00:00 ###### TNNT 2022 IS CLOSED! ###### 00:00 qt and aosdict did a LOT of work too 00:00 FINAL TOURNAMENT STATISTICS: Games: 22526, Asc: 311, Scum: 14312. 43531819 turns, 916931571 points. 512d 19:40 gametime. (29%Wiz), (56%Hum), (40%Cha), (52%Mal), 00:00 We hope you enjoyed The November Nethack Tournament. 00:00 Thank you for playing. 00:00 good games everyone 00:00 gg 00:00 gg 00:00 thanks again all, this was an incredible time 00:00 gg 00:00 K2: i didn't do that much work 00:00 gg 00:00 should we tell U-guy? 00:00 you did 00:00 gg 00:00 gg was fun 00:00 so modest :P 00:00 whell, whoever did, it was so fun. 00:00 not enough to merit LOT in caps lol 00:00 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 00:00 -!- Kontroller is now known as ontroller 00:00 happiest person that the tourney is over is my wife. 00:00 she goes: thank goodness! 00:00 I'm probably the second. 00:00 lol jetjaguar 00:00 qt: Aye, aye! 00:00 Now I don't need to pressure myself for no reason. 00:01 Good games, all. Thanks for the laughs and the tears. 00:01 haha 00:01 Umbire: really valiant effort 00:01 Also Croesus is a bot, think a little please. 00:01 see you next year all, I'm ascending 11.11 as usual 00:01 LOL Umbire, you're so cranky 00:01 great time 00:01 Also also, don't care, still finishing. 00:01 why / how does my purple worm have a tail on a different square? 00:01 glad to hear it Umbire 00:01 you deserve the win 00:01 Croesus, if you are a bot, tell me if P equals NP, since you ought to know? 00:01 Purple worms don't have tails is why. 00:01 [US] [D]: bleeko (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 66 points, 109 turns, killed by an iron ball collision (and 14 other games not reported) 00:01 all, remember: you can still wrap up existsing games for a week 00:01 You're thinking of the square. 00:01 let's see those anti-air-E tactics in action 00:01 gdi Lich, if you kill the priest I can no longer buy prot :< 00:02 spontiff: i see your screen -- never seen that message before! 00:02 P = NP 00:02 -!- spontiff43 is now known as spontiff 00:02 spontiff: that is a bug!!! 00:02 wow 00:02 thanks k2 and everyone 00:02 intriguing 00:02 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:10830 00:02 tail of a tame purple worm 00:02 Wait, is it an actual tail. 00:02 ~ 00:02 Wacky. 00:02 really weird 00:02 huh, that is intersting. 00:02 it will say "tail of a foo" when there is some data indicating a monster's there, but other data indicating there isn't 00:02 so it gets confused 00:03 K2: So get that Nobel Schmobel Prize then. 00:03 if you touch the tail, the universe will implode in on itself. so dont touch it 00:03 that is a very simplified reason 00:03 yeah don't touch it 00:03 vibrating tail 00:03 save/restore and it might go away 00:03 it actually may crash if you interact with it 00:03 oh I guess you left the level already 00:03 we both got hit by the same !oConf 00:03 did it try to engulf you? 00:03 while confused? 00:04 It did, I was wearing SD 00:04 yeah I've seen that effect before with engulf/expulsion in some circumstances 00:04 thanks for playing everyone, hope it was a good experience 00:04 I believe that has been fixed in 3.7 00:04 It was! 00:04 if it wasnt, qt will beat me (again) 00:04 just before t:50870 if anyone ever wants to look at the ttyrec 00:04 K2 it was great. really fun time. 00:04 :P 00:04 K2: look waht you made me do 00:05 :/ 00:05 Woooo! Great november everyone! Now go get some work done, ya slackers :-) 00:05 fun time 00:05 thanks everyone, and to ant that killed me - fuck you, I'll find you next year and eat you 00:05 hahah 00:05 k2: thanks for hosting this delerious gathering, thanks for twice restoring my hero from backup saves after crashes, and most especially, thanks for going with a policy that let me run amok cancelling the swap chest. 00:05 can a master lich kill a watch captain? 00:05 I think I want that saber 00:05 richo: yes 00:05 o/ 00:06 More than capable. 00:06 <@Tormuse> Aaand the tournament is over. Gg, everyone. ๐Ÿ™‚ 00:06 <@Tormuse> I was really hoping to get one last game in there. Sigh... 00:06 whee! 00:06 crunchbubba, leader of the Dinos. Where are you? 00:06 and welcome to all those who joined hardfought for the first time for this tournament 00:07 anselmus is DoktorL, right? amazing amazing display 00:07 hope to see you around outside the tournament too :) 00:07 that was great! i had a game where i went through a dozen or two pets just from going to minetown and sokoban, including one...cryopreserved in an icebox to revive later :) 00:07 Arseniy is DoktorL 00:07 crunchbubba said they had a lot of driving to do today 00:07 right, headed back to Montana 00:07 yay thanks you for the tournament 00:07 i misread that as "a lot of drinking to do today" 00:07 or driving in Montana, heug state and all 00:07 hopefully not both 00:07 montana is the big room of states 00:07 LOL 00:08 save the potions of booze for after driving 00:08 what to do if one was playing an unfinished tournament game? #quit and start a regular game? 00:08 thanks for a great tournament! 00:08 robin: you can keep playing it 00:08 for now 00:09 qt, ty (i know it won't count for anything but i've ascended unfinshed games post-tournament at least once :P) 00:09 Oh that's a pisstake and a half. 00:10 [US] [D]: OmegaDino (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1395 points, 1497 turns, killed by a gnome lord 00:10 [US] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1634 00:11 -!- Bleeko has quit [Quit: Bleeko] 00:11 i am quite happy with a 10% asc ratio, according to nethackscoreboard my ascension ratio overall is 0.5% 00:11 so that is a big improvement :P 00:11 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 00:12 [US] [D]: PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 555 points, 1738 turns, killed by a wererat (and one other game not reported) 00:13 qt woooo 00:13 [US] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:26586 00:13 how to fix plane of water? 00:13 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:51371 00:13 -!- K2 changed the topic on #tnnt to: Welcome to 'The November NetHack Tournament' :: public irc logs available at https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/irclog :: https://tnnt.org :: TNNT 2022 is over! Thanks for playing, see you all next year! 00:13 I'm off. My work has suffered enough this month that an early night is probably a good idea. See you all next year, I hope.ย  Thanks for all the fun (particularly that mad game you've got going, spontiff... you've inspired me to give pacifist another go). 00:14 jetjaguar: read enchant weapon while holding it and confused 00:14 cya Noims o/ 00:14 see you later Noims 00:14 jetjaguar: give player control over bubble movement, but increase risk somehow? 00:14 -!- Noims has left #tnnt 00:14 wop, yeah. 00:14 i like the tnnt only levels (dev team, arena). they were new unspoiled content and that is raaaaaare. 00:14 like if you scant on the edge, it swims in that direction 00:15 yes! those were fun, Furey ! 00:15 *stand 00:15 YANI ^ 00:15 (for aosdict) 00:15 Achievements were fun, of course, I didn't get a chance to play with those last year. 00:15 first time i went to dev team office, a wandering ki-rin materialized and summoned monsters around me. i charmed a bunch but not enough. so i noped out with cursed tele. 00:16 then i came back later. i spammed magic missile to clear the crowd. bhaak was wondering around and he saw me kill a peaceful. 