00:00 DAILY STATS AT 2023-11-11 00:00 UTC: Games: 426, Asc: 11, Scum: 164. 1485720 turns, 30463077 points. 14d 19:53 gametime. (19%Wiz), (40%Hum), (45%Neu), (62%Fem), 19d 23:59 remaining. 00:00 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a blue jelly, on T:6976 00:00 d'oh 00:01 oh no arahael, bummer 00:01 being a blue jelly is not fun 00:01 I can't move...and when things try to hit me they die 00:01 qt: It's annoying. :D 00:01 the trick is to not put on an amulet of unchanging 00:01 could you potentially magic marker another missing code scroll? 00:01 assuming you read one 00:01 I don't think so Mitzutsune but good question 00:01 I had a missing code get burned last game 00:02 No 00:02 (blue jelly + unchanging is fun… in wizmode… once) 00:02 (but it does not do much for your victory chances) 00:02 yeah it doesn't let you do it. for some reason the message is "Without a compiler, that would probably be a bad idea..." 00:02 People have asked repeatedly but no, you can't 00:02 idk why you can't write C code without a compiler. I guess because you can't check to see if it compiles or bugtest it? maybe that's the joke 00:02 Well yeah, you can't just write any old C in and not test if it compiles 00:02 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 520 points, 1316 turns, killed by a giant rat 00:03 you wouldn't like to see my PR process Umbire 00:03 Umbire: My uni was a lie, then! 00:03 I have taught C before, one of the students tried to do the course using pencil and paper rather than a computer 00:03 it did not go well 00:03 lol 00:03 lmao 00:03 wow 00:03 did the student not own a computer? 00:04 [EU] DoktorL (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:30573 00:04 by the way, about swap chests. If I don't like anything in there, is it possible for me to just not take anything from it and come back later on to a different pool? 00:04 didn't the college have a computer lab or sth? 00:04 it didn't matter, we had labs full of computers that the students could use 00:04 [EU] Arasaka (Cav Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:56164 00:04 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7780 00:04 Mitzutsune yes 00:04 cool thanks 00:05 [EU] DoktorL (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:30653 00:05 [US] Dx34 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8889 00:06 [US] Dx34 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a fire giant, on T:8913 00:07 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) removed AmElm's uncursed +0 set of silver dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:7980 00:07 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:36636 00:07 ALL - we've setup a payment portal for t-shirts on the hardfought website - https://www.hardfought.org/shop/ - TNNT 2023 shirts are not ready yet, but I do have some old and never worn hdf t-shirts remaining from way back when, there's about 36 left in various sizes. if interested, feel free to check it out and order 00:07 -!- kewldewd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:07 Freaking Nalzok summonig demon lords :c 00:08 K2: I appreciate the sentiment but i want one from the dev team office. 00:08 [US] jackbunny (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:61964 00:08 old school hdf tshirt > devteam office shirt 00:08 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3233 00:08 :P 00:08 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) removed stenno's uncursed ring of regeneration from the swap chest, on T:9726 00:09 K2: NOOo! I want the devteam office shirt! :P 00:09 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:17920 00:10 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:10 [US] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a dwarf king, on T:5100 00:10 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9987 00:10 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 00:10 [EU] DoktorL (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:31857 00:10 [US] jmcunx (Ran Orc Fem Cha) murdered Sirius, her faithful little dog, on T:1451 00:11 [EU] [D]: ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 3104 points, 3346 turns, killed by a dwarf (and 17 other games not reported) 00:12 [EU] DoktorL (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:32006 00:13 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:13 hmm, you can't dip into a water pool if you're levitating, right? 00:14 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:18317 00:14 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 00:14 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Nalzok, on T:36722 00:14 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:18318 00:16 [US] Dx34 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:9205 00:16 [EU] Arasaka (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:56485 00:17 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:843 00:17 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2532 points, 1643 turns, killed by an ettin mummy 00:17 [EU] Arasaka (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:56494 00:18 [EU] DoktorL (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:32887 00:18 [EU] DoktorL (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:32889 00:21 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:36841 00:21 whoever came up with the Omelet of Yendor achievement is an absolute genius. 00:23 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) removed Bean's uncursed +0 pair of speed boots from the swap chest, on T:16872 00:24 [EU] [D]: ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 934 points, 2133 turns, killed by hallucinogen-distorted Mr. Tsedong; the shopkeeper 00:24 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17282 00:25 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:11531 00:26 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 821 points, 2619 turns, killed by a falling rock 00:26 https://i.imgur.com/LUHN6U2.png 00:26 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 00:27 [EU] [D]: ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 94 points, 385 turns, killed by a water moccasin (and 5 other games not reported) 00:27 You fire resistant? Burnable stuff in a bag? etc.? 00:27 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 529 points, 1928 turns, killed by a giant bat 00:27 [US] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) removed klepto's uncursed +0 pair of speed boots from the swap chest, on T:6229 00:28 I ended up striking the gas spore and that gave me enough space to get out of there Umbire 00:28 [EU] DoktorL (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:33228 00:28 heh that sounds like a cool move 00:29 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:32470 00:29 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:32471 00:29 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:32472 00:30 [EU] kh (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:13586 00:30 [US] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6399 00:30 [EU] [A]: DoktorL (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2066510 points, 33250 turns, ascended 00:30 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DoktorL/tnnt/dumplog/1699573540.tnnt.html 00:30 [EU] [D]: ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 221 points, 620 turns, killed by a hobbit (and 12 other games not reported) 00:31 [AU] [D]: ogmobot (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2462 points, 3094 turns, killed by a fall onto poison spikes 00:31 Wow, nice one DoktorL 00:31 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 256 points, 829 turns, killed by a hobbit 00:32 Never thought you were going to get out of Gehenom, you got sent back so many times! 00:33 -!- kewldewd has joined #tnnt 00:33 [EU] kh (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:13729 00:33 [US] [D]: Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law), 404 points, 1524 turns, killed by a wand 00:34 [US] eitlarry (Hea Gno Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:1258 00:34 hehe 00:35 18 levels of mysterious force, not bad 00:35 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:14347 00:36 [EU] [D]: ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 292 points, 535 turns, killed by a dwarf (and 46 other games not reported) 00:37 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:18196 00:39 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13920 00:39 [EU] Arasaka (Cav Dwa Fem Law) removed Andrio's uncursed tinning kit (0:50) from the swap chest, on T:57597 00:41 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:41 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 444 points, 1484 turns, killed by a kobold lord 00:42 [US] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:41089 00:43 [US] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Thoth Amon, on T:41123 00:43 [US] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:41124 00:44 [US] Bean (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:44378 00:44 [EU] [D]: ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 519 points, 1560 turns, killed by a dwarf (and 5 other games not reported) 00:45 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1108 00:48 [EU] [D]: ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 234 points, 629 turns, killed by a wand (and 6 other games not reported) 00:49 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:48488 00:49 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:48493 00:50 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 624 points, 1934 turns, killed by a hobgoblin 00:51 [US] Bean (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided disenchanter, on T:45134 00:53 [EU] Arasaka (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:57923 00:57 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:33724 00:58 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:58 [US] allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:96 00:59 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 01:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-11 01:00 UTC: Games: 130, Asc: 1, Scum: 112. 0d 08:30 gametime. (50%Cha), 19d 22:59 remaining. 01:01 [EU] Arasaka (Cav Dwa Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:58469 01:01 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:1624 01:04 -!- Demo has quit [Server closed connection] 01:05 -!- Demo has joined #tnnt 01:05 +5 weapons are safe to blessed enchant right? 01:07 Yes 01:07 [US] Bean (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:46459 01:08 [US] Bean (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:46461 01:08 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2277 points, 2243 turns, killed by a soldier ant, while praying 01:08 [EU] Arasaka (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:59200 01:09 [US] Bean (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed wand of death", on T:46588 01:09 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:75751 01:10 [US] Bean (Rog Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:46651 01:11 [EU] kh (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Peregrinatrix, on T:15615 01:11 +7 excal, poggers 01:12 [US] Bean (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:46760 01:12 [US] Bean (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:46761 01:12 finally start scum the correct spells and then proceeds to walk a couple steps in to a fire trap 01:12 but did it kill you 01:13 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful little dog, on T:13 01:14 Priests are allergic to all types of damage, yes i died 01:14 sadge... 01:15 Why're you start scumming priests anyway 01:16 you just need 1 gold piece to bribe demons + no displacement, right? 01:18 yep if you have 1 gold in your open inventory and you get the bribe prompt, you can give 1 gold 01:18 casual reminder that holding excal forfeits bribing 01:18 [EU] [D]: ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 177 points, 496 turns, killed by a water moccasin (and 27 other games not reported) 01:18 or being deaf from magic trap 01:19 unwielded still counts? 01:19 bc he just insta-aggro'd 01:20 no, unwielded doesn't anger 01:20 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:20 but you need to not wield it when entering the level also 01:22 ^ 01:23 if I put a BoH into an oilskin bag that happens to have cancellation wands in it, does that still explode? 01:23 ah, makes sense then 01:24 no, only if you do the other way around 01:24 The wand has to be inside the bag of holding to cause the explosion 01:24 [US] Bean (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:48352 01:24 don't think so Mitzutsune, just if you put the wand in the bag 01:24 got it ty! 01:24 [US] Scuzzery (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:30138 01:24 [US] Scuzzery (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:30140 01:25 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:35290 01:27 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:33859 01:28 [EU] [A]: Arasaka (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 2452900 points, 59540 turns, ascended 01:28 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arasaka/tnnt/dumplog/1699535600.tnnt.html 01:29 gg 01:30 [EU] kh (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided master lich, on T:16425 01:30 [US] Scuzzery (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:30445 01:30 -!- BestGorilla has joined #tnnt 01:30 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33915 01:30 gg 01:30 brb 01:31 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 314 points, 1009 turns, killed by a gnome lord 01:32 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1266 01:32 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:15397 01:33 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:36002 01:34 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:39111 01:34 [US] Bean (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:48824 01:35 [US] Bean (Rog Hum Fem Cha) genocided gremlin, on T:48845 01:36 [US] [A]: Bean (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2006794 points, 48848 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bean/tnnt/dumplog/1699543142.tnnt.html 01:36 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:78329 01:36 fucking finally discovered geno scroll 01:36 gg 01:36 gg bean 01:36 [US] Scuzzery (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:30713 01:36 gg bean! 01:37 [US] Scuzzery (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:30714 01:37 Are the Magic lamps in tnnt price adjusted? 01:37 No. 01:37 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:34216 01:37 thanks! 01:37 magic is always higher than oil 01:37 Price is determined by charisma, dupe stats, T-shirt, things like that. 01:38 I cant name it at the moment, because it is not here... but minetown had 4 (I think) lamps, all 15. 01:40 What is the 'pro' way of spending turns healing. locked closet? 01:41 I'm at a little under 50%, don't want to go down, don't want to move. Surely ants will come. the game knows. 01:42 BestGorilla: i do it on staircase, heard of people using locked closet too. 01:42 Ok... staircase it is... 01:42 Missing code scrolls were on dlvl 23, 26, 27. High rolls! 01:42 Thank you Furey 01:43 [US] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:32654 01:44 [US] [D]: adron (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1126 points, 3158 turns, killed by a water moccasin 01:45 -!- charlie14690 has joined #tnnt 01:46 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 38 points, 123 turns, killed by a water moccasin 01:46 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:79500 01:47 [EU] [D]: blankman (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1220 points, 4315 turns, killed by a snake 01:47 [US] [D]: coffee (Val Hum Fem Neu), 323 points, 1338 turns, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse 01:48 [EU] askhl (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:21328 01:49 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:19553 01:49 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:50555 01:51 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:54 [EU] [D]: ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2728 points, 3872 turns, killed by a killer bee, while praying (and 27 other games not reported) 01:54 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Arc Gno Fem Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:23561 01:54 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:37592 01:56 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:50966 01:56 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:57 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:12349 01:58 -!- shadowcat has joined #tnnt 01:58 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Arc Gno Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Camaxtli, on T:23734 02:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-11 02:00 UTC: Games: 65, Asc: 2, Scum: 54. 1d 00:52 gametime. (55%Hum), 19d 21:59 remaining. 02:02 Hiii 02:04 Hi Andrio -- I found your bones 02:04 [US] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:33010 02:04 [US] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:33012 02:04 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:04 Was it the Angel one or the Chromatic Dragon one? 02:04 Caveman quest, chromatic dragon, illiterate, impressed that you got receive-the-quest illiterate 02:05 Ah, yeah. 02:05 [US] Jilvane (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:16731 02:05 That thing is scary. 02:05 it must be really hard to do illiterate nethack runs because half the game is reading 02:05 Should I have gotten the "Got No Talent" achievement from a soldier playing a bugle? Feels like that shouldn't count since I'm not the one that scared the monster. 02:05 but I got it 02:05 oh, interesting karafruit29! 02:06 Lipsyncing 02:06 That sounds like a bug to me 02:06 boy adding those achievement notifications has been a great way to identify bugs 02:06 [EU] kh (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed wand of cancellation", on T:18446 02:06 Is it possible to get IBM graphics working on the Windows Terminal? 02:06 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:51726 02:07 Yes. 02:07 How do you do it? 02:07 Can't recall exactly. Sorry. 02:08 The Caveman role deserves more love than it gets, but ultimately the nemesis is a real fucking sidewinder for the kind of role you're expected to lead to that point. 02:08 [EU] askhl (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 3 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:21910 02:08 -!- kewldewd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:09 [US] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:33052 02:09 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:35988 02:10 i haven't seen an answer to the caveman role that I accept as an actually good answer 02:11 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3057 points, 2582 turns, killed by an invisible arch-lich 02:11 [US] jonosmalls88 (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:30539 02:11 $lastgame Gandelf 02:11 Umbire: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Gandelf/tnnt/dumplog/1699667193.tnnt.html 02:11 I blinded Chroma with a camera, she ported to stairs, I threw several spears, she just sat on stairs healing more slowly than the incoming spears. But then when she went upstairs I lost control. 02:11 here you go Demo: make it be able to breed with other monsters and make half- pets because it is less evolved so closer to the monsters and interbreeding is possible 02:12 [US] Delrav (Rog Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a fire ant corpse, on T:6066 02:12 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "+2 blessed fixed greased grey dragon scale mail", on T:20418 02:12 it opens up a whole new breeding based playstyle. would be hugely differentiating 02:12 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:52316 02:12 That's not even comedically awful, just grim. 02:12 this is sadly one of the better ideas I've seen for it 02:12 I'll try and find some potions of paralysis. 02:12 And try to teleport the Scepter away from her. 02:12 I wanted to make it forced illiterate in ndnh but that is so hard to do and still make things balanced and interesting 02:13 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law), 451 points, 1736 turns, killed by a werejackal 02:13 Similar "problem" in Evil. Sling bullets are nice admittedly. 02:13 [US] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:33130 02:13 ah, the irony of a wand of digging stuck in a wall 02:13 [US] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:33132 02:13 Also I feel like she'll pick it up by the time you get within potion lobbing range. 02:13 lol karafruit29 02:13 a breeder role feels more like a pet role thing, and it is hard to have more than one pet role and have the be particularly distinct 02:14 [US] tjw (Cav Gno Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:20612 02:14 [tnnt] entrez pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnnt/compare/9fdc5a52c363...30db213024f2 02:15 [tnnt] entrez db93990 - Fix: don't award "Got No Talent" for mon bugler 02:15 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:25260 02:15 [tnnt] entrez 30db213 - Refine conditions for awarding Most Dangerous Game 02:15 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) averted death (petrified by trying to tin a chickatrice without gloves), on T:39692 02:15 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:36423 02:16 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 boots of water walking", on T:25261 02:16 wow klepto close one 02:16 im sweating bullets right now 02:16 achievement hunting, a dangerous game 02:16 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:25293 02:17 [US] Delrav (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:6292 02:17 what achievement even is that? ah, i bet it was exhausting a tinning kit 02:17 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18130 02:18 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:25330 02:18 it's like playing on an acid trip, sometimes a bad one 02:18 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:12578 02:19 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided mind flayer, on T:40259 02:19 I THINK this is not a touchstone. It made scratch marks..... I have that correct? 02:19 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1765 02:19 Touchstones make a distinct sound when used on iron items. 02:20 if you're not blind anyway 02:20 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:25371 02:20 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:25372 02:20 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:25373 02:20 for some reason when you're blind the sounds stones make change 02:20 When applied to a dagger, it made 'scratch sounds'. 02:20 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:12593 02:21 that's a touchstone if it says "scritch scritch" (and you're not blind when you apply it) BestGorilla 02:21 ^ 02:21 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:21230 02:21 When applied to a blue unidentified gem, it made blue scratch marks. 02:21 Rogerdodger. 02:21 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:25378 02:21 yeah all gray stones will make those scratch marks 02:21 Possibly it's a good bad bug. 02:21 So, this is a luckstone. 30zm 02:21 Noice 02:21 cool 02:21 Oh, I gotta read on that then... because I got the wrong imprssion. 02:22 Impression 02:22 Furey of all the times to get a (0:91) tinning kit 02:22 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:40287 02:22 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:25483 02:22 at least dragon riding will be fun 02:22 OH..... like, the flintstone will ALSO make scratch marks. 02:22 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:40287 02:22 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class m, on T:40288 02:22 But only the touchstone will make streaks, rather than scratch marks. 02:22 One specific stone makes a specific sound when applied to iron items. 02:22 That much is all you need to reliably test for it. 02:22 You don't hear the sound, it's not a touchstone. 02:23 -!- kewldewd has joined #tnnt 02:23 [US] Delrav (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:6404 02:23 Thanks Umbire 02:23 Thanks qt 02:23 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:25648 02:23 -!- Waffa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:24 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:21906 02:24 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Arc Gno Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Camaxtli, on T:25959 02:24 -!- Waffa has joined #tnnt 02:25 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:26 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) removed Merlek's blessed +5 gray dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:18297 02:27 [EU] blankman (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed figurine of an archon", on T:2491 02:27 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) removed wvc's uncursed spellbook of extra healing from the swap chest, on T:36769 02:27 [EU] askhl (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:22520 02:28 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law), 1221 points, 2872 turns, killed by an Uruk-hai 02:28 -!- Waffa has quit [Client Quit] 02:33 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first item, on T:53701 02:33 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 3514 points, 6181 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gold golem 02:34 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:36123 02:35 [US] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:172689 02:35 [US] tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:172690 02:36 [US] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed figurine of a ki-rin", on T:34523 02:36 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:24114 02:36 [US] tjw (Cav Gno Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:21719 02:37 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:40840 02:38 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 02:38 [EU] askhl (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 8 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:22720 02:40 -!- Azoxey_ has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 02:42 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:27632 02:43 -!- kewldewd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:43 Made it to Minetown and I already have three bags of holding and a magic lamp.. 02:43 I'll take it~ 02:45 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) genocided class P, on T:53753 02:45 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:53754 02:47 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed magic marker", on T:20270 02:48 [US] Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law) found kitten, on T:2657 02:49 Andrio, killed in a magical explosion 02:49 wow, this swap chest is full of junk. And I'm not sure I can even help the situation :c 02:49 "another man's treasure" or junk junk? 02:50 yes, dish about the junk! 02:50 [US] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:35190 02:50 [US] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:35190 02:50 [US] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered Ara, her faithful ki-rin, on T:35190 02:50 armor: +3 dwarvish cloak, +1 robe, blue and green dragon scales. The robe could maybe be useful I guess if someone needs one? 02:50 If you already have poison resistance, the ring of poison resistance would be a good donation. 02:51 You could always come back to it later too. 02:51 i like robes 02:51 It's Fine Enough™, just not especially useful to you 02:51 [US] Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 13 poisoned crude arrows on an altar, on T:3225 02:51 If you don't want to use the robe yourself, sure. 02:51 yeah I'll grant the robe is useful 02:51 but the others... meh 02:52 [US] Jilvane (Sam Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:21048 02:52 foodless can use green dragon scales (i've seen bleeko in them) 02:52 [US] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:4033 02:53 Indeed, situational but handy. 02:53 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Chromatic Dragon, on T:24972 02:53 there's a wand of polymorph I'm eyeing but most of it feels useless overall and a good portion of the rest of it useless to me right now 02:53 but yeah there are odd situations where some stuff could be handy 02:53 [US] tjw (Cav Gno Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:22723 02:53 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24973 02:53 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 02:54 i've got my donation set up for votd but not going there for some hours. 02:54 gdsm, aor, blessed boh 02:54 I guess a better way to put it would be I have junk items I consider more valuable than a lot of the stuff in there, and I'm not sure if that means I should be donating it or what 02:54 [US] [D]: Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1345 points, 3543 turns, killed by an Uruk-hai 02:54 [US] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed figurine of a ki-rin", on T:35273 02:55 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 02:55 how would you keep Vlad alive? nymph self-poly? 02:56 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13804 02:56 karafruit29 every little thing helps, especially if you have duplicate speed boots or smth 02:56 can you make rodney steal it from him? 02:56 I don't even have a single pair of speeed boots 02:56 wasn't that patched? 02:57 I have ten wands of digging though, maybe one of those would be useful. I put in a stack of six cursed teleport scrolls and a ring of polymorph so far, not sure what my third should be 02:57 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed ring of levitation", on T:24693 02:57 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:29669 02:57 my strategy is 1 to mines end, 3 to votd, and the votd objects are top shelf 02:57 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:17954 02:57 [US] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5047 02:57 there's three swap chests? 02:57 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:24899 02:58 never enough saddles with nobody playing knights 02:58 yeah I would like to do that but I don't have good stuffs right now for votd. Maybe I'll see if I can find somem good dragon scales in gehennom and come back 02:58 sure 02:58 Nesta I saw a saddle somewhere, I could totally go put it in 02:58 do people really use saddles? I could totally donate mine as well 02:59 riding into the planes on a ki-rin is some of the most fun you can have 02:59 unfortunately ki-rin will die to poison clouds on the plane of fire 02:59 saddle is not eligible donation 02:59 btw what's a good pet to bring to the planes for the achievement 03:00 archon 03:00 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:20633 03:00 can they fly? 03:00 yes 03:00 ah, makes sense. thx 03:01 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:24972 03:01 I have a Knight parked currently with a saddled ki-rin 03:02 can you get the ki-rin to equip a "oMB? 03:02 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law), 3636 points, 5529 turns, killed by a fire ant 03:03 go a! 03:05 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 77 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:25122 03:05 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:21067 03:05 [US] [D]: bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 9778 points, 9583 turns, killed by a gray unicorn 03:07 No. 03:07 That was a bug they fixed before the first release of 3.6, and monsters generally won't wear that anyway so. 03:07 Or, I feel like that's when they fixed it. 03:08 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2728701 points, 173109 turns, killed by a touch of death (with the Amulet) 03:08 !Huh. 03:08 $lastgame tinklebear 03:08 Umbire: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/tinklebear/tnnt/dumplog/1698953847.tnnt.html 03:08 -!- tinklebear has joined #tnnt 03:08 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 03:08 Poinked by Death himself, feels bad. 03:09 not sure what happened there 03:09 can silver spears stack? 03:09 wa that just HP loss? 03:09 *was 03:09 Yes, Kara 03:10 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed touchstone", on T:41954 03:10 or is it that "deadly touch" is distinct from ToD 03:10 Yes 03:10 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 198 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:25318 03:10 60% to drain, 25% to do nothing, 15% to just die 03:10 and so instead of "out of body experience", without MR it's just instadeath 03:11 Eyup. 03:11 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:30900 03:11 okay. well, I know that for next time, I guess 03:11 of all the lousy rotten ideas, orctown is 03:11 You have poison resistance? 03:11 If you do you might profit quite a bit, esp. as a ranger 03:12 Was that a hallu run, Tinkebear? 03:12 I'm trying to get a wizard out with the amulet before i go back to rangers but yeah 03:13 [US] Dx34 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products (lump of royal jelly) for the first time, on T:13732 03:14 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed figurine of an archon", on T:41963 03:14 I get PR, a digging tool, beeline for the closest spot to the temple before digging and try to handle the orcs there 03:14 [US] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:35602 03:14 i can't remember whether i genocided mimcs in this game 03:15 nah that one yasd'd 03:15 -!- tinklebear has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:16 -!- BestGorilla has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:16 -!- BestGorilla has joined #tnnt 03:17 hi bg 03:17 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:25626 03:17 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:25627 03:17 Oh yay, you're makin' good progress. 03:18 [US] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:35638 03:18 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 3545 points, 6657 turns, killed by a rothe (and one other game not reported) 03:20 -!- tinklebear has joined #tnnt 03:20 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) genocided class m, on T:25756 03:21 -!- BestGorilla has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:21 [US] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Death, on T:35661 03:21 [US] jonosmalls88 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:32118 03:21 Widmerpool-my-cat: yes, permahallu without MR 03:22 [US] jonosmalls88 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32128 03:22 hallucination makes you immune to "touch of death" monster spell 03:23 Nesta: #genocided 03:23 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "3 blessed rustproof +2 silver spears", on T:42311 03:23 That is one impressive challenge tinklebear, respect. 03:23 ...but I had not considered that Death has a "deadly touch" that can instakill, and which hallucination does NOT (apparently) protect against 03:23 -!- blankman has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:24 heh, Furey. it was a lot of fun. definitely one to try again 03:24 can you wish for objects? 03:24 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:25931 03:25 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:25970 03:25 -!- blankman has joined #tnnt 03:25 [US] Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence (5 times), on T:35714 03:26 [US] Dx34 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:14522 03:26 You can, objects appear as normal in inventory. 03:27 You want a full UI screw, check out SLASH'EM or Grunt. 03:28 [US] [D]: SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 27113 points, 17924 turns, killed by a giant zombie 03:28 receive the quest atheist, receive the quest hallucinating, reach -13 luck, this is amazing 03:30 -!- BestGorilla has joined #tnnt 03:30 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:20602 03:30 if the wish question was for me, yeah, I could have wished for stuff. but I found two markers early on and found fire brand on the floor, so I went wishless 03:32 omg, wishless, polypileless, genoless, elberethless, as well 03:32 All very doable if the dice fall right. 03:33 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Staengia's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:2322 03:33 I honestly considered genoless during my current knight + ascended monk but ultimately decided against it 03:34 genoless makes long games tougher, mind flayers keep setting back knowledge 03:34 's like, how much do I arbitrarily feel I need to prove, y'know. 03:34 -!