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01:23 <aoei> luxidream: I fixed the javascript thing for sorting ascensions on the scoreboard
01:23 <luxidream> oh sick
01:23 <luxidream> thank you
01:24 <aoei> some .js files were not in the git repo but i found them in a backup Mandevil gave me
01:24 <aoei> so it seems to work now
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01:40 <aoei> luxidream: devnull archives are also back up https://nethackscoreboard.org/devnull/2013/ for example
01:40 <luxidream> ah, thanks
01:40 <luxidream> I think @Tone was interested in that
01:40 <aoei> on that page it shows my 7-conduct 11k barb asc :3
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01:48 <rld> <@Tone> oh cool, thanks :)
01:49 <rld> <@Tone> Nice ascension!
01:49 <aoei> yeah that year i did not do too badly
01:49 <aoei> idk what the records are for conducty gametime runs but 11k with 7-conducts is decent
01:56 <aoei> oh lol my 8991 turn wiz asc is also 6-conduct, apparently that one was foodless
01:56 <aoei> that was just regular nao not a devnull thing tho
01:58 <aoei> probably also scummed for ring of SD for that one lol
01:58 <aoei> it is my only foodless asc i think
02:01 <rld> <@Tone> foodless speedrun means no mmf form I guess
02:01 <aoei> yeah mmf wouldn't go well lol
02:01 <aoei> https://s3.amazonaws.com/altorg/dumplog/aoei/1381975310.nh343.txt
02:01 <aoei> ascended as a Jabberwock
02:02 <rld> <@Tone> ah, yeah they could cast back then
02:02 <rld> <@Tone> a lot of the good forms can't cast spells anymore :/
02:02 <aoei> ... you can't cast in Jabby form anymore? D:
02:02 <aoei> shit
02:02 <rld> <@Tone> you need hands and the ability to talk now
02:02 <aoei> that's a bigger nerf to polyrun than anything I'd remarked upon thus far
02:02 <aoei> minotaur maybe still okay?
02:02 <rld> <@Tone> nope
02:02 <aoei> whaaat
02:02 <aoei> balls
02:02 <rld> <@Tone> mmf, vamp lord, titan
02:03 <rld> <@Tone> not with air ele either
02:03 <aoei> regen ring might tide you over
02:03 <aoei> but repolying to cast is still annoying
02:03 <rld> <@Tone> so no jumping across astral in 3 turns
02:03 <aoei> if you need to cast
02:04 <aoei> if you're a minotaur with a regen ring on you migth be OK
02:04 <aoei> just for big fights
02:04 <aoei> then switch to titan
02:04 <aoei> but yeah it's not great
02:04 <aoei> :<
02:04 <aoei> bah
02:04 <aoei> this upsets me, Tone
02:04 <aoei> I mean I'm glad you told me
02:05 <rld> <@Tone> yeah it used to be fun to play stuff like a jabberwock with unchanging
02:05 <rld> <@Tone> you could level up and keep the hit points
02:05 <aoei> i mean mainly in those forms im casting healing
02:05 <aoei> might be able to do without
02:05 <aoei> but still meh
02:05 <aoei> annoyihng
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06:06 <spicycat> minotaurs don't talk?
06:07 <spicycat> aoei: are sortable columns one of those funny internet wars?
06:07 <spicycat> if a table has columns, those columns should be clickable!
06:07 * spicycat becomes a line in the sand
06:18 <abudhabi> Well, I sort of imagine bull heads don't have vocal cords.
06:30 <aoei> spicycat: if they are it isn't a war I knew about
06:31 <aoei> I just knew the old scoreboard had it, and the new one didn't, but now it has it again
06:31 <spicycat> fab
06:31 <aoei> ye
06:31 <aoei> totes fab
06:31 <aoei> ya girl is a boss maintainer
06:33 * spicycat emits one hooray noise
06:33 <spicycat> maybe there's no war out there
06:33 <aoei> spicycat: should we start a war?
06:33 <aoei> for funs
06:33 <spicycat> maybe it's just a peeve. but i bet other folx have the same peeveys
06:33 <spicycat> i feel dissonant static snow when i click a table header and the info remains alphabetical, or unsorted. especially if the website is displaying info from a db
06:33 <aoei> well fear not
06:34 <aoei> that all works now
06:34 <aoei> except actually
06:34 <spicycat> we could war i guess
06:34 * spicycat diffidently burns yer house down
06:34 <aoei> it works on player pages but not on like category pages
06:34 <aoei> :c
06:34 <aoei> i want it to be on *all* the tables
06:35 <spicycat> yeah!
06:35 * spicycat torches an orphanage too
06:35 <aoei> better be an evil orphanage at least :O
06:36 <spicycat> all's fair in war they say. i'm out for blood, ice cream trucks, cruise ships, and wagons
06:36 <aoei> i don't like this war :c
06:37 <aoei> i wish we could have peace again...
06:37 <spicycat> ah ok
06:37 <aoei> deal?
