00:00 DAILY STATS AT 2023-11-19 00:00 UTC: Games: 396, Asc: 15, Scum: 92. 1941223 turns, 43635737 points. 24d 08:19 gametime. (17%Hea), (43%Hum), (51%Neu), (55%Fem), 11d 23:59 remaining. 00:00 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a warhorse, on T:3360 00:00 neigh 00:00 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:8021 00:00 the 0.000000000093% chance of there being a glass wand of wishing on the other side of that door 00:00 why force bolt doors when you can save pw and kick them down? 00:00 and that is why you have asc streaks and I have endless boneses 00:01 Things that are not mutually exclusive: 00:01 Also I don't think Noisy has a streak yet. 00:01 roleplay requires my 20 Int character to now refrain from kicking anything. (Nesta, killed by kicking at empty space) 00:01 my normal start now is to explore every room on every level down to soko, one tap move at a time (to avoid getting oneshotted) 00:01 obviously this is very time consuming 00:02 I run a lot 00:02 and you still get 1-shotted by the thing that sneaks up on you while you're busy searching :/ 00:02 effective but time consuming 00:03 I've had a vanilla 2-streak and ndnh 3-streak, but not in TNNT 00:03 almost never one-move-at-a-time down a corridor, I think that's just make me more likely to bump into a floating eye 00:03 And because of that optional wish I made I can now save scrolls getting back down into Gehennom. Neat. 00:03 Noisytoot, neat. 00:03 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6910 00:03 a nonwiz can run because they have to melee anyway 00:03 My downfall is 99% simple distraction, and 1% over-optimisation, "one more hit", lets say. 00:04 Because it's a "tournament" I'm sure I have a lot more derring-do to my game than I'd be doing in private or a normal nao game 00:04 derring-do ? 00:05 more toward the leeroy end of the gameplay action spectrum? 00:05 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:46052 00:05 the difference between "one square at a time" and "g-running face first into anything and everything" 00:06 or worse, letting a keyboard repeat do its thing sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss 00:06 [US] [D]: elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2944 points, 4521 turns, killed by a white unicorn 00:06 i don't deserve my beef sticks and jpop! 00:06 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) has entered the Arena, on T:47893 00:07 Nesta: in my streak games I do both of those 00:07 [US] a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3220 00:07 [US] a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3220 00:07 those bottles where you push a little ball in to break the seal and the ball stays in the bottle. 00:07 I play about the same as I would otherwise more or less. There's a bit more attention towards achievements, yeah, but a significant number of those are either just "free" or else things I like trying to do anyway. 00:07 In fact, I almost lost the streak when a xorn walked in while I was nurse dancing, fortunately I was quick enough to react and lift my finger off the keyboard 00:07 [US] a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3250 00:08 matcha flavored Kit Kat bars 00:08 [US] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed spellbook of finger of death", on T:22531 00:08 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 00:09 [US] [D]: karafruit (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 1950 points, 4809 turns, killed by a killer bee, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:09 ahhh, so that amulet was _not_ reflection. noted. 00:09 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Umbire the Student of Waters in a deathmatch, on T:47929 00:09 speaking of g-move 00:09 grats kf 00:10 Well played, Spazm. How difficult did you find me? 00:11 fucking dammit, 2nd straight dl 10 soko 00:11 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1064 points, 1501 turns, killed by a master mind flayer 00:11 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:29533 00:11 ah F, gnome jumped ionto polytrap 00:11 *into 00:12 [US] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:22747 00:12 And became an mmf? 00:12 Classic. 00:12 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29544 00:12 Honestly most of my weight problems currently are me swapping 3 diff. primary longswords for two-weapon. 00:12 That said, if I can solve it without bagging one... 00:12 arahael: yup 00:12 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 00:13 improbable sequences of events are common because rng has a SoH 00:13 [US] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class R), on T:22751 00:13 Also without a touchstone I gotta get glass out of my bag somehow. 00:13 Umbire: drop it into lava, problem solved 00:13 I'm at my stash lmao. 00:13 [US] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:2174 00:14 I'm literally just prepping for the Tower - would still like a few potions to dilute, but I might find those on the way up. 00:14 [US] haldisse (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24033 00:14 There we go, full ID. 00:14 haha...the devil who bullwhipped my dagger away from me threw it back 00:17 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6486 00:17 [US] [D]: mindcool (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 302 points, 711 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 00:17 [US] jientho (Hea Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pony, on T:9029 00:18 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:28410 00:18 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:83595 00:18 [US] [D]: Cuchullain (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 8119 points, 4459 turns, killed by a leocrotta 00:19 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1247 points, 2270 turns, killed by a hill orc 00:20 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9237 00:21 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:26477 00:21 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:49035 00:21 Glass Menagerie done as a side effect lmao 00:23 an early blessed touchstone made a huge difference in one of my games. tiny advantage but it probably saved me 00:23 I'm stuck in mine's end. :( 00:24 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:28937 00:24 [US] [D]: haldisse (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 72664 points, 25225 turns, killed by a winged gargoyle 00:24 Genuinely a lot I can still bin, just need to do a think about it 00:24 [US] [D]: mindcool (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 624 points, 972 turns, killed by a dagger 00:25 k2 completed the DevTeam Quest. "hey mike, can i get a shirt?" "sure, bro, help yourself." 00:25 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 981 points, 1513 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 00:25 ... 00:26 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:47656 00:26 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:49541 00:27 hah 00:27 Mike Stephenson looks at you frostily. 00:27 "Thank you... I suppose. You have done us a service. But I think 00:27 you have done us a far greater disservice as well. Now that our 00:27 business is concluded, kindly remove yourself from our office." 00:28 what did you do? 00:28 devteam didnt like mine and ais523 recent discussion 00:28 i've been punished 00:28 no shirt for me 00:28 oh haha 00:28 point a wand of death at Stephenson and get that shirt even if it means walking over his dead body 00:28 I think we do that if you kill Izchak 00:28 oh i think i remember now 00:28 yeah 00:28 "Give me the shirt or I kill you" 00:29 [US] [D]: mindcool (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 154 points, 512 turns, killed by a small mimic 00:29 i bumped into izchak with stormbringer back in minetown 00:29 watch out, a dev wth stormbringer 00:29 [US] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:22863 00:30 -!- charlie14690 has joined #tnnt 00:30 i just unwield that thing at the stairs, too many bad bumps in my past 00:30 i was purposely killing all the shopkeeps in minetown for the zorkmids (buying protection from the priest), was in autopilot mode. i typically leave izchak alone 00:31 Lot more I can bin before worrying about my artifact longswords, but hmm. 00:31 ah well 00:31 God, 30+ scrolls of tele. 00:31 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:49806 00:31 prayed forgetting that i had just broken a mirror, now god displeased 00:31 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 664 points, 1006 turns, killed by a little dog 00:34 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) has entered the Arena, on T:29091 00:34 [EU] stenno (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a forest centaur), on T:6935 00:35 [US] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:22955 00:35 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:49990 00:35 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:49991 00:35 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed anselmus the Sorcerer in a deathmatch, on T:29116 00:36 gimmie that ring of levitation 00:36 [EU] stenno (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7047 00:36 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11240 00:39 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:28333 00:39 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:39 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful large cat, on T:12564 00:39 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:12564 00:41 Boo, I wanted to ascend with Vlad's weapon. 00:41 is it safe to pick-axe your way out of a shop? can you kick the door down to get out? 00:41 Ah well, Arthur'll enjoy it. 00:42 Nesta, both will potentially anger the shopkeeper unless you pay them for the damages. 00:42 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1699 00:42 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:48106 00:42 pickaxing down won't anger the shopkeeper, but they will take all your stuff 00:43 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:28513 00:43 couldn't have been a hardware store with a lock pick, no. 00:43 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:48129 00:44 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 640 points, 3793 turns, killed by a small mimic, while praying 00:44 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1932 00:45 woo 18 str from spinach 00:45 [US] [D]: karafruit (Val Hum Fem Law), 1053 points, 1565 turns, killed by a contaminated potion 00:45 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:85190 00:46 yesh 2nd pet to poly 00:47 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:4000 00:47 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pony, on T:4000 00:48 wtf lol 00:48 * Nesta begins to realize how bad the predicament might be. 00:48 Double system shock, eh? 00:48 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:15841 00:48 first zap 00:49 What do you want to wear? [ELMO or ?*] 00:49 hah 00:49 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:48229 00:51 i think my best chance of getting out of a shop is digging down. Next worst idea is quaffing a random potion in hopes it happens to be cursed gain level :/ 00:51 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:36117 00:51 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:85579 00:52 If I had a scroll of anything I could blank it and write tp, if there was a pot of h2o in this potion shop, which there isn't 00:53 28 +7 daggers (wielded)...I pity the fool 00:54 i could wait it out until a cat or dog gets generated in the room, and then get that pet to steal enough to have enough gold to pay off anger if I break down the door or dig out 00:54 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:48403 00:54 other than that i think i am skah roood 00:55 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) found kitten, on T:16755 00:55 level up in here enough to kill a shopkeeper with drain life 00:56 [US] [D]: Qwesti (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1498 points, 2737 turns, killed by a snake 01:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-19 01:00 UTC: Games: 14, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 55594 turns, 93904 points. (29%Dwa), 11d 22:59 remaining. 01:01 [US] [D]: karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 227 points, 1058 turns, killed by a coyote, while praying 01:02 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1431 points, 3838 turns, killed by a rothe 01:02 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6721 01:02 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:30492 01:03 if you dig through the floor, the shopkeeper gets angry and steals your entire inventory – so that probably isn't a solution either 01:03 why can't you leave? 01:04 Odds are I'll see a wand of speed monster soon in Rodney's zoo - otherwise it's hella improbable that I've never run into one all game. 01:04 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 141 points, 463 turns, killed by a boulder 01:04 [US] [D]: karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 34 points, 221 turns, killed by a kobold 01:05 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) removed karafruit's blessed +1 silver saber from the swap chest, on T:30569 01:07 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 197 points, 563 turns, killed by a giant rat 01:08 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Scuzzery's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:18538 01:11 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:13 H - an uncursed wand of speed monster (0:7). 01:14 Sometimes you just want it more. 01:15 Whole goddamn tower looks dark so far. 01:17 I know this motherfucker did not just turn from black dragon to ettin and then right back. 01:17 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:51892 01:20 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:36658 01:21 Shapeshifter dropped PFSC. Hilarious. 01:21 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:50561 01:21 [US] [D]: Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 467 points, 1348 turns, killed by a master mind flayer 01:22 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided class N, on T:30177 01:23 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:30180 01:24 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:7750 01:29 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:47130 01:29 not good 01:29 very not good 01:29 lol...the raven eats a minotaur corpse 01:30 demo showed up out of the blue in wizards tower 01:30 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20362 01:30 I do *not* want that raven flying above my head 01:31 klepto, ? 01:31 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:32224 01:32 Holy shit lenses protected me from blinding lightning lmao 01:32 klepto, do you have scare monster? 01:33 I was minding my own business clearing the tower when I see a purple ampersand port next to me and now I'm somewhat in a pickle 01:33 klepto: are you on the middle level of the tower? 01:33 someone died to Demogorgon there earlier, this may be bones 01:33 ye. since i'm in the tower will he port to the up or down stairs? 01:33 yep 01:33 middle of the tower and he insta warped to me so that's probably it 01:34 I think I know how this worked in 3.4 but I'm also moderately sure the mechanics have been changed, and I'm not sure how they work now 01:34 oh man...he might port to the up stairs outside the tower? 01:34 I have free action so I'm gonna try to not get stun locked and then scare monster. It's a tight corridor so it might just work 01:34 does scare monster even work on demon lords? 01:34 are there any viable sickness resistant poly forms? 01:35 I mean I sure hope so 01:35 ais523: yes 01:35 yes, I've dropped scare monster and held demo at bay 01:35 just looked it up, it works in 3.6 but not in 3.7 01:35 [US] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:23235 01:35 hmm maybe a ghoul resists sickness? 01:35 3.7 broke that 01:36 [US] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:23241 01:36 ghoul is the only polyform that resists sickness I think 01:36 (it was intentional, so not really "broke", but I consider it to be a bad change) 01:36 but it's pretty weak otehrwise 01:36 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:37394 01:36 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Ixoth, on T:21162 01:37 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21163 01:37 I think F-class monsters resist sickness too 01:37 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:31282 01:37 but lichen or molds are even worse than ghouls 01:38 killer bee: AC: -1 01:38 Demogorgon: AC: -8 01:38 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15366 01:38 this is a surprisingly small difference (and mostly speaks to bees being hard rather than Demogorgon being easy) 01:39 disenchanter: AC: -10 01:39 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed drum of earthquake", on T:53046 01:40 the wiki suggests wishing for a trice corpse in this situation, if you have MR, gloves and a spare wish 01:40 that seems plausible 01:40 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:53051 01:40 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:53052 01:40 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) wished for "+3 Blessed fixed boots of speed", on T:20769 01:41 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) averted death (poisoned by Demogorgon), on T:49794 01:41 something that really surprised me: newts are about twice as lethal as kobolds, in 3.7 01:41 klepto: ouch 01:41 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:53200 01:41 do you have a spare "oLS? did you take down Demo in the process? 01:41 [US] [D]: stoicjin (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 42 points, 165 turns, killed by a goblin 01:42 the only statistical advantage newts have over kobolds is that they're slightly harder to hit 01:42 and that seems to make all the damage, in the early game 01:42 I know that when playing wizard, I can get cornered in a corridor by the first jackal and miss it six times in a row quite frequently, although it normally doesn't do enough damage to actually kill 01:42 * make all the difference 01:43 spare ls, though now that you say... 01:43 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "partly eaten cockatrice corpse", on T:49846 01:43 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:49847 01:43 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:49850 01:44 I think that use of a wish was worth it, given the circumstances 01:44 klepto, that's a1 bones 01:44 We were just talking about it and yeah 01:44 That's about the smartest thing to do 01:44 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:9284 01:44 remembre to unwield the corpse before moving 01:44 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:53335 01:44 I'll stone to flesh him later as a maxed out alchemized ghoul. should be fun 01:44 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:53337 01:44 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:37788 01:45 I have another life saving on. No way I'm letting the tice do me in 01:45 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:3473 01:45 a while back I went to wield my trice corpse 01:45 but I hit the "e" instead of the "w" 01:45 efot: a common typo 01:45 yep 01:45 Also sike on the lenses, that was Sunsword 6_9 01:46 at least I had life saving 01:46 this is why I normally try to read a blessed ?oFD before entering Gehennom 01:46 to get a confirmation prompt for that 01:46 ahhh good idea 01:46 -!- stagnate has joined #tnnt 01:46 (it is kind-of crazy that you need to use a magical item to fix the interface…) 01:47 I'm pretty sure AceHack has an unconditional confirmation prompt for eating a trice corpse, and less sure (but still fairly confident) that I ported that to NH4 01:47 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:50013 01:47 well I got an achievement out of it 01:48 [US] [D]: stoicjin (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 316 points, 904 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 01:50 grrrrr. thought a rock mole was gonna be my way out of here but no 01:50 [US] [D]: DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 416163 points, 32961 turns, killed by a xorn, while paralyzed by a monster 01:51 perhaps i need to cultivate this rock mole; maybe he can dig faster than the shpkp can fix the wall 01:51 Woo, more cursed gain level 01:51 Also lmao rock moles are Very Slow. 01:52 Not saying you can't, you're just banking on that versus the 18 speed shopkeep doing repair every handful of turns or so. 01:52 no way lycanthropy could be a way out of it 01:52 Dwarf could be somewhat more reliable, but idk by how much. 01:52 [US] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:25279 01:54 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9904 01:55 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:23693 01:55 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 641 points, 920 turns, killed by a wand 01:55 beware, those bones files somehow have a jabberwock in them 01:56 rock mole did get me out! 01:57 -!- callforjudgement has joined #tnnt 01:57 -!- ais523 has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by callforjudgement))] 01:57 -!- callforjudgement is now known as ais523 01:58 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:33669 01:58 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33675 01:59 Nesta: why were you trapped? 01:59 tp into a locked shop 01:59 [US] [D]: WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 739720 points, 26116 turns, killed by brainlessness (and 6 other games not reported) 02:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-19 02:00 UTC: Games: 11, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 0d 14:14 gametime. (36%Wiz), 11d 21:59 remaining. 02:00 i knew it was a closed shop and I purposely ctrl-T'd on a tp trap to get in, and then remembered I have no plan for getting out 02:01 this is why I normally try to read a blessed ?oFD before entering Gehennom 02:01 doesn't that expire whenever you eat anything? 02:01 not if it's blessed I dont think 02:01 uncursed doesn't even give the intrinsic 02:01 gives you food appraisal 02:01 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:38809 02:02 nope you're right 02:02 just once 02:02 looks like it expires when it warns you 02:03 It only expires if you attempt to eat anything that would trip a warning 02:03 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:55504 02:03 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:55506 02:03 [US] [D]: stoicjin (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 405 points, 1497 turns, killed by a carnivorous bag 02:04 Noisytoot: only things that give a warning – the main issue there is acidic corpses 02:04 but by Gehennom you can avoid those just to keep the intrinsic 02:06 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:10667 02:06 $lastgame elron 02:06 nabru: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elron/tnnt/dumplog/1700350535.tnnt.html 02:07 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9459 02:07 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:24836 02:07 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1010 points, 1801 turns, killed by a jabberwock 02:08 -!- Waffa1 has joined #tnnt 02:09 -!- Waffa has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:09 -!- Waffa1 is now known as Waffa 02:10 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:55767 02:10 [US] [D]: stoicjin (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 317 points, 1689 turns, killed by a homunculus 02:12 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:60989 02:12 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:55830 02:12 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:51528 02:13 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) found kitten, on T:1467 02:17 [US] spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an iron golem named Brutal Ascension Factory", on T:55860 02:17 -!- callforjudgement has joined #tnnt 02:17 tfw that 500 wand is death and not wishing :( 02:18 [US] [A]: spazm (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1896586 points, 55861 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/spazm/tnnt/dumplog/1700262223.tnnt.html 02:19 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:19 * anselmus forwards the threat to arseniy's voicemail 02:19 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:31577 02:19 gg 02:20 The Wizard of Yendor laughs fiendishly. 02:20 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) destroyed rvcx the human, and former Conjurer, on T:11267 02:20 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:86543 02:20 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:64514 02:20 Last laugh's mine, bitch. 02:21 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:64525 02:21 go Umbire go 02:23 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:64588 02:25 ....huh, I've never seen a figurine of a paper golem before, that's a new one 02:25 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:31909 02:25 -!- callforjudgement is now known as ais523 02:26 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:52754 02:26 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:52754 02:26 Goddamn cockatrice spawncamped me and got my steed. 02:26 Good thing I learned stone to flesh. 02:27 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:11438 02:32 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:87498 02:36 [US] Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:10164 02:36 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:18363 02:36 -!- a1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:37 rats, ludios barracks has ZERO boxes/chests 02:41 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:53429 02:43 didn't even see the ant :-( 02:43 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4263 points, 10573 turns, killed by a giant ant (and 2 other games not reported) 02:44 * Nesta needs new glasses 02:49 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:64999 02:49 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:65000 02:50 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:63009 02:53 I'm about to die to a herd of soldier ants probably, don't feel too bad 02:53 have they spawned yet? or are you just predicting them? 02:53 oh they're biting the crap out of me 02:53 I could wand of death them but I'm not sure where my dog is and she might get hit 02:53 and there'd still be at least one left 02:54 [US] mrflash818 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:34122 02:54 > The death ray misses the soldier ant. --more-- 02:55 [US] [D]: karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 6184 points, 8845 turns, killed by a soldier ant 02:55 F 02:56 AC:3, so they are decent at dodging 02:57 [US] Evendur (Ran Orc Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:863 02:57 really, soldier ants are somewhat resistant to basically every escape item in the game, with the possible exception of teleport sources 02:57 could've tried my harp, wasn't sure if it was magic. Ah well, hindsight. 02:57 (and some levels are no-teleport, including early-ish levels like Sokoban) 02:57 well there was a wand of dig... under the ant that was killing me 02:57 which I could have either escaped with or elbereth'd with 02:58 ah, digging is basically a teleport source in effect 02:58 or, well, levport source 02:59 I mean they have 0 MR 02:59 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:59 Lot that can scare them off 03:00 could have used my wand of sleep but wasn't sure if it was empty 03:00 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3955 points, 5733 turns, killed by an ettin mummy 03:01 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:33476 03:02 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 helm of brilliance", on T:21378 03:03 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:33538 03:03 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33539 03:04 [US] [D]: allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 5368 points, 5919 turns, killed by a red naga 03:04 * anselmus had to use his death on 2 lieutenants that spawned in soko 03:04 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:34122 03:06 "You drop a blessed potion called striking"  There is a small chance that I might have made a typo when naming my objects. 03:06 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:30474 03:08 heh 03:09 AceHack autoIDs wands on engraving if they give a unique message 03:09 it didn't seem like interesting gameplay to force every player to prove, in every game, that they know that "a few ice cubes drop from the wand" implies it's a wand of cold 03:10 a couple other variants do that as well 03:10 nice little QoL bit 03:11 I think evilhack does that 03:12 Vanilla is super inconsistent about what it considers worthy of formal ID 03:13 like, how does “you shudder in dread” indicate a wand is undead turning but stuff like polymorph and cold wands don’t ID on engrave >;( 03:13 vanilla is developed by multiple developers, who don't always agree with each other 03:13 the technology of indicating the contents of an item with a label continues to confound the most brilliant minds of yendor 03:13 *>:( 03:13 I can understand polymorph, an unspoiled player might not make the connection 03:13 Neat, random 0:93 marker. 