die. 10:07 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Notable_players#pots164 10:08 * tinklebear is not going to read the wiki 10:08 it's livelogged here all the time 10:08 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:08 well, in #hardfought, etc 10:09 true persistence 10:11 -!- anselmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:14 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) killed WizardOfPoland the Wizard in a deathmatch, on T:35842 10:17 [AU] [D]: madelotsofspaget (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 286 points, 1054 turns, killed by a wand 10:21 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 1022 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:48209 10:22 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 10:23 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:48362 10:24 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1677 points, 2577 turns, killed by a rabid rat 10:24 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:122787 10:24 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3107 10:25 tinklebear: Groundhog nethack 10:26 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1891 points, 3520 turns, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 10:26 [AU] madelotsofspaget (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Hachi, his faithful little dog, on T:735 10:29 [AU] Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed sirteapot's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:3919 10:29 [US] [D]: WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 337 points, 529 turns, killed by a boulder (and 3 other games not reported) 10:31 So basically, gentletournamenters, the difference between a cloak of magic resistance, and an amulet of unchanging is that the cloak additionally protects from system shock? 10:32 Because it prevents polymorph traps to affect the wearer altogether? 10:32 It, the cloack. 10:32 Cloak 10:33 (Swamps follow only later in the game) 10:35 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:36 [US] [D]: oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 258 points, 939 turns, killed by a bat 10:36 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:123403 10:39 [US] [D]: WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 741 points, 1056 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt (and 3 other games not reported) 10:39 plus it gives, you know, magic resistance :) 10:40 [US] Unguarded1765 (Mon Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an Aleax, on T:73709 10:42 [AU] Tangles (Pri Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:4968 10:45 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) averted death (turned to slime by a green slime), on T:123759 10:46 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a horned devil), on T:123762 10:49 [US] [D]: walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2451663 points, 123763 turns, killed by a touch of death (with the Amulet) 10:50 $lastgame 10:50 Umbire: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xororand/tnnt/dumplog/1700561670.tnnt.html | [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/w/walkera/tnnt/dumplog/1699435953.tnnt.html | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/m/madelotsofspaget/tnnt/dumplog/1700561133.tnnt.html 10:50 Once they got slimed that's all she wrote 10:52 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 10:54 [AU] [D]: madelotsofspaget (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3011 points, 2422 turns, killed by an elf zombie, while sleeping 10:57 [AU] [D]: madelotsofspaget (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 85 points, 381 turns, killed by a fox 10:58 [US] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed sirteapot's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:1569 11:02 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:04 [AU] unit327 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3232 11:04 [US] [D]: WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3044 points, 2163 turns, killed by a panther (and 2 other games not reported) 11:05 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 mjollnir", on T:2676 11:06 docpi, unchanging is absolutely serious about unchanging, and unchanging alone. magic resistance is a package deal, and is not-so-serious about unchanging per se. (you can rip your MR cloak, but unchanging won't let you do that) 11:07 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3248 points, 1340 turns, killed by a vampire lord 11:07 ah yes, lycanthropy 11:08 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:09 tinklebear, I mean when stepping on polymorph traps 11:10 okay, sure. both MR and unchanging do keep you from using polymorph traps 11:10 The cloack would not allow the trap to have an effect on the monster, while the amulet would... resist the trap, but maybe not a possible shock from it? 11:10 Polymorph traps don't induce system shock, pretty sure. 11:10 Oh. 11:10 Thanks, Umbire. 11:10 * docpi ohed 11:11 And even if they did, both prevent you from polymorphing in the first place, so a "failure" couldn't occur to begin with. 11:11 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 11:12 * docpi ahs 11:12 Ah. 11:13 I see, thank you, Umbire. That clarifies it well. 11:13 [AU] [D]: madelotsofspaget (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 494 points, 1220 turns, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 11:14 [AU] Tangles (Pri Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7789 11:14 "an effect on the monster" <-- I would be surprised if you managed to get a pet, or any monster (not yourself) to wear unchanging. 11:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:18 Long overdue for Gehennom, but worth it all the same 11:18 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1176481785429893211/image.png?ex=656f070b&is=655c920b&hm=1bc64d8cb0818ba8e9488fdc082c0c61e4ea750d5e32a9ff4f8d982dec4795c2& 11:19 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 9601 points, 8393 turns, killed by a gargoyle 11:19 nice 11:22 tinklebear, I make an effort to use proper terminology, and where the game does not make a distinction, I do not, either. The adventurer is (also) termed a monster by the game, so hence. 11:23 very mathematical of you, docpi 11:23 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 11:23 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 165 points, 190 turns, killed by a dwarf 11:23 "monster theory" 11:24 Me integrates tinklebear professionally. 11:26 [EU] [D]: abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1809 points, 3184 turns, killed by an elf mummy 11:26 With great skill, and accuracy! 11:26 Annoyed water-walking doesn't auto-ID on water walking but then I all but knew those worn boots had to be it 11:33 Very annoyed a demilich decided to interrupt me killing and eating a water troll but I got a marker out of their shenanigans so. 11:34 [EU] [D]: lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 734 points, 2192 turns, killed by a dwarf 11:35 -!- Bleeko has joined #tnnt 11:39 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1359 points, 1601 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:39 (flash, thunderclap, organ music) 11:42 And death drop spellbook of identify, because I needed to sell this shieldwitch harder 11:44 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:36173 11:45 0:83 marker 11:50 So I just waster three perfectly good charges on a giant mimic. 11:50 Of polymorph. Charges of polymorph. 11:50 In Sokoban. 11:52 Oh, so I cannot move diagonally between a corner, and a boulder, in Sokoban, but this giant mimic can? 11:52 them's the rules 11:52 * docpi throws a scornful frown at the whole devteam 11:53 one set for you, another for every other monster 11:53 And to think that I am doing this for fun, and entertainment.. 11:54 So I am either very creative here, or I shall soon get pronounced killed by Croesus. 11:54 It's been that way since Soko was introduced 11:55 With that boulder behind the mimic, I cannot even cast force bolt at it. 11:56 if you prefer more symmetry, there is FIQhack, where gnomes can genocide your pets 11:56 * docpi hahs 11:56 Hah. 11:56 (and not just gnomes) 11:57 You just have to leave, grab range weapon and come back. Sometimes that happens in soko 11:57 Okay, so fighting the soldier ants two level below is it then. 11:57 * docpi trudges off. 11:58 That or break the boulder and use a scroll of earth if you dont have enough 11:58 Do you not have an offense wand that isn't striking/force bolt? 11:58 s/wand/wand or spell 11:59 Not really, Umbire, two which just add writing, create monster, cancellation, and polymorph. 12:00 Current Day as of 2023-11-21 12:00 UTC: Games: 121, Asc: 5, Scum: 13. 779594 turns, 22098424 points. 11d 17:56 gametime. (27%Wiz), (62%Hum), (39%Neu), (54%Mal), 9d 11:59 remaining. 12:01 My only spells are haste self, and force bolt. All the other spellbooks are outside Sokoban, and unidentified anyway. 12:01 The wand of polymorph has spent four charges already, and is probably empty now. 12:02 One for engrave testing, and three at the mimic. And to think that I remembered how polymorph is useless against mimics. 12:02 Only too late. 12:02 it is? 12:02 tinklebear, zapped three times to no avail. 12:03 * tinklebear is astonished 12:03 Either they have high maqgic resistance, or they can only toggle polymorphing between appearances. 12:03 -!- jientho has joined #tnnt 12:03 they have MMR of 20 ... not high at all 12:03 Shapeshifters behave oddly with polymorph. 12:04 I do not want to look it up in the wiki because I wanted to play TNNT/3.6 largely unspoiled. 12:04 See what good that is doing me now. Kind of "in". 12:05 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) removed Furey's uncursed bag of holding from the swap chest, on T:36329 12:05 [US] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:6640 12:06 docpi the problem isn't polymorph. the problem is you have no ranged attack. 12:07 I agree, Furey, and three soldier ants, of which one has polymorphed into a tiger, and another into an imp. Just to add insult to injury. 12:08 I mean, I would rather deal with tigers and imps than soldier ants, but also don't you think you're rolling the dice a bit more than necessary with that approach? 12:08 I am a bit clueless, Umbire, suggestions welcome, also lectures. 12:08 oh god not the lectures 12:09 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4524 12:09 tinklebear, Any opportunity to learn something new is an excellent opportunity. 12:10 true. but sometimes what looks like education is ... something else 12:10 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) removed DekaFumoPuzzle's blessed +1 gray dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:4606 12:10 Generally polymorphing something that's about to kill you is a last resort by sheer virtue of "it can turn into something that kills me about the same or 10x harder" 12:11 tinklebear, Umbire and I have already settled that two days ago. I strictly keep out of whatever he does with blue jellies in the privacy of his own game. 12:11 cf. I once had a game where I poly'd a nymph and it became a demilich 12:11 nymphs are annoying, demiliches are deadly 12:11 then I understood poly'ing monsters is a last resort indeed, not something to do on the regular 12:12 I know, Umbire, and nabru, but with at least three solfdier ants below, and a giant mimic ahead, I have run out of sensible options. 12:12 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:52541 12:12 Just break the boulder near a 600th turn, soak the Luck penalty and zap it to death. 12:12 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:52548 12:12 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 781 points, 1272 turns, killed by a gnome 12:13 What with the giant mimic mimicking a boulder, I am quite stuck between a rock, and a hard stone. 12:13 In Sokoban. 12:13 sokoban is a trap that leaves no bones 12:13 They always do that in Sokoban. 12:13 Umbire, if I could zap it to death at all, I would have already done it. 12:13 And you know it's not actually a boulder, so I'm assuming it's just in the path with one 12:14 In which case you can, you just have to wait off the Luck penalty 12:15 You lack the background story, Umbire: The mimic was downrange behind a boulder, so I could not push up to it. I threw coins at it, and it came down towards me. Now it is in the open, but before a boulder. So no force bolt. 12:15 you picked up some scrolls of earth on the first level, yes? 12:16 I've said you can zap force bolt and take the Luck penalty about two or three different times 12:16 And since it is a giant mimic, and this 3.6 has made absolutely clear that mimics somehow die way harder here than in 3.4.3, I decided to flee downstairs, to cuddle with the soldier ants. 12:16 sometimes shit happens, especially in Sokoban, and it's a matter of working around it 12:16 tinklebear, yes, I did. I hid them under the remaining boulder on the first level of Sokoban. Neat stash. 12:17 Depending on the 4th floor map and how you've been solving it you might not need to use that scroll of earth 12:17 The way I do it there's usually two spares 12:18 Yes, I think that I could take the penalty. If I get to fit a sufficient number of force bolt hits against that giant mimic. Did I mention that it is a giant mimic? 12:18 It's 7 AC. 12:18 At worst you're just gonna need a bunch of force bolts, their HP isn't THAT high. 12:19 I have been missing hits so much, so often in TNNT/3.6 that I do not rely at all on my chances. 12:19 So if I could somehow muster an instakill, that would be nice. 12:19 I just stabbed them with a trained-up weapon. Didn't take too many hits... 12:20 I'm really not certain that's a 3.6 thing, but in any case you're at minimum basic in attack spells (assuming wizard) 12:20 I stand a few squares away and throw daggers. 12:20 and again, 7 AC target, 3 speed, so the odds are at least in your favor 12:20 And if all else fails, engrave E, scare it back and try again 12:20 I currently am XP:8, HP:59, AC -1 And every single monster lord has bludgeoned me almost to death with two or three hits while I keep missing them five times in a row. 12:20 Yea, daggers FTW in any weak starting class 12:21 Umbire, engraving might actually do the trick. 12:21 the G-lords are tough bastards, docpi 12:21 Sounds like you're getting a to-hit penalty from something. 12:22 [US] Spider74656 (Rog Orc Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:2422 12:22 The starting quarterstaff isn't the best but it's an okay enough weapon, but if you're trying to train/use/force/w.e. something else then 12:23 -!- fakepass has joined #tnnt 12:23 Oh great, I managed to escape the two soldier ants, the tiger, and the imp, and now: Two killer bees! 12:23 nice 12:24 * docpi scowls at RNG 12:24 only two? 12:24 Three after all, but I managed to dispatch them. I have successfully fled the level. 12:24 * docpi phews 12:24 PHEW! 12:25 by all accounts it seems like the single giant mimic was the easier target 12:25 have you explored the mines, docpi? 12:25 No, tinklebear, and I have just decided to do just that now. 12:26 Umbire, even small mimics have killed me so often this TNNT, that I am not going to engage any of them in melee. 12:26 could get some daggers, darts some other ranged weapons in the mines 12:26 Or... 12:26 force bolts? 