00:13 once beta period ends, all games during beta are erased, xlogfile wiped 00:14 beta period is just that - test out new changes, identify/fix bugs. none of those games count or matter outside of the context of finding and fixing issues 00:14 @shadow_rider dunno yet, i'll see what's left in the swapchest when beta ends and pick from it 00:16 back to Nesta/ais523 discussion - once tnnt *ends* there's a one week grace period where you can finish out games. they wont count for the tournament of course, but you're given time to wrap them up 00:18 would it be possible to preseve a game on special cases? 00:19 no 00:24 at what time exactly do the saves get wiped? 00:26 beta period ends 24 hrs before go time, player access is disabled from playing at that time. gives admins time to properly wipe log files, bones, saved games, etc 00:26 clan signup opens at the same time 00:27 i just realized something - none of this info regarding the beta period is up on the rules page on the site 00:28 i'll fix that 00:29 @hearsegirl will this be your first year playing in the tournament? or have you played before? 00:34 i played once a few year ago, got my first ascension then. i unfortunately got a super lucky run just starting to warm up for tnnt yesterday as i just came back after a year or two of downtime and now it's about to be wiped ;~; 00:36 $time 00:36 crunchbubba: 2023-10-30 00:36:18 UTC. 2023 Tournament begins in 1d 23:23:42 00:36 so 23 more hours of beta? 00:36 at least you have... 23 hrs and 23 min to do something with it 00:37 your first ever asc was during tnnt? neat 00:37 do beta saves just get wiped? 00:37 yes 00:38 i like getting my save wiped so ill start one 00:38 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 00:39 yeah pretty much right at the end of the event and i played pretty much the whole month 00:39 ok cool started a wizard. its pretty seriously invested. found a scroll of light. when this gets wiped in a day, im really gonna miss it. 00:41 @hearsegirl what was your player name? 00:41 hearsegirl 00:42 https://hardfought.org/tnnt/archives/2020/players/hearsegirl.html 00:42 no e-word either, congrats! 00:43 ty! i guess i played less than i remembered. only one week. maybe not all the games were in the event 00:44 it says you got achievements in nov 2 00:45 oh yeah i see it now 00:49 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:49 -!- xdminsy has joined #tnnt 00:58 are config files distinct on the 3 hardfought servers for the same user name? 00:58 yes but its simple to transfer between servers 00:59 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59 I am on eu roight now and see no way to set tnnt config 01:00 I may be missing something obvious 01:00 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 01:00 in the tnnt menu, see option j 01:00 'Copy another config to tnnt' 01:00 -!- xdminsy has joined #tnnt 01:01 ah, I was in main manage setting menu, setting the editor and went to edit 01:05 apparently my "fix" to change terminal type is not working like I thought it was 01:08 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:16 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 01:46 $tell qt setting mac terminal to declare it's rxvt does not handle numeric keypad for compass directions. I'm trying iterm2 but can't see that it's actually in the applications folder, despite telling it to put itself there 01:46 No worries, crunchbubba, I've got this! 02:18 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:27 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:27 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 02:27 -!- rld has quit [Changing host] 02:27 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 02:27 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v rld] by ChanServ 03:10 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:14 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:41 -!- cathartes has joined #tnnt 03:42 Sup 03:47 btw, how long do game dumps last for on the hardfought server? 03:57 I don't think dumplogs get moved off the server; only ttyrecs do. 03:58 good to know 03:58 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 04:01 btw what version of the game is tnnt on this year? 3.7? 