00:00 DAILY STATS AT 2021-11-18 00:00 UTC: Games: 286, Asc: 10, Scum: 53. 1202081 turns, 18842900 points. 13d 02:48 gametime. (19%Wiz), (56%Hum), (43%Neu), (68%Fem), 12d 23:59 remaining. 00:00 wtf is this shit should be our clan name next year 00:00 [US] efot (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered your The Cheat, her faithful kitten, on T:796 00:01 but it does look like 6 streak is the only remotely attainable trophy atm 00:01 [EU] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3654 00:01 <@Shadow_Rider> if you take it i will personally run 50 barbarians in order to win it back 00:02 no u 00:02 [US] [D]: efot (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 256 points, 1033 turns, zapped herself with a spell 00:02 -!- shadowcat has joined #tnnt 00:04 just realized that server lag is visible on ttyrecs 00:07 [US] hothraxxa (Ran Orc Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:26794 00:07 [US] [D]: disperse (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 346 points, 705 turns, killed by a hobbit 00:07 [US] [D]: Azoxey (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 6382 points, 5305 turns, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 00:07 hm n/m 00:08 [EU] [D]: p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2786 points, 4916 turns, killed by a wand, while helpless (and 6 other games not reported) 00:08 i wonder why ttyrec frame size from hdf is 192 bytes 00:09 [US] eitwinston (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:36957 00:09 [US] eitwinston (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:36960 00:10 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 10835 points, 8445 turns, killed by a fire ant, while praying (and one other game not reported) 00:10 <@malor> Shadow - Barbarian is always my goto when I need a win also ๐Ÿ™‚ 00:15 <@Shadow_Rider> ye my guess is barbarian is probably the most consistent 00:15 <@Shadow_Rider> no silly poison deaths 00:17 orcs! 00:20 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:28905 00:20 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28908 00:23 stenno\OK: our clan needs a serious pep talk, we're averaging 1.0 ascension/player 00:24 you _could_ join the clan channel 00:24 i can easily raise that asc/pl rate 00:24 by quitting :/ 00:24 (i will do at least 2.. probably 3) 00:24 [US] [D]: haldisse (Cav Hum Mal Law), 11518 points, 11941 turns, killed by a mumak 00:25 it's time to identify the problem 00:25 there is no problem really 00:25 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 00:25 [US] Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3456 00:26 even if we had 3 each we'd be first place right now 00:26 clan channels are soooooo good 00:26 and leave it running outside of tourneys too 00:26 build a cute lil community 00:26 i detect sarcasm 00:26 share pictures of cats and recipes 00:26 no i'm serious! 00:26 [US] [D]: nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1853 points, 1289 turns, killed by a giant spider 00:26 [US] [D]: disperse (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1152 points, 1539 turns, killed by a giant bat 00:27 we all play Dominion together to unwind from nethack 00:27 kinda a found-family sorta thing 00:27 anselmus\OK: what they want to emphasize is maybe that we should discuss this in our clan channel and not the public tourney channel :P 00:27 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1650 points, 3521 turns, killed by a giant mimic 00:27 3 x 9 = 27! 00:28 [US] [D]: PetraKelly (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1136 points, 1872 turns, killed by a hill orc, while fainted from lack of food 00:28 1 x 9 = 9! 00:28 10 x 9 = 90! 00:28 lol 00:28 [US] carr0t (Rog Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:47849 00:29 i want to get 10 00:29 first i wanted to get all roles but i have only ascended once yet 00:29 a bit behind schedule 00:29 [US] carr0t (Rog Hum Mal Cha) genocided class ;, on T:47850 00:30 we still have time to finish with honor 00:30 kinda enjoying my vacation more than expected 00:30 yes 00:30 we will honorably finish 00:32 like every time :P 00:32 [EU] [D]: p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 361 points, 1396 turns, killed by a kitten (and 16 other games not reported) 00:34 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:29455 00:35 [US] [D]: desertgreg (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 547903 points, 64003 turns, petrified by a chickatrice corpse 00:37 D: 00:37 $lastgame desertgreg 00:37 nabru: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/desertgreg/tnnt/dumplog/1636928052.tnnt.html 00:38 [EU] noims (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24982 00:41 [EU] [D]: p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 302 points, 1319 turns, killed by a water moccasin (and 14 other games not reported) 00:44 stenno\OK: lol btw what does "Maximum score rrga choices" means? 00:44 [US] [D]: PetraKelly (Sam Hum Fem Law), 550 points, 1453 turns, killed by a wand 00:45 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 987 points, 2656 turns, killed by a killer bee 00:46 "a" killer bee. 00:46 Sure. 00:46 [EU] [D]: p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 184 points, 448 turns, killed by a water moccasin (and 12 other games not reported) 00:47 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 00:49 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 133330 points, 35922 turns, killed by a death ray 00:49 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 204 points, 294 turns, killed by a gnome lord (and one other game not reported) 00:49 stenno\OK: also are you doing great dwarf? 00:50 [US] [D]: efot (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 985 points, 2217 turns, killed by a rabid rat 00:50 [US] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:7779 00:53 anselmus\OK: its the combination of role/race/alignment combos that gives a lot of trophies 00:53 it used to give maximum possible score for 13 games last tnnt 00:54 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:14501 00:55 at least i dont lose the robe 00:55 i guess i can do great valk hehe 00:56 had no mr but poly control is fine for traps 00:56 sucks though when your stats get rerolled and you lose 18+ str 00:59 -!- jmcunx has joined #tnnt 01:00 Hourly Stats at 2021-11-18 01:00 UTC: Games: 80, Asc: 0, Scum: 60. 2d 07:53 gametime. (40%Rog), 12d 22:59 remaining. 01:00 [EU] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 grayswandir", on T:1391 01:00 or 2 levels 01:00 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 947 points, 1053 turns, killed by a dwarf 01:01 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1469 points, 644 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted fire ant 01:02 [US] [D]: RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law), 11187 points, 8746 turns, killed by an energy vortex, while praying 01:03 [US] [D]: haldisse (Cav Hum Mal Law), 1803 points, 2724 turns, killed by an Uruk-hai 01:03 [US] [D]: disperse (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2921 points, 2431 turns, killed by a soldier ant 01:04 hehe i'm still a maxter mind flayer 01:04 master too 01:06 -!- shadowcat has quit [Quit: shadowcat] 01:06 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 01:07 [US] inlawBiker (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:22545 01:07 [US] [D]: efot (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 144 points, 1025 turns, killed by a coyote 01:12 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Val Dwa Fem Law), 629 points, 1475 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted homunculus 01:14 [US] [D]: haldisse (Cav Hum Mal Law), 448 points, 715 turns, killed by a large mimic 01:21 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzโ€ฆ] 01:24 [US] [D]: walkera (Val Hum Fem Law), 2258 points, 4761 turns, killed by a land mine 01:26 aosdict: another reason that part-time stoner maybe could be achieved when lifesaving against a fast stoning - while it all does happen in one turn, you do get all the usual messages, "you are slowing down" etc 01:26 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:31498 01:27 [US] [D]: PetraKelly (Sam Hum Fem Law), 605 points, 656 turns, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 01:31 [US] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3485 01:32 [US] disperse (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:3636 01:35 [US] Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a soldier ant corpse, on T:3546 01:36 [EU] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:6982 01:36 spicyChickatrice: i thought the achievement was 'survive stoning' or something that implied you don't die from it 01:36 [US] disperse (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Sting bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:4196 01:36 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 01:39 [EU] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:7753 01:40 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 497 points, 1878 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted homunculus 01:40 [US] disperse (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:4749 01:41 -!- Dhuend has joined #tnnt 01:41 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 boots of speed", on T:31538 01:42 oh, good point 01:42 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed ring of conflict", on T:31549 01:42 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:31551 01:44 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:8149 01:44 [US] inlawBiker (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:25538 01:44 [US] walkera (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Showumine's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:1773 01:46 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2417 points, 4667 turns, killed by a rothe 01:46 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Val Dwa Fem Law), 294 points, 549 turns, killed by a giant bat 01:47 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:31790 01:47 [US] eitbo (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5326 01:48 [EU] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:8975 01:51 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 227 points, 278 turns, killed by a dagger 01:53 we changed it to "Cure stoning" to clear that up 01:54 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2842 points, 4416 turns, killed by a rothe 01:55 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 201 points, 374 turns, killed by a boulder 01:55 [EU] noims (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:28190 01:56 [EU] noims (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:28191 02:00 Hourly Stats at 2021-11-18 02:00 UTC: Games: 16, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 36392 turns, 28889 points. (50%Law), 12d 21:59 remaining. 02:00 [US] inlawBiker (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:26145 02:00 [US] inlawBiker (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:26146 02:00 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 199 points, 644 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 02:04 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:15075 02:04 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed fixed magic marker", on T:32310 02:04 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 416 points, 1004 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dwarf 02:10 -!- Noims79 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:13 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 6 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32722 02:16 [US] allanb (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:31665 02:16 <@malor> Question: I have Expert dagger as a Ranger -> if engaged in melee should I THROW +0 DAGGERS or attack with my +1 DAGGER? 02:19 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 583 points, 1323 turns, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:20 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 537 points, 1450 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted homunculus 02:21 [EU] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11231 02:21 I think with multishot you have a higher expected amount of damage throwing 02:22 the damage bonus from Expert will overwhelm the difference between +0 and +1 02:22 <@malor> thanks aosdict. 02:23 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 146 points, 153 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted newt, while sleeping 02:24 rld also consider that throwing has the advantage of avoiding close combat with enemies 02:24 I assumed it was throwing at point blank range since malor said "engaged in melee" 02:25 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:33732 02:25 aosdict oh thats right, I didnt noticed the engaged in melee part 02:25 -!- Kontroller has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:27 -!- Kontroll1r has joined #tnnt 02:28 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 2 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33889 02:29 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 346 points, 848 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 02:31 Dhuend: "rld" is just the bridge between this and the roguelikes Discord. 02:32 You wanna ping someone on the other side... well good luck with that actually, but just mentioning their name should make the message easy to pick out. 02:32 <@malor> yeah, I don't want them to get close, but my tactics are poor to horrible :). So they often get close. Also I don't have a light source so they just appear a step away a lot of time also ๐Ÿ™‚ I have been trying to be cautious about keeping some daggers IN RESERVE in case more nasties appear as my combat prowess drops considerably when I don't have the option to fire daggers ๐Ÿ™‚ Also, I left my bow and arrows in the dwarven mines as they were heavy and I 02:32 wasn't using them and with my 25 ST I think the daggers are more effective anyway. 02:32 <@malor> I annotated the level where they are should I change my mind ๐Ÿ™‚ 02:33 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:6981 02:34 with gop i'd just go with a mattock 02:34 (and bow for range attack) 02:36 <@malor> will brown pudding erode my daggers? 02:37 no 02:37 -!- stenno\OK has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.2] 02:37 i think that black pudding corrodes things, brown pudding just rots cloth? 02:37 <@malor> ok, thanks. 02:38 Black puddings corrode iron/copper, brown puddings just rot cloth/leather 02:38 (brown puddings also don't do any damage) 02:40 -!- jmcunx has left #tnnt 02:45 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1300 points, 1544 turns, killed by a gnome lord 02:49 <@malor> anselmus\OK - I have a shield of reflection so I need to go one handed. 02:49 [US] carr0t (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:49271 02:50 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:59698 02:52 HEY you got my shield! 02:52 that's fabulous 02:53 it's more fun when people in chat get the things; then you can track their progress, like a sport team to root for or a delivery of tom yum soup that you hope arrives on time 02:53 idk what tom yum is but if there's meat in it im down 02:54 you, an irc person, need that much protein? 02:54 [x] doubt 02:54 <@malor> thanks spicycat! 02:55 i got a lotta use out of that shield, some truly nasty magic missile rebounds on unsuspecting monsters that were up against a wall 02:55 but i wanted to dual wield so i had to move on 02:56 got over it chugged a fat glass of milk 02:56 [US] inlawBiker (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:26792 02:56 on a liquid diet tonight apparently 02:56 <@malor> my gear is really good, I have gauntlets of power, dwarven mithral coat, cloak of displacement, and now the shield of reflection thanks to you. I have "wand of speed monster" speed too, so I'm pretty decent. But my max hp is really low, so I can still die to very little ๐Ÿ™‚ 02:56 i assume you'll nurse dance as soon as you can? 02:57 you gotta get that shield to astral for me! 02:57 <@malor> Definitely if I get genocide, although I like to geno "c" first so I can't randomly die during the process. 02:57 interesting 02:58 <@malor> I have found the spawn rate in sokoban to be REALLY high. Like I generally have an encounter every 4 boulders. And when I nurse danced last game, I was interrupted by montster spawns several times in the first dance and zero times in the second. 02:59 <@malor> I probably play too cautiously such that my power level actually decreases honestly. 03:00 oh, also in the gifty world: a gdsm that kougyoku gave to me, then got passed to shadowrider 03:00 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:00 maybe he threw it back in again, idk 03:01 no one will know, the letters fly by too quickly 03:01 so all you have to do to get all this stuff is visit minesend? 03:01 i took a gray dragon scale from k2 and put one back in and he took it 03:01 all is balanced 03:01 i never have to play again 03:01 [US] allanb (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:34787 03:02 he freed you! 03:02 anselmus\OK: supply varies, but yes 03:02 there's usually something good in there 03:02 i like throwing in one obviously-good thing and one quirky, like a hooa or silver saber 03:02 <@malor> the silver/gray dragon armors go pretty fast of course ๐Ÿ˜‰ 03:03 where is the chest exactly? 03:03 <@malor> does a unicorn horn cure food poisoning? 03:03 yes it does 03:03 <@malor> near the fountain on mines end. 03:03 [US] allanb (Sam Hum Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:34794 03:03 depends on the mine end. but if u get there ppl in chat can help you 03:03 [US] allanb (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:34794 03:03 wait do all minesends have fountains? 03:03 sounds awesome 03:04 [US] allanb (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:34795 03:04 swap chest allows ebegging 03:04 <@malor> I killed an elf through a boulder and I didn't know if it was a zombie elf or not. It was a zombie ๐Ÿ™‚ But I had a unicorn horn ๐Ÿ™‚ 03:04 yikes~ 03:04 my current run has involved intentionally eating a lot of zombie corpses 03:04 and somehow none of them have been food pois 03:04 [US] [D]: PetraKelly (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1324 points, 2053 turns, killed by a kobold mummy, while reading a book 03:05 my amulet of reflection just bounced a death ray. Thanks sokoban. 03:05 <@malor> Well eating an elf is normally excellent of course so since I had the horn it was well worth the chance ๐Ÿ™‚ 03:06 frequent log outs = enforced thinking break? 03:06 <@malor> Reflection is really important in vanilla. Not like dnh where it is both nerfed and useless anyway ๐Ÿ™‚ 03:07 i have a shield of reflection 03:07 from perseus 03:07 [US] anselmus (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:5554 03:07 <@malor> Me? Oh I run a lot of things at once and whenever I go to something else I log out to ensure I donโ€™t alt-tab into the window and hit a random key causing me to die or something ๐Ÿ™‚ Also I am now done for the night 03:08 I am at dungeon level 18 and just found a bag of holding. Was cursing sokoban for not giving me a bag of holding, but now I'm very happy with my reflection amulet 03:10 Dhuend: sometimes it works out :) 03:11 <@malor> Reflection or MR are vital to not insta-death dying. So you got the better choice unless you already had MR. 03:12 [US] inlawBiker (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:27964 03:12 [US] inlawBiker (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27966 03:12 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12764 03:15 [US] [D]: efot (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 659 points, 1772 turns, killed by a human mummy called PetraKelly 03:16 [US] [D]: Qwesti (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4742 points, 6245 turns, killed by a mumak 03:17 good night guys, going to sleep 03:17 -!- Dhuend has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:18 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1499 points, 2411 turns, killed by a giant bat 03:22 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 70 points, 283 turns, killed by a small mimic 03:23 [US] allanb (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:35278 03:24 [US] [D]: efot (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 184 points, 1712 turns, killed by a dwarf 03:29 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 198 points, 1072 turns, killed by a coyote, while praying 03:31 [US] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:6060 03:32 [US] disperse (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:13778 03:33 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1237 points, 1843 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted blue jelly 03:36 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 250 points, 580 turns, killed by a gnome lord 03:36 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 03:39 [US] BilldaCat (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:31623 03:39 [US] [D]: Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 2823 points, 6964 turns, killed by a watch captain 03:40 -!- cathartes has joined #tnnt 03:40 someone is in a real bind in #nethack, surrounded by monsters, blind, doesn't have ESP, their bag of holding was cursed, all artifacts stolen by rodney 03:40 https://imgur.com/uQfIT9M.png 03:40 they have a scroll of earth and a scroll of taming. which one should they read? 03:40 [US] [D]: arnibald (Arc Hum Mal Law), 765 points, 1819 turns, poisoned by an orcish arrow 03:41 <@Shadow_Rider> yikes well drink the full healing first 03:41 also they have teleportation, they were going to try to confused teleport out of the level but the only way to become confused is to cast a forgotten spell, so it would help if they have some breathing room 03:41 they drank the full healing 03:41 they drank full healing already shadow_rider, you can spectate on NAO 03:41 name is Itadez 03:41 update https://imgur.com/JDxpOZZ.png 03:41 -!