12:27 Genuinely, if you're attentive you can usually spot where mimics are (or might be) and plan around that 12:27 force bolt sucks imo 12:27 It can and often does, but sometimes it gets the job done 12:27 but I am not a pro-wizard 12:27 Umbire, you know that I have force bolts. I merely do not want to take a penalty. Also, I want to play Sokoban cleanly. 12:28 * tinklebear respects docpi's adherence to vision 12:28 Play cleanly next time. Get past it today and do better tomorrow. 12:28 And in shops, the mimics often enough had potions behind them. Three in a liquor store, even! 12:29 Aynway, I luckily got out of that mess for now, and shall peek into the Mines next. 12:29 Even when they move there's usually only so many spots they can be, so you can usually position yourself to avoid that more often than not 12:30 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed abacus66 the human mummy, and former Conjurer, on T:8603 12:30 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:1589 12:31 * docpi is taking out his frustration on the hysterical statues around the Oracle. 12:32 There. 12:32 Darn, the kitten level has a few surprises. 12:32 that's what force bolt is for: breaking things. 12:33 Hell, you can toss a coin to uncloak one and pull it into a more convenient spot, it's not 100% reliable but it's v. workable 12:33 [US] [D]: efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 2394 points, 6160 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 12:33 Like what, arahael? 12:33 need something broken? Force Bolt is there 12:33 Umbire, that is exactly what I did this time. It worked as intended. 12:34 Also, you saw what happened the last time I tossed a coin down a row of items in a shop. 12:34 * tinklebear wonders what happened 12:34 ...no I didn't? 12:34 did you hit the shopkeeper? 12:35 docpi: I used a magic whistle. 12:36 I hit a mimic standing right next to me. It hit once, and I was dead. 12:36 arahael, neat! 12:36 yeah, you need to anticipate what might happen, as a consequence of your actions, docpi 12:37 so, like "I'm throwing this to uncloak mimics in this row. What if the first item is a mimic? Hmmm..." 12:37 tinklebear, you had to be there to see how awkward the whole situation was. 12:37 ok 12:37 :D 12:37 tinklebear, I agree. 12:37 lol 12:37 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Tangles' ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:2057 12:38 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:9004 12:38 Okay, three rothes killed, four more on the level. RNG is trying to kill me. 12:38 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1313 points, 2100 turns, killed by a death ray 12:38 Well, that was just unlucky. 12:38 Then of course, is that not the main intention of RNG? 12:39 RNG trying to keep you fed, maybe 12:39 sending you food 12:39 a bitey care package 12:40 Yeah, "razor sharp food". 12:41 (Some killing required) 12:41 just don't ask me to rose-tint what the RNG sent arahael 12:44 $lastgame arahael 12:44 nabru: [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/tnnt/dumplog/1700569080.tnnt.html 12:46 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 12:49 Damn, literally gnome with wand of death 12:49 Not much you can do about that lol 12:49 What is it with gnomes in the Mines running around with lit candles?? 12:49 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 12:49 pretty helpful of them 12:49 They do that so you can get a light source 12:49 Gnomeds need to see too 12:49 -d 12:49 Even if its pretty temporary 12:50 3.4.3 mines were super annoying when you don’t have dark vision, every floor is dark, and you dont find any lamps 12:52 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed WizzyTheWeird's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:11328 12:52 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "2 uncursed scrolls of genocide", on T:21112 12:53 @coeurdleon and when the grues are out and about! 12:53 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:21113 12:54 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:48840 12:54 And yet, the gnomes burn down the candles, making them useless for the Candelabrium later. 12:55 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:48853 12:55 if only 3.6 had added another dedicated new source of candles fort he candelabrum... 12:55 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:57824 12:55 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 469 points, 582 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while sleeping 12:55 Man, arahael didn't get two squares off the steps. Dang GWODs 12:56 Two-weaponing Mjoll/Fureysaber without any skill >>>>> 12:56 At last. I reached Minetown, and the temple there is co-aligned. 12:57 is fureysaber something you got from the chest, you found in bones, or pried from his cold dead hands in the deathamtch arena? 12:57 unbire: sometimes enthusiasm > skill 12:57 -!- phinxy has joined #tnnt 12:57 That altar is going to see some serious sacrificing 12:58 I mean the saber's also +7 now :B 12:59 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:01 Finally 18/**, thanks for reading that cursed create monster 13:02 Ha! Ate a corpse from an elf zombie. Finally it was 1) not tainted, and 2) gave me sleep resistance. 13:02 That should have happened to me on my Wand of Wishing run earlier today. 13:03 "should" lol 13:03 is that the one where you ate a corpse on a trap? 13:03 because I really, really would not recommend that. 13:04 * tinklebear might be misremembering something from backscroll 13:05 No that was precisely it actually 13:05 god. don't do that again 13:05 those corpses are OLD 13:05 I mean corpses on traps aren't pre-aged so IF you get to them quick enough it might be worth 13:06 but that's a big if, and zombie/mummy corpses are a gamble outright 13:06 it's so nice if you have a tinning kit so you can tin the elf zombies for extra chances of sleep res 13:06 neither of which are necessary or worth it until you can reliably cure illness 13:07 "corpses on traps aren't pre-aged" <-- dubious claim 13:07 no I think that is correct 13:08 The issue there is they're gonna be aged by the time you discover a majority of them 13:08 if the claim is correct, then it is a bug 13:08 Given the ratio of "bones-able traps in starting room" to "same but in not-exactly-that-room" 13:08 [US] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering jackal corpses on an altar of Thoth, on T:8247 13:08 it doesn't make narrative sense 13:09 Cue, the hill orcs. 13:09 NHIRL exists for a reason 13:09 no it doesn't Umbire 13:09 the poor creatures died on the trap just before you arrived 13:09 no they did not 13:09 they so did! 13:10 bs 13:10 narrative! 13:10 this is a weird and arbitrary hill to die on even by the standard 13:10 You're the one dying on a stupid hill, Umbire 13:10 ? 13:10 I think even corpses from real bones are still fresh when the level is loaded? 13:10 I'm just insisting on narrative coherence 13:11 I believe in my story 13:11 dying on that hill :-P 13:11 "Yo hill! You are stupid!" Hah. 13:11 One thing I learned the hard way at first: (un)dead corpses -- zombie, mummy -- died long (100) before I "killed" them. Not safe to eat. 13:11 and I'm saying that's never been a thing to that level, kinda by design of being a roguelike 13:11 The hill is, not Umbire. Settled! 13:11 also typoing "NHINRL" in the process 13:12 mobileuser, it's absolutely the same with actual bones corpses, though I usually also don't care about those eating-wise unless they're elves 13:12 heh 13:12 or unless I have a tinning kit, so I can "bury" the poor sap 13:12 I had noticed that Umbire. Good thing that there are currently no zombies, mummies, or corpses thereof within reach. 13:12 "you find a hidden entrance to a dungeon beneath some ancient structure. on exploration of the first few levels, you encounter several {fresh,mouldering} corpses in pitfalls, some of them spiked" 13:13 which is more ...out-of-genre? "fresh", or "mouldering"? 13:13 decomposing? 13:13 tinklebear, think cheese. 13:13 it isn't a murder mystery. they aren't recent deaths 13:13 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:14 yes, mouldering == decomposing 13:14 Or ham. There is a reason some of it is called "cured" 13:14 * docpi smiles brightly 13:14 See? SEE? It all makes sense! 13:14 given it's an ancient structure with kitchen sinks, credit cards and fedoras I feel like much of the anachronism is built-in 13:14 perhaps the hidden entrance is not so hidden as you think. it's a busy route in reality 13:15 are we debating things we'll never truly know the answers to again? :) 13:15 narrative! 13:15 \o/ 13:15 this is the way 13:15 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:50349 13:15 Yeah, mobileuser, just like the regular hangouts of criminals which all cops in the region know about. 13:15 it's also a dungeon that literally changes every time you enter so for all you know they might well have eaten shit before you arrive 13:15 arrived* 13:16 I headcanon it whichever way I feel like atm, for me it's less about the narrative I want and more about the one that develops as I play 13:17 [EU] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:26284 13:17 hm, surprisingly no purple L this floor 13:20 So I get purple & instead 13:20 Thank tits I have free action 13:20 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:57985 13:20 Basically 3-hit 13:21 Hmmm, do I do the thing and shoot for Demogorgon this game or no 13:22 yes 13:23 src/mklev.c: "if (otmp) otmp->age -= 51; /* died too long ago to eat */" 13:24 "things we'll never truly know the answers to" 13:24 Huh, could've fooled me 13:24 Good to know, though 13:24 $who 13:24 xdminsy: [US] Spider74656 jientho DekaFumoPuzzle docpi Umbire | [EU] xororand noims pinball elenmirie Raisse | [AU] Tangles 13:24 I am defeated 13:25 * Umbire zaps mobileuser with undead turning 13:25 Lol, got genocide and charging in the same ID scroll. MVP right there 13:25 why do I feel like a zombie now 13:25 but I'm the one "dying on a hill" 13:25 that's some bullshi 13:26 Excellent, tinklebear, great view 13:26 we still dont know. did it die 3 days ago? 3 weeks? we'll NEVER KNOW 13:26 :P 13:27 Look, people, there are monsters out there to dispatch. 13:27 or make friends with 13:27 *clap clap* get to it, gentletouernamenters 13:27 it genuinely didn't seem serious enough to get wound up over, and at worst I have to adjust my personal knowledge base 13:27 hill orc just wants a hug! 13:27 tinklebear do you know what's the chance of getting foodpois if one kill a elf zombie and immediately eat the corpse? 13:28 I do not, xdminsy. 13:28 I'm not sure but last time I tried in wizard mode that seems it's safe to try this 50 or 100 times and never get foodpois. 13:28 but in my experience, if i quickly kill a *fresh spawn*, then sometimes I get away with it, and sometimes I do not 13:29 my experience is not in wizard mode 13:29 and I do not keep a spreadsheet of the data 13:29 sorry :D 13:29 one time I ate a giant zombie corpse to get rid of it in evil but I was satiated fully from eating a dragon and when I ate it it wasn’t tainted and I died 13:29 I'm not sure, those zombies live will add the corpse age? 13:29 lol 13:30 Loggers_VIII, you sure it wasn't a mummy instead? 13:30 Yes, one of my friends told me that he never get foodpois when eating elf zombies in real games. 13:30 Or did it do the wafer-thin mint deal even then? 13:30 I doubt that so tried many times in evilhack and seems it's true :P 13:30 I’m somewhat certain but I’d have to dig up the dump to find out (local game) 13:30 in wizard mode :( 13:31 tainted corpse you’ll never choke on 13:31 afaik 13:31 can i pretend the orld corpse is like a piece of pizza that's been on the counter for 2 weeks? looks good, but you just arent sure 13:31 *old 13:31 xdminsy: technically true, because they just give you zombie crud instead 13:31 should I nuke it? or eat it as-is? 13:31 mmm pizza 13:31 zombie corpses are like moldy bread 13:31 just zap a wand of fire that'll burn away the worst of it 13:31 heh 13:32 anyway Loggers I feel a tiny bit like that's something that happened in Grunt rather than Evil 13:32 I have that eat every corpses habit as convict too. 13:32 not snark, I actually do mean "a tiny bit" 13:32 because that's a thing you can run into in the former 13:32 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:50828 13:32 hm maybe 13:33 MIGHT be possible in evil but wondering what there'd have to have been an oversight on for that 13:33 [AU] Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5234 13:33 as-is, k2. cold, old pizza is the way 13:33 more likely it was a mummy or something I think 13:33 that's my conjecture but can never be too sure 13:34 [AU] Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed mindcool's ghost, the former Pillager, on T:5332 13:34 cold food is twice as good as it was hot, well-known fact 13:34 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:34 actually now I think of it, how are Grunt mummy corpses handled 13:34 pin that for later 13:35 tinklebear knows 13:36 knows the way of the pizza 13:36 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:50899 13:36 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #tnnt 13:38 has anyone playing evilhack rolled up a tortle samurai and named their fruit 'pizza'? 13:38 do some teenage mutant ninja turtle cosplay 13:38 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 13:38 lol. I'm going to bed on that note 13:38 :) 13:38 good night, all 13:38 gnite tinklebear 13:38 :D 13:38 -!- tinklebear has left #tnnt 13:38 good night. 13:38 adios o/ 13:39 In 3.7 those air elementals won't be scared to bugle or tooled horn? 13:39 yeah :( 13:40 [EU] [A]: elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 2053350 points, 50935 turns, ascended 13:40 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/tnnt/dumplog/1700338248.tnnt.html 13:40 Grats elenmirie. 13:41 congrats 13:41 thanks! 13:42 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:27548 13:42 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27551 13:42 geeg 13:43 [US] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered Horse One, her faithful pony, on T:9110 13:43 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:15450 13:45 -!- klepto has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:49 @Loggers_VIII maybe you thought you ate a giant zombie corpse but it was a giant mummy instead? 13:50 we speculated as much 13:50 because that has happened to me 13:50 That's all three erinys done in btw 13:50 oh sorry 13:50 \o/ 13:50 nah you're good 13:54 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:21114 13:55 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:21115 14:00 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 14:00 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:16191 14:03 one-hitting rock trolls with MM rebounds 14:04 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:21126 14:05 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:21128 14:13 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:16353 14:16 $time 14:16 K2: 2023-11-21 14:16:04 UTC. 2023 Tournament closes in 9d 09:43:55 14:16 noooo less than 10 days 14:21 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:22 its been november for a long time 14:22 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:58764 14:23 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful killer bee, on T:12793 14:26 -!