00:00 <@Daniexpert> no reset yet? :P 00:03 K2 is mia 00:04 though I thought he had this whole thing scheduled... 00:05 like cron job comes in and cuts off access to tnnt 00:05 <@Daniexpert> I thought the same 00:05 oh it is cut off 00:05 I can't start a new game 00:06 but the web server was probably not cronjob 00:12 <@Daniexpert> so it was partially automated? 00:13 man I dunno what all the server setup is like 00:13 I just provide the code 00:14 <@Daniexpert> yeah, I know 00:14 <@Daniexpert> just asking out of curiosity 00:18 -!- Azoxey has joined #tnnt 00:19 -!- tacco has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:21 hi 00:21 i'm back 00:21 yeah game access is automagically automated 00:24 <@Daniexpert> automagically, love it ahahah 00:24 :) 00:25 wife and I were out celebrating our wedding anniversary (it's this Monday). I told her I kinda needed to be back before 8pm est and she said 'we'll get back when we get back' and i'm like '... ok' 00:25 <@Daniexpert> You can't say much in those situations lol 00:27 correct. except 'ok' or 'yes ma'am please dont beat me again' 00:27 :P 00:28 I'm imagining you saying "we need to be back by 8pm est", like with the EST included 00:29 <@Daniexpert> AHAHAHA 00:31 heh 00:34 it would be EDT though? unless you're in a place that doesn't do daylight saving time 00:35 hey good point... you WERE back by 8pm est 00:35 <@disperse (he/him)> Ooh, the site seems to be live, are we good to make clans? 00:35 NOPE 00:36 <@disperse (he/him)> Oh, yeah, test clans are still there 00:36 well I mean you can still mess around while it's up but it's going away soon 00:39 right 00:39 just checking a few more things 00:39 i'll announce when clan signup is official (here and on reddit) 00:39 well anniversaries only happen once a year! 00:39 TNNT ... well, also does that 00:39 we got back about 15 min after 8 heh 00:39 had sushi 00:40 mmmmm sushi 00:40 <@disperse (he/him)> Yummy, sounds like a nice night out! 00:41 arahael: ascii+ 00:41 it accepts 국물 as a clan name 00:41 and Y̴̧̨̙̱̼̺̱̞̲̱̫̼̝̼̳̼̝̜͙͉͖̘̑̄̔̽̏͋̽̓̆̿̾̊͜͠͝ͅó̶̧̢̢̨͕͚̹̞̱̗̼̣̮͙̮͇̻͉̘͎̹̥̙̤̱͍͈̝͓̱̣͇̘̰͔̣̖̥̫̲̝͕̠͍̙̯͚͊̉̽͋̀̃͛́̑̚͜͝͠ͅͅg̷̎̅͂̈́̄̀̅̎̆̀͛̋̀̒͛̕̕̚͠͝ 00:41 just not little line-drawings of poopies 00:42 @disperse it was! 00:47 why was croesus not reporting anymore all of a sudden? 00:47 Maybe everyone is dead. 00:48 every planet we reach is dead 00:48 stenno: what's your team name this year? 00:49 i tried out a few interesting names 00:49 i liked ../logout 00:49 clan HAIL ONYO 00:49 also i've wondered if maybe you'd have more folks if you stuck with one - people could go "oh yeah, that team is back, i'll join it this time" 00:50 spicyCebolla: well i have my usual suspect around :) 00:50 suspects 00:51 unfortunately clan `\u0002BOLD STATEMENT` never saw the light of day 00:52 i wonder if it would have worked but i think it would 00:52 <@Daniexpert> ahahahah 00:52 <@Daniexpert> these names are fantastic 00:53 at some point i had a user who wouldn't get his games displayed and also whose clan resulted in a 404 00:53 i guess thats what testing is for 00:53 have to admit that i sat on that one for a bit and considered not reporting it 00:55 we were thinking about putting zero width spaces into a clan name and seeing what that did 00:55 is that what you did or nah? 00:55 stenno, beta period has ended 00:55 no more games until go time 00:56 @Ann congrats, you'll be the first deathmatch npc players face 00:56 spicyCebolla: no it was worse 00:56 I tried to do XSS injection but it didn't work because you can't have in your clan name 00:56 niiiiice 00:56 no, html things didn't work 00:56 but some other things 00:58 K2: it stopped 6.5 hours ago 00:59 hmm 00:59 i might have borked it 01:00 or maybe it was unrelated 01:00 muted after having been kicked for flooding 01:00 maybe 01:03 <@disperse (he/him)> Remind me to never ask NetHackers to test my web apps 01:03 <@disperse (he/him)> Or should that be always, I'm not sure 01:03 better now than later 01:04 yup 01:09 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:14 -!- molybdenum.libera.chat changed the topic on #tnnt to: Welcome to 'The November NetHack Tournament' :: TNNT 2021 kicks off soon, new scoreboard on new domain - https://tnnt.org/ 01:14 -!