00:00 DAILY STATS AT 2018-11-19 00:00 UTC: Games: 149, Asc: 9, Scum: 3. 969005 turns, 20832784 points. 12d 02:11 gametime. (42%Wiz), (59%Hum), (53%Cha), (56%Fem), 11d 23:59 remaining. 00:02 meh, I kinda like it being open-ended like this. I've put in junk when I just needed to get something, but I've also put in WoWs and stuff 00:02 one time I had three wands of wishing and I put them all in at (0:0) :P 00:02 [US] Xaleth (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:1591 00:03 also you should be able to put in artifacts imo 00:04 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1827 points, 2524 turns, killed by a dwarf king 00:07 putting in artifacts isn't feasible 00:10 [US] [D]: Xaleth (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2282 points, 3033 turns, killed by a watch captain (and 1 others) 00:12 i guess i'm just trying to think of ways to address the kinds of situation that caused the negative feelings rebatela had, and that i sympathize with 00:15 -!- Elron has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:16 interesting - all the statues around Oracle are smashed 8^P 00:16 Allowing artifacts would be a gigantic coding headache. so no artifacts. 00:18 raisse's bonez helping me out this game - just have to avoid YASD 00:20 had 2 boots of speed, cloak of MR, a stack of rings, BoH - good stuff 00:21 -!- ykkie has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:23 [US] [D]: Xaleth (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1240 points, 1964 turns, killed by a water demon 00:23 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +3 helm of brilliance", on T:22702 00:24 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:22704 00:26 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:22759 00:30 [backscroll] I called it awhile back before the tournament ever started 00:30 human nature being what it is, the swap chest will be mostly basic items, with the occasional gem here and there 00:32 but yeah how good or not the items are is relativ, meaning it's going to depend on your current situation 00:32 *relative 00:33 spellbook of light might seem 'meh' but it could be a godsend if you need an easy way to train up divination skill for that spellbook of identify you started with 00:40 [tnnt] NHTangles pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/fpcdA 00:40 tnnt/master 0c9ddd5 Tangles: livelog - don't spam log with lots of not-so-unique kills 00:40 K2: ^ 00:40 on it 00:41 [US] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3586 00:41 It's a bit quick and dirty because I'm at work, but much easier to fix livelog issues in the code that generats them, rather than the bot that just blindly reports what it's told to. 00:41 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1282 points, 3594 turns, killed by a killer bee 00:42 TNNT updated (all server) 00:42 s 00:42 Thanks mate :) 00:42 [US] [D]: Glord (Arc-Hum-Fem-Law), 1125 points, 2561 turns, killed by a sewer rat, while sleeping 00:42 o/ 00:42 so will it say 'so and so kill death x times' ? 00:42 or just report the one 00:43 i havent looked at the commit yet heh 00:43 It'll report the first one and other key milestones. 00:43 [US] [D]: Xaleth (Pri-Hum-Mal-Cha), 886 points, 2233 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted kitten 00:43 as per the code, it's fairly easy to read. 00:43 i will look here in a sec 00:43 adding a new bit to evilhack :P 00:44 Actually it doesn't handle Medusa, who is a special case, so you can stone-to-flesh her while wearing an amulet of reflection all day long and still be annoying. 00:47 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:26738 00:48 devteam should setup a condition for stone to flesh... say, after casting the spell on the same monster 3 times, after third time the stone just crumbles instead of reverting back to flesh 00:48 [US] [D]: Xaleth (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 104 points, 880 turns, died of starvation, while fainted (and 2 others) 00:48 just too much magic/stress 00:56 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:27379 00:56 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27381 00:57 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10709 00:58 [US] [D]: Glord (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 359 points, 2428 turns, killed by a goblin 01:01 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 209 points, 735 turns, killed by a gnome 01:03 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:28248 01:03 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:28249 01:04 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:28251 01:06 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:44878 01:07 [US] [D]: Xaleth (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1079 points, 1960 turns, killed by a kitten (and 2 others) 01:07 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:44892 01:11 [US] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:1378 01:11 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:44943 01:12 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:12 -!- remirol has joined #tnnt 01:16 -!- Noims has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:23 [US] [D]: Glord (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 111 points, 1378 turns, killed by the wrath of Quetzalcoatl (and 1 others) 01:26 [US] zoya (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:67251 01:32 -!- shadowcat has joined #tnnt 01:32 [US] [D]: k2 (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 52 points, 426 turns, killed by a newt (and 1 others) 01:39 -!- shadowcat has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:42 -!- eerr has joined #tnnt 01:42 [US] [D]: eerr (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1873 points, 5994 turns, killed by a wolf 01:42 I just got robbed blind by a nymph 01:42 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:45353 01:42 she took everything I had, then even more when I came back 01:43 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:45356 01:43 I lost too many points of wisdom to hallucination abuse. 01:43 [Ac] eerr just earned Who's That Pretty Girl in the Mirror, There?. 01:46 [US] [D]: k2 (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 776 points, 2102 turns, killed by a giant bat (and 1 others) 01:46 eerr: at least you got the nymph-deflecting achievement 01:50 [US] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:7653 01:50 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 782 points, 2500 turns, killed by a gnome lord 01:51 -!- Tmasher has joined #tnnt 01:52 [US] [D]: k2 (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 276 points, 626 turns, killed by a wand (and 1 others) 01:56 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:45553 02:00 Hourly Stats at 2018-11-19 02:00 UTC: Games: 12, Asc: 0, Scum: 1. 0d 02:44 gametime. (55%Pri), 11d 21:59 remaining. 02:02 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:45745 02:05 !who 02:05 Tangles_: [EU] No current players | [US] telegarn hothraxxa sal shadowcat eraserhead97 Karnac dreadpirateA hypnotist | [AU] Mishka 02:09 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:32690 02:12 -!- Xaleth has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 02:18 [US] [D]: dreadpirateA (Mon-Hum-Fem-Law), 47290 points, 11108 turns, killed by a fire elemental 02:19 [Ac] dreadpirateA just earned The Most Dangerous Game, It's Called That For a Reason, and Neutralized. 02:26 [US] [D]: Karnac (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 10074 points, 7984 turns, killed by a fire giant 02:39 stealth in throne rooms always feels like cheating 02:41 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 silver spear", on T:33082 02:41 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 helm of telepathy", on T:33082 02:42 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:33087 02:45 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed historic burning magic harp named zeena parkins", on T:46929 02:58 [US] sbj (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:32531 02:59 [US] [D]: Tmasher (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 888 points, 2196 turns, killed by a giant ant, while fainted from lack of food 03:03 [US] [D]: dreadpirateA (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 397 points, 622 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 03:07 [US] [D]: Karnac (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1873 points, 2556 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted barrow wight 03:10 [US] [D]: Karnac (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 36 points, 294 turns, killed by a water demon 03:12 -!- tacco\unfoog has quit [] 03:20 [US] [D]: Karnac (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 327 points, 644 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 03:21 [US] [D]: Tmasher (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 613 points, 1918 turns, killed by a giant ant 03:30 -!- scorchgeek has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:33 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:34045 03:33 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34046 03:41 [US] [D]: Eleven (Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha), 516 points, 1054 turns, killed by a rabid rat 03:48 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:55 every time i get a marble wand now, i'm going to think "meat stick" 03:57 [US] Karnac (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (cockatrice), on T:2490 04:11 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 04:12 [US] Karnac (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3461 04:15 [US] [D]: Graydot (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 218 points, 823 turns, killed by a bat 04:16 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:35815 04:16 -!- Graydot- has joined #tnnt 04:17 !asc Graydot 04:17 Graydot-: [EU] No ascensions for Graydot. | [US] Graydot has ascended 2 times in 12 games (16.67%): 1xVal 1xWiz, 1xElf 1xDwa, 1xLaw 1xCha, 2xFem. | [AU] No ascensions for Graydot. 04:19 -!- Tmasher has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:22 [US] [D]: Graydot (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 318 points, 422 turns, killed by an electric shock (and 1 others) 04:22 ouch two trapped chest deaths in a row 04:26 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:37007 04:29 -!- ThatJared has joined #tnnt 04:30 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:36868 04:33 [US] [D]: Karnac (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 7169 points, 4033 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted yeti 04:34 [Ac] Karnac just earned Tainted. 04:44 [US] [D]: Karnac (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 830 points, 1321 turns, killed by a giant spider 04:45 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:37426 04:53 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:37903 04:54 -!- ThatJared has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:00 -!- kcostell has joined #tnnt 05:01 Do wand ray reflections off walls obey the laws of physics in terms of angles? e.g. I am standing one square SW of a pit viper, with a horizontal wall directly above the viper. If I shoot NE at the viper, will the reflected beam go back at me or will it reflect SE instead? 05:02 -!- Hydro_ has joined #tnnt 05:05 it will reflect SE, with the ray traveling through the square two units east of the viper 05:05 as if the point of reflection were within the center of the wall tile 05:06 -!- Graydot- has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:06 Thanks 05:06 np 05:08 beams also will reflect back in the direction of casting with low (IIRC 5%) probability 05:08 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:39045 05:09 *rays, not beams 05:09 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Ray#Bouncing_rays 05:09 oh, huh. Did not know that. 05:13 [US] kcostell (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6127 05:14 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39331 05:14 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:39339 05:14 [US] [D]: Karnac (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1742 points, 2320 turns, killed by a gray unicorn 05:17 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:17523 05:22 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 28468 points, 13246 turns, killed by a killer bee 05:23 [Ac] shadowcat just earned The Most Dangerous Game. 05:27 [EU] [D]: BEHiker91W (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1231 points, 737 turns, killed by a hill orc 05:30 Does anyone else train dagget skill by throwing an orcish dagger at gas spores repeatedly? 