00:02 -!- sflichtt has joined #hardfought 00:11 [US] [D]: Kame (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 4451 points, 4512 turns, killed by a bugbear 00:12 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 3684 points, 4614 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 00:14 bouquet you still here? 00:16 the network took, if you're using your ipv6 address, you have to do the dropdown and pick an ipv6 specific function (mtr6, ping6, etc) 00:17 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 44 points, 137 turns, killed by a jackal 00:18 PING 2601:190:4200:e9bb:253f:8429:9fb7:200f(2601:190:4200:e9bb:253f:8429:9fb7:200f) 56 data bytes 00:18 64 bytes from 2601:190:4200:e9bb:253f:8429:9fb7:200f: icmp_seq=1 ttl=37 time=29.0 ms 00:18 64 bytes from 2601:190:4200:e9bb:253f:8429:9fb7:200f: icmp_seq=2 ttl=37 time=32.0 ms 00:18 ^ that 00:19 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 71 points, 198 turns, killed by a jackal (and one other game not reported) 00:21 [US] [D]: Kame (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1292 points, 1740 turns, killed by a dwarf 00:25 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 68 points, 395 turns, killed by overexertion 00:27 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 62 points, 204 turns, killed by a system shock 00:31 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 252 points, 767 turns, killed by a water demon 00:34 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 11946 points, 9098 turns, killed by a long worm (and 70 other games not reported) 00:34 TOURNAMENT MILESTONE: 50 million nethack points scored. 00:35 YANI: When lights explode, they affect all adjacent monsters, not just the thing they explode at. 00:42 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 48 points, 276 turns, killed by a goblin (and one other game not reported) 00:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 2464 points, T:1555, killed by a little dog 00:47 [hdf-us] [nh363] fcloud (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:23126 00:48 [US] [A]: Luxidream (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1008258 points, 49566 turns, ascended (and one other game not reported) https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/tnnt/dumplog/1572806121.tnnt.html 00:51 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 50 points, 380 turns, killed by a jackal (and 6 other games not reported) 00:53 [US] [D]: Bliss56 (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 805600 points, 51489 turns, choked on a rothe corpse 00:53 [R] Clan The Elder Ones advances to rank 6! 00:54 [US] [D]: EndlessMike (Pri-Hum-Fem-Cha), 286 points, 1534 turns, killed by an invisible dwarf lord 00:58 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 254 points, 611 turns, choked on a food ration 01:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Cobisiah (Kni Clk Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3342 01:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Cobisiah (Kni Clk Mal Law), 2672 points, T:3516, killed by a freezing sphere 01:04 [US] [D]: Smugzug (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2417 points, 4938 turns, killed by a human mummy called bouquet 01:05 [US] [D]: hothraxxa (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 3207 points, 4817 turns, killed by a fire ant 01:05 [R] Clan Order of the Chickatrice advances to rank 13! 01:06 [US] [D]: shadowcat (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 14163 points, 5714 turns, killed by an Uruk-hai 01:06 [US] [D]: Entitas (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 62273 points, 16702 turns, killed by a rock troll 01:06 [US] [D]: EndlessMike (Bar-Hum-Fem-Cha), 157 points, 462 turns, killed by a water moccasin 01:10 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 35 points, 122 turns, killed by a sewer rat 01:12 [US] [D]: bouquet (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 775 points, 2148 turns, killed by a rothe 01:14 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 140 points, 368 turns, killed by a black pudding 01:15 [US] [D]: jackofclubs (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 6709 points, 5459 turns, killed by an energy vortex 01:16 <@John Keel> Where are arena inventories drawn from for enemies? 01:16 <@luxidream> the last person to ascend 01:17 <@John Keel> and you only get to pick up one, right? 01:17 as is the name, role, ... 01:18 yes you get 1 item, so choose wisely 01:18 <@John Keel> problem is, I don't have perfect ID 01:19 right 01:19 <@John Keel> looks like the inventory from luxidream https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/tnnt/dumplog/1572806121.tnnt.html 01:19 <@John Keel> I'd really like free action but it's a gamble 01:19 right, and that wishing wand will be gone 01:19 so don't try for that 01:19 <@John Keel> yeah, I have wishing IDed 01:19 <@John Keel> better lucky and OK than unlucky and good 01:20 <@John Keel> I'd take the helm if not for priest quest 01:21 [US] [D]: bouquet (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 504 points, 1831 turns, killed by a gnome 01:25 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 164 points, 745 turns, killed by an exploding large box (and one other game not reported) 01:26 i may put an entry on the wiki about the deathmatch quest 01:26 i doint think many players have fully realized what it is exactly 01:26 [US] [D]: truculent (Ran-Gno-Mal-Neu), 816 points, 2354 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 01:26 still some speculation 01:27 <@John Keel> luckily the AI is dumb 01:27 <@John Keel> zapped lux's death wand at me over and over while I wailed on it with stormbringer 01:27 <@John Keel> didn't do a whole lot vs reflection 01:27 <@John Keel> actual player spells would have made me very sad 01:30 [US] [D]: Entitas (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 3323 points, 3922 turns, killed by a fog cloud 01:30 heh @John Keel 01:30 * K2 starts to import evilhack monster AI to tnnt 01:31 ^ kidding 01:31 <@John Keel> I should hope so 01:31 i may be evil, but not asshole evil 01:31 i reserve that for evilhack :P 01:32 -!- TheGame20_ has joined #hardfought 01:32 how's tnnt going for ya so far @John Keel? 01:33 <@John Keel> well! 01:33 [US] [A]: efot (Arc-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2884604 points, 44041 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/efot/tnnt/dumplog/1572673353.tnnt.html 01:33 <@John Keel> lucky wand of wishing right before minetown 01:33 awesome 01:33 should implement fiqhack's ai 01:33 <@John Keel> mostly kitted out already doing the priest quest, then I'm about to do medusa in the main dungeon 01:34 for arena battles 01:34 ;) 01:34 [R] Clan The Strong and the Bad advances to rank 7! 01:34 FIQ feel free to submit a pull request for tnnt :P 01:34 I don't think you would approve of me porting FIQHack's monster AI to arena battles 01:35 honestly i'd love to see player monsters fight and behave more intelligently 01:35 you know the kind of shit it does, right? 01:35 but not sure how well that'd go over 01:35 yeah 01:35 fiqhack was infamous for how monsters used to behave once they found a CM wand 01:35 to the point where I had to nerf that item several times 01:35 we'd have to implement so much other stuff it wouldnt be vanilla nethack with achievements anymore 01:36 ^ and thats the whole point 01:36 allthough it'd be kinda fun to see them maintaining conducts the players ascended with 01:37 [US] [D]: bouquet (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 3771 points, 3198 turns, killed by a tengu 01:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3252 01:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 787 points, T:1408, killed by a jackal 01:51 [US] [D]: Tmasher (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 558 points, 1716 turns, killed by a newt, while frozen by a monster's gaze 01:54 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 570 points, T:1152, killed by a bat 01:54 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 207 points, 653 turns, killed by a black pudding 01:56 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 80 points, 267 turns, killed by a black pudding 01:57 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 31 points, 157 turns, killed by an incubus 01:58 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 02:00 -!- Kontroller has joined #hardfought 02:01 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 838 points, T:1735, killed by a dwarf lord 02:02 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 257 points, T:248, killed by a jackal 02:03 [US] [D]: jackofclubs (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1413 points, 3294 turns, killed by a werejackal, while praying 02:05 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Val Ang Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:28057 02:09 [US] [D]: jackofclubs (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 61 points, 387 turns, killed by a fox 02:11 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Val Ang Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:28375 02:14 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 824 points, T:1263, killed by a giant ant 02:14 [US] [D]: bouquet (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 258 points, 906 turns, killed by Ms. Upernavik; the shopkeeper 02:15 !lastgame bouquet 02:15 bouquet: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/unnethack/dumplog/1570504643.un.txt.html 02:15 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 5486 points, 4876 turns, killed by a black unicorn, while sleeping off a magical draught 02:16 can Croesus give us lastgame? 02:17 $lastgame bouquet 02:17 aosdict: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/tnnt/dumplog/1572831822.tnnt.html 02:17 we trigger him with dollar signs :D 02:18 [US] [D]: EndlessMike (Pri-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1113 points, 2462 turns, killed by a pony, while praying 02:21 <{Demo}> haha he wants $$$ 02:26 bouquet: Nice pile, if it weren't inside a shop. ;) 02:26 When you gotta go, you gotta go... 02:27 A stamped scroll as well. 7 zorkmids. :D 02:27 mail fraud ain't free 02:28 This seems to be junk mail addressed to the finder of the Eye of Larn. 02:29 good ol' boulder-on-the-upstairs to block Vlad - gotta luv it ^^ 02:29 !who 02:29 dragonspeaker [dnh] Ardub [spl] 02:29 eraserhead97: [hdf-us] tsingi [tnnt] WizardOfPoland [tnnt] jackofclubs [tnnt] jmcunx [tnnt] bouquet [tnnt] k2 [tnnt] ShivanHunter [tnnt] karibou [tnnt] jonathanhanes [tnnt] eraserhead97 [tnnt] thegame [tnnt] eitwinston [tnnt] Dulce [tnnt] Bliss56 [tnnt] BEHiker91W [tnnt] sflicht [tnnt] luxor 02:29 [slshm] | [hdf-eu] Muad [tnnt] Kontroller [tnnt] noims [tnnt] | [hdf-au] Grasshopper [tnnt] 02:33 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 191 points, 834 turns, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph (and one other game not reported) 02:35 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 27 points, 132 turns, killed by a sewer rat 02:36 well, this is nice - I fall into a pit with a rubber chicken on the floor and I don't get petrified ^^ 02:36 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 1096 points, 1536 turns, killed by a dwarf king, while sleeping 02:37 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1319 points, 2370 turns, killed by a dog, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:39 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Pri-Hum-Fem-Law), 745 points, 1356 turns, killed by a gnome (and one other game not reported) 02:41 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 223 points, 656 turns, killed by a gecko 02:42 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 508 points, 2174 turns, killed by a hobbit 02:47 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 02:48 [US] [Q]: Luxidream (Pri-Hum-Fem-Law), 3674 points, 3192 turns, quit 02:50 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Val Ang Fem Law) genocided class R, on T:30309 02:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was given Magicbane, on T:3552 02:51 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Val Ang Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:30310 02:51 [EU] [A]: noims (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Cha), 909350 points, 28149 turns, ascended 02:51 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/noims/tnnt/dumplog/1572740596.tnnt.html 02:52 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 02:57 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 2615 points, 3754 turns, killed by a giant beetle 02:59 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 1002 points, 2487 turns, killed by a gnomish wizard 03:05 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 1120 points, 2482 turns, poisoned by a killer bee 03:05 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 105 points, 328 turns, killed by a fox, while reading a book 03:06 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Cha), 57 points, 220 turns, killed by a goblin (and one other game not reported) 03:07 [US] [D]: EndlessMike (Arc-Hum-Mal-Neu), 567 points, 967 turns, killed by a kitten 03:12 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Pri-Hum-Fem-Law), 1316 points, 1891 turns, killed by a wand (and 9 other games not reported) 03:13 !lastgame luxidream 03:13 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1572502369.