00:00 DAILY STATS AT 2018-10-20 00:00 UTC: Games: 270, Asc: 1, Scum: 213. 272589 turns, 1591572 points. 3d 1h 0m 22s gametime. 87%Wiz, 84%Elf, 86%Cha, 88%Mal, 11d 23h 59m to go! 00:00 [US] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10355 00:03 greqrg it wouldnt be intentional 00:03 bot isnt quite finished yet 00:04 !time 00:04 K2: 2018-10-20 00:04:11 UTC. 2018 Tournament begins in '11d 23:55:49' 00:04 plenty of time 00:04 K2: Yeah ok I just kind of mashed the dumplog stuff together and figured I'd test it later. Guess what I didn't do :P 00:04 figured ;) 00:04 K2 All good, was just confirming what you were seeing on my end 00:05 * K2 pets Croesus 00:06 !lastgame 00:06 Tangles: [EU] (sorry, no dump exists for Hill) | [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/ShivanHunter/tnnttnnt/dumplog/1539976542.tnnt.txt | [AU] (sorry, no dump exists for Tangles) 00:06 !lastgame Tangles 00:06 Tangles: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/tnnttnnt/dumplog/1539765145.tnnt.txt | [AU] (sorry, no dump exists for Tangles) 00:06 yeah ok 00:07 I'll have a proper look later today, after I've had coffee :) 00:07 heh 00:07 The LifeForce™ 00:09 !source 00:09 Tangles: https://github.com/tnnt-devteam/tnntbot 00:10 cool... I remembered to change that :) 00:10 awesome 00:12 [US] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12376 00:16 [US] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:14278 00:17 Croesus has Twitter support ??? 00:19 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 34999 points, 14418 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 00:21 -!- asimov.freenode.net changed the topic on #tnnt to: Discussion of TNNT: The November Nethack Tournament :: Player/clan sign up is now live - https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/9n9ow1/playerclan_sign_up_is_now_live_the_november/ 00:21 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v Croesus] by ChanServ 00:22 PavelB: Yeah it's mostly working. 00:22 I have never seen Beholder/Croesus do anything Twitter-related 00:22 It's tweeting too much atm though. I'd rather it ignored livelog events and just report game-endings and trophies. 00:23 Oh, it posts to twitter, rather than reading from twitter and posting here 00:23 -!- stenno has quit [Killed (barjavel.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 00:23 yeah 00:23 That would explain why I've never seen it 00:23 -!- stenno_ has joined #tnnt 00:23 What's its Twitter account? 00:23 oh hmm.. I hadn't even really considered doing it the other way. 00:23 https://twitter.com/TNNT_announce 00:24 actually it's the same twitter account we used for the /dev/null/tribute last year, so you can still see all those old tweets too. 00:25 !lastgame 00:25 Tangles: [EU] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/H/Hill/tnnt/dumplog/1539789461.tnnt.txt | [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/tnnt/dumplog/1539988811.tnnt.txt | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/tnnt/dumplog/1539962377.tnnt.txt 00:25 better. 00:25 took less coffee than expected. 00:26 ;) 00:33 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:07 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:10 [EU] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Shan Lai Ching, on T:6104 01:11 -!- tacco| has joined #tnnt 01:25 -!- hf_guest_59913 has quit [Quit: *poof*] 02:29 -!- stenno_ has joined #tnnt 02:34 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:01 -!- tacco| has quit [] 03:24 [US] toneLive (Arc Dwa Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 7 darts on an altar, on T:3011 04:00 HOURLY STATS AT 2018-10-20 04:00 UTC: Games: 70, Asc: 0, Scum: 70. 0d 0h 0m 56s gametime. 100%Wiz, 11d 19h 59m to go! 04:07 [US] IceBox (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:48685 04:09 [US] [D]: Chansu (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 479 points, 1929 turns, killed by a hobgoblin 04:18 [US] IceBox (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:48999 04:18 [US] IceBox (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:49003 04:31 -!- stenno_ has joined #tnnt 04:35 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:40 [US] IceBox (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:49783 04:49 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 04:49 [US] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur, on T:3853 05:02 [US] [D]: shottyscotty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 114 points, 373 turns, killed by a little dart 05:16 [US] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:6487 05:29 [US] [D]: Karnac (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2264 points, 2557 turns, killed by a killer bee 05:31 -!- stenno_ has joined #tnnt 05:37 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:42 [US] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:10040 05:43 [US] [D]: Chansu (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 327 points, 2205 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while sleeping off a magical draught 05:48 -!- introsp3ctive has joined #tnnt 05:49 [US] shottyscotty (Tou Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3462 06:00 CURRENT DAY AS AT 2018-10-20 06:00 UTC: Games: 81, Asc: 0, Scum: 76. 22718 turns, 38956 points. 0d 2h 34m 56s gametime. 95%Wiz, 94%Elf, 95%Cha, 99%Mal, 11d 17h 59m to go! 06:08 [US] [D]: Karnac (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Law), 1087 points, 2072 turns, killed by a giant ant 06:10 [US] [D]: shottyscotty (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3455 points, 4747 turns, killed by a soldier ant 06:10 shottyscotty just earned Pet Whisperer. 06:27 [US] [D]: Karnac (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 262 points, 615 turns, killed by a hobbit 06:30 [US] [D]: Karnac (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 58 points, 115 turns, killed by a grid bug, while sleeping 06:35 -!- greqrg has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:38 [US] Karnac (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (cockatrice), on T:335 06:51 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1056 points, 1639 turns, killed by a rothe 07:00 HOURLY STATS AT 2018-10-20 07:00 UTC: Games: 104, Asc: 0, Scum: 99. 0d 2h 9m 59s gametime. 99%Elf, 11d 16h 59m to go! 07:22 [EU] nht (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed magic marker", on T:5874 07:25 [EU] nht (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased bag of holding", on T:5878 07:29 [EU] nht (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed ring of polymorph control", on T:5930 07:29 [EU] nht (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed wand of polymorph", on T:5931 07:31 [EU] nht (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:5939 07:31 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1825 points, 5034 turns, killed by a soldier ant 07:31 ShivanHunter just earned Pet Rescue. 07:32 -!- stenno_ has joined #tnnt 07:37 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:38 [EU] nht (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:6114 07:57 [EU] [D]: nht (Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha), 64013 points, 6782 turns, petrified by a cockatrice 07:58 nht just earned 13 new achievements. 08:00 HOURLY STATS AT 2018-10-20 08:00 UTC: Games: 14, Asc: 0, Scum: 12. 11828 turns, 65841 points. 100%Cha, 11d 15h 59m to go! 08:14 [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:3306 08:15 -!- elenmirie__ has joined #tnnt 08:18 -!- elenmirie_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:45 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 272 points, 1700 turns, killed by a magic missile 08:54 [US] [D]: SL3XM3 (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 2725 points, 2737 turns, killed by a soldier ant 09:05 [US] [D]: SL3XM3 (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 172 points, 1477 turns, killed by a bat 09:05 -!- PeterQ has joined #tnnt 09:08 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 7335 points, 6617 turns, killed by an air elemental 09:15 [US] [D]: SL3XM3 (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 152 points, 389 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 09:18 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3674 09:25 [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4102 09:30 [US] [D]: SL3XM3 (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 952 points, 1692 turns, killed by a soldier ant 09:33 -!- stenno_ has joined #tnnt 09:38 -!- stenno_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:39 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (gremlin), on T:30276 09:40 [US] [D]: SL3XM3 (Mon-Hum-Mal-Law), 1149 points, 922 turns, killed by a giant ant 09:44 [US] [D]: SL3XM3 (Mon-Hum-Fem-Cha), 247 points, 470 turns, killed by a bat 09:45 [EU] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13122 09:52 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 helm of brilliance", on T:25409 09:55 [US] SL3XM3 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Orcrist bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:843 10:00 HOURLY STATS AT 2018-10-20 10:00 UTC: Games: 46, Asc: 0, Scum: 40. 0d 2h 12m 24s gametime. 89%Wiz, 11d 13h 59m to go! 10:04 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1522 points, 7276 turns, killed by a water demon 10:05 elenmirie just earned Diamond in the Rough. 