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Postby Suck. » Jan 5th, 2006 at 1:08 am

I appologize for bitching and moaning in a pointless, unproductive rant. I've been uber busy with life recently, and haven't had much time to play. Somehow, I thought that the game would have changed during my brief hiatus, but that's just unrealistic, and I was just venting my frustration. To be honest, I never liked the HF BF2 #2 that much for the same reasons. :roll: No hard feelings... the PORN guys were always some of the best competition while HF ran the server.


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Postby |PoRn| Profess0r » Jan 5th, 2006 at 1:21 am

None of us even have admin. We were hoping to have the orginal admins playing in the server, but it doesn't look that like is going to work out. What do you want us to do? Even teams are on, so I don't see how you are saying it's 9 vs 11. Granted PoRn does try to play together for alittle while, but hell we did that before. Now that we helped out it's nothing but bitching. The very reason why I chose not to have admin. My short temper and heavy punt finger noone would ever play. Anyhow.. Suck please, instead of bitching how about post some ways to solve the problems. What PoRn can't play on the same team? lol FTW!

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Postby |PoRn|-EcKs- » Jan 5th, 2006 at 1:26 am

Once again, We dont run the server. We sponsor it, as in pay for the damn thing. Thats it, I have given every admin (that requests it) from HF admin rights to this server.

As for teams being stacked, and we have all talked it over (PoRn Members). If the room has less than 18 people in it then we will split up. Otherwise its rare to find more than 4 of us on at one time and I personally dont feel that that is stacking teams. In short if we got 4 of our clan members on and the room is full. That means that we have one working squad and 8 lonewolfs on our side.

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Postby Catalyst22 » Jan 5th, 2006 at 1:29 am

I have no problem with team stacking. The fun of the game then switches to trying to figure out how to work your way out, organize your team, and fight back. That is just as much fun for me as winning. Then again I play almost every night and am die hard into BF2 unlike most of the people who play off and on :(
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Postby Suck. » Jan 5th, 2006 at 1:46 am

Sorry about my above flame. I've "fixed" the post. ;)


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Postby Catalyst22 » Jan 5th, 2006 at 2:18 am

I'll admit that it would suck getting beat down by an entire clan if you don't play on the server much. However, most of the peeps on that server are regulars and tend to work well together. Tonight wasn't one of those times.

We need to get a dedicated BF2 Ventrilo channel for HF. The Porn guys have one and my guys have one, but my guys fill their 50 man vent server all the time due to WoW bullshit and Porn has alot of people already on theirs as it is so I don't know about their max capacity.

I could just put up the Teamspeak server again if people will start using it (nobody ever used the old one). I can accomodate about 40 or so people on my work bandwidth.
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Postby |PoRn|-EcKs- » Jan 5th, 2006 at 4:28 pm

We have a 24 man Teamspeak Channel that comes with the Server. You are all welcome to use it.


IP: 72.36.157.4:12807
PW: 12345

http://www.teamspeak.org to get TS2
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Postby I Want Some Taquitos » Jan 5th, 2006 at 5:15 pm

I think that it's fine. If they are all together, you gotta THINK and try to counteract them. So you might not win the round for your team, just concentrate on how they act and eventually you will see habits. For example, after repeated experimentation (read: get my ass handed to me)...NEVER follow a PoRn guy around a corner, cause guess what, he's not running away, he's just reloading...
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Postby CyberPitz » Jan 6th, 2006 at 3:59 pm

I know I'll be using that teamspeak server...so get on if you're gonna be playin BF2 ^_^

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Postby Catalyst22 » Jan 6th, 2006 at 5:04 pm

I Want Some Taquitos wrote:I think that it's fine. If they are all together, you gotta THINK and try to counteract them. So you might not win the round for your team, just concentrate on how they act and eventually you will see habits. For example, after repeated experimentation (read: get my ass handed to me)...NEVER follow a PoRn guy around a corner, cause guess what, he's not running away, he's just reloading...



ROFLOL or planting a claymore
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Postby Catalyst22 » Jan 6th, 2006 at 5:05 pm

|PoRn|-EcKs- wrote:We have a 24 man Teamspeak Channel that comes with the Server. You are all welcome to use it.


IP: 72.36.157.4:12807
PW: 12345

http://www.teamspeak.org to get TS2


You should put that in the MOTD on the 24 man server. Would be a great way to get more regs.
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Postby |PoRn|-EcKs- » Jan 6th, 2006 at 6:51 pm

Its in the auto message now. Hopefully, like you said it will draw some more Regs.
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Postby Servo » Jan 6th, 2006 at 8:55 pm

I haven't played BF2 in a while, but if the server really is being populated by a lot of regs, and there is actual team work hapening, then I will try to stop by tonight or tomorrow.
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Postby CyberPitz » Jan 8th, 2006 at 5:33 pm

The server seems to be doing pretty good, though I can't sit and play it for too long. Those 16 player sized maps just get old really fast :(

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Postby |PoRn|DarkAnge| » Jan 9th, 2006 at 12:47 pm

add some sugestions then!