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/slex/dumplog/1544654684.slex.txt 03:14 $lastgame luxidream 03:14 bug_sniper: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/tnnt/dumplog/1572837200.tnnt.html 03:14 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 03:16 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 396 points, 1521 turns, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze (and 7 other games not reported) 03:29 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 03:34 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:6836 03:35 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 663 points, 2288 turns, killed by a hill orc 03:37 [US] [D]: efot (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 508 points, 1237 turns, killed by a bat 03:40 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1657 points, 2432 turns, killed by a gold golem 03:49 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 03:49 [US] [D]: Smugzug (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 2658 points, 5543 turns, killed by a wolf 03:56 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1438 points, 2392 turns, killed by an Aleax of Tyr 03:59 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 03:59 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 203 points, 543 turns, killed by a gnome lord 04:00 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 6902 points, 7908 turns, killed by an elven arrow 04:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:8452 04:13 [US] [D]: bouquet (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 7849 points, 11083 turns, killed by a wraith 04:14 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 12638 points, 9165 turns, killed by a leocrotta (and 7 other games not reported) 04:21 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 347 points, 559 turns, killed by a giant rat (and 91 other games not reported) 04:27 [US] [D]: truculent (Hea-Hum-Fem-Neu), 350 points, 3522 turns, killed by a gnome 04:27 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 04:27 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 04:44 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 04:44 [US] [D]: tsingi (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 68285 points, 17102 turns, killed by a death ray 04:45 [R] Clan Team Ant advances to rank 9! 04:47 [US] [D]: jonathanhanes (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 27 points, 164 turns, killed by a jackal, while praying (and one other game not reported) 04:51 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 303 points, T:428, killed by a gnome lord 04:53 -!- jessek has joined #hardfought 04:59 -!- dbanethacker has joined #hardfought 05:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1462 points, T:1472, killed by a gold golem 05:07 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Val Ang Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed Magic Mirror of Merlin", on T:33307 05:08 [hdf-us] [spl] Ardub (Val Ang Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:33308 05:16 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 05:17 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2215 points, 2659 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt (and 55 other games not reported) 05:17 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:18 [US] [A]: eraserhead97 (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1511498 points, 32285 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/eraserhead97/tnnt/dumplog/1572761418.tnnt.html 05:19 [Tr] eraserhead97 now has Both Genders! 05:19 [R] Clan Teenage NetHack Ninja Turtles advances to rank 3! 05:20 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 33 points, 164 turns, killed by a jackal (and 54 other games not reported) 05:21 <@ShivanHunter> lmao a sewer rat killed my kitten and grew up into a giant rat 05:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] Karnac (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 668 points, T:1435, killed by a rothe 05:32 <@ShivanHunter> "You put 22 rocks into the bag. Your movements are now unencumbered." :D 05:33 \o/ 05:33 Plot twist: you cheated and the bag was on the floor 05:33 <@ShivanHunter> lol 05:34 <@ShivanHunter> also literally 2 luckstones, one in a shop, one just lying on the floor 05:34 [US] [D]: truculent (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 439 points, 2153 turns, killed by a gnome zombie 05:34 <@ShivanHunter> by Dlvl 4 05:34 [US] [D]: karibou (Rog-Hum-Fem-Cha), 2050 points, 3341 turns, killed by a soldier ant 05:36 well, I just reached Minetown and I already have 2 gray stones called safe. 05:36 Oh, it's Orcish Town. 05:39 <@ShivanHunter> D: 05:42 The dagger hits it. You hear a mumbled curse. 05:42 'Darn it! The wand of make invisible in a long 1-wide corridor didn't work!' 05:42 In other news, I'm now invisible. 05:43 <@ShivanHunter> lmaoooo I just found a second BoH 05:44 Gimme 05:44 <@ShivanHunter> hmmmm, I could put it in the swap chest when I get there... I'll probably die first tho lol 05:46 More red 5o orcs. 05:49 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1925 points, 3470 turns, killed by a lynx (and 55 other games not reported) 05:50 [US] [A]: Luxidream (Bar-Hum-Fem-Cha), 1029324 points, 39175 turns, ascended (and 3 other games not reported) https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/tnnt/dumplog/1572837415.tnnt.html 05:54 yasi: if you break or cancel a wand of wish, it should count as one genie kill per charge 05:58 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 884 points, 1421 turns, killed by a bugbear, while frozen by a monster's gaze (and 27 other games not reported) 06:00 Current Day as of 2019-11-04 06:00 UTC: Games: 481, Asc: 5, Scum: 398. 445878 turns, 8404307 points. 4d 17:38 gametime. (29%Tou), (67%Hum), (43%Neu), (72%Fem), 26d 17:59 remaining. 06:00 [US] [D]: MHL (Rog-Orc-Mal-Cha), 677 points, 2048 turns, killed by a magic missile 06:00 -!- dbanethacker has joined #hardfought 06:06 Hey - I think I'm in the coding room section as I'm talking to developers about returning a scroll of missing code. 06:06 dbanethacker: Message from K2 at 2019-11-03 10:59 EST: good catch with the wet towel thing 06:06 Aw, shucks - I was glad to spot it. 06:07 So I'm reading some graffiti? on the floor and it says "Beware - PEBCAK disposal area". It should be spelled PEBKAC in future versions if possible. 06:08 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1531 points, 3628 turns, killed by a rothe 06:08 I guess they're both the same thing, but we always started with the keyboard and ended with the chair. They have it the other way around. 06:09 [US] [D]: MHL (Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha), 1091 points, 2237 turns, killed by a rock piercer 06:09 Just my $0.02 - grin! 06:10 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 7341 points, 6499 turns, killed by a vampire lord (and one other game not reported) 06:12 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 25 points, 304 turns, killed by a sewer rat 06:15 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 373 points, 1946 turns, killed by a little dog 06:22 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 543 points, 1316 turns, killed by a small mimic 06:22 Hey K2 - Paxed says he has your ten bucks ! (grin!) 06:23 he just needs to come and collect 06:24 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 145 points, 367 turns, killed by a scroll of earth, while helpless 06:28 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 06:28 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 06:32 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 827 points, 2880 turns, killed by a scroll of earth 06:35 LOL 06:38 why is tnnt only on hardfought and not also on nao? 06:40 [US] [D]: eraserhead97 (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 4678 points, 3504 turns, killed by an owlbear 06:41 [hdf-eu] [nh363] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:1616 06:42 nevermind, it's there too 06:47 the next question is: why does my irc client highlight #nethack and #tnnt when I die, but not #hardfought? (even when I'm currently on a completely different channel) 06:49 Every time I get kicked out from freenode when I come back I choose either #tnnt or #hardfought. But when I go into the room it's empty, so I have to choose the other room. Then that one has all of us in it. Go figure. 06:50 Right now it says we're all in #hardfought. But there are times when I choose #hardfought and then we're all in #tnnt. It's as buggy as version 1.0 of Hack !!! 06:51 [US] [D]: dingotron (Kni-Hum-Mal-Law), 298 points, 1124 turns, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 06:56 no, we're all in #hardfought and some of us are also in #tnnt 06:56 but hexchat is buggy too 06:57 I went there and back here, and it indicated the wrong people as ops and voiced 06:59 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 874 points, 1044 turns, killed by an iguana (and 24 other games not reported) 07:01 Ok, thanks bug_sniper, I'll just join #hardfought from now on. 07:01 Time to go to bed - I guess the time really changed. Good luck to all ! 07:06 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 4705 points, 5680 turns, killed by an elven arrow 07:11 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 241 points, 357 turns, killed by a gnome lord, while sleeping (and 68 other games not reported) 07:13 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3465 points, 3788 turns, killed by an orcish arrow 07:20 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 490 points, 1236 turns, killed by a little dog 07:25 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 338 points, 1061 turns, killed by a large kobold 07:33 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 07:35 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:35 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 07:43 [US] [Q]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2682 points, 2828 turns, quit (and 8 other games not reported) 07:46 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 68 points, 248 turns, killed by touching Sunsword (and 21 other games not reported) 07:46 [US] [A]: thegame (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3059564 points, 105000 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/t/thegame/tnnt/dumplog/1572605987.tnnt.html 07:49 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3459 points, 3464 turns, killed by a mumak 07:52 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 224 points, 1232 turns, killed by a goblin (and 6 other games not reported) 07:59 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 728 points, 1651 turns, killed by a little dog 08:00 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 15 points, 133 turns, killed by a kobold zombie 08:02 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1274 points, 2213 turns, killed by an orcish arrow (and 19 other games not reported) 08:11 [AU] [D]: ScienceBall (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 204 points, 1363 turns, killed by a system shock 08:13 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 647 points, 2129 turns, killed by a rothe 08:14 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 52 points, 247 turns, killed by a jackal 08:20 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 501 points, 2057 turns, killed by an anti-magic implosion (and 61 other games not reported) 08:27 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 381 points, 940 turns, killed by a fox 08:27 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Pri-Hum-Fem-Law), 38830 points, 23468 turns, killed by a forest centaur, while frozen by a potion 08:29 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 08:31 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 4004 points, 6242 turns, killed by a human mummy 08:33 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 492 points, 2298 turns, killed by a manes, while frozen by a monster's gaze (and one other game not reported) 08:35 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 532 points, 1157 turns, killed by a dart (and 10 other games not reported) 08:36 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 260 points, 858 turns, killed by a water moccasin 08:37 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 08:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris__ANG] by ChanServ 08:40 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Ran-Orc-Fem-Cha), 757 points, 1566 turns, killed by an imp (and one other game not reported) 08:42 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Ran-Orc-Fem-Cha), 497 points, 864 turns, killed by a dwarf 08:42 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 784 points, 877 turns, killed by a gnome (and 63 other games not reported) 08:45 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 08:50 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 587 points, 1218 turns, killed by a rothe (and 50 other games not reported) 08:56 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 93 points, 209 turns, killed by a sewer rat (and 36 other games not reported) 08:58 Mandevil: the scoreboard doesn't yet link to the HTML dumplogs on hdf for those that support it 08:58 Which one? TNNT scoreboard or NHS? 08:59 NHS 08:59 didn't check TNNT 09:00 Yeah, there's a little problem with it. 09:01 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 269 points, 1150 turns, killed by a gnome (and 6 other games not reported) 09:01 [US] [Q]: Luxidream (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 9908 points, 6168 turns, quit (and one other game not reported) 09:01 I was looking at what fonts to use for html dumps to properly align up on all devices and then I was looking at what the 3.6 derivatives use in the CSS 09:03 'monospace' not enough? 