10:08 [EU] [D]: nht (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2666 points, 1153 turns, killed by a tengu, while praying 10:10 -!- stenno_ has joined #tnnt 10:13 [US] [D]: SL3XM3 (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 2827 points, 2653 turns, killed by a gnome 10:13 [EU] [D]: nht (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 460 points, 243 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 10:20 [EU] khamul (Bar Orc Mal Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Set, on T:31310 10:21 [EU] [D]: nht (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1250 points, 351 turns, killed by a dwarf 10:24 [EU] [D]: nht (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 384 points, 223 turns, killed by a dwarf 10:25 [US] [D]: SL3XM3 (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1128 points, 1275 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 10:27 [EU] [D]: khamul (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 271468 points, 31617 turns, killed by an air elemental 10:27 [US] Eleven (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:36763 10:28 khamul just earned 22 new achievements. 10:32 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 359 points, 1742 turns, killed by a kitten 10:38 [EU] [Q]: HalNovek (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 2193 points, 4702 turns, quit 10:39 HalNovek just earned Curse the Darkness. 10:40 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 250 points, 894 turns, killed by a gnome zombie 10:51 [US] [D]: Bugpowder (Pri-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4306 points, 6260 turns, killed by a white unicorn 11:00 HOURLY STATS AT 2018-10-20 11:00 UTC: Games: 13, Asc: 0, Scum: 1. 0d 19h 54m 23s gametime. 38%Hum, 11d 12h 59m to go! 11:13 [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7608 11:25 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 10491 points, 7992 turns, caught himself in his own fireball 11:25 [US] Eleven (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "uncursed magic marker", on T:37765 11:29 -!- Cassieopeia_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:29 -!- Cassieopeia_ has joined #tnnt 11:29 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 491 points, 1535 turns, killed by a goblin 11:31 that's nice! my new arc finds a silver saber in the starting room' 11:32 nice! 11:33 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 245 points, 642 turns, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 11:40 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 494 points, 981 turns, killed by a dwarf 11:41 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 853 points, 1635 turns, killed by a cave spider 11:41 grrrr 11:46 [US] Eleven (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:38567 11:47 [US] Eleven (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class R, on T:38567 11:47 [US] Eleven (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:38568 11:48 [US] Eleven (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding", on T:38568 11:55 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 886 points, 1495 turns, killed by a pony 12:00 CURRENT DAY AS AT 2018-10-20 12:00 UTC: Games: 425, Asc: 0, Scum: 387. 133198 turns, 426171 points. 1d 9h 22m 50s gametime. 94%Wiz, 92%Elf, 94%Cha, 96%Mal, 11d 11h 59m to go! 12:09 [US] Bugpowder (Pri Elf Mal Cha) had Sting bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:3489 12:11 [US] ShivanHunter (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:2092 12:16 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of polymorph", on T:29519 12:17 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:29543 12:17 -!- stenno_ is now known as stenno 12:18 [US] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:29560 12:19 [US] [D]: rebatela (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 414300 points, 29591 turns, petrified by a chickatrice 12:19 hey, the 'n' option in the tournament menu is great, but it would be nice if we get a feedback that the copying was successful 12:19 * stenno pressed 'n' like a madperson 12:20 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 89 points, 256 turns, killed by a goblin 12:21 also some warning/confirmation to avoid accidentally doing that 12:23 "Really overwrite your tnntrc with your 362rc?" 12:23 yeah 12:23 you can get warning to avoid getting killed by a goblin by naming Sting :P 12:23 if you have an elven dagger, yes 12:24 and avoid stepping in invisible spiked pits just before the goblin appears 12:27 woot, double ShivanHunter bones 12:27 oh god lol 12:28 I've been leaving too many of those :| 12:28 me too 12:28 on the mines entrance stairs 12:28 don't know what killed you, possibly the gnome lord 12:28 (who doesn't hurt me because I'm a gnome and you were probably an elf 12:28 ) 12:28 if you get one at the book mines' end, be careful, though I'm pretty sure both my arch-lich and balrog levelported away 12:29 I'm not going to mines end until I have more HP anyway 12:30 but thanks for the warning 12:32 [EU] [D]: stenno (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1362 points, 2066 turns, killed by a killer bee 12:32 so many 'a' s 12:37 pity that bones will be wiped prior to the tournament starting, I'd love me some prestocked bones levels 12:47 [EU] [Q]: stenno (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1275 points, 1524 turns, quit 12:54 stenno there is feedback 12:54 you have to scroll up in your terminal window to see it 12:55 wut 12:55 thge 'n' option 12:55 the 12:56 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 554 points, 2243 turns, killed by a hill orc 12:56 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 12002 points, 8564 turns, killed by a leocrotta 12:56 doesn't work 12:56 oh there it is 12:56 a y/n confirmation would be helpful.. dunno how to add that 12:56 * K2 looks it up 12:57 very helpful! 13:00 HOURLY STATS AT 2018-10-20 13:00 UTC: Games: 112, Asc: 0, Scum: 106. 45558 turns, 430095 points. 83%Wiz, 11d 10h 59m to go! 13:00 you don't have to scream all the time, Croesus 13:01 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 149 points, 482 turns, killed by a fox 13:01 LOUD NOISES 13:02 Tangles: nice touch on Croesus displaying a quit event 13:03 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:18 elenmirie__ found your tnnt bones in minetown :/ 13:19 there are quite a few of those... I'm doing protection racket 13:19 or trying to 13:19 ahh 13:24 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 13:24 hmm ya know what 13:25 and i should have done this from the beginning 13:25 the 'n' key for copying over 362 cfg should really be something you have to hold shift for, that way you dont accidentally hit it 13:26 -!- greqrg has joined #tnnt 13:27 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2850 points, 1960 turns, killed by a rock piercer 13:28 [EU] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 grey dragon scale mail", on T:1031 13:29 there 13:29 that fixes that 13:29 raisse: no more brushing up against a key and copying over file 13:29 'n' is now '$' 13:29 thank you! 13:30 yes, if you hit that accidentally you're too obsessed with zorkmids 13:30 lol 13:32 [US] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +5 gray dragon scale mail", on T:12082 13:32 I got +2, did you get +5? 13:33 i DID 13:33 yay! 13:33 \o/ 13:33 raisse: My dwa arc found your dwa arc bones last night. I was... somewhat disappointed :P 13:33 I never dare 13:33 yes, wiz bones are more interesting 13:33 More bullwhips and pick axes! 13:33 i always go big on armor/weapon wishes 13:33 and (cursed) tinning kits and touchstones! 13:34 when wizards find other wizards' bones there's a good chance of new spellbooks/scrolls/potions 13:36 Yeah, I was hoping for a CoMR or even a +3 small shield when I saw that it was a bones level 13:36 lol, I got blinded by a "Rotten food!" carrot, and could immediately see again because it was a carrot 13:36 ha, don't think I've seen that before 13:37 [EU] [D]: HalNovek (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 313 points, 2167 turns, killed by a housecat called Rex 13:38 [EU] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:5095 13:39 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1025 points, 1576 turns, killed by a rothe 13:41 [EU] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "gjdk", on T:5633 13:42 You consume rotten elf. You feel wide awake. 13:45 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10153 13:52 [US] k2 (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:13533 14:00 HOURLY STATS AT 2018-10-20 14:00 UTC: Games: 189, Asc: 0, Scum: 185. 0d 1h 12m 27s gametime. 99%Mal, 11d 9h 59m to go! 14:01 [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:11015 14:08 -!- PeterQ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:11 that's a better way to become literate than by engraving "gjdk"! 14:12 the huge proportion of scummed games in the hourly stats makes me cringe even though I'm not doing the scumming 14:13 and I think you should exclude the scummed games from the percentages because a scummer will probably do the same role/race/gender combination over and over again and skew the statistics 14:13 ShivanHunter wrote a java script for autoscumming ;) 14:15 that's why we have 99% scummed games 14:16 I still think they shouldn't count for the stats 14:16 even if you feel a need to mention them 14:17 they're not playing 185 elf wizards, they're basically playing 1 elf wizard 14:17 or perhaps a couple 14:29 [EU] Raisse (Arc Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13603 14:29 yay! amulet! 