- tinklebear has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:35 Not to say I'm like, ethically opposed, but I gotta be in the Mood for a conduct, y'know? 03:35 i let the RNG challenge me to conducts 03:35 There is a reasonable argument that anything you can geno, potentially creates a net liability if you do so 03:36 "no boh before castle? ok challenge accepted!" 03:37 Yes, and I've heard it before, and I still ascended with L h ; permawasted so. 03:37 It's a matter of what you're willing to accept or play into. 03:37 And there's a reasonable argument that genociding certain monsters creates a huge net benefit of not having game ruined 03:37 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:42120 03:37 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu) destroyed shadowcat's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2780 03:37 Legitimately still annoyed about that purple L chameleon, on that note. 03:38 no sure of course. the convo I'm remembering was during 3.3.0 when there were summoning storm bugs and stuff 03:38 Entirely Elberethless game But For That Specifically 03:38 hey Umbire, are you in the mood for a wiki question? 03:38 but it's either lose the conduct or potentially lose the game, and I'm not really one for Vegas lately. 03:38 Furey, fire away. 03:38 genocide Ls and you lose the main source for athames, and for someone who E'd every square down to the castle, that was big 03:39 genocide a's and all those insects the Astral priests would be summoning come out as something way bad 03:39 tnnt page, there's some sections that are spoilers about playing permadeaf, permahallu, and others 03:39 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 1251 points, 3858 turns, killed by a bugbear 03:40 if I get b?oG in starting gear i do m 03:40 i'd like the main tnnt page to be less spoiler-y, perhaps those sections should be in different pages? 03:40 just because it increases the chance of Orcus giving a wish or "oLS or whatever 03:41 [EU] blankman (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7313 03:42 -!- tinklebear has joined #tnnt 03:42 I like genociding m 03:42 -!- Waffa has joined #tnnt 03:42 -!- Waffa has quit [Client Quit] 03:42 [US] [A]: Ardub (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2682692 points, 35814 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Ardub/tnnt/dumplog/1699136407.tnnt.html 03:43 [US] Jilvane (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:26296 03:43 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 2078 points, 3857 turns, killed by an Uruk-hai 03:43 gg dub 03:43 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:56199 03:43 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:56200 03:44 gg 03:44 That's one I have to sit on a bit, Furey. 03:46 [US] Dx34 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:15813 03:46 I was proud that the tnnt article made "featured article", but I suppose it would have been featured on Nov 1 no matter how much or little it was edited. 03:46 [US] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:62019 03:47 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:771 03:51 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) removed Grouchy's wand of polymorph (0:5) from the swap chest, on T:42617 03:53 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 306 points, 2153 turns, killed by the wrath of Ishtar 03:53 [US] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:45998 03:53 [US] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:45999 03:54 [US] Dx34 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:16551 03:55 found altar around turn 60. said "i'll spend a few minutes here until I get MB"... T13661 still saccing... 03:56 [US] bleeko (Tou Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:13491 03:57 [EU] blankman (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed for the first time, on T:8177 03:57 [US] Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:14259 03:57 * Nesta calls shenanigans 03:58 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:17301 03:59 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 9 points, 142 turns, killed by a sewer rat 04:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-11 04:00 UTC: Games: 11, Asc: 1, Scum: 0. 258674 turns, 5459113 points. (27%Cav), 19d 19:59 remaining. 04:00 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57488 04:00 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:57490 04:00 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 977 points, 2011 turns, killed by a dagger 04:01 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 69 points, 292 turns, killed by a goblin 04:02 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful purple worm, on T:57878 04:02 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:57878 04:04 [US] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:62509 04:05 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful umber hulk, on T:58104 04:06 [EU] blankman (Val Dwa Fem Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:9728 04:07 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 9594 points, 14604 turns, killed by a killer bee, while fainted from lack of food 04:07 well that sucks 04:08 -!- misha has joined #tnnt 04:08 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:23384 04:08 was eating one of the bees, fainted anyway 04:08 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 912 points, 2999 turns, killed by a raven 04:09 -!- jientho has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:09 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:22091 04:09 -!- wop has joined #tnnt 04:10 [US] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:62562 04:10 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:1637 04:10 Bees ain't much fillin'. 04:11 can't remember the last time I had a character run into food problems but that's as far as Ive gotten with a wiz lately 04:12 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:27701 04:12 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:13 [US] [D]: Nesta (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 195 points, 1006 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 04:13 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:58475 04:13 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:58479 04:13 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:13 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master lich), on T:22276 04:14 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 16 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:43659 04:14 [US] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:62601 04:15 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) destroyed allanb's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:6112 04:17 [US] [D]: Nesta (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 355 points, 463 turns, killed by a wand 04:17 [US] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:62622 04:18 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:58866 04:19 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:59062 04:19 [EU] blankman (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10859 04:20 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 54 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:43951 04:20 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayer, on T:28090 04:21 [US] Jilvane (Sam Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:28980 04:22 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 118 points, 670 turns, killed by a giant rat 04:22 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Nesta's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2363 04:23 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:44033 04:23 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) genocided disenchanter, on T:59563 04:25 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) murdered Vita Fidelia, his faithful pony, on T:2076 04:25 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 954 points, 2076 turns, caught himself in his own magical blast 04:25 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "5 blessed potions of booze", on T:43954 04:25 [US] Scuzzery (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:32545 04:25 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "4 blessed potions of booze", on T:43955 04:26 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed potions of booze", on T:43955 04:26 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3232 points, 2857 turns, killed by strangulation 04:26 -!- BestGorilla has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 04:26 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed potions of booze", on T:43988 04:27 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) has entered the Arena, on T:44044 04:28 -!- Nesta has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:29 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed exchangebox the Lady in a deathmatch, on T:44114 04:29 [US] [A]: oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4628966 points, 62843 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/tnnt/dumplog/1699164673.tnnt.html 04:29 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Andrio's ghost, the former Wanderer, on T:3348 04:29 -!- Nesta has joined #tnnt 04:29 gg 04:29 [EU] blankman (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:11768 04:29 [US] Scuzzery (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:33039 04:33 [US] Jilvane (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:31120 04:35 -!- tinklebear has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:36 wow. just wow tinklebear. I can't even 04:36 * crunchbubba sighs 04:37 [EU] NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1056 04:39 dang... what's a reliable source of confusion for gold detection on the planes if none of my spells are forgotten? 04:39 I don't have any potions of confusion. 04:40 or booze 04:40 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:44862 04:40 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:44862 04:42 oh, magic mapping in the planes will confuse me I think! 04:43 it would yes 04:43 whew! See, studying diligently doesn't pay off after all, MOM! 04:44 -!- anselmus has joined #tnnt 04:44 lol 04:47 alright I got 2 blessed geno 04:47 [US] Jilvane (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:31978 04:47 L and h perhaps? 04:48 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:5623 04:49 Those're the safe ones, yeah 04:49 Where are you atm 04:49 the two best endgame pets removed from the game? 04:49 [US] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4699 04:49 L for sure. Hate those guys. Depending on whether I can take out a mindflayer at range or not I also consider disenchanters. 04:49 I cleared out castle and quest, and my next roadblock is gehennom 04:50 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:45573 04:50 Before 3.6 I'd say genociding an Elbereth-respecting monster was a waste, but now... 04:50 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed allanb's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:3116 04:50 huh, silver weapon does *work* against orcus 04:52 [US] Scuzzery (Mon Hum Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:33542 04:52 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11495 04:53 Always has. 04:53 Not sure why it wouldn't. 04:53 I meant in the sense that it did more damage than I expected 04:53 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:40599 04:53 that also reminds me Umbire that I also still have my wishes, except the one I used on GoP 04:54 I found speed boots and lev ring in votd 04:54 [US] Jilvane (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:32519 04:54 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:45706 04:54 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:45708 04:55 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:29698 04:57 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:49328 04:57 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 8055 points, 5097 turns, poisoned by an orcish arrow 04:58 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "+2 Blessed silver dragon scale mail", on T:12281 04:58 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:3390 04:58 [US] Scuzzery (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:33907 04:58 are we certain magic mapping will cause confusion on the planes? 04:59 I don't have a local copy of 3.6 handy to wiztest so I tried evilhack and it didn't work as I'd hoped 04:59 Oh, I just checked the wiki 04:59 only astral plane is unmappable 04:59 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 49099 points, 21110 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 04:59 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) destroyed hilarita's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:12508 04:59 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 4466 points, 7117 turns, killed by a soldier ant 05:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-11 05:00 UTC: Games: 12, Asc: 1, Scum: 0. 121134 turns, 4706015 points. (42%Cha), 19d 18:59 remaining. 05:00 [US] [D]: Jilvane (Sam Hum Fem Law), 226865 points, 32653 turns, killed by a minotaur 05:00 meh 05:00 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:46315 05:01 then I'm still out of luck. 05:01 I need 4 sources of confusion. 05:01 I guess I could just loiter around for 10k turns and keep fighting rodney 05:02 spare unihorn? 05:02 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:46438 05:02 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:46441 05:03 donated 3 spellbooks i found 05:03 [EU] NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu) removed ais523's 4 blessed scrolls of enchant weapon from the swap chest, on T:6650 05:03 ya... won't that cause sickness though 05:03 [EU] blankman (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:14674 05:04 yes. you use the cursed one then the blessed to heal until you just get confusion 05:04 cursed ?confuse 05:05 some places you can't afford to be stunned 05:05 Eggs or tripe are a thing. 05:05 booze 05:05 all out of potions. 05:05 write cursed scrolls of conf monster? 05:05 no trip in the stash 05:05 no markers 05:06 I think I got a long worm stuck 05:06 I might try for the cursed unihorn 05:06 it's the closest solution I have 05:06 There's umber hulks in earth plane, aren't there? 05:08 oh, had a 0:0 crystal ball in my stash. That'll do it. 05:08 just found my seventh luckstone of the run o.o 05:08 rng delivers with much needed 4 prot 05:09 I unironically used a crystal ball so my Monk could find the portal on Water 05:09 Was worth 05:09 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fi4mwMN7-4qKyZK8aoChysclLLNaIgVx/view?usp=sharing 05:09 [US] [D]: eitlarry (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 428 points, 4694 turns, choked on a floating eye corpse 05:09 Neat. 05:10 crystal ball is dangerous though because it paralyzes you for about 5-10 turns 05:11 cursed ? confuse monster might be a safer bet 05:11 qt: when a k-ration is rotten you dont get the wasnt a meal, wasnt ready, shouldnt have eaten it achievement 05:11 It's always a safer bet, categorically 05:11 his head is on a desecrated temple altar 05:12 's why I keep 'em on hand when I can 05:12 Also at that point I'd just freshly geno'd ; so 05:12 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1053 points, 2702 turns, killed by a guardian naga hatchling 05:12 I usually save them up for astral to confuse all the mobs I hit. Keeps things safe 05:13 [US] [A]: Scuzzery (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2406224 points, 33930 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Scuzzery/tnnt/dumplog/1699227982.tnnt.html 05:13 [US] bleeko (Tou Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:16778 05:13 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:30493 05:13 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 scrolls of genocide", on T:30494 05:14 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:30495 05:14 gg 05:14 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) wished for "marker", on T:30496 05:14 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 1270 points, 3082 turns, killed by a gold golem 05:15 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:61077 05:16 aww crap I forgot I needed to find vlad's tower 05:16 guess I gotta go back and look for it 05:18 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:61190 05:20 [EU] blankman (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:15361 05:20 does sunsword light up the area if a pet archon wields it or only if the player does? 05:20 gremlin stole an intrinsic, pretty glad it was just telepathy 05:21 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:48816 05:21 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:48816 05:22 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:30089 05:23 [US] [D]: Dragonbait (Sam Hum Mal Law), 373 points, 559 turns, killed by a gnome king 05:23 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:30094 05:23 Good luck getting that back 05:23 Also that's an effect of the artifact, Kara 05:24 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:61397 05:24 Someone has to wield Sunsword, but pretty sure it doesn't have to be you. 05:24 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:41292 05:24 collect the whole set! 05:25 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:61448 05:25 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful purple worm, on T:61448 05:25 gotcha. hrm... 05:26 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:47306 05:26 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:61493 05:26 [US] bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful purple worm, on T:61503 05:27 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:2721 05:27 [EU] NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed spellbook of identify", on T:12031 05:27 aaand my luck is negative 05:28 fountain wish 05:28 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 6050 points, 6292 turns, killed by a soldier ant 05:28 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2441 05:28 hm A's don't respect aligned temples 05:28 [US] [A]: bouquet (Kni Hum Fem Law), 3087213 points, 61540 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/tnnt/dumplog/1699500654.tnnt.html 05:28 almost died to an aleax 05:29 gg 05:29 gg bouquet 05:29 * bouquet bows 05:30 So remind me, players killed by any vampire rise as a vampire in bones, right? 05:30 Are there cases where they can be vampire lords instead? 05:30 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:49101 05:30 Like, from the jump rather than "quaffed one of the dead player's uncursed GL pots" 05:31 [EU] blankman (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a large kobold, on T:16583 05:31 [EU] [D]: blankman (Val Dwa Fem Law), 70731 points, 16585 turns, killed by a minotaur 05:32 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:49147 05:33 oh no, gremlins found the fake tower moat D: 05:33 [US] klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:49181 05:35 [US] [A]: klepto (Kni Hum Fem Law), 3161032 points, 49197 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/klepto/tnnt/dumplog/1699627706.tnnt.html 05:35 let's go double whammy bouquet! 05:35 nice 05:35 Best get to blastin' 05:35 GG Klepto 05:35 gg 05:37 Hm. I wanted to clear out Ludios, but I underestimated the sheer amount of soldiers lol 05:37 I don't have reflection, so part of me doesn't want to open the door... maybe I should wish for amulet of ref and put on conflict? 05:37 -!- Croesus has quit [Server closed connection] 05:38 -!- osmium.libera.chat changed the topic on #tnnt to: Welcome to 'The November NetHack Tournament' :: public irc logs available at https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/irclog :: https://tnnt.org :: TNNT 2023 clan recruitment thread: https://redd.it/17kwhj0 05:38 -!- mode/#tnnt [+o Croesus] by ChanServ 05:38 Def need reflection for Ludios 05:39 Arguably you don't "need" it, but it means the least trouble from wands and the light 05:39 s/light/like 05:39 Highly recommended tho, a lightning wand can be trouble 05:40 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:8315 05:40 as long as you funnel the soldiers through the door and don't go gung-ho, doable without yeah 05:41 [US] Leggman (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:47435 05:42 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 amulet of reflection named "Uno"", on T:51154 05:42 [US] [D]: BigLaundryMan (Cav Hum Fem Law), 139 points, 619 turns, killed by a system shock 05:43 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:48074 05:43 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:48076 05:43 vlad almost killed me D: 05:44 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:11075 05:44 any pointers for a samurai run? are they like valks? 05:45 dl 25 marker! 05:45 some people love them for some reason 05:45 I got one a bit ago in a gehennom maze level 05:46 to me they're wannabe val without excal or infra/cold 05:47 huh. doesn't sound terrible, doesn't sound very good either 05:47 I'll give it a go 05:48 They're perfectly fine 05:48 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:48164 05:48 Katana is the ideal offhand weapon for a lot of folks and uses long sword skill 05:48 so you're practically set once you find a long sword to Excal 05:49 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:25860 05:49 aren't samurais the only role that can dual wield katanas at expert or am i misremembering? 05:49 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:25861 05:49 any role with expert in longsword can do that 05:49 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed drum of earthquake", on T:48185 05:49 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:25861 05:49 sams also start with good armor and a decent ranged weapon, and even get shuriken from hostiles on the quest 05:49 the QA + nemesis combo is a bit ass though 05:49 -!- Bleeko has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:50 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 2843 points, 7327 turns, killed by a plains centaur 05:50 anyhting will be better than another master kaen 05:50 never again xorn storm 05:51 klepto: Sam quest kills more adventurers than Kaen ever has 05:51 Debatable 05:51 thanks for the little write up Umbire, I appreciate it 05:51 but worth being cautious in that vein 05:51 I'll keep it in mind 05:52 And samurai can reach basic at attack spell, so you can cast magic missile if you like. 05:52 QA can bisect small monsters (medium or smaller) with a 5% chance 05:52 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 7 points, 116 turns, killed by a jackal (and one other game not reported) 05:52 it's as useful for you as it is for your nemesis in theory 05:52 in practice, it's a two-handed weapon in a game where most people would rather death wand themselves than give up twoweapon 05:53 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3866 05:53 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 0 points, 148 turns, killed by a grid bug 05:53 the Tsurugi and Vorpal are my most feared to come across in an enemy's hands 05:53 bisecting does sound rather fun though 05:53 it genuinely doesn't offer much, the Tsurugi's not Barbarian QA levels of ass but protection, luck item and bisection/2x damage based on size is a little underwhelming 05:53 I've seen some players don't do two-weapon, but they are considering using shield of reflection. 05:54 and it requires training up a completely separate skill when you're not only probably comfy with Excal + katana or w/e at that point but can get way more damage from it 05:54 [US] [D]: a1 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1434 points, 5349 turns, killed by a rothe, while sleeping 05:55 Samurais can get Excalibur easily or using Snickersnee is also acceptable. 05:55 not to say you shouldn't try using/maining it anyway if you really want to, just that most people understandably don't 05:55 [US] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed shadowcat's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:3986 05:55 Maybe samurais need another quest artifact :P 05:55 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1170 05:55 3.7 has some substantial improvements to two-handed stuff 05:56 still, HPD like in evil wouldn't go wrong per se 05:56 what changed? I don't usually use two-handed but maybe it's worth it in 3.7 05:57 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 3560 points, 4053 turns, killed by a snake 05:57 I don't know, I've never used a twohanded in 3.7 :P 05:57 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:51708 05:57 nailed it 05:58 time to swim in zorkmids Mitzu 05:58 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/60c1956850179f4860e59957138154ec65255998 05:58 MA gets improved in this commit as well 05:59 Ah I've seen this, I remember monks get buffed. 05:59 Umbire: Correction... Kaen has killed more than Ashikaga, but Ashikaga's are more egregious 05:59 Ashikaga can get lmao'd harder than Kaen with wands and doesn't even generate with potential MR 05:59 but he only needs to get lucky once 06:00 Current Day as of 2023-11-11 06:00 UTC: Games: 245, Asc: 8, Scum: 166. 814536 turns, 25694259 points. 11d 16:45 gametime. (20%Arc), (43%Hum), (38%Law), (52%Fem), 19d 17:59 remaining. 06:00 klepto: girl knight power 06:01 Umbire: yeah, hence the egregious part. players put him off until later and he bisects them regarless of their AC or HP 06:01 [US] [D]: a1 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 124 points, 846 turns, killed by a small mimic 06:02 it's one thing to remain dangerous irrespective of stats, another for that to be a 5% chance of "lmao eat shit " 06:02 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 55032 points, 20864 turns, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 06:02 wait what 06:02 aw come on 06:02 $lastgame 06:02 Umbire: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/a1/tnnt/dumplog/1699682092.tnnt.html | [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/tnnt/dumplog/1699677248.tnnt.html | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Andrio/tnnt/dumplog/1699679662.tnnt.html 06:02 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:9990 06:02 bouqet: for the honor of greyskull indeed 06:02 You finish taking off your gloves. 06:02 aw great 06:02 For what? 06:02 s/what/why 06:02 to replace them with the heap of better gloves by the stack of soldiers 06:02 simple yasd 06:03 [US] [D]: DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 36805 points, 10008 turns, killed by a leocrotta 06:03 [US] jonosmalls88 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:34973 06:03 F 06:04 F indeed 06:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:06 still... that 5% chance happens to even the best (that actually try to melee him) 06:06 12 landmines in the vault... wonder if I can get all of them 06:07 There's an achievement in it iirc? 06:07 the answer is I did not get all of them lol 06:07 minesweeper yeah 06:07 but yeah it's an achievement 06:07 high luck dependent i think? 06:07 [US] [D]: Kewl (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 548 points, 1948 turns, killed by a rothe 06:08 Not as dependent on Luck but to a degree 06:08 p. sure it's a Dex check as well? 06:08 [US] [D]: BigLaundryMan (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 241 points, 938 turns, killed by a little dog called Slasher, while disrobing 06:08 it seems to be mostly random, going by wiki 06:09 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1294 points, 1712 turns, killed by a jaguar (and 3 other games not reported) 06:09 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3700 06:09 at some point you should always get the "this landmine is hard to disarm" but I don't know what causes that to be reliable 06:11 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:48497 06:12 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:48498 06:12 It's not all that random 06:15 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:48694 06:16 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 558 points, 2537 turns, killed by a rabid rat 06:16 You normally fail with a 1/3 chance that is very hard to change unless you're a rogue or ranger 06:17 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 66591 points, 13122 turns, killed by a rock troll 06:17 but if you fail, you get the "difficult to disarm" message if rnl(5) == 0 06:17 so maximize Luck and you can go for quite a while before actually setting off a trap 06:17 0:1 :( 06:18 errr, you succeed with a 1/3 chance, not fail :P 06:18 [EU] [D]: Arasaka (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 712 points, 1739 turns, killed by a giant bat 06:19 so there's a 1.3% chance of setting off any given trap with max luck 06:20 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "+1 blessed fixed speed boots", on T:11628 06:20 sooo about 85% chance of successfully untrapping all 12 06:21 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed master key of thievery", on T:11634 06:21 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 411 points, 809 turns, killed by a giant ant 06:21 ooh did you get the mkot? 06:21 -!- arahael has joined #tnnt 06:22 100% chance since i apparently set world record for failed mb sacs 06:22 lol 06:22 still no mb 06:23 idk I think I was saccing for MB until about turn 17k once 06:23 exponential probability distributions do be like they be 06:24 i had cm spell, /cm 06:24 oof 06:24 just dozens and dozens of fails 06:25 and most of orctown that pet killed 06:25 [US] jonosmalls88 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:35592 06:26 got croesus competitor from clearing out Ludios. 54,144 gold 06:26 .pretty easy to compete with him if you get your wealth by stealing it from him 06:28 inherit. they won't be needing it anymore 06:28 [US] WizardOfPoland (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:46836 06:29 [US] WizardOfPoland (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:46841 06:32 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:48821 06:33 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:48824 06:33 fucking water nymph just stole my excal and it's standing over water 06:33 what's the best way to get it back? 06:33 kill it when it's standing on land? 06:33 lure to land and volley at range probs 06:34 or dust E adjacent to her and erase after she flees for a free hit to maybe kill 06:35 $whereis mitzutsune 06:35 anselmus: [US] Mitzutsune : (Val Hum Fem Law) T:52872 The Dungeons of Doom level: 27 06:35 medusa's island 06:35 If it falls in the water its gonna be a pain to get back without "oMB 06:35 yeah that's gonna be a pita 06:35 it doesn't seem to be moving after it stole my sword 06:35 [US] jonosmalls88 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:35912 06:36 do you have a mirror? you can force a teleport if you apply one at her 06:36 that c*** :p 06:36 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed shadowcat's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:500 06:36 that should get her moving again 06:36 doesn't seem as such 06:36 oh wait, what about bugle? 06:36 works too 06:36 Bah, and shadowcat had at least two artifacts. 06:36 It can scare her, yes 06:36 How to guarantee Demogorgon following me through branchport into robotfindskitten? Sometimes he's not following me and I'm not sure why. 06:36 Speed? 06:36 [US] jonosmalls88 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:35922 06:37 that didn't move her... 06:37 Have a wand of cold or something similar? 06:38 Scroll of earth? 06:38 I do have a cold wand, good idea 06:38 Zap her with it, then zap the rows/columns next to that position 06:38 (provided she dies) 06:38 at worst you have to dig it out of the resulting ice 06:39 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed amulet of unchanging", on T:3939 06:39 Oh there you go, it was on top of the ice 06:39 idk why I expected it to sink first for some arbitrary reason 06:39 as you were 06:39 pog 06:39 thanks! 06:39 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 06:40 :3 06:40 o7 06:40 o7 06:42 [US] WizardOfPoland (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:46885 06:45 [US] WizardOfPoland (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:46904 06:45 not 100% sure what potions on my person to blank, at this point 06:46 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:14263 06:48 do you know how to alchemize healing? 06:48 Well what do you have and what do you think you least need? 06:48 https://i.imgur.com/EepFpmM.png 06:48 IIRC there is no recipe for healing; there is for extra healing and full healing though 06:49 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 583 points, 2422 turns, killed by a burning book 06:49 I'd use the uncursed object detection, sleeping and some of the paralysis maybe; if you really need to make more water now 06:49 i'd just quaff away to lighten the load 06:49 -!- fakepass has joined #tnnt 06:50 You could probably just bless and quaff gain ability, save the uncursed water for later cursing 06:50 Object detection is useful for finding the missing code scrolls too, though. 06:50 [US] jonosmalls88 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:36503 06:50 I already have tshirt 06:50 dilute cursed monster detection, cursed object detection and... both pots of sleeping if it were me 06:50 don't be that guy who dies with 20 healing pots 06:50 lol 06:50 burdened* 06:51 I like to keep blessed object detection when hunting specific items (usually on Castle) 06:51 on chance you haven't been there yet 06:51 my next step is gehennom :) 06:52 if you like the gehennom loot and don't have detect treasure the !oOD are keepers tho 06:54 definitely would save the 2 fh 06:54 6 would probably be ideal 06:54 [US] WizardOfPoland (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:47007 06:55 yeah you have the stuff for alchemizing FH so I assume you're vaguely aware of it 06:55 [US] WizardOfPoland (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:47010 06:55 tfw still nothing I want in the swapchest :pensive: 06:55 I'm not actually Umbire 06:55 oh 06:55 that's just all random loot lol 06:55 well https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Alchemy 06:55 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:16254 06:56 extra healing + gain level/gain energy => full healing is the important one for your specific case 06:57 neat 06:59 [US] [D]: arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 172 points, 895 turns, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 07:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-11 07:00 UTC: Games: 13, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 57933 turns, 163094 points. (23%Mon), 19d 16:59 remaining. 07:00 are your smoky potions any good? that might also be worth remembering 07:00 invis potions are my smoky 07:01 If you think you're done with shops for the foreseeable future then bless and quaff away 07:02 if not then grab a mummy wrapping and quaff away :B 07:02 I'm already invis and have a mummy wrapping 07:02 oh then as you were 07:03 well maybe keep invis if you find them in gehenna for quaffing/diluting 07:04 but otherwise, happy quaffing! 07:04 although, I appear to be mildly unprepared for mapping gehennom haha, only 1 magic mapping 07:04 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed SkydiveMike's ghost, the former Priest, on T:18082 07:04 should probably wish for a marker to make some 07:05 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:12920 07:05 either that or clairvoyance from the moloch priest, but ?omm is better 07:06 They're cheap as heck to write but I'd buy clairvoyance anyway after topping up protection 07:06 gotta do something with that gold :B 07:06 does chatting with Moloch priest to get that not anger my god or? 07:06 nah 07:07 Protection is safe to buy from any priest 07:07 as are other services 07:07 it's using their altars that your god and others care about, and you can't convert altars in Gehennom 07:07 guess I'll buy a ton of protection and perhaps a touch of clairvoyance 07:08 I usually stop after the guaranteed 9 07:09 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed Gandelf's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:5157 07:10 I believe I have 9 prot already 07:10 if my tracking has been correct, anyways 07:10 I'm Xp14, 400x14 is 5600, I gave them 5601, but it gave me clairvoyance instead? does that just mean I missed the prot chance? 