- Itadez has joined #tnnt 03:41 <@Shadow_Rider> oh ok 03:41 <@Shadow_Rider> rrag? 03:42 what does rrag mean 03:42 ohai 03:42 <@Shadow_Rider> hello 03:42 <@Shadow_Rider> race role alignment gender 03:42 should have asked for a/s/l instead 03:43 14 f nyc btw 03:43 Dwarf Valkyrie Lawful Female 03:43 <@Shadow_Rider> okie 03:43 <@Shadow_Rider> what happened to orb of fate? 03:43 Nobody who's only 14 knows what a/s/l is. 03:43 rodney stole it. he took everything 03:43 Reincarnated Rodney 03:43 <@Shadow_Rider> okay 03:43 Itadez: doesn't have see invisible or esp, and without the orb he lost warning 03:44 * anselmus\OK was about to make a visit to the swap chest TT 03:44 so rodney has been turning invisible and bopping around with abandon 03:44 <@Shadow_Rider> yeesh my terminal is tiny i cant see anything 03:44 i'm guessing it will soon be empty 03:44 he's on this level now 03:44 I must've lost Telepathy to a Disenchanter somewhere along the way. 03:44 <@Shadow_Rider> gotta uncurse the bag and get stuff 03:44 <@Shadow_Rider> death wand empty? 03:44 Unsure. 03:45 oh good call shadow. you can zap cancel down at the bag 03:45 > 03:45 oh yeah, nice 03:45 <@Shadow_Rider> got that one charge left 03:45 it won't hit you 03:45 <@Shadow_Rider> got that one charge left 03:45 omg 03:45 just DO NOT zap it and press . cuz that'll hit YOU 03:45 zap cancel at my bag via '>' direction? 03:45 <@Shadow_Rider> yes 03:45 and that uncurses it ya 03:46 hilarious how those are on the same key 03:46 chefs kiss for ruinous typos 03:46 awesome, that's a big improvement 03:46 thx shadoo 03:46 <@Shadow_Rider> im guessing rodney is invis? 03:46 Good call! 03:46 yeah he has been invisible 03:46 <@Shadow_Rider> glad to help this is exciting 03:47 <@Shadow_Rider> so death wand is how you would want to kill him 03:47 <@Shadow_Rider> tricky part is going to be figuring out how to do that 03:47 there's a wand of wishing in there :O 03:47 Yes, there is. 03:47 https://imgur.com/6RdCcNW.png 03:48 <@Shadow_Rider> 0:2 lmao 03:48 shadow_rider: this is itadez's first ascension run so it's especially tense 03:48 this new development will SHOCK you 03:48 <@Shadow_Rider> i mean thats essentially 6 wishes 03:49 Ita is sittin on a pile of genies! 03:49 [US] [D]: Leggman (Arc Hum Mal Law), 202 points, 695 turns, killed by a gnome 03:49 levelport out to do some wishery? 03:49 is this on the way up? Rodney with AoY? 03:49 Yes 03:49 <@Shadow_Rider> so heres the thing 03:49 I don't even need to wish for a scroll of charging.ย  ;-) 03:49 <@Shadow_Rider> if you successfully get off the level and come back it will be significantly easier to tell whats rodney 03:50 <@Shadow_Rider> itll hoppefully be the only thing attacking you 03:50 so for the first step cast forgotten spells, get confused, and read teleport? 03:50 <@Shadow_Rider> then youd be in the clear 03:50 Hell, if I get off this level, is there any way to wish for "floating eye that's gonna leave a corpse"? 03:50 just with for "floating eye corpse" if that's what you want 03:50 well, you can wish for floating eye corpse directly :) 03:50 you can wish for corpses in wizmode. in regular mode i think you have to revgeno 03:50 oh, nvm 03:51 Would that be worthwhile doing now? 03:51 <@Shadow_Rider> i dunno if thats really necessary but youve got so many resources 03:51 might as well wish for helm of telepathy instead 03:51 is the first step to try to get off the level? 03:51 <@Shadow_Rider> yes get off the level 03:51 <@Shadow_Rider> you will probably have to do that eventually 03:52 <@Shadow_Rider> hmm wait can you get sent back into gehennom 03:52 Can't move west/left 03:52 <@Shadow_Rider> that would not be ideal 03:52 <@Shadow_Rider> you want to levelport out 03:52 well levelport here should be either anywhere in normal dungeon, OR up to 3 levels deep in Geh 03:52 and odds are on porting upwards 03:52 afaik 03:53 <@Shadow_Rider> i thought it was based on furthest explored 03:53 Oh, bastard took my Bell so I can't invoke either. 03:53 <@Shadow_Rider> anyways i forget do you have a forgotten spell? 03:53 4 of 'em 03:53 <@Shadow_Rider> ok good 03:53 <@Shadow_Rider> try to use one of them and get confused 03:53 <@Shadow_Rider> then you read the scroll of teleportation 03:53 Confused: done 03:54 spicyChickatrice is right I think 03:54 Whee! 03:54 <@Shadow_Rider> yay 03:54 <@Shadow_Rider> wait is this gehennom or above ccastle 03:54 external telepathy is somewhat better than corpse telepathy; my vote is +2 blessed greased fixed Helm of telepathy, not a corpse 03:54 did that go up or down lol 03:54 Above 03:54 <@Shadow_Rider> awesome 03:54 nice 03:55 Valley is 27.ย  I went up 3 03:55 so where would the swap chest be on the mimic of the mines level? 03:55 <@Shadow_Rider> helm of telepathy seems good here 03:55 anselmus\OK: lower right 03:55 if you don't see it, keep going 03:55 <@Shadow_Rider> if you can identify the death wands that would help out a bunch too 03:55 <@Shadow_Rider> you are in a much better spot now :) 03:56 [US] disperse (Rog Hum Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:15840 03:56 `blessed greased fixed +3 helm of telepathy` ? 03:56 welcome the autonomous rodney free zone 03:56 beware of minotaurs and enjoy your wishes 03:56 *to 03:56 <@Shadow_Rider> yes 03:56 <@Shadow_Rider> that is the right wish 03:57 spicyChickatrice: ty found it 03:57 do these wishes on the stairs, imo, that way you can go up in the unlikely event you need to flee something 03:58 <@Shadow_Rider> what would they need to wish for at this point 03:58 you're still pretty stacked despite loss of artis *shruggy* 03:58 <@Shadow_Rider> i think you can just hold onto them for now 03:58 <@Shadow_Rider> if you don't have magic markers you might want some of those 03:58 [US] [D]: efot (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1709 points, 1945 turns, killed by a wererat 03:58 shadow: more wands of death? 03:58 cursed geno? 03:58 <@Shadow_Rider> two is plenty 03:58 shield of reflection, so they can equip their AoLS 03:58 <@Shadow_Rider> you want to identify them if possible tho 03:59 <@Shadow_Rider> oh shield is a good idea 03:59 Why do I need Shield of Reflection if I have the Amulet? 03:59 Aside from the fact that my current shield is "thoroughly burnt"? 03:59 shield -> now you can take off reflect amulet -> put on lifesaving amulet -> get out of one death free 04:00 Hourly Stats at 2021-11-18 04:00 UTC: Games: 14, Asc: 0, Scum: 1. 0d 09:16 gametime. (46%Hum), 12d 19:59 remaining. 04:00 if you happen to accidentally die 04:00 <@Shadow_Rider> being able to wear lifesaving is good if this is your first time 04:00 which many people do! 04:00 That logic makes sense. 04:00 do you have blessedremove curse in there? 04:00 <@Shadow_Rider> honetly theres not much else you would need to wish for so you may as well 04:00 your AC will go down but one extra life is worth way more than a bit of AC 04:01 and you can wish for markers to write enchant armor if you really want the AC back 04:01 <@Shadow_Rider> what scrolls do you have in the bag? 04:01 I have a 0:67 marker 04:01 <@Shadow_Rider> oh you chilling 04:01 hope you don't mind momma and shadow chickatrice backseating you lol >_< 04:01 stop us if we're overdoing it 04:01 <@Shadow_Rider> holy f you have nice stuff 04:02 The RNG has been nice to me this game, for sure. 04:02 I think I found my first Wand of Wishing before Dlvl 10 04:02 snazzy 04:03 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +2 Mjollnir", on T:61394 04:04 well, next wish is shield of reflection imo. and, as needed, bless or write remove curse so that you can take off your other shield and swap amulets 04:04 [US] disperse (Rog Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Kos, on T:18218 04:04 oh, i think if you bless that see invis pot, you get perma see invis 04:05 <@Shadow_Rider> that is true 04:05 Bless that see invis potion, quaff it, and it's intrinsic? 04:05 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 mjollnir", on T:61415 04:05 <@Shadow_Rider> yes 04:05 yup 04:06 lol 04:06 FML, another wish? 04:06 <@Shadow_Rider> lmao 04:06 <@Shadow_Rider> okay 04:06 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3124 points, 2936 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hell hound 04:06 `blessed greased fixed +3 shield of reflection` ? 04:07 <@Shadow_Rider> looks good 04:07 <@Shadow_Rider> i think you are doing well now so ill lurk 04:07 <@Shadow_Rider> lmk if anything exciting happens 04:10 blessed remove curse can uncurse all your stuff at once 04:11 Alright, it's been a minute. 04:11 How do I write this scroll? 04:12 'a'pply the marker to the scroll? 04:12 yeah 04:12 The 'blessed unlabeled scroll' of course 04:12 oh, read it first 04:12 activate marker, choose scroll, write "remove curse". if you don't have that scroll identified, 67% chance to fail 04:12 the 'unlabeled' scroll 04:12 that will id it as blank so it will show up in the list as something you can write on 04:13 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 3747 points, 2428 turns, killed by a salamander 04:13 it's not 100% necessary if you already started 04:13 it's just the difference between 'what do you want to write on? [*]' and 'what do you want to write on? [x or ?*]' 04:14 <@Shadow_Rider> pfft a ring of see invisible 04:15 oh nice you can ID the wands of death 04:15 lookslike you're gonn a be ok :) 04:15 yeah, seems like you've got a good setup Itadez 04:15 you will knock rodney dead and reclaim what's rightfully yours 04:15 <@Shadow_Rider> nice thing is rodney will not come back because he has the amulet rn 04:16 he thinks he's safe. that he won. how wrong he is 04:16 i guess rodney didn't read enough spoilers 04:16 doesn't know how to ascend 04:16 just wants amulet cuz it looks cool 04:17 5 death charges 04:17 [US] allanb (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:38573 04:17 <@Shadow_Rider> death wand is pretty much how youd always want to kill rodney 04:17 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 59 points, 371 turns, killed by a newt 04:17 spicyChickatrice: he remembers the days when he had the amulet all the time, before 3.1.0. the glory days 04:17 [US] flyerfly (Cav Gno Fem Neu) murdered Slasher, her faithful little dog, on T:36 04:17 Yay Dudley award! 04:18 he just wants to go back to a happier time, who can blame him 04:18 <@Shadow_Rider> otherwise you get in bad situations 04:18 [US] allanb (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38578 04:18 i can sympathize 04:18 Itadez: you could write some charging, for a future where your death wands, wish wand, or magic marker need a topup 04:19 you can do a lotta things ^_^ 04:19 spicyChickatrice: I have one in bag. 04:19 so much loot in there! 04:19 you can definitely make all the way 04:19 <@Shadow_Rider> wow theres way more people that play on alt.org than i thought 04:19 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Val Hum Fem Law), 188 points, 495 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted kobold zombie 04:19 [US] [D]: flyerfly (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 96 points, 365 turns, killed by a newt 04:19 <@Shadow_Rider> its pretty popular 04:20 nao: it's like a flip phone 04:20 Here.ย  We.ย  Go. 04:20 yeah, it's been around forever, I feel like it's basically the default nethack public server 04:20 [US] disperse (Rog Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:20101 04:20 if you don't need more features, why replace your phone? 04:20 good luck Itadez! 04:21 <@Shadow_Rider> gottem sorta 04:21 MF, he came right back! 04:21 there were 2 wizards 04:21 <@Shadow_Rider> looks like double troubled 04:21 he can clone himself 04:21 he must have done it while you were fighting him before 04:21 <@Shadow_Rider> ez 04:21 woohoo 04:22 I should eat his corpse out of spite. 04:22 I would tin him as a trophy. 04:22 rofl 04:22 lol, actually doesn't his corpse give teleport control or something 04:23 some useful/rare intrinsic 04:23 the forbidden intrinsic for non-cannibals 04:25 pfff, non-cannibals 04:26 after 40k turns everything's hallucinogen distorted anyways 04:26 why is max HP perpetually red? 04:26 Mine?ย  I think I colored it that way. 04:26 Easier to distinguish from current hp, which perpetually changes. 04:27 that makes sense, I was wondering if it was something like 'I want to make sure I get to 300 maxHP, so color anything under that red' 04:27 Nope.ย  My .rc file always says "dwa val fem" 04:27 I'll never get to 300. 04:28 so many spare wishes, you could really fill up that swap chest 04:28 Wossa swap chest? 04:28 it's a special thing on the current nethack tournament on Hardfought.org 04:28 tnnt thing 04:28 you put in stuff and other people can take it 04:28 oh gotcha 04:29 yeah it's like a shared chest, it's fun 04:29 Too bad I'm not on HF.org 04:29 only during november so, it's not a normal part of the experience 04:29 you can always play some once you've ascended this character :) 04:31 -!- Guest4426 has joined #tnnt 04:32 what happens if a gremlin steals intrinsic protection from you? 04:32 next time you buy prot, you get your old prot back 04:32 plus 1 04:32 i see 04:33 a gremlin stole Itadez's protection earlier 04:33 Well, earlier I probably created the most epic bones file ever made:-( ย  Lvl 20 tourist fully decked out with ascension armor and weapons and two wands of wishing and 2 magic lamps among a ton of other stuff...ย  Forgot To put my armor back on after doing a bunch of fireproofing and picked up a chickatrice corpse - on LVL 3 :-O 04:33 Guest4426: ohh no 04:33 i was wondering/suspecting that gremlin got some hits in 04:34 did Itadez buy more prot in that temple? 04:34 well, at -24 it's not that needed anyways 04:34 I have bought protection twice 04:34 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 666 points, 1302 turns, killed by a small mimic (and 2 other games not reported) 04:34 OK, folks.ย  I appreciate all your help.ย  But it's 22:34 localtime, and I'm at the up-stair from level 1.ย  I think I'm gonna call it a night. 04:35 grats on your miraculous recovery! 04:35 <@Shadow_Rider> good luck on your run! 04:35 who knew a wand of cancellation would SAVE your boh instead of wreck it? 04:35 good luck! come back on IRC when you are going into the planes so we can cheer you on 04:35 spicyChickatrice: very true lol 04:35 <@Shadow_Rider> Also I suspect itadez committed murder at some point 04:35 <@Shadow_Rider> Lost telepathy and protection 04:35 Did cancellation un-curse the bag? 04:36 shadow_rider but the gremlin stole protection from him, I saw it 04:36 yeh 04:36 Guest4426 Yes.ย  Yes it did. 04:36 <@Shadow_Rider> Oh okie 04:36 it said "You feel vulnerable", which I think is protection loss 04:36 thats good to know! 04:36 be real careful where you point that thing 04:36 well, I just looked it up, so it's not "i think is protection loss" so much as "i think it said that" 04:36 <@Shadow_Rider> You can get it all back with one purchase iirc 04:36 but you can zap floor items to uuncurse them 04:36 <@Shadow_Rider> Oh lol 04:37 but i remembered 'vulnerable' so i'm pretty sure 04:37 So tomorrow morning, I go "<" from here and I've then reached the final 5 or 6 levels of the game? 04:37 yeah Itadez that 04:37 is right 04:37 Itadez: I would remember to get out your other death wand before entering the planes, because it might take more than 1 charge to kill Rodney. 04:37 fyeah 04:37 you'll arise, buried in earth, only to claw your way upwards into the light 04:37 <@Shadow_Rider> The classic murder is zapping death at the high priest from outside the chamber 04:37 so you're basically a zombie, sorrry :( 04:37 "Your other death wand."ย  I love it. 04:38 <@Shadow_Rider> Also are we gonna tell itadez about the bugle 04:38 idk 04:38 Tomorrow, you will. 04:38 depends how much backseating they want 04:38 what about the bugle? that bug in 3.7? or just musical instruments generally? 04:38 it's good to see one there. 04:39 Adios y'all.ย  Thanks again. 04:39 <@Shadow_Rider> I saw both a tooled horn and a bugle 04:39 good night Itadez 04:39 <@Shadow_Rider> gn 04:39 <@Shadow_Rider> Itโ€™s the bug qt 04:39 <@Shadow_Rider> Itโ€™s fixed in 3.7 now but Iโ€™ve been abusing the hell out of it for tnnt 04:39 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 3197 points, 1354 turns, killed by a soldier ant, while praying 04:40 -!- Itadez has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:41 hmm I should get a bugle 04:41 lol 04:41 the bug is for all tonal instruments right 04:41 just bugles specifically 04:41 ! 04:41 <@Shadow_Rider> Indeed 04:41 <@Shadow_Rider> Thatโ€™s why they are so awesome 04:42 there was code added to make monsters unaffected my scare monster immune to musical instrument scaring too 04:42 :\ i just traded my bugle "up" to a tooled horn 04:42 but basically it was applied to every instrument except bugles 04:42 lol 04:42 toottoot 04:42 motherfucker 04:42 bc bugles use a different function, for some reason 04:42 the code is like 99% identical except the bugle also riles up soldiers 04:42 sorry mario, but your bugle is in a different function 04:43 they should be merged into one function that has a 'rile_up_soldiers' boolean parameter or something imo 04:43 right 04:43 this explains clanmate's obsessions with bugles 04:44 <@Shadow_Rider> Maybe priests and angels are afraid of bugles for some religious reasons 04:44 i thought it was scaring tools across the board and bugles just happen to be sillier 04:44 [US] eitbrad (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:40327 04:45 shadow_rider: they're probably afraid they are the seven trumpets of Revelation 04:45 has anyone met the eit's? 04:47 as in seen them on irc? not this year that I recall 04:47 iirc eit_someone was on last year at some point 04:47 <@Shadow_Rider> Iโ€™ve congratulated at least one or two of the this year 04:47 <@Shadow_Rider> They seem like veteran players 04:48 <@Shadow_Rider> Maybe we should coordinate our usernames too :D 04:48 i feel like eit might date back to devnull? i could be wrong but it rings a bell 04:48 much like its members keep ringing the bell of opening for the invocation ritual 04:53 [US] eitbrad (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:40380 04:53 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 04:54 yeah the eit's are definitely OGs of some kind 04:54 kinda mysterious how they show up for tourneys and then vanish 04:54 they must have a good clan channel or smth 04:54 no need to chat here! 04:55 neat to hear that they've been spotted tho 04:55 qt: http://claneit.org/members.html 04:56 do they date back to devnull Tangles? 04:56 No idea how old that page is, but the styling sort of dates it to the late 90's/early 2000s. 04:56 yeah it does look that way 04:56 i guess could check on archive.org to see how far back it goes 04:56 But yeah they were definitely around when I started playing devnull. Probably for way longer. 04:56 There's even a photo of eit_brad on there :) 04:57 so he must be one of the originals. 04:58 Clan EIT used to do an alternative scoreboard for devnull with silly categories like "most deaths by stoning" etc. 04:58 archive.org has the site back to 2004 04:59 [US] [A]: eitbrad (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 2330602 points, 40402 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eitbrad/tnnt/dumplog/1636578153.tnnt.html 04:59 speak of the devil 04:59 http://claneit.org/oldnews.html 04:59 That page has the clan forming on 2002-10-31 04:59 neato 04:59 OG as heck 04:59 and indeed eit_brad ascending on 2002-11-06 05:00 http://claneit.org/cyrus_bones.gif 05:00 lol 05:01 haha 05:01 <@riker> that website has such a powerful energy to it 05:03 ah there's areference to the clan EIT scoreboard on nethackwiki - it points to gunyoki.net, but sadly it is dead. 05:05 <@riker> https://web.archive.org/web/20120103224522/http://gunyoki.net/ 05:06 stenno is on there 05:07 gunyoki.net was the better alternative to devnull.net 05:07 it was the clan eit elite scoreboard 05:07 <@riker> oh was it just the superior scoreboard overall? neat 05:08 huh, berry sure was somethin 05:08 check out stenno with the 12k asc! 05:08 lul 05:09 yeah stenno that fastest turncount board was _yours_ 05:09 well, you shared it with ishanyx 05:10 our clan kicked ass 05:10 its 2011 so that is the precursor of team splat 05:11 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2973 points, 1987 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dwarf king, while fainted from lack of food 05:12 clan not so bad at this 05:13 those photos on the eit site are great 05:14 https://web.archive.org/web/20131225163307/http://gunyoki.net/ 05:14 aa bit more extreme regarding realtime/gametime :P 05:15 9223372036854775807 points 05:15 <@Shadow_Rider> whoa you were faster than adeon 05:16 berry with the casual 64 bit maxint 05:17 adeon could have won if he wanted to 05:17 to be fair those are not really impressive numbers 05:17 gametime is usuallt 3-4k and realtime nowadays is like 1h-1h39 05:17 1h30* 05:18 <@Shadow_Rider> lmfao "best behaved ascension" 05:18 qb with the full monty 05:18 Hi rider 05:18 How you been. 05:18 <@Shadow_Rider> hi umbire 05:18 both spontiff _and_ yeti in the minscore battle 05:19 <@Shadow_Rider> im doing well going home for thanksgiving soon 05:19 the best i ever got in devnull was the lead star 05:19 maybe not even that lol 05:19 How're you doing gameiwse. 05:19 was there one worse than that? 05:19 <@Shadow_Rider> i have no games going right now 05:20 <@Shadow_Rider> but they have been fun 05:20 berry grand slam wbo all 64-bit maxint 05:20 <@Shadow_Rider> swap chest makes everything fun and easy 05:20 -!- spicyChickatrice has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:20 <@Shadow_Rider> is full monty/grand slam all in 13 games? 05:21 yeah 05:21 <@Shadow_Rider> wowo 05:21 probably did it with gold duping + antigold 05:21 <@Shadow_Rider> i wonder how many people have done full monty 05:21 its on the wiki 05:22 At least five players achieved this trophy: Marvin (with bells on) in 2007, maud and nuslayer (without bells) in 2009, qp (without bells) in 2012, and Tariru (without bells) in 2017. 