04:03 or a form of 3.6 04:05 3.6.7 05:32 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:38 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:38 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 05:38 -!- rld has quit [Changing host] 05:38 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 05:38 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v rld] by ChanServ 05:41 -!- xdminsy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:41 -!- xdminsy has joined #tnnt 05:51 -!- xdminsy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:51 -!- Cuchullain has joined #tnnt 05:51 -!- xdminsy has joined #tnnt 06:08 -!- Cuchullain has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:38 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 06:43 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:02 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 07:07 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 07:46 -!- Arseniy has joined #tnnt 08:01 -!- joes has joined #tnnt 08:03 arseniy, did you ascend your char? 08:04 can I access the dump of my ascension? 08:07 cbus: yes, 4-hour arc https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DoktorL/tnnt/dumplog/1698614422.tnnt.html 08:07 here's yours https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/t/torpedovariant/tnnt/dumplog/1698588946.tnnt.html 08:07 thanks <3 08:09 -!- HalNovek has joined #tnnt 08:10 got a wand-of-teleport-less game 08:10 arseniy, I got 118 ascensions since I got back to nethack from my long break 08:10 that ascension only had 1 08:10 and only 1 /oDeath 08:10 should've polypiled but whatever 08:10 no poly 08:10 :D 08:11 geno, poly, arti, elbe 08:12 and I didn't intentionally wear fedora the whole game, just kind of forgot to put on anything else 08:13 :D 08:13 until there was enough other armour so it didn't matter, then just rolled with it 08:15 also accidental spellcaster build, which I also don't normally do 08:16 but got early wish for spell-friendly armour and learned sleep early 08:23 cool 08:23 seems like both me and you are in decent shape 08:23 I have done 2 games lately, both ascended 08:23 and one was the illiterate 08:24 sup cbus! 08:26 I'm just playing a local game because I play way too slow to get an ascension in during the beta lol 08:26 fucking water nymph just stole my excalibur and reflection amulet lmao 08:27 mitzutsune, I did my one and only game in beta :) 08:29 and then I got ganked by an energy vortex while searching for the nymph 08:29 pensive 08:32 oh well. my beta game is in sokoban and part of me is too annoyed to solve it, for now. lol 08:34 got any goals in mind for this year cbus? 08:34 streaking 08:34 was my main goal 08:34 and having fun 08:34 =$ 08:35 jk 08:35 but streaming comes first 08:35 before having fun 08:35 *streaking 08:35 since I have burnt out early last couple of years I am gonna really listen to that 08:36 no trying to fight shadow_rider or arseniy for most ascensions :D 08:36 instead recruit! 08:36 heh 08:37 i have halloween plans after all so i may not get to play first day until later 08:37 no worries! 08:37 I Dont want anyone in the clan to feel any pressure, it is a game after all and should be fun 08:37 love it :)) 09:05 -!- HalNovek has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:26 Is it intentional that Juiblex counts for swamp achievement? 09:26 -!- engelson has joined #tnnt 09:31 -!- HalNovek has joined #tnnt 09:33 cbus do you already have a full clan? 09:33 how large can clans be? 09:34 good question. I just assumed there was a cap 09:34 but I think we have free slots 09:34 it looks like the largest ones are 12 09:34 should definitely not be an issue then 09:35 hell yeah, if you don't mind a newer player I'll hop in with you 09:35 nope, dont mind at al 09:35 +l 09:37 cool cool. what's your hardfought name again? 09:38 torpedojuice / torpedovariant / rustyspoon 09:38 gonna play on torpedojuice 09:39 bet. what's the clan name in mind? 09:39 no idea but some kind of pun :) 09:39 shadow_rider, arseniy, you got any suggestions? 09:39 hmmmm.... 09:40 nethack puns... 09:40 kinda feels like having a pun in the name is tradition 09:40 :D 09:43 -!- engelson has quit [Quit: Quit] 09:43 Boulder Beholders? 