14:10 -!- karatkievich.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ TNNT 2019! Public BETA is now open, please report any bugs or issues 14:11 !ping 14:11 K2: Pong! 14:11 K2: Pong! 14:11 :P 14:11 !time 14:11 K2: 2019-10-31 14:11:16 UTC. 2019 Tournament begins in 0d 09:48:43 14:11 K2: Thu Oct 31 10:11:16 2019 EDT 14:11 [hdf-eu] [nh363] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:19331 14:12 haha there's a couple of overlapping commands there. 14:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Croesus] by K2 14:14 YANIfying two ideas ^^^: booze hurts your spell memory, and something eating your brain will get confused if you are confused 14:14 hah neat 14:14 I don't have a neural net trained to sort out conversations about new ideas 14:16 <{Demo}> wait it starts at the utc? 14:16 How come when I ssh into hardfought the VLINE character renders correctrly, but if I just open a text file locally it doesn't? 14:17 <{Demo}> dude hdf is weird 14:18 bubbles_nhww: Probably something to do with charsets. 14:18 Ah, if I select a symset on the server is it doing something extra? 14:18 -!- LarienTelrunya has joined #hardfought 14:18 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v LarienTelrunya] by ChanServ 14:18 The web server probably tells the browser "everything I am sending you is UTF-8 because this is not 1995 any more". 14:19 This is ssh in on the terminal! 14:19 Oh, right, hmm. 14:19 is this a custom symbol? 14:19 there have been very recent changes to those for vanilla 14:19 Nah, │ 14:19 It works on all versions, but if I copy/paste that into Terminal.app it doesn't join up 14:19 ( I use terminal.app to ssh into hardfought) 14:19 that looks like a very tall | to me 14:20 It's a box drawing VLINE 14:20 * stenno recommends iterm2 as alternative to terminal.app 14:20 I don't know, maybe the OS thinks the filesystem is storing some other charset? 14:20 I use iterm2 for everything else \o/ 14:20 And it works fine in iterm2 14:20 well why not just also for nethack? :) 14:20 Though I'd expect OS X to be all UTF-8-ified by now. 14:20 i have a nice profile for nethack 14:21 Microsoft is the major holdout, or so I thought. 14:21 Just historical 14:21 bubbles_nhww: try changing the font of the terminal. 14:21 jonadab: uuhm, its Complicted 14:21 bhaak okey 14:21 stenno: THAT I believe. 14:21 bhaak but how come the same font works when I ssh 14:21 almost as complicated as typing 'complicated' correctly 14:21 Hmm, menlo works but Monaco doesn't 14:21 wait 14:21 complicted - a portmanteaux of complicated and conflicted 14:21 How strange, no worries, weird terminal behaviour won't stop me from CODE 14:21 monaco is not monospace 14:22 It is! 14:22 just use menlo because menlo is love 14:22 But taller 14:22 Yeah Menlo I use now 14:22 oh 14:22 -!- cherryh.freenode.net changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ TNNT 2019! Public BETA is now open, please report any bugs or issues 14:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Croesus] by ChanServ 14:22 No idea why it was on Monaco anyway, still doesn't explain why it renders correctly remotely, but maybe nethack is changing codepage or something weird like that *shrug* 14:22 No biggie 14:23 Thanks all! 14:23 bubbles_nhww: I'm not sure, it's probably complicated 14:24 [hdf-eu] [fh] update when? (winsalot) (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 5922 points, T:90, quit 14:24 -!- Cevn__ has joined #hardfought 14:25 https://i.imgur.com/M5u6MKf.png woo 14:25 <@Tone> alex__: Speedruns tend to employ a lot of polyself exploits, so the confuse monster spell ends up being the most reliable source of confusion 14:25 Trying out a new multi-light-level system 14:26 <@Tone> Since you'll probably be in a monster form anyways 14:26 So lamps give you "strong light" near, and "weak light" further 14:26 bubbles_nhww: So at a distance you can only tell that it's a dragon, not what color? 14:26 bubbles_nhww: omg those colors. is your game meant to be unplayable? blue font on blue background??? :P 14:26 * jonadab wants a colorblindness implementation but doesn't want to put in the work to make it happen. 14:26 LarienTelrunya ignore that 14:27 [hdf-eu] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:21822 14:27 LarienTelrunya I need to fix my local palette, Terminal.app doesn't let you change it programatically \o/ 14:27 jonadab I was thinking more you'd be able to see something like 1/2/3 for "small/medium/large "monster, and then "]" for "an object" 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:24066 14:28 bubbles_nhww: That'd make sense at an even greater distance. But note that 1/2/3 are taken by warning. 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh363] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24094 14:29 I'd go with bold/bright white I for large monster, plain unbold white I for medium, bold/bright black ("dark grey") for small. 