05:22 <@Shadow_Rider> marvin is the only one who did it in 13 if i read that right 05:22 where are the records for lead star 05:23 @Shadow_Rider correct 05:23 <@Shadow_Rider> new lofty goal acquired 05:23 that is why i got excited when i rolled the archon hehe 05:24 nethack.devnull.net completely blocked from the wayback machine 05:24 'classic' full monty only has the 3.4.3 conducts in it 05:24 (naturally) 05:24 <@Shadow_Rider> is there a list of those somewhere 05:24 <@Shadow_Rider> ah i see it 05:25 <@Shadow_Rider> minus blind and nudist 05:25 yep 05:25 <@Shadow_Rider> how can you even expect to do foodless 05:26 maybe i got the plastic star rather than the lead star 05:26 <@Shadow_Rider> or is that the one you scum for to start 05:26 there are a few tricks 05:26 no, its possible without scumming 05:26 so you can pray for food, and polyself into own race resets nutrition 05:26 also getting life saved resets nutrition 05:26 <@Shadow_Rider> :/ well yes 05:27 so having hungerless spellcasting is usually enough 05:27 but first wish is =oSD in any case 05:27 <@Shadow_Rider> maybe im just not good enough to see how its reasonable to do in a streak 05:27 you are probably scumming for paci 05:27 <@Shadow_Rider> really? 05:28 <@Shadow_Rider> to me it would seem like paci is easier to win with thatn food 05:28 <@Shadow_Rider> prayer is like the only thing you can do early 05:28 if you get pw:4 you cannot pray early because you don't get alignment as neutral gnomish healer 05:28 with pw:5 you can heal your pet for alignment 05:29 also a lot of terrible things might happen to your pet :P 05:29 <@Shadow_Rider> fair 05:29 foodless should be possible under normal circumstances even if your first wish is at the castle 05:30 he said without having won foodless himself 05:30 <@Shadow_Rider> :) 05:38 [EU] joo (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:29657 05:48 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 289 points, 638 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted little dog 05:49 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34678 05:49 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:34680 05:57 [US] anselmus (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:8190 06:00 Current Day as of 2021-11-18 06:00 UTC: Games: 130, Asc: 1, Scum: 63. 278832 turns, 3117135 points. 3d 21:53 gametime. (28%Wiz), (58%Hum), (51%Cha), (73%Fem), 12d 17:59 remaining. 06:07 Umbire: wow you italicized zork really fast 06:07 2 minutes ain't that fast 06:09 [US] ptomato (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:57590 06:18 [US] [D]: miller (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 3695 points, 7376 turns, killed by a gray unicorn 06:20 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:35528 06:21 [US] anselmus (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:8557 06:22 [US] anselmus (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +1 speed boots", on T:8558 06:23 [US] anselmus (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:8559 06:24 [US] anselmus (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed eye of the aethiopica", on T:8565 06:28 [US] allanb (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:39912 06:38 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:41 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzโ€ฆ] 06:41 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 06:45 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7077 06:55 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:59 [US] ptomato (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:60156 07:00 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 107 points, 519 turns, killed by a boulder 07:02 [US] fadein (Bar Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7515 07:06 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 555 points, 1774 turns, killed by an iguana 07:07 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 125 points, 518 turns, killed by a fox 07:08 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5396 points, 3270 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted owlbear 07:14 [US] [Q]: Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 2205 points, 31235 turns, quit 07:14 copyright 1979-2011 eit_krog. this data updates every ten minutes. go kill things 07:20 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 419 points, 475 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant bat 07:24 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 07:29 [US] [D]: Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 331 points, 1397 turns, killed by a cave spider, while praying 07:29 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 239 points, 778 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gnome lord 07:32 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 07:43 -!- anselmus\OK has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:47 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 189 points, 1276 turns, killed by a gnome 07:51 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 277 points, 519 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 07:54 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:3807 07:57 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 223 points, 385 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hobbit, while sleeping off a magical draught (and one other game not reported) 07:57 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4628 08:00 Hourly Stats at 2021-11-18 08:00 UTC: Games: 12, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 42180 turns, 10119 points. (50%Wiz), 12d 15:59 remaining. 08:00 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 924 points, 5218 turns, killed by a wand 08:01 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 08:01 [US] [D]: Menche (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 256 points, 1438 turns, killed by overexertion 08:01 I'd probably have killed that foocubus if my pet hadn't kept stepping in the line of fire 08:03 -!- amateurhour has joined #tnnt 08:04 I think playing as a ranged role I find the pet more of a liability than an asset 08:10 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 676 points, 1631 turns, killed by a sewer rat 08:15 Menchers how did you get a succubus that early in the game? 08:15 I suspect a sink 08:16 sink 08:17 ah 08:17 [EU] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:2893 08:18 still, nice unique death 08:22 [EU] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3043 08:30 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2952 points, 3556 turns, killed by a soldier ant 08:31 -!- jannis has quit [Quit: Bye.] 08:32 -!- Xjs has joined #tnnt 08:34 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1105 points, 1803 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant ant 08:42 [AU] [D]: Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 340 points, 1134 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant mimic 08:47 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 246 points, 495 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dwarf 08:49 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:57284 08:59 [AU] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 Grayswandir", on T:1380 09:03 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1811 points, 3131 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while fainted from lack of food 09:03 [EU] [D]: wheals (Cav Hum Fem Law), 2410 points, 3008 turns, killed by a killer bee 09:06 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:58417 09:09 [EU] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5884 09:12 [EU] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:5910 09:16 [EU] [D]: perkele (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 248 points, 533 turns, killed by a boulder 09:16 [EU] perkele (Tou Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:50 09:18 [EU] [D]: perkele (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 124 points, 402 turns, killed by a small mimic 09:18 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 12704 points, 6330 turns, killed by an owlbear 09:29 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 09:29 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2868 09:37 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2328 points, 4362 turns, killed by a fire ant, while frozen by a potion 09:41 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Grouchy's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:17130 09:54 [EU] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:4063 09:57 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 775 points, 2198 turns, killed by a pony 09:58 [EU] Mandevil (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:21679 09:58 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 33 points, 379 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 09:58 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 09:59 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:59 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 10:01 [US] SrinivasSamJespe (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:1302 10:10 [US] [D]: SrinivasSamJespe (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1659 points, 3100 turns, killed by a gnome 10:11 [EU] [D]: perkele (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1670 points, 2573 turns, killed by a gnome 10:11 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 1590 points, 4761 turns, killed by a human zombie 10:17 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:21 I thoug PfSC prevents self-poly from mimic. 10:21 thought 10:22 [US] MoonPig (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 10 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:24251 10:23 Mandevil: You're thinking of unchanging. 10:23 PfSC just prevents other shapechangers transforming. 10:24 -!- Guest4426 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:24 Yeah, I was confused. 10:28 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2022 points, 3006 turns, killed by a soldier ant 10:29 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 10:32 [EU] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8031 10:34 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) has entered the Arena, on T:33440 10:34 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:35 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 10:35 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4689 10:36 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 1659 points, 4722 turns, killed by a killer bee 10:36 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "gfkjl", on T:4323 10:37 next time I'll engrave something more, well, literate 10:40 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1790 points, 5563 turns, killed by a gnome, while fainted from lack of food 10:41 [EU] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed xororand's ghost, the former Adept, on T:8308 10:47 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 290 points, 1362 turns, killed by a kobold 10:50 [US] JochenPeter (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:44127 10:54 [AU] [D]: Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 3048 points, 4797 turns, killed by a crocodile 10:54 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Showumine's ghost, the former Novice, on T:2083 10:54 D'oh. Not a ;, but a ;. 10:54 Or rather, not a :, but a :. 10:57 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed disperse the Kokushu in a deathmatch, on T:33838 10:58 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 15298 points, 8899 turns, killed by an ochre jelly 11:03 [US] MoonPig (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful sandestin, on T:25204 11:03 [US] MoonPig (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:25210 11:04 Setworn: mask = 512. Program in disorder! 11:04 what were you trying to wear? 11:04 I was trying to quiver my darts 11:04 huh 11:04 Well, that actually worked 11:05 save and reload usually clears the disorder, if any 11:06 yeah, it's no problem, just reporting 11:07 [US] MoonPig (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:25504 11:12 [US] [D]: Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law), 671 points, 1210 turns, killed by a gnome lord 11:15 [US] [D]: Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law), 131 points, 341 turns, killed by a boulder 11:17 [US] JochenPeter (Val Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 286 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:45220 11:18 [US] [D]: nurdglaw (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 140 points, 321 turns, killed by a sewer rat 11:21 [US] MoonPig (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:26394 11:29 -!- BilldaCat has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzโ€ฆ] 11:35 [US] [D]: Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1365 points, 1912 turns, killed by a dwarf king 11:36 [US] [D]: PetraKelly (Sam Hum Fem Law), 4003 points, 3831 turns, killed by a killer bee, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:44 <@malor> Sokoban final level, this just happened: You're covered in frost! The master lich points at you, then curses. The master lich casts a spell! The master lich is suddenly moving faster. The master lich touches you! I'm level 9 without MR so I didn't think I had much of a chance. Fortunately it decided to polymorph into a succubus a couple turns later before death touching me ๐Ÿ™‚ 11:46 [US] Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law) murdered Hachi, her faithful little dog, on T:1178 11:50 [US] [D]: Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law), 629 points, 1550 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 11:51 <@malor> oh gosh, now there is a barbed devil in sokoban. My goodness. 11:52 wait until it's a large cat and tame it! 11:52 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4726 points, 5213 turns, killed by a gnome zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:54 <@malor> another shape changer. 11:54 [EU] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Tommo's ghost, the former Stripling, on T:3649 11:55 <@malor> wow, that was a brutal soko (not quite done yet). 2 shape changers that wen't high-powered form initially, a giant mummy, tigers and some other relatively hard stuff. 11:56 -!- BilldaCat has joined #tnnt 11:56 [EU] ichbinmiah (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:2404 12:00 Current Day as of 2021-11-18 12:00 UTC: Games: 174, Asc: 1, Scum: 63. 417167 turns, 3198572 points. 5d 04:22 gametime. (33%Wiz), (48%Hum), (50%Cha), (76%Fem), 12d 11:59 remaining. 12:04 [EU] [D]: perkele (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 169 points, 406 turns, killed by a sewer rat (and one other game not reported) 12:05 [EU] [D]: perkele (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 44 points, 234 turns, killed by a newt 12:06 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2509 12:07 [US] [D]: Cloudmillion (Sam Hum Fem Law), 766 points, 1319 turns, killed by a large cat 12:07 [EU] [D]: perkele (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 68 points, 309 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted sewer rat 12:08 [US] MoonPig (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:26775 12:10 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) destroyed jmcunx's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:19220 12:14 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9715 12:16 -!- Terexen has quit [Quit: Saraba] 12:17 <@malor> what is the penalty for killed a peaceful grey elf as a chaotic ranger? There is one in soko and I want the chance to get sleep resistance. 12:21 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 12:21 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:21 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 12:24 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 6551 points, 5516 turns, killed by a tiger 12:28 <@malor> went for it - got sleep resist ๐Ÿ™‚ 12:28 oh sweet. increase damage is engagement (edible). A friend of mine swallowed an engagement ring so i knew that, but wiki confirms 12:30 [EU] [D]: perkele (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 688 points, 2405 turns, killed by a giant bat 12:31 [EU] ichbinmiah (Ran Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 10 arrows on an altar, on T:4756 12:37 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "uncursed greased fixed magic marker", on T:20923 12:39 [US] [D]: post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 188 points, 263 turns, slipped while mounting a saddled pony (and one other game not reported) 12:40 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:16683 12:40 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:16683 12:44 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:6751 12:44 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 7459 points, 4563 turns, killed by a touch of death 12:56 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:19759 12:59 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:34888 13:00 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:34889 13:00 hai 13:00 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of protection", on T:34890 13:01 Hello K2, Welcome to #tnnt 13:02 [EU] [D]: blankman (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3712 points, 4523 turns, killed by a jaguar 13:04 [EU] ichbinmiah (Ran Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:6148 13:07 he wasn't saying hello, he was saying yes in japanese. why he would do that I don't know 13:08 [EU] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed perkele's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:2125 13:08 soudesuka 13:08 si 13:09 ohaio 13:09 yamete kudastop 13:09 o shit a bridge 13:09 [US] Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a rothe corpse, on T:3155 13:09 [AU] Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) destroyed PetraKelly's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:2292 13:09 :) 13:09 amateurhour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUZIPfKZtU 13:10 haha 13:10 fbk's yeeeeeey is so amazing 13:10 [EU] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Cloudmillion's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:2308 13:11 [EU] noims (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:29771 13:15 <@malor> so I do NOT have a general store yet and I have a few potions and scrolls. Should I start reading and quaffing the blessed ones or something like that or do I wait? 13:15 [US] PetraKelly (Sam Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:6458 13:16 @malor you can also consider throwing a few scrolls into a shop from outside and then price-id them 13:16 as they now belong to the shk 13:17 into _any_ shop 13:17 and there should be at least a few unless you got unlucky with orctown 13:18 <@malor> ah, I didn't know about that technique. Then, I can just buy them back if they are good. Thanks. 13:18 -!- Noims has joined #tnnt 13:18 yes, just requires you to have the money to buyback :P 13:18 or enough criminal energy 13:18 <@malor> I'm really curious about this one: PLZ RETURN TO DEVTEAM 13:19 wanna get spoilered? 13:19 you will find out sooner or later 13:19 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:34894 13:19 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:34895 13:19 <@malor> I was joking ๐Ÿ™‚ 13:20 oh v_v 13:20 oh i see 13:20 i understand now, duh 13:20 you looked to 'price-id' that scroll 13:20 sorry for being dense 13:21 [EU] [D]: blankman (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 288 points, 1933 turns, killed by a bolt of cold (and 2 other games not reported) 13:21 [EU] [D]: wheals (Cav Hum Mal Law), 3861 points, 5176 turns, killed by a yeti 13:22 [EU] nurdglaw (Arc Dwa Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 28 darts on an altar, on T:4292 13:23 <@malor> no problem stenno ๐Ÿ™‚ I am pretty low on knowledge level about vanila so it made sense ๐Ÿ™‚ 13:23 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) genocided disenchanter, on T:34985 13:25 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 3606 points, 2670 turns, killed by a soldier ant 13:25 Can someone confirm something for me. I just found some unfortunate bones with +5 silver dragon scales. Am I right in saying that I can safely use an uncursed scroll to turn them into dragon scale, but if I use a blessed scroll I risk vaporisation since it would increase the enchantment. Anyone 100% sure? 13:29 I think it does the vaporization roll first unfortunately :/ 13:30 not 100% sure but if that wasn't the case, you could get arbitrarily enchanted dragon scale mail 13:30 https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnnt/blob/d80ffd2b13fb850355f5d374b1ef344d96a27b67/src/read.c#L1127 13:30 seems like it happens before the dsm things 13:31 [AU] Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:476 13:31 [EU] [D]: nurdglaw (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1168 points, 4585 turns, killed by a small mimic 13:31 Cheers. I might do a quick source dive. Those scales are exactly what I was looking for. 13:34 -!- spicyChickatrice has joined #tnnt 13:35 [US] MoonPig (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:27708 13:36 [US] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 7 arrows on an altar, on T:3334 13:36 Yep. Check if enchantment is >3 is before the merging, so not safe to enchant. Don't have drain life, so looks like I'll be cancelling them:( 13:36 [US] [Q]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4367 points, 4217 turns, quit 13:37 wait but using uncursed scroll should be fine? 13:37 So. Uncursed won't work. IIt'll like evaporate them. 13:38 [AU] Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +5 silver dragon scale mail", on T:479 13:38 hm 13:38 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:35485 13:38 [AU] Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +5 speed boots", on T:487 13:40 [US] MoonPig (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:27893 13:40 [EU] [D]: blankman (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 272 points, 1663 turns, killed by a housecat (and 16 other games not reported) 13:40 [AU] Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed ring of polymorph control", on T:490 13:42 [AU] Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed wand of polymorph", on T:571 13:43 you can't safely enchant non-elven non-cornuthaum armor if it's +4 or higher 13:44 (for elven armor/cornuthaums that's +6 or higher) 13:44 Yes. Even if it's just to turn scales into mailย ย :( 13:44 it's not relevant what you enchant it *to*, only what you enchant it *from* 13:46 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:49 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:35785 13:49 -!- Guest8555 has joined #tnnt 13:49 -!