09:03 no. 09:04 on iOS, there was a strange effect that empty spaces didn't have the same width as everything else. that's why unnethack outputs   for them. 09:04 but that seems to be better now. 09:04 but if you look at https://bhaak.net/nethack/unnethack.html 09:04 and set the font-family to different fonts, you see that some align and some don't. 09:05 bhaak: Did you try to use non-breaking space (U+00A0) 09:05 ? 09:05 yes. that's   :-) 09:05 I mean you don't need to use actual HTML entity. 09:05 Saves few bytes. 09:06 yes but I like to have it explicit. 09:07 On my Linux that page shows correctly. 09:07 No alignment problems at all. 09:07 because you use Dejavu Sans Mono :-) 09:07 The best font. 09:07 Why would anyone use anything else ;-) 09:08 on OSX, the default monospace on Chrome takes the Omega from a different font than the rest, and thus alignment problems 09:08 In IE11 on Win10 all is fine too 09:08 Haha. 09:08 Menlo does work though, and Courier New 09:08 Apple sucks, what else do you need to know? 09:08 mom, try again 09:09 Or you think that taking omega from another font is a good solution? 09:09 For the default monospace font? 09:09 what should it do if that glyph isn't in the default font? :) 09:09 The default font should perhaps be sufficiently all-encompassing. 09:10 Greek alphabet is something that's used a lot in many different contexts. 09:10 it's a bit strange that it takes Monaco when there is much better fonts available like Menlo, etc. 09:11 but on Android that didn't work as well, problem is, this is much more hard to debug there :-) 09:11 [US] [A]: kcostell (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1854938 points, 34596 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/kcostell/tnnt/dumplog/1572624637.tnnt.html 09:11 Why don't you just use a chain of fallbacks? 09:12 I do now. but I first had to find out which one work :-) 09:12 font-family: "Menlo", "DejaVu Sans Mono", "Courier", monospace;? 09:12 Courier is not good, at least on OSX. it needs to be "Courier New" 09:12 Alternatively... output pure ascii dumps. 09:12 OK, I meant Courier New. 09:12 pfff, there's the txt dump for that 09:13 then I also wondered why I didn't see a problem with the hdf dumps I looked at just this morning. they were fine. but yesterday I saw some dumps that weren't fine on iOS and Android. 09:14 http://api.browsershots.org/png/original/93/93d140ca8e339a8ca10d7bbd778b57d6.png 09:14 this is what it looks like with just "monospace" 09:14 That's not pretty even if it aligned well. 09:15 HTML dumps are a nuisance :) 09:16 the not connecting lines is a problem that many fonts have. but the simple workaround is setting lineheight. but that's not needed with the right fonts 09:16 Read: with properly designed fonts. 09:17 The pseudographics drawing lines are supposed to cleanly connect. 09:18 yeah, but if you design a monospace font with a typewriter look in mind, I'm not sure if that was possible with physical typewriters 09:18 Hm. 09:18 You mean it's by design? 09:19 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 09:19 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 09:19 Well, typewriters didn't have these lines to begin with. 09:19 At most you used - and | 09:21 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 09:21 I wouldn't be so sure. 09:21 you had exchangeable typewriter thingies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Selectric_typewriter#/media/File:IBM_Selectric_typeball.jpg 09:22 Well, this is not what Courier is imitating. 09:22 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 3319 points, 5221 turns, killed by a white unicorn 09:25 who knows? I'm not sure when the line drawing characters first appeared on what devices. at least in the 70s they were already quite ubiquitous on any terminals. but I don't know if there were any predecessors to that. 09:29 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought 09:32 The section about using Selectric typewriters are computer terminals is very interesting. 09:32 s/are/as/ 09:35 the very first computers didn't have displays. the printed on a teletype or a bit later on electrical typewriters. 09:35 I am aware of that. 09:36 this was the most surprising thing when I read the ASCII specifications. that they even in the 1960s still considered teletypes as important enough to influence the design of the universal character set. 09:37 That's where that 'tty' devices in Unix is from. 09:37 yes 09:38 I believe actual teletypes continued to be used into 80s? 09:39 likely but the question is how widespread the use was. 09:39 -!- BEHiker92W has joined #hardfought 09:39 you can still find fax machines in offices nowadays :-) 09:41 hmm, now I try to remember if there were real teletypes in the original Tron movie or if the displays only mimicked the tty output patterns. 09:44 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4040 points, 3734 turns, killed by an arrow (and 16 other games not reported) 09:46 [US] [D]: fionna (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 9544 points, 4938 turns, killed by a giant mimic 09:57 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1669 points, 3454 turns, killed by a rabid rat 10:14 [US] [D]: kitty (Sam-Hum-Fem-Law), 777 points, 1730 turns, killed by an acidic corpse 10:24 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 2231 points, 2195 turns, killed by a bear trap (and 27 other games not reported) 10:24 oink 10:25 -!- Porkman has joined #hardfought 10:25 ooooink 10:30 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 10:32 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 629 points, 806 turns, killed by a manes (and 65 other games not reported) 10:37 [EU] [D]: niddler (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 96 points, 855 turns, poisoned by a rotted jackal corpse 10:40 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 428 points, 3274 turns, killed by a water moccasin, while fainted from lack of food 10:42 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 120 points, 534 turns, killed by a goblin 10:45 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 10:52 [EU] [D]: niddler (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 285 points, 1331 turns, killed by a small mimic, while helpless 10:54 -!- ais523_ has joined #hardfought 11:09 [EU] [A]: elenmirie (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1632462 points, 35593 turns, ascended 11:09 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/tnnt/dumplog/1572763110.tnnt.html 11:09 [R] Clan teamsplat advances to rank 3! 11:20 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 11:30 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 11:36 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 3275 points, 3124 turns, killed by a giant bat (and 25 other games not reported) 11:41 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 1592 points, 2560 turns, killed by a fire ant 11:56 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 36967 points, 17796 turns, killed by a blue jelly 12:00 Current Day as of 2019-11-04 12:00 UTC: Games: 1246, Asc: 8, Scum: 1095. 778398 turns, 15111916 points. 8d 00:48 gametime. (47%Wiz), (52%Hum), (43%Neu), (56%Fem), 26d 11:59 remaining. 12:02 [EU] [D]: saso (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 357 points, 2236 turns, killed by a sewer rat, while fainted from lack of food (and one other game not reported) 12:04 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 894 points, 2886 turns, killed by a kobold lord 12:06 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1408 points, 2715 turns, killed by a killer bee (and one other game not reported) 12:08 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 678 points, 1721 turns, killed by a red naga hatchling (and 93 other games not reported) 12:14 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 708 points, 1042 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt (and 36 other games not reported) 12:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 734 points, T:2562, killed by a giant ant 12:19 you should at least give a message when grease wears off a BOH 12:20 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 397 points, 2401 turns, killed by a hobgoblin 12:21 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 12:22 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 678 points, T:2289, killed by a fox 12:22 [US] [D]: ShivanHunter (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 111 points, 153 turns, killed by a fox (and 4 other games not reported) 12:23 [US] [D]: engelson (Bar-Hum-Fem-Cha), 4552 points, 5492 turns, killed by a fire ant 12:23 [R] Clan Smile Mold advances to rank 16! 12:28 [US] [D]: porkman (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 1260140 points, 39011 turns, poisoned by Pestilence (with the Amulet) (and 4 other games not reported) 12:32 does kicking cockatrice corpse petrify you if not wearing boots 12:36 <@ShivanHunter> yes 12:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4074 12:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 10633 points, T:4418, killed by a gnome 12:44 [EU] [D]: elenmirie (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 1871 points, 4118 turns, killed by a gold golem 12:53 [hdf-eu] [nh363] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:3968 12:55 [US] [D]: engelson (Arc-Hum-Fem-Neu), 203 points, 754 turns, killed by a large kobold 13:00 [US] [D]: Noah (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 545 points, 1923 turns, killed by a gnome lord 13:01 [hdf-eu] [nh363] rsa (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5563 13:03 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 13:03 [hdf-eu] [nh363] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:6502 13:06 -!- bubbles_nhww has joined #hardfought 13:06 o/ 13:07 [US] [D]: Smugzug (Ran-Orc-Mal-Cha), 780 points, 3154 turns, killed by a rock mole 13:10 👋🏻 13:10 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 1625 points, 3666 turns, killed by a blue jelly 13:10 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 270 points, T:1263, killed by a carnivorous bag 13:10 megaidiot 13:11 [US] [D]: tsingi (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 17 points, 202 turns, killed by a sewer rat 13:12 [EU] [D]: Dins (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 2206 points, 3107 turns, killed by a kobold lord, while sleeping 13:12 [US] [D]: Noah (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 394 points, 1798 turns, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 13:15 -!- bouquet has joined #hardfought 13:23 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 3188 points, 6438 turns, killed by a black unicorn 13:24 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 46 points, 147 turns, killed by a falling object 13:24 [US] [D]: engelson (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 987 points, 673 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 13:24 TOURNAMENT MILESTONE: Five million turns played. 