00:00 DAILY STATS AT 2023-11-20 00:00 UTC: Games: 442, Asc: 13, Scum: 112. 1635042 turns, 30171896 points. 16d 22:52 gametime. (28%Wiz), (53%Hum), (42%Neu), (54%Fem), 10d 23:59 remaining. 00:00 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:00 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 00:00 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:34485 00:01 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 50 points, 409 turns, killed by a guard (and one other game not reported) 00:01 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class m, on T:36159 00:01 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class c, on T:36160 00:01 [US] [D]: jackbunny (Val Dwa Fem Law), 77101 points, 24055 turns, killed by a rope golem, while fainted from lack of food 00:02 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:20863 00:04 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:16967 00:06 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:14366 00:06 [US] [D]: haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2760 points, 4543 turns, killed by a hill orc 00:06 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:22008 00:08 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 460 points, 1183 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 00:09 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:25196 00:10 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19113 00:12 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:41804 00:14 [US] [D]: jackbunny (Val Hum Fem Neu), 501 points, 2190 turns, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:14 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:35893 00:14 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:35894 00:14 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) removed charlie14690's uncursed ring of levitation from the swap chest, on T:4947 00:14 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3043 00:14 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:35894 00:15 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:36198 00:15 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:19685 00:16 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed allanb's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:19795 00:16 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:17500 00:17 Team Ant has been bust here// 00:17 busy 00:18 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3253 points, 3157 turns, killed by a hill orc 00:18 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:96801 00:18 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:96807 00:18 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:19947 00:19 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 699 points, 2851 turns, killed by an orc zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:21 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:17829 00:21 Raisse had Stormbringer and grey dragon scale mail 00:21 Oof 00:22 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:17854 00:22 begone lich 00:23 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased spellbook of identify", on T:41845 00:23 Stormbringer must have come from bones or something because I've only played lawful priestesses 00:23 can't remember that game 00:24 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:25440 00:24 ah, that was from allanb 00:24 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:30229 00:25 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 187 points, 1074 turns, killed by a water moccasin 00:27 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12800 00:27 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of cancellation", on T:36045 00:27 Snakes! I hate snakes! 00:28 * karafruit hopes someone gets joy out of her swap chest contributions 00:28 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:37052 00:29 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:41860 00:30 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class c, on T:41861 00:33 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:23304 00:33 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23306 00:33 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:6110 00:34 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:41882 00:38 [US] jackbunny (Val Hum Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:3271 00:38 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 shield of reflection", on T:15178 00:39 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:1019 00:39 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a bat, on T:21560 00:40 -!- Noims has joined #tnnt 00:41 * Andrio screeches. 00:42 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:42 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) removed kcostell's uncursed ring of protection from shape changers from the swap chest, on T:18714 00:42 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 00:42 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:25840 00:42 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:15693 00:43 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 00:43 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1022 00:44 [US] Cuchullain (Bar Hum Mal Cha) found kitten, on T:1346 00:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:45 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:1034 00:46 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:1036 00:47 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "+3 ring of protection", on T:42355 00:47 [US] jmcunx (Ran Gno Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3795 00:49 [US] [D]: spleen (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 633 points, 2297 turns, caught himself in his own magical blast 00:50 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:99581 00:51 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) found kitten, on T:7146 00:51 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:99588 00:53 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:53 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:99633 00:54 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:99703 00:56 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 00:56 [US] [D]: SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 22533 points, 13732 turns, killed by a mumak 00:56 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:37838 00:56 -!- oh7 has joined #tnnt 00:57 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1838 points, 4697 turns, killed by a wolf 00:58 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:99780 00:59 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:59 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 01:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-20 01:00 UTC: Games: 11, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 0d 12:38 gametime. (45%Hum), 10d 22:59 remaining. 01:00 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:36517 01:00 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:99846 01:01 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful yellow dragon, on T:99866 01:01 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Mon Hum Mal Law), 1550 points, 1941 turns, killed by a soldier ant 01:02 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Death, on T:99918 01:03 Go Team a - 13 soldier ant corpses 01:04 [US] [A]: bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 3548639 points, 99939 turns, ascended (and one other game not reported) https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/tnnt/dumplog/1700024079.tnnt.html 01:04 Congrats bouquet~ 01:04 thanks! 01:05 that took a lot longer than I'd hoped thanks for a friendly mindflayer sucking out my brains 01:06 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed Orb of Fate", on T:25095 01:06 'friendly' 01:06 Still sub-100k though 01:06 well, we were kind of dating, but she was a Patriots fan and I'm a Seahawks fan so it didn't work out 01:07 -!- charlie14690 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:07 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:36782 01:07 would have been more like 50-60k but ?oID was rare and I had to re-ID everything. 01:09 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "fireproof marker", on T:24497 01:09 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:36890 01:10 [EU] askhl (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:18627 01:10 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 2300 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:38979 01:11 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:25111 01:12 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:25117 01:12 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "the blessed +3 grayswandir", on T:3730 01:13 [EU] [D]: askhl (Sam Hum Fem Law), 190498 points, 18779 turns, killed by a death ray 01:13 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed spellbook of magic missile", on T:25144 01:13 OMG T-SHIRTS!! 01:14 I'll input my credit card into any old website for a TNNT t-shirt! 01:15 real really cool tshirt, hope it's lucky 01:16 -!- kewldewd has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:16 -!- oh7 has joined #tnnt 01:16 heh 01:16 only 5 left in stock. I should have bought 2 01:17 a few hardfought tshirts have sold also 01:17 had those made about 15-16 yrs ago 01:17 it's got a qr code on it that's good for a blessed boh when you start your game, if your shirt is in view of your camera 01:17 lol 01:18 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:31010 01:18 There's not enough Nethack merchandise out there. We need to flood the market with (, [, !, and )'s 01:18 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:18 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 01:18 -!- cathartes has joined #tnnt 01:19 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:25583 01:19 Can anyone provide hints on the swap chest location in Mimic of the Mines? 01:19 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 600 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:39490 01:19 didn't someone go as a nethack character for halloween once? Was wielding a giant parenthesis and had a giant square bracket for a costume? 01:19 @Widmerpool-my-cat should be in the left side of the bottom-right area 01:20 -!- klepto has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:20 Oh! That’s where I found the luckstone! Over there? 01:20 -!- klepto has joined #tnnt 01:21 it's not necessarily in the same place as the luckstone (since luckstone has like 7 possible locations?). But yeah, it should be near the bottom-right luckstone location. 01:21 there's a little cave above the luckstone location, swap chest should be there. 01:22 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:37256 01:22 i have a pet rock named lucky 01:22 Okay, I just put [SDS [GDS and [brilliance into the swap chest. Enjoy. 01:22 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:22986 01:23 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) removed spazm's uncursed +0 pair of speed boots from the swap chest, on T:31165 01:25 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:37496 01:25 [US] widmerpool (Ran Orc Fem Cha) removed BEHiker91W's uncursed +0 set of gray dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:35012 01:26 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5057 01:32 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) removed karafruit's uncursed spellbook of detect monsters from the swap chest, on T:25989 01:33 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:33313 01:34 bouquet I see your order 01:34 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1166 points, 2957 turns, killed by a dwarf 01:34 nice throwaway email :P 01:37 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 8 points, 112 turns, killed by an electric shock 01:39 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:39 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 165 points, 128 turns, killed by a gnome 01:40 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 76 points, 141 turns, killed by a sewer rat 01:40 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:38214 01:41 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:27140 01:41 for when the vendor gets h@x0rd and I start getting phishing emails to that address I'll know who to point the finger at. 01:43 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed cockatrice corpse named Stoning as a Service", on T:23509 01:44 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:23533 01:48 My trusty steed died.. The vampire bites Caroline. Caroline suddenly seems weaker! The giant zombie hits Caroline. Caroline is killed! 01:48 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:23790 01:48 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7022 01:49 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Demogorgon, on T:38458 01:49 [US] [D]: haldisse (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1389 points, 6425 turns, killed by a dwarf mummy 01:49 -!- a-1 has joined #tnnt 01:50 bouquet: re: "There's not enough Nethack merchandise out there." 01:50 yeah that's why I have been pushing K2 to make TNNT shirts for years, is because I'm still smarting over not buying one of the devnull shirts 01:50 there really haven't been any other cool Nethack shirts available since then (until now!) 01:50 I never got one either 01:51 I always thought nethack was a labor of love and here it is a capitalized venture 01:51 i wasnt playing nethack online though then those devnull shirts were available, i didnt know 01:51 and i was in iraq that year 01:51 (just joking of course! <3 devteam) 01:51 hah 01:51 -!- a1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:52 only markup on the shirts is to cover fees for the shipping service we're using 01:52 they kept selling them for a few years after that K2, I don't think I even knew about NetHack in 2008 but I remember seeing them in 2009-2010 when I played devnull for the first time 01:52 which was like an extra dollar per shirt 01:52 https://www.amazon.com/NetHack-Roguelike-Ironic-Gaming-T-Shirt/dp/B07HLRYN1B apparently this is an alternative option for those of you who don't like the TNNT shirt 01:53 already ordered one :) 01:53 I think our shirt is a lot better 01:53 way better 01:53 more betterly 01:53 a-1: to be fair K2 isn't making any money on these unless he showed me a doctored invoice from the screen printing shop :-) 01:53 I have a "Thninking of Maud you forget everything else" from Think Geek circa 2000 01:54 Nesta nice 01:54 cool Nesta 01:54 do you have a picture of it? 01:54 it's in my hoard somewhere 01:54 what does it look like? 01:54 @ 01:54 ^ that 01:54 does it just have that text on it? or anything else? 01:55 lol. I don't mind at all even if there was a profit motive. 01:55 White fleece jersey black on white, in a partially forgotten maze level 01:55 Also have "you are full of bombs and/or keys" which I wore to death 01:55 i liked the shirt. keeping it all one font was a good choice 01:55 making money on anything nethack just feels wrong 01:55 after 9/11 a shirt that said "you are full of bombs" couldn't be worn in some places 01:56 a-1: you mean the TNNT shirt? or the shirt Nesta is talking about? 01:56 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 01:56 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 184 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27147 01:56 I did a tnnt mockup for aosdict a few years ago and he didn't like it :( 01:56 Yes, the TNNT shirt 01:56 The Amazon shirt was the one I looked at that didn't have this and made me realize why I didn't like it 01:57 I ordered a shirt because I thought the limited quantity might be real 01:57 i cant wait for these to be ready 01:57 Nesta: the quantity listed on the site is real 01:57 Nesta (all) if we run out, i can always order more with the same template 01:57 but not really 01:57 I can't wait for you to personally deliver it! 01:57 also, the TNNT listing had too many good jokes to not buy 01:57 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:44916 01:57 bouquet lol 01:57 because there's a minimum order size, so unless there's high demand after we run out it won't make much sense to do it imo 01:57 tnnt-o-gram 01:58 but it's possible theoretically 01:58 (no pants) 01:58 cuz nethack 01:58 why not petite women sizes? All I saw was M, L, XXL 01:58 bouquet: there are smalls 01:58 yup 01:58 not in all styles 01:58 for the record, I'm not a petite woman. 01:58 but some have smalls available 01:58 But I know one who would wear it 01:59 duly noted 01:59 oic, only in black 01:59 she can order one! there are still smalls available in black short-sleeves and navy long-sleeves (but only one left) 01:59 brb 02:00 we had to be judicious about what we did about sizing and when we made the poll asking for sizes/colors/styles people would want to order basically everyone said black short-sleeves M or L 02:00 just like in nethack, all armor fits every glyph 02:00 but we threw in some additional sizes and styles anyway (which is turns out was wise because there have been many more orders for them than we'd have expected based on that poll) 02:01 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:7524 02:02 a-1: I'm glad you liked the jokes, I thought I did a pretty good job on that description 02:02 my favorite one is the idea that it's "replica fantasy armor" 02:04 alright shirt ordered...looking forward to it 02:04 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:27359 02:04 that was an OHKO 02:05 (thus beating the traditional wand of digging method, which is a 2HKO) 02:05 ais523: will you order a TNNT shirt? they're very stylish 02:05 qt: no 02:06 btw, I am excited by that vanilla commit you made. but I think the pline "You learn more about your items by comparing them" is going to be kind of spammy. most variants with that feature just merge them silently and I don't see the problem with that. 02:06 ah you take a bold stance on the issues 02:06 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 414 points, 1085 turns, killed by an orc zombie 02:08 efot: ah you got the last large navy long-sleeved shirt? 02:09 oh that was the last one? in that case, yes 02:09 actually, I think it was the only one being made at all 02:09 very unique item 02:09 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:28069 02:09 wow, yay me 02:10 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 145 points, 446 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 02:10 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:26268 02:10 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:28070 02:10 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:28070 02:11 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 274 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27521 02:11 yeah it's going to be really fun when those are finished being screen printed 02:12 K2 and I are going to have a sleepover where we pack up all the orders and talk about boys and practice kissing 02:12 can't wait to see how they look irl 02:13 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:41954 02:13 yeah totally 02:13 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:26527 02:13 I think the nerdiest shirt I own right now is this one: https://foxapparels.com/product/math-problem-call-1-800-10x13i-2-sinxy-2x362x-shirt-black-b7/ 02:13 and this will be right up there with it 02:14 I don't normally wear many graphic T-shirts but I'll be happy to have this one 02:16 heck yeah, this is my first tournament to get a 1-game winning streak! 02:16 -!- oh7 has joined #tnnt 02:17 lol omg 02:17 will wear that shirt everywhere 02:17 why did you have to mention the kissing part 02:17 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 421 points, 2254 turns, killed by a sewer rat 02:17 efot that's an awesome shirt 02:17 thanks :) 02:18 I pity the fool who has that phone number though 02:18 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:18 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 02:18 this is one of the funnier shirts i own - https://www.amazon.com/The-Inkfidel-Boneyard-Zonk-Track/dp/B07RLNZP2V 02:18 ^ military humor 02:18 nice 02:19 and my mandatory fun shirt - https://www.amazon.com/The-Inkfidel-Boneyard-Mandatory-Shirt/dp/B07QR1GZ8V 02:20 ooohh the vault teleport took me somewhere that's not a vault...that must mean Ludios 02:20 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10164 02:20 Ludicrous 02:21 K2 that would go well with this shirt I have somewhere https://store.enemieslist.net/products/no-fun-not-ever-t-shirt-preorder?variant=994862557 02:21 hah 02:21 [US] stagnate (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:8429 02:23 -!- kewldewd has joined #tnnt 02:23 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:24868 02:24 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 186 points, 555 turns, killed by a small mimic (and one other game not reported) 02:24 I wonder what happened to that shirt, I haven't seen it in years 02:24 maybe I'll find it during my move 02:26 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:42667 02:26 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:42669 02:27 [US] [D]: Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 365 points, 1097 turns, killed by a gnome zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:28 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:28218 02:28 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:28221 02:30 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:9801 02:30 I've learned 31 spells this game 02:30 I still wish I knew more spells 02:31 it's fun to really have practically every spell in the game at your beck and call as a late-game wizard, even if you don't use most of them 02:31 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed tin of red dragon meat", on T:28289 02:31 no fire res yet ais523? 02:31 accidentally lost my extrinsic fire res in Gehennom to a typo 02:31 oh how? gremlin? 02:31 oh _ex_trinsic 02:31 casting stone to flesh at self 02:31 I misread 02:31 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:35158 02:32 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:35159 02:32 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) has entered the Arena, on T:24396 02:32 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:25798 02:32 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25800 02:32 and with no fire res, fire traps are incredibly dangerous 02:34 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:39306 02:34 [US] [D]: stagnate (Sam Hum Mal Law), 7602 points, 9377 turns, killed by a gnome king, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:34 Uppercase-letter species killed: [ABCDEFGH* KLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ] 02:34 and still no jabberwocks anywhere. 02:35 did you extinct all the summoners? 02:35 [US] [D]: haldisse (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1980 points, 5008 turns, killed by a chameleon imitating an owlbear 02:35 Nesta: I don't think so 02:35 -!- Noims has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:35 go wake up rodney, he'll summon some J's and other things 02:35 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:17955 02:36 efot I just ordered that math shirt (long sleeve) 02:36 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:28449 02:36 alright :) 02:37 Nesta: yep, going to do that later 02:37 the left part of the equation looks like it would be real but I don't know how you solve for y 02:37 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19308 02:38 oh i forgot, I have one of these as a hoodie - https://bearcountryusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/beer-scaled-1-e1691010835194.jpg 02:39 not the exact graphic but close 02:39 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:30267 02:39 damn, Asmodeus was being annoying 02:39 $lastgame jmcunx 02:39 Nesta: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jmcunx/tnnt/dumplog/1700445663.tnnt.html 02:39 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) genocided class c, on T:104390 02:40 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:39443 02:41 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "the blessed Orb of Fate", on T:33488 02:41 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:29232 02:41 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) cravenly fled from a1 the Champion in a deathmatch, on T:25031 02:42 wow...only 3 landmines in Ludios...never seen that few 02:42 lucky 02:42 achievement should be a snap 02:42 [US] Nesta (Ran Elf Fem Cha) destroyed jmcunx's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:9549 02:43 yep that's how I knew there were only 3...the third one gave me the achievement 02:43 -!- oh7 has joined #tnnt 02:44 -!- Waffa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:44 -!- oh6 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:44 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 02:44 -!- stagnate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:45 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:31172 02:45 ... but Orcus didn't put much of a fight 02:45 -!- Waffa has joined #tnnt 02:49 TNNT achievement unlocked: "LEARN THE ALPHABET". You kill the jabberwock! 02:49 yey 02:51 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12302 02:52 -!- Waffa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:52 A newt dropped Grimtooth... 02:53 These newts are really something. 