00:16 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:16 [US] Noisytoot (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:3037 00:16 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Merlek's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:11512 00:16 bhaak frowns upon that 00:17 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Noisytoot's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:11518 00:17 [US] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:27055 00:17 -!- cathartes has joined #tnnt 00:17 clear case of NHINRL 00:17 next thing i know, this yellow at-sign with a drawn sword is coming at me! stethoscope says lvl 57, 200 hp. i freaked out and cursed tele again and never came back. 00:17 there's cathartes, who took away my top spot for most conducts in an asc 00:17 damn you :P 00:17 K2: I think swegen took it away from me last I checked. 00:18 WAT 00:18 [US] [D]: Staengia (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 11865 points, 9199 turns, killed by an ogre, while sleeping 00:18 [EU] jientho (Bar Orc Mal Cha) averted death (burned by a tower of flame), on T:5766 00:18 cathartes: good catch with that PR earlier today 00:18 $who 00:18 wop: [US] richo dbanethacker Tormuse Noisytoot ripley taxol Umbire Grouchy | [EU] jientho spontiff | [AU] No current players 00:18 ugh 13 00:18 Hi Astral. 00:18 purple rain! 00:18 I probably eat it here, but I have to try. 00:18 you can make it! 00:18 nah, you'll be good with those worm buddies. 00:18 Purple rain makes Astral sooo easy 00:19 qt: thanks, it's something that was slightly annoying me every time I used cursed gold detection on Plane of Air 00:19 tell them you're a friend of hothraxxa 00:19 I've never noticed it before 00:19 Umbire: it would be your first win on public servers? 00:19 I've had two already. 00:20 oh, it's at <75,6>? But I'm at <75,6> now, where did it go!? 00:20 Umbire: on public servers? 00:20 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:51605 00:20 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful purple worm, on T:58888 00:20 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful purple worm, on T:58888 00:20 were they during a previous tournament? nhs doesn't pick them up 00:20 In my last game I read cursed gold detection and it told me "Your toes itch" 00:20 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:51612 00:20 maybe alt account 00:20 * anselmus still can't his clan won, what a performance by Arseniy 00:20 believe* 00:21 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:58895 00:21 Not in TNNT, no. 00:22 on another account? just curious whether they are in some category of games that don't show up on the scoreboard 00:22 [EU] [D]: jientho (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 3240 points, 5783 turns, killed by a xan, while praying 00:22 not important though just concentrate on ascending :) 00:23 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Umbire_the_Phantom 00:23 Umby then 00:23 ah I see, other account 00:24 ah, I was looking for Umibre stats the other day and couldn't find any. thank you for providing that 00:24 I think if you tell aoei she will consolidate the two accounts 00:24 pesty being a pest 00:24 Umbire: I think you should definitely be able to win but if I were you I'd drop some stuff to become unburdened 00:24 Considering it. 00:24 that's especially bad on astral where monsters can easily mob you 00:25 +1 agree 00:25 Am aware. 00:25 i'd just dump some random crap from your BoH 00:25 i ahve ascended burdened a few times 00:25 usually by accident 00:25 [US] Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Death, on T:58971 00:26 I've probably done it too, I am burdened a lot late game because even when I have a full ascension kit, I still can't resist picking up random items 00:26 Nice teamkill, jackass 00:26 even when I know I will not use them 00:26 i know that feeling 00:26 Mhm 00:27 me, quietly watching umbire enjoy the thrill of astral, come what may 00:27 same 00:27 how about an achievement for finishing eating a monster in front of their kind? Like if you are mobbed by uruk-hai, and you're hungry and you eat one but you keep getting interrupted as the rest of them melee you. but you keep eating until you finish it. 00:28 gruesome 00:28 the uruk-hai feels demoralized! 00:28 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 00:28 orcs like it when you do that. makes them feel at home 00:28 you're relatable 00:29 the uruk-hai pulls up a seat next to you! the uruk-hai digs in to a fresh uruk-hai corpse! 00:29 yeah, giving them the proper treatment of fallen warrior 00:29 fellow battlefield-buffet gourmands 00:30 LOL, yeah, maybe uruk hai is a bad example. 00:30 elves, on the other hand, should freak out and run away 00:30 jetjaguar: could still be orc specific achievemnt, with name like "man of culture" 00:31 lol 00:31 $time 00:31 nabru: 2022-12-01 00:31:31 UTC. The 2022 tournament is OVER! 00:31 Michilen Man (as in michelin star restaurants) 00:31 Think this is it. 00:31 tjw: I had never seen that "Toes itch" message before. Apparently it only prints if there is one trap on the level directly under you? 00:32 i have ideas for achievements 00:32 this is it 00:32 [US] ripley (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:28806 00:32 -!- efot has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:32 Yep, I was on Plane of Water, frantically searching for the portal, and it somehow ended up right under me 00:32 yes! 00:32 [US] [E]: mrflash818 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 59048 points, 21115 turns, escaped 00:32 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:33 congrats Umbire 00:33 Umbire: gg 00:33 gg Umbire 00:33 [US] [A]: Umbire (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2491422 points, 59007 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Umbire/tnnt/dumplog/1667279221.tnnt.html 00:33 congrats!! 00:33 Umbire wins while burdened just because he can. 00:33 \o/ umbire, you got it! 00:33 ^ 00:33 if you read one when there are no traps on the level, it will say "Your toes stop itching", so they have been itchy until that point 00:33 Umbire great job, congrats 00:33 But really, thank you all, and apologies for the prickliness. 00:33 Genuinely. 00:33 Need a retroactive 30 min tourney extension 00:33 It's whatever. 00:34 Pride is what had me finish this out in the first place. 00:34 the important thing is finishing 00:34 no, let it carry forward, umbire starts 2023 with one asc. :) 00:34 Pf. 00:34 's my fault for not starting on it quicker anyway. 00:34 well, even that isn't really that important... the REALLY important thing is having fun 00:34 glory still earned 00:34 but it's nice to win :) 00:34 yeah, it was right to finish a game in that state. 00:35 it'll go straight to nethack scoreboard too 00:35 bummer that BilldaCat couldn't get a game this month. That dude is a savant at this game. 00:35 jetjaguar: it's the lowturns runner? 00:35 A late win is still a public-server win 00:35 Yes. 00:35 And hey, third one on record. 00:36 Umbire: it makes glory greater 00:36 On plane of fire at 7K turns, still impressive 00:36 At least he got one off the ground 00:36 wop, yeah. 00:36 I knew it was no go for finishing in time once I hit that fucking mind flayer. 