13:32 oh, that's a metric I have to steal 13:34 bhaak: there are also ones for number of games, etc 13:35 (insert ShivanHunter noting that most of those games are him startscumming) 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2752 points, T:3553, killed by a giant mosquito 13:39 total nethack points scored also 13:39 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3055 13:39 * K2 slips in 'TOURNAMENT MILESTONE: DIRGE o/' while no one is looking 13:40 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 13:40 lol 13:41 but points are even more useless than turns :) 13:43 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 13:45 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 561 points, 2568 turns, killed by a small mimic 13:45 @ShivanHunter: i'm /still/ not seeing your bug report. the bug you mentioned here and went "lol" at. 13:47 bhaak: not for TNNT 13:47 plus it falls under 'fun facts' 13:50 hey @ShivanHunter 13:54 -!- JonathanHanes has joined #hardfought 13:54 Hey paxed 13:55 shivanhunter is hiding now 13:55 bubbles_nhww: nope. he didn't even bug me. 13:56 I wonder if the bug I submitted 10 years ago got fixed 13:56 Fuck, 13 years. 13:57 [US] [D]: gnoll1gog (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 8827 points, 6278 turns, killed by a death ray 13:57 bubbles_nhww: I submitted a bug yesterday and it already got fixed 13:58 (they did not take my suggestion that a deaf hero should be unable to play music though) 13:58 aosdict I even submitted a patch to fix it 13:58 Deaf people can play music! 13:58 [US] [D]: gnoll1gog (Cav-Hum-Mal-Neu), 52 points, 152 turns, killed by a goblin 13:58 beethoven was deaf 13:59 -!- truculent has joined #hardfought 13:59 IRL yes, but IMO deafness needs more side effects. Currently it really only changes messages and prevents you from hearing what sort of special room is on the level. 13:59 oh i see the fixes now, i didnt last night 14:00 easy to fix. just add the scream attack of Nazguls 14:00 \o/ 14:00 EPI: deafness affects your inner ear and causes you to be fumbling randomly while it persists 14:00 I can't find my bug report 14:01 It was when you stood on a ?ofScareMonster (or elbereth) and a monster moves onto a hidden trap next to you and dies 14:01 The messages went out of order "the blah dies. the blah turns to flee!" 14:01 [EU] [D]: niddler (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 927 points, 3181 turns, killed by the wrath of Tyr 14:02 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 789 points, 1555 turns, killed by a wererat, while sleeping 14:03 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 119 points, 628 turns, killed by a jackal 14:10 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 883 points, 1058 turns, killed by a gnome lord 14:11 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 709 points, 1971 turns, fell into a pit 14:12 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 14:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3740 14:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2156 points, T:3943, killed by Izchak; the shopkeeper, while sleeping 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Pri Hum Mal Law), 891 points, T:2847, killed by a sewer rat 14:28 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 657 points, 1633 turns, killed by an air elemental of Thoth, while praying 14:29 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:1260 14:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 53223 points, T:12030, killed by an Uruk-hai 14:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 248 points, T:395, killed by a sewer rat 14:49 paxed: in a recent commit, you added if (!leashable(mtmp)) m_unleash(mtmp, TRUE) inside newcham -- this doesn't check mtmp->mleashed so it produces a "Your leash falls slack" message every time a shapeshifter changes into anything nonleashable (I think) 14:49 shame up! 14:49 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 0 points, T:32, killed by a fox 14:49 megashame :-\ 14:50 generalize that to any time any monster changes form 14:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 258 points, T:557, killed by a grid bug 14:51 what is wrong with me today 14:54 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 408 points, 2046 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 14:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 863 points, T:1271, killed by a parrot 14:58 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1307 points, 4558 turns, killed by a minotaur 14:59 $lastgame bouquet 14:59 bouquet: [US] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/tnnt/dumplog/1572833790.tnnt.html 14:59 !lastgame K2 14:59 NHrsa_: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/nethack/dumplog/1570859200.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1571098974.evil.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/k/k2/evilhack/dumplog/1571098911.evil.html 15:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 1654 points, T:1199, killed by a dwarf 15:04 [US] [D]: Bartlem (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 271 points, 1418 turns, killed by a jackal (and one other game not reported) 15:04 [US] [D]: porkman (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 120 points, 322 turns, killed by a kitten 15:06 -!- Entitas has joined #hardfought 15:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 662 points, T:1937, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 15:07 I ended up generating my quest level without realizing something was going on. Now I just have a maze and no quest leader. Game unwinnable now? 15:08 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 7984 points, 6109 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 15:09 Entitas: If it won't let you access the lower Quest levels, then yeah, no way to get the Bell. 15:10 Welp. 15:10 Entitas: K2 updated the game without checking to see if anyone was online. 15:10 (It's TNNT; of course players are online.) 15:10 <@luxidream> then he should get a recover, right? 15:11 I dunno, probably? Depends on when the last recover ws. 15:11 was 15:11 [US] [D]: EndlessMike (Pri-Elf-Mal-Cha), 682 points, 2025 turns, killed by a coyote 15:11 He just left for a couple hours. 15:11 it happened to me too but fortunately it only affected juiblex and I can live without that level 15:12 "Can live without", heh. 15:12 But then how will you get the Wizard to spawn on Juiblex' level eight times during the ascension run, with the MF sending you back down below it every time? 15:12 <@luxidream> Did you count? 15:13 [US] [D]: truculent (Cav-Gno-Mal-Neu), 13006 points, 9318 turns, killed by a leocrotta 15:14 <@Tone> lol jonadab 15:14 <@Tone> Poor Anerag 15:15 <@Tone> Am I safe to continue my game right now or is there something going on? 15:15 If you saved and restored, yes. 15:16 <@Tone> Cool, thanks 15:16 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 1257 points, 2136 turns, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 15:20 [US] [D]: Entitas (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 49572 points, 11061 turns, choked on a food ration 15:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11155 15:20 I really should pay more attention to pestilence 15:23 [US] [D]: porkman (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1414 points, 1911 turns, killed by a dwarf king 15:25 [US] [D]: porkman (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 52 points, 213 turns, killed by a fox 15:29 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 15:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2217 points, T:3935, killed by a gnome mummy 15:30 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 323 points, 1455 turns, killed by a bear trap 15:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:11517 15:33 [US] [D]: tsingi (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 4001 points, 6836 turns, killed by a killer bee 15:34 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:35 [US] [D]: LoneWolf (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 9805 points, 6837 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 15:35 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1952 points, 3293 turns, killed by an Elvenking 15:43 [US] [D]: LoneWolf (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 822 points, 453 turns, killed by a sewer rat 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh363] hackedhead (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 465 points, T:1605, killed by an orc zombie 15:46 [US] [D]: Entitas (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 5090 points, 4458 turns, killed by a warg, while praying 15:46 [US] [D]: LoneWolf (Wiz-Gno-Mal-Neu), 55 points, 151 turns, killed by a fox 15:49 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:55 -!- BEHiker91W has joined #hardfought 15:56 [US] [D]: zoya (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 439 points, 1657 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 15:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 2226 points, T:2922, killed by a dwarf 15:56 nooooo 15:56 what is WRONG with I am going to actually cry 15:56 guh 15:59 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1928 points, 2203 turns, killed by a water moccasin 16:01 * Andrio hugs bubbles_nhww's ghost. 16:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 1063 points, T:1634, killed by a gnome 16:02 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2427 points, 3824 turns, killed by a yeti, while praying 16:02 \o/ 16:02 synchrodeath 16:02 This is kinda hard because of being slow 16:02 2 seconds apart 16:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Elf-Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:13944 16:03 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 16:04 [US] [D]: Lettuce (Arc-Hum-Fem-Neu), 592 points, 1846 turns, killed by a wand 16:07 <@luxidream> $who 16:07 @luxidream: [EU] elenmirie AlbertB Dins voffer Raisse spontiff swegen | [US] porkman Entitas towardsdawn Noah hothraxxa malor richards LoneWolf Ashpool Merlek Bliss56 aosdict | [AU] Grasshopper Andrio DarkLightDragon 16:11 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 264 points, 1564 turns, killed by Ms. Manlobbi; the shopkeeper 16:13 [US] [D]: porkman (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 7967 points, 5262 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt (and 2 other games not reported) 16:17 [AU] [D]: Andrio (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Neu), 343 points, 779 turns, killed by a dwarf 16:17 [US] [D]: Lettuce (Arc-Hum-Fem-Neu), 345 points, 2070 turns, killed by a giant bat 16:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 135918 points, T:14744, killed by a mirkwood elder 16:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3154 16:23 hmm 16:23 bones minetown 16:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Con Inc Fem Cha), 157 points, T:702, killed by a fox, while dragging an iron ball 16:23 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 16:23 -!- eLtMosen has joined #hardfought 16:26 lol 16:27 [EU] [D]: Muad (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 160074 points, 20602 turns, killed by Thoth Amon 16:27 TOURNAMENT MILESTONE: 50 days spent playning nethack. 16:27 playning? 16:27 K2: pfft 16:27 [US] [D]: porkman (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1148 points, 1302 turns, killed by Izchak; the shopkeeper (and 3 other games not reported) 16:28 -!- moony has joined #hardfought 16:28 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 16:28 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v FIQ] by ChanServ 16:29 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 714 points, 2413 turns, killed by a little dog 16:29 hi 16:29 Hello FIQ, Welcome to #hardfought 16:30 -!- moon-child has joined #hardfought 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10526 16:32 did someoen take the SDSM i put in the chest? 16:32 -!- moon-child has joined #hardfought 16:33 [EU] [D]: joes (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 4812 points, 12317 turns, killed by a soldier ant 16:35 [US] [D]: porkman (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 390 points, 381 turns, killed by a hill orc (and 18 other games not reported) 16:37 so what do those 2 commands do? 16:37 $who 16:37 bug_sniper: [EU] ToneHack swegen | [US] Entitas Noah porkman malor richards hothraxxa karibou LoneWolf Ashpool klintos Merlek Bliss56 aosdict | [AU] Andrio DarkLightDragon 16:38 !who 16:38 bug_sniper: [hdf-us] RyanHill [nh363] samiam [nh363] Entitas [tnnt] Noah [tnnt] porkman [tnnt] malor [tnnt] richards [tnnt] hothraxxa [tnnt] karibou [tnnt] LoneWolf [tnnt] Ashpool [tnnt] klintos [tnnt] Merlek [tnnt] Bliss56 [tnnt] aosdict [tnnt] dragonspeaker [dnh] | [hdf-eu] ToneHack 16:38 [tnnt] swegen [tnnt] bubbles [dnh] | [hdf-au] Andrio [tnnt] DarkLightDragon [tnnt] 16:38 who needs $who when you can just !who? 16:41 oh for fucks sake 16:41 dig...fall into a massive food shop... cat starts eating all the tripe 16:43 pet shop keepers hate him! this one trick will save you thousands on pet food 16:43 well, you kinda need to give it to him to increase apport 16:43 anyone else seen a "Your leash falls slack" message, even though you have no leash? 