14:29 Ah yeah, I works better probably 14:29 Or something along those lines. 14:29 (? would make more sense than I, but that would be confusing in NetHack because scrolls.) 14:30 Aye, glyph overload is bad 14:30 I makes a lot of sense 14:30 With varying color/boldness 14:31 And when you farlook it, "Something large in the distance. 14:31 (or medium or small, whatever) 14:31 Err, "in the darkness" maybe better than distance. 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh363] Noah (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1443 points, T:3631, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze 14:32 Aye, farlook super important! 14:32 It will make cavern-type levels way fairer 14:32 [hdf-eu] [nh363] mosen (Val Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:11522 14:32 Well, easier, but I could pull in the "strong light" distance 14:33 If you're going to go with light levels, some races might need more light than others to see at a given level. 14:33 <{Demo}> can we have raycasting in bubblehack? 14:33 {Demo} in what respect? 14:33 Heh. 14:33 FOV is already raycast essentially 14:34 You mean like wands in non-8 directions? 14:34 <{Demo}> raycasting light sources 14:34 Are light sources not already raycast? 14:34 In all variants/vanilla? 14:34 Or do you mean finer granularity, so a tile can be partially lit? 14:34 I think the thing NetHack doesn't have, with regard to light, is the inverse square law, actually. 14:35 jonadab aye, that's what this multi-light level is attempting to move towards 14:35 Four moderately distant light sources can't add up to a similar light level to one close source, for instance. 14:36 I use distance^2 for the light level 14:36 But also, the raycasting comment was funny, because raycasting is also the standard term for the 3D rendering system used by early FPS games, including Doom. 14:36 (inverse of, but whatever) 14:36 {Demo} can you explain what you mean more, I am interested! 14:36 <{Demo}> raycasting has come back now with a lot of things and it was mostly a joke 14:36 Ahh 14:37 I thought you meant more accurate rays 14:37 Like a wand crossing multiple tiles but not in the 8 "normal" directions. 14:37 jonadab: However, ais523 is on board with making candle stacking quadratic instead of exponential 14:38 I am on board with that only to the extent that I don't think it would create any noteworthy problems. 14:38 <{Demo}> don't they stack log7? 14:38 I don't think it's an important change to make. 14:38 <{Demo}> or something wild 14:38 <{Demo}> hey bubbles, directional lighting 14:38 <{Demo}> imagine that 14:39 well, as it is I'd very rarely consider lighting more than one candle at a time except with the Candelabrum. 14:39 {Demo}: Wait, NetHack needs a physics engine that can properly simulate polarized light, and that thing that happens when you add a third filter at a 45-degree angle. 14:40 {Demo}: well, sqrt/quadratic, and log/exponential, whatever 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh363] klintos (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2849 14:41 <{Demo}> can we get colored light also? 14:56 oh thank you quantum mechanic for saving my life just now 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh363] klintos (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1688 points, T:3990, killed by a gray unicorn 14:57 posse of elf lords trying to kill me and I was out of Pw 14:59 love it when a dust vortex drops you off in front of a killer unicorn 14:59 didn't even get a move 15:02 {Demo} directional yes 15:02 <{Demo}> colored, directional light 15:02 How would colour work though? 15:03 The glyphs are abstract representations 15:03 To a very large degree 15:03 <{Demo}> gee that jackal sure looks red in this lighting 15:03 <{Demo}> yeah true 15:03 It's a struggle, I wanted to do multi-tile monsters 15:04 But then the tiles aren't actually monsters they just have a label that tells you what monster is there 15:04 <{Demo}> ah 15:04 Which is why I'm going to focus on save/load and roles/combat 15:04 Before more dungeon mechanics 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] klintos (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:525 15:04 <{Demo}> what does the save system look like? 15:04 I 100% want moving entities though, swinging blade traps, moving platforms 15:05 Structured file, not memory dump 15:05 <{Demo}> good 15:05 Same order as loading shoul dbe 15:05 <{Demo}> make sure the structure isn't dumb 15:05 Every d7 elements there is a gap 15:05 :hmm: 15:07 <{Demo}> how hard would it be to make a nethack save file that lead to arbitrary code execution? 15:08 Depends what you allow in it 15:08 <{Demo}> vanilla 15:08 Not sure, honestly. 