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Postby K2 » Jan 9th, 2006 at 1:01 pm

|PoRn|DarkAnge| wrote:add some sugestions then!


LOL... welcome to what used to be my world PoRn ;)

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Postby CyberPitz » Jan 10th, 2006 at 1:07 am

K2 wrote:
|PoRn|DarkAnge| wrote:add some sugestions then!


LOL... welcome to what used to be my world PoRn ;)


haha, he's got a point. We would constanty bitch and moan about what could be done with the server to make it more fun. But in the end, everybody would bitch about different things..and yeah.

The only thing I want is 32 player maps.
that costs more money though, so I don't really need it.

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Postby Oreo » Jan 10th, 2006 at 2:56 am

I went to the server on a whim as I have played BF2 for 20 hours within the last 48 hours (15 hours straight saturday evening to sunday evening) and wanted to try out the HF server. After 10 minutes of playing I left and deleted the server from my favorites for good, here's why:

-Strike at karkand, hello.... ever play any other map? It's been on that EVERYTIME I have checked the player count the last few days.

-A clan stacking the opposite team. When I joined the other team had 8 clan members on it with a score of 190-10. When I asked for the teams to be balanced, 4 people replied and said stop bitching go play somewhere else if you don't like it.

-Overall rude players on my team and in the chat screen.

-Very sore lack of teamplay when I joined a squad. One guy actually said, "let's camp on this building and wait till something happens. We can all be snipers it will be cool."

-24 player maps on a game built for large number of players. I mostly frequent 32 players for medium sized maps. The 64 player servers seemed a little cluttered. As a response to pitz, more players is not more money. If I am not mistaken, BF2 is still run on a server box system, not through a game server company. They have complete control over all server settings, including player count. Higher counts *may* be more taxing on the CPU, but I believe 32 over 24 on BF2 isn't a huge difference, it's not like CS.

-No fun. I just didn't have the fun within those 10 minutes that I get from other servers. I currently play the *most* on [GoP] Ranked server which is in Seattle I believe, and on Reefermaniacs, which I believe is in either seattle or los angelas.

Anyway, I hope these cons can help you better the server in some way.

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Postby Catalyst22 » Jan 10th, 2006 at 3:14 am

I think the server is not on a dedicated box anymore. I'm pretty sure its a single game that Porn pays for.

Karkand isn't the only map. Its just that there aren't that many urban maps to choose from so Karkand gets alot of play. 16 player maps with 24 players goes very fast. The maps rotate about every 30 minutes or less (typically 15 minutes or less per round).

I have got a little burned out on 16 player maps also, but I don't like choppers anymore. I like the infantry/mech combo and not many of the 32 player maps can pull it off with the same intensity of the 16 player. If I want to be real competitive I play 16 player. If I want to have some fun and I have a squad on vent to work with then I will play 32+ maps.

As far as people on the server being "unfriendly"... I dunno, you have to play on there enough to know who is who then it doesn't seem that way. Imagine playing on the HF CS server without knowing anyone. If certain admins are on, you would prob think that the community was rude on there as well, but maybe not.

I like the clan stacking on the BF2 server even if I'm on the side that is being stacked against. I like to fight with and against Porn, HF regs, and LM. I see one of the big problems with the server is that we don't have enough clans making HF their home. I would like to see more clans on the server at the same time, but that is difficult on a server that is full so often.

Perhaps we should work with a coulple of the existing clans to setup some kind of "work release" program where we will make room for clans so that there is more balance in regards to team play. I don't know how well this would work. Also, we need to hit the BF2 forums and invite clans out to compete there. When the right people are on, its the toughest competition in BF2 anymore I've played.
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Postby |PoRn|-EcKs- » Jan 10th, 2006 at 3:52 am

Oreo wrote:I went to the server on a whim as I have played BF2 for 20 hours within the last 48 hours (15 hours straight saturday evening to sunday evening) and wanted to try out the HF server. After 10 minutes of playing I left and deleted the server from my favorites for good, here's why:


10mins on any server isnt enough to tell if it will be good or not. Give it another shot, who knows you might like it better when we are all on it.

Oreo wrote:-Strike at karkand, hello.... ever play any other map? It's been on that EVERYTIME I have checked the player count the last few days.


Maps rotate in groups of 3. So its just that you have caught it at that karkand rotation everytime.

Strike at Karkand
Sharqi Pinnisula
Mastuur City
Gulf of Oman

Oreo wrote:-A clan stacking the opposite team. When I joined the other team had 8 clan members on it with a score of 190-10. When I asked for the teams to be balanced, 4 people replied and said stop bitching go play somewhere else if you don't like it.


Tickets start at 100! Make a squad pick the guys that are doing something on your side and invite them. I guarantee that there are at least 2 or 3 guys out of 12, that want to win and work as a squad.