- Nesta has joined #tnnt 14:29 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 14:33 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:33 -!- NetSysFire has joined #tnnt 14:33 -!- Grassy has joined #tnnt 14:33 -!- mobileuser has quit [Client Quit] 14:34 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 179 points, 340 turns, killed by a bear trap 14:36 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 14:36 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:37 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:38 [US] [D]: jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 219 points, 929 turns, killed by a large mimic 14:38 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Mog, on T:14873 14:38 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:14891 14:39 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 14:40 [US] Bartlem (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:7 14:40 [US] Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3476 14:45 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 424 points, 957 turns, killed by a death ray 14:46 Not often I basically have a full ascension kit coming out of minetown lol 14:48 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 14:49 ab 14:53 ab 14:53 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:47619 14:54 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:14223 14:54 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:47626 14:55 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:47629 14:55 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 467 points, 876 turns, killed by a dwarf, while fainted from lack of food 14:57 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:59 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 14:59 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a potion of water on an altar, on T:3516 15:00 [US] [D]: jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1436 points, 2672 turns, killed by a soldier ant 15:00 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:2552 15:02 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:02 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 15:02 [US] Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:6154 15:03 aw 15:04 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:04 Wow that breaks atheism? 15:05 Yes 15:05 Anything to do with the gods does 15:05 Well, i need my prayers to stay alive 😅 So atheism isnt my thing atm 15:06 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:46929 15:07 [US] [D]: Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 13230 points, 8950 turns, poisoned by a vampire bat (and one other game not reported) 15:07 oh ffs 15:08 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:46995 15:08 [US] Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:9 15:08 $lastgame Loggers 15:10 hah, potion of unholy and holy water in a chest 15:10 $lastgame loggers 15:10 Loggers_VIII: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/tnnt/dumplog/1700522211.tnnt.html 15:10 [US] Bartlem (Ran Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 50 darts on an altar, on T:4054 15:11 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:11 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:3528 15:11 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 15:12 [EU] AlbertB (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:67723 15:14 [US] [D]: jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 728 points, 1954 turns, killed by a giant mimic 15:14 [US] Bartlem (Ran Elf Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:4507 15:14 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:49823 15:17 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 5013 points, 4757 turns, killed by a plains centaur 15:17 [EU] [D]: abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 173 points, 931 turns, killed by a water moccasin 15:20 [US] Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2416 15:24 wewp 15:25 Source? 15:25 currently fighting off approximately 10 million killer bees, if I get instakilled again I will combust 15:25 izchak magic lamp 15:26 "the shrieker shrieks in pain!" never seen that 15:27 I'm bored maybe I'll kill the watch 15:27 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:27 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 15:28 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed jackofclubs' ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:3574 15:28 [US] [D]: jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1036 points, 2539 turns, killed by a dwarf 15:29 [US] sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed martinp's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:1695 15:29 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:4837 15:30 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) has entered the Arena, on T:55352 15:31 [US] moop (Arc Dwa Mal Law) removed klepto's blessed +4 silver dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:4129 15:31 [US] moop (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4138 15:32 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed cathartes the Chevalier in a deathmatch, on T:55384 15:33 Pets in TNNT/3.6 still are confused about how walls work, or rooms. 15:35 [US] moop (Arc Dwa Mal Law) received Excalibur, on T:4341 15:35 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "+3 Blessed fixed boots of speed", on T:3677 15:36 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1557 points, 2159 turns, killed by a wand 15:38 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:44224 15:38 pet behavior has not been changed, docpi 15:39 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) removed Ardub's 10 uncursed lumps of royal jelly from the swap chest, on T:38812 15:39 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:39 nethack pathfinding has always been bad 15:40 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 247 points, 297 turns, killed by an electric shock 15:40 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "+3 Blessed helm of brilliance", on T:3685 15:41 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed amulet of life saving", on T:3689 15:41 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #tnnt 15:43 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:55750 15:45 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:47355 15:45 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:46 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:16943 15:47 [US] maneatingcow (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:17091 15:49 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:47600 15:51 [EU] Arasaka (Rog Orc Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3072 15:51 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:23659 15:53 [US] moop (Arc Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6206 15:53 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:47877 15:53 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:25037 15:54 [EU] AlbertB (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered Guts II, her faithful purple worm, on T:69307 15:56 -!- BestGorilla has joined #tnnt 15:56 We will certainly be able to release the next version before long. 15:56 -- this line cracks me up 15:56 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:56573 15:57 someday, 3.7 will be released, and people will not be happy at the changes 15:58 Looking for some advice. I am at Xp:8, AC-11. I have been to minetown, and down to level 7 of the main dungeon. I STILL haven't found MR, so I am scared to go deeper into the mines, and I don't think I should go past level 7. Also don't have reflection. I DO have an altar in the main dungeon.... Unsure of how to proceed. 15:58 But, it FEELS like just hang around at the top until something drops MR.... 15:59 [US] jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4194 15:59 [US] jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha) found kitten, on T:4267 16:00 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:60744 16:00 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5971 points, 6106 turns, killed by an invisible quasit, while praying 16:00 paralyzed, 3 hit 16:00 w00t. 16:00 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:60745 16:01 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:44500 16:01 World's latest wand of polymorph 16:03 BG sorry you didn't find one of my many, many dead wizards! 16:04 heheh 16:04 If you have controlled polyself, storm the castle as a gray dragon. 16:05 if you can curse a ?oGeno, make dragons for scales. Those are some sideways methods of getting MR (or reflection) 16:05 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:26996 16:05 Yeah, I'm not really there yet. 16:06 I haven't id'd genocide. 16:06 Or rings. 16:06 smoky potions? 16:07 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 16:07 BestGorilla: what role? 16:07 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10637 16:07 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:08 I am rogue. 16:08 and what armour do you have? 16:08 I may have some of those.... 16:08 Dwarvish cloak, EMC, GoP, Leather helm, Iron Shoes, Blue and Green Shield. 16:09 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:54811 16:09 what's emc? 16:09 Elven Mithril Coat. 16:09 Sorry 16:09 [EU] [D]: wvc (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1376 points, 2514 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while dragging an iron ball 16:09 [US] spleen (Rog Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11425 16:09 ah. ok the cloak is easily reaplaced but the mithril is harder 16:10 I mean mithril is probably the best a rogue can ask for until DSM 16:10 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) removed DekaFumoPuzzle's blessed +1 green dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:10781 16:10 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 16:10 so i normally keep going wearing armour i don't care about or can replace easily 16:10 Yeah... I just don't know what to DO until I get resistance. 16:10 seems like... the correct answer is just hanging around on the altar level until I find it. 16:11 But.. curious of the opinion of others. 16:11 You can play around the presence of polytraps if you're careful, most you have to worry about is chameleons et. al. but then those are already threats 16:11 [US] [D]: Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4628 points, 5752 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 16:11 if you can switch out to some junk chain mail or something, just keep going 16:11 if you can reach the swap chest your mr might be in there 16:11 I don't think I can... At this level, I think I need to be above -4. . 16:12 Thats a journey filled with poly traps. :-) 16:12 they are rarer than you think 16:12 also you have searching don't you? 16:13 Yes, rogues start with searching 16:13 I'd give it the old 10s, especially near doorways 16:13 It's not that reliable. 16:13 actually they don't, they get it at xl10. just looked it up 16:13 [US] [D]: jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 5278 points, 5645 turns, killed by a dwarf 16:13 I'm thinking of stealth, yeah 16:13 [EU] [D]: abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1030 points, 2169 turns, killed by jackofclubs' ghost 16:14 And it's not that reliable, but it's something 16:14 In fact, I got polyd a few games ago. move search move search move search... still got poly'd 16:14 bestgorilla: if my hero is otherwise buff, but lacking mr, sometimes i will explore lower mines, doing 's' 's' 's' before every step. it helps to bring pets. you're a rogue, so that helps. and don't wear irreplaceable armor. you might want to buff up at your altar before you try that. 16:14 not a game where you let the perfect become the enemy of good so to speak 16:14 also your pet might step on the trap for you 16:15 Roger that.. Ill see if i can get to soko, step search step search... and perhaps spend sometime at the altar. 16:15 anyway i would not worry about ac so much, switch to some junk body armour, and go for the swap chest 16:15 also i see a magic lamp in your inventory. you might want to bless that and wish up GDSM or SDSM. 16:15 Thanks much, folks. 16:15 and i don't obsess with the searching thing 16:16 My goodness... thats right. I can dip and pray and use the lamp. if push comes to shove. 16:16 Appreciate the guidance. 16:16 off I go for a bit. 16:16 -!- BestGorilla has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:20 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 8666 points, 7933 turns, killed by a dwarf king 16:20 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:21 -!- phinxy has joined #tnnt 16:22 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) genocided disenchanter, on T:49257 16:25 [EU] AlbertB (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:70458 16:25 -!- Waffa has joined #tnnt 16:26 Oh dear, I appear to have gotten shafted into Orcus 16:27 No, just a big maze 16:31 -!- klepto has joined #tnnt 16:32 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:55333 16:32 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:55338 16:34 LUCKSTONE ALERT! 16:34 * docpi stumped 16:35 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:50761 16:36 That's odd, a gnome standing outside one of the secret doors of the Mimic of the Mines, and carrying a luckstone. 16:37 He's the concierge. 16:37 Ah, Bleeko, I see. 16:38 Your dungeons are classier than our DIY stuff 16:38 Ah, here we go now. 16:38 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1026 points, 1663 turns, killed by a gnome lord 16:38 This time for real. 16:38 * docpi ahems 16:38 Ahem. 16:38 LUCKSTONE ALERT! 16:38 [US] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13030 16:38 [US] [A]: tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 2895342 points, 44841 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tjw/tnnt/dumplog/1700348937.tnnt.html 16:39 * docpi smiles proudly 16:39 gg tjw 16:39 thanks! 16:40 [US] Bartlem (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:12 16:41 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) removed spazm's uncursed amulet of magical breathing from the swap chest, on T:5598 16:41 Well played tjw 16:42 grats tjw 16:42 [EU] elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu) destroyed wvc's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3419 16:42 WTG tjw!!! 16:42 thanks Furey 16:42 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:50985 16:42 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:50986 16:42 hope those +7 knives do some damage in the arena 16:43 Picked up some +6 gauntlets of Dex on astral 16:43 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5673 16:44 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1517 points, 3614 turns, killed by a killer bee 16:47 Okay, gentletournamenters, I have finally reached Mine's End for the first time this tournament, for the first time ever in TNNT, and for the first time ever in 3.6. 16:48 Where is my precious cornuthaum in the swap chest? 16:48 [EU] elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a silver saber named Werebane on an altar, on T:4291 16:50 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:61688 16:53 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:56130 16:54 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:54 -!