- Guest8555 is now known as Itadez 13:53 [US] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:4005 13:53 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:36013 13:53 -!- qt has joined #tnnt 13:57 <@malor> yes, found a general store finally! 13:58 -!- desertgreg has joined #tnnt 13:58 -!- desertgreg has quit [Client Quit] 13:58 am I the only one that dislike playing dwarves? 13:58 yes 13:58 I do not like friendly mines 13:58 and I do not like being of the letter h 13:58 :D 13:59 thats fair 13:59 [US] [D]: PetraKelly (Sam Hum Fem Law), 8830 points, 8765 turns, killed by a Green-elf 13:59 Dwarves are fine, but I find dwarven valks an abomination 14:00 Whyzat? 14:00 I like my Dwa Val 14:00 Valkyrie. Dwarf. 14:00 that being said my next char will be a Cav-Dwa 14:02 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5703 points, 10778 turns, killed by a poisonous corpse 14:03 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 14:04 <@malor> I agree with you cbus. I like the easy monsters to be my enemies ๐Ÿ™‚ 14:04 they have cool hats 14:05 and mithril :D 14:05 and stacks of stabbity stab weapons 14:05 I like building up my dog in the Mines.ย  :) 14:05 I'm playing all gnomes this month, same problem 14:05 I have gnome and elf left too 14:06 on the races 14:06 so gonna get to bite the gnome bullet too 14:06 but I will probably do a Hea-Gno 14:06 and Pri-Elf 14:07 nice! 14:07 should be all races and all roles 14:11 <@nabru> the problem with dwarves, IMHO, is that it blocks you from genociding h. That means I have to use two scrolls of genocide to rid myself of MF and MMF 14:11 yeah thats is what I meant by being of the letter h :) 14:12 [US] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1 14:12 <@malor> .nabru - that's not my problem when I am an "h", my problem is that I do genocide "h" and then I'm just dead ๐Ÿ™‚ 14:13 I'm not an h genocider 14:13 I quick draw on L though 14:13 -!- joes has joined #tnnt 14:13 Itadez: did you ascend yet 14:13 <@nabru> I also genocide L, too 14:14 [EU] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:4229 14:14 hL; are my default 14:15 -!- joes_ has joined #tnnt 14:15 qt: Not yet.ย  Just signed on for the day, but am more focused on work right now. 14:16 Also plan to read Wiki-spoilers on what the Planes are like before attacking them. 14:16 i almost genod h the other day but remembered just in time i was a dwarf 14:16 i almost always play human so i don't think about it normally 14:16 could have been pretty bad lol 14:16 heh, that woulda been a quick end. 14:17 <@malor> so while price id'ing I seem to always get the smaller "(" price. Can I assume that is the case? Speaking of the ones where there is a duplicate, like "30" scroll could be "enchant weapon" or "enchant armor/remove curse". But everything seems to be giving me the paranthesis price so I am assuming "30" is the "enchant armor/remove curse". I multi-dropped the "30" scrolls and they stayed 30 fyi. Sorry, I am not familiar with the ins-and-outs of price 14:17 identification. 14:17 -!- joes has quit [Client Quit] 14:18 malor some shopkeepers in 3.6 consistently pay lower prices for unIDed things, I think 14:18 i can't remember whether it might depend on the specific item or not.... 14:18 <@malor> ok, cool. That has seemed the case EVERY time with this cheapo shk ๐Ÿ™‚ 14:18 <@malor> so far all of the unique numbers have been the smaller. 14:18 <@malor> so I'll go with that, thanks qt. 14:19 probably a good bet then. and if you're wrong you can blame me and publicly denounce me as a scoundrel 14:19 hmmmmm 14:20 are there any special handlings on izchaks tendency towards prices since he is kind of a special shk that seems to like the adventurer? 14:20 <@malor> you have helped me before and I know the game of Nethack is a mind-trip so I will only blame myself regardless. Well, I might blame stupid rng ๐Ÿ™‚ 14:21 Demo: i don't think so in vanilla? there are in evilhack though 14:21 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1655 points, 3174 turns, killed by an owlbear 14:21 is he cheap or nice in ehack? 14:21 <@Shadow_Rider> Malor you can assume that 14:22 Demo: no 14:22 <@Shadow_Rider> Either applies price reduction to everything or nothing 14:22 er as in, he is not special in vanilla 14:22 <@malor> thanks for the confirmation Shadow. 14:22 izchak is not affected by racial bias like other shks. i find that racism stuff silly 14:22 <@malor> there doesn't appear to be an article on price id for amulets. Is that the case? 14:22 especially bad with izchak though, bordering on insulting 14:22 <@Shadow_Rider> All amulets have the same price :( 14:23 VaderFLAG had an epic death in June when he played splice merman. genocided ; on the plane of water. 14:23 <@malor> ah, thanks Shadow. 14:23 mobileuser: did he have showrace on? honestly i probably wouldn't have remembered if I didn't have that enabled 14:23 <@malor> I'm glad you mentioned that mobile so I can put it in mind as merman was a race I was considering for splice ๐Ÿ™‚ 14:23 probably not! 14:23 good misdirection i guess 14:24 [AU] Tangles (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:2060 14:26 [US] [D]: PetraKelly (Sam Hum Fem Law), 605 points, 1260 turns, killed by a gnome lord 14:29 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed nurdglaw's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:7289 14:32 [US] [D]: wintergalaxy88 (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 523 points, 1300 turns, killed by a pony 14:33 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:29026 14:33 There's a NH Price-ID tool at http://nethack.gridbug.de/prices.html 14:33 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29031 14:33 There was another one that I used to use, but I can't find that link ATM... 14:34 i will send link if i can find 14:34 oh they took it down 14:34 -!- Noims_up has joined #tnnt 14:35 was it this by any chance Itadez https://nethackathon.org/annotate 14:35 That's not the one I used to use. 14:35 i was looking for that too amateurhour. though i thought it was created like a month ago, so probably not the one someone used to use 14:36 https://github.com/araech/dizzyprice 14:36 this but the site is down 14:36 The one I'm thinking of allowed you to input your level, int, wis, etc.ย  Along with the item type, price, etc. 14:36 ah 14:36 I have it bookmarked 14:36 https://nethack.holics.at/nh-helper-public/nh-helper.html 14:36 this one? 14:36 THAT'S IT! 14:37 <@Shadow_Rider> Whoa Iโ€™ve never seen that one before 14:37 <@Shadow_Rider> Thatโ€™s a really cool one 14:37 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:14126 14:37 that looks useful 14:37 i didnt know there were so many 14:37 you can change the color scheme to paxed 14:37 it gives fail rate for reading books 14:38 which is what I use it for :) 14:39 this is neat, it's cool that it can calculate the + on armor/weapons too 14:39 from the price 14:40 i normally just name an expensive weapon something like "probably good" or "++???" 14:40 [US] hothraxxa (Ran Orc Fem Cha) has entered the Arena, on T:31932 14:40 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 2084 points, 3571 turns, killed by Ms. Pervari; the shopkeeper 14:41 As of now (2006-02-25) it's still under development (bugfixes and "design" issues mainly). 14:42 the author appears to be on irc atm 14:42 huh you're right 14:42 so it's for 3.4.3 then? 14:43 I guess so 14:43 amateurhour: Which took is that note for? 14:43 tool? 14:43 https://nethack.holics.at/nh-helper-public/nh-helper.html 14:43 that one 14:43 yeah 14:43 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 124 points, 565 turns, killed by a falling rock 14:44 cbus: you have a shoutout on there too 14:44 [US] [D]: PetraKelly (Sam Hum Fem Law), 229 points, 738 turns, killed by a small mimic 14:44 oh nice 14:45 'Greets fly out to... cbus' 14:45 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:30134 14:45 probably that was hastily added within the past 10 seconds to credit you for linking it here :) 14:46 haha :D 14:46 could be from many years ago too 14:46 I did use to play a lot of nethack in 3.4 days :) 14:46 yeah i'm just kidding, i'm sure it is from ages ago 14:51 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:10461 14:53 [US] MoonPig (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of create monster", on T:30167 14:54 The sewer rat eats a lizard corpse named the Lizard of Yendor. 14:54 shouldn't have stepped off my stuff 14:56 [US] [D]: PetraKelly (Sam Hum Fem Law), 91 points, 336 turns, killed by a goblin 14:57 [US] [D]: post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 109 points, 408 turns, slipped while mounting a saddled pony (and 8 other games not reported) 14:57 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:14153 14:59 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:14162 15:00 Hourly Stats at 2021-11-18 15:00 UTC: Games: 17, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 0d 03:21 gametime. (65%Hum), 12d 08:59 remaining. 15:00 [US] Smugzug (Pri Hum Mal Law) murdered YipYip, his faithful little dog, on T:1625 15:00 [US] hothraxxa (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed eitbrad the Raider in a deathmatch, on T:32186 15:00 RipRip 15:01 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3438 points, 2970 turns, killed by a fire ant 15:02 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed walkera's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:4273 15:03 [US] MoonPig (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:30383 15:03 [US] [D]: Smugzug (Pri Hum Mal Law), 757 points, 1763 turns, killed by a rothe 15:04 -!- joes_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:04 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:14165 15:05 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:14188 15:05 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) genocided class c, on T:14189 15:07 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", on T:14189 15:08 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:14219 15:11 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:59494 15:12 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:34059 15:16 [US] [D]: Smugzug (Pri Hum Fem Law), 258 points, 1380 turns, killed by a wand 15:16 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:59511 15:22 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4121 points, 5885 turns, killed by a mountain centaur 15:23 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a circular amulet on an altar, on T:5012 15:26 [US] MoonPig (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:31012 15:27 -!- fakepass has joined #tnnt 15:28 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1346 points, 1725 turns, killed by a Green-elf 15:30 [US] k2 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:38118 15:31 [US] k2 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38127 15:36 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 17298 points, 8890 turns, killed by a dwarf, while reading a book 15:38 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 220 points, 424 turns, killed by a wand 15:40 lol 15:40 C) +4 dwarvish cloak (being worn) 15:40 nice find 15:41 I like omat variants 15:41 cause you can find insane stuff on dwarves lol 15:41 so can aggrevate monster get my pets to attack me? 15:41 or is that conflict only? 15:41 no only conflict 15:41 G) +3 dwarvish roundshield (being worn) 15:42 so I am at HP:32 and AC:-7 15:42 by second gnomish level 15:42 (Cav-Dwa) :P 15:42 also found a huge ring store with a bone file 15:42 epic 15:42 what is the procedure for that? (the shop keeper is peaceful but roaming the level) 15:42 the bone items are in the store, so how do I shop? 15:42 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:31022 15:43 hmmm idk 15:43 when you enter the shop it should be reported as empty? 15:43 and nothing should have prices 15:43 I think so but will have to go back 15:43 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a winter wolf cub corpse, on T:4541 15:43 will do once I hit mine town 15:44 <@Shadow_Rider> hah i think if you wait too long the shopkeeper comes back and claims everything 15:45 <@Shadow_Rider> i feel like i remember someone saying that 15:45 yeah but if he gets unfriendly I am dead 15:45 and on a streak of 4 15:45 :P 15:45 so I would rather he claim it and not be in the gray zone 15:45 than potentially oneshotted 15:45 <@Shadow_Rider> they wont be mad at you 15:46 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 258 points, 991 turns, killed by a boulder 15:46 here goes then 15:46 <@Shadow_Rider> dang you are on a 4 streak 15:47 <@Shadow_Rider> need to watch out 15:47 no message at all 15:47 so that means the shop is not abandoned? 15:47 <@Shadow_Rider> what exactly did you do? 15:47 nothing 15:47 [EU] noims (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:32401 15:47 I found a bone file 15:47 someone died in the shop 15:48 the ghost is roaming the level and so is the shopkeeper 15:48 [EU] noims (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:32403 15:48 does stuff in the shop cost money? 15:48 [EU] noims (Arc Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:32403 15:48 nope 15:48 [EU] noims (Arc Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:32404 15:48 <@Shadow_Rider> did you take things? 15:48 if not then take it all lol 15:48 nope 15:48 <@Shadow_Rider> what would have given a message then 15:48 before mr magoo can pull back up and put prices on it 15:48 you enter an abandoned shop 15:48 ot whatever 15:49 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Smugzug's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:3627 15:49 ^ that bone file 15:49 :P 15:49 <@Shadow_Rider> yeah if you let them come back you have to pay for everything 15:49 but I can rob it empty now? 15:49 if he pulls up show him respect 15:49 should yeah 15:49 as long as no prices on items 15:49 You see here a tiger eye ring. 15:49 so no prices 15:51 robbed :P 15:51 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:5359 15:52 <@malor> qt: I just noticed you faced Priest Malor ๐Ÿ™‚ I had 500hp and -44 AC before I put on the helm of alignment change and lost my protection and bonus from the helm ๐Ÿ™‚ I also had 2 aol's in my bag of holding so I could have been really formidable ๐Ÿ™‚ 15:52 peaceful Havic 15:52 :P 15:52 yeah, it was really bad malor 15:52 Havic talks about the problem of shoplifters. 15:52 500 hp, something like -35 AC 15:53 and yes, 2 amulets of life saving. not sure why you had them if they were in your bag, but you definitely had them... 15:54 I couldn't hit you at all, I had to wish up a cockatrice corpse and basically whale on you for 15 minutes until I got enough lucky hits to burn through all your protective measures 15:55 <@Shadow_Rider> wish for a cockatrice for the deathmatch arena 15:55 <@Shadow_Rider> :/ 15:55 i did it alright 15:55 Obviously the real 2000 IQ move is to wish for undead turning. 15:55 i wanted malor's ring of extra damage +5 15:56 which I am proudly wearing 15:56 <@Shadow_Rider> okay i wont judge 15:56 <@Shadow_Rider> not to you at least 15:56 you are clearly judging 15:56 lol 15:56 For my upcoming attempted ascension, I have at least 4 more potential wishes available.ย  I'm about to enter the Planes.ย  Is there any reason I shouldn't wish up a couple more blessed AoLS? 15:57 <@Shadow_Rider> how spoiled do you want to be 15:57 Very.ย  I want to ascend, not die.ย  This'll be my first. 15:58 use your bugle Itadez 15:58 <@Shadow_Rider> indeed 15:58 Play it cautious enough and you'll only need the one AoLS if that. 15:58 <@Shadow_Rider> so you may want to use a wish for a cockatrice corpse on the astral plane 15:58 it will help scare off the monsters. bugle is more powerful than other instruments due to a bug 15:59 <@Shadow_Rider> do you have portal detection? 15:59 that would actually be a historic greased fireproof unlocked partly eaten very chickatrice corpse named everyboody must get stoned 15:59 oh and holy 16:00 <@Shadow_Rider> yes of course 16:00 you may also want to reserve a wish for a helm of opposite alignment 16:00 I just read https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Bugle.ย  I know I use the Bugle via "apply", but how does it work? 16:00 [EU] Graznop (Ran Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9328 16:00 when you apply it, it will say 'Improvise? [Y/N]' 16:01 If I get surrounded, play the thing and it scares monsters? 16:01 choose 'Y' and you'll play some music and scare nearby monsters 16:01 yeah 16:01 <@Shadow_Rider> it scares monsters based on monster magic resistance 16:01 or even if monsters are only in your way 16:01 <@Shadow_Rider> many monsters have low or 0 mr 16:01 some monsters. it will help you escape engulfing too 16:01 <@Shadow_Rider> in particular you will wand to abuse it on the plane of air 16:01 especially valuable on the plane of air 16:01 <@Shadow_Rider> or you will have a rough time 16:02 you also need levitation but i assume you know that 16:02 <@Shadow_Rider> also quick question is there a way to get these rings in soko without kicking or digging 16:02 hothraxxa: Have a ring. 16:02 <@Shadow_Rider> in the pits 16:02 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5033 16:02 jump into the pits i guess 16:02 fall on them until they fall with you or throw something on top of them I guess 16:02 good start :P 16:02 preblessed magic lamp in shop 16:02 itadez: no thanks, i just put one out 16:02 oh on the holes, not the pits? 16:03 it used to be that autopickup would work, but it stopped working for some reason at some point and I can't remember if it was readded 16:03 <@Shadow_Rider> yes sorry 16:03 yeah if you step on the hole sometimes the ring will fall through with you 16:03 <@Shadow_Rider> aight thanks 16:03 amateurhour: Yeah that's fuckin' cheeks. 16:03 yeah the autopickup fail is a pita 16:03 why no kicking? 16:04 glass wands shatter don't they? 16:04 kicking makes noise 16:04 just check for porcelain 16:04 they do 16:04 <@Shadow_Rider> its soko 4 16:04 <@Shadow_Rider> everything wakes up 16:04 I don't want to kick on soko 4 16:04 i know but in soko why does that matter? 16:04 [EU] noims (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:32727 16:04 <@Shadow_Rider> i dont wanna wake up the zoo 16:04 oh soko 4 16:05 Yeah it's fine on every other floor but soko 4 could have shapeshifters in the zoo 16:05 you know what's bizarre? using a pickax on the door doesn't wake anyone up 16:05 impressive dwarven technology 16:06 <@Shadow_Rider> the regular axes are silent too i think 16:06 i have a wow (1:0), it makes sense to wrest it before I kill rodney right? basically there's no reason to save it for the planes since wresting will take too much time? 16:07 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:8079 16:07 [US] McPanther (Mon Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:8459 16:07 <@Shadow_Rider> its generally safe to wrest on dlvl1 and the plane of water 16:08 <@Shadow_Rider> though id only wait if i was deciding between marker and opposite alignment 16:08 <@Shadow_Rider> and you were unsure if youd have enough resources 16:08 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:36935 16:09 i feel like I'm fine, I have revgeno and taming for purple rain, gold detection, OK weapons. i don't really know what I would wish for anyway 16:10 a bunch of wands of death too 16:10 <@Shadow_Rider> can never have too many markers :P 16:10 <@Shadow_Rider> one of these days im just going to burn all 7 wishes on markers immediately 16:11 Why do we keep talking about the Helm of Opposite Alignment? 16:11 Itadez: when you get to Astral, you need to find the altar that matches your alignment 16:12 OK.... 16:12 if you have a helm of opposite alignment, you can swap alignment to offer the amulet on a different altar 16:12 some consider the hoa is degenerate 16:12 -!- Noims has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:12 e.g. if you're lawful and you find the chaotic altar first, you can put on the helm to offer on the chaotic altar, instead of continuing to search for the lawful altar 16:12 you don't get full points if you do it that way but it's still considered an ascension 16:13 bah, points 16:13 it's aosdict's disain you need to worry about 16:13 disdain 16:13 Ah, so just "in case you find the opposite altar first" and then you have to deal with fewer Riders/etc. 16:13 precisely 16:14 hothraxxa: yeah, i mean points don't really matter but it's an indication that it's considered not as good as ascending normally 16:14 [US] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4729 16:14 Itadez: yeah exactly 16:14 personally I've never used it that way 16:14 i did it exactly once 16:14 Haven't read the Wiki about the Riders yet.ย  How bad are they? 16:14 <@Shadow_Rider> famine is the easiest 16:15 they can definitely be dangerous 16:15 in vanilla, they're not too bad 16:15 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1554 points, 2650 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 16:15 don't mess around with pestilence though 16:15 <@Shadow_Rider> use the wand of death pestilence and famine before they get in melee 16:15 famine and pesty can be taken out with the wand of death 16:15 <@Shadow_Rider> death you just have to whack 16:15 death has nearly no hp 16:15 OK.ย  I've got 2 death wands. 16:15 famine will suck the food out of your belly. pestilence will make you deathly sick. death will hurt you 16:15 emotionally 16:15 pesty can stun lock you 16:15 it's the stun and termill combo 16:16 <@Shadow_Rider> i would avoid pesty at all costs 16:16 <@Shadow_Rider> if possible famine first then death 16:16 i had 8 eucalyptus leaves last ascension and i had to eat three or four 16:16 -!- Itadez has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:17 -!- Guest85 has joined #tnnt 16:17 -!- Guest85 is now known as Itadez 16:17 oh! a camera will sacre the riders 16:17 hothraxxa: you scared away Itadez with your stories of eucalyptus leaves 16:17 :D 16:17 <@Shadow_Rider> lol what 16:17 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:7452 16:18 <@Shadow_Rider> did not know camera worked 16:18 I didn't know that either 16:18 yeah, a camera blinds and scares riders 16:18 <@Shadow_Rider> ideally you dont let them get that close tho 16:18 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:31817 16:18 -!- joes has joined #tnnt 16:18 hey, how else you ganna chat with death? 16:18 is the camera-scaring-rider thing also in 3.7? 