16:49 [US] [D]: truculent (Cav-Dwa-Fem-Law), 1312 points, 2933 turns, killed by a killer bee 16:51 <@Tone> Interesting. If you run out of inventory space while picking up multiple items, it will stop picking up items; even if other items would have stacked with others in your inventory. 16:52 !tell Chris_ANG There is a lichen corpse here, but you cannot lift any more. (I'm not encumbered) 16:52 Will do, bubbles_nhww! 16:52 klintos I think aosdict mentioned something leash-relevant 16:52 [US] [D]: Ziberian (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 187 points, 615 turns, killed by a hobbit 16:53 klintos: recent bug introduced by paxed, I messaged him about it in this channel and I guess if that isn't enough I'll send a formal bug report 16:53 klintos: For now it just means a monster turned into something that can't be leashed. 16:54 bug_sniper: In #tnnt, you can't do !who because Beholder isn't there. 16:54 [EU] [D]: FIQ (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 24 points, 397 turns, killed by a goblin 16:55 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:58 it sounds harmless enough 16:59 yes just a messaging bug it seems to be 16:59 aosdict: fixed 16:59 :O 16:59 and now we wait 4 hours for it to propagate to github :) 17:00 and then K2 wrecks everyone's special levels again by applying the fix 17:00 aosdict: and when did you message me about it? 17:01 ah, i see 17:01 about two hours ago 17:02 heh no that fix wont mess with special levels 17:02 if you rebuild and reinstall and overwrite the .lev files, I think it will still have the same effect as earlier 17:03 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 17:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 17:03 [US] [D]: porkman (Wiz-Hum-Mal-Cha), 960 points, 2453 turns, killed by a killer bee (and 16 other games not reported) 17:03 none of my or the devteam's commits compiled into today's build did anything with special levs 17:03 when updating the game, if its just a src file being updated (not counting objects or monst) this wont be a problem 17:03 anytime there's an include file change, i make spotless before compiling 17:04 otherwise you can have even more weird issues 17:04 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 17:06 when a (nh3) variant author commits even a small bugfix, don't you usually make sure no one is playing that variant while you apply the fix, and kick them off if they're unresponsive? 17:07 [Tr] Entitas now has Lesser Valkyrie! 17:07 -!- tolkien.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ TNNT 2019 has begun! Good luck and have fun all! 17:07 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Croesus] by ChanServ 17:08 [EU] [D]: niddler (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 174 points, 801 turns, killed by a small mimic 17:11 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:16114 17:11 [US] [D]: porkman (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 313 points, 648 turns, killed by a gnome (and 20 other games not reported) 17:13 [US] [D]: hothraxxa (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 5423 points, 7796 turns, killed by a magic missile 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:16342 17:18 [EU] [D]: niddler (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 466 points, 1158 turns, poisoned by a rotted kobold corpse 17:19 aosdict ideally yes i try to make sure no one is playing. and no I dont kick anyone off 17:19 [EU] [D]: asdf (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 87375 points, 18959 turns, killed by a winged gargoyle 17:19 ideally being key word 17:20 [R] Clan Meanwhile in Europe advances to rank 10! 17:20 [US] [D]: Lettuce (Arc-Hum-Fem-Neu), 79 points, 613 turns, killed by a fox 17:21 aosdict to clarify - it depends on the type of fix or update. as i said earlier, if its just something in src/ you can compile and update and its fine 17:21 any changes to anything in include/ i always make spotless and recompile clean 17:22 otherwise really stupid things can happen, more stupid than 3.6.x failsafe making a maze if there's a .lev mismatch 17:22 *do* you have some makefile that does not overwrite the .lev files when you make install, presuming there have been no changes to any of the .des? 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1692 points, T:2251, killed by an orc-captain 17:22 no 17:23 and i dont use 'make install' 17:23 doing that wipes saves, the xlogfile, everything 17:23 we use a bash script instead 17:24 hmm idea 17:24 Where can I learn to code nethack btw 17:24 how did amy do it 17:24 you want to delve into how amy's brain works? 17:30 [US] [D]: porkman (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 1708 points, 1994 turns, killed by an arrow (and 4 other games not reported) 17:30 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 17:32 [US] [D]: Lettuce (Arc-Hum-Fem-Neu), 799 points, 2839 turns, killed by a gnome king 17:33 [EU] [D]: niddler (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 550 points, 2616 turns, killed by a goblin, while fainted from lack of food 17:33 [US] [Q]: Luxidream (Wiz-Orc-Fem-Cha), 9095 points, 3088 turns, quit 17:33 Porkman code nethack or code roguelike? :hmm: 17:33 to make a variant 17:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:34 The nethack codebase is dark and full of terror! 17:35 But I'd say start by adding a new artifact and monster, then a branch, and go from there? 17:35 [hdf-eu] [nh363] marie (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5183 points, T:8523, quit 17:35 [EU] [D]: asdf (Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha), 515 points, 2080 turns, killed by a giant ant 17:37 But I wouldn't know, I just yolo from scratch!! 17:37 I suggest using a NH4 codebase 17:37 ^ defo 17:37 either raw vanilla or fiqhack 17:38 unless you have any major interest in lowlevel engine internals, it doesn't really matter much which one 17:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 46899 points, T:8911, petrified by a cockatrice 17:38 omg what is wrong with me 17:38 fiqhack does several rewrites 17:38 [EU] [D]: joes (Val-Dwa-Fem-Law), 166 points, 774 turns, killed by a boulder 17:38 fiqhack's monsters are meaner though? 17:38 mostly as a side effect of my item use AI refactor 17:38 With their As and their Is 17:38 Aye 17:39 and the fact that they now use player spells 17:39 and instead of being a roulette, they use spells intelligently instead of randomly 17:40 note here that "intelligently" still means it's just a basic ruleset of what they do and don't do 17:40 but considering how it used to be more or less completely random... 17:40 if playername == k2 { use touch of death } 17:40 etc 17:40 [US] [D]: porkman (Wiz-Orc-Mal-Cha), 254 points, 134 turns, killed by a giant rat (and 47 other games not reported) 17:41 if playername == k2 { give wand of wishing (0:100) } 17:41 there's also various helpers that are the only thing that can actually be considered somewhat intelligent and not just a basic "if x, do y" 17:41 things such as scoring the best use of directional wands, or where to place monsters 17:41 from summoning 17:41 defo stealing that stuff 17:42 hmm 17:42 I should use the summoning code for master teleportation too 17:43 what the summoning AI code does is that it tries to figure out what gives their targets the most hostile effect 17:43 which also ought to work for master teleportation when used offensively 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:19338 17:46 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 4926 points, 4345 turns, killed by a tiger 17:46 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 2288 points, 5887 turns, killed by a giant ant, while being frightened to death 17:48 how scummy 17:48 grayswandir on t:1 17:49 which i am now probably going to go die and dump somewhere 17:49 !who 17:49 [tnnt] richards [tnnt] 17:49 jonathanhanes: [hdf-us] RyanHill [nh363] Nobbs [tnnt] Noah [tnnt] IceBox [tnnt] Lettuce [tnnt] tsingi [tnnt] ansic [tnnt] karibou [tnnt] Luxidream [tnnt] BEHiker91W [tnnt] jackofclubs [tnnt] hothraxxa [tnnt] porkman [tnnt] klintos [tnnt] Merlek [tnnt] eraserhead97 [tnnt] Bliss56 [tnnt] 17:49 shadowcat | [hdf-eu] marie [nh363] Vis [nh363] spontiff [tnnt] mosen [tnnt] amateurhour [tnnt] asdf [tnnt] swegen [tnnt] FIQ [tnnt] joes [tnnt] bubbles [dnh] | [hdf-au] No current players 17:51 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 769 points, 1305 turns, killed by a magic missile 17:51 [US] [D]: Lettuce (Arc-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1122 points, 2001 turns, killed by a giant bat 17:52 Porkman: die somewhere you have a chance to leave bones please 17:52 can i stuff it in a pearwood chest? 17:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2798 17:58 nope 18:00 Current Day as of 2019-11-04 18:00 UTC: Games: 1604, Asc: 8, Scum: 1366. 1066837 turns, 16805757 points. 11d 16:22 gametime. (49%Wiz), (51%Hum), (43%Neu), (52%Fem), 26d 05:59 remaining. 18:01 [hdf-eu] [nh363] marie (Val Hum Fem Law), 999 points, T:3145, killed by a giant ant 18:01 [hdf-eu] [nh363] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:12357 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:20529 18:09 Hughning And Mugning + HalfDragon is funny 18:09 49% wizard wow 18:09 25wis so you regen really fast 18:09 and can spam breath! 18:11 5d6 acid bolt yum 18:12 <@Tone> aosdict: I no longer hear my tooled horn making a grave frightful sound :) 18:13 <@Tone> There are more details though, I'm making a list. Like toggling stealth says "You sure are noisy." 18:13 <@Tone> Perhaps that can be inferred without sound 18:15 <@IceBox> at least give us YAFM like "You sure are noisy (probably)" 18:15 [EU] [D]: amateurhour (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 914076 points, 29390 turns, killed by Pestilence (with the Amulet) (and one other game not reported) 18:15 [US] [D]: engelson (Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu), 113 points, 859 turns, killed by a fox 18:16 [R] Clan Smile Mold advances to rank 16! 18:16 [R] Clan They All Float Down Here advances to rank 9! 18:17 you feel vibrations when walking 18:17 or something 18:21 -!- ProzacElf has joined #hardfought 18:22 do magic whistles still make a strange sound? 18:23 I feel like there was another one I'd noticed but now I don't remember 18:25 <@IceBox> yeah they do 18:25 [US] [D]: Luxidream (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 19681 points, 9705 turns, killed by a bolt of lightning 18:25 <@IceBox> tin whistles make a "high pitched sound" 18:25 i haz a magix lamp 18:26 Cursed has a chance of a low pitched humming noise 18:26 For magic, I think 18:26 Porkman wish for an end to poverty !! 18:26 cursed tin whistle makes a shrill sound that angers the watch 18:27 If you're deaf the tin whistle just "Blows air up your nose" or something to that effect 18:28 your lips tickle 18:28 gray stone in a web - can't kick something in a web 8^P 18:29 attack the web with a bladed weapon 18:30 when I use F-direction, it gives me You attack thin air. Is there another way? 18:30 K2: how are you handling bones and save incompatible updates now? 18:30 Wear gauntlets of power, and get stuck in the web. 18:30 Tear your way out. 18:30 no GoP atm 18:30 [US] [D]: Lettuce (Arc-Hum-Fem-Neu), 3266 points, 5871 turns, killed by a raven 18:30 Personally, I think it should be possible to burn webs away with fire. 18:31 I'm in catacombs in search of luckstone atm 8^P 18:31 [EU] [D]: amateurhour (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 25 points, 104 turns, killed by a succubus 18:31 Oh, another option: get stuck in the web; dig down with a pick-axe; crawl out of the pit; fill it with a boulder. 18:31 Oh, ait, that probably buries the stone, though. 18:31 *wait 18:31 maybe catacombs is undiggable? 18:31 Also, yes, Mine's ENd is undiggable floor. 18:31 [US] [D]: richards (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 47612 points, 15804 turns, killed by a warhorse, while praying 18:32 Zap teleport at the stone? 18:32 oh, that's smart 18:32 [R] Clan Smile Mold advances to rank 14! 18:33 a magic lamp makes mines exploration that much better 18:33 <@luxidream> $who 18:33 @luxidream: [EU] spontiff joes mosen saso amateurhour elenmirie swegen Dins HarmathZsolt Graznop | [US] Nobbs Noah hothraxxa tsingi LoneWolf truculent ansic karibou IceBox BEHiker91W porkman klintos Merlek eraserhead97 Bliss56 malor | [AU] No current players 18:34 thats a lot of players 18:34 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 18:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 46964 points, T:11822, killed by a crow 18:35 NOOOONOO 18:35 I hae everything 18:35 hate 18:35 I am going to go home 18:36 forever 18:36 ;_; 18:36 bhaak: for tnnt there wont be any save breaking updates 18:36 bubbles the whitewalker, killed by a crow 18:36 not during the actual tournement anyways 18:36 so thats not an issue 18:36 bhaak: do you mean overall? 