- anselmus has joined #tnnt 16:56 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:24678 16:58 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 17:00 -!- HalNovek has joined #tnnt 17:02 -!- karafruit has joined #tnnt 17:02 docpi: best I can do is a -2 dunce cap, sorry 17:03 Okay, karafruit, I shall politely decline, and pass on that. Thank you for the kind offer, though. 17:03 will the dunce cap be overpowered in 3.7? (except for spellcasters) 17:04 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 17:05 My cave dwarf had a cornuthaum but was out of swap chest donations sadly 17:06 what if I named it Flayerbane? 17:06 my Valkwitch has a cornuthaum but I am also out of donations 17:06 [US] moop (Arc Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:9711 17:06 (and I want to ascend wearing it anyway, for the bit) 17:06 lol 17:07 well, docpi just needs to defeat you in the arena then! 17:08 Excellent idea, karafruit, I will bring a spare potion of oil to the fight! 17:08 * docpi smiles deviously 17:09 * karafruit doesn't get it 17:10 -!- HalNovek has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:11 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2345 17:13 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) has entered the Arena, on T:38305 17:13 -!- a1 has joined #tnnt 17:13 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1630 points, 3366 turns, killed by a giant mimic 17:14 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2830 17:15 What power does a dunce cap have? protection from flayers? 17:15 [US] moop (Arc Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:10040 17:16 Nesta: Autocurses, and fixes your intelligence to a low level. 17:16 dunce cap sets Int to a low value, I wanna say 5 give or take? 17:16 Maybe 6 17:17 but yeah you can't "lose" any more int technically with that so it's possible to save the stat that way, I don't think it blocks the other effects 17:17 [EU] AlbertB (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:72631 17:17 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed efot the Warrior in a deathmatch, on T:38337 17:17 Aynone interested in a unicorn horn or a luckstone from the swap chest? I am going to put one of your choice in. 17:18 I don't think you can put a luckstone in\ 17:18 Oh? 17:18 Then a unicorn horn shall be it. 17:18 * docpi still tries to see what happens with a luckstone 17:18 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 4461 points, 5765 turns, killed by a water moccasin 17:18 You can donate up to three things ftr 17:18 Whoah. 17:19 "The mysterious sapient pearwood container spits out your stone called luckstone disdainfully." 17:19 Okay, the unicorn horn it shall be then. 17:19 try tipping it next ;P 17:19 * docpi proceeds. 17:19 That's funny! 17:23 I haven't tried teleporting it, hrm. I assume it won't work, but I'm curious what the message would be. 17:24 What do you want to eat? [filo or ?*] 17:24 mmm, pastry 17:25 eating a stack, eh? 17:26 [EU] Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:38158 17:26 -!- HalNovek has joined #tnnt 17:26 [EU] NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:8299 17:27 -!- Waffa has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:27 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:60183 17:28 woah, starting with a magic maker AND a scroll of charging? ok, what horrible death awaits me? 17:28 +5 small shield 17:28 Wow 17:28 you know what, just for that I'll go for blessed geno of M next run 17:28 just to see what nuttiness Orcus Town offers 17:29 how will getting rid of Mummies help orcus town? :P 17:29 karafruit: last time i tested, the hero CAN teleport the swap chest. but i haven't thought of an exploit for that. 17:29 ooh interesting 17:29 I guess could theoretically put it closer to the upstair, but that's about the best you could do probably 17:30 [US] rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a garter snake corpse, on T:3394 17:30 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 5899 points, 8792 turns, killed by an owlbear 17:30 owbear 17:30 lol 17:30 [US] rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed for the first time, on T:3421 17:30 Owiebear 17:30 [EU] [D]: wvc (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 2803 points, 3482 turns, killed by a death ray 17:30 hey deka, haven't seen you die with my bones yet, run still going? 17:30 ooh gnome with the wand of death? 17:31 $lastgame wvc 17:31 NetSysFire: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/w/wvc/tnnt/dumplog/1700583369.tnnt.html 17:31 yes 17:31 actually a gnome. a gnomish wizard 17:31 my former clan (Gnome with the Wand of Death) would be proud! 17:31 Yeah i basically have a full ascension kit and i’m just leaving minetown lol 17:31 nice! 17:32 Just gotta go through the motions and not yasd myself 17:32 well if you do yasd make sure to do it on a bones-able floor ;P 17:33 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 87 points, 993 turns, killed by a fox 17:33 speaking of bones, I hope someone gets my run with the two -3 rings of protection 17:33 Xp 17:33 Lmao what were those for 17:33 +30ac? 17:33 just found 'em and figured maybe I'd be able to eventually get the 30ac, yeah 17:33 one was uncursed lol 17:34 I put it on and was like "oh, I better take this off" 17:34 the other one was cursed and I didn't know the charge until I died 17:36 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 272 points, 751 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted guard 17:37 Ooh, I didn’t realize the orcrown orc had guaranteed improved drops 17:37 That explains a lot 17:37 * karafruit has never seen an orctown and is slightly sad about it 17:37 [EU] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed wvc's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:1004 17:37 -!- Furey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:38 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:38672 17:40 This is the first time i’ve gotten it on a class actually capable of combat so it didn’t wreck my run 17:41 I'm surprised I didn't get it any of the times I was attempting protection racket 17:41 RNG usually has such a cruel sense of humor 17:41 2 more silver scales and comr for swap 17:42 Almost all my ascensions this tourney have been Orc Town 17:42 2/3? 17:42 The last time i went for prot racket i got orctown and they instantly killed my cat and then I died trying to leave the mines 17:42 did you end up getting any use out of the +4 stiletto deka? I found it useful for wearing down nymphs before they got next to me 17:42 (it was originally +5 I think based on the sell price but I'm p sure I threw it at a disenchanter once) 17:43 -!- floating_eye has quit [Quit: floating_eye] 17:43 -!- floating_eye has joined #tnnt 17:45 Yeah it’s +4 in the bones file. I haven’t needed to use it though since +6 Excalibur + GoP just sorta kills everything 17:45 ah yeah, that'd do it 17:45 yeah I knew it was +4 in the bones, just trying to justify to myself that I wasn't crazy for thinking it was originally +5 lol 17:45 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 494 points, 1513 turns, killed by a hobgoblin 17:45 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 17:45 god dammit i had spellbook of id but they had a wand of lightning 17:46 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:24332 17:46 "you identify the wand as a wand of ligthing... right before it kills you" 17:47 can we get a h*ll yeah in the chat? been hoping for that double damage boy since character creation (thats why i picked lawful) 17:47 Greyswandir is always a welcome sight 17:47 *hands you a mind flayer, a gem, and two leprechauns* 17:47 objectively the best weapon in the game 17:48 congrats tho! 17:48 hell yeah! 17:48 just gottta not die now 17:48 Aside from the rubber chicken, of course xp 17:48 doesn't help that my red dragon ate a chameleon and is now an iguana 17:48 I do not trust myself with rubber chickens 17:49 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:60796 17:49 I’ll wish for one on astral if I’ve got spare wow charges sometimes since there aren’t any traps there 17:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 17:50 And if I’m really underpowered it’s helped clear the castle before 17:50 oh yeah rubber chicken is great for anything not resistant to stoning 17:50 ...either most of my food is cursed, or I'm having terrible luck, because I just ate three rotten things in a row :( 17:50 (as in not riders) 17:50 did you happen to pick it up from a dead body? 17:51 fake bones on traps sometimes have food 17:51 I forget that those count as bones sometimes 17:51 I have two food rations I think are cursed for that reason (well, and because they aren't stacking with my other food rations) but these were a pancake, an apple, and an orange 17:51 and I'm p sure at least two were death drops 17:51 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) averted death (poisoned by Pestilence), on T:60838 17:51 off things I killed 17:51 technically not bones 17:51 just flavor 17:52 apple was on the floor not on a trap iirc 17:52 pancake I think was a death drop, orange might have also been on the floor 17:52 Just very unlucky i guess 17:52 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Pestilence (5 times), on T:60887 17:53 yeah. well, not like they were a lot of nutrition to begin with *shrug* 17:53 [EU] [D]: lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3233 points, 2908 turns, killed by a dwarf king 17:55 Bad luck 17:55 + fake bones rations, yes 17:55 I don't remember them being on a fake bones pile but I'm not sure they're othrewise generated cursed? so don't know why I'd have two stacks that don't merge 17:57 anyway lost both my pets because green dragon decided to gas a black dragon and it nailed them both in retaliation 17:57 while I wasn't anywhere near 17:59 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9013 18:00 Current Day as of 2023-11-21 18:00 UTC: Games: 180, Asc: 7, Scum: 38. 977319 turns, 27125594 points. 14d 02:04 gametime. (23%Wiz), (58%Hum), (39%Neu), (55%Mal), 9d 05:59 remaining. 18:00 [EU] finitelycraig (Pri Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:49669 18:01 [US] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed ring of slow disgestion", on T:432 18:01 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:01 [US] maneatingcow (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:19657 18:01 Blacl dragons seem like pet-deleters 18:03 [US] gruefood (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4419 18:03 Oh hey, another human valk 18:03 Took out an arch-lich and master lich in quick succession 18:04 who needs genocide 18:04 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur, on T:25135 18:04 Congratulations, Umbire. 18:04 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 18:04 Doublekill 18:04 [US] spleen (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15756 18:04 that's for drain resistance. gonna need it for something im planning 18:05 [US] Bartlem (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 18:06 [EU] [D]: abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 156 points, 601 turns, killed by a falling rock 18:06 [US] [D]: Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law), 440 points, 905 turns, killed by a jackal 18:09 [US] [D]: klepto (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3300 points, 3690 turns, killed by a white unicorn 18:10 I think my ascension this month was the first where I didn't genocide L 18:10 turns out they aren't so bad. 18:11 (this statement does not apply when finding a Arch Lich in bones in the Gnomish Mines) 18:11 [US] moop (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "2 holy charging", on T:13158 18:12 L are slow. if you can manage the cursing and have mr then they are not hard 18:12 mmf are worse 18:13 [US] moop (Arc Dwa Mal Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:13205 18:14 [US] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) removed crunchbubba's uncursed +0 cornuthaum from the swap chest, on T:13580 18:14 yay docpi! :D 18:15 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:25927 18:15 YAAAY! 18:15 woo! 18:15 Now to get rid of the loadstone that I accidentally picked up in Mine's End. 18:16 -!- HalNovek has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:19 rip 18:19 I did that recently. I kicked it a few times without hurting my foot so I assumed incorrectly it was the luckstone. :( 18:20 -!- klepto has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:20 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 18:20 Even worse, karafruit: I had already identified a loadstone on level 1 on the floor, so I knew that there was a loadstone on the tile. I wanted to pick up some red glass, and typed the wrong letter in the list 18:21 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:21 oh no, that really sucks :( 18:21 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #tnnt 18:22 Minor oopsie while breaching a Fake Wizard Tower, only lost a couple scrolls 18:22 didn't consider a hellhound would be right there, 's why I like my water walkers 18:23 rude, I was diluting potions and this water demon showed up :( 18:23 and get this, he didn't even thank me for freeing him! 18:23 rude, i was chilling in my fountain when this character with a -2 dunce cap shows up and starts roto-rooting my home 18:24 LOL 18:24 lol I don't actually have a -2 dunce cap, was just trolling docpi. But point taken :P 18:24 from their POV we are the invaders :) 18:24 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 18:24 I had a whole 15% chance of him giving a wish! but nooOooOoo he had to attack me and I had to kill him 18:24 [US] [D]: Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 9086 points, 6151 turns, killed by Ms. Adjama; the shopkeeper 18:24 they are all perfectly happy to exist within their Dungeons of Doom 18:25 just want that 1 piece of bling and we're out tho 18:25 rip 18:25 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed partly eaten cockatrice corpse", on T:27239 18:26 hm hm hmm, gonna have 8 potions of holy water soon~ 18:27 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 18:27 poly traps start showing up at 8, right? 18:28 Yeah 18:28 Cant appear on 1-7 18:28 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:27270 18:28 good good, I can venture a little deeper in the mines then. and find a trapdoor and then a poly trap, no doubt. 