00:00 ###### TNNT 2018 IS CLOSED! ###### 00:00 FINAL TOURNAMENT STATISTICS: Games: 11260, Asc: 228, Scum: 2939. 27535089 turns, 615062609 points. 327d 12:30 gametime. (41%Arc), (42%Dwa), (53%Law), (51%Mal), 00:00 We hope you enjoyed The November Nethack Tournament. 00:00 Thank you for playing. 00:00 \o/ 00:00 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 13 points, 102 turns, killed by touching Giantslayer (and one other game not reported) 00:00 <@Glord> haha 00:00 <@Glord> ShivanHunter defying time 00:00 lmao 00:00 <@Tone> Great tourney all 😄 00:00 [EU] [D]: spontiff (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 921 points, 358 turns, killed by a pit viper 00:00 That was fun! 00:01 superb tournament, extremely fun 00:01 It was fun! 00:01 <@Glord> Wp all! 00:01 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 671 points, 222 turns, killed by a kobold mummy (and one other game not reported) 00:01 !clanscore tnnt 00:01 ShivanHunter: Teenage NetHack Ninja Turtles - Score: 5666 - Rank: 2 00:01 w0000t 00:01 very close for second place 00:01 yeah that was a good competition at the end 00:01 ah well... teamsplat will be back next year 00:01 was a blast ^^ 00:01 !clanscore teamsplat 00:01 nooodle: teamsplat - Score: 5558 - Rank: 3 00:02 final count is 250 vs 249 unique deaths 00:02 Thanks for playing everyone! 00:02 any current games you want to finish, go for it. you have the entire weekend to finish them 00:02 was fun, I liked the Achievements 00:02 come monday morning tnnt port is shut down til next year 00:02 GG EZ 00:03 good night everyone! 00:03 hard to believe how well that went 00:03 only one major server outage :) 00:03 position swaps in the last hour, can't beat that 00:03 indeed! 00:04 -!- werekitten is now known as isha 00:04 TNNT clan, congrats on 2nd place 00:04 or 1st place loser 00:04 however you wanna look at it ;) 00:04 lol 00:04 lol 00:05 :P 00:05 reddit post forthcoming 00:05 TNNT nowhere >near< 1st - Luxi is OP 8^O 00:05 thanks for the fun guys. really appreciate the work y'all put in, and it's a lot of funny watching everyone play! 00:05 :D 00:05 fun fact - if luxidream werent on a team, the top 3 clans would have been in a tight race for top spot 00:05 oh i have a link for the turtles: https://youtu.be/XGbqGkS1c2w 00:06 lol hothraxxa! 00:06 eraserhead: actually I checked a while ago - I'd been thinking of ootc as "the Luxidream clan" too, but he accounts for less than half their points, even ignoring overlap 00:06 I mean, he's OP as hell, but they've got lots of good people 00:06 Luxi can be a solo-team, rofl 00:07 Luxi -> Singleton 00:08 -!- Glord has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:08 is there a way to send a private message to someone on discord side of things? Like if their name isn't listed in my irc window? or what is the link to that webisite again? 00:09 ootc has 27 players, also. TNNT has 17, teamsplat 14. 00:10 Not that they aren't very good at nethack too. 00:10 I really love the hdf-mods - gonna switch from nao to hdf 00:11 ;) 00:11 eraserhead: ditto 00:11 yay ~ 00:11 all - i'm doing up a reddit post now for tournament closeout 00:11 will post link soon 00:11 w00t w00t 00:11 eraserhead we used to play same time on NAO a bunch 00:12 rebatela: yes, I remember u ^^ 00:12 <@Luxcalibur> rebatela: discordapp.com? 00:18 <@Luxcalibur> !ping 00:18 @Luxcalibur: Pong! 00:19 K2: just so you know, the surverymonkey link on the website is broken 00:19 oh crap 00:20 lol it was working earlier 00:21 ok now 00:21 i typo'ed the link 00:21 of course 00:22 <@Glord> works 00:22 survey link - https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/VK878X7 00:25 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:14811 00:26 Kitten lovers MEOW might be recruiting next year. Or disband alltogether because of internal conflicts of the current members. Accidentally killed a few kittens... 00:26 !time 00:26 PavelB: 2018-12-01 00:26:49 UTC. The 2018 tournament is OVER! 00:27 lol 00:28 Only 334 days 23 hour 33 mins until TNNT! 00:29 -!- mode/#tnnt [+o hothraxxa] by ChanServ 00:29 -!- hothraxxa changed the topic on #tnnt to: The November Nethack Tournament is over! Thanks for playing. Please complete the survey at https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/VK878X7 00:30 !clanscore 00:30 PavelB: Teenage NetHack Ninja Turtles - Score: 5666 - Rank: 2 00:30 -!- mode/#tnnt [-o hothraxxa] by ChanServ 00:32 !lastgame 00:32 spontiff: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/tnnt/dumplog/1543622332.tnnt.txt | [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/tnnt/dumplog/1543623211.tnnt.txt | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/tnnt/dumplog/1543622444.tnnt.txt 00:36 -!- spontiff has quit [] 00:40 -!- K2 changed the topic on #tnnt to: The November Nethack Tournament is over! Thanks for playing! Reddit post - https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/a1y8ef/the_november_nethack_tournament_is_over/ - and please complete the survey at https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/VK878X7 00:40 reddit post is up - https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/a1y8ef/the_november_nethack_tournament_is_over/ 00:41 -!