18:37 That was quite fun though, I had chupo + H&M 18:37 And acid breath 18:37 Really fun actually :hmmm: 18:37 K2: yeah 18:37 stenno\proc so far the max players i've seen on hardfought was 45 (couple days ago) 18:37 wow! 18:37 K2: I mean, what are you going to do if the unthinkable happens and the devteam cranks out breaking changes on a weekly basis? 18:38 respect 18:38 bhaak: if a variant has a save breaking update, it installs into a completely new subfolder, and dgl can handle the transition from old version to new (if old save exists, play it else load new version) 18:38 K2: ah, great. like we had on un.nethack.nu then 18:39 yup 18:40 EPI: save files have a datestamp, and attempting to load them more than 4 hours after saving, results in the save file just being deleted because it was "too old". 18:40 stenno\proc i took a screenshot of it (plus there's an irclog of the !who I did) 18:40 :D 18:40 an important milestone 18:40 yeah its nuts 18:40 it we hit 50 i will lose my mind 18:41 K2: You know it's eventually going to hit 100. 18:41 i dont see how hahah 18:41 not even NAO gets that many at once do they? 18:41 PewDiePie will start playing in the tournament, and all his followers will go "oh cool". 18:42 wtf is pewdiepie 18:42 YouTube channel with the largest number of subscribers. Does mostly Let's Plays and stuff, I think. 18:42 he is by far the biggest single content creator on youtube 18:42 just got 100 million subs recentely 18:43 [EU] [D]: Graznop (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 558 points, 2723 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 18:45 the fuck is a vrock doing in mines 18:45 damn polytraps 18:46 vrock around the clock 18:46 has he ever showcased a roguelike? 18:47 nah 18:47 he played a few indie games though but i dont think nethack would be attractive to his audience 18:51 you should reach out and ask stenno 18:51 as was mentioned earlier, you only have to make him like it, rest will follow 18:52 EPI: WoW have a minimum level requirement - no more getting lucky on dlvl 1 with 3 easy wished >:) 18:53 tr 18:54 i once had a dlvl2 wand of wishing 18:54 thats the best i ever got 18:54 my current tnnt game, i found a 0:2 WoW in a shop 18:55 but of course you're doing a wishless run right? :P 18:55 Isn't there at least one variant where wands of wishing don't randomly generate? 18:55 and i kinda forgot how good invisibility is in the starting 18:55 hm 18:55 jonathanhanes... um no :P 18:56 jonadab i wanna say sporkhack 18:56 stenno\proc: Surely there's some youtube channel that is automated and posts videos being constantly taken that puts out more content than a human ever can? 18:57 biggest as in number of subscribers 18:57 ok 18:58 [EU] [D]: deki (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 4504 points, 4172 turns, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a potion 18:58 hah, the SDSM i put in the swap chest have gone 19:03 cursed chest 19:08 [hdf-eu] [nh363] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:13910 19:09 [US] [D]: Noah (Kni-Hum-Fem-Law), 85427 points, 17648 turns, killed by invisible Ixoth 19:09 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 19:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 19:10 [EU] [D]: amateurhour (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 3260 points, 2534 turns, killed by a watch captain 19:16 [EU] [D]: saso (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 700 points, 6855 turns, killed by an Uruk-hai 19:17 -!- tacco\unfoog has joined #hardfought 19:20 potions of amnesia don't exist in vanilla, right? 19:20 right 19:21 so the worst thing that can happen quaffing unid'ed potions would be sickness 19:21 in a coaligned temple with locked doors and elbereth 19:22 Hallucination is annoying if you can't cure it. Lasts FOREVER. 19:22 i am wielding grayswandir :) 19:22 Ah. 19:22 Less of a problem then. 19:23 Coaligned temple should prevent paralysis from being fatal. 19:23 Or sleep. 19:23 [EU] [D]: Anerag (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 5771 points, 3198 turns, killed by a gas cloud 19:23 well that worked out ok 19:24 none of em was nasty 19:26 Porkman: pingelingeling ;) I've answered to your earlier question in the other channel, but if you like, we can also discuss it here ;) 19:26 ooh 19:27 lemme see 19:27 [EU] [D]: Anerag (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 402 points, 611 turns, killed by an orc zombie 19:29 [EU] [D]: amateurhour (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 238 points, 536 turns, killed by a giant mimic 19:35 [EU] [D]: Anerag (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 928 points, 1187 turns, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 19:36 [US] [D]: tsingi (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1398 points, 1814 turns, killed by a small mimic (and one other game not reported) 19:36 [EU] [D]: amateurhour (Mon-Hum-Mal-Cha), 182 points, 765 turns, killed by a brown mold 19:37 I'm slightly worried that people using '_' 19:37 (or '//' or ';') followed by screen symbol won't realize that 19:37 they need to type in the default symbol rather than what 19:37 is visible. 19:37 ^ this is something I've always wondered how people using tilesets figure out 19:37 if they do at all? 19:37 or people using tilesets with nonstandard characters in general 19:38 You mean at the blessed geno prompt? 19:38 not just that 19:38 but for stuff like treavel 19:38 I think you can also type the class name as given by whatis? Not certain about that. 19:38 *travel 19:38 context refers to farlook/travel/etc 19:39 it was part of PatR's reply to my report about fucking up the curses symset 19:39 Ah. 19:40 (the problem was fixed -- he also took in my suggestions about making iron bars use ≠ instead of # in DECgraphics in an earlier change he did) 19:40 !who 19:40 eraserhead97: [hdf-us] RyanHill [nh363] Merlek [tnnt] Lettuce [tnnt] ansic [tnnt] IceBox [tnnt] malor [tnnt] karibou [tnnt] Grouchy [tnnt] BEHiker91W [tnnt] oh6 [tnnt] porkman [tnnt] hothraxxa [tnnt] klintos [tnnt] eraserhead97 [tnnt] Bliss56 [tnnt] luxor [slshm] dragonspeaker [dnh] Hratt 19:40 [evil] | [hdf-eu] rsa [nh363] Vis [nh363] marie [nh363] Graznop [tnnt] mosen [tnnt] ToneHack [tnnt] deki [tnnt] squolly [tnnt] Anerag [tnnt] amateurhour [tnnt] | [hdf-au] No current players 19:40 # had the advantage of working for both vertical and horizontal orientation. 19:41 it was also the same symbol used for corridors 19:41 True. 19:41 which looked really dumb 19:41 Different color, though. 19:41 basically 19:41 recently he changed iron bars 19:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "y", on T:3009 19:41 It's an overused symbol, admittedly. Too many meanings. 19:41 @Bliss56 thx for shield of reflection ^^ 19:41 to instead of using pi 19:41 using # 19:41 and use pi for altars instead 19:42 that is what prompted me into making the suggestion 19:42 to not use # for bars but ≠ 19:42 because it's kinda similar to IBMgraphics using the equavilence symbol 19:42 not ambiguous 19:42 and doesn't look dumb next to corridors 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 11 darts on an altar, on T:3210 19:47 why did the oracle get angry from me attacking a naga? 19:47 jonadab: your EPI page lags behind two weeks; is there a chance that you make it "catch up" the ones from oct 16-30? 19:49 damn - already to Dlvl:15 and still no general store - painful without price id 19:51 teh further down you go the less likely to get a store 19:51 i only ever really get stores in D1 to 5 19:52 wow - I didn't know that - looks like I got a sucky RNG this game 8^P 19:52 I never random quaff/read - looks like I might have to do it this game, tho 19:53 hahahahahaha 19:53 The quantum mechanic is killed. 19:53 The quantum mechanic is hit by a boulder! 19:53 The ceiling rumbles above the quantum mechanic! 19:53 The quantum mechanic reads a scroll labeled DUAM XNAHT! 19:53 eraserhead97: I've gotten stores on like level 27 below Medusa, so it CAN happen. 19:54 implement dnhwishing! 19:54 re: woW level requirements 19:54 [EU] [D]: AlbertB (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 188499 points, 34251 turns, dissolved in molten lava 19:54 cross-my-fingers 19:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a conical hat entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:3568 19:55 stores are 3/dlevel or something? 19:55 IF a valid room is generated 19:55 What a nice gift.... a +4 dunce cap lol 19:56 Perfect against h! 19:59 well, I shouldn't complain - I should be dead this game - in the Catacombs, I stupidly ran into a floating eye and got saved by a lucky amulet of LS (wore it unknown) and then I picked up a gray stone stuck in some spiderwebs, which of course, turned out to be a loadstone. Dipping in the fountains there brought out (eventually) 3 water demons. 19:59 Only thing that saved me (so many times this game) was a wand of fire and a bunch of Es. 19:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:3580 19:59 -!- jonadab has joined #hardfought 19:59 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v jonadab] by ChanServ 19:59 -!- jessek has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 20:02 ok - this game forced me to learn quaff-id - reading wiki now 20:03 Hratt_ that should provide immunity against sucking from mind flayers ^^ 20:04 !lastgame albertb 20:04 jonathanhanes: [hdf-us] (sorry, no dump exists for nh:AlbertB) | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AlbertB/nethack/dumplog/1571414988.nh.html 20:04 my previous wizard astralsplatted btw 20:05 oh - I didn't know about unihorn dipping - pretty useful for potion-id 20:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 3829 points, T:3480, killed by a dwarf 20:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 3354 points, T:1818, killed by a wolf 20:12 one day 20:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Hratt (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3414 points, T:3702, killed by a gas cloud, while sleeping 20:16 how does the "All Roles" trophy work? if each role has been ascended by someone in the clan, that work? 20:18 you can earn all roles either as an individual or as a team 20:21 -!- captain42 has joined #hardfought 20:22 [hdf-eu] [nh343] hilarita (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 312 points, T:414, killed by a small mimic 20:24 -!- tonehack has joined #hardfought 20:27 @K2 cool - thx ^^ (although, as an individual, methinks Luxi may be the only one who can get that one) 20:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:5888 20:28 @K2 so individual and team are separate trophies (as in points)? 20:28 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 20:28 can be yes 20:28 ic - that's going to change my choices on start - ty 20:28 maybe not for roles, but for the others... 20:29 [hdf-eu] [nh363] rsa (Val Dwa Fem Law), 18422 points, T:6827, killed by an invisible winged gargoyle 20:31 @ sign on Dlvl:15 got me excited for a store (for price-id) - turned out to be a gray elf 20:35 LarienTelrunya: The computer that used to collate those, is ded. 20:35 jonadab NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU :( 20:35 Power blink -> root filesystem unbootable 20:35 rip :/ any chance that you can set up a new one? 20:35 damn 20:36 the PC that I used to develop slex with, also died about a week ago 20:36 woohoo! finally, a general store on Dlvl:18 ^^ 20:36 I mean, I put a new hard drive in and installed Devuan and have been working on setting up various bits of the old computer's functionality. 20:36 Got Arsinoe working earlier today. 20:36 I thought that left Discord as the major thing not still working. 20:36 Forgot about the EPI list. 20:36 heh, I'm also in the process of setting up my new PC, but some of the games aren't fully working yet 20:37 *still not 20:37 also fallout 3 is ultra laggy now because the video card of this new PC sucks (it's a nvidia 7100) 20:37 in my case, the breakdown happened about one week after I did the last backup so I'm still missing some stuff 20:38 hopefully I can somehow read out the data from the old hard drive 20:38 So I guess I'll have to plug in the old HD again (I've got it on an external sata-to-USB thingy) and look at its cron job to figure out what was collating the EPI list. 20:38 In order to set that up again. 20:38 Probably ought to grab the whole crontab tree while I'm at it. 20:38 ahh I think there's such a sata-to-USB thingy at my roommate's place too, I need to ask her for that 20:38 For reference. 20:39 hohum 20:39 3 coaligned temples 20:39 Or I could just leave the EPI list frozen in time as of last update. 