18:29 [US] [A]: allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 4868591 points, 60951 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/allanb/tnnt/dumplog/1700434019.tnnt.html 18:29 Congrats allanb 18:29 aw rip, that 300 potion was paralysis and not gain ability :( 18:30 [US] [D]: spleen (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 20855 points, 17260 turns, killed by a giant zombie 18:30 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed efot's ghost, the former Embalmer, on T:5682 18:30 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Mog, on T:21869 18:30 gg allanb 18:32 lol thank you, newt-that-was-formerly-gnome, for id'ing potion of polymorph for me! 18:32 [US] Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:1343 18:32 I think that polytraps might be able to appear earlier on the oracle level? not sure 18:35 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:37459 18:35 awhoops 18:35 selecting ~ for Orb just picks up worms 18:35 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37461 18:35 yep gotta do ^ 18:36 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:46625 18:36 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:16714 18:36 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:46627 18:37 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 2174 points, 3114 turns, killed by a rabid rat 18:37 [US] [A]: eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1806444 points, 27289 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eitwinston/tnnt/dumplog/1700235619.tnnt.html 18:37 shafted away from my pet again but my sense that I was on the sanctum entrance floor was at least right 18:37 gg 18:37 [US] [Q]: Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1013 points, 2085 turns, quit 18:37 so just have to write charging rq, use one on Orb 18:39 there we go 18:44 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2405 points, 4101 turns, killed by a manes, while fainted from lack of food 18:45 [EU] [D]: Noisytoot (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1227 points, 2684 turns, killed by a rothe 18:48 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 70 points, 311 turns, killed by a water demon 18:48 [US] rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5042 18:48 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:27800 18:49 [US] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:23801 18:49 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:50 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:27847 18:50 [US] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) removed Bean's uncursed +0 cloak of magic resistance from the swap chest, on T:23808 18:54 [US] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) averted death (killed by a zruty), on T:24183 18:55 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:57 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 29125 points, 14409 turns, killed by a sergeant 18:57 * karafruit salutes the corpse of docpi 18:57 Good game. I forgot to pray, play my magic harp, or jump away. 18:57 But whoever finds my bones is going to have a lot of fun. 18:58 $lastgame docpi 18:58 docpi: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/docpi/tnnt/dumplog/1700552957.tnnt.html 18:58 lol and I find the paper golem *after* I blank a few scrolls 18:58 [EU] AlbertB (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:76751 18:59 [EU] AlbertB (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:76752 19:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-21 19:00 UTC: Games: 12, Asc: 1, Scum: 0. 82600 turns, 1876295 points. (42%Wiz), 9d 04:59 remaining. 19:02 docpi why were you not wearing your cloak? 19:03 malor: I was wearing a robe for spells 19:03 as a wizard? 19:03 My strategy was to put my opponents to slepp, and then hit them with force bolt. 19:03 Yes, mithril coat. 19:03 0% with robe, 43% without. 19:04 * karafruit has a stack of 12 +6 daggers now 19:04 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:20986 19:04 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) removed Grouchy's uncursed +0 shield of reflection from the swap chest, on T:6598 19:04 malor: I was slowed down by that loadstine I clumsily picked up in Mine's End. 19:04 Decap a master lich, decap an Olog-hai back to back 19:04 *loadstone 19:04 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:20987 19:04 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:20988 19:05 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:20988 19:05 to *sleep 19:05 malor, would it have made any difference? 19:05 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "+3 blessed greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:6604 19:06 oh you were wearing dwarvish mitral. Because death rays/other things that kill you are so bad I would never take of the cloak of magic resistance until they wrested it from my cold dead hands 🙂 Also you were Burdended. NEVER BE BURDENED EVER. Repeat that. That's literally the most important rule of the whole game if you want to not die randomly. I'm not joking. 19:06 NEVER BE BURDENED EVER. "What about...?" - no. never. "What about...?" - no. never. 19:07 What if your BoH gets cursed? 19:07 there is one exception and that is when you pick up a corpse to carry it 5 paces or fewer to the altar. That's the only exception, period. No other exceptions, period. Full stop. 19:07 I know, malor, I have been playing since Autumn of 1992. 19:07 then set it down immediately Noisy 🙂 19:08 [US] introsp3ctive (Pri Elf Fem Cha) murdered Rowdy Beagle, her faithful little dog, on T:1532 19:08 can't bless it while it's on the floor (although you can uncurse it with cancellation) 19:08 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful long worm, on T:26013 19:08 wonder if I just ascend this while burdened for the meme 19:08 On a Mini PDP-11 with, I think, VMS back then. 19:09 do it, Umbire 19:09 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:27246 19:09 I mean I've done that for at least half my ascs by default 19:09 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:21329 19:09 ooh, smoky potion :D 19:09 at the moment though I'm just mapping my way through the bottom of Gehennom 19:10 i think burdening is more deadly than docpi thinks but less deadly than malor thinks 19:10 pls don't be invisibility, smoky potion 19:10 oh wait I already know invis 19:10 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:26354 19:10 yeah I agree with Furey 19:10 Furey, more burdening than I _hope_. 19:11 Sorry 19:11 Furey, more deadly than I _hope_. 19:11 the fact that every rule can be broken and ascending is still possible doesn't cancel the rule. It just indicates that nethack if pretty hard but not impossible 🙂 19:11 my last ascension, i didn't get any bag at all until perseus sack, so i carried my shit in a large box all the way to medusa. 19:11 I saw that, Furey. 19:11 alright, let's go smoky 19:12 ooh, gain energy. no wish, but still decent. 19:12 the fact that every rule can be broken and ascending is still possible ... means that adding "NEVER NEVER" to your rules makes them less persuasive, not more. 19:12 ^^^ 19:12 once you handle whatever effect caused it to be cursed you can pick it up without being attacked way-too-fast-due-to-being-burdened. So setting it down and then handling the issue and then figuring out how to uncurse it is always the best system. 19:12 It is a bit like that rapper with the alarm clocks hung from necklaces. 19:12 if it is only "uncursed" that's different as using the bag is still an option at that point. 19:13 karafruit: at least when you drink 10 blessed gain energy you feel better even without a wish 19:13 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) has entered the Arena, on T:21690 19:13 idk I mean those acid potions were p delicious 19:13 nope. The rule is still NEVER. Breaking the rule doesn't mean you auto-die, but the rule is the rule if you want the best chance to NOT DIE. 19:13 doesn't that just run right into what Furey said with more words 19:14 your rule is still never. 19:14 but ye more energy is still p nice 19:14 YANI: quaffing acid as a (baby) yellow dragon restores energy 19:14 except you broke it yourself with an exception in the first 30 seconds. 19:15 burdened = 3/4 speed and -1 to-hit. The speed penalty is the more dangerous part. 19:15 never be burdened. There is literally no instance where being burdened is better. Period. Sometimes the game makes you burdened by a lodestone accidentially handed to you (dnh) or your bag getting uncursed or worse-cursed. But then one of your biggest problems is being NOT burdened in addition to whatever else is happening. 19:15 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7292 19:16 "never be burned. never never never. never never. Oh, unless it's one of these specific cases that break the never that I'm stressing so much annoyingly." 19:16 speed is king in turn based games. And in life mostly honestly 🙂 Being fast at the skills you have makes you way more marketable! Being fast in sports is literally God-mode if you have ever played with or against faster people or if you were the faster person same-thing-but-reversed 🙂 19:16 [US] maneatingcow (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:24620 19:17 the game forcing a bad thing on you is different than players chosing to take that condition. Burdened is a condition many players choose to take. They shouldn't. 19:17 buddy I've been burdened for more than half this video game and not even through conscious effort, not everyone is Hypothetical Optimal Man 19:17 If your unburdened speed is 12 (unhasted player), your burdened speed is 9. Other variants have slower races, so it's not that bad. 19:17 or even Trying Kind of Hard Man, his tenth cousin 9 times removed 19:17 dnh half-dragon is base speed 8 for example, that's worse 19:17 I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the sacrificing a corpse exception you made 30s after saynig never a billion timesn 19:18 also yeah getting lmao'd while at an altar is something I play around by luring the monster into place 19:18 sorry, 58 seconds 19:18 worst case my pet eats it and-- lmao you actually timed it? 19:18 it's not too hard to subtract two timestamps 19:18 especially when they're close to a minute apart 19:18 more about the fact you bothered in the first place 19:19 [US] [D]: eitwinston (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 400 points, 549 turns, killed by an iguana 19:19 I mean if I'm gonna be an insufferable prick I wanna at least be *right&* about it ;P 19:19 ooops didn't mean to summon taht demon 19:19 Al least if your fast+speed boots, then burdened is still better than normal 19:19 Not wise to be burdened either way, but it’s only harmful if you’re already in harms way 19:20 extrinsic speed (speed boots) doesn't stack with intrinsic speed 19:20 we know 19:20 it helps in, say, cases where you need to swap boots 19:21 Burdened is bad. Everyone knows it. Some people don't understand how bad. Your pointing out examples that are "worse than burdened" is neat and all, but it's bad. Full stop. It is a condition that you only get (normally) if YOU CHOOSE IT. Never choose it and your odds of enjoying a longer game are significantlly higher. Let's check DoktorL's ttls and see if he 19:21 like I'm literally about to do right now 19:21 is walking around burdened all the time while 14 streaking 🙂 I don't have to check because I know he isn't 🙂 19:21 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:18290 19:21 something something "burden of proof" joke 19:21 fast burdened (12) is the same as unencumbered. very fast burdened (15) is slightly slower than fast unencumbered (16). 19:22 Huh, i had no clue speed boods just gave very fast 19:22 I thought you needed both 19:22 in both of those cases non-burdened is better with litterally zero draw backs 🙂 So take that one 🙂 19:22 ok 19:22 in some variants speed boots and instrinsic "fast speed" are both required. In vanialla it isn't. 19:22 (continues playing fast and burdened) 19:22 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed docpi's ghost, the former Magician, on T:3043 19:22 Also yeah no, speed boots and the potion are the only sources of very fast in 3.6.7 19:23 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:30117 19:23 intrinsic speed is just fast 19:23 "but Umbire, what about haste self?" 19:23 Somebody dislike stashing too many times, and when there's no any bag, sometimes it's okay to be burdened. 19:23 you are correct but also 19:23 * Umbire bonks karafruit on principle 19:23 * karafruit deserved it 19:23 You know burdened is bad, but its bad cases depends. 19:24 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:27923 19:24 already did a spiel on "risks you're willing to accept" I feel like 19:24 so I'm gonna settle for (jokingly) harassing kara instead 19:24 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:24 * karafruit is just frustrated she can't find the stairs to level 3 19:24 If you are early game before castle with -20 AC and speed, being burdend is not much a trouble. 19:24 pffft, who needs AC -20? AC 1 is just fine ;) 19:24 I meant I thought they were both +1 and you needed them both to hit very fast. Actually helpful to learn you don’t 19:25 But if you are in the sanctum, then being burdened is more dangerous than in early game. 19:25 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 19:26 that's not wrong exactly but my last asc didn't quite bear that out 19:26 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:26 "not much trouble". In nethack there are lots of times I bet all of us can remember where we "just barely died". The "just barely died" turning into "didn't die" is a big change to game play. I'm done defending not being burdened as every person that said burdened was ok all used the "it's not that bad" 🙂 Bad is worse than not bad at all 🙂 19:26 If you are in the sanctum, you are also probably otherwise better prepared than in the early game 19:26 Whic one was it, Gandelf? 19:26 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 19:26 [EU] [D]: tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 4331 points, 3670 turns, killed by a soldier ant 19:26 sometimes you can't have "not bad at all" and need to accept and adapt around it 19:26 sometimes you know what the risk is, accept that and also adapt around it anyway 19:27 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5366 points, 3239 turns, killed by a jaguar 19:27 o.O seriously where is the downstair, I've used my stethoscope on every tile that looks like it could lead to a new room o.O 19:27 docpi - also I noticed in your game log you had ZERO daggers on hand (other than a cursed one). Throwing daggers is a great strategy for wizards as you can get to expert in dagger which is a pretty effective attack. 19:27 Aw...! 19:28 malor, it never occurred to me to make use of daggers as a wizard. Not in thirty ears. 19:28 but you can ALWAYS choose not to be burdened. It is always a choice to be burdened. You can choose it or not. 19:28 years 19:28 Maybe that is the reason why I never ascended. 19:28 karafruit, gimme about a second 19:28 That room on the left? 19:28 [EU] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:66651 19:29 [EU] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:66652 19:29 karafruit, under a statue 19:29 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 19:29 docpi I farlooked and the gnomish mines stair is the only down stair I've found 19:29 noisytoot I'd thought so but I stethoscoped every bit of it 19:29 Whether you are serious about that or not, it is a good strategy and your not using it will make wizard really really tough since until you have the "eye" you basically can't auto-spell in vanilla. 19:29 I'll go do it again tho 19:30 Indeed, Gandelf had found my bones. 19:30 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed charlie14690 the Collector in a deathmatch, on T:22158 19:30 And died soon after. 19:30 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:30171 19:30 It is as if my inventory was somehow... cursed. 