06:37 * spicycat goes to sleep holding a ciabatta sandwich
06:37 <aoei> i'll take that as a yes
06:37 <aoei> sleep well, gorge
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08:28 <Tangles> I don't think there
08:28 <Tangles> oh I'm scrolled back
08:30 <Tangles> I don't think there's much appetite for adding another server at the moment. We have pretty good coverage with the 3... Some lag is due to local infrastructure, and moving a server closer is not going to fix all of it.
08:31 <Tangles> High pings don't have a huge effect on playability, as long as its consistent, you habituate to it (though it does likely stop you breaking any speed records)
08:32 <Tangles> I've been playing some round-robin games with friends who always insist on playing on the eu server for some reason, which is absolutely metronome-consistent at 334ms from here.
08:32 <Tangles> You just have to take your time with it a bit.
08:33 <aoei> yeh fair play
08:33 <Tangles> Of course I have not told them that when it's my turn to start a new game, I'll be starting it on the au server :P
08:33 <Tangles> Oh hi aoei :P
08:33 <aoei> hai
08:34 <aoei> how goes it
08:35 <Tangles> Good... but I have to run now... Time to get dinner!
08:36 <Tangles> I'll be back in a few hours, then I think it's my turn to do upside-down soko-4 with 334ms ping :)
08:52 <aoei> Connection to eu.hardfought.org closed.tyrec/2020-10-29.08:51:59.ttyrec.gz already exists; do you wish to overwrite (y or n)?
08:53 <aoei> can we have dgl automatically overwrite in this situation
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15:57 <spleen> Looking for a clan. If anybody remembers Michael Lehotay from RGRN in the 2000's, that's me.
15:59 <aosdict> invited you to clan TNNT
15:59 <spleen> thanks!
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16:56 <K2> \o/
16:56 <K2> $time
16:56 <Croesus> K2: 2020-10-29 16:56:38 UTC. 2020 Tournament begins in 2d 07:03:22
16:56 <K2> sooooon
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19:13 <elenmirie__> soooooon
19:13 <elenmirie__> $time
19:13 <Croesus> elenmirie__: 2020-10-29 19:13:35 UTC. 2020 Tournament begins in 2d 04:46:25
19:14 <aosdict> sooooooon
19:14 <aosdict> (keep it going...)
19:22 <K2> $time
19:22 <Croesus> K2: 2020-10-29 19:22:48 UTC. 2020 Tournament begins in 2d 04:37:11
19:22 <K2> soonish
19:23 <K2> :P
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19:59 <elenmirie__> see you soon, if not sooner!
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20:17 <rld> <@ichbinmiah> quick trophy question/clarification for the Greats.  I think I have this correct, but if you pivot out of your original alignment during play, the starting alignment is what counts for trophies, right?  For example if someone goes for Great Valk and helms themselves from lawful to chaotic at the close of the game as part of ascending, that game would still count as lawful for purposes of tracking eligibility of the trophy?
20:23 <Mandevil> @ichbinmiah I believe that starting alignment is used (as the original author).
20:23 <Mandevil> I'd check in the repo, but GitHub does not let me descend into a directory in my own repo.
20:24 <Mandevil> #GithubSux
20:24 <rld> <@ichbinmiah> okeydokey.  Just wanted to be sure as the Nethack scoreboard reports the final alignment as the alignment of record, not the initial one.
20:25 <Mandevil> That's some odd Firefox breakage.
20:25 <Mandevil> It works in Chrome.
20:26 <Mandevil> Yes, align0 is used.
20:27 <rld> <@ichbinmiah> o7
20:41 <elenmirie__> it should be starting alignment, yeah
20:41 <elenmirie__> who knows what these heathens have implemented though! lol
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20:47 <rld> <@ichbinmiah> ok thanks!
20:48 <rld> <ichbinmiah> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/771475554724610109/sddefault.jpg
21:02 <rld> <@IceBox> Yessssss
21:08 <amateurhour> HYPE
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21:27 <nabru> $time
21:27 <Croesus> nabru: 2020-10-29 21:27:11 UTC. 2020 Tournament begins in 2d 02:32:48
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21:33 <rld> <@UniDuckRunAmuck> How can I join a clan for tnnt?
21:33 <deki> a clan admin needs to send you an invite
21:34 <rld> <@UniDuckRunAmuck> do I need to advertise myself or something to get invites? :p
21:34 <rld> <@luxidream> would you like an invite?
21:34 <rld> <@luxidream> what's your hdf username
21:35 <amateurhour> jesus unfoog has like doubled in size this year
21:35 <rld> <@riker> hey luxi can you invite me too? i think i'm still banned from the slex clan
21:35 <deki> amateurhour: yes, and 2 invites still pending :P
21:35 <rld> <@UniDuckRunAmuck> UniDuck. I don't play a lot though so I would probably only have time for 1 ascension
21:35 <amateurhour> omg
21:35 <amateurhour> there's no chance of me and my officemate beating you guys this year
21:35 <amateurhour> lol
21:35 <rld> <@luxidream> that's fine
21:36 <deki> well this time we wanted to make sure to beat you ;)
21:36 <rld> <@luxidream> wait riker what do you mean
21:36 <rld> <@luxidream> is amy not letting you join rofl
21:36 <amateurhour> that's fighting talk, we'll fight to the bitter end!