07:12 You're over the cap, so you aren't guaranteed to get more protection with that donation. 07:12 what exactly was the message? "Thou art indeed a pious individual"? 07:13 yep Shivan 07:13 at least that confirms you indeed have at least 9 07:13 if you fail to get prot you get nothing, and it's "Thy selfless generosity is deeply appreciated." 07:13 did you typo and give 4600 instead maybe? 07:13 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1172796253680193626/image.png?ex=65619ea0&is=654f29a0&hm=1f2cfb9f32a38bcab5e8de0653d885533a5e69630fbcaf448dc2751b7db13d9d& 07:13 oh wait my bad, it was indeed the selfless generosity 07:13 ok yeah 07:13 then you just failed to get prot because you have too much already 07:13 so I'm at 9 then 07:14 cool, I was counting correctly llol 07:14 you can get a biiiit more but the returns are VERY diminishing 07:14 [US] BigLaundryMan (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful little dog, on T:2140 07:14 now just make sure you don't anger your god and you're golden 07:14 wiki says it's 1-in-(current prot) chance to get protection past 9? 07:14 (you can buy it back if it's ever lost) 07:14 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 122 points, 491 turns, killed by a sewer rat 07:15 indeed 07:15 Mitzutsune, yes, hence diminishing returns 07:15 [US] [D]: BigLaundryMan (Val Dwa Fem Law), 743 points, 2149 turns, killed by a rothe 07:15 guess I'll be lugging around the gold for a while lol 07:15 or maybe I go put it in my castle stash instead 07:15 Or just buy the danged clairvoyance 07:16 I had 21 protection once because 100000 gold x level-draining myself to level 1 and donating it in 400zm batches with copy-paste ;) 07:16 as you insist, haha 07:16 ~~(or don't, w/e's cool really)~~ 07:16 then I put on a HoOA because I am dumb 07:16 there's a lot of gold down in gehennom, may be best to stash if you have a lot 07:16 I mean, I really don't have any other use for it 07:16 and lost it all lol 07:16 Oh... 07:16 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4 points, 181 turns, killed by a goblin 07:16 like I said, can be bought back 07:16 klepto I raided Ludios so I have 42.9k rn haha 07:16 on failed prayer shivan? 07:16 nope, HoOA kills your intrinsic prot 07:17 dear lord yeah do smth about that 07:17 and I had already unalived both priests in the game :P 07:17 your god gets angry whenever you switch alignment 07:17 oh, right 07:17 Not angry 07:17 hey, free spellbooks 07:17 ah, okay 07:17 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:50564 07:17 but alignment switching does blow up protection 07:18 I think I'm off for the day. It's far too early to make a run and splat to something embarrassing 07:18 happy hacking to y'all 07:19 lmao I JUST found a temple, am level 11, and have exactly 4399 gold :D 07:19 o7 klepto 07:19 later 07:20 ooh nice, 4 AC from that :D 07:20 later Umbire 07:20 -!- klepto has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:24 whoa double pre-blessed magic lämp 07:25 That's at least one wish barring a 1/400 07:25 how are you not in a clan :p 07:25 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:19255 07:26 ah, I haven't really paid attention to clans yet lol 07:27 still a bit of a tossup who's going to win 07:27 gandalf not showing any signs of quit 07:28 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 07:29 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:4042 07:31 [US] WizardOfPoland (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:49076 07:31 ais523: look at you, 3 ascs already 07:32 ah the days when i would ascend 3 times a day (without the amulet) 07:33 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided energy vortex, on T:50835 07:34 Hecking energy vortices. 07:35 yep 07:35 [US] martinp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:10075 07:36 anselmus: in 3.4.3/AceHack/NH4 my ascension rate is pretty good, as long as I only play valks 07:36 in 3.6 I have huge trouble getting games started, but a little luck early makes it pretty easy for me to win 07:36 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry about my connection] 07:36 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 07:37 [US] WizardOfPoland (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:49527 07:37 like, what often happens is that I end up with no direction I can go within the "safe monster difficulty bubble" of monsters my character can handle 07:38 sometimes even before it's possible to grind for deathdrops without running out of food 07:39 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4062 07:39 [US] jackbunny (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:63743 07:40 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur, on T:6111 07:41 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:18648 07:41 i thought you were grinding for achievements or something so was positively shocked :) 07:41 i believe your last was 8 hours even? 07:42 anselmus: yes – was trying to go fast, although it's still slower than I used to be 07:42 but of course, you being who you are 07:42 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:50993 07:43 right i sometimes forget how good everyone is 07:43 ...third magic lamp O_O 07:43 lmao 07:43 there have been days where I've been doing balance experimentation for the devteam, and have been doing it on the TNNT servers in case I happen to get a fun unique death along the way 07:43 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Andrio's ghost, the former Aborigine, on T:4226 07:44 @shivanhunter: one game I found four – two gave wishes, one didn't, one I kept for light 07:44 .....................third pre-blessed magic lamp :D 07:44 splat incoming 07:44 haha nice 07:44 although I had to bless most of them myself 07:44 idk what I even need lol. Got speed boots from bones 07:45 Well what's your current kit? 07:45 And do you have poison res 07:45 Is it possible for the Sokoban amulet to be cursed in this version? 07:45 I have PR, shield of reflection, GDSM 07:45 speed boots, BoH 07:45 Excal 07:45 (Valk) 07:45 ooh GoPpers 07:45 especially since I have Mjollnir 07:45 It's always been possible 07:46 "You freed me!" 07:46 Item generation for the soko prize is normal, so it's very possible if rare to get a cursed amulet 07:46 k bro I'm happy for you and all but I wanted 25 STR 07:46 Well a pet djinn isn't too bad frankly 07:46 I think at some point that amulet was forced to be non-cursed; might be a 3.7.0 thing though. 07:46 much as you'd want that wish 07:46 that's peaceful, not pet 07:47 [EU] Arasaka (Arc Dwa Mal Law) murdered Korone, his faithful little dog, on T:1305 07:47 ah, unforch 07:48 "oth items follow the normal rules of generation for each - i.e., the amulet of reflection will have the same odds of being generated blessed, uncursed or cursed as any randomly generated amulet, while the bag of holding is always uncursed" <- wiki 07:48 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2714 points, 6402 turns, killed by a hill orc 07:48 arahael or someone else also got a cursed amulet from Soko 07:48 Actually I think it was xdminsy? 07:48 Yeah 07:48 [US] WizardOfPoland (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:49704 07:49 [US] [D]: BigLaundryMan (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 814 points, 2207 turns, killed by a rothe 07:49 lmaoooo I used up the other lamp and it ALSO came out peaceful 07:49 whatevs, easy come easy go, I got magic resistance which is what I really needed 07:50 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:51 [US] [A]: WizardOfPoland (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2463110 points, 49718 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/W/WizardOfPoland/tnnt/dumplog/1699043181.tnnt.html 07:52 gg! 07:52 thanks 07:52 Congrats! 07:54 gg 07:54 I forgot to kill earth elementals for achievement, on top of forgetting bunch of other things. 07:55 I know that feel. I forgot to break my wand of wishing 07:55 [US] jackbunny (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:64183 07:56 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 25373 points, 21474 turns, killed by an owlbear 07:58 is the soko bag always empty? 07:58 no, it can have a randomly generated object in it (very rare but possible) 07:58 I don't think so. 07:58 [US] [D]: MoonPig (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1330 points, 1941 turns, killed by a gnome lord (and one other game not reported) 07:58 It could have a wand of wishing. :P 07:59 mine had a wand of enlightenment last time 07:59 not as useful as wishing but still useful! 08:02 [EU] Arasaka (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:5747 08:03 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:22047 08:04 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1627 08:04 gg 08:08 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:11 I made it to the swap chest for the first time.. not sure that I have anything desirable 08:11 Should I just come back to it later? 08:11 well, what do you have? 08:11 [US] jackbunny (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:65053 08:11 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:51348 08:12 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 600 points, 2369 turns, killed by a giant ant 08:13 You don't have to donate immediately, if at all, but whatever you do be sure to donate as much as you can before taking something out 08:14 martinp: this rather depends on whether you're trying to do a successful donation or just to get an item to help with your game 08:14 generally speaking the Valley chest is better for grinding successful donations because you tend to have more, and better, expendable items by then 08:15 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:23912 08:15 although I have made some successful donations through the Mines chest (most of which were spellbooks donated by melee roles) 08:16 oh, wands of polymorph too, quite a few players want those and it's possible to get them IDed early enough to put them into the Mines chest (assuming you aren't planning on using them yourself) 08:17 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3966 08:17 If you can hardly reach swap chest, you'd better just donate whatever you don't need and take something that helps you survive. 08:17 Oh, I could probably throw a magic missile spellbook in there 08:17 I have a decent collection of wands 08:18 Nope you'd better save it yourself, you can donate 3 in votd chest later. 08:18 I probably have extras in minetown 08:18 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 08:18 Let's not count donations before we make them 08:18 I do have a wand of polymorph I can drop in, although I will probably wish I had it with me later 08:18 If you don't have use for the magic missile book then go for it 08:19 I'll go back and see if I have an extra 08:19 Yes I mean that one need to survive then consider if need to donate. 08:20 you don't need a spellbook immediately anyway, not until you forget the spell 08:21 20k turns 08:21 -!- engelson has joined #tnnt 08:21 and it's over lol 08:21 and you can always write another 08:22 [US] [D]: martinp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 9291 points, 11869 turns, killed by a mumak 08:22 Was a fun run 08:22 mumak of the mines! 08:22 You can donate it if you are not a wizard. 08:22 I'd suggest keep it as a wizard. 08:22 I think there were like 2-3 of those books up at mine town 08:23 it was a mess, my pets killed everything 08:23 other people than wizards might also want to be able to cast magic missile! 08:24 Night folks, happy hacking! 08:24 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 08:26 Night 08:27 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:28 -!- unit327 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:29 -!- xdminsy has joined #tnnt 08:29 -!- unit327 has joined #tnnt 08:32 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Death, on T:51663 08:33 -!- charlie14690 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:36 [US] karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:51694 08:37 -!- Arseniy has joined #tnnt 08:40 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 08:41 [EU] Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pick-axe on an altar, on T:4277 08:43 [US] jackbunny (Val Dwa Fem Law) removed Raisse's 2 uncursed scrolls of magic mapping from the swap chest, on T:65676 08:43 [US] [A]: karafruit (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2521230 points, 51708 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/karafruit/tnnt/dumplog/1699569273.tnnt.html 08:43 gg karafruit! 08:43 gg! 08:44 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2990 points, 4519 turns, killed by a fire ant 08:44 congrats karafruit29! 08:44 idk who this "god" Person is but they seemed happy to have the amulet so *shrug* 08:46 lol 08:47 ascended with five luckstones, I think I saw two more in gehennom as well I didn't pick up 08:50 Any particular reason? 08:51 idk, they were uncursed and mine were blessed 08:51 *hides hoard of holy water* 08:51 You literally only need one 08:52 more luckstones don't make you luckier anyway 08:52 the Really Cool Shirt is also a luckstone 08:52 and like 1-2 backups in case your primary's cursed 08:52 and so are some quest artifacts 08:52 [EU] [D]: spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 549 points, 3671 turns, killed by a giant spider 08:53 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:27760 08:53 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27774 08:53 I wish pets would learn not to attack floating eyes after they get frozen once. 08:53 [EU] Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:2416 08:54 ohhh, you meant any reason I had five, not any reason I  didn't pick up the last two 08:54 idk they were there and I felt like collecting them 08:54 I probably would've skipped the mine's end one if not to get lesser elf 08:54 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 466 points, 2531 turns, killed by a hobbit (and one other game not reported) 08:54 apparently it wasn't Hobbitslayer 08:56 also turns out death is camera-shy 08:56 grats karafruit 08:56 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 38 points, 233 turns, killed by a sewer rat 08:56 thanks Furey! 08:57 -!- engelson_ has joined #tnnt 08:57 sadly no magic lamps or I'd have tried for smoky too for second All You Ever Wanted 08:57 yes please spend hours on a second All You Ever Wanted instead of other achievements, then I can rest a little :) 08:58 hahaha 08:58 look I just happened to get a wish while diluting potions, and then there was this nice throne and it was comfy and had a master key of thievery in it, and one thing led to another... 08:58 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:28228 08:59 I was actually debating saving the throne for after starting the quest to get the artifact-less quest start, but then figured I was unlikely to get the wish and just went for it 08:59 Gandalf's Illegal Fireworks has 19 wins, 18 combos. You guys are good at co-ordinating who ascends what. 09:00 even if you don't get it, it still counts at an artifact wish, afaik 09:00 Just wish for a marker instead of an artifact? 09:00 no I meant, I wanted to start the quest and then wish for it, and was unlikely to get a wish from the throne at all 09:01 ah, right 09:01 there were 0-1 artifacts at that point so it was a guaranteed get 09:01 I already had a marker:P  blessed spellbook of identify was maybe the other good choice at that point? 09:01 [US] jackbunny (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:66528 09:02 ended up finding one later though so probably just as well 09:02 yeah a nice spellbook, identify or magic missile or charm 09:02 I think I had magic missile at that point 09:02 sleep! 09:02 most underrated spell ever 09:02 sleep works really well too 09:03 easy to learn, cheap to cast, effective even against minotaurs 09:03 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 196 points, 1294 turns, killed by a hobbit 09:03 sleep and charm are cross-school for clerics so unlikely to get them for altars 09:03 argh another fucking hobbit 09:03 altar? what's that? ;P 09:03 sleep also good for leprechaun rooms to get all the !oGL 09:03 it's this thing you sit on to lower your wisdom 09:04 I feel like a high number of them generated tbf, I just mostly ignored them 09:04 haha 09:04 I might have had sleep at that point too but never actually casted it 09:04 it's probably better than I give it credit for 09:04 does sitting on an altar break atheism? 09:04 -!- engelson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:04 easy as an elf who's resistant to it to forget how debilitating falling asleep can be 09:05 according to wiki, does not break atheism 09:06 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 74 points, 494 turns, killed by a newt 09:07 so you can get some use from them after all 09:07  also sheesh, having to use boots for levitation sucks. I had a ring but it got destroyed to a trapped chest shocking me 09:08 shock is really rare if you keep your luck up 09:08 my in-game luck was 13 afaik. 09:08 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 125 points, 799 turns, killed by a bear trap 09:09 normally I try to at least nominally search chests for traps but there were so many on the priest quest that I just stopped 09:09 and lost a lot of rings and wands 09:09 karafruit29: my solution to this is to bag rings, and non-cancellation wands, except for a few dispensable ones that are held for use while exploring 09:10 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 48 points, 272 turns, killed by a jackal 09:10 oh that would probably have been the senssible thing to do 09:10 so that if I do accidentally get hit by a shock attack, the situation is recoverable 09:10 same but levitation tends to be one of those for me 09:10 that quest is great. i did a '#turn' once and destroyed 91 undead with one command. 09:10 [EU] Arasaka (Arc Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12341 09:10 depends though 09:10 wouldn't have helped with my free action I was wearing, alas 09:10 it's set up for you to do so 09:10 Umbire: generally anything I need for the Planes, I keep bagged while not actively using it 09:10 spell of fuck you explode 09:11 Furey alas #turn breaks atheism :P  It was tedious. 09:11 conflict will make most of them kill each other 09:12 well i'll be, an atheist priest 09:12 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 57 points, 217 turns, killed by a fox 09:12 never saw a conflict ring until I wished for one in vlad's tower, unforutantely 09:12 [US] tjw (Cav Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Chromatic Dragon, on T:31036 09:12 m - an uncursed wand of wishing (0:3) :D 09:12 Furey: priest is easily the best role at atheist 09:12 [US] tjw (Cav Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31037 09:12 ^ 09:12 yeah that was about the only reason I went for it 09:12 the main downside is that you don't get to buy protection, which is much smaller than the downside of atheist for any other role 09:12 sure it is, but the role-playing is just wrong 09:13 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 pair of gauntlets of power", on T:29080 09:13 I guess secondary downside is not being able to unrestrict any good artifact weapons 09:13 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:18564 09:14 Castle or random, Shivan 09:14 and also uh stenno lmao 09:14 what 09:14 Castle! 09:14 -!- karafruit29 has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 09:15 was asking about Shivan's wish source and you came up right behind 09:15 [US] wispofvapor (Sam Hum Fem Law) found kitten, on T:45587 09:15 karafruit29: I have been considering the sceptre of might as a good weapon for a lawful priest 09:15 was yours a wand, fountain, what 09:15 but have never managed to get far enough to actually wish for it 09:15 sceptre of might is an excellent weapon for a lawful priest 09:15 Neutral ones can go Mjollnir 09:15 prayed for HP twice, max HP now 14 :( 09:15 ais523: sceptre is by far the best weapon for priest 09:16 not even a contest 09:16 Or Staff 09:16 neutral wants staff, chaotic is just screwed 09:16 Longbow of Diana at least Exists 09:16 kinda 09:17 this tourist is cut out to be a cat lady, started with 7 tripe rations and picked up 3 more on levels 1-2 09:17 Ranger has enough cool stuff, their artifact doesn't have to be great. 09:17 but not having a trainable Stormy is a difference you feel 09:17 stenno: the wiki suggests stormbringer for a chaotic priest 09:17 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:18701 09:17 which seems plausible, despite being locked at basic 09:17 ais523, yeah but atheists lose out on it 09:17 raisse: are you going for the cat lady achievement? 09:18 ais523: well yeah, stormbringer its just the least bad weapon 09:18 I imagine plenty of chaotic priests have ascended with stormy, elven ones especially 09:18 I've already got it (I think my orc wiz who ascended tamed 10 or 11 total) but it's nice to have a whole troop of cats 09:18 even in a vacuum stormbringer at basic is enough to be fairly good if you're willing to work with the bloodthirst 09:19 I tend to play petless because I don't like having to abandon my pet / making it die, and not having a pet in the first place avoids that 09:19 even though it hurts asc rate a bit to do so 09:21 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) found kitten, on T:6801 09:21 [EU] [D]: spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 723 points, 2392 turns, killed by a black unicorn 09:21 Pw4 paci is not viable.  I keep relearning this lesson as I don't want to lose the noscum trophy :\ 09:21 yeah stormbringer would've been an option if I weren't sticking with atheist 09:22 used a +6 aklys up to castle and wished for a silver spear for the rest 09:22 pw:4 prot racket is possible but annoying 09:22 well, you know it, spontiff 09:22 spontiff: you can just go for early-game unique deaths on games that you want to reroll 09:22 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:81687 09:23 seemed like the best option of terrible choices 09:23 Basically altar camping until you get a newt buzz is really tedious 09:23 no Bat From Hell :( 09:23 [US] [D]: docpi (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 8706 points, 7074 turns, killed by a dwarf lord 09:23 [US] Darothok (Bar Orc Fem Cha) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1780 09:23 [US] [Q]: Darothok (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1047 points, 1787 turns, quit 09:23 karafruit: I have been thinking for a while that the game would benefit from an artifact flail – this is just further evidence along those lines 09:23 Yes, while being blind from a yellow light, and having fought off half a dozen other monsters right before. 09:23 Seems like the next least worse is literally the starting mace..?  For a chaotic atheist priest? 09:23 you don't _need_ pw:5, do you? 09:23 you can't heal your pet without it 09:24 spontiff: correct 09:24 A YASD, because I could have waited, and regenerated, before venturing on. 09:24 spontiff: yes 09:24 starting mace for chaotic priests 09:24 ath 09:24 spontiff: you gotta yolo it with pw:4, dunno if that is viable in a tournament setting though 09:25 or maneuver it around the pesky pick axe dwarves 09:26 yeah I ditched the mace super early since I got an early marker I used to write some extra enchant weapon on my aklys 09:27 player monster priests go for unihorns iirc 09:27 can you dip a unihorn if it's cursed? I know 2-handed is very annoying that way 09:27 man this swap chest hasn't gotten any better since karafruit peeked 09:27 -!- doctwo has joined #tnnt 09:28 spontiff: yes you can 09:28 yeah I didn't wanna go uni horn because two-handed and I was using a shield 09:28 us swap chest: +3 dwarvish cloak, +1 robe, blue scales, green scales 09:28 6 cursed scrolls of tele 09:28 kept a polearm around for ; tho 09:28 I have a feeling that the US swap chest is likely to have the worst items 09:28 and the AU the best 09:29 based on the way that swap chest item movement works 09:29 I put the six cursed tele in 09:29 3 spellbooks of magic missile, rings of poly, poly control, telecontrol 09:29 -!- docpi has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by doctwo!~docpi@p200300d4bf1f9d18bf9b27c249250475.dip0.t-ipconnect.de))] 09:29 -!- doctwo is now known as docpi 09:29 i'm likely to go for those later 09:29 ais523: saw someone get your 4 EA, didn't know that was possible 09:29 I took a wand of polymorph and then never used it and felt bad for taking it 09:30 anselmus: they were EW not EA 09:30 ooh, random large box containing a blueberry and a pancake 09:30 which makes a big difference 09:30 now I'm hungry for breakfast :) 09:30 it's one of those grocery boxes! 09:30 EW is better in the early game, EA in the late game 09:30 so is 4 the limit? 09:30 no but I ran out of paper 09:31 and, well, there's diminishing returns to big stacks of EW 09:31 yeah my priest run I always had spaee EW and was continually short on EA 09:32 putting in: blessed bag of holding, +2 gdsm, amulet of reflection 09:32 ooh this potion shop had holy water *and* unholy water 09:32 but, one common early game problem is not having a good weapon 09:32 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:30672 09:32 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:30673 09:32 I don't know which is which, bought them both 09:32 I even enchanted my pick-axe to +6 in case I needed to dig with it 09:32 and the EW stack fixes that problem, so it's a good swap chest idea because someone might really need it 09:33 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) removed karafruit's 6 cursed scrolls of teleportation from the swap chest, on T:81868 09:33 yeah I feel like EW is better for mines and EA for valley in general 09:33 have fun levelporting Furey! 09:33 go downstairs, hobgoblin with a wand point-blank 09:34 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 740 points, 2449 turns, killed by a wand 09:34 thanks, helps me recover from a medusa diving accident 09:34 oof I kinda did something similar 09:34 but for lucky it didn't get in my boh 09:35 I thought the square was a fountain because I was only half paying attention, but it was water 09:36 afterwards i noticed i had boots of water walking in my bag 09:36 also my clan mates suggested an anti-splat rest break 09:36 oof 09:38 -!- doctwo has joined #tnnt 09:38 I love that stage of the game where you write a million scrolls of enchant armor and end up with -42 AC :D 09:39 @shivanhunter: I generally write, like, 4 scrolls of enchant armor and end up with -24 AC 09:39 and then spam full healing potions on Astral 09:39 heh 09:39 it's more interesting, also faster 09:40 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 13213 points, 14507 turns, killed by an energy vortex 09:41 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Kni Hum Mal Law), 942 points, 3036 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 09:41 -!- docpi has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:41 ais523: the best is when every scroll is 3 points 09:42 fwiw ?oEA balance is completely screwed up in NetHack at the moment 09:43 the game can't handle AC going from -7ish to -40ish post-Castle 09:44 -!- joes has joined #tnnt 09:44 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) has entered the Arena, on T:31274 09:44 mkot just seems way better than high ac 09:45 yes, half damage is amazing 09:46 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Kni Hum Mal Law), 207 points, 380 turns, killed by a dwarf 09:46 [EU] Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:3873 09:47 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed BEHiker91W the Lady in a deathmatch, on T:31350 09:47 I don't know why The Lady wants me to slay giants, there aren't any around here! 09:48 just hush and take the longsword 09:48 lol, Cloudmillion found Mjöllnir in the Tourist quest 09:50 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:31533 09:51 i wonder how much AC is actually sensible considering the average attack strength of a monster 09:51 there has to be a sweet spot 09:51 i would guess its around -23 or -24 ac 09:52 at some point there has to be some diminishing returns damage reduction wise 09:54 people've observed as much 09:54 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Armor_class#Armor_class_and_damage_averages 09:54 Jabberwock does 40 damage average... 09:55 [US] Darothok (Arc Hum Mal Law) destroyed Dictyostelium's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:4449 09:55 oh wow raxvulpine was the one doing the MIT course 09:56 haven't seen her name in ages 10:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-11 10:00 UTC: Games: 12, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 34701 turns, 26078 points. (75%Neu), 19d 13:59 remaining. 10:00 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 ring of levitation", on T:32504 10:00 from experience, there's not much difference between ac -40 and ac -68. the riders miss a few more times but not enough to affect strategy. 10:01 -68 lol 10:01 -68 is the most disappointing AC 10:01 you're that low and still one away from perfect 10:02 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) genocided class R, on T:82932 10:02 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:32512 10:02 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:29036 10:03 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29038 10:03 ^ first time, blind 10:04 -!- arahael has joined #tnnt 10:04 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating an egg, on T:5044 10:05 -!- anselmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:06 imma kill a wizard 10:06 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:19319 10:07 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:19324 10:07 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:32684 10:07 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:32685 10:07 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:32685 10:08 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 cloak of protection", on T:32687 10:08 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:19368 10:11 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:19487 10:11 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:19489 10:13 rodney either spawned with or death-dropped cleaver lol 10:13 lol 10:14 he doesn't have a weapon attack so i guess its a death drop 10:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:17 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 10:20 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:19967 10:23 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:20019 10:24 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 10:24 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:193 10:25 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) has entered the Arena, on T:84063 10:26 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:20184 10:27 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed cathartes the Student of Waters in a deathmatch, on T:84120 10:28 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:20362 10:29 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12499 10:33 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) genocided class P, on T:84748 10:34 does tnnt change mysterious force chances? 10:34 i was only forced back twice 10:34 Don't think so 10:34 sweet, got super lucky then 10:34 mysterious force luck is the best luck 10:35 lawful is least affected I think? 10:35 most 10:35 lawful is most, chaotic is least 10:35 ah, thx 10:36 a bit rusty? :P 10:36 yeah don't play much vanilla :-) 10:36 flex 10:37 my 2 previous lawful ascs were not too bad really 10:37 :D 10:37 heheh 10:37 stenno: tnnt doesn't touch game mechanics 10:38 good to know 10:38 [EU] Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:6475 10:38 that's more like it 10:38 I can always keep giantslayer in case I want to lay giants 10:39 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:53588 10:40 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:30736 10:41 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 18467 points, 6615 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 10:43 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:43 -!- arahael has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:44 T:21k, about to hit the planes: first towel/blindfold 10:44 nice 10:44 you played the whole game without towel/blindfold?? 10:44 yeah 10:45 polyless conduct? 10:45 even got telepathy really early 10:45 i did poly a lot, never got it lol 10:45 must've poly'd at least 50 tools 10:45 oh wow 10:45 sometimes RNG is stubborn like that 10:45 now i got it through my last polypiling 10:45 yeah 10:46 [EU] spontiff (Pri Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:3155 10:46 also _never_ found a scroll of magic mapping and didn't get it through polypiling 10:46 had to unknown-write it after vlad 10:49 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) removed GrmlyFndsh's uncursed scroll of taming from the swap chest, on T:31061 10:49 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:53757 10:49 -!- arahael has joined #tnnt 10:50 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:34089 10:53 [EU] khamul (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:47681 10:53 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:34344 11:00 [US] Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1703 11:00 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:34901 11:02 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1196 points, 699 turns, killed by a wand 11:02 Wand of death? 11:03 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:35093 11:03 $lastgame Arahael 11:03 Mitzutsune: [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/tnnt/dumplog/1699699351.tnnt.html 11:04 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "+2 blessed fixed rustproof helm of telepathy", on T:31416 11:04 perhaps 11:09 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 14053 points, 11092 turns, killed by a balrog 11:10 I wonder what a balrog was doing in mines end 11:10 poly trap, probably 11:11 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:19471 11:11 sounds tolkienesque, a balrog in the mines 11:11 only they were the gnomish mines, not the dwarvish mines :-) 11:12 [EU] HalNovek (Rog Orc Mal Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:30748 11:14 -!- engelson has joined #tnnt 11:17 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:19489 11:17 -!- aoei\SplendorOfY is now known as aoei 11:18 [EU] khamul (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:48720 11:18 Can I safely wish for an artifact if I have only 39 HP? 11:18 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 225 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32125 11:19 Super-early game, that's the difficulty. 11:19 arahael, only if you have magic resistance or the artifact is not an intelligent one. 11:20 Though the chance of taking 39 damage is very small 11:20 On 4d10 11:21 Andrio: I don't. Hmm. 11:21 This is a turn 574 wish. 11:21 Never had that happen before! 11:21 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 11:21 Honestly thinking of just getting speedboots. 11:22 I don't even have boots right now. :D 11:23 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 697 points, 3774 turns, killed by a gecko 11:23 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed fireproof +2 speedboots", on T:574 11:23 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:23 Bah, didn't even get the enchantment. 11:23 probably did get them blessed and fixed 11:23 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:32253 11:24 and no dragonhide :-( 11:24 -!- xdminsy has joined #tnnt 11:24 why not comr. 11:24 robe? 11:24 arahael: hi how are you? 11:24 I think robe cannot protect one from death ray lol. 11:24 aoei: long time! I'm good, exhausted. When did we last chat? Months ago? If so, then I've since moved. 11:25 -!- engelson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:25 death ray is unlikely, even though I think I was victim to that. And I haven't done soko yet. 11:26 If I had done soko and didn't get MR there or haven't found mr before the quest, then yeah, I'd wish for it if I was getting to that point. 11:26 reflection in soko you mean 11:26 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 31 points, 413 turns, killed by a sewer rat 11:27 for MR probably the PYEC? 11:27 mobileuser: Oh, I forgot vanilla doesn't give mr in soko. 11:27 But anyway, there's still a fairly high probability of finding mr somewhere. 