00:37 But I still wanted to see how far I could push. 00:37 that's the spirit 00:37 (Granted, potion of paralysis, so it hit me) 00:37 it was really impressive that you got to the planes in time 00:37 i got stupid by one mind flayer this tourney. blew up 2 BoH, but ascended both. 00:37 mind flayer nerf is in top three 3.7 changes i'm looking forward to. 00:37 with all those forgotten levels eating up time 00:37 they're nerfing MFs? 00:38 yep 00:38 In the sense that you no longer forget levels and IDs. 00:38 their acronym is accurate though, "MFs" 00:38 They can still like 00:38 they still do Int damage but no longer make you forget levels 00:38 [US] [D]: Staengia (Arc Hum Mal Law), 746 points, 2375 turns, killed by a rothe 00:38 kill you though 00:38 so. 00:38 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/NetHack_3.7.0#Significant_changes 00:38 Like I said, in another universe I'd probably be a luxi-lite runner. 00:38 Mind flayers no longer cause amnesia; they only drain Intelligence. 00:39 an uncursed wand of digging (3:12) 00:39 the unihorn nerf makes up for the lost levels in a way; only restore ability will restore your intelligence, so you still have to be careful around them. 00:39 impressive 00:39 yeah attacking the hero is one thing but changing what player knows about game is rude 00:39 *forgotten levels 00:39 I don't know how I feel about this one, I kinda liked that MFs can ruin your day even if you're in ascension kit 00:39 I mean they still can, just by eating skill levels instead. 00:39 i'm a fan of the BoHsplosion change 00:39 And ofc brainlessness is a pretty permanent day ruiner. 00:40 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12406 00:40 you think we'll have 3.7.0 on next year's TNNT? 00:40 unihorn nerf makes ring of sustain ability more useful, too 00:40 One would hope. 00:40 @ wop 00:41 srs question: when i come back for tnnt 2023, will my acct/password/config file still be there? or do i set them all up again? 00:41 Furey: they will be there 00:41 Furey: it'll all stay here 00:42 I didn't read the changes on 3.6 year or two ago, and I made myself a Vladbane out of some junk item during TNNT 00:42 imagine my face when I meet fucking Alucard 00:42 hahaha wop 00:42 hah, wop. surprise! 00:43 Not gonna lie, the way I killed Vlad was pretty satisfying. 00:43 i saw one guy on this channel: "i killed my quest leader but stairs didn't open up, what's wrong?" 00:43 [US] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed bleeko's ghost, the former Pillager, on T:2190 00:44 I think top 5 "wish that'd played out differently" things was last locationing Vlad. 00:44 But the kill made up for it. 00:44 umbire: you were knight, did you joust vlad? 00:44 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 00:44 Twoweapon Excal + lance joust, one move 00:44 Then magic missile 00:44 then rebound 00:44 all it took 00:44 nice 00:44 I think I'll reward myself by going for another lancer ascension. 00:45 vlad be like "hey i upgraded! oh crap, umbire upgraded too" 00:45 Knight MM + MMoM is thing of beauty 00:45 gonna lance some riders? 00:45 Though I ditched my lance, maybe I'll try it next time I play Knight 00:45 did my first Knight this year, I like it more than Val 00:46 didn't #ride a thing though 00:46 I rode some dragons, they have their pluses and minuses 00:46 i wish devteam would cut down number of turns to advance riding skill, and make skilled/expert have more features than basic. 00:46 I really should've melee'd more than I had with the Riders. 00:46 [US] [D]: dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2712 points, 2258 turns, killed by a priestess of Tyr 00:47 Trying to be too cute with death zaps when I could literally just one shot them if I buff Excal to +5 and just swing twoweapon 00:47 for example, skilled/expert riders should be able to jump over a square of water. 00:47 Could've been worse, though. 00:47 Could've met Famine. 00:47 Think I straight up lose if I have to put up with them more than once, twice. 00:48 Technically Knights can jump, helps a lot on Astral 00:48 Famine is my go-to, K-rations are easy to carry around 00:48 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:48 can't jump in a straight line though without some other source of jumping 00:48 oh right, they can, i forget about that knight jump all the time 00:49 Super handy to escape out of a tight spot 00:49 knight's jump doesn't seem very viable on Astral in those crowds 00:49 That's what the teleport wands are for. 00:49 I prefer Death, he's typicall low HP. 00:49 On NAO, rider kills are Famine > Pestilence > Death 00:49 The jumping spell ignores burden, at least in 3.6.6 00:50 (that is, kills by riders, not kills of riders) 00:50 teleport wand goes in a straight line so I would prefer straight-line jumping on astral 00:50 The command and boots do not, but are generally a bit more convenient 00:50 ah shit, I've been dancing with the actual death the whole time 00:50 If you do like I did with the worms you might actually be able to get away with knight jumping. 00:50 Very strong might though, so. 00:51 enchanted thrown weapons work well too, especially with no launcher (dart, dagger, spear, shuriken) 00:51 I wonder what the rider kill stats would look like if you normalized for # encounters 00:51 Ironically I think I'm with jetjaguar here. 00:52 If you build up enough of a buffer you can "afford" a few stings. 00:52 Death will drain your maxhp but can't stun you, so I guess that's one reason why people might do Death first? But I would prefer to take the risk of maxhp drain last. 00:52 Very strong air quotes though. 00:52 Yeah that makes sense. 00:52 yeah when Death drains a 600 hp char to 500 hp, that's not a problem 00:53 Now, my <200 HP ass on the other hand 00:55 It's an optimum problem. Too little prep = more splats. Too much prep = 100000 turn game. 00:56 100000 turn game = more chances to do something stupid = more splats? 00:56 [US] [D]: taxol (Kni Hum Fem Law), 18568 points, 9122 turns, killed by a winter wolf cub 00:56 Most common problem (for me) is praying at wrong time and blowing divine protection. 00:56 Diminishing returns at that point anyway 00:57 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53946 00:57 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:53947 00:57 In any case, moving rooms then shower soon. 00:57 Big payoff is strolling through astral park one-shotting riders. :) 00:57 Thanks again, all. 00:57 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed for the first time, on T:53953 00:57 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:53953 00:57 ... 00:57 I... 00:57 drowned a spider 00:58 ok 00:58 well that's annoying 00:58 would've been infuriating two hours ago :p 00:58 Aye. 00:58 But yeah, one can play 3 100000 turn games, or 5 60000 turn games, or 7.5 40000 turn games. 00:58 You definitely wanna check surroundings when invocating 00:59 and next time around to check nothing is there spontiff zaps a wand of light and kills a random gremlin ... 01:00 well yeah 01:00 fortunately there's no water on the vibrating square level, so light probably won't kill a gremlin 01:00 perhaps blessed potion of monster detection? 