02:53 nice nabru 02:53 Andrio: he must have eaten it. stupid newt 02:53 that wouldn't be possible in 343 02:53 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) has entered the Arena, on T:40093 02:53 the weight limit for them was 3 instead of 30 because when weights got 10xd it never got updated 02:53 until like 344 I think 02:54 [US] [D]: Zolar (Val Dwa Fem Law), 227099 points, 44002 turns, crushed to death by a collapsing drawbridge 02:55 -!- Waffa has joined #tnnt 02:55 in fact, im pretty sure if that had happened in 343, grimtooth would be unacquirable 02:55 $lastgame Zolar 02:55 nabru: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/Z/Zolar/tnnt/dumplog/1700229092.tnnt.html 02:55 because it would be thrown out after having been created 02:55 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Evilparsnips the Sorceress in a deathmatch, on T:40135 02:56 -!- Waffa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:58 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 16 points, 376 turns, killed by a jackal, while reading a book 02:59 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:32746 02:59 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-20 03:00 UTC: Games: 10, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 0d 16:08 gametime. (40%Tou), 10d 20:59 remaining. 03:01 -!- Waffa has joined #tnnt 03:02 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63112 03:03 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:63115 03:03 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 274 points, 703 turns, killed by a giant rat 03:05 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:29739 03:05 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:63155 03:06 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:29760 03:08 Gentletournamenters, the page listing achievements is difficult to find from the main welcome page for TNNT. 03:08 perm_invent bug in 3.6: if a towel dries out from wiping out an engraving, it still shows as moist in perm_invent 03:09 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:29811 03:10 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:29582 03:10 [US] jackbunny (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5448 03:10 ais523, I died from a faulty item attribute display in perm_invent yesterday. I uncursed an item, but it was still shown as cursed in perm_invent. So I tried something else, which killed me. It turns out that the curse was removed successfully, but was merely not reflected in perm_invent. 03:11 I had a realistic chance of surviving, had I known that the curse was removed successfully. 03:13 -!- blankman has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:13 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1226 points, 2290 turns, killed by an orc zombie 03:13 I am running away from the violet fungus carrying a bag named omelet needs wolfs garlic euc fungus 03:14 -!- blankman has joined #tnnt 03:15 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "holy fixed greased the platinum yendorian express card", on T:27147 03:15 lol gotta keep those violet F fresh 03:17 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:13547 03:18 i charmed the fungus, then parked it one level away 03:18 -!- charlie14690 has joined #tnnt 03:20 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 212 points, 489 turns, killed by kicking a wall 03:20 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed drum of earthquake", on T:46676 03:20 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:27371 03:21 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:46681 03:21 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:46682 03:21 wow, my first two death rays missed him :( 03:22 fell asleep at the keys 03:22 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:30032 03:22 [US] [D]: Nesta (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 10588 points, 11986 turns, killed by a troll 03:22 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:30032 03:22 wow, never earthquaked rodney, interesting 03:23 did he pop out of his tower? 03:23 yeah with the drum of earthquake you can skip going through the tower, it'll wake him up and he'll come to you 03:24 -!- arahael has joined #tnnt 03:24 better than when he used to spontaneously wake up when you entered the gehennom level his tower was on. That sucked 03:27 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:47065 03:28 particularly when the stairs to Vlad's tower were there as well. 03:28 [US] [D]: spleen (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 314 points, 1558 turns, killed by a giant bat 03:28 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 233 points, 436 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 03:30 Demo: that was fixed in 3.7 though right? 03:31 artifacts becoming impossible to acquire if they're generated as corpse drops but then fail the weight limit check 03:31 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:26407 03:31 I feel like it was 03:31 [US] haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3503 03:32 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 5762 points, 2092 turns, killed by a vampire lord 03:33 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:27026 03:33 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:27030 03:33 oh yeah it was 03:34 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:27076 03:36 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:47161 03:37 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:47164 03:37 I found a cozy little temple in the dungeon with 2 lockable closets to keep both my pets in while I sacrifice stuff <3 03:37 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:31048 03:37 [US] Evendur (Ran Orc Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:722 03:37 did pet hunger get fixed in 3.7? The old pet-eats-everything is frustrating when sacrificing 03:38 bouquet I think it's the same in 3.7 03:38 [US] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:3782 03:38 I will say, in variants that "fix" it by making pets eat only when hungry, it can be annoying too because now that they can get intrinsics from corpses, they won't actually eat the corpses unless they have gotten hungry 03:39 so it's a lot harder for them to get the intrinsics 03:39 yep...and I like pets for troll corpse cleanup 03:39 well in those variants, they see corpses that can give an intrinsic as a treat 03:39 there are tradeoffs either way 03:39 K2 but they still won't eat treats unless they're hungry 03:39 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:39 not if you toss it 03:39 unless you throw them 03:39 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:27221 03:39 yeah 03:39 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:27223 03:39 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 03:39 cant toss a dragon corpse tho hah 03:39 * martinp throws a dragon corpse 03:40 ...not very far 03:40 wait...y'all don't eat that kitten on the 1st turn? 03:40 rawr 03:40 * qt catches the dragon corpse. qt eats a dragon corpse. 03:40 * qt looks very firm. 03:40 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 16 points, 195 turns, killed by a jackal 03:42 -!- tinklebear has joined #tnnt 03:42 -!- oh7 has joined #tnnt 03:42 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11338 03:42 you can toss partly eaten dragon corpses, and they work just fine 03:43 "It reads: Help! I'm being held prisoner in a fortune cookie factory!" 03:43 a-1, a classic. 03:43 is that a Simpsons reference or did it come from somewhere else? 03:43 it made it laugh out loud 03:43 it sounds serious! 03:44 [US] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:5869 03:44 a-1, it is a common lore running gag. 03:44 next year the TNNT devteam area needs a fortune cookie factory room 03:44 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:44 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 03:44 a-1, with prisoners! 03:44 gotcha 03:44 maybe lemurs 03:45 rofl 03:45 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha) removed BEHiker91W's +0 helm of brilliance from the swap chest, on T:21387 03:45 that's a funny idea docpi :) 03:46 [US] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:6088 03:46 * karafruit grumbles about the mysterious force 03:47 good night everyone. good luck with all your games 03:48 and have a good monday tomorrow 03:48 cya 03:48 g'night 03:48 good night qt 03:48 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:30368 03:48 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:30369 03:48 Night qt 03:48 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Gandelf's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:777 03:49 Looks like he died recently - lamp was still burning. 03:49 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) removed BEHiker91W's uncursed +0 set of silver dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:11455 03:50 arahael, the Marie Celeste of nethack bones! 03:51 love to find some random +5 high boots lol 03:51 docpi: I'm not familiar with that expression! 03:51 i had to figure out how to turn off key repeat so if i fall asleep and faceroll sssssssss again i might not die 03:52 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:32037 03:53 The legend, not the actual fact: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Celeste#Myths_and_false_histories 03:53 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:32041 03:54 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 31 points, 962 turns, killed by a system shock (and 8 other games not reported) 03:54 arahael, hence my choice of spelling. 03:56 docpi: Nice. I'll have to read about it. 03:56 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 50 points, 147 turns, killed by a grid bug 03:56 [US] Scuzzery (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:649 03:58 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) removed anselmus' uncursed magic whistle from the swap chest, on T:29739 03:59 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:63646 03:59 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 176 points, 531 turns, killed by a large kobold 04:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-20 04:00 UTC: Games: 19, Asc: 0, Scum: 8. 21405 turns, 18930 points. (36%Wiz), 10d 19:59 remaining. 04:00 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:63660 04:00 [US] Evendur (Ran Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3897 04:00 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:30176 04:00 * Nesta owns up to all 8 startscums! 04:00 go charlie go! 04:01 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:29015 04:01 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:29015 04:02 Hmm. If I drop one uncursed water, and 4 cursed waters, on an altar, and then pray, do all those become holy? 04:02 (I've never had such an abundance of cursed water) 04:02 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:23292 04:02 yes 04:03 Nice. 04:03 Indeed they do! 04:03 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:31054 04:03 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:03 [US] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9111 04:04 [US] [D]: MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 9696 points, 9123 turns, killed by a pit viper 04:04 [US] a1 (Cav Dwa Fem Law) murdered Hachi, her faithful little dog, on T:1758 04:04 [US] [D]: bouquet (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3124 points, 2979 turns, killed by a giant ant 04:05 [US] [Q]: Evendur (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1080 points, 4416 turns, quit 04:06 [US] [D]: MoonPig (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 54 points, 238 turns, killed by a jackal 04:08 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:32372 04:10 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4156 points, 973 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 04:10 Friking stupid. 04:11 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed partially eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:29401 04:11 * docpi lends arahael a warm blanket 04:11 a-1, why would you kill your pet as lawful? 04:12 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:29410 04:13 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 4 points, 110 turns, killed by a water moccasin 04:13 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class x, on T:49477 04:14 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:29460 04:14 not intentional- i threw my akyls at a gas spore 04:14 my play tends towards sloppy :\ 04:15 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:32443 04:15 [US] [D]: MoonPig (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 858 points, 1413 turns, killed by a ghoul 04:16 grand tour time 04:17 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3000 04:18 Now I get it: The announcements also depend on special meaning for certain roles. 04:20 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed wand of create monster", on T:29526 04:21 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:32535 04:22 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed horn of plenty", on T:32551 04:23 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 490 points, 692 turns, killed by a magic missile 04:23 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:50259 04:23 he's kinda been leaving you alone, kf 04:23 yeah he really has, since I got out of gehennom 04:24 made it through several levels without anything, even a vaguely nervous 04:24 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:3903 04:25 See, karafruit, that is the very reason why I have been reluctant to kill the Wizard for the Amulet in the game on my iPad for years now. 04:25 [US] [A]: disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 1661116 points, 29579 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/disperse/tnnt/dumplog/1700342925.tnnt.html 04:25 gg 04:26 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:4120 04:26 [US] Scuzzery (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3013 04:26 grats disperse 04:26 Thanks! 04:27 disperse: did you get TL-TL? 04:27 grats @d_i_s_p_e_r_s_e 04:27 congrats on the first and most recent ascensions! 04:27 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:27 [EU] [A]: ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1972908 points, 32609 turns, ascended 04:27 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/ais523/tnnt/dumplog/1700421067.tnnt.html 04:27 was trying to get an achievement at the altar but it was too hard 04:28 Yeah, I was also trying to get a sacrifice gift at the altar but gaveup 04:28 I'm not convinced that wizard is a good role even late-game – it requires too much setup 04:28 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:34388 04:28 I did not get the too little too late 04:29 I think maybe reverse genociding something like rothes would be good 04:29 85 maxHP and 247 maxPW seems like it should be doable, and it was, but it was mostly Standard Astral Strategy and I really struggled with Death 04:29 [US] MoonPig (Tou Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a goblin corpse on an altar of The Lady, on T:3326 04:29 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:29811 04:29 My issue is I had stashed cleaver to wear life saving with a shield of reflection and a cockatrice corpse so killing things around the altar was difficult 04:30 who is immune to basically all of my high-damage attacks, I had to settle for magic missile and (after running out of Pw) what was effectively just an enchanted quarterstaff 04:31 -!- Waffa1 has joined #tnnt 04:31 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:31 [US] MoonPig (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3380 04:31 I expensive camera'd death 04:31 I think wizards really need to grind up to like level 30 in order to have their good lategame, whereas valks get theirs at 14 04:31 Not before he removed about 40 max hp though 04:31 I had a camera but didn't think of using it 04:31 even though I brought it for that purpose 04:31 -!- Waffa has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:31 -!- Waffa1 is now known as Waffa 04:31 magic missiles + quarterstaff hits were enough, though 04:31 [AU] ranchyang96 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:20945 04:31 That's how I got the trophy for ascending without killing the riders 04:32 if you think about it, 40 maxhp is only 10 b!oFH, and you can easily use that many on Astral 04:32 Why kill the ORacle, schoen? 04:32 i heart cameras 04:32 Actually, the trophy board says I didn't get it, so I guess they died to friendly fire or something 04:32 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:50454 04:34 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:5094 04:34 schoen's in my clan but I don't think he's on IRC 04:35 btw, we resurrected our high school linux club to participate in the tournament 04:36 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:29952 04:36 a-1, playing a nethack tournament without chatting on IRC? 04:36 i know rite 04:36 That is like a pasta dish without the grated cheese on top! 04:36 [US] k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4362 04:37 go team rat! 04:37 Feeling feverish much, K2? Intentional, even? 04:38 Which is not half bad. You can summon #monster help. 04:38 [US] MoonPig (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:4171 04:38 I once did, had several dozen pets in Minetown. Fun! 04:39 ais523: gg 04:39 it's all I can do to survive when I contract lycanthropy 04:39 thanks 04:40 it took me a lot of tries to learn 3.6 wizard 04:40 [US] cathartes (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6982 04:40 and in the end I made it into "valk lite with fireballs" 04:40 ais523, Wizard in 3.6 feels especially hopeless 04:40 No, frustrating. 04:40 also I had two early magic lamps, both granting wishes, which really helped (but by the point I could bless them I was starting to reach the difficulty spike anyway) 04:41 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1802 points, 4887 turns, killed by a jackal 04:41 now we have great wiz o/ 04:41 I think the problem is that the game is balanced around AC improvements being good 04:41 anselmus: really? I thought we were missing chaotic human 04:41 i thought it would be slightly easier, but my deaths are still always player error 04:41 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a cave spider, on T:5827 04:41 yep, still missing chaotic human 04:41 I did do one of the missing combinatinos intentionally though 04:41 k just one more 04:42 congrats ais523 04:42 thanks 04:42 I wonder if I can persuade the rest of the devteam to allow training a spellcasting skill to reduce the armor penalty for low-level spells 04:42 GG ais523 04:42 -!- Waffa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:43 I think that would help 04:43 actually, a serious part of NetHack's balance atm seems to be skill slot versus XL pace – you want to ensure that your skills level up faster than the monsters do, i.e. faster than your XL does 04:44 ais523 you mean making it easier for spells like force bolt to land at hit if attack skill is trained up? 04:44 for wizard this means levelling up either dagger or quarterstaff aggressively 04:44 K2: no, reduced spell failure penalty 04:44 is what I was thinking of 04:44 your idea is good too though 04:44 ais523, and hoping to get Magicbane before you run out of slots. 04:44 docpi: I didn't get Magicbane that game 04:44 an armored battle mage instead of a sickly raistlin? or a dropout rincewind? 04:44 * docpi ohs 04:44 Oh? 04:44 fairly recently in #evilhack we were discussing ways to make various spells better based on your skill in that spell school 04:44 the aim is to get any viable weapon, it doesn't have to be Magicbane specifically 04:45 some spells enjoy this already but many do not 04:45 "+4 quarterstaff" is a perfectly viable early-game choice 04:45 ais523, "choice" 04:45 well, you could use a +0 dagger :-D 04:45 startscumming wizards for +4, brb 04:45 but that's a less viable choice 04:45 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:45 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:50648 04:45 Nesta: to be clear, the startscum is for b?oEW, not for the random enchantment on the staff 04:46 tomato, tomato 04:46 potato, potato? 04:46 karafruit making the planes look easy 04:46 did you mean tomato, tomato instead of tomato, tomato? 04:46 * docpi calls the whole thing off 04:46 Nesta it's ezpz, just don't take all that heavy armor with you 04:47 karafruit, nudist Endgame? 04:47 yep 04:47 Noooooo.... 04:47 K2: but you're right of course, the hit chance and damage upgrades are the reason why you rush weapon skills on melee characters 04:48 so, spells should probably do that too 04:48 a wizard shouldnt have to rely on melee at all honestly 04:48 So, darts? 04:48 that's a tough nit to crack in a game like nethack. not impossible, but there are balance implications 04:49 *nut 04:49 +7 darts aren't bad either 04:49 you could do things like make Pw recharge upon killing monsters 04:49 that would have hard-to-calculate balance implications but they might be good 04:49 k2 and ais523: question out of curiosity, how much do you use log stats to tweak balance things in your variants? 04:50 Furey: I generally use vanilla stats 04:50 I added some enhanced stat tracking to NH4 with the plan to use it for balance tweaking, but there just aren't that many NH4 games 04:50 -!- Bleeko has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:50 so vanilla stats work better because there's a lot more data 04:51 here's a fun vanilla stat for you: newts kill approximately twice as many players as kobolds do 04:52 [US] [D]: bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2844 points, 5347 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 04:52 although, this is probably because they generate five times as often 04:52 Call that the "Dudley Anomaly". 04:52 Furey not at all really. I just play. and listen to player feedback 04:52 I generally determine balance and interface issues by actually playing the game 04:53 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:50787 04:53 …which is why I tend to do more development in July and December :-) 04:53 yeah i tend to not dev hardly at all in june/nov 04:54 i do have my list of Ideas™ tho that I update 04:54 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:218 04:54 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) murdered Wanwan, his faithful little dog, on T:265 04:55 i'm trying to think of the next big social thing someone could do for tnnt 04:55 social thing? 04:55 like swap chests or deathmatch, presumably 04:55 cross-game interaction 04:55 oh 04:55 yeah, any kind of cross-game interaction 04:55 for a second there I thought ypu meant some sort of LAN party meet up :) 04:56 you'd have to do that in multiplayer AceHack rather than NetHack :-) 04:56 unless the LAN is just for bones files 04:57 btw, I got massively mind-flayered on that ascension 04:57 look how popular the swap chest is, and the game advantage is (usually) somewhat of a limited wish, but it's so fun to compete for donation leaderboard 04:57 it… didn't seem to matter that much? I was able to re-ID or remember the few items that are actually important 04:57 the bbs dev Dustin Nulf and what I consider the first multiplayer roguelike, Operation Overkill II. 04:57 Furey: well, the swap chest is so powerful that I think players would be using it even if they disliked it 04:57 although, I personally like it 04:58 it is after the difficulty spike when playing normally, but possible to dive to 04:58 nice that not using it is a conduct too 04:58 as in not taking anything from it 04:58 Nulf, aka Weezal Dub, there used to be OOII meetups in the bbs community 04:58 [US] bouquet (Ran Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 arrows on an altar, on T:3149 04:58 maybe develop the arena npc more? have a board that shows the arena fights with links to ttyrecs 04:58 i have plans to make more arena maps 04:58 randomize it 04:59 oh man... just had an idea 04:59 i'm afraid to say it becuase it would definitely be a SMOP 04:59 did you just revolutionize online gaming again? 04:59 hah 05:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-20 05:00 UTC: Games: 12, Asc: 2, Scum: 0. 0d 20:26 gametime. (67%Hum), 10d 18:59 remaining. 05:00 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) averted death (petrified by Medusa), on T:30481 05:00 bet that was intentional 05:00 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:34523 05:00 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) removed spazm's uncursed spellbook of force bolt from the swap chest, on T:7834 05:01 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:30560 05:01 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:34526 05:01 the idea is this (very rough outline): if you ascend, the game saved the stats for your ascending character, much like it does for the deathmatch arena. you can then use that template to fight other ascending players, the ctahc is that the player you're fighting is being controlled in real time by that player 05:01 [US] bouquet (Ran Hum Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3349 05:01 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:01 pvp arena 05:01 so true PvP multiplayer 05:01 strict turn based 05:01 you get one turn, then your opponent gets a turn 05:01 rinse/repeat 05:02 You reach the Demigod Bar but you have to work, and the game becomes Tapper (1983) 05:02 -!