EatMoreLead wrote:Be careful of becoming the monster you are trying to slay - if we indefinitely suspend our laws and trample our civil rights just to fight terrorism, then terorism has already won. What makes us the "good guys" anyway? Because we have more money? Because we have better military? Or is it possibly because we value democratic systems, free speech, and civil rights? Some of you flag-waving, gun-toting, "kill em all" asshats need to remember the concepts our country was founded upon and a little document called the constitution. It is the only thing that gives us superioor moral ground, and if you toss the constitution out, you are no better than the enemy.
Our country was founded on bloodshed to protect the innocents (or at least in an attempt to)
The Civil War was bloodshed in order to protect the innocents (or at least an attempt to)
Might want to ask the Polish and German Jews what they felt about our tactics.
I think it is time to wake up and realize that this world is not the magical world of make-believe where we can simply lay down and allow someone to take power in hopes they will change their mind and leave.
These people believe in violence and support all actions of it. These people are willing to kill themselves in order to kill others. There is no room for comprimise in this type of logic. Responding with non-violent behavior will not change their mind given that violence is in their core set of beliefs.
Interestingly enough we had a situation similar to this in WWII. I am surprised you still choose to be a US citizen knowing we dropped 2 nukes on innocents in Japan. But you still live in freedom now partly because we did that. What is your feeling there?
I for one would love to find a peaceful solution to this, but am having a hard time finding it. At the end of the day however, we MUST find a solution... even if it is not the BEST solution.
The worst thing than a bad decisionmaker is NO decision maker. I challenge any naysayer to change thier stance and instead of pointing out the problems, begin pointing out the solutions.