01:01 oh, but rust traps I guess 01:01 cathartes: Until you create it by invocating 01:02 yeah, but then you're not going to drown anything by invocating again 01:02 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 01:04 True 01:06 [US] [D]: RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law), 5006 points, 3953 turns, killed by a soldier ant 01:06 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:06 [US] Noisytoot (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an orcish dagger on an altar, on T:4150 01:08 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 01:10 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:34023 01:10 check this out: achievements by year: 01:10 2021ย  277/287ย  96.5%ย  teamsplat 01:10 2022ย  316/323ย  97.8%ย  Surly Dinos 01:10 the last 10 achievements are ass-breakers 01:13 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:14 You hear someone counting gold coins. 01:14 I can hear the gold. 01:14 [US] Noisytoot (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed nabru the dwarf mummy, and former Digger, on T:4450 01:15 -!- spazm has left #tnnt 01:16 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:54422 01:16 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:54424 01:17 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:35166 01:18 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:35172 01:18 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:18 -!- shadowcat has joined #tnnt 01:19 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 01:20 Furey, thanks for all hard work 01:20 Staengia: Message from Furey at 2022-11-30 12:35 UTC: we're down to 2 combos and 12 hours, so i am going to start working on neutral human ranger. if you want to keep working on it, that's good, it will increase our chances. 01:22 [US] [D]: Noisytoot (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8639 points, 4788 turns, killed by a leocrotta 01:22 Also, apologies to aosdict and Bleeko for the slacking 01:23 -!- Furey has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:26 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 01:29 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 01:29 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:29 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 01:31 staengia: it was, thanks for helping with the minors, i didn't know if we would make it by the deadline 01:31 argh, "it was ... fun ..." 01:34 It was my first TNNT, so looking forward to next year to "do it right" 01:35 lol, my first too 01:35 -!- dbanethacker has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:36 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of a purple worm", on T:55152 01:38 -!- wop has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:39 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:36722 01:39 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:36724 01:42 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 01:42 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 01:43 [US] Noisytoot (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:2011 01:45 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 01:45 -!- Furey has quit [Client Quit] 01:54 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:55704 01:59 [US] [D]: RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law), 464 points, 1181 turns, killed by a jackal 02:08 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:56427 02:13 [EU] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:56557 02:15 -!- ontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:16 -!- ontroller has joined #tnnt 02:19 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 02:19 i've been away. anything happen? 02:20 [US] Tormuse (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:66707 02:21 -!- spontiff38 has joined #tnnt 02:21 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 02:21 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Client Quit] 02:23 -!- tinklebear has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 26.1] 02:23 ย Couldn't terminate one of your stale tnnt processes gracefully. 02:23 ย Force its termination? [yn] 02:23 Are you still around, K2? 02:23 -!- Elron has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:23 I had a hangup in the middle of escaping in celestial disgrace 02:24 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:25 -!- spontiff38 is now known as spontiff 02:27 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:28 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 02:33 crunchbubba did you finish your drive? 02:33 I did, and am watching robots 02:34 in Montana 02:34 robots "my kids" coded 02:35 i think hothraxxa ascended with like a minute left 02:36 and a couple of players ascended after the deadline 02:37 but no titles or lands were awarded to SD 02:37 time stamp on hothraxxa is 11:57 02:37 srs or kidding? where are titles/lands shown? 02:38 j/k 02:39 i was expecting after-party irc to be rowdy, maybe everyone went to irc 02:39 SD? (it's been a long day, and now I'm coaching robotics) 02:39 "Surly Dinos 02:39 DERP 02:39 "... maybe everyone went to discord" 02:40 crunchbubba doing a good job on the closure, i'm still watching games :-/ 02:41 the training never ends :V 02:41 i made notes for next year 02:41 hehe good 02:42 learn sokoban thoroughly, set up a clan channel on irc, use early wand of polymorph on pets, first wish from wand is "3 blessed scrolls of charging" not gfsm 02:43 -!- Furey12 has joined #tnnt 02:45 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:40420 02:46 -!- Furey12 has quit [Client Quit] 02:46 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:47 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 02:47 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Client Quit] 02:47 -!- Furey has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:50 $tell spontiff I recovered your game if you want to finish it. did your connect drop in the middle of a game? 02:50 spontiff shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 02:57 hrm, so what's the story with a powerful pet and sokoban 02:57 I'm assuming carting a lich through this with me is going to be painful and I assume coming out to find a feral lich will also make me sad 02:57 do I just not do soko? 02:58 ...? 02:58 Master and arch-liches are covetous 02:58 i.e. they warp to stay near you, so if they end up in a boulder path they usually won't be there for long 02:58 oh amazing 02:58 the only remote problem you might have is the zoo 02:59 sorry I've learned so many fun facts this week 02:59 but in general I'm puzzled as to why you think a powerful pet would be bad in soko 02:59 well I figured if he gets in the way it seems like it can be an issue? 02:59 [US] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:5900 02:59 (even then zoo problems with a purple L pet consist of "it wakes up the place and steals all the kills") 02:59 sure but that's not a property of power level 02:59 yeah that's fair 03:00 that's more "can you gate your pet off or else magic whistle them by you when needed" 03:00 this is probably gunna be some hilarious new way of messing things up for me regardless but I'd like to do it somewhere new as well 03:14 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:43326 03:14 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:43333 03:16 Thank you for hosting the tournament. it was a whole lot of fun! I really like the achievements, the list of achievements reached makes a useless death looking more useful! :D 03:17 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:43674 03:18 However, really enjoyed the month. Thanks for all the efforts! 