14:29 I already had a BoH from the hardware store in minetown 14:30 now all I need is a cloak of some kind, I think the elves are having a dispute with the tailors again 14:37 [EU] [D]: HalNovek (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 358 points, 1762 turns, killed by a werejackal 14:43 whee, ludios too 14:43 still don't have a better cloak than this cursed +0 elven 14:43 also I should stash all this wiz bones loot somewhere 14:44 and I must do shopping before we starve 14:44 -!- asimov.freenode.net changed the topic on #tnnt to: Discussion of TNNT: The November Nethack Tournament :: Player/clan sign up is now live - https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/9n9ow1/playerclan_sign_up_is_now_live_the_november/ 14:44 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v Croesus] by ChanServ 14:46 raisse: I was considering rebalancing the statistics to omit scums. 14:47 I think I'll leave them in for turns, points and gametime (since this will be negligible anyway) but not count them for role/race/gender/alignment stats. 14:48 I've also got a threshold on the hourly reports. It'll shut up if there's less than 10 games in the hour. I'm starting to think I should not count scums for that either. 14:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:04 -!- livingstone.freenode.net changed the topic on #tnnt to: Discussion of TNNT: The November Nethack Tournament :: Player/clan sign up is now live - https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/9n9ow1/playerclan_sign_up_is_now_live_the_november/ 15:04 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v Croesus] by ChanServ 15:17 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 107 points, 239 turns, killed by a falling rock 15:18 not even deep enough to leave bones. 15:21 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 15:22 SPAM: [EU] elenmirie (Hea Gno Fem Neu) had Vorpal Blade bestowed upon her by Hermes, on T:12888 15:25 [AU] [D]: Tangles (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 919 points, 702 turns, killed by a gnome king, while reading a book 15:25 lol SPAM: 15:26 Tangles just earned Absolute Monarchy. 15:26 that was meant to be an internal marker. 15:28 -!- introsp3ctive has quit [Quit: See you space cowboy...] 15:28 -!- tolkien.freenode.net changed the topic on #tnnt to: Discussion of TNNT: The November Nethack Tournament :: Player/clan sign up is now live - https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/9n9ow1/playerclan_sign_up_is_now_live_the_november/ 15:28 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v Croesus] by ChanServ 15:29 it would perhaps be a good thing to give the different kinds of announcements different markers so we can /ignore some 15:34 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 41856 points, 17375 turns, killed by a fire giant 15:34 aargh! and it was going so well 15:35 Raisse just earned Ocean's Eleven, Heisenberg, and Imitation Bones. 15:35 I'd just unburneded myself by putting a lot of stuff in a sack 15:35 but one of the giants had a two-handed sword 15:39 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 159 points, 990 turns, killed by a bat 15:39 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 0 points, 93 turns, killed by a carnivorous bag 15:39 pff 15:40 it was in a trao 15:40 trap* 15:47 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 404 points, 1205 turns, killed by Ms. Sneem; the shopkeeper 15:48 hey. don't I get an achievement for the kios? 15:48 for the KOPS 15:48 or perhaps I had it already 15:49 ah yes, had it already 15:49 it's "Stop, Thief' 15:52 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 691 points, 711 turns, killed by a dwarf 15:53 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 74 points, 90 turns, killed by a boiling potion 16:01 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 95 points, 247 turns, killed by a jackal 16:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:05 [EU] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:17851 16:07 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 346 points, 1071 turns, killed by an acid blob 16:31 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 16:32 [AU] Tangles (Hea Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:5087 16:33 -!- tacco| has joined #tnnt 16:38 -!- Cassieopeia has joined #tnnt 16:38 -!- Cassieopeia_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:42 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 1219 points, 2519 turns, killed by a killer bee 16:43 Raisse just earned Beast Master. 17:00 lol, that was because I got a tame djinni from a magic lamp 17:00 I didn't actually tame it 17:19 so i found SL3XM3's bones on dlvl 10. as soon as i entered the level, was met by an angry full grown black dragon 17:20 they werent killed by it, but i wonder if it was their pet or what 17:20 crazy 17:22 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:57 [US] [Q]: rebatela (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2301 points, 2586 turns, quit 18:00 Current Day as at 2018-10-20 18:00 UTC: Games: 739, Asc: 0, Scum: 678. 214716 turns, 909141 points. 1d 21:30 gametime. (51%Wiz), (33%Hum), (54%Cha), (51%Fem), 11d 05:59 to go! 18:31 You consume rotten elf. You feel wide awake. <-- so somehow the hero instadigests the part of the elf that confers sleep resistance, but won't lose it when they throw it all up later :P 18:39 [US] [D]: k2 (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 104527 points, 22628 turns, crushed to death by a collapsing drawbridge 18:39 oh geez lol 18:39 k2 just earned 26 new achievements. 18:40 !lastgame k2 18:40 K2: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/tnnt/dumplog/1540009470.tnnt.txt | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/tnnt/dumplog/1539632742.tnnt.txt 18:41 The fire giant zaps a wand of striking! 18:41 The drawbridge collapses into the lava! 18:41 An iron chain misses you. 18:41 The fire giant is blown apart by flying debris. 18:41 The fire giant is killed! 18:41 You are hit by a huge chunk of metal! 18:41 Do you want your possessions identified? [ynq] (y) y 18:42 [US] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "a holy greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:11362 18:52 [US] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) averted death, on T:12932 19:02 -!- MTF has joined #tnnt 19:03 -!- rld has joined #tnnt 19:04 Hello RLD =D 19:05 <@kreeptospookydoom> what th- 19:05 the power of irc compels you 19:05 <@kreeptospookydoom> Oh, it's the big tournament, huh 19:07 <@Gunlovers> Imagine still using irc 19:08 <@mtf> Yup, the nethack november tourney 19:08 <@mtf> should be pretty awesome 19:08 <@Dracunos> nethack gets FOUR channels? 19:08 <@Luxidream> wat 19:08 <@Dracunos> mtf playing favorites.. I like nethack too mtf, but don't you think.. you're taking it a little far 19:08 <@mtf> nethack is not the only game with 4 channels 😛 19:09 <@kreeptospookydoom> sure, there's other stuff with more than 3 channels 19:09 <@Dracunos> secret channels don't count 19:09 <@kreeptospookydoom> such as "roguelikes" 19:09 <@kreeptospookydoom> or "roguelites" 19:09 <@mtf> in reality, this channel was made so we could get access to the tnnt bot updates 19:09 <@Gunlovers> 4 nethack channels. Now to mute this channel 19:09 <@Gunlovers> Lol 19:09 <@mtf> death notifications, fun things happening, all the good stuff 19:09 <@mtf> thanks for your input gun 19:09 <@kreeptospookydoom> Well that's fun 19:10 <@Dracunos> That's what everyone does when a new channel is added 19:10 ;) 19:10 <@Dracunos> Don't take it personally 19:10 <@mtf> they could also just not 19:10 <@mtf> lol 19:10 <@Luxidream> let's get back on topic: join the noob nethack tournament 19:10 <@mtf> ^ 19:10 It's not possible to create a new channel and mute it for everyone by default? 19:10 <@kreeptospookydoom> I can't be joining no tournaments 19:10 <@Gunlovers> Rather not join some tourney for a game i havent even attempted to play 19:10 <@kreeptospookydoom> The farthest I ever got in nethack was... 19:11 @mtf what's the channel on discord side named? 19:11 <@kreeptospookydoom> medusa? 19:11 <@mtf> you can get trophys for doing things faaaar less than winning 19:11 <@Luxidream> hey that's pretty far 19:11 <@mtf> even noobs can help out 😄 19:11 <@mtf> k2: #nethack-tnnt 19:11 thanks 19:11 can confirm what @mtf is saying, there are tons of achievements to earn that don't require great skill 19:12 <@Gunlovers> Ah. So pity trophies 19:12 <@mtf> not really, no 19:12 <@mtf> it all adds up score wise 19:12 <@Luxidream> they're worth a lot. but you have to get all of them 19:12 <@mtf> and if you play on a team... every point counts 19:12 <@Luxidream> yeah, not everyone's going to have the time to chase them all down 19:12 <@Luxidream> there's 160+? 