05:31 it IS a little bit silly that thrown daggers and melee daggers are the same exact skill 05:32 Hm 05:37 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:40143 05:38 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:40153 05:38 usually when I play rogue I just dual wield and bash things with knives and sabers, but this is the first time i'm playing a dagger-throwy rogue 05:38 at least, in a long long time. and.... hot damn rogues are OP 05:40 <@IceBox> man i was having such an easy time with a dagger-throwing ranger but for some reason having a hard time getting a rogue off the ground with the same strat 05:40 <@IceBox> probably just playing carelessly/too cocky 05:41 <@IceBox> cuz after struggling with rangers for a long time, i streaked like 3 in a row with limited help from the swap chest 😉 05:41 Or you found enchanted daggers? 05:42 i don't want the nethack devs to take my toy away, i like being able to kill winged gargoyles in one round at a distance with ammo that never breaks 05:42 <@IceBox> in one of the 3 i did indeed find some nice +1 daggers, but it was always stacks of +0 otherwise 05:42 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:40248 05:42 <@IceBox> yeah i didn't actually know that daggers were non-mulching until tnnt 05:42 <@IceBox> just playing bump chumps till now 05:43 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #tnnt 05:43 level 7 is the minimum level at which i can get rogues to the max dagger skill, so i'm kind of thinking that after I gain entry to the quest i'll drain myself back to level 7 and be on easy street 05:44 How will you drain yourself? 05:44 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 686 points, 2926 turns, killed by a giant ant 05:44 i trapped a wraith in a small room in mine town, it can't get out but it can attack me diagonally, so I just stand there and let it drain me 05:45 pretty much all my nethack characters are psychopaths, if I were really roleplaying 05:45 :) 05:46 Hilarious. 05:46 VotD swap chest does not want a +6 Fire Brand. what DOES it want? 05:46 No artifacts. 05:46 [EU] [D]: BEHiker91W (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 1695 points, 719 turns, killed by a human zombie 05:46 oh, thanks 05:46 -6 unicorn horn? 05:47 [Ac] BEHiker91W just earned 9 new achievements. 05:47 I might take a -6 unicorn horn. Not like I'm actually going to stab things with it. 05:47 ^^ 05:47 !lastgame 05:47 Andrio: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/B/BEHiker91W/tnnt/dumplog/1542605423.tnnt.txt | [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowcat/tnnt/dumplog/1542577131.tnnt.txt | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Andrio/tnnt/dumplog/1542604351.tnnt.txt 05:48 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:40386 05:48 Nine achievements in 719 turns when I already had 76 of them. #DfV 05:49 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:40387 05:52 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:40458 05:55 oh I hadn't chatted with the devteam without any scroll of missing code yet 05:56 "You can finally wish for oranges. Now go away." 05:56 hah hah 05:57 the dialogue is very true to character. did you ask people what they wanted to say? 05:57 :/ 06:00 Current Day as of 2018-11-19 06:00 UTC: Games: 47, Asc: 0, Scum: 9. 90335 turns, 118812 points. 0d 19:45 gametime. (34%Val), (47%Hum), (50%Law), (53%Mal), 11d 17:59 remaining. 06:02 on castle, if I zap a teleportation wand at a minotaur, will it work? 06:03 yep 06:03 just yourself that can't teleport 06:03 ic - ty 06:03 worked great ^^ saved me 8^P 06:04 just watch out for where it went 06:04 yeah - they hit hard - he's on the other side, but I might forget coming back down - just gotta be cautious 06:04 there's always the possibility to get extremely unlucky and it lands just around the next corner 06:08 that would be a very NH-ish thing to happen... 06:13 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:18973 06:14 Is there a way to see in game what conducts you still have active? 06:14 #conduct 06:15 Thanks 06:15 also alt-w on my keyboard does it 06:16 [US] kcostell (Pri Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:9605 06:22 -!- telegarn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:28 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:6507 06:29 [US] dingotron (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "Magic marker", on T:30250 06:29 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:19051 06:31 -!- jonadab has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:32 [US] dingotron (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:30255 06:34 [US] dingotron (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed +2 Staff of Aesculapius", on T:30257 06:36 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:38 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 06:40 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "a blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:9192 06:40 -!- remirol has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:40 apparently that wasn't an ordinary lamp after all. 06:41 -!- lorimer has joined #tnnt 06:41 You see here a figurine of a cockatrice. 06:41 hm 06:42 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:43 -!- lorimer has joined #tnnt 06:45 [US] kcostell (Pri Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:13102 06:46 The large cat turns into a Kop Sergeant! 06:46 All Cats Are Beautiful. 06:48 Muad: http://wiki.china.org.cn/wiki/images/0/02/Sergeant_Black_Cat.JPEG 06:48 that's him 06:48 definitely! 06:49 Sokoban was a pain in the arse. Special thanks to the gnome with the wand of digging and the co-aligned unicorn who refused to get out of the way for far too long 06:50 I had something zap digging on the top level of soko a while ago and I fell through the shaft all the way down, very convenient 06:50 *after* I'd grabbed the gold and the holdybag 06:50 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Mon-Hum-Mal-Law), 2354 points, 2828 turns, killed by a gnome king (and 3 others) 06:51 that "and x others" message makes it look like a posse 06:51 would it be possible to test for number so it doesn't say "and 1 others"? 06:51 Tangles_: ^ 06:51 I had a xorn (!) in sokoban with a taste for expensive meals 06:51 some $4000, that is 06:51 a xorn! your soko must have been very deep 06:52 and/or your XP level very high 06:52 i don't know if it was a chameleon, since I just ran after that 06:52 it's mostly rock moles that munch all the gold before you can get at it 06:52 ooh a conical hat, dare I try it on? 06:52 (it's currently not cursed) 06:53 oh it *is* currently cursed, the cat doesn't like it 06:53 actually that makes me feel it's more likely to be a cornuthaum because I usually see dunce caps start out uncursed 06:54 You fall into a pit! There is a pit here. 06:54 yes, I'd noticed that, thank you very muchy 06:58 raisse: I don't understand the question. Do I need to phrase it differently because everyone thinks "others" means "other monsters"? or is it just the incorrect pluralisation of "1 others" that you're objecting to? I can probably fix the latter, and would take suggestions on the former :) 06:58 [US] [D]: kcostell (Pri-Hum-Mal-Cha), 47398 points, 14497 turns, killed by an invisible stalker 06:59 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:19638 06:59 [Ac] kcostell just earned Palantir. 06:59 Tangles_: both (though not "everyone" probably, just me with my strange brain and some other people I've seen commenting on it) 06:59 Bah...I done screwed up :( 07:00 the "and x others" with x>1 looks more like a YAFM, I don't object to it 07:00 Is Lord Surtur human? (Is it cannibalism if I eat him as a human?) 07:00 just find it funny but it might be confusing for some people 07:00 Wanted to clear out the big room by standing on the upstairs almost surrounded by boulders and fleeing up as necessary. Forgot that some creatures follow you right back up 07:00 eraserhead: he's a giant 07:00 raisse: coolios - thx 07:00 I think you can even gain strength from him 07:00 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:19639 07:01 raisse: yes - it worked - gained STR ^^ 07:05 how does it even determine how many others contributed to your death? 07:05 is it just monsters adjacent? monsters that hit in the last turn? 07:06 Tangles_: see, attie is confused 07:06 attie: it's not all the monsters that killed you in that game, but this game and the x games before that that were too short for croesus to report separately 07:07 oh! 07:07 well in that case why make note of it 07:07 -!- livingstone.freenode.net changed the topic on #tnnt to: Discussion of TNNT: The November Nethack Tournament :: The Tournament has started!! Good luck and have fun everyone!! 07:07 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v Croesus] by ChanServ 07:07 because otherwise people would think the bot was broken for not reporting their games? 07:08 [EU] Muad (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:28137 07:08 but it still doesn't report if you die too early 07:08 (in other words, I don't see the point myself, I have mintc set to 5000 for beholder) 07:08 so I don't see how that helps at all 07:09 it was done originally to prevent message spam from people who start a lot of games and play sloppily, like webmant and me 07:09 wouldn't it be better to have a regular update on how many games were suppressed/scummed 07:09 the r-strategists 07:10 ok I worked around the pluralisation issue. 07:11 I insisted that very early *deaths* shouldn't be considered scumming because people who do it deliberately (as opposed to the r-strategists) usually quit or escape, and that would deprive people who die accidentally of the "never scummed" trophy 07:12 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #tnnt 07:12 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14459 07:13 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Mon-Hum-Mal-Law), 459 points, 480 turns, killed by a boiling potion (and 1 more) 07:14 Tangles_: cool! 07:15 yes! I have a cursed cornuthaum 07:15 it's -1, I'll wait until I have enchant armor or cancellation 07:17 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 1268 points, 2424 turns, killed by a dwarf lord 07:17 !lastgame 07:17 raisse: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/tnnt/dumplog/1542609847.tnnt.txt | [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/BEHiker91W/tnnt/dumplog/1542610264.tnnt.txt | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Andrio/tnnt/dumplog/1542604351.tnnt.txt 07:20 raisse: my current run is powered by your bones on DLvl:7 (Raiss-Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha, killed by a hill orc) - really great loot 07:21 is that the one where I cleared out the jewelers? 07:21 could be - there were a lot of rings in the bag (and 2 pairs of speed boots, cloak of MR, plus lots of other goodies) 07:22 about 10 assorted rings? 07:22 that sounds about right 07:22 yes, I remember that hill orc, I hope you bashed his face in for me 07:23 yup - I took care of 'im 8^) 07:23 I think I was saving the extra speed boots to put in the swap chest 07:25 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 185 points, 787 turns, killed by a small mimic 07:28 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:20211 07:30 Upernavik offers 250 gold pieces for your wand called stop iridium. Sell it? 07:30 nooo! 07:31 what do you have against iridium, again? 