03:13 likewise, striking and magic missile 03:13 but some are really obvious, like cold 03:13 (meanwhile, fire *does* automatically ID itself) 03:14 slow monster/speed monster as well 03:14 there's also create monster, which auto-IDs itself but without a message 03:14 just to add to the confusion 03:14 My QoL would be better if I didn't have to save/record price information near the start of every game right before I die. 03:14 -!- blankman has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:15 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 03:15 auto price id would be awesome 03:15 auto price ID would be awesome but also be incredibly overpowered 03:16 oh, this reminds me – I have been considering having items classes "formally"/game-tracked ID as "very cheap", "cheap", "expensive", "very expensive" when you see their prices, either in vanilla or NH4, but the price bands would have to be coarser than in vanilla 03:16 I'd be fine if it just saved or noted the prices that I've seen. 03:16 -!- blankman has joined #tnnt 03:16 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:16 well i mean just type naming 03:16 for, e.g., 150/200 rings, where you can sometimes tell them apart and sometimes can't 03:16 "150 iron" etc 03:16 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of drain life", on T:54430 03:17 I know not formal ID, but I think price ID is fine as it is, in the “tedious to do, so not that many people do it” camp 03:17 I don't understand.  What would 'cheap' mean when you already see the price? 03:17 I was thinking that all scrolls cheaper than 100 would be "very cheap", 100 "cheap", 200 "expensive", 300 "very expensive" 03:17 stagnate: in the case of scrolls, that it was base 100 03:17 it works great for scrolls 03:17 but less well for potions and rings 03:17 but the point would be to save having to type-name them 03:18 If that becomes a thing I’d like it to be an option 03:18 also I think most players who ascend regularly do price ID at least of scrolls (where it's most important) 03:18 because it’s only really useful for players who would price ID already 03:18 you do get a little advantage from price IDing potions, but it is probably not worth it 03:18 So if you saw it being sold it would show up as "cheap scroll called XXX" so you would "know" that it's a 100 zorkmid scroll?   That could do it. 03:19 stagnate: right, or took it into a shop that buys it 03:19 the advantage of price IDing potions is that the cheap ones are all blanking fodder, so you can get more water without using formal ID 03:19 more expensive than that it’s meh 03:20 I'm not sure I agree – the useful potions are scattered across the price bands 03:21 (except arguably for 50 – one see invis potion is useful but you can get it other ways, but the problem is that base 50 potions don't blank properly with cancellation) 03:21 yeah full healing is 200 03:21 booze, fruit juice, see invis and sickness are all worthless and the same cheap price, those are the ones I’m talking about 03:22 it can tip the scale after you've narrowed a few things down 03:22 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:54644 03:22 you're literally just saving keystrokes not making the game easier 03:22 I aspire to eliminate price-id from my routine, but I'm not there yet 03:23 does count as kill if you kill the double trouble rodney? 03:23 anselmus, uh yeah 03:23 [US] [D]: Evendur (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 881 points, 3266 turns, killed by a white unicorn 03:23 i'm saying it's a good thing 03:24 vanilla should get shopkeeper services 03:24 so you can pay shopkeepers to ID items 03:24 price-IDing is something I choose not to do, and if it’s implemented to automatically name my items I’d like it to be an option so my inventory doesn’t get cluttered 03:24 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed ring of teleport control", on T:35555 03:24 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) wished for "2 Blessed scrolls of charging", on T:31706 03:25 anselmus, for some people there's no real difference. 03:25 I disagree myself but it's a belief. 03:25 @loggers_viii how do you function? 03:25 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) wished for "Blessed ring of levitation", on T:31707 03:25 I used to be skeptical on shopkeeper services, but I kind of think they would be cool in vanilla. Adds flavor and utility 03:25 Or do you just mean that you don't name them (other than ones that you consider important)? 03:25 Temple of Apshai (IMO the first roguelike) had a fun merchant haggling minigame 03:25 don't you still do things like id a bag by process of elimination? 03:25 Like, I don’t price ID 03:26 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:54680 03:26 an adventurer wouldn't necessarily know there's only 4 types 03:26 ! the price ID discussion 03:26 Yes, if there’s one of two items that has to be something, like lamp. But no consumabls 03:26 *consumables 03:26 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:23975 03:26 How do you figure out how to use scrolls without hosing yourself?  Or you are saying that you like the challenge of maybe reading a scroll of punishment? 03:27 read it near a nymph 03:27 I don't like price ID'ing but I do it because I want my stuff to be ID'ed. I don't read un-ID'ed scrolls. 03:27 I just use test stuff throughout basically the whole game 03:28 If I learned how to fancy price ID, I think my winrate would improve drastically and to be totally honest I don’t know if I want that 03:28 I will quantity-ID teleport sometimes because that one is so important 03:28 as an early-game escape 03:28 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:31869 03:28 Another thing we like to forget when discussing and/or deifying the challenge of NetHack is that there's so many aspects of the difficulty that are """opt-in""" but not like, options. 03:28 (and also the most frequently generated scroll, don't believe people who tell you it's identify) 03:28 I have to look at the wiki page to make sure I don't make any mistakes when price ID'ing 03:28 That can be set in a file and such. 03:28 Y'know? 03:28 teleportation is only more common than identify because it has special methods of generation 03:29 NetHack has too many options – generally I prefer to get rid of an option if people are more likely to accidentally set it to the wrong value (for them) than intentionally set it to a non-default value 03:29 lol deifying NetHack’s difficulty 03:29 [US] [D]: karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 524 points, 2517 turns, killed by a hill orc 03:29 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible high priestess of Moloch, on T:54824 03:29 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:54825 03:29 generally I prefer conducts to be automatically tracked rather than options 03:29 !rnd shopping adventure 03:29 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:24121 03:29 e.g. for nudist I would prefer if you unequpiped your starting items on the D:1 upstairs and it counted (or even anywhere on D:1 and it counted), rather than having to set an option for it 03:29 It's also the only scroll that can appear not in rooms naturally. If you enter a level with monster detection and nobones and know that a monster never stepped in a location in a corridor and find a scroll there, it's guaranteed to be teleportation. 03:30 Noisytoot: well, that and scrolls of missing code, but the latter are obvious 03:30 Perhaps one of my contentious opinions is that NetHack is not a particularly hard game after you learn what you’re looking at and how to move around. It just hides behind a lot of knowledge you have to internalize 03:30 @Loggers_VIII: I don't think that's even contentious, although it might not be expressed perfectly 03:30 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) removed haldisse's ring of conflict from the swap chest, on T:32028 03:30 yeah there’s probably a better way to say it 03:31 although, a counterargument is that there are plenty of skilled players who do have trouble winning, especially in 3.6 or with weaker roles 03:31 * tinklebear thought that was put quite well actually 03:31 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:54861 03:31 also vanilla should get invweight/showweight 03:31 the way I explain it is that in NetHack, you only need to know a small proportion of game mechanics and strategy to be able to win 03:31 but, there is *so much* available mechanics and strategy that a small proportion is still quite large in absolute terms 03:32 Well, I think it is a difficult game, still. But not much more difficult than some of the roguelite contemporaries 03:32 options are necessary because some people hate UI improvements 03:33 also yes show weight in vanilla would be very nice 03:33 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided class R, on T:90499 03:33 NetHack has much more slack than many traditional roguelikes 03:33 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:90500 03:33 in that you can play suboptimally, either strategically or tactically, and still win 03:33 why doesn't nh4's paranoid liquids take into account water walking boots? 03:33 roguelites frequently have *infinite* strategic slack, though 03:34 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:34748 03:34 how so? 03:34 Noisytoot: I think it does if they're formally IDed? not sure 03:34 [US] [D]: arkanoid (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 816 points, 3151 turns, killed by a giant bat 03:34 you can win with zero items and a starting character just by being good at dodging 03:34 i will perfect price id and become the world's best player! 03:34 Ah, yeah. But that’s because their difficulty is fundamentally different from NetHack’s 03:34 I think I still got prompted when wearing ID'ed water walking boots, but maybe they weren't actually ID'ed. I had the identify spell so I'm quite sure I did ID them. 03:34 this isn't true of all games in the genre, but it's true of a majority, and I mentally consider them a different genre from the ones where character stats do matter 03:35 buy my patented flashcards, anselmus 03:35 incidentally, I consider the occasional grid-based turn-based "roguelike" to be a roguelite because it can be won with an unupgraded starting character without using items, purely by being good at (turn-based) dodging 03:35 Crypt of the Necrodancer in Bard mode, for example 03:35 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:22634 03:35  woah... 9x6 ring shop... 03:36 i'm still working on dice counting, adapted from rain man 03:36 lol 03:37 at the other end of the spectrum, there are games like FTL where, despite not obviously being turn-based, strategy is a primary factor and tactics aren't able to overcome a bad strategy 03:37 can you win NetHack without picking up any items except invocation items and the amulet if you do RNG manipulation? 03:37 and I consider those true roguelikes even if they have real-time elements (as long as you can pause), although generally consider that they would be better if modified to be turn-based 03:37 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:55560 03:37 If you can play a perfect game of craps with every backline odds bet made according to probability, you can get very close to 49.997 odds vs the house. 03:38 Noisytoot: no, you can't cross the moat in the bottom level of Rodney's 03:38 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) wished for "2 Blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:32576 03:38 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:32577 03:38 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:32577 03:38 right, challenge in roguelikes at its highest level is mitigating as much damage as possible. Challenge in most roguelites when taken to its highest level is taking NO damage whatsoever 03:38 or, hmm, maybe you can actually, would need a white dragon 03:38 wizards can start with a wand of cold 03:38 knigh can jump the moat 03:38 and an umber hulk to dig the wall 03:38 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:55622 03:38 oh, the wall, right 03:38 the problem is digging the wall in addition to crossing the moat 03:39 how do you pick up the saddle? 03:39 Cone of cold, and wand of digging on wizard 03:39 actually, one big problem would be crossing the fire traps surrounding the upstairs out of the Sanctum 03:39 quantum mechanics can solve that one in theory 03:39 wizards starting with jumping? 03:39 but the RNG manipulation would be terrible 03:39 [US] [D]: schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 1091 points, 3722 turns, killed by an Uruk-hai 03:40 or a ring of fire resistance 03:40 Okay, use white dragon to freeze moat, dig in with digging wand and start with jumping spell 03:40 are you allowed to get intrinsics from corpses (etc.)? I'm assuming no, because that's another way to permanently upgrade your character 03:40 I don’t think you could win, though 03:40 Vlad could also potentially be a problem with starting weaponry, although I think you can RNG-manipulate enough to get through his regeneration 03:40 One hit and it’s over, basically 03:40 with enough RNG manipulation you never get hit 03:41 Aren’t some monsters guaranteed to hit you? With starting AC 03:41 does "never pick up" allow eating corpses off ground? 03:42 hunt down that polykit lol 03:42 I think you can do it for nutrition but not for intrinsics 03:42 if so, eat some chameleons 03:42 Furey that changes stats 03:42 @Loggers_VIII: normal attacks miss on a natural 20, I am not sure about certain special attacks though (green dragon breath especially may be a problem) 03:42 oh word 03:43 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:35429 03:43 -!- a1 has joined #tnnt 03:44 ooh, here's one – how do you kill/bypass Medusa? I suspect it's likely that there are viable strategies but can't think of one offhand 03:44 Unrelated but it’d be cool Nazgûl’s breath attack was like green dragon breath, so it lingered in a cloud 03:44 Since it’s described as gas 03:44 i didn't see "no changing stats", i saw "can you win NetHack without picking up any items except invocation items and the amulet if you do RNG manipulation?" 03:44 ais523 dig past? 03:44 how do you dig when playing inventoriless/polymorphless? 03:44 Wizard can start with wand of dig, no? 03:44 I guess polytraps are technically allowed by the rules 03:45 some roles can start with a blindfold (wizard, samurai) 03:45 but even if you do dig down, how do you do Medusa on the way *up*? 03:45 arch starts with pickaxe 03:45 starting blindfold would work if we're allowing starting inventory 03:45 Oh I thought the thing was “win exactly how you start” 03:46 you can't win exactly how you start because you need XL14 for the quest 03:46 in 3.7 can kill quest leader 03:46 okay let’s say this is 3.7 03:46 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:33183 03:46 starting pet can do some work too 03:46 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) destroyed WizzyTheWeird's ghost, the former Enchanter, on T:56559 03:46 could use jump for medusa if you are doing rng abuse 03:47 or polyself with a polytrap 03:47 if you allow polytraps I would be shocked if it were impossible 03:47 polymorph makes the whole game possible however you want with rng manip 03:47 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:37061 03:48 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:35854 03:48 double juiblex, nice 03:49 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) wished for "Blessed magic marker", on T:33243 03:49 -!- a1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:51 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:57339 03:51 doesn’t wishing “marker” give you random BUC? 03:52 [US] [D]: Kewl (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3149 points, 4119 turns, killed by an invisible black unicorn 03:52 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:57546 03:52 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:57547 03:52 I think random BUC for marker is always uncursesd 03:52 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) wished for "+3 Blessed fixed gauntlets of power", on T:33295 03:52 natural cursed markers only happen in situations that override BUC, like fake bones piles 03:53 ooh, I just had a fun game mode idea 03:54 you can't recover HP, but every time you run out of HP you polymorph into a (full-health) polyform of your choice, but can't use the same one twice (and probably can't pick monsters you haven't seen/defeated/eaten) 03:54 and you try to win before running out of polyforms 03:54 I suspect it isn't very difficult, but am not sure 03:55 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:36473 03:56 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) removed klepto's blessed scroll of scare monster from the swap chest, on T:24878 03:56 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a brown mold), on T:1922 03:57 no free action this game. I've polypiled like mad and it hasn't materialized. 03:57 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 829 points, 3562 turns, killed by an earth elemental of Thoth, while praying 03:57 heading to the end game... I guess I should blow a wish on it? 03:57 Maybe wait until you need it?  :D 03:57 would be bananas to try to ascend without free action? 03:58 Pretty sure that I haven't had free action for my ascensions.  maybe on one of them. 03:58 surprisingly haven't needed it yet. 03:58 how many polyforms are there? 03:58 I usually ascend without free action 03:58 ugh what a waste of an early AoLS 03:58 you can definitely ascend without free action 03:58 TIL! 03:58 amulet of life saving makes for a perfectly viable alternative 03:58 I've never not had it on. 03:58 (in that it unparalyzes you at teh end of the turn if it lifesaves you) 03:58 ais523, Un has something like that as Heaven or Hell 03:58 HoH is kind-of different 03:58 everything has 1hp, but you have some number of charges of intrinsic lifesaving 03:58 Also I'm starting to realize just how oppressive the force is. 03:58 port saving grace to tnnt 03:58 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:36625 03:58 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:36626 03:59 marginally advantageous to have uncursed marker because some of the most useful end-game scrolls need to be cursed 03:59 and several minor but hard to avoid damage sources are removed, in order to make it fair 03:59 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 1313 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:37790 03:59 I usually hit death with a potion of paralysis and then whack him. 03:59 my opinion on free action is basically "if you find it and ID it, may as well wear it as long as you don't need the ring slot for anything else" 03:59 what if you miss? what if he only gets paralyzed one turn? 03:59 there are rings that are likely more helpful, such as increase damage 04:00 Not sure I'm comfortable without it. 04:00 Yeah Umbire I didn't care so much my first ascension it didn't block me but after my second I started keeping my gain level potions to curse rather than to, uh, gain levels. 04:00 Nesta: gold detection, teleport, are there others? 04:00 I'll bum around 'nom and see if one eventually turns up. 04:00 death only has like 55 health so you can usually kill him from range or in like 2 hits of melee if you really need to 04:00 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:6020 04:00 (also I normally use confused gold detection rather than cursed gold detection, unholy water can be hard to find) 04:00 geno 04:00 ah yes 04:00 amulet of life saving is one of the best items in the game. outside of brainlessness deaths, any other death wouldnt have occurred if you had another aols on 04:01 Demo1: it works against most brainlessness deaths too, assuming you're talking about the player's rather than the character's 04:01 stagnate, I mean that's still not immune to the force either. 04:01 amulet of prot against YASD 04:01 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:01 As I'm being reminded. 04:01 brainlessness the death not the player action/ state i play in most of the time 04:01 if you die from sliming are you still slimed after aols saves you? 04:01 It's not immune but it definitely eases the pain especially on the no tele/no dig levels. 04:02 yeah but being a slime its just a polyform isnt it 04:02 Actually I don't even know if it's immune or not. 04:02 brainlessness is the only thing that bypasses aols because ???? i dont know why. the dt should fix this. everyone should fix this. it makes no sense 04:02 I think the unlifesaveable deaths are, what, int drain below 3 (brainlessness), levport to or above level 0, self-genocide, the first hit of a god trying to kill you (the one that happens before the wide-angle disintegration beam) 04:02 ah yeah i forgot about levelport 04:02 doesn't the amulet save you but doesn't fix the proximate cause of death so you just die again? 04:02 oh, and panic (and in TNNT the fake panic that happens when you kill a devteam member) 04:02 Nesta: that's the flavour 04:03 fried to a crisp cant be lifesaved? what 04:03 never tried. 04:03 AOLS probably wont save you if you fall in water or lava 04:03 Oh holy shit 04:03 Master lich my worm ate had an athame 04:03 Demo1: you get lifesaved but get hit by the WADB immediately afterwards 04:03 yeah but what if you have disint res? 04:03 so lifesaving only helps if you're disint-resistnat 04:04 it does work if you have disint res, though 04:04 ah ok 04:04 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 520 points, 2199 turns, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 04:04 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:22283 04:04 It's a think that's only ever talked up as something to do for bragging rights. 04:04 thing* 04:04 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:36928 04:05 getting disint res before shock res is possible, but in practice pretty rare 04:05 self genocide, kinda makes sense no life saving, levelport to 0, very bad mechanic, remove. brainlessness somehow cant be saved my aols but such worse mutilations can? just make it so you feel like a scarecreow like when forcing a live save in wizard mode. 04:05 levport to 0 seems really like some dev wanted to make sure that escaping was difficult 04:06 (no idea which one, it far predates my involvement on the devteam) 04:06 none of the 0 and negative levelport options should exist and it should just fail nicely 04:06 levport above 0 is interesting – it makes sense that you escape, but what prevents you just re-entering the dungeon? 04:06 (using either lifesaving or levitation/flying to survive the fall) 04:06 other than the levport to heaven, it makes sense that that's unrecoverable 04:07 levelport above zero is funny 04:08 there are some mechanics that seem to exist to be arbitrarily cruel to unspoiled players, like levport to 0 04:08 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:57991 04:08 your entire body can be digested by a trapper and somehow lifesaving can revive you, but a little bit too much of your brain going to a flayer and somehow it cant??? 04:09 and some mechanics that seem to exist to be arbitrarily cruel to previous-version-spoiled players trying exploits, like the Yendorian Fuel Tax (although that one is unfair to unspoiled players too) 04:09 iyeah its kinda weird that AOLS doesnt restore your stats 04:09 Teleporting to 0 gives a confirmation prompt ais 04:09 it does 04:09 teleporting above 0 doesn't, though 04:09 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:58017 04:09 -!- cathartes has joined #tnnt 04:10 hell yeah lets got klepto 04:10 yeah but I mean. Even unspoiled doing that you oughta be aware you’re doing something a little risky 04:10 it reminds me of the later days of 3.4.3, where some variants did arbitrarily ridiculous things to players who tried to rename high priests 04:10 up to and including instadeath, I think 04:10 hahaha 04:11 grunthack :( 04:11 Eugh. 04:12 one game that I have been playing is Netrunner (the card game), it's a game with two players playing againt each other; the online simulators don't enforce pauses at all possible moments, so sometimes if you think the opponent might want to take an action at a given point you have to add a pause yourself and say "action?" 04:12 [US] stagnate (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:6474 04:12 and this is one of the scariest things in the game – "why am I being given a confirmation prompt right now" 04:12 I think the player should be rewarded for behavior like trying to abuse astral call bug, even if it is patched 04:12 their prize, a yafm 04:12 (and of course, because this is Netrunner you can do it as a bluff) 04:12 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Famine (5 times), on T:58122 04:13 Dude. 04:13 Another fucking lich athame. 04:13 damn 04:13 i've never seen one 04:14 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:9264 04:14 I think I've seen them in the past, but I stopped caring about athames when I decided to go permanently Elberethless 04:14 only from player characters in the astral plane 04:14 oh my lord.  I've been trying to figure out where the store is on this level.  I already looted it :( I think I need to go to sleep 04:14 I've just gotten two straight killing liches. 04:14 (this may help explain the drop in my asc rate, although I think there are probably additional reasons for that) 04:14 arch liches can spawn with an artifact athame 04:14 very very very rarely 04:14 I know what Magicbane is, Demo. 04:14 Also have I seriously not genocided anything this game? 04:14 LOL 04:14 Holy shit I haven't. 04:15 ...guess I'll stick with it! 04:15 nice, got my str restored on prayer 04:15 are you laready on the way up? 04:15 anselmus: were you drained enough to be able to do that intentionally? 04:15 yeah 4 point loss from poison 04:15 Alright, made it to Castle. 04:15 last time I tried to use the "eat bees and pray" method to get poison res, I unfortunately got it too quickly and wasn't able to use prayer to restore the strength 04:16 …also I like the double meaning in that method name 04:16 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) averted death (killed by Famine), on T:58211 04:16 it doesn't work if you have pr? 04:17 [US] klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:58283 04:17 it doesn't work if you're down less than 4 points of str 04:17 and once you get PR you don't lose any more for eating bees 04:17 In 3.4.3 finding an athame could be the turning point where you become invincible 04:17 I don't understand how klepto is taking this much damage at AC -48 04:17 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:2385 04:18 already used one amulet of full healing (has another equipped) and is almost dead already 04:18 that method seems a little too risky for me 04:18 wow got down to 38 04:18 I get used to half phys sometimes 04:18 but it's the correct altar, so 04:18 [US] [A]: klepto (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 2580104 points, 58319 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/klepto/tnnt/dumplog/1700284484.tnnt.html 04:18 could be walking around with no str and no pr 04:18 and am confused when I get battered without it 04:18 that was pure chaos 04:19 gg 04:19 anselmus: maybe – I am not sure how much I like it 04:19 another nice run klepto 04:19 sometimes it feels like the chance of it backfiring is less than the chance of poison instadeath if you don't try 04:19 unfortunately i couldn't take a1 with me though i tried 04:20 maybe it's because i play with pets so usually don't take hits from poisonous monsters 04:20 oh I see, it was Standard Astral Strategy with no real weapon 04:20 ais523 famine was doing crazy amounts of damage somehow. it wasn't the angels, not with reflection that's for sure 04:20 so purely teleport/death/running through crowds 04:21 Famine does 8d8 twice 04:21 congrats klepto! 04:21 so 36 per hit, that's going to be pretty good at getting through a big AC score 04:21 (average 36, not exactly 36) 04:21 and yeah, riders are some of the most physically damaging monsters in the game 04:21 angels do their damage spread over many smaller hits, so AC works better 04:22 true that. unfortunately I just couldn't figure out how to perma kill the riders otherwise this would have been a lot easier 04:22 hmm the armor is all enchanted but not the 2x dmg sword 04:22 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:35442 04:22 yep. spent it all on stormy which I de-enchanted for rodney. 04:22 [US] Bean (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35451 04:22 didn't even properly drain him though so sub-par scroll use at best 04:23 ah 04:23 I'm glad rodney got put in his place 04:23 I imagine it kind of like shrinking him and making him a little guy and putting him in a jar and laughing at him 04:23 i've never tried level draining rodney, it sounds funny 04:23 he got the usual death treatment once he got too annoying. I was counting on life drain to work for some reason 04:23 klepto: huh, did you not have a luck item in main inventory? 