03:18 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:43679 03:18 -!- Gandelf|unfoog is now known as blackpenguin 03:19 [US] [E]: OtsMcGee (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 16059 points, 10666 turns, escaped 03:20 heh, I just killed myself in a very weird way. I accidentally trapped myself in sokoban by mistakenly reading a scroll of earth 03:20 https://tabula.civitat.es/images/2022/11/30/C4Rr.png 03:21 oh hey my lich grew up at some point 03:21 they grow up before you know it. 03:25 <@Tormuse> There's a way out of that. If you drop everything in your inventory, you can squeeze past boulders. Then once you get yourself into a position where you can move the boulders out of the way, (or smash the boulders with pick-axe or wand of striking?) you can go back and recover your inventory. 03:29 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed cockatrice corpse", on T:44054 03:29 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:44058 03:30 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:44060 03:30 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:30 -!- NetSysFire has joined #tnnt 03:32 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:44173 03:33 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:44178 03:36 huh, someone dug a pit on the doorway on the way into the soko zoo :/ 03:37 I don't have lev :< 03:37 or at least if I do I don't know it, I have some unID'd rings 03:38 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:44594 03:41 Just fill it with a scroll of earth 03:41 You've completed the level so it won't induce penalties 03:42 oh that's smart, that didn't even occur to me, although I should probably check I have enough striking charges before I make things worse 03:43 I did just have a realisation, I swear I saw my position was less certain when I ate a Q but I haven't teleported yet, I'm wearing a ring of tele control I got from swapchest, did I just give up my speed for nothing? 03:44 No lol 03:44 Sokoban prevents teleporting 03:44 I'm running around the dungeons now 03:44 I wanted to go curse test these rings in case one was lev 03:44 Lucky teleport then? 03:45 lucky teleport? 03:45 Wait wait no, re-reading 03:45 So eating quantum mechanics toggles speed 03:45 It's their attacks that teleport you 03:45 yeah I knew that (academically) but kinda forgot as I ate it 03:45 ohhhhh 03:46 so the "your position is uncertain" was an attack, not an intrinsic from eating it 03:46 Yes 03:46 so I did give up my speed for nothing, whoopsie 03:46 Your velocity becomes uncertain if you eat one 03:46 And it'll note if you seem faster or slower 03:46 ahhh gotcha 03:46 yeah I think I misread it, hopefully I'll see another one soon I guess 03:46 Lost your speed intrinsic? 03:46 yup 03:47 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:45164 03:47 $whereis richo 03:47 Umbire: [US] richo : (Bar Orc Mal Cha) T:14577 The Dungeons of Doom level: 3 03:47 Oh then yeah, you'll be fine if you find another one 03:47 (or reach XL 7 on the near-zero chance you somehow haven't done that) 03:47 Can also just zap speed monster at yourself 03:47 well I reached 7 which is what gave me speed 03:48 but then I lost it to the Q 03:48 is the wand permanat? 03:48 I guessed as much, hence "near-zero chance" :B 03:48 Yes, you get the intrinsic from the wand 03:48 potions give temporary very fast speed 03:48 oh interesting, I didn't know that 03:51 [US] richo (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:15164 04:00 -!- blankman has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:02 -!- blankman has joined #tnnt 04:02 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:03 well this is a new strategy for me 04:03 find a preist, buy prot, let L kill them, find another priest 04:04 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) became The Lady's Envoy of Balance, on T:47012 04:04 Lather, rinse, repeat 04:06 I think our little clan did pretty well this time, all things considered 04:09 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:47388 04:09 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:47389 04:10 Great job everyone and especially the organisers, it was a blast! 04:13 I'm extremely pleased, 2 ascensions in one month after my previous effort of 1 in ten years lol 04:13 someone said there's another one of these shindigs in june? 04:14 junethack is more targeted at variants 04:15 I still can't believe I managed a streak of 6, never gotten close to that ever 04:16 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by an air elemental), on T:47608 04:16 Nicely done. 04:21 tjw: yeah i saw that you're now #1 on NHS 04:22 wow, but wait, what about cbus's 8 streak? Or is that active ones? 04:22 only active 04:23 Ah, not sure how I'm going to continue it lol 04:23 I nearly got a streak of 2, until my stupidity intervened 04:23 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:47847 04:24 tjw: i assume it will expire then "renew" at next tnnt 04:25 tjw: so potentially you can extend it (i think) 04:26 I wonder if that's the case if TNNT goes to 3.7.0 next year 04:27 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:47891 04:28 ok I have a dumb question, if you have conflict do you need to do the taming part to do purple rain? 04:28 like are tame worms significantly different to untame ones if you have conflict? 04:29 I don't know how well those two go together 04:29 IHMO purple rain makes Astral easy enough that you don't really need conflict 04:30 Hmm, NHS didn't connect my 2021 ending win with my 2022 starting wins to form a streak of 3 04:33 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 04:34 [US] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a priestess of Offler), on T:48118 04:34 allanb not having a good time on Astral 04:34 [US] [D]: allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1585522 points, 48124 turns, killed by a priestess of Offler (with the Amulet) 04:35 F 04:38 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:41 D: 04:41 richo: Conflict does make it likely that they'll attack other monsters as they are to attack you. 04:41 oh no :( 04:41 That said... 04:42 -!