00:00 DAILY STATS AT 2022-11-16 00:00 UTC: Games: 2316, Asc: 12, Scum: 2084. 1281060 turns, 31289175 points. 16d 00:30 gametime. (35%Wiz), (50%Hum), (47%Cha), (63%Mal), 14d 23:59 remaining. 00:00 <@TheYOUNGster> gonna take a break, will finally get to finishing the medusa next time 00:00 <@TheYOUNGster> those monsters just pounded me at the start there yikes 00:00 Titan, right? 00:00 [EU] lacca (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:18669 00:00 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an octagonal amulet on an altar, on T:3093 00:01 [US] SkydiveMike (Cav Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:90250 00:03 Smoky's healing 00:05 [EU] jt (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:20546 00:05 [US] eitwinston (Pri Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3337 00:05 [US] kcostell (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:41780 00:05 [AU] [D]: Orcranger (Kni Hum Mal Law), 136208 points, 17211 turns, killed by an invisible Olog-hai 00:05 <@Umbyre (he/him)> nice and clean 00:05 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/1042228985750364200/image.png 00:06 <@Umbyre (he/him)> also as a general FYI Gray isn't of much use unless you unrestrict sabers, and I thought you got Mjolnir anyway 00:08 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5983 points, 4143 turns, killed by a warg 00:08 Elvenking shot down 00:08 [US] kcostell (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Death, on T:41831 00:08 [US] [D]: micromoog (Cav Hum Fem Law), 4146 points, 4310 turns, killed by a housecat 00:10 Oh nice, throne gave me a dex point 00:10 And spinach for a STR boost 00:10 nice! 00:12 [US] kcostell (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:41896 00:12 [US] goupaloupa (Bar Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 8 arrows on an altar, on T:3900 00:14 [US] kcostell (Bar Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed figurine of a large cat named Finn", on T:41926 00:14 [US] kcostell (Bar Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed figurine of a kitten named Fred", on T:41926 00:15 ...oh huh. 00:16 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:2322 00:16 I've been wearing +3 jump boots whole time. 00:16 [US] [A]: kcostell (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1615821 points, 41928 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/kcostell/tnnt/dumplog/1668075754.tnnt.html 00:16 [US] Dx34 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a circular amulet on an altar, on T:4993 00:17 GG 00:17 yikes went on autopilot and fainted, i'm used to colorized hunger status 00:18 [US] [D]: Dx34 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5691 points, 5055 turns, killed by a white unicorn 00:19 [US] cernixs (Bar Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4229 00:19 You ever just kill two straight shock spheres with a wand of cold and a ya shot 00:20 [US] DobbyK (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:4093 00:21 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2777 points, 2574 turns, killed by a tengu 00:23 [US] zoya (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:42415 00:23 gonna try to bring some pets through the planes 00:24 [US] [D]: cernixs (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 3158 points, 4637 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 00:26 [US] zoya (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Yeenoghu, on T:42597 00:27 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 00:30 gl 00:33 [AU] Umbire (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed galadriel's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:11429 00:33 Oh shit, they died with gray DSM 00:33 And a cursed BoH 00:33 (I mean I assume it's cursed, when is it not) 00:34 anyway mineminemineminemineminemineminemineminemineminemine 00:34 Had that fucking splint on forever 00:34 +2 baby woo! 00:34 Wish I'd put on the shirt first though. 00:34 No matter! 00:35 Hmm, BoH isn't especially heavy 00:35 [US] [D]: Dx34 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2488 points, 2297 turns, poisoned by a rotted killer bee corpse, while helpless 00:36 [US] Bean (Ran Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19175 00:36 If you thought the Wizard was bad, just wait till you meet the Warlord! 00:36 [US] Bean (Ran Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19200 00:36 They say that Geryon has an evil twin, beware! 00:36 YANI fortunes 00:36 [US] Bean (Ran Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19218 00:36 [US] Bean (Ran Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19238 00:36 [US] Bean (Ran Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19252 00:36 [US] Bean (Ran Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19263 00:36 [US] Bean (Ran Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19272 00:37 [US] efot (Arc Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:40473 00:37 Oh so the bag IS cursed 00:37 just not much in it 00:37 oof 00:37 wdym oof, this means it's trivial to uncurse 00:37 [US] efot (Arc Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:40482 00:38 Scrolls potions and a couple of rings, not bad 00:38 and I can donate the spare bag at my leisure 00:38 oo, bunch of that stuff was blessed 00:38 [US] eitwinston (Pri Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a panther, on T:5172 00:39 Potions I can dilute for water 00:39 [EU] lacca (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:24268 00:39 Umbire: why are those YANIs, they already exist 00:39 [EU] noims (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:41371 00:39 [US] efot (Arc Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:40494 00:39 As in fortunes giving me new ideas 00:40 [US] [D]: eitwinston (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 7489 points, 5359 turns, petrified by a cockatrice 00:41 [US] [D]: Bean (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 137831 points, 19812 turns, killed by a troll, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:41 [US] SkydiveMike (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:90928 00:42 [US] efot (Arc Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:40515 00:42 [US] efot (Arc Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:40516 00:43 [US] efot (Arc Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic whistle", on T:40626 00:44 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:160991 00:45 [US] kewldewd (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:39218 00:45 [US] [D]: crunchbubba (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2790 points, 3651 turns, killed by a fire ant 00:46 [US] kewldewd (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:39220 00:47 You kill the invisible Wizard of Yendor! The umber hulk's gaze confuses you! The gelatinous cube eats the Wizard of Yendor's corpse. 00:47 [AU] Umbire (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:12089 00:47 Go team cube! 00:47 good thing I made water first 00:48 don't forget to zip up 00:48 funny thing is I got good RNG one timeout since a centipede corpse reconciled 00:48 it also dropped a scroll of create monster that made a warhorse 00:48 which led to above 00:48 Very funny sequence 00:49 [US] [D]: walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu), 32654 points, 15241 turns, killed by a barrow wight, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:51 [EU] lacca (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:25179 00:52 [US] [D]: cernixs (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1202 points, 3400 turns, killed by a plains centaur 00:52 [EU] noims (Rog Orc Fem Cha) genocided class ;, on T:42151 00:52 [US] Smugzug (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:31399 00:53 [EU] noims (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:42152 00:53 [EU] noims (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of telepathy", on T:42160 00:54 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:161193 00:54 [EU] noims (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:42171 00:55 The gelatinous cube eats the Wizard of Yendor's corpse. 00:55 Only the finest for team cube. 00:56 [US] bouquet (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24171 00:56 $lastgame crunchbubba 00:56 crunchbubba: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/c/crunchbubba/tnnt/dumplog/1668556805.tnnt.html 00:57 Go team a! 00:57 [US] [D]: macawesone (Val Hum Fem Law), 936 points, 1073 turns, killed by a housecat (and one other game not reported) 00:57 yeah, I knew that I died on a bones level, despite not running into the ghost 00:58 Oracle, a killer bee corpse near the stair, with no trap, a statue location had only a spellbook on it 00:58 [EU] noims (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:42359 00:59 [US] Smugzug (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by a touch of death), on T:31654 00:59 but my exact same role, race, alignment 01:00 Hourly Stats at 2022-11-16 01:00 UTC: Games: 15, Asc: 1, Scum: 1. 1d 04:20 gametime. (29%Val), 14d 22:59 remaining. 01:00 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 01:00 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:00 -!- NetSysFire has joined #tnnt 01:01 $time 01:01 nabru: 2022-11-16 01:01:59 UTC. 2022 Tournament closes in 14d 22:58:01 01:06 The floating eye is frozen by the gelatinous cube. 01:06 HOW DOES IT FEEL, FLOATING EYE? 01:06 LOL 01:06 hahaha 01:09 -!- cernixs has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:10 [EU] noims (Rog Orc Fem Cha) has entered the Arena, on T:43098 01:10 watches Furey 01:11 [US] [D]: Bean (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5268 points, 4206 turns, killed by a mumak, while praying 01:11 [US] [D]: eitwinston (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 693 points, 1861 turns, killed by a gnome lord 01:11 [EU] noims (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed wizard44 the Warrior in a deathmatch, on T:43130 01:12 \o/ 01:13 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:13 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 41 points, 135 turns, killed by an electric shock 01:13 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 01:15 [US] [D]: LythariDrow (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2138 points, 4639 turns, killed by a bugbear, while praying 01:16 [US] SkydiveMike (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:91351 01:17 [US] [D]: walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1673 points, 3307 turns, killed by a dwarf lord 01:17 [US] SkydiveMike (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:91363 01:17 -!