00:00 <Croesus> DAILY STATS AT 2018-10-27 00:00 UTC: Games: 282, Asc: 2, Scum: 238. 209435 turns, 3754189 points. 2d 00:15 gametime. (61%Wiz), (36%Elf), (45%Cha), (57%Fem), 4d 23:59 to go!
00:03 <Croesus> [EU] Hill (Pri Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:9208
00:30 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed tooled horn named elenmirie", on T:64192
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00:36 <Croesus> [US] ToneHack (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:1989
01:17 <Croesus> [US] ToneHack (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:2167
01:45 <Croesus> [US] ToneHack (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:2294
01:54 <Croesus> [US] ToneHack (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:2319
01:55 <Croesus> [US] ToneHack (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:2322
02:06 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:777804897
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02:12 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:777805406
02:13 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:777805413
02:14 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:777805587
02:17 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:777805989
02:17 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:777805991
02:22 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:777806301
02:35 <Croesus> [US] ToneHack (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:2424
02:36 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:777806993
02:36 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:777806995
02:37 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:777807134
02:46 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:777807388
02:49 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:777807519
02:49 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:777807523
02:56 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:777808396
03:01 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed marker", on T:777808810
03:02 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:777809061
03:03 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed marker", on T:777809162
03:06 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:777809246
03:06 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:777809247
03:09 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:777809350
03:09 <Croesus> [US] ToneHack (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:2637
03:10 <Croesus> [US] ToneHack (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:2639
03:13 <Croesus> [US] [D]: ToneHack (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 79169 points, 2700 turns, poisoned by a vampire bat
03:13 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:777809488
03:13 <Croesus> [Ac] ToneHack just earned 26 new achievements.
03:13 <rld> <@Tone> Deadly fucking poison
03:14 <aosdict> D:
03:15 <Croesus> [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:777809516
03:15 <rld> <@Tone> That was in Vlad's tower
03:15 <aosdict> How did you not have poison res - oh right, speedrun.
03:15 <rld> <@Tone> just had to wake up Rodney and do the invocation
03:15 <Croesus> [US] [A]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3305296 points, 777809523 turns, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/ShivanHunter/tnnt/dumplog/1540394355.tnnt.txt
03:15 <rld> <@boo-tf> ToneHack (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 79169 points, 2700 turns, poisoned by a vampire bat RIP
03:15 <Croesus> [Ac] ShivanHunter just earned Spam, Spam, Spam and Horatius at the Bridge.
03:36 <rld> <@spookidream> so the most ascensions trophy should go to the clan with the most ascensions, right?
03:36 <rld> <@spookidream> why doesn't it say that teamsplat has most ascensions on the clan scoreboard?
03:37 <Croesus> [US] [D]: Karnac (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1884 points, 2705 turns, killed by an ape
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04:19 <Croesus> [US] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (cockatrice), on T:11
04:21 <Croesus> [US] [D]: Karnac (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 24 points, 143 turns, killed by a jackal
04:34 <Croesus> [US] [D]: IceBox (Bar-Orc-Fem-Cha), 3 points, 189 turns, killed by a water moccasin
04:38 <Croesus> [US] [D]: Karnac (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 816 points, 610 turns, killed by a hobbit
05:04 <Mandevil> @rld I'll check that.
05:07 <Croesus> [EU] oh6 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:61683
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05:07 <Croesus> [EU] oh6 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:61683
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05:19 <rld> <@boo-tf> mandevil: that was spookidream, rld is the bot that connects with discord 😃
05:20 <Croesus> [EU] oh6 (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Famine, on T:61935
05:24 <Croesus> [EU] [A]: oh6 (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3103766 points, 61960 turns, ascended
05:24 <Croesus> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/tnnt/dumplog/1540416975.tnnt.txt
05:25 <Croesus> [Ac] oh6 just earned 6 new achievements.
05:28 <Mandevil> @spookidream It works differently than you think.
05:28 <rld> <@FrightBox> grats oh6!
05:28 <Mandevil> @spookidream Clan gets most ascensions when one of its members gets the trophy.
05:28 <Croesus> [US] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:2025
05:29 <rld> <@Tone> Mandevil:  How is the longest ascension streak trophy tracked if a player has games across different servers?