- agrius has joined #tnnt 04:42 Conflict on the Astral Plane causes hostile angels to be sent after you. 04:42 tjw: yeah the time I did it I realised long after I never actually wore conflict 04:42 in retrospect I probably should have, I wanted the visit all high altars achievement and then chickened out when I found mine on the second go 04:42 [US] a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:3136 04:44 Heh in my Tourist game I had to visit all 3 high altars but didn't get credit for the achievement because I didn't step on the altars themselves 04:44 hrm is my lich about to murder the whole dev team 04:45 Hopefully not 04:46 I wonder if anyone in the tournament ended their game by attacking a dev? 04:49 if not why not 04:51 [US] [D]: Agrius (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 484 points, 1398 turns, caught herself in her own magical blast 04:51 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 04:51 Devteam members are super high-level in order to dissuade exactly that 04:52 Also about the purple rain thing, conflict only works on enemies in sight range. Some players like to teleport the worms, and conflict would be ineffective then 04:52 [US] richo (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:20310 04:53 [US] [D]: a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2432 points, 4001 turns, killed by a fire ant 04:56 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:02 oh interesting, I didn't know that about conflict 05:02 for some reason I thought it was plausible to put on the ring and then hide for a while 05:05 welp the oracle won't be surviving this encounter 05:05 really starting to feel like I'm leaning into this chaotic thing 05:05 [US] richo (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:21397 05:08 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 05:13 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:20 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 05:20 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Client Quit] 05:20 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 05:22 [US] [D]: a1 (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 148 points, 692 turns, killed by a small mimic 05:23 hrm, really figured I'd have found reflection or levitation by now 05:24 if I dig a pit will my pet fall with me? I assume no 05:25 If you dig a hole, yes if he's next to you 05:25 TIL digging a hole is not safe if you're next to water 05:25 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 05:26 The statue of Perseus might have a shield of reflection 05:27 yeah that's what I'm thinking, dig down, come back up from the bottom, kill medusa, use my potion of lev to get back to the upstair, something something quest? 05:27 That could work. Don't forget the blindfold. 05:28 I'm already making myself like 500 notes about that 05:28 Might be easier just to do controlled level port 05:28 welp 05:28 oops 05:29 good news, didn't forget the blindfold 05:29 I got drowned by a python a few years ago too 05:29 first time trying to do medusa without levitation, pretty much what I expected 05:29 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:30 [US] [D]: richo (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 59200 points, 23278 turns, drowned in a pool of water by a python 05:30 It's tricky because a python that "grabs you" is the same condition that happens when an eel or kraken swings itself around you 05:30 ok for real thanks for an amazing tnnt everyone! I guess I'm officially done now 05:30 I'm gunna go pack for this trip 05:30 Have a good one! 05:35 you too! 05:36 yeah I didn't realise I needed to stay farther from the edges, with warning I figured I'd know about eels and krakens in there 05:38 richo: Be well! Hope to see you playing more going forward! 05:43 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 05:45 -!- agrius has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:47 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:57 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Killed (calcium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 05:57 -!- Noisytoot has joined #tnnt 05:59 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 06:04 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:05 -!- Umbire has quit [*.net *.split] 06:05 -!- qt has quit [*.net *.split] 06:05 -!- nabru has quit [*.net *.split] 06:05 -!- nicole has quit [*.net *.split] 06:05 -!- arahael has quit [*.net *.split] 06:12 -!- nicole has joined #tnnt 06:12 -!- arahael has joined #tnnt 06:18 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 06:23 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:26 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 06:27 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 06:35 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 06:40 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:53 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 06:56 [US] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a clay golem, on T:7878 06:58 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:05 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:11 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 07:13 -!- khamul has joined #tnnt 07:15 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:23 A big "THANK YOU!" to everyone involved in hosting this tournament! 07:23 Enjoyed it a lot and hope to be around next year again. 07:25 Unfortunately all these achievements offered here seriously spoil my efforts to achieve smaller turncounts ... 07:26 it's ok, other people inflate their turncounts going for achievements too 07:27 ... is what I say to myself to excuse my 50k+ turn ascensions 07:28 <@greeny> Thx for organising this tournament!!! 07:28 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 07:29 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 07:31 -!- nabru has joined #tnnt 07:33 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:45 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 07:49 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:00 tjw, my 8 one isnt active 08:00 died to a dwarf with a /oFire 08:03 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 08:08 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:10 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 08:15 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 08:16 -!- Arseniy has joined #tnnt 08:20 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 08:21 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:21 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 08:23 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:25 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:27 -!- anselmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:39 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 08:43 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:51 -!- Arseniy has left #tnnt 08:56 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 09:00 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:12 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 09:17 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:19 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(www.adiirc.com)] 14:33 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 14:40 -!- Arseniy has joined #tnnt 14:41 -!- Arseniy has left #tnnt 15:06 -!- qt has joined #tnnt 15:08 Reddit: TNNT 2022 has ended https://redd.it/z9q3pa 15:09 [US] desertgreg (Ran Orc Mal Cha) murdered his faithful quantum mechanic, on T:35613 15:22 [US] [Q]: MoonPig (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 361918 points, 19559 turns, quit 15:32 [US] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11741 15:33 https://0x0.st/oksn.jpg my entourage trying to help me get Ultimate Polearm Geek when i put on conflict 15:36 -!- raisse has left #tnnt 15:38 [US] [D]: dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 35545 points, 12187 turns, killed by a mumak 15:40 -!- Grouchy has joined #tnnt 15:48 lol qt 15:50 Thats a lot of pikes! 15:53 -!- HalNovek has joined #tnnt 15:53 (but you have to say it like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PbE3k9LG9A ) 15:56 Just passing to say thank you to anyone for another great and fun TNNT! :) 15:57 See you next year (I still have to get my Caveman ascension to get them all!), and maybe next June too for trying some variants for the first time. :) 16:03 [US] Tormuse (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:68018 16:03 -!