07:31 the same as against copper 07:32 if wands of stop bugs are made of it 07:32 (and yes, I do have something against bugs) 07:32 :o 07:33 disenchanter can debuff BUC? 07:33 I think my Mjollnir lost its B - but not sure... 07:34 they don't do that 07:34 probably a lich 07:34 good guess - I did throw it at a Lich earlier - thx for the sanity check! ^^ 07:35 it can unbless when you throw it? I thought you had to wield it and catch the curse like that 07:36 touching (during a throw is bad enough to rust/disenchant daggers, for example) is enough I think 07:37 that's why I don't bother enchanting Mjollnir - so I can throw them at disenchanters 07:38 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 2 daggers on an altar, on T:3321 07:40 You see a bag containing one item (133 Zorkmids). Inside the bag: 135 Zorkmids. Yay for free money, I guess? 07:42 Yay 07:42 Just need your pet to steal it. 07:49 [US] [D]: kcostell (Pri-Hum-Mal-Cha), 4026 points, 4852 turns, killed by a kitten 07:50 The large cat devours an uncursed tripe ration. The large cat turns into a baby crocodile! 07:50 I swear that I didn't soak the tripe ration in potion of polymorph. 07:50 [Ac] kcostell just earned Potions of Booze Cost More Than That. 07:51 ah, now I also have a cat that stays a cat 07:52 I wish I had a magic whistle, herding cats is hard (especially if they're so shifty) 07:53 ha, rust monster, touch me all you like, my dagger is wood and I took off my hard hat 07:57 -!- eraserhead has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:59 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 4492 points, 5744 turns, killed by an ettin mummy 08:13 https://www.dropbox.com/s/18dvizmh1qt6ien/Screenshot%202018-11-19%2019.13.13.png?raw=1 - I wonder how long long worms get. 08:15 maybe a Snake could answer that 08:18 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:19 Maybe 08:19 -!- lorimer has joined #tnnt 08:26 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:27043 08:30 ooh nice, "x of y segments" 08:31 I once let a long worm grow in a big room and it filled more than half the room when I eventually had to kill it because it was in the way 08:31 nice 08:43 [US] BEHiker91W (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3652 08:52 -!- eraserhead has joined #tnnt 08:56 [EU] Muad (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:28811 08:56 Strange...the wiki says "All unlocking tools are generated uncursed unless found on a Bones level." But my priest just found a cursed lockpick on DL 2 08:58 [EU] [D]: Mandevil (Hea-Hum-Fem-Neu), 387 points, 1177 turns, killed by an orc zombie 08:59 kcostell: Was it on a pile with a corpse and few other items? 09:00 It was on a rock trap. Don't remember if the monster killed by the rock was on the trap or not 09:00 Yes, that's a special case. 09:00 The game generates a trap with a corpse and few usually cursed items. 09:00 as if it's bones from the corpse 09:01 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 124 points, 373 turns, killed by a kobold zombie 09:01 ah, interesting. I always thought the corpses on the traps were monsters generated elsewhere in the level that walked onto it 09:02 it's engineered to give that impression 09:03 My wizard found Vorpal Blade on the floor; is it worth trying to use it? 09:03 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 113 points, 448 turns, killed by a sewer rat 09:04 if you really want to wield something else than magicbane, you can sacrifice until Thoth or Anhur gives you another long sword, to unrestrict it 09:06 mm 09:09 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 466 points, 1435 turns, killed by a dagger 09:15 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 759 points, 984 turns, killed by a gnome 09:24 [US] kcostell (Pri Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4418 09:24 [US] BEHiker91W (Mon Hum Mal Law) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4587 09:35 oops 09:35 ? 09:39 [US] BEHiker91W (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:5463 09:40 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:1526 09:48 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:23299 09:48 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:23303 09:48 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:23304 09:51 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) averted death, on T:36808 09:52 I've been eating corpses like pacman, but I still can't get poison and fire resistance. Can I get by with rings in Gehennom or should I keep trying? 09:53 I've been checking with /oEnlightenment 10:02 As a last ditch, you can always get crowned 10:02 kcostell: that's an idea - thx ^^ 10:03 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:23422 10:04 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 4027 points, 6029 turns, killed by an elf mummy 10:06 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 30 points, 184 turns, killed by a jackal 10:14 -!- stennowork has joined #tnnt 10:16 Interesting: cursed +1 plate mail 10:16 that trap bones thing? 10:19 No 10:19 It could have been the one from the Rogue floor, actually. 10:21 who put a lieutenant corpse into the closet behind the iron bars 10:22 [EU] Kontroller (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:20579 10:24 The captain? 10:24 lol 10:25 oh captain, my capt-huarg 10:29 raisse, happy to help with that WoW I didn't need :) 10:32 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:24041 10:43 h a humanoid (master mind-flayer) [seen: telepathy] You know what? I think maybe the luckstone can wait a while. 10:47 huh 10:47 since when is it mind-flayer 10:47 Mine levels have one random h, with no restriction on what it is 10:48 no, with the '-' 10:48 I was manually retyping instead of C+P 10:48 ah fair 10:48 ah 10:49 i think genociding 'master mind-flayer' as a monk will kill you 10:50 yes, because the parser reads that as genociding 'master' 10:53 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "the blessed greased rustproof Master Key of Thievery", on T:43247 10:53 mkot ftw 10:54 artiwishing on T:42347 ftw! 10:54 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 593 points, 1235 turns, killed by a manes 10:54 ^^ 10:54 Any bets on what this chameleon will turn into? 10:54 L 10:54 master lich 10:54 jabberwock 10:54 purple L 10:54 or a kitty-cat, and then you can toss it a fortune cookie 10:55 Quantum mechanic 10:55 it both is and isn't a quantum mechanic at the same time :o 10:55 Indeed. 10:56 stennowork: are dashes not stripped by the parser? 10:56 So it turned into a steam vortex, engulfed us, turned into a snake, got reduced to 1 HP, turned into a jackal with 1 max HP, then turned into a white unicorn with full HP. An interesting way to heal yourself. 10:56 attie, hmm maybe 10:56 probably hyphens connected to both words aren't 10:58 Please don't drown yourself 10:59 -!- eerr has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:59 "master mind-flayer" does indeed kill you as Monk 10:59 [EU] [D]: swegen (Pri-Elf-Mal-Cha), 426 points, 1816 turns, killed by a large kobold, while fainted from lack of food 11:00 ShivanHunter, it was with the Castle wand by the way. 11:00 Interestingly, "master mindflayer" works but "mastermindflayer" doesn't 11:01 ah 11:01 I was mostly marvelling at not having generated too many artis by that point 11:01 Magicbane and Vorpal Blade 11:01 Kinda lucky, yeah. 11:01 :o 11:01 Hm, more Medusa statues embedded in walls 11:02 several games ago I burned two wishes on the mkot after having generated two artis. Didn't get it :/ 11:02 ouch. 11:02 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:56091 11:03 it's annoying that it's not transparent for the player how many artifacts are already generated 11:03 Someone at the Castle had a +5 small shield, too. 11:04 Hmm. Yeah, I've toyed with the idea of leaving a perfectly innocuous-looking bones file with five artifacts buried underneath random floor tiles 11:04 [US] BEHiker91W (Mon Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9302 11:05 but it's a pretty low chance of that actually ending up screwing someone over and I don't think the game would ever make it explicit what happened, which takes all the fun out of it 11:06 for maximum evilness, include excalibur and die on dlvl 4 or so 11:06 lol yeah, and magicbane 11:06 watch the person who finds your bones be lawful and dip into every single fountain in the game 11:06 "Why was my first sac gift Orcrist?!?!?!" 11:07 one of the reasons why i play with !bones :) 11:07 no nasty surprises like that 11:07 Nasty surprises are great 11:07 it's really rare to have that kind of surprise though 11:08 nasty surprises are nasty and therefore should be avoided :v 11:08 also I still haven't managed to find bones, very annoying 11:08 need some for the "see a bones pile" achievement 11:09 Sure you don't have it disabled in your config file? The server's been full of bones lately 11:09 maybe not on AU :P 11:09 I think they get copied over though 11:09 o 11:09 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:09 I've gotten bones from EUers like Raisse 11:10 you play AU too? 11:10 US 11:10 oh Andrio is AU, i see 11:10 bones [true] 11:10 Hmm. Maybe just bad luck then 11:10 [US] kcostell (Pri Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:8888 11:10 The Grey-elf seems to be moving slower. The Grey-elf slows down. 11:11 Andrio: shenanigans w/c? 11:11 bones are copied over, swap chest contents are server-specific 11:12 > 11:12 ? 11:13 ! 11:13 + 11:13 ook? ook! 11:14 oooooog. 11:16 woah, nellie - just opened a tin of cockatrices! rofl 11:16 Yum 11:17 eraserhead seems to be moving slower. eraserhead slows down. 11:18 that's a sign that I need to get some zzz's - gn 11:19 -!- eraserhead has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:20 [EU] [D]: Dins (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1673 points, 3569 turns, killed by a kobold mummy, while frozen by a monster's gaze 11:22 'To enter the Tower of Darkness you must pass many traps.' You find a trap on the chest! 11:23 trapped quest chest nearly killed me once 11:23 i wonder if it could be considered a bug, like a trapped castle chest 11:24 probably 11:24 quest leader does specifically say you can take stuff from it 11:24 well, Neferet does 11:26 -!- Muad has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:27 -!- remirol has joined #tnnt 11:27 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:29 oh, the really cool shirt gives warning 11:29 nice 11:30 don't even have to wear it! 11:30 (which is a bug apparently :P) 11:30 it's a luckstone too! 11:30 oh, so I gotta make sure it stays uncursed? 11:31 yep, or have 2 blessed luckstones as a backup 11:31 [US] kcostell (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10661 11:31 that is only an option after I acquire a bag. 11:32 does it resist cursing like most artifacts do? 11:32 right now I am - once again - unwillingly playing ais' favorite conduct 11:32 bagless? 11:32 i thought only Intelligent artis would resist cursing 11:32 yep 11:32 heh 11:32 (i.e. thats why Cleaver is so bad, it's not intelligent but a two-hander) 11:32 stennowork: you are probably right 11:33 they should've made ais diss bags if you chat to him in the devteam level :P 11:33 Yeah, ok 11:33 lol attie! 11:33 IIRC he just says something about NH4 being fair 11:33 does lorimer praise orctown? 11:34 lorimer says "Talk to me about orctown!" :D 11:34 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:47228 11:34 hehe great 11:34 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:47231 11:35 ais talks about limiting the player's inventory I think 11:35 ahhhh so Lorimer is the one I should have killed :P 11:36 [EU] elenmirie (Ran Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6183 11:36 oh, they have multiple messages 11:36 I got the same message multiple times before, so I thought they each had one phrase 11:36 lorimer probably also points out that his variant is balanced 11:36 they all have a few lines 11:36 lol 11:37 ais should say "NH4 has an awesome build system" 11:37 "NetHack is just a mound of special cases taped together by global variables." 