11:27 (Surely) 11:27 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:55794 11:28 -!- BestGorilla has joined #tnnt 11:28 arahael: feels like months to a year idk 11:28 [US] [D]: bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1663 points, 5526 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning (and one other game not reported) 11:28 I am SO not ok with this. 11:29 This is the second insta death from a single wand. 11:29 [US] wispofvapor (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:46223 11:29 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:29 [US] wispofvapor (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:46235 11:29 -!- xdminsy has joined #tnnt 11:29 [US] [D]: Taw (Mon Hum Mal Law), 439 points, 1393 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 11:30 Guess rings and wands need to stay in a bag, too. 11:30 [EU] kh (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:19177 11:30 I think MR is quite rare to obtain, cuz there's only a few items provide it. 11:30 aoei: Yeah I was thinking that. So yeah, we've moved. Suddenly, actually, like, literally, got a message from the wife on a friday evening, "Shall I accept this job?", and the very next week we were looking for a new house. :D 11:30 But this was from an exploding ring and wand. 11:30 The first wish I'd always wish for reflection or MR, cuz it is very like to be your only early wish. 11:30 Then if you waste it, there's 50% chance that sokoban won't provide your reflection. 11:31 arahael: o: 11:31 neat 11:31 xdminsy: That's a fairly good point. The reason I went for speed is because in the early game, MR doesn't help me that much... 11:31 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:26629 11:31 That almost means you need to finish the castle without reflection or MR, or wish the medusa's island provide the shield. 11:31 xdminsy: There's a reasonable chance of getting a shield of reflection in medusa's level, though. 11:31 Jinx! 11:31 -!- phinxy has joined #tnnt 11:31 aoei: So now we are basically living in the country. :) In a very lovely place. 11:32 [US] hilarita (Ran Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Venus, on T:2772 11:32 marvelous 11:32 But dealing with a move while still working full time proved extremely stressful, so it's taken a while to settle. 11:32 [US] [D]: Taw (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 25 points, 124 turns, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse 11:32 No regrets though! 11:32 -!- BestGorilla has quit [Client Quit] 11:32 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:56038 11:32 surprisingly easy Juiblex kill 11:32 I just smacked them and they died 11:32 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:26685 11:33 im hanging out with some indian friends at their house in the suburbs, baby naming ceremony and lunch 11:33 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:33 aoei: Oh lovely. :) 11:33 aoei: You're still in europe, right? 11:33 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:18948 11:34 -!- xdminsy has joined #tnnt 11:35 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36 -!- xdminsy has joined #tnnt 11:38 [AU] Cloudmillion (Tou Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 207 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32782 11:41 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:21085 11:41 [EU] [D]: lrrr (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 673 points, 4118 turns, killed by a werewolf 11:41 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:21086 11:41 [US] [D]: hilarita (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 915 points, 3194 turns, killed by a rothe 11:43 -!- HalNovek has joined #tnnt 11:43 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 390 points, 1935 turns, killed by a jackal 11:43 oh, there was a discussion in here a couple of days ago about pacifying horses with tripe 11:44 ais523: You can pacify any pet with any food I think. 11:44 it turns out that the monsters "pony", "horse", "warhorse" specifically have an exception to prevent pacifying them 11:44 Oh, interesting! 11:44 I used to pacify those with a food ration. 11:44 [US] Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3201 11:44 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:21204 11:44 But you can pacify them with apples right? 11:45 [US] [D]: Taw (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 553 points, 1245 turns, killed by a water elemental 11:45 you can tame them with apples 11:45 -!- HalNovek has quit [Client Quit] 11:45 Oh 11:46 apparently pacifying still works with some foods, but not arbitrary comestibles – it has to be vegetarian people-food like pancakes or food rations 11:46 [US] [D]: Everdying (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 1231 points, 3212 turns, killed by a giant ant 11:46 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:46 -!- HalNovek has joined #tnnt 11:47 [EU] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:21265 11:48 $help 11:48 HalNovek: https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnntbot/blob/master/botuse.txt 11:48 [EU] [A]: stenno (Val Hum Fem Law), 1228038 points, 21293 turns, ascended 11:48 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/stenno/tnnt/dumplog/1699558546.tnnt.html 11:48 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 8788 points, 2650 turns, killed by an owlbear 11:48 Damn. 11:48 gg stenno 11:48 Killed an owlbear, altar was 3 squares to the right. 11:48 Congrats stenno. 11:49 Unfortunatley, as I was carrying it, another owlbear appeared. 11:49 thanks 11:49 Congrats! :) 11:49 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:27287 11:49 :) 11:50 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:56693 11:50 [US] [D]: Taw (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 148 points, 635 turns, poisoned by a rotted kobold corpse 11:50 stenno: pog 11:50 PagChomp 11:50 $score 11:50 ais523: Can't find player ais523 on the scoreboard. 11:51 I was wondering what would happen, now that there isn't a unified scoreboard 11:51 really smooth sailing, average valk game. did a few minor mistakes but luckily i was OP enough to fix them 11:51 got super lucky on the asc run with the force so everything chill 11:51 wdym there isnt a unified scoreboard 11:52 Carring an owlbear would likely be overloaded right? 11:52 $score 11:52 xdminsy: Can't find player xdminsy on the scoreboard. 11:52 xdminsy: Extremely. 11:52 owlbears are heavy yaeh 11:52 It was not a good idea. 11:52 Not this early, for sure. 11:52 $score Arasaka 11:52 ashpool: Can't find player Arasaka on the scoreboard. 11:53 u wot 11:53 aoei: there are lots of different leaderboards that measure different things 11:53 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 164 points, 195 turns, killed by a wand 11:53 but there isn't a single "scoreboard" for people to have positions on 11:53 ais523: orite 11:53 ^^ That game was just stupid. Wasn't paying attention. 11:53 (Which is like most of my games tbh) 11:54 ais523: Didn't aoei manage one of them? 11:55 $clanscore Smile Mold 11:55 ashpool: Can't find clan Smile Mold 11:55 $clanscore Smile mold 11:55 ashpool: Can't find clan Smile mold 11:55 D: 11:57 [US] wispofvapor (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:46901 11:57 $tell wop Congrats for the ascension (and at the 1st attempt)! :) I'm playing rogue (chaotic, orc), and I have already an ascension kit even before Castle (I just have to avoid being stoned by Medusa). So we should have all alignments and 3/5 races. 11:57 Will do, HalNovek! 11:58 $clanscore Meanwhile in Europe 11:58 HalNovek: Can't find clan Meanwhile in Europe 11:58 lol ok 11:58 $whereis Arasaka 11:58 ashpool: Arasaka is not playing. 11:59 $whereis Arasaka 11:59 ashpool: [EU] Arasaka : (Arc Dwa Mal Law) T:15497 The Dungeons of Doom level: 12 11:59 $clantag eu Meanwhile in Europe 11:59 $clanscore eu 11:59 HalNovek: Can't find clan eu 11:59 nope :( 12:00 Current Day as of 2023-11-11 12:00 UTC: Games: 304, Asc: 11, Scum: 166. 1136821 turns, 32190302 points. 15d 18:46 gametime. (14%Arc), (53%Hum), (48%Neu), (55%Fem), 19d 11:59 remaining. 12:00 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:57193 12:02 no wand charges used 12:02 [US] Qwesti (Val Hum Fem Neu) became Odin's Envoy of Balance, on T:3990 12:03 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22005 12:05 -!- Staengia has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:05 [US] wispofvapor (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:47194 12:05 [US] wispofvapor (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:47194 12:08 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:1577 12:10 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 silver saber", on T:28562 12:10 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", on T:28563 12:12 DL: 6 +4 gop nice 12:13 [US] wispofvapor (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:47779 12:13 -!- engelson_ has quit [Quit: Quit] 12:13 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 12:18 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:58124 12:18 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:58126 12:18 [US] jonosmalls88 (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:38280 12:18 [US] jonosmalls88 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:38282 12:19 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:90201 12:19 juiblex moved around and dumped me in water, oh well 12:20 * arahael wonders if anybody has ever had the temptation to eat an egg "nethack style". 12:22 I wonder how a nethack player actually eats them actually. I mean, most logically, it involves cracking them right into your mouth, right? Except aren't eggs often a bit too big for that? 12:22 We couldn't do that easily with chicken eggs, lets say. 12:23 [US] wispofvapor (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:48362 12:24 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:90293 12:24 eating non-cooked eggs can be fairly dangerous in real life, due to chicken diseases being passed onto the person who eats them 12:24 ^ 12:24 presumably that isn't a problem in the dungeon 12:24 I think that if you eat raw corpses on the floor you don't care about non-cooked eggs :) 12:25 hero doesn't live long enough to contract long-lived diseases 12:25 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 12:25 Furey: well, there's Ill 12:25 but that's unihornable 12:25 [EU] stenno (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:4250 12:26 yeah that's like eating tainted food irl, food poisoning 12:26 -!- xdminsy has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:27 yani: give caveman role something nice: super eating power. they don't suffer from rotten food, and they don't suffer from overeating, they just go to max satiation and don't even vomit. 12:28 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Novice, on T:2995 12:29 [EU] kh (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:21926 12:29 wow...sergeant picked up a trice corpse 12:29 and make them illiterate 12:29 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:29212 12:29 luckily he also picked a wand of death and tried that first 12:29 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 12:34 [EU] kh (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:22189 12:34 [EU] kh (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22195 12:37 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 270 points, 1021 turns, killed by a large kobold, while unconscious from rotten food 12:37 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:29455 12:38 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:29456 12:38 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:29457 12:38 [EU] stenno (Bar Orc Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4749 12:39 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:29459 12:39 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:25289 12:39 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25291 12:40 [US] queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a burnt pair of riding gloves on an altar, on T:4165 12:40 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:38540 12:41 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 speed boots", on T:29461 12:42 i wonder why the devteam scrolls don't stack 12:42 I guess because they are unique items 12:43 hmm 12:43 like 3 uniques with the same name? 12:43 right 12:43 kinda bends the definition of 'unique' tbf :P 12:43 well they can't be wished for or written... 12:43 i see though, interesting 12:43 eyah 12:43 silly wish considering you can just wish for a shirt though 12:43 makes sense 12:44 lol 12:44 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 T-shirt", on T:29474 12:44 you can't wish for a shirt that also works as a luckstone, gives warning, and changes its print every time you read it 12:44 true 12:45 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:48 -!- Bleeko has joined #tnnt 12:49 [US] [D]: queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 5166 points, 4606 turns, killed by a tengu 12:49 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:29646 12:49 [US] bleeko (Tou Hum Fem Neu) removed DoktorL's uncursed +0 set of gray dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:18066 12:49 [EU] HalNovek (Rog Orc Mal Cha) genocided energy vortex, on T:31353 12:50 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:29707 12:51 [EU] stenno (Bar Orc Mal Cha) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:5721 12:51 mhm 12:51 typo 12:51 thankfully i put all my stuff in before it exploded 12:51 [EU] [Q]: stenno (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 22234 points, 5722 turns, quit 12:53 thats the best thing about that specific typo, you just put all your weapons and food and potions and scrolls into the boh before blowing everything up 12:53 that happens to me maybe once every few years 12:53 of course it had to happen during tnnt 12:54 ah fuck 12:55 post-soko death again too 12:55 so i can just do it yet again 12:55 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:31111 12:55 but congrats on the valk! 12:55 my life has no meaning if i cannot do soko every hour or so 12:56 thanks lol 12:56 at least something 12:59 -!- nurdglaw has joined #tnnt 13:00 [EU] kh (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed marker", on T:22713 13:00 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered her faithful black unicorn, on T:31370 13:01 thankfully my teammates are less clumsy 13:01 On average, maybe 13:02 But two of my deaths were: choked on a food ration and poisoned by rotted brown mold corpse 13:02 [EU] kh (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) has entered the Arena, on T:22727 13:03 [US] [D]: queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 794 points, 1850 turns, killed by a fox 13:04 ^_^" 13:05 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:31659 13:06 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:06 [US] [D]: queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 42 points, 265 turns, killed by a water moccasin 13:06 i got chocoban that game, i almost didn't pick it up but then i remembered the achievement 13:07 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) has entered the Arena, on T:26056 13:09 -!- Bleeko has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:09 [EU] kh (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Ardub the Chevaliere in a deathmatch, on T:22787 13:10 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed WizardOfPoland the Wizard in a deathmatch, on T:26124 13:10 qWhat Have I Unleashed Make a demon lord escape the dungeon 13:10 lol 13:11 so i used a cursed ?oTele donated by karafruit to pop back to my workshop 13:11 i landed one square away from my altar!   A+++ scroll, would pick up again 13:13 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) genocided disenchanter, on T:30550 13:17 [EU] [D]: lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1202 points, 2378 turns, killed by a kitten 13:17 [EU] finitelycraig (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:21508 13:17 [EU] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:52754 13:18 [EU] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:52764 13:21 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) genocided gremlin, on T:31124 13:21 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) genocided green slime, on T:31124 13:22 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5582 points, 4806 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 13:24 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:33456 13:24 [US] [Q]: queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1844 points, 2096 turns, quit 13:25 [EU] [D]: lacca (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 136 points, 762 turns, killed by a goblin 13:26 [EU] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:52836 13:26 [EU] kh (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:23009 13:27 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:26211 13:28 [EU] nurdglaw (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Andrio's ghost, the former Wanderer, on T:26525 13:29 [EU] kh (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:23067 13:32 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 121 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33972 13:34 [EU] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:53129 13:34 [EU] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:53131 13:35 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:27099 13:36 [EU] [D]: lrrr (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 833 points, 7695 turns, killed by an owlbear 13:36 [US] eitlarry (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4827 13:37 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 13:38 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:38 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:26914 13:41 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "marker", on T:26924 13:41 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "marker", on T:26925 13:42 Who put the missing code scroll on a teleport trap? 13:42 lol 13:42 it's a poop dollar prank 13:42 -!- jientho has joined #tnnt 13:43 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1550 points, 2359 turns, killed by a giant ant 13:43 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34417 13:43 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:34419 13:44 [US] [D]: eitkrog (Sam Hum Mal Law), 495 points, 1781 turns, killed by a giant ant 13:47 -!- jientho has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:48 I know they don't make achievements that are specific to one role... 13:49 but it would have been cool if I got something for throwing a banana at the Minion 13:49 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:31692 13:50 is he ape-like? 13:50 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31707 13:50 or has he shown evidence of a potassium deficiency? 13:50 no...but presumably he's yellow and capsule-shaped 13:51 his tile is red and stout 13:51 [EU] Arasaka (Arc Dwa Mal Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:20539 13:52 you know the minions...from Despicable Me? 13:52 oh, ok yeah i get it now 13:52 those guys definitely have a potassium dificiency 13:52 efot, there are achievements specific to one role 13:53 oh cool 13:53 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:27436 13:53 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:27467 13:53 I'm looking...which ones? 13:54 -!- nabru has quit [Server closed connection] 13:54 -!- nabru has joined #tnnt 13:54 'Obligatory Pointy Hat' is wizard-specific. 13:54 It might be the only on 13:54 ahh right 13:55 and there is the Mjollnir one too 13:55 sure, but many roles can get that 13:55 Mjollnir isn't role-specific, yeah. 13:55 yes but only Valkyrie can throw it and get it back 13:56 or do I remember wrong? 13:56 Valk with 25 strength are the only ones, yes 13:56 ah good point 13:56 Ah, yeah. 13:57 'Buffy' and 'I'm Free! I'm Free!' get honourable mention because they're specific to two or three roles 13:57 Right! I almost forgot that Knights can turn undead too... the most useless command in Nethack XD 13:58 And jump... 13:58 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 285 points, 1641 turns, killed by a baby orange dragon 13:59 [EU] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:55198 14:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-11 14:00 UTC: Games: 12, Asc: 0, Scum: 1. 0d 03:20 gametime. (55%Wiz), 19d 09:59 remaining. 14:00 sometimes if your steed is asleep and wont move, you may still be able to jump. idk if this works in 3.6/tnnt 14:01 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:2091 14:02 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 704 points, 2244 turns, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 14:02 so you can't just use #turn if you have the spell? 14:02 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 1000 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:28162 14:03 #turn will cast the spell if you know it and aren't a knight or priest, but that can't outright destroy undead. 14:03 ahhh 14:03 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:28220 14:03 my knowledge of classes that aren't arch or healer is pretty limited :) 14:04 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:28976 14:05 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 1234 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:28627 14:05 [EU] khamul (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:50194 14:06 [EU] khamul (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:50196 14:06 [US] Qwesti (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5078 14:07 [EU] Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a candy bar wrapper, on T:3871 14:07 [EU] Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:3981 14:07 [US] wispofvapor (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:49140 14:08 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:28880 14:09 glad my scrolls are Furey-approved :D 14:11 [US] [D]: eitkrog (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1248 points, 2223 turns, killed by a plains centaur 14:12 [EU] [D]: nurdglaw (Val Hum Fem Law), 80480 points, 27233 turns, killed by an invisible titan 14:13 [EU] Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:6737 14:14 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1052 points, 7486 turns, poisoned by a rabid rat (and one other game not reported) 14:15 [EU] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:56349 14:16 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 405 points, 1602 turns, killed by the wrath of Ishtar 14:16 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:29737 14:16 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:29738 14:16 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 131 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33291 14:19 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:33513 14:22 is there a swapchest in the VoD only? 14:22 ashpool: there's one in Mines' End 14:22 oh sweet 14:23 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:29340 14:23 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 13 arrows on an altar, on T:3346 14:24 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 4568 points, 5135 turns, killed by a soldier ant 14:25 ah F, gnome jumped into polytrap and become a master lich, fortunately it's peaceful 14:25 [US] wispofvapor (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "greased magic marker", on T:49303 14:25 [tnnt] entrez pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnnt/compare/30db213024f2...566731d83eac 14:25 [tnnt] entrez 566731d - Fix: MRE achievement not granted if ration rotten 14:25 thanks NetSysFire, good catch 14:26 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "holy ring of teleport control", on T:30499 14:27 always hard to not get nervous when approaching Rodney... lol 14:27 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:30522 14:27 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:30524 14:28 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:30551 14:30 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) removed Furey's uncursed +2 gray dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:2073 14:31 thanks, Furey 14:33 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:30738 14:33 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:62596 14:33 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:30745 14:33 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:62601 14:34 so it begins... 14:34 [US] tsingi (Pri Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:19869 14:35 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 801 points, 1868 turns, killed by a small mimic 14:35 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 14:36 sup Furey, just yoinked the book from Rodney 14:36 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:2328 14:36 asc run time! 14:36 that is the worst time 14:36 Furey: and I got your GDSM from the swapchest 14:36 all right, wear it in good health 14:37 gonna wish up some markers 14:37 I'm glad my scrolls were Furey-approved! :) 14:39 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:62919 14:39 [EU] finitelycraig (Bar Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:25388 14:40 -!- theRaisse has joined #tnnt 14:40 don't mind my current turn count LMAO 14:41 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:30021 14:41 [US] wispofvapor (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:49809 14:41 -!- engelson has joined #tnnt 14:41 [EU] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:57044 14:42 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "2 scrolls of genocide", on T:30025 14:42 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided class R, on T:30028 14:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:44 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:32750 14:44 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker named Never gonna give you up", on T:93681 14:44 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:32750 14:44 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker named Never gonna let you down", on T:93682 14:45 okay 14:45 [US] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Huan Ti, on T:12955 14:45 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker named Never gonna run around and desert you", on T:93687 14:46 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker named Never gonna make you cry", on T:93690 14:46 [US] [D]: Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2317 points, 3772 turns, killed by a rothe 14:46 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker named Never gonna say goodbye", on T:93693 14:46 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class v, on T:32851 14:47 we've been rickrolled 14:47 lol 14:48 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 102 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:34477 14:48 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker named Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you", on T:94020 14:48 ^^ 14:49 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) removed DoktorL's wand of death (0:5) from the swap chest, on T:38110 14:49 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?297 14:50 [EU] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:57256 14:52 -!- karafruit13 has joined #tnnt 14:52 [US] wispofvapor (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:50167 14:52 [EU] DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:33094 14:52 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:63261 14:52 10 years ago. 14:52 [EU] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:53880 14:53 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:63266 14:53 [EU] [A]: DoktorL (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1458902 points, 33116 turns, ascended 14:53 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DoktorL/tnnt/dumplog/1699663563.tnnt.html 14:53 * hothraxxa marks his calendar to rickroll the channel in 2033 14:53 I'll be joining you soon DoktorL 14:53 Congrats! And still streaking! :) 14:53 -!- klepto has joined #tnnt 14:54 [US] wispofvapor (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:50227 14:54 [EU] elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:57384 14:54 alright who wants to bet how many times I get sent back? 14:54 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38352 14:54 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) found kitten, on T:4107 14:54 infinite treadmill on asmo level 14:54 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:38353 14:55 Mitzutsune: try to beat my 42 levels 14:55 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:38370 14:56 42??? lol 14:56 not sure whether that counts the three times i was sent to the same level 14:56 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 132 points, 740 turns, killed by a dwarf 14:56 Your scroll labeled PLZ RETURN TO DEVTEAM catches fire and burns! 14:56 D: 14:56 this is why i bag those things immediately 14:57 happened to me once 14:57 hothraxxa: haven't found any bags yet 14:57 oh dear, bad luck 14:57 [EU] [A]: elenmirie (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2083164 points, 57402 turns, ascended 14:57 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/tnnt/dumplog/1699460000.tnnt.html 14:57 congrats elenmirie 14:57 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:35409 14:57 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:35413 14:57 thanks hothraxxa 14:57 Congrats! :) 14:58 thanks HalNovek! 14:58 i bagged one like 3 turns before turning a corner to a pyrolisk this year 14:58 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:38461 14:58 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:38462 14:58 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest1017 14:58 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:58 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 14:58 saw the pyrolisk and was like wow, i totally would have forgot to bag that scroll if i hadnt just picked up another tele scroll and would have lost it to him 14:58 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Ran Hum Fem Cha), 37 points, 404 turns, killed by a jackal 14:59 this is one good reason to keep a small main inventory 14:59 at least, when playing with perm_invent 14:59 i dont use perm invent because im too lazy 14:59 you can quickly notice when you've forgotten to bag a scroll because the inventory listing is too long 15:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-11 15:00 UTC: Games: 12, Asc: 2, Scum: 0. 143225 turns, 3633810 points. (58%Fem), 19d 08:59 remaining. 15:00 [US] wispofvapor (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Death, on T:50329 15:00 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 639 points, 1486 turns, killed by a giant ant 15:00 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 32 points, 156 turns, killed by a water demon 15:00 gg elenmirie! 15:00 ty klepto! 15:01 -!- Guest1017 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:01 yaaay first confirmed bug found \o/ 15:02 gz elenmirie 15:02 gz NetSysFire 15:02 ty tromix 15:03 q t (to not ping again) confirmed and fixed that when you eat a k ration when its rotten it doesnt count for the achievement 15:04 [US] [A]: wispofvapor (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3667304 points, 50368 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/w/wispofvapor/tnnt/dumplog/1699393112.tnnt.html 15:04 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:64513 15:05 made it out of gehennom 15:06 I think that was around 10 setbacks 15:06 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:16431 15:06 nice and easy 15:08 -!- jientho has joined #tnnt 15:08 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:39379 15:09 Congrats wispofvapor! :) 15:09 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 283 points, 1435 turns, killed by a small mimic 15:09 You push the boulder and suddenly it disappears! 15:10 ok, plan to cover a teleport trap: FAIL 15:10 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1187 15:10 phew. okay. I'm finally at dlvl1 15:10 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1110 points, 4014 turns, killed by a dwarf 15:11 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 549 points, 1464 turns, killed by a rothe 15:11 almost there! :) 15:11 I'm just worried I won't have enough, but I should be fine 15:12 [US] [D]: jientho (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 610 points, 2097 turns, killed by a dwarf 15:12 I get to Astral underprepared frequently, and typically cover for it with some combination of conflict, potions of full healing and amulets of life saving (which I have been known to refer to as "amulets of full healing" on occasion) 15:13 i just like the concept of rolling into astral in your boxers and the level of casualness it implies 15:13 lol 15:14 Mitzutsune: you do have enough :) 15:15 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed fixed +2 historic magic marker named "Different Times"", on T:65400 15:15 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:16950 15:15 -!- Bleeko has joined #tnnt 15:15 Mitzutsune: did't you just wish for a marker with 2 charges 15:15 stop it with the gifts, I just want clovers 15:15 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 668 points, 937 turns, killed by a hobbit 15:16 ashpool no? if the interpreter took +2 to mean two charges, that would be absurd haha 15:16 pretty sure you aren't allowed to specify charges 15:16 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:40580 15:16 can you wish for charges in non-wiz mode 15:16 :^) 15:16 actually, nevermind, wiki says that is probably a 2 charge marker 15:16 kekw 15:17 whatever 15:17 fuck it we ball 15:17 at least you dont need to id it to know how many charges it has 15:17 lol 15:18 LMAO my cat just appeared at dlvl1 15:18 or at least it claims to be. it's a kitten when I know it was a leveled up cat 15:18 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 4 points, 281 turns, killed by a falling rock 15:19 [US] Qwesti (Val Hum Fem Neu) removed Furey's blessed bag of holding from the swap chest, on T:6232 15:21 [US] allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:1080 15:21 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:40676 15:22 alright fuck it, here we go 15:22 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:65440 15:22 -!- Waffa has joined #tnnt 15:22 [US] jmcunx (Ran Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:2585 15:23 its +2 marker, yes 15:23 so 0:2 marker 15:23 the same field internally is used for charges on charged items and for enchantment on enchanted items 15:23 so that's why they are synonyms in the wish parser 15:23 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed partly eaten cockatrice corpse", on T:40740 15:24 [EU] elenmirie (Cav Gno Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:983 15:24 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 964 points, 1265 turns, killed by a giant bat 15:24 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:40751 15:24 [EU] Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed ring of free action", on T:41898 15:24 [EU] engelson (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Staengia's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:4953 15:25 i was wondering, if a single value is used for erosion, how can an item be both rusty and corroded? 15:26 there are 2 fields for erosion, oeroded1 and oeroded2 15:26 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:40801 15:26 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 512 points, 1729 turns, killed by a giant bat 15:26 one is used for rusty and the other for corroded 15:26 ah, and i guess for organic items those are rendered as burnt and rotten 15:27 luckily they aren't combined in a single bitfield and need masks to extract lol 15:27 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 753 points, 2915 turns, killed by an elf zombie 15:27 [US] Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "cursed figurine of a woodchuck", on T:40823 15:27 yeah I think that's probably right ashpool 15:27 [EU] [D]: engelson (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 3944 points, 4954 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 15:27 I don't remember exactly, rotten may be based on age/cursed rather than one of the erosion fields 15:28 nooo engelson, early wand of wishing :'( 15:28 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:32014 15:28 [EU] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:55793 15:28 $lastgame 15:28 HalNovek: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jmcunx/tnnt/dumplog/1699714860.tnnt.html | [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/engelson/tnnt/dumplog/1699642557.tnnt.html | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Andrio/tnnt/dumplog/1699711460.tnnt.html 15:29 [US] [A]: Shrigis (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2206142 points, 40827 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Shrigis/tnnt/dumplog/1699631751.tnnt.html 15:29 qt: i was probably thinking about erodeproofing rather than erosion then 15:30 [EU] elenmirie (Cav Gno Fem Neu) destroyed jientho's ghost, the former Empiric, on T:2040 15:30 Go elenmirie! :-) 15:30 :) 15:31 hey what's the setting to turn off the sparkles when an effect happens, again? 