05:29 <Mandevil> @Tone Yes.
05:29 <rld> <@Tone> I was told you would know the answer to this  😄
05:30 <Mandevil> @Tone Streaks don't care about servers.
05:31 <oh6> thanks @frightbox
05:31 <rld> <@Tone> Mandevil:  So does it check the end result of games or is it also tracking if a game started during a streak was finished?
05:32 <rld> <@Tone> I'm just curious because I want to do some risky conducts and achievements at some point but if I have an active streak I should plan accordingly
05:33 <Mandevil> Tone This is the only rule: "Every game in a streak must be the first game you start after winning the previous game in the streak."
05:33 <Mandevil> Aosdict resists my suggestions to put it on the Rules page.
05:35 <rld> <@Tone> So if you ascend game A, then start game B, then start game C before ascending game B -- does game C ever get tracked for the streak, regardless of its outcome?
05:35 <Mandevil> The game C can be part of different, concurrent streak.
05:35 <rld> <@Tone> Interesting, thank you!
05:36 <Mandevil> @Tone If you ever played in DCSS Tournament, this is the rule they use.
05:36 <rld> <@Tone> I have not, unfortunately
05:36 <rld> <@Tone> That rule works well though
05:37 <Mandevil> It's also simple to implement and frankly, more logical.
05:38 <rld> <@Tone> Yes, it makes a lot of sense.
05:39 <rld> <@FoxHound> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhDPPenQot8
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05:51 <Croesus> [US] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) genocided class ;, on T:23550
05:56 <Croesus> [US] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:23610
06:00 <Croesus> Current Day as of 2018-10-27 06:00 UTC: Games: 17, Asc: 2, Scum: 10. 777877857 turns, 6490958 points. 2d 08:27 gametime. (71%Wiz), (71%Elf), (86%Cha), (86%Mal), 4d 17:59 to go!
06:02 <Croesus> [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2724 points, 5053 turns, killed by a manes, while frozen by a monster's gaze
06:03 <Croesus> [Tr] jonathanhanes now has Never Scum a Game!
06:03 <Croesus> [Ac] jonathanhanes just earned 6 new achievements.
06:06 <oh6> whoop, minetown bones
06:07 <oh6> unless a random engraving of Elbereth just happened to be on the upstair
06:42 <Croesus> [US] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:25267
07:26 <Croesus> [US] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:26534
07:27 <Croesus> [US] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "+2 blessed fixed speed boots", on T:26535
07:28 <Croesus> [US] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "+2 blessed greased fixed gray dragon scale mail", on T:26538
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08:15 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 6042 points, 11781 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf, while sleeping
08:16 <Croesus> [Ac] elenmirie just earned It Burnsss.
08:50 <Croesus> [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1392
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09:18 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: Ashpool (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 505 points, 1445 turns, killed by a small mimic
09:18 <Croesus> [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:3480
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09:26 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 918 points, 5105 turns, killed by a rothe, while fainted from lack of food
09:29 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 69 points, 502 turns, killed by a fox
09:42 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 266 points, 1081 turns, killed by an iguana
10:10 <Croesus> [EU] Hill (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13993
10:11 <Croesus> [EU] Ashpool (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4254
10:45 <Croesus> [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:24156
10:46 <Croesus> [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24219
10:49 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: khamul (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 236 points, 481 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion
11:06 <Croesus> [EU] Ashpool (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) averted death, on T:8498
11:12 <aosdict> Mandevil: It *is* on the rules page. Don't you just think the text is confusing?
11:13 <Croesus> [EU] Hill (Pri Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:17099
11:15 <Mandevil> aosdict: It is, but the wording is different and IMO much less clear.
11:15 <aosdict> Have K2 change it then, I'm not in love with the text as-is
11:16 <Mandevil> Heh, neither I am.
11:16 <Mandevil> I think it needs more clarity overall.
11:18 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: Ashpool (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 22431 points, 9597 turns, killed by a spotted jelly
11:19 <Croesus> [Ac] Ashpool just earned 13 new achievements.
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12:00 <Croesus> Current Day as of 2018-10-27 12:00 UTC: Games: 25, Asc: 2, Scum: 10. 777912902 turns, 6524149 points. 2d 17:47 gametime. (47%Wiz), (40%Gno), (53%Neu), (53%Mal), 4d 11:59 to go!