19:13 <@mtf> sweeet 19:13 <@Gunlovers> And whats the point of playing for someone who hasnt honestly played 19:13 <@K2> \o/ 19:13 <@kreeptospookydoom> We call it "having fun" 19:13 <@mtf> @Gunlovers to try out a new roguelike while playing with other cool people? aka, having fun? 19:13 <@Dracunos> having fun is overrated 19:13 <@K2> imagine that 19:13 <@mtf> if that's not for you, that's totally fine 19:13 <@K2> having fun... gasp 19:13 <@kreeptospookydoom> yeah gunlovers doesn't enjoy roguelikes or fun 19:13 <@Gunlovers> Having fun? Sure. I’ll have fun as someone does literal circles around me 19:14 <@mtf> you are taking the "tournament" side way too literally 😛 19:14 <@K2> goddammit mtf you made me fire up discord app 19:14 <@mtf> it's very much designed to allow everyone to participate 19:14 <@mtf> fully 19:14 <@mtf> @K2 good 19:14 <@Luxidream> it's more like a community event. where people get hype about nethack for a month. 19:14 <@mtf> gotta bring you into the new age somehow k2 19:15 <@K2> never 19:15 <@K2> @Gunlovers give it a try if you like. but try to reserve judgement AFTER the fact yeah? 19:15 <@Luxidream> plenty of new players get first wins during tournaments 19:15 <@Gunlovers> Ah. So you’re pulling the whole “shut up plz dont ruin my fun” 19:15 <@mtf> eh 19:15 <@K2> nope 19:15 <@mtf> no, not really 19:16 <@Gunlovers> Good. 19:16 <@Luxidream> ? 19:16 <@mtf> ... 19:16 :) 19:16 <@Gunlovers> Do i honestly try. Is the question. And i assume wiki abuse isnt allowed totally 19:16 <@mtf> wiki abuse is absolutely allowed heh 19:16 wiki abuse is totally allowed 19:16 <@Gunlovers> Wiki abuse being looking up every single thing 19:16 of course 19:17 <@K2> yeah go for it 19:17 spoil yourself silly 19:17 <@mtf> nethack is a hard game to play unspoiled 19:17 <@kreeptospookydoom> sounds like nethack to me 19:17 <@Luxidream> spoilers aren't considered abuse in the nethack world 19:17 <@mtf> It's kind of like ADOM in that regard 19:17 <@Gunlovers> I feel like nethack though is a game you HAVE to spoil 19:17 <@Gunlovers> And that aspect turns me off slightly 19:17 <@mtf> somewhat, yea 19:17 <@K2> you're even allowed to take advantage of exploits in the code if they exist 19:17 <@Luxidream> there are a huge amount of inane object interactions that you will never figure out through normal gameplay 19:17 <@mtf> but it's more fun than you'd think 19:18 <@mtf> turns out nethakc is super complex and intricate, so perusing the wiki is actually very interesting 19:18 <@Gunlovers> “You touched this item. You now die.” 19:18 <@mtf> yea, dont' touch medusa 😛 19:18 <@K2> that begs the question - was the first ever ascension achievement by a completely unspoiled player? 19:18 <@Luxidream> medusa is fine 19:18 <@K2> *achieved 19:18 <@mtf> ok you can touch her, just dont like pick up her corpse without gloves 19:18 <@mtf> or walk over her body while blinded without gloves 19:19 K2: The first ascension ever is lost to time, so we'll never know 19:19 <@mtf> yea I wonder 19:19 <@mtf> who was the first to win 19:19 <@Luxidream> Tariru 19:19 another reason to invent time travel. noted 19:19 <@Gunlovers> If i were to play. I would expect to be slightly unspoiled 19:19 <@kreeptospookydoom> well you don't have to read the entire wiki to play the gme 19:19 completely up to you @Gunlovers 19:19 <@Gunlovers> Kinda half to 19:19 <@mtf> lol tariru 19:20 <@kreeptospookydoom> honestly you don't have to read the wiki at all to play the game 19:20 <@kreeptospookydoom> I got as far as medusa before ever visiting the wiki 19:20 <@Gunlovers> That fucking writing in the dust to save your skin 19:20 hahahah 19:20 <@Luxidream> you don't need that to win 19:20 <@Luxidream> at all 19:20 <@Gunlovers> Yes i know that exists 19:20 there's a group of players who never 'write in the fucking dust' ;) 19:20 <@Gunlovers> And im wondering how abused that is 19:20 in fact, we track NOT doing that as a conduct. 19:20 <@Luxidream> it has been nerfed 19:21 <@mtf> yea it's no longer as good as it used to be 19:21 <@mtf> still pretty useful though 19:21 <@mtf> not something you spam, so it's not really irritating or anything 19:21 you mean 'not as overpowered' 19:21 <@Luxidream> I would advise that you not use it starting out 19:21 <@Gunlovers> Oh and never touching any item because cursed 19:21 <@Gunlovers> Right 19:21 <@mtf> you can totally pick stuff up 19:22 <@mtf> just don't wear things until you know their BUC status 19:22 <@Luxidream> don't wield or wear cursed weapons/armor 19:22 <@Gunlovers> I know that part luxi 19:22 <@mtf> there's an altar within the first 6 levels of the game, which will let you learn the BUC status of everything you have 19:22 -!- MTF has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:22 <@Gunlovers> Whats the price 19:22 <@Luxidream> free 19:22 <@mtf> nothing, just need to make it to minetown 19:22 <@mtf> which is what all early game characters strive to do 19:22 <@Luxidream> as long as you're not stupid you'll be fine 19:23 <@Luxidream> there are other ways to determine BUC before that too 19:23 <@shadowsapex> well I strive for sokoban first with non-melee roles 19:23 <@Luxidream> shadowsapex: probably a bad choice in 3.6 19:24 <@Gunlovers> I assume explorer mode is dissallowed in the tourney 19:24 si 19:25 <@Gunlovers> I know wizard is 19:25 that too 19:25 <@shadowsapex> hm. probably 19:25 <@shadowsapex> what am I supposed to do? alternate between sokoban and mines? that sounds ridiculous 19:25 @shadowsapex it depends 19:26 sometimes i hit soko first then mines, sometimes other way around. depends how my game progresses 19:26 <@shadowsapex> ik. well, sokoban is nice for food and random rings 19:26 hunger plays a factor 19:26 <@Gunlovers> Valk dwarf best noob 19:26 <@mtf> I almost always hit mines before soko 19:26 <@mtf> @Gunlovers yea quite good for making the mines safe, and valks are just awesome 19:26 <@Luxidream> it's just that sokoban can be pretty dangerous 19:27 <@Luxidream> I don't see anything wrong with popping in there for food, just don't get in over your head 19:27 <@mtf> I'm going to be playing knight when we start 19:27 <@mtf> gotta get the dragon riding trophy 19:27 <@Gunlovers> How nooby is that loadout 19:27 <@mtf> it's the recommend started combo, but nethack is hard... It's still challenging for sure 19:27 <@mtf> my first win was valk human 19:27 @Gunlovers if you really want a challenge, roll a tourist 19:28 <@Luxidream> yeah, it's not just "press buttons to win" 19:28 <@Luxidream> but still significantly better than most roles 19:28 <@mtf> valks have less of a problem killing thing sin the early game 19:28 <@mtf> so you can kinda just murder everything that gets in your way 19:28 <@mtf> unlike say, healers, who have a fucking scalpel 19:28 orc barbarian is a good beginners starting role too 19:29 <@Gunlovers> Can you eat corpses freely 19:29 <@Gunlovers> Or do you deal with sickness 19:29 <@mtf> not really... some will fuck you up 19:29 <@mtf> others will give you resistances 19:29 <@Gunlovers> Like of course dont eat mimics or medusa 19:29 <@Luxidream> if your dog eats it in most cases it is ok to eat 19:29 <@mtf> @Gunlovers http://runc1ble.org/nethack/corpses.html I use this 19:29 <@Luxidream> mimics are fine 19:29 most corpses will rot over time and fuck you up if you eat them while rotten 19:30 <@Gunlovers> Is it better to eat corpses before going to your rations 19:30 <@mtf> no 19:30 <@Luxidream> rations don't spoil 19:30 <@Luxidream> corpses do 19:30 <@mtf> if you dont' know what a corpse does, it's better to just wait and use healthy food 19:30 fun fact - in GruntHack, you can see the state of the corpse 19:30 <@Luxidream> dyna steals this 19:30 <@mtf> and yea you only have 60 turns to eat a corpse on average 19:30 <@Luxidream> didn't know that 19:30 <@mtf> before it rots 19:31 <@Gunlovers> I mean. Like lets say you kill a goblin. You eat it to sustain yourself before having to use rations 19:31 right 19:31 <@Luxidream> yeah that's fine 19:31 <@mtf> yea thats totally yfine 19:31 <@mtf> but if it were a kobold... 19:31 <@Gunlovers> When i say eat it. I mean next turn you just chomp 19:31 <@Luxidream> yum 19:31 lol 19:31 <@Gunlovers> Kobolds are bad arent they 19:31 <@Luxidream> kobolds are poisonous 19:31 <@FrightBox> they're poisonous, which isn't bad if you have something to deal with it 19:31 <@FrightBox> or are poison resistant 19:31 <@FrightBox> which is a really important resistance to get as early as possible 19:32 <@mtf> yea I'll often eat snakes and bees and things to try to get poison res 19:32 <@mtf> or I'll just play orc 19:33 <@IDF> I usually play Rogue Orc so I can eat/quaff stuff without being poisoned 19:33 <@FrightBox> will you eat them before having a unihorn or something mtf? 19:33 <@FrightBox> you absolute madlad? 19:33 <@mtf> often times, yea 19:33 <@Luxidream> dice roller 19:33 <@Luxidream> ^_^ 19:33 <@FrightBox> my god :kobold: 19:33 <@mtf> I do love to gamble 19:33 <@IDF> Gamble your life 19:33 <@IDF> Lel 19:33 <@mtf> well you can't get fatal poisoning from corpses 19:34 <@IDF> True 19:34 <@mtf> you just love strength 19:34 <@Luxidream> I stopped doing that when one time I got to the seventh or eighth killer bee 19:34 <@FrightBox> haha yeah i had a bad run of killer bees too 19:34 <@Luxidream> after you hit str 3 you start losing maxHP 19:34 <@mtf> lol 19:34 <@mtf> can't you just pray it back up after you get low enough str 19:34 <@FrightBox> i dont know if it restores all of it 19:34 <@FrightBox> and i think your str has to be 4? 