- DobbyK has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:18 [US] dingotron (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:8254 01:24 [US] Loggers (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:24606 01:25 [EU] noims (Rog Orc Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:43725 01:25 pets will go through a planes portal without you? 01:26 [US] eitwinston (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed eitwinston's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1279 01:28 yes, occasionally they do, kinda like polytrap chances 01:29 these cubes eat a lot so if i walk into portal i lose some 01:30 [US] efot (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:41344 01:30 Suddenly, the green slime disappears out of sight. 01:31 [US] Loggers (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:24836 01:31 mr. dexterity stat-loss message, how exactly does one "work on reflexes"? 01:32 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1480 points, 2409 turns, killed by a rope golem 01:33 [US] efot (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:41481 01:34 [US] taxol (Bar Orc Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "test", on T:4376 01:34 [US] Loggers (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:25114 01:34 [US] aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding named can't believe I need 2 boh wishes this game", on T:24186 01:34 [US] efot (Arc Hum Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 41 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:41600 01:35 [EU] noims (Rog Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 12 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:44170 01:36 baalzebub be raking it in1 01:37 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:5040 01:37 [US] efot (Arc Hum Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:41755 01:37 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:37 [US] efot (Arc Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:41756 01:37 [EU] lacca (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:29240 01:38 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:4628 01:38 [US] aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (arch-lich), on T:24258 01:39 -!- efot has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:41 -!- Dhuend has joined #tnnt 01:41 good evening everybody 01:41 evening 01:42 [EU] noims (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:44520 01:42 [US] LythariDrow (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "+3 blessed greased fixed silver dragon scale mail", on T:1865 01:42 [US] aosdict (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:24413 01:45 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4730 01:46 'lo. 01:48 [US] [D]: eitwinston (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1869 points, 2715 turns, killed by a giant spider 01:48 Furey can you cast magic mapping? 01:49 sweet 01:50 -!- Noims has left #tnnt 01:53 [EU] lacca (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:30861 01:53 [EU] lacca (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30862 01:54 Furey, can you map my dungeon too, please. thx 01:54 -!- anselmus has joined #tnnt 01:55 crunchbubba: no, never got the spellbook, and didn't think i would need it bad enough to wish 01:56 jetjaguar: you can divination, and i'm restricted in it! 01:57 [US] Loggers (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:26675 01:57 [US] Loggers (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26677 01:57 now i'm waiting for the yellow clover to show on my player page 01:58 are you going to Kondo the Astral? 01:58 -!- Mitzutsune has joined #tnnt 01:58 [US] Mitzutsune (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed LythariDrow's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:6413 01:59 no, i am going to try to tame pestilence and famine, though 01:59 sup gamers 01:59 keep them out of my hair while i try for a sacrifice gift 01:59 I think I have to sleep, so have fun 01:59 I managed to get Mojo super early before I got Excal, wonder if I should stick with it 01:59 gn bubba! 01:59 [EU] noims (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:45100 01:59 cheers crunchbubba, have a good sleep 01:59 Mitzutsune, did you ascend your other game? 01:59 [EU] noims (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:45101 02:00 jetjaguar I did! 02:00 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mitzutsune/tnnt/dumplog/1667803064.tnnt.html 02:00 awesome. congrats my dude. 02:00 ah, made you do all three altars? welcome to the party. 02:00 It was grand tour, but it didn't count the achievement because I didn't stand directly on the altars '=( 02:00 oh, I didn't know that was an achieve. 02:00 it is 02:01 the ghost I just killed is bones Minetown lol 02:01 What'd they have on 'em? 02:01 mitzutsune i just made it to astral 02:01 nice Furey 02:01 Umbire lots of rings and wands, like two bags 02:01 Either cursed? 02:02 I got GDSM from galadriel bones on DL11 02:02 NO 02:02 [AU] [D]: Umbire (Sam Hum Mal Law), 30854 points, 14165 turns, petrified by a chickatrice corpse 02:02 Forgot to check gloves because I was chatting 02:02 oof 02:02 Whatever. 