19:30 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1176605611371274271/image.png?ex=656f7a5e&is=655d055e&hm=70d617416e9b7970b3f84245aad70365c27626054bd8ff04cdd49f16c9fac7e1& 19:30 burdened is not so bad but I hate seeing it on my statusline so I just drop or use shit when I get burdened 19:30 there are like a few general guesses I can hazard off the top 19:31 Oh, malor, let's continue this later. I gotta go now. 19:31 there's sometimes more room on the right side than might be expected 19:31 yeah the right side could be it, I think my terminal is like 84 wide? so 4 spaces beyond max, but that leaves a lil room 19:32 also malor fwiw, people can't see who you reply to with disc messages on IRC side 19:32 yep 19:32 thanks :D 19:32 loggers, yeah I know the communication is random :). I'm fine with that 🙂 19:32 lol fair enough 19:32 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:28372 19:32 I believe it is time to win the game of nethack 19:33 good luck. 19:33 np kara 19:33 lol, conical hat. odds it's a -2 dunce cap? :D 19:34 xdminsy are you playing 19:34 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed scroll of charging", on T:28549 19:34 Sadly, I died my tourist and haven't play for these days. 19:35 rip 19:36 I have some rules like malor, like I never carry wand of cancellation, bag of tricks and second bag of holding. 19:36 the mines as ranger is so fun 19:36 everyone has their own rules, positing them as absolute is just lol 19:37 I carry wands of cancellation sometimes if I have an oilskin sack 19:37 And always wearing amulet of flying cuz I bother to switch levitation and sometimes like to use cockatrice corpses. 19:37 Loggers_VIII, even as human? 19:37 umbire yeah I like it 19:37 Is there any way to change the hue of the dark blue used for floating eyes and gnome lords? I can’t see it on a black background like at all 19:37 even when it's dark there's a decent amount of strategy 19:37 Yes it's just a habit that can help me play more mindlessly. 19:37 deka no :( 19:37 I personally never carry a potion of striking 19:37 I have those rules also, but better players than me can overcome those ones. Better players than me don't ever let themselves be Burdened. Which is why I do it! 19:37 too dangerous 19:37 Damn =( 19:37 I feel like there was but don't recall 19:37 deka, you can configure it in your terminal settings clientside 19:37 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:22808 19:37 also karafruit that shop looks okay hopefully 19:38 you can do that in xnethack but I don't think any other variant/version allows it 19:38 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:29276 19:38 yeah it's clientside I think 19:38 or whatever you're using, nethack just sends vague color terms I believe and the client shows the exact color 19:38 might get some boots but the body armor is meh Umbire 19:38 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:29277 19:38 how meh we talking 19:38 I like studded leather as a caster sometimes 19:38 depending on alternatives and AC 19:38 I'm monk 19:38 -!- Nesta has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:38 so -20 to-hit 19:39 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:29278 19:39 studded leather could be worth it maybe 19:39 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:37198 19:39 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:28774 19:40 waterwalking boots presumably 19:40 ah then nah not even that tbh 19:40 re: monk 19:40 lol my cat just stole one anyway 19:41 I need to spend some time on my rc file and figure out how to get all the cool menu colors working 19:41 Copy someone else's rc file 19:41 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) removed ais523's amulet of reflection from the swap chest, on T:28908 19:41 alright, let's levelport back topside, kick around for telecontrol and then do some inventory management 19:42 [US] [D]: Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 2567 points, 1765 turns, killed by a gas cloud 19:42 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:29308 19:42 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:29309 19:42 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided class P, on T:29310 19:42 I'd just steal tonehack's rcfile tbh 19:42 Oh yeah, 3 wishes left 19:42 could probably just make one lol 19:42 buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut I'd rather kick sinks 19:42 wish for marker 19:42 3 markers 19:43 revgen tengus, get teleportitis and no telecontrol? 19:43 solid plan :D 19:43 wish for grayswandir. 19:43 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Master Kaen, on T:30770 19:43 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30771 19:43 grayswandir more like lameswandir 19:44 i see the old burdened topic is back 19:44 -!- Nesta has joined #tnnt 19:44 monthly. 19:44 i have ascended burdened a few times 19:44 I believe tone's is the RC file I started with a zillion years ago. 19:44 same 19:44 I think I ascended burdened once but I don't think I knew it 19:44 ugh, werejackal with wand of digging, blargh 19:45 I already have teleportitis 19:45 and yeah tone's rcfile is wonderful for either new players or new to menucolor players 19:45 I've died once wizard when burdened when I'm at astral. 19:45 I almost wanna revgeno wraiths instead for levels 19:45 either for me or worm 19:45 probably me 19:45 Well but that game I carry no wands. 19:45 ...ah. that's what got blanked. 19:45 I believe the original rc file was crafted in stone tablets by Abraham 19:45 ah well no worries 19:45 lol bouquet 19:46 can literally just recharge marker and write more 19:46 wish up one and write more 19:46 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 19:46 whatever strikes my fancy atm 19:46 Loggers_VIII: what do you mean you didn't know it? 19:46 like I didn't pay attention to the statusline 19:46 there's not much else that could mean 19:46 that story might be a hallucination though I'm not sure 19:46 ur a hallucination 19:46 * Umbire points a unihorn at 19:46 take ur meds 19:47 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:29366 19:47 honestly what strikes my fancy is a bit of water prayer 19:47 my personal rules include: primary boh is on one letter, secondary sack/oilskin-sack is on a second letter, any non-formal-id wands or non-formal-id bags go in secondary sack, secondary sack never goes in primary boh. so my inventory is nearly always clear of things that can blow up primary boh. 19:47 ideally with additional uncursing 19:47 grrrrr come back white unicorn, I have fluorite for you >:c 19:47 I don't get how people get the amulet and then manage to not immediately run up to the planes in excitement 19:48 [US] widmerpool (Ran Orc Fem Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:37533 19:48 as xdminsy said, point of my personal rules is to enable me to play with less brainpower per move, because i need tens of thousands of moves to win 19:48 I also play sort of to reduce brainpower used, but it's not through rules per se 19:49 Loggers because the mysterious force kills the excitement. 19:49 I'm very flexible throughout the game 19:49 I usually try to prep so I can do exactly that, though last asc was an exception 19:49 Loggers_VIII, I try to keep that same mentality 19:49 Loggers_VIII: in vanilla Rodney is so easy to kill it's worth dispatching him a few times for points 19:49 xdminsy that makes it even more exciting! since you won't be doing something so boring anymore :P 19:50 boooooo 19:50 got a spellbook instead 19:50 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:50 lern 2 reed 19:50 >fireball 19:50 what do I look like to you 19:50 not-a-valk? 19:50 ooh can I have it Umbire? 19:51 just go die on lvl 5 real quick pls 19:51 already donated twice, sorry 19:51 also anything that kills me at this stage probably wipes the floor with you as well 19:51 for sure 19:51 but it would be fun 19:51 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:23571 19:53 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:23724 19:53 huh, two coaligned altars on lvl2 19:54 Hah one new player in our chinese group ascended for his first time. 19:54 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 19:54 monkdoesn'tfindrobotfindskitten 19:54 xdminsy \o/ 19:54 what role 19:54 Not sure why but recently there're some new players playing nethack in china. 19:55 [EU] karafruit (Mon Hum Fem Law) found kitten, on T:6819 19:55 congrats to them 19:55 ........lol 19:55 Nah dwarven valkyrie, the most friendly. 19:55 still, it's exciting your first time 19:55 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Grand Master, on T:31720 19:55 went to go find robotfindskitten because my cat got lost there. immediately touch an object next to the portal--it's kitten 19:55 ooo this is livelogged 19:56 that was actually my gray dragon and a ring of conflict 19:56 Identify at 0% with my robe and HoB off 19:56 never killed a quest leader before, just want to see what happens 19:56 Yes it's more easy to learn and enjoy the game by starting with such roles. 19:56 I love this, I love being the world's most """suboptimal""" valk 19:56 (neutral human focusing somewhat on casting) 19:57 aparently nothing interesting 19:57 yeah, you had to be the one to kill them (or even just attack them) 19:57 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.5-dev] 19:57 though, did you open quest already? 19:57 uuuuuurg heck you werejackal 19:58 and evaporated my shield, thought I was confused 19:58 ah well, 's why I carry backups 19:58 make sure I'm confused this time, repair robe... 19:58 How many more turns must I suffer? potion of hallucination (smoky) 19:58 yes i did the quest first im not that dumb 19:59 ....................why is it that everything I throw my +6 daggers at has a wand of digging 19:59 it's like several hundred turns give or take/ 19:59 *? 19:59 martinp, get a unicorn horn 19:59 Hallucination potion is like 3-500 turns lol 19:59 yes a few hundred for blessed hallu 19:59 it's way too long 19:59 extremely annoying 19:59 [US] [D]: eitwinston (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 585 points, 924 turns, killed by a dwarf 19:59 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:3455 20:00 lessgoo 20:00 fucking love this thing 20:00 Gotta go get the medusa achievement now 20:00 hell no that's annoying 20:01 It wasn’t that bad 20:01 and I will never learn stone to flesh :P 20:01 er, not stone to flesh. undead turning 20:01 though with pyec plus wand I guess I could do it, huh? 20:01 only used vorpal blade once in recent memory, but it did not disappoint. 1 hitting orcus and a randomly generated titan at the castle 20:01 nevermind I will do it 20:01 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:01 I just engraved it down to -3 and wacked her with it until killed her 20:01 yikes, fell down the hole to a busy bones pile 20:02 alright, break 20:02 i think the healing spell would work well for that 20:02 clean up a bit, do something else 20:02 well vorpal will be my main weapon so not gonna disenchant it 20:02 later umbire o/ 20:02 [EU] karafruit (Mon Hum Fem Law) destroyed jmcunx's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:6965 20:02 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1556 points, 1534 turns, killed by a jaguar 20:02 still gonna be here, won't be AFK too long 20:05 while I'm on break, put together a rough idea of what I wanna do next 20:05 [US] [D]: OmegaDino (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 100392 points, 21828 turns, killed by an energy vortex 20:05 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:116271 20:05 [EU] tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:5528 20:05 [EU] karafruit (Mon Hum Fem Law) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:7036 20:06 more scrolls/potions is always a goal, kick sinks until I get telecontrol, 4 wishes banked if all else fails in either case, 1 goes towards another marker at minimum 20:06 I just found a telecontrol in a bones pile, sure you don't wanna swap me that fireball book? ;P 20:06 * Umbire threateningly rolls up newspaper 20:06 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 20:06 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:4689 20:06 Read what? > Umbire's newspaper 20:07 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 200 points, 270 turns, killed by a system shock 20:07 sure, here you go 20:07 * Umbire thwaps 20:07 [US] [D]: martinp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 616 points, 2143 turns, killed by a dwarf 20:07 oh Loggers_VIII, I've actually been maining Mjollnir for most of this run (after taking 30k+ turns to actually get it, was weird times) 20:07 but I wanna see about enchanting up Vorpal as part of the above 20:07 is the chinese player playing online or offline? 20:08 [EU] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased rustproof +1 helm of telepathy", on T:68448 20:09 it's my arch-lich swatter generally, though once I get tele control I probably have way less trouble with those in general 20:09 or until I bother actually leveling my worm, either or 20:10 My neutral human valk was 100% mjolnir for the whole run 20:10 [US] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:24947 20:10 vorpal is great! 20:10 It’s not a bad weapon all things considered 20:11 mjollnir is great too 20:11 it leans on high-rolls more than I'd like but yeah it's fine at worst 20:11 I think mjollnir is better than vorpy. 20:11 I developed a love for it in evilhack where it has a better base weapon, but it's about as good in vanilla considering evilhack's higher HP enemies 20:11 It's cool weapon. 20:11 vorpal + tsurugi of muramasa dual wield (in evilhack) is such a wonderful feeling. 20:12 Lol decaps for days 20:12 that duo is known as the 'Julia Childs' 20:12 ha! 20:12 :P 20:13 It was really funny on my gnome arc run swapping to my -3 vorpal to one shot J 20:13 oh K2, you're the shirt person right? Is there a size chart somewhere for the T-shirts? 20:13 the God of Shirts (third class) 20:14 lets see 20:14 large is bigger than medium, but smaller than extra large 20:14 I looked up the style of shirt and found a reference somewhere random online but wanted to double-check 20:14 gosh darnit nethack players are insufferable. 20:14 :P 20:14 one sec 20:14 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:35971 20:14 LOL 20:15 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:39782 20:15 when I asked earlier I was told they were one-size-fits-all unless you poly into a giant or something big... 20:15 not sure if people were trolling or thought I meant in-game 20:15 (or both) 20:16 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:6507 20:16 https://i.etsystatic.com/34237303/r/il/66258f/3668095388/il_794xN.3668095388_ad8o.jpg 20:16 they're gildan 5000 series cotton t's 20:16 unisex 20:16 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:17 thanks! 