- Bleeko has quit [Quit: Bleeko] 16:03 -!- Grouchy has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:05 -!- Bleeko has joined #tnnt 16:12 -!- tinklebear has joined #tnnt 16:12 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:15 HalNovek o/ 16:16 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:17207 16:16 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:17210 16:21 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:17304 16:21 -!- Grouchy has joined #tnnt 16:24 -!- qt has joined #tnnt 16:25 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:17467 16:26 k2, no mention about longest streak :) 16:26 no :P 16:26 i wasnt going to list every single leaderboard entry :) 16:30 -!- HalNovek has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:35 -!- Grouchy has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:35 -!- Grouchy has joined #tnnt 16:36 GT Surly Dinos! 16:37 I am still astounded 16:37 Gstreak, cbus 16:41 thanks :) 16:42 if i ever try to streak, i fail. they only happen for me by accident 16:42 I got my first streak ever this tournament :) 16:42 \o/ 16:45 -!- nurdglaw has joined #tnnt 16:53 I am still astounded by the number of ascentions cbus, k2, and others were posting. I top out at around 3 a month, and don't even understand how anyone can get realtimes around a day, much less 3-5-7hrs 16:54 same, Bleeko 16:54 that's the most asc i've ever knocked out in a month 16:54 previous best was 8 16:54 by asc #9 i was feeling burnt out 16:54 I can imagine :-) 16:55 was a great tournament 16:55 woop 16:55 i might try to get all roles next year, but ugh i dunno 16:56 luck plays a big factor 16:56 it's complicated gambling, but without the money 16:57 i never found a random WoW 16:57 not once 16:57 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:57 Nice thing about the way TNNT is set up is that everyone can set their own goals 16:57 and then I see several of you going on like 'wooo this is random wand of wishing #4 weeee' 16:57 hah 16:58 Bleeko yes! that's one of the tnnt design goals 16:58 You want to go for all roles, achievements, unique deaths, Bill's xtreme low turncount, you can 16:58 And then compete only against others in the same niche 17:00 I have to say, this month going for cheevos forced me to play waaaay less conservatively than I usually do, and I learned a lot from that. 17:00 Particularly, letting sea monsters grab me, giving a flayer "just a taste", and going for the keepalive trophies 17:00 me personally, i like to go for the ascensions. achievements are a secondary concern. if i earn some, great, if I dont, no big deal 17:01 i should have tried for a higher conduct asc too 17:01 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:01 -!- nurdglaw has joined #tnnt 17:01 -!- crunchbubba has joined #tnnt 17:01 congrats again, on the one you did, K2 17:02 thanks 17:02 8 was already was a huge one! 17:02 No, 9, sorry! 17:02 yeah, these tournaments are humbling. I am an egg 17:02 monk is the way to go for conducts 17:03 a couple years ago someone pulled off 14+ conducts 17:03 last year 17:03 chickatriceRobin, 15 conducts 17:03 Graznop had 14 17:04 Foodless wiz, always good 17:05 Wow, just looking at that 15 conduct game. Insane 17:06 yup 17:34 [US] Tormuse (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:68387 17:40 [US] [D]: dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 924 points, 3045 turns, killed by a gnome 17:45 -!- shadowcat has joined #tnnt 17:45 -!- shadowcat has left #tnnt 17:54 -!- Grouchy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:25 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:40 [US] Tormuse (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Famine, on T:68699 18:41 <@Tormuse> That wasn't me. He was killed in crossfire by someone with a wand of magic missile. ๐Ÿ˜› 18:46 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 18:49 [US] Tormuse (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:68723 18:51 15 conducts :O 18:55 [US] Noisytoot (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a titanothere, on T:7403 19:09 robin: was that your 15 conduct game last year? well done! 19:13 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:17 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 19:21 [EU] [E]: spontiff (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 38873 points, 50170 turns, escaped 19:23 that was weird - that game was one I'd escaped in celestial disgrace on about 17 hours ago, no idea why the save file was there. 19:23 spontiff: Message from K2 at 2022-12-01 02:50 UTC: I recovered your game if you want to finish it. did your connect drop in the middle of a game? 19:25 hi K2 thanks for restoring, that was a very old restore though.ย  my connection dropped in the middle of the end-of-game info dump after I'd finished. 19:25 must've been about 16k turns between the two, at least 19:25 huh 19:26 (and it all happened after the time cut-off) 19:26 that's weird 19:26 maybe the save state was the one just before tournament end 19:26 that would make sense 19:26 i missed you by about 20 min yesterday 19:27 no worries at all, thanks for hosting the tournament :) 19:27 happy to do it :) 19:28 My ratio of 1 asc : 1 astral splat : 1 elemental splat : 1 celestial disgrace after tournament end (because I hadn't saved a wish for HoOA) was pretty poor this year, but it was fun. 19:28 the fun bit, that's all that matters 19:28 ^ that 19:28 :D 19:29 Bleeko, oh no, no relation to chickatriceRobin :P i'm "lambda" on hardfought atm 19:31 [US] slarty (Kni Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6687 19:32 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 19:32 [US] Tormuse (Bar Orc Mal Cha) averted death (killed by an air elemental), on T:68837 19:33 [US] [D]: slarty (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1768 points, 6693 turns, killed by a giant ant, while praying 19:34 Pray to the ant god! Then we might spare you, puny mammal! 19:36 [...though lambda is taken on NAO; there should be username checkers for nethack/dcss/etc servers imho :P] 19:40 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:45 [US] [A]: Tormuse (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 4979900 points, 68881 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tormuse/tnnt/dumplog/1669354897.tnnt.html 19:51 \o/ 19:51 <@Tormuse> WOO! ๐Ÿ˜„ That was a close one! I was out of healing potions and got cornered by hordes of nasties, including two of the Riders... then came across a cockatrice, which allowed me to charge through the crowd, whacking them all with the corpse and I left a trail of statues from one end of the map to the other. I would not have made it if not for that stroke of luck at the eleventh hour there. ๐Ÿ™‚ (And I still had to use an amulet of life-saving during 19:51 that last charge) 19:51 congrats! 