- PeterQ has left #tnnt 00:44 be back in a bit 00:44 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 00:44 oh btw nooodle: your Jabberwock death did actually count as a unique death. None of us had died to a jabberwock before :D 00:46 -!- BEHiker91W has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:47 yes, true, but I mean, if someone had died to a Jabberwock without the amulet, then I think that "with the amulet" should have been a separate one. 00:48 yeah, in principle I agree, expecially since you can't just scum those and they have to be a proper game 00:58 -!- eraserhead has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:00 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:02 -!- greqrg has joined #tnnt 01:04 <@Tone> would "(with the amulet)" only count as one unique death or could every death be duplicated? 01:04 I think the suggestion (which I agree with) would be to duplicate every one 01:05 <@Tone> ShivanHunter: Apparently you and I account for almost 25% of games played 01:05 <@Tone> lol 01:06 only having one (with the Amulet) entry would kind of defeat the purpose, as any splat at all would fill that slot and then it'd be done 01:06 heh 01:06 yeah I scummed a ton 01:06 <@Tone> I scummed 900 games for a nudist pacifist game I never really went for 01:06 and the whole Respectably-Sized Impossible thing 01:07 <@Tone> apparently turn 1 smoky potion wishes for wizards aren't easy to come by 01:07 yeah that'd be some insane probability 01:08 -!- BEHiker91W_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:08 <@Tone> I actually got it on turn 2 because turn 1 was used to dip starting smoky potion into starting holy water 01:08 <@Tone> but yeah that took over 900 games apparently 01:09 -!- voffer has quit [Quit: *poof*] 01:11 I'm okay with "with the amulet" only being counted once. Or being counted more than once. I just think it's a fun little detail about the death 01:16 -!- rebatela has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:16 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 01:20 Huh. elron never finished his extinctionist game 01:20 <@Tone> oh weird 01:21 <@Tone> I was wondering what their score would end up at 01:22 yeah same 01:22 probably more than mine, mine got kind of half-assed at the end since I wanted to get back to normal nethack 01:37 * aosdict resurfaces from watching ghostbusters for the first time 01:38 Oh man. Congrats everyone. 01:38 Especially to my fellow members of teenage nethack ninja turtles. 01:39 Thanks 01:40 a couple more unique deaths and team splat would have had the trophy... wow 01:40 [EU] Guthix (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:42813 01:42 yeah the unique deaths race was great at the end :D 02:02 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:04 [US] Bard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:71178 02:26 [US] Karnac (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (cockatrice), on T:9343 02:30 -!- Grassy has joined #tnnt 02:32 [US] Karnac (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:9572 02:33 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:42 [EU] Guthix (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:45419 02:43 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20962 03:05 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:09 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 03:11 -!- rebatela has quit [Client Quit] 03:17 -!- scorchgeek has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:24 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:23572 03:26 [US] Karnac (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:11204 03:27 [US] Karnac (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:11204 03:28 [US] Karnac (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", on T:11209 03:28 [US] Karnac (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "Blessed ring of polymorph", on T:11210 03:33 [US] Karnac (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:11424 03:34 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first item, on T:24456 03:39 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:24602 03:59 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 04:03 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:13 [US] Bard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:78577 04:14 [US] Bard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an Archon", on T:78578 04:15 [US] Bard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an Archon", on T:78605 04:16 [US] Bard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an Archon", on T:78641 04:20 !clanscore teamsplat 04:20 PavelB: teamsplat - Score: 5558 - Rank: 3 04:20 !clanscore tnnt 04:20 PavelB: Teenage NetHack Ninja Turtles - Score: 5666 - Rank: 2 04:26 [US] Bard (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:78938 04:36 [US] Karnac (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Asmodeus, on T:14978 04:39 -!