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12:06 <Croesus> [EU] HalNovek (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:86418
12:08 <Croesus> [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first item, on T:26465
12:11 <Croesus> [US] [D]: bebing (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 324 points, 1427 turns, killed by a manes, while frozen by a monster's gaze
12:11 <Croesus> [Tr] bebing now has Never Scum a Game!
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12:24 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:64459
12:24 <Croesus> [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:9313
12:25 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:64472
12:26 <Croesus> [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:28234
12:27 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:64481
12:29 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 14947 points, 9456 turns, killed by a leocrotta
12:32 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 ring of protection named guardian of the fudd", on T:64487
12:44 <rld> <@spookidream> Mandevil: if that's the way it works, then OOTC should have most ascensions under its list of trophies, right?
12:47 <Mandevil> Sure.
12:47 <Mandevil> Yes, looks like a problem ther.
12:47 <rld> <@spookidream> yeah, right now it is not showing up
12:48 <Mandevil> I'll check that when I get back home.
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12:49 <Croesus> [EU] HalNovek (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) genocided cockatrice, on T:87649
12:52 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:64778
12:52 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:64781
12:52 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: Ashpool (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2287 points, 5031 turns, killed by a blue jelly
12:53 <Croesus> [Ac] Ashpool just earned Diamond in the Rough, Never Saw It Coming, and Looking Slick.
12:56 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 216 points, 961 turns, killed by a coyote
13:01 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 54 points, 1383 turns, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food
13:02 <Croesus> [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:31194
13:06 <Croesus> [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:31398
13:11 <Croesus> [US] [D]: Luxidream (Pri-Hum-Fem-Cha), 1402 points, 2859 turns, killed by a gnome, while sleeping
13:11 <Croesus> [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:31539
13:11 <Croesus> [EU] Hill (Pri Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:23053
13:25 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65752
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13:42 <rld> <@PsyMar> @spookidream @introSPOOKtive I would like an invite to order of the cockatrice
13:43 <rld> <@spookidream> I'm on it
13:44 <rld> <@PsyMar> argh, I don't remember my hardfought password
13:45 <rld> <@spookidream> lmk if you need me to invite another account
13:45 <rld> <@spookidream> but I invited you
13:45 <rld> <@PsyMar> thanks
13:49 <Croesus> [EU] HalNovek (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) killed Orcus, on T:89068
13:51 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:19540
13:52 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) received Excalibur, on T:19760
13:53 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:20048
14:09 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:22647
14:17 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24430
14:20 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:25475
14:23 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: khamul (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 1292 points, 2175 turns, killed by a bolt of fire
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14:28 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:28471
14:28 <Croesus> [EU] Hill (Pri Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", on T:23537
14:33 <ais523> K2/Tangles: suggestion: on the Trophies page, for trophies of the "most X" form (unique deaths, score, etc.), list the number achieved in addition to the player and clan who has the most
14:34 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:28712
14:36 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Anu, on T:28968
14:42 <ais523> K2/Tangles: further suggestion: actually list what the achievements are; people new to tournaments may not have the list memorised
14:46 <Croesus> [EU] Hill (Pri Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:24334
14:52 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:31621
14:53 <rld> <@spookidream> K2: still waiting for the croesus kill message
14:57 <Mandevil> @spookidream I fixed the Most Ascensions not showing -- it was a trivial typo.
14:57 <Croesus> [US] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:26788
14:59 <Mandevil> @spookidream BTW, it was just cosmetics, you were getting the points, it just wasn't showing in that box on both clan and player page.
15:00 <rld> <@spookidream> ah, gotcha
15:00 <rld> <@spookidream> would there be a way that we could get a score breakdown on the clan page?
15:01 <rld> <@spookidream> right now it's hard to tell where most of the points are coming form
15:01 <rld> <@spookidream> *From
15:02 <Mandevil> @spookidream There IS breakdown on the clan page.
15:02 <Croesus> [US] shottyscotty (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:5209
15:02 <rld> <@spookidream> oh, I thought that was achievements, because that's all I could see for a while
15:03 <Mandevil> @spookidream True, the achievements swamp that breakdown.