11:37 shots fired 11:37 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:47523 11:37 "Ais discusses limiting the player's inventory." there it is. 11:38 [US] BEHiker91W (Mon Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a white dragon, on T:10112 11:38 "Bhaak starts swearing at you in German." What did I do? 11:39 D: 11:40 "Denial is a valid bug resolution technique." I like that one. 11:40 that's actually a qdb quote 11:40 attie: I just said "ich hoffe, du findest die Schriftrollen" but you know how German sounds 11:40 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?447 11:40 lol 11:41 so, since you're here bhaak, did you actually have input in what the devteam monsters say? 11:41 no. I already complained about the German cursing :-) 11:42 did you complain by cursing in german at them 11:42 "Ihr Schlingel!" 11:42 I think I never cursed in German on irc at all 11:43 you cursed to me in PM once 11:43 Ais encourages you to try ascending with a large box. 11:44 I already have stashes every other level >., 11:44 >.< 11:45 If I'm going for an non-lawful atheist priest, is there anything better in terms of weapons I could try for than just wishing for Frost Brand? 11:46 neutral wants the Staff 11:46 chaotic is screwed :P 11:47 Staff of Aesculapius that is 11:47 Chaotic it is 11:48 magicbane is the best weapon 11:48 last Ranger game I genocided L and *still* ended up with a cursed BoH 11:54 -!- scorchgeek has joined #tnnt 12:00 Current Day as of 2018-11-19 12:00 UTC: Games: 65, Asc: 0, Scum: 10. 139198 turns, 187597 points. 1d 06:08 gametime. (36%Wiz), (49%Hum), (40%Law), (55%Fem), 11d 11:59 remaining. 12:05 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 2291 points, 5150 turns, killed by a dwarf 12:06 [US] kcostell (Pri Hum Mal Cha) made his first artifact wish - "blessed fixed +2 frost brand", on T:11158 12:12 Grayscale dragons at the castle (some gray dragons, a black dragon and a white dragon) 12:13 Two of them immediately started hitting each other 12:13 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 139 points, 563 turns, killed by a sewer rat 12:14 [US] kcostell (Pri Hum Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:11766 12:18 There was a 39-segment long worm in the castle, and it trapped itself in one of the turrets 12:18 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:51648 12:21 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2722 12:24 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 1006 points, 3296 turns, killed by a dwarf 12:29 I found Poes at the devteam place 12:29 -!- kcostell has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:34 -!- Tmasher has joined #tnnt 12:35 '7th of 41 segments' 12:39 yes, there are a lot of devs' and alpha testers' pets at the devteam place 12:39 also elenmirie's Yermak and mandevil's Micka 12:40 whose woodchuck is Carl? 12:40 tangles I think 12:40 (not sure) 12:43 -!- lorimer has joined #tnnt 12:43 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Anhur, on T:54539 12:43 -!- remirol has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:44 [AU] Tangles (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:4968 12:44 yay 12:45 attie: Carl is K2's woodchuck. 12:45 -!- scorchgeek has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:46 ah right 12:46 ok 12:46 btw thanks for the speed boots Tangles_ :) 12:46 I tamed him in the gnome wiz game but didn't get the How Much Wood achievement, perhaps that's buggy too 12:51 raisse: I tamed Carl too, and according to dumplog did not kill any woodchuck, so it must've worked for me 12:55 attie: I'm sort of responsible for the Lizard of Yendor, because I started maning my lizard corpse that, after seeing Grasshopper name his the Lizard of Oz, but I doubt I'm the first to have thought of it. 12:56 the Lizard of Yendor is great fun. Where is MR SHOUTY from? 12:56 and I stole the Lizard of Yendor name from Tangles_ 12:56 the Lizard of Oz is nice to! 12:56 too* 12:57 Pierre must be aosdict's cat then 12:57 first time I got to the devteam's den I tamed all the cats for the Cat Lady achievement (needed 3 more and there they were) 12:59 -!- Dark7 has joined #tnnt 13:01 [US] shadowcat (Val Hum Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:593 13:02 eep that's a huge leppy hall 13:02 can't handle that right now 13:02 raisse: I guess it is my catname, though it's pretty much random 13:02 6x7 and the cat went inside and the door won't close 13:05 So is there anything more to know about the cool T-shirt? It's a luckstone, it's an artifact, it's a t-shirt, it reads out of the rumor file. That's all? 13:05 it gives 5 points of AC 13:05 Doesn't it also give warning? 13:05 it can be enchanted to +5 (so then it gives 10 points of AC) 13:05 yes, it does 13:06 it's cool :-) 13:06 Wait. It gives 5 points of AC? 13:06 Is that a rumour? 13:06 no, it's a fact 13:06 well, it's not doing that 13:06 hm, I wonder how I got to AC -40 the other day then 13:06 Nope. It gives 0 points of AC, just like a T-Shirt 13:07 with all my other stuff just enchanted as normal 13:07 hm, can't imagine how I got that wrong 13:07 perhaps I had more divine protection than I knew 13:08 [AU] Tangles (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:5786 13:08 There's a chest in the devteam hall. Is it an ordinary chest or is it something I need? 13:08 it's an ordinary "quest home" chest 13:08 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 457 points, 1176 turns, killed by a giant rat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 13:09 [AU] Tangles (Rog Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:5791 13:09 The original plan for the devteam quest reward was something that gave 5 points of AC slotless, but that was rejected for being too boring. 13:09 containing divination spellbooks afaik 13:09 ah right, that's how I could make that mistake 13:09 and anyway I enchanted mine to +5 which *did* give me 5 points of AC 13:10 It's nice to have a shirt. I usually have to polypile for one. 13:10 yes, and this one is really cool! 13:10 (Except when I'm playing tourist.) 13:11 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 13:12 [US] Tmasher (Cav Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4645 13:18 -!- Dark7 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:22 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (mind flayer), on T:3912 13:30 [AU] Tangles (Rog Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6698 13:30 argh I'm being hassled by a pair of grey unicorns 13:31 and the cat is still a kitten so won't fight them 13:32 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 5679 points, 4866 turns, killed by a winter wolf 13:33 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:33 -!- remirol has joined #tnnt 13:35 [US] Tmasher (Cav Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5128 13:38 [Ac] k2 just earned Gullible. 13:42 -!- remirol has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:42 -!- lorimer has joined #tnnt 13:44 [US] satori (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered Spot, her faithful kitten, on T:1884 13:44 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:59117 13:45 [US] [D]: satori (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1129 points, 2023 turns, killed by an orcish arrow 13:46 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:2832 13:46 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed historic partly eaten rusted sapphire named the star of yendor", on T:47274 13:47 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:3186 13:50 [AU] Tangles (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a dog, on T:7131 13:54 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "the holy historic poisoned diluted topaz named i'm not crazy anymore", on T:47279 14:00 Hourly Stats at 2018-11-19 14:00 UTC: Games: 20, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 0d 01:37 gametime. (85%Pri), 11d 09:59 remaining. 14:01 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "an uncursed magic marker", on T:59967 14:07 [AU] attie (Ran Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:29479 14:07 [US] lunatunez (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:22767 14:11 [US] lunatunez (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:22923 14:14 castle, no tonal, two minotaurs in the maze on the upstair side. 14:14 at least I have a scroll of scare monster? 14:15 there;s a lizard stuck in a web on soko4 and I can't push a boulder past it 14:15 and I've run out of ammo 14:15 worst case if I zap it with my vanish wand: invisible lizard 14:15 best case: boulder and lizard teleported away 14:15 Hmm 14:15 I've found myself going back through the dungeons for several levels collecting scimitars and stuff to throw in that situation 14:15 in-between case: waste a cancellation charge 14:16 This corpse smells like it could be tainted! Eat it anyway? 14:16 You resume your meal. You finish eating the black dragon corpse. 14:16 tainted, huh? 14:16 Andrio: I assume that was the randomly rotten meat that randomly had no effect 14:16 Tainted 14:16 oh right, 3 apes downstairs 14:18 taintedness also has a random component, right? 14:18 It does. 14:18 [US] sal (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:15101 14:19 ... and now I'm back with a pile of rocks and the lizard's gone. 14:19 probably in the corridor so I'll have to throw stuff at it after all, but no longer in the web (I am now in the web) 14:20 [US] lunatunez (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:23323 14:20 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:61604 14:27 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9999 14:29 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:10001 14:29 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 speed boots", on T:10010 14:31 * raisse belatedly realises she has a ring of conflict 14:31 I wonder why the messages that relate to riding an invisible steed omit the 'the' 14:33 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:63153 14:34 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:59700 14:34 like "you mount invisible Blinky"? 14:34 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:34 You aren't skilled enough to reach from invisible Celestia. 14:34 A few include the 'the'. 14:35 because if Celestia is not invisible, it doesn't say "You aren't skilled enough to reach from the Celestia". 14:35 -!- lorimer has joined #tnnt 14:35 Usually invisible monsters are referred to as 'the invisible Dark Matilda' etc. 14:35 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:35 hm 14:36 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #tnnt 14:36 but not always... I think death messages might omit it as well. 14:37 should use appositive phrases if they think it's so important to mention the invisible part. Would be funny too. :) "You've been through the dungeon on a horse, who is invisible, with no name" 14:37 as if some messages add "invisible" and others "the invisible" when something is invisible 14:37 [US] atorox (Tou Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3024 14:37 [US] lunatunez (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:24347 14:37 Celestia, who is invisible btw, is confused from hunger! 14:37 [US] lunatunez (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:24364 14:38 Unfortunately she's a ki-rin 14:38 Ki-rin can't have their armour class improved any more, right? 