19:52 <@Tormuse> Thanks! ๐Ÿ˜„ 19:53 <@Tormuse> Illiterate conduct, genocideless conduct, and polymorphless conduct. (Both for self and items) It would've been really nice if I'd been able to finish this in time for the tournament yesterday. Oh well. ๐Ÿ™‚ 19:53 astral statuary 19:54 GG Tormuse! Great conducts, and not easy in +0, +1 gear!!! 19:57 <@Tormuse> Yeah, I've never tried illiterate conduct before; it presents a lot of interesting challenges. I couldn't enhance my weapons or armour or fireproof/rustproof them. (Except for wishing for them that way) I couldn't magically map levels of Gehennom, (so I used clairvoyance from priest donations to mitigate that) I couldn't genocide anything or identify anything, (except by sitting on thrones) and I couldn't charge anything. (Bye bye, 4 wishes) I also 19:57 wasn't able to confused gold detection traps on the elemental planes, so I used crystal balls to help with that. 19:58 cool! 19:58 [US] Noisytoot (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9809 20:00 the combo of mediocre AC, not being able to geno ;, plus using a crystal ball sounds like it makes for a pretty dicey plane of air? 20:01 plane of water, rather 20:01 impressive, especially as a chaotic so you can't even use the Card to get at least some sort of wand recharge 20:01 <@Tormuse> Oh yeah, believe me, I was worried about the krakens on that level, but somehow, it worked out. 20:03 <@Tormuse> I played as a barbarian, because I figured he'd be the best for combat, particularly for Cleaver, which turns out to be a pretty nice weapon for thinning crowds in the absence of enchant weapon scrolls. 20:03 K2: is there a meaningful way to contribute to this for next year? 20:04 You could code a new challenge, I presume... 20:05 but yeah, I'd like to know the answer to that too 20:09 code-wise you mean? 20:10 honestly whatever, do you need donations for infra? I can do code things too but in general I feel like for small projects more cooks is often more work than it saves 20:10 no, in terms of contributing 20:10 oh 20:10 as far as donations go, its appreciated, but we're good. I have servers costs covered 20:11 I would try to talk to people about nethack and tnnt. Maybe they will get into the game and be there in 2023 20:12 'build it and they will come' 20:12 hah 20:12 * K2 is kevin costner in disguise 20:12 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 20:13 waterworld is v underappreciated work 20:14 I finally saw it a couple of years ago 20:14 it was.. an experience 20:14 I've only seen it with the sound off. enjoyed it v much 20:15 'lo folks. 20:16 hey there 20:16 I am 30 today! 20:17 yay! 20:23 congrats! 20:31 happy birthday Umbire \o/ 20:32 max experience level 20:32 yeah waterworld had a lot of unrealized potential 20:32 i liked it 20:32 but it could have been so much better 20:32 like how? 20:33 You know what, I should unironically do that today. 20:33 Try to ascend a max level character in a variant somewhere. 20:34 Could probably do it with one of my forever-parked Evil games. 20:35 happy birthday! 20:36 Thank you 20:48 [US] a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:12676 21:02 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:16 is there anything special to ascending max level beyond just like.. farming for potions of gain level or wraith corpses? 21:17 Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 21:17 Well, your role does affect your ability to do both 21:17 In the sense of specifically the quest 21:17 i think if you want to go there you just rev-geno wraiths a couple of times 21:17 As well as general access to farming 21:18 Any role can do that, but there's also other stuff such as wraith farming that priests and I think wizards can do? 21:18 You can also alchemize gain level with some difficulty 21:18 but if it doesn't help your spellcasting there's not much use for going beyond lvl14 afaik 21:19 Additional levels just mean HP and power boosts along with skill points 21:19 yeh, but - at least in my games - more maxhp come from alcheized !oFH than levelling 21:19 Former two can be gained from other items, and once you solidify your kit to a certain point you won't have much need to enhance 21:19 I was getting to that, goooosh :B 21:21 In vanilla at least, getting to XL 30 is more of a personal challenge than anything you have to do 21:21 (which is why I'm interested bc it's my birthday and I wanna) 21:21 yeah totally, I was just curious if there were challenges to doing it that I wasn't seeing 21:22 more archons, probably 21:22 yeh, the monsters that spawn are probably higher level 21:22 I was 26 and 27 the two I got during tnnt, it felt like I could have gotten the last couple easy enough but wasn't directly worth trying 21:22 Yeah, you eventually have to deal with higher-level spawns that'd be rarer at about, say, 14-16 21:23 actually the one I got with 4 wishes to spare I should have just wished for !oGL for lols 21:23 Yeah 21:23 You can't gain levels past 30 but you still get the HP/Pw boosts 21:23 anyway godspeed 21:23 oh wait really? 21:23 Yahuh 21:24 I thought past 30 gaining levels was a nop 21:24 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 229862 points, 23470 turns, killed by a soldier, while frozen by a potion 21:24 In that it physically will not increase past 30, no 21:24 but yes, you still gain HP and Pw as normal 21:24 that's good to know 21:41 [US] [D]: a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 6922 points, 13518 turns, killed by a rope golem, while sleeping off a magical draught 21:48 [backscroll] tinklebear, i dont know how exactly, i just know the waterworld story could be told in a better way 21:49 <@Tormuse> Another source of leveling up is foocubuses, assuming you can get your intelligence and charisma stats high enough and have means of mitigating the negative effects. I've gotten multiple levels per game that way. ๐Ÿ™‚ 21:50 JG Ballard's novel "Drowned World" is sort of about a water world. Ballard is interesting writer. 21:54 s/interesting/inventive/ <-- "please be more specific, tinklebear" 21:54 "foocubi" but yeah 21:55 level 10, "time to find the sinks and F around" 21:55 to get quest admittance, I mean 21:57 -!- nurdglaw has joined #tnnt 21:58 -!- DjanSeriy has left #tnnt 21:59 <@Tormuse> Ah, right, I stand corrected. ๐Ÿ™‚ 22:06 You can still manage a levle or two at that point, but pushing straight to 14 usually requires wraiths/GL/foocubi/what-have-you 22:10 [US] [D]: desertgreg (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 178996 points, 37070 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 22:10 D:!? 22:11 $lastgame 22:11 Umbire: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/desertgreg/tnnt/dumplog/1669309055.tnnt.html | [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/spontiff/tnnt/dumplog/1669578596.tnnt.html | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bleeko/tnnt/dumplog/1669840507.tnnt.html 22:11 ack, that sucks 22:11 hate the Ranger home so much lmao 22:19 ranger quest without reflection is grim 22:19 (or all the resistances) 22:23 [US] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5674 22:23 *wand* resistances, I mean 22:23 not a lot of black dragons down that way 22:28 [US] [D]: dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 20213 points, 5937 turns, killed by a minotaur 22:28 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 22:28 $lastgame 22:28 Umbire: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/tnnt/dumplog/1669916420.tnnt.html | [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/s/spontiff/tnnt/dumplog/1669578596.tnnt.html | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bleeko/tnnt/dumplog/1669840507.tnnt.html 22:28 Shithoused by a polytrap or shapechanger 22:58 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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