15:05 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Shaman Karnov, on T:32666
15:06 <rld> <@spookidream> oh shit
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15:08 <rld> <@spookidream> YES
15:11 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Shaman Karnov, on T:32787
15:14 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Shaman Karnov, on T:32956
15:14 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Shaman Karnov, on T:32976
15:14 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Shaman Karnov, on T:32986
15:15 <Croesus> [US] shottyscotty (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:5845
15:18 <Croesus> [EU] Hill (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed Nalzok, on T:25458
15:18 <Croesus> [EU] Hill (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25461
15:19 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Chromatic Dragon, on T:33802
15:19 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:33803
15:22 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:67371
15:22 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:67372
15:33 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) genocided class ;, on T:67527
15:41 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 290 points, 356 turns, killed by a bolt of cold, while reading a book
15:41 <Croesus> [EU] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:98
15:47 <Croesus> [EU] khamul (Sam Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur, on T:2850
15:51 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 320 points, 517 turns, killed by a hobbit
15:53 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:67665
15:56 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Death, on T:67696
15:56 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Famine, on T:67705
15:57 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Famine, on T:67722
15:58 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:67753
15:59 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Famine, on T:67770
16:01 <Croesus> [US] theGreatFudd (Sam Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed historic partly eaten figurine of a woodchuck named Carl", on T:67781
16:02 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: Ashpool (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 198 points, 1367 turns, killed by a fox, while reading a book
16:03 <Croesus> [US] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 9 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27412
16:03 <Croesus> [US] [A]: theGreatFudd (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 3422301 points, 67785 turns, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/theGreatFudd/tnnt/dumplog/1538863051.tnnt.txt
16:04 <Croesus> [Ac] theGreatFudd just earned 20 new achievements.
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16:09 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: Ashpool (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 193 points, 1041 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion
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16:32 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: Ashpool (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 876 points, 2862 turns, killed by a pony
16:33 <Croesus> [Ac] Ashpool just earned Pet Rescue.
16:45 <Croesus> [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:33166
16:46 <Croesus> [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:33178
16:51 <Croesus> [Tr] Luxidream now has Most Ascensions!
16:56 <Croesus> [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:33612
16:56 <K2> ais523 thanks those are good ideas
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17:10 <rld> <@spookidream> achv[0]: 0x204050189e224411 achv[1]: 0x11e1c180100000 achv[2]: 0x7800682003000
17:10 <rld> <@spookidream> still getting some debug messages in game
17:16 <Croesus> [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:34430
17:19 <Croesus> [EU] Hill (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:30508
17:20 <raisse> poor croesus
17:20 <raisse> and it's croesus announcing it, too!
17:40 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:39721
17:40 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) genocided class R, on T:39722
17:45 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:40341
17:59 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) genocided master mind flayer, on T:43661
18:00 <Croesus> Current Day as of 2018-10-27 18:00 UTC: Games: 40, Asc: 3, Scum: 12. 778010477 turns, 9968919 points. 5d 03:09 gametime. (46%Wiz), (54%Gno), (61%Neu), (61%Fem), 4d 05:59 to go!
18:04 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) genocided mind flayer, on T:44999
18:07 <K2> ais523: we're working on implementing your suggestions
18:08 <K2> most asc and most conducs is live, more to follow
18:08 <Croesus> [US] shottyscotty (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12120
18:08 <K2> list of achievements and their description is on the rules page, i just need to clean it up some
18:15 <rld> <@spookidream> K2: can we group achievements as one scoring category on the clan score breakdown
18:15 <Croesus> [EU] Hill (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:33432
18:15 <rld> <@spookidream> right now it's kind of a mess
18:15 <rld> <@spookidream> like Mandevil said
18:17 <K2> looking
18:17 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:46631
18:18 <K2> @spookidream which section exactly?