15:31 sparkle? 15:31 I think so, thanks 15:31 [US] bleeko (Tou Hum Fem Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:18820 15:32 @ashpool - Ma laasot... 15:32 engelson: Message from K2 at 2022-11-08 12:01 UTC: richards hasnt finished a game yet, that's why there arent any stats yet. I see a boat load of temp achievements though 15:32 [US] [D]: Qwesti (Val Hum Fem Neu), 11324 points, 6678 turns, killed by a troll, while unconscious from rotten food 15:34 craziest part is that i never found a single silver saber 15:35 [US] allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:2302 15:35 i was half expecting the very next captain to have one right after making that wish 15:35 Congrats Shrigis! :) Did you wish for it? 15:35 a silver saber 15:36 for 2-weaponing 15:36 I wished for a silver spear in my last run, no shame in needing some silver :) 15:36 hah old message 15:36 oooooold 15:37 It sucks when you don't find not even a silver spear or dagger... 15:39 polypile for one :D 15:39 there's often a silver saber in the deathmatch 15:39 if the ascended player was twoweaponing with one 15:39 ashool nothing to do ((( 15:43 the portal to astral... 15:43 nervous 15:44 [US] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:14837 15:44 it's ok, you're improve your standings on one of the leaderboards either way 15:44 either ascensions or splats 15:45 I know I have a blessed taming scroll... maybe use my last wish on reverse geno for purple rain? 15:45 if you have any cursed scrolls, wish for marker instead 15:45 cockatrice corpse 15:46 only the riders are immune to stoning, everything else dies in 1 hit 15:46 then you can revgeno chickens and recharge wands 15:46 no cursed blank scrolls sadly 15:46 basics first, get unburdened 15:46 purple rain with just 1 scroll is weak 15:46 head lose the pick-axe :D 15:47 [US] bestgorilla (Rog Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a runed dagger named Sting on an altar, on T:4114 15:47 I'm still mourning the +6 pick-axe I had to abandon on astral :( 15:47 time to get rid of the potions I *totally* promised myself I would use... 15:47 [EU] Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:43689 15:47 perhaps a bit too much of hording haha 15:48 why do u only have -23 ac 15:48 because I'm bad '=( 15:48 it's enough :p 15:48 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 310 points, 1968 turns, fell into a pit (and 31 other games not reported) 15:48 can make full healings 15:49 like, a lot of full healings 15:49 true... 15:49 yeah 165 hp needs some buffing 15:49 it is generally better to do the buffing as your HP gets low, though 15:50 like, instead of quaffing them all before Astral, quaff them as you get damaged 15:50 dip extra healing into gain level right? 15:50 you still get the max HP increase and you heal a lot of damage in the process 15:50 Mitzutsune: yes, gain energy also works (but not gain ability) 15:50 gain energy better, then you can quaff gain level directly 15:50 this is the part where I worry, part of me feels like I'm being judged lmao 15:50 but no matter 15:51 first dip extra healing into stuf, then leftover gain levels into last remaining extra healing if any 15:51 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5277 15:51 i'm gonna defer to arseniy, they are the best (and not just at their own asc runs) 15:51 and then with conflict, teleport wands and a stack of full healings, you win :) 15:51 gl 15:53 unburden before going to Astral 15:53 working on it ^^;; 15:53 two traps and two eels, scary 15:53 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) removed Furey's uncursed amulet of reflection from the swap chest, on T:5529 15:53 -!- engelson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:53 I think I can safely just dump all of these ones I have selected 15:54 yes 15:54 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 2625 points, 4063 turns, killed by a centipede, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:54 [EU] Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed +3 rustproof cloak of protection", on T:44009 15:55 abandon the pick-axe, it doesn't do anything on Astral 15:55 does bugle work on elementals 15:55 yes 15:55 although I'm not sure whether it's 100% or a lower success rate 15:55 [EU] Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed +3 rustproof shirt", on T:44012 15:56 bell of opening isn't useful on Astral (but is fairly light) – Candelabrum is useful only if planning to jump 15:56 they can be fun to ascend with but are dispensable 15:56 oh, get rid of the scrolls of create and confuse monster 15:57 and mapping 15:57 and scrolls of teleportation aren't useful on Astral 15:57 (wands of teleportation are very useful, but not scrolls) 15:57 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, 128 turns, killed by a goblin (and 30 other games not reported) 15:57 whoops, all wands 15:58 Arseniy is clearly the expert on ascending among us, but I'm the expert on reducing inventory weight 15:58 you will not need more than two wands of digging on Astral, and even one is marginal 15:58 I'm the expert of feeling bad for abandoning pick-axes 15:58 -!- swegen has quit [Server closed connection] 15:58 and attack wands are also mostly useless, the enemies are too powerful for them to do meaningful damage (lightning is probably best if you want to keep some) 15:58 -!- swegen has joined #tnnt 15:59 the wands of digging are good for erasing doors at range, which helps a lot, but they don't do anything else 15:59 you do not need two tinning kits, which are very heavy – and you don't even need one unless you're trying stupid ascension tricks 15:59 I probably should've asked you BEFORE going up haha 15:59 don't mind me 15:59 I just grab shit 16:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-11 16:00 UTC: Games: 81, Asc: 2, Scum: 63. 1d 15:47 gametime. (50%Hum), 19d 07:59 remaining. 16:00 [US] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:1820 16:00 keeping one light source can be helpful, Astral is often dark 16:00 anything else? I think this is most of it 16:01 should be more than enough for unburdened 16:01 I'm hoping that's enough 16:01 and if you take out too much at once you may end up in trouble on Water 16:01 [US] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:15509 16:01 dno't drop the conflict ring 16:01 well shit 16:02 good catch :) 16:02 or the teleport wand 16:02 and keep the wand of death if you have a way to recharge it 16:02 I do have one more reliable wish... maybe blessed charging? 16:02 [US] bouquet (Rog Hum Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:1645 16:03 3 blessed charging if you do that 16:03 next time you should probably do all this before waking up the wizard 16:03 that is not a terrible option 16:03 yeah yeah yeah 16:03 don't need to tell me twice haha, sorry 16:03 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:33427 16:03 wands of death solve a lot of problems on Astral (but do not zap them at Death) 16:03 or at the angels, it doesn't work on them 16:04 truth be told I think it was mostly like, I don't think everyone was awake when I was doing my run up 16:04 but such is life 16:04 I should be able to clutch it out 16:04 [US] jientho (Mon Hum Mal Cha) found kitten, on T:894 16:04 [EU] Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:44268 16:05 [EU] Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:44269 16:05 you got this Mitzu :) 16:05 my survival rate on Astral has gone way up recently, I used to die there frequently 16:05 but got better with practice at doing it with ridiculously weak characters 16:05 Mitzutsune: use the bugle on air 16:05 ugh, still burdened 16:05 hothraxxa: Mitzutsune is already on Water 16:05 keeps the elementals away and also gets you out of them 16:05 it didn't yoink everything ais523, inventory size 16:05 one sec 16:05 oh 16:05 <--- not paying attention 16:06 junk the cursed scroll of remove curse, ti's not worth spending the time uncursing that 16:06 [US] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:3270 16:06 and the wands of striking are redundant to wands of digging, basically everything is immune to striking and you don't need both to open doors 16:07 junking the tinning kits will help a lot, anyway 16:07 [US] [D]: wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1071 points, 3432 turns, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 16:07 tada 16:07 Your movements are now unencumbered. 16:07 also turn off autopickup for Astral, unless you're relying on ranged weapons 16:08 okay so, where were we 16:08 wish for blessed charging for death wand 16:08 + 16:08 there are multiple Astral strategies but that seems ilke one of the better ones 16:08 (if you get more than one scroll, bag the rest, there can be fire attacks on Astral) 16:08 should I attempt to wrest one more wish while I'm here? 16:08 if so what? 16:09 I think spending an average of 121 turns wresting is more likely to make something go wrong than the wish is worth – but I may be wrong on that 16:09 Rodney could come back, for example 16:09 oh, fair point 16:09 alas 16:10 also do you think I should conflict ring 16:10 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:723 16:10 in 3.4.3 I would say yes – in 3.6 it is less important 16:10 I normally do do it; your character looks like it can win either way 16:11 "2 blessed scrolls of charging" 16:11 or "2 blessed scroll of charging" also works 16:11 so this is correct 16:11 just casually checking the wiki to make sure I don't type "recharging" like a dummy 16:11 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scroll of charging", on T:65867 16:12 alright I think I'm as ready as I'm gonna get 16:12 you have a good setup for meleeing Riders, but there is always some risk involved with that 16:12 ideally I'd not pick Death's path first 16:12 with 165 max HP, though, if something goes wrong you should have time to unbag and quaff a !oFH 16:12 do you have intrinsic telepathy? 16:12 yep 16:12 you can try wearing the towel as you enter 16:12 farlook the riders, then remove it immediately 16:13 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:34443 16:13 you can't rename artifacts 16:13 unfortunate 16:13 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 845 points, 1782 turns, killed by a giant bat 16:13 YANI: if you're playing on the server when it is 11:11 the game asks you to make a wish and 1 time out of 100 it comes true. 16:14 why not 1/111 16:14 smh 16:14 [EU] elenmirie (Cav Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 grey dragon scale mail", on T:3619 16:14 oh, don't wear the towel as you enter the portal 16:14 in case you step on the wrong square 16:14 I figured that out LMAO 16:14 Call that a YABA 16:14 [US] SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha) found kitten, on T:1493 16:14 YABI* 16:14 lessons learned the easy way 16:15 true! 16:15 anyways 16:15 Is the making a wish at 11:11 an international thing or just a US thing? 16:15 Death left, Pest mid, Famine right 16:15 literally never heard of that 16:16 Famine is the easier 16:16 middle is the easiest to get to on this layout; Famine is slightly easier than Pestilence but you should be great against either 16:16 I think I would do middle first to not get bogged down by that mass of enemies on the way to the right 16:16 good idea 16:16 ais523 is right! :) 16:16 Pest > Famine > Death, then, if I'm forced to grand tour 16:16 and there is no way to tell which altar is correct until you get very close 16:17 yes there is 16:17 wand of probing in 3.6 16:17 I generally nearlook them – there are a few clues that let you figure it out from a couple of squares away but I prefer to not rely on those 16:17 really? 16:17 [US] [D]: SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 494 points, 1698 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 16:17 I'm still not sure if I should conflict or not tbh 16:17 hothraxxa: that's still *fairly* close, I guess, but I genuinely didn't know that 16:17 wand of probing will reveal which high priest 16:17 [US] [D]: Corbin (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 806 points, 1572 turns, killed by a gnome 16:18 Mitzutsune: one thing I sometimes do is to try without conflict first, then put it on if I'm struggling 16:18 good idea 16:18 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:33962 16:18 do you have more wands of tp? 16:18 this also has the benefit that if the tame angels die naturally in the fighting, you don't get the penalty for using conflict 16:18 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fireproof +2 robe", on T:44036 16:18 hothraxxa: oh, wow! Never knew that!  :) 16:18 [EU] elenmirie (Cav Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Ishtar, on T:4122 16:18 1 extra hothraxxa 16:19 what makes you ask? 16:19 the basic rule is – wands of death to clear Riders / human enemies – wands of teleport to clear angels and devils – wands of digging to clear doors 16:19 it is best to erase doors rather than opening them normally, because being able to move diagonally through them is very helpful 16:19 take it out. teleport nasties except the riders 16:19 also you cna break it if you get mobbed 16:19 do not ever teleport the Riders, they don't like it 16:19 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2060 points, 1715 turns, killed by an ettin zombie 16:19 [US] [D]: SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 149 points, 319 turns, killed by a fox 16:19 that includes their corpses, right? 16:20 teleporting riders brings them right next to you 16:20 yes 16:20 -!- klepto has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:20 I turned off sparkles but it's still giving them to me 16:20 hm 16:20 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Hum Fem Neu), 214 points, 1020 turns, killed by a wand 16:21 so Astral is a little complicated because meleeing monsters is slow, but makes the level permanently easier, whereas teleporting them or running past them is faster but only postpones the problem 16:21 zap digging at that door 16:21 zap that door 16:21 [EU] khamul (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +3 helm of brilliance", on T:53294 16:21 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:4957 16:21 also, try not to get surrounded – it isn't always possible to avoid but it is safer if you aren't 16:22 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:65880 16:22 against Pestilence you have the choice of death zap or melee 16:22 the bugle will work 16:22 do I need to be directly next to them for bugle to work? 16:22 no, there's a range 16:22 no it has a range of 2 16:22 hothraxxa: thanks, I couldn't remember the exact range 16:22 i coukd be wriong but that's what i work with 16:23 melee down weak monsters like that stalker 16:23 definitely at least 2 16:23 to make room 16:23 [US] a1 (Kni Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur, on T:4829 16:23 the level will probably end up full of ants at some point, but those are less of an issue 16:23 hm 16:23 you can leave them behind you and clear space in front 16:23 i like the ants since i always bring a magic harp 16:23 if something is zapping lightning, you can postpone curing blindness for a bit – your turns on Astral are very important 16:24 OK, being in melee with two priests at once is a problem 16:24 moving NE, if possible, seems like a good option to become less surrounded 16:24 plus not standing on rider 16:25 the two main options here are a) kill the @s or b) run for the door (you seem to have a clear path) 16:25 i'd run 16:25 I think I'd also run 16:25 i don't melee if i can avoid it 16:25 but it's close 16:26 do I dig the door first 16:26 not if it's open already 16:26 they can resist 16:26 you'd have to close it 16:26 yeah 16:26 so it's faster to just line up 16:26 I'm thinking tele zap N and run 16:26 this is a good position for a tele zap, yes 16:26 that's what i'd do 16:27 you can zap that door 16:27 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:44088 16:27 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:44089 16:27 zap the door, make a break for the altar (avoid angering the high priest if possible, they hit really hard) 16:27 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 591 points, 1526 turns, killed by a kitten 16:27 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) genocided class R, on T:44089 16:27 may want to cure blindness to see the altar 16:27 [US] Unguarded1765 (Mon Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 90 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:55018 16:27 you're probably out of range fo the lightning wand now 16:27 chaotic, damn 16:27 wrong altar, OK 16:27 Famine next, then 16:28 Famine was right? 16:28 yes 16:28 I think I move SW and zap tele maybe? 16:28 if you want to heal up using a potion, this is one of the safer places to spend a spare turn unbagging potions, but I'm not sure it's necessary – you may naturally regen the health anyway 16:28 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 18698 points, 5721 turns, burned by molten lava 16:28 F 16:28 dumb 16:28 accentally walked into lava 16:29 there is a big mass of actually monsters there – angels and @s 16:29 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:34438 16:29 priests are dangerous, player-monsters more so 16:29 wow, two statues of grid bugs on this floor :O 16:29 kick the priest or potion first? 16:29 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1449 points, 2191 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 16:29 "kick" ofc 16:30 don't potion yet, you aren't low enough 16:30 why would you kick the priest? 16:30 can get down to about half HP safely with those stats 16:30 just not sure if I bother with fighting this priest in front of me 16:30 do not fight 16:30 I might do some meleeing, of the priest and then from the square N of the doorway (so that few monsters can reach you at once) – I don't know whether that's correct or not 16:30 waste of time and gives the others a chance to close in 16:31 but there is a big mass of monsters blocking you so it will take several /oTele charges to clear it 16:31 also bugle 16:31 ooh, bugle might work – but those monsters have high monMR so it quite probably won't 16:31 i'd still try it 16:31 oh, check to make sure those angels are hostile 16:31 there are tame angels on the level 16:31 i sure wouldn't fight that priest 16:31 not tame 16:32 hothraxxa: half the reason to go for this particular valk build is so that you can melee on Astral if the monsters get too dense – I agree that running is normally preferable 16:32 but I think this mass of monsters might be too expensive to clear 16:32 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:34572 16:32 and fighting one at a time should be quite doable, it's like being in the Valley 16:32 sure but fighting when you don't have to is not a good idea 16:33 err, not Valley, Sanctum 16:33 I think both strategies are defensible though 16:33 Mitzutsune: did you turn off sparkle in your rcfile or in the in-game options 16:33 [US] allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:7260 16:33 I tried rcfile with !sparkle but I had to in-game to get it to take 16:33 yeah i think it's an option that persists in the savefile 16:33 ah okay 16:33 so changing it in the rcfile won't affect an existing save, only a new gam 16:33 e 16:33 good to know 16:34 anywho... 16:34 the tnnt_notify option for the achievement messages is like that too 16:34 since I have the potion out I think I can get away with a mild amount of swinging 16:34 if anyone would like to turn those off 16:34 the big advantage of melee is that the monsters are gone permanently and won't bother you later 16:34 being slower is a definite problem, but I'm not sure it's even that much slower in this situation 16:34 ate but surely he's not coming back 16:35 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed SkydiveMike's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1376 16:35 aye 16:35 hothraxxa: will if you teleport them 16:35 [US] [D]: wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 116 points, 117 turns, killed by a goblin 16:35 (or will get surrounded if oyu try to press forwards without killing first) 16:35 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Hum Fem Neu), 509 points, 1233 turns, killed by a kitten 16:35 he's not teleporting that guy though 16:36 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed greased bag of holding", on T:16649 16:36 OK, now move diagonally to the square in front of the door 16:36 that is the best square both for fighting and zapping 16:36 worked that time 16:36 because only one enemy can reach you at a time there, and you have a good zap path to hit lots of enemies at once 16:36 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 3176 points, 7519 turns, killed by a fire ant 16:37 I would probably fight from here, it is about the best possible position for fighting from, and zapping won't clear many monsters 16:37 but look for a good opportunity to zap or run 16:37 (if a player-monster turns up, zap them, it is not worth trying to beat those in melee even though it's possible) 16:38 do you know where your vorpla blade is? 16:38 I do not have a vorpal, sorry 16:38 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "+2 Blessed silver saber named Grayswandir", on T:16678 16:38 ah right, then possibly one of the monsters here *does* 16:38 it will be a player-monster if anything 16:38 no that was a way of saying monsters on astral can have it if you don't already know wher it is 16:39 what is that white @ beow the angels? 16:39 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:39 priest 16:39 [US] [D]: telegarn (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 9119 points, 9174 turns, killed by a troll 16:39 if that's a priest, this is a great opportunity to zap tele and run 16:39 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 16:39 -!- rld has quit [Changing host] 16:39 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 16:39 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:39 [US] [D]: wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 62 points, 364 turns, killed by Ms. Krnov; the shopkeeper 16:39 I think I can make it to the door 16:40 so do I 16:40 what are the odds that the rider respawned already? 16:40 possible 16:40 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 25000 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:96260 16:40 worry about that later 16:40 move one step at a time, see if you can spot the rider before moving 16:40 I'd tele zap but I worry the 5 by the far door is the rider 16:40 just be careful yo don't zap tp at the corpse 16:40 this is a legitimate worry 16:41 riders are slow, you can outrun them 16:41 when the rider respawns, if you are still around, let me suggest using your camera 16:41 it works on them? 16:41 he has a camera? 16:41 it sure does 16:41 the bat is unlikely to be a problem, so it is conveniently blocking the doorway for you – this makes melee here better than normal (but this is usually a terrible square to melee from) 16:41 oh yeah, Death did _not_ like having his picture taken in my run last night 16:41 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Hum Fem Neu), 214 points, 491 turns, killed by a magic missile 16:41 oh, bugle 16:42 angels are only monMR 55, there's a good chance that moves the angel 16:42 doesn't seem to have scared the angel 16:42 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 48 points, 191 turns, killed by a fox 16:42 now I think we either melee or try the bugle again 16:43 most of the nearby monsters are fleeing even though the angel isn't, so you aren't going to be surrounded immediately 16:43 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Dwa Fem Law), 178 points, 365 turns, killed by an arrow 16:43 OK, death zap pestilence (or melee if you're feeling brave, which you probably aren't) 16:43 yay 16:44 cannot teleport because now we know where the corpse is 16:44 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 904 points, 1733 turns, killed by a rock piercer 16:44 I bet I can smack the a and be fast enough to skedaddle 16:44 it is a 2 in 3 chance I think 16:44 but you don't lose much if you fail 16:44 just be ready to heal 16:44 Mitzutsune: why not put on conflict instead of lev/ 16:44 we are ready to heal 16:44 [US] [D]: wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 394 points, 960 turns, killed by a kitten 16:44 conflict is a backup plan at this point, it seems 16:44 bouquet: we debated conflict earlier 16:44 and don't get that lev ring cursed 16:44 it wouldn't haev helped much so far 16:45 but why lev? 16:45 also cursed lev is pretty fixable on astral 16:45 bouquet: didn't spend a turn taking it off 16:45 fair 16:45 lev is useless on astral 16:45 [EU] itanic (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered Huan, her faithful little dog, on T:422 16:45 it doesn't really hurt, though, until you get to the altar 16:45 standing on rider, I think I can either run or try the tele zap safely 16:45 can you not ascend while levitating? 16:45 until you drop something important :-) 16:45 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:7490 16:46 you can't #offer while levitating, I think 16:46 and assuming you haven't done stupid things to your alignment you can fix it with a prayer on the high altar even if out of uncursing sources 16:46 I'd be shocked if I wasn't max alignment ais523 16:46 run, you have a clear path 16:46 so would I :-) 16:46 this mostly only comes up when helms of opposite alignment are involved 16:46 teleporting peacefuls angers them 16:46 that may cause alignment penalties 16:47 are you disint resistant? 16:47 yes 16:47 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 168 points, 897 turns, killed by a giant mimic 16:47 OK, so that black dragon is an "ally" 16:47 lucky black dragon I happened to tin 16:47 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 16:47 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 25000 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35586 16:47 -!- raisse is now known as irina 16:47 in that it is more likely to kill the enemies than to bother you at all 16:47 -!- irina is now known as raisse 16:47 so keep running? 16:47 either that, or unbag and light your oil lamp 16:48 disint resistance doesn't matter if you have reflection and don't get smited 16:48 our only reflection source is the amulet 16:48 it's nice to have in case something happens to my ref, at least 16:48 which is fairly stable, at least 16:48 I would probably be using a light source here because it's hard to plan without knowing what the monsters are 16:48 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7796 16:49 OK, looks like free path to the door 16:49 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:35663 16:49 Gotta run. I'll catch the wrap up on Sports Center later. 16:49 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 445 points, 1461 turns, killed by a bat 16:49 earth elementals are slow and don't hit that hard on Astral 16:49 [EU] anndec (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:6709 16:49 good luck Mitzutsune, we're all counting onyou 16:49 thanks! lol 16:49 zap the door 16:50 and check that @ for priest vs. playermonster 16:50 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:50 priest blocking the door 16:50 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 16:50 -!- rld has quit [Changing host] 16:50 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 16:50 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:50 try to line up priest and famine and hit both with the same wand of death, ideally 16:50 the priest will hit fairly hard but you can stand next to them for a few turns 16:50 alternative plan is to melee the priest or to be profligate with death charges 16:51 the last rider is death, who death charges don't work against, so you can use quite a few here 16:51 language, ais :-) 16:51 two priests, I can probably just tele zap 16:51 yes 16:51 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:41321 16:51 I suspect that 5 directly north of you is Famine 16:51 [US] ShivanHunter (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:41322 16:52 I saw ShivanHunter in the messages 16:52 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 388 points, 1186 turns, killed by a bugbear 16:52 player-monsters here are named after actual players 16:52 rogue to my bottom right here 16:52 I would move north-east, try to get some distance on the rogue 16:52 i'd be ne is a flash 16:53 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:8414 16:53 death zap 16:53 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:96545 16:53 player-monsters on Astral range from difficult to game-ending (but are more likely to be on the "difficult" than "game-ending" end of the range) 16:53 and yes, this is an easy death zap 16:53 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:65919 16:53 no, they range from easy to game-ending 16:53 ants count as "easy" 16:54 Noisytoot: ants are not player-monsters 16:54 I think I can facetank the two A's by moving NN 16:54 I didn't see the "player-" part 16:54 Mitzutsune: that won't get you closer to the door, though 16:54 fair enough 16:54 door is NE right? 16:54 yes 16:54 i would move NE, then possibly quaff the potion 16:55 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:17992 16:55 when you are blind is a great moment to heal, because you are doing two things with one turn 16:55 quaff or run? 16:55 id; run ne 16:55 run 16:55 keep going 16:55 it's a good opportunity, you take those on Astral 16:55 unless you are about to die 16:55 I'm not 100% sure which tile is the door but I guess I can just take this moment to keep running 16:55 hey sorry to interrupt but im going a little stir-crazy here with the new robotfindskitten branch ive been told is a thing now 16:55 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 148 points, 942 turns, killed by a sewer rat 16:55 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:8658 16:55 sup Ann? 16:56 @ann_dec: have you reached the branch? 16:56 i heard a "plaintive meow" once. i forgot which level. 16:56 no!!! 16:56 thats the whole problem! 16:56 there is a magic portal somewhere on the plaintive meow level 16:56 i cant find the damn portal for it! 16:56 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:36335 16:56 it will be on a random square inside a room 16:56 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 3 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35895 16:56 ok but i forgot which floor the meow was on 16:56 it is usually pretty high up 16:56 and ive been going up and down and up and down the dungeon 16:56 hopign to hear the meow a 2nd time 16:56 it's a random noise like vaults are @Ann 16:56 near the beginning, level 2-7 I think? 16:56 but at no point did THAT happen 16:56 level 5 or 6 i thought 16:56 generally pretty high up 16:56 ok yeah 16:56 1-7 range for sure 16:56 ive heard PLENTY of vaults 16:56 no meeow 16:56 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 2017 points, 2593 turns, killed by a wolf 16:57 thats what is driving me mad 16:57 it cannot be on level 1 16:57 Mitzutsune: OK, now is a good chance to heal 16:57 so i have no idea like 16:57 what is wrong with me 16:57 it also cannot be on the sokoban or gnomish mines branch levels 16:57 you have no dangerous monsters nearby and a clear path to the door 16:57 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class g, on T:36343 16:57 do I take one more step before tele wand? 16:57 [EU] Arasaka (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24170 16:57 I would probably take one more step first 16:57 yes 16:57 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) genocided class h, on T:36345 16:57 obviously we are zapping here 16:58 actually we can take one more here 16:58 i would 16:58 Mitzutsune: Don't die :) 16:58 not sure if I risk the extra step 16:58 working on it haha @shivanhunter 16:58 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) removed spazm's +0 unicorn horn from the swap chest, on T:18181 16:58 [EU] elenmirie (Cav Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8009 16:59 hmm 16:59 that 5 is suspicious, but a zap wo'nt even hit it 16:59 wand of temeportation (0:1) are often better to break than zap 16:59 -!- kewldewd has joined #tnnt 16:59 [EU] anndec (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:8791 16:59 @shivanhunter: Mitzutsune can work around that by zapping the unIDed wand instead 16:59 and then decide whether to break or zap later 17:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-11 17:00 UTC: Games: 26, Asc: 0, Scum: 1. 0d 13:21 gametime. (48%Hum), 19d 06:59 remaining. 17:00 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:96896 17:00 whoops meant to farlook, go me lol 17:00 OK, it's just angels 17:00 unblessed my saber but that should be okay 17:00 all priests and A 17:01 [EU] itanic (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3877 17:01 yes, the primary reason to bless it is so that if it gets hit by a malignant aura, you survive 17:01 ok sorry im going insane over it 17:01 so the blessing has done its job and it is not worth 2 turns to rebless 17:01 i know with 100% certainty that i heard the "plaintive meow" once 17:01 but now i cant hear it again 17:01 [EU] Arasaka (Arc Dwa Mal Law) removed DoktorL's uncursed bag of holding from the swap chest, on T:24396 17:01 check to make sure your unihorn is still blessed 17:01 if your offhand weapon gets cursed, you drop it 17:01 and this is driving me so insane 17:01 -!- joes1 has joined #tnnt 17:01 it is ais523 17:01 cause i dont understand whats happening!! 17:01 (it wasn't onscreen) 17:02 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1918 points, 4195 turns, killed by a paper golem, while frozen by a monster's gaze 17:02 [US] tjw (Cav Gno Mal Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:34110 17:02 Ann, the only reward is an extra kitten pet; not worth fretting over it and starving if you're on a newer run 17:02 Mitzutsune: I think the strategy here is to teleport that priest SE of you and try to sneak around that way 17:02 wow 17:02 ok 17:02 ok im gonna need to cool down regardless 17:02 but also wow ok if the reward really is that small 17:02 ok whatever 17:03 sorry lmfao 17:03 oh wow, near perfect monster movement that turn 17:03 np gamer 17:03 i get obsessed over stuff like this sometimes 17:03 run run run! 17:03 😵‍💫 17:03 go go go Mitzu :O 17:03 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 189 points, 110 turns, killed by a water moccasin 17:03 E or NE? does it matter? 17:03 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:03 I prefer NE here 17:03 up, get in front of the door, away from the @ 17:03 it makes it harder for monsters to block you off from the door 17:03 [US] karafruit (Cav Gno Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:4028 17:03 but it probably won't matter 17:04 zap the door 17:04 -!- cathartes has joined #tnnt 17:04 you won't know until you're on top of it 17:04 can melee the ants, they die quickly 17:04 or next to the high priest 17:04 won't monsters flee from you when you're in the right temple? 17:04 whoops, all insects:tm: 17:04 ants are honestly good for you in this situation, they act as a buffer from the priests 17:04 I think this is the wrong altar, using the indirect clues, but may as well go there to be sure 17:04 or doesn't that work for high altar temples? 