- xdminsy has joined #tnnt 05:02 you log in, decide whether you want to start a new game/continue existing, or go to 'the TNNT Bar' 05:02 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 05:02 and see who is there to fight 05:02 probably going to have to implement PvP combat calculations from scratch, since I believe MvP and PvM are asymmetrical right now. 05:02 and drink 05:03 and general hayem 05:03 lol the demigod bar 05:03 that's perfect 05:03 cathartes yeah 05:03 cathartes: it's a three-way asymmetry with separate codepaths for PvP, PvM and MvM 05:03 SMOP 05:03 [US] [D]: bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 517 points, 1304 turns, killed by a giant bat 05:03 big SMOP 05:03 you get a real advantage if you bring an ice box full of booze 05:04 also I am not 100% sure that pet vs. enemy calculation is the same as enemy vs. pet 05:04 [US] [D]: bouquet (Ran Hum Fem Cha), 3135 points, 3822 turns, killed by an ape 05:04 so there may even be four or five 05:04 side bets using bitcoin enters chat 05:04 kf getting the GT 05:04 I think mon-vs.-mon should be symmetrical, but pet has the advantage of attacking first and also having more HP, usually. 05:05 because pet is usually close to the max HP for the level (level*8), while random monsters are usually generated with (level)d8 hp, averaging level*4.5. 05:06 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:50888 05:06 alright i gotta sleep. gnite all, have fun 05:07 -!- Furey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:07 xit 05:08 -!- tinklebear has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:08 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14357 05:09 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:34674 05:09 that was smooth kf GJ!! 05:09 -!- arahael has joined #tnnt 05:10 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 05:10 gg karafruit 05:11 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:101074 05:12 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 05:13 [US] MoonPig (Tou Hum Fem Neu) removed bleeko's uncursed +0 set of gray dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:7689 05:13 [US] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:13228 05:14 grats on no armor 05:14 congratulations karafruit, that was impressive! 05:14 i cannot even. i don't know how you even. 05:14 [US] [A]: karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1494584 points, 50907 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/karafruit/tnnt/dumplog/1700364579.tnnt.html 05:14 i mean can you even? 05:15 armor? what's that? 05:15 [US] [D]: a1 (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 6718 points, 6084 turns, killed by a wraith 05:16 grats on that crazy run kf 05:16 looking at the stats, it appears to be not just nudist, but no-extrinsic-AC 05:16 correct, yeah, just 9 AC from donations 05:16 gg karafruit 05:17 had a ring of protection at one point, electric eel blew it up; got another at +2, wore it a bit, tried to charge it and it exploded. (was already running short on ring fingers so I figured it wasn't the end of the world if it went poof) 05:17 huh, I think that is two ascension in a row with the +6 Staff of Aesculapius 05:17 my wizard and your healer 05:17 I tried to hit disenchanters with it but it just wouldn't behave :c 05:18 I hit a few disenchanters with mine, but mostly because I didn't really care whether it got disenchanted or not, so it was convenient 05:18 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:34712 05:18 although rust monsters were hilarious this run. I don't think I ever had a weapon that could rust (scapel, magicbane, staff) and never had any armor (that could rust or otherwise) and they didn't seem to do any damage 05:18 poor lil Rs, they were so useless 05:18 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31290 05:19 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:31293 05:19 karafruit: heh, that was the same for my wizard too – no rustable equipment 05:19 my last healer just carried around a +0 Staff of Aesculapius and not once ever used it, too busy healing wth +7 vorpal blade 05:19 they ate some things off the floor though (just random soldier inventory I think) 05:19 I took advice from the furey school of "be a jerk to whoever fights you in the arena" and put away all my good stuff before ascending :P 05:19 also the golden N's making you itchy with no bad effects 05:20 hmm… the wizard was actually more effective in melee with the staff than in spell-based combat 05:20 honestly my original goal was just to get to the quest for the achievement, but then I did it and managed to make it through the quest (those dragons were rough) and then just kept going 05:20 wiki says arena code will generate missing armor for your npc 05:20 at least partially because the staff restores HP when it hits 05:20 oh yeah, they could get good armor, but I meant like my tins of nurse meat and wands of death and stuff 05:20 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry about my connection] 05:21 yeah the staff restoring HP was super nice 05:21 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 05:21 also draining trolls to be useless when they revived 05:21 -!- tinklebear has joined #tnnt 05:21 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) removed Umbire's uncursed ring of searching from the swap chest, on T:14399 05:22 that marker (0:98) is gonna be missed 05:22 still salty about that brown mold I accidentally attacked very early on but happened to be wearing the right amulet at the right time 05:22 oh, yeah, that was a good marker but ended up not needing it 05:23 with just the other one I had one spare genocide and even got rid of xans (they're just annoying when you don't have boots to protect your feet) 05:23 I think this is my second ascension in a row where I took an item from a swap chest and put an item of the same type into the other swap chest 05:23 congrats, karafruit! 05:23 thanks tinklebear! 05:23 this time, I took a helm of brilliance from the Mines swap chest, and by the time I reached the Valley swap chest I had a spare, so I put the spare in 05:23 wow gg 05:23 i wonder if anyone has hit the Fureynator npc? probably just cheesed it, there's only so much any NPC can do :( 05:24 I didn't take anything out of the swap chest, nothing really interested me that run. There was a dragon scale mail when I got to mine's end but obv that wasn't for me 05:25 [US] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13849 05:25 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:34831 05:25 it would be funny if mike stephenson gave a nudist hero something different than a tee shirt 05:25 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:64439 05:26 would be especially hilarious if "something different" were a different piece of armor and thus still useless 05:26 a can of grease named "coppertone" 05:26 [US] [D]: a1 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 9 points, 173 turns, killed by a kobold zombie (and one other game not reported) 05:26 "i see you're not into clothes, so we have this artifact towel" 05:27 lol 05:27 in fairness, his throne was what got me my PYEC which I probably couldn't have done the run without 05:27 so I probably should've given him the third scroll anyway as a thank-you 05:28 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11402 05:28 think it would be funny to ascend with like 20 AC and swap out my armor with my trash corroded -5 armor that i got from getting walking bullseye this game 05:28 would make an interesting deathmatch opponent 05:28 lol imagine the deathmatch... they easily kill you and then just... get junk 05:29 sadly, wiki says, armor gets upgraded 05:29 awwh 05:29 it is only upgraded if you're missing in that slot 05:30 ^^ yeah that's what I thought 05:30 bc it would be funny to probe charlie14690 and see "-4 thoroughly rusty orcish chain mail / -4 thoroughly burnt orcish cloak / ..." 05:30 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 121 points, 748 turns, killed by a large kobold (and one other game not reported) 05:30 also deathmatch opponents dont have intrinsic protection 05:30 yeah that is WEAK 05:30 so it could be up to +30 but npcs cant wear rings tho 05:31 more WEAKNESS 05:31 (on left hand) a +8 ring of increase damage named "unspeakable cruelty" 05:31 (on right hand) +5 ring of increase damage named "harm" 05:32 I think the only intrinsic I got that game from eating jewelry was polymorph control; ate two rings of increase damage but neither one took 05:32 lol 05:32 me at the demigod bar with a bunch of horrible rotted armor 05:32 oooh i wonder if intrinsics like that survive the NPC sanitization process 05:33 -!- karafruit has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 05:33 guess the next Doug will find out 05:34 gonna be some competition in the rare air up at 320/325 achievements 05:35 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:14526 05:36 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:34835 05:36 [US] [D]: a1 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 168 points, 732 turns, killed by a giant mimic 05:37 fuckin medusa read a cursed teleport and almost merced me with her gaze lmao 05:37 cuz i had no cle where she went 05:38 go to the castle, wish for reflection, and then you won't have to worry about her. 05:38 i just forgot i hadnt killed her lol 05:39 she zapped digging then read cursed teleport 05:39 and whle i was walking around in the upper dungeon after clearing the castle she popped my aols 05:40 didnt expect her to havve both 05:42 You feel strong! You must have been exercising diligently. You feel wise! You must have been very observant. You feel agile! 05:42 You must have been working on your reflexes. You feel tough! You must have been leading a healthy life-style. 05:42 -- the rare quad attribute exercise boost 05:42 nice 05:46 some of us can't do without armor yet, so we take solace in our own exotic accomplishments 05:46 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) averted death (choked on a tin of spinach), on T:64416 05:48 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:43241 05:49 hey you may not have that one but there are a much larger number you do have! 05:49 [US] [D]: Nesta (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1519 points, 1690 turns, killed by a watch captain 05:49 ooh, that nudist ascension is very impressive karafruit! 05:51 [US] [D]: schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 166184 points, 43298 turns, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 05:52 $lastgame schoen 05:52 cathartes: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/schoen/tnnt/dumplog/1700435450.tnnt.html 05:52 at a certain point it didn't even feel like extra challenge really maybe post-quest? the dragons in the quest were tough but having the staff made things a lot easier 05:54 I wouldn't want to try it without wishing for MR though 05:54 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:54 can you wear amulets/rings in nudist? 05:55 yes 05:55 amulet of reflection was def mvp 05:55 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 05:55 so like most conducts, would you say that most of the difficulty of nudist was in early-mid game? 05:55 i can imagine 05:56 if the only MR is from an artifact, rodney is super dangerous 05:57 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:9038 05:57 Polyself into undead would save you from touch of death, and with no armor to destroy, destroy armor isn't exactly a threat. Don't know if that's how karafruit dealt with Rodney though. 05:58 hallucination is also an option 05:58 I had magicbane if I needed to but Rodney never stole my pyec 05:58 tbf I basically zotted him with wand of death immediately every time he showed up 05:58 oh yeah, i keep forgetting about magicbane 05:59 magicbane was my weapon through the quest and then I switched to staff 05:59 i forgot rodney cant steal any artifact just quest ones 05:59 did you ever use unihorn as weapon? 06:00 Current Day as of 2023-11-20 06:00 UTC: Games: 71, Asc: 4, Scum: 9. 477463 turns, 9441860 points. 4d 11:46 gametime. (23%Tou), (56%Hum), (47%Neu), (50%Mal), 10d 17:59 remaining. 06:00 nah, scalpel until I got magicbane which was fairly late since I didn't want to see artis in hopes I could wish for one 06:01 wanted to use a crysknife but didn't see any worm teeth until after magicbane 06:01 yeah the big problem early game was not doing much damage 06:02 things like imps and werecreatures were scary 06:02 because of regen 06:02 my last healer switched to unihorn, got expert, did decent damage 06:02 that probably would've been a decent idea 06:03 I thought about switching to some other things a few times but it felt bad to have expert in knife and switch to something unskilled for less damage initially 06:03 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 88 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:102251 06:03 i tried knife expert with throwing enchanted crysknives once, very expensive, not worth the resources 06:04 never really considered the uni horn tho 06:04 oof yeah I def wasn't gonna throw them 06:05 Furey: that must be a pain when they revert 06:05 unskilled unihorn should do more damage per hit than expert scalpel 06:05 it was a weird run, I had tons of rings early but not much access to enchant weapon and I didn't see remove curse or EA until really late (not that lack of EA was a problem) 06:06 cathartes: the scalpel is a lot more likely to hit, though, isn't it? 06:06 ais523: moderate pain, start with 8 or so, end with 4 06:06 it's what, d12 - 2 vs d3 + 3? yeah I guess on average 06:06 so the enchantment will be more relevant as it applies to a greater proportion of attacks 06:06 unihorn does have +1 scalpel has +2 06:06 crys has +3 06:06 unihorn won't stay unskilled for long 06:07 yeah I never really thought about unihorn tbh 06:07 although, slot competition is part of the reason my Wizard ascended with the Staff of Aesculapius (it is generally a better weapon than Magicbane though) 06:07 yeah, to-hit will matter in the early-game, but once the unihorn gets skilled up it is likely better 06:08 incidentally, is it at all likely for a blessed item to become cursed by malignant auras, assuming you're trying to rebless it whenever it unblesses? 06:08 wizard slot competition is real, but healer slot competition is non-existent 06:09 in 3.6 (and current 3.7) I believe that staff to expert is correct for wizards even though it hurts the late game 06:09 yeah I don't think I even advanced healing spells just dagger, staff, and knife 06:09 the blessed item would have to get hit twice in a row with the malignant aura, before you can re-bless it. I don't think it's very likely. 06:09 because the late game is not the problem, you need every advantage you can get in the early game 06:09 ais523: yes, if i pile up enough holy water i bless entire inventory, and sometimes an object goes straight to cursed 06:09 or maybe i'm observing the end result of the process cathartes describes :-/ 06:09 I was kind-of expecting to have to use my emergency sack, and just hoping that the Staff didn't get cursed while I was levitating 06:10 but, it never happened, just got unblessed once 06:10 I've used regular old non-artifact 2-handers in the late-game before, never had a problem with them getting cursed. Just had to check and re-bless every time I had a malignant aura. 06:11 can you invoke artifacts with no free hands? 06:12 Wizards would have the fairly simple solution of dropping the Amulet of Yendor (if you have it), branchporting to Vlad's and praying, even if they were stuck levitating 06:13 [US] haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14829 06:13 [US] mfabt (Ran Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "cursed unicorn horn", on T:1 06:14 [US] mfabt (Ran Hum Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "master key of thievery", on T:3 06:14 ais523: I could invoke the cursed Staff of Aesculapius that is welded to hands in wizmode. 06:14 (3.7) 06:14 -!- Arseniy has joined #tnnt 06:15 explore mode here, i can invoke mkot while wielding a cursed unicorn horn 06:15 OK, so there's actually a perfectly good second solution, this is nice to know 06:16 there is a plan B (the emergency sack) and a plan C (branchport out of Gehennom and pray), neither of which will be needed in typical games 06:16 [US] haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) removed efot's uncursed +0 unicorn horn from the swap chest, on T:14959 06:17 (if not in Gehennom, you can just pray directly) 06:17 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:15077 06:18 argh, watching these high-powered chars doing ascension runs, now i gotta get back into mind frame for a level 8 orcish wizard who has food problems 06:19 [US] [D]: MoonPig (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 35064 points, 11201 turns, killed by a troll 06:19 I had food problems on the asc run, sort-of 06:19 I did most of Astral with two partly-eaten food rations in main inventory because of them 06:20 at some point I should figure out just how much food an asc run needs 06:20 I finished with a partly-eaten food ration too 06:21 depends on how you define "asc run", and I guess it's going to vary a lot depending on how much mysterious force you get 06:21 i made quotas for mid-game and later. 8 of most food, 2 tripe, 16 royal jellies. when i have food shortages i tweak the quotas up. started with 4 of most food, wasn't enough. 06:21 also on spellcasting, ^T teleporting... 06:21 cathartes: Rodney to high altar, assuming you go directly to VS and sanctum after Rodney 06:22 but yes, definitely a potential for lots of variation 06:23 so let's say 1000 turns for Sanctum, then you have to go up 50-ish levels, give it 150 turns per level maybe. That's about 8500 nutrition you need? 06:23 that seems like an overestimate 06:23 although realistically I think you'll be faster than that most of the time 06:24 better to overestimate than to run out of food 06:24 but Water is an outlier in terms spent, and Astral in nutrition required because of Famine 06:24 * outlier in turns spent 06:24 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:15129 06:25 incidentally, divination is quickly becoming my favourite spell school – I think there might even be space for a diviner role, based around divination spells and physical attacks 06:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 06:25 that would play quite a bit differently from all the existing roles I think 06:25 divination spells v good, ya 06:26 thats basically the archeologist 06:26 the divination spell school has the spell that can kill the most monsters per turn 06:26 light? 06:26 yes, light vs a bunch of 1-hp gremlins 06:26 how many 1-hp gremlins can you get? 06:27 as many as the number of hp that the initial gremlin started with 06:27 priest '#turn' in locate level graveyard can do 80-100 06:28 that's not exactly spellcasting though, but yeah, that can do a lot of monsters in one turn too. 06:28 [US] [D]: OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 17969 points, 17019 turns, killed by a leocrotta, while reading a book 06:28 at least in 3.4, a 1hp gremlin gains more than 1hp if it kills another 1hp gremlin in conflict 06:28 so you can actually farm a single gremlin indefinitely 06:28 blessed scroll of light against a level full of 1 hp gremlins is probably the most per turn 06:28 it is a bit tricky to pull off though 06:29 idk what the range on #turn is but light is basically 10x10 06:29 if you consider a combat genocide a 'kill' then 500+ acid blobs on astral 06:29 you don't get credited with the kill for genocide though 06:30 technically correct, the best kind of correct :) 06:30 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:103788 06:31 oh, a level 30 #turn actually has 14 range, if the wiki is correct 06:32 is that radius or diameter? 06:33 internally NetHack uses squared radius, e.g. radius 5 is stored as 25 06:33 so light would be bigger then i think 06:33 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.7_Released/src/pray.c#L1999 should be radius 06:33 which explains the occasional non-integer radius seen in cases like the jumping spell at various skill levels 06:36 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of taming named i trade wishes for achievements", on T:64997 06:36 My favorite range exploit is that you can use an aklys (range 4) to kill a monster standing on the upstair without it fleeing (they may flee if within range 5 of you). 06:37 does that work on covetous monsters too? 06:37 This is because one counts squares diagonally, and the other counts Euclidean distance. 06:37 yes, it works on covetous monsters. I've used it against them. 06:38 you probably shouldn't tell me about that sort of bug, it kind-of feels like it should be fixed but it's fun enough that I'd prefer to leave it in 06:39 I would have left in the thrown-Vorpy exploit if it were up to me, it's hilarious and might not even be overpowered 06:39 who says you have to fix it? 06:39 I think most devteam members would fix it if they found out 06:39 -!- klepto has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:39 …huh, am I the only devteam member in here? 06:40 you'd expect to see more 06:40 didn''t think of an aklys but i have daggerstormed demon princes on upstairs 6 or7 away 06:40 hm, even paxed isn't here 06:41 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +1 speed boots named clan YTF!!!!!!!!", on T:10745 06:42 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed master key of thievery", on T:10750 06:43 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:16393 06:45 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 06:52 "Thrown Vorpy"?? 06:53 I think there was a bug in which, if vorpal blade beheaded a monster, you could throw it to guarantee monster beheading, because the dieroll used to determine beheading wasn't updated on throwing. Or something like that. 06:53 docpi: so in older versions of NetHack, it doesn't reroll the behead dice roll if you throw Vorpy rather than attack with it normally 06:53 so if you behead one monster, you can switch to throwing and it beheads every time as long as you never make a normal weapon attack 06:53 You can thrown Vorpal Blade for its special beheading effect? 06:54 You can throw Vorpal Blade for its special beheading effect? 06:54 Oh! 06:54 * docpi ohed 06:54 sure, but (in the absence of the bug) it doesn't happen very often, and then you're risking the monster picking up vorpy and using it against you 06:54 Which is excatly why I never throw useful weapons, ais523. 06:54 docpi: right, which is how the bug managed to exist for so long without anyone noticing 06:55 Aha! 06:55 * docpi ahaed 06:55 More a loophole than an actual bug. 06:55 bugs that occur when players are using sensible strategies are reported frequently – bugs that only occur when players are using nonsensical strategies are much harder to discover 06:56 This game never ceases to amaze me. 06:58 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:01 Like Vlad-taming, it took like 7 years since the release of 3.6 before it became publicly known (perhaps it is not truly a bug because it is fun, but I think it was initially unintended). 07:01 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:14188 07:04 cathartes' aklys "corner case" 07:05 oh, that's a clever pun 07:05 :D 07:06 an arbitrary subset of NetHack's bosses are susceptible to instant death effects – why not have an arbitrary subset susceptible to taming, too? 07:06 I vaguely remember that two of the Riders are tameable 07:06 although that may have been changed/"fixed" 07:06 no, I think two of the Riders are still tamable 07:06 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 07:07 not much point in fixing it, since letting players tame the Riders doesn't actually give them any advantage (its harder to tame them than to just ascend) 07:08 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:68394 07:08 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:68399 07:10 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:15546 07:12 cathartes: indeed 07:12 although, there was some advantage in 3.4.3 07:12 taming riders would stop them bothering you while you went death farming, it was one way to get arbitrarily high scores 07:13 well, I wouldn't call that an "advantage", exactly. Player able to do that is able to ascend, and at that point they're just doing it for bragging rights. 07:14 it depends on how meaningful you want the high-score tables to be 07:14 I think an exploit that made a conduct trivial would probably be fixed, for example 07:15 even though anyone who could make use of that would by definition be able to ascend 07:15 like, ascension on its own may not be the end goal for everyone 07:16 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:68759 07:16 hm, ok, but that's certainly not the only way to get an arbitrarily high score. I think the highest 3.6 score on NAO had a different automated score-farming setup. 07:19 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed tins of spinach named ok popeye now give me my omelet", on T:65721 07:21 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 4121 points, 7107 turns, killed by a mumak 07:21 cathartes: indeed – I think in 3.6 there was an attempt to fix *all* methods of score farming 07:21 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:21 although I'm not sure how well it worked 07:21 but, e.g., neither kraken farming nor pudding farming work any more 07:22 argh the mumak wouldn't stay asleep 07:24 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:16763 07:26 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 07:27 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 317 points, 1392 turns, killed by a kobold, while frozen by a monster's gaze 07:29 ais523: was it score farming that was intended to be fixed, or the degenerate behavior of indefinite item-farming to get arbitrary items? 