Oreo wrote:-Overall rude players on my team and in the chat screen.


Rude players are everywhere but i just ignore that shit.

Oreo wrote:-Very sore lack of teamplay when I joined a squad. One guy actually said, "let's camp on this building and wait till something happens. We can all be snipers it will be cool."

-24 player maps on a game built for large number of players. I mostly frequent 32 players for medium sized maps. The 64 player servers seemed a little cluttered. As a response to pitz, more players is not more money. If I am not mistaken, BF2 is still run on a server box system, not through a game server company. They have complete control over all server settings, including player count. Higher counts *may* be more taxing on the CPU, but I believe 32 over 24 on BF2 isn't a huge difference, it's not like CS.


In this case it is run by a gaming host and it would cost more money per player slot. But thats not why we have it set at 24 players. We all (and the other regulars) started playing on the OG HF server cause of its size and map rotation. So we thought it would be best to keep it this way.

Oreo wrote:-No fun. I just didn't have the fun within those 10 minutes that I get from other servers. I currently play the *most* on [GoP] Ranked server which is in Seattle I believe, and on Reefermaniacs, which I believe is in either seattle or los angelas.


Server is located in Texas

Oreo wrote:-Anyway, I hope these cons can help you better the server in some way.


What exactly are you suggesting?
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Postby CyberPitz » Jan 10th, 2006 at 4:21 am

More players? :P

Again, welcome to K2's shoes ;)

I usually frequent TeamHAF.com or some random 32 player server if needed.....

Just saying.

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Postby |PoRn|-Wo|f » Jan 10th, 2006 at 4:55 am

just ignore him. u cant constructively critique a server, or most things for that matter, after 10 minutes. besides the guy was halucinating i think after so many hours of play...190 count...nice...i wonder about some of the other stuff he said.
this is what i have to say about no team work: THE TS INFO is right there. pls feel free to use it. VOIP is active too. so pls dont say there cant be team work. i mean i thought its obvious but aparently not for some - admins cant control players gameplay. the admins can kick or ban someone for being an asshat not his/hers gamestyle. so why btch about it in public forums and diss the server for no reason (from you everything is not valid...10 minutes u said it yourself.)

if you do win against a better team skillwise by organising something, even as simple as one wroking squad, not even saying two - it feels good. even if its one out of 3 or 5. so why consentrate on btching instead of playing. only helps the other team imho.

When i get tired of the maps i go play SF or 32 player maps. i mean u dont have to play 20 hours staright the same maps. and heres an idea how about playing a diferent class to keep it interesting? you'll have to do other stuff then the class u used to play with. or is noobtube the only thing u know how to operate. dont forget that carot with your hop if ur one of them.
other then that X said it all.

As for sudgestions...well from the maps i like mash sity the least, so what do you think about rotating diferent maps including mash city every week or few days. EXCEPT ZAATAR WETLAND. Defenetly the worst map ever for 16 player gamestyle.

i.e.
Kark...
Sharqi...
Gulf...
Fushi pass

then a few days ltr. fushi pass changes to Oilfields and then to mash sity...then to dailant plat etc...
what do u think guys?

as for other clans, well, the cobra guys are becoming regulars for now and they are pretty good.
if you build it they will come. hahaha :lol:

peace,
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Postby EatMoreLead » Jan 10th, 2006 at 8:41 am

Oreo wrote:
-A clan stacking the opposite team. When I joined the other team had 8 clan members on it with a score of 190-10. When I asked for the teams to be balanced, 4 people replied and said stop bitching go play somewhere else if you don't like it.


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Postby Kahuna Mas » Jan 10th, 2006 at 10:09 am

Here's my critique.

1. I personally love the 16 player maps. Lots of action and the ticket level keeps the action moving incase there is a side advantage.

2. Helicopters and Jets are the BF2 version of the awp whore. Period. Can't stand em, glad they aren't in great supply here.

3. Playing a semi-full 16 player map is much more tolerable than a half full 24 or 32 map. Those maps half full are nothing but 4 guys in helicopters and jets dueling it out while I get nuked within 30 seconds of spawn. In those cases, it doesn't even matter what class you are.

4. I would like to see some additional 16 player maps. Urban is full of action but even with 3 round map rotations, it doesn't take long before things get repetitive. I don't know enough map names for a suggestion, but I feel pretty good about anything with 16 players.

5. Selfishly, I love the fact that the server is not always full. For the first time since launch I have pretty much been able to play every time I wanted.

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Postby |PoRn|DarkAnge| » Jan 10th, 2006 at 12:35 pm

Team Stacking cannot always be helped nor is it a fault on porn or the server it's self.

Yes we all benefit from better games when teams are evenly matched but what are we to do? Have admins move players around every round? Impossible. As always most people are quick to blame everyone else except themselves. If you play as a team member it's amazing how the masses follow suite; sometimes this may take several rounds.

32 player maps: never...more peeps on the sever...a possibility. We'll see how donations work out. :shock:


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