21:36 <rld> <@riker> i think she's still mad at me from june
21:37 <rld> <@riker> i left slex clan bc i wasn't planning on playing, and then idr why but i ended up joining another clan, and amy was sad
21:37 <amateurhour> traitor!
21:37 <rld> <@riker> oh hush i
21:38 <amateurhour> heh did you join another clan on two accounts riker?
21:39 <rld> <@luxidream> ok I sent you riker
21:39 <rld> <@riker> thanks dad
21:39 <rld> <@riker> amateurhour, yeah, i use 2 for june normally
21:40 <rld> <@riker> that's your fucking account name luxi? LMAO
21:40 <amateurhour> using two keyboards at once?
21:40 <rld> <@luxidream> that's my alt lol
21:40 <rld> <@UniDuckRunAmuck> luxidwarf, is order of the chickatrice your clan?
21:40 <rld> <@luxidream> yes, that's my clan
21:41 <rld> <@UniDuckRunAmuck> ok, thanks for the invite!
21:41 <rld> <@luxidream> because of clan limits we have two teams like last year
21:41 <rld> <@luxidream> lineup has not been finalized yet
21:47 <aosdict> *tnnt bans luxidream for using sockpuppet accounts*
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21:58 <rld> <@luxidream> Is there a rule against that?
21:58 <rld> <@riker> don't give admins ideas
21:58 <rld> <@luxidream> I'm just using it to streamline recruiting
22:00 <aosdict> if you were using sockpuppet accounts to abuse somehow, it wouldn't be good, but I'm not sure that there's actually any advantage you can get by doing that
22:02 <aosdict> I don't know how other tnnt people feel about it but if you were actually playing on both clans, that might be frowned on
22:02 <aosdict> e.g. denying a clan the silver medal because the top two teams each have a half-luxidream on them :P
22:03 <rld> <@luxidream> I won't be doing that
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22:04 <spicycat> i think that would fly in JNH
22:05 <spicycat> tnnt might call it wrongfun
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22:07 <K2> team 'FakeNewts' hahah
22:07 <K2> love it
22:09 <jonathanhanes> cheeky AND fun
22:11 <aosdict> you could make so many trump-joke clan names
22:12 <deki> someone named DudleyTrump should join FakeNewts
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23:17 <rld> <@Tone> Does the ALL CONDUCTS trophy count all of the TNNT conducts listed on the Rules page?  Or is it based on vanilla conducts?
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23:21 <aosdict> aoei would know
23:22 <aosdict> I should add it to the tooltip once I know for sure
23:22 <aoei> don't know off the top of my head but i can find out
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23:35 <rld> <@Tone> Thanks :)
23:36 * aoei wonders if Tone would be the favourite for most conducty ascension this year
23:39 <aoei> there's one bit of config which states that all conducts is the following list: "arti", "pile", "self", "geno", "wish", "athe", "vegt", "vegn", "weap", "elbe", "illi", "paci", "food", "zen", "nude", "halu", "arts", "bone", "swap", "surv", "pets", "deaf"
23:39 <aoei> swap is definitely not a vanilla conduct
23:40 <aoei> that's a tnnt-specific "did not remove items from the swap chest" conduct
23:41 <rld> <@Tone> yeah, a number of those aren't vanilla
23:41 <rld> <@Tone> Thanks!
23:42 <aoei> np
23:42 <aoei> just remember this year OotC is going to be ground into the dust :O
23:42 <rld> <@riker> i doubt that
23:42 <rld> <@riker> i have super secret insider intel that the other luxidream clones are being activated
23:42 <aoei> so do I riker
23:43 <aoei> but I feel like I have to say it
23:43 <rld> <@riker> so i'm not really sure that any other clan can withstand the combined might of 13 luxidreams all focused on OOTC supremacy...
23:43 <aoei> Tone: you and your clanmates are GOING DOWN
23:43 <rld> <@Tone> Also not sure if I'll attempt Most Conducts this year, was planning on messing around with some other stuff
23:43 <rld> <@riker> (if i die due to leaking that, please avenge me, thanks)
23:43 <aoei> wait they have 13 Luxidreams now?
23:44 <aoei> how can this be?
23:44 <rld> <@riker> cloning technology
23:44 <aoei> :O
23:44 <aoei> that seems highly unfair
23:44 <aoei> can we have a no clones allowed rule
23:44 <rld> <@riker> hm. unless luxi is a robot
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23:45 <aoei> i thought so too for a while
23:45 <aoei> but then he showed up on IRC
23:45 <aoei> talked like a normal person and stuff
23:45 * aoei remains convinced that Tariru is a machine