07:29 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 07:29 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:27412 07:36 -!- a-1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:37 [US] haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:21432 07:40 I don't see the point of nerfing score-farming anyway, who does it hurt? It's not as if the Astral Plane is inaccessible to everybody else while someone is Death-farming. 07:41 exploiting or even cheating at a one-person game hurts literally nobody (yes, I used to be much more strict about that in the rgrn days, but I've become more tolerant with aga) 07:42 with age, even 07:43 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3081 07:43 there's something to be said for disallowing it in tournaments because you don't want only farmers to make the high-score list 07:47 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 07:47 Since #turn doesn't affect prayer timeout, can I just spam it with no consequences other than temporary helplessness each time? 07:48 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:49 if you're in the priest quest, beware of the &, who aren't affected 07:49 also it takes Pw afaik 07:50 I don't recall it taking Pw to #turn. 07:50 *sigh* it's been too long since I got a priest that far 07:50 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 07:51 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 674 points, 1575 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 07:51 Thanks. 07:51 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:66137 07:52 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:66139 07:54 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:18414 07:54 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:69726 07:54 [US] haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:22414 07:55 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:69740 07:55 im curious now what happens when a drum of earhtquake is used on the plane of earth 07:56 either nothing, or a bunch of pits 07:56 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 440 points, 1562 turns, killed by a giant bat 07:57 i feel like it's pits 08:04 [US] sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law) found kitten, on T:2668 08:08 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 08:08 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1251 points, 3114 turns, killed by a dwarf king 08:08 Crashed hard. What I miss. 08:09 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 08:15 I know I've asked before but... if a devteam scroll burns up the devteam quest is unwinnable right? 08:15 Basically? 08:15 [US] [D]: Nesta (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 529 points, 1660 turns, killed by a scroll of genocide 08:15 [US] Nesta (Ran Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (elf), on T:1660 08:16 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 08:16 (it's the only achievement I'm playing for now) 08:18 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 501 points, 1434 turns, killed by a water moccasin 08:21 [US] cathartes (Arc Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:10023 08:21 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 280 points, 531 turns, killed by a goblin (and 3 other games not reported) 08:21 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:66517 08:28 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 724 points, 1450 turns, killed by a rabid rat 08:30 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:66640 08:31 [US] haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful dog, on T:27074 08:31 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:32 [EU] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Novice, on T:2471 08:34 [US] [D]: Nesta (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1694 points, 1914 turns, killed by a giant bat 08:36 [US] [D]: haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 69110 points, 27953 turns, killed by a winged gargoyle 08:36 thank you for the spellbook of sleep arahael 08:36 (I uncursed it in the shop and the cat brought it) 08:36 [US] Corbin (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragonscale mail", on T:47192 08:39 score farming makes Amaterasu Omikami cry, raisse 08:39 it is not victimless 08:43 I only started farming puddings because the game would not give me a saddle 08:44 so i needed either a wish or something i could polypile to a saddle or a saddle 08:44 [EU] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) has entered the Arena, on T:22113 08:44 never got a saddle before NAO reset 08:44 lol 08:45 -!- charlie14690 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:47 [US] [D]: bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1655 points, 2457 turns, killed by a rothe 08:48 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 928 points, 3379 turns, killed by a dog 08:48 [EU] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Scuzzery the Student of Waters in a deathmatch, on T:22174 08:49 -!- Nesta has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:50 I wanna see if I can eventually turn this Valk into a caster, I lucked out on the first two books I read being special spell + another attack spell 08:54 why tho 08:55 Why not 08:56 what schools can valks get skill in again? 08:56 Attack/escape 08:56 to what level 08:57 all roles get skilled minimum in their special spell's school 08:58 [US] cathartes (Arc Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13244 08:59 [EU] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "marker", on T:22230 09:00 -!- kewldewd has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:05 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 09:06 said Valk is going fine enough, just a bit on the Weird™ side resource-wise 09:06 -6 is Fine AC wise but something I'd like to improve, same with this weapon situation but I haven't discovered the scrolls needed 09:07 somehow never got Mjollnir doing all that sacrificing in Orc Town 09:08 speaking of here's another neutral altar 09:17 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:18798 09:22 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Nalzok, on T:32240 09:24 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32272 09:26 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:49491 09:28 -!- anselmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:29 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:41 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:41 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 09:44 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:19186 09:46 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 301 points, 756 turns, killed by a brown mold 09:47 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:47 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 09:48 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 317 points, 846 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 09:50 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:50 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 09:53 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1703 points, 3547 turns, killed by a giant beetle 09:56 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:56 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 10:00 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:00 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 10:03 Whee picked up magic missile 10:04 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:04 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 10:05 Woo aligned temple priest 10:05 now I can buy protection before feeding them to my dragon 10:08 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:08 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 10:10 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:28331 10:10 Got an oilskin sack out of the deal, well worth 10:12 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:12 Robe obtained for future planned shenanigans 10:12 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 10:13 Drain life get too 10:16 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:16 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 10:17 [EU] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3111 10:18 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 413 points, 3313 turns, killed by a sewer rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 10:20 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:20 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 10:22 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:49864 10:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:23 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 10:24 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:24 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 10:26 huh. turns out I know enchant armor but only ever like, found the one 10:26 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:49895 10:28 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:29479 10:29 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:29 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 10:31 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:19714 10:32 Finally found Ludios in a game 10:34 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:34 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 10:37 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 10:37 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:30476 10:37 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:42 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:45 It's not just a myth?! 10:53 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:51304 10:55 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) wished for "marker", on T:31634 11:03 [AU] ranchyang96 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 fireproof robe", on T:22197 11:03 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 22 points, 246 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 11:04 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:52047 11:04 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) wished for "historic marker", on T:31698 11:05 Furey inspired me to do a good and leave behind snacks instead of taking them 11:05 -!- kewldewd has joined #tnnt 11:07 :-) 11:08 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:23529 11:10 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (petrified by a chickatrice corpse), on T:32928 11:11 ah F, at least I had AoLS 11:13 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:33033 11:13 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:33035 11:14 No lizard corpses? 11:14 I know they wouldn't have helped but just wondering 11:14 Umbire: indeed... I do have some lizard in my bag 11:15 this reminds me of taking it out 11:15 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:53047 11:17 wrote blessed ID scroll, full ID + ID'd charging, yay for me 11:18 and enchant weapon, way overdue for that 11:18 p. solid markers too, 0:70 after one scroll, other is 0:69 (nice) 11:20 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:33935 11:24 2nd straight full ID 11:24 you love to see it 11:24 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:24155 11:24 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24156 11:25 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +3 water walking boots named me so dumb", on T:34167 11:27 -!- stagnate has joined #tnnt 11:28 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:34282 11:28 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:34285 11:33 water walking boots? not ring of levitation? 11:34 Former doesn't lose to shock damage on Plane of Air 11:34 -!- Bleeko has joined #tnnt 11:34 I've mained them in both asc runs this month, only switch to speed on my last Knight once I reached Water iirc 11:34 water walking boots on plane of air? 11:34 there's potions lmao 11:34 and in my case I also had a flying steed 11:36 Don't clouds contain water?? 11:36 they should! 11:36 but like i'm more confused what the boots are actually for 11:37 gonna keep watching to find out 11:39 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:35021 11:39 Fireproof water walking boots = quick pass through Medusa and Juiblex on the way up, cut through the lava on Plane of Fire, isn't all that complicated 11:39 exactly 11:39 [EU] Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu) murdered his faithful horse, on T:28892 11:40 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) found kitten, on T:14216 11:40 for me it's also an additional layer of "I don't instantly lose the game" if something happens to my ki-rin 11:41 re: said Knight 11:43 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:44 fireproof water-walking boots allow easy safe object pickup on water and lava levels, such as valkyrie quest (especially the last level) 11:45 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:34840 11:45 Only took half of fuckin' forever 11:46 one XL and 11k to go for quest 11:46 gonna go grab that last missing code scroll, plunge further still and figure out things from there 11:46 Honestly I should just hit up Ludios 11:46 get some gloves and maybe scales at bare minimum 11:47 perhaps get the XL from devteam office sinks? a little tedious with valkyrie, bring some tripe 11:48 It's not that pressing yet 11:48 also well aware of the sink thing lmao 11:48 [EU] noims (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:12033 11:48 just saying there's still a lot to do, maybe I'll hit the mark during that 11:48 i just think the sinks are the solution to everything :) 11:48 * Umbire bonks Furey 11:48 also somehow never ran into soldiers prior to Ludios, try and figure that out 11:53 You have been sent back 19 levels by the mysterious force. 11:53 nabru loves Baalzebub's level 11:53 yep, mysterious force hitting hard on me 11:54 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:54 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:37455 11:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 11:57 ah F, AoY got stolen and now I can't find it 12:00 Current Day as of 2023-11-20 12:00 UTC: Games: 95, Asc: 4, Scum: 13. 569927 turns, 9579891 points. 5d 03:40 gametime. (20%Pri), (60%Hum), (41%Neu), (51%Fem), 10d 11:59 remaining. 12:04 C - the Amulet of Yendor named The Real Deal (being worn). 12:04 yey 12:05 I'm surprised you have an amulet slot open for it 12:05 yep, used my AoLS 12:05 haven't found any other yet 12:05 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:38064 12:05 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:38114 12:08 good luck, nabru 12:08 thanks! 12:08 Wearing the Amulet already? 12:08 -!- tinklebear has left #tnnt 12:09 Andrio: yup 12:12 What for? 12:12 Apart from that it's nice and shiny 12:12 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased wand of death", on T:38906 12:12 not for much, really 12:14 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:15 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:39469 12:16 Best of luck 12:17 thanks! 12:20 we do a lil' worm herding 12:20 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1176134942028222516/image.png?ex=656dc405&is=655b4f05&hm=1edde96cbfa5eaa4784698bb71f20c2e027b755b9d82394cd068611f087eee2a& 12:22 -!- fakepass has joined #tnnt 12:26 I forgot how annoying the plane of water is 12:26 Come back to me when you've done it genoless 12:26 (even then I was more miffed about pet loss than anything) 12:27 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 687 points, 1804 turns, killed by a mildly contaminated potion 12:27 You arrive on the Astral Plane! 12:27 yey 12:28 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased partly eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:39804 12:28 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:25376 12:29 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:39832 12:29 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:33518 12:30 lot of +2 small shields from the Ludios haul, got some gloves, some good boots~ 12:31 [US] [A]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2959672 points, 39861 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/tnnt/dumplog/1700429137.tnnt.html 12:31 yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!! 12:31 first altar was the one 12:31 congrats!!!! 12:31 Congrats nabru 12:31 Well done! 12:31 Thanks! 12:31 Your first ever or your first in a while! 12:31 My first one in a while 12:32 my first one was in TNNT 2021 IIRC 12:32 Congrats nabru! That’s your second one ever right? 12:32 yep malor 12:32 That’s awesome! Good job! 12:32 my first ascension was 2 years ago, during TNNT! https://old.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/qz5x73/yafap_nabruvaldwafemlaw/ 12:36 You destroy the vampire lord! Welcome to experience level 13. 12:36 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:38 Sick, Ludios dragon had gain level 12:38 At worst I can start on my escape item cache 12:40 Not a great time for a mindflayer to show up in the secret passage though, tell ya what 12:42 That's another gain level, great 12:42 You feel very firm. 12:45 -!- stagnate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:47 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 12:47 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:51 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:37649 12:51 Third gain level pot 12:51 game's easy 12:54 Do you MIND 12:55 Mr/Ms/Mx MIND flayer 12:55 I'm trying to play MINEsweeper here 12:55 And you brought in my dog and fucked up everything, lovely 13:02 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34263 13:02 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:34264 13:03 [EU] [D]: lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 496 points, 1713 turns, killed by a fox 13:09 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:34384 13:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:15 -!- jientho has joined #tnnt 13:16 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 13:18 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 13:25 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 13:29 And one of the last mines to disarm blows up on me anyway. 13:29 Beautiful. 13:33 rip 13:33 K2, minor bug re: leash - curses isn't updating when you apply or remove a leash from a pet 13:33 Oh hi Logs 13:33 ab 13:33 Umbire that's fixed in 3.7 13:34 K2: There are several item state changes which do not get updated in the perm_inventory window. 13:34 if it's not a crash or a tnnt specific issue, we dont touch it 13:34 Yeah this probably isn't tnnt-specific then 13:34 Oh, okay. 13:36 it'll be nice to have tnnt on 3.7. just need nethhack devteam to actually release it officially 13:36 -h 13:37 PatR keeps indicating that it might be released soon when I #chat with him but I’m not sure anymore 13:38 lmao got one gain level pot of each beatitude 13:38 @Loggers_VIII :) 13:38 easiest 14 ever 13:38 nice 13:39 Also can’t wait for 3.7 because I am going to kill the quest leader every time 13:39 so mean 13:39 getting to level 14 to do the quest is surprisingly painful 13:39 i am gonna /oDig moloch altars 13:40 heh 13:40 It wasn't all that bad in my two ascs I don't think 13:41 I think it was worst in my monk one but then I was committed to vegan so 13:41 but the quest is so fun I want to do the quest as soon as I’m ready 13:41 I still haven't poked below DL20 yet on this run 13:43 That's a lie, I got shafted FROM DL20 while clearing out that floor 13:43 @Loggers_VIII yeah the needing to be exp lvl 14 to do the quest, not a fan either 13:45 but that's minor 13:45 would rather see the MF go away 13:45 yeah in p. much the same boat 13:46 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:34971 13:47 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:25011 13:47 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:34979 13:47 I doubt the MF will ever be removed from vanilla 13:47 lmao possibly first wraith this game and there's a corpse 13:48 in the commit notes for the commit that nerfed it, pat said something along the lines of “izchak implemented the force, and as far as I’m concerned it’s here to stay” 13:50 yup 13:50 give it 30 years and it might get removed 13:52 [US] desertgreg (Arc Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:15307 13:53 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:35054 13:53 [AU] [D]: madelotsofspaget (Kni Hum Fem Law), 70 points, 562 turns, killed by a wand 13:53 Someday Pat will retire from development and whoever replaces him will remove the mysterious force 13:54 I’m somewhat convinced pat is immortal 13:55 [US] kewldewd (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:19050 13:55 like a force of nature or something :p 13:56 heh 13:58 A _mysterious_ force of nature! 14:00 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 14:00 Ah, Loggers. 14:01 wazzup 14:01 Me, dying. Lots. Often. 14:02 There is a grave here. Something is engraved here on the headstone. You read: "Anyone for deathmatch?". 14:02 lol 14:05 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class m, on T:58129 14:05 mysterious force is already nerfed enough in 3.7 imo 14:05 -!- Grasshopper has joined #tnnt 14:05 it doesn't make that much of a difference if it gets removed 14:05 i assume teleportation would be nerfed then too 14:06 so no more teleporting when carrying the ammi 14:06 hah, displacement can make monsters attack other monsters, I never knew that 14:08 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:21143 14:09 [AU] [D]: madelotsofspaget (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 400 points, 1517 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 14:10 Gentletournamenters, is the staircase to the Gnomish Mines placed regularly in TNNT? 14:11 Yes 14:11 Worse, Loggers_VIII, displacement can make unicorns jump at you, I have heard. 14:12 Then, my dear Umbire, I cannot find it, which is getting frustrating. 14:13 You checked under statues? 14:14 Ha nice, last code scroll was in a vault 14:15 Ha, Umbire, good call. It could well be under a statue. Thank you, I shall check. 14:15 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:58305 14:15 I was used to the colored tile option for staircases sharing a tile with items. 14:16 Be sure you've mapped the floor entirely, if all else fails use far look et. al. 14:16 Anyway, think it's over due for me to make some DSM, if only to free inventory space 14:17 put it in the swap chest plstnx 14:17 if i win 9 more times i have 250 vanilla wins according to NHS 14:17 but wont be happening this tournament lol 14:17 hothraxxa, the plan is to switch to gray ASAP 14:17 stenno, not with that attitude 14:17 cool, cleaver deathdrop 14:17 $whereis Loggers 14:17 Umbire: [US] Loggers : (Ran Hum Mal Neu) T:1978 The Gnomish Mines level: 8 14:17 shittiest swap chest i can rmember atm 14:17 docpi you can also use #terrain to check for stairs (don't show monsters/objects) 14:18 Golly, I did not know that the British kept records of nethack games. 14:18 * docpi smiles innocently 14:18 I put in... I think a scroll of earth, a book I didn't know, and I think a spare wand? 14:18 not like banner donations but they're hopefully not penis items either 14:18 was hoping for dsm. any dsm 14:19 i'm a poor healer who lost his +2 studded armour by turning into a horse 14:19 oof# 14:19 ooh, one of these lamps I've found is magic, nice 14:19 did you know horses can wear blindfolds and use whistles? 14:19 what server are you on hothraxxa 14:19 us 14:19 not too surprising 14:19 hothraxxa, they can? 14:19 i could 14:19 Axe Ranger is something on the docket of "things to try" 14:20 shoutout to Hack'EM for adding actual throwing axes 14:20 dragons can also do a surprising  amount of things without hands 14:20 -!- Nesta has joined #tnnt 14:20 Did you know I don't have a blindfold or towel yet 14:20 have to walk into my pet's poison blasts 14:20 lmao 14:20 -!