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Big Brother is Watching

Postby rekloose-[PUPPY] » Nov 8th, 2007 at 8:40 am

Glad Bush & Co are here to make me feel safer ...

"AT&T gave feds access to all Web, phone traffic, ex-tech says"
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/p ... erheadline

"This splitter was sweeping up everything, vacuum-cleaner-style," he said. "The NSA is getting everything. These are major pipes that carry not just AT&T's customers but everybody's."

"I flipped out," he said. "They're copying the whole Internet. There's no selection going on here. Maybe they select out later, but at the point of handoff to the government, they get everything."

Klein said he went public after President Bush defended the NSA's surveillance program as limited to collecting phone calls between suspected terrorists overseas and people in the United States. Klein said the documents show that the scope was much broader.

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Postby Phoenix » Nov 8th, 2007 at 9:06 am

I want to be surprised, but I'm not.
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Postby G$ » Nov 8th, 2007 at 10:45 am

Copying the whole internet?

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Postby carnage » Nov 8th, 2007 at 12:32 pm

G$ wrote:Copying the whole internet?


Can Al Gore sue for infringement?

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Postby EatMoreLead » Nov 8th, 2007 at 8:38 pm

it is pretty pathetic that we have given up all our civil rights to privacy via patriot act.
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Postby Mouser » Nov 9th, 2007 at 1:40 am

EatMoreLead wrote:it is pretty pathetic that we have given up all our civil rights to privacy via patriot act.


First time I have ever agreed whole-heartedly with EML.

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Postby Miracl3 » Nov 9th, 2007 at 6:09 am

the govt thinks we're more satisfied after patriot act, but i felt more like i had freedom before the act and 9/11

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Postby Maverick » Nov 9th, 2007 at 7:53 am

EatMoreLead wrote:it is pretty pathetic that we have given up all our civil rights to privacy via patriot act.


I agree with you entirely EML. But don't think this is just an isolated incident or the first time they've done this. As far back as the WW-era and even more so during Vietnam-war era, patriotism was used to front ulterior motives or to skirt around rights and laws.

They are always "hunting" for someone be it terrorists or commies or nazis etc. Fear is a powerful tool.

It would help if some of the voting zombies would distinguish flag-waving from policy-making. The same goes for separation of church and state, but that's entirely another bag of it's own.

That's why so much crap like this is able to pass. EML since you are local you know about the recent voting they had in Dallas. Such a debacle that was.

End of my ramble.
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Postby Burzum » Nov 9th, 2007 at 7:18 pm

Mouser wrote:
EatMoreLead wrote:it is pretty pathetic that we have given up all our civil rights to privacy via patriot act.


First time I have ever agreed whole-heartedly with EML.


I don't think it's a first time for me...but I seriously agree.
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