19:35 <@Luxidream> it needs to have dropped by at least 4 19:35 <@Luxidream> and you need to be strained or worse 19:35 <@FrightBox> you can pray for pois resistance if you're overtaxed or something at an altar 19:35 <@FrightBox> strained 19:35 <@mtf> oh right the weight requirement 19:35 <@mtf> not that that's hard to achieve 19:35 <@Luxidream> you cannot pray for poison resistance 19:35 <@Luxidream> aside from crowning 19:35 <@mtf> you can get it from crowning 19:35 <@mtf> yea 19:35 <@mtf> but that's it 19:35 <@mtf> and that would be kinda late 19:35 <@mtf> I think 19:35 <@Luxidream> I do that all the time 19:35 <@Luxidream> lmao 19:35 <@mtf> really lol 19:36 <@FrightBox> this is listed as a source of pois res on the wiki 19:36 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/503290324119191593/unknown.png 19:36 <@FrightBox> never tried myself though 19:36 <@mtf> that won't give you poison res 19:36 <@mtf> just restore your strength 19:36 <@Luxidream> doesn't seem to be sourced? 19:36 <@FrightBox> it's listed under "sources of pois resistance" 19:36 <@mtf> that can't be right 19:36 <@Luxidream> wiztest time 19:36 <@FrightBox> get after it lux! 19:39 <@Luxidream> and it doesn't give you poison resistance 19:40 <@Luxidream> not surprised 19:40 <@mtf> didn't think it would 19:40 <@FrightBox> huh, we gotta update the wiki 19:40 <@FrightBox> how many poor souls have tried that as a last desperate act 19:40 -!- K2 changed the topic on #tnnt to: Discussion of TNNT: The November Nethack Tournament :: Player/clan sign up is now live - https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/clanmgmt 19:40 <@mtf> I hope at least a few xD 19:41 <@kreeptospookydoom> wait 19:41 <@kreeptospookydoom> poison resistance from praying 19:41 <@kreeptospookydoom> surely if you're praying while poisoned as a "last desperate act" you'd just receive a cure, no 19:42 -!- mode/#tnnt [+v rld] by ChanServ 19:42 <@Luxidream> "poisoned" isn't a status 19:42 <@Luxidream> "Ill" and "FoodPois" is, but those are entirely separate from poison 19:43 <@Dracunos> teenage nutant nunja turtles? 19:43 <@kreeptospookydoom> y'know, that exact thing went through my mind, but I decided against posting it 19:43 <@Luxidream> there is aosdict's clan 19:43 <@Dracunos> You disgust me, kripto 19:43 <@Luxidream> "teenage nethack ninja turtles"' 19:44 <@mtf> lul 19:44 <@Luxidream> I came up with that 😛 19:44 <@Luxidream> my loyalties lie with OOTC though 19:44 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 231 points, 589 turns, killed by a hobbit 19:46 <@Luxidream> @K2 : what does [D] indicate 19:46 <@IDF> In these tournament, do all members of the clan get to play multiplayer? 19:46 <@mtf> not so much multiplayer, you still play your own single player game, but all of your accomplishments are added up with the rest of the people's on your team 19:46 [US] toneLive (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:8769 19:47 <@mtf> so it's very cooperative 19:47 <@kreeptospookydoom> it's cooperative highscoring 19:47 <@mtf> yup 19:47 <@IDF> I see 19:47 <@mtf> not sure it tnnt has it, but the predecessor had trophys for dieing to the most unique creatures 19:47 <@IDF> I was hardly imagining how a rogue like would be multi player 19:47 <@Luxidream> tnnt does 19:47 <@mtf> ok sweet 19:47 <@Luxidream> it is a smaller part of the tournament though 19:47 <@mtf> so yea, you can literally spend the tournament getting killed by random things 19:47 <@mtf> and still contribute 😄 19:47 <@IDF> Lool 19:48 <@IDF> Wait 19:48 <@IDF> If you die once 19:48 <@IDF> You can restart 19:48 <@mtf> oh yea 19:48 <@IDF> Like in a normal nh 19:48 <@mtf> mhm 19:48 <@IDF> Oh cool 19:48 <@mtf> I think it goes on a whole month? 19:48 <@mtf> It's not just one game 19:48 <@IDF> I thoughr you get disqualified 19:48 <@mtf> nah 19:48 <@IDF> If you die 19:48 <@mtf> that's be one short tourney 😛 19:48 <@IDF> O sweet 19:49 <@IDF> The farthest level I reach was sokoban iirc 19:49 <@IDF> Level 8 19:49 <@FrightBox> that was the farthest i had ever made it before the junethack tourney 19:49 <@FrightBox> i joined OOTC and now i've ascended 6 or 7 times 19:49 <@FrightBox> real testimonial ^^ 19:49 <@IDF> :GWfroggyZoomeyes: 19:49 <@IDF> Damn 19:50 <@mtf> "with only 5 easy payments of 19.99, you too can beat nethack!" 19:50 <@IDF> Lmao the first time I played nethack i thought its a short toy game 19:51 <@kreeptospookydoom> email the dev team 100 bucks and they just send you a save file that's one keypress away from ascension 19:51 <@IDF> Until I read the wiki 19:51 @Luxidream filthy lies, I came up with the name teenage nethack ninja turtles before the name was even announced :P 19:51 <@FrightBox> email me 99 buks and i'll do the same 19:51 <@mtf> @IDF lol I know how that feels... turns out nethack is one of the most complex roguelikes in terms of all its interactions 19:51 <@Luxidream> give me $50 and you'll have it in the next five hours 19:51 <@Luxidream> guaranteed 19:51 <@IDF> Email me 10p and I'll send you a secret trick on how to touch cockatrice without stoning 19:51 -!- raisse has joined #tnnt 19:51 but... I already have the name. 19:53 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 430 points, 1057 turns, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 19:53 <@kreeptospookydoom> I better stop reading this channel or I'll want to start up nethack again 19:53 <@IDF> Ikr 19:53 <@FrightBox> join us kripto! 19:53 <@FrightBox> one of us, one of us 19:53 <@mtf> "his name was kreepto kripto" 19:53 <@Luxidream> 3:01 PM] BOTIRCBot: <@aosdict> luckily the only other people who came up with it are ootc 19:53 <@IDF> Nethack is one of the most replayable game I ever player 19:54 <@kreeptospookydoom> although I assume fiqhack isn't even tournament legal so it's all for naught 19:54 <@FrightBox> yeah fiq was legal for junethack 19:54 <@FrightBox> tnnt is vanilla only 19:54 <@mtf> yea, this is a 3.6.2-dev tourney 19:54 <@IDF> The fact that when you die makes me smile instead lf get angry makes me play the gamr even more 19:54 <@mtf> so a bit less QoL for sure 19:54 <@FrightBox> or rather it's a slight fork that's tnnt specific 19:54 <@FrightBox> yeah IDF it's quite addictive 19:54 <@mtf> @IDF for sure 19:54 <@FrightBox> but tedious as shit sometimes 19:55 <@kreeptospookydoom> too bad, I'm a big sucker for QoL 19:55 <@mtf> nethack is mostly only tedious while price ID'ing 19:55 <@IDF> What is that 19:55 <@Luxidream> we need to bring back interhack 19:55 <@Luxidream> it price IDs for you 19:55 <@mtf> using shop prices to ID items for you 19:55 <@FrightBox> have you ever used curses, kripto? 19:55 <@IDF> O 19:55 <@shadowsapex> sokoban is tedious 19:55 <@IDF> I heard of thay 19:55 <@mtf> @Luxidream that sounds nice 19:55 <@FrightBox> it brought a lot (but not all) of the 19:55 <@kreeptospookydoom> I fucking constantly use curses, god damn it 19:55 <@FrightBox> haha well great 19:55 <@FrightBox> that's all i've got 19:56 <@IDF> >cursed scroll of uncursing 19:56 <@IDF> Hmmmmm 19:56 <@Luxidream> that just does nothing lol 19:56 <@kreeptospookydoom> is that another fork or what 19:56 <@mtf> TNNT is hosted by hardfought.org. Connect to "nethack@hardfought.org" via SSH, and register an account. Then, you can choose any of three servers to play on: hardfought.org: US East (Vermont) eu.hardfought.org: Europe (London) au.hardfought.org: Australia (Sydney) Connect to your preferred server the same way via SSH and select the TNNT game option. That's all there is to it! 19:56 <@kreeptospookydoom> curses I mean 19:56 @luxidream in logs of the internal tnnt channel, I first said the name on july 2 :) 19:56 <@FrightBox> curses? no it's an rc file change you have to make ezpz 19:56 <@FrightBox> if you build the game locally then yeah i think curses is a separate thing you have to set up 19:56 <@Luxidream> foiled again 😦 19:56 <@FrightBox> but it's setup on hdf by default 19:56 <@IDF> I play europe because US lags 19:56 <@IDF> For me 19:57 <@mtf> it def makes the game look way better 19:58 <@kreeptospookydoom> well what's in fiq that's not in curses 19:58 <@kreeptospookydoom> UI wise 19:58 <@IDF> I use IBM graphics but it glitches some other character if for example i quit nethack and I open another (n)curses app 19:58 <@IDF> I think I need to switch it to DEC 19:59 <@Luxidream> @mtf anyone with a hardfought account can play in the tournament but you need to be invited to join a clan 19:59 <@mtf> right 19:59 <@Luxidream> I thought you might mention that, since we are the official clan of discord 20:00 <@IDF> What clan should I join 20:00 Teenage NetHack Ninja Turtles is also open to all 20:00 Being a teen is not required. 20:00 <@mtf> hmm maybe I should put something in the announcement to ask in here about joining OOTC 😃 20:00 <@Luxidream> ootc 20:01 <@IDF> What ootc stands for 20:01 <@FrightBox> a few things i can think of that fh has @kreeptospookydoom: - tooltips and help for unsafe corpses - better auto travel - better menu navigation - less quirky bugs (full inventory ID's from blessed scrolls are busted in curses) 20:01 <@Luxidream> FIQHack has "search over entire dungeon" 20:01 <@mtf> @IDF Order of the Cockatrice 20:01 <@FrightBox> if you can get over better stair travel and not being able to use pg-up and pg-down in menus then that's all i remember 20:01 <@FrightBox> oh shit yeah that search is so amazing 20:01 <@IDF> Lol 20:01 <@IDF> I'll join it 20:02 <@mtf> FH is the most QoL nethack ever 20:02 <@FrightBox> i guess i convinced myself that it's a "skill" to make it without searching so i forgot that one 😉 20:02 <@kreeptospookydoom> it's why I took to playing it 20:02 <@mtf> @Luxidream who has admin privs for the clan? need to get an invite myself 20:02 <@Luxidream> I do 20:02 <@FrightBox> @introsp3ctive does, and a few others 20:02 <@kreeptospookydoom> I don't know about you NETHACK players out there, but I like my LIFE to have QUALITY to it 20:03 <@mtf> kk, I'll update the announcment 20:03 <@Luxidream> @mtf you are already invited 20:03 <@FrightBox> haha i was able to make the switch just fine, though i'll fully admit being able to leave things on the ground and get them later removes like 70% of the tedium of inventory management 20:03 <@IDF> >nethack >real life Pick one 20:03 <@Luxidream> in nethack you can become a demigod in the matter of a few hours 20:03 <@IDF> ^ 20:04 <@mtf> @Luxidream oh true, how do I accept then? lol 20:04 <@Luxidream> https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/clanmgmt/ 20:04 <@FrightBox> should be a little invite at the bottom of your login page mtf 20:04 <@mtf> awesome, thanks 20:04 <@Luxidream> in nethack you can also buy leather armor for fifty cents 20:05 <@mtf> alright, I've finally decided, I'mma be in this tourney 😃 lol 20:05 <@FrightBox> yesss!! 