- mode/#tnnt [+o Croesus] by ChanServ 01:22 tnnt.org is 503 but i assume you are aware of that 01:23 yes 01:23 thank you though 01:23 it should be back up soon 01:23 sooooooooooon 01:23 last min checks and such 01:23 :D 01:26 here is what will happen: i will start a paci, make it quite far, then running out of resources which forces me to scour for resources in the dungeon over which i will lose interest and then i will not touch my game again until its 2 days before the tourney ends and its way too late now 01:26 hah 01:30 <@Daniexpert> soon (tm) :P 01:31 <@Shadow_Rider> Stay strong stenno 01:36 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #tnnt 01:52 <@Daniexpert> K2: the site loads, but with no style at all 01:52 i know 01:52 <@Daniexpert> ok 01:52 i just reactivated it. looking at what made that happen 01:53 -!- caracasbas has joined #tnnt 01:54 help 01:55 whats up caracasbas? 01:55 Sorry. I'm just messing around with my irc client 01:56 all is well 01:56 Clan names cannot contain non-printable characters 01:57 hold off 01:58 took site down temporarily 01:58 I see. To get things ready for the tourney? 01:59 I am new to nethack but I'm gonna play the hell out of it this month. 02:00 nice 02:19 $ping 02:19 nabru: Pong! 02:19 yay! Croesus is responding again! 02:26 clan signup is live, officially 02:26 go go go 02:26 already registered OK. 02:26 thanks for waiting 02:26 stenno 02:26 should have taken order of the cockatrice 02:26 :) 02:28 <@Daniexpert> Yay 02:28 <@Daniexpert> Clan time 02:28 <@Daniexpert> And sleep time 02:28 <@Daniexpert> 3:30 AM (after the switch, so it would be 4:40AM) 02:29 recorder of the k cacti 02:30 cake of the etc corridor 02:31 coke car of the director 02:32 car of the coke director is more funny 02:32 than a car in which one does coke? 02:33 there's an outdoor "pop up" venue with an eclectic set of tables and chairs 02:33 here 02:33 there's also a small, very decorated bus on the property 02:33 which always has people in it 02:33 and it just is impossible for that not to look a little spicy 02:33 they might just be eating and drinking and chatting 02:34 but i can never go check it out cuz i don't wanna walk in on drugs n lewdies 02:34 ooh also 02:34 cider of the taco rocker 02:34 ^ next year's ootc name for sure 02:36 Hmm, K2, I get "disallowed host" when I tap the URL in the topic. :/ 02:36 > Invalid HTTP_HOST header: 'tnnt.org'. You may need to add 'tnnt.org' to ALLOWED_HOSTS. 02:37 <@Daniexpert> yeah, something happened in the last minute 02:37 i know, one sec 02:37 cook the deft carrot rice 02:38 oh, i lost an o in my first anagram 02:38 so it's actually recorder of the ok cacti 02:38 which is better! 02:38 ok all good again 02:40 had to fix some broken links on main index page 02:40 i think i'm done fucking with stuff for the night 02:40 reddit post then zzzZZZzzz 02:40 Yay! All good! 02:40 K2: Oh, yeah, you should sleep! 02:41 Reddit could probably wait 'til the morning! 02:43 And I'm in! Best clan. 02:47 none of the people on my list have logged in yet 02:50 It's still early days. I remember last year a lot of us waited until half way through the month. 02:54 2020 archive is 404 02:55 K2: maybe take down the other TNNT site? 02:55 some returning members are tryna sign up there 02:55 hahah 02:55 smugzug just did the rip van winkle thing 02:56 baneofjon too 02:56 well they cant 02:56 clanmgmt isnt even active for tnnt on hardfought.org 03:01 yeah, it's mostly fine. just might get kinda FAQqy 03:02 solution: 'hey folks, go to tnnt.org' 03:02 done 03:02 plus the redirect is active 03:06 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/qjgrfz/tnnt_2021_clan_signup_is_now_open/ 03:06 \o/ 03:06 woop 03:06 alrighty, gnite o/ 03:09 Night 03:09 Thanks again 03:11 tomorrow? 03:30 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 03:44 K2: Evilhack branch in tnnt when? ;) 03:45 "You feel a strange aura... This is a variant branch!" 03:49 ... "You find a scroll of mail! It says: This branch, "Ice Queen", contributed by Evilhack". 04:42 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 04:43 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:31 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 05:36 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:12 -!