- Waffa has joined #tnnt 14:21 hahaha 14:21 anyway off to deliver this last scroll then move my Orc Town stash and finally enter quest 14:21 [US] [D]: Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3170 points, 7777 turns, killed by a yeti 14:21 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:35492 14:22 "you are now more skilled in axe" :) 14:22 I love cleaver 14:22 Cleaver gud 14:22 sadly tnnt cleaver is not safe 14:22 nearly killed poor foo 14:22 Now if I had an orb, then I could search for the second downstairs, no? 14:23 I don't use pets so its downside is pretty negligible for me 14:23 docpi you can't search for dungeon features with an orb in 3.6 14:23 Yes but if you're leaning on that I'd just find it the normal way 14:23 priests and shopkeepers though 14:23 cleaver is junk 14:23 Cleaver isn't Stormy 14:23 it's only an issue if there's a hostile right next to them in range 14:23 it's not bloodthirsty, just be careful where you're swinging it 14:24 Perk of switching to blue DSM is I can actually cast like I wanna 14:24 Umbire: pog 14:24 of course. it's remembering in the heat of battle 14:24 also mobileuser you are junk >:( 14:24 what spells you got 14:24 better to train 2-handed asap instead, damage is also disappointing 14:24 the only thing i cast is my fishing line... as a slashem yeoman 14:24 peep my game rn if you're not busy 14:24 also, it means you can find yourself without a decent weapon in a melee 14:24 damage is not bad and the arc is so gooood 14:24 and I discover if you stick with the small shield the valk's shield penalty basically doesn't exist 14:24 i need to go buy groceries and feed myself 14:25 then one moment 14:25 eat dirt and sticks for nutrition 14:25 but i can barely even manage that today because my poons are all gone 14:25 spoons 14:25 and if ur bold maybe even small rocks 14:25 Loggers_VIII, but.. why? 14:25 i ate a boulder once 14:25 you appear to be mistaking aoei for a SlashTHEM lithovore 14:25 it was very filling 14:26 @aoei 14:26 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1176166681303851028/image.png?ex=656de194&is=655b6c94&hm=9c4c748659951d41803fa9a7e780da4a61f4edb410c53f91aeef7c245b73c27c& 14:26 forgot the image 14:26 fun thing to note is I started with 11-12 Int? 14:26 oof these failure rates are kinda awful 14:26 docpi because it feels badass 14:27 It's legitimately whatever and I have a robe in stash 14:27 "Umber Hulk In Training" 14:27 what are your stats and what is your... Int? Wis? (which is the casting stat for valk?) 14:27 I think it's Wis 14:27 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1176166959730135080/image.png?ex=656de1d7&is=655b6cd7&hm=4659b6f0c2bd67b66f59e6dcff70275b3b29dddf3040361953d5d4ff2b96db2a& 14:27 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:35573 14:27 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:35574 14:27 sleep and magic missile pretty nice to get that low on valk actually 14:27 ^ 14:28 this is acceptable enough for the time being 14:28 it is Wis yea 14:28 whats your Wis 14:28 once I get gray DSM and put on my robe I'm in business 14:28 16 14:28 oh yeah robe will make huge diff 14:28 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:54414 14:28 [AU] [D]: madelotsofspaget (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 974 points, 2324 turns, killed by a giant bat 14:28 what are you using for armour rn 14:28 and are you wielding a shield 14:29 blue DSM + small shield 14:29 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:29 not too time left in tnnt, has aoei played any games yet :P 14:29 any metal hats, gloves, shoes? 14:29 accidentally vaped the starting one reading scrolls but Ludios had replacements up the ass 14:29 shadow yeah a lil bit 14:29 Nonmetal all the way, legitimately ditched elven mithril so I could reduce weight and wear this DSM 14:29 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 14:29 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1176167525629820938/image.png?ex=656de25e&is=655b6d5e&hm=bdd9ecc1edcc71e4a56d90a4e72d9d027afa0494ed192849d6e0abb21f847bc4& 14:30 much to everyones (me) surprise 14:30 pls dont ShadowRider i am having mental health issues and my failure to find any time to play nethack is making things worse 14:30 :( 14:30 😦 14:30 sorry to hear 14:30 we're here for ya, alright? >: 14:31 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 14:33 there's cancellation ID'd 14:33 What're the odds of an artiwish when 2 are already generated 14:34 Nesta bones had Orcrist/Trollsbane 14:34 umbire playing caster valk, and i'm playing orc wizard who casts rarely because of the food cost 14:35 fug 14:35 should've been carrying a mirror for just such an emergency 14:35 (about to risk crowning) 14:38 Ooh, what's Michelin Guide again 14:40 tbh ranger might be my favorite role 14:40 Actually I think I need to push deeper and see if I can get that gray DSM 14:40 and donate all this Ludios gold 14:40 I'll at least drop off the code scroll first 14:40 umbire: do you have stethoscope + unihorn 14:40 Yes 14:41 Already did the water prayer 14:41 you can sit on the altar. three effects: reduce wis by 1, reduce alignment record by 1, god yells at you. 14:42 you can fix wis with unihorn or avoid wis loss with ring of sustain ability. 14:42 you can ignore god message with MSGTYPE. 14:42 you can reduce alignment record below pious and then never get crowned. 14:42 reconciled almost immediately 14:43 I'll worry about it at the next water prayer 14:43 pretty grind-y and sometimes i overshoot on alignment, but then kill some cross-aligned monsters. 14:43 which is ideally a long while now that I have a cancel wand/holy water 14:43 none of this is esp. mission critical, was just wondering what the odds on artiwishes were with 2 gen'd versus like, 3-4 14:44 eh, arti wishes are outside my play style, sorry 14:44 lol np 14:44 Loggers_VIII halp 14:45 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) removed hothraxxa's uncursed bag of holding from the swap chest, on T:2278 14:45 uhhh idk 14:45 -!- Waffa1 has joined #tnnt 14:45 2 gen'd artifacts you can get it but it's unlikely enough that people don't do it I think? 14:46 you know what, I'm already on the unorthodoxy express 14:46 -!- Waffa has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:46 -!- Waffa1 is now known as Waffa 14:46 to the castle! 14:47 but first 14:47 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:35997 14:48 @Umbire Wiki says 2:0.666, 3:0.5, 4:0.4 14:48 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law), 6193 points, 2400 turns, killed by a vampire lord 14:48 thank you random person I've never seen before 14:48 no really this is the first I recall your username, how are ya, what's up 14:49 and also genuinely thanks 14:49 jientho has been playing since devnull days, but has finally found the chat 🙂 14:50 [EU] [D]: abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 716 points, 1650 turns, killed by a giant ant (and 3 other games not reported) 14:50 Hi. I'm a friend of Bleeko irl. Just getting better with a lot of looking at netwiki. 14:51 yay new hacker 14:51 Nice, hope you've been enjoying 14:51 nethackwiki is wonderful I love it 14:51 (and you can thank umbire for a lot of it) 14:53 do axes get a bonus against wood golems? 14:53 [US] Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4027 14:55 Yahuh 14:56 👀 14:56 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1176174326450503700/image.png?ex=656de8b3&is=655b73b3&hm=85d71a8d50878156330a8ff2c003afaab740e0fe6ef63db4da62dc1d1308f216& 14:56 [US] Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Neu) removed eitwinston's potion of holy water from the swap chest, on T:4422 14:57 honestly that's not a bad thing to donate 14:57 I got gnome king's wine cellar and no coaligned altars yet, so gonna have a lot of holy water soon 14:58 all you need is the one to maintain your supply 14:58 yep 14:59 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law), 288 points, 802 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 14:59 Loggers_VIII, are you going to dilute the booze (shame!), then, um, 'liberate' the temple in Minetown? 14:59 was tempted to take a spellbook of healing out but ultimately chose holy water for a more wise investment 14:59 "The housecat bites the white unicorn.  The white unicorn is killed!" FINALLY 14:59 Ah, now I see. 14:59 nope I'm gonna dilute the booze and then use this potion of holy water from the swap chest to make it holy 14:59 all I had was 1 peaceful unicorn in this game 15:00 Yes yes, I saw it now. 15:00 unihorn is MINE 15:00 aw, cleaver got corroded :( 15:00 Good, good, mobileuser. 15:00 I wish vanilla had forges 15:00 :) 15:00 Loggers_VIII, it applies the oil on the cleaver. 15:00 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:00 and does as its told 15:00 or it gets the hose again 15:01 lol 15:01 :P 15:01 confused enchant weapon whenever you have a spare scroll 15:01 in other news: 15:01 that scene always gave me the creeps which I'm sure was intended 15:01 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1176175525077713048/image.png?ex=656de9d1&is=655b74d1&hm=1898aacded54d70ea30ed4999984b89d7015bdf85c778c80aabdc5899aa448fb& 15:02 wow 15:02 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAMQGIx3JKk&t=20s 15:02 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 15:02 unfortunately in-between seeing the shop via blinding from magic trap and actually reaching it I picked up teleportitis 15:02 Okay, I am breaking out the scroll of magic mapping. Not finding the entrance to the Mines is ridiculous. 15:03 it's not always on the same level docpi 15:03 2-4 15:03 2, 3 or 4 15:03 what'd you do, eat a tengu? 15:03 mhm 15:03 omg that armor shop 15:03 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:32589 15:03 \o/ 15:04 I know, mobileuser, but I simply cannot find it anywhere. 15:04 long been able to work with it, just some tedium in the equation 15:04 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32596 15:04 Why would some shops in TNNT have empty tiles from the start? 15:04 because there's a mimic in there 15:04 Because mimics/bones 15:04 you'll notice I uploaded an image of the shop before that 15:04 that's universal not just tnnt 15:05 Umbire, I have not genocided anything in TNNT, ever. 15:05 ...? 15:05 you can alsoget a blank shop tile if a monster picks something up 15:06 probably docpi is talking about their game and it's just coincidental you sent a picture of a shop? 15:06 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:58842 15:06 I didn't mention geno at all though 15:06 hence not genociding anything so mimics wouldn't move, I guess 15:06 I meant the shops I visited, Umbire. I enter them for the first time, I can pretty confidently claim that there was no monster there before, but still empty tile(s). 15:07 then either other monsters picked something up, you're on a bones level, or else there are mimics present that moved to a different square and you didn't check as thoroughly as you think 15:07 Correct, Loggers_VIII, I saw the picture, and remembered that I had ancountered shops with empty tiles myself, so I was wondering. 15:07 I've not ever done the "early m geno" thing but I've considered it 15:07 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #tnnt 15:07 Okay, Umbire, how would bones interact with items in a shop? 15:08 the shop looks just as it was when the bones was made 15:08 well, someone could move the items in a shop and then when you got the level you would notice 15:08 :v 15:08 Umbire, I call it the "convenience shopping" conduct. I love it! 15:08 i usually genocide m when i think i've almost reached orcus town 15:08 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:21018 15:08 95zm chain mail, that shit must be pumped 15:08 I always forget, is the "ulch! that potion tasted foul!" message for gain ability? 15:09 P. sure 15:10 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10 WHERE'S MY GDSM PEOPLE? 15:10 tempted to take loggers' magic whistle and cut my losses 15:11 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:37702 15:11 i put in a nice boh too 15:11 I'm workin' my way down 15:11 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:27605 15:11 if you can wait, like... 8 hours? I *might* have a gdsm for you 15:12 heh 15:12 i'm a healer. i'll prolly see a gray dragon or two eventually 15:13 my problem is the swap chest is behind an unavoidable teleportation trap and i don't have tp control, so coming back to it is a problem 15:13 Booooooo 15:13 i escaped it on the way in. hindsight says i should have dug it out :( 15:15 lmao cornuthaum 15:16 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death (turned to slime by a green slime), on T:56338 15:16 oh right 15:16 leashing a pet takes it with me when I tele 15:16 [US] [D]: queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1633026 points, 56342 turns, killed by a death ray (with the Amulet), while paralyzed by a monster 15:17 bigass throne room on level 6 15:17 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1176179459213242419/IMG_4399.png?ex=656ded7b&is=655b787b&hm=2346276b04f241eacafbf0484cdc763e2bd65a3e39b3a5883b5756dcd0c41ecf& 15:17 cleaver gonna make this very fun 15:19 [US] Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:6915 15:20 golden naga just hangin out on level 7! 15:20 must've been a chameleon cause it didn't drop a corpse 15:21 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:36966 15:21 a procedural error has been made 15:21 I now have more than one pet 15:22 [US] [D]: nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1519 points, 1261 turns, killed by a soldier ant 15:23 Go team a! 15:24 $lastgame queuebert 15:24 Furey: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/q/queuebert/tnnt/dumplog/1699863382.tnnt.html 15:26 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:37742 15:26 Oh dear, slime and death ray 15:26 Got reamed on Air 15:26 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:28962 15:26 Speaking of undesirable outcomes there is a gold naga on my screen 15:27 slimed, all armor came off, killed, aols kicked in, life saved, naked, crowd of monsters hits again, dead 15:27 Oh man. Ugly way to go 15:28 Not even hit, just a stray death wand from an Archon's summons 15:28 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:37081 15:28 [EU] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:24300 15:28 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:38071 15:29 plane of air can be super scary 15:30 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:30 [EU] [D]: lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 307 points, 703 turns, killed by a gnome 15:31 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:2986 15:31 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:45142 15:32 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:37179 15:32 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3025 15:32 Another lesson learned: A unicorn may be co-aligned, and sleep resistant. 15:33 In which case you don't need to try to put it to sleep to begin with 15:33 unless you're desperate for the horn 15:34 Also, they aren't sleep resistant but they have 80 MR 15:34 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 3174 points, 7339 turns, killed by a gray unicorn 15:34 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:38596 15:34 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:38597 15:34 Umbire, YASD. I could have checked. 15:35 So I will never know where the entrance to the Mines was in that game. 15:36 [US] desertgreg (Arc Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20302 15:36 I had three cats, one dog, and two horses as pets, but I wanted to sacrifice corpses, so I parked them one level below. 15:36 [EU] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Dictyostelium's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:24593 15:36 They would have taken good care of _any_ unicorn.. 15:37 I died on a co-aligned altar, too. So no bones. 15:37 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:22439 15:37 ...why would that not leave bones? 15:38 Umbire, no grave on an altar? 15:38 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 15:39 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:37246 15:39 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 shield of reflection", on T:22445 15:39 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism by consulting with the priestess of Mog, on T:28928 15:40 TNNT achievement unlocked: "Leeroy Jenkins". 15:40 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:39109 15:40 docpi, that just affects grave generation, not actual bones level creation 15:41 Oh. 15:41 * docpi ohed 15:41 So the bones stash would generate on the altar itself? 15:42 Yes 15:43 Neat. 15:43 annoying that smoky is gain level this game 15:43 Is there no way to disintegrate your stuff then? Be eaten by a kraken? Drop in lava? 15:43 speaking of bones. Is there a way that you can tell if you generated bones when you die or not on hardfought? 15:43 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:22448 15:44 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:59371 15:44 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:22463 15:44 Generally no, kraken don't eat you and the only way to leave literally nothing is to just die on a separate floor from all your stuff 15:45 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:37285 15:45 Dictyo, krakens can eat you? 15:45 * docpi should read more diligently. 15:45 Idk 15:46 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:33843 15:46 -!- joes has joined #tnnt 15:46 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:22494 15:46 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:4894 15:47 They can't. 15:47 kraken (;) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 3 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: special | AC: 6 | Atk: 2d4 claw physical, 2d4 claw physical, 2d6 hug wrap, 5d4 bite physical | Align: -3 | genocidable, carnivore, swims, amphibious, nopoly, infravis 15:49 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) wished for "2 Blessed scrolls of gold detection", on T:40143 15:49 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:22600 15:50 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:33925 15:53 [US] [A]: BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1850006 points, 37305 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/BEHiker91W/tnnt/dumplog/1700138098.tnnt.html 15:54 gg 15:54 wew green dragon blasted a peaceful fire elemental and bankshot a hostile ogre lord 15:54 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:40497 15:54 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:40506 15:56 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:40739 15:58 [EU] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:25526 15:58 [EU] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:25531 15:59 [EU] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:25533 15:59 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:29416 15:59 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:29416 15:59 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:40912 16:00 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:40915 16:01 [EU] [D]: abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 120 points, 589 turns, killed by a sewer rat 16:03 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:29483 16:05 0:3 WoW! 16:06 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 16:06 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:30317 16:08 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "the blessed fireproof Platinum Yendorian Express Card", on T:45898 16:08 Well find me in the alps, lost that coinflip 16:09 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7044 16:12 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:42419 16:12 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:39232 16:12 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class L, on T:39232 16:13 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:35870 16:13 [US] rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:2971 16:15 N - a set of gray dragon scales. 16:15 [US] jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Adept, on T:4810 16:16 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:42818 16:16 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:16 [US] k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:1822 16:17 ooooh snap 16:17 -!- xdminsy has joined #tnnt 16:17 i'm gonna die 16:18 [US] jientho (Hea Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:12096 16:20 [US] Bartlem (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3 16:21 [US] spleen (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:4137 16:25 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 266 points, 1010 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 16:25 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:35404 16:26 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) destroyed sirteapot's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:8777 16:26 hothraxxa, you still in the Valley? 16:28 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:46427 16:31 -!- a1 has joined #tnnt 16:31 -!- blackpenguin has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.6-dev] 16:31 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:46576 16:31 would you believe this arch-lich was the cause 16:31 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:30839 16:32 nymph was nearby too, that could've been unmitigated disaster 16:32 [EU] [D]: stenno (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 779 points, 715 turns, killed by an invisible gnome 16:34 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:36816 16:35 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:35758 16:36 [EU] Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:31857 16:36 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:39753 16:38 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:43202 16:39 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:31456 16:39 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:9498 16:40 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31472 16:40 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:43275 16:40 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:43311 16:41 [EU] [D]: abacus66 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 698 points, 1428 turns, killed by a dwarf 16:41 [US] [A]: Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 2149306 points, 43352 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bean/tnnt/dumplog/1700328789.tnnt.html 16:41 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail named It's The Thought That Counts", on T:46727 16:41 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:41 got the +3 16:41 Gg Bean 16:41 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:37253 16:41 gg Bean 16:42 -!- stagnate has joined #tnnt 16:43 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 16:43 -!- theRaisse has joined #tnnt 16:43 and shapechanger becomes another purple L, very annoying 16:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:46 Too many close calls. 16:47 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 16:48 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 16:48 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:39980 16:48 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 489 points, 2239 turns, killed by a jackal 16:48 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:22997 16:49 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:49 [EU] NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (newt), on T:364 16:49 random 16:50 2dont like this run anways 16:50 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10550 16:50 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 273 points, 450 turns, killed by an acid blob 16:50 [US] [D]: disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1002 points, 936 turns, killed by a small mimic 16:51 [EU] Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:32805 16:51 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2267 points, 5404 turns, killed by a black pudding 16:55 :c 16:55 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:36720 16:56 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:32575 16:58 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 620 points, 711 turns, killed by a bat 16:58 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) removed karafruit's 4 blessed scrolls of enchant armor from the swap chest, on T:40911 17:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-20 17:00 UTC: Games: 10, Asc: 1, Scum: 0. 56834 turns, 2155820 points. (30%Pri), 10d 06:59 remaining. 17:01 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:11594 17:01 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:36969 17:02 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 448 points, 2608 turns, killed by a gnome 17:02 [US] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:72207 17:03 -!- joes_ has joined #tnnt 17:05 -!- stagnate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:05 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:07 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 444 points, 3107 turns, killed by a garter snake, while sleeping (and 13 other games not reported) 17:07 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:37537 17:09 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 17:11 [US] Nesta (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:2418 17:14 [EU] NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6930 17:15 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2011 points, 1965 turns, killed by a kobold lord 17:15 -!- Arseniy has joined #tnnt 17:15 woo my scrolls of enchant armor went to a good home! 17:19 [US] Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9590 17:20 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) removed Loggers' uncursed magic whistle from the swap chest, on T:47660 17:21 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) removed Umbire's uncursed +1 gray dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:21677 17:21 [US] [D]: Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2769 points, 3405 turns, killed by a giant beetle 17:21 [US] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:72493 17:22 [US] Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:10054 17:23 Throne? 