20:05 <@FrightBox> more people more excitement mo betta 20:05 <@Luxidream> ^^ 20:05 <@introsp3ctive> I've been summoned! 20:06 <@introsp3ctive> Who dares speak my name?? 20:06 <@FrightBox> we weren't sure if mtf had his invite 20:06 <@FrightBox> you may return to hibernation 20:06 <@IDF> Cant decide between mutant turtles and cockatrice 20:06 <@IDF> Hmmm 20:06 <@FrightBox> as long as it's not amy's clan 😉 #bundlebundle 20:07 <@introsp3ctive> @mtf I sent you an invite as soon as they opened it up. You get it? 20:07 <@Luxidream> ❤ ❤ ❤ 20:07 <@mtf> @introsp3ctive @Luxidream I added ya'lls names to the announcement. Might have some interesting coming ya'lls way soon 20:07 <@mtf> @introsp3ctive I got luxi's actually, but I've accepted now! 20:07 <@introsp3ctive> Interesting what? 20:08 <@introsp3ctive> What announcement? 20:08 <@mtf> interest* 20:08 <@FrightBox> we're the OFFICIAL roguelike discord clan!!!??? I feel like i just got a nike sponsorship 20:08 <@mtf> check #announcements 20:08 <@introsp3ctive> Oh gotcha. Yeah have them ping me 20:08 <@mtf> 👍 20:09 <@introsp3ctive> Awesome, thank you MTF 20:09 [US] toneLive (Arc Dwa Mal Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a tripe ration, on T:9702 20:09 <@IDF> I want to join OOTC 20:09 <@shadowsapex> maybe I should join 20:09 do i have to be on discord too 20:09 also rip vgt/vgn 20:09 <@introsp3ctive> Just let me know your Hardfought username and I'll invite you. We also have a Discord and IRC channel for the clan. 20:10 <@IDF> my hardfought username is idf 20:10 <@introsp3ctive> Stenno: nah you're good. 20:10 o7 20:10 <@IDF> I'd like to join the discord server, i'll join IRC tomorow 20:10 <@mtf> stenno: we have the OOTC channel hooked up with a discord / IRC bridge, just like this one 20:11 <@Luxidream> @IDF invited 20:11 <@IDF> Thank you 20:11 <@Tone> damn, thought that was a food ration ':-) 20:12 <@IDF> I'm in the clan now 20:12 <@IDF> Yay 20:12 <@introsp3ctive> RIP Tone 20:12 <@mtf> tone did you die yesterday 20:13 <@mtf> I came back and you were on a new character 20:13 <@IDF> Tfw you are hungry and you want to eat and instead pressing food ration you eat some poisoned stuff 20:17 <@Tone> @mtf yeah I accidently killed a gas spore next to a priest and then he paralyzed me for 16 turns when I went to kill him 20:17 <@Tone> very avoidable 20:18 <@Tone> glad I got that out of the way before tnnt starts 20:18 <@mtf> lmao 20:18 <@mtf> brutal 20:19 <@IDF> I am going to play the tournament 20:19 <@IDF> Blindfolded 20:19 <@IDF> Lol 20:19 <@IDF> The first 5 tries maybe 20:19 <@Luxidream> blindfolded IRL 20:19 <@Luxidream> or zen 20:20 <@IDF> Zen 20:20 <@IDF> Cant really feel nethack items irl 20:20 <@IDF> Wait wasnt there a graphics mode for blind people 20:20 <@Luxidream> there's good support for IRL nethack for blind people 20:21 <@Luxidream> how they understand the screen readings is beyond me though 20:21 <@Gunlovers> I might consider tiles lol 20:21 <@Gunlovers> Just so i can tell immediately what is on the floor 20:21 <@Luxidream> I use both 20:21 <@IDF> I never played the graphical one 20:22 <@IDF> I may consider playing it tho 20:23 <@IDF> Sometimes when I read scrolls it says "you feel like someone is helping you" 20:23 <@IDF> What it does? 20:23 <@shadowsapex> remove curse 20:23 <@IDF> Ah nice 20:24 <@IDF> I always named them "someone is helping me :)" 20:24 <@shadowsapex> the message means it did nothing 20:25 <@IDF> Lol 20:25 <@Gunlovers> One thing i took heavily for granted in a lite inspired by nethack. Was being able to self identify 20:25 <@Gunlovers> Didnt need a scroll. Just took patience and luck 20:25 <@Luxidream> "someone is helping you" doesn't mean that it did nothing 20:26 <@Gunlovers> Someone is helping you means an item is now curse free 20:26 <@Gunlovers> I remember that 20:27 <@mtf> can you play tiles in the web terminal on hardfought? 20:27 <@Luxidream> not currently 20:27 <@mtf> hmm so yea, that means no tiles for the tournament right 20:28 <@Luxidream> according to aosdict, paxed has updated vt_tiledata for 3.6.1 20:28 <@Luxidream> but there seems to be little demand for tiles, as the majority of nethack players prefer ascii 20:28 <@mtf> yea, having started with tiles and moved to ascii I now prefer ascii 20:28 <@Gunlovers> I like tiles for practical reasons. 20:29 <@Gunlovers> I can deal with ascii fine. I just like seeing what im fighting so i can accurate gauge its toughness and stuff 20:29 <@mtf> I'm with you there, but nethack doesn't have a ton of monsters... I find that remembering what the letters represent is pretty easy in this game (as opposed to say, ADOM) 20:29 <@mtf> (which has a billion monsters) 20:30 <@Gunlovers> Like is the ant tiny or big 20:30 <@Gunlovers> If its human sized, you fucking run 20:30 <@Gunlovers> If its dog size. You can fight it you know 20:30 <@Luxidream> running from ants? lol 20:30 <@shadowsapex> they're all big enough to murder you lol 20:30 <@mtf> yea ants will fuck you up in NH 20:30 <@Luxidream> good luck with that 20:30 <@mtf> lol 20:30 <@IDF> Beat them with cockatrices 20:30 <@Gunlovers> Just a dumb example 20:30 <@FrightBox> team ant! 20:30 <@mtf> but yea I see what you mean 20:30 <@IDF> Where do cockatrices spawn btw 20:30 <@IDF> I never saw one 20:31 <@mtf> randomly everywhere 20:31 <@Luxidream> I think the best example of where tiles is optimal is say, a tool shop 20:31 <@shadowsapex> I think I tend to see them around 15th level 20:31 <@mtf> can easily see what tools are which, right 20:31 <@Luxidream> an ASCII user has to farlook everything to see what even they're looking at 20:31 <@shadowsapex> or lower 20:31 <@IDF> Ye tiles are the best for shops 20:31 <@Gunlovers> Better not fucking laugh if i die stupidly 20:31 <@mtf> some tiles are cheats too, they'll have a different tile for bad items as opposed to good ones 20:32 <@Luxidream> mtf: no, they shouldn't 20:32 <@mtf> @Gunlovers In the previous tournament, I threw away one of the best runs of my life when I let a kraken drown me in a moat 20:32 <@mtf> even though I had like 50 ways to get away from it] 20:32 @Gunlovers wanna see a silly death? 20:32 <@mtf> so... dont' feel bad 😛 20:32 !lastgame k2 20:32 <@IDF> I love how some shopkeepers are scammers: all their items are mimics and if one attack you the shopkeeper does nothing lol 20:32 K2: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/tnnt/dumplog/1540009470.tnnt.txt | [AU] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/tnnt/dumplog/1539632742.tnnt.txt 20:32 <@Luxidream> ^yeah, everyone dies 20:32 US game 20:32 hah 20:33 <@mtf> lmao drawbridge deaths 20:33 fucking fire giant with a wand of striking 20:33 <@shadowsapex> if you're talking about the fact that mimic chests look slightly different, that's actually a thing in ascii too 20:33 \o/ 20:33 <@mtf> and killing yourself with a quarterstaff thrown in the air? lol but why 20:33 was a test game 20:33 <@Luxidream> my last wizard was easily ascendable, died from full HP when a wand of lightning blew up 8 wands in open inventory 20:33 technically all of these are tests 20:34 <@Luxidream> did 72 damage in one turn 20:34 <@mtf> oh gotcha 20:34 doh @Luxidream 20:34 @mtf I'll let you know when I do another rediit post concerning tnnt 20:34 reddit 20:34 <@mtf> yea please do 20:35 <@mtf> we'll send out some pings at the same time 20:35 <@IDF> Watching your own dumps sure is fun 20:35 cool 20:35 <@Frankenbran🌩> I love teenage mutant ninja turtles 20:35 <@Frankenbran🌩> Wait a minute 20:35 fyi we'll shut down access to the tournament build about 24 hrs prior to start 20:35 <@mtf> with our powers combined, we'll make this a big tournament 20:35 <@Luxidream> @IDF can I put that on the qdb 20:35 <@mtf> makes sense 20:35 -!- deadnoob has joined #tnnt 20:35 gotta wipe xlogfiles, etc 20:35 <@mtf> @Frankenbran🌩 are you joining up dude 20:35 <@mtf> OOTC could use you 20:36 <@Frankenbran🌩> is that the team that plays SLEX, exclusively 20:36 <@mtf> no that's homoslexualjoy 20:36 <@mtf> lol 20:36 <@IDF> The werejackal bites! (20x) 20:36 <@mtf> literally one of the other teams 20:36 <@Frankenbran🌩> oh sick 20:36 <@Frankenbran🌩> I’m joining that one dude sorry cya 20:36 i read that as 'has SLEX exclusively' 20:36 <@mtf> wtf man 20:36 err my client does a strange thing 20:36 or maybe rld is strange? 20:36 rld is weird 20:36 <@mtf> stenno: how so? 20:36 :P 20:36 <@Frankenbran🌩> what’s OOTC tho? Order of the Cockatrice? 