18:18 <K2> under general info there's # of achievements
18:18 <K2> thats that clans ach score
18:19 <rld> <@spookidream> 2018-10-26 21:10    greatrace:orc    Great Orc    200
18:19 <rld> <@spookidream> it lists every achievement independently as 1 point
18:19 <raisse> yes, every achievement is 1 point
18:19 <raisse> grading them would have been too hard
18:20 <rld> <@spookidream> can we group them together so that the score breakdown is easier to read
18:20 <rld> <@spookidream> If I want to know what achievements the clan has already completed I can look above
18:20 <K2> but you can already see that
18:21 <K2> bottom of clan page, every ach in yellow is what the clan as a whole has earned
18:21 <K2> am i misunderstanding something
18:21 <Croesus> [EU] Hill (Pri Hum Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 40 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:33915
18:22 <aosdict> K2: luxi is referring to the text list of earned achievements
18:22 <rld> <@spookidream> 2018-10-26 21:10    ach:pestilence    Curer of Pestilence    1 2018-10-26 21:10    ach:treefruit    Isaac Newton    1 ^
18:23 <K2> oh that part
18:23 <rld> <@spookidream> can we group these together so there's not a ton of 1s taking up the whole list
18:24 <K2> i see
18:24 <aosdict> yeah it's redundant with the achievements display
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18:25 <K2> will look into it
18:32 <Croesus> [EU] Hill (Pri Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:34360
18:32 <Croesus> [EU] Hill (Pri Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:34362
18:35 <Croesus> [US] shottyscotty (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:13144
18:45 <ais523> that's a lot more achievements than I expected
18:45 <ais523> I like it, though
18:45 <ais523> "all achievements" seems unlikely unless a) you specifically go for it and b) you play a lot
18:45 <ais523> many of them are kind-of specific
18:46 <ais523> hmm, what are swap chests?
18:48 <aosdict> ais523: limited item sharing between games
18:50 <ais523> whose games? same player or same clan?
18:50 <ais523> I assume the limits are to stop you doing things like trading Amulets of Yendor to get very small turncounts
18:50 <aosdict> ais523: any games (hopefully on any servers)
18:51 <aosdict> limits are also to prevent them from just building up a bunch of junk that nobody wants.
18:51 <ais523> so you put an item in and get someone else's item out?
18:51 <aosdict> basically. limit 1 exchange per swapchest
18:51 <aosdict> see the tnnt article on the wiki, I updated it yesterday with swapchest exclusion rules
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19:01 <K2> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/The_November_NetHack_Tournament#Swap_chest
19:01 <rld> <@spookidream> can't you put in up to 3 items?
19:01 <K2> ais523: a player can put up to three items in the swap chest, can only take one out
19:02 <K2> player must put in at least one item before they can remove an item (or even look to see whats in it)
19:03 <ais523> presumably this will make games easier on average, I can easily imagine philanthropic players throwing any duplicate valuable items they have in, and the number of items in there can only increase over time
19:03 <K2> Tangles is working on a method so all three hdf servers' swap chests share info
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19:03 <ais523> actually I'm curious as to what the griefing potential of those is, but I can't think of much offhand
19:03 <ais523> I guess you could #name the items in misleading ways (are names preserved?)
19:03 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:51759
19:04 <K2> i dont believe you can name an item
19:04 <K2> the chest will show you which player put which item into it
19:04 <ais523> well you can name items in-game, so you'd have to remove the names if you want them to come out of the chest un-IDed
19:04 <ais523> oh, scrolls of fire should probably be banned
19:04 <K2> also, the location(s) of the chest are not just an easy stroll from the beginning level ;)
19:05 <K2> ais523 why scrolls of fire? those have utility
19:05 <ais523> read-IDing them can cause a lot of self-inflicted damage
19:05 <aosdict> ais523: Any name on the object is removed and replaced with text like "a token from aosdict"
19:05 <ais523> whereas most of the items in the chest are safe to use
19:06 <aosdict> ais523: Also, all items in it come identified.
19:06 <ais523> oh, coming identified makes things rather differentt
19:06 <aosdict> If you get a scroll of fire, you KNOW you're getting a scroll of fire.
19:06 <ais523> does seeing the identified items add discoveries?
19:06 <aosdict> Nope.
19:06 <aosdict> If you want to know how that makes sense, a wizard did it.
19:08 <ais523> if it does then people would probably try to keep at least one of every random-ID item in there so that it could act as a free proactive full-ID, so I guess not
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19:08 <ais523> [20:06] <aosdict> If you get a scroll of fire, you KNOW you're getting a scroll of fire.
19:08 <ais523> [20:06] <ais523> does seeing the identified items add discoveries?