17:24 [US] [A]: mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2164348 points, 37580 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mikew999/tnnt/dumplog/1700366702.tnnt.html 17:24 Gratz mikew999 17:25 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) destroyed Nesta's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:14926 17:26 Conveniently forgot orb of fate can’t detect stairs in 3.6 until after burning all my blank scrolls lmao 17:26 umbire fountain 17:26 [EU] [D]: Noisytoot (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2677 points, 4293 turns, killed by a soldier ant 17:27 Which is why you don't burn them 17:27 lmao 17:27 [US] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:72536 17:27 if you think you don't need it stash it for later because there's a good chance you will 17:28 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:37528 17:28 I didnt mean burn literally I just used all of them for other stuff 17:29 Secret door detection and the like are still good 17:30 [US] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:72558 17:32 Yeah i’m just running gehennom normally now until I amass enough create monster scrolls the map the rest 17:32 To map the rest* 17:33 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:34 I found 2 extra gds and an sds so I figure i’ll need a couple extras for enchant armor to donate those 17:34 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 17:34 how do create monster scrolls help with mapping? 17:35 [US] Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:11801 17:36 I can blank them and they’re really common drops 17:36 probably you can blank 17:37 I have WW and like 4 wands of cancellation 17:37 Magic mapping is cheap to write as well 17:38 And I have 3 wishes left I think 17:38 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:39 aoei, sike re: earlier mention of special spell stuff, Valk is capped at basic 17:39 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:37854 17:48 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:32070 17:48 [US] Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4033 17:49 -!- klepto has joined #tnnt 17:49 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Dictyostelium's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:3884 17:50 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed burning partly eaten +5 speed boots named Wizard of Speed and Time", on T:32874 17:50 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:38090 17:52 [EU] Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:33742 17:52 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:32226 17:53 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:41531 17:55 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4638 17:56 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4651 17:56 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1185 points, 2385 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion (and 8 other games not reported) 17:58 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 25000 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:41747 18:00 Current Day as of 2023-11-20 18:00 UTC: Games: 148, Asc: 8, Scum: 34. 845506 turns, 20370291 points. 8d 15:37 gametime. (21%Wiz), (61%Hum), (43%Neu), (51%Mal), 10d 05:59 remaining. 18:03 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:05 [EU] Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed erodeproof wand of death", on T:33746 18:06 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:41950 18:06 [US] Nesta (Bar Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3132 18:06 [EU] Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:33747 18:06 [US] mikew999 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1175 18:07 -!- docpi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:08 [US] [D]: Nesta (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1401 points, 3389 turns, killed by a cave spider, while dressing up 18:09 And green dragon created a gas cloud that just wasted the Valley priest 18:09 Starting to not like this choice of pet actually 18:09 Oof 18:09 At least I get a robe without going back to my stash...? 18:10 [US] jientho (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:13618 18:13 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:18934 18:13 -!- docpi has joined #tnnt 18:14 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6421 18:15 -!- docpi has quit [Client Quit] 18:15 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:28464 18:16 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:32926 18:19 [EU] Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:34004 18:19 -!- dbanethacker has joined #tnnt 18:20 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "very fixed partly eaten historic uncursed magic marker named The Best is Still Unwritten", on T:48281 18:23 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) removed crunchbubba's blessed greased fireproof +4 robe from the swap chest, on T:7028 18:24 [US] Bartlem (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 18:26 -!- desertgreg has joined #tnnt 18:26 yeah I am not a fan of green dragon breath 18:26 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:31941 18:26 just got a wierd message when I tried to take something out of the 'pearwood container':  "you reach for the robe, but it slips out of your grasp and shatters!" 18:27 -!- docpi has joined #tnnt 18:27 -!- joes_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:27 desertgreg: my guess (just a guess) is someone else reached for it first and won 18:27 can you still take something else? 18:28 yeah that was my guess too 18:28 Ok yeah I can take something else 18:28 wow that was a good item!  +4 erodeproof blessed robe! 18:29 klepto had the same idea 18:29 should have been quicker :-) 18:29 I guess that's how the devs dealt with the race condition 18:29 oh no. sorry desertgreg 18:29 yeah I was wondering how that was handled, heh 18:29 I had no idea this was even a thing 18:30 [US] Shrigis (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:20464 18:31 well now i know what i'm donating later :) 18:31 [US] desertgreg (Arc Hum Mal Neu) removed karafruit's uncursed ring of slow digestion from the swap chest, on T:20340 18:31 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:7877 18:32 woo enjoy that ring! I couldn't remember what the third thing I'd put in last game was lol, guess it was that. 18:32 Does the swap chest get cleaned out at intervals? 18:32 thanks! :-) 18:32 was there a message showing who got the +4 robe? 18:33 yeah it was klepto 18:33 ah makes sense! 18:34 coeurdleon: i have heard that untaken stuff gets deleted after some interval, but am not sure if that's true or a rumor or what 18:34 ah, the perils of uncursed fortunes... could be true or false 18:35 it's probably true because a player has to put in 1-3 items before removing 1 item, no way around that, so the total items in the swap chest system would grow over time, and yet i see about 30 items every day, so there must be a cleaner 18:36 I also remember someone saying it only shows a sample of the available items but also not sure how true that is (and could be that sample is just X most recent or something) 18:37 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:38 -!- kewldewd has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:39 Found stone to flesh in the VOTD, my hunger problems are over 18:40 woo eat those huge chunks of meat! 18:42 [US] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an oval amulet on an altar, on T:3988 18:42 "well fuck, forgot I don't have a levitation source, lemme just levelport up instead-- oh cool, I'm at the Rogue level" 18:43 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 19 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33432 18:43 in the room with the devteam stair even 18:44 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:30549 18:45 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:14614 18:45 -!- Furey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:45 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:48851 18:46 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 18:46 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31364 18:47 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:31366 18:47 [US] [D]: haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law), 2697 points, 4216 turns, killed by a giant mimic 18:47 [US] bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:33592 18:48 DevTeam members are poison resistant, right? 18:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 18:48 is there a size chart for the t-shirts anywhere? 18:49 i think in vanilla its 1 size its all 18:49 lol 18:49 lolno 18:49 some variants do have different sizes for gnomes or giants (playable race) 18:49 try keeping that shirt on as a giant 18:49 also that's (n)dnh's hat 18:49 [US] [D]: bleeko (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 449550 points, 33638 turns, choked on a gelatinous cube corpse 18:49 oh yeah if youmorph it's gone 18:50 at least it feels like it 18:50 [US] disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Nesta's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:1165 18:50 i can hardly remember a time when a polytrap didnt destroy some piece of armor i wanted to keep 18:51 Bleeko, :c 18:51 Bleeko no 18:51 Also you shrink out of torso armor if your new form is smaller, and destroy it if your new form is larger 18:52 Friggin self-own 18:52 Thought I had the headroom 18:52 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) removed DekaFumoPuzzle's uncursed +0 silver dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:30879 18:52 At least it wasn't a wraith corpse. That's just embarassing 18:53 I’ve done that before 18:53 [US] [D]: disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1843 points, 1340 turns, killed by a killer bee 18:53 Just wanted the shock resistance, instead I get to play a whole new game! 18:54 -!- HalNovek has joined #tnnt 18:54 my last ascension, I used jumping boots to fix that problem – whenever I ate to oversatiated I would jump around until I wasn't satiated any more 18:54 You never cram further after the huge chunk of meat 18:54 stone to flesh to fix nutrition issues is weird 18:54 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:54 I eat cubes and puddings soon as I can because I almost always seem to get shock resistance specifically from them 18:54 meatballs give basically no nutrition, and huge chunks of meat give too much 18:54 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 18:55 Umbire: well, there aren't many shock res sources 18:55 No like, as the first resistance they give 18:55 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "Blessed master key of thievery", on T:33784 18:56 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "Blessed master key of thievery", on T:33787 18:56 don't you normally have the others by the time you get that far? 18:56 my last run I swapped out my amulet for magical breathing when I wanted to eat something (usually a wraith) and hoped nothing would breathe fire or whatever at me. was annoying, but it worked. 18:56 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "Blessed master key of thievery", on T:33789 18:57 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:57 [US] [D]: mikew999 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 996 points, 3860 turns, killed by a soldier ant 18:58 Yea, I checked my bag for magical breathing but left it up at the stash because I was just oilskin and had just hauled a bunch of stuff down to the VOTD chest. 18:59 @karafruit: when you have a full set of elemental resistances, and most of your important items in your bag, reflection doesn't actually help in most cases 18:59 Went and did it anyway. All on me. RNG is innocent this time 🙂 18:59 although, "full set" can include disint res if there's any risk there's a black dragon around 18:59 true, unless there's a black dragon nearby 🙂 18:59 in my reflectionless games I often genocide D 18:59 reasonable 18:59 [EU] Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu) removed ais523's uncursed spellbook of healing from the swap chest, on T:34695 19:00 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class ;), on T:14645 19:00 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:14646 19:00 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:14647 19:00 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) removed noims' blessed scroll of charging from the swap chest, on T:46506 19:00 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 19:01 [US] [D]: haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law), 1663 points, 2774 turns, killed by a soldier ant 19:01 hmm yeah I probably would've been fine last game without reflection astral would've been rough tho since I like to have my potions of full healing out, but didn't really need them anyway 19:01 I am glad that someone liked my spellbook of healing 19:01 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1184 points, 3177 turns, killed by a hill orc 19:02 I was a late-game character that already had extra healing, but found the spellbook of healing and thought "I bet some starting character would really like that, I will put it in the swap chest" 19:02 I was surprised someone took a spellbook of detect monsters I put in I think it was an un-id'd one I'd put in from catacombs as a caveman 19:02 Detect monsters is a good spell 19:02 there is a nonreflectable fire spell that's commonly used on Astral 19:02 and yes, detect monsters is annoying to use but *very* powerful 19:03 in that it only one-time detects per use? 19:03 about the only thing it doesn't work against is when a horde of hill orcs spawns around you rather than out of view like they're supposed to 19:03 I guess it was more--i had no idea what books I'd put in, and was pleasantly surprised it was useful to someone 19:03 Umbire: at skilled it gives you continuous detection for a while 19:03 but you have to keep recasting it 19:03 @karafruit: that was me with a spellbook of identify earlier 19:03 which, I'm at a loss for how exactly to describe how monster/object detection works on a basic level 19:03 I knew it was level 3 but not which one, I was a non-spellcasting character 19:04 ah makes sense 19:04 Umbire: so detect objects is pretty simple, it adds all items on the current level to the character's memory 19:04 yeah as a caveman I was like "ah crap I've got nothing good to put in... oh well, guess I don't need these spellbooks, maybe they'll be good ones" 19:04 det mon at skilled is kinda op given its like, a level one spell 19:04 level 2 I think 19:05 so relatively cheap to cast even with amulet problems 19:05 but it doesn't last very long and it is easy to forget to recast it 19:05 I think it's level 1? 19:05 maybe I'm confused with detect monsters? 19:05 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 154 points, 535 turns, killed by a jackal 19:05 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:05 detect monsters is level 1 19:05 detect treasure is level 4 19:05 you are right, detect monsters is level 1 19:05 ais523: detect treasure is like lev- yes 19:05 but also I'm talking about the method of rendering on the screen 19:06 what Umbire said 19:06 detect monsters could quite resonably be level 2 19:06 (for purposes of wiki editing later) 19:06 some variants make that change 19:06 lol I tried to search it and accidentally typed detect mobsters; v different spell 19:06 but yeah det mon crazy op 19:06 Umbire: there is a separate function for it, and I think windowports have some flexibility 19:06 detect monsters is great on astral (if skilled), also lvl 1 and divination, so good for training 19:06 you know how when your Excalibur spots a trap underneath an item, it blanks the whole screen and shows you just the trap? 19:06 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:14926 19:06 yeah, I know that, but I don't know how to describe it 19:07 detect objects (and unskilled detect monsters) is like that but with more symbols showing 19:07 I know!! 19:07 incidentally, I changed this in NH4, making unskilled detect monsters work like the skilled version but with a very short duration 19:07 I'm specifically talking about a concise set of phrasing that accurately describes that 19:07 it makes the interface so much simpler due to not needing the special case 19:07 that is what I lack 19:07 yeah furey I never thought about using detect monsters on astral until I saw you do it while filling it with blobs 19:09 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:23635 19:10 Umbire: I think using internal terminology it would be "the game hides the monsters and the background, showing only the detected items" 19:10 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #tnnt 19:10 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 19:10 Hmmm, how do you get a succubus to look at your mirror?  Showing it to her via the apply command isn't working. 19:10 dbanethacker: Message from K2 at 2023-11-19 15:06 UTC: I see the order, good to go 19:10 but how a particular windowport implements this is up to the windowport 19:12 dbanethacker: are you invisible? 19:12 might need a mummy wrapping 19:12 Good thought - let me try that. 19:14 " The succubus admirers herself in the mirror.  She takes it! " 19:15 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Nalzok, on T:34823 19:17 Hmmm, no Achievement earned.  I thought there was one related to mirrors and succubus's ? 19:17 [US] [D]: klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 29164 points, 13421 turns, killed by a cobra 19:17 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34828 19:17 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: playing a bridge tournament and won't be able to talk on IRC while playing] 19:19 is it mirror and nymph? 19:20 yeah it's mirror and nymph 19:21 Ok, I need me a nymph. 19:21 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 316 points, 1613 turns, killed by a little dog 19:21 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof saddle", on T:32034 19:24 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:4311 19:25 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1299 19:25 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 107 points, 518 turns, killed by a system shock 19:26 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:49343 19:28 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) removed Andrio's stethoscope from the swap chest, on T:48052 19:28 -!- Furey has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:28 [US] rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3017 19:29 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) has entered the Arena, on T:40380 19:29 [EU] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:62380 19:30 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1585 points, 4205 turns, killed by a fire ant 19:30 [US] jientho (Hea Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13951 19:31 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased spellbook of charm monster", on T:48170 19:32 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Evilparsnips the Sorceress in a deathmatch, on T:40458 19:32 [US] rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) ate for the first time - newt corpse, on T:3169 19:32 [US] rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a newt corpse, on T:3169 19:36 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:19503 19:36 [US] [Q]: DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 37238 points, 11788 turns, quit (and one other game not reported) 19:38 [US] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:4504 19:38 -!- HalNovek has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:39 -!- kewldewd has joined #tnnt 19:40 [EU] tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "E", on T:3007 19:40 -!- stagnate has joined #tnnt 19:41 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:42 [US] [D]: Evendur (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1268 points, 1897 turns, killed by a bugbear, while frozen by a potion 19:42 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 19:43 Okay, gentletournamenters, and especially Umbire, here it is: 19:43 ? 19:43 I just entered a liquor store for the first time, and there is an empty tile on its floor. 19:43 You know you can just ask people to spectate your game, yes? 19:44 Without all the heavily-formal wind-up et. al. 19:44 There are no other monster that I would know of on this level, and there is no bones pile that I would know of. 19:44 Umbire, I like to be polite. 19:44 Polite and formal are distinct qualities but I digress 19:44 Anyway, there was a mimic in that spot that decided to move, as I mentioned before 19:44 When did it decide to move, and where? 19:45 where *to 19:45 To an adjacent square? 19:45 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:105076 19:45 Also, why did it decide to move when I just entered the shop for the first time? 19:45 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:45 It also moves when out of your sight, it's not exactly a complicated process 19:45 LEt me have a look there. 19:46 -!- HalNovek has joined #tnnt 19:46 And since when do mimics decide to move before they are discovered? 19:46 Since they were first generated? 19:46 Oh. 19:46 See, I mailed you in the hopes you would avoid doing exactly that. 19:46 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 19:47 I didn't know mimics would move around before you had uncovered them 19:47 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:105082 19:47 They do that? 19:47 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 19:47 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 114 points, 271 turns, killed by a giant mimic 19:47 Always have. I just never commented on it much. 19:47 Wow. 19:47 Well not "always" always but it was commonplace enough that I accepted it as an occupational hazard. 19:47 Also please do not go mimic hunting at XL 1. 19:48 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 19:48 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:1872 19:48 Well, now I know. 19:48 (Unless you're good enough to actually drop said mimic) 19:48 Excellent, more experience! 19:48 mimic hunting is free xp :) 19:48 free random magic marker 19:49 well, not free. it's 75zm. but still 19:49 I have given up taking 3.6 seriously since I have been dying so much for dull reasons. So anything goes now. 19:49 And for the record: Umbire, you were right. Thank you. 19:49 [US] [D]: disperse (Sam Hum Fem Law), 11108 points, 6076 turns, killed by a housecat, while disrobing 19:50 there's barely any new ways to die in 3.6 lol 19:50 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) found kitten, on T:7635 19:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 19:50 a giant mimic in a potion shop like that is worst case scenario for any wizard with just force bolt/striking for magical offense 19:51 WOW! A WAND OF WISHING RIGHT NEXT TO ME ON T:1! 19:52 wow nice 19:52 wow 19:52 awesome 19:52 better ascend this docpi :) 19:52 incredible 19:52 * Bleeko checks calendar, WoW day wasn't supposed to be until wednesday. 19:52 [US] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "a blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:7 19:52 Bleeko: Wednesday of Wishing? 19:52 lol 19:53 It's recursive 19:53 WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! 19:53 This is the first time ever to find a wand of wishing right next to me in the starting room. 19:53 Or on level 1 19:54 That's so awesome. 19:54 I found a Wand of Death a few weeks ago on level 1 or 2, but this... 19:54 The best time to find one 19:54 noo gremlins at Juiblex swamp 19:54 Your MMF is waiting next to the stairs on DL2 19:54 damn, another marker dropped right away from an elf lord! 19:54 today is lucky 19:54 wow 19:54 So I guess that my first wish was emotional, and I should have wished for a scroll of charging instead? 19:54 dont forget to wish up a couple blessed scrolls of charging 19:54 Or two scrolls of charging? 19:55 yeah 2, might get lucky 19:55 That should always be the first wish from an un-IDd WoW 19:55 Okay, for my next trick.. 19:55 Does anyone want to watch, then I shall wait half a minute. 19:55 [EU] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:35609 19:55 * docpi takes a deep breath 19:55 [EU] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35611 19:55 If this wand is cursed, and explodes on me.. 19:56 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1661 points, 4118 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt (and 31 other games not reported) 19:56 you'll start a new game? 19:56 Also, how does Croesus decided which games to report, and which to omit? 19:56 turn count 19:56 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:56 stagnate, forcibly, yes. 19:56 if you're under a certain amount of turns you won't be livelogged 19:56 Okay, here goes. 19:57 if it was 0:1 that would be so sad 19:57 HA! 19:57 noooo 19:57 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:35282 19:57 * docpi laughs maniacally 19:57 whahappen 19:57 RNG has such a strange sense of humor.. 19:57 see, what did I say? 19:57 Yes, sorry, I made an emotional wish. 19:57 Not really, it's like 1/3 flat 19:57 $who 19:57 xdminsy: [EU] HarmathZsolt ansic nurdglaw lrrr spontiff Kontroller tromix | [US] terrapin jackofclubs spazm rebatela k2 klepto tinklebear haldisse DragonSidedD allanb crunchbubba walkera spleen arnibald widmerpool eitbo hothraxxa docpi dbanethacker | [AU] Phyban 19:58 been there, done that, reprogrammed myself 19:58 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:49510 19:58 Should I try to wrest a last wish, or should I wait for the three blessed scrolls of charging waiting for me in the next room? 19:58 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2404 19:59 Nah, you're still good. Just got something to look forward to once you can write for find charging 19:59 [US] spleen (Rog Orc Mal Cha) found kitten, on T:6491 19:59 Wow. 19:59 ops forgot my illness 19:59 my advice is save the game, take a break, plan, get calm 19:59 [EU] [D]: ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 465926 points, 49516 turns, poisoned by Juiblex (and 7 other games not reported) 19:59 like the night before your birthday 19:59 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 613 points, 1536 turns, killed by a rothe 19:59 nethack really can still excite you every single game 19:59 you will probably find charging at some point or another so don't wrest it 20:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-20 20:00 UTC: Games: 15, Asc: 0, Scum: 1. 