20:17 o/ 20:17 [US] [D]: spleen (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 318 points, 1115 turns, killed by a little dog 20:17 i'm not insufferable, just mildly entertaining 20:17 qt on the other hand, is a fuckin riot 20:18 a fucking riot is like a violent orgy 20:18 actually gonna scribble a bit, ping if needed 20:18 the long sleeves are series 5400 20:18 same dimensions tho 20:18 Umbire hi 20:18 just testing ping 20:19 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:59929 20:20 there are a few hardfought t's available too, those can be shipped out immediately 20:20 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9783 20:20 shipped a few yesterday in fact 20:21 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:50091 20:22 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 20:22 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) bribed Asmodeus with 56 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33195 20:23 I’ll probably put an order in for one afte work today 20:24 hm, looks like you don't have any of those bigger than 2x, and I doubt I'd fit. Don't need to burst out of my shirt *without* being polymorphed :) 20:24 but ordered the TNNT one! 20:25 [US] [D]: OmegaDino (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1432 points, 2572 turns, killed by a killer bee 20:27 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 cloak of protection", on T:37929 20:28 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:37932 20:28 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:37934 20:29 yeah the hdf shirts, i've been holding onto the extras for about 16 yrs. limited supply/sizes 20:29 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 449 points, 752 turns, killed by a rabid rat 20:30 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:104965 20:31 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:104967 20:32 [EU] [D]: lrrr (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 3352 points, 3579 turns, killed by an ettin zombie, while praying 20:33 karafruit I see your order. nice note hah 20:33 thanks :) 20:34 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:11942 20:34 qt we should have made that a legit payment option - 3 scrolls of missing code 20:34 [US] [D]: jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 370 points, 1286 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 20:36 -!- martinp has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:38 [US] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 water walking boots", on T:27092 20:40 [US] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:13756 20:41 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "3 gain level", on T:50722 20:41 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "3 gain level", on T:50723 20:41 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:42 -!- Arseniy has joined #tnnt 20:42 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:25084 20:42 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25089 20:43 [US] [D]: jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 363 points, 1343 turns, killed by a wererat 20:45 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 20:45 that's the devteam's business 20:45 we aren't obligated to accept their missing code for them 20:46 if they want to offer shirts in exchange for missing code they can buy the shirts from us first 20:46 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed eitwinston's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:1712 20:46 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "2 gain level", on T:51102 20:46 I'd say we can offer them a special discount but since we're selling them at cost we basically can't 20:47 hahah 20:47 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:25789 20:50 -!- stagnate has joined #tnnt 20:52 [EU] elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:7219 20:53 * spontiff buys a shirt. 20:53 nice, spontiff 20:53 It was 3 scrolls for the shirt, and 3.14 more for delivery :\ 20:54 the option you selected includes all the import duties and VAT, at least 20:54 a lot of people with international orders seem to be selecting the option that doesn't include those fees. so their orders are going to be held up at customs until they pay them I think... 20:54 Yes, well I could see that the cheapest one was going to be false economy 20:55 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) became Mog's Envoy of Balance, on T:31720 20:55 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:51207 20:55 [US] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed jackofclubs' ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:2936 20:55 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:51210 20:56 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 20:56 -!- a1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:56 I'm glad the UI was clear enough that you could understand it, because the frequency at which people are choosing the "does not include import duties, tariffs, or taxes" option made me think they might not understand that it's not just cheaper for no reason 20:56 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:51224 20:56 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:105217 20:57 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 32 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:38895 20:57 * spontiff doesn't do the basic 'am I going to break paci by doing the invocation' check, but gets away with it... 20:58 -!- a1 has joined #tnnt 20:58 I thinik maybe closer to the time we're going to ship the orders, we may want to email those people to tell them "just to be clear, with that option it's going to cost you additional money [potentially more money than if you pay in advance] and time, because the package will be held at customs until you pay those fees" 20:58 [US] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:3005 20:58 and maybe offer them the option to pay the difference to change to a DDP shipping option 20:59 nice, spontiff 20:59 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2563 20:59 if you had bought a hdf shirt at the same time the shipping to shirt cost ratio would have gone down ;) 21:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-21 21:00 UTC: Games: 10, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 0d 07:51 gametime. (30%Pri), 9d 02:59 remaining. 21:00 But you can't pay for those with missing code :\ 21:01 [US] Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:14918 21:01 that's true 21:02 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:02 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 21:02 oi 21:02 Furey, Loggers_VIII and uhhhhhhhh 21:02 [US] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3263 21:02 * Umbire picks a name from a hat 21:02 karafruit? 21:02 hi 21:02 about to pull the trigger on splitting the wiki's dwarf article 21:03 oh thank god 21:03 pitch in if you feel like 21:03 what does 'splitting the dwarf article' mean? 21:03 that article has been quietly nagging at me for years 21:03 [US] Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed spleen's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:3377 21:04 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:32667 21:04 [US] jientho (Hea Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Gandelf's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:19128 21:04 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3457 21:04 I'm about to leave to do some Stuff but I'll look at it later 21:04 no worries, whenever you can 21:05 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:11976 21:07 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:105579 21:07 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:105581 21:07 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a rabid rat), on T:4101 21:08 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "holy greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:12287 21:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:08 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 4032 points, 4149 turns, killed by a soldier ant 21:08 * karafruit discovers that her conical hat is a cornuthaum 21:08 where's docpi? 21:10 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:38940 21:10 [US] [D]: allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 44 points, 309 turns, killed by a sewer rat 21:12 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:51579 21:12 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:51580 21:13 [US] maneatingcow (Val Hum Fem Law) found kitten, on T:25576 21:14 [US] [D]: Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 6313 points, 3988 turns, killed by an owlbear 21:16 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:25948 21:17 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 43 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:39094 21:17 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:106980 21:17 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Chromatic Dragon, on T:29719 21:17 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class N, on T:106982 21:18 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29740 21:19 [EU] [D]: lrrr (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 535 points, 4923 turns, killed by a gnome lord 21:19 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:51915 21:20 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:41946 21:24 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 86 points, 548 turns, killed by a small mimic 21:25 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:14560 21:26 [US] [D]: schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 653 points, 2734 turns, killed by a soldier ant, while frozen by a potion 21:29 holy crap the EU swap chest is LOADED with good stuff 21:29 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:30 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 21:30 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 239 points, 1162 turns, killed by a gecko, while fainted from lack of food 21:30 [US] rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed jackofclubs' ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:10459 21:30 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:32 -!- stagnate has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:32 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Nalzok, on T:34518 21:32 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34519 21:34 [EU] karafruit (Mon Hum Fem Law) removed bleeko's blessed rustproof +5 helm of brilliance from the swap chest, on T:9168 21:34 thanks bleeko!!!!!! 21:35 * karafruit put in a cornuthaum just for docpi 21:35 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:15831 21:35 bleeko was trying to send that buffed HoB to me, but it got lost in the mail! 21:35 ahhh 21:36 * karafruit embraces profitting off your loss 21:36 saw a +4 elven cloak of yours in there, Furey 21:37 surprised no one took that cloak yet 21:37 three +1 SDSMs, two rings of increase damage, drum of earthquake... I started this game on the EU server because the US swapchest has been crap 21:37 (comparatively, anyway) 21:37 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 3106 points, 5585 turns, killed by a fire ant 21:37 -!- klepto has joined #tnnt 21:38 * karafruit really needs a bag though 21:38 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:13645 21:38 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #tnnt 21:39 I’ve been trying the help the US swap chest. I put 6 DSMs in yesterday 21:39 [US] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:1391 21:42 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:26784 21:43 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:53709 21:44 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2291 21:44 -!- stagnate has joined #tnnt 21:45 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16829 21:46 [US] [D]: jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 663 points, 2019 turns, killed by a hill orc 21:46 Rodney appeared 3 times between levels 8 and 3 on the asc run... how?  Is the turncount not limited by some minimum? 21:46 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:53818 21:47 I hate having to break weaponless just to use the staff to bring Rodney back to where the Archon will attack him 21:47 [AU] Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:8689 21:48 spontiff: how about chase-rodney-up-dlvl-1-stairs? i'm not good at pacifist, but maybe that would be suitable 21:49 I don't think Rodney can escape, as there's a chance he has invocation items in his inv? 21:49 Maybe only when he has those, but I'm not sure 21:49 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:27906 21:49 i dunno about the first time when he has the book, but after that, he's chase-able 21:49 Yeah, he shouldn't be able to escape if he has one of those in inventory 21:50 -!- nurdglaw has joined #tnnt 21:51 European swap chest is stacked! 21:51 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed potions of paralysis", on T:53834 21:51 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:53835 21:52 Hmm... where's my plane of earth minotaur? 21:53 Arseniy: it's mostly been you stacking it I think? 21:53 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:53 my last game I still put a couple of useful items in there, but I was struggling a bit and didn't have the resources to spare for anything spectacular 21:53 [US] [D]: a1 (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 5169 points, 7766 turns, killed by a bolt of fire, while sleeping off a magical draught 21:54 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 800 points, 2570 turns, killed by a gnome lord 21:54 ooh, I'm up to 17 donations now, will have to check the IRC logs to see which ones got accepted 21:55 [US] [D]: stagnate (Sam Hum Mal Law), 12482 points, 12493 turns, killed by a mumak 21:55 for the love of all that is holy 21:55 [US] [D]: allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1955 points, 4491 turns, killed by a gnome king 21:55 fancy seeing you here Stagnate 21:56 wave 21:56 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 774 points, 1837 turns, killed by an iguana 21:57 oh wow, I just realised – in 3.6 the Sokoban prize is later in the game than the point where you actually need it, so it's mostly useless, so people frequently put it into the swap chest – *but* the swap chest is early enough that it might matter 21:57 Nice restart too.  "Daisy falls into a pit!  Daisy is killed!  " 21:57 and so it's helping to smooth out that 3.6 balance issue a bit 21:58 I partially want to try petless but am too lazy to find the setting 21:58 That's pretty lazy 21:58 i know where it is 21:59 in my defense, i'm also down with covid 21:59 damn, get well soon 21:59 thx hothraxxa, I think I can find it when my motivation is sufficient! 21:59 that sucks. i had covid once. no stars, would not have again 21:59 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(50%Neu), 9d 01:59 remaining. 22:00 it's a bit less sucky this second time around. i'm also on paxlovid this time which is helping. 22:00 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:32382 22:00 a1: pettype:none 22:01 :) thx! 22:01 i knew that 22:01 i even know where you put it 22:01 I often play like that even in vanilla 22:02 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:05 [US] [D]: gruefood (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4568 points, 5723 turns, killed by a dog, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:05 -!- stagnate has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:05 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:05 [US] stagnate (Sam Hum Mal Law) found kitten, on T:1144 22:06 -!