17:04 raisse: it does work I think 17:04 grand tour, baby 17:05 * Nesta gasps 17:05 haha oh noooo 17:05 HoOA time 17:05 ah shoot, I accidentally drank my holy water instead of my blessed smoky :c 17:05 lol 17:05 I didn't step on the neutral altar though sob, I won't get the achievement 17:05 OK, so to deal with Death, none of your wands will work well – Death has low max HP so the general idea is to melee down in as few rounds as possible or to use a good physical ranged weapon 17:05 chaotic altar* 17:05 [US] [D]: Corbin (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 832 points, 1785 turns, killed by an invisible dwarf 17:05 he has a camera 17:06 Re findkitten, I especially liked the "In Soviet Russia, kitten find you. Not in nethack." message. Other than some humor and the extra kitten, nothing much to it. 17:06 I think I have a safe turn to grab the camera 17:06 and awlays rememebr you can outrun a rider 17:06 hothraxxa: only if you have somewhere to run to 17:06 heh 17:06 I won't lie, a part of me really wants to go back to the Chaotic altar to gamble on the grand tour achievement 17:06 see i use purpel rain. much less congested 17:06 not worth your game mitzu 17:07 Mitzutsune: your character is probably capable of it, but it'll take a while and raises the risk of things going wrong 17:07 nvm anyways because my clan has it 17:07 :-) 17:07 anyways I'm gonna grab my camera 17:07 do you have a spare wish? 17:07 only a wrest 17:07 only a 1:0 17:07 hmm 17:07 yeah probably not doable, was thinkong of the rubber chicken strat 17:07 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) removed DoktorL's 3 blessed diluted potions of full healing from the swap chest, on T:36964 17:07 which absolutely trivializes Astral 17:08 I did that recently thanks to a lucky c spawn 17:08 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:36478 17:08 partly eaten chickatrice corpse :) 17:08 I've never done that 17:08 I'm not sure I'd call it trivialising, it does make it easier but there's still some thought required 17:08 step into the gap the angel made 17:09 don't waste time taking photos when you have a gap 17:09 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:36500 17:09 -!- engelson has joined #tnnt 17:09 is this Mitz's first time? 17:09 this would be my second! 17:09 niice :) 17:09 my first was last year... ironically also grand tour 17:09 do you have a wand of teleport? you can clear the way westward 17:09 (although I didn't get achievement because I didn't step on them directly) 17:10 raisse: yes but charges starting to run low 17:10 break a leg wish I didn't have to bounce :-( 17:10 ah yes, I see your inventory 17:10 enjoy Nesta! 17:10 same I gtg but good luck! 17:10 dinner time very soon now, have to go too, good luck! 17:11 guess it's just me then? 17:11 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 17:12 and me until the timer goes off in 1 minute 17:12 okay I've returned 17:13 I could perhaps take this time to swing a bit? 17:13 this is a typical Astral situation 17:13 I like to swing here as long as there's nothing dangerous adjacent other than the thing I'm swinging at 17:13 it's only the priest S who I will definitely hit 17:13 bugle will reduce your attackers 17:14 the bugs will flee 17:14 hothraxxa: ah right, that works on this occasoin because the bugs to the W are trapped 17:14 priest S also fled, neat 17:14 normally I wouldn't like to scare them and risk something scarier turning up, though 17:14 the insects are good shields against tougher monsters 17:15 cathartes current problem is I'm stuck in a temple and need to get out against a crowd 17:15 so, this square is fairly safe – the square just inside the temple door usually is 17:15 and the next square is much more dangerous 17:15 yes you'll have three potential attackers 17:15 I think I would unbag 1 more potion, because of that – so that there is a backup plan 17:15 as an aside 17:16 >The soldier ant misses! "Come here often?" 17:16 if you think you have time quaff the gain levels 17:16 why?> 17:16 for the hp 17:16 I don't think it's worth it 17:16 s/>// 17:16 meh. i'd do it 17:16 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:36803 17:16 max HP on Astral doesn't matter that much, current HP is a lot more relevant 17:16 leave them for the deathmatch 17:17 Noisytoot be like "modern problems require modern solutions" 17:17 if I were very low on healing potions I might do it, but we still have 7 left 17:17 you get more current HP if you have more max HP and then you quaff a full healing 17:17 you do 17:17 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) found kitten, on T:1513 17:17 that's why it might be worth it if low on full healing 17:17 but we aren't low 17:17 done two altars already and still have 7 left 17:18 there's only three altars ais523 17:18 -!- anselmus has joined #tnnt 17:18 where's he getting the other 6? 17:18 hothraxxa: still have 7 full healing potions left 17:18 check your legs. one of them is probably longer now 17:19 I beg your pardon? lmfaooo 17:19 [US] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:11089 17:19 -!- engelson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19 -!- engelson has joined #tnnt 17:20 okay, no more shields against A 17:20 there are 1s either side of that A 17:20 this is a good moment to move forwards, as a consequence – only one dangerous monster on the three squares that can hit you 17:20 [EU] Arasaka (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:25982 17:20 did you blow out that door? 17:20 yes 17:20 Was able to trap a leprechaun in sokoban and kill it. That was satisfying. 17:21 then you're good to go 17:21 it was such a revelation to me when I realised I could blow up the doors on Astral 17:21 [US] karafruit (Cav Gno Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:5748 17:21 – and even more of a revelation when I realised wands of digging worked (previously I was using wands of lightning, which are more awkward for the purpose) 17:21 Hi 17:21 striking works too 17:21 sup Umbire, I'm at astral 17:21 I see 17:22 remember how my first ascension was a grand tour? 17:22 :) 17:22 astral plane 2: electric boogaloo 17:22 why don't you have free action? 17:22 so my first thought here is to go west, then evaluate whether teleport will help or whether we might be able to melee something and run round 17:23 wasn't able to find it tbqh 17:23 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) became Camaxtli's Envoy of Balance, on T:35747 17:23 won't lie ais523 conflict might save this crowd 17:24 this might be an OK situation for conflict, indeed 17:24 but the high priest is behind me 17:24 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 6211 points, 6468 turns, killed by an ettin mummy 17:24 I am considering going SW, but it's risky 17:24 a lot of angels would be in range of you all at once 17:24 sw then conflict 17:24 I guess it would be possible to break the teleport wand if that happened 17:25 how many teleport wands do you have? 17:25 I think SW then conflict is the best initial plan, but it might have to change based on what the monsters do 17:25 Noisytoot: one (0:1) wand, and one with unknown charge count 17:26 might have found something if not levitating 17:26 just saying 17:26 [EU] Arasaka (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:26132 17:26 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:35864 17:27 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 3310 points, 2348 turns, killed by an acidic corpse 17:27 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3901 17:28 Mitzutsune: the only other plan I can think of is to try to melee down the angels as they approach, and that seems worse 17:28 -!- engelson_ has joined #tnnt 17:28 …although it probably would work? 17:28 -!- Mitzutsune has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:28 -!- Mitzutsune19 has joined #tnnt 17:28 why are we being so timid now? 17:29 not sure why Libera says my name is taken 17:29 sorry, internet went out for a sec there 17:29 you pinged out 17:29 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1145 points, 3136 turns, killed by a small mimic 17:29 -!- Mitzutsune19 is now known as Mitzutsune 17:29 so the old name was still connected for a bit 17:29 you can /nick back to the main one 17:29 hm 17:29 different name color now 17:29 crying and sobbing 17:29 you can also /msg NickServ REGAIN it to force-disconnect it and take back your nick 17:30 name colour varies by client 17:30 Noisytoot: it disconected by itself, though, so you don't need to ghost it 17:31 is the Internet working properly now? (and are you still connected to the game?) 17:31 had to close the term 17:31 I have my bouncer configured to automatically regain my nick on connection (which would cause loops if I had a second client configured to do the same thing) 17:31 do not press random keys in an attempt to see if you're connected – alternating between ESC and i is safest 17:31 ah, I see, your disconnection meant that the watch mode froze 17:31 I'm back watching now though 17:31 okay I'm back in now 17:32 did we decide on a strat? 17:32 the best strat seems to be to try to go SW, planning to use conflict there unless the monsters give us an opportunity to do something better 17:32 this is a "fuck it we ball" household 17:32 the alternative strat is to melee the angels as they reach us to thin the crowd, but I think that's worse 17:32 I'm back watching too 17:33 I do think both would work, though 17:33 ant died but angels filled in the gap 17:33 [US] karafruit (Cav Gno Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:6439 17:33 the main issue is, where is the closest Rider? 17:33 probably that 5 by the far door 17:33 if a Rider invades while meleeing all the angels, that's a poblem 17:33 teleport 17:33 well you don't have conflict on, so not sure what else you're expecting 17:33 there are four angels lined up 17:34 things are going to keep hitting you at full strength 17:34 more ants lmfao 17:34 oh the angel killed the ant, that made some room at least 17:34 [US] Unguarded1765 (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:58454 17:34 this is thinning, at least 17:35 although we are starting to get surrounded 17:35 is that you in the doorway, or the priestess of moloch? 17:35 I would usually just zap teleportation and try to go in a straight line, but you don't have enough teleport wands for that to be viable 17:35 Also try to keep the 0:1 wand for last (it could be broken instead of zapped, depending on situations). Always away from riders and their corpses 17:35 I'm in the doorway 17:35 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 968 points, 1947 turns, killed by a sewer rat 17:35 bugle probably gets us out of the temple, at least 17:35 if you break that 0:1 wand of teleport it will clear all the squares around you 17:35 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 121 points, 435 turns, killed by a kobold 17:35 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:36285 17:35 but they'll be filled in by the things 2 squares away 17:35 ooh bugle! 17:35 I think this is a bad situation for breaking, we can get more value a little later 17:35 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:21181 17:35 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) murdered his faithful titan, on T:21181 17:36 I agree on bugle 17:36 raisse: it will but he has to go all the way to the west altar 17:36 and the other wand isn't identified, for all we know that's 0:0 17:36 I see there's a boulder. You could block off the riders with that if you wanted to. 17:36 yes 17:36 Noisytoot: it'd be a pain to get it into the right position 17:37 especially with all the ants and angels wanting to be in on the fun 17:37 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) removed stenno's uncursed magic whistle from the swap chest, on T:4222 17:37 might just have to conflict... 17:37 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered Maya, her faithful tiger, on T:607 17:37 I think we bugle here, conflict is better when the high priest can't see you 17:37 [EU] itanic (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed docpi's ghost, the former Adept, on T:7754 17:38 so if we can get out of the temple first it'll have fewer downsides 17:38 I don't think the high priest has any ranged attacks 17:38 [US] SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5211 17:38 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Hum Fem Neu), 6008 points, 7765 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 17:38 plus there's a bunch of a in the way of the high priest 17:38 also MR70 17:39 is your guardian angel still alive and tame? 17:39 conflict here might be a good option then 17:39 but it takes a while to thin 17:39 probably not Noisytoot 17:39 he had a sad feeling a while back 17:39 Noisytoot: the guardian angel is probably somewhere near the entrance, no idea if it's still alive 17:39 he hasn't tamed anything so it's gone 17:39 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) found kitten, on T:1171 17:40 or she 17:40 I'm he/him if that's what you're asking 17:40 pronouns are so confusing now 17:40 no you're a valk aren't you? 17:40 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 217 points, 540 turns, killed by a hobbit 17:40 valks can be he after polymorph or amulet of change tho 17:41 I am valk yeah 17:41 [US] Unguarded1765 (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:58964 17:41 still F valk 17:41 but I figured you were talking about *me* and not my char haha 17:41 but anyways 17:41 sup hackers 17:41 cbus 17:41 it gets confusing, either can be relevant 17:41 spectate me 17:41 hi cbus 17:41 Mitzutsune: ye thats why pronouns are confusing here 17:41 lol 17:41 am on astral in a sticky situation LMAO 17:41 dont die 17:41 ok watching 17:41 u got dis 17:41 aoei? who are you? 17:41 I have to grand tour this bitch cbus 17:41 hothraxxa: i am me 17:41 not sure about how to get out of this sandwich 17:41 hhaha 17:42 who are YOU? 17:42 we've been trying to talk Mitzutsune through Astral for the last hour and 20 minutes 17:42 i know stella and theweaver 17:42 has it actually been over an hour 17:42 SORRY ; -; 17:42 yes, I checked 17:42 hothraxxa: stella/theWeaver decided to use her oldschool nick again for a bit 17:42 we're not complaining 17:42 it's free entertainment! 17:42 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:20799 17:42 time flies when you're having fun 17:42 and we all want you to ascend 17:42 this is proof that the nethack community is wholesome 17:43 any ideas @cbus? 17:43 other gaming communities would have called them a noob or something 17:43 nabru: I find most communities are fairly wholesome at the top level 17:43 they say that if someone beats you in a game, and you want to find out whether they're good or whether they're cheating 17:43 ask them for advice 17:43 you could use opposite alignment on the chaotic 17:43 or just teleport on the way to the altar 17:43 I dont see the problem now :D 17:44 the real top players generally want skilled competition, so they'll help the weaker players improve 17:44 indeed, that makes sense 17:44 sounds smart, no fun with no competition 17:44 I mean every community has that subgroup of tryhards, even NetHack 17:44 liko in go 17:44 cbus even if I had OA helm, I need to get out of this crowd 17:44 "You need an opponent to be able to play" 17:45 -!- kewldewd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:45 Mitzutsune: this isn't an immediately dangerous crowd, at least 17:45 I'd say especially but I'm not feeling incendiary and it'd be legitimately unfair for something most folks have actually been decent about anyway 17:45 I do have a few turns to spare right this second, indeed 17:45 without knowing where your character is (since the # is selected) it doesnt look like a bad situation at all atm 17:46 if you have a wand of polymorph and ring of polymorph control, you could become an elvenking, but that might be a waste of turns 17:46 I'm in the doorway 17:46 I think the options are a) bugle, b) try to escape NW 17:46 zap tele left is probably what I would do 17:46 cbus: the cursor is on the doorway maybe your replay is out of sync 17:46 it'd give you some free extra HP and protection from being beheaded (you revert instead of dying) 17:46 it is correctly placed now 17:46 cbus: we are low on charges 17:46 that may well work, though 17:46 go left, kill through the weakest enemies 17:46 avoid standing next to @A as much as possible 17:47 is what I would do 17:47 NW there is only one A, everything else is ants 17:47 and it might line up for a good teleport zap 17:47 I think put on conflict and beat up some insects to get them out of your way. 17:47 seriously he's been on astral for 1:20? lol 17:47 teleport zapping should be saved if you get surrounded by @ and A 17:47 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:47 or something 17:47 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:37331 17:47 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:37332 17:48 but if you only have a single @A next to you dont bother zapping 17:48 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 17:48 -!- rld has quit [Changing host] 17:48 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 17:48 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v rld] by ChanServ 17:48 nethack is a game of chess and poker all at once 17:48 :D 17:48 not really poker, there is not much bluffing involved 17:48 they meant the gambling part haha 17:48 black jack then? 17:48 "just one more card" 17:48 black jack is a good comparison 17:48 better comparison, yeah 17:48 Calculated risk 17:48 the game calls my bluff when i take my reflection off for "just a second" 17:48 TRIE 17:48 TRUE* 17:48 roulette 17:49 what was the saying about not going quietly into the night 17:49 part of me is annoyed there isn't one clear option here 17:49 i'll go with contract bridge. with noisy kibitzers. 17:49 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:37441 17:49 I am wickedly indecisive as a person 17:49 in roulette, all the options are equivalent except for one, which is worse 17:49 (and the option of not playing, which is better) 17:50 ais523 I could swing NW to get some space but if I'm unlucky on turns, more A will surround me 17:50 Furey: so the reason I haven't been doing TNNT on Mondays and Thursdays is because I play in bridge tournaments on those days 17:50 [US] Delrav (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:9522 17:50 Mitzutsune: if you end up too surrounded you can break teleport – that isn't worth it until you're getting badly surrounded 17:50 oh okay you have me beat, i just played casual bridge at school 17:50 [US] [D]: hilarita (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 517 points, 1803 turns, killed by a hobbit 17:50 I haven't been doing very well recently though 17:50 if you need to break a wand of tele the wand needs to have charges 17:51 or you wont get an effect (well extremely unlikely unless you hit that "wrest" chance) 17:51 the 0:1 is the one probably to be broken 17:51 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:23224 17:51 only 1, and his identified one has that 17:51 Mitzutsune: if you are concerned about being surrounded, the other strategy is to melee down the @ and then A 17:51 i played bridge once but a troll zapped striking while i was standing on it and i died 17:51 -!- rld has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:51 (also explains why I want to keep known id on /oTele) 17:51 [EU] elenmirie (Cav Gno Fem Neu) removed DoktorL's uncursed +0 shield of reflection from the swap chest, on T:11151 17:51 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 17:51 -!- rld has quit [Changing host] 17:51 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 17:51 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v rld] by ChanServ 17:51 I mean the current situation is not of interest 17:51 hothraxxa: fortunately wands of striking are not allowed at bridge tournaments nowadays, because of that risk 17:52 it is in a almost max hp state where you have no enemies of concern close by almost 17:52 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5473 17:52 -!- engelson has quit [Quit: Quit] 17:52 * hothraxxa ^5 ais523 17:52 do you have charging scrolls to recharge the wands? 17:52 I have precisely 1 charging scroll sadly 17:53 if this wasn't a grand tour I would've been fine 17:53 we're here every night except mondays and thursdays. try the veal 17:53 lol that would be wishful thinking 17:53 actually that's a good point, teleport recharge is better than death recharge in this gamestate (but only when the wand runs out) 17:53 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Val Dwa Fem Law), 448 points, 1169 turns, killed by a giant bat, while praying 17:54 ditch the orb and lets really spice things up 17:54 pfff 17:54 orb is half physical and half magic damage... 17:54 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 359 points, 1634 turns, killed by a werejackal 17:55 anselmus: I mean, this is probably winnable without the Orb but it'd be a lot more difficult 17:55 [EU] elenmirie (Cav Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11461 17:55 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed ring of slow digestion", on T:5793 17:55 when you have the Orb, you have the backup plan of meleeing everything but player-monsters and healing occasionally 17:55 [US] hilarita (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1477 17:55 no you will be more free and better trust me 17:55 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:37783 17:55 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:37785 17:55 -!- joes1 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:56 your true potential will be unlocked 17:56 so anyways 17:56 anselmus: so this got me thinking: what's the best role for artifactless? 17:56 ranger maybe? 17:56 [US] [D]: Evendur (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 394 points, 1292 turns, burned by a tower of flame 17:57 Mitzutsune: you are not in immediate danger and have good backup plans for if you end up in immediate danger, so your next few turns are not critical 17:57 any role with twoweaponing I guess 17:57 samurai? 17:57 fair assessment 17:57 you can just twoweapon non-artifacts 17:57 I've done it plenty of times 17:57 I guess I'll NW and hope it doesn't get filled in? 17:57 ;can chameleons show up in minetown? I lost sight of my pet for a bit, had a sad feeling, and found it dead as a baby black dragon 17:57 I think the options are a) melee NW and try to cut a path b) melee SE and settle in for a long grind of killing enemies c) bugle 17:57 and I think I prefer a 17:57 their QA is useless and katanas are probably the best one-handed non-artifact weapons except maybe silver sabers 17:58 karafruit13: poly trap 17:58 karafruit13 much more likely that it stepped on a poly trap 17:58 karafruit13: it depends on your experience level and Minetown's depth 17:58 in the middle of the town? 17:58 it's not strictly impossible 17:58 shapechanger that early is much more unlikely 17:58 hmm 17:58 a poly trap in minetwon is impossible i think 17:58 $whereis karafruit 17:58 Mitzutsune: [US] karafruit : (Cav Gno Mal Neu) T:7599 The Gnomish Mines level: 7 17:58 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism by offering a jaguar corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:3126 17:58 minetown polytrap is possible if it's DL8 17:58 monsters can gen with potion of polymorph 17:59 wands too 17:59 thought they didn't throw potions of polymorph 17:59 this seems like a more amicable situation ais523 17:59 yes, this worked out great 17:59 they don't but they will drink them 17:59 true, dl8 minetown. extrememly rare though 17:59 [US] [D]: rvcx (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2391 points, 3075 turns, killed by a small mimic (and 2 other games not reported) 17:59 I'm on level 7 tho, unless it was a bones file originally on 8 17:59 we have three enemies lined up for a teleport zap, and I think we're planning on recharging teleport at this point 17:59 haven't seen any signs of bones tho 17:59 [US] [D]: Delrav (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 25797 points, 9992 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 17:59 my cat wouldn't drink the potion tho, I assume 18:00 Current Day as of 2023-11-11 18:00 UTC: Games: 454, Asc: 15, Scum: 231. 1542273 turns, 41857450 points. 20d 02:06 gametime. (14%Arc), (53%Hum), (53%Neu), (56%Fem), 19d 05:59 remaining. 18:00 it seems like the better play with how it ended up, yeah 18:00 ais523: with only 3 death charges? 18:00 cats don't have hands, can't drink potions 18:00 o.o 18:00 then how did my cat get polymorph D: 18:00 anselmus: last altar is guarded by Death 18:00 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:3428 18:01 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:7593 18:01 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:3452 18:01 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:24353 18:01 death is gonna die of old age waiting at this rate 18:01 cats are good at knocking things over and also drinking from puddles 18:01 is the @ left of the killer bee a priest or a player monster? 18:01 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 18:01 -!- rld has quit [Changing host] 18:01 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 18:01 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v rld] by ChanServ 18:01 all priests in my sight 18:02 run, there's a gap 18:02 oh I'm up here still, sorry 18:02 looks like a rider has already revived? 18:02 ah 18:02 anselmus: quite probably, but we can zap them on the way out 18:02 he has a camera 18:02 can we now hehe 18:03 hothraxxa: that's gonna be a hard sell i feel 18:03 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 12606 points, 6527 turns, killed by a black unicorn, while praying 18:03 on the riders? nah 18:03 what does using an expensive camera on the riders even do? 18:03 I've never tried it 18:03 i took selfies with all three last game 18:03 i failed to convince him to swap out to sdsm 18:03 blinds them and maybe scares them 18:04 it's too late to swap out to SDSM now 18:04 I think I would teleport west here 18:04 if adjacent, the blindness is permanent, else it's temporary 18:04 using the unIDed wand 18:04 i also got never kill a rider that game 18:04 they're slow 18:04 "never kill a rider" is the easiest "never kill" conduct, I think 18:04 karafruit13, polytrap 18:04 probably 18:05 although i also got grand tour 18:05 yeah a camera is one of those things you never even try because it just sounds dumb 18:05 so never kill all three riders 18:05 speak for yourself 18:05 I cream pied Pestilence in my last game because I didn't have a camera. 18:05 and then it's mind blown 18:05 I keep carrying along cameras and then explicitly forgetting because I usually have a death wand and don't mind a bit of max HP loss to shred death 18:05 sorry was looking away 18:05 what's the strat 18:06 is the camera vs death a terry pratchett reference? 18:06 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:06 no 18:06 Mitzutsune: I like teleport west here 18:06 -!- nurdglaw has joined #tnnt 18:06 [US] karafruit (Cav Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a winter wolf, on T:7899 18:06 it's the same vs all monsters that aren't blind, not just death 18:06 it is the fastest strategy if it works 18:06 #chat to Death with a novel 18:06 what does he say tjw? 18:06 tjw: I keep forgetting to pull that one off 18:06 i did that before i took the selfie 18:06 Mitzutsune: it's an achievement 18:07 Depends on what novel you're holding 18:07 i don't think so 18:07 Mitzutsune: OK, this is great, the crowd is thin 18:07 I think you can melee your way through 18:07 kill the fire ant and move west 18:07 might have to kill an A or @ along the way but they go down fairly quickly to that sort of weaponry 18:07 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:07 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 18:07 -!- rld has quit [Changing host] 18:07 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 18:07 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v rld] by ChanServ 18:08 yes the weapons are stellar. ++ would smite again 18:09 [US] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3929 18:09 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 701 points, 1257 turns, poisoned by a rotted monkey corpse 18:09 ah, the angels are killing the ants, good 18:09 assuming that's a priest, if it's just one priest I would melee 18:09 or even better, there's a gap 18:09 and another 18:09 zap the rider with death 18:10 yes, this is an obvious death zap on Famine 18:10 I think I can probably run away from the playerchar 18:10 so do I 18:10 your potion got blown up, so when you find a quiet time unbag another 18:11 also watch out for pestilence 18:11 I think wearing conflict would help. 18:11 who is about to come through the door 18:11 that's Pest up there 18:12 I wonder if I tele W and run past rider? 18:12 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:39003 18:12 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:12 I would melee W and wand-zap rider 18:12 definitely a better idea 18:13 still have two death zaps left and there are unlikely to be better targets 18:13 [US] jientho (Mon Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful dog, on T:1957 18:13 What W? 18:13 west 18:13 I meant west, not wraith 18:13 maybe I should say h, but then you'd think I meant dwarf 18:13 get out full healing 18:14 see now walking up to a rider isn't what you want to do 18:14 west = purple worm gas spore scorpion trapper? 18:14 [US] Dx34 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) removed spazm's blessed +4 silver dragon scale mail from the swap chest, on T:17045 18:14 one more death zap for the road, it seems 18:14 one thing I noticed from TNNT achievements is that `t` is the latest-encountered lowercase letter 18:14 it's nearly always the monster class that gives me learn the alphabet 18:15 (and LEARN THE ALPHABET doesn't happen unless you're trying for it, due to K) 18:15 hm, so it missed the A to the west 18:15 unless you're a tourist because they've got K on the quest 18:15 Mitzutsune: should be able to melee through – you can't be surrounded in a corridor 18:15 As are immune to death zaps 18:15 OIC 18:15 this is why teleport is probably the better charging choice 18:16 I would consider drinking the potion either now, or a couple of turns later 18:16 why not put on conflict? 18:16 that !oGL would raise your max hp 18:16 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) removed spazm's blessed +5 cloak of protection from the swap chest, on T:4672 18:16 Nesta: but not by very much 18:16 the !oFH also raises max HP, if you drink it when you're less than 400 below your maximum 18:16 don't need to be at full 18:17 certainly an option cathartes just haven't done it yet 18:17 yep worthy of note 18:17 only angels are intrinsically immune to death zaps (due to having a magic missile attack they have intrinsic MR) 18:17 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2009 points, 4123 turns, killed by a giant ant 18:17 Mitzutsune: i'd just like to remind you that i'm 76 and 1/3 going on 77 and i'd like to be still alive when this games ends 18:17 Other A just often have shields of reflection. Archons always have them. 18:17 Noisytoot: huh, is that the reason? I assumed they were nonliving 18:17 Nope, magic missile attack = player-style MR 18:17 you don't need to wait for an emergency to put on conflict 18:17 just trying not to splat hothraxxa haha, sorry 18:17 it's nice to see young people playing this game 18:18 conflict is likely to prevent emergencies because your enemies will generally be weaker after fighting each other 18:18 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:39372 18:18 [US] AmElm (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:39373 18:18 people just don't listen for shit here hehe 18:18 everyone just does their thing 18:19 ooh, black dragon 18:19 I would quaff the potion and let the black dragon kill the angel 18:19 i have to turn off chat whenever I'm into anything complicated. 18:19 Im off to choir now, good luck Mitzutsune! 18:19 thank you raisse! 18:19 go west NOW before they fill it in 18:19 be well raisse 18:19 [EU] itanic (Arc Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1286 18:20 I guess we have to kill the black dragon because it's in the way 18:20 death is still in the west chamber btw, so none of those 5s 18:20 you're on pesty's corpse now so you're safe to zap teleport now 18:20 I'd get away for pesty's corpse before it revives 18:20 zapping teleport is safe but may not be cost effective 18:20 doesn't stepping over him revive ? 18:20 no, needs to be a boulder not just hte player 18:21 ais523: not much is nonliving in vanilla 18:21 stepping doesn't revive, but other things to, like teleporting the course 18:21 #define weirdnonliving(ptr) (is_golem(ptr) || (ptr)->mlet == S_VORTEX) 18:21 #define nonliving(ptr) \ 18:21 (is_undead(ptr) || (ptr) == &mons[PM_MANES] || weirdnonliving(ptr)) 18:21 Noisytoot: huh, not even demons? 18:21 (other than manes for some reason) 18:21 demons and golems and undead 18:21 ah, are demons included in is_undead, then? 18:21 demons are not nonliving but are specifically excluded from being killable by death rays 18:21 aha 18:21 Yeah, special cased 18:22 ah ok 18:22 nonliving(gy.youmonst.data) || is_demon(gy.youmonst.data) 18:22 [EU] nurdglaw (Val Hum Fem Law) found kitten, on T:2760 18:22 funny bird spawned 18:23 NOW it's a party 18:23 not worth the risk 18:23 kill it and use it as a weapon if it drops a corpse 18:23 not at this point... 18:23 all of a sudden we have a lot of options, which isn't necessarily a good thing given how much this chat has been discussing them 18:23 [EU] finitelycraig (Bar Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (disenchanter), on T:25640 18:23 moving on astral while wielding a cockatrice is safe: there aren't any pits unless you make them (and you're levitating anyway) 18:23 however he is levitating 18:23 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:23 convincing him to swap weapon/trice could take another hour 18:24 anselmus don't gotta be like that 18:24 I think I would just run to the altar 18:24 Is there a reason to not put on conflict here? 18:24 the main threat around here is Death, who will probably have to be meleed because I don't think we have other options 18:24 who are we watching? not scanning thru all this backscroll 18:24 you're between third and home already, or whatever they call it in cricket 18:24 I suppose not aside from the invariable angel spawns cathartes 18:24 he's levitating. even if it drops a corpse it will take three turns to pick it up and wield it 18:24 K2: Mitzutsune 18:24 K2: Mitzutsune 18:24 Mitzutsune 18:24 ok 18:24 go past the Z and zap the door with digging 18:24 thx 18:24 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:39404 18:25 you won't get angels from putting on conflict here 18:25 oh, no? 18:25 It's only when entering? 18:25 only if you do it in presence of guardian angel 18:25 it's only when entering or if your guardian angel sees you 18:25 and your guardian angel is dead 18:25 it's almost certainly dead by now 18:25 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 585 points, 1318 turns, killed by a giant ant 18:25 guess there's no reason not to, in that scenario 18:25 it certainly dead 18:25 is 18:25 do you have hilite_pet? 18:25 i sw the sad feeling 18:25 there was no hilighted A when you were blind 18:26 I think we move into the doorway 18:26 IT IS FUCKING DEAD 18:26 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 18:26 geez 18:26 lol 18:26 [EU] [D]: itanic (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1035 points, 3186 turns, killed by a rothe 18:26 there's a gap, run 18:26 try to run around Death, no reason to fight if you don't haev to 18:26 he just wanted his little buddy to ascend with him *sniff* 18:27 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 18:27 SW, tele, run 18:27 tame some ants. i hear the demigod bar need inn-sewer-ants. 18:27 definitely SW first 18:27 then re-evaluate depending on whether death is next to you 18:27 he's not 18:27 OK, death isn't next to you, tele and run 18:28 now he is 18:28 well I somehow made it to the swap chest, though am currently a master mind flayer. Don't have anything useful to put in though :c 18:28 try camera on death 18:28 it's ranged 18:28 oh it is? 18:28 yes 18:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:28 2 18:28 got his ass 18:28 The invisible Death turns to flee. 18:28 it works! 18:28 did i not tell you this? 18:28 but seems to be stuck in with tou 18:28 * you 18:28 i thought i mentioned it 18:28 I would melee Death here – it has low max HP 18:29 and you can normally kill it before it does much to you 18:29 eff it I'm bringing a camera next time 18:29 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Death, on T:65988 18:29 OHKO, nice 18:29 Nesta: me too! 18:29 conflict goes brrr I guess 18:29 haha 18:29 Mitzutsune: no, that's from being a valk 18:29 with twoweapon 18:29 it is not guaranteed but happens fairly often 18:29 conflict helps too though 18:30 I don't get why no conflict up to this point. Why? 18:30 if death loses some hp from conflict, that just makes it easier to kill 18:30 either melee or teleport works here I think 18:30 teleport is faster, assuming we still have charges 18:30 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: sorry about my connection] 18:30 I think it only teleported one of them 18:30 but I have a shield behind me now 18:30 HalNovek: shrug some people like a challenge 18:30 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 18:30 it's been technical on every turn, no turn to do the ring before 18:30 well, more that Mitzutsune was afraid of extra angels I think. 