14:38 so -5 is as good as it's going to get? 14:38 ki-rin got majorly nerfed yeah 14:38 [US] BEHiker91W (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:16120 14:39 no more cornuthaum ki-rins 14:40 you might be able to get it to pick up the orb of detection for player-style MR... that's all I can think of. I had a pet master mind flayer in my pacifist game who picked up, and held onto, my PYEC. I was going crazy trying to find out where it had gotten to, and it was just keeping it 14:41 but MMF are "intelligent" and I don't know if ki-rin are (anymore) 14:41 unfortunately player-style MR doesn't prevent pets from getting level-ported by traps, so.... kinda what's the point 14:42 [AU] Tangles (Rog Hum Mal Cha) became literate by reading a book, on T:10425 14:42 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:60038 14:42 also MMF are chaotic so I have no idea if it's even a bug that it picked up and kept the PYEC 14:43 so by that logic maybe the ki-rin can carry a master key of thievery 14:45 [US] Tmasher (Cav Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a water moccasin, on T:6049 14:45 nooodle, oh wow you made a monster pick up a key? 14:47 [US] BEHiker91W (Mon Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:16388 14:47 no, but I'll try this game. The only time I've seen this happen was the paci game this tournament with the pet master mind flayer (who was also decked out in other gear, I went full ham). See, I had to do a levelport with a unicorn corpse, and because I was illiterate I was using a trap, which means I had to strip off all sources of MR. Like a fool I decided to just drop my PYEC, whereupon one of my pets picked it up. I was like 14:47 "whatever, I'll deal with this when I get back". But when I got back to the level, the PYEC was gone. 14:48 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:63838 14:48 [US] [D]: atorox (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2650 points, 4157 turns, killed by a soldier ant 14:48 I searched that level, used object detection, nothing. Searched the level below, nothing. Searched the *entire dungeon* above that point, nothing 14:48 i didn't actually know that it was possible 14:48 because the MMF had other items, the PYEC didn't show up in object detection 14:49 ow 14:49 i had to kill it to get it back 14:49 that was after i had given up 14:49 oh maybe it works for peaceful indeed 14:49 like with apport and all the stuff 14:50 i'd guess the mmf would actually _use_ the key then too 14:50 right, I'd think so. Would be funny if you heard it telling the MMF a rumor 14:50 and then the MMF just grunts solemnly 14:50 Apparently you can even dig down with a pickaxe while riding. 14:51 and yet you can't eat a damn corpse off the ground smh 14:51 mm 14:51 Oh god purple worm 14:52 [US] [D]: BEHiker91W (Mon-Hum-Mal-Law), 132042 points, 16586 turns, killed by a minotaur 14:52 hah yeah 14:53 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:53 -!- remirol has joined #tnnt 14:53 yikes team H 14:53 [Ac] BEHiker91W just earned 13 new achievements. 14:54 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 149 points, 715 turns, killed by a fox 14:57 [EU] [D]: Mandevil (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 738 points, 1365 turns, killed by a bat 14:59 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:64571 14:59 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:59 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 168 points, 597 turns, killed by a small mimic 15:01 o an orc (orc-captain called Akhahaiu) 15:02 Wasn't team H. It was team ^. 15:03 I was unprepared for a polytrap. 15:05 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of dexterity", on T:12310 15:06 :O sokoban death drop of a wand of wishing (0:1) for my nudist 15:06 or it might have been the final level's wand 15:06 which role/race/align? 15:07 rog-orc-cha 15:07 ooh interesting 15:07 daggerstorm in ya face 15:07 how do you get MR? 15:07 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed tinning kit", on T:12564 15:07 magicbane? 15:07 yup. :) 15:07 haven't wished yet, but that's going to be my first wish 15:08 then going to hope that ring of protection is edible 15:09 [AU] Andrio (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Dispater, on T:65694 15:09 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12741 15:12 You see here a statue of a hill orc named Baneoghaia of Akhahaiu. 15:13 Akhahaiu sounds like an orcish laugh. 15:13 [US] [D]: atorox (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 158 points, 526 turns, killed by a grid bug 15:18 if master lich is genocided, but arch-lich is not, what happens when a demilich quaffs not-cursed gain level? 15:19 it will die because the form it tries to be in doesn't exist 15:19 exxxxcellent 15:21 I was about to say "I'm on level 9 and haven't seen a single scroll of missing code" and there was one right there in the corridor. 15:21 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:43646 15:24 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "the blessed greased fixed +3 Magicbane", on T:43654 15:33 [US] [D]: truebiz (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 244 points, 826 turns, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse 15:36 -!- rebatela has joined #tnnt 15:43 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:15149 15:43 [EU] [D]: Mandevil (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1127 points, 2932 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 15:45 [US] [D]: quervo (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 145 points, 377 turns, killed by a gnome 15:46 i'm going to change my name to K2 - slayer of player priests 15:47 then I could change mine to Raisse Wizardbane 15:47 heh 15:52 [US] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:4171 15:54 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:5654 15:55 [US] [D]: Tmasher (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 9358 points, 7968 turns, killed by a water moccasin 15:56 [Ac] Tmasher just earned Distinction Without Difference. 16:02 [US] [D]: k2 (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 7235 points, 6706 turns, killed by a dwarf king (and 17 more) 16:03 [US] [D]: Noah (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 5577 points, 5378 turns, killed by a soldier ant, while unconscious from rotten food 16:03 [US] eitwinston (Arc Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:16612 16:04 [Ac] Noah just earned It Burnsss, Spam, Spam, Spam, Who Was That David Person Anyway?, and Looking Slick. 16:11 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:46374 16:13 [US] eitwinston (Arc Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:17051 16:19 stennowork: protection is steel :D :D 16:20 omnom 16:21 draw me as a blue U because i'm about to the cookie (ring) monster 16:21 :P 16:22 If I for some insane reason added the Cookie Monster to xnethack, he *would* be an aberration... 16:23 lol yay 16:23 <@Luxcalibur> xnethack the kitchen sink variant? 16:23 <@Luxcalibur> hm 16:23 <@Luxcalibur> can't imagine it 16:25 neither can I 16:25 snufflupagus would be a q 16:26 stomp 3d8 stomp 3d8 bite 4d12 trunk-strangle 16:27 but we already *have* the kitchen sink in vanilla! 16:28 Hold on 16:28 Nowhere is it specifed it's a *kitchen* sink, is it? 16:28 it is 16:29 because kitchen sink comes from slash'em 16:31 oh huh.... what other vanilla features are merged from slash'em? 16:31 only know about kitchen sink 16:32 nooodle: the entire spellcasting system 16:32 aka Wizard Patch 16:32 omggggg 16:33 maybe we will get lethe at some point :P 16:34 <@Luxcalibur> what were wizards like prior to wizard patch 16:34 oh lethe is actually a port of the vanilla patch 16:34 @Luxcalibur have you played 1.3d during junethack? 16:34 <@Luxcalibur> no 16:35 spellbook of genocide and the like 16:35 <@Luxcalibur> wtf lol 16:35 <@Luxcalibur> so they're like scrolls? 16:35 i... think they have a casting timeout? 16:35 not sure actually 16:35 i think they worked similar to wands? 16:35 somebody who actualyl played 1.3d please confirm/deny 16:35 <@Luxcalibur> wands of the brain 16:35 <@Luxcalibur> :0 16:37 <@Luxcalibur> sounds pretty good if there was no metal armor penalty 16:38 [US] [D]: Noah (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 180 points, 743 turns, killed by a gecko (and 1 more) 16:41 [EU] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:59829 16:41 [EU] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:59830 16:43 -!- oh6_ has joined #tnnt 16:43 -!- oh6 has quit [Disconnected by services] 16:43 -!- oh6_ is now known as oh6 16:45 [EU] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:59855 16:45 <@Tone> It's probably a kitchen sink since it has a dishwasher 16:45 <@Luxcalibur> do people consider that part of the sink? 16:46 <@Tone> No but the dishwasher is presumably washing dishes in the sink 16:47 It's clearly a dishwashing machine in the form of a succubus 16:47 pff, I've been all through the Dungeons of Doom and I have a BoH full of scrolls but NOW I find my first scroll of enchant armor. 16:48 <@Luxcalibur> maybe the dishwasher for NB characters in splice should be an actual dishwasher tool 😛 16:49 Amy might actually do that you know 16:52 [EU] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:59963 16:52 [EU] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:59965 17:02 [EU] [D]: gargor (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 1819 points, 2499 turns, killed by a soldier ant 17:03 [US] [D]: k2 (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 343 points, 1128 turns, killed by a giant bat (and 3 more) 17:05 -!- ThatJared has joined #tnnt 17:08 gah I can't find the third scroll of missing code 17:08 mike stephenson already has the other two so at least I can't misplace those 17:09 you know about how you can chat to one of the devteam members to find out what level it's on? 17:09 I know, only it wasn't on that level 17:10 :O what about in a closet with no door 17:10 so I thought it was just flavor text 17:10 no, it's real 17:10 I thought missing code scrolls didn't go there 17:10 Try magic mapping? 17:10 object detection surely 17:10 it's detect treasure I need, mapping doesn't show objects 17:11 [US] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 darts on an altar, on T:8778 17:11 raisse: Missing code scrolls can end up on any walkable space. 17:11 I know! 17:12 for some reason they seem to be more often in the corridor than not 17:12 so missing code scrolls can go into a closet with no door 17:12 [US] [D]: sal (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 62459 points, 22304 turns, killed by a troll 17:12 ah, right 17:12 Does that include vaults and whatnot? 17:12 yes 17:12 I'll have to go back to level 21 then 17:12 and map it 17:12 Not water, I think. 17:12 and get out my pickaxe 17:12 Well it would *really* suck if it was in water 17:12 water isn't walkable 17:13 can they be eaten by gelatinous cubes? 17:13 (not for me anyway, I'm wearing speed boots) 17:13 that would suck 17:13 going out for dinner, bbl 17:13 [Ac] sal just earned Pet Rescue. 17:14 [EU] [D]: gargor (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 2091 points, 1193 turns, killed by a jaguar 17:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:18 [EU] [D]: gargor (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 198 points, 751 turns, killed by a gnome lord 17:25 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) genocided master mind flayer, on T:48502 17:28 [US] [D]: jackofclubs (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 2358 points, 4971 turns, killed by a blast of frost 17:29 [Ac] jackofclubs just earned A Little Light Larceny. 17:29 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "vorpal blade", on T:48669 17:31 [US] IceBox (Rog Orc Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a Mordor orc corpse on an altar of Kos, on T:3127 17:34 [US] [D]: Tmasher (Cav-Dwa-Mal-Law), 2874 points, 3496 turns, killed by an orc shaman 17:36 [US] Noah (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3282 17:41 [US] k2 (Pri Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering a homunculus corpse on an altar of Huhetotl, on T:3062 17:42 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) genocided class c, on T:49967 17:43 [US] [D]: Noah (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2427 points, 3841 turns, killed by a Mordor orc 17:44 -!- ThatJared has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:44 [Ac] Noah just earned Chemistry 101. 17:48 !lastgame gargor 17:48 Hydro_: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/g/gargor/tnnt/dumplog/1542647682.tnnt.txt 17:50 -!- Tmasher has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:50 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:47755 17:51 -!- AlbertB has joined #tnnt 17:52 My pet dragon seems to be blind. What can I do? 17:53 Can I somehow apply a unicorn horn to him? 17:53 [US] [D]: Eleven (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 4975 points, 6741 turns, killed by a fire ant 17:53 no 17:53 i think you just have to wait? 17:53 is cure blindness spell directional? 17:53 maybe you can throw a potion of full healing at it? (not sure if that would anger the pet though..) 17:53 O.k. I'll wait. I can't spell healing. 17:54 My stethoscope tells me that the dragon is scared now. 17:55 waiting will work in any case 17:56 rather than throw, isn't it generally better to wield the potion and hit it? 17:56 -!