09:43 idk it rhymes lol 09:44 My ideas were: brothers in legs, mutant ninja newts, travelling crossbow salesmen, boots under ground, immovable force 09:45 Medusa swim team 09:45 but I think it has been used some previous year 09:45 it was used last year, yeah 09:45 in fact that's the one I happened to be on lol 09:46 i think Splendor of Yendor was also something going on last year 09:46 I was on that one I think 09:47 Sokoban Bouldering Gym 09:47 that's a nice one 09:47 Sokoban Bowling Club 09:48 playing off that suggestion, anyways 09:48 but I like yours as well 09:49 gonna write all up and lets have a vote later 09:51 orctown liberation army 09:52 yendor trust fund 09:52 people orctown liberation front 09:52 yendor trust fund is pretty godlike ngl joes 09:53 :D no idea where that came from 09:54 magic whistle blowers 09:55 "Apply unihorn where???" 09:55 "it glistens with an oily sheen" 09:56 apply directly to forehead 09:56 well that certainly took a turn 09:56 watch Cloudmillion's streams lol 09:56 joes that first one has the same vibe as "Izchak's dripping candle" and I'm not sure how to feel about that 09:56 her streams are pretty nice 09:57 uh yeah mitzu 09:57

can we make clans yet? i don't see a way to login on the login page 09:57 $time 09:57 joes: 2023-10-30 09:57:34 UTC. 2023 Tournament begins in 1d 14:02:25 09:57 yeah pleasee ping me once it is possible 09:57 in 14h 09:57 joes, thanks <3 09:57

we can't make clans until the tournament begins? 09:58 until 24h before, that's what people say 09:58 there's a timer on https://tnnt.org/ 09:58

oh alrighty 09:58 The Slim Molds 09:58

thansk for the info 09:59 Tsurugi of Mura-- 10:00 Pr. Seuss 10:01 Pr? 10:01 Perseus, Dr. Seuss *shrug* 10:02 is it purr-sews or purr-see-us? 10:02 I usually go for Purrminator as my cat name 10:02 Perseus 'R' Us 10:02 and Subwoofer on doggos 10:03 it's purr-see-us 10:03 :D my horse is pots164 10:03 haha 10:03 funny meta joke :) 10:03 does magic missile wand go over boulders or no 10:03 yes 10:03 so does rocks 10:03 sick thanks 10:03 sokoban woes 10:03 force bolt doesn't 10:03 so you can go back one level in sokoban and destroy a boulder 10:04 and bring the rocks and throw 10:04 thats what I meant by so do rocks 10:04 $whereis Mitzutsune 10:04 joes: [US] Mitzutsune : (Val Hum Fem Law) T:6351 Sokoban level: 5 10:04 as long as you carry a pick axe soko shouldnt get you stuck that often 10:04 i am bad at naming 10:04 I'm on 2b joes 10:04 y’all have good options 10:04 you can also break the very boulder you were pushing, because whatever 10:05 the pick-ake of shame 10:06 the borders are broken in the webterm 10:06 oh I solved the issue already with magic missile 10:06 $rc Mitzutsune 10:06 rc? 10:06 mitzutsune, https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/t/torpedojuice/tnnt/torpedojuice.tnntrc 10:06 if yuo want to have a look at my rc 10:07 thx 10:07 oh, config 10:07 I'm using IBMgraphics with boulders set to 0 10:07 DEC with 0 boulders, _ altars, 8 golems, X ghosts 10:07 and perm_invent and curses 10:08 my config is a mess because I copied it over from the desktop version so it's full of commenting fluff all over the place 10:08 I think mine was based on tonehack 10:08 or someone 10:08 went through it line by line then went through a couple more of notable players 10:08 I think this is what you wanted joes? https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mitzutsune/tnnt/Mitzutsune.tnntrc 10:08 and tried to also mention where I stole stuff from 10:09 found it already 10:09 ah okay lol 10:09 what makes you ask for it anyways? 10:10 why the horizontal borders are missing on hardfought.org/hterm 10:11 can't say I've done anything different 10:15 hmm I wonder if I have enough time to squeeze out an ascension before tourny 10:16 probably 10:17 if you do it instead of sleeping, you got enough time for 3 10:18 I might take a day off to play but not gonna mess up sleep 10:18 I had barely enough time to get to the quest last year, but that's a skill issue :P 10:20 pretty annoyed I haven't found a key yet tbh tbh 10:37 wait why do I have 4 watchers lmao 10:37 💦 10:38 joes, can you test something for me? 10:38 can you twoweapon and give me the lines in inventory 10:38 (my secondary weapon highlight does not work in TNNT it seems) 10:39 thanks 10:39 what did you have before? 10:39 a) an uncursed +0 orcish short sword (wielded in right hand) 10:40 w) an uncursed +0 orcish dagger (wielded in left hand) 10:40 so I had 10:40 MENUCOLOR="(weapon|wielded) in (left |right )?hand"=cyan&inverse 10:41 tfw unicorn horn :eyes: 10:44 I still don't have anything to unlock the door to the sokoban zoo with lmao 10:48 -!