19:08 <ais523> [20:06] <ais523> if it does then people would probably try to keep at least one of every random-ID item in there so that it could act as a free proactive full-ID, so I guess not
19:10 <aosdict> ais523: Correct, it does not.
19:11 <ais523> can swap chests be picked up?
19:11 <aosdict> No, they're incredibly heavy.
19:12 <ais523> I don't know of any glitches in 3.6.1 which allow picking up incredibly heavy objects, but you could have done it in 3.4.3
19:12 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:52899
19:13 <ais523> blunt-#force would presumably destroy the chest but not drop any items
19:15 <aosdict> I think Tangles has closed off most of the loopholes relating to it. Check with him.
19:15 <ais523> sorry, I just see a new feature like this and it makes me start thinking of everything
19:16 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:53761
19:17 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:53809
19:17 <K2> no need to apologize
19:17 <K2> you might think of something we didnt
19:18 <K2> why i like doing early beta runs so much
19:18 <K2> would rather catch issues before instead of during ;)
19:18 <ais523> there's no obvious problem with migrating the things (which you could do by digging holes underneath them)
19:19 <ais523> or moving them in-level (wand of teleport or pet nymph)
19:29 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:55914
19:29 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:55915
19:34 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 234 points, 895 turns, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food
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20:53 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: jt (Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha), 412 points, 2071 turns, killed by a giant bat
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21:03 <Croesus> [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 446 points, 1202 turns, killed by a giant bat, while sleeping
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21:16 <Croesus> [EU] jt (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:2691
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21:50 <Croesus> [EU] jt (Rog Orc Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:6925
22:15 <oh6> speaking of picking up the swap chest, I nymphs can pick up pretty much anything
22:17 <oh6> I think nymphs can, I mean
22:19 <Croesus> [EU] jt (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:9881
22:25 <ais523> players in nymph polyform are still limited by the absolute cap on carry cap
22:25 <K2> need to test that
22:25 <ais523> monster nymphs can pick up anything, though
22:26 * K2 fires up the test wiztest build
22:29 <oh6> OK, got Fire Brand out of the general store
22:29 <K2> nymph cannot pickup the swap chest
22:29 <oh6> ok
22:30 <K2> wel... at least me poly'ed into one couldnt
22:30 <oh6> hmm
22:30 <K2> oh shit hah
22:30 <K2> wand of teleport makes it go bye bye
22:30 <oh6> oops!
22:30 <K2> ^^ Tangles
22:31 <oh6> not sure if we should really worry about that
22:31 <K2> it would only affect that persons games
22:31 <K2> unless bones...
22:31 <K2> hmm
22:31 <K2> but still
22:31 <K2> swap chest should not be teleported imo
22:32 <oh6> mine's end isn't bones-elegible I think, but the valley is
22:33 <oh6> hmm, then there's wand of polymorph
22:36 <K2> i just poly'ed the chest into a lamp
22:38 <oh6> actually, you could maybe polymorph a regular tool into a swap chest
22:38 <oh6> if we've made them non-wishable then maybe not
22:38 <ais523> I assume it has a generation chance of 0, I think that makes it not a valid polymorph result (given that it's an item)
22:42 <K2> we'll review before go time
22:42 <K2> i personally dont think you should be able to tele or poly it
22:42 <K2> need time to let Tangles and rest of the team weigh in
22:50 <oh6> also there's forcing it with a pick-axe or other blunt weapon
22:57 <Croesus> [EU] jt (Rog Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant beetle, on T:13756
22:58 <Croesus> [EU] jt (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14014
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23:01 <K2> you cant #force or use a key on the chest
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23:12 <Croesus> [EU] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15579
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23:20 <Croesus> [EU] jt (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:16566
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23:39 <Croesus> [EU] Hill (Pri Hum Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:35490
23:39 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:56498
23:43 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) genocided gremlin, on T:57105
23:45 <Croesus> [US] shottyscotty (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:21414
23:46 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57555
23:46 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:57566
23:46 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:57589
23:48 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:57744
23:50 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:57860
23:50 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:57863
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23:51 <Croesus> [EU] jt (Rog Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:21525
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23:54 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:58759
23:56 <Croesus> [US] [D]: Karnac (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 455 points, 737 turns, killed by a giant bat
23:59 <Croesus> [US] Luxidream (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:59929