02:04 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:29324 02:04 unfortunately the bags are cursed 02:04 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:29325 02:05 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a lizard corpse, on T:6448 02:05 There's a unicorn running around in here, probably what killed him 02:05 Coaligned or no. 02:06 No 02:08 Got it's horn and the sacrifice. 02:11 Cool 02:12 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (plains centaur), on T:7238 02:13 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:14 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 7691 points, 7271 turns, killed by a warg 02:14 [US] Smugzug (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 Cloak of Magic Resistance", on T:31776 02:14 lol, another unicorn 02:15 [US] Loggers (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:27807 02:15 [US] [D]: mrflash818 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1080 points, 3699 turns, poisoned by an orcish arrow 02:16 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:29603 02:17 [EU] lacca (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:32562 02:17 [US] Dhuend (Bar Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:19897 02:17 [US] eitlarry (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:40790 02:19 [US] SkydiveMike (Cav Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:93688 02:21 [US] Loggers (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:28291 02:22 hm, this minetown bones died on the altar with bags of ticks, corpses, and wand of create monster. must've died altar camping lol 02:22 bag of tricks* 02:22 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:29719 02:23 [US] eitwinston (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:3911 02:24 [US] Loggers (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:28558 02:24 Furey, got Buffy. 02:25 [US] Loggers (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Geryon, on T:28615 02:25 [US] [D]: micromoog (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1282 points, 3093 turns, killed by a blue jelly 02:27 [US] eitwinston (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:4109 02:31 [US] [D]: Bean (Ran Hum Fem Cha), 717 points, 1911 turns, killed by a dwarf 02:32 [US] [D]: WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 402 points, 553 turns, killed by a bat (and 12 other games not reported) 02:32 [US] Loggers (Rog Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:29223 02:32 [US] Loggers (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:29224 02:33 -!- Brandork has joined #tnnt 02:33 gday Brandork 02:33 [US] [D]: eitwinston (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 4635 points, 4386 turns, killed by an Uruk-hai 02:34 hola hola did you win yet? 02:34 I did! https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Mitzutsune/tnnt/dumplog/1667803064.tnnt.html 02:34 holy smokes good stuff 02:34 it was grand tour but the achievement didn't count because I didn't stand on them directly LOL 02:35 my current run is off to a good start though. Minetown bones that got me some good stuff and let me ID every kind of bag 02:35 Nice, doing another Valk? 02:36 they're the only ones I feel comfortable playing LOL 02:36 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:1971 02:36 Well if you have fun with them then more power to you 02:36 Random still hasn't generated me a Valk character yet lol 02:37 [EU] lacca (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:34028 02:37 I forgot how loot heavy the priest quest is. 02:37 by the by, what in the world is the difference between MC# and MR? 02:37 [US] [D]: dgoddard (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 928 points, 1610 turns, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food 02:37 MR means you resist the effects of magic, like when fire burns you, MC means it doesnt damage you 02:37 Either that or vice versa lol 02:37 Nnnno. 02:38 Ah farts 02:38 MR is player-style magic resistance. 02:38 MC is "magic cancellation", governs resisting the effects of monster attacks, like say a wraith level draining you. 02:38 So I was right when i said vice versa? 02:39 ah okay. so MC is workable but you'd really want MR 02:39 Neither MR/MC stop fire damage like that. 02:39 I think you want both 02:39 Mitzutsune: Depends on your threat model. 02:39 For example, doesnt MC prevent your items from being cursed? 02:41 [US] [D]: dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 310 points, 1248 turns, killed by a bat, while frozen by a potion 02:41 -!- Furey has joined #tnnt 02:41 No, that's MR. 02:41 <@Loggers> If the wiki is correct, it would not protect from monsters cursing your items as that is considered “spell casting” 02:42 MR weakens item-cursing effects to some degree. 02:42 Also, consider the example - wraiths draining levels is intrinsic to their attacks. 02:42 [US] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a dwarf king), on T:1741 02:42 So MC prevents Level Drain but doesnt prevent item cursing lol 02:42 <@Loggers> Basically yeah 02:43 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products (candy bar) for the first time, on T:3026 02:43 Welp, I'm back to being confused then haha 02:43 Makes zero sense to me 02:43 [US] [D]: WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 971 points, 1824 turns, killed by a dwarf (and one other game not reported) 02:43 MR is for spells, MC is for monster abilities. 