04:23 oh, Really Cool Shirt 04:23 who needs a luck stone when you have a really cool shirt? 04:24 ye 04:24 also took demogorgon with me 04:24 silly me, I was only looking for items that exist in vanilla 04:24 little polymorphed his statue into a python 04:25 does level draining rodney limit his spell pool like it would a normal caster? 04:25 how of ted do people actually do the deathmatch in TNNT 04:25 it was kinda fun to play a bit messier, though I would've paid dearly without the life saving 04:25 I did the deathmatch once, and decided not to try again 04:26 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:67006 04:26 yeah i did it once and it was just super tedious 04:26 I had an easy opponent and an ascension-ready character and it was not actually difficult, but took ages 04:26 if you drain to zero he loses spellcasting 04:26 and a more difficult opponent could have been a problem 04:26 yeah the one i ran into wielded a cursed sling on turn 1 so they were bricked out of damaging me 04:27 and then i just swung at them for like 8000 turns 04:27 deathmatch can be either very easy or absolutely grueling. Had an arch dual wielding highly enchanted silver sabers once. normally they use their uni horns but I think the player stashed it before ascending 04:27 [US] [D]: spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu), 17302 points, 11031 turns, petrified by a cockatrice 04:27 I was binged, whom by? 04:27 deathmatch has inspired me to wonder whether improving the ACs of late-game monsters might be an improvement 04:27 so that the player has to brute force for nat 20s to hit them? 04:28 Demo1: no, but so that hit chance actually matters 04:28 Ah, that was my fifth time. 04:28 I think its actually a nat 0 in practice but whatever 04:28 you would probably need to nerf the effect of luck on hit chance to make it balanceable 04:28 nat 1 04:28 -!- stagnate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:28 at that point I'd just wand of tele them and run away 04:28 or, hmm, is it 1…20 or 0…19? I know the lower numbers are more likely to hit, it's the other way round from D&D 04:29 I thought it was probably a !rn2(20) 04:29 so a nat 0 04:29 but I don't know 04:29 fwiw I suspect that arc was actually dual-wielding a single silver saber twice – monster two-weaponing is a bit weird 04:30 /* Work out the armor class differential */ 04:30 tmp = AC_VALUE(u.uac) + 10; /* tmp ~= 0 - 20 */ 04:30 oh, oh no 04:30 (that's not the hit chance roll – but it doesn't match actual gameplay in practice very well) 04:31 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful little dog, on T:12563 04:31 unless AC_VALUE is doing something weird 04:31 makes a lot of sense. at +7 silver saber can do some valk damage numbers 04:31 #define AC_VALUE(AC) ((AC) >= 0 ? (AC) : -rnd(-(AC))) 04:32 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:37904 04:32 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:37906 04:32 that only matters if AC is negative, and my guess is that it postdates the comment and was an attempt to make late-game monsters hit at all 04:32 yeah the player gets +10 ac (the bad kind of +) for some reason 04:32 monsters don't get this 04:33 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12778 04:34 OK, so I checked the code 04:34 a monster always hits on a natural 1 04:34 but the dice is not always a d20 04:35 the first attack in the monster's attack sequence uses a d20, but the second uses a d21, the third a d22, and so on 04:35 whats with the player effective +10 ac when monsters don't have that? 04:35 didn't know that, weird 04:36 As was said, it's so late game monsters can hit at all and you aren't functionally invincible. 04:36 it's not +10, it's +10 + the monster's level (which is added in the next line) 04:36 so I guess "10 + monster's level" is the monster's basic hit chance 04:36 ah, that is one interpretation 04:36 thanks 04:37 Hmm 04:37 There's an ice box under Orcish Town with a chickatrice corpse in it 04:37 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) removed pinball's uncursed +0 set of silver dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:6810 04:37 This could be fun. 04:37 Unfortunately no one had a pickaxe 04:37 a 04:37 or, hmm, the code is comparing your AC + 10 + the monster's level to the d20 roll 04:37 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6820 04:37 although, that doesn't explain why monsters are even able to miss early in the game against unarmored players 04:38 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:95214 04:38 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:95216 04:39 oh, wiztesting explains that they aren't 04:39 and I just never noticed before 04:39 this newt is hitting my unarmored level 30 wizmode wizard every time 04:39 sounds right 04:39 did u.uac used to start at 0 instead of 10? 04:39 and this is a holdover to adjust it? 04:39 I don't think so 04:40 woah I just had a door resist 12 consecutive times 04:40 what's the best way to get that door resist achievement? I forget which stats are relevant for opening doors 04:40 bad luck 04:40 NetHack has a tendency to mix random stats into calculations rather than just using one like D&D does 04:40 ais523, Str + Dex + Con 04:40 Well, Planes ahoy. 04:40 I thought it might be str + dex + con 04:40 And basically do it as early as possible 04:40 I thought luck played in 04:40 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:67380 04:40 that makes no sense, but that in turn makes it more likely to be correct 04:40 ohhhh right I did just lose a bunch of luck to failing to convert an altar 04:41 I think it uses rnl 04:41 idk 04:41 if (rnl(20) < (ACURRSTR + ACURR(A_DEX) + ACURR(A_CON)) / 3) { /* open the door */ } 04:42 So it does when you're opening a door only. 04:42 oh thx a bunch DekaFumoPuzzle! I didn't see the messages at first it's very early here lol 04:42 also rnl is weird, it's bascially rnl - luck if the argument is 16 or more, or rnl-luck/3 if the argument is 15 or less 04:43 that's a huge discontinuity 04:43 * basically rn2-luck 04:43 One. 04:45 if your luck is less than minus (str+dex+con)/3, opening a door is basically impossible (2% chance that luck is ignored for one rnl roll, and you can't make the target otherwise) 04:45 tomorrow I might look into the history of that +10 a bit more and see if it is the monster base to hit, or a mistake, or something else 04:45 but, normally that average is somewhere around 10 or 11 for weak characters, so you would need to be very unlucky 04:46 Demo1: I have a suspicion that the hit chance formula is horribly broken 04:46 I knew for year sit was broken in the late game 04:46 but recent playtesting has made me suspect it's broken in the early game too 04:47 Bleah, sticking with 6 04:48 yeah... oh well 04:48 Umbire: why not enchant your +4 saber instead of Excalibur? 04:48 1.3d appears to not have that +10, so I'll do a bit of looking tomorrow for when it was introduced 04:49 Considered it, decided against. 04:49 Also, Demo - either you or ais523 should stick that on the AC page. I think it was something I meant to have addressed but fell to the wayside. 04:50 if you're twoweaponing, it's +damage anyway. 04:50 but with your +4 ring of increase damage I guess you don't need more damage 04:50 Two. 04:52 [US] [D]: bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1493 points, 3755 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 04:53 Umbire: I was looking at 3.7, for the wiki you'd have to look at 3.6 04:53 I see 04:53 and the hit chance code has changed recently due to the thrown-vorpal thing 04:53 And here goes everything, pet-wise. 04:53 although I suspect this particular formula hasn't changed in terms of what is calculated 04:54 (the code itself might or might not have changed) 04:54 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 7914 points, 8124 turns, killed by a soldier ant 04:56 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:937 04:58 -!- callforjudgement has joined #tnnt 04:58 -!- ais523 has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by callforjudgement))] 04:58 -!- callforjudgement is now known as ais523 04:59 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "+2 greased fixed blessed grey dragon scale mail", on T:14303 05:01 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 331 points, 1295 turns, killed by the wrath of Thoth 05:02 cathartes: Jesus christ, too well hidden for me. Thanks for the solid. 05:02 your purple worm was on it when you zapped detection 05:03 Fuck me lmao 05:03 What are the odds 05:04 Fuck, I forgot to off a fire E on the way 05:04 it's probably more likely than the time I stepped on a levport trap without TC and landed exactly on my stash (and ended up autopicking up most of it) 05:05 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 325 points, 1172 turns, killed by an iguana 05:06 -!- charlie14690 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:07 [US] [D]: NoobDoNethack (Val Hum Fem Law), 216 points, 731 turns, killed by a wand 05:08 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:7697 05:08 [US] [D]: klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1339 points, 2251 turns, killed by a killer bee, while fainted from lack of food 05:09 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:4989 05:10 Last one. 05:13 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:67880 05:13 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2520 points, 2088 turns, killed by a rothe 05:14 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:2252 05:15 -!- a1 has joined #tnnt 05:18 wooo I survived a clump of soldier ants! 05:18 [US] [A]: Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2288864 points, 67928 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Umbire/tnnt/dumplog/1699121549.tnnt.html 05:18 gg Umbire 05:18 I survived the whole game. 05:18 gg 05:18 gg Umbire! 05:18 grats 05:18 gg 05:18 Lot more room for error on the ascension run than you think sometimes. 05:19 -!- klepto has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:19 Be nice if Plane of Water harassment wasn't explicitly designed to kill off almost all my pets. 05:19 Goddamn green slime, I ask you. 05:19 Elberethless and genocideless though, that's something. 05:20 -!- klepto has joined #tnnt 05:20 that's a lot of wishes you got 05:20 Start next game, immediately pick up a wand that would've killed streak for sure. 05:20 grats Umbire 05:20 Oh, smoky was extra healing. 05:21 nice 05:21 Speaking of streak killers that wasn't worth the untrap and was basically a flex lmao 05:21 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1918 points, 3169 turns, killed by a gnome lord 05:21 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 05:21 Lemme decompress a little, make some dinner. 05:23 …why do master liches (specifically master liches, not any of the other three Ls) have a 1/91 chance of generating with a wand of nothing 05:23 this is one of the most oddly specific monster starting inventory chances I've seen 05:23 You tell me. 05:23 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed klepto's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1005 05:23 Double lich athames, should've named 'em. 05:23 jack of all liches master of the wand of nothing 05:24 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:13584 05:24 so arch-liches have a chance of a quarterstaff? maybe a wand of nothing is like a small quarterstaff 05:24 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 218 points, 875 turns, killed by a gnome zombie 05:24 [US] [D]: schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 14676 points, 13695 turns, killed by a killer bee, while frozen by a monster's gaze 05:24 could've named them magicbane jr and magicbane jr the second 05:25 it's not like the liches use quarterstaves as weapons, they probably help with the magic or something 05:25 gg Umbire 05:26 I wonder if spazm's ever online so I can ask about my deathmatch performance. 05:26 oh hey a1. that's one hell of a bones you left 05:27 My knight ascended with a bunch of cursed scrolls of create monster in open inventory. I wonder if that will be fun for deathmatch players. 05:27 Early mines... 05:27 ...was just scrolling up to see if anyone had hit it yet. Nicely done and good use of a wish 05:27 cathartes, you monster. 05:27 Yeah klepto hit it minutes after. 05:27 oof 05:28 Early holy water, cool. 05:28 i feel I did right by you. took demo to astral and everything. couldn't get turn undead in time to take you along as well unfortunately 05:29 Almost ragdolled by a zombie, cool. 05:29 [US] [D]: anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 14984 points, 8282 turns, poisoned by an orcish arrow 05:29 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 515 points, 2759 turns, killed by a little dog 05:33 thank you. my bones were erased with honor good sir. 05:34 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 368 points, 654 turns, killed by a homunculus 05:35 I really want this Tourist to be my lucky 7. 05:37 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3553 points, 1805 turns, killed by a soldier ant 05:37 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) removed tjw's uncursed bag of holding from the swap chest, on T:16880 05:37 it's been fun. wish you all the best of luck with your games 05:37 klepto got out out that bad situation between turns 49847 and 49850. one wish and two nasty & destroyed. 05:37 someday i hope to have 4 turns like that 05:38 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16888 05:38 poor yeenoghu just wanted to help out his bro but got caught in the cross fire 05:38 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 340 points, 1105 turns, killed by a killer bee 05:39 k, bye 05:39 -!- klepto has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:41 Uh oh, bones floor. 05:41 Threw hands with someone's cat. 05:41 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:42197 05:41 And then it killed Andrio's ghost. 05:41 "killed by the wrath of Thoth" 05:41 To smithereens, you say... 05:42 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:609 05:43 [US] NoobDoNethack (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3585 05:45 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1292 05:45 There we go, in the box now, may you rest in peace. 05:46 [US] NoobDoNethack (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:3674 05:46 Fuck it, wearing the MR cloak. 05:47 [US] [D]: bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 349 points, 1052 turns, killed by a giant rat 05:48 And then immediately after I spot +2 leather in the shop. 05:48 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 736 points, 2204 turns, killed by a dagger 05:48 Good thing I had holy water. 05:49 ...and then mithril. Lol. Lmao 05:49 And then two levels off wand of cold shots that killed a large mimic I bumped into and a giant mimic I didn't notice 05:50 +1 mithril, whee. 05:56 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1425 05:58 [US] NoobDoNethack (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4075 05:59 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2886 points, 3358 turns, killed by strangulation 06:00 Current Day as of 2023-11-19 06:00 UTC: Games: 64, Asc: 3, Scum: 2. 434737 turns, 8120244 points. 4d 09:34 gametime. (32%Wiz), (48%Hum), (50%Neu), (55%Mal), 11d 17:59 remaining. 06:02 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 06:03 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:18230 06:04 "...so it all started when this nymph stole my amulet of reflection..." 06:04 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1425 points, 2656 turns, killed by a rock piercer 06:05 Did it actually, though? 06:06 well ok, you're right, it started earlier when this OTHER nymph stole a DIFFERENT amulet of reflection and I just gave up... 06:06 I thought you were talking about Andrio's bones lmao 06:06 oh no I'm talking about my own game rn 06:06 cat finally took down the nymph 06:07 when my only ranged attacks are wands of sleep and spells of magic missile and the nymph puts on an amulet of reflection, things get scary 06:07 [EU] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) murdered Poes, her faithful kitten, on T:938 06:08 that was an ACCIDENT 06:08 I didn't see the cat was just around the corner when I stumbled into the gas spore 06:09 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:50302 06:10 -!- callforjudgement has joined #tnnt 06:10 -!- ais523 has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by callforjudgement))] 06:10 -!- callforjudgement is now known as ais523 06:12 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 716 points, 2140 turns, killed by a kobold, while frozen by a monster's gaze 06:13 -!- callforjudgement has joined #tnnt 06:14 -!- ais523 is now known as Guest3017 06:14 -!- Guest3017 has quit [Killed (sodium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 06:14 -!- callforjudgement is now known as ais523 06:14 So, gentletournamenters, I assume that it is not possible to complete the achievement "Curse the Darkness" with an already identified potion of oil in starting inventory, right? 06:15 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a shade), on T:50332 06:15 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:43559 06:15 I guess you could deliberately suffer amnesia to un-identify it. 06:15 Oh, it is still possible! 06:15 * docpi hmms 06:15 Hmm.. 06:16 time to go find a mind flayer and get your brain sucked 06:16 Fun fact, I got nailed while in the Sanctum and took my sweet time re-IDing shit 06:17 one of my early TNNT ascensions (my first I think) I used a ring of sustain ability to keep me safe from mind flayers 06:17 I take notes, so it's a bit easier to re-ID stuff, but still annoying to individually go through everything and type-name them. 06:17 which only sort of worked 06:17 I ended up having to explore Gehennom twice, the lost object IDs didn't matter so much though 06:18 and there were enough levels still remembered to make it fast to find the stairs 06:18 I got nailed on that one asc to end the tourney last year 06:18 you can also engrave the coordinates of the upstair on the downstair 06:19 Imagine me still going genocideless after the former 06:19 I enjoy the process of deduction from half-remembered fragments, and getting it wrong once in a while 06:20 (wrt mind-flayer accidents) 06:20 also, re-exploration is fun. 06:21 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:50569 06:21 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a floating eye, on T:8409 06:22 I don't like it honestly, but I can usually deal at the point when it happens 06:22 it would be easier, if the game didn't spoil everything with auto-id 06:23 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 131 points, 411 turns, killed by a fox 06:24 like, if every time you teleport you mentally say "GNIK SISI VLE!" or whatever, then you're likely to remember post-flaying 06:24 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:24 Now I know what makes for dull deaths early on in TNNT/3.6.7: Miserable to-hit ratio. 06:25 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 06:25 foxes are dirty 06:25 nethack foxes, at least 06:25 Smoky is sickness, that ain't great 06:25 blessed sickness ain't that bad 06:27 [US] jonosmalls88 (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:2490 06:29 [US] [D]: jonosmalls88 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2054 points, 2580 turns, killed by a magic missile, while praying 06:30 -!- callforjudgement has joined #tnnt 06:30 [EU] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3680 06:31 good in a way, sickness is really common and you usually go thru a lot of potions before you get that wish 06:31 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1432 points, 3860 turns, killed by a hobgoblin 06:31 I haven't even seen a smoky potion in my current game. Probably polymorph or levitation or something weird. 06:32 -!- oh6 has joined #tnnt 06:32 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:32 -!- callforjudgement is now known as ais523 06:32 [US] [D]: jonosmalls88 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 205 points, 359 turns, killed by a falling rock 06:32 -!- oh7 has joined #tnnt 06:33 Had fun exacting revenge, ais523? 06:35 i'm gonna somehow get a wiz killed after starting with a /wod 06:36 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:22215 06:36 -!- karafruit has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:36 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:36 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 06:38 docpi: on what? 06:39 Your nickname "callforjudgement". I thought it meant some grave (oi!) consequence for a monster in your current game. 06:40 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 06:40 -!- a1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:41 docpi: this has been my alt nick for ages, it originated from a nomic 06:41 but it often ends up meaning something relevant in other contexts too 06:42 …although it's been a while since my Internet connection has been sufficiently bad for the alt nick to come up this often, it's been bad, but not quite that bad 06:42 * docpi has to look up "nomic" 06:43 nomic starts out as a game where changing the rules is a move in the game – but you can change *anything* 06:43 So it calls for judgment on the connection. 06:43 including the nature of the nomic as a game 06:43 Calvinball! 06:43 -!- Waffa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:43 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 483 points, 2936 turns, killed by an orc zombie 06:44 calvinball is often compared to nomic but it's not quite the same, generally in nomic the other players have to explicitly agree with the changes or they don't happen (although there are no certainties in nomic due to the way that anything can change) 06:44 ais523, ha! 06:44 Is that from _Godel, Escher, Bach_ ? 06:45 EGB, rather? Hofstadter 06:45 [US] [D]: jonosmalls88 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 568 points, 1423 turns, killed by a giant mimic 06:45 Nesta: it didn't originate there but Hofstadter is responsible for popularising it 06:45 Also, I still need to know how to adjust the color scheme in my games. I use a classic terminal layout, which is light grey on dark grey. 06:45 although I think it might have been in one of his other books rather than GEB specifically 06:46 This makes black glyphs, and unlit corridors, difficult to see. 06:46 docpi: NetHack normally sends the colors in vague terms – "red", "green", "blue" – so you need to go into your terminal settings to change how it interprets those 06:46 * docpi hands Nesta an umlaut: ö 06:47 anyway, I started using callforjudgement as a nick in 2009, and was playing a couple of nomics which changed the notion of a game to "players can win but the game still continues" 06:47 so much easier on a mobile device than a pc keyboard 06:47 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:23395 06:47 and those nomics are both *still going* and I was playing one of them earlier today (although, the playerlists have changed frequently over time) 06:47 i don't even have a number pad 06:47 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:44553 06:48 although one of them is more recognisably still a game than the other, which turned into some sort of hybrid between a game and a government simulation sandbox 06:51 [EU] [D]: spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 331 points, 966 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 06:52 Love it when a plan comes together. 06:53 Umbire, nomichack? 06:53 [US] Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:1952 06:54 huh, that isn't the worst nomic/X hybrid idea I've ever heard 06:54 ais523, nomicnomic? 06:54 especially if you keep the nomic elements light, and just allow players to, e.g., slightly change the stats of the monster that killed them when they die 06:55 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:55 there have been nomics where the players were other nomics, but there aren't enough active nomics atm to sustain things like that – there was a nomic craze in the 2000s but it's mostly died down 06:56 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) became Odin's Envoy of Balance, on T:45084 07:00 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:50951 07:02 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:23823 07:05 -!- charlie14690 has joined #tnnt 07:05 Is it just me, or does prayer work differently in vanilla (ie, tnnt) compared to evilhack? 07:05 Seems that prayer is soemhow more reliable. 07:06 Yo Andrio, I got your bones right here! 07:07 Classic variant paranoia. 07:07 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1408 points, 2690 turns, killed by a killer bee 07:07 Umbire: Is it, though? 07:08 [US] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Andrio's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2250 07:08 Woohoo 07:08 Pretty sure. 07:09 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 40330 points, 11097 turns, killed by a wand 07:09 * docpi golf claps gruefood 07:09 by "reliable" do you mean "deterministic timeout" or do you mean "probability of rewards?" 07:09 Nesta: Likilihood of getting killed whilst praying. 07:09 Well, *not* getting killed, rather. 07:10 if it's a successful prayer you don't (or at least shouldn't) get killed during it 07:11 I think that's different to evil, then. 07:11 ...no, that's literally the same in Evil. 07:11 If you get killed during the prayer it clearly wasn't gonna succeed. 07:11 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 420 points, 1661 turns, killed by a giant bat 07:11 you may be doing something in evil that makes prayers more likely to be unsuccessful 07:11 And you do play Monk a lot. 07:12 docpi, heya. 07:12 e.g. losing luck or lots of alignment 07:12 Not going to be alignment, lately, but hmm... Luck could explain it I guess. 07:12 I thought they were successful prayers. 07:13 Again: If you get killed during the prayer it clearly wasn't gonna succeed. 07:13 And monks get dinged hard for breaking diet restrictions, among other things. 07:13 Andrio, your cat Aja is safe and sound. 07:13 Umbire: I'll definitely have to revisit that, then! 07:14 I feel like the messages you got should have indicated as much 07:14 Umbire: It's plausible I may have misinterpreted them, I'll have to bring it up next time it happens. 07:15 -!- kewldewd has joined #tnnt 07:16 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 58 points, 283 turns, killed by a jackal 07:16 [US] [D]: OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 8 points, 328 turns, killed by a kobold 07:16 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:46580 07:16 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:46581 07:18 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 137 points, 989 turns, killed by a kobold, while fainted from lack of food 07:18 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:19 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:24388 07:21 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 313 points, 991 turns, killed by a gnome lord 07:24 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) has entered the Arena, on T:56109 07:25 -!- Arseniy has joined #tnnt 07:25 [US] kewldewd (Bar Orc Mal Cha) removed k2's uncursed +0 set of silver dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:10244 07:26 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2481 07:26 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:27 The wiki does not describe all the game options for TNNT/3.6.7. Where can I read about them _except_ for the source? 07:28 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Scuzzery the Student of Waters in a deathmatch, on T:56147 07:29 Weirdly, I notice that my games are longer and better when I'm well rested. Shocking. 07:30 gogo kewldewd 07:30 I could blitz Mines End but I don't feel like losing to random spiked pits yet. 07:31 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:11811 07:32 I swear to god, every fucking time I eat a pudding/cube/whatever, I get shock resistance from it first. 07:32 Lucky you, Umbire. 07:32 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 07:33 And got poison res from a mold, neat. 07:33 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:11927 07:34 Still don't think I can justify a Mines End blitz. 07:34 Yet. 07:35 Sickness being smoky sucks for quaffing purposes and for purposes of my darts. 07:36 [US] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1626 07:36 Andrios, I suppose your stuff to have been quite loaded before you died? Like, +823 staff andsuch? 07:37 Also with them precious rings? 07:37 another starting marker 07:37 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 07:38 Fun fact, anselmus: I never survived long enough to actually put a starting marker to use. 07:38 lol 07:38 And I had many! 07:38 anselmus: can't find the dam luckstone lol 07:39 Waiter: "How did you find your steak, sir?" - Guest: "By chance. It was hidden under a salad leaf." 07:40 * docpi tumdedums 07:40 Tum de dum.. 07:40 kewldewd: ne 07:40 Are we playing item radar service now? 07:41 Really nothing is physically stopping me but I don't wanna be That Guy putting in junk. Should ID some more at least. 