20:36 <@IDF> @Luxidream ye you can put it 20:36 apparently Frakenbran has a weird char after their name 20:36 <@mtf> yup 20:37 <@Frankenbran🌩> yeah I do 20:37 <@mtf> he does have a weird char after his name 20:37 ah 20:37 <@mtf> what is that a storm cloud with lightning? 20:37 what is that? 20:37 <@mtf> lol 20:37 can i join cockatrice order 20:37 <@IDF> Its a cloud 20:37 <@Frankenbran🌩> yeah storm cloud 20:37 a deformed clover? 20:37 but the closing > is missing from their name :P 20:37 BUG 20:37 <@mtf> stenno: k2: 20:37 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/503305781958148106/unknown.png 20:37 EXPLOIT 20:37 <@IDF> Rendering issues 20:37 <@Frankenbran🌩> it’s beautiful 20:37 lol 20:37 <@☺☺☺☺Luxidream☺☺☺☺> @deadnoob sure 20:37 <@Frankenbran🌩> oh god luxi 20:37 <@IDF> Jesus 20:37 <@mtf> lul 20:37 <@Frankenbran🌩> that’s terrifying 20:38 :| 20:38 luxidream dont change a thing 20:38 <@mtf> does IRC not do unicode? 20:38 <@☺☺☺☺Luxidream☺☺☺☺> ok 20:38 thats fantastic 20:38 my irc client displays them properly 20:38 @mtf it does 20:38 <@mtf> ah ok 20:38 but i think it gets combined with the '>' 20:38 ? 20:38 <@jonadab> IRC does unicode provided the user's terminal and irc client do unicode. Which most do. 20:38 wot jonadab 20:38 <@IDF> I hate werejackals 20:38 what are you doing on the other side 20:39 <@IDF> The werejackal hits! (2x) The werejackal changes into a jackal. The werejackal bites! (2x) You feel feverish. The werejackal bites! (4x) The werejackal summons help! You feel hemmed in. The werejackal bites! (20x) The werejackal summons help! You feel hemmed in. The werejackal bites! (3x) The werejackal summons help! You feel hemmed in. The werejackal bites! (8x) 20:39 woooo 20:39 <@☺☺☺☺Luxidream☺☺☺☺> deadnoob: you have been invited 20:39 <@jonadab> stenno: I didn't know it was gated. What's the Freenode channel name? 20:39 <@Gunlovers> Im assuming speed is vital even as a fighter 20:39 yup 20:39 <@Gunlovers> Like i know you cant be mollasses 20:39 <@jonadab> I came here because I saw the announcement. 20:39 jonadab: #tnnt 20:39 <@Gunlovers> But is speed a primary concern 20:39 <@jonadab> Ah. 20:40 @jonadab #tnnt 20:40 @Gunlovers end game definitely 20:40 <@shadowsapex> everything needs speed 20:40 -!- jonadab has joined #tnnt 20:40 heya jonadab 20:40 o7 20:40 <@mtf> 👋 20:40 Ah, there we go. 20:40 jonadab do you think you'll have time to play this year? 20:41 <@Luxidream> didn't even know you had discord jonadab 20:41 K2: Not certain. 20:41 @Luxidream I have Bitlbee. 20:41 <@IDF> Best escaping scene I ever witnessed: I attack the watchman The watchman take a wand of digging and zaps it into the floor 20:41 I can ask raisse to send you an invite if you like 20:41 <@Luxidream> ah, makes sense 20:41 <@Luxidream> @IDF you can do that too 20:42 K2: I haven't registered yet. 20:42 <@IDF> Ik 20:42 When does registration close? November 1? 20:42 <@IDF> I once escaped using a teleportation wand 20:42 jonadab as an individual you dont have to register - if you have a dgl account on hardfought, you're good to go 20:42 <@IDF> I really love how NPCs in this game are so smart 20:42 man 12 viewers on the stream 20:42 the registration is really for team/clan play 20:42 this is insane 20:43 K2: Wouldn't I have to register to join a clan, though? 20:43 @IDF you can use their smartness against them (if that makes sense) 20:43 Not much point playing and NOT joining a clan. 20:43 you have an account on dgl hdf right? 20:43 I believe so. 20:43 too easy then 20:44 i'll ask raisse or hothraxxa to send you an invite, check the clan management page to see if any invites are pending 20:44 -!- stenno is now known as stenno\ootc 20:44 are we doing this already 20:44 -!- raisse is now known as raisse\splat 20:44 hah 20:44 apparently? 20:44 and so it begins.... 20:45 :P 20:45 <@IDF> stenno: yeah I know, if you drop potions they'll take it and they'll drink it and you see what happens so you identify it 20:45 @IDF or they throw them at you D: 20:45 <@IDF> D: 20:45 if it's an 'evil' potion like paralysis or acid 20:46 <@IDF> I once combined booze with oil 20:46 <@IDF> I drank it 20:46 <@IDF> And I instantly died 20:46 <@IDF> Lmao 20:46 jonadab: invite has been sent to you 20:46 oh, you did alchemy? 20:46 <@mtf> lol I'm not sure if that's how that works 20:46 <@mtf> but it's how it should work 20:46 <@IDF> Ye i did alchemy 20:46 maybe you alchemized into acid then or so :P 20:46 <@IDF> Ye i think it was acid 20:47 <@mtf> alright guess I'll launch up a test run 20:47 <@mtf> need to remember how to play vanilla 20:47 @mtf what do you play normally? 20:47 will the scoreboard reset on november? 20:48 deadnoob yes 20:48 <@mtf> all kinds of things 20:48 i'll wipe the tnnt xlogfiles 24 hrs prior to tourney start 20:48 <@mtf> my fav win ever was a black dragon, dual lance wielding, knight 20:48 <@mtf> which I know isn't entirely possible in vanilla 20:48 K2: and not let anything log in those 24 hrs? 20:48 correct 20:48 <@mtf> think my fav vanilla win was a priest or samurai 20:49 it is possible in vanila 20:49 vanilla 20:49 thriller of vanila 20:50 <@mtf> ah let me rephrase 20:50 <@mtf> dual wielding dragonbane as a lance, and a normal lance 20:50 <@mtf> double pounding is amazing 20:50 ooh, can you wield two lances at once? 20:51 <@mtf> not in vanilla afaik... in FH you can though 20:51 sure, why not 20:51 yes 20:51 you can in vanilla 20:51 <@mtf> oh neat 20:51 that's why i said 'it is possible in vanilla' :P 20:51 <@mtf> and does it double pound? 20:51 yeah, two attacks 20:51 hah 20:51 double pound 20:51 <@mtf> excellent 20:51 dragon + 2 lance is MAXIMUM STYLE POINTS 20:51 <@mtf> what's the downside? lol 20:51 <@mtf> yea for sure 20:51 <@mtf> I did it on stream 20:51 <@mtf> and it was incredible 20:51 dragons are slow, lances do break 20:52 haha nice 20:52 <@mtf> oh that's right... in FH dragons are fast, and the artifact lance never breaks 20:52 i wish you could dual wield artifact weapons in vanila 20:52 (unless they are artifact lances. also, artifact lances don't exist) 20:52 <@mtf> hmm 20:52 but thats ok 20:52 we have grunthack for that 20:52 [US] toneLive (Arc Dwa Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:12652 20:52 oh yeah they do in FH 20:52 also slashem 20:52 <@mtf> loads of fun 20:52 <@mtf> still 20:53 <@mtf> one lance is still tons of fun 20:53 <@mtf> so I guess we're playing knight 20:53 <@mtf> err, maybe I should save that for when the tourney starts 20:53 [US] Luxidream (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:24552 20:53 <@mtf> stick with some easy valk runs 20:54 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 321 points, 922 turns, killed by a water demon 20:54 <@Luxidream> wait you can dual wield artifacts in grunt 20:54 yes 20:54 and its glorious 20:54 <@mtf> so what are some of the new changes in 3.6.2-dev? 20:54 @mtf its mostly bugfixes 20:54 it's mostly a bugfix for 3.6.1 20:55 yasi: foocalibur: lawful characters can turn any iron weapon that can start in their inventory into a weapon that gives drain resistance, autosearch, and the other excalibur stuff 20:55 <@mtf> hmm 20:55 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/503310375157235742/loido.png 20:55 <@mtf> erggh how do I make the graphics not bad in vanilla 20:55 <@mtf> turn on curses right? 20:56 @mtf IBMgraphics 20:56 <@FrightBox> yeah curses is the best bet if you wanna see your inv and stuff 20:56 <@mtf> I do 20:56 <@mtf> how do I enable that stuff 20:56 <@FrightBox> otherwise changing graphics like k2 said 20:56 DECgraphics 4 lyf 20:56 @mtf there are also some gameplay changes. in particular, if orctown generates, there are roving orcs carrying loot beneath it 20:56 <@Luxidream> K2: is there still the ID bug with curses 20:56 be advised, curses mode has some bugs 20:56 yes 20:56 <@FrightBox> in rc file change the part that says "tty" to "curses" 20:56 <@mtf> bugs? 20:56 <@mtf> @FrightBox cool thanks, I'll try it 20:56 <@FrightBox> most bugs that i've found are just visual 20:57 <@FrightBox> the one for real bug is that turn perm_inven off before reading blessed ID scrolls 20:57 <@Luxidream> if you get a full inventory ID with the inventory sidebar 20:57 <@Luxidream> it doesn't work 20:57 <@mtf> ooof 20:57 <@FrightBox> yeah that one sucks 20:57 <@mtf> so how do you fix that 20:57 <@FrightBox> turn off perm invent, quit, go back in, and then read your ID scrolls 20:57 <@FrightBox> supes annoying, but it works haha 20:57 <@mtf> what's perm invent do again? 20:57 <@mtf> can I just leave it off 20:58 <@FrightBox> you can, but that means your inventory wont be shown on the screen permanently 20:58 <@mtf> ah right 20:58 <@Luxidream> it's the inventory sidebar. I stopped playing with it for that reason 20:58 <@mtf> lame 20:58 <@mtf> well 20:58 <@Luxidream> I ended up putting stream chat there. so it works out I guess 20:58 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/503311061026471956/unknown.png 20:58 <@FrightBox> yeah it's one of the main reasons i left curses too, just figured i'd go full vanilla hermit mode 20:58 <@mtf> will IBM graphics make the walls connect like I expect? 