- Azoxey has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:25 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 06:30 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:44 -!- Guest11 has joined #tnnt 06:46 -!- Guest11 has left #tnnt 07:06 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 07:07 -!- Andrio has quit [Changing host] 07:07 -!- Andrio has joined #tnnt 07:19 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 07:21 -!- elenmirie has joined #tnnt 07:24 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:41 -!- Graznop has joined #tnnt 07:54 -!- caracasbas has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:55 K2: when I first visited tnnt.org today, I was logged in as another user (Jes). Stale credentials from trial period? 07:55 Also "irclog #tnnt" link on hardfought.org website now asks for a login 07:57 same happened to me Graznop, I got to try out life as habib for a few minutes 07:57 -!- caracasbas has joined #tnnt 07:57 if this were a bank, there would be big trouble :D 08:03 if this were a bank, I'm not sure I would have been able to show the same self restraint. I'd have at least checked out the balance! 08:03 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 08:17 can you use a rubber chicken on the riders? 08:21 cbus: no 08:21 oki, expected as much 08:21 :) 08:25 well, you can, but it will have the same effect as whacking them with a tripe ration 08:25 sounds effective 08:25 "the rider runs from the nasty food" 08:25 :P 08:26 the https://tnnt.org/tnnt/archives links are 404 08:42 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:25 -!- caracasbas has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:30 -!- caracasbas has joined #tnnt 09:49 <@Ann> is it possible to put something like annotations on a ttyrec? 10:12 @Ann, well indirectly 10:12 you can always annotate with just typing `#here is some text` 10:12 ingame 10:21 <@Ann> ah 10:21 <@Ann> what i meant is adding annotations retroactively on an existing ttyrec 10:48 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 11:12 stenno: I don't have any invites so how would you expect me to have joined the clan 11:16 can there be traps on astral plane? (thinking how safe running around with a footrice is there) 11:17 there are not pits and such no 11:22 cbus, no. 11:22 unless you're playing UnNetHack. 11:22 nope vanilla 11:22 tried checking the wiki on astral plane but it does not mention traps at all (someone should probably add that part) :) 11:26 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:28 There are none. 11:28 Unless you dig holes or something; I think that's possible 11:28 well, pits. 11:28 will priests and such zap digging > ? 11:29 I think they can, but they can't even dig a pit 11:47 -!- mobileuser has joined #tnnt 11:56 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 11:57 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:00 aosdict: sent an invite 12:01 thx 12:01 happy reformation day 12:01 happy martin luther king day! 12:01 oh wait. 12:02 happy martin luther day! 12:14 <@Ann> i remember getting verbally invited to teamsplat, but i can't see any invites on tnnt.org when i log in 12:15 prod elenmirie, i think she's admin 12:15 oh, nope, nvm, it's k2 12:15 prod k2 12:20 -!- Umbire has joined #tnnt 12:28 We're on it 12:29 we need a second team :D 12:29 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:30 lol I was logged in as machinespray 12:30 raisse: yeah... huge security fuckup, we know about it, but K2 needs to fix it when he's awake/not hung-over 12:30 and now I'm a proud member of teamsplat! 12:32 I think this is highlighting a certain bus factor of tnnt 12:32 <@Ann> just in case 12:32 <@Ann> my username is anndec 12:32 <@Ann> so that's who you should be sending the invite to 12:32 aosdict: also a certain problem of a certain someone not trusting anyone except the australian with the keys to the castle 12:33 theoretically we work around this problem by having Tangles on the other side of the world, but I dunno how well it works in practice 12:33 elect arahael for hdf admin 2021! 