07:41 you can donate the good stuff at the valley? 07:42 Andrio, I am going to take a chance, and wear your cursed cloak of magic resistance from bones 07:42 anselmus, is the swap chest in the Mines going to turn into a trashcan now? 07:42 they're shared now so same content 07:43 you can only take once but donate to both 07:43 I just donate sum guantlets of pwr on the us server for u new Vals 07:44 anselmus, when were they separated? 07:44 no, bad grammar. 07:44 anselmus, when were they joined? 07:45 #lo 07:45 i'm not even sure if they were ever separate 07:45 never used swap much before 07:45 -!- oh6 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:45 yeah, I think they always had the same content 07:46 otherwise Mines swapchest would basically never have anything good 07:48 arthur: I got your bones now. 07:49 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12694 07:50 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 07:50 DL5 Oracle, hm 07:50 (How) can i change my terminal size without using the curses interface? 07:51 [US] martinp (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:25647 07:51 [US] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed arthur's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2992 07:51 There you go, arthur. 07:51 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:3794 07:51 Tit for tad 07:54 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:22950 07:55 Is it safe to kick the sinks in the devteam's office? 07:56 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1381 points, 3086 turns, killed by a water demon 07:57 Quaffed a fountain in the hope to uncurse my cloak. 07:57 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1350 07:57 Andrio, your cursed armor, and staff, were not enhanced. 07:58 You're supposed to dip to uncurse, not quaff 07:58 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 07:59 Aprat from being nice to ithers, cathartes, what would the motivation be to donate a second time, or more than one item? 08:00 Okay, Umbire, noted. Since I was wearing my cloak, I would have had to dip all of myself into the fountain. La Dolce Vita reference, eh? 08:01 ...no. 08:01 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 08:01 bbl 08:02 [EU] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:2213 08:03 Will the devteam get pissed if I loot their PEBCAK chest and candy and sit on their throne and kick their sinks and stuff? 08:03 Just don't attack them 08:03 Everything else is fair game 08:03 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 72 points, 161 turns, killed by overexertion 08:04 Ah, but it was worth it for the achievement. 08:04 * docpi will always remember the foocubus 08:04 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 858 points, 2536 turns, killed by a gnome lord 08:04 Thanks 08:07 Oh eat my ass, blue jelly right in one of my boulder paths. 08:07 Well, Umbire, if you insist.. 08:08 How's about you just stop, huh 08:08 Of course, Umbire, I'll just let you alone with the blue jelly.. 08:08 lol 08:08 * docpi smiles deviously 08:10 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 639 points, 2650 turns, killed by a rothe 08:10 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 08:11 "A potlatch involves giving away or destroying wealth or valuable items in order to demonstrate a leader's wealth and power" 08:12 "Why should I put more than one potion of levitation or whatever in teh swap chest?" 08:13 i've had the potlatch thought too 08:13 it's not a pure potlatch because there's a leaderboard, but the idea does apply 08:14 [EU] DeVoid (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13354 08:14 [EU] [D]: stenno (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 13756 points, 7359 turns, killed by a gray unicorn 08:14 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:14 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 26 points, 263 turns, killed by an orcish dagger 08:15 a wiz starts with comr so no reason not to donate it 08:15 Yes, I was about to die, me scrub. 08:15 -!- charlie14690 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:16 i see that ytf does lead in most donations 08:17 for we are merciful 08:17 :D 08:17 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:15926 08:19 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1860 points, 4470 turns, killed by a jaguar 08:21 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:836 08:22 I think I get were-foo'd a lot more in 3.6 08:23 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:13676 08:24 -!- kewldewd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:25 -!- HalNovek has joined #tnnt 08:25 Nesta, with most players being nerds, that is a welcomed blessing. 08:26 Oh, Nesta, _were_-fooed. Never mind. 08:26 everything's going along just fine and then outta nowhere "you feel feverish!" 08:27 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) removed elenmirie's uncursed amulet of reflection from the swap chest, on T:16488 08:27 Bottom room of the zoo 08:27 Let's see what the prize is 08:28 Nesta, I think it came from all that were-fooing you have experienced. 08:28 you can thank 3.6's wonderful mc3 nerfing for that 08:29 I think MC3 was both too powerful and common 08:29 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 08:30 single poisoned arrow from nowhere one shotted my last wiz on castle run 08:30 thought negative ac was supposed to protect from arrow, nooo 08:31 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:26374 08:31 Cold res check 08:32 Also it's not absolute protection, esp. not with the mechanism discussed earlier 08:32 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:26379 08:32 anselmus: MC3 wouldn't have protected you anyway 08:33 just remember someone saying -1 or better makes you virtually unhittable 08:34 Meanwhile I still get hit at -40 lol 08:34 I wanna meet whoever dealt them that copium, sounds like a good deal. 08:35 it was sjdevnull 08:36 also reading the wiki I've just learned that negative AC gives you a small damage reduction 08:36 "virtually unhittable" as long as you don't go past level 5 or so? 08:36 ugh i've been chugging all the conf because it was smoky and i didn't learn a spell to forget until later in the game 08:37 use non-blessed booze 08:37 ain't butterfly effects fun? 08:37 (if not alchemized to get confusion) 08:37 i've been dipping those 08:38 curse a uni 08:38 hmm yeah good idea 08:38 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 198 points, 677 turns, killed by a water moccasin 08:39 you should be able to write conf monster and then punch yourself in the face 08:39 do you ever stop finding tripe? 08:39 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating an egg, on T:3166 08:39 Quaffed from a fountain again. Thought it would be exciting. It was. 08:40 I don't want to trawling all the floors for tripe, especially when it takes so many turns and doesn't conf 100% of the time 08:40 no demogorgon at xl1? 08:40 unit327, or just write cursed confuse monster 08:40 oh does that work? Nice 08:42 [EU] Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:24235 08:43 Well that's annoying 08:43 [US] [D]: Umbire (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 9412 points, 9886 turns, petrified by a chickatrice corpse 08:43 Ah well, next 08:43 Hmm, maybe I should try one of those concept runs I've been dabbling with 08:43 F 08:43 * Nesta renames robotfindskitten to awkward pet disposal 08:44 Actually lemme see what ye old clan needs first 08:45 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3384 08:46 Alright, let's work on lesser human and maybe have some fun. 08:47 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3613 points, 3222 turns, killed by a magic missile 08:48 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) removed klepto's uncursed ring of levitation from the swap chest, on T:35508 08:49 !oOD is smoky. sorry nymphs! 08:49 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2979 points, 4041 turns, killed by a tengu 08:49 Nesta, "pet disposal"? 08:51 a place you'll never return to for getting rid of something that's become a liability 08:51 The chest didn't take the helm of opposite alignment, because it was cursed... 08:53 That thought had also crossed my mind before, Nesta. Also makes for a good level for stashing. 08:54 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:54 then I'll end up using it for both a stash and that tame MMF that's one more Stormbringer accident away from my brain 08:55 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:1707 08:56 A tame MMF? How rare! 08:56 * docpi tries to keep a straight face. 08:58 rare? I get a pet mmf in a lot of games 08:59 or a pw or AL 08:59 all things that are fun until they aren't. Biggest surprise of 3.6 has been pet dragons using breath weapons 09:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-19 09:00 UTC: Games: 11, Asc: 0, Scum: 1. 38549 turns, 34048 points. (80%Neu), 11d 14:59 remaining. 09:00 that's why my wizards are all females, for the chance at polyselfing dragons and laying eggs 09:00 if you can't farm black puddings how about birthing black dragons? 09:03 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:26911 09:04 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:68980 09:04 [EU] [D]: tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 2544 points, 2068 turns, killed by a blue jelly 09:04 [US] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered Cat-01, her faithful kitten, on T:1331 09:05 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 544 points, 1349 turns, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 09:05 I was hallucinating, and lost track of my kitten between the two monsters. 09:11 $lastgame umbire 09:11 anselmus: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Umbire/tnnt/dumplog/1700371182.tnnt.html 09:12 found a floor wow when i'm already set at the endgame 09:12 unit327, lmao 09:12 Probably has you covered for anything on the PLanes 09:12 [EU] Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:26255 09:14 Umbire: what happened? 09:14 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4082 09:14 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "Blessed Fixed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:940 09:14 Annoyance, impatience, grabbed inventory without re-wearing gloves, 's whatever 09:15 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:21440 09:15 I wanna see if I can swing a casting valk 09:15 i gathered as much, but why was everything on the ground 09:15 Boulder squeezing, 09:16 as implied by the "impatience" bit 09:16 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:36483 09:16 oh right 09:24 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4974 points, 6601 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 09:24 [US] Spider74656 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 09:26 Bother, Orc Town 09:26 need to come back with PR 09:26 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:44688 09:27 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic missile", on T:27393 09:28 quite maddening sometimes how pets are unable to kill things 09:29 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:21882 09:31 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3082 points, 2600 turns, killed by a dwarf lord 09:32 [EU] [D]: fragmites (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2533 points, 3879 turns, killed by a werejackal, while sleeping 09:32 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1186 points, 3483 turns, poisoned by a killer bee 09:34 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:45123 09:35 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:22442 09:36 [EU] [D]: tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 468 points, 1247 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 09:40 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "the Holy Platinum Yendorian Express Card", on T:7692 09:42 [AU] [D]: madelotsofspaget (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 291 points, 1034 turns, killed by a dwarf 09:43 so sick of pyros 09:44 brought stinking cloud specially for zoo, poof 09:44 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:2863 09:45 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:23167 09:46 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23205 09:49 [EU] khamul (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:65518 09:49 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "marker", on T:23473 09:50 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "2 holy charging", on T:23480 09:50 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "marker", on T:23481 09:51 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "3 blessed greased scrolls of charging", on T:36963 09:51 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "marker", on T:23488 09:52 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:72710 09:52 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", on T:36965 09:56 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:4551 09:58 Apparently a gnome lord stole one of the potions from the Minetown general store and hit the shopkeeper with it. 10:00 why do you think that 10:00 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) removed karafruit's uncursed ring of teleport control from the swap chest, on T:73089 10:01 I saw him do it. 10:01 Silly. 10:01 Silly gnome lord.* 10:02 [EU] khamul (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:65590 10:03 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3552 points, 5300 turns, killed by a gnome lord 10:05 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:24220 10:05 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:24223 10:05 gogo Arseniy 10:06 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 140 points, 565 turns, killed by a falling object 10:06 -!- anselmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) removed stenno's wand of death (0:1) from the swap chest, on T:24367 10:10 [EU] tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:1613 10:11 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:983 10:11 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:27613 10:13 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:25015 10:14 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:25042 10:17 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 2053 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:25432 10:20 [EU] fragmites (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 grey dragon scale mail", on T:4648 10:21 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:25816 10:24 [EU] [D]: tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 4519 points, 2918 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 10:26 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:26176 10:26 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:26177 10:27 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "holy free action", on T:26241 10:28 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) removed spazm's uncursed wand of polymorph (0:6) from the swap chest, on T:27916 10:28 [EU] [D]: fragmites (Val Dwa Fem Law), 7043 points, 5466 turns, killed by a troll, while sleeping 10:30 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:32172 10:34 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism by offering a gnome corpse on an altar of Chih Sung-tzu, on T:3050 10:35 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:26902 10:35 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:26905 10:36 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:26914 10:37 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:39 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:39 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:27001 10:39 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:27007 10:40 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:21672 10:42 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided energy vortex, on T:27252 10:43 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:28444 10:44 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:28447 10:44 [AU] [Q]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3451 points, 7033 turns, quit 10:46 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:28471 10:47 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 87 points, 596 turns, killed by a falling object 10:48 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 10:48 -!- elenmirie has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:51 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:28585 10:52 -!- stagnate has joined #tnnt 10:55 neither of the castle's barracks had any loot boxes in it. wonder what the chances of that are 10:56 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:28624 10:56 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:28627 10:57 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1373 points, 2075 turns, killed by an arrow 10:57 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:22700 10:57 [EU] [D]: tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 66 points, 303 turns, killed by a giant mimic 10:58 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:28808 10:59 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 11:01 [EU] DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:28869 11:01 [EU] [A]: DoktorL (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1412838 points, 28885 turns, ascended 11:01 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DoktorL/tnnt/dumplog/1700335211.tnnt.html 11:02 congrats, Arseniy 11:02 thanks! 11:02 1-hour gehennom, not bad, that's sub 3-hour pace 11:03 congrats! 11:04 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 12170 points, 4878 turns, killed by a mountain centaur 11:05 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1493 11:05 is that your 13-streak now? 11:08 gg, that's nuts 11:09 gg 11:09 yes it is! Grand Slam WBO for Arseniy !!! 11:10 * stenno rings the bells 11:10 yes, a streak of all roles 11:10 wow, that's really big poggies 11:10 I've done it once before, though not with random races 11:11 needed to check NHS for that 11:11 under my NAO name Arsenicum 11:11 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Andrio's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2571 11:12 [US] kcostell (Val Hum Fem Neu) became Odin's Envoy of Balance, on T:25456 11:12 Congrats! :o 11:12 now I can be reasonably sure I'll win longest streak 11:15 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:29178 11:15 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) bribed Asmodeus with 40 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:23518 11:15 grats arseniy, that's an incredible feat 11:16 it's not actually grand slam because I never rolled an elf 11:16 or it is but not within the streak 11:17 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1579 points, 3449 turns, killed by a dagger 11:18 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) bribed Baalzebub with 83 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:23695 11:20 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:23747 11:23 Thanks mobileuser, stenno, aoei, Andrio, Furey 11:24 Arseniy, if you want your name DoktorL can be linked to your name Arsenicum on the nethack scoreboard 11:26 go YTF clan 11:26 that would me nice, how to do that? 11:26 I'll ask malor. Any other accounts? 11:26 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:29729 11:26 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:45859 11:26 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:45860 11:28 not really, only a smurf I've used to avoid resuming a parked game 11:28 don't care about that one 11:30 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 833 points, 6169 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while praying 11:31 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 18 points, 121 turns, killed by a jackal 11:34 [AU] madelotsofspaget (Mon Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a water elemental, on T:5818 11:34 Wow, congrats Arseniy!!! :)  (just finished lunch) 11:35 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:40799 11:35 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:40805 11:37 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:34511 11:38 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:34518 11:38 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:40861 11:38 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 645 points, 1627 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 11:40 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:25047 11:40 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:25048 11:41 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:34665 11:41 congrats Arseniy 11:42 arseniy, gg 11:42 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9370 11:43 Still no poison resistance 11:43 suppose I hang out on Oracle or something 11:45 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 11:46 no sinks, Umbire? 11:46 (just an idea. there is always risk) 11:46 One 11:46 could kick it for pudding 11:47 two guaranteed sinks at devteam office 11:47 rolled a wizard with sleep and bugle, it's very tempting to give up streaking and attempt a dig for victory 11:47 I would streak! 11:48 but I think I'll resist the temptation 11:48 =oGainCon is kinda nice too 11:48 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:50 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:35202 11:50 [EU] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "uncursed marker", on T:19900 11:51 I'm not struggling for it per se but it's something I should grab before advancing too much further 11:53 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:30745 11:54 I clearly have a magic lamp but I'd like to beatitude check it before rubbing 11:54 Which needs Orc Town, which needs PR... I got the amulet from Soko so I have Options 11:54 Just need to think on it 11:55 adventure calls 11:56 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:30807 11:56 its voice says "Umbire, I am waiting for you lower in the main dungeons" 11:56 "Please hurry" 11:57 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:41304 11:57 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:41308 11:57 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5367 11:57 "don't let silly orctown distract you from our mysterious, dangerous allure. We have altars aplenty down here" 11:58 [US] [D]: stagnate (Sam Hum Fem Law), 9421 points, 8970 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:58 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:30816 11:58 So sticking lazy 11:58 No more magic lamp. I'll be in the dark now. 11:59 sounds cozy 12:00 Current Day as of 2023-11-19 12:00 UTC: Games: 118, Asc: 4, Scum: 6. 612905 turns, 9679143 points. 6d 00:10 gametime. (38%Wiz), (56%Hum), (55%Neu), (53%Mal), 11d 11:59 remaining. 12:02 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 231 points, 406 turns, killed by a housecat called Aja 12:02 ^^ That one is a bit interesting... 12:03 That's a bones level, I assume, and yet, it had a devteam scroll. 12:03 [AU] [D]: madelotsofspaget (Mon Hum Fem Law), 10795 points, 6922 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted nalfeshnee 12:03 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 helm of telepathy", on T:25400 12:05 Sink worked out, to the pain 12:06 -!- Bleeko has joined #tnnt 12:09 altar converted, plenty of orcs to go 12:09 [EU] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:20034 12:10 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:25452 12:10 Why, oh why do I try playing nethack again? 12:10 * docpi proceeds. 12:11 Because it is fun when it goes well. Which sometimes happens 🙂 12:13 Bleeko, and _then_ it hurts a lot more when you die a YASD or from a mean RNG, _because_ it was going so well. 12:16 [US] [D]: stagnate (Sam Hum Mal Law), 162 points, 1450 turns, killed by a large cat called Aja 12:18 true, but if you have a zen detachment you can live in the moment. 12:20 Every tournament, I have some heartbreaker deaths. Sometimes with the amulet, sometimes late game. Usually it is just a dumb thing I did, but sometimes there is something to learn. 12:20 [US] hilarita (Arc Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Candidate, on T:774 12:22 In any case, I just mentally terminate that game and move on to the next. I don't try to carry the old game in my mind anymore the way I used to. 12:23 That was Andrios' cat, stagnate. 12:23 Yeah.  Wasn't able to do much to his ghost at level 1 12:24 Which is good advice, Bleeko, for otherwise you start looking for items, or places, in your current game that only existed games before. 12:25 arahael, the devteam scrolls can appear on bones levels, yeah. But they weren't left there by whomever died. 12:25 Ah, makes sense. 12:25 stagnate, kicking is always an option 12:25 Hell, tame the cat and it'll often do the work for you 12:26 ah.  Yeah I didn't have anything at that point.  I had decided to try for protection racket (without any good reason) and ate my only food before that 12:27 Indeed, Umbire, I discovered today that kicking a ghost hits more often than hitting it with a staff. 12:27 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:36769 12:27 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 12:28 !pom 12:28 wow...these random devils keep summoning demon lords 12:28 [US] [D]: hilarita (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 991 points, 2966 turns, killed by a small mimic 12:28 * docpi hms 12:28 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Ashikaga Takauji, on T:26770 12:29 Hm. 12:29 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:36836 12:30 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26790 12:31 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7031 12:34 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:36 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:37130 12:36 Okay, so this particular shop where I currently am has half a dozen tin whistles, and half a dozen towels. 12:37 [EU] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law) destroyed jonosmalls88's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:3638 12:37 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 2061 points, 3649 turns, killed by a giant mimic 12:37 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed eitlarry's ghost, the former Digger, on T:8342 12:37 [US] [D]: hilarita (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 223 points, 532 turns, killed by a coyote 12:38 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) removed terrapin's uncursed +0 shield of reflection from the swap chest, on T:7035 12:38 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Bean's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:8360 12:38 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Kewl's ghost, the former Gallant, on T:8374 12:38 that's why Towelie says...don't forget to bring a towel 12:38 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:8399 12:39 wow this is quite the ghost gathering 12:39 [EU] Dictyostelium (Mon Hum Fem Law) removed spazm's blessed +2 ring of protection from the swap chest, on T:4206 12:40 -!- fakepass has joined #tnnt 12:43 lol djinn vanish 12:43 ah well, to swap chest 12:43 (after finishing with Orc Town) 12:43 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 582 points, 733 turns, killed by a gnome 12:44 Congrats on your win Umbire! 12:45 Thank you 12:46 DoktorL on the 37th best streak of all time! 12:46 [EU] [D]: tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 731 points, 1329 turns, killed by a gnome lord 12:47 [US] [D]: hilarita (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 1284 points, 900 turns, killed by a gnome 12:47 [EU] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:58380 12:49 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Mon Hum Fem Law), 7400 points, 4344 turns, killed by a plains centaur, while fainted from lack of food 12:49 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 381 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:37697 12:50 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:11656 12:51 Really now, I miss decidedly more often in 3.6.7/TNNT than in 3.4.3 12:51 And die more often hence. 12:52 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 236 points, 1286 turns, killed by a gecko 12:55 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 798 points, 3173 turns, killed by a rothe 12:57 [EU] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) removed DoktorL's uncursed +0 shield of reflection from the swap chest, on T:58672 12:57 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1266 points, 2924 turns, killed by a killer bee 12:57 [EU] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:21772 12:59 [US] Spider74656 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5458 13:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-19 13:00 UTC: Games: 13, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 0d 05:18 gametime. (46%Neu), 11d 10:59 remaining. 