- Grasshopper has joined #tnnt 04:41 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:43 [US] Karnac (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:15473 04:44 [US] [D]: Bard (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 7728 points, 80208 turns, petrified by a cockatrice 04:54 [US] IceBox (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:12277 04:58 [US] [D]: OtsMcGee (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3784 points, 6645 turns, killed by a hill orc 05:17 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:25115 05:35 [US] [D]: Karnac (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 349951 points, 16160 turns, killed while stuck in creature form 05:59 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 06:02 [US] [D]: leonard (Hea-Gno-Mal-Neu), 2978 points, 5893 turns, killed by a killer bee 06:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:18 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:10 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Quetzalcoatl, on T:28596 07:21 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 07:21 Tournament's over. :( 07:21 0 ascensions :( 07:21 Ascesnions in my clan :) 07:21 More than me :) 07:22 See y'all next year. 07:25 !clanscore clantnnt 07:25 Xaleth: Can't find clan clantnnt 07:25 !clanscore tnnt 07:25 Xaleth: Teenage NetHack Ninja Turtles - Score: 5666 - Rank: 2 07:31 !clanscore 07:31 raisse: teamsplat - Score: 5558 - Rank: 3 07:31 only 8 points! 07:50 *dab* 07:52 -!- Xaleth has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 07:58 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 08:01 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 08:02 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:11 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #tnnt 09:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:16 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 09:32 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 09:37 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:30 -!- Grassy has joined #tnnt 10:32 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:40 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 10:46 -!- stenno has left #tnnt 10:49 -!- deki\unfoog is now known as deki 10:55 -!- PeterQ has joined #tnnt 11:31 -!- cherryh.freenode.net changed the topic on #tnnt to: The November Nethack Tournament is over! Thanks for playing! Reddit post - https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/a1y8ef/the_november_nethack_tournament_is_over/ - and please complete the survey at https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/VK878X7 11:31 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v Croesus] by ChanServ 11:31 !time 11:31 Tangles: 2018-12-01 11:31:53 UTC. 2019 Tournament begins in 334d 12:28:07 11:31 ;) 11:32 * elenmirie_ counts the days 11:32 heh 11:33 There's some good feedback on reddit. 11:33 I like luxidream's idea about diminishing returns for duplicate ascensions. This seems to model the way z-scores work. 11:39 -!- Grassy is now known as Grasshopper 11:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:46 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 11:48 yes, I was just reading through that 11:48 Mandevil was saying there's a similar system for DCSS tournaments 11:49 I think what we want is to encourage players to try diverse things, but not to completely freeze them out if they do repeats 11:56 Another possibility is value the ascensions based on how many of that given combo there are. 11:56 So Val-Dwa is worth less than Ran-Gno 11:57 I like diminishing returns better 12:00 in part because getting people to agree on the correct ranking would be a nightmare 12:02 congrats to teamsplat for getting the best score per player (excepting two single-player clans) 12:02 elenmirie_: The ranking would be mathematically defined. 12:03 By how many were done in the tournament already? 12:04 ^ semantic analysis failed 12:04 um, what dataset would be the basis of mathematical ranking? 12:05 elenmirie_: I got it. 12:05 elenmirie_: Yeah, it would be continuously variable based on games played. 12:05 that's intriguing... 12:05 elenmirie_: It would start even and then would be modified by some 1/n type of formula. 12:06 so, over time, your ascensions already done would diminish in value, as others did more of them? 12:06 Well, that depends on implementation. 12:07 In DCSS they take the values when you start a game and then they are fixed (for that game) 12:07 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 12:07 So it makes sense to play 'easy' combo early when the value hasn't depreciated. 12:07 gosh, there are lots of implications to that 12:07 -!- theRaisse has joined #tnnt 12:07 yes, that being one that springs to mind 12:08 You can also just make your old games more/less valuable. 12:08 Which is kinda messy. 12:08 But interesting. 