- stennowork has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:00 Current Day as of 2018-11-19 18:00 UTC: Games: 118, Asc: 0, Scum: 12. 252582 turns, 437725 points. 2d 19:20 gametime. (33%Wiz), (63%Hum), (47%Neu), (56%Mal), 11d 05:59 remaining. 18:00 I tried it with a wielded potion of healing. But we just swaped places. 18:01 But now it seems as enough time has pased and it can see again. 18:03 use "F" + direction to force hitting the pet 18:03 also handy when fighting monsters in water if you don't want to fall in 18:03 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:47918 18:04 -!- AlbertB has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:05 [US] IceBox (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:8497 18:08 [US] sal (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3478 18:10 [US] Luxidream (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3983 18:13 [US] Karnac (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:1485 18:14 [US] [D]: Karnac (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 928 points, 1581 turns, killed by a watch captain (and 2 more) 18:16 [EU] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:60214 18:18 [US] [D]: Karnac (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 229 points, 551 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion (and 1 more) 18:20 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:48062 18:20 -!- stenno has joined #tnnt 18:21 [US] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:9714 18:23 [US] [D]: k2 (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 8115 points, 5598 turns, killed by a leocrotta (and 2 more) 18:23 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:7781 18:24 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7785 18:24 oh wow. first time i've gotten magicabane as a monk 18:24 magicbanes all around 18:25 silly god. i convert the altar and pray for water and he is 'displeased'. sacrifice a lichen and he gives me magicbane.. 18:25 [EU] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided class ;, on T:60355 18:26 so not _that_ displeased 18:26 -!- stenno is now known as stenno\ootc 18:26 right? I still need the water prayer, but I guess it can wait 18:28 i usually play weaponless, but nice having MR early without wishing. plus it unlocks dagger skill 18:29 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Death, on T:48117 18:31 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Arc-Hum-Fem-Law), 522 points, 824 turns, killed by a water moccasin 18:33 [EU] [D]: Mandevil (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 935 points, 1613 turns, killed by a giant bat 18:33 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:48159 18:33 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 18:34 -!- eraserhead has joined #tnnt 18:34 [EU] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:60432 18:36 yay! found the scroll in unexplored part of a level I passed but left by trapdoor 18:36 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:48220 18:36 yay hothraxxa! 18:36 * raisse watches hothraxxa 18:38 [US] Karnac (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:2565 18:39 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Arc-Hum-Fem-Law), 1405 points, 2477 turns, killed by a kitten 18:40 [US] [D]: IceBox (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 17677 points, 12038 turns, killed by a flesh golem 18:40 [EU] [A]: oh6 (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2751760 points, 60507 turns, ascended 18:40 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/tnnt/dumplog/1542387038.tnnt.txt 18:41 [Ac] oh6 just earned 7 new achievements. 18:41 [US] [D]: Noah (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 849 points, 2292 turns, killed by a rothe 18:42 [US] hothraxxa (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed historic fixed greased figurine of a woodchuck named carl, k2's buddy", on T:48262 18:42 [EU] [D]: swegen (Pri-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1068 points, 2915 turns, killed by a killer bee 18:44 -!- orz has left #tnnt 18:44 congrats oh6! and hothraxxa! 18:44 [US] [A]: hothraxxa (Hea-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2139997 points, 48272 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/tnnt/dumplog/1541803949.tnnt.txt 18:45 [Tr] hothraxxa now has Great Healer and Lesser Healer! 18:45 [Ac] hothraxxa just earned 33 new achievements. 18:46 yay great healer and lesser healer! 18:49 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Arc-Hum-Fem-Law), 506 points, 3503 turns, killed by Mr. Malasgirt; the shopkeeper 18:50 <@Tone> grats oh6 and hothraxxa 😄 18:50 tnx 18:50 thanks raisse, @tone! 18:51 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Arc-Hum-Fem-Law), 93 points, 307 turns, killed by a water moccasin 18:51 [EU] [D]: gargor (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 567 points, 1323 turns, killed by a hobgoblin 18:55 congrats hothraxxa 18:55 [US] [D]: IceBox (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 987 points, 1304 turns, killed by a gnome lord 18:55 and oh6! 18:55 [US] [D]: larry (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 502 points, 1925 turns, killed by a leocrotta 18:56 [US] Karnac (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an arch-lich, on T:3283 18:57 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Arc-Hum-Fem-Law), 457 points, 1529 turns, killed by a giant bat, while sleeping 18:58 [US] OtsMcGee (Tou Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a gnome corpse, on T:4795 19:00 Hourly Stats at 2018-11-19 19:00 UTC: Games: 21, Asc: 2, Scum: 3. 148659 turns, 4926609 points. (39%Arc), 11d 04:59 remaining. 19:00 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:54619 19:00 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:54622 19:02 [US] [D]: Graydot (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 6466 points, 5025 turns, killed by a poisonous corpse 19:02 damnit 19:02 ? 19:02 -!- Hydro_ is now known as Graydot- 19:02 oh you're Graydot- 19:02 thought I had enough hp :( 19:02 then I retract my ? 19:03 i really should use early /oPoly 19:03 on self or objects? 19:04 pets/spellbooks probably 19:04 as a wiz 19:05 ooh yes, spellbooks 19:05 I had plenty of wishes so I wished for identify but I could have polypiled 19:08 [US] [D]: Graydot (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 100 points, 465 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 19:08 oof 19:08 i think i had 10 gnome wiz die on my in a row now 19:08 so squishy 19:08 spellbooks are my least favourite polyfodder on account of fading 19:09 !lastgame Graydot 19:09 Graydot-: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Graydot/tnnt/dumplog/1542654246.tnnt.txt 19:09 <@Tone> Yeah spellbooks are annoying to poly now 19:09 yes, better for non-wiz, because that's still valuable for identifying spellbook so that you can then write it with a magic marker 19:09 at better than 33% chance 19:10 ^^ this. i always polypile spellbooks 19:10 usually wish for polymorpoh actually 19:10 pray on altar and poly the junk ones 19:11 and even plain spellbooks can poly back into non-plain ones 19:11 <@Tone> Do certain methods of blanking reset the read counter while others don't? 19:11 you're right though. even if the spellbook is too faded to read, you can write it now because it's identified 19:12 correct, the goal is just to get certain books identified that you can then write 19:12 and you do this while polypiling other stuff that's the main target -- the books are just incidental 19:14 two altars on dlvl1, one aligned, how nice 19:14 both aligned, one coaligned :-p 19:14 [US] Delraven (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:27298 19:15 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:11818 19:17 of course im running out of food on dlvl 1 because I cannot find the exit :( 19:18 https://imgur.com/a/Bnn41oC pretty sure it has to be to the right of me but searching returned nothing 19:18 [US] [D]: iyarkonan (Arc-Hum-Fem-Law), 3306 points, 3564 turns, killed by a soldier ant 19:18 i guess it could be top right as well 19:18 are silver arrows more likely to polymorph into silver daggers than other weapons? 19:19 than other weapons are* to polymorph into silver daggers 19:19 nooodle: no 19:20 Graydot-: can you use #terrain to see if the downstairs is hidden somewhere? 19:20 :'( 19:21 I usually do the travel to > to find it, no luck here 19:21 ah fair, that would work too 19:21 oh i see it? 19:21 right in the middle there is a way 19:22 :/ 19:23 I think I searched every tile 19:23 there are two ways right 19:23 in the middle 19:24 on comes from the lower left room 19:24 er lower right room 19:24 -!- Tmasher has joined #tnnt 19:24 so when you come from the lower right room, take the upper door, go left and up, and search there? 19:25 man it's hard to give directions lol 19:25 try "north/east/south/west" instead of up and down 19:25 choose the most south-eastern room and then go north-westish 19:28 stenno\ootc, I think I searched the spot you are describing 19:28 I think im fucked 19:30 [US] [D]: Karnac (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 32223 points, 5774 turns, petrified by Medusa 19:31 ah damn it was bottom right door to top right 19:31 only 2.5k turns on dlvl1, nothing to see here 19:32 !lastgame 19:32 nooodle: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/g/gargor/tnnt/dumplog/1542653036.tnnt.txt | [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/K/Karnac/tnnt/dumplog/1542651511.tnnt.txt | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Andrio/tnnt/dumplog/1542604351.tnnt.txt 19:33 thats an early medusa 19:33 they were telepathic... 19:33 You were in female arch-lich form. 19:34 <@Tone> YANI: unchanging prevents you from turning to stone 19:35 apparently petrification resistance is super OP 19:38 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) genocided mind flayer, on T:55725 19:40 [US] [D]: eerr (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 461 points, 1312 turns, killed by an iguana, while fainted from lack of food 19:42 <@Tone> Arch-lich poly form has some nice benefits but it slow 19:43 <@Tone> I like it because it can cast and has a large hp pool 19:43 would be nice if you could #monster for controlled tele 19:43 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:27852 19:43 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27853 19:44 <@Tone> If I were a valk going with the unchanging route, I probably would have gone with jabberwock 19:45 not mmf? 19:45 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:18114 19:45 <@Tone> You really need a ring of regen or a healing spell if you are going to use unchanging 19:46 <@Tone> stenno: mmf is probably the best overall poly form now that most of them can't cast 19:47 <@Tone> Jabberwock is just fun with unchanging I guess, and as a valk you probably won't be casting anyways 19:47 what do you mean with 'now they can't cast' 19:47 <@Tone> I think it was a 361 change 19:47 <@Tone> Monsters that can't "talk" can't cast 19:48 <@Tone> It seems inconsistent because I though jabberwocks could #chat 19:48 <@Tone> But jabberwocks, minotaurs, air elementals all can't cast spells now 19:48 [US] [D]: Menche (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 918 points, 2660 turns, killed by a hill orc 19:49 A lot of monsters that you can #chat with can't talk 19:49 You can chat with a dog but the dog doesn't talk 19:50 <@Tone> I mean that I think they can chat with priests and whatnot 19:50 <@Tone> but I could be wrong there 19:50 [US] SkippitoFriskito (Bar Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6132 19:50 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:28336 19:50 <@Tone> If you try to #chat as a minotaur it will tell you that you can't talk 19:51 Ah, I misunderstood you 19:51 I thought you were talking about #chatting with the monster while you weren't polymorphed 19:51 [US] [D]: larry (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 298 points, 2589 turns, killed by a boulder 19:53 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:26237 19:55 mmf can talk, right? 