13:02 -!- HalNovek has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:04 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1065 points, 1171 turns, killed by a wand 13:07 -!- nurdglaw has joined #tnnt 13:07 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:38536 13:08 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:38537 13:12 [EU] DeVoid (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:21432 13:13 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:38908 13:14 [EU] [D]: tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 1598 points, 1692 turns, killed by a gnome lord 13:16 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:9361 13:16 Now I know why I get such mean RNG results: DoktorL gets all the good luck! 13:17 [US] [D]: bleeko (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 6566 points, 4139 turns, killed by a leocrotta 13:19 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 13:20 shoulda prayed to the RNG harder 13:20 smh 13:22 hey, I did get orctown on a gnomish healer 13:22 [US] SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Andrio's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4647 13:23 [US] [D]: stagnate (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1812 points, 3347 turns, killed by a kitten 13:23 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:6971 13:23 [US] [D]: bleeko (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 353 points, 1018 turns, killed by a dwarf 13:24 Double giant mimic bones... 13:24 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:6986 13:25 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:77158 13:26 Raisse and jonosmalls88 13:28 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:42781 13:31 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1844 points, 2774 turns, killed by a plains centaur 13:31 [EU] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:25966 13:31 oh right, that's the minetown one, I killed the ghost but bumped into the mimic later 13:32 (it had followed me out of the shop, never got to the pile) 13:35 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2177 points, 4772 turns, killed by a ghoul, while paralyzed by a monster (and one other game not reported) 13:36 -!- tinklebear has left #tnnt 13:37 [US] [D]: spleen (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 127 points, 236 turns, killed by a boiling potion 13:39 [EU] DeVoid (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:23377 13:40 [US] Spider74656 (Ran Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:6819 13:40 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:39290 13:41 What happens when you carry a cursed luckstone with you? 13:41 [EU] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3101 13:41 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 471 points, 2459 turns, killed by a dwarf lord 13:41 Exactly. 13:41 lmao 13:41 An unidentified cursed luckstone, and I should have known. 13:42 rekt 13:42 Came from a trap pile, could get kicked fine, was not touchstone, so it was either luck or flint. 13:42 And since most items in a trap or bones pile are cursed.. 13:42 RIP 13:43 Lesson learned. 13:43 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 334 points, 1440 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 13:44 ah that's what bleeko died of 13:44 [EU] [D]: tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 1500 points, 2325 turns, killed by a gnome lord 13:44 raisse: F 13:45 [EU] joes (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5787 13:45 * Bleeko hears someone talking about his past lives 13:46 [EU] joes (Bar Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wood nymph, on T:5803 13:46 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:39571 13:47 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 121 points, 942 turns, killed by a newt 13:49 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 552 points, 2517 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt, while sleeping 13:49 Andrio: F 13:49 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:77359 13:49 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:77361 13:50 Furey, preparing for the Planes? 13:50 no. haven't even finished quest yet. 13:51 [--] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) has died too many times from sadistic RNG, and swears to give up playing nethack forever. Next game is expected to start in about an hour or so. 13:53 [AU] [D]: madelotsofspaget (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 723 points, 202 turns, killed by a black pudding 13:54 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:4805 13:55 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:77415 13:56 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:56 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 397 points, 1004 turns, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 13:58 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 13:59 [US] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:949 14:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-19 14:00 UTC: Games: 16, Asc: 0, Scum: 1. 30039 turns, 19640 points. (40%Law), 11d 09:59 remaining. 14:02 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 831 points, 3325 turns, killed by a rothe 14:05 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:77482 14:06 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 14:06 I noticed you enjoy Wizards, but the early game play of Barbarian or Valkrie is so much easier than Wizard you may want to give those a try also. 14:07 Okay, fiteen minutes. 14:07 -!- dbanethacker has joined #tnnt 14:08 whenver I really want to get a win, I always fall back on Barbarians as they have poison resist and good dps right away. 14:08 [US] [D]: spleen (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1146 points, 2096 turns, killed by a pony 14:10 [US] [D]: Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 374 points, 1006 turns, killed by a kitten 14:14 [US] [D]: bleeko (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 740 points, 1864 turns, killed by a pony 14:16 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12654 14:17 [EU] tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:2667 14:18 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:77575 14:21 [EU] DeVoid (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:24886 14:21 !tell K2 that dbanethacker just ordered a large black t-shirt 14:21 [EU] [D]: tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 3097 points, 3044 turns, killed by a priest of Set, while paralyzed by a monster 14:21 $tell K2 that dbanethacker just ordered a large black 2023 tournament t-shirt 14:21 I'm on it, dbanethacker. 14:22 -!- HalNovek has joined #tnnt 14:26 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:44733 14:27 [US] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:556 14:27 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:28 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:13964 14:29 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:37665 14:29 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) found kitten, on T:3936 14:30 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:14122 14:30 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12331 14:30 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:14186 14:31 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) removed DoktorL's blessed +1 silver dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:12336 14:32 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1940 points, 4154 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf, while praying 14:33 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided class R, on T:77746 14:33 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided class P, on T:77749 14:34 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided class c, on T:77759 14:34 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) genocided master mind flayer, on T:45468 14:35 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided class U, on T:77761 14:35 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a jaguar, on T:14378 14:35 had this extra marker in my stash that i forgot about 14:35 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 14:36 plenty of replacement armor upstairs 14:36 Kinda liked the shirt though 14:36 after zero altars in main dungeon, and zero bags in medusa island, gonna play the game with less hassle now 14:41 ... zero bags UNTIL medusa island ... 14:42 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1764 points, 3916 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 14:43 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 650 points, 989 turns, killed by a killer bee 14:43 [US] [D]: Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 482 points, 1333 turns, killed by a wand 14:45 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:35233 14:45 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1545 points, 1941 turns, killed by a gnome king, while sleeping 14:45 * docpi hates nymphs 14:46 [EU] [D]: tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 1840 points, 1455 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while dressing up 14:46 -!- aoei is now known as cute 14:46 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35249 14:46 -!- cute is now known as aoei 14:47 last night I had a nightmare about NetHack development 14:47 I was dreaming that someone playing Tourist had somehow managed to get the PYEC before the Quest 14:47 and I just couldn't figure it out 14:50 [US] kalik (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1 14:51 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:78455 14:52 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 481 points, 1317 turns, killed by a coyote, while fainted from lack of food 14:53 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 12 points, 280 turns, killed by a jackal 14:55 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 55 points, 150 turns, killed by a falling rock 14:56 I just wasted an hour trying to figure out colors in iterm2  (qt) 14:56 qt 14:56 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:46000 14:56 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Adept, on T:9925 14:57 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 37 points, 457 turns, killed by a sewer rat 14:58 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:46009 14:59 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:95830 14:59 -!- karafruit has joined #tnnt 15:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-19 15:00 UTC: Games: 25, Asc: 0, Scum: 10. 0d 07:06 gametime. (40%Pri), 11d 08:59 remaining. 15:00 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:78984 15:00 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 420 points, 1467 turns, killed by an iguana 15:01 ais523, that is possible with a wish? 15:01 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 880 points, 1746 turns, killed by a hill orc, while sleeping 15:01 you cannot with for your own quest artifact 15:01 docpi: not playing Tourist 15:01 you cannot wish for your own quest artifact 15:02 I think if you find bones with your own quest artifact, you get the plain version (a normal credit card) 15:02 fwiw the version of NetHack in the dream looked like a development nightmare, it had changed substantially and had more TNNT-style interactions between games 15:02 (I found bones with the actual PYEC the other day but I was a healer, not a tourist) 15:02 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 15:03 raisse: yes 15:03 [US] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) found kitten, on T:1307 15:03 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 15:03 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:21217 15:04 -!- karafruit has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:04 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 266 points, 270 turns, killed by a gnome 15:05 morning/afternoon/evening o/ 15:05 K2: Message from dbanethacker at 2023-11-19 14:21 UTC: that dbanethacker just ordered a large black 2023 tournament t-shirt 15:05 good whatever 15:06 $tell dbanethacker I see the order, good to go 15:06 Will do, K2! 15:06 hola, K2 15:06 -!- joes has joined #tnnt 15:06 heya crunchbubba 15:06 ais523 nice dream :P 15:07 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:79553 15:08 /* Work out the armor class differential */ tmp = u.uac + 10; 15:08 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "marker", on T:21480 15:09 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 294 points, 1256 turns, killed by a bat 15:09 looks like it started appearing in 3.0.0 15:09 But by bribing the Demons, you do not get to get their inventory. 15:09 -!- karafruit has joined #tnnt 15:09 Demo1: that comment is so strange 15:09 why "differential"? 15:10 the AC isn't being compared to anything 15:10 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Source:NetHack_3.0.0/mhitu.c it is being compared to 10 15:10 I guess it's being compared to the monster's level (by adding rather than subtracting because AC counts backwards?) 15:10 find_ac in this version still bases it on 10, so it isn't like it was offset by 10 for some version 15:10 Demon inventory - at the stage of the game where you can beat one is next to useless. 15:11 as I said earlier, I have a strong suspicion that the hit chance formula doesn't work at all 15:11 [16:02] I think if you find bones with your own quest artifact, you get the plain version (a normal credit card) <- I think that's the only way to get a non-artifact tsurugi, or does it convert to an ordinary two-handed sword? 15:11 i agree, it would be interesting though to have historical "proof" that looks like specific things can be pointed to as a mistake 15:12 (possibly in either direction, monster→player or player→monster, and at any stage of the game) 15:12 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:46179 15:12 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:23346 15:14 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed figurine of a woodchuck named Carl", on T:46196 15:15 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 268 points, 1826 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion (and 12 other games not reported) 15:16 [AU] Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "cursed figurine of a woodchuck named Carlos", on T:46214 15:17 Asmodeus with wand of digging is driving me mad! 15:17 [AU] [A]: Tangles (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1944856 points, 46216 turns, ascended 15:17 https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/tnnt/dumplog/1700021346.tnnt.html 15:17 Congrats! :) 15:17 congrats Tangles! 15:17 Thanks :) 15:18 congrats! 15:18 gg 15:18 raisse: you can wish for a non-artifact tsurugi if you really want to 15:18 YASNI: A silver hating monster additionally suffers the according damage for silver hating when zapped with a silver wands. 15:19 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:39014 15:19 woooo 15:19 \o/ 15:19 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:20 ais523: I didn't know that, but it figures, thanks! 15:20 Thanks Umbire! Congrats on yours earlier as well! 15:21 o7 15:21 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Thoth Amon, on T:22383 15:21 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22385 15:22 docpi: you're not actually hitting it with the wand when you zap the wand 15:22 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:80249 15:22 Noisytoot, exhaust fumes? Sparkles? 15:23 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:80254 15:24 maybe only for the wand of striking? 15:24 Catacombs 15:24 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 280 points, 2199 turns, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 15:25 -!- a1 has joined #tnnt 15:26 HalNovek, and magic missile, and fire, and cold, and lightning, and death, and sleep.. 15:27 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:38046 15:27 WOOOOOOOO +5 elven mithril coat! 15:28 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:28 drop from a hobbit, I think 15:29 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:29 [US] a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3021 15:29 docpi:  rather have striking always hit 15:29 I'd 15:30 Frodo? lol 15:32 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:39326 15:33 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:22712 15:34 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:38189 15:34 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:38191 15:34 -!- callforjudgement has joined #tnnt 15:34 -!- callforjudgement is now known as ais523 15:38 [EU] nurdglaw (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:10688 15:38 -!- nurdglaw has joined #tnnt 15:38 ok lets see how many times i get yanked back by the mysterious force 15:38 last asc it was 23 levels 15:39 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:14921 15:41 yow that's a bad mysterious force 15:42 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 884 points, 2410 turns, killed by a giant spider (and 9 other games not reported) 15:42 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 610 points, 4237 turns, killed by an imp 15:43 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) removed Furey's uncursed +3 silver saber from the swap chest, on T:16323 15:43 i recall someone last year had something like 40+ levels of being sent back 15:43 The shrieker did not shriek. 15:43 or maybe it was year before 15:44 [US] habib (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:17775 15:44 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:45 [US] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) murdered Snoball, his faithful kitten, on T:2037 15:46 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 15:46 [US] [D]: spleen (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1780 points, 2548 turns, killed by an explosion 15:46 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 15:47 .oO(boom?) 15:47 [EU] [D]: fragmites (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1256 points, 2252 turns, killed by a killer bee 15:47 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:27933 15:47 [US] jmcunx (Cav Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (killer bee), on T:969 15:48 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16767 15:48 I just lost Asmo... 15:49 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 461 points, 1367 turns, killed by a gnome king 15:49 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:39103 15:49 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 203 points, 1571 turns, killed by a coyote, while fainted from lack of food 15:49 don't worry, he'll teleport to your side as soon as you arrive on the same level 15:50 -!- Demo1 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:50 -!- Demo has joined #tnnt 15:50 hmmmm.... do I *want* to buy rings of polymorph and polymorph control? kinda... 15:50 sadly he has a wand of digging too... 15:51 Yes, karafruit, you want to. 15:51 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:21860 15:51 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14308 15:51 k2: i was sent back 42 levels this year 15:51 lots of things you can with a polykit 15:51 problem is I don't know which two of the three remaining 300s they are. (I have conflict already, and this giant ring shop has the other three...) 15:51 plus 3 same levels 15:52 presumably if one is cursed that's polymorph, but... dangerous to go with tele control instead of poly control lol 15:52 if you have dupes, then sink-identify? 15:52 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 5515 points, 2083 turns, killed by a watch captain 15:52 ooh, good call. there's a dupe of one of them 15:52 and I have plenty of money 15:53 Burn cash, karafruit, you can always make more! 15:53 and I already have 9 points of protection so not like it's gonna do me much good there 15:54 [US] habib (Bar Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:17920 15:54 hothraxxa uuuuugh 15:54 -!- oh6 has joined #tnnt 15:54 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 43 points, 249 turns, killed by a wand 15:54 -!- Waffa has joined #tnnt 15:54 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "marker", on T:22296 15:55 you're chaotic 15:55 my chaotic monk was sent back 2 levels iirc 15:55 yeah this current game i was only sent back 2-3 times. first ascrun this tournament where the number has been low 15:56 (for me) 15:58 I feel like I'm probably gonna be snacking on some rings soon... hehe 15:59 [US] [D]: a1 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 759 points, 1466 turns, killed by a watch captain 15:59 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:39680 15:59 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) removed DoktorL's blessed +1 silver dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:14950 16:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-19 16:00 UTC: Games: 29, Asc: 1, Scum: 13. 74240 turns, 1958857 points. (31%Pri), 11d 07:59 remaining. 16:00 my most recent ascrun I alternated up and down on the stairs near the top in order to get the achievement for being sent back 16:00 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:00 *picks up 3000 zorkmids-worth of rings* 16:00 [EU] [D]: fragmites (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 520 points, 1369 turns, killed by an acidic glob 16:01 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "marker", on T:22529 16:02 $lastasc 16:02 Umbire: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DoktorL/tnnt/dumplog/1700335211.tnnt.html | [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Umbire/tnnt/dumplog/1699121549.tnnt.html | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/tnnt/dumplog/1700021346.tnnt.html 16:02 11 16:02 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 24 points, 130 turns, killed by a little dart 16:03 [US] [D]: Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1204 points, 2337 turns, killed by a small mimic, while praying 16:05 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 176 points, 746 turns, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 16:05 [EU] fragmites (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:863 16:05 [EU] fragmites (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:871 16:06 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:15606 16:06 sweet, magic resistance! 16:07 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:80818 16:07 [US] [D]: Kewl (Kni Hum Mal Law), 734 points, 2053 turns, killed by a gnome 16:07 Lesson learned today: It is unwise to leave a tile qith a dropped scroll of scare monster while low on HP, and knowing that there is still a considerable rest of the horde (or two) of hill orcs in the vicinity in the unlit mine level. 16:08 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2333 points, 3653 turns, killed by a hill orc 16:09 Whoever finds my bones from this run: The elven mithril coat is +5. 16:09 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:09 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 16:10 both Orcus and Asmodeus with a wand of digging! The one time I haven't prepared anything 16:11 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 89 points, 1077 turns, killed by a kobold, while sleeping (and 11 other games not reported) 16:13 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:49224 16:13 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:40099 16:13 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 171 points, 928 turns, killed by a goblin 16:14 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:40372 16:14 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:49226 16:15 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:29632 16:15 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:49256 16:16 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:40164 16:17 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) removed Shrigis' blessed bag of holding from the swap chest, on T:14750 16:17 [US] k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:40197 16:17 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:16130 16:18 -!- klepto has joined #tnnt 16:18 so... Orcus just reached Wizard's Tower floor, while Asmo maybe quaffed a cursed potion of gain level or read a cursed scroll of teleport... 16:19 [US] hilarita (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:3383 16:20 [US] [A]: k2 (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 2123020 points, 40234 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/tnnt/dumplog/1700272031.tnnt.html 16:20 Congrats k2! :) 16:21 congrats! 16:21 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3432 16:21 "You were sent back 0 levels by the mysterious force." wow! :) 16:21 thanks! 16:22 have fun getting that toon in the deathmatch 16:22 :P 16:22 19 cursed scroll of create monster lol 16:22 [US] hilarita (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:4571 16:24 grats k2 16:24 thank you 16:24 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:49487 16:25 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:49492 16:25 [EU] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 800 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27882 16:25 -!- oh7 has joined #tnnt 16:25 oh hey... wishless 16:26 *finally found a long worm and is happy* 16:26 [EU] Dictyostelium (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2570 16:27 I said: Is bribing the demons not unwise, because they get to keep their inventory? 16:27 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) removed unit327's blessed +5 cloak of magic resistance from the swap chest, on T:10784 16:28 it's better to loose a few attack wands than have to re-bless your gear IMO 16:29 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:29 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 16:29 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18471 16:31 -!- oh7 has joined #tnnt 16:33 -!- oh6 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:33 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 16:33 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:16579 16:33 I just realized that I only ever faced the Demons wielding Magicbane. 16:33 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Val Dwa Fem Law) removed efot's uncursed amulet of reflection from the swap chest, on T:18485 16:33 [EU] [D]: tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 1031 points, 1368 turns, killed by a dwarf 16:33 So the question of risking getting items in inventory cursed never occurred to me. 16:35 Baalzebub and Asmodeus are not casters 16:35 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:36 but they could summon other casters 16:36 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 16:37 [US] [D]: hilarita (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 2891 points, 7239 turns, killed by a soldier ant 16:39 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11682 16:39 [US] [D]: klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 303 points, 1246 turns, killed by a dwarf 16:41 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15227 16:41 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:18424 16:41 [US] Kewl (Kni Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur, on T:2117 16:42 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:19271 16:42 Silver saber! 16:42 \o/ 16:43 Just like that, on the floor. 16:43 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:50877 16:44 [US] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3217 16:44 [US] Kewl (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed fragmites' ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:2499 16:44 [EU] fragmites (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:5962 16:44 D - an uncursed +7 ring of increase damage 16:44 WAt 16:44 [US] Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:41500 16:45 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 844 points, 3653 turns, killed by a land mine (and one other game not reported) 16:45 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:45 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:31345 16:45 Very nice, oh6. 16:46 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:40988 16:46 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:40989 16:46 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:5712 16:47 [US] Umbire (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Nesta's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:19748 16:48 -!