15:08 I am not sure if embedding some scripting language in level files is a terrible idea or not 15:09 <{Demo}> level files might not be the best solution 15:10 The current level files are already "scriptable" to some degree 15:10 there are probably lots of edge cases in the loading of a save file that could lead to arbitrary code execution. I don't think you even need to resort to level files 15:10 So formalising that 15:10 <{Demo}> bhaak that thought is unrelated 15:10 bhaak sorry I context switched entirely 15:10 bhaak I meant entirely independently adding scripting to level files 15:10 like calling out to another script interpreter? 15:11 Embedding a script interpreter in the game binary 15:11 or just like adding a, let's say lua interpreter to the game? 15:11 <{Demo}> I'm still confused why no one has built a UI for building vanilla levels 15:11 That can execute the scripts in the level files 15:12 {Demo} I started and got distracted! 15:12 {Demo} I should probably do it in "website", cross-platform is really annoying 15:12 <{Demo}> yeah if you do it in anything but a website, wtf 15:12 {Demo}: one of the 2 level DSLs is quite visual already. 15:12 bhaak yeah interpreter to the game 15:13 <{Demo}> what's that bhaak 15:13 bubbles_nhww: given how the level compiler developped, this would be the next sensible step. no longer needing the compiler but always load the files on the fly. 15:13 <{Demo}> I have this weird idea for a nethack community code free modding platform 15:14 bhaak aye, exactly 15:14 {Demo} that would be a product of allowing scripting in the levels 15:15 If you could script an entire branch it would be pretty amazing 15:15 Wouldn't be able to add new monsters/objects, but special rules should be doable 15:15 Depending on how much of the game internals are exposed via a script API 15:15 {Demo}: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6/dat/knox.des#L6 15:16 {Demo}: that's already quite visual. probably nobody so far bothered with an ASCII editor for levels, although the Dudley comic is somewhat related conceptually 15:17 I think {Demo} wants to be able to "draw" the barracks area 15:17 For example, the explicit coords 15:17 <{Demo}> I want a webui 15:18 {Demo} agreed 15:18 <{Demo}> for nethack modifications 15:18 <{Demo}> and then I want to open that up as a platform 15:18 bubbles_nhww: Angband has moddable monsters/objects. but given how special cased monsters in nethack are, being able to do that would not be as useful as one would like it to be. 15:18 <{Demo}> where people can host their modifications 15:18 bhaak agreed, wouldn't aim for that 15:18 {Demo}: Pretty sure they have web UI for editing code these days. It's terrible, but it exists. 15:18 <{Demo}> no code editing 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh343] Nobbs (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 272609 points, T:30152, killed by a black pudding 15:18 <{Demo}> no code allowed 15:19 yeah, I often could have used a 'give me the coordinates' of that position. 15:19 .des files count as code, IMO 15:19 <{Demo}> only a ui for modifying certain files in limited ways 15:19 <{Demo}> they see no des, they see an abstraction of it 15:19 .des files are code 15:19 <{Demo}> and they modify it through abstractions 15:19 {Demo} sure, but what about the if 50% directives, for example? 15:19 <{Demo}> and that generates a des 15:19 <{Demo}> add item to level button 15:20 <{Demo}> you have some options, one of them is to set a percent chance of the item 15:20 I agree a visual editor that abstracts that away is good 15:20 I actually kind of want to make a UI for editing .des files 15:20 Andrio we all do \o/ 15:20 mm 15:20 Where is the hero memory actually stored? 15:20 The level 1bit for it 15:21 <{Demo}> I want a whole platform for codeless nethack variants 15:21 <{Demo}> but it also facilities sharing 15:21 bubbles_nhww: You don't wanna know. 15:21 <{Demo}> so you can publish mods and if you want to work someone else's into your own, you just click on it 15:21 jonadab is it just the level stored glyph? 15:21 {Demo} I think without code they would "just" be levels though? 15:22 e.g. https://github.com/Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/dnethack/blob/415cd469cf1342f5f46a28ac5f47ea08c72d8095/dnethack-3.4.3/src/mkmaze.c#L2041 ? 15:22 bubbles_nhww: No, at least it isn't there. 15:22 Ooh bubbles died 15:22 [hdf-eu] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:23585 15:22 Actually, I think I only even know the answer for Nitro-derived variants. 15:22 heheh 15:22 Memory remembers terrain and objects only right? 15:22 And technically only remembers the top item of a stack 15:23 It only remembers the glyph, I believe. 15:23 Ahh 15:23 So you can't farlook for your lost candelabrae :-( 15:23 So if there's an object, I think it doesn't know the terrain. 15:23 Or, rather, doesn't know if you remember the terrain as different from what it actually is. 15:23 Ok that's pretty simple to implement then, can make it different later if it is useful 15:24 IIRC, the code assumes that if you remember the tile, you know certain things, even though technically they can have changed. 