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04:50 <github> [tnnt] copperwater pushed 9 new commits to master: https://git.io/fhJTI
04:50 <github> tnnt/master 3f540fc copperwater: Begin implementing #tnntstats command...
04:50 <github> tnnt/master fac1162 copperwater: Move all TNNT achievements definitions and globals into decl.h...
04:50 <github> tnnt/master 8d34013 copperwater: Report all partial-progress achievements in #tnntstats...
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17:43 <K2> TNNT updated (all servers)
17:43 <K2> ^ new achievements
18:12 <aosdict> and #tnntstats!
18:13 <aosdict> goodbye agonizing over whether you did or didn't touch all the high altars!
18:13 <rld> <@mistleTone> ha, nice
18:17 <rld> <@LuXmas> how long does it take to get a smoky wish, fountain wish, and a magic lamp in the same game?
18:18 <rld> <@mistleTone> That one will likely come down to scum tactics
18:20 <rld> <@mistleTone> or maybe swap chesting a magic lamp in a game where you can get the other two
18:20 <rld> <@ChristmIceBox> cuz you couldn't do stacks from the swap chest right?
18:22 <rld> <@mistleTone> No stacks iirc
18:23 <rld> <@mistleTone> I assume every game has a pretty good chance for a fountain wish if you actually use them all?
18:24 <rld> <@ChristmIceBox> on the other hand i feel like i have had a few games where i obsessively dip something in all fountains with no dice
18:24 <rld> <@LuXmas> no
18:24 <rld> <@ChristmIceBox> sounds like you'd have to basically do that every game till you got 'em all
18:24 <rld> <@LuXmas> fountain chance goes down with dungeon level
18:24 <rld> <@LuXmas> scumming is necessary
18:24 <rld> <@mistleTone> I'd probably scum monks for starting smoky wishes then hit minetown for a lamp then try fountains
18:25 <rld> <@LuXmas> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Fountain
18:25 <rld> <@LuXmas> starts at 2% on dungeon level 1 and goes down
18:25 <aosdict> scumming is necessary *if* you are single-mindedly going for that achievement. For an entire clan across the whole tournament, it's likely that *someone* will get lucky enough to cover the bases.
18:27 <rld> <@mistleTone> The casual way I picture getting that achievement starts with happening upon a smoky wish, then trying the fountains for one, then probably swap chesting a magic lamp if you haven't seen one
18:28 <rld> <@mistleTone> There are definitely other scenarios though, or you could just get lucky
18:29 <jilles> there's a reasonable chance for a magic lamp somewhere in gehennom
18:29 <jilles> assuming you detect treasure in the whole thing
18:30 <rld> <@LuXmas> biggest limiting factor is fountain wishes I think
18:30 <rld> <@mistleTone> That's true
18:30 <rld> <@LuXmas> you can probably grind indefinitely for smoky potions
18:30 <rld> <@LuXmas> even though macros aren't allowed copy and pasting seems to be fine I guess
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