20:58 <@FrightBox> you can take my RC file mtf and see what you think 20:58 <@FrightBox> lemme snag it 20:58 <@mtf> ok 20:58 <@Luxidream> @mtf yes IBMgraphics works 20:59 <@mtf> how do I enable them again 20:59 <@FrightBox> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/I/IceBox/nh361/IceBox.nh361rc 20:59 <@Luxidream> config file or in game options 20:59 <@mtf> kk fright I'll try that 20:59 <@FrightBox> OPTIONS=windowtype:tty OPTIONS=symset:DECgraphics 20:59 <@Luxidream> thats icebox 20:59 <@Luxidream> lmao 20:59 <@FrightBox> yeah, i'm spooky 21:00 <@👻👻👻spookidream 👻👻👻> . 21:01 [EU] jt (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the Oracle, on T:2656 21:01 <@FrightBox> yes, another one on the halloween nick train 21:02 I thought PatR *fixed* the perm_invent problem. 21:02 <@FrightBox> i haven't tested it since 3.6.2 21:02 /me doesn't do Halloween, very restful. 21:02 * raisse\splat doesn't do Halloween, very restful. 21:02 don't know how I got an invisible leading space 21:03 <@FrightBox> it was a ghost space! 21:03 <@spookidream> I'll remove the ghosts for the sake of IRC 21:03 <@FrightBox> looks like you DO DO halloween 21:03 yes, must have been 21:03 my irc client does *disowns it* 21:04 <@IDF> Idk how kicking a ghost works but properly hitting it doesnt 21:04 kicking ghosts ignores their armor class for no apparent reason 21:04 or rather, kicking in general ignores armor class 21:05 that's why kicking boots are so nice especially for beginning characters 21:05 <@IDF> I like to kick doors 21:05 <@IDF> And chests 21:06 <@spookidream> does this mean you can theoretically kick dnh asmodeus to death 21:07 <@spookidream> with his AC-99 21:07 well kicking does like d4 damage or so 21:07 i assume that dnh asmo has 300+ HP 21:07 <@FrightBox> so you're sayin there's a chance! 21:07 <@shadowsapex> maybe if you can get silver kicking boots 21:08 he should regen faster than you can do damage 21:08 [EU] jt (Kni Hum Mal Law) received Excalibur, on T:2743 21:08 can you get those in dnh? 21:08 <@spookidream> I forgot he also has cure wounds 21:08 hehe 21:09 <@shadowsapex> oh. it seems like dnh doesn't have object materials 21:09 <@shadowsapex> I'm getting my variants mixed up 21:12 <@spookidream> aosdict: can you get silver kicking boots in xnh 21:16 [EU] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first item, on T:19346 21:16 [EU] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:19348 21:16 @luxidream (does that still ping?) yes you can 21:17 <@spookidream> @spookidream still pings 21:17 [US] [D]: Qwesti (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2438 points, 3032 turns, killed by a burning scroll 21:17 <@mtf> @FrightBox 21:17 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/503315770558906371/unknown.png 21:17 <@mtf> you are the man 21:17 <@mtf> thank you 21:17 <@spookidream> (at)luxidream 21:17 lol spookidream 21:17 (at)spookiedream dot com 21:17 Qwesti just earned 5 new achievements. 21:17 nice 21:18 er 21:18 <@boo-tf> boo 21:18 @shadowsapex I think dnh *does* have object materials, but it's significantly different from the way xnethack and grunthack do it. 21:20 <@boo-tf> can someone remind me which number pad option I want 21:20 <@spookidream> 1 21:20 <@boo-tf> I don't remember which g is the good one 21:20 <@boo-tf> so I want G? 21:20 <@spookidream> 1 is the default. idk what the others do lol 21:21 wait what 21:21 <@spookidream> I don't think you need msdos-compatible or anything like that 21:21 are you playing numpad 21:21 <@spookidream> me? 21:21 yeah 21:22 <@boo-tf> always 21:22 <@boo-tf> numpad is the way to go 21:22 <@spookidream> I always use numpad, yeah 21:22 .-. 21:22 <@boo-tf> but ok, I'll use 1 21:22 <@spookidream> problem? 21:22 <@boo-tf> nethack purists tend to like vi keys from what I gather 😛 21:23 <@boo-tf> but the thing is 21:23 <@boo-tf> no other roguelikes support vi keys 21:23 <@boo-tf> and I play a ton of them 21:23 <@boo-tf> so... 21:23 <@boo-tf> number pad it is 21:23 <@spookidream> I actually play with numpad off but hjklyubn mapped to the numpad 21:23 <@boo-tf> wat 21:23 <@boo-tf> why 21:23 <@spookidream> control+move 21:23 <@spookidream> is G but faster 21:24 <@spookidream> necessary for speedruns 21:24 <@boo-tf> so shouldn't you use number pad 2? 21:24 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/503281133438369792/503317554362712064/unknown.png 21:24 <@spookidream> yeah, but for vikeys, you can hold down control and run around speedily 21:24 <@FrightBox> that's an extra keypress 21:24 <@FrightBox> lux is built for speed 21:25 <@boo-tf> hmm 21:25 <@spookidream> numpad I would have to pres 54565859 etc 21:25 <@boo-tf> fair 21:25 <@FrightBox> i play vi and it's shift for whatever reason 21:25 <@FrightBox> never questioned it 21:25 <@boo-tf> why does control number not work is the better question 21:25 <@FrightBox> there's a setting in putty that's nethack specific that enables that 21:25 <@spookidream> uhh, ais523 explained this to me 21:25 <@FrightBox> but i think it messes up the alt-keys 21:26 <@FrightBox> it's under "keyboard" if you're looking to turn it on 21:26 <@boo-tf> I use moba xterm, not putty 21:27 <@FrightBox> ah yeah no dice then 21:27 <@FrightBox> it turned it off anyways myself 21:27 <@boo-tf> hmm 21:27 <@boo-tf> autopickup is not what I expected 21:27 <@spookidream> I forget xD. can't find the conversation either 21:27 <@boo-tf> anybody got a good autopickup config I can use, covering gems and all the stupid stupid 21:28 <@spookidream> steal tones 21:28 <@boo-tf> err wait I don't think it was on 21:28 <@boo-tf> lol 21:28 <@spookidream> I don't bother with that stuff 21:28 <@boo-tf> you don't autopickup luxi? 21:28 <@spookidream> I autopickup basic things 21:28 <@FrightBox> i copied most of my stuff from tone's rc file, his has all kinds of shit 21:28 <@FrightBox> https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/toneLive/nh361/toneLive.nh361rc 21:28 <@spookidream> so $/="! 21:29 ? 21:29 <@spookidream> that too 21:29 pickup_types ftw 21:29 <@FrightBox> probably " too 21:29 [US] toneLive (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:13653 21:30 <@boo-tf> gotcha, thanks 21:31 <@boo-tf> ok shoulkd be good to go now 21:31 <@boo-tf> y ay 21:32 <@FrightBox> boom gotcha set up, like a real hacker now 21:32 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoZgZT4DGSY 21:33 <@boo-tf> why is pickup_types:$%?!"=/ causing me to autopickup slings 21:34 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:36 <@IDF> Autopicking annoys me 21:36 <@IDF> But picking stuff manualy also annoys me 21:36 <@IDF> °_° 21:36 @Frightbox maybe it's only active in your next game 21:36 @Frightbox press '@' twice and it tells you what you are going to pick up 21:37 @IDF pickup_types will be your friend 21:37 <@IDF> Ye I realised that 21:38 <@IDF> But sometimes picking corpses is annoying 21:38 <@IDF> And corpses are % 21:38 <@FrightBox> yeah that's really weird @boo-tf, check it in the actual options cuz it could be a load-time option that gets set 21:38 <@IDF> Also in shops 21:38 you don't want that in your pickup_types :P 21:38 <@IDF> If I want to just look 21:38 <@FrightBox> might have to set it one-time for your current game, or just quit/reload 21:38 oh sorry @frightbox 21:38 <@IDF> I'll automaticaly take the item 21:38 <@boo-tf> hmm 21:38 <@boo-tf> ok 21:38 <@FrightBox> all good, we got it to the right plae stenno 😃 21:38 <@FrightBox> place* 21:38 <@IDF> And i'll have to drop it 21:39 hilighted the rwong person 21:39 <@boo-tf> ok yea that fixed it 21:39 <@boo-tf> thanks 21:40 <@FrightBox> yeah i remember that got me too when i was first setting it up, cuz "autopickup" just literally picks up everything 21:41 [EU] [D]: AlbertB (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1161 points, 2952 turns, killed by a rothe 21:41 it's terrible that autopickup is on by default 21:41 in the default rcfile 21:43 <@IDF> Its annoying when you autopickup chests and statues 21:44 <@IDF> and cockatrice bodies 21:44 and loadstones 21:46 <@jonadab> iunignore 41 21:46 <@jonadab> iunignore 42 21:46 Err, ignore that. 21:49 * stenno\ootc iunignores jonadab 21:49 -!- raisse\splat has joined #tnnt 21:50 I was setting up the JOINS/PARTS/QUITS ignores (which are very important in Discord channels, because otherwise scrollback is >95% those), and made a couple of typos. 22:00 -!- raisse\splat has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:09 [EU] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed Master Kaen, on T:22674 22:09 [EU] Hill (Mon Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22675 22:25 [EU] [D]: AlbertB (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 482 points, 1897 turns, killed by a small mimic 22:33 -!- tacco| has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:34 -!- tacco| has joined #tnnt 22:36 [EU] jt (Kni Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:8824 22:40 [EU] jt (Kni Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a partly eaten lizard corpse on an altar, on T:9174 23:06 [EU] jt (Kni Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a fox, on T:10249 23:09 <@Foorly Cropped Ghost Dog> Who let this bot in here 23:10 beep boop 23:13 bedtime 23:13 gotta get up early tomorrow because of secret tnnt business 23:17 [EU] jt (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:11383 23:27 [EU] jt (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:12326 23:28 [EU] jt (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:12417 23:33 [US] [D]: Karnac (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 813 points, 2120 turns, killed by a rabid rat 23:51 -!- stenno\ootc has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]