16:18 ^^^ scottish 16:18 stenno: i don't know, i think so 16:18 I mean I'd hope 16:19 ask aoei or luxi 16:19 <@Shadow_Rider> that is actually good information 16:19 kinda lame 16:19 <@Shadow_Rider> i will use that 16:19 i've never actually done it 16:19 <@Shadow_Rider> it would certainly be of use on death 16:20 you can out run riders pretty easily 16:20 i do that all the time 16:20 jumping even better 16:20 jumping is undignified though 16:20 yes another thing i hardly ever do 16:20 <@Shadow_Rider> well if you dont have those things 16:21 [US] McPanther (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:9564 16:21 Riders have 12 speed right? 16:21 i had one ascension where the purple worms pretty much cleared astral. i had all three riders chasing me all over the place just because i could 16:21 <@Shadow_Rider> mm if i understand the wiki right if i wield an artifact while trying to crown my monk i get stormy? 16:22 I think you have to have the restore ability book already? 16:22 yeah i think so too 16:22 though idk if that does/doesn't work in addition 16:22 what you said, I mean 16:22 in your possession iirc 16:22 <@Shadow_Rider> aww 16:23 <@Shadow_Rider> may want to revise that line 16:24 -!- unit327[m] has quit [K-Lined] 16:24 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:61597 16:24 huh 16:24 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:61610 16:24 Peter gazes at the dwarf... but nothing happens. 16:27 hmm here is another blind dwarf 16:27 [US] [D]: PetraKelly (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3006 points, 3344 turns, killed by an Uruk-hai called Aiakhai of Abanea, while praying 16:28 lol some idort in #libera just got every matrix user murdered 16:28 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9246 16:28 what? 16:28 k-line gone wrong 16:28 actually 16:28 yeah, trying to get one specific guy 16:29 maybe its better like this scnr 16:29 got every single [m] and then some instead 16:29 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:61886 16:29 <@malor> yeah, that +5 ring of increased damage was great. It was +1 and I had a couple charging scrolls and got it to +2 and then BAM up to +5! 16:29 there have been issues with matrix in the recent past 16:29 wait is that what [m] in someone's nick means? they are using matrix? 16:29 mhm 16:29 like what stenno? 16:29 qt: yes 16:29 ...What is matrix? 16:30 Itadez: https://matrix.org/ 16:30 it's a sort of chat thingy that can 'bridge' to various other chat platforms 16:30 Oh booooy. 16:31 amateurhour: there was some major loadbalancing thingy with matrix a few days ago which caused huge quit/join spam 16:31 ahh 16:31 amateurhour: there was a guy in sunglasses and a trenchcoat who was going around jumping between buildings like a nut 16:33 i saw a preview of the new one when i went to the cinema 16:33 [EU] joes (Tou Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 9 darts on an altar, on T:5284 16:34 <@malor> spicyChickatrice - I have now nurse danced so I am trying to protect the honor of your shield ๐Ÿ™‚ 16:36 -!- unit327[m] has joined #tnnt 16:38 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2130 points, 2777 turns, killed by a black unicorn 16:39 so how do I use thonged clubs? 16:39 it asks me what to ready if I press f 16:39 cbus wield it, then throw it -- like Mjollnir 16:39 in 3.7 f works, but in 3.6 you have to use t 16:39 oh damn 16:40 [US] McPanther (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10426 16:40 Yeah, it has to be wielded to tether and then thrown 16:40 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Cloudmillion's ghost, the former Ronin, on T:9663 16:40 please keep your fingers crossed for my pet to kill a coaligned uni 16:40 (manually as you just discovered :B) 16:40 need its body parts to get poison res (eat poisonous corpses and unihorn myself) 16:42 or you could just eat the uni /hj 16:43 coaligned unis are not ok to eat right? :P 16:43 they're not okay to sac 16:43 i think you can eat them actually 16:43 [EU] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a runed dagger on an altar, on T:4567 16:43 or kill 16:43 eating is fine 16:43 but then that was a half-joke for a reason 16:43 found another one :P 16:43 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:62222 16:43 (because it entails beating your pet to the corpse) 16:44 which funnily enough I did with the first :P 16:44 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:62228 16:44 <@Shadow_Rider> :( anyone else getting la 16:44 <@Shadow_Rider> lag 16:44 I did now too 16:44 no PR :P 16:44 I do have a magic whistle 16:44 irccloud suffering too 16:45 <@Shadow_Rider> this is brutal 16:45 <@Shadow_Rider> break time 16:47 [EU] HalNovek (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:43357 16:47 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:49 [US] [D]: walkera (Val Hum Fem Law), 2695 points, 3340 turns, killed by a hill orc 16:49 [EU] [D]: xhtmlcoder (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 4800 points, 3921 turns, killed by a rope golem, while praying 16:49 [US] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 helm of telepathy", on T:80046 16:50 <@malor> I feel pretty powerful: o - 13 uncursed +5 daggers (at the ready) a - an uncursed +5 dagger (weapon in hand) 16:51 nice 16:51 ...until monsters start to throw them back 16:51 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12019 16:52 wow mastodon in mine end 16:52 mmmyeah, *BAIL* 16:52 <@malor> I'm fine with that stenno ๐Ÿ™‚ I'll play catch with them where I have better AC and more multi-attacks ๐Ÿ™‚ 16:53 hah ok 16:53 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:62431 16:54 <@malor> plus the way I lose a fight is running out of daggers, I will exchange some health for more daggers ๐Ÿ™‚ 16:54 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 596 points, 1545 turns, killed by a rothe 16:56 keep in mind that metallivores 16:56 (you see i am not really a fan of dagger throwing :P) 16:56 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:12194 16:57 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 15982 points, 9675 turns, petrified by a chickatrice corpse (and one other game not reported) 16:58 <@malor> dagger throwing has been great for me this game, but I will try to remember not to get my daggers eaten ๐Ÿ™‚ I just love having non-mulch-able ammunition! That's the key for me. 16:58 For the Plane of Water...Any reason I shouldn't wish up a blessed geno scroll and get rid of `;` ? 16:58 no. 16:58 i almost always geno ; on the plane of water 16:59 Can I non-blessed geno Pestilence?ย ;-) . (Joke) 16:59 no but if you wish for geno get two 16:59 <@Shadow_Rider> if youve identified genocide its better to wish for a marker 16:59 ^^^ true 17:00 I have a 0:67 marker 17:00 amateurhour: the load balancing stuff is going on again right now 17:00 amateurhour: behold the spam 17:01 <@malor> Geno ; on water is an excellent strategy 17:01 got joins hidden so can't even see it heh 17:03 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 206 points, 932 turns, killed by a boulder 17:03 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Huan Ti, on T:15125 17:03 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:34454 17:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:04 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Huan Ti, on T:16060 17:04 <@Shadow_Rider> HA YES 17:04 <@Shadow_Rider> I GOT STORMY 17:04 pog 17:04 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:16062 17:04 [US] [D]: McPanther (Mon Hum Mal Law), 16666 points, 11418 turns, killed by a horse 17:04 <@Shadow_Rider> this pleases me greatly 17:04 breaking weaponless as monk is lame 17:05 Itadez: are you gonna hit the planes? 17:05 or just planning 17:05 <@Shadow_Rider> i tried weaponless 17:05 <@Shadow_Rider> but pickaxe exists 17:06 qt: Planning.ย  Trying to get more STUFF. 17:06 rofl 17:06 wood nymph with an ice box 17:06 had 17 corpses in it 17:06 n altar level 17:06 Need food (for Famine), gold detection scrolls, want to find a potion of enlightenment, which I used to have... 17:06 you don't seem to have tried very hard to keep weaponless there Ride 17:06 <@malor> I have 2 games of โ€œattacking with a weapon 1 timeโ€ on dnh :). Pick axe both times ๐Ÿ™‚ 17:07 actually seems like you went severely out of your way to acquire a particular weapon 17:07 <@Shadow_Rider> :/ 17:07 <@Shadow_Rider> ive tried before 17:07 <@Shadow_Rider> whats the point of trying to keep weaponless if breaking it is inevitable 17:07 I think i have about 50 ascensions where i hit with a pickaxe 1 time lol 17:08 does dnh really track it that way ? that's kinda cool 17:08 was trying to think of a funny thing to break vegan with but can't think of one 17:08 master kaen's corpse or something idk 17:08 i try to get weaponless every game i play (i basically always play monk). But it's not something i stress over. Sometimes i get it, sometimes i hit with the pickaxe 17:09 <@malor> Yes dnh reports it 17:09 these days i usually throw the pickaxe in bag if i make it to gehennom weaponless 17:09 the easiest place to lose weaponless is the wine cellar mines end for me 17:09 [US] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:80323 17:09 [US] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:80324 17:10 haha yes! amateurhour! 17:10 i hate it when stupid 'monsters are aware of your presence' wakes up the wizard 17:10 hundreds of times in that spot i'd say lol 17:10 so annoying. i want to wake him up on my own terms 17:10 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:14193 17:10 demonbane works I guess 17:10 yeah... that can be dangerous qt if you're not ready for him 17:11 speaking of which... i have weaponless going. i guess i should get rid of the axe 17:12 [US] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:80395 17:14 [US] [D]: walkera (Val Hum Fem Law), 1626 points, 4267 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 17:15 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Scorpius, on T:34110 17:15 <@malor> in dhn weaponless is really good - when you get a sacrifice gift it is heavily weighted to NON weapons. And the non weapon gifts are really good usually. 17:15 [EU] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7077 17:16 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34132 17:16 [US] inlawBiker (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:29085 17:17 [US] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:80592 17:17 [US] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:80593 17:17 yeah and martial arts actually does great damage with artifact gloves 17:18 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 9518 points, 7202 turns, killed by a warhorse, while being frightened to death 17:18 sigh, milky healing 17:19 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15406 17:19 four spellbooks from the Oracle's statue garden - lucky! 17:19 <@Shadow_Rider> martials arts sux 17:19 <@Shadow_Rider> does no damage 17:19 [EU] [D]: perkele (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1152 points, 1724 turns, killed by a gnome, while praying 17:19 <@Shadow_Rider> no drain resistance 17:19 facts 17:20 [US] inlawBiker (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:29141 17:20 <@Shadow_Rider> oh im surprised you agreed with me 17:20 <@malor> in dNethack martial arts is really good. 17:20 what, why? I'm always saying vanilla monk sucks 17:21 <@Shadow_Rider> fair fair 17:21 <@Shadow_Rider> i guess i thought you would defend them 17:22 [US] inlawBiker (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 cloak of protection", on T:29170 17:22 they shouldn't have nerfed it so much when porting it from slashem imo 17:22 and should have made the quest not totally suck ass... 17:23 <@riker> if god did not intend for me to punch things he would've given me weaker bones 17:24 i need a vanilla variant 17:24 i could make a better vanilla variant than vanilla 17:24 the problem is if i had a vanilla variant id spend too much time porting stuff from dnh 17:25 ndnh3 will port everything from dnh onto xnh 17:25 <@malor> the 4's and xnethack are all vanilla variants right? Do you like any of them? 17:25 nh4 is 343 based 17:25 ndnh4 will port all of ndnh3 onto fourk 17:28 [US] [D]: walkera (Val Hum Fem Law), 646 points, 1464 turns, killed by a boulder 17:28 [EU] elenmirie (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed perkele's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:1524 17:29 nh4 is acehack + nitrohack 17:29 <@riker> i want fiqhack potions of wonder with dnh intrinsic/objcet prop lists 17:29 and you can't really call nitrohack 4.3.4 17:29 it was its own thing 17:29 er 3.4.3 lol 17:30 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3999 points, 2053 turns, killed by a hill orc called Agrisu of Gorairuk 17:31 <@malor> 3 wands of enlightenment. I love 1, but 3? 17:31 [US] [D]: McPanther (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1218 points, 2752 turns, killed by a gnome (and one other game not reported) 17:33 3-rd rarest wand after wishing and death, by quite a margin 17:34 <@malor> oh, wow. That's defying the odds ๐Ÿ™‚ 17:35 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:18117 17:35 i keep dc'ing from hdf 17:35 anyone else having problems or is this my local internet? 17:35 haven't had any connection issues in the past 17:35 I like xnethack a lot 17:36 -!- Not-616a has quit [Excess Flood] 17:36 omg Itadez i just switched over to the tab where I have been spectating your game and saw the list of attributes 17:36 i thought you died 17:36 lol 17:36 aosdict: cut it out with the sarcasm, everyone knows you are dedicated to the destruction of xnh 17:37 [US] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:83271 17:37 [US] [D]: walkera (Val Hum Fem Law), 242 points, 777 turns, killed by a bat 17:37 <@malor> I feel like a gap in the items of Nethack is a "permanent light source" that you can't just trade in for a possible-wish and that doesn't cause aggravate monster (arkstone). 17:38 slashem has magic candles, they don't give a wish but are a permanent light source 17:39 [US] Glord (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:39044 17:39 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 110 points, 417 turns, killed by a boulder 17:39 [US] hothraxxa (Ran Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:34776 17:40 -!- Itadez has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:42 [EU] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:18398 17:44 [US] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:83515 17:44 <@malor> there you go! put those into all the variants ๐Ÿ™‚ 17:46 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) genocided class L, on T:21639 17:48 damn, my archon picked up a key 17:48 this will make certain things a bit more difficult 17:49 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (arch-lich), on T:24540 17:50 wow poor liches 17:50 man... i just screwed up 17:50 <@malor> stenno: Why does the Archon having a key matter? 17:50 -!- Guest85 has joined #tnnt 17:50 -!- Guest85 is now known as Itadez 17:51 haha, nope 17:51 @malor sometimes its good to lock the archon up somewhere, for example when you want to interact with a shk or priest 17:51 -!- qt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:51 <@Shadow_Rider> stenno where are you at 17:51 -!- qt has joined #tnnt 17:51 for example, in this case i locked the shop door to price-id, but the archon unlocked the door and proceeded to kill the shk 17:52 so now i cannot price id lol 17:52 just yolo it 17:52 @Shadow_Rider on my way to XL4 from the oracle and then i will do sokoban 17:52 start reading 17:52 quaffing 17:52 hmm i wonder what this ring does (puts it on without id'ing) 17:53 should I just go into Astral without cursed geno or should I wait around and hope random harassment curses my scrolls 17:54 <@malor> stealth is definitely working. ๐Ÿ™‚ I picked off a zoo without any of them waking up ๐Ÿ™‚ 17:54 [US] inlawBiker (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:29368 17:55 arghghhh im so dumb 17:55 <@Shadow_Rider> wrest the wish 17:55 i already used it 17:55 <@Shadow_Rider> get cursed marker 17:55 <@Shadow_Rider> oh ok 17:56 <@Shadow_Rider> i mean cursed geno isnt necessary 17:56 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvnYmWpD_T8 17:56 yeah i can go without, just really annoying 17:56 [US] BilldaCat (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:33048 17:57 i have no one to blame but myself 17:57 if i die because i lack purple worms i will be sad 17:57 <@Shadow_Rider> use da bugle 17:57 [US] [D]: McPanther (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 357 points, 560 turns, killed by a gnome (and one other game not reported) 17:58 yeah i will just go for it once I find the portal again 17:58 wow I have here a single purple worm, I tried taming him like 5 times, he still isn't tame 17:59 qt: Thanks for keeping an eye on me, BTW.ย ;-) 18:00 Current Day as of 2021-11-18 18:00 UTC: Games: 263, Asc: 1, Scum: 92. 573019 turns, 3346080 points. 6d 15:02 gametime. (29%Wiz), (57%Hum), (41%Cha), (73%Fem), 12d 05:59 remaining. 18:00 [US] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:83888 18:01 <@Shadow_Rider> itadez have you made progress? 18:02 Work has been taking my time this morning. 18:02 [US] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:83940 18:02 [EU] Graznop (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:11067 18:03 wow got a spoiler about wresting 18:03 If thy wand hath run out of charges, thou mayst zap it again and again; though 18:03 [EU] NetSysFire (Cav Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (energy vortex), on T:486 18:03 naught will happen at first, verily, thy persistence shall be rewarded, as 18:03 [US] [A]: qt (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3105532 points, 83954 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/q/qt/tnnt/dumplog/1637009164.tnnt.html 18:03 one last charge may yet be wrested from it! 18:03 i did it 18:03 grats qt 18:03 Congrats! 18:03 thanks guys 18:03 <@Shadow_Rider> gg qt 18:03 uncursing my scrolls was such a facepalm moment 18:04 <@malor> hey qt -> I have you ๐Ÿ™‚ 18:04 <@malor> You had me, right? 18:04 a door just resisted 7 times 18:04 aaaaargh 18:04 yeah malor I fought you in the arena 18:04 <@malor> yep, that's definitely my ring there ๐Ÿ™‚ 18:04 gratz qt 18:04 i have a +8 long sword so that could be good loot if anyone fights me in the arena 18:04 <@malor> my timing on entering the arena was really perfect :). You just ascended ๐Ÿ™‚ 18:04 also extra pain from fighting you qt :) 18:05 <@malor> gg qt by the way! 18:05 thanks :) 18:05 wooo qt \o/ 18:05 <@malor> man you look hard to beat though. 2 attacks and 441 hp and one AoL. 18:05 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 518 points, 1323 turns, killed by a dwarf 18:06 sounds similar to when I fought you, but with 60 less HP, worse AC, and one fewer aols :) 18:07 your guy came so close to killing me. i mean, I like to think I would have run away before dying, but I think I got down to less than 5% hp at more than one point 18:07 <@malor> I only had one attack though ๐Ÿ™‚ 18:08 i used up all my healing potions 18:08 can monsters dual wield? 18:08 <@malor> I did kill someone earlier. I donโ€™t recall who it was. 18:08 i feel like the monster will only have one attack even though my actual hero was dual wielding 18:08 [EU] [D]: perkele (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 322 points, 1292 turns, killed by a brown mold 18:08 <@malor> I assume they can because my previous death match with paradox I was getting hit twice with each attack sequence 18:08 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1167 points, 2439 turns, killed by a gold golem, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:09 [US] BilldaCat (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:33231 18:09 <@Shadow_Rider> lol why you guys do deathmatch if you almost die 18:09 it's fun 18:09 :) 18:09 <@Shadow_Rider> guess i cant argue with that 18:09 <@Shadow_Rider> though dying isnt fun :( 18:10 <@malor> I did it the first ascension run because I wanted to check all the boxes. This time I will do it because I want to keep that +5 ring of increase damage going ๐Ÿ™‚ It has ascended twice so far and I am hoping to make it a third ๐Ÿ™‚ 18:10 [EU] [D]: NetSysFire (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 75 points, 194 turns, killed by a water moccasin 18:11 <@Shadow_Rider> So who will create the ultimate deathmatch opponent 18:11 <@Shadow_Rider> Go so far as to acquire stoning resistance 18:11 <@Shadow_Rider> Wait is that even a thing 18:12 <@Shadow_Rider> I donโ€™t remember 18:14 [US] BilldaCat (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:33410 18:14 <@malor> I am sure several had made impossible death match ascensions. All you would have to do is wish for a cockatrice corpse and you are going to be close to unbeatable. 18:18 [US] BilldaCat (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:33431 18:22 -!- Itadez has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:23 this game was the first time I ever got intrinsic conflict, I didn't even realize that was possible tbh 18:23 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "3 holy charging", on T:26293 18:23 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "3 cursed genocide", on T:26295 18:24 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:26302 18:24 [US] BilldaCat (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:33525 18:24 lol 18:24 my scrolls did get cursed at some point! 18:24 I could have done it... I could have written cursed geno 18:25 silly 18:25 <@malor> Since when can a store be NOT on the outside? I have never seen an interior store? 18:25 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/910958904173809755/Screen_Shot_2021-11-18_at_1.24.52_PM.png 18:25 malor a store can generate in any room that has just one door 18:25 usually those are on the edges of the map because of the way the room-joining algorithm works 18:26 but it can be anywhere in theory 18:26 <@malor> I'm glad I found that out now because I carelessly bash doors that aren't exterior rooms ๐Ÿ™‚ 18:26 [US] [A]: BilldaCat (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2689554 points, 33548 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/BilldaCat/tnnt/dumplog/1636838995.tnnt.html 18:26 woot 2 in a row, we're going streaking 18:26 congrats BilldaCat 18:26 <@Shadow_Rider> gg bildacat 18:26 ty 18:26 <@malor> gg bildacat! 