18:31 [EU] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1128 18:31 (even though they wouldn't actually spawn) 18:31 well equipped valk fears nothing 18:31 try not to be too slow, we want to get in before death respawns 18:31 I'm not afraid to say I'm not the sharpest tool in this chat lmao 18:31 I'd zap teleport some more. 18:31 vanilla angels are not very dangerous 18:31 Nesta: even poorly equipped valk doesn't fear much 18:31 don't need to save resources for much longer 18:31 P wand is out 18:32 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 8882 points, 9364 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 18:32 Noisytoot: they're more dangerous than Astral popcorn, slightly less dangerous than the priests 18:32 I've done Astral at ridiculously bad AC often enough to have a feeling what the actually dangerous things are 18:32 [US] karafruit (Cav Gno Mal Neu) removed efot's uncursed +0 set of silver dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:8896 18:32 hmm 18:32 speed 10, 1d6 weapon physical, 1d6 weapon physical, 1d4 claw physical, 2d6 cast magic missile. That last one is entirely negated by MR but they have rustproof +3 long swords. 18:32 Thanks efot! 18:32 I think I can facetank enough turns to get the blessed charging scroll to get more tele 18:32 I put two unidentfied spellbooks in, since it was catacombs. Hopefully they were something useful. 18:32 oh you're welcome :) 18:33 anselmus: I was genuinenly curious. :) Usually I am so strong I just wear conflict from the start just to not be bothered (I don't care about guardian angel nor the others), so I don't actually know how much it helps on its own. 18:33 [EU] [D]: nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 982 points, 1648 turns, killed by a gnome 18:33 Mitzutsune: so do I – it's, what, two turns to charge and a third to use? that isn't so bad 18:33 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 20 points, 213 turns, killed by a sewer rat 18:33 I usually don't wear conflict because I want to ascend with the guardian angel 18:33 i do know some players here avoid it intentionally (cbus?) 18:33 Angel missiles can hurt like hell 18:33 I think I splash it on the ID'd one so I know how many there are 18:33 Umbire: they are entirely negated by MR 18:34 but I'm not sure how much it even matters at this point 18:34 [EU] Arasaka (Arc Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:29923 18:34 Angels do 1d6 weapon physical, 1d6 weapon physical, 1d4 claw physical, 2d6 cast magic missile 18:34 I can see the altar 18:34 my monk asc didn't use conflict mostly because I had enough tele/death zaps 18:34 Mitzutsune: it won't matter at this point 18:34 you should have MR on astral 18:34 Mitzutsune: I agree that a) it doesn't matter and b) the IDed one is better 18:34 it's the two weapon attacks that are most concerning, as Angels can have pretty good weapons 18:34 [EU] Arasaka (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:29949 18:35 remove conflict before stepping next to the high priest 18:35 was just gonna say 18:35 haha 18:35 they hit stupidly hard 18:36 he doesn't have free action either 18:36 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 197 points, 398 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 18:36 remove lev so that you can offer 18:36 Priests in general are mollywhoppers, high priests even more so 18:36 NAILED IT 18:36 hothraxxa, MR reduces para duration to 1 turn iirc 18:36 haha gj 18:36 gg 18:36 gg 18:36 only from the spell 18:36 gg 18:36 Congrats! :) 18:36 good game! 18:36 you can still get paralyzed by the potion 18:36 yes, the spell priests are known to use 18:36 is it over? 18:36 hothraxxa: congrats, you survived 18:36 i need to pee 18:36 iy is 18:36 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:40542 18:36 what did you spend last wish on, just curious? 18:36 the priests I was talking about just a sentence ago 18:37 Noisytoot: they'll learn about fa all in good time 18:37 [US] [A]: Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law), 2838438 points, 66004 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mitzutsune/tnnt/dumplog/1699023778.tnnt.html 18:37 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:40546 18:37 gg 18:37 gg 18:37 I personally try to wear free action whenever at all possible but I get it 18:37 thank you all for bearing through it with me LOL 18:37 Arseniy: 2 blessed scrolls of charging, and they really came in handy 18:37 I'm just indecisive, I definitely would've died without the help 18:37 well 18:38 not yet 18:38 i think i've been following your game since the mines Mitz :-) 18:38 maybe in a week or so 18:38 very glad to have one on the board 18:38 Mitzutsune, happens to the best of us 18:38 also: umbire, i mentioned the fa because he got nailed early on 18:38 efot makin it look easy 18:38 I see 18:39 Good chokce if you were all out of blank scrolls :) 18:39 I realised at some point that a "oLS makes for a decent =oFA substitute 18:39 if I turn autopickup for gems on will I autopickup the luckstone before the level teleporter teleports me? 18:39 no 18:39 [US] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:6753 18:39 so how many is this for you, Mitzutsune 18:39 I feel like I've definitely autopickedup the luckstone before 18:39 karafruit13: yes 18:39 karafruit13: yes, but the same will happen for loadstones 18:39 yes it's all about redundancies 18:40 Umbire 2 total. first was last year's TNNT 18:40 right 18:40 if it doesn't then it's changed after 3.3 18:40 [US] peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1748 18:40 Catacombs has... flint stone and luckstone? 18:40 it's mimic of the mines and I've already identified flint, so I know which one is luck, and I'd turn it off again immediately after. I just don't want to have to come back 18:40 oh 18:40 mimic of the mines doesn't have levelporters 18:40 sorry 18:40 catacombs 18:40 you're right 18:40 I misspoke 18:40 Yeah then there shouldn't be a loadstone to worry about unless one occurs randomly 18:41 I autopickup gems and also AUTOPICKUP_EXCEPTION=">gray stone" 18:41 right, only fear is a random loadstone on either the levport trap or on the square you land on after the levport 18:41 I feel like it shouldn't be able to autogen on the same tile 18:41 cathartes: what do you do with the gems? 18:41 my autopickup must be broken. i have to set a specific one to get gray stones 18:41 I could add a temporary autoexception since I named it luck 18:41 ais523: get points 18:41 fair enough 18:41 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 347 points, 740 turns, killed by a gnome 18:41 also, I ID all the glass. 18:41 oh wait. i know why i have to do that 18:41 then I wouldn't autopickup any other gray stones 18:41 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 1391 points, 1850 turns, killed by a giant bat 18:42 i have an exception specifically N OT to pick up gray stones 18:42 I also have AUTOPICKUP_EXCEPTION=">gray stone" 18:42 oh right, i've got hilite pile, so it can't be on a stack, it would only be if I happen to land on a loadstone 18:42 and then I type-name a luckstone on the floor with "<" if it's on a levelporter, to pick it up 18:42 (because I also have AUTOPICKUP_EXCEPTION="<<") 18:43 mitzutsune: would you like some post-game advice? (or maybe you just want some peace and quiet) 18:43 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 11 points, 124 turns, killed by a little dart 18:43 > Your knapsack cannot accommodate any more items 18:43 dangit I forgot 18:43 guess I'm coming back 18:43 the rng clearly reads irc 18:43 lol 18:44 mitzutsune, big fucking congrats 18:44 gj 18:44 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 18:44 * Nesta watches efot sail right thru the endgame 18:44 oh congrats Mitzutsune I missed you'd ascended, gg gg gg! 18:44 teleporter only put me up one floor and right near the stairs tho 18:45 I got stuck on a quasimorph level and forgot to watch the mitzu end game :P 18:45 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 2546 points, 2946 turns, killed by a dwarf 18:45 [US] karafruit (Cav Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9148 18:46 gj 18:46 [US] charlie14690 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:23728 18:46 now brb 18:46 $whereis torpedojuice 18:46 anselmus: torpedojuice is not playing. 18:46 now to hope I can get out without getting poly'd 18:46 though I guess I'd turn into silver dragon now 18:46 anselmus, sorry I am having a bit of a personal thing so I havent been playing the last week 18:46 clan board updated, enjoy all! 18:47 I try to keep some track of what squares I used before 18:47 I got a tourist parked right before minetown 18:47 there was fire ants bonefile in minetown 18:47 so I can walk my way back with minimal surprises 18:47 oh another game then 18:47 so next part of that char is soko 18:47 Umbire that would work except I came down through two trapdoors lol 18:47 memory? i remember having something like that 18:47 anselmus, but I have been playing the early access quasimorph because not right mindspace https://store.steampowered.com/app/2059170/Quasimorph/ 18:47 ah 18:47 wasn't intending to venture into the mines but kept falling so figured I'd yolo it 18:47 [US] Dx34 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:17804 18:47 sorry went afk 18:48 well gj on that, don't get poly'd if you can 18:48 still v puzzled about how my cat turned into baby black dragon tho 18:48 go for it Furey 18:48 I think the bones I got was Raisse or someone 18:48 [EU] AlbertB (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:10098 18:48 I'm sure some of it is "be more prepared before going in" lol 18:48 (or at least wear a junk cloak until you're in the clear) 18:48 karafruit13, polytrap 18:48 got it in one :) 18:48 or it killed and ate a chameleon 18:48 on floor 7??? 18:48 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:40906 18:48 cbus: doesn't early access mean unfinished? 18:48 (1) grats, i forgot to say grats first 18:48 [US] [D]: Dx34 (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 109869 points, 17824 turns, killed by an energy vortex 18:48 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:40907 18:48 anselmus, yeah it means 18:48 it got "released to early access" on 8th of oct 18:48 thanks again lol 18:48 it basicly means beta version :P 18:49 efot grand tours 18:49 wait, and it's still not free? 18:49 (2) deburden before going to planes. drop tinning kits, most wands, extra armor, teleport scrolls (they don't work). drop pick-axe after erth. 18:49 silly question that I'm sure won't work--I'm polymorph'd into a master mind flayer. If I kill myself, do I get the minesflayer achievement? :P 18:49 yeah...was trying not to kill any riders 18:49 anselmus, nope 18:49 but RNG was not with me 18:49 (3) bring more teleport wands. 18:49 many games increase the price of the game when releasing from EA -> full 18:49 though 18:49 must be a good game :) 18:49 [US] [D]: SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 5593 points, 9704 turns, killed by a soldier ant 18:49 that's enough for one game, grats on sac 18:49 anyhow, it is a doomrl-ish pixel style extraction turnbased rogue like 18:49 [US] efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:40927 18:49 so it is good fun 18:49 karafruit13 did he eat a chameleon? 18:49 Furey ais523 was fortunate enough to point out the obvious stuff to drop when I got to water, although I was late on that draw 18:50 ABSOLUTELY PROPRIETARY 18:50 [EU] [D]: spontiff (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 447 points, 4596 turns, killed by a gnome lord 18:50 part of me just wanted to get onto planes since Rodney was going on 6 revives and my /oDeath wasn't loving me for it 18:50 Nesta - I don't know, I lost sight of him for a bit, then had sad feeling, then saw baby black corpse right inside a shop 18:50 noisytoot, hah nice idea, "F - a blessed +2 helm of opposite alignment named "Copyright EvilCorp"" 18:50 [EU] [D]: Everdying (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 536 points, 1994 turns, killed by a gnome lord 18:50 cbus: you'll start a streak with 3 days left and regret 18:50 seemed like people here thought a chameleon was unlikely that shallow, but it was my first thought too 18:51 regret it* 18:51 anselmus, yeah probably 18:51 congrats Mitzutsune \o/ 18:51 No, DL 7 is about the right depth 18:51 Thanks! lol 18:51 Ate a chameleon, polymorphed, then went after a shopkeeper or something else too strong? 18:51 congrats 18:51 I intend to finish that tou and such just need to feel in the right mindset so I dont mess up 18:51 31337 turns on a polytrap and i end up with a jelly, one random poly out of sight and you get a black dragon 18:51 and enjoy the game 18:51 yeah the death was probably via shopkeep 18:51 imo 18:51 just an average 8 day total game lol 18:51 strike the last five words it absolutely was but yeah 18:52 cbus: if i *could* find another game to play i wouldn't be here! 18:52 I rotate my games 18:52 [US] [A]: efot (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 2658000 points, 40969 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/efot/tnnt/dumplog/1699617670.tnnt.html 18:52 gg 18:52 [US] mrflash818 (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:14789 18:52 gg 18:53 thanks :) 18:53 gg 18:53 i've probably played some games other than chess and nethack but i couldn't tell you which ones 18:53 gg efot! 18:53 gg 18:53 thx all 18:53 is that because you don't remember or you signed an NDA? 18:54 ohi allanb's ghost 18:54 only partly joking :-) I learned to program by hacking super star trek in nineteen seventy mumble, and I still play that. 18:54 * anselmus has brogue on his todo list 18:55 [US] karafruit (Cav Gno Mal Neu) destroyed allanb's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:9328 18:56 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 4179 points, 3971 turns, killed by a mumak 18:56 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 325 points, 1017 turns, killed by a coyote, while sleeping 18:57 -!- HalNovek has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:57 [US] [D]: jientho (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2029 points, 2425 turns, killed by a rothe, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:58 [US] [D]: Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3109 points, 2724 turns, killed by a spotted jelly 18:58 [EU] [D]: AlbertB (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 5902 points, 10762 turns, killed by a giant ant, while fainted from lack of food 18:58 [EU] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a cockatrice, on T:30522 18:59 anyways time to go actually eat something 18:59 might start a new run today 18:59 thank you all so much for the help as usual lmao 18:59 [EU] engelson (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:3226 19:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-11 19:00 UTC: Games: 27, Asc: 2, Scum: 3. 195687 turns, 5659739 points. (25%Wiz), 19d 04:59 remaining. 19:00 I think I watched more of $lastgame Mitzutsune than I've ever watched anyone else play nh 19:01 you play a real paranoid careful style and it's relaxing to watch 19:01 nesta, ifd you enjoy careful style may I suggest also watching tonehacks tariru streak game reviews ? :) 19:01 they are extremely interesting 19:02 i want to observe a pacifist and see the parts before they start making it look easy 19:02 [US] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:16523 19:02 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnLSG8_AXkI and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go0bcf1-caY 19:02 nesta, spontiff plays pacifists on eu.hdf 19:02 Congrats efot! Speaking of making it look easy!! 19:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: [BRB]] 19:02 rgats efot 19:02 i play slow enough for myself lol 19:02 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3098 19:02 minus typo 19:03 thanks :) 19:03 I've died at least 5 times this tourney because my mouse scroll wheel sends directional moves, and I have a fidget habit of moving the wheel 19:03 [US] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Shrigis' ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:8646 19:03 now literally one tap exploring every level up to soko 19:04 3 of those were attacking shpkps w/storm 19:05 * anselmus brought a cheap mouse from a store which simply wasn't fully functional 19:05 the wheel only kinda worked 19:05 but it wasn't actually broken 19:05 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 177 points, 637 turns, killed by a giant mimic 19:06 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 19:06 I tried to type-name a scroll while hallucinating and it named me instead :O 19:07 [EU] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:30755 19:07 Nesta I do end up playing quite slow, yeah 19:07 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 65 points, 388 turns, killed by a jackal 19:07 if only because I'm on the newer side! 19:08 and quite indecisive 19:08 thinking is free though :) 19:08 [EU] [D]: itanic (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 355 points, 1333 turns, killed by a brown mold 19:08 Mitzutsune: gonna make it a 2 streak? 19:08 karafruit13 if you try writing a scroll and you don't know it, when you fail it always writes "playername was here!" and vanishes 19:08 don't jinx ppl ansel :-) 19:09 Mitzu I've unfortunately had that happen far too many times :c 19:09 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) wished for "2 Blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:25214 19:09 he needs to be pushed to his limits!!one 19:09 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:25215 19:10 [US] [D]: Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1965 points, 1538 turns, killed by a leather golem 19:10 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:25216 19:10 [US] mrflash818 (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:15368 19:10 * anselmus dunks his head in bucket of ice water in front of team like pat riley 19:10 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed magic marker", on T:25217 19:12 do bags of tricks behave any differently if cursed? 19:12 if I go again I might try samurai 19:12 [EU] [D]: theWeaver (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 417 points, 915 turns, killed by a giant bat 19:12 mitzutsune, you can do it! 19:12 No, they don't 19:12 [US] haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a dwarf), on T:2875 19:12 dont start dual wielding straight away though 19:12 thanks Umbire! 19:13 [US] [D]: SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 234 points, 700 turns, killed by a hobbit 19:13 when's a good point to start training TW cbus? 19:13 onc you dont need ac from current shield and can hit 19:14 when you have two weapons, for one 19:14 >me seeing that getting nibbled by a BoT has a special death message 19:14 Might fuck around just to try for that lol 19:14 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) destroyed peterg's ghost, the former Digger, on T:4436 19:14 That only happens when you loot it, and if you're not too weak that's a decent way to formally ID one 19:14 uh oh 19:14 I usually train 2weapon after I boost my luck 19:15 minestown captain got angy at me 19:15 Mitzutsune: feel free to go for unique deaths if you want to – it's a nice way to pass the time when you don't want to do serious games 19:15 karafruit13, what did you do 19:15 I have a couple of implausible (but easy) deaths on the clan deaths list already 19:15 karafruit13 did you do something that removed a fountain? 19:15 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 270 points, 776 turns, killed by a fox 19:15 they always get angry when a fountain disappears, even if no one saw 19:15 I attacked a peacful monkey 19:15 I knew the fountain stuff was bad 19:15 Oh yep, attacking peacefuls angers other peacefuls 19:15 [US] [D]: haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1450 points, 3632 turns, killed by a dart 19:16 forgot attacking peaceful was bad 19:16 [EU] [D]: engelson (Val Hum Fem Law), 2164 points, 4110 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 19:16 [EU] [D]: itanic (Arc Hum Fem Law), 1062 points, 1350 turns, killed by a gnome king 19:16 if I lock him in the temple with me maybe he can't tell the other guards 19:16 [US] beefcircuits (Tou Hum Mal Neu) removed AmElm's uncursed +0 set of blue dragon scales from the swap chest, on T:10008 19:16 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed ring of levitation", on T:25297 19:17 [EU] [D]: lrrr (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 402 points, 3942 turns, killed by a giant mimic 19:17 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Hum Fem Neu), 207 points, 372 turns, killed by a hobbit, while reading a book 19:17 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed amulet of life saving", on T:25335 19:18 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:26737 19:18 They'll just kill you instead lol 19:18 [US] Mitzutsune (Kni Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful pony, on T:27 19:18 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:26741 19:18 Guards alert each other via whistle so 19:18 was trying for the pony to kill me, turns out I killed it via repeatedly kicking 19:19 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Quetzalcoatl, on T:18677 19:19 he didn't blow a whistle I don't think. I killed him but others still angry. oh well. 19:19 now to decide if the murder penalties are worth it 19:19 [US] SkydiveMike (Pri Elf Mal Cha) found kitten, on T:852 19:20 [US] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) has entered the Arena, on T:42269 19:20 oh, did it not count that game? 19:20 interesting 19:20 [US] [D]: Shrigis (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 2245 points, 3432 turns, killed by a killer bee 19:21 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:26904 19:21 oh well, got "minion of a deity" death on the board 19:21 -!- engelson_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:22 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 180 points, 408 turns, killed by a dwarf 19:22 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 912 points, 3825 turns, killed by a rothe 19:22 [US] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) destroyed allanb's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:9364 19:23 100-turn games aren't reported 19:23 sub-100* 19:23 it seems they still count for unique deaths, at least 19:24 ais523: what were you going for there 19:24 [EU] DoktorL (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed rvcx's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:5182 19:25 anselmus: doing my normal strategy but without any grinding, to see what happened 19:25 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Pri Hum Mal Law) averted death (killed by a minotaur), on T:48628 19:25 like, taking stairs as soon as possible and not trying to gain exp 19:25 I didn't expect it to work but wantd to see what went wrong 19:25 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Shrigis' ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:5609 19:25 but why was it hostile 19:26 I attacked it 19:26 for the pickaxe 19:26 are encounters of bones levels not reported? 19:26 ah 19:26 it usually reports when you kill the ghost @Ann 19:26 @ann_dec: no, but I think killing a ghost might be 19:26 ah. 19:26 ok 19:26 let me do that then 19:26 [EU] anndec (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Athor's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:11725 19:27 ah, there we go. 19:27 ...what role is Initiate again? monk? 19:27 monk yeah 19:28 RIP the conduct btw lol ais523 19:28 [US] Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3385 19:29 I was planning to break that one anyway, later on 19:29 interesting that you keep the warning on 19:29 the warning's just there to stop people trolling other people in illit games 19:29 Hi @Ann_dec 19:29 hi 19:29 ok so i got magictrapped oop 19:29 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:30 [EU] [D]: blankman (Val Dwa Fem Law), 488 points, 2188 turns, killed by a giant bat 19:32 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1043 points, 1439 turns, killed by a werewolf 19:32 ok so the chance of a successful altar conversion is (XL+2)/(XL+8) right 19:32 [US] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) cowardly fled from the Arena, on T:42492 19:32 K2/qt: feature suggestion: when someone flees the arena, say who they were fighting against 19:32 ok yeah 19:32 which at XL9 comes out as 11/17 19:32 that's a good idea ais523 19:33 very good idea 19:33 should be easy right? 19:33 hmm 19:33 also idk if "cowardly" is an adverb the way it's used there 19:33 doesn't sound right 19:33 isn't it an adjective 19:33 it can be an adverb 19:33 "to flee like a coward" sort of deal 19:34 although google labels it as "archaic" usage 19:34 qt: yes, but "cowardlyly" doesn't really work, so both are just "cowardly" 19:34 I think "fled cowering" sounds better 19:34 [US] [D]: Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2477 points, 4237 turns, killed by a soldier ant 19:34 common usage would make "cowardly" an adjective yeah 19:34 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:27443 19:34 [US] Bean (Arc Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27444 19:34 my dictionary suggests that "cowardlily" is actually a real word, but using just "cowardly" as the adverb is more common 19:34 "cowardlily", is archaic, unknown, sounds good! from the folks who brought you "lapidifying" 19:34 "player fled from like a coward"? 19:35 just change the wording entirely 19:35 "fled in cowardice" 19:35 "cowardlily" sounds awkward 19:35 yeah I think "fled cowering", "fled in cowardice" or "fled like a coward" both sound better than "cowardly fled" 19:35 s/both/all 19:35 player fled in cowardice from also works 19:35 Fled in a cowardly manner. But too wordy. 19:35 [EU] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:31758 19:35 archaic, rarely used, and awkward! these are good things for nethack. 19:35 fled in a manner wanting courage which I have no words to describe more concisely 19:36 [US] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Dictyostelium's ghost, the former Aborigine, on T:9788 19:36 "cravenly" oh all right 19:36 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:35712 19:36 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 19:36 oh cravenly is a good one lol 19:36 [US] Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:2781 19:36 anyways, hopefully it's simple enough to hook into the logic for who got picked to fight to just copy the name 19:37 brave brave sir robin... 19:37 [US] [D]: Athor (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5767 points, 3283 turns, killed by a wolf 19:37 Or just coin your own word: cowardicely 19:37 that's even worse 19:37 K2: …cowardlily ran away 19:37 two pairs of random-appearance boots, neither of which were cursed and neither of which ID'd on wear. 19:37 what could they be 19:37 Mitzutsune: I'll have to look, I think at that point the only place the name is saved is in the name of the monster itself 19:37 frighteneded 19:37 i'm a valk if it matters so ig elven boots are not out of the pic 19:37 Ann: kicking and water walking? 19:37 have you tried #jump with them on @ann_dec? 19:37 [EU] theWeaver (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Poseidon, on T:2082 19:37 oh jump huh 19:37 lemme 19:37 or elven or jumping yeah 19:37 most boots don't ID when worn tbh 19:38 ok the current ones arent jumping 19:38 jumping with them on is a easy way to tell, if you can't do it 19:38 there are a lot of possibilities 19:38 could still be waterwalkers but im not testing that 19:38 as you shouldn't 19:38 no harm in keeping them if you don't have better boots 19:38 kicking, water walking, elven, fumble generated uncursed (you can test that by running into a door and seeing if you slam into it or stop) 19:38 https://youtu.be/BZwuTo7zKM8?si=C-fBSfAZ1k-FEd4y&t=62 19:38 assuming your dex is normally high enough to avoid slamming into it 19:38 I think easy tests + price-ID is generally unambiguous 19:39 for boots 19:39 Which as a Valk it sohuld be 19:39 should* 19:40 [US] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) removed ShivanHunter's wand of polymorph (0:4) from the swap chest, on T:10288 19:40 ok i identified the jumpers! 19:41 [EU] [D]: theWeaver (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 4674 points, 2321 turns, killed by a plains centaur 19:42 [US] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:10384 19:43 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1883 points, 4768 turns, killed by a paper golem, while fainted from lack of food 19:43 [EU] nurdglaw (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:4932 19:44 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:36170 19:44 [EU] fragmites (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:36172 19:44 [US] tsingi (Pri Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful large cat, on T:24435 19:45 [US] [D]: Qwesti (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 7 points, 107 turns, killed by a newt 19:46 [EU] itanic (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "", on T:311 19:46 [US] hilarita (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) ate for the first time - shrieker corpse, on T:3583 19:46 [EU] DoktorL (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:6732 19:46 [US] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10764 19:47 [EU] Everdying (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:2994 19:48 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Dwa Fem Law), 165 points, 659 turns, killed by a jackal 19:48 [EU] [Q]: theWeaver (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1126 points, 1400 turns, quit 19:49 * Nesta never learns 19:49 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 924 points, 3589 turns, killed by a giant rat 19:49 oh well, I think I know what stupid ascension trick to try for this game, if I get that far 19:50 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Hum Fem Law), 133 points, 902 turns, killed by a giant mimic 19:50 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:104036 19:50 [US] hilarita (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:5248 19:51 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2997 19:51 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:104045 19:52 ha gop again 19:53 [EU] elenmirie (Cav Gno Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed Platinum Yendorian Express Card", on T:12484 19:53 [tnnt] entrez pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnnt/compare/566731d83eac...96483e42acc5 19:53 [tnnt] entrez 33a3c08 - Silence -Wc99-extensions warning 19:53 [tnnt] entrez 96483e4 - Livelog Arena opponent name if you flee 19:53 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:8750 19:54 aoei, you on one of your hdf alts again o; 19:54 -!- MiaBF has joined #tnnt 19:54 [EU] itanic (Val Hum Fem Law) found kitten, on T:1234 19:54 idk what ur talkin about babe 19:54 i aint no weaver 19:54 <.< 19:55 $help 19:55 Mitzutsune: https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnntbot/blob/master/botuse.txt 19:55 yay it's aoei 19:55 $score 19:55 Mitzutsune: Can't find player Mitzutsune on the scoreboard. 19:55 pensive 19:55 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 1495 points, 2399 turns, killed by a coyote 19:55 the almost asdf on dvorak :P 19:55 yay anselmus 19:55 aoeu 19:55 $score 19:55 Nesta: Can't find player Nesta on the scoreboard. 19:55 i should learn dvorak 19:55 I use it! 19:55 $asc 19:55 Nesta: [US] Nesta has ascended 1 times in 73 games (1.37%): 1xRan, 1xElf, 1xCha, 1xMal. | [EU] No ascensions for Nesta. | [AU] No ascensions for Nesta. 19:56 i should also pray to the gods and then retire for sleepies 19:56 [EU] Arasaka (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:31642 19:57 I have to go now so hopefully that livelog commit works lol 19:57 see you all later 19:57 Hi, I am currently wearing some mail, a cloak and a ring. T does not give any feedback. It just takes off the cloak and then the mail. It seems as if I can't take off the ring without taking off cloak and armor first. Is this a bug or a feature? Or am I doing something wrong? 19:57 MiaBF: the proper command to remove a ring or amulet or accessory is 'R' even though you can select them with 'T' 19:57 [EU] itanic (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:1624 19:57 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42190 19:57 use R to take off ring 19:57 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:42192 19:58 [US] Qwesti (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:576 19:58 there's an option you can select to still prompt you even if there's only 1 suggested item to take off 19:58 i can't remember what its called 19:58 anyway be back later 19:58 OPTIONS=paranoid_confirmation:remove I think 19:58 Remove require selection from inventory for R and T commands even when wearing just one applicable item 19:58 and cathartes was correct it is for paranoid_confirmation 19:58 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Options#paranoid_confirmation 19:59 @qt: thanks, I'll try that. 19:59 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 550 points, 477 turns, killed by a rabid rat 19:59 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-11 20:00 UTC: Games: 42, Asc: 0, Scum: 13. 0d 08:31 gametime. (31%Arc), 19d 03:59 remaining. 20:00 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:42230 20:02 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 451 points, 1079 turns, killed by a gnome lord (and 6 other games not reported) 20:03 The water moccasin is blown apart by flying debris. 20:03 sushi! 20:04 lol 20:04 [US] Smithgift (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:3124 20:05 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3550 20:05 [EU] DoktorL (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:9436 20:06 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 81 points, 173 turns, killed by a falling rock 20:06 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:42417 20:06 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:42419 20:06 [EU] DoktorL (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9685 20:07 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of free action named Smoke 'em if You Got 'em", on T:51497 20:07 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:3542 20:07 lol turns out I had one already 20:07 sod's law 20:07 [EU] DoktorL (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 holy charging", on T:9709 20:07 Eh it was a smoky wish as the joke indicated 20:07 lol second game with early WoW 20:07 Had to pick something and hadn't taken inventory in a hot minue 20:07 minute* 20:07 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 20:08 [US] haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a circular amulet on an altar, on T:4906 20:08 there's very little I realistically need at this point minus some geno scrolls if that 20:09 [EU] [D]: ais523 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6934 points, 3074 turns, killed by a vampire 20:11 could also use some HP but I figure I'll get that from smoky wish hunting some more 20:11 [US] Smithgift (Val Hum Fem Law) found kitten, on T:4026 20:11 if you're locked in a shop, you can't break down the door to get out right? 20:12  well you *could* but it probably wouldn't end well... 20:12 well i mean ive had chars that eat shpkps but this is a xp:1/0 wiz 20:12 "Why did you get yourself into that situation, Nesta?" 20:13 digging down without merch is ok tho 20:14 ...deciding whether to also take the merch 20:14 these cursed teleport scrolls from karafruit are amazing 20:14 once again, dropped me one square from my altar when i levelported back to my workshop / stash. 