15:24 -!- bubbles_nh has joined #hardfought 15:25 I know for certain that hilight_object_piles and friends assume that. 15:25 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed AntiVirus' ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:8750 15:25 damn you and sting, antivirus 15:25 i'll take the 3 magic lamps i suppose 15:26 are they magic? 15:27 argh.. i'm so stupid. i just uncursed entire stack of water thinking i was blessing with my only holy water 15:27 :x 15:27 was going to wish for eye and gtfo of there 15:27 [hdf-eu] [nh363] mosen (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:16185 15:29 wohoo, WoW dropped by a mimic in a large armor shop :d 15:29 hah! 15:29 \o/ 15:29 that's awesome! 15:29 niiice 15:29 I'll take that as an opportunity to make a break :p My hands are shaky. lol 15:30 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed eye of the aethiopica", on T:9114 15:30 now do i try for dragonbane despite 2 artifacts (sting grumble grumlbe) 15:32 -!- bug_sniper has joined #hardfought 15:32 i gues he only had 1 magic lamp anyway 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh13d] CALLOUS (Wiz Mal), 50 points, T:67, leprechaun 15:33 heck yeah go for it 15:33 and wish for +5 15:34 [hdf-eu] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) genocided class L, on T:24461 15:34 -!- jonathanhanes has joined #hardfought 15:34 i should have wished for it... 15:35 although i really wanted eye. but the other 2 lamps were oil i guess. i forgot i had gotten zombie'd and lamps were just lamps 15:35 i will try for it if i get another wish before another artifact... 2/3 chance is worth it 15:36 <{Demo}> how to prepare for tnnt? 15:36 drink 15:36 heavily 15:36 he was getting reflection for something... i suppose i can look at the dumlog 15:36 k2: haha drink 15:36 :) 15:36 <{Demo}> wait nvm I already figured out how to 15:36 i haven't even played the beta. will i be ok ? 15:36 yeah 15:36 <{Demo}> but it would be against the rules I think 15:36 its vanilla with a couple extra side quests 15:36 <{Demo}> cause it's technically sort of botting 15:36 and a LOT of achievements and conducts 15:37 <{Demo}> so I didn't do it 15:37 <{Demo}> also I was lazy 15:37 cool. so like an improved version of last year? 15:37 {Demo} yeah dont bot tnnt 15:37 rebatela si 15:37 <{Demo}> it was more startscum botting 15:37 <{Demo}> but with templates that match achieves 15:37 <{Demo}> so u can just start ur achieve definition pipeline and then go to sleep 15:38 <{Demo}> so it'll follow that definition(key inputs and conditions to check for) until it is done and then move onto the next 15:39 <{Demo}> the definitions, in this great hypothetical idea can be composed of other definitions 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:22765 15:39 <{Demo}> (most definitions would start with a definition that puts them into a wish prompt) 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] Merlek (Bar Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:50723 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh363] Merlek (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:50724 15:40 <{Demo}> actually this system is bad 15:40 <{Demo}> because if you do it as a pipeline like that you could throw away a situation that would be really useful in the next item in the pipeline and hard to get, but useless in the current 15:41 <{Demo}> idk, it would be cool to build an advanced start scumming framework one day 15:42 oh wow... in minetown i'm in small general store with gnome shopkeep and a couple zombies stroll in... I decide to let them fight 15:42 the shopkeeper aroze as Kabalebo the gnome zombie and then a watchman killed him and i got his loot ! 15:43 ettin zombies are no joke 15:44 <{Demo}> wow 15:44 but dammit now i can't price id 15:44 <{Demo}> sounds horrific 15:45 hah 15:45 love that dynamic 15:46 <{Demo}> sounds like a Halloween special 15:48 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2325 points, T:3585, killed by a dwarf 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:10068 15:53 yani: putting oil in the magic lantern should kill the genie for purposes of genocide and lists of killed monsters 15:53 or magic lamp, whatever 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh363] Merlek (Bar Hum Mal Cha) genocided class P, on T:52219 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh363] Merlek (Bar Hum Mal Cha) genocided class c, on T:52220 15:56 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:56 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Chris_ANG] by ChanServ 15:56 <{Demo}> I have a great idea 15:57 <{Demo}> actually nevermind 15:57 does the idea involve shoes? 15:58 <{Demo}> no its even stupider 16:00 does it involve yak traks 16:00 LarienTelrunya: ^ 16:01 ? never heard of that, is that the track that a yak makes in the snow/mud? 