18:26 bild a cat 18:26 <@Shadow_Rider> are you planning to go for tc later on or not anymore? 18:26 <@disperse (he/him)> gg! 18:27 nah not worth it this tournament 18:27 just going to see if i can get 1-2 more ascensions in 18:28 -!- Guest85 has joined #tnnt 18:28 -!- Guest85 is now known as Itadez 18:28 I should really figure out how to make that my permanent name. 18:28 Sounds like a problem for another day, though. 18:29 [US] [D]: walkera (Val Hum Fem Law), 4220 points, 6548 turns, killed by a hill orc 18:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 18:30 [US] [D]: PetraKelly (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2601 points, 2666 turns, killed by a blue jelly 18:31 [US] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:6224 18:31 congrats BilldaCat! go OK. 18:33 [US] [D]: RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law), 16187 points, 6423 turns, killed by a hill orc, while reading a book 18:33 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:27746 18:34 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:35 [EU] [D]: tromix (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2132 points, 1920 turns, killed by a watchman 18:36 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:28131 18:37 so I just had the devteam scroll IN a gold vault 18:38 <@Shadow_Rider> yep its unfair 18:38 I did find it 18:40 oh thats mean 18:40 [US] [D]: RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law), 312 points, 753 turns, killed by a little dog 18:41 Hmmmm.ย  I know that I've read a geno scroll.ย  Got rid of all L and master mind flayer. 18:41 But it's not identified when I use the backtick and look at my scroll list. 18:42 Must've gotten hit by a non-master flayer and had a bout of amnesia about that scroll (I know that I've "forgotten" a few level maps.) 18:43 [US] [D]: desertgreg (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1157 points, 2860 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:44 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3874 points, 2424 turns, killed by an ape (and one other game not reported) 18:45 [US] qt (Mon Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful giant rat, on T:2758 18:47 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1794 points, 3702 turns, killed by a giant ant 18:47 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:48 [US] allanb (Sam Hum Fem Law) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:42252 18:48 [US] allanb (Sam Hum Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:42255 18:50 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:29366 18:50 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:29370 18:50 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:30516 18:51 Oh yeah.ย  Crap.ย  Rodney summoned a buncha nasties in my Valley of the Dead 18:51 [US] qt (Mon Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a small glob of brown pudding, on T:3729 18:51 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) genocided class h, on T:29376 18:51 [US] carr0t (Rog Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Kos, on T:51197 18:52 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 56 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:29634 18:53 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:29772 18:54 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 213 points, 719 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 18:54 nice one BilldaCat 18:54 go team OK. 18:55 OK. go 18:55 [US] qt (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4702 18:55 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 1265 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30080 18:55 oops 18:55 was still holding a crossbow 18:55 smh my head 18:56 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 820 points, 765 turns, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a monster's gaze 18:59 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:30506 18:59 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:30509 19:00 Hourly Stats at 2021-11-18 19:00 UTC: Games: 17, Asc: 2, Scum: 1. 151531 turns, 5830478 points. (50%Neu), 12d 04:59 remaining. 19:00 [US] [D]: eitbrad (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1389 points, 2211 turns, killed by a wand 19:00 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:30692 19:01 [US] [D]: qt (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5171 points, 5159 turns, killed by a tiger 19:01 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4468 19:01 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3795 points, 4468 turns, killed by a pony, while praying (and 3 other games not reported) 19:01 [EU] [D]: perkele (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 14 points, 171 turns, killed by a sewer rat 19:01 door trap stunned me and there was a tiger on the other side 19:02 that lady and the tiger story would be much better if there were exploding doors in it 19:02 and so I leave it with all of you: which came out of the exploding door to kill qt,--the nymph, or the tiger? 19:04 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 19:04 [EU] HalNovek (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:44710 19:04 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided newt, on T:67138 19:06 actually that could be a good theme room: two closets, one containing a nymph (or nurse, or succubus...) and the other a tiger 19:06 [EU] Mandevil (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed magic marker", on T:23483 19:07 I guess a succubus probably fits the story best 19:08 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 19:09 <@Shadow_Rider> ive read blessed identify this game and have not gotten full inventory 19:09 <@Shadow_Rider> 20 19:09 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:33198 19:10 Took me like 7 blessed to get that finally in my current game. 19:10 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:37777 19:10 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:37778 19:10 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a shocking sphere, on T:31070 19:12 [US] [D]: post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 40 points, 129 turns, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 19:12 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 19:14 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:31523 19:14 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31524 19:15 [EU] [D]: perkele (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 549 points, 1824 turns, killed by a giant bat 19:16 [US] [D]: oh6 (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 4532 points, 5258 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 19:18 [US] [D]: qt (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 231 points, 551 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 19:18 $lastgmae qt 19:18 $lastgame qt 19:18 qt: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/q/qt/tnnt/dumplog/1637262996.tnnt.html 19:18 someone else died to that bolt of cold too 19:19 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 3408 points, 3575 turns, killed by a dwarf lord 19:19 [US] hothraxxa (Ran Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:36654 19:19 [EU] Mandevil (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:23895 19:22 [US] inlawBiker (Ran Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 unicorn horn", on T:30191 19:24 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:33305 19:24 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased spellbook of finger of death", on T:67491 19:24 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:33316 19:24 [EU] HalNovek (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:45623 19:25 blessed greasy finger 19:25 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:33390 19:26 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed +2 Grayswandir", on T:11124 19:27 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:33496 19:27 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:33498 19:27 [US] Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 dragon scale mail", on T:1431 19:30 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:35019 19:30 [US] eitlarry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:11152 19:32 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "marker", on T:34256 19:32 shdowrider38 got mundane, non-magical felt-tip marker 19:34 [EU] stenno (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6606 19:34 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:34505 19:34 paci soko always a atreat 19:34 [US] qt (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Showumine's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3234 19:35 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:67781 19:35 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:67784 19:35 <@malor> ok, I was standing next to the castle drawbridge opening. I played the passtune and it opened. I waited for a monster, played again, but it did NOT close? I played again no close. Again, no close. I killed that monster and played again, no close. Did someone destroy the bridge or something? The water in front of the bridge is STILL THERE fyi. 19:35 <@malor> I had planned to use the bridge closing to clear out the monsters ๐Ÿ™‚ 19:35 <@malor> I have a harp if that matters. 19:35 <@Shadow_Rider> were you standing in front of the drawbridge? 19:36 <@malor> I was levetating 1 square above the water in front of the bridge. 19:36 <@Shadow_Rider> well if you were directly in front of it something can zap striking and the drawbridge is gone 19:36 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1906 points, 1627 turns, killed by a boiling potion 19:36 <@Shadow_Rider> gotta be a knights move away 19:36 i thought that would instakill you at that distance 19:36 is it just a chance of instakill? 19:37 <@malor> yes, instakill I always give it a very wide berth when directly in front. 19:37 <@Shadow_Rider> i think if you are diagonal it wont kill you 19:37 <@Shadow_Rider> its the tile that the drawbridge opens up to 19:37 <@Shadow_Rider> i know its different in variants 19:38 i always stand here, malor were you one square north of that? https://0x0.st/-RI-.txt 19:38 <@Shadow_Rider> especially the stupid dnh vlad 19:38 <@Shadow_Rider> died twice there already 19:39 <@malor> I moved back to where I had been. 19:39 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/910977409925398569/Screen_Shot_2021-11-18_at_2.38.42_PM.png 19:39 <@Shadow_Rider> something can zap striking from there 19:39 <@malor> You can see that the opening is gone but the water is still there? And playing my harp doesn't close it. 19:39 <@Shadow_Rider> and destroy the bridge 19:39 yeah someone zapped striking definitely 19:39 <@malor> must of been striking then. 19:39 <@malor> In dnh striking will still destroy the 2 squares in front so the water would be cleared. 19:39 <@malor> fine, I'll slog through this if I can ๐Ÿ˜ฆ 19:39 <@Shadow_Rider> if you stand on the land to the left of you and play the passtune you are safe 19:40 <@Shadow_Rider> as in nothing will break the bridge 19:40 like in the link i posted (but rotated) 19:40 <@malor> Oh, I have only played the pass tune 2 times, so I didn't know how it worked ๐Ÿ™‚ 19:40 <@malor> thanks Shadow 19:40 it's just so that you aren't in a direct line of sight, so people won't zap you 19:40 it also helps avoid getting hit with death or something 19:40 <@malor> The wand hits it. Boing! That sounds like striking ๐Ÿ™‚ 19:40 <@Shadow_Rider> yeah i know its different in variants 19:41 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:41 <@malor> In dnh I always just striking the bridge ๐Ÿ™‚ I've never played the tune ๐Ÿ™‚ 19:42 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:35584 19:42 [US] [D]: ZEDDUB (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 443 points, 1558 turns, killed by a giant rat 19:42 [US] qt (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Showumine's ghost, the former Novice, on T:3336 19:42 <@malor> and in my previous vanilla ascensions I used levitation to go to the BACK of the castle. 19:42 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 boots of speed", on T:37279 19:44 [EU] Graznop (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12324 19:45 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:37436 19:45 a treasure zoo but nearly every monster is a killer bee https://0x0.st/-RIq.png 19:46 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:35855 19:46 there were a few more columns of killer bees too before i made them killed bees 19:46 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:35866 19:46 [EU] Mandevil (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:24684 19:47 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:35906 19:48 [US] [A]: shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 1020784 points, 35926 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowrider38/tnnt/dumplog/1637248833.tnnt.html 19:48 <@disperse (he/him)> gg @Shadow_Rider ! 19:48 [US] qt (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed xhtmlcoder's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:3510 19:49 Woo SR! \m/ 19:50 <@Shadow_Rider> yay gg 19:50 <@Shadow_Rider> the strangest thing happened to me 19:50 [US] Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed perkele's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:1614 19:50 <@Shadow_Rider> i teleported a kirin 6 times and it landed within 2 tiles of me every time 19:50 <@malor> gg shadow! 19:50 <@Shadow_Rider> thanks 19:51 <@malor> I am seeing that the BACK of the castle is easier, the monsters just lemming right into the hole down to Ghennom ๐Ÿ™‚ 19:51 <@Shadow_Rider> ah yes the procrastination strat my favorite 19:52 gratz Ride 19:52 <@Shadow_Rider> thanks ahour 19:52 <@malor> also one of the solders or someone had a wand of sleep so that monster kept sleeping the solders so whenever they stopped the lemming parade I went and killed the one in front ๐Ÿ™‚ 19:52 <@Shadow_Rider> im waiting to spectate one of your games ahour 19:52 might be waiting a long time 19:53 <@Shadow_Rider> sadge 19:53 pepehands 19:54 [US] inlawBiker (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:30475 19:54 seems like a few people not playing as much this year compared to last 19:54 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:55 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 7558 points, 10646 turns, killed by a killer bee 19:56 -!- tinklebear has joined #tnnt 19:56 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19909 19:57 What's the #tnnt equivalent bot command to "!gamesby" ? 19:57 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 52 points, 321 turns, zapped herself with a wand 19:58 [US] carr0t (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:51712 19:59 $commands 19:59 K2: available commands are: help ping time tell source lastgame lastasc asc streak rcedit scores sb score ttyrec clanscore clantag whereis players who commands 19:59 there isnt really 19:59 [US] [D]: qt (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 10838 points, 4760 turns, killed by an invisible stalker 19:59 <@Shadow_Rider> grr who wrote croesus 19:59 $lastgame hilarita 19:59 Pinkbeast: No last game for hilarita. 19:59 what does 'gamesby do 20:00 Hourly Stats at 2021-11-18 20:00 UTC: Games: 16, Asc: 1, Scum: 0. 78185 turns, 1060710 points. (31%Mon), 12d 03:59 remaining. 20:00 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 20:00 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 131 points, 614 turns, killed by a kobold zombie 20:00 is it something for rodney, not beholder? 20:00 yup 20:00 qt: Pretty well what it says on the tin (no, it's for DCSS bots) - tells me so-and-so has played n games, won m 20:00 it does seem to work for Rodney 20:01 I just tried it out 20:01 $asc qt 20:01 K2: [EU] No ascensions for qt. | [US] qt has ascended 3 times in 50 games (6.00%): 1xKni 1xVal 1xWiz, 2xHum 1xDwa, 2xLaw 1xNeu, 1xMal 2xFem. | [AU] No ascensions for qt. 20:01 I think Rodney and Sequell have a common ancestor 20:01 $asc k2 20:01 qt: [EU] No ascensions for k2. | [US] k2 has ascended 4 times in 78 games (5.13%): 1xArc 1xCav 1xHea 1xWiz, 1xHum 1xElf 1xDwa 1xGno, 2xLaw 1xNeu 1xCha, 3xMal 1xFem. | [AU] No ascensions for k2. 20:02 k2 I have a better ratio than you, I guess I'm the superior nethack player 20:02 just don't run the same command on beholder ;) 20:02 [EU] [D]: Somnium (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 945 points, 3247 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 20:03 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:67916 20:04 wooo go krm26 20:05 what're you gonna do next Ride? you going for any trophies? 20:08 <@Shadow_Rider> well ive started neutral monk 20:08 <@Shadow_Rider> im debating whether i should try for nethack master (?) or streak 20:08 <@Shadow_Rider> the one which is all role race alignment combos 20:08 neutral monk? that's what I was playing 20:08 i guess I won't race you to an ascension, since it would be so easy for me to win it wouldn't be sporting 20:09 <@Shadow_Rider> :) 20:09 i'm a professional speedrunner you know 20:09 <@Shadow_Rider> so ive heard 20:09 <@Shadow_Rider> someday i hope to be more like you qt 20:10 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:20505 20:11 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:20507 20:11 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2405 points, 3097 turns, killed by a yeti 20:11 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 129 points, 494 turns, killed by a jackal 20:11 i believe you can do it. the first step is to isolate yourself from society and spend your days crying in a dark room. in fact, that's also the last step 20:12 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 gauntlets of power", on T:39921 20:13 <@Shadow_Rider> let me write that down 20:13 [US] qt (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed desertgreg's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:506 20:13 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:20512 20:14 <@Shadow_Rider> also what is this 20:14 <@Shadow_Rider> i turned on bones expecting to find awesome stuff 20:14 <@Shadow_Rider> i dont feel like ive found any bones in the last 10 games ive played 20:14 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:20531 20:15 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:68192 20:15 was going for nethack master a joke or are you seriously considering aiming for 73 ascensions? 20:15 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Chromatic Dragon, on T:40248 20:15 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:68195 20:15 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40250 20:15 [US] karibou (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:43865 20:15 <@Shadow_Rider> no that was not a joke im just stupid 20:15 if it's not a joke then good luc- 20:15 oh 20:16 <@Shadow_Rider> is there no trophy for role race alignment 20:16 <@Shadow_Rider> the 38 one 20:16 nethack master seems a bit too crazy doesn't it, I wish there was one that skipped gender0 req 20:17 can't see one in the list though 20:17 TNNTYANI for next year aosdict ^ 20:18 <@Shadow_Rider> well thats certainly unfortunate 20:18 <@Shadow_Rider> guess i will go for streak instead 20:18 I mean 73 ascensions would still be amazing... haha 20:18 <@Shadow_Rider> is dominator with conducts 20:18 uh 38 or whatever* 20:18 yeah 20:18 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2298 points, 5817 turns, poisoned by an orcish arrow 20:19 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Anu, on T:40686 20:19 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:19 <@Shadow_Rider> well i suppose that works out 20:19 <@Shadow_Rider> i probably would have to play more than i want to in order to do that 20:20 you're missing Great Gnome still for the race ones 20:20 <@Shadow_Rider> i hate gnomes 20:21 <@Shadow_Rider> gnome means neutral 20:21 <@Shadow_Rider> neutral = tedium 20:21 bit mean, they're trying their best 20:21 [US] karibou (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:44278 20:22 heh you could permaconvert to chaotic or something post quest 20:22 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a spherical amulet on an altar, on T:3624 20:22 <@Shadow_Rider> i keep meaning to do that actually 20:22 <@Shadow_Rider> never remember 20:23 amateurhour: luxidream had a serious shot at nethack master last year 20:23 it's supposed to be a reach-for-the-stars kind of thing 20:23 <@Shadow_Rider> i think he repeated a bunch of combos 20:23 yeah I don't think they were going for that 20:23 <@Shadow_Rider> actually im stupid so 20:24 I'll check their ascs from last year maybe I remember wrong 20:24 <@malor> obligatory part of my game where I mention that getting to Level 14 is way too hard ๐Ÿ™‚ 20:24 I just remember lots of orc wiz 20:24 <@Shadow_Rider> lol you are doing it to yourself 20:25 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:1513 20:25 <@Shadow_Rider> he does like orc wiz a lot 20:25 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) has entered the Arena, on T:37642 20:25 "orc wiz for smash bros" iirc 20:26 [US] inlawBiker (Ran Elf Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 440 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30832 20:26 [US] inlawBiker (Ran Elf Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 243 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:30880 20:27 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:40975 20:27 <@Shadow_Rider> i wonder whats more useless restore ability book or vorpal 20:27 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2272 points, 1325 turns, killed by a dwarf 20:27 <@Shadow_Rider> i want to apply my awesome discovery but it doesnt even matter here 20:28 restore ability book is more useless imo 20:29 vorpal stops something spawning with it on astral :) 20:29 <@Shadow_Rider> i probably actually go martial arts this game 20:29 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed +2 helm of telepathy", on T:41200 20:29 <@Shadow_Rider> which is sad to me 20:30 [EU] [D]: perkele (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1158 points, 2589 turns, killed by a human zombie (and one other game not reported) 20:30 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 20:30 how come you're playing neutral? gonna wish for oof of the eye? 20:30 oof or the eye* 20:30 lol 20:30 [US] [D]: haldisse (Cav Hum Fem Law), 623 points, 2439 turns, killed by a gnome lord 20:30 eye got nerfed 2 hard 20:30 <@Shadow_Rider> well i thought there was a trophy for me to aim for :/ 20:31 stupid 3.6 20:31 wont play 20:31 they can mark my bugs WONT FIX i can mark their game WONT PLAY 20:31 its that simple 20:31 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) bribed Asmodeus with 12 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:41276 20:31 there's still great monk at least 20:31 [US] cuddlefish (Bar Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 6 darts on an altar, on T:5776 20:32 oh, you did law and cha already! 