12:33 Tangles is rarely online lol 12:36 ok, Ann 12:37 we need K2 to wake up lol, he's the only one with admin atm 12:37 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 12:37 i see clan unfoog is here too again 12:38 indeed 12:38 stenno are you logged in as stenno 12:38 or as somebody else 12:39 i am stenno 12:39 i mean on tnnt.org 12:39 yes 12:39 ah ok 12:39 what, your name isn't really 010? betrayed 12:40 heh 12:40 in that case my name was actually 8 12:41 why the octal then? 12:41 stenno found a bug 12:41 is fixed now 12:41 wait, another bug or the same bug? 12:41 i was converted the value for any xlog field to int(value, 0) if it looked like a number 12:41 raisse: i found a bug in the tnnt software, where a numeric nick would respect its 'encoding' indicator and would be interpreted as a number 12:42 converting* 12:42 ah right, instead of as a strong 12:42 a string even 12:42 yep 12:42 0 being octal, 0x would be hex 12:42 this was a mistake and i changed it to only convert an explicitly listed set of decimal or hexadecimal integer fields 12:42 so that's already fixed 12:42 yeah i saw your commit 12:43 did u see the <3 stenno :D 12:43 yes i saw, thanks <3 12:43 :D 12:43 also 0x10 would be 16m, not 8 12:44 -m 12:44 yeah but his username was 010 12:44 yup 12:44 which is 8 12:44 don't we have a 0xDEADBEEF player on hardfought? 12:44 haha 12:44 would have broken for them 12:44 yeah 12:52 it was weird to go from #nethack to #hardfought back to here and watch the conversation play out in reverse 12:53 hahahahaha 12:53 that channel hopping 12:54 eh, I just entered tnnt.org and I was logged in as torpedojuice 12:55 we KNOW 12:55 known issue 12:55 k2 sleeping in till 9 am smh 12:55 🤦🏻‍♀️ 12:55 I was logged in as machinespray 12:56 i was p0wermode lol 12:56 what a clusterfuck XD 12:56 so far seems everyone's been good boys, gals and enby pals, n just logged immediately out; except maybe for one person 12:57 https://tnnt.org/clan/WhatIAmNotBebing the creator of clan WhatIAmNotBebing 12:59 anyone think is GnollhackIsGreat is Amy 12:59 huh we have a unicode clan https://tnnt.org/clan/%E2%9C%87 12:59 aosdict: i thought so 13:00 maybe k2 did fix the database issue 13:00 oh right i was gonna try and make clan poo again just to check 13:01 heh github contribution profile is in halloweeny colors 13:01 poo still breaks it 13:02 and we can't fix this without wiping clans so we probably just can't have unicode clans 13:02 or, well, we can't have some unicode 13:02 apparently that one there does work 13:03 hmm 13:03 strange 13:03 6-byte works only for some? 13:03 maybe its a javascript problem 13:03 i don't think clan creation even uses javascript tho 13:03 its just a basic webform iirc 13:04 i mean the sending of the values 13:04 it's sent with a POST i think 13:04 like a normal webform 13:04 correct 13:04 not some AJAX shit 13:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:04 -!- Graznop has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:04 js is only present for 3 things: front page countdown timer, leaderboard switching, and achievement table collapse/show 13:05 i mean that the 6-byte unicode is represented by a surrogate pair during post 13:05 aoei: and you thought I was going to implement this all in react or some such crap 13:05 i will just build my own request and see 13:05 <@Ann> sorry to interrupt but i just noticed something cool about the header on tnnt.org 13:06 <@Ann> so there's this logo in the center... its alt text is actually a blazon for it. as if it was a coat of arms 13:06 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/904355702691225630/unknown.png 13:06 <@Ann> An @ argent on a field azure, a wreath d'or encircling 13:07 yay someone noticed 13:07 lmao 13:07 disclaimer I do not know proper heraldry terms 13:07 <@Ann> (though i believe the 'proper' blazon would be Azure an @ argent, a wreath Or encircling but don't quote me on this) 13:07 <@Ann> iirc you start with the background color 13:08 <@Ann> still cool though 13:08 heh, nice one 13:09 heraldy nerds 13:09 also the @ in your screenshot is a different font from mine, I guess that's what you get from using text in the svf 13:09 svg* 13:10 font-family: Cantarell 13:10 if I want it to look the same uniformly everywhere I should go into inkscape and convert it to a path 13:11 or embed the font in the svg (j/k) 13:11 actually 13:12 wouldnt be that bad 13:12 aosdict: maybe <.