19:55 i think he mumbles something 19:56 [EU] spontiff (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 helm of opposite alignment", on T:56168 19:56 <@Tone> They can cast spells and I think #chat 19:56 gotcha 19:57 -!- spontiff has joined #tnnt 19:57 <@Tone> Titans are another good spellcasting form but they have low damage comparatively 19:57 titans can use weapons i thought 19:57 [EU] spontiff (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:56171 19:57 ^ 19:57 <@Tone> They can 19:58 [EU] spontiff (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "holy dilithium crystals", on T:56174 19:59 -!- funcrunch has joined #tnnt 20:01 lol, infestation of peaceful gremlins at the castle 20:01 * raisse puts on a ring of conflict 20:01 let them solve the problem by themselves! 20:02 [EU] spontiff (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed drum of earthquake", on T:56184 20:02 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:20562 20:04 [EU] [D]: spontiff (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1167931 points, 56187 turns, escaped (in celestial disgrace) 20:04 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:26637 20:05 [Ac] spontiff just earned 16 new achievements. 20:06 yay spontiff 20:06 thanks raisse :) 20:06 gj spontiff 20:06 paci? 20:06 nah 20:06 kk 20:07 just getting out with as many achievements as I could 20:07 ah, that didn't count as nazgul 20:07 I probably would've had to kill them as well as revgeno them 20:08 yes, I think you have to kill all of them for the achievement 20:08 also, learning the #turn spell doesn't count, you have to be a priest or something 20:08 like the erinyes (easy for me, they all turned up in the valley) 20:08 priest or monk afaik 20:08 yes, I believe I have the erinyes one 20:08 Raise: Priest or knight 20:09 ah right 20:09 * raisse is now watching the castle crowd fight each other to the death 20:09 hrmm double bones minetown 20:10 You read: "larry, killed by a leocrotta". 20:10 ahh yes i see why 20:10 Aww, I thought I'd managed luck -13 too, by breaking a bucketload of mirrors before saccing back to clover 20:10 no, you can only do that with a cursed luckstone 20:10 you need the extra -2 20:11 -3, in fact 20:11 [US] [D]: Athor (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 137 points, 728 turns, killed by a water moccasin 20:15 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:29116 20:15 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:29119 20:16 The sergeant drinks a potion of gain level! The sergeant seems more experienced. The sergeant becomes a lieutenant. 20:17 oh ok, thanks raisse, I never thought of that! 20:18 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:58161 20:23 [EU] [D]: spontiff (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 65 points, 479 turns, killed by a jackal 20:23 [US] Entitas (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:18194 20:23 [US] Entitas (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:18195 20:24 [US] Entitas (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:18195 20:26 [US] [D]: Athor (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1574 points, 2113 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 20:28 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #tnnt 20:28 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) genocided disenchanter, on T:59074 20:34 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:59473 20:35 [US] [D]: truebiz (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 361 points, 1144 turns, killed by a giant bat 20:36 [US] [D]: Graydot (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 7711 points, 7365 turns, killed by a panther 20:36 [US] larry (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3503 20:39 [US] larry (Hea Gno Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a rock mole corpse, on T:3786 20:40 are fumble boots 'magic' ? like for poly purposes ? 20:41 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:62332 20:41 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) genocided gelatinous cube, on T:59863 20:41 rebatela: yes 20:41 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) genocided green slime, on T:59865 20:42 [US] [D]: Athor (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1440 points, 2182 turns, killed by a white unicorn 20:42 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #tnnt 20:42 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 35182 points, 10125 turns, killed by a rock troll 20:43 [US] funcrunch (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (10 times), on T:77026 20:43 [Ac] SkippitoFriskito just earned 16 new achievements. 20:45 [US] Luxidream (Arc Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:6725 20:45 [EU] [D]: spontiff (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 387 points, 1812 turns, killed by a werejackal 20:46 [US] funcrunch (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:77059 20:47 [US] [D]: Tmasher (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 937 points, 1904 turns, killed by a rabid rat 20:49 [US] eitwinston (Arc Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:17758 20:49 [US] IceBox (Rog Orc Mal Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon him by Kos, on T:8535 20:50 [EU] [D]: spontiff (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 50 points, 154 turns, killed by a wand 20:50 [US] [D]: Graydot (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 264 points, 514 turns, killed by a small mimic 20:52 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Yeenoghu, on T:61110 20:53 [US] [D]: truebiz (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 292 points, 1274 turns, killed by a guard 20:53 [US] Luxidream (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:12203 20:54 [Ac] truebiz just earned Breaking and Entering and Gullible. 20:55 [US] hypnotist (Rog Orc Fem Cha) genocided umber hulk, on T:61313 20:56 [US] funcrunch (Pri Hum Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:77218 21:00 Hourly Stats at 2018-11-19 21:00 UTC: Games: 13, Asc: 0, Scum: 0. 85981 turns, 1216331 points. (31%Wiz), 11d 02:59 remaining. 21:02 [US] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:51164 21:02 [US] Luxidream (Arc Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (disenchanter), on T:14066 21:04 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:29162 21:04 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:28299 21:05 [US] funcrunch (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:77403 21:05 [US] dingotron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:30319 21:05 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29262 21:06 [US] [D]: Graydot (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 1514 points, 1519 turns, killed by an invisible Elvenking 21:07 [Ac] Graydot just earned Spam, Spam, Spam. 21:08 [US] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:51327 21:10 [EU] [D]: spontiff (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 197 points, 1979 turns, killed by a kitten 21:11 [US] funcrunch (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Death, on T:77435 21:13 [EU] Raisse (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:29518 21:15 -!- AlbertB has joined #tnnt 21:17 [US] Luxidream (Arc Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur, on T:17719 21:18 [US] [A]: funcrunch (Pri-Hum-Mal-Law), 3549202 points, 77481 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/f/funcrunch/tnnt/dumplog/1542233075.tnnt.txt 21:18 yay 21:18 gj 21:18 congrats funcrunch! 21:18 3 down, 1 to go to get my Great Priest/ess goal 21:19 @Tone following up on that YANI: unchanging should also prevent turning to slime, if it doesn't already. 21:19 [US] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:52522 21:19 [Ac] funcrunch just earned 17 new achievements. 21:22 <@Tone> aosdict: Agreed, I couldn't remember how that was handled currently 21:22 ooh, and erinys 21:22 an* 21:23 only 1 in the valley this time, but I got all three in the game that ended with yeenoghu 21:23 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:29256 21:24 -!- telegarn has joined #tnnt 21:24 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:32120 21:25 grats funcrunch 21:25 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:41719 21:27 [US] sal (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:10437 21:28 [US] eitwinston (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:20782 21:29 [US] Graydot (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:2893 21:33 [US] Luxidream (Arc Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:20605 21:34 [US] telegarn (Val Dwa Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:41829 21:36 -!- funcrunch has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:39 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:29889 21:39 [US] eraserhead97 (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:29890 21:40 [US] Luxidream (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:22081 21:41 [US] IceBox (Rog Orc Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:15942 21:42 [US] [D]: Graydot (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 3145 points, 3980 turns, killed by a forest centaur 21:44 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:45 hm... Dlvl:38 seems early for looking for VS 21:45 [EU] [D]: spontiff (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3723 points, 2902 turns, killed by a system shock 21:46 yeah - should be 44-52, but I can't dig down... 21:46 [US] IceBox (Rog Orc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:16053 21:46 -!- spontiff has quit [] 21:51 [US] sal (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Anhur, on T:11439 21:51 eraserhead: it's probably the wizard's tower? 21:51 <@Tone> eraserhead You are on a wizard tower level 21:53 aosdict: rld: ah - thx for tip - didn't know that! 21:55 [US] [A]: telegarn (Val-Dwa-Mal-Law), 2111766 points, 41998 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/telegarn/tnnt/dumplog/1541262985.tnnt.txt 21:55 omg - >FINALLY< got fire-resistance of a red D on Dlvl:39, T:30826 - what a PITA! 21:56 [Ac] telegarn just earned 70 new achievements. 21:56 was taking up a ring-slot 8^P 21:59 ic - so all 3 WT levels are undiggable - I was just getting into how digging made life so much easier in Gehennom 21:59 [EU] [D]: Schnibble (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 22348 points, 11335 turns, killed by a housecat 22:00 [Ac] Schnibble just earned 14 new achievements. 22:01 [US] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:15247 22:02 <@Tone> The maze walls are diggable 22:02 <@Tone> You can't dig through the floors though and you can't teleport 22:04 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:31589 22:04 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:31591 22:05 so it seems once I get past the towers, I can just keep digging, look for VS, and then come back up... 22:08 on Dlvl:46 is undiggable - looking for VS 22:08 [EU] [D]: Schnibble (Hea-Hum-Fem-Neu), 2 points, 184 turns, killed by a fox 22:12 [EU] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master mind flayer), on T:29521 22:14 there it is... ...btw, if I use confused gold detection, will it find the VS for me? 22:14 yes 22:15 it renders as ~ but it's internally a trap 22:15 [US] [D]: Graydot (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 2522 points, 3086 turns, killed by a gnome lord 22:15 danke ^^ - that'll save some time next time I come down - thx 22:15 [US] sal (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:12598 22:15 [US] sal (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) genocided class h, on T:12599 22:16 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:33264 22:17 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:33360 22:17 !rc Tangles 22:19 [US] Luxidream (Arc Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Quetzalcoatl, on T:23745 22:19 !help 22:19 Graydot-: https://www.hardfought.org/nethack 22:21 I found an egg and put it into my bag of holding. some time later a cockatrice falls out of my bag. Apparently not tame. I killed it right away. Would it have been possible to tame it without a scroll of taming? 