- Staengia has joined #tnnt 16:48 Was behind a door I didn't check 16:48 Wow +7 is crazy 16:48 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Loki, on T:12276 16:49 [US] Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:41507 16:50 [EU] fragmites (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed rvcx's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:6639 16:50 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 505 points, 1456 turns, killed by a bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 16:50 eep I didn't see the floating eye, should perhaps stop playing for now 16:50 2nd throne wish (but no fountain wish!) 16:51 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:41101 16:51 [US] Kewl (Kni Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a scroll labeled EIRIS SAZUN IDISI on an altar, on T:3184 16:51 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:52 With great WoDs comes great responsibility 16:53 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:26510 16:53 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3024 points, 4642 turns, killed by a killer bee, while fainted from lack of food 16:54 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:51447 16:54 [EU] tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a concave amulet on an altar, on T:3603 16:55 oooh dev throne wish 16:55 *curses the game for generating giantslayer* 16:56 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 potions of unholy water", on T:31914 16:57 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed the platinum yendorian express card", on T:18069 16:57 got it? 16:57 yep 16:57 still grumpy about giantslayer tho 16:58 I got Cleaver twice in a row 16:58 not bad, but I wanted to play with pets 16:58 ah, yeah 16:58 that's how I feel about stormbringer lol 16:58 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) murdered Rex, his faithful dog, on T:13407 16:58 I'm doing a nudist run tho so quest arti wishes are basically my only hope for MR so it felt especially awful to get giantslayer 16:58 I at least already had magicbane tho 16:59 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:32075 16:59 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:32076 16:59 [US] [D]: Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law), 214803 points, 41580 turns, killed by a DevTeam member called ais 16:59 Lesson learned this time: Do not randomly eat corpses after killing so many monsters in the Mines that you do not know any more when they fell. 16:59 oh noooo 16:59 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:32104 17:00 does anyone know if a cockatrice touches you while you're not wearing armor if that's an instadeath? 17:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-19 17:00 UTC: Games: 85, Asc: 1, Scum: 69. 113878 turns, 2351735 points. (31%Wiz), 11d 06:59 remaining. 17:00 obv if I touch it I die, but not sure if its attacks are super dangerous 17:00 [US] [D]: docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 825 points, 1913 turns, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse 17:00 no, she has to hiss at you after a successful attack 17:00 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6827 17:00 and is not instant 17:00 ok, so could still lizard corpse (assuming not satiated... hrm) 17:00 And only during a new moon phase. 17:01 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:51677 17:01 are we in a new moon or not? I still carry lizard corpses 17:01 !pom does not work here, but it does in #nethack 17:01 new moon just increases the chances of it causing stoning I believe, it's always a chance I believe 17:01 And no, HalNovek, not yet. 17:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:02 $lastgame Staengia 17:02 tjw: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Staengia/tnnt/dumplog/1700228304.tnnt.html 17:02 YASD 17:02 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 4533 points, 2655 turns, killed by a blue jelly 17:02 HalNovek, full mooon in 8 days. 17:02 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:32206 17:02 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:32215 17:02 then I just confused it with the other one XD 17:02 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:51730 17:02 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:21074 17:03 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed klepto's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:3184 17:03 klepto, raiding you rown bones? 17:03 [US] terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "boulder", on T:51734 17:03 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (energy vortex), on T:18071 17:03 no rest for the wicked 17:04 wish and a genocide out of dev throne, not bad 17:04 I could try to poly the sinks into fountains for the fountain wish 17:04 [US] [A]: terrapin (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2664442 points, 51757 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/terrapin/tnnt/dumplog/1700250818.tnnt.html 17:05 the problem is that if I got the wish, then I would have to wish for potions of acid (that are smoky in this game!) as well 17:05 [EU] nurdglaw (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13023 17:05 Congrats! :) 17:05 wooo congrats terrapin 17:05 congrats terrapin! 17:05 -!- terrapin has joined #tnnt 17:06 HalNovek: the game I got it it took me 14 potions of acids from wishes before I got it D: 17:06 smoky acid sucks :c 17:07 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:21480 17:07 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3627 17:07 [US] [D]: klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2709 points, 3630 turns, killed by a garter snake 17:08 gg terrapin! 17:09 Bones much, klepto? 17:09 thanks! i'm very happy with it---my first streak of 3 & illiterate! 17:10 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:33369 17:11 [US] [D]: allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 195 points, 608 turns, killed by a boulder 17:11 this one wasn't actually. Just an unlucky magic trap 17:12 I can't imagine going illiterate the whole game. Good work dude 17:14 [US] NoobDoNethack (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:4492 17:14 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13682 17:14 it's not so bad as a valkyrie---the Orb gives everything you really need from scrolls---level teleport, portal detection, half damage to make up for meh AC 17:15 [EU] finitelycraig (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:48785 17:15 Found Fire Brand lying on the ground at Dlvl 5.  Something was carrying it but not sure what just found it on the path back to the upstairs. 17:15 illiterate whole game is hard! respect. 17:16 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:34150 17:16 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:34150 17:16 I had totally forgotten that the orb has a lvl port invoke. Sure would have been nice to know 17:16 Nice work!  If I can get far enough to where I even need to read... 17:19 [US] [D]: hilarita (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 450 points, 886 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 17:20 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:34232 17:21 Oh hey it's your ghost docpi 17:22 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed hilarita's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:2048 17:24 Alright, so I absolutely have MR from Nesta bones, just a matter of hitting up the Orc Town base again 17:24 [EU] Dictyostelium (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered Mini, her faithful pony, on T:114 17:24 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed partly eaten cockatrice corpse", on T:34399 17:24 [EU] [D]: tromix (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 11718 points, 5937 turns, killed by a soldier ant 17:25 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed unlit historic fireproof magic marker named thank you levitation potion", on T:58288 17:25 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 17:26 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:34413 17:26 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed docpi's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2357 17:26 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:2114 17:27 [US] Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "boulder", on T:34437 17:28 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:2361 17:29 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a wand), on T:2757 17:29 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:84820 17:29 -!- a-1 has joined #tnnt 17:30 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Val Dwa Fem Law) found kitten, on T:23121 17:31 [US] [A]: Shrigis (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2198022 points, 34452 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Shrigis/tnnt/dumplog/1700317665.tnnt.html 17:31 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:56668 17:31 [AU] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:56675 17:32 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:33 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:26695 17:33 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 5440 points, 5327 turns, killed by an owlbear 17:34 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 136 points, 657 turns, killed by an orcish dagger 17:34 Hey klepto, what did you get from my bones, and which one was it? 17:34 -!- oh6 has joined #tnnt 17:35 silver saber a cloak that I think is MR and some other cool loot I think. it was double bones so I might have gotten it mixed up 17:36 congrats Shrigis! 17:36 Were you playing the arc or the wizard? 17:37 @docpi 17:38 [US] [D]: hilarita (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 477 points, 2138 turns, killed by an invisible hobgoblin 17:39 klepto, I was playing the wizard, and if I recall correctly, the mithril coat is +5 17:39 i have yet to see bones 17:39 Yes, the cloak is MR, maybe +2 17:39 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Kni Hum Fem Law), 754 points, 1408 turns, killed by a bat 17:39 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Oracle, on T:24207 17:40 started a wizard earlier with terrible starting gear and now i don't want to continue 17:40 Is that so? I'm definetely going back for the mithril then seeing as I just found a named orc on the minetown level 17:41 klepto, it was this one: https://hardfought.org/userdata/d/docpi/tnnt/dumplog/1700411259.tnnt.html 17:41 +0 mithril 17:41 yup. I'm wearing it right now 17:41 The +5 mithril was this run: https://hardfought.org/userdata/d/docpi/tnnt/dumplog/1700406118.tnnt.html 17:42 [US] [D]: MoonPig (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 1509 points, 2328 turns, killed by an Uruk-hai, while praying (and one other game not reported) 17:42 [US] [D]: allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1718 points, 3254 turns, killed by a dwarf mummy 17:42 Well thank you for the indirect gift. my chances of surviving orctown just went up a little 17:43 stenno, many of my best runs started with some crisis, and I carried on. I was surprised myself, so I resolved never to give up, and see what RNG offers after it hit hard. 17:43 yeah its usually the bad starts that make the best games 17:43 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:3618 17:43 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 266 points, 496 turns, killed by a coyote 17:43 [US] [D]: klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2026 points, 3630 turns, killed by a plains centaur 17:44 klepto? 17:44 triple bones baby 17:44 sorry, did you eat an old corpse, get foot poisoning and pray it away, only to eat another old corpse and get food poisoning immediately afterwards? 17:44 Oh.. 17:44 orctown was open and had a reception comitee 17:44 [US] Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:2050 17:44 [US] a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3538 17:44 Yes, Shrigis, that was an especially YASD. 17:45 I lost track of the order of monster deaths. 17:45 I know, I should have just stopped eating. 17:45 you even had tripe rations to induce vomit 17:45 [US] jientho (Hea Hum Fem Neu) genocided class g, on T:10247 17:45 Shrigis: That would have saved me? 17:45 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:8010 17:45 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:22426 17:46 argh 17:46 I had briefly considered it, but then thought it would only make things worse. 17:46 I kinda agree with your mentality docpi. Bad starts are always a wild ride 17:46 it takes 14 turns to vomit, but the food poisoning timer is random 10-19 turns 17:46 if you vomit before you die then you live 17:47 This one game of iNethack2 that I have been keeping suspended on my iPad for two years now saw a BoH explosion in Mine's End. But it became my most successful run so far. 17:47 -!- cathartes has joined #tnnt 17:47 [US] [D]: MoonPig (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 499 points, 1209 turns, killed by a hobgoblin, while frozen by a monster's gaze 17:47 A close call then, Shrigis, I shall keep that in mind. 17:48 adding bohsplosion as a livelog event was such a great decision 17:48 even thuogh it happened to me twice this tourney already 17:48 i actually changed my strat now so that i am not carrying /oCancel around anymore 17:48 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20964 17:48 oh, sweet, guess the kobold I just killed picked it up for me, rad 17:49 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:46604 17:50 [US] Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:2366 17:50 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:52 good thing there is no livelogging for walking into water. i really miss paranoid swim from 3.7.0 17:52 [US] NoobDoNethack (Val Hum Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:8554 17:52 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:19784 17:52 i miss displacing peacefuls from 3.7 17:52 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 422 points, 1832 turns, killed by a bat 17:52 thats so neat once you get used to it 17:52 that too, but it actually affects gameplay a bit 17:53 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/622171187216252957/1170464440383184896/caption.gif 17:53 there is the odd moment where displacing a peaceful will put you into the center of hostile mobs 17:53 lol 17:54 it is like that 17:54 barb quest, sokoban 17:54 ranger quest 17:54 ran quest 17:54 [US] [D]: MoonPig (Pri Hum Fem Law), 671 points, 969 turns, killed by a wand 17:54 yep 17:54 lol 17:54 with the unfellable trees 17:55 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:55 conflict is a must when going into it just to have the quest guardians take care of each other 17:55 I don’t mind when the peaceful is in front of me and they just have to walk their path. The ones I sometimes kill out of spite are the ones where every time I walk by they jump in front of me. Jumping in front of me is a hostile move! 17:55 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:10078 17:56 there's nothing useful to me rn in this swap chest :( 17:56 just wait until you gate in yeenoghu from same race sacrifice as a chaotic 17:56 there's a nice shiny SDSM tho, hopefully someone gets use out of that 17:57 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:23599 17:57 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an Archon", on T:20854 17:57 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 17:57 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23619 17:58 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:2901 17:59 -!- jientho has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00 Current Day as of 2023-11-19 18:00 UTC: Games: 312, Asc: 8, Scum: 104. 1014214 turns, 18948072 points. 10d 03:39 gametime. (29%Wiz), (57%Hum), (45%Neu), (54%Fem), 11d 05:59 remaining. 18:00 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 587 points, 987 turns, killed by an acidic corpse 18:01 [US] klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2047 18:01 ooh incubus, think I've found my ticket to level 14 :) 18:03 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) found kitten, on T:14929 18:03 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 18:03 [US] NoobDoNethack (Val Hum Fem Law) found kitten, on T:9095 18:04 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 200 points, 350 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 18:05 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed allanb the orc mummy, and former Cutpurse, on T:3188 18:08 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 18:08 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed MoonPig's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:586 18:08 $lastgame moonpig 18:08 nabru: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/MoonPig/tnnt/dumplog/1700416482.tnnt.html 18:08 [US] Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:3975 18:09 hey Furey, thanks for your advice about the foocubus the other day, giving a better shot rn 18:10 all this experience you're getting! karafruit grows up to become a karatree. 18:10 lol 18:10 haven't gotten a level from it yet tho 18:10 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:11 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:21713 18:11 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:23097 18:12 [US] Corbin (Val Hum Fem Law) found kitten, on T:45027 18:12 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:9334 18:13 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:27457 18:14 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:24142 18:15 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) removed Shrigis' blessed +1 silver dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:1294 18:16 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 18:16 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3214 points, 1334 turns, poisoned by a vampire bat 18:16 F 18:17 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 75 points, 360 turns, killed by a jackal 18:18 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:84950 18:23 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:17745 18:24 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 721 points, 2206 turns, killed by a paper golem, while fainted from lack of food 18:24 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1315 points, 2498 turns, killed by a giant spider 18:24 [US] [D]: stagnate (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4768 points, 6679 turns, killed by a soldier ant 18:25 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:1486 18:25 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:24836 18:25 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24838 18:25 [US] NoobDoNethack (Val Hum Fem Law) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:10550 18:25 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:48420 18:25 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:48423 18:26 "The werejackal seeps right through its shirt!" 18:26 I hope we have fixed that one for 3.7 18:26 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 771 points, 5101 turns, killed by an imp 18:28 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 372 points, 447 turns, killed by a fox 18:29 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1083 points, 2271 turns, killed by a boiling potion 18:30 they are liquids 18:30 [US] Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law) found kitten, on T:2772 18:32 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1902 points, 3455 turns, killed by a rothe 18:33 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) removed HalNovek's uncursed amulet of life saving from the swap chest, on T:12088 18:34 [US] Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3010 18:35 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class a), on T:2357 18:35 I might not have needed the combat geno there 18:35 but it was available, and, well, team a are incredibly dangerous 18:36 rip team a 18:36 team a have been winning for so long that nowadays the other teams refuse to play against them 18:37 [EU] [D]: Noisytoot (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 895 points, 1945 turns, killed by a hill orc 18:37 $lastgame 18:37 Noisytoot: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/peterg/tnnt/dumplog/1700415253.tnnt.html | [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Noisytoot/tnnt/dumplog/1700346413.tnnt.html | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/tnnt/dumplog/1700021346.tnnt.html 18:38 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 453 points, 2078 turns, killed by an orc zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:39 -!- Waffa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:41 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Loki, on T:16033 18:41 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12787 18:41 -!- xdminsy has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:43 [EU] [D]: Noisytoot (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 261 points, 945 turns, killed by a falling rock 18:45 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 585 points, 1506 turns, killed by a poisonous corpse 18:45 Noisytoot? 18:45 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 806 points, 1946 turns, killed by a wand, while helpless 18:46 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:28717 18:47 [EU] [D]: nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 252 points, 1002 turns, killed by Ms. Possogroenoe; the shopkeeper 18:47 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:48 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 18:49 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 18:50 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 71 points, 145 turns, killed by a jackal 18:51 [EU] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:589 18:52 -!- stagnate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:52 -!- kewldewd has joined #tnnt 18:52 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:86069 18:53 -!- Staengia has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:53 boot to the head! 18:53 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:13343 18:53 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:86071 18:53 Yah yah! Give them a boot to the head! 18:54 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 703 points, 1007 turns, fell into a pit 18:54 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:86078 18:54 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:13377 18:57 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:29666 18:57 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:57 -!- oh6 has joined #tnnt 18:57 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42333 18:57 24k turns in and I found my first scroll that costs 80 :O 18:58 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:42336 18:58 [EU] [D]: lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2514 points, 3737 turns, killed by an owlbear 18:58 -!- oh7 has joined #tnnt 18:58 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 603 points, 1924 turns, killed by a gnome lord 18:58 -!- anselmus has joined #tnnt 18:59 shit 3.6.6 doesn't have safe cleaver :( 18:59 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:42353 18:59 sorry foo 18:59 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:29775 18:59 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Dictyostelium's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:13754 19:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-19 19:00 UTC: Games: 21, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 40960 turns, 21564 points. (52%Hum), 11d 04:59 remaining. 19:00 [US] [D]: MoonPig (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 512 points, 960 turns, killed by a giant bat (and one other game not reported) 19:00 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 166 points, 818 turns, killed by a small mimic 19:00 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:29780 19:01 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 19:01 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:86390 19:02 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:02 -!- oh7 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:02 Playing as a wizard of course makes me long for my precious cornuthaum, waiting for me somewhere in this dungeon. 19:03 [EU] lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful fog cloud, on T:1286 19:03 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:86408 19:04 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:7512 19:04 [EU] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:59333 19:05 [EU] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 2642 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:59335 19:06 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 5351 points, 6840 turns, killed by a black unicorn 19:06 [EU] [D]: lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1722 points, 1670 turns, killed by a gray unicorn 19:06 -!- oh6 has joined #tnnt 19:06 go team u 19:06 [EU] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:59351 19:07 * anselmus tried on a pointed hat last game which turned out to be dunce cap 19:07 [US] Evendur (Ran Orc Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:734 19:07 anselmus, price id? 19:07 [EU] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:3198 19:07 u a dummy 19:07 that would've been the smart play 19:07 * docpi shakes hands with anselmus on intending to play smart(er) the next time 19:08 oh wow, the guaranteed first prayer didn't cure strangulation because I hadn't killed any crossaligned monsters 19:08 what a cornercase 19:08 (I cured it a different way) 19:08 docpi, I have a couple and am near the chest. I was hoping to toss in some really nice weapons, but would toss a carunthaum in if you want 19:08 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:43121 19:08 (SP) 19:09 [US] cathartes (Arc Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:3505 19:10 crunchbubba, I am unlikely to reach any swap chest this tournament, so it would be for someone else for sure. 19:10 [US] [D]: MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 926 points, 1249 turns, killed by a gnome (and 2 other games not reported) 19:10 .o(How do you find several cornuthaums in one game??) 19:10 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 211 points, 620 turns, killed by a hobbit 19:10 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 19:11 By a hobbit, ais523? By. a. hobbit?? 19:11 docpi: it's early game and I couldn't hit it 19:11 pacifist condict? 19:11 conduct 19:11 no, but I had no real incentive to try anything other than meleeing it to death 19:11 the game wasn't going so well anyway 19:12 like, if you have to spend escape items on a hobbit, the game is going terribly 19:12 it is possible to run but it takes ages and then you have nutrition trouble 19:12 lol: You kill the red mold! The quarterstaff smoulders! 19:12 Also, ais523, what is this odd corner case of cross-alignment, and getting saved from strangulation? 19:12 must be a 3.6 thing 19:12 I had that, too, today, anselmus. A bummer. 19:13 docpi: you need to have killed at least one alignment-granting monster in order for the guaranteed first prayer to cure major troubles 19:13 never seen it before 19:13 * docpi resolved from this month on to kill molds only with spells of force bolt. 19:13 the odds of not having done that are basically zero, but it can happen if you need an emergency prayer very early 19:13 Ooo, ais523, I see. 19:13 * anselmus resolved never to play 3.6 again 19:13 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:15164 19:13 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Val Hum Fem Neu), 315 points, 889 turns, killed by a giant bat 19:14 it's not, anselmus 19:14 Like, you only get help after having at least schown some effort to be worthy? 19:14 shown 19:14 docpi: yes, depending on role 19:14 [US] richards (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:5231 19:15 [EU] [D]: lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2277 points, 1689 turns, killed by an orcish arrow 19:15 * docpi envious about all those Magicbanes distributed left, and right, and not getting any. 19:15 can't pray before 300 anyway, by then you almost surely have killed one 19:15 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:27483 19:16 hothraxxa: well if you're being strangled you can pray at 100 19:16 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2517 19:16 which makes it a *bit* more likely (and it actually happened that game) 19:16 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:18404 19:17 [US] [D]: Evendur (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 648 points, 1794 turns, killed by a bugbear 19:17 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 200 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30865 19:18 [EU] [D]: nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4285 points, 5712 turns, killed by a rothe 19:18 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible high priestess of Moloch, on T:42887 19:18 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:42889 19:18 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:15359 19:20 [US] [D]: allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 4599 points, 8876 turns, killed by a soldier ant 19:21 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered Blacky, her faithful black dragon, on T:27891 19:21 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:31040 19:21 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:19266 19:21 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 168 points, 328 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 19:21 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided energy vortex, on T:43243 19:21 Speaking of playing smart: It took me three levels, and several forced chests, and broken doors before I remembered that my other starting spell was "knock". 