20:32 nice, it'll get Great Monk trophy then 20:32 did you use excal on lawful? 20:32 if every achievement gets achieved do we all get a pizza party at the end of the month? 20:34 <@Shadow_Rider> no i did frickin weaponless on lawful too :/ 20:34 gratz 20:34 <@Shadow_Rider> of course i didnt manage it because of the stupid pickaxe 20:34 oh rip lol 20:34 i dont understand why people even try to do that 20:34 it would just make me so mad 20:34 <@Shadow_Rider> it was not even a typo 20:34 <@Shadow_Rider> i was tryna do conducts with that run right 20:34 <@Shadow_Rider> but then i messed everything up 20:35 <@Shadow_Rider> got like 5 arch liches 20:35 <@Shadow_Rider> welded pickaxe to my hand 20:35 <@Shadow_Rider> got frustrated and genoed 20:35 <@Shadow_Rider> ended up with like 5 conducts lmao 20:35 that happened a lot to me in slex, had to figure out a way to navigate to nearest fountain without bumping anything 20:36 <@Shadow_Rider> fountain? 20:36 to uncurse with 20:36 <@Shadow_Rider> heh i wont even ask 20:36 you can uncurse things in fountains 20:36 this is vanilla too 20:37 out out damn spot 20:37 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:42185 20:37 <@Shadow_Rider> well that wouldnt be my first choice in vanilla 20:37 <@Shadow_Rider> but i seem to recall holy water was not duplicable so easily 20:37 [EU] [D]: Somnium (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3370 points, 2677 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 20:37 it's not that uncommon to happen 20:37 4/30 per dip apparently 20:38 i do that all the time 20:38 in this game i found bones with a nice cloak of mr 20:38 cursed of course 20:39 so i dipped it a few times. water glowed, done! 20:39 <@Shadow_Rider> well i do that with armor 20:39 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:69675 20:39 <@Shadow_Rider> i try test stuff on and if its -3 i start dipping :P 20:39 i had no holy water or remove curse 20:41 [US] wispofvapor (Val Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:63974 20:41 -!- tommo has joined #tnnt 20:42 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) bribed Baalzebub with 30 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:42723 20:43 -!- Noims_up has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:44 [US] [D]: cuddlefish (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 4245 points, 6411 turns, killed by a mumak 20:45 -!- tommo has quit [Client Quit] 20:45 -!- tommo has joined #tnnt 20:46 [US] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (energy vortex), on T:3468 20:47 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:43380 20:47 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:43386 20:49 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:43574 20:51 [US] [D]: qt (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 12628 points, 8045 turns, killed by an air elemental 20:51 why was there an air elemental in the second level of sokoban 20:51 isn't that a bit early 20:52 the soko air E kills me every time 20:52 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:70054 20:52 if the energy vortex doesn't get me first 20:53 but yeah, second level seems a bit early to me 20:53 more of a final level thing, often on my way back to the stairs 20:55 [US] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3910 20:55 [EU] [D]: spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 27 points, 391 turns, killed by a grid bug 20:56 [US] tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a fire vortex, on T:3199 20:56 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:38487 20:56 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 979 points, 2830 turns, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 20:57 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed shadowrider38 the Student of Metals in a deathmatch, on T:37860 20:57 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed ring of conflict", on T:38489 20:57 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:44160 20:58 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed tins of floating eye", on T:70236 20:59 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:38595 20:59 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:70256 21:00 Hourly Stats at 2021-11-18 21:00 UTC: Games: 15, Asc: 0, Scum: 1. 40025 turns, 31232 points. (29%Wiz), 12d 02:59 remaining. 21:01 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful purple worm, on T:70269 21:01 i noticed that wielding Grays cures Hallu now - is hat intentional? 21:02 it has been like that since at least 3.4.3 21:02 o dang 21:02 the wiki is way out of date then 21:02 no its not 21:03 it says it only suppresses its effects 21:03 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Hallucination#Cures 21:03 <@Shadow_Rider> it says it suppresses the effect 21:03 <@Shadow_Rider> doesnt cure it 21:03 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Grayswandir 21:03 oh ok 21:03 mhm! 21:04 <@Shadow_Rider> according to tommo it cured the status when unwielded 21:04 ya, the status disappears completely, doesn't return, when i've got the permahallu rc option on 21:05 [EU] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:30327 21:05 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful purple worm, on T:70328 21:05 I remember reading somewhere -- probably the wiki -- that wielding grayswandir "ends permahallu conduct" 21:05 what that means, seems open to interpretation 21:05 hehe well, it sure does 21:06 lol 21:06 [US] shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7944 21:07 [EU] AlbertB (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:48904 21:07 its ok tho, running a valk w grays isn't that much more interesting than valk w excal 21:07 we'll find another way 21:07 [US] qt (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Somnium's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2642 21:07 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:70375 21:07 oh permahallu 21:08 its literally my fave conduct 21:08 <@Shadow_Rider> faq 21:08 the colours make me happy 21:08 [US] [D]: shadowrider38 (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 13982 points, 8032 turns, killed by an air elemental 21:08 rip 21:08 [EU] AlbertB (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:48919 21:08 eek 21:08 <@Shadow_Rider> official verdict monk sucks 21:09 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:44965 21:09 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:44973 21:10 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:45006 21:10 <@malor> the dev workshop WAS AWESOME! First they gave me a really sweet T-shirt. And then there was a wraith there that dropped its corpse on death and leveled me to L14 ๐Ÿ™‚ Thaks devs! 21:10 [US] krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:70448 21:11 there's a couple of sinks in there too for some rings and foocubi malor 21:11 [EU] [D]: Somnium (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 235 points, 1142 turns, killed by a dagger 21:12 make sure there are no stray death or disint rays on that level 21:12 <@malor> what? 21:12 if a monster zaps or breaths at you and it hits a dt member i think its game over 21:12 <@malor> oh, you mean if a dev gets attacked. 21:12 yeah if a dev dies 21:12 <@malor> yikes 21:12 <@malor> well, I am out for good ๐Ÿ™‚ 21:12 pretty sure its if a dev dies, not if you kill a dev? 21:13 <@Shadow_Rider> i feel like the devs should be resistant 21:13 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible high priestess of Moloch, on T:45118 21:13 <@Shadow_Rider> they were supposed to be formidable foes 21:13 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:45127 21:13 the devs are not easy to kill, if one dies then you were trying pretty hard 21:13 aosdict: but if a black dragon breathes and it hits them? 21:13 [US] [D]: Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 5098 points, 5877 turns, poisoned by an orcish arrow 21:13 what if a black dragon happens to breath at you 21:13 that's what demo is saying 21:13 or an idiot with a wand of death is zapping it around 21:13 stupid mountain centaurs 21:13 looks like it's in xkilled so I think you have to be credited? 21:13 pew pew 21:13 ok good 21:14 <@Shadow_Rider> lol someone go in with a pet black dragon 21:14 we did something to give dt members reflection 21:14 I forget what 21:14 theres a macro 21:14 for mr and reflection 21:14 maybe they are just naturally sparkly like silver dragons 21:14 cause vanilla is shit 21:14 and doesnt make those real monster resists 21:14 if i were vanilla dt id make someone else fix that so please vote for me in the 2024 dt election thanks 21:14 he has a 'shield' 21:15 it reflects from paxed's shield! 21:15 ok good 21:15 [EU] AlbertB (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:49098 21:15 it looks like they all have shields of reflection 21:15 -!- Itadez has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:16 [US] [A]: krm26 (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 5065657 points, 70507 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/krm26/tnnt/dumplog/1636919724.tnnt.html 21:16 seems like multiple levels of that not being a risk 21:16 [US] [D]: Bau (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 245 points, 1294 turns, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse 21:16 PatR swings his long sword! PatR hits! <-- I've had this nightmare before 21:17 [EU] perkele (Tou Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3841 21:17 haha qt 21:18 [EU] [D]: perkele (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2453 points, 3863 turns, killed by a gnome 21:18 [US] hothraxxa (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:39714 21:19 [US] hothraxxa (Ran Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:39719 21:22 -!- Guest85 has joined #tnnt 21:23 -!- Guest85 is now known as Itadez 21:23 OK, I'm as ready as I'm gonna get. 21:23 [EU] lacca (Cav Gno Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:25838 21:24 [AU] [D]: Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2303 points, 3134 turns, killed by a soldier ant 21:24 go for it Itadez 21:24 you got this 21:24 [US] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:78 21:25 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:47075 21:25 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:47076 21:26 23 blank scrolls (1 of which is blessed).ย  2 gold detection.ย  More digging wands than I could ever need.ย  2 secret door detection.ย  A (0:1) wish wand.ย  1 scroll of charging.ย  And a (0:53) magic marker. 21:26 Excalibur in hand, and I also recently picked up Demonbane.ย  Dunno if that'll be useful. 21:27 Shield of Reflection, helm of Telepathy. 21:27 [US] qt (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3461 21:27 What should I wish for to make this easier? 21:27 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:47211 21:27 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:23402 21:27 not sure about wishing, but if I were you I'd write more gold detection scrolls 21:28 you probably want at least one per plane (so 4) 21:29 $whereis Itadez 21:29 amateurhour: Itadez is not playing. 21:29 NAO 21:29 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:47270 21:29 yeah i'd wish for a couple markers, blank some scrolls and just write a bunch of whatever 21:29 [EU] AlbertB (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:49331 21:29 enchant this, enchant that. get your 4 gold detections in order. maybe some mapping if you want 21:29 [EU] AlbertB (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:49332 21:30 it's worth recharging your wand of death 21:30 All ; gone 21:30 got a bugle? 21:30 [EU] torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:47326 21:31 i think it's better if you wait until you're actually on the plane of water to genocide ;, because if you do it beforehand they will be replaced with other monsters 21:31 but nbd 21:31 Cursed bugle, uncursed tooled horn. 21:31 [US] malor (Ran Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23465 21:31 qt: too late 21:31 [EU] [A]: torpedojuice (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 1765020 points, 47337 turns, ascended 21:31 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/t/torpedojuice/tnnt/dumplog/1637249244.tnnt.html 21:31 Next time 21:31 at least this way eels won't drown you or something, it's not a bad thing to do 21:31 gratz cbus 21:31 congrats cbus 21:31 thanks 21:31 woo cbus 21:31 Itadez in the planes basically scare everything and keep moving to the next portal 21:31 if you do that it'll be straightforward 21:32 the air plane without doing that can be especially dangerous 21:32 Should I use the bugle or the horn? 21:32 <@Shadow_Rider> bugle 21:32 bugle is better because it scares more things 21:32 Even if cursed? 21:32 <@Shadow_Rider> yes 21:32 lots of monsters won't get scared by the horn at all 21:32 <@Shadow_Rider> it doesnt actually matter until the astral plane 21:32 <@Shadow_Rider> otherwise they affect the same monsters 21:32 sub 6h this time (5h40min27s) 21:33 <@Shadow_Rider> oh gg cbus 21:33 thanks, gg! 21:33 split 1st on streak now too :) 21:33 <@Shadow_Rider> dang gl on the next run 21:33 <@Shadow_Rider> if you win its grind time for me 21:34 Do these "$asc" etc commands only work for hardfought? 21:34 yeah but there are similar commands for NAO on #nethack 21:34 even more specific, they're for tnnt 21:34 https://tnnt.org 21:34 gotcha 21:34 #hardfought commands are like !lastasc (in that channel) 21:34 $tea Itadez 21:34 <@Shadow_Rider> itadez you want to recharge the wand of death 21:35 oh we don't have tea here D: 21:35 i keep forgetting 21:35 Thanks Rider 21:35 <@Shadow_Rider> use blessed scrolls 21:36 if things start going wrong take ur fingers off the keys and think 21:36 Yup 21:36 Did that last night.ย  :) 21:36 nice 21:36 Got help from y'all. 21:36 Wand of cancellation on cursed BoH to the rescue! 21:36 <@Shadow_Rider> no just mash keys until you get where you want to go 21:37 <@Shadow_Rider> thats what i do 21:37 hah 21:37 <@Shadow_Rider> do you have conflict ring? 21:37 <@Shadow_Rider> might be worth a wish 21:37 damn jt lost his streak to wand of death 21:37 <@Shadow_Rider> yeah i saw that 21:37 <@Shadow_Rider> cbus you better win 21:38 <@Shadow_Rider> what role are you gonna do 21:38 starting a cav was revy :D 21:38 $team cbus 21:38 not sure, I have Pri, Hea left 21:38 and Elf, Gno 21:38 if I do not repeat a role 21:38 No conflict ring 21:38 <@Shadow_Rider> elf priest gets instrument ;) 21:39 <@Shadow_Rider> gnome healer has ez racket 21:39 [EU] Mandevil (Rog Hum Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:30292 21:39 <@Shadow_Rider> itadez whats your wand of wishing at again? 21:39 0:1 21:39 <@Shadow_Rider> oh yea i would wish for it then 21:39 Yes, that 21:39 ๐ŸŽพ 21:40 <@Shadow_Rider> for simplicity id say you can wish for the chickatrice corpse 21:40 (once on astral) 21:40 blessed ring of conflict ? 21:40 <@Shadow_Rider> yep 21:40 And that'll get mob A to attack mob B 21:40 <@Shadow_Rider> helm of opposite alignment 21:40 <@Shadow_Rider> indeed 21:40 do you have a charging left? 21:41 No, I charged my death wand 21:41 don't use the wish on conflict if you don't have any way to charge the wand 21:41 I could write a scroll of charging 21:41 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:39134 21:41 0:15 on magic marker 21:41 i'd wish for another marker probably 21:42 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:39140 21:42 <@Shadow_Rider> write charging 21:42 <@Shadow_Rider> charge the marker 21:42 <@Shadow_Rider> write another charging 21:42 I suppose I need 2 scrolls of charging.ย  One for the marker, one for the wish wand 21:42 15 is enough to write charging? 21:42 <@Shadow_Rider> 8-15 21:42 oh nice 21:42 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:39152 21:43 i always think charging costs way more charges than it does 21:43 like if i had to guess i'd say up to 25 charges or something lol 21:44 pros of raising charging cost: less surprise 21:44 cons of raising charging cost: Ride would quit 3.7 for good 21:44 <@Shadow_Rider> honestly yes 21:44 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 21:44 <@Shadow_Rider> i am not sure if i like 3.6 or 3.7 more anymore 21:45 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:38667 21:45 OK, so about that wish 21:45 :) 21:45 i think there's at least one place where 3.7 has the clear advantage 21:45 but I'm not going to say it 21:46 <@Shadow_Rider> what is it 21:46 I'm not happy that 3.7 has apparently removed the ability for the unihorn to restore stats 21:46 the vote for me for devteam 2024 ill remove unihorns 21:46 <@Shadow_Rider> that one im okay with because amnesia got removed 21:47 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:39233 21:47 <@Shadow_Rider> im extremely upset about the bugle 21:47 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:39236 21:47 you can read hawaiian shirts in 3.7 21:47 <@Shadow_Rider> but of course 21:47 actually i was going to say the unihorn nerf, it's so OP in 3.6 21:47 <@Shadow_Rider> how could i forget 21:47 <@Shadow_Rider> really? 21:48 nevermind i just received some campaign funding 21:48 <@Shadow_Rider> well its clearly better yeah 21:48 i will not be removing unihorns, i will be adding hawaaian unihorns 21:48 [US] SkydiveMike (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful cave spider, on T:43827 21:48 [US] k2 (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:47822 21:48 mithril unicorn horn 21:48 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:38729 21:48 I'm starting the "add unicorn poop as a comestible" campaign. 21:49 it is already 21:49 what's the point of the whole system of attribute abuse, monster attacks/spells hurting your stats, etc if it all becomes basically meaningless around the time you reach the oracle 21:49 you can make that a fruit name 21:49 ahhh, that would make sense 21:49 could add it to the doggo-petting variant 21:49 feels so much more balanced in 3.7. I missed it at first but now going back I like the way it works now 21:49 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:9195 21:49 My fruit name is already taken, tho.ย  "brisket" 21:49 thats my dog name 21:50 I named my dog Meathead in sokoban 21:50 [EU] [D]: Somnium (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1544 points, 2316 turns, killed by a soldier ant 21:50 you can always change your fruitname during the game and have multiple differently named fruits 21:50 he kept jumping on the trap doors when there was a tripe on it 21:50 idk brisket is a good dog name for cavemen 21:50 did it like 2-3 times 21:50 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1894 points, 9392 turns, killed by a giant beetle 21:50 [EU] [D]: spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 5 points, 196 turns, killed by a little dart 21:50 [US] Mosh (Hea Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6680 21:51 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2840 points, 2628 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 21:52 I have a completely full inventory, now I found a cursed bag of holding in a bones pile but I have no way to uncurse it 21:52 tantalizingly close to what I need and yet it doesn't help me right now 21:52 are you near a fountain and can you pick it up? 21:52 tip it tip it tip it tip it 21:52 the bag, not the fountain 21:52 <@Shadow_Rider> you risk ruining stuff 21:53 ok and 21:53 its that or he gets nothing 21:53 -!- Itadez has quit [Quit: Client closed] 21:53 12/13 of the loot is retained i think? 21:53 <@Shadow_Rider> well you can wait for holy water or cancellation 21:53 -!- Guest85 has joined #tnnt 21:53 nah not real 21:53 -!- Guest85 is now known as Itadez 21:53 <@Shadow_Rider> i would also tip the bag but some people dont like that 21:53 I have never tipped a cursed one 21:53 I've been damn tempted 21:54 does it destroy items? 21:54 if i can find a digging tool i could get to the fountain in orctown 21:54 <@Shadow_Rider> yeah it deletes a random number of items every time you use it 21:54 Do you have a wand of cancellation? 21:54 even when tipping? 21:54 it's a 1/13 chance per item that it gets deleted I think 21:54 and yeah even when tipping 21:54 <@Shadow_Rider> yes i think tipping too 21:54 <@Shadow_Rider> shut up amatuerhour 21:54 makes sense 21:55 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:55 <@Shadow_Rider> im slow typer 21:55 Itadez: no, it's really early in the game so all I have is a ton of scrolls and potions from bones 21:55 but fast hacker 21:55 :D 21:55 actually i think i have multiple stacks of water so one may be holy water 21:55 though they are from bones so it's more likely uncursed/cursed... 21:55 maybe that's why you've not got sub 30m asc yet Ride :// 21:55 oh wait archons are immune to conflictin 3.6.6 21:55 <@Shadow_Rider> one day one day 21:56 [EU] jt (Ran Hum Fem Cha) destroyed spontiff's ghost, the former Adept, on T:11642 21:56 install Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing just to get better at nethack 21:56 pro tip^ 21:56 damn I forgot to drop off the backup gray dragon scales I found in rodneys zoo 21:56 <@Shadow_Rider> i was just kidding about slow typing 21:56 me too 21:56 or "forgot" (I found a !oGL during the ascension run so I cursed it and skipped VotD) 21:57 <@Shadow_Rider> my dad made me do mavis beacon 21:57 <@Shadow_Rider> i did not improve at all 21:57 [US] qt (Mon Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3634 21:57 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed ring of teleport control", on T:38751 21:57 same, but I just played the games on it and learnt nothing 21:57 <@Shadow_Rider> well it was partly my fault 21:57 <@Shadow_Rider> well all my fault really 21:57 super mario teaches typing 21:57 is rather good 21:57 <@Shadow_Rider> i would always look at the keys even though he tried encouraging me not to 21:57 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: No route to host] 21:58 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 22:00 Hourly Stats at 2021-11-18 22:00 UTC: Games: 16, Asc: 2, Scum: 3. 