02:43 <@Loggers> Works on “special melee attacks” like poison, lycanthropy, etc. 02:43 I'll grant that it's not as intuitive as it could be. 02:43 Okay so MR will reduce the DAMAGE from a fire spell/wand/scroll? 02:44 [US] taxol (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed mrflash818's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:7087 02:44 <@Loggers> I don’t think so? 02:44 <@Loggers> I think you’d just want fire resistance lol 02:44 How do you take less damage from spells then? 02:44 Or is that the neat part? 02:44 you dont... 02:44 jetjaguar: nice buffy! 02:45 [US] [D]: LythariDrow (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 5548 points, 6714 turns, killed by a gargoyle 02:45 <@Loggers> No, magic cancellation reduces damage from fire attacks 02:45 [US] [D]: eitwinston (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 997 points, 1306 turns, killed by a magic missile 02:45 <@Loggers> Or I think it actually just reduces the chance of item destruction 02:45 MR protects against: death rays; touch of death from arch-liches and rodney; armor disintegration from golden nagas and titans 02:46 [AU] [D]: Umbire (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 1311 points, 3038 turns, killed by a killer bee, while unconscious from rotten food 02:46 MC has a percentage chance of cancelling a whole passel of special attacks that I don't pay attention to. 02:46 MR also protects against poly and tele traps 02:46 It sounds like you're supposed to memorize a long list of things or keep the wiki open to know it lol 02:46 yeah, very important -- once you have MR you can seek out poly traps without using them up and then whistle pets onto it 02:47 I mean, not really? 02:47 Again, it's not fully intuitive, but distinguishing between magic and not-magic should at least be straightforward 02:47 [US] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed WizzyTheWeird's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1628 02:47 (or rather, cast spells vs. melee types 02:47 anyway) 02:48 there is a lot to learn if you're going for 300 achievements, but a short list will take people a long way. 02:48 Except theyre both called Magic Res/Cancel lol 02:48 knowing about magic cancellation on armor isnt something a beginner has to worry about 02:48 (1) poison resistance, magic resistance, reflection 02:49 (2) throw daggers (or for some classes, darts, shurikens, or knives) 02:50 [US] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed eitwinston's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:2006 02:51 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4345 02:52 "Magic cancellation is also different from intrinsic resistances against fire, cold, and shock damage. If you suffer fire damage while fire resistant, you won't be dealt hit point damage, but there is still a chance of items such as scrolls, spellbooks, and potions being destroyed. Magic cancellation on the other hand won't prevent the damage, but 02:52 it will reduce the probability of item-destroying effects occurring." 02:52 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Magic_cancellation#Differences_from_cancellation_and_magic_resistance 02:52 Pretty confusing but time and experience will make it less confusing 02:52 "knowing about magic cancellation on armor isnt something a beginner has to worry about" 02:53 Cool beans 02:53 Also it says right there the secondary effects of fire damage are affected by MC 02:53 Secondary effects from melee and shit: MC 02:53 [US] [D]: eitwinston (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 434 points, 865 turns, killed by a coyote 02:53 Actual honest-to-god magic spells: MR 02:53 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:4686 02:54 I feel I've offended you by saying it's confusing Umbire and I apologize 02:54 I'm not offended? 02:54 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:162407 02:54 [US] [D]: Bean (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 3637 points, 4191 turns, poisoned by a killer bee 02:54 [US] Staengia (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "foobar", on T:3454 02:54 I've said myself it's not intuitive, but at the same time the excerpt you posted should give a more straightforward idea 02:55 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:31670 02:56 Reflection prevents scrolls, scrollbooks, potions from being destroyed by fire rays. 02:56 Reflection also protects against wand of death. 02:56 -!- DobbyK has joined #tnnt 02:56 The freshman lesson is to get reflection. 02:56 -!- Kontroller has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:57 [US] [D]: richo (Val Hum Fem Law), 2849 points, 2414 turns, killed by a werewolf 02:58 [EU] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:5533 02:58 [US] [D]: Staengia (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 4583 points, 3713 turns, killed by a lynx 02:58 [US] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Umbire's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3149 02:59 -!- shadowcat has joined #tnnt 02:59 [US] [D]: LythariDrow (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 848 points, 1175 turns, killed by a giant ant, while praying 03:00 Hourly Stats at 2022-11-16 03:00 UTC: Games: 51, Asc: 0, Scum: 33. 