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:10773 16:01 no markers 16:02 oh well.. no enchant armor scrolls anyway. who cares 16:02 LarienTelrunya: they're rubber gear that goes over the sole of your shoe and has little metal nubs along the bottom for walking on ice 16:02 (not spikes. those are micro spikes, which are the same but more hardcore) 16:03 ah, do the spikes feel wonderful if a woman steps on one's fingers with them? ♥ 16:03 they probably feel like broken fingers 16:03 so no 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh363] klintos (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:6033 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:23712 16:05 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 speed boots", on T:23716 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:23722 16:06 i can still put a bunch of scrolls in a sack and throw them into say, an armor shop right? 16:07 price id/steal back with pet? i tried that once with potions... 16:07 buy price id only 16:07 don't see why not 16:07 but yes 16:07 yah don't do it with potions or glass :P 16:08 if you only want to id the scroll of identify, just throw in your one most common scroll 16:08 yes i learned my lesson that time ;) 16:08 yeah.. i have id id'd 16:08 i try not to use id scrolls 16:09 i like having blank paper to polypile and id scrolls are a great source of paper (this game still has the spell....) 16:09 [hdf-eu] [nh363] Raisse (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 81482 points, T:24066, killed by a troll, while reading a book 16:09 but i do need to figure out the $80 scrolls 16:09 gah, I hope that that left bones 16:09 (but that won't have all my really good spellbooks, because they're in a chest on level 2) 16:09 that sucks raisse 16:10 it wasn't in sight when I started reading but it was a very hard book (turned out to be create familiar) and it paralysed me for a while 16:11 80 is weapon! 16:11 Or unlabled 16:11 No? 16:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:19309 16:11 80 base price i meant 16:11 Unless your charisma is poop or amazing 16:11 or someone changed the prices 16:12 80 is remove curse or enchant armor, enchant weapon is 60 16:12 i convert to base price and figure out the scrolls in my head 16:12 but with markup they can all be 80 or 107, and the 80 scrolls even 142 16:12 yes, they would be selling enchant weapon at 80 if you have 8-10 cha, but i don't think about it that way 16:13 especially since in eh, it's all crazy depending on the race of the shopkeep 16:13 Ah I always go with cha10 16:13 eh is evil :( 16:13 mindflayers ask thousands of dollars for scrolls 16:13 cha10 80, 106 is remove curse/fire/enchant armor? 16:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (mind flayer), on T:5149 16:13 Can't remember 16:13 raisee kjust explained it pretty well 16:14 you need to know whether the shopkeep is taxing you or not too 16:14 evilhack should also just add a layer of base price fuzzing 16:14 it's easier to figure out what they are BUYING stuff for (how badly they are ripping you off) 16:15 for example, i will try to sell a healing potion and if they offer me 25 for it... then I try to sell something and they offer 50, obviously it's 200 16:15 spellbooks that you know the level of are good to use 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:41304 16:16 i don't feel like dealing with big room... so nice having the eye at least... i can dig down, go back up. jet if i have to. no getting stuck 16:17 still don't have a blinding tool or unihorn. ugh 16:17 ha soon as i said that i killed a uni 16:17 <@Umby> gj 16:18 <@Umby> and hello people 16:19 speaking of mindflayer shops.. here we go lol. scared me for a sec 16:22 scroll of identify 270 dollars 16:22 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:4871 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Sam Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:24246 16:23 and one scroll for 800 and same type for 1070, so that's gotta be EW 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh363] klintos (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4215 points, T:6586, killed by a troll 16:25 un be lievable 16:26 500 turns on one troll 16:26 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 310 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:41999 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh363] Hekik (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 50 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:48123 16:33 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:12804 16:33 what can I say, I'm a cheapskate 16:33 fun fun 16:33 also rip in pieces, rebatela's bag 16:33 devteam should really tweak those bribe prices 16:34 where can I upload a ttyrecord to? 16:34 fortunately the player monster i just killed had another boh 16:34 but i lost all my holy water etc. fuck 16:34 bubbles_nh where was the ttyrec made? your local machine or on hardfought? 16:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mon Swn Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:20841 16:35 Local machine 16:35 compress it and email it to admin@hardfought.org i can link it 16:36 Ah it's not that important it was just testing the vision stuff I'm implementing but many thanks!!! 16:36 o/ 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) bribed Baalzebub with 162 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:43022 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh363] Bartlem (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 984 points, T:2339, killed by a dwarf 16:42 <{Demo}> bubbles just upload it to 0x0.st or something similar 16:43 [hdf-us] [nh363] klintos (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 647 points, T:2720, killed by a giant bat 16:44 i bet i own the evil hack record for bohs expldoed 16:44 exploded* 16:44 * rebatela bows 16:44 the magicbane one at the castle deep into the game kinda pissed me off.. this one was my own dumb fault 16:48 -!- Cevn_ has joined #hardfought 16:49 now i just need a bones level with hundreds of potions and no artifacts 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh363] klintos (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 626 points, T:878, killed by a hobbit 16:51 I don't know how to play 16:52 [hdf-eu] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:27680 16:52 [hdf-eu] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27680 16:52 https://asciinema.org/a/sOhkqaxVrlrOz0Bf6O8pcU70l 16:52 The colours are all broken 16:52 But! 16:53 <@Umby> something something "pinball wizard quip" 16:53 The two-level lighting is in effect 16:53 ACtually that entire recording is pretty broken :-\ 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:13018 16:54 d'oh 16:54 ok time to quit 16:54 aw 16:57 [hdf-eu] [nh363] joes (Sam Hum Fem Law), 3030 points, T:3306, killed by a poisonous corpse 16:57 <{Demo}> looks neat 16:58 asciinema killed the glyphs 16:59 stenno: i'm just kidding. i have 2 tamed warhorses, magic resistance. decent ac for not wearing body armor and not finding EA scroll.. I just have no potions. I don't care so much about the weaponless conduct 16:59 alright, fair 16:59 but i found like 15 potions of water in antivirus's bones... KABOOM! 16:59 still better than losing everything like in vanilla 16:59 I need more colours 17:00 drop some acid 17:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:25696 17:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] jonathanhanes (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25703 17:00 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7329 17:00 [hdf-us] [nh363] cadaver (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1488 points, T:3082, killed by a death ray 17:00 no bisection this time 17:01 ouch 17:01 early death wand 17:01 !lastgame cadaver 17:01 jonathanhanes: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/c/cadaver/nethack/dumplog/1572533695.nh.html 17:01 jonathanhanes: No last game for cadaver. 17:01 oh it was his own death wand too 17:03 !ping 17:03 jonathanhanes: Pong! 17:03 jonathanhanes: Pong! 17:03 croesusbot what are you doing here? >.> 17:03 "drop some acid" 17:04 that's the best advice I've ever seen you give on here k2 17:04 * jonathanhanes quaffs a potion of hallucination 17:05 <@Umby> Using a death ray on a ghost 17:05 Croesus will feed death/asc messages as well as trophy/achievement messages here and in #nethack 17:05 <@Umby> Wew lad 17:05 no livelogs tho, thats all in #tnnt 17:05 <@Umby> On top of it bouncing and hitting him 17:05 #tnnt gets it all 17:06 omg cadaver... 17:06 oh sweet the npc boh was pre-blessed 17:06 stupid sexy #tnnt 17:07 7 hours until start eh 17:07 OMG 17:07 i mean i _do_ have vacation day tomorrow 17:07 \o/ 17:08 I'm actually taking tomorrow off to hack more 17:08 and because I want a day off 17:08 sweet 17:08 And my kids have some little award ceremony at their school 17:08 tomorrow is my wedding anniversary so i actually wont be around much a good part of nov 1st or 2nd 17:08 but the real reason is nethack ;) 17:09 but i will be here for the first few hours of go time 17:12 planning on ascending this evil game just as the tournament begins 17:12 minor set back with the ol' bag, but we'll be ok 17:13 at least i've id'd the cancel wand ! 17:14 rebatela: so it'll be at least another month until you finally play slex? 17:14 [hdf-us] [evil] AntiVirus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2070 17:15 man, antivirus has a great config https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/AntiVirus/evilhack/AntiVirus.evilrc 17:16 <@luxidream> like many great configs, it was probably stolen from someone else 17:16 <@luxidream> I know I did :p 17:16