20:40 It's not like it doesn't have enough entries by now. 20:40 that would be very unfortunate though, because chances are people come up with new EPIs that might be suitable for slex 20:40 That's an argument in favor of leaving it broken. 20:40 dude please don't be that cruel ;) 20:41 LarienTelrunya: are you building an antique pc so you can continue to run XP? \o/ 20:41 Arguably, fixing it would be cruel to slex players. Assuming there are any not-entirely massochistic ones. 20:41 bubbles_nh: you bet! 20:41 get a mac gurl! 20:41 it's my roommate's old PC in fact; she is on a windows doesntwork (i.e. 10) PC now so she no longer needs the old one 20:41 Forget XP, run Windows 2000, or run Seven. 20:41 Or PC-DOS 3.3, of course. 20:41 omg I'll certainly not get a mac 20:42 how crucial is a luckstone? it looks like the one I picked up from Catacombs was a flint stone - the other location only had a level-transport trap (no gray stone)... ...wondering if I need to scour the Mines for the luckstone or just fuggettaboutit... 20:42 jonadab: windows 3.1 forever :P 20:42 I've used Windows 3.1. Ugh. No thanks. 20:42 LarienTelrunya: If I ever set up a website of my own I'll probably steal jonadab's code and do the same thing for YANIs. Or jonadab could just set up an alternate page on his site that uses my regex list. 20:42 any *nix rocks (including OSX and linux) ^^ 20:43 LarienTelrunya: Have you ever tried out BeOS 5 PE? 20:43 You seem like the kind of person who would never want to give that up if you ever got started on it. 20:43 jonadab: uhh no idea what that's even supposed to be 20:43 It's an operating system. 20:43 Old, now. 20:44 windows is the only thing that exists :P 20:45 BeOS can actually install right on top of Windows, just makes a big file to use as its filesystem, and adds an icon to the desktop that boots into it. 20:45 Though it's _recommended_ to create an actual partition and use a proper boot manager. 20:45 -!- eLtMosen1 has joined #hardfought 20:45 But it's not required. 20:45 windows 10 is a good OS 20:46 Dunno if it can support NTFS though. When I used it, it was running on Windows 95 OSR2, so FAT32. 20:46 stenno\proc: Hitler did nothing wrong? 20:46 Windows 10 has some neat technical stuff. 20:46 uhm, what 20:46 But it is such an unstable and immature product, discontinuing Seven in favor of it was grossly irresponsible. 20:47 creating win 7 in the first place was grossly irresponsible, it's basically the nethack 3.6 of operating systems :P 20:47 and XP is the nethack 3.4.3 equivalent 20:47 Seven is a strict improvement over XP. 20:47 everyone says that for some reason 20:48 well 20:48 maybe 20:48 cuz its true 20:48 but I say, seven is a regression compared to oblivion (yes, oblivion is also an operating system :P if there are operating systems in TES 4: Oblivion, they are Windows XP of course!) 20:48 Ten is a strict improvement over Eight/Blue. 20:48 But you know. 20:49 * K2 likes win10 20:50 windows 95 or nothing 20:50 Among other things, Ten is pathologically incapable of allowing the user to continue to do work once an update becomes available. It instantly becomes I/O bound and stays that way for several *hours*. 20:50 windows server 2016 yes, windows 10 for user no 20:50 The fact that nothing works any more is the user's first clue that there must be an update coming. 20:50 w2k16 server is why i am on 2 hrs sleep today 20:50 [hdf-eu] [nh363] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14375 20:51 my laptop (the one on which I'm chatting right now) is win 7 and has the same problem: if everything slows down to a crawl, a stupid update is running in the background 20:51 go vis! 20:51 * jonadab is so glad he won't need to support Windows Server any more, because we migrated off of Polaris. 20:51 jonadab i can still work on my win10 machines at work and home and have an update processing 20:51 perhaps there's a hardware limitation/bottleneck 20:52 win10 really needs 8gig ram minimum 20:52 Also, the Ten UI is so half-baked, the only way to get low contrast display colors (an accessibility requirement for those of us whose eyes are sensitive to light) is to enable high contrast mode. 20:52 you can get by with 4 gig but meh 20:52 And then about a third of all applications still don't work right with it. 20:52 Applications that were no problem on Seven. 20:52 welp 20:53 microsoft officially ends support for 7 this january 20:53 what sucks are the auto-update/reboots on windows10 (kills running linux servers through virtualbox) - turning it off appears to be non-trivial 20:53 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 3994 points, 2275 turns, killed by a dwarf 20:53 K2: I mean, for me personally, this is not a problem, I'll just keep using Devuan anyway. 20:53 if they end support, it means less annoying updates which is a good thing :P 20:53 I never have these update reboot problems :s 20:53 LarienTelrunya: meh security is a good thing 20:54 You don't want the baddies stealing yo' zorkmidssdsd 20:54 i would love to get away from windows and have everyone use ubuntu desktop - wouldnt need to upgrade any hardware 20:54 but the learning curve would be too great 20:54 [US] [D]: bouquet (Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu), 1180 points, 3705 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 20:54 [EU] [D]: tacco (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 2132 points, 2575 turns, killed by a Woodland-elf 20:54 bubbles_nh: I don't trust microsoft of all things when it comes to security... having good antivirus, backup plans etc. is much more important 20:54 K2: The learning curve moving from Seven to Ten, honestly, you might as well move everyone to KDE or something. 20:54 in fact you can never have enough backups of your data IMHO :P 20:54 K2: not really, just switch to a windows 95 theme for xfce, put a IE icon on the desktop, done. 20:54 nah its not as bad as you think 20:55 LarienTelrunya: not backups, bank deails etc. 20:55 as long as the links to are there, life is ok 20:55 K2: Every additional month I spend supporting people who use Ten (we have four staff workstations on it now), I find out new ways it's terrible. 20:55 heh 20:55 It doesn't get better the more I know about it. It gets worse. 20:55 You should all be glad you don't have to use xcode 20:55 !booze jonadab 20:55 * Beholder tosses jonadab a shot of the hard stuff, prayed over by the /dev/null/oracle at 276 Kelvin. 20:55 And pray to the gods high and low you never do. 20:55 !booze bubbles_nhww 20:55 * Beholder delivers bubbles_nhww a fifth of the hooch, prayed over by demogorgon at -7 degrees Celsius. 20:55 oh yeah 20:55 lol 20:56 It really wants me to have that hooch 20:56 and lots of it 20:56 our erp is on an aging as400 running a shit custom version of solarsoft 5 revisions old 20:56 I'mma take its advice tonight i think 20:56 it makes win95 look like the 2nd coming of jesus 20:56 omg so cute, just found a 3x2 throne room 20:57 it was just an orc captain and his two buds 20:57 awwww <--- cute aww 20:57 LarienTelrunya: EPI: Make potions act like wraith corpses so you can vomit and die on them if you are over-satiated 20:58 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1590 points, T:2971, killed by a rothe 21:04 oh for fucks sake 21:04 the devteam t-shirt 21:04 is an artifact?! 21:04 what does it even do? 21:06 <@IceBox> luckstone and warning 21:06 and i just wasted an artifact slot for two things i already have 21:06 £*"($&"£*($& 21:06 I will murder that whole devteam level 21:07 lol, an egg named easter egg 21:07 Porkman i wouldnt advise doing that 21:07 hah. why? 21:08 * K2 wanders off 21:08 I never considered going murderhobo on the devteam, what happens? 21:08 stairs probably close off and they force you to be a code monkey until turn 999,999 21:08 you probably simply die because of cookie reasons, just as if you offered the amulet to moloch :P (cough3.6cough) 21:09 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 21:09 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 21:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 21:10 no seriously, this messes up my strategy 21:10 !who 21:10 [slshm] 21:10 jonathanhanes: [hdf-us] Karnac [nh363] samiam [nh363] hothraxxa [tnnt] Luxidream [tnnt] BEHiker91W [tnnt] Nobbs [tnnt] Merlek [tnnt] jmcunx [tnnt] truculent [tnnt] k2 [tnnt] ansic [tnnt] Bliss56 [tnnt] malor [tnnt] porkman [tnnt] klintos [tnnt] eraserhead97 [tnnt] LoneWolf [tnnt] phorbin 21:10 [tnnt] luxor | [hdf-eu] spontiff [tnnt] tacco [tnnt] ToneHack [tnnt] Dins [tnnt] khamul [tnnt] deki [tnnt] voffer [tnnt] mosen [tnnt] Anerag [tnnt] saso [tnnt] AlbertB [tnnt] Kontroller [tnnt] amateurhour [tnnt] swegen [tnnt] bubbles [dnh] | [hdf-au] Grasshopper [tnnt] 21:10 can it at least go to +7 or is it completely useless? 21:11 <@IceBox> what was your strategy that a tshirt messed it up? other than artifactless? 21:11 <@IceBox> hoping to wish for an arti? 21:11 wishing for the right kind of artis at the right time 21:11 which involves HOOA 21:12 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non) wished for "blessed fixed +2 premium heart", on T:17665 21:12 <@IceBox> like which artis? 21:12 <@IceBox> grayswandir and oof or something? 21:12 magic mirror of merlin 21:12 <@IceBox> anyways it's a totally normal t-shirt, so probably not able to go to +7 21:12 <@IceBox> normal for enchanting purposes 21:12 [US] [A]: phorbin (Mon-Hum-Mal-Neu), 2028610 points, 44101 turns, ascended (and 27 other games not reported) https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/phorbin/tnnt/dumplog/1572794754.tnnt.html 21:12 YANI: role with an HoOA quest artifact 21:13 gratz phorbin! 21:13 gratz!!!! 21:14 The devteam characters hit quite hard 21:14 But they don't one-shot you 21:14 They do stun on attack though 21:14 nice one, congrats 21:14 I was victim to the y-y "feature" 21:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:19240 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:28482 21:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 202375 points, T:20124, petrified by a cockatrice 21:23 NO WAIT 21:23 WHAT? 21:23 I had premium heart on 21:23 what???? 21:23 It was stolen? 21:23 I pressed escape 21:23 omg 21:23 [EU] [D]: Kontroller (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 1111 points, 2993 turns, killed by a giant bat 21:23 haha 21:23 !lastlog bubbles 21:23 !lastgame bubbles 21:23 bubbles_nh: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bubbles/dnethack/dumplog/1572898392.dnh.txt 21:23 there are far more ways to die from a cockatrice corpse than from a live one 21:23 Wtf? Why was I not wearing it? 21:24 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1300 points, T:3706, killed by a rothe 21:24 Actually what is wrong with me? :s 21:28 [EU] [D]: saso (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 208 points, 683 turns, killed by a crossbow bolt 21:29 [EU] [D]: deki (Val-Hum-Fem-Law), 115745 points, 14917 turns, killed by a bolt of fire 21:30 [R] Clan unfoog advances to rank 9! 21:30 [EU] [D]: saso (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 5 points, 298 turns, killed by a water moccasin 21:43 https://i.imgur.com/wy4hS1F.png dinner is served \o/ 21:43 hah! nice bubbles 21:44 Honestly a pretty decent wine for £5.50 21:44 Very drinkable! 21:44 yeah shiraz is often good bang for buck 21:44 And only 12.5% which means I don't feel guilty about finishihg the bottle 21:45 lol wtf is a shop doing on dlvl19 21:45 3/19 chance innit 21:45 or something 21:45 * bubbles_nh checks 21:51 [EU] [D]: saso (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1548 points, 1709 turns, killed by a dwarf, while praying 21:52 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 21:53 yeah 3/dl 21:53 so 3/19 is not actually that low 21:56 [US] [D]: Entitas (Val-Hum-Fem-Neu), 32560 points, 11949 turns, killed by a death ray 22:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Inc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1393 22:04 [EU] [D]: saso (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 840 points, 1312 turns, killed by an arrow 22:09 -!- eraserhead97 has joined #hardfought 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:32714 22:10 -!- jessek has joined #hardfought 22:10 Phorbin the Master - this looks like something new 22:12 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1113 points, 2993 turns, killed by a rothe 22:12 wtf - I can't hit him w/a +7 Excalibur - don't have a stethoscope to check him out 22:14 eraserhead97: his AC is probably quite high 22:14 hope you survive 22:15 @aosdict any hints on how to kill him? I was thinking of self-poly to black-D, but is he resistant to disintegration? 