22:22 I don't think so, but... that shouldn't happen if it's bagged 22:22 did you have another egg in open inventory? 22:23 (or did they change it so bagged eggs can hatch in 3.6.*) 22:24 Maybe I didn't bag it. If I ate the egg would it have stoned me? 22:24 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34186 22:24 yes, but it would have been a delayed death so you could have prayed or ate a lizard 22:24 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:34189 22:24 "This egg is delicious! You are slowing down." 22:25 and I don't think you can tame anything other than a d, f, or u using food 22:26 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Pet#New_pets 22:27 1. and 2. are really the only reliable ways to tame things, the others are all weird esoteric ways to create pets 22:28 Well, I polymorphed my cat into a baby dragon that seems to do better than the cat now. Although it moves a bit slow. 22:29 actually, it doesn't mention the taming effect of "You feel charismatic!" from a magic trap. That works too (though it's hardly reliable) 22:29 yeah speed is pretty valuable in pets 22:29 -!- scorchgeek has joined #tnnt 22:32 With a magic whistle it's o.k. because the pets come to you instantly. But I haven't got a magic whistle yet. Nor do I have a leach. Therefore it's a bit tedious to get the dragon to the stairs. 22:33 there's usually magic whistles in the swap chest (at least there are a bunch on the US server) 22:34 -!- Hydro_ has joined #tnnt 22:35 -!- stenno\o1tc has joined #tnnt 22:35 You are right. But I was to greedy. Just got one item out of the chest. Althoug I have put three magic items in. 22:35 Graydot-: that help is too generic and probably not very helpful (also it's Beholder's help). My rc is https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/tnnt/Tangles.tnntrc 22:37 -!- scorchgeek_ has joined #tnnt 22:37 -!- j_ has joined #tnnt 22:37 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:35725 22:37 I think you can only get one item from the swap chest, no matter how many items you put in 22:38 yeah, it stops responding once you take an item out 22:38 although... spoilers... but there is a second swap chest somewhere (that accesses the same shared inventory). ;) 22:38 Not saying where ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) 22:38 and if there's more I haven't found them 22:39 -!- stenno\ootc has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:39 -!- Graydot- has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:39 -!- scorchgeek has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:39 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:40 actually I should check Moloch's Sanctum, I wouldn't put it past K2 to put a third one there 22:41 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 664 points, 1885 turns, killed by a little dog 22:42 [US] [D]: Tmasher (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1244 points, 2619 turns, killed by a hill orc 22:42 should i spoiler how many swap chests there are, ShivanHunter ? 22:42 noooooooo 22:42 ok :P 22:42 well i can tell you that it's a fixed number 22:43 are there any tricks to finding < in Gehennom? it's kindof a drag... 22:43 magic mapping 22:43 covetous monsters, scroll or spell of magic mapping 22:43 you mean the upstairs to Vlad's, or any arbitrary staircase? 22:43 ah - ty - I mean arbitrary < back up 22:44 crystal balls can help too I think, but idk if they can look for stairs 22:44 ic - maybe orb of weight can do it, too... 22:45 should be possible as it's a dungeon feature 22:45 (i think? D:) 22:45 anyway bedtime, good luck 22:45 nope didn't work - tried with < and got "You peer into the Orb of Fate... You see a castl, far away." 22:46 ty 22:47 if magic mapping is limited and you're going down, you can map every other level (map, descend so you see the upstair, dig down, map, ascend so you see the downstair) 22:47 but that doesn't work going up unless you have lots of cursed gain level or controlled levelport 22:48 actually orb of weight can do levelport IIRC, so you'd just need teleport control 22:48 nice trick - I'm going back to camp to grab some cursed gain level + MM 22:48 cursed gain level is better used on the ascension run to avoid mysterious force imo 22:49 it works while you have the amulet? I didn't know that! 22:49 that gets annoying fast otherwise 22:49 -!- greqrg has joined #tnnt 22:49 [US] [D]: benthor (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 737 points, 2306 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 22:49 cursed gain level does since it's only one level 22:49 ic 22:49 [US] [D]: truebiz (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 708 points, 2424 turns, killed by a giant ant 22:50 [Ac] truebiz just earned A Little Light Larceny and It's The Pits. 22:52 A lichen just dropped Grimtooth on dlvl 2 22:52 Shame I can't use it because I'm an Arc 22:53 Tmasher, you can reach basic 22:53 it will sometimes blast you for 4d4 22:55 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1006 points, 1506 turns, killed by a water moccasin 22:55 -!- LarienTelrunya has quit [Quit: sweetheart bundle :)] 22:56 [US] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:54114 22:56 [US] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:54117 22:56 ... with a shuriken! 22:57 [US] [D]: Tmasher (Arc-Dwa-Mal-Law), 430 points, 1183 turns, killed by a giant bat, while sleeping 22:57 are /oCancellation ever useful during ascension? if not, I'm leaving them in the chest - too risky having them on me 22:57 I've only found use for cancellation disenchanters 22:59 keep them in a separate sack, but almost put it into a BoH during fast rearrangement of loot - just too risky 8^P 23:01 they're also useful for uncursing very heavy cursed bags of holding 23:01 responding to above, cursed gain level doesn't avoid the mysterious force. 23:01 unless that changed in 3.6.* 23:01 -!- AlbertB has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:04 -!- tolkien.freenode.net changed the topic on #tnnt to: Discussion of TNNT: The November Nethack Tournament :: The Tournament has started!! Good luck and have fun everyone!! 23:04 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v Croesus] by ChanServ 23:04 !help 23:04 Tangles_: https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnntbot/blob/master/botuse.txt 23:04 <@Tone> It hasn't changed nooodle 23:04 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:38490 23:04 <@Tone> It does make it so you don't have to go to the stairs, at least 23:05 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:38533 23:06 * Tangles_ quaffed 5 cursed potions of gain level recently, and ended up one level below where I started. 23:06 [US] hothraxxa (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6420 23:07 lol yes 23:07 i know i'm going to have to cross the juiblex level 7 times no matter what 23:07 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:38768 23:12 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:39010 23:12 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:39013 23:13 worst level to repeat IMO is asmodeus because you have to go right then left across almost the whole level. 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Good luck and have fun everyone!! 23:14 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v Croesus] by ChanServ 23:14 -!- lorimer has joined #tnnt 23:14 [US] [D]: Graydot (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 3598 points, 4972 turns, killed by a fire ant 23:15 bouqet: yeah I love having cursed gain level for those lair levels on the way up 23:15 [US] [D]: benthor (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 612 points, 1461 turns, killed by an invisible pony 23:21 [US] eitwinston (Arc Dwa Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:24533 23:21 [US] eitwinston (Arc Dwa Mal Law) genocided class L, on T:24534 23:22 bloody Asmo's lair where you have to spiral around the level 3 times... 23:22 [EU] [D]: lst (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 978 points, 1985 turns, killed by a dog 23:23 [Ac] lst just earned Dungeon Economics. 23:23 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:41040 23:23 Mysterious force seems to love Juiblex's level for me too, for some reason 23:24 it's gotten to the point where I just never take off my ring ov levitation on the ascension run unless I have some last-minute stash work to do :P 23:24 ^^^ trudat 23:26 [US] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:55523 23:27 [US] bouquet (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:55561 23:28 what's the trick to getting these demon lords to port in Demogorgon? Do I just need to whack them with a tin opener until they finally do it? 23:29 just let them hit you until one of their attacks gates him in, I think 23:29 yeenoghu is safer than orcus since he can't summon nasties, and you'll be waiting for a while 23:30 -!- j_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:31 and don't try to wish for a statue of him like I did :P 23:31 [EU] voffer (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:41349 23:31 <@Tone> Have a scroll of scare monster ready if you use yeeno 23:31 Meanwhile, has anyone been inadvertently killed by Demogorgon yet? 23:32 <@Tone> You'll be constantly stunned and confused between yeen and demo 23:32 Like, not trying to get him to kill him. 23:32 <@Tone> I saw two demogorgon deaths early in the tourney 23:32 <@Tone> I think at least one wasn't planned 23:33 rip 23:33 [EU] [A]: voffer (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2543732 points, 41375 turns, ascended 23:33 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/v/voffer/tnnt/dumplog/1542319531.tnnt.txt 23:34 !gt @ 23:34 [Tr] voffer now has Great Valkyrie and Lesser Valkyrie! 23:34 [Ac] voffer just earned 10 new achievements. 23:34 [R] Clan Kitten lovers MEOW moves to ranking position 5! 23:34 I got fed up with orcus and just wanted his wand so I cut his face 23:35 is there any way to summon Demogorgon without involving another demon prince? Can regular demons do it? 23:35 defacing the dungeon: 100zm ticket 23:35 I think summon nasties can VERY rarely create him 23:36 He's an impressive dude. Deserves his own branch. 23:36 but waiting on demon gating is far safer 23:36 nasties can't. he has to be gated in by a lesser demon 23:36 Huh. I read that somewhere, maybe wiki needs fixing 23:37 but not necessarily a prince. some of the midrank chumps can get him, just at really really low odds. 23:37 <@Luxcalibur> summon nasties can definitely create him 23:37 <@Luxcalibur> I've had this happen to me several times 23:38 o.O this would be new to me, but perhaps i missed a change going in somewhere 23:38 YANI: Demogorgon level - trees, a fort in the woods, some tunnels. An homage to Stranger Things? 23:38 boss level is a building with a portal to his lair. 23:38 lorimer: I think it's been like that since before 3.4.3 23:39 [US] [D]: Tmasher (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 795 points, 1811 turns, killed by a gnome lord 23:39 is he explicitly listed, or is he something that can pop up if you've genocided/offed all the other options? 23:39 s/all/one category of/ 23:39 <@Tone> Summon nasties has a chance of gating demons in gehennom 23:40 [US] [D]: hothraxxa (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 7333 points, 7891 turns, killed by a soldier ant 23:40 Hm. I thought I had traced all the paths to get him at one point. Must have missed that one 23:41 lorimer: see wizard.c line 551 23:41 [US] [D]: benthor (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 559 points, 1466 turns, caught himself in his own magical blast 23:45 [US] Luxidream (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:30087 23:45 [US] Luxidream (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30091 23:45 <@Luxcalibur> !who 23:45 @Luxcalibur: [EU] lst | [US] Luxidream hypnotist telegarn bebing Graydot bouquet Eleven eraserhead97 Tmasher | [AU] No current players 23:48 -!- Glord has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:53 -!- j_ has joined #tnnt 23:55 [US] Luxidream (Arc Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:31305 23:59 -!- j_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]