1d 09:01 gametime. (43%Wiz), 10d 03:59 remaining. 20:00 You're a wiz, so you should be able to write it with good luck and a marker 20:00 Umbire: mimics will not move while still hidden 20:00 Plan what, Furey? I am still on single-digit turns. 20:00 look at mon.c:1064-1065 20:00 qt: what if you have searching? 20:00 Still as good a time as any 20:00 Also this is with off-screen ones, HalNovek 20:00 plan how you're going to play 20:00 if they lose their disguise for some reason they will move 20:00 Furey, I never had a plan. I just go. 20:01 or don't plan, enjoy nethack your own way 20:01 qt, I presume when alerted to your movement or else detected by some means? 20:01 the check in movemon_singlemon is just "if this monster is disguised as furniture or an object, don't make any move" 20:01 It happened in the game I was playing just now before doc's whole WoW thing 20:01 so I guess something must have caused it to lose its disguise 20:01 they also re-disguise if you see them and then leave los 20:01 And yes, I swear to never wish for anything else from now on than two blessed scrolls of charging for my first wish with a Wand of Wishing. 20:01 well, I'm also looking at 3.7 so something could be a little different here in 3.6 20:02 so they can re-disguise in another spot and leave a shop space open 20:02 i do plan, play slowly, and enjoy the outcomes 20:02 if you use a scaring method I think that might do it? 20:02 could scare them/cause them to drop their disguise, cause them to start moving, and then they'll redisguise elsewhere in the shop? 20:02 I never got past more short-term plans 20:03 No, honestly, Furey, I am willing to understand what you mean by 'plan'. I have a rough idea of how to react to what RNG throws at me, but other than that, at this point in the game, it's nothing but exploration. 20:03 With reflection, and excellent AC this time. 20:03 step 1) start a game. step 2) ??? 20:03 docpi: make sure you get poison res 20:03 hahahahaha terrapin 20:03 best summary of nethack I've heard yet 20:03 poison instadeath is an easy way to lose a well-equipped character early 20:03 [US] [D]: klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 5676 points, 5141 turns, killed by a chameleon imitating a hell hound 20:04 eat those shriekers! 20:04 okay beginning game is about three things: pr, mr, reflection. you have 2. so first plan is how to survive long enough to get pr. 20:04 I suggest stash the wand of wishing(0:0) at level 1. 20:04 Gentletournamenters, I entered the sho- ah, I had entered the level for the second time. Did this wake up the mimic in the shop that I did not yet know about, so it moved a bit before I would enter it for the first time? 20:04 xdminsy, why this? 20:04 *that 20:05 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:35474 20:05 So it doesn't get exploded presumably 20:05 second xdminsy's suggestion 20:05 it could get destroyed by a lightning wand if you carry it around 20:05 so it doesn't get blown up by something yeah 20:05 Well no need to do that :P 20:05 one time in Splicehack I found a dlvl1 wow 20:05 Also my guess is the mimics might've been generated undisguised, moved and then cloaked 20:05 You have reflection maybe no shocking sphere in 3.6 too? 20:05 and I didn't know about that x monster that has an item-destruction lightning melee attack 20:05 I got a dlvl2 wow once! then I died to a giant mimic in a shop 20:05 Well, Furey, I have a ring of sutain ability, so it is almost as good as poison resistance. 20:05 and it blew it up when I tried to fight i 20:05 lol yeah I guess that will help you to get poison res 20:06 eat a lot of corpses 20:06 but be very cautious whenever anything could be poisoned (including, say, orcs with bows) 20:06 you can weat =oSA while eating the right corpses 20:06 Oh I remember, that you may explode your wands when opening chest :P 20:06 you still lose max HP though 20:06 Yes, Furey, I have done so in the past. 20:06 because "The poison was fatal..." would really suck with this character 20:06 So better stash it. 20:06 Excatly, Loggers_VIII, and I have died from that a couple of games ago just yesterday. 20:07 s/fatal/deadly but yeah 20:07 Good point xdminsy. 20:07 * docpi hms 20:07 Hm. 20:07 Okay, here goes.. 20:07 * docpi taks another deep breath. 20:07 * docpi mumbles "What were the odds?" 20:07 yeah you're right Umbire I misremembered it 20:08 loggers are you playing? 20:08 xdminsy I have a ranger going well 20:08 [US] [D]: stoicjin (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 776 points, 2272 turns, killed by a magic missile 20:08 currently parked 20:08 qt, can include that that's fixed in 3.7 when I finally split the mimic article 20:08 I should be back to playing somewhat regularly now, I was a bit busy for a couple weeks 20:09 what's fixed in 3.7? 20:09 Umbire, I did not know that mimics could be generated undisguised. I always assumed they would get generated instead of items on tiles of a shop florr, and put there already disguised, like a mine. 20:09 Ah I see, you are busy recently. 20:10 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:38779 20:10 The mimic thing, qt? 20:10 I don't know what was fixed in 3.7; I looked at the 3.6 code and it has the same rule about monsters disguised as furniture or items not taking a move 20:11 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:11 I would have guessed you did something that made the mimic move like used a scaring instrument from outside of the shop, but I don't know. it would probably need more investigation to try to figure it out 20:11 Hm 20:11 maybe they can be generated undisguised under some circumstances with the expectation that they'll disguise immediately, not sure 20:11 Okay, gentletournamenters, first challenge: A fresh kobold corpse. HP12, XL1, Ring of sustain ability. Eat or pass? 20:12 Pass 20:12 doesn't give PR 20:12 Oh, okay. 20:12 Thank you. Good to know. 20:12 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:28066 20:13 docpi: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Poison_resistance 20:13 it looks to me with just a brief check that mimics should always be generated disguised, even in 3.6. there's a set_mimic_sym() call in makemon() immediately after the monster is placed on the map 20:13 Well, qt, my recent demise currently finds no other explanation than a mimic generated in a shop undisguised, then woken up when I entered the level the first or the second time, moved two tiles eastwards, and then disguised itself again. 20:13 so idk why it'd be moving around if the hero literally did nothing that could have caused it to lose its disguise 20:14 it's happened to me too 20:14 just this game actually 20:14 we can check ttyrec if you remember what game cause that sounds weird 20:15 Furey, I was trying to play 3.6 unspoiled, in order to get a bit of that feeling of adventure that I never had since I played 3.4.3 basically perma-spoiled. 20:15 It was literally the game before this one 20:15 as well as my current game 20:15 Loggers_VIII, what Umbire said. 20:15 !lastgame docpi 20:15 * docpi blinks 20:15 $lastgame docpi 20:15 Umbire: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/docpi/tnnt/dumplog/1700509096.tnnt.html 20:15 Different bot 20:15 Ah. 20:16 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:28246 20:16 ok then no nethackwiki, okay 20:16 croesus operates off of cash 20:16 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 612 points, 1336 turns, killed by a giant ant 20:16 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28260 20:16 -!- nurdglaw has joined #tnnt 20:16 Does "aggravate" affect mimics? 20:17 yes, it should 20:17 Well, Furey, as little wiki as possible. I am trying to find that special feeling of deep existential dfread that nethack offers to newbies. 20:17 i avoided tnnt spoilers my first year so i had plenyty of new fun with tnnt specific featres 20:17 Makes sense, Loggers_VIII. That makes a lot of sense. 20:17 [US] [D]: stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law), 201 points, 848 turns, killed by a small mimic 20:17 why, did you aggravate monsters? 20:17 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 775 points, 1218 turns, killed by a rothe 20:18 did you put on a mystery ring? 20:18 Well, Furey, I already know about the [redacted] on the devteam level, oh, and that there actually is a devteam level. 20:18 step 1: start a game. step 2: ??? step 3: oh crap it's 3am and I have to be up early for work 20:18 doc I'm pretty sure everyone is long "spoiled" ono that 20:19 And I heard talk of a deathmatch arena, and I know about the swap chest, of course.. 20:19 Also it was the literal second floor and I don't think he actually had time to inadvisably put on any unidentified stuff 20:19 deathmatch! we are thirsty for blood 20:19 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 20:19 there's other ways to aggravate monster 20:19 cursed invisibility potion, maybe 20:19 qt, I just entered that shop for the first time ever, and the level for the second time, and the shop was the second room I entered at all on that level, just movements, no other action at all. 20:20 i didn't even know there was a devteam level when i started 20:20 yeah that is weird 20:20 * docpi points at Loggers_VIII, nodding. 20:20 * Loggers_VIII uses aggravate monster on docpi 20:21 I mentioned spotting empty times on shop floors before. Like, yesterday or the day before. Others in this channel have, too. 20:22 a mystery 20:22 * docpi is wearing his aura of divine stoicism, and smiles at Loggers_VIII. 20:22 empty *tiles 20:22 Anyway, back to my WOW game for a bit. 20:22 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2821 20:22 In three minutes. bathroom break, brb. 20:23 if it's a marble wand, make sure you stone-to-flesh it. gotta get that meat stick! 20:23 or just wrest it for a meat stick 20:24 [US] arnibald (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon her by Set, on T:91875 20:24 -!- a1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:24 "Really attack the Lizard of Yendor?" 20:24 yes 20:24 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism by turning undead, on T:3101 20:24 this will be my lizard corpse for the rest of the game 20:25 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed rvcx's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:3130 20:25 [US] [D]: Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 69856 points, 13660 turns, killed by an air elemental, while dressing up 20:25 oops 20:25 did not think that would be death 20:25 rip 20:25 $lastgame rvcx 20:25 klepto: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rvcx/tnnt/dumplog/1700505123.tnnt.html 20:27 Right then. 20:27 Immediate karma lmao 20:27 Harassment by the Lizard of Yendor? 20:27 No but you absolutely do not want to anger an air elemental as a squishier neutral role 20:28 Ranger isn't squishy per se but it's no Valk 20:28 I was naked cause I was messin with a succubus and zapped create monster to get an easy monster to raise my level back up :p 20:28 A sucubus? 20:28 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a sasquatch, on T:3597 20:28 hhh. 20:28 Umbire: I didn't think they were that strong! (outisde their plane) 20:29 They've always been that strong, the planes just give them more HP 20:30 they are the fastest monster in the game and have a 1d10 attack 20:30 $lastgame Loggers 20:30 also you were asking for it even harder in that case lmao 20:30 xdminsy: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/tnnt/dumplog/1700489041.tnnt.html 20:30 just use tripe like a normal person 20:30 no 20:31 Next challenge: Dart trap with elf corpse, most probably tainted, certainly, even. Eat for sleep resistance, then pray for life saving? 20:31 messing with sex demons always manages to kill me in a new way 20:31 if you've just entered the level it won't be tainted yet 20:31 T:172, Loggers_VIII 20:31 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) has entered the Arena, on T:29205 20:31 [US] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law) found kitten, on T:909 20:31 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:32779 20:32 [US] k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful djinni, on T:3266 20:32 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:11093 20:32 * docpi ponders 20:32 I can always pray.. 20:32 [EU] nurdglaw (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24531 20:32 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 992 points, 3441 turns, killed by a bat 20:32 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful hill orc, on T:11109 20:32 not worth it 20:32 [US] stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:3549 20:32 Indeed, my god is displeased. 20:32 There will be other elf corpses 20:32 So, that was it? 20:33 you can't pray before T:300, and wishing reduces prayer timeout 20:33 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:33 Oh my god 20:33 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful steam vortex, on T:11134 20:33 Umbire, I had asked, no one answered. 20:33 so wait for an answer! 20:33 just wait a little longer :( 20:33 Yes, second lesson in the same game. How exciting! 20:34 ugh, do you have extra/full healing? 20:34 I have the spell. 20:34 Need the potion 20:34 that you can't even cast 20:34 Correct, Umbire. 20:35 try to wrest the wand of wishing it is your only hope 20:35 Okay. For what? potion of full healing? holy water? 20:35 either is fine 20:35 2 blessed potions of full healing 20:35 Wresting meant zapping, not applying the wand, right? 20:35 [US] Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:5534 20:35 yes 20:35 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed oh6 the Pioneer in a deathmatch, on T:29338 20:36 there's a very low chance you get it 20:36 but it's your only hope 20:36 rip 20:36 It was. 20:36 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 58 points, 185 turns, poisoned by a rotted elf corpse 20:36 That must have been the most YASD ever. Certainly mine. 20:36 Woo, what a ride. 20:36 rip 20:37 rip 20:37 Pretty much never eat a corpse that you didn't see die yourself 20:37 unless you have unihorn or some other cure 20:37 tjw, I knew what I was risking, and I expected to get food poisoning. I just did not know I could not safely pray before T:300. 20:37 i only do it if i literally just killed them, and partly due to conduct play i have generally vegan-leaning nethack food habits 20:38 idk if 300 is the exact number, but it's close to it 20:38 it is 20:38 Depending on prayer is dicey 20:38 [US] [D]: nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law), 721 points, 1397 turns, killed by a system shock 20:38 [US] N47H4k3R (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 20:38 it's the entire first primary hurdle for protection racket/pacifist/et. al. 20:38 ayway, wishing increases prayer timeout so you would have died still 20:38 *anyway 20:38 even if im not really playing conducts i tend to just eat corpses for intrinsics 20:38 ahhh, I did not know that, Loggers_VIII. 20:38 tjw: usually I get snoug 20:38 I have also died to not knowing that bit 20:38 enough food rations before long 20:39 But hey, whatever it takes for viewer ratings, eh? 20:39 * docpi smiles 20:39 yeah it was exciting if nothing else 20:39 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4879 20:39 [US] [D]: stoicjin (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3819 points, 4865 turns, killed by a mumak 20:39 tjw: if im playing explicitly vegan the odd early game food prayer is usually okay 20:39 and after sokoban there's rarely any shortage of food 20:39 I played a lot of con dro in evilhack and now I can almost 100% predict when I can pray :) 20:40 and you can actually pray a lot 20:40 [US] [D]: DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 11276 points, 5058 turns, killed by a sasquatch 20:40 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:39241 20:40 Prayer timeout after the initial one is random but skews close to... I wanna say 600-750? 20:40 more often than not 20:41 Yes one can safely pray after 101 turns when in major trouble and have positive alignment record. 20:41 But wish increase 150 turns to the timeout. 20:41 W 20:41 oops 20:43 ahh 20:43 Umbire 20:43 I see why the mimics are moving 20:43 Hm? 20:43 this is a bug for sure 20:44 if you change levels and enter a previously-visited level with a saved mimic on it, it can become uncloaked 20:45 Makes sense 20:46 ah... and due to a _different_ bug it only affects mimics that aren't disguised as a "strange object" 20:46 lol 20:46 And not knowing that, xdminsy, I assumed that I could safely pray for life saving on T:172. 20:47 So that means, qt, that I have actually found a previously unknown bug in nethack? 20:48 you and about half the channel population lmao 20:48 yeah 20:48 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "marker", on T:37451 20:48 YAY! 20:48 I am going to submit a PR to fix this in 3.7 20:48 it's actually 2 bugs that combine to make for this odd behavior 20:48 * docpi does his special global life achievement dance. 20:48 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:16104 20:48 What an exciting day! 20:49 Erm.  How is there a statue on top of a hole? 20:49 stagnate, I had that a few days ago, too. 20:49 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 109 points, 722 turns, killed by a falling rock 20:49 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:33829 20:49 oh well actually in 3.7 I guess I already fixed it by accident lol 20:49 It was pretty confusing.  "You descend the stairs.  Daisy whines.  The leash goes slack" 20:50 when I fixed that bug that meant shapeshifters maintain their mimic form after they finish eating a mimic 20:50 [US] Bartlem (Ran Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a hill orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:5502 20:50 there's still a latent bug here though 20:50 Well yes, Umbire, but it was my persistence that got qt to investigate it. 20:50 So I claim dibs on finding it. 20:52 [US] eitbo (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:66287 20:52 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) removed Grouchy's uncursed ring of teleport control from the swap chest, on T:21041 20:54 [US] [D]: N47H4k3R (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 297 points, 2374 turns, killed by a dwarf zombie 20:54 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:21158 20:54 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:39566 20:55 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:39569 20:55 [US] N47H4k3R (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 20:56 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:39607 20:56 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:106194 20:56 k 20:56 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:37914 20:56 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 381 points, 1420 turns, killed by a gnome lord 20:56 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:33934 20:57 * docpi hums the theme music from Master of Magic (1985, C64) 20:58 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided class c, on T:38024 20:59 -!- stagnate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-20 21:00 UTC: Games: 14, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 43937 turns, 95549 points. (21%Arc), 10d 02:59 remaining. 21:00 woo someone else genociding c, nice 21:01 haha the player is a pacifist at castle :D 21:01 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a cockatrice, on T:4582 21:01 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:39711 21:01 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:39712 21:01 [US] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:716 21:01 Nice Deka! go go go 21:02 if you attack something is pacifist conduct broken, or is it only kills? 21:02 Meanwhile I've just found a general store 11x5 with no mimic inside! 21:03 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "wand of death", on T:39773 21:03 [EU] AlbertB (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) genocided class m, on T:62163 21:03 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:16807 21:03 my nudist playthrough gave me new respect for difficulty of pacifist... I kept accidentally killing a few newts and grid bugs on the way to minetown (which thankfully don't give much XP) 21:05 HalNovek, mine has a large mimic that I just discovered, and barely escaped. My kitten stood in the door, and resisted swapping places with me for half a dozen turns. 21:06 I had to engrave a quick Elbereth to make the mimic flee, then the kitten eventually moved. 21:07 Playing as a tourist I doubt I can survive 1 hit, even from a small mimic, but I couldn't resist! :) 21:10 [US] Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:10512 21:10 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 8337 points, 7059 turns, killed by an air elemental 21:12 Umbire, docpi: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/pull/1149 21:12 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2250 points, 3633 turns, killed by a jaguar 21:12 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:22140 21:13 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11346 21:14 My own bug in nethack, yay! 21:15 * docpi feels proud 21:15 * docpi bragging rights 21:15 [US] N47H4k3R (Ran Elf Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a jackal corpse, on T:3279 21:15 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) removed ais523's uncursed ring of teleport control from the swap chest, on T:38575 21:16 * docpi biting coin like in that meme with the loser athlete standing way down the winners podium. 21:16 :) 21:16 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:18525 21:17 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) removed DekaFumoPuzzle's blessed +1 gray dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:5684 21:18 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5698 21:18 lol 21:19 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 2332 points, 3806 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 21:20 Oh great, arena... 21:20 Can I actually die in here? 21:21 Can I dip in Delphi? 21:21 -!- tinklebear has joined #tnnt 21:21 but of course you can! 21:21 Absolutely 21:21 do you have reflection and good AC? 21:21 I do 21:21 gdsm, reflection, +5 excal, -15 AC 21:21 then probably not. biggest fear would be cockatrice corpse as wielded weapon but that's rare 21:21 You can double back long as you've not crossed the threshold. 21:22 Reward is not worth the risk, usually. But the first time is fun! :) 21:22 I'll try it, worst that can happen is I die :_D 21:22 If they don't have anything dangerous you can just whack them to death 21:22 have fun! 21:23 Should I leave my bag outside? 21:23 No lmao why would you 21:23 it's heavy lol 21:23 You can drop it during the fight 21:23 drop the stuff you don't need in a fight 21:23 and again, you're free to just postpone until you feel you're ready 21:23 You don't have to force this 21:24 yeah 21:24 Not too many days left in the tourney 21:24 YOLO 21:24 lol 21:24 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:24 has anyone tried draining and taming the deathmatch NPCs? has no idea whether that even might work or is totally absurd 21:25 There's still like 9-10 days! 21:25 -!- Arseniy has joined #tnnt 21:25 Also you can't tame @ anyway, pretty sure 21:25 Or, human ones 21:25 yeah, can't tame humans and some others 21:25 I feel like all player monsters are also off-limits for taming by default 21:25 gotcha 21:25 maybe through untrapping but not sure 21:26 although that might just pacify IIRC 21:27 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:41465 21:27 [EU] [D]: tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 21272 points, 12207 turns, killed by an air elemental 21:28 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:17554 21:28 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:32069 21:30 PAcifies, and not 100% sure but I feel like that might be covered 21:30 I challenge hackemslashem, the Valkyrie 21:30 [US] martinp (Val Hum Fem Law) has entered the Arena, on T:31853 21:31 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:31 [US] Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law) found kitten, on T:12707 21:31 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 258 points, 516 turns, killed by a watchman (and 30 other games not reported) 21:32 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:32249 21:32 Turns out the helm I had way back in Orc Town was a HoB 21:33 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:41640 21:33 Oh FFS, he had a life saving medallion lol 21:33 was cursed so I figured it a HoOA at the time 21:33 martinp, you expected otherwise? 21:34 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:35 I'm screwed now 21:36 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:41710 21:36 camera? 21:36 martinp? 21:36 He just uses a unicorn horn 21:37 and I'm in a bear trap 21:37 oh 21:37 I've got like maybe one or two turns to not die 21:37 I can't teleport 21:38 are you wearing free action?  