- tinklebear has joined #tnnt 11:12 TIL that spotted jelly does 1 morbillion damage 11:12 kekw. oh well 11:13 yeah they are like a floating eye 11:13 made to kill you by inattention 11:13 I've definitely underestimated them 11:14 I think my issue was, like, most of the time I see them I'm far enough along I can just gut them instantly 11:17 -!- Mitzutsune has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:17 -!- Mitzutsune has joined #tnnt 11:21 oh well, time to bore my viewers with price ID lol 11:22 I probably price id more than you 11:23 but I guess I play faster 11:23 I price ID everything possible 11:23 I probably *should* price ID potions but 11:24 I even price id enchantmnts on wapons/armor :P 11:25 wdym? 11:26 more enchantments = sells for more 11:26 -!- HalNovek has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:27 so you can figure out if the dagger you have is +0, +1, +2 ... 11:27 ah okay 11:27 half of that was forgetting what you meant by enchantment, ngl 11:28 :D 11:28 you do know about dipping unihorns into potions right? 11:28 yeah 11:34 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:34 they should've made spotted jellies move in your face just like the e 11:35 I think they would be more annoying that way 11:35 :D 11:36 lol 11:36 and also multiply if you leave them alone for too long 11:36 you want ferns? 11:36 cause thats how you get ferns 11:37 mitzutsune, in my last ascenion I had no general store 11:38 at all? 11:38 sounds annoying 11:38 at all 11:38 I ended up randomly reading a qualified guess which was identify 11:39 if you have some store, you can throw a bag of scrolls into it 11:39 yeah I couldnt be arsed to do that 11:39 so I did the read the scroll from dev island 11:39 blessed and naked 11:39 but you can also have orctown and not any store 11:39 with only throwaway armor on 11:40 then bless the rest of the id and go ham 11:42 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 11:43 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 11:45 Oh so you can die from passive attack from something you killed, I wonder if you can get a level-up just before death 11:46 engineer it 11:48 Level gain from experience occurs before the passive. 11:49 Can test it with acid blobs. 11:49 hi guys, man that's a lot of backscroll 11:49 'lo Furey. 11:49 Just woke up, so wasn't here for most of it. 11:50 Restarting this thing anyway. 11:50 umbire: i whaled on the TNNT article, what do you think? 11:50 👍 11:51 Berb 11:51 (be right back) 11:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 11:56 -!- xdminsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:57 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:58 so my pet attacked a floating eye... 11:58 any quick way to unstun it? lol 11:59 there are some I think, but they require special tools 12:00 the easiest is n200s 12:00 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 12:00 pro tip 12:01 -!- Bleeko has joined #tnnt 12:02 sup cbus 12:02 lunch 12:02 but I meant arseniys tip about unstunning 12:02 -!- tjw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:04 wiki says a tooled horn, or a depleted magical horn, or a leather drum, or a depleted magical drum. Maybe a bugle? 12:07 -!- Bleeko has quit [Quit: Bleeko] 12:13 If the wiki is correct, I consider that a bug 12:13 paralysis is not sleep 12:14 mitzutsune, try searching 12:14 phew 12:14 "The combat awakens you" <-- you were asleep, not paralyzed 12:15 I did once but got spooked lol. 12:15 n10s ftw 12:16 hello, Mitzu 12:16 sup fam 12:16 $time 12:16 Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]: 2023-10-30 12:16:16 UTC. 2023 Tournament begins in 1d 11:43:43 12:16 \o/ 12:16 "the combat awakens you" sounds like a nethack team name. :) 12:16 \o/ 12:16 :D 12:16 omg 11 hours to registration 12:16 furey, haha *Writes down* 12:18 -!