12:08 You can also sort of "gang up" on a role to devalue it, I think 12:09 Sure. 12:09 I guess it makes sense in DCSS (where some combos are really difficul) but in nethack even quite hard combos are not that much harder. 12:10 Well, these are just ideas. 12:10 There surely are other ways too. 12:12 yeah, we've got most of a whole year! ;) 12:27 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 12:27 -!- raisse is now known as Guest5182 12:28 -!- Guest5182 is now known as raisse 12:49 -!- ShivanHunter_ has joined #tnnt 12:50 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 94 points, 250 turns, killed by a newt (and one other game not reported) 12:52 -!- ShivanHunter has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:07 [EU] [D]: benthor (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 332 points, 1226 turns, killed by a wand 13:49 [EU] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a lemure, on T:36855 13:51 -!- AlbertB has joined #tnnt 13:53 A polymorph trap turned me into a f***ing lemure in Dlvl 24. Will this go away on it's own? Or what are my options? 13:54 it will, but it will take time 13:54 throwing a weapon upwards will turn you back (death from HP loss makes you revert to your original form) 13:57 Thanks, I'll try this. Any options for my formelry Titan pet that was also converted to a sewer rat? 13:58 feed him a chameleon corpse? 14:06 -!- AlbertB_ has joined #tnnt 14:07 How can I throw a weapon "up"? Throwing "." gives: You cannot throw an object at yourself. 14:07 '<' is up. 14:09 Thanks. 14:16 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased bag of holding", on T:29792 14:17 -!- Tmasher has joined #tnnt 14:21 -!- Tmasher has quit [Client Quit] 14:22 the death message will just be by falling object 14:39 -!- greqrg has joined #tnnt 14:43 -!- ais523 has joined #tnnt 14:43 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:44 -!- AlbertB_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:44 -!- AlbertB has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:59 -!- PeterQ has left #tnnt 15:06 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:32668 15:06 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32669 15:06 -!- Grassy has joined #tnnt 15:08 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:23 -!- bebing has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:58 -!- Xaleth has joined #tnnt 16:06 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 16:10 -!- lorimer has left #tnnt 16:31 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:34979 16:42 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 16:43 [US] [D]: atorox (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 386 points, 1127 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 17:10 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:37174 18:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:11 great feedback in the survey and reddit post so far, keep it coming ;) 18:13 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 18:20 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:39598 18:21 Some Watery Tart! 18:31 !time 18:31 deadnoob: 2018-12-01 18:31:27 UTC. 2019 Tournament begins in 334d 05:28:32 18:31 :o 18:31 so we can play tnnt year round 18:31 swapchest so cool 18:39 deadnoob no you wont be able to play year round 18:39 tnnt is still up so people with games that were far along can finish, but they wont count 18:40 i'm turning tnnt 'off' after the weekend 18:41 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (arch-lich), on T:40723 18:41 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:40729 19:13 -!- Araganor has joined #tnnt 19:15 -!- Araganor has quit [Client Quit] 20:01 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 264 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:43488 20:02 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:43537 20:03 [US] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:30060 20:08 [US] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:30450 20:17 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 73 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:44369 20:18 [US] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:31069 20:28 -!- URAQT has joined #tnnt 20:29 -!- URAQT is now known as Grasshopper 20:29 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:45141 20:29 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:45142 20:31 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:45183 20:31 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:39 [US] oh6 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:45675 21:05 -!- ShivanHunter_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:40 [US] IceBox (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:16413 22:18 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #tnnt 22:19 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:25 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:28 -!- elenmirie__ has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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