22:15 actually, he's got a WoD that I'm not sure is drained yet... 22:15 worth a try. I don't think they're *guaranteed* to be made disint resistant 22:18 reflected off his amulet 22:18 [hdf-us] [nh363] RyanHill (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed bag of holding", on T:33724 22:18 I'll have to come back another day - maybe with a rubber-chicken 22:19 You can't go back once you leave 22:19 damnit 22:19 it didn't say "point of no return" for nothing 22:19 I had 2 rings of + accuracy and I was still barely hitting them 22:19 [US] [D]: phorbin (Pri-Hum-Mal-Neu), 537 points, 1429 turns, killed by a gnome lord (and one other game not reported) 22:20 but I had vorpal blade and I WAS hitting them 22:20 so it was only a matter of time 22:20 so it seems a total luck thing you have to happen to be prepared when you hit the portal 22:20 <@luxidream> you can go back 22:20 <@luxidream> also phorbin is really weak 22:20 <@luxidream> just has good ac 22:20 but the portal is gone 22:20 once you leave after entering the arena, the portal disappears luxidream 22:20 <@luxidream> oh you can leave the arena 22:20 <@luxidream> but once you leave you can't come back 22:21 oh, ic 22:21 <@luxidream> I thought you meant running away 22:21 <@luxidream> you can definitely do that 22:21 you could give them a c corpse and then lead them into a pit 22:21 I prolly poly-selfed into the wrong monster (I tried black D but his amulet of reflection countered) - I should've turned into a cockatrice 22:22 i'm really weak? 22:22 lol 22:22 but maybe c won't work (prolly can't hit him with low AC) 22:22 oh because weaponless? 22:23 I'd imagine it would be tough hitting with a c corpse 22:23 i wasn't wearing body armor until the run up and i killed a silver dragon in the castle with amulet and decided to wear it 22:23 and the last npc I killed had 9 lizards on them 22:24 my ac was -28 before that 22:24 but i think like 42 when i ascended 22:24 also had a +4 ring of protection that i wasn't wearing but maybe the npc will put it on ? 22:24 so now, I'm a black-D and I'm at Medusa's Lair, but can't use shield of reflection - wonder if blindfold will work 22:25 nope 22:25 oh ffs 22:25 wand of wishing (0:1) 22:25 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 22:26 *finally*# 22:27 phorbin: if your NPC is really weak it could be that you yourself had really good stuff but the nethack ai kneecaps that 22:27 carried magic resistance 22:27 yeah... well i dunno if i trust luxidream's opinion of "weak" 22:27 my feelings weren't hurt 22:28 but just so i understand how this works, if he had beaten the character does he get all the stuff? I had two wands of death, but what about the boh? there was a wow inside 22:33 lol and grimtooth appears 22:34 -!- eraserhead9761 has joined #hardfought 22:36 @luxidream so how did you defeat Phorbin? 22:37 <@luxidream> the character was weak not because of you phorbin 22:37 <@luxidream> but because he didn't use a weapon, compared to other player monsters 22:37 <@luxidream> nothing to do with you, your character was quite strong actually 22:38 ya i gotcha. i just happened to look at irc and saw you say that haha 22:38 <@luxidream> thought I'd clarify 🙂 22:38 <@luxidream> and I hit him in the face with excal until he died 22:38 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 437 points, 1678 turns, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted hobbit, while sleeping 22:38 but do you get all the stuff? contents of bag too? 22:38 ah - so I guess Xp:11 didn't give me sufficient to-hit bonuses 22:39 I was missing him with a +7 excal 22:39 the thing you need to remember eraser, is that in vanilla you never face monsters with -42 AC so you always hit 22:40 <@luxidream> you only get one item 22:40 <@luxidream> the bag is empty 22:40 oh ok 22:40 cool 22:41 ic 22:42 what would be cool as a new feature is something like a Phorbin except he's a mirror of yourself with all the same equipment ^^ 22:43 dragonscale mails fed to swap chest :) 22:43 -!- vevais has joined #hardfought 22:43 oh 22:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Inc Mal Non), 37937 points, T:7406, killed by a barbed devil 22:43 unaligned 22:43 v.nice Porkman - wish I was near the chest 22:43 but not the right way 22:44 a gray dragon scale mail bestowed unto you by the boundless generosity of porkman! 22:44 how many swap chests are there in total? 22:44 <{Demo}> thanks porkman! 22:45 thanks mr pirk! 22:45 this time i stuffed a COMR and two GDSM in it 22:45 gdsm should give half spell damage and sdsm should give silver damage to attacks and relatiation 22:45 figh tme 22:45 fight me 22:46 [US] [D]: Entitas (Ran-Hum-Fem-Neu), 7038 points, 6307 turns, killed by a winter wolf 22:48 [US] [D]: Entitas (Sam-Hum-Mal-Law), 96 points, 167 turns, killed by a small mimic 22:50 wtf - a polytrap under a boulder in castle entrance 8^P 22:51 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 450699 points, T:63289, killed by a water elemental 22:52 [US] [A]: Luxidream (Kni-Hum-Fem-Cha), 856678 points, 38998 turns, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/tnnt/dumplog/1572891913.tnnt.html 22:52 [Tr] Luxidream now has All The Alignments! 22:52 <{Demo}> what 22:54 this run is sorely lacking spellbooks 22:56 write-your-own or pol ^^ 22:56 poly 22:57 <{Demo}> you need a spellbook to do that 22:57 gatz luxi 22:57 you are a monster 22:57 I love you 22:58 $asc malor 22:58 bubbles_nh: [EU] No ascensions for malor. | [US] malor has ascended 1 times in 10 games (10.00%): 1xBar, 1xHum, 1xCha, 1xMal. | [AU] No ascensions for malor. 22:58 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 745 points, 2040 turns, killed by a killer bee 22:58 Water gets into your oilskin sack named cancellation! 22:58 eeeeh? 22:59 aren't oilskin sacks supposed to be immune to water? 22:59 <{Demo}> in vanilla, no 22:59 <{Demo}> they are resistant 22:59 <{Demo}> is that stupid? yes. should they be immune? yes 22:59 <@luxidream> they are immune 22:59 <@luxidream> yours is cursed 22:59 <{Demo}> oh 22:59 <{Demo}> i guess im thinking of oilskin cloaks 23:00 aha 23:01 i usually test a $100 bag by dipping in fountain 23:01 [EU] [D]: saso (Wiz-Elf-Fem-Cha), 3569 points, 2747 turns, killed by a mumak 23:02 (water gets in bag=boh) 23:02 ...or cursed oilskin 23:02 and i think the oilskin self ids when you do that 23:02 oh i never thought of that! 23:02 nice - a wand of cancellation on top of castle's wishing chest - I think I'll put that one back in the chest 8^P 23:03 zap it at the other wand! 23:03 For infinite wishes 23:03 I don't like to keep wands of cancellation unless I have a sack 23:03 it cancels the :X of the other wand 23:03 honest 23:03 better yet, (a)pply the WoW for one MEGA wish 23:03 [US] [D]: AntiVirus (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 927 points, 2466 turns, killed by a pony 23:03 *laughs in chaotic8 23:03 you'll break the infinite wishes conduct, but it's worth it imo 23:06 so i am a chaotic wizard with the magic mirror of merlin 23:06 and i made excalibur 23:07 so once i write finger of death, i can go get crowned as lawful and get saber unrestricted 23:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Inc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3223 23:08 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 23:10 YANI: shopkeepers should pay you a small fee for killing a mimic in their shop (that was generted tehre) 23:10 lol yes 23:10 <@John Keel> no way, you're paying 7 zm for the corpse and you'll like it 23:10 10 zorkmids seems the right amount 23:10 Yeah something like that 23:11 flavour innit! 23:12 [EU] [D]: Raisse (Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu), 52 points, 269 turns, killed by a kobold 23:12 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 228 points, 720 turns, killed by a bat 23:13 lol, this is a first 23:13 no downstairs in home:2 23:15 <{Demo}> are you playing bleeding edge dnh? 23:15 TNNT 23:15 Is it under something porkman? 23:15 welcome to come look at the level 23:15 (it's magic mapped) 23:15 <{Demo}> ok i will 23:16 <{Demo}> dig down i guess? 23:16 dig down 23:16 <{Demo}> and then go up the stairs and see where you land 23:16 lolwut 23:16 <{Demo}> LOL 23:16 <{Demo}> the level generator broke 23:17 lol 23:17 hahaha 23:17 i broke nethack 23:17 PORKMAN > NETHACK 23:17 <@luxidream> do you come out of the floor 23:17 <@luxidream> coming back up 23:17 <{Demo}> tell yeah he does 23:17 <{Demo}> tell aosdict 23:17 <@luxidream> happened to me once in dynahack 23:17 <{Demo}> and if he seems to think it is a vanilla bug, tell the DT 23:17 <@luxidream> apparently it's vanilla 23:17 <@luxidream> :V 23:18 <{Demo}> also mention there were only 3 rooms on the level 23:18 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 459254 points, 36100 turns, drowned in a moat by a giant eel 23:20 -!- Tangles has joined #hardfought 23:20 -!- mode/#hardfought [+o Tangles] by ChanServ 23:23 [EU] [D]: asdf (Tou-Hum-Fem-Neu), 3093 points, 7161 turns, killed by a quasit 23:24 [US] [D]: SkippitoFriskito (Bar-Orc-Mal-Cha), 352 points, 1358 turns, killed by a bolt of cold 23:25 [US] [D]: AntiVirus (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 1055 points, 1854 turns, killed by a dwarf 23:26 @porkman thx for the +1 GDSM ^^ 23:26 ^_^ 23:26 sorry i didnt get enough scrolsl to make it +5 this time around 23:27 now, you're making me feel guilty about leaving just a blue DS in exchange 8^P 23:28 [US] [D]: gxe99 (Pri-Elf-Fem-Cha), 4641 points, 4927 turns, killed by a dingo 23:30 [US] [D]: jmcunx (Wiz-Elf-Mal-Cha), 197 points, 764 turns, killed by a gas spore's explosion 23:31 !who 23:31 K2: [hdf-us] lordjoe [nh363] JohnKeel [tnnt] AntiVirus [tnnt] WizardOfPoland [tnnt] karibou [tnnt] oh6 [tnnt] eitwinston [tnnt] porkman [tnnt] towardsdawn [tnnt] LoneWolf [tnnt] malor [tnnt] eraserhead97 [tnnt] hothraxxa [tnnt] Bliss56 [tnnt] luxor [slshm] rikersan [dnh] dragonspeaker [dnh] 23:31 | [hdf-eu] Kontroller [tnnt] ToneHack [tnnt] mosen [tnnt] Anerag [tnnt] Raisse [tnnt] asdf [tnnt] tacco [tnnt] spontiff [tnnt] Graznop [tnnt] bubbles [dnh] | [hdf-au] Numbgoon [tnnt] Grasshopper [tnnt] 23:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Inc Mal Non) averted death, on T:7554 23:34 EvilHack updated (all servers) 23:34 ^ latest devteam bits 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] lordjoe (Cav Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3309 23:38 got excited with Porkman's GDSM so I almost went down into G - but then I remembered... ...haven't geno'ed anything yet 8^P 23:39 [EU] [D]: asdf (Ran-Gno-Fem-Neu), 592 points, 1885 turns, killed by a dingo 23:39 I've geno'ed so many L's and h's, I've forgotten that they exist... 23:39 -!- ichbinmiah has joined #hardfought 23:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Inc Mal Non), 54313 points, T:8330, killed by an air elemental 23:40 sigghhh 23:40 DAMN - in the planes? 23:41 Not even close 23:41 Sadly 23:41 K2 ouch on he moat drowning 23:41 yeah 23:41 totally avoidable 23:41 me not paying attention and thinking ahead 23:41 I would say 80% of my deaths are I just play too yolo 23:41 Yep, not enough attention to the messages 23:41 And not enough attention to the HP 23:42 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 23:42 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 23:44 [EU] [D]: tacco (Mon-Hum-Fem-Neu), 6806 points, 5535 turns, killed by a soldier ant 23:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] bubbles (Bin Inc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:617 23:46 -!- stenno\proc has joined #hardfought 23:47 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Und Dop Fem Neu), 3020 points, T:4923, killed by a gnome lord 23:48 $asc luxidream 23:48 bubbles_nh: [EU] No ascensions for luxidream. | [US] luxidream has ascended 9 times in 314 games (2.87%): 1xBar 1xKni 7xWiz, 2xHum 1xGno 6xOrc, 4xLaw 1xNeu 4xCha, 3xMal 6xFem. | [AU] No ascensions for luxidream. 23:49 6 orcs 23:49 nice 23:50 how many chests are there? 23:50 swap chests i mean 23:51 [EU] [D]: asdf (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 455 points, 1423 turns, killed by an acidic corpse 23:51 Porkman 2 23:52 thanks 23:52 ya - I just discovered that the 2 are distinct (as opposed to 1 that exists in 2 places) 23:52 well, I mean, as portals 23:53 I think they go to the same place 23:53 in other words, you have 2 chances to use them 23:54 [US] [D]: k2 (Arc-Hum-Mal-Law), 26 points, 100 turns, killed by a newt 23:54 no, they are the same pool of items 23:55 Would somebody be so kind as to put a helm of briliance into one :) 23:55 [EU] [D]: asdf (Ran-Elf-Mal-Cha), 342 points, 1104 turns, killed by a little dog 23:55 yes, that's what I said - but I mean the 2 chests are 2 distinct portals 23:55 so you can do 2 deposit/withdraw cycles 23:56 just making sure - no one thinks there are magic portals involved with the chests that transport *you*, right? 23:56 Because there are not. 23:57 yes, I understand that - just calling them portals (for easier conceptual understanding that they go to one place) 23:58 or I should just say one pool (as mentioned above) 23:59 [US] [D]: efot (Hea-Gno-Fem-Neu), 2126 points, 7613 turns, killed by a blast of frost, while sleeping