Can you throw / wield a paralysis potion at him? 21:38 Don't have either of those 21:38 maybe can jump out of the trap. not sure what the damage for that is, and your legs will be wounded for a looong time 21:38 so a desperate option (and I have not ever done it) 21:39 oh, wait. valkyrie, not knight 21:39 so you probably can't jump anyways 21:40 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 21:40 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:41763 21:41 You can teleport the player monster instead 21:41 Maybe you can try polyself. 21:41 I don't have a wand of tely, just scrolls 21:42 Could try poly self, that would bust my gdsm and cloak, right? 21:42 No, you will turn into a gray dragon. 21:42 uncontrolled will merge your dsm into your skin 21:42 on unpoly it might revert to plain old scales, I think 21:43 The cloak will break. 21:43 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 21:43 It reverts to scales, yes 21:43 [US] eitbo (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 robe", on T:66330 21:43 Worth a shot 21:44 [US] [A]: DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2017102 points, 41790 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DekaFumoPuzzle/tnnt/dumplog/1700346531.tnnt.html 21:44 breath won't do much on him probably 21:44 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 50 points, 277 turns, killed by a sewer rat 21:44 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 21:44 [US] martinp (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:31913 21:46 -!- MiaBF2 has joined #tnnt 21:46 You probably don't have much choice beyond fleeing or dying fighting now, 21:46 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22491 21:46 Hi, just got a funny message from a fountain. 21:46 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Client Quit] 21:46 -!- Elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 21:46 soon as you gtfo, you better eat something, martinp 21:47 yeah 21:47 Can I get back in there later? 21:47 Or will it lock up? 21:47 no. 21:47 yeah, portal will disappear 21:47 I think my game's f'ed if I run anyway 21:47 why? 21:47 lost lots of gear 21:47 You can go pick items then polyself again. 21:48 heh 21:48 The water is contaminated! 21:48 Perhaps it is runoff from the nearby Takis fuego farm. 21:48 I'm not sure if the enemy get your excalibur. 21:48 Alright, that was a fun run 21:48 Wanted to see if the poly trap would do anything to him 21:48 He had his own Excal 21:48 aw. you gave it a good shot, martinp 21:48 Thanks :) 21:48 Player monsters don't have artifacts 21:49 Oh 21:49 Maybe you forget to pickup weapons after polymorph lol. 21:49 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful housecat, on T:25222 21:49 He was wielding Excal?bur 21:49 late gg Deka, well done 21:49 You can die 4 times in dragon forms I think. 21:50 Thanks klepto 21:50 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:33019 21:50 [US] [D]: martinp (Val Hum Fem Law), 123726 points, 32015 turns, killed by a valkyrie called hackemslashem the Warrior 21:51 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:51 now we're one valk closer to the great valk. I assume that's your goal, yes? 21:51 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 21:51 MiaBF2 you drank from a fountain and lost some hitpoints https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Fountain 21:51 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:33030 21:52 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:33033 21:53 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 323 points, 2667 turns, killed by a poisonous corpse (and 21 other games not reported) 21:53 lol, goal was just to ascend any role once 21:53 We just have lawful human left right? 21:53 Actually that's the #2 goal 21:53 crunchubba I know I just wasn't aware that my special food item would be considered in the message. 21:53 #1 goal is just to play and have fun honestly 21:53 how do you free a friendly but not tame monster from a pit? 21:53 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:33133 21:54 does #untrap not work? 21:54 What message, MiaBF2? 21:54 [US] [D]: Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law), 20086 points, 15598 turns, killed by a soldier ant 21:54 yep. I'm going for wizard if this priest can ascend for the all roles 21:54 "Perhaps it is runoff from the nearby Takis fuego farm." 21:54 docpi: The water is contaminated! Perhaps it is runoff from the nearby Takis fuego farm. 21:54 The water is contaminated! 21:54 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) removed tjw's uncursed greased bag of holding from the swap chest, on T:22515 21:54 Perhaps it is runoff from the nearby Takis fuego farm. 21:54 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:25516 21:54 perhaps it is! 21:54 anyone else want to chime in about what they think the message was? 21:54 That's normal. 21:54 -!- efot67 has joined #tnnt 21:55 it would have, martinp 21:55 Umbire: nobody said it wasn't normal 21:55 The purple worm is too heavy for you to lift. 21:55 I’ll do valk again 21:55 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:27059 21:55 just that it was a funny message 21:55 ohhh 21:55 The nameable fruit gets used in a lot of messages, e.g. sickness, fruit juice, quaffing from nonmagic fountains. 21:55 It’ll be a less silly with excalibur 21:56 MiaBF2 was right that it was funny. I'm glad I don't live near a Takis fuego farm 21:56 if you live downwind of one all the spicy dust would probably get in your eyes and nostrils on windy days 21:56 purple worm in a pit in VOTD hallway. I gotta kill it or ... wait 21:56 [EU] lrrr (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11352 21:56 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 21:56 [US] [D]: sirteapot (Pri Hum Mal Law), 496 points, 2044 turns, killed by a giant bat 21:57 I've been itching to do a full poly run with unchanging so maybe i'll do that with my wizard 21:57 -!- efot has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:57 [AU] [D]: bleeko (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 289 points, 803 turns, killed by an orc zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze (and one other game not reported) 21:57 [US] mindcool (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed klepto's ghost, the former Adept, on T:3291 21:57 i thought a full poly run is when you tame 3 foocubi simultaneously 21:57 [US] [D]: OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 139 points, 1401 turns, killed by a wand 21:57 That sounds fun. Is that a setting you can start with? 21:58 nope 21:58 I wish, only with copious start scumming 21:58 Ah 21:58 what, polymorphing into another form and having unchanging? 21:58 you can in xNetHack 21:58 I think some variants allow you to start as any creature 21:58 start games like that. but I think they're excluded from the leaderboards etc 21:58 sort of like explore mode. because it can balance the game very differently 21:58 I've done perma-deaf bc it's easy but I don't think I'm cut out for perma hallu or the other harder ones 21:59 [EU] [D]: lrrr (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 15413 points, 11716 turns, killed by a blue jelly 21:59 anyways, have fun with your valk 21:59 [EU] fragmites (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:6889 22:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-20 22:00 UTC: Games: 66, Asc: 1, Scum: 52. 1d 11:27 gametime. (21%Wiz), 10d 01:59 remaining. 22:00 [US] [D]: mindcool (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 6597 points, 3433 turns, killed by brainlessness 22:01 [US] [D]: Evendur (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 140 points, 490 turns, killed by a jackal 22:01 [US] [D]: Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 226 points, 369 turns, killed by a water elemental 22:02 -!- dbanethacker has joined #tnnt 22:03 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:26484 22:03 Wished-up marker was 0:82 + the charges I used writing blessed ID 22:03 crunchbubba: looks like the purple worm is too heavy even with gauntlets of power 22:03 Neat, ring of levitation ID'd, that's my future "return to the Castle" problems solved 22:03 [US] [D]: Loggers (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 95 points, 257 turns, zapped himself with a wand 22:03 I'm guessing they move slowly and so will take a long time to escape, but he's blocking me 22:04 in my tests, they get out after a few turns 22:04 maybe this one is small 22:04 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:33482 22:05 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 25000 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:112227 22:06 [US] Evendur (Ran Orc Fem Cha) murdered Sirius, her faithful little dog, on T:553 22:06 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 418 points, 1863 turns, killed by a wererat 22:07 * tinklebear is touched by crunchbubba's delicate handling of inconvenient peaceful purple worms 22:07 [US] [D]: Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 294 points, 630 turns, killed by a gnome king 22:07 it was a pet, one of 3 22:07 :-D 22:07 [US] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9952 22:08 the other 2 are still with me. I left them too long trying to explore asmodeus 22:08 do you mind angering it, crunchbubba? 22:08 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:27570 22:09 I would rather tame it again, but will probably kill it eventually, or have the others kill it 22:09 [AU] [D]: bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law), 369 points, 954 turns, killed by a water demon 22:09 [US] [D]: Nesta (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 154 points, 417 turns, killed by a hobbit 22:09 * tinklebear hopes it doesn't come to that 22:09 they are handy. this might be my 2nd time wandering around with a bunch of purple worm pets 22:09 Burrrp! 22:09 first ever shop WoW. Chaotic gifts suck. I guess it's better to wish up frost brand in this case 22:10 I have killed ... MANY vault guards. or, my pets have 22:10 lol 22:10 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:7870 22:11 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "amulet of life saving", on T:7872 22:12 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:12 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 22:12 -!- rld has quit [Changing host] 22:12 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 22:12 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v rld] by ChanServ 22:13 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:7874 22:14 MKoT is an option along with the usual MR/reflection/etc. 22:14 And you're an elf, you can force Stormbringer anyway 22:15 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:32480 22:17 [US] Evendur (Ran Orc Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:820 22:19 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:106324 22:19 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:19 yeah I think I wished for mkot all three of my elf games it's about all there is 22:20 was really missing the Bat from Hell on the priest game tho 22:21 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:32834 22:22 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:31824 22:22 [US] qt (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:92206 22:22 whoops 22:23 Hey, that wasn't me, it was my purple worm. I did not authorize this operation 22:23 [US] [D]: Evendur (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 439 points, 1404 turns, killed by a giant bat 22:23 -!- jientho has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:24 🤔 22:24 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:27995 22:24 no more hot tips from captain obvious for you, qt 22:25 Honey I ate the oracle 22:25 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:40172 22:25 a gelcube ate my stash box >:/ 22:25 Oof that sucks 22:25 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40174 22:26 Uncharged wands of cancellations are safe for a bag of holding, right? I need a 100% certain answer. 22:26 yes, Umbire 22:26 they are safe 22:26 when uncharged 22:26 source: experience 22:27 [US] [D]: eitkrog (Sam Hum Mal Law), 93 points, 336 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 22:28 -!- Elenmirie_ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 22:29 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:26255 22:30 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) removed klepto's uncursed ring of teleport control from the swap chest, on T:26318 22:30 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:19622 22:30 karafruit yeah, I miss dnh artifacts. never got the bat of hell there even though I'm pretty sure it has it but lance of longinus is a beast 22:31 dnh does not have the bat from hell 22:32 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:72461 22:32 -!- charlie14690 has joined #tnnt 22:33 -!- HalNovek has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:33 [US] terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:14784 22:33 [EU] [D]: fragmites (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 16375 points, 9087 turns, poisoned by a quasit 22:33 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:25369 22:33 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1919 points, 5187 turns, killed by a warg 22:35 who is Longinus, and why did he call his spear a lance? 22:35 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:35 he pierced christ during His passion 22:36 -!- efot67 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:36 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:10011 22:36 and it's called that just because it's a traditional term I think, dating back to a time before wargaming nerds were obsessive about using the right names for polearms 22:36 lol 22:37 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2676 22:37 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:34476 22:38 those answers were so good that I'm going to postpone asking about green dragon crescent blade 22:38 pikes and polearms were pretty critical in tabletop battalion scale models, so it's understandable how much detail went into the various rule systems. 22:39 My first latin professor was deeply into simulation gaming. That's back when Avalon Hill games were still newly emerging. 22:39 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed mikew999's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:10283 22:39 * Nesta feels old 22:42 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1056 points, 2530 turns, killed by an explosion (and one other game not reported) 22:43 [US] rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:5 22:44 Noisytoot makes sense then that I never got it. there's a bunch of other 2x artifacts though 22:44 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 22:45 if I know the jump spell and I'm also wearing jumping boots, which one will #jump use? 22:45 Did rvcx just find another wand of wishing upon arrival in the Dungeon? 22:45 pretty sure the boots, qt 22:46 thanks, tinklebear 22:46 but don't rely on my fuzzy recollection 22:46 [US] qt (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 jumping boots", on T:92981 22:48 (but it would be super annoying if that were not the case) 22:48 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed bleeko's ghost, the former Canon, on T:34852 22:51 Remind me what htop is, again? 22:51 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:73698 22:51 "Htop is an ncursed-based process viewer similar to top, but it allows one to scroll the list vertically and horizontally to see all processes and their full command lines." 22:51 htop is an interative process viewer alternative to top(1) 22:51 another option is gtop 22:52 "ncursed" 22:53 [US] Furey (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) destroyed NoobDoNethack's ghost, the former Woman-at-arms, on T:33796 22:54 I must use top(1) wrong, because I use it to scroll horiz and vert, and view the full commandlines all the time 22:55 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 400 points, 1123 turns, killed by a rock mole (and 3 other games not reported) 22:56 [EU] [D]: fragmites (Mon Hum Fem Law), 2900 points, 2597 turns, killed by a black unicorn 22:57 damn I have identified every potion but one. I wonder what I'm missing 22:58 water? 22:58 oh, acid 22:58 got it 22:58 I've also identified every wand but the wand of nothing 22:59 no unknown unknowns! 23:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-20 23:00 UTC: Games: 20, Asc: 0, Scum: 6. 0d 05:05 gametime. (43%Wiz), 10d 00:59 remaining. 23:00 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "marker", on T:41715 23:01 that is to say, nothing is an unknown unknown, and yet... it is 23:01 not 23:01 just got engulfed by an air elemental w/o a way to scare 23:02 write Elbereth on his tongue 23:02 what's the best to deal with them? attack wands? I just have skill in aklys 23:02 lol what happens if you try that? 23:02 is there a funny message for it? 23:02 "you can't reach the floor" 23:02 [US] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:2851 23:03 unfortunately I can't tickle him until he lets me go 23:03 if you try while engulfed by a purple worm you get this: What would you write? "Jonah was here"? 23:03 -!- charlie14690 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:03 lol. perfect 23:03 the ? belongs inside the quotes i think i dont know old people always used to yell at me and tell me that 23:03 leather drum, klepto 23:03 oh you're right. thx 23:03 wait 23:03 beat that thing, and then beat it again 23:03 this is soko. wont that wake everything in the level? 23:04 likely so, yes 23:04 last floor specifically 23:04 [EU] [D]: lrrr (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 675 points, 5754 turns, killed by a giant mimic 23:04 Demo: there are different styles for how to use quotes, NetHack uses the euro style (which makes more sense anyway). american style has the punctuation within the quotes 23:04 any other way to get rid of him? they're not lightning resitant right? 23:05 apparently they are not resistant to anything but poison and stoning 23:05 ill try attack wands 23:05 although they are mindless 23:05 (so I wouldn't count on sleep doing much) 23:05 Sleep works but they have 30 MR iirc? 23:05 ah 23:06 wait really? nice 23:07 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:2317 23:07 actually how much does scaling MR affect monsters resisting sleep? I know it's not 30% resist 23:08 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:42067 23:08 it depends on their level or something 23:09 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:09 and for spell cast by you, I think your level as well 23:09 AE's aren't sleep resistant might be the best advice I've ever received 23:09 It would never have occurred to me. 23:09 in 3.7 whery they are also bugle resistant wand of death works nicely on them as well 23:10 -!- karafruit has joined #tnnt 23:10 hi karafruit, what's you're next insanely impossible exploit? 23:10 [US] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4013 23:10 acquiring Trollsbane and defeating Nesta >:D 23:11 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12540 23:11 for real tho idk 23:11 [US] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Nesta's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4087 23:12 [EU] AlbertB (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered her faithful Green-elf, on T:65767 23:12 points all around and curses getting my computer to stop crashing is apparently my next impossible exploit 23:13 -!- karafruit76 has joined #tnnt 23:13 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) removed efot's uncursed amulet of life saving from the swap chest, on T:32093 23:14 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:14 would like to get a lawful game in to get the "all alignments" trophy, and maybe get "all races"... or maybe I should just go for some silly conduct again? 23:14 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1568 points, 4128 turns, killed by a rope golem 23:15 -!- karafruit has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:16 [US] [D]: Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 374 points, 850 turns, killed by a coyote 23:16 -!- karafruit76 is now known as karafruit 23:16 [EU] AlbertB (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 616 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:65962 23:16 First hostile killed with cone of cold 23:17 Many more to go I hope 23:17 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) averted death (killed by a wolf), on T:3001 23:19 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:13256 23:19 *indecisives* 23:20 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 23:20 You have a little trouble lifting m - a blindfold. 23:20 Home 2 T:53812 1d:14h 23:20 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 3206 points, 6150 turns, killed by a crocodile 23:20 At least I reached minetown this time. First time in the tournament, I think. 23:21 karafruit, Batman conduct, perhaps? 23:21 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:27821 23:22 what's batman conduct? pacifism? 23:23 -!- MiaBF2 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:23 [US] Loggers (Ran Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1410 23:23 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) averted death (petrified by a cockatrice corpse), on T:75493 23:23 I spy with my little eye an egg being thrown at me 23:23 Oh, speak of the devil's 4th cousin 23:24 I just made it up on a whim, karafruit. :) Umm... pacifist permahallu, perhaps? 23:24 As a bat. 23:24 Oh, that does not work as a bat, but still. 23:24 permastun lol 23:24 You are correct, karafruit, permastun, not permahallu 23:24 I'm torn between trying a conduct (other than pacifism) or going for a streak (as opposed to going streaking, which was last game) 23:25 cat as a pet. 23:25 [US] peterg (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:3791 23:25 srs answer? whatever feels good. get the lawful asc, or continue the streak, or chase achievements. nudist for whole game was hard as hell and you deserve a fun one after that. 23:26 petless healer? 23:26 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) genocided electric eel, on T:33809 23:27 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "foo", on T:3625 23:27 yolo conduct: you must attack every hostile monster in sight, I wonder how long one can last like that 23:29 -!- a1 has joined #tnnt 23:29 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:29 Arseniy, to get technical, every zen playthrough has achieved that ;) 23:30 *dodges trollsbane* 23:30 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:31 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:75728 23:32 [AU] bleeko (Val Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 20 daggers on an altar, on T:3848 23:32 oh no, gruefood is coming for me 23:33 -!- a1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:33 [US] eitkrog (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4580 23:33 I think telepathy should count as seeing for this purpose, however putting on blindfold without it would let you suspend the conduct, and with that it might be realistic 23:34 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: spontiff] 23:35 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:75809 23:35 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:33947 23:39 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:40 ooh fun, starting con of 7, this'll go well 23:40 [EU] [D]: fragmites (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2535 points, 4291 turns, killed by an Elvenking 23:42 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:36599 23:43 hey, at least you got 24 hp at lvl 2, that's more than most 23:46 is mjollnir a better wish than grayswandir for a priest? 23:46 one of them is not of your alignment... 23:47 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:29526 23:47 You see here a bag called Holding. 23:47 Fourth one this game. 23:48 perfect time to get the "put a bag of holding into a bag of holding into a bag of holding into a bag of holding" achievement! :D 23:48 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:34515 23:48 Arseniy but it's not intelligent so it shouldn't be a problem right? I'm looking at the skills available to priests which... aren't great 23:49 yeah but it's nice not having to worry about the blast, you never know 23:49 [US] [D]: eitkrog (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4691 points, 5587 turns, killed by a rothe 23:49 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:36967 23:49 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:36969 23:50 true... I'll go with damage over no-blast though. ty for the input 23:50 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +3 mjollnir", on T:13855 23:50 I had lots of BoH in my game but not a single sack 23:51 yikes. cursed and -3 23:51 negative luck? 23:51 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:13869 23:51 [US] [D]: Bean (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 8868 points, 6450 turns, poisoned by a snake 23:51 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:13870 23:52 gotta be. I don't know how though. The uncursed luckstone defo didn't help 23:54 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:56 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:29631 23:56 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29632 23:58 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:58 huh. *looks at her four lamps* there's no way I'm *that* lucky, right?