63241 turns, 69242 points. (33%Wiz), 14d 20:59 remaining. 03:00 [EU] [D]: Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 4691 points, 6031 turns, killed by a soldier ant 03:01 [US] eitwinston (Pri Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:997 03:02 [US] tjw (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:33740 03:03 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:32079 03:03 [US] [D]: WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1840 points, 1766 turns, killed by a fire ant (and one other game not reported) 03:05 [US] [D]: quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 176 points, 831 turns, killed by a hobbit 03:06 [US] [D]: eitwinston (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1759 points, 1493 turns, killed by a kitten 03:07 [US] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an octagonal amulet on an altar, on T:3927 03:09 [US] [D]: WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 115 points, 416 turns, killed by a kobold zombie (and one other game not reported) 03:09 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 4628 points, 2559 turns, killed by a dwarf 03:09 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Pestilence (5 times), on T:162510 03:09 [US] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3981 03:11 [US] spazm (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed the DevTeam Quest, on T:32556 03:13 -!- Dhuend has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:13 [US] [D]: dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7014 points, 4286 turns, killed by a soldier ant 03:14 [US] [D]: bleeko (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1642 points, 1147 turns, killed by a hill orc (and 19 other games not reported) 03:17 What weapons should I use as a tourist? I have vorpal, magicbane, a spare longsword, a runed dagger. No sabers yet. Dagger at expert, longsword at basic, twoweapon at skilled, more than enough AC. 03:17 [US] [D]: WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 781 points, 1008 turns, killed by a bolt of fire (and 2 other games not reported) 03:17 unit327: sunsword 03:18 :D 03:18 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 03:18 seriously though magicbane 03:19 -!- blankman has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:19 [US] Furey (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Pestilence (10 times), on T:162606 03:19 The guardian Angel of Hermes swings his long sword at Pestilence. The guardian Angel of Hermes hits Pestilence. Pestilence is killed! 03:20 It's not even me any more, Pestilence is going downhill fast. 03:20 Thanks spazm. i guess I'd better find a saber for the offhand but for now i'll just put a runed dagger or longsword there. 03:21 unit327: magicbane for the MR, and throw darts or throw daggers. 03:21 -!- blankman has joined #tnnt 03:21 yeah i would use magicbane with your longsword in other hand. magicbane is great for absorbing curses 03:21 [AU] youngster (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:61606 03:21 I have MR cloak, but i could swap it our for a robe 03:21 The guardian Angel of Hermes hits Pestilence. Pestilence is killed! 03:21 More kill-stealing. 03:22 personally i would keep the MR cloak in case your weapon gets bullwhiped 03:22 <@Widmerpool-my-cat> Shout out for Vorpal 03:23 whats great about magicbane is almost any time a monster tries to curse your gear, it wont be able to 03:23 <@Widmerpool-my-cat> Tone’s YouTube Tourist had tons of fun with it— 03:23 <@TheYOUNGster> crazy, i went on this trapdoor on medusa to the castle, got half pummeled to death by the minotaur before i managed to pull out my saturday night special (FoD) and go up the stairs back to Medusa, and i instantly reflected her gaze as i stepped into the level, was intense 03:24 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4275 03:24 Furey: why dont you just tame pestilence 03:24 I will have mr from the cc soon enough as well. Vorpal does seem fun, and I already did a magicbane run with a wizard, have never mained vorpal. 03:24 spazm: gotta level drain it some more 03:24 vorpal is fun 03:24 <@TheYOUNGster> ^ 03:24 <@TheYOUNGster> gambling is fun 03:24 [US] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:570 03:25 [US] [D]: walkera (Val Hum Fem Neu), 3033 points, 4383 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 03:26 Although maybe I should just engrave with vorpal until it gets to -7 and go for the "actual actual perseus" achievement 03:26 spazm: i did this with stormbringer and got some lvl 1 rider pets, but then i kept bump-killing them and they would revive hostile 03:26 Furey, are you going to get the astral altar sacrifice gift achieve? 03:26 going for astral gift, yes 03:26 cool 03:27 that's why i'm taming two riders -- much easier to live while doing dozens of sacs 03:27 [US] [D]: LythariDrow (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 851 points, 2119 turns, killed by a dog 03:27 <@TheYOUNGster> btw Umbire i took ur advice, used mjollnir rather than grayswandir, it works better than grayswandir at this stage of the game 03:27 [US] bleeko (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) destroyed WizzyTheWeird's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1028 03:28