< 13:15 utf-8 vs utf-16 13:15 the actual error is django.db.utils.OperationalError: (1267, "Illegal mix of collations (utf8mb4_unicode_ci,IMPLICIT) and (utf8mb3_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation '='") 13:16 I found a stack overflow post that says post 2020 there's something to use that's better than either of those, but again the db encoding stuff has been a K2/aoei thing 13:16 utf8mb3 ? 13:16 i didn't even know that was a thing lol 13:17 aah thats the 3-byte encoding 13:17 hmm 13:17 so i have to find the surrogate pair for pile of poo 13:18 0xD83D 0xDCA9 13:20 got another error at least 13:20 Illegal mix of collations (utf8mb4_general_ci,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE) 13:20 that's basically the same one 13:20 not quite 13:21 the one I pasted was from localhost, it may have a slightly different encoding than hardfought 13:21 same deal though 13:22 -!- Graznop has joined #tnnt 13:24 -!- stenno is now known as stenno\OK 13:39 starting soon 13:40 tourney starts 1am local time for me lol 13:40 dunno if i will be awake then 13:43 stenno\ok, pretty much the same here 13:43 I have tomorrow off at least so will pull off an ascension ;P 13:43 but not gonna start at 1 am 13:59 -!- caracasbas has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:08 -!- caracasbas has joined #tnnt 14:14 hopefully behiker sees my invite and accepts it 14:16 <@Ann> so i went through the first of... apparently 14 ttyrecs of my run, and it turns out the Nymph Hunt lasted a whole 1224 turns, not 800 as i had originally estimated! 14:17 new tnnt minigame for next year - nymph hunt 14:21 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 14:22 -!- Guest51 has joined #tnnt 14:23 spontiff and Muad still no account created smh my head 14:23 with that attitude... 14:26 <@PsyMar> that's not how Terry Pratchett did it so 14:27 <@Ann> i'm going off of what i remember of the wikipedia page for blazon 14:27 <@PsyMar> although my favorite Terry Pratchett heraldry is that of House Vetinari 14:27 <@PsyMar> "Sable." 14:28 <@Ann> there are real life arms with single-word blazons too 14:28 isn't there a V in 14:29 a sable V on a sable field? 14:30 I'm thinking of the signet ring actually 14:30 which obviously has to have some device 14:31 <@Ann> i thought you were saying there's a vampire somewhere in house vetinari 14:34 hmm, why am I too daft to find the sign up page? 14:35 -!- Guest51 is now known as spontiff 14:35 oh, it's becase https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/ doesn't automatically redirect to https://tnnt.org 14:35 it does 14:35 I now have an account. 14:36 no sign up page, only sign in with creds from dgl 14:39 spontiff: invitation sent 14:40 <@Ann> hey K2 14:40 <@Ann> i was told you are the one to pester about clan invites and whatnot 14:46 hi Ann 14:46 can you be more specific 14:48 Ann you have an invite now 14:48 come join us on #teamsplat 14:53 Muad still missing 14:53 also billdacat 14:54 -!- NetSysFire has joined #tnnt 14:56 <@Ann> #teamsplat? is that an irc channel? 14:56 <@Ann> also sorry for the delay but yes i wanted to ask about getting invited to teamsplay 14:56 <@Ann> teamsplat* 14:57 <@Ann> i'm talking through discord, see... so i'm not sure how i would access an irc-only channel 14:59 oh. 14:59 I didn't think of that 14:59 argh I don't think we have a discord bridge 14:59 yeah there's no teamsplat discord 15:00 and discord admins wont setup a bridge to a clan channel 15:00 even a bridge to #evilhack got nixed 15:00 you don't really want everyone on the roguelikes discord server to be able to read everything in #teamsplat 15:00 true 15:00 well some discords are invite only but yeah 15:00 anyway this is what happens when a youngin joins an old fogies clan :P 15:01 <@Ann> if any of y'all can walk me through setting up IRC, i might... 15:01 im stealing teamsplats strategy 15:01 which is... having luxi? 15:01 https://web.libera.chat 15:01 you can access through the web 15:01 yes that link 15:01 <@Ann> ah, but i don't have an account... 15:02