19:22 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 284 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:31255 19:23 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Chromatic Dragon, on T:29211 19:23 -!- a-1 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:23 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29212 19:23 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2085 points, 1331 turns, killed by a giant mimic 19:24 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided class L, on T:15508 19:24 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a newt, on T:3485 19:24 "Cad! You did 400 zorkmids worth of damage!" Pay? [yn] (n)" 19:24 I learned my new word today 19:25 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:15523 19:25 [US] [D]: DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5604 points, 3591 turns, killed by a tengu 19:25 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:19267 19:25 [US] [D]: cathartes (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 1950 points, 4352 turns, killed by a magic missile 19:25 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 boots of speed", on T:15526 19:26 a1, did you break a shop wall or its door? 19:26 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:5150 19:26 [US] a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3486 19:27 yes, the door 19:27 [US] [D]: MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1288 points, 2601 turns, killed by an ape, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:27 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of telepathy", on T:15533 19:27 lol, fire brand just chilling in the middle of the quest 19:27 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:19268 19:27 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:31574 19:27 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:31575 19:28 [US] [D]: Evendur (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 475 points, 1347 turns, killed by a werejackal, while praying 19:28 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Dictyostelium's ghost, the former Stripling, on T:1590 19:30 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:15568 19:30 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 T-shirt", on T:19270 19:30 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:23764 19:32 [US] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:68584 19:32 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:31872 19:33 wth is a potion that sells for 56 19:33 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:87463 19:33 150 and the shopkeep is a butt 19:33 are you very charismatic? 19:33 wait, you selling it or shopkeep selling it? 19:34 if you selling it, it's a 150 and the shopkeep is stingy 19:34 on un-id'd items 19:34 oh right 19:35 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 12008 points, 6112 turns, killed by a killer bee, while fainted from lack of food 19:35 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2501 19:35 I am having an excellent run this time, gentletournamenters: The first grey stone I found was in a box, I did not think of #tip-ing the box, so I grabbed it. Yes, it was a loadstone. 19:36 The only other item in the box was a scroll of remove curse, so I used that to get rid of the loadstone, but only after naming it. 19:36 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:43592 19:37 So the next grey stone in a box is in a shop, sitting pretty all alone in it, and it costs only 1zm. A real bargain, eh? 19:37 lol, nice flint? or is it... second loadstone? 19:37 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:2685 19:37 would be flint if loadstone is type-named now and it's not called a loadstone 19:38 Indeed, cathartes, it is. Hence my story. 19:38 [US] [D]: DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3364 points, 2726 turns, killed by a snake (and 2 other games not reported) 19:38 I ate a tin of violet fungus to try to get poison resistance, then I ate an unknown tin while hallucinating, which turned out to be werewolves. Then I died. 19:38 [US] hilarita (Ran Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:952 19:39 So at least now I know that any other yet unknown grey stone I encounter in the game is actually worth getting. 19:39 Well, cathartes, that certainly is a creative death. Unique? 19:39 can a magic marker be charged more than one time? 19:39 isn't violet fungus low odds? 19:39 [US] OmegaDino (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10947 19:39 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:17370 19:39 well, I died of a magic missile, which isn't unique. 19:40 phinxy: only once 19:40 anselmus, I tried to see for a few weeks how far I would get eating all yellow molds, and violet fungi I encountered. Was not worth it. 19:40 violet fungus has 20% poison resist, which is maybe worth it if I can wait out the hallucination. 19:41 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 uncursed gain level", on T:33252 19:41 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 uncursed potions of gain level", on T:19333 19:41 yellow mold is 7%, which is not probably worth the hallucination 19:41 better than some others, sure 19:41 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:43820 19:41 Finally! 19:42 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1407 19:42 You bought an uncursed scroll of missing code for 5 gold pieces. 19:42 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:33285 19:42 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:33287 19:42 it was in the general store! lying a bit to the side so I thought it was a mimic at first 19:43 [US] [D]: hilarita (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 707 points, 1497 turns, killed by an elf zombie 19:43 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:33298 19:43 [EU] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 327 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:61622 19:43 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:17680 19:43 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:28885 19:44 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:24105 19:44 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed amulet of magical breathing", on T:29859 19:45 -!- dbanethacker has joined #tnnt 19:45 [US] [D]: MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 692 points, 1887 turns, killed by a kitten, while frozen by a monster's gaze 19:45 * karafruit thanks the yellow dragon that killed Cyclops for her 19:45 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:27734 19:45 * docpi generously gives ops to everyone 19:45 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27735 19:46 [US] [D]: haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 8678 points, 8641 turns, killed by an invisible stalker 19:46 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:33534 19:46 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:33537 19:46 I mean, what could possibly go wrong? 19:47 * docpi keeps an innocent face 19:47 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:24175 19:47 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:24176 19:47 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:33556 19:47 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:24177 19:48 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:25940 19:48 should rings be stacked when polypiling? tools and weapons should not, the wiki says. does magic tools apply? 19:48 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:17936 19:49 No, phinxy, magic items do not stack. 19:49 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:17938 19:49 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +2 Magicbane", on T:22950 19:49 Oh, you mean when polypiling? 19:49 I stack rings in piles of 2-3 usually 19:49 Sorry. 19:49 Never more than four items of a class 19:49 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:87823 19:49 I doubt I do it optimally, though 19:50 Unless you want to get a stone golem to slay, then put a lot of rocks on top. This is done intentionally in order to prevent shuddering, or some other golem, or something, I dimly remember. 19:50 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:4103 19:50 [US] [D]: richards (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 5010 points, 6920 turns, killed by a boiling potion 19:50 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3274 19:50 [US] malor (Cav Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 cloak of protection", on T:36957 19:50 And magic items resist shuddering, yes, so you could technically try 4+1 19:51 [US] NoobDoNethack (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:15469 19:51 Mostly resist shuddering 19:51 I don't think so 19:52 * docpi waits for the incoming shower of corrective measures from the devs, and ops, and experts, and veterans, and wiki authors, for rambling incompetently. 19:52 [US] [D]: allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1082 points, 3426 turns, killed by a dwarf, while reading a book 19:52 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43978 19:53 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:43979 19:53 Shuddering happens on stacks, with an increasing probability for larger stacks. Rings aren't stackable. 19:53 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:22365 19:53 Okay, gentletournamenters, I am going to consult the wiki on pratchett novels now. So far, I have been playing wikiless for the tournament, except for the page about game options. 19:53 Golem creation happens with an increasing probability if there are more items of the same material, and destroys most items of that material regardless of how they are stacked. 19:53 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 390 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:24435 19:54 HEnce the rocks on top, Noisytoot, to protect the other items? 19:54 Only one golem can be formed from a single pile, so it's trying to make a stone golem get formed so golems don't get formed from your more valuable non-mineral polyfodder 19:54 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:24487 19:55 [AU] [D]: madelotsofspaget (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3234 points, 2993 turns, killed himself by breaking a wand 19:56 [US] [D]: Evendur (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 2479 points, 2309 turns, killed by an ape, while praying 19:57 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:44105 19:57 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:18581 19:57 [US] malor (Cav Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:37238 19:57 [US] malor (Cav Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:37239 19:57 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 229 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:24656 19:58 Aaah, spoiler about the secret closet with the Pratchett novel in the devteam level... 19:58 * docpi mehs 19:58 Meh. 19:58 …why is there a master lich in minetown 19:59 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:44210 19:59 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4710 19:59 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:44212 19:59 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) became Hermes' Envoy of Balance, on T:25698 19:59 [US] [D]: haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 357 points, 1042 turns, killed by a bat, while praying 19:59 ais523, bones? 19:59 it doesn't look like bones 19:59 chameleon 19:59 I think it's more likely either chameleon or polytrap 20:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-19 20:00 UTC: Games: 32, Asc: 0, Scum: 3. 82848 turns, 70362 points. (21%Wiz), 11d 03:59 remaining. 20:00 MR 90, escape items won't work well here 20:00 if I leave the level, will it have changed to something else by the time I come back? 20:00 [EU] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:31294 20:00 I once had a lich pet briefly before dying in Minetown. Then I found my own bones in Minetown a few games later. I died quickly, and only afterwards realized where that lich had come from. 20:01 this game is in trouble if I can't do Minetown, I am considering letting it kill me for the unique death 20:01 Of course not, ais523, for monsters only move for turns while you are on their same level 20:01 there's a mon_catchup_elapsed_time 20:01 that simulates monster turns hwile you're offlevel 20:01 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed expensive camera", on T:88102 20:01 Ah! 20:02 * docpi ahed 20:02 The master lich turns into a kobold mummy! 20:02 I lost two HP bars but am alive 20:02 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:1531 20:02 orctown fufufufufu 20:03 So, chameleon. 20:03 [EU] [D]: lrrr (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 564 points, 3512 turns, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 20:03 fortunately it hit me into prayer range 20:03 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:88118 20:03 otherwise it would have been unsurvivable except by running 20:03 ais523, tame it? 20:03 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:36069 20:03 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:36070 20:03 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:25074 20:04 docpi: it's dead now 20:04 Is Arseniy going to extend his ascension streak again? 20:04 ais523, turn undead? 20:04 [US] [D]: Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law), 6274 points, 4568 turns, killed by a plains centaur 20:04 I'll just let it rot, I don't really want a tame chameleon 20:04 [US] [D]: allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 443 points, 1854 turns, killed by a wererat 20:05 especially because it might turn into something super-dangerous before it turns into something domestic 20:05 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3108 20:05 ais523, I always enjoy them. Makes the game hippy, and creative. 20:05 whew, idk what to do with my nudist run now that I've beaten the quest. Try to ascend, I guess, but dang that's gonna be tough. 20:05 -!- martinp_ has joined #tnnt 20:05 [US] OmegaDino (Pri Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12328 20:06 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:23418 20:07 [US] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:6475 20:07 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:88197 20:07 -!- martinp has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:07 wooo gogogo furey! 20:08 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 20:09 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:36350 20:09 [US] [A]: Furey (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 3045078 points, 88224 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/F/Furey/tnnt/dumplog/1700176117.tnnt.html 20:09 gg! :D 20:10 thanks! 20:10 i dunno how arena npc works, but if it's the most recent one, this furey npc is gonna be terrible 20:10 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 961 points, 2044 turns, killed by a giant spider 20:10 moreso than the one before with the six AoLSs and cursed scrolls of create monster? 20:11 gg Furey! 20:11 does the arena npc keep vorpy? 20:11 nope 20:11 no artifacts 20:11 oh, or did you mean terrible as in it won't do well 20:11 whew 20:12 Id like to enchant my steeds weapon, how do i make her drop it? 20:12 [US] rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8688 20:12 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:36424 20:12 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3076 20:13 [US] [D]: haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 900 points, 1626 turns, killed by a giant bat 20:13 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) has entered the Arena, on T:20100 20:13 zero aols, didn't bother equipping a shield so it will probably use a +0 unihorn, although in life this character became expert with unihorn (good weapon for healer) 20:14 -!- martinp_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:15 cockatrice corpses and cursed create monster are the most dangerous things a dm npc can have 20:15 -!- ChanServ has quit [shutting down] 20:15 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1261 points, 2284 turns, killed by a small mimic 20:15 [EU] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:36473 20:15 with enough ac even a +7 long sword is not that scary 20:16 There it is! Everyone quick grab your ops! 20:16 [EU] [D]: Noisytoot (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 4331 points, 6618 turns, killed by a killer bee 20:16 [EU] [A]: DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1664932 points, 36501 turns, ascended 20:16 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DoktorL/tnnt/dumplog/1700394357.tnnt.html 20:16 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Grouchy the Necromancer in a deathmatch, on T:20362 20:17 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:45270 20:17 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 2470 points, 3553 turns, killed by a giant spider 20:17 i think cockatrice corpse is worthless. most players have figured out to peek into arena, portal back out, come back after corpses have evaporated. (unless arena has special code to not decay corpses) 20:18 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10836 20:18 grats arseniy! 20:18 phinxy: grab it with a bullwhip 20:18 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:23823 20:18 (the weapon) 20:18 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "marker", on T:26465 20:19 and thanks mobileuser for the gray dragon scales, this paltry healer would surely have died without MR 20:19 \o/ 20:19 This is a new message for me, "The dwarf digs in." (it's a tame dwarf) 20:19 i haven't thought of that 20:19 -!- ChanServ has joined #tnnt 20:19 -!- mode/#tnnt [+o ChanServ] by osmium.libera.chat 20:20 [US] [D]: DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5204 points, 3960 turns, killed by a gray unicorn 20:21 -!- martinp has joined #tnnt 20:21 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) averted death (killed by the Wizard of Yendor disguised as a trapper), on T:45499 20:22 [US] [D]: Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 122 points, 152 turns, killed by a gecko 20:22 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:45583 20:22 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:26680 20:23 [US] disperse (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:26681 20:24 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1158 points, 5295 turns, killed by a dwarf, while fainted from lack of food (and 2 other games not reported) 20:24 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:20575 20:24 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:46176 20:24 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:46178 20:25 Furey: thanks 20:25 oh right, there was a cockatrice nest on this floor... *runs away like a coward and sends in the yellow dragon* 20:25 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:20654 20:25 arseniy for president 20:25 cockatrice corpses and cursed create monster are the most dangerous things a dm npc can have 20:25 cockatrice eggs 20:25 By the way, you can recharge a magic marker twice, technically 20:25 .oO("technically"?) 20:26 [US] [D]: haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 584 points, 1994 turns, killed by a magic missile 20:26 doesn't mean it will work, but you will kind of be charging it :) 20:27 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:59017 20:27 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 20:27 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:59019 20:27 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:4540 20:27 [US] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:2901 20:28 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 19082 points, 9653 turns, killed by a priestess of Ptah (and 61 other games not reported) 20:28 cbus: president of Swedish Nethack Association, probably 20:29 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:6978 20:30 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1367 points, 1978 turns, killed by a giant bat 20:30 Yes, actually, I found _two_ kittens here. 20:30 or pehaps you find one and the other one found you 20:30 Kind of, Arseniy, yes. 20:31 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:45926 20:31 kittensfindsdocpi 20:31 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:45927 20:31 [US] [D]: haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 566 points, 860 turns, killed by a wand 20:31 You begin bashing monsters with your lamp called oil. You hit the chickatrice. 20:31 wow was that close (I don't have gloves) 20:31 arseniy, ais523, spontiff the great is playing pacifist 20:31 if anyone wants a fun game to observe 20:31 I'm busy with my own game atm 20:31 sorry to ping you spontiff, best of luck! 20:32 hm... satiated and a wraith corpse... probably worth momentarily using that "oMB for... 20:32 :) thanks.  not sure I deserve such flattery 20:32 pacifist is crazy hard with the UI challenge on top of the gameplay challenge 20:32 karafruit: definitely, unless you want to die 20:32 [US] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:70664 20:33 well I meant, worth using it and eating it, vs leaving it there 20:33 gg Arseniy! 20:33 [US] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:70674 20:33 arseniy, the president thing was for the win btw :D 20:33 if you didnt ge tit 20:33 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased partly eaten spellbook of identify named the scrolls of identify", on T:59884 20:33 gj 20:34 [US] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:70690 20:34 he is royalty not a civil servant 20:35 [US] Nesta (Bar Orc Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1286 20:35 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:46519 20:36 [EU] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed touchstone", on T:32282 20:36 [US] [D]: Nesta (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 289 points, 1369 turns, killed by a gnome 20:37 Not royalty, only a distant descendant of Polish noble family 20:37 8x6 beehive... *senses royal jelly nearby* 20:37 [US] Loggers (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1710 20:37 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a hobbit corpse, on T:5894 20:38 [US] [D]: hilarita (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 299 points, 1092 turns, killed by a large mimic 20:38 Online communication reached a peak with IRC and has only declined. 20:38 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:14965 20:39 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:46209 20:39 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 6678 points, 6023 turns, killed by a barrow wight 20:40 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3841 20:40 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Scuzzery's ghost, the former Adept, on T:3913 20:40 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:21724 20:41 dammit, accidentally hit one of the watch with an arrow so now I have to kill all of them 20:42 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:42 I was watching that Loggers, and I just thought you were crazy enough to start that fight on purpose 20:42 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:46286 20:43 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 20:43 Now I expected you to take on the priest at level 7-8 20:43 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1129 points, 1779 turns, killed by a golden naga hatchling 20:43 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8087 20:43 nesta yknow I was just thinking about that 20:44 with scrolls of earth it can be done 20:44 it's much easier to trap a priest while covering the altar than to separate them from altar 20:44 and then you just need enough ammo 20:44 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1589 points, 2962 turns, killed by a soldier ant 20:44 Loggers_VIII I usually play elf rangers and I've caused a lot of minetown accidents. My best was converting a lawful temple by offering the priest. 20:44 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6784 20:45 lol 20:45 Nesta the Kick-Ass 20:45  ohi there aleax with demonbane... 20:45 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2061 points, 4516 turns, killed by a rabid rat (and one other game not reported) 20:45 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) removed Bean's blessed scroll of remove curse from the swap chest, on T:22072 20:46 it was an accident. always is w/stormy 20:46 where's the swap chest on the wine cellar level? 20:46 next to the fountain 20:46 HalNovek: at least you'll get "The Grand Tour" achievement 20:46 bottom left by the fountain 20:47 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:46349 20:47 Loggers' situation just gets more and more crazy 20:47 [US] [D]: Loggers (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 7771 points, 2766 turns, killed by a kitten, while praying (and one other game not reported) 20:48 to get the grand tour you have step on every altar 20:48 aww 20:48 lol 20:48 -!- martinp has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:48 rangers are really powerful 20:48 haven't played one in a while so I had forgotten 20:49 You see here a magic marker. 20:49 [EU] HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:46724 20:49 channelling my inner Rodney with this pet hell hound :) 20:49 [US] [D]: MoonPig (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 3799 points, 3671 turns, killed by an ogre 20:49 those have decent level cap don't they 20:49 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) removed disperse's uncursed +0 helm of brilliance from the swap chest, on T:8171 20:49 I think so 20:49 23 maybe? 20:49 Loggers_VIII i almost play elf rangers exclusively and I've gotten myself into very similar situations! Watchmen can't take an arrow any better than kittens! 20:50 heh 20:50 -!- stagnate has joined #tnnt 20:50 Hmm, if they use their breath weapons in 3.6.2 I might have to ditch it.  Can't risk potions and scrolls going up in flames 20:50 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:22409 20:51 splat! :( 20:51 holy fucking shit 20:51 [US] efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed cornuthaum", on T:46383 20:51 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22411 20:51 lol stone giant killed by bear trap 20:51 tried too hard to get the achievement. Didn't remember I already invoked the Staff before! 20:51 couldn't cast the spells because too few PW 20:52 HalNovek: at least that was epic 20:52 and lost my potion of full healing 20:52 Yes, this is my first ascension splat! :) 20:52 I'll remember it for quite some time! LOL 20:52 ouch 20:52 -!- martinp has joined #tnnt 20:52 what achievement? 20:52 [EU] [D]: HalNovek (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 822607 points, 46733 turns, killed by Famine (with the Amulet), while fainted from lack of food 20:52 spontiff do you think that's worse than wielding firebrand? 20:52 to not kill the riders 20:53 so I didn't use conflict 20:53 [US] [A]: efot (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 2195656 points, 46385 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/efot/tnnt/dumplog/1700321974.tnnt.html 20:53 and when I had to, it was too late 20:53 !lastgame HalNovek 20:53 It's about the same, I guess.  But I can't risk losing sources of blank scrolls and holy water with no death drops 20:53 $lastgame HalNovek 20:53 terrapin: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/H/HalNovek/tnnt/dumplog/1700229939.tnnt.html 20:53 HalNovek: into the club you come 20:53 High risk, mumble reward 20:53 Oh no! :( 20:53 We need two more for #1 spot on "most splats" leaderboard. 20:54 :( 20:54 I'm coaching nurdglaw, maybe he'll get us one. 20:54 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:54 why not wish for hooa? 20:54 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:5839 20:54 I was neutral 20:55 because looks like you had reached at least 2 altars 20:55 oh i see 20:55 you are right, but didn't thing to actually need it... 20:55 that's a reason to wish for hooa 20:56 blessed be, HalNovek, no judgement is upon you! 20:56 [US] [D]: haldisse (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 648 points, 3098 turns, killed by a wererat 20:56 boulders are your friend if going for the don't-kill-riders achievement 20:56 do scrolls of earth work? 20:56 nope 20:56 no, you gotta wish for them 20:56 totally worth it though 20:56 wish for boulders 20:57 one boulder at a time 20:57 actually the riders are a) slow and b) flee from cameras 20:57 oh, didn't know this strategy 20:57 I had a camera 20:57 extra credit for wishing in all caps BOULDER 20:57 and used it, but I had to go full tour 20:57 plus, it's a limited-time cheese---it no longer works in 3.7. Wish now while supplies last! 20:57 i have only kiled one rider in four ascensions and i really didn't need to kill that one 20:57 -!