- stagnate has joined #tnnt 22:06 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 134 points, 468 turns, killed by a dagger 22:07 [US] jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed schoen's ghost, the former Pillager, on T:3183 22:07 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4363 22:07 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 22:10 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52961 22:10 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:52973 22:11 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:11 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:52981 22:13 [US] klepto (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 darts on an altar, on T:3360 22:14 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 22:15 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 23 points, 246 turns, killed by a goblin 22:15 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39538 22:15 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:39539 22:16 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:30420 22:16 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:53081 22:16 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:53083 22:17 go go rebatela! 22:17 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:12780 22:18 [US] [D]: stagnate (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1380 points, 2201 turns, killed by a water moccasin 22:18 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 22:19 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 waterwalking boots", on T:30626 22:21 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:35047 22:21 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:22130 22:22 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Gandelf's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:12802 22:22 [EU] karafruit (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9810 22:24 Thank you, karafruit, but it usually takes me about ten hours to get to Mine's End, and I have not starte my next game yet. 22:24 I mean, tbf, probably no one else is going to take it :P 22:25 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 uncursed scrolls of genocide", on T:30633 22:25 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:25 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:30634 22:25 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:30635 22:25 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:30638 22:25 ais523: I saw lots of dragon scale mails of various colours and that's without any of my own items I don't see 22:26 karafruit: i'm looking in us swap chest right now, no cornuthaum. so somebody took it or the server migrated it to eu or au. 22:27 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:30640 22:27 Furey: I dumped it in EU, so it probably stayed there :c 22:28 I decided to play a game on the eu server to see if the swap chest was better. it was. 22:28 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 303 points, 893 turns, killed by a hobbit 22:28 man, i forgot about mysterious force. pita 22:29 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 21557 points, 13310 turns, killed by a yeti 22:29 and then possiby a DSM of my own on top of that, and those increase damage rings, and blessed enchant armour and enchant weapon scrolls, and... 22:30 wow, it's really become stacked since I last looked then 22:30 You may be right, karafruit. But I would still be a full day away 22:30 sounds like it's not in the US swap chest anyway. oh well. 22:31 [US] [D]: stagnate (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 288 points, 1255 turns, killed by a giant mimic 22:31 * docpi sighs, and starts a new game 22:32 [EU] karafruit (Mon Hum Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:10296 22:32 hmpf, there goes my 100% chance for artifact wishes :c 22:33 S'est YASD ever. Someone is going to get a great bones pile. 22:33 Are the builds between the three TNNT servers diferent? 22:33 EU looks different from US. Very different. 22:33 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:16739 22:34 have you copied the config 22:35 Arseniy, I have not. 22:36 Ah, better. 22:36 Thank you, Arseniy. 22:37 $lastgame Grouchy 22:37 [US] BEHiker91W (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "historic marker", on T:16938 22:38 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:37087 22:38 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:33546 22:38 [US] OmegaDino (Val Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "test", on T:7044 22:38 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33548 22:39 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 22:39 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1463 points, 3695 turns, killed by a gold golem 22:39 I had everything, so easy. Last Wizard. Even found someone else's bones on a level with a coaligned alter... and a chest. 22:39 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +5 cornuthaum", on T:62149 22:39 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) removed DoktorL's blessed scroll of enchant armor from the swap chest, on T:6327 22:39 [US] OmegaDino (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7093 22:39 [US] klepto (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5689 22:40 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:37198 22:40 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:37204 22:40 $lastgame Grouchy 22:40 Arseniy: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grouchy/tnnt/dumplog/1700576758.tnnt.html 22:41 Why were u naked 22:41 so i have about 15-20 pet wraiths in votd. i tamed them so i could push through them and kill everything else. how can i untame them? don't want to take 15-20 points of luck penalty for murdering them. 22:41 leave them offlevel for long enough 22:41 Abandon them 22:41 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:42 was in the process of testing all the new stuff I'd found... was about to test unidentified scrolls. 22:42 Make sure its not in a level with a graveyard 22:42 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:40485 22:42 Castle counts as a graveyard 22:42 [US] klepto (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) removed hothraxxa's uncursed +0 set of gray dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:5813 22:42 that time when the Yeti keeps hitting you... and hitting you and hitting you... 22:42 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:34572 22:42 so dumb 22:42 we discovered recently that at AC:10, monsters generally cannot miss you 22:42 I had never noticed that before 22:42 sigh 22:42 okay i'll abandon the pet wraiths in soko for a few thousand turns 22:43 at AC 0 many won't miss either 22:43 they are inediate so i dunno if it will work 22:43 but worth a try 22:43 At AC -17, they miss a lot. 22:43 Only if it really matters, if it doesn't matter they totally miss 22:43 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 22:44 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) has entered the Arena, on T:31075 22:44 inediate just means you can't raise tameness/apport 22:44 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 333 points, 953 turns, killed by a little dog 22:44 The wiki has an article on hit probability in relation to ac 22:44 it lowers like you'd expect 22:44 (can't raise it the usual ways, rather*) 22:44 Cant feed them basically 22:45 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed finitelycraig the Slayer in a deathmatch, on T:31108 22:46 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) murdered Frack, his faithful purple worm, on T:116302 22:47 dammit 22:47 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 196 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:37737 22:48 [US] schnaader (Val Hum Fem Law) found kitten, on T:1278 22:48 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:36564 22:49 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6700 22:50 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 13450 points, 11691 turns, killed by an ice vortex, while frozen by a monster's gaze (and 24 other games not reported) 22:50 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 170 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27772 22:51 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:27800 22:53 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 230 points, 652 turns, killed by a giant rat 22:53 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:35725 22:54 [US] [D]: gruefood (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2378 points, 1460 turns, poisoned by an orcish arrow 22:54 [US] klepto (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed gruefood's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:6557 22:54 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 108 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:28072 22:54 [US] oh6 (Bar Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3227 22:55 [US] schnaader (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:2273 22:55 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 133 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35864 22:55 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:28126 22:55 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:18654 22:55 [EU] Dictyostelium (Bar Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3198 22:56 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:57 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:28227 22:57 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:28229 22:59 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 2158 points, 3257 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 23:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-21 23:00 UTC: Games: 16, Asc: 0, Scum: 3. 0d 15:08 gametime. (46%Wiz), 9d 00:59 remaining. 23:00 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:39267 23:00 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:36218 23:00 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:36219 23:01 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 39 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:31766 23:01 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:28561 23:02 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7994 23:02 [US] Dhuend (Rog Hum Mal Cha) murdered Salaminho, his faithful dog, on T:2965 23:03 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:2227 23:04 [US] kewldewd (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:28778 23:08 [US] [D]: Dhuend (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 3463 points, 3404 turns, killed by a giant beetle 23:08 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:64417 23:09 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 66 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:116836 23:11 go crunchbubba go! 23:11 [US] [D]: schnaader (Val Hum Fem Law), 7330 points, 5450 turns, killed by a panther, while praying 23:12 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:12 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 23:15 [US] [D]: OmegaDino (Val Hum Fem Neu), 23272 points, 10066 turns, killed by a kobold mummy, while frozen by a monster's gaze 23:15 I respect sticking to it for 120000 turns 23:15 -!- martinp has joined #tnnt 23:16 [EU] karafruit (Mon Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13556 23:17 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2755 points, 2917 turns, killed by a gnome king 23:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:18 -!- kewldewd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:18 qt, Umbire, observe: First time in a shop, empty tile. 23:18 * docpi smells mimics.. 23:19 * docpi stays put for a while 23:19 docpi, what do mimics smell like? 23:19 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +3 gauntlets of power", on T:37313 23:20 karafruit, like the leather padding of gym apparatuses 23:21 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:35025 23:21 karafruit, like the leather padding of _old_ gym apparatuses 23:23 [US] klepto (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:9371 23:26 [US] jackbunny (Val Hum Fem Neu) became Odin's Envoy of Balance, on T:24165 23:26 * karafruit takes notes 23:27 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:37991 23:27 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:37998 23:28 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 268 points, 715 turns, killed by a hobbit 23:28 [US] a1 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4159 23:29 now I'll feel guilty when I die with my 9 AC 23:29 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) genocided class b, on T:117873 23:30 [US] klepto (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:9860 23:30 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "7 blessed candles", on T:38597 23:30 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 276 points, 548 turns, killed by a hobbit 23:30 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:38608 23:32 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:38738 23:32 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:38742 23:33 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) removed spazm's wand of death (0:4) from the swap chest, on T:19149 23:33 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:37166 23:37 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:39005 23:37 [US] [D]: efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 2998 points, 4528 turns, killed by a giant mimic 23:39 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8506 23:40 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:39444 23:42 [US] eitwinston (Ran Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3995 23:42 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:39940 23:43 [US] k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3739 23:44 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1377 points, 3751 turns, killed by a rabid rat 23:44 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 915 points, 1882 turns, killed by a gnome lord 23:46 [US] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:35603 23:46 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 178 points, 308 turns, killed by an arrow 23:47 [US] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:1042 23:47 [US] klepto (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11393 23:47 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:40624 23:49 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:119458 23:52 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:38960 23:54 [US] jackbunny (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:24256 23:54 [US] [D]: nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 6843 points, 1938 turns, killed by an ape 23:54 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:40989 23:55 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:44417 23:55 [EU] askhl (Rog Orc Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3572 23:56 [US] Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:14527 23:56 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:41052 23:57 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:41117 23:57 [US] klepto (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:11920 23:58 [US] [A]: stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1831832 points, 41130 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stoicjin/tnnt/dumplog/1700528117.tnnt.html 23:59 -!- Arseniy has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:59 grats stoicjin