155725 turns, 6861281 points. (31%Wiz), 12d 01:59 remaining. 22:00 Itadez: were you able to write charging and all that? 22:00 [EU] [D]: Somnium (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 321 points, 815 turns, killed by a gnome lord 22:00 qt: Yes.ย  I recharged my marker and wrote another one. 22:00 nice 22:00 Trying to figure out if I should wish for conflict (or something else), or just head upstairs. 22:01 sounds like Phenomenal Cosmic Power - Itty Bitty Living Space 22:01 <@Shadow_Rider> just wish for conflict 22:01 <@Shadow_Rider> 0:1 is way more than you will need 22:03 i'd recharge the wand before heading up 22:03 Done 22:03 1:3 22:04 [EU] HalNovek (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:47076 22:04 [US] kcostell (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:40996 22:05 [US] kcostell (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:41001 22:05 <@malor> I am way late but - genociding ; before the plane or water can be dangerous as the spawns will be replaced by something else that might be really hard to deal with. Geno them when you enter water and you cut down the monsters by about 60% and it is very easy to traverse with very little risk. 22:05 i suspect that earlier snafu in the valley will end up being harder than the planes... you're very well prepared now 22:05 <@Shadow_Rider> i mean the only thing in vanilla tha spawns is water elementals 22:05 that was a really tight spot 22:06 <@Shadow_Rider> which are weak af 22:06 <@malor> Oh it is just elementals in vanilla? Then never mind ๐Ÿ™‚ 22:06 [US] Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1215 22:06 i just tested it 22:06 <@Shadow_Rider> you right may as well wait but theres no worry 22:06 water elementals, gremlins, rust monsters, and pythons 22:06 <@malor> In dnh they have these super angels that summon themselves and it can get to impossible levels really fast 22:07 so nothing bad but not only water elementals 22:07 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:40501 22:07 oh and pit vipers 22:07 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:07 <@Shadow_Rider> in slash they have deepest one 22:07 [US] kcostell (Bar Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:41188 22:07 <@Shadow_Rider> which are ridiculous 22:07 <@malor> Yeah on water. I had it happen to me one time and had a rare late game splat ๐Ÿ™‚ 22:08 Next time I get this far, I'll try to remember not to geno ; until I get to the water plane 22:08 <@Shadow_Rider> its not going to make a difference for you 22:08 Itadez: don't sweat it, none of the replacement monsters will be that bad, it's still a good thing 22:08 <@Shadow_Rider> you are so beefy you can just tank all of the hits and not take damage 22:08 <@malor> Deeper / deepest appear on water also. And they appear in pretty big groups. But those are cake compared to the summoning Angel swarm 22:09 <@Shadow_Rider> not suggested but water has gotta be the eziest plane 22:09 most tedious though 22:09 water is easy but boring 22:09 <@Shadow_Rider> well the one slashthem game i had there were like two deepest ones that did half of my health in like two turns 22:10 swimming should skip the turbulence or something 22:10 [US] kcostell (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:41266 22:10 [US] kcostell (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:41269 22:10 in slashem and slashthem ac does less damage reduction iirc 22:10 Itadez: promising start killing the wizard right away :) 22:10 Wand of Death FTW 22:10 <@Shadow_Rider> Oh ic 22:11 <@malor> Water always scares me because you can perma die if you go into the water without water breathing. At least in vanilla you can tell air from water. In dnh it is a slight contrast and not that easy to tell. But in dnh you can get a shield of white dragon and just swim everywhere with zero fear ๐Ÿ™‚ 22:11 -!- Guest449 has joined #tnnt 22:12 WTF just happened there? 22:12 <@Shadow_Rider> What happen 22:12 <@Shadow_Rider> Iโ€™m not spectating 22:13 Random whole bunch of monsters surrounding me. 22:13 Earth plane 22:13 that just randomly happens from after killing the wizard for the first time 22:13 if you link images in this channel, discord users will automatically see the full pic 22:13 so, shadowrider and malor 22:14 <@malor> Thanks spicy ๐Ÿ™‚ 22:14 and a million+ lurkers 22:14 <@Shadow_Rider> Use the bugle of surrounded 22:14 <@Shadow_Rider> if 22:14 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:40625 22:14 <@Shadow_Rider> And the conflict ring 22:14 yeah Itadez start using the bugle quite liberally now 22:15 (and say yes to improvise) 22:15 <@malor> Does the bugle work on the death match nemesis? You could kite her/him if so that way, right? 22:15 it actually might do lol 22:15 <@Shadow_Rider> It doesnโ€™t work on player monsters 22:16 <@malor> Darn. I am pretty worried about my nemesis but I feel like I need to fight him since he literally has my item from my last ascension. It is an unusual โ€œcircle of life and deathโ€ that qt and I accidentally managed to get ๐Ÿ™‚ 22:17 could do castle first 22:17 <@Shadow_Rider> lol which is it 22:17 also why do you save so often 22:17 <@malor> +5 ring of increase damage Which is a great item. But also makes the nemesis hut like a ton of bricks 22:17 tryna be unspectatable? 22:18 <@malor> I get interrupted a lot due to what I do for my job. So I save to ensure I donโ€™t accidentally type something into my game window that kills me ๐Ÿ™‚ 22:18 ahh 22:18 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:40663 22:18 ohai, Plane of Air. 22:18 <@malor> Also I work from home and my family pops in a lot too :). Which I like ๐Ÿ™‚ 22:18 Is there a way to avoid bumping into a floating eye in a dark corridor?ย  I'm playing through the hardfought hterm and there are two issues, the eye is very very dark, barely different from black and doing shift-move with the number keypad doesn't work.ย  What do you guys do to avoid this YASD?ย  :-) 22:18 <@Shadow_Rider> use the bugle before the air elementals get to you 22:19 <@Shadow_Rider> they have 36 speed 22:19 [US] [D]: mrflash818 (Bar Hum Fem Neu), 25176 points, 16220 turns, killed by an ogre, while frozen by a monster's gaze 22:19 <@malor> I think if you hold control it stops you 22:19 <@Shadow_Rider> yeah i use shift move 22:19 i have 82k gold, what's the odds that i can find 18k more in gehennom? 22:19 <@Shadow_Rider> idk other than turn up the brightness 22:19 <@Shadow_Rider> theres definitely 18k lying around 22:19 i could go up and kill all the minetown shopkeepers i guess, they have about 2k each? 22:19 do you move using the 'hjkl' keys then? 22:19 [EU] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:32940 22:19 <@Shadow_Rider> yes vikeys 22:20 ok maybe I need to learn that :-) 22:20 oh, there's a treasure zoo in rodneys hut, right 22:21 I wish this game had a y/n confirmation when you get the chilled cockatrice corpse out of your icebox while forgetting that you stripped naked to do some fireproofing :-) 22:21 nah. that wouldn't be any fun 22:21 hehe 22:22 and c corpses would be way OP if they weren't so dangerous... 22:22 does this version of nethack use Cha for conflict rings? 22:22 you can't even add a confirmation to plunge into water without everyone being up in arms :^) 22:22 nope spicy 22:22 <@Shadow_Rider> nope this is the op conflict 22:22 [AU] [D]: Tommo (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 3046 points, 2984 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted yeti 22:22 <@Shadow_Rider> can be blinded and everything 22:22 [EU] nurdglaw (Arc Dwa Mal Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a jackal corpse, on T:3197 22:22 Do you guys play in the hterm or putty, etc? 22:23 I wish the hterm had some configuration for colors 22:23 <@Shadow_Rider> i use plain terminal 22:23 [EU] mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:40702 22:23 <@Shadow_Rider> honestly probably the worst option of the three 22:23 i do both. not putty (running linux) so these days i just use terminal and ssh, but hterm is great too 22:23 For those not following #nethack, I play in my browser.ย  But my browser's "terminal window" size is smaller than the actual terminal window on my screen.ย  ;-) 22:24 <@malor> Is there a way to get the Nethack 4 variants to look old and lifeless? I donโ€™t like the advanced terminal junk ๐Ÿ™‚ 22:25 <@Shadow_Rider> hah then why would you want to play nethack4 22:25 [EU] [D]: Somnium (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 665 points, 2109 turns, killed by a giant bat (and one other game not reported) 22:25 <@malor> It exists ๐Ÿ™‚ 22:25 lol spectating Itadez i am realizing that you can be confused *and* stunned when reading gold detection 22:25 i always spend a bunch of time casting a spell, "oh damn I got stun too", unicorn horn, trying again, repeat 22:25 lol 22:26 [US] kcostell (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:42758 22:26 <@Shadow_Rider> nice 22:26 <@Shadow_Rider> you cant be stunned for certain things 22:26 <@Shadow_Rider> like levelport? 22:26 yeah I think bc it interrupts teleport control i just became overcautious about it 22:27 [EU] [A]: mobileuser (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 1829606 points, 40725 turns, ascended 22:27 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/tnnt/dumplog/1636927477.tnnt.html 22:27 shadow: i bet it's for z-score reasons 22:27 If I'm levitating (which I am), do I need to worry about flying over lava? 22:27 gi gi, mobi 22:27 itadez as long as you don't get a ring blown up by shock damage, no 22:27 i fly over the lava on Fire 22:27 <@Shadow_Rider> gratz mobiler user 22:28 idk if there's anything there that can destroy your ring 22:28 <@Shadow_Rider> go through 22:28 thanks! :-) 22:28 <@Shadow_Rider> theres nothing there 22:28 congrats mobileuser! 22:28 too late qt 22:28 :b 22:28 :-O 22:28 thx :-) 22:29 congrats 22:29 cheers rebatela 22:31 <@malor> Gg mobileuser. 22:31 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: zzz] 22:31 OK, water 22:31 thx! 22:31 gg mobileuser! 22:31 <@malor> Yeah I had an extra gold detection last game and risked being stunned and I was happy it worked ๐Ÿ™‚ 22:31 Itadez: in water, the portal moves around in a bubble, so even once you have detected it you kind of have to spend some time bopping around looking for it 22:31 -!- amateurhoursux has joined #tnnt 22:31 but detection is still useful bc it lets you see it at a distance 22:32 gg mobileuser 22:32 [US] [D]: Showumine (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 524 points, 2142 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while fainted from lack of food 22:32 thx Itadez, good luck to you! 22:32 Any reason I can't fly over this water? 22:32 yeah 22:32 <@Shadow_Rider> because it was too easy 22:32 it's not like normal water 22:32 you used to be able to 22:33 is that you aoei? 22:33 <@Shadow_Rider> so it got fixed 22:33 Well damn 22:33 is there any difference between levitating over a trap, versuse #jump ing over a trap? 22:33 I have to stay in the bubble, and hope that eventually it takes me to the portal? 22:33 it's just like a wall of water that you can't get over, you can either swim, or sit in your bubble and it will move around 22:33 <@malor> Yeah donโ€™t do that. It is probably isnโ€™t total death! 22:33 Itadez stay in the bubble 22:33 yeah pretty much, bubbles will collide so you can move between bubbles as they move 22:33 just got to be patient - think of whale songs 22:33 but yeah just wait more or less 22:34 <@malor> In dnh you can fly into it if you have inventory water protection and non breathing 22:34 <@malor> Which is supplied by a white dragon shield ๐Ÿ™‚ 22:35 <@malor> And some other means, but that one is really easy. 22:36 <@Shadow_Rider> itadez if you see a lot of items and monsters sometimes you can #terrain because the portal can hide 22:37 reading a scroll of magic mapping will also update you on the bubble / portal positions 22:37 [EU] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:33866 22:37 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 8349 points, 5562 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 22:38 [EU] jt (Ran Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:16366 22:39 -!- amateurhoursux has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:39 [EU] lacca (Cav Gno Fem Neu) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Ishtar, on T:31037 22:40 [EU] jt (Ran Hum Fem Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:16556 22:42 [EU] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 boots of speed", on T:33965 22:43 <@Shadow_Rider> bam go 22:44 Thanks for that #terrain tip! 22:44 <@Shadow_Rider> okay the copper ring is conflict right? 22:44 Yes 22:44 <@Shadow_Rider> you may consider taking it off to start up to you 22:45 <@Shadow_Rider> otherwise you will get immediately surrounded by angels 22:45 <@Shadow_Rider> if you wait you can check which riders are where and and get in a better spot first 22:45 good luck Itadez, you got this 22:45 It's off, I'm up. 22:45 <@Shadow_Rider> less go ita 22:45 Can I geno 'A'? 22:46 <@Shadow_Rider> figure out where the riders are 22:46 <@Shadow_Rider> no sadly 22:46 <@Shadow_Rider> can't be that easy :) 22:46 <@malor> Just make sure you are satiated with some one turn food in inventory and the rest is pretty doable since you handled everything else ๐Ÿ™‚ 22:47 <@Shadow_Rider> did you check which rider is which? 22:47 <@Shadow_Rider> gotta figure out where to move towards 22:47 <@PsyMar> do not geno lowercase a either 22:48 <@PsyMar> you just get snakes, and if you geno those, random monsters, often including archons 22:48 <@PsyMar> plus they provide a buffer against the other, more powerful monsters 22:48 How can I figure out the riders? 22:48 <@PsyMar> farlook them with telepathy 22:48 purple & 22:48 <@Shadow_Rider> im pretty sure if you geno both a and S nothing gets generated 22:48 <@PsyMar> I'm pretty sure you're wrong? but either way 22:49 [US] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:4976 22:49 <@Shadow_Rider> yeah not really worth 22:49 <@malor> Interesting. In dnh geno of โ€œaโ€ and โ€œSโ€ significantly nerfs priests and I do it quite often during end game 22:49 <@PsyMar> nothing getting generated is also bad 22:49 OK.ย  Death is near me, Famine is northwest. 22:49 <@Shadow_Rider> rip 22:49 <@PsyMar> go northwest then 22:49 <@PsyMar> maybe kill death first if he's adjacent 22:49 <@Shadow_Rider> use the bugle 22:49 <@Shadow_Rider> spam it 22:49 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1017 points, 2340 turns, killed by a rabid rat 22:49 <@PsyMar> reminder that teleport wands have a 12/13 chance to teleport riders adjacent to you 22:49 <@malor> Death does 8 or so max health damage so watch out for that! 22:49 <@PsyMar> but can get rid of everyone else 22:50 <@Shadow_Rider> is that titan aggro 22:50 <@PsyMar> if conflict then yes 22:50 [EU] lacca (Cav Gno Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:31883 22:50 <@Shadow_Rider> true i would kill it 22:50 FML, forgot about the bugle already 22:50 maybe put conflict back on too? 22:51 <@Shadow_Rider> yes put conflict on 22:51 <@Shadow_Rider> the bugle isnt so effective on the titan 22:51 <@Shadow_Rider> you probably have to kill it 22:51 <@Shadow_Rider> or that 22:51 i thought riders had some kind of anti teleport nastiness 22:51 neat tip, psymar 22:51 [EU] [D]: xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law), 351 points, 419 turns, killed by a giant mimic 22:52 they do in the sense that it revives their corpses 22:52 and yeah it teleports them next to you 22:52 If I had to, could I save here and return later? 22:53 yeah 22:53 Read: my partner wants to go to dinner. 22:53 <@Shadow_Rider> anytime 22:53 <@Shadow_Rider> thats the awesome part about roguelikes 22:53 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 22:53 <@Shadow_Rider> kinda sad though because you are a couple minutes away 22:53 wand of digging is good and quick for opening doors 22:53 <@Shadow_Rider> step back 22:54 Can I wand of death Famine? 22:54 <@Shadow_Rider> yes 22:54 that's famine? 22:54 <@Shadow_Rider> it will hit 60% of the time 22:56 Itadez: you can't tell from a distance which altar it is 22:56 <@Shadow_Rider> gogogo 22:56 [US] [D]: RyanHill (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 88 points, 475 turns, killed by a small mimic 22:56 you have to stand next to it or on it to tell 22:56 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:39508 22:56 special thing about the high altars 22:56 [AU] [D]: Tommo (Val Hum Fem Neu), 170 points, 237 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dwarf 22:57 <@Shadow_Rider> ope 22:57 [US] [D]: RyanHill (Sam Hum Mal Law), 95 points, 168 turns, killed by a scroll of earth 22:57 Um 22:57 Halp? 22:57 <@Shadow_Rider> well thats why we wear lifesaving 22:58 you're stunned 22:58 <@Shadow_Rider> you will prolly die here 22:58 <@Shadow_Rider> or not 22:58 <@Shadow_Rider> beautiful 22:58 <@Shadow_Rider> charge the death wand 22:58 good shot 22:58 <@Shadow_Rider> and take the other one out 22:59 This is the Odin altar 23:00 Hourly Stats at 2021-11-18 23:00 UTC: Games: 14, Asc: 1, Scum: 2. 1d 15:10 gametime. (75%Hum), 12d 00:59 remaining. 23:00 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Sam Hum Fem Law), 266 points, 1048 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 23:00 gah, gotta go 23:00 [US] eitbrad (Pri Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "+3 blessed fixed greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:1990 23:01 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:01 -!- qt has joined #tnnt 23:01 argh what happened 23:01 my internet cut out 23:03 lol the cat sat on the 'wifi on/off' button on the router 23:03 she likes to lie on the warm router and kill the internet 23:03 <@Shadow_Rider> Itadez leaving us in suspense 23:03 [US] carr0t (Rog Hum Mal Cha) wished for "+3 greased blessed fixed helm of brilliance", on T:53605 23:04 [US] eitbrad (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:2113 23:04 -!- qt_ has joined #tnnt 23:05 Itadez had to break for dinner? 23:05 -!- qt has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by qt_))] 23:06 -!- qt_ is now known as qt 23:14 [US] Leggman (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed arnibald's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:6156 23:17 [EU] jt (Ran Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:19123 23:17 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Showumine's ghost, the former Novice, on T:1624 23:18 On that same level... "You see here a scroll labeled PLZ RETURN TO DEVTEAM." 23:18 I thought those become junk mail in bones levels? 23:19 [EU] jt (Ran Hum Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:19286 23:20 HMMMMM 23:20 that's on a bones level arahael?? 23:20 qt: Yep. 23:20 <@Shadow_Rider> Was it in the bones pile? 23:20 No. 23:21 <@Shadow_Rider> If not it probably can just spawn there 23:21 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 513 points, 418 turns, killed by a kitten 23:21 I wonder if it's something like the game decided one of the scrolls would be on level 11, that happened to be a bones level, it generated the scroll the separate from the bones 23:21 That could well be the case. 23:21 because yeah, if it was there when the bones were saved it should have been converted to mail 23:22 [AU] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Raisse's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2000 23:22 Raisse: I have your magicbane now, but I can't use it. :( 23:27 <@malor> spicyChickatrice I believe I have your shield of reflection and my game is still going and I have cleared the castle and the quest, so I could be bringing your shield home if all goes well from here ๐Ÿ™‚ 23:29 [US] [D]: desertgreg (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1317 points, 2852 turns, killed by strangulation 23:32 -!- tommo has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:34 [EU] noims (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:34902 23:34 A cloud of gas puts you to sleep! You are beginning to feel hungry. 23:34 -!- tommo has joined #tnnt 23:39 yay! 23:40 [US] [D]: tinklebear (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1211 points, 1528 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted gnome 23:41 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed greased fixed scrolls of charging", on T:39701 23:42 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:39704 23:45 [US] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:1733 23:45 -!- Noims has joined #tnnt 23:46 [EU] lacca (Cav Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:35035 23:47 [EU] noims (Arc Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 4 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35412 23:48 [US] [D]: nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2023 points, 2082 turns, killed by a giant spider, while frozen by a monster's gaze 23:49 -!- Noims has quit [Client Quit] 23:50 [EU] noims (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 helm of brilliance", on T:35441 23:53 [US] hothraxxa (Ran Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:42279 23:53 [US] ZEDDUB (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4072 23:55 [EU] Graznop (Ran Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Showumine's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:14140 23:55 [AU] Andrio (Cav Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3974 23:56 [EU] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:40433 23:56 [EU] p0werm0de (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:40434 23:56 [US] Hill (Ran Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:39867 23:59 [EU] noims (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:35662 23:59 [US] [D]: ZEDDUB (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2815 points, 4081 turns, killed by a wererat, while helpless