- Bleeko has joined #tnnt 12:20 #tnntstats has a line headed "Known harmful potions drunk:" 12:20 Why "Known"? When I drank the one it lists, I did not know what it was. 12:21 it was an "Unknown harmful potion" 12:21 Speaking of combat awakening you, I've recently died to homunculus while fighting it side by side with housecat pet. That was a first, thought it should be less likely than that. 12:21 Now it’s a known harmful potion though, so I guess it works either way 12:21 heh, Loggers 12:22 the little i are pretty tough early on 12:23 the housecat, though. guess it got put to sleep as well 12:23 yeah homunculi can be dangerous if you let them get a hit in, even if you’ve got a pet hangin around 12:24 I used to die to imps a lot as well, but I haven’t in a while so maybe I was just bad? 12:25 -!- Bleeko has quit [Quit: Bleeko] 12:26 Tinklebear: yeah I think "known harmul potions drunk" -> "harmful potions drunk" would be an improvement. 12:28 -!- tinklebear has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:35 -!- tinklebear has joined #tnnt 12:36 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 12:37 -!- Umbire is now known as PhantomLumina 12:39 went through 4 fountains in a row for excalibur lol 12:40 very swingy, that excalibur 12:40 -!- Bleeko has joined #tnnt 12:42 * tinklebear is sticking with a thoroughly rusty +1 long sword 12:46 it's rustproof too! 12:46 (in a manner of speaking) 12:47 lmao 12:58 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 13:00 are you fucking kidding me cbus 13:01 ? 13:01 cockatrice spawned in my sokoban and attacked me first 13:01 why shouldn't it 13:02 okay but why is cbus in it 13:02 oh he's been watching me lol 13:04 or at least he was, probably asleep by now 13:04 fortunately I lived 13:06 yay 13:13 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:18 -!- Loggers_VIII has joined #tnnt 13:47 and there was much rejoicing 13:48 I was out on lunch 13:48 what did you have 13:48 oh right forgot lol 13:48 pho bo 13:48 btw does blessed ring of poly let you pick the transformation? 13:49 damn nice 13:49 mizutsune no 13:49 *mitzutsune 13:49 fair enough 13:54 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 14:02 hearsegirl gettin ur dun dlvl 38 14:02 $time 14:02 crunchbubba: 2023-10-30 14:02:55 UTC. 2023 Tournament begins in 1d 09:57:04 14:05 errmahgerd 14:05 herpaderp 14:05 sup k2 14:05 cbus getlin will be active for go time 14:05 perfect! 14:05 my ascension lacked it :D 14:05 i have to recompile it anyways to get tnnt out of beta mode 14:05 bag on a poly trap, can I kick it off without triggering it? 14:06 should yeah 14:06 perfect thanks 14:06 Polymorph traps don't affect items, and you have to step on it to activate it. 14:06 got me a valk yesterday to derust 14:06 just double checking haha. paranoid 14:06 sub6h :) 14:06 So yeah, just hope nothing fragile's inside 14:06 YANI: breaking potions inside of a container will cause water damage to other objects within 14:06 was a bag of tricks 14:08 oooh 96/325 achievements in that run 14:11 this game is set on giving me a heart attack lmao 14:11 poly trap right next to the up stairs 14:11 easy pet collecting! 14:12 sleep it 14:13 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:13 I always forget about my wands lol 14:14 staying around that trap is death 14:14 fair assessment 14:15 also why I told you to sleep that baby purple worm 14:15 so it doesnt hit the trap again 14:15 and turn into something you cant hnadle like a lich 14:19 catacombs, it seems 14:20 -!- Loggers_VIII has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:22 -!- qt has joined #tnnt 14:22 -!- mode/#tnnt [+o qt] by ChanServ 14:22 k2: i'm nervous about that patch that changes swap chest filenames (to include wizard-explore-normal mode value), hope that gets a little testing before nov 1 14:23 the swap chest filenames shouldn't be changed by that commit 14:23 qt: Message from Furey at 2023-10-29 13:43 UTC: bug report: "Peak condition". I got the achievement by quaffing a blessed potion of gain ability. However, the tnnt_notify line printed on the bottom status line of the screen, not on the top line. (I have OPTIONS=statuslines:3), creating a mess on the bottom status line. My 3 status lines like: 14:23 qt: Message from crunchbubba at 2023-10-30 01:46 UTC: setting mac terminal to declare it's rxvt does not handle numeric keypad for compass directions. I'm trying iterm2 but can't see that it's actually in the applications folder, despite telling it to put itself there 14:24 * crunchbubba runs in circles 14:24 wow Furey that's a crazy side effect 14:24 hmmm 14:25 I am glad you noticed that! 14:26 why are you worried about the playmode being added to the swapchest files? 14:30