20:14 <3 20:15 [EU] itanic (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 grey dragon scale mail", on T:4048 20:16 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:51548 20:16 Furey: in one of my games I managed to hit a levport trap and uncontrolled levport directly onto my stash – hitting exactly both vertically and horizontally 20:16 and ended up autopicking up most of it as a consequence :-D 20:16 2 rounds of +5 Frost Brand + +4 saber 20:16 that's 1/8 as common as "1 square away" 20:17 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 20:17 latest commits are live 20:18 [US] [D]: Nesta (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 353 points, 160 turns, killed by a kitten 20:18 can someone tell me how Mitzutsune fared on astral? 20:18 ais523: do you not put your stash in a box? 20:18 raisse they ascended 20:18 yay! 20:18 \o/ 20:18 Noisytoot: no 20:18 it was intense from what I can gather from the chat here 20:18 a very grueling very technical asc 20:18 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Hum Fem Law), 7824 points, 4683 turns, killed by a crocodile, while frozen by a monster's gaze 20:18 generally I just drop items next to the stairs to stash 20:18 how do you protect it from monsters? 20:18 by not spending much time on the level 20:18 yes I was there almost until the end but had to go to choir 20:19 or occasionally killing them when they steal it 20:19 the nobox conduct 20:19 wooo sokoban had the right thing for me! 20:19 i had to go feed my leeches and made it back just in time 20:19 he's gonna learn that /death can miss but otherwise played at unforseen levels of caution 20:19 I used to stash underneath a Sokoban boulder, but decided that that's overkill 20:19 [US] karafruit (Cav Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12709 20:20 I use the devteam bathroom for stash in tnnt 20:20 and nowadays I mostly stash only in the early game, if I get a BoH it's enough to carry all the items in the dungeon I care about 20:20 next to stairs in sokoban is good enough 20:20 or yes, soko1 20:20 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) murdered his faithful housecat, on T:9504 20:20 ?oSM at the bottom of a pit, stuff in a locked chest on top of that, boulder filling the pit, ?oSM on the square, and a boulder on top of that 20:21 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 8735 points, 9520 turns, killed by a wolf 20:21 I pick up all wands/potions/scrolls/spellbooks and put them in boxes 20:21 with you levitating above that :-) 20:21 chest would erode underground iirc 20:21 blind b comes along and eats the lot 20:22 gel cubes respect scare monster currently iirc 20:22 Any container + scare monster (because of gelcubes) is enough in 3.6. 3.7 needs a locked container + scare monster + a boulder 20:22 does scare monster work when it's just objects on it and not you? 20:23 * anselmus only keeps heavies in his stash 20:23 I thought that was nerfed after 3.4 20:23 [US] GrmlyFndsh (Pri Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class Z), on T:50651 20:23 E under objects was nerfed for 3.6 20:23 any non-container stash has the risk of a monster zapping striking and breaking all the potions 20:23 important square like the Castle chest are protected by E + scare monster, I think the E is just a relic from 3.4, but the scare monster might actually work 20:23 scare monster should still work agaist things that care about it 20:24 isn't boulder enough for gel cubes? 20:24 not if a giant comes by first 20:24 E might buy the player a turn if they dust the scroll when they step on the square 20:24 best, I think, is to leave the level fast 20:25 don't autopickup scrolls of scare monster 20:25 ok yeah that would be pretty unlucky 20:25 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:7492 20:25 all M2_ROCKTHROW respect scare monster 20:25 in 3.7 you need boulder + scare monster 20:25 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7640 20:25 the thing about unlucky things that never happen is sometimes they do 20:25 or just hope for the best like I do :D 20:25 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 9411 points, 7643 turns, killed by a gnome king 20:26 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Arc Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:27013 20:27 [US] [D]: strathmeyer (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2410 points, 4165 turns, killed by a giant ant 20:29 [US] tjw (Cav Gno Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:39277 20:30 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Hum Fem Law), 647 points, 507 turns, killed by a small mimic 20:31 [US] [D]: queuebert (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3851 points, 3361 turns, killed by an arrow 20:33 [US] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:13056 20:34 oh you can randomly step on portal to deathmatch? 20:34 [EU] blankman (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a long sword named Vorpal Blade on an altar, on T:3794 20:34 [US] hilarita (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:8207 20:34 maybe i should give it a try 20:34 [EU] Everdying (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "fff", on T:4226 20:35 [EU] [D]: itanic (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 340 points, 658 turns, killed by a dwarf 20:36 anselmus: hit chance is really important there, because you're often against a character who had ridiculous AC 20:36 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1282 points, 3532 turns, poisoned by a rotted glob of gray ooze 20:37 yeah don't think i'm ready yet 20:37 my one attempt at deathmatch, I did just before Rodney – I won but it took ages, and I was against a comparatively weak opponent (wizard so no good weapon attacks) 20:37 still xl 12 20:37 I think I was hitting only on a natural 1 20:37 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) genocided class v, on T:26948 20:38 (NetHack uses d20 rolls for accuracy, like D&D, except lower is better and a natural 1 always hits) 20:38 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 3358 points, 3082 turns, killed by an ape 20:38 so i'm in the washroom in the devteam office, dallying with an incubus, and i get these messages: 20:38 stethoscope is almost a must 20:38 The invisible Mike Stephenson moves the succubus out of his way! The invisible Mike Stephenson moves the succubus out of his way! 20:38 lol dupe helm of brilliance 20:38 If Mike Stephenson comes through that door I am noping out with a cursed tele 20:39  guaranteed to put you near your stash, or your money back! 20:40 There's crowd of monsters along with Mike Stephenson, waiting to use the washroom, I suppose. 20:40 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:41 yeah don't hog the only washroom 20:41 [US] jmcunx (Mon Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:9 20:41 I did my business, got my levels, paid her a good 20k+ and left man. It's about efficiency. 20:41 during beta testing, i figured out that devteam members do not open doors 20:41 $lastasc bouquet 20:41 Umbire: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/tnnt/dumplog/1699500654.tnnt.html 20:42 however the 'v' command says the build date is very recent 20:43 The invisible Mike Stephenson moves the xan out of his way! 20:43 He's gotta go NOW! 20:43 The Really Cool Shirt acts as a luckstone, right? 20:43 Yes. 20:43 Maybe mine was cursed for a while? 20:43 [EU] [D]: itanic (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 947 points, 1892 turns, killed by a rothe 20:44 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 1277 points, 4045 turns, killed by a pony 20:44 is mike stephenson hostile? 20:44 Just as well, I bagged my luckstone but decided against taking it out again 20:45 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) genocided green slime, on T:53764 20:45 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:27144 20:45 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:27147 20:45 [EU] Everdying (Hea Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a zruty, on T:4521 20:46 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 786 points, 1804 turns, killed by a wererat 20:47 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:51854 20:47 Mike is a righteous dude 20:47 Minimal zaps from both wands 20:47 Go K2! 20:48 kindy chatty 20:48 a human or elf (peaceful invisible DevTeam member called Mike Stephenson) [seen: telepathy] 20:49 lol invisible 20:50 [EU] [D]: itanic (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1229 points, 1882 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 20:50 [US] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) found kitten, on T:14683 20:51 well of course invisible 20:51 okay a xorn came in, shapeshifted a few times, shapeshifted to titan, and summoned a crowd 20:51 all the cool dev team members are invisible 20:51 it's the thing to be 20:51 wow i guess they must all be visible then 20:51 oi 20:51 gottem 20:51 oh and party at furey's place 20:52 [US] hilarita (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a fire ant), on T:10088 20:52 ais523: I see you right now and I haven't been doing any funny business like sitting on thrones, drinking from fountains, or getting crowned 20:52 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Hum Fem Law), 245 points, 647 turns, killed by a dwarf 20:53 Wuh oh, demilich drunk gain level 20:53 This is a very educational experience. 20:54 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Hum Fem Law), 98 points, 256 turns, killed by a grid bug 20:54 substance abuse is never pretty 20:54 thank you purple w 20:54 . o O (I will drink to that) 20:54 1Demo: what about now? 20:54 [EU] Everdying (Hea Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:5208 20:54 fire giant smashed down a door, and i didn't bring any locking magic 20:55 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:20582 20:55 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 1428 points, 1027 turns, killed by a magic missile 20:55 oh, I guess the ping may change the color, but that shows up in black on black for me 20:56 [EU] [D]: itanic (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 157 points, 468 turns, killed by a jackal 20:56 is what I see https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/639626937366478859/1173003297234366614/image.png?ex=65625f73&is=654fea73&hm=c3015f245f27bb937520b7f54a9877cd3262fef05141291f3e6157072788b0de& 20:56 [EU] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Neu) genocided master mind flayer, on T:59100 20:57 today i did find a ReDoS bug in a chat application where a malicious message can hang the client of anyone that tries to render it 20:58 it's dim black on black 20:59 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:34706 21:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-11 21:00 UTC: Games: 22, Asc: 0, Scum: 1. 53659 turns, 51844 points. (48%Wiz), 19d 02:59 remaining. 21:00 feeding a dog to a dog should yield a "Dog eat dog world" achievement 21:02 sick of elves not carrying helms 21:02 [EU] [D]: itanic (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 753 points, 3243 turns, killed by a wererat 21:02 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:35146 21:03 so should polymorphing into a dog and eating a dog 21:03 [EU] [D]: itanic (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 72 points, 158 turns, killed by a contaminated potion 21:04 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 984 points, 4184 turns, poisoned by a snake 21:04 argh poison instadeath 21:04 that's a thing I hate about 3.6 21:04 [EU] [D]: itanic (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 118 points, 204 turns, killed by a kobold 21:04 hrmpf, big room. never liked it, and so easy to get surrounded 21:09 i'm gonna just pretend like i setup the angry shpkp+kops on dl2 on purpose 21:09 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Law) received Excalibur, on T:20969 21:10 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:35643 21:11 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:52318 21:11 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1870 points, 1932 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 21:11 [EU] [D]: Dictyostelium (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 704 points, 1790 turns, killed by an orc zombie 21:12 [US] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) received Excalibur, on T:16189 21:12 [EU] [D]: itanic (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 718 points, 3104 turns, killed by a housecat 21:13 [US] oh6 (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Oracle, on T:16211 21:13 [EU] [D]: itanic (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, 175 turns, killed by a jackal 21:14 [EU] [D]: itanic (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 132 points, 122 turns, killed by a gnome 21:14 [EU] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Dispater, on T:59294 21:14 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Hum Fem Law), 20 points, 151 turns, killed by an incubus 21:14 [EU] DoktorL (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy amulet of reflection", on T:9709 21:16 [EU] tromix (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:59368 21:16 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:16 [EU] itanic (Val Hum Fem Law) murdered Huan, her faithful little dog, on T:566 21:17 lol monster got a djinn from extra healing 21:17 [EU] DoktorL (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 cursed genocide", on T:9838 21:18 is it possible mb was randomly generated in my game 21:19 just not getting it 21:22 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 1526 points, 3411 turns, poisoned by an orcish arrow 21:22 but then i'm not getting ANY sacs whatsoever 21:22 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:23 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 203 points, 435 turns, killed by a small mimic 21:24 [EU] blankman (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed figurine of an archon", on T:4500 21:25 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 21:25 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 61 points, 504 turns, killed by a fox 21:27 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:52663 21:27 this one game has made up for all the 1, 2 sac mb's i've gotten in my life 21:27 wand unspent, steed unharmed 21:27 [EU] itanic (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:3051 21:27 and a nice neat path that leads to the rest of the town 21:28 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:36369 21:28 first WoD I've seen all game btw 21:28 [EU] [D]: Everdying (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 7558 points, 6514 turns, killed by a gargoyle 21:29 Does the deathmatch NPC have the same alignment as the ascended player? 21:31 i would guess not always, probably just uses the PM_VALKYRIE or whatever role player monster permonst's alignment. its not like they have artis though, so I wonder why you ask? 21:32 Trying to figure out how hard my Sceptre of Might will hit them 21:32 ah 21:32 perhaps tjw has an artifact that is alignment sensitive 21:32 Lawful 21:32 $whereis tjw 21:32 Umbire: tjw is not playing. 21:32 always lawful? 21:32 Yes, far as player monsters are concerned 21:32 and your char's alignment? 21:33 Neutral 21:33 Should work then 21:33 [US] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:12904 21:33 umbire, are you saying the NPC is always lawful? 21:33 [US] crunchbubba (Ran Gno Mal Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:55438 21:34 From my limited understanding of the code anyway, it's likely I'm wrong about this 21:34 [US] [D]: Dx34 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 241 points, 1015 turns, killed by a small mimic 21:35 I see no spellbooks in the devteam offices 21:36 [EU] [D]: itanic (Val Hum Fem Law), 6122 points, 4962 turns, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 21:36 It's all on Kindle these days 21:36 some offices have them, some don't 21:36 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 187 points, 503 turns, killed by a hobbit (and one other game not reported) 21:37 they stripped the dev team level 21:37 i had nothing 21:37 assuming it uses the base permonst alignments with no special handling, they for the following monsters are: arc/law,bar/neu,cav/law,hea/law,kni/law,mon/neu,pri/neu,ran/cha,rog/cha,sam/law,tou/neu,val/cha(weird),wiz/neu 21:37 scroll of identify in the chest 21:38 there also aren't the peaceful cats, dogs and woodchuck there were last year 21:38 i've seen a troll and a woodchuck and i think a dog 21:38 i don't attack anything on this level until it attacks me first 21:38 I see none of the stuff except the rubber hose and the things behind lava 21:39 i had carl last game. not even mr shouty in this one 21:39 Demo, ah right 21:39 oh right the kitchen was stocked 21:39 [US] peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Dictyostelium's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:1056 21:39 tjw, see above - valks are chaotic because the role used to be ages ago 21:39 I think everything is peaceful when you first come in, but randomly generated monsters may be hostile 21:39 Pre-religion I think? 21:39 [US] karafruit (Cav Gno Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:16272 21:39 Interesting, thanks for the info 21:40 they're lawful/neutral now but playermon valks and quest friendlies are still chaotic 21:40 fixed in 3.7 ofc 21:40 I teleported the chest out previous visit, and it is also now gone 21:40 can I safely sit on Mike's throne? 21:40 yes 21:40 yes devteam members do not react to throne sitting 21:40 well 21:40 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:36968 21:41 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 518 points, 1122 turns, killed by a little dog 21:41 you might get an audience 21:41 or just feel repugnant 21:41 I got 4 identifies first try 21:42 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Arc Gno Fem Neu) removed kh's uncursed ring of teleport control from the swap chest, on T:28614 21:43 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 47 points, 359 turns, killed by a sewer rat (and one other game not reported) 21:43 hm. hp 86 ac -5 21:43 [EU] Dictyostelium (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed itanic's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:926 21:44 i don't know what the grand master is thinking. no way am i ready for this 21:44 [EU] Arasaka (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:33910 21:44 [EU] Arasaka (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33912 21:45 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 994 points, 3604 turns, killed by an orcish arrow 21:46 [EU] DoktorL (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed jmcunx's ghost, the former Novice, on T:12920 21:46 [US] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:18620 21:46 *facepalm* 21:47 well i guess i'm ready now 21:47 [US] SkippitoFriskito (Bar Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant ant, on T:4144 21:47 Thou art arrogant, mortal! 21:47 * hothraxxa pees on the altar of ashpool 21:48 [EU] Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:46887 21:48 i was looking for an elven broadsword to prevent this but no luck 21:48 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 257 points, 756 turns, killed by a coyote 21:48 holy crap I have the best luck with water demons omg 21:48 [EU] Dictyostelium (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Dictyostelium's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1019 21:48 [EU] Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:46891 21:48 is it crowley? 21:49 crap, I dunno what a good wish for is for my char. Is there a neutral artifact that gives MR? 21:49 pyec 21:49 * ashpool sends hothraxxa a pee elemental 21:49 eye of the aethiopica (also gives ESP and branchport) 21:50 eye has to be worn though, and I have a nice cursed amulet of magical breathing rn. PYEC looks slightly better I think? 21:50 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) destroyed blankman's ghost, the former Stripling, on T:9195 21:50 [US] bleeko (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:25897 21:51 [US] bleeko (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25898 21:51 forgot to ask what you are playing 21:51 -!- arahael has joined #tnnt 21:51 caveman, have silver dragon scales from swap chest (gonna turn them into scale mail soonish, I have a scroll, just working on getting holy water and got a wish while diluting potions) 21:52 and mjollnir was my sac gift 21:52 92hp, blast is 4d10 right? so should be fine there 21:53 PYEC is better, it also gives ESP and its invoke is 10x better than EotA, even as a non-tourist 21:53 [US] Snuff (Arc Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11268 21:53 yeah 4d10 21:53 It’s halved with MR 21:53 yeah that's what I'm thinking, and caveman don't care about faster pw regen 21:53 i'd get the pyec 21:53 afaik mjollnir is the only arti, let's hope I'm not wrong 21:54 [EU] Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:47177 21:54 [US] karafruit (Cav Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:16433 21:55 [EU] [D]: Everdying (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 445 points, 1218 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 21:55 u got it! 21:55 I did got it! 21:56 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1335 21:56 use it wisely in my name 21:56 ooh, second water demon, this one not giving me a wish tho 21:56 don't forget to read it 21:56 [US] bleeko (Tou Hum Fem Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:26305 21:57 lol, water demon got hoisted with its own petard 21:58 [EU] Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:47303 21:58 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:45262 21:58 [EU] Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:47305 21:58 Heh, I haven't gotten a single fountain or throne wish this TNNT 21:58 i had 2 back to back from the same throne 21:58 that was my third fountain wish and I've gotten two throne wishes lol. Not to rub it in or anything. :P 21:58 i got clairvoyance once other than that nada 21:58 lol my cat was playing kittenfindskitten 21:59 That's where they're all going! 21:59 raisse, killed by an IRL cat 21:59 my orc wiz got a wish from Mike Stephenson's throne! 21:59 i almost got killed by mike stephensons throne 22:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-11 22:00 UTC: Games: 24, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 0d 06:16 gametime. (67%Hum), 19d 01:59 remaining. 22:00 cause i yy moved into a peaceful hobgoblin summoned by it and ole magic mike saw 22:00 what happens if you fight the dev team? they corrupt your game? 22:00 [EU] AlbertB (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:11116 22:00 and got ANGRY 22:00 if you kill one, the game ends 22:00 [US] SkippitoFriskito (Bar Orc Mal Cha) removed Mitzutsune's wand of digging (0:4) from the swap chest, on T:4920 22:00 they are very tough and hit very hard so it is more likely they will just kill you 22:00 could you get away from angry mike? 22:00 i teled him away 22:00 and ran away 22:02 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:02 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 1127 points, 1494 turns, killed by a dwarf zombie 22:02 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 22:03 also funny how they are scared of the amulet of yendor 22:03 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7208 22:03 [US] SkippitoFriskito (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5129 22:03 you should be able to pacify angry dev team members with a pr of pacifying dev team members 22:03 i decided to pay them a visit on my way up to the planes 22:03 [EU] [D]: lrrr (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 205 points, 918 turns, killed by a hobbit 22:03 [US] allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:1762 22:03 [US] Dx34 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) found kitten, on T:3581 22:03 they refused to talk and were freaked out 22:04 i must've spent 75k turns looking for the 3rd scroll. I decided it was a prank and there's only 2 scrolls to begin with. 22:04 Just got me a rare situation where the only way to cross medusa is to throw boh across water and jump in behind it 22:04 because some arsehole orcs read both scrolls of earth before I could know what they were 22:05 [US] [D]: Dx34 (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3700 points, 3886 turns, killed by a white unicorn 22:05 [EU] Raisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:3397 22:06 well, except for the fact that I had 2 wishes but whatever 22:06 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 10298 points, 5306 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 22:07 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 316 points, 639 turns, killed by a small mimic 22:07 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:54338 22:07 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:54339 22:08 Magic missile spam + para >>>>> 22:09 [US] [D]: Cuchullain (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 324 points, 1576 turns, killed by a dart 22:09 [EU] DoktorL (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:15390 22:09 [EU] [D]: Everdying (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 232 points, 805 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 22:13 [US] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15155 22:13 [EU] DoktorL (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:15541 22:14 [US] jackofclubs (Rog Orc Mal Cha) found kitten, on T:1091 22:14 [US] squishy (Ran Elf Fem Cha) found kitten, on T:13466 22:15 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Huhetotl, on T:8470 22:16 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 569 points, 3224 turns, killed by a werejackal 22:16 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Huhetotl, on T:8506 22:17 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:17 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 22:18 [US] Snuff (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12395 22:19 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:108717 22:19 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:108719 22:19 [EU] [D]: lrrr (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 228 points, 1667 turns, killed by a dwarf 22:20 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:108746 22:21 -!- Imanity has joined #tnnt 22:21 -!- Imanity has left #tnnt 22:22 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 22:22 [EU] stenno (Bar Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3396 22:22 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:38805 22:23 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38822 22:23 [US] peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Cuchullain's ghost, the former Footpad, on T:1556 22:23 [EU] Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:49475 22:23 [EU] stenno (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:3624 22:23 [EU] Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:49475 22:23 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:8697 22:23 [EU] DoktorL (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:16988 22:24 [EU] DoktorL (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:16990 22:25 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 389 points, 1504 turns, killed by a kitten 22:25 [US] haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:12830 22:26 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7293 22:28 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:29 [US] [D]: allanb (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 271 points, 776 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 22:30 [EU] finitelycraig (Bar Hum Fem Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Crom, on T:27289 22:30 [EU] blankman (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9910 22:30 -!- arahael has joined #tnnt 22:31 -!- efot has joined #tnnt 22:31 50 tile room and i've killed like 100 monsters in it 22:31 ah...just robbing some stores with the help of my pet Keystone Kop 22:31 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 864 points, 1893 turns, killed by a rock mole, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:31 -!- terrapin has joined #tnnt 22:33 guess he's a Korrupt Kop 22:33 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:8862 22:34 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 108 points, 431 turns, killed by a kobold zombie 22:34 [EU] [D]: stenno (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 10407 points, 5401 turns, killed by a mountain centaur 22:35 -!- MiaBF has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:36 [US] tjw (Cav Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:40812 22:37 [EU] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "Blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:9609 22:39 [EU] Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:49721 22:40 -!- klepto has joined #tnnt 22:41 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed Dispater, on T:109215 22:41 [US] [D]: terrapin (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 197 points, 795 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 22:42 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 466 points, 940 turns, killed by a little dog 22:45 [US] eitlarry (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11149 22:46 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) removed bleeko's uncursed spellbook of magic missile from the swap chest, on T:9756 22:47 [EU] ansic (Pri Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:9447 22:48 [EU] Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed helm of opposite alignment", on T:49841 22:48 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:109424 22:48 not just killed. murdered. 22:49 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:109430 22:49 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:50 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 22:51 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 22168 points, 12179 turns, killed by a mastodon 22:51 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 784 points, 959 turns, killed by a gnome lord 22:52 you murderer! 22:53 [EU] finitelycraig (Bar Hum Fem Neu) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:33031 22:54 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Arc Gno Fem Neu) averted death (petrified by Medusa), on T:31822 22:55 [US] [D]: terrapin (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 564 points, 1109 turns, killed by a small mimic 22:55 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 22:55 [US] eitlarry (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:11614 22:55 [US] [D]: Dx34 (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 7166 points, 5321 turns, killed by a yeti 22:55 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Arc Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:31832 22:56 [EU] [A]: Evilparsnips (Wiz Elf Fem Law), 972168 points, 49843 turns, ascended 22:56 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/E/Evilparsnips/tnnt/dumplog/1699208387.tnnt.html 22:56 [EU] finitelycraig (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided green slime, on T:33077 22:57 [EU] nurdglaw (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed SkydiveMike's ghost, the former Adept, on T:6760 22:57 [US] eitlarry (Hea Gno Fem Neu) found kitten, on T:11750 22:59 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:00 Hourly Stats at 2023-11-11 23:00 UTC: Games: 21, Asc: 1, Scum: 0. 1d 07:52 gametime. (62%Neu), 19d 00:59 remaining. 23:04 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 23:05 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 1229 points, 2537 turns, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 23:07 -!- arahael_ has joined #tnnt 23:07 [EU] finitelycraig (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:34747 23:07 gg Evilparsnhips 23:08 [EU] Arasaka (Arc Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:37387 23:11 [US] [D]: Evendur (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 255 points, 520 turns, killed by a dwarf 23:12 <[> $lastgame WizardOfPoland 23:12 [: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/W/WizardOfPoland/tnnt/dumplog/1699043181.tnnt.html 23:12 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Dwa Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:24624 23:14 [EU] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful sewer rat, on T:2935 23:15 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 702 points, 1653 turns, killed by a giant bat 23:16 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 189 points, 523 turns, killed by a small mimic 23:16 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 40 points, 244 turns, killed by a grid bug 23:20 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 213 points, 551 turns, killed by a magical explosion 23:20 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1291 points, 3949 turns, killed by a large mimic 23:21 -!- arahael_ has quit [Quit: I'm off! Laters!] 23:21 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12337 23:23 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Arc Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:32907 23:26 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 410 points, 833 turns, killed by a manes 23:27 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed amulet of life saving", on T:39429 23:28 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Arc Gno Fem Neu) genocided green slime, on T:33251 23:29 gg parsnips 23:29 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:111890 23:30 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:39913 23:32 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 23:32 [US] efot (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8170 23:34 [EU] finitelycraig (Bar Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:36209 23:35 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) has entered the Arena, on T:40027 23:36 [US] [D]: terrapin (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 2264 points, 3751 turns, killed by a wand 23:36 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Merlek the Reaver in a deathmatch, on T:40070 23:37 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:39 [US] [D]: a1 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 4026 points, 7019 turns, killed by a black pudding 23:44 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:44 [EU] finitelycraig (Bar Hum Fem Neu) removed spazm's uncursed +0 cloak of magic resistance from the swap chest, on T:36305 23:44 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 23:46 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:33869 23:46 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "+2 blessed fixed greased boots of speed", on T:33871 23:46 [EU] nurdglaw (Val Hum Fem Law) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:7135 23:47 [EU] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:3233 23:47 [US] [D]: peterg (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 572 points, 2251 turns, killed by a newt, while frozen by a monster's gaze 23:48 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Arc Gno Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:33886 23:49 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:38177 23:49 [US] DekaFumoPuzzle (Arc Gno Fem Neu) genocided class L, on T:33888 23:49 [US] stoicjin (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38178 23:50 [US] haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18373 23:50 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:51 [US] Furey (Cav Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:112099 23:51 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:44509 23:52 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:41521 23:52 nao!furey does not use life saving, but tnnt!furey does, and npc!furey brings a whole set of them. 23:53 [US] karafruit (Cav Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:19519 23:54 they say "don't judge a master mind flayer until you've walked a mile in his shoes" but I have to say, even though I was one for a bit down in the gnomish mines, I still hate them. 23:54 [US] disperse (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:44569 23:54 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:41727 23:56 [EU] askhl (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) genocided arch-lich, on T:23283 23:58 [EU] askhl (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:23319 23:58 [EU] askhl (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:23321 23:58 -!- jientho has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:59 [US] spazm (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:42121 23:59 I am so over these swamp levels :(