- martinp_ has joined #tnnt 20:57 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:22545 20:57 did they nerf bugles already? 20:57 I managed to use the camera to reach two of the three altars 20:58 -!- Nesta has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:58 bugles work quite nicely in 3.6.6 20:58 I actually forgot my bugle, in fact I nearly died in the Plane of Air 20:58 they can scare angels 20:58 who's they, and no. 20:58 I had to use conflict + a potion of levitation 20:58 didn't know it worked against angels too, but forgot mine... 20:58 spellbook of charm monster is OP on air plane 20:59 -!- Nesta has joined #tnnt 20:59 also on astral in 3.6.6 20:59 because insects 20:59 good point 20:59 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:12715 20:59 although i always get a magic harp myself 20:59 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) removed disperse's uncursed amulet of life saving from the swap chest, on T:6030 20:59 nice that tnnt warns me of bones, because I didn't see it myself 20:59 TNNT is running on 3.6.7 (which ruined my streak), are there any significant differences? 21:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-19 21:00 UTC: Games: 34, Asc: 3, Scum: 5. 295123 turns, 7797907 points. (34%Cha), 11d 02:59 remaining. 21:00 tnnt is not on 3.6.7 21:00 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:11391 21:00 so it's reporting 3.6.7 21:00 -!- martinp has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:00 hmm DragonSidedD where did you leave your stuff 21:00 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:30880 21:00 is it? it's 3.6.6 pretty sure 21:00 $lastgame HalNovek 21:00 wop: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/H/HalNovek/tnnt/dumplog/1700229939.tnnt.html 21:01 look at the build at top 21:01 hm. so it does 21:01 [US] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:71436 21:01 it's not 3.6.7 though 21:01 so my streak is broken for no reason reee 21:01 [US] oh6 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:71446 21:01 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 8444 points, 4275 turns, killed by a panther 21:02 gogogo oh6! 21:03 got kicked off irc during some griefing attack on #nethack 21:03 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6431 21:04 [US] eitbo (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:56861 21:04 what I missed was the answer to whether ?oEarth work on Astral (don't you have to rev-geno storm giants?) 21:04 the answer is no, it does not 21:05 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 257 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:22931 21:05 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 The Staff of Aesculapius", on T:8993 21:05 sorry Nesta, I know you're a sistah 21:06 elenmirie: no, I just want to be able to lay dragon eggs 21:06 what kind of dragon? 21:07 in 3.6 pet dragons use breath weapons and I want 8. Let's go with black! 21:07 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:23063 21:07 with stone-to-flesh I could probably keep them all fed 21:08 ais523: hm! 21:08 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3074 points, 3385 turns, killed by a werewolf 21:08 damn master mind flayer in the mines 21:08 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class L, on T:29425 21:08 anselmus: maybe not the best long-term wish but I think it's very powerful for at least reaching the Castle 21:08 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:29426 21:08 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Andrio's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:6720 21:08 I'm expert in quarterstaff already 21:08 and, well, if this makes Sokoban easier and Gehennom more interesting I'm all for it 21:08 hopefully you got the +2 21:08 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1308 points, 2941 turns, killed by a giant spider 21:09 How do you spell "Assclaplosenges" tho 21:09 as in the staff of aesculapius? 21:09 [US] NoobDoNethack (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:18936 21:09 idk I just got mine off this Cyclops guy 21:09 -!- stagnate has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:09 i would def misspell it if wising 21:10 [US] [D]: allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1988 points, 5276 turns, killed by a watchman 21:10 i wise all the time. i'm a well-known wise guy 21:10 [US] richards (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered Hachi, his faithful dog, on T:1643 21:10 [US] [D]: haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 179 points, 506 turns, killed by a brown mold 21:10 you make extremely wise wishes 21:10 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 222 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:23499 21:11 i try 21:11 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) removed k2's uncursed +0 set of green dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:6998 21:11 Nesta: It's spelled Assbanditstofwhotsit 21:12 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:12 [US] [D]: NoobDoNethack (Val Hum Fem Law), 44634 points, 18993 turns, killed by an invisible werewolf 21:12 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:4489 21:14 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:14 * ais523 actually formally IDs gems for once 21:14 it may be the best way to afford an early round of protection 21:15 I'd probably misspell aethiopica too 21:15 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:23891 21:15 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:30731 21:15 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:23892 21:15 hmm this is an interesting minetown 21:15 I never touched her, guv. 21:16 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed MoonPig's ghost, the former Adept, on T:5186 21:16 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed peterg's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:9496 21:16 an early blessed touchstone made a surprisingly big difference, and I want another dose of that! 21:16 might start playing arcs now 21:17 * anselmus books another orctown reservation for nesta 21:17 -!- joes has joined #tnnt 21:18 Gnomes also work 21:18 Gnomish arcs? Now that's just redundant 21:18 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) destroyed xororand's ghost, the former Priest, on T:25375 21:19 Using cursed touchstones as blessed (don't think it actually works like that) 21:19 [US] [D]: MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 755 points, 1219 turns, killed by a giant rat 21:20 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:24584 21:21 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 750 points, 624 turns, killed by a dwarf 21:21 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:25074 21:21 just need to stack one more layer on then you can use flint stones as touchstones :D 21:22 [US] [D]: hilarita (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3947 points, 3591 turns, poisoned by an orcish arrow 21:22 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:24865 21:22 hm... going into the arena on a nudist playthrough seems... unwise 21:22 -!- martinp_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:22 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided class g, on T:24870 21:23 [US] [D]: klepto (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2544 points, 2974 turns, killed by a gnome lord 21:23 [US] Nesta (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1379 21:24 [EU] Evilparsnips (Pri Elf Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Loki, on T:25869 21:27 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:27 -!- martinp has joined #tnnt 21:28 o - a wand of wishing (0:2) (unpaid, 667 zorkmids). 21:28 wait till you're bored during the grind between the candlestick and the book 21:28 time to raise some money or kill that shk 21:29 [EU] stenno (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:3106 21:29 nice! 21:29 aww: An expensive camera shatters into a thousand pieces! 21:30 yey, got my pet to steal that wand! 21:30 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "3 blessed charging", on T:1193 21:30 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:1194 21:30 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:1196 21:31 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +3 gauntlets of power", on T:1203 21:31 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +3 water walking boots", on T:1205 21:31 dang, people finding all these wands of wishing, and I can't even get a magic lamp 21:31 don't think I've seen a single smoky potion either 21:31 it was my first /oW in TNNT 21:32 I've had a few lucky /oW drops, to be fair. just not this run 21:32 What do you want to eat? [dip or ?*] 21:34 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed drum of earthquake", on T:26405 21:34 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) found kitten, on T:2027 21:34 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: spontiff] 21:34 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:26409 21:34 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:26410 21:36 Ogunairuk of Aigrisaibane zaps herself with an oak wand! brown mold called Ogunairuk of Aigrisaibane 21:36 well played 21:37 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:26708 21:37 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:933 21:38 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:25730 21:38 I don't know what that is, but it's not kitten. 21:38 Um.. it's a red mold corpse 21:38 [US] [D]: a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 668 points, 4422 turns, killed by a Kop Sergeant 21:39 TIL that red moulds can spawn on top of the NKIs 21:40   is there a way to make your pet aware of traps w/o intentionally stepping into them? I assume they don't benefit from you finding them 21:40 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 197 points, 1119 turns, killed by a bat 21:40 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:26875 21:41 don't they? 21:41 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:26878 21:41 Searching works, as long as the pet doesn't find it before you do. 21:42 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2012 points, 3385 turns, killed by a white unicorn 21:42 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9245 21:42 is it different if they're leashed? 21:43 [US] haldisse (Arc Dwa Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an octagonal amulet on an altar, on T:3715 21:43 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 1039 points, 1637 turns, killed by a hill orc 21:43 at least when they're leashed you get an indication when they've discovered the trap 21:44 [EU] stenno (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a pyrolisk corpse, on T:4520 21:44 a leashed pet will whine near a trap 21:44 They're less likely to avoid traps when they're leashed. 21:44 Especially if you're next to the trap but haven't seen it yet 21:45 less likely is putting it mildly :) 21:45 well dogs whine. i forget what cats and horses do 21:45 yeah.. 21:45 upshot is a leashed pet warns you 21:45 mew and whinny? idk 21:46 prolly 21:46 anselmus you bastard. orctown confirmed my reservation. 21:46 * Nesta cannot. even. 21:46 lol! 21:46 -!- phinxy has joined #tnnt 21:47 haha 21:47 * anselmus is about to start the assault on one 21:47 [US] gruefood (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:59813 21:48 * karafruit has never gotten an orctown yet 21:48 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12499 21:48 Nesta (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 9482 points, 3027 turns, quit 21:49 I'll come back on a ki-rin. maybe they validate parking. 21:50 [US] [D]: Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 565 points, 2542 turns, killed by a magic missile 21:50 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:28425 21:51 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a jabberwock, on T:7375 21:51 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:25903 21:51 was nice knowing you, +1 crystal plate mail 21:52 at least you can kick some decent arse while this lasts 21:52 haha yeah...was already kicking ass with excal tho 21:53 but maybe that random amulet I'm wearing is unchanging 21:53 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7587 21:54 [EU] stenno (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6002 21:55 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:28759 21:56 [US] [D]: hilarita (Val Dwa Fem Law), 840 points, 1452 turns, killed by a giant rat 21:56 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) removed DoktorL's uncursed +0 set of gray dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:14823 21:56 I wonder what happens if two people are on the same swap chest screen...are they able to both take the same item? 21:57 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) removed tjw's uncursed +0 set of gray dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:7732 21:57 source? 21:57 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:57 * crunchbubba wondered about that as well. 21:57 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:29170 21:58 I didn't source dive that, just the messages the chest can give 21:58 it's not that easy to implement this completely without race conditions 21:58 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:58 there's probably a thousand man-years of c debugging in this chat let's find the race 21:58 exactly 21:59 at one point in the dim distant past, I was the semaphore guru 22:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-19 22:00 UTC: Games: 16, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 0d 13:34 gametime. (56%Hum), 11d 01:59 remaining. 22:01 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1236 points, 3716 turns, killed by a giant ant 22:02 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:2114 22:03 [EU] mobileuser (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15069 22:03  /me just realized she can use the PYEC to upcharge some of her bad/useless rings 22:04 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 22:04 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:8007 22:04 [US] spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Pestilence, on T:29476 22:05 [US] [A]: spazm (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1430926 points, 29501 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/spazm/tnnt/dumplog/1700409411.tnnt.html 22:05 in 3.7 shocking spheres are much nicer because they will charge your rings too 22:05 gg 22:08 gg spazm 22:08 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) averted death (poisoned by a vampire bat), on T:14719 22:08 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:33597 22:09 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33606 22:10 [US] haldisse (Arc Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:5859 22:10 so many ; around... I do not like :c 22:10 after sploding a +1 ring of prot i am spooked by anything that charges 22:10 I just lost a few rings to an electric eel :c 22:10 [EU] [D]: stenno (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 18840 points, 8012 turns, killed by an invisible stalker 22:10 but nothing important 22:11 or at least, nothing I didn't have a spare of 22:11 still haven't found any rings of lev tho 22:11 might have to turn into a v lord 22:11 [US] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:53462 22:11 [US] [D]: haldisse (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1200 points, 6135 turns, killed by a pony 22:12 -!- HalNovek has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:13 [US] [D]: allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 532 points, 1651 turns, killed by a gnome lord 22:14 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3716 22:15 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:10955 22:15 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15055 22:16 [US] WizardOfPoland (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:26657 22:16 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:32756 22:18 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) removed efot's uncursed bag of holding from the swap chest, on T:4106 22:18 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3113 points, 3689 turns, killed by a rope golem, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:18 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) removed kewldewd's uncursed +0 pair of gauntlets of power from the swap chest, on T:15063 22:19 [US] eitwinston (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:11246 22:21 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:21 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1106 points, 3155 turns, killed by a dwarf king 22:24 [US] [D]: allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 710 points, 1570 turns, killed by a cave spider 22:25 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:34012 22:25 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:29285 22:25 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:4752 22:25 nice, found a magic lamp in a shop in minetown and another one in a shop in the main dungeon 22:26 yet... no altars so far 22:26 -!- cathartes has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:26 yay, found my first altar, chaotuc but 22:26 *chaotic 22:26 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:34035 22:27 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 156 points, 207 turns, killed by a large mimic 22:27 nice, big shop with 2 magic markers 22:27 can you imagine if a nethack character stumbled into a walmart? 22:28 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism by offering a fox corpse on an altar of Loki, on T:5191 22:28 hahaha 22:29 [US] [D]: terrapin (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 567 points, 2029 turns, killed by a killer bee 22:30 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) averted death (killed by life drainage), on T:29909 22:36 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:15668 22:39 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 741 points, 1407 turns, killed by a gnome, while praying 22:39 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:44 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "cursed magic marker", on T:30092 22:44 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11884 22:45 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:45 efot: so much stuff and the prices are ok but why is everything cursed? 22:45 hehe 22:46 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7698 22:46 [US] [D]: allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 402 points, 1456 turns, killed by a giant bat 22:49 Gonna need a pet, a poly trap and a magic whistle. Come back in a couple hundred turns with a random unrated dragon who just so happens to kill everyone there 22:49 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1141 points, 2667 turns, killed by a straw golem, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:49 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:12396 22:50 [US] efot (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:12398 22:50 that was a good throne 22:50 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:837 22:51 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:51 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:876 22:52 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:887 22:52 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:890 22:56 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 766 points, 2147 turns, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 22:57 * ais523 kills an arch-lich on dlvl 15, xlvl 11 22:57 …which is much too early, those things are difficulty 29 22:57 aha, there is a polytrap 22:58 why does 3.7 make shapeshifters respect difficulty but not polytraps? 22:58 * ais523 covers it with a boulder 22:58 You feel very firm. 22:59 I am getting intrinsics in totally the wrong order this game 22:59 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:30657 23:00 perhaps if you nerf polytraps, it would have to apply to your pets as well? 23:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-19 23:00 UTC: Games: 14, Asc: 1, Scum: 0. 67342 turns, 1461436 points. (57%Neu), 11d 00:59 remaining. 23:00 $lastgame Dictyostelium 23:00 Noisytoot: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/D/Dictyostelium/tnnt/dumplog/1700429046.tnnt.html 23:00 * ais523 jumps repeatedly until no longer satiated 23:01 not going to risk losing a game to black dragon corpses, those things are really dangerous nutrition-wise 23:03 * karafruit has been eating huge chunks of meat and has no idea what you're talking about 23:03 [EU] Noisytoot (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Dictyostelium's ghost, the former Pillager, on T:1963 23:03 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed amulet of life saving", on T:16228 23:03 it's safe as long as you're not satiated 23:03 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:31625 23:03 this game is now in the "only dies to stupidity/typos" range 23:03 so lifesaving is the 100% best wish 23:04 Noisytoot: but then the *next* comestible isn't safe 23:05 why did 3.6 change the prompt for if you really want to overeat to be the other way round from 3.4.3? 23:05 "only" fatal stupidity 23:05 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:05 the 3.6 way round is more sensbile, so it has to be changed at some point 23:05 "They say that playing NetHack is like walking into a death trap." 23:05 imagine jumanji but nethack 23:05 the change has prevented a number of my own yasds 23:06 which came first? 23:06 it should be configurable as an option, for people who are used to one or the other 23:06 [US] Ardub (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:35107 23:07 [US] [D]: peterg (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 304 points, 987 turns, killed by an iguana 23:07 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:08 [US] [D]: spleen (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 410 points, 283 turns, killed by a gnome lord 23:08 the root cause of choking deaths is often the lack of a means to generate hunger 23:08 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 18012 points, 21297 turns, killed by a burning scroll 23:09 aWA 23:10 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 222 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33098 23:10 don't wear a robe near the fireplace kids 23:10 if it's genuine rayon it has that sizzle 23:11 [US] allanb (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:1963 23:11 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Scorpius, on T:28159 23:11 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28167 23:14 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof wand of polymorph named Ringbane", on T:34388 23:15 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "cursed magic marker", on T:31314 23:16 [EU] ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:17236 23:16 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:34409 23:18 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 332 points, 1076 turns, killed by a giant bat 23:19 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 23:20 [US] [D]: haldisse (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 3390 points, 2848 turns, killed by a bolt of cold, while sleeping 23:20 dang what's a healer gotta do to get a ring of levitation 23:24 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) genocided energy vortex, on T:28253 23:24 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 326 points, 1133 turns, killed by a dwarf 23:25 Have you tried kicking sinks? 23:25 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:34807 23:25 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:95514 23:27 is there any downside to eating a cursed ring? 23:27 from it being cursed, I mean, I know what the ring is 23:28 bleh! rotten metal! 23:28 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:24350 23:28 * karafruit now knows 23:29 * karafruit accidentally ate a wand of teleportation because it was on e and she pressed e twice 23:30 lessons in paranoid play arrive one by one 23:30 yay, got 4 levels from eating wraiths from a graveyard 23:30 lured them upstairs 23:30 I'm just glad I didn't eat anything more important 23:31 -!- charlie14690 has joined #tnnt 23:31 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:30908 23:32 yall i have a +1 green dragon scale mail and a ring of levitation, can't decide which to put in swapchest 23:32 "ring of levitation" answers karafruit selfishly 23:32 you've already put two things in? 23:33 [US] rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:10885 23:33 yeah this is my third and final item 23:33 on the last swap chest 23:34 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:34 idk, I personally need a ring of levitation so I think you should put that in ;P but also, most people probably won't take green scale mail since they'd eventually replace it with gray or silver anyway, I'd imagine 23:34 i already put dragon scales into the swap chest, floaty ring it is 23:35 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:13608 23:35 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1387 points, 2684 turns, poisoned by a giant spider 23:35 yey 23:35 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed partly eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:30964 23:36 -!- stagnate has joined #tnnt 23:37 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 665 points, 1123 turns, killed by a giant bat, while fainted from lack of food 23:37 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:38 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:96316 23:38 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:30975 23:38 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:96326 23:39 [US] eitbo (Tou Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:59094 23:39 i already put a spare set of gray dragon scales into the chest a day ago and i dont think anyones touched that 23:39 aha, finally got polypile'd a ring of levitation 23:40 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:96485 23:40 [US] tjw (Cav Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 93 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33972 23:40 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:14564 23:40 now that I got the quest, I can finally break genoless 23:41 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:15678 23:41 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided class m, on T:98865 23:42 -!- Waffa has joined #tnnt 23:43 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of death named One Hit Wonder", on T:14646 23:43 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:764 23:44 [US] rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "the blessed eyes of the overworld", on T:11595 23:45 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:8374 23:46 [US] haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 throwing stars on an altar, on T:3170 23:47 [US] elron (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:35210 23:48 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) has entered the Arena, on T:24898 23:49 [US] schoen (Bar Hum Fem Neu) murdered Soweli, her faithful mountain centaur, on T:9023 23:50 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Ixoth, on T:24432 23:50 [US] mikew999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed karafruit the Enchanter in a deathmatch, on T:24933 23:50 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:50 The fire giant zaps a wand of striking! The drawbridge collapses into the lava! 23:50 my heart skipped a beat here 23:50 [AU] unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:31023 23:51 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:15150 23:51 [US] BEHiker91W (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:29567 23:51 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:15155 23:51 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24445 23:53 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:61633 23:54 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 10890 points, 12372 turns, killed by a Grey-elf (and 4 other games not reported) 23:55 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed xororand's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:2286 23:55 -!- oh6 has joined #tnnt 23:56 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "marker named The pen is mightier than the sword", on T:36151 23:56 -!- oh7 has joined #tnnt 23:57 [US] karafruit (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "marker", on T:36152 23:57 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 22 points, 352 turns, killed by a fox 23:57 [US] haldisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4008 23:57 [AU] [A]: unit327 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1763282 points, 31035 turns, ascended 23:57 https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/u/unit327/tnnt/dumplog/1700037571.tnnt.html 23:58 ooh, :98 and :88 on the markers, sweet!