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Missile launch NOT imminent

Postby Jahiliyya » Jul 11th, 2006 at 2:09 pm

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Postby Nad » Jul 11th, 2006 at 2:35 pm

i say let em go for it, it sill save us a boatload of trouble. My only concern is that the japs wipe south korea off the map in the process.
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Postby rekloose-[PUPPY] » Jul 11th, 2006 at 2:39 pm

Japan attacking N Korea = a catalyst for a major international conflict dragging in China, Russia, the USA, Europe.

Also, NKorea = nukes. Japan != nukes. Kim Jong Il = nutjob. Missile attack on N. Korea = retalation attacks on S. Korea and Japan -> USA gets dragged into it.

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Postby Nad » Jul 11th, 2006 at 2:45 pm

we're going to be dragged into it no matter what. Kim Jong is a person that cannot be reasoned with, and its only a matter of time. So why not let someone else send their troops in first for a change? I mean, in most of the worlds largest conflicts, the nation that goes in first loses the most troops, why should it always be the good ole US of A
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Postby Shade » Jul 11th, 2006 at 3:30 pm

Just send TEAM AMERICA. Fuck yah!
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Postby Burzum » Jul 11th, 2006 at 3:47 pm

I just hope the US can hold up to a new world war with our forces being depleted in Iraq.
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Postby Miracl3 » Jul 11th, 2006 at 4:11 pm

Well If anythin major does happen, I'd enlist. I'll grab my uncles sks with 60 round banana clip and bring my smith & wesson 357 rofl and just create my own WW3 army not afilliated with the govt. How many of u hf'er got guns? lol just playing....or am i? hmmm
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Postby Jahiliyya » Jul 11th, 2006 at 4:12 pm

Burzum wrote:I just hope the US can hold up to a new world war with our forces being depleted in Iraq.


world war?

I think you're confused.
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Postby Nad » Jul 11th, 2006 at 4:40 pm

nah Jah, if japan goes in at North Korea, then other countries that don't like japan will jump in, forcing the US and our allies to throw our hands in the pot. Hence WW3.
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Postby cLueRFTF » Jul 11th, 2006 at 4:56 pm

Shade wrote:Just send TEAM AMERICA. Fuck yah!


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Postby Shade » Jul 11th, 2006 at 5:06 pm

cLueRFTF wrote:
Shade wrote:Just send TEAM AMERICA. Fuck yah!


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Postby Phoenix » Jul 11th, 2006 at 6:01 pm

Nad wrote:i say let em go for it, it sill save us a boatload of trouble. My only concern is that the japs wipe south korea off the map in the process.


Do the Japs even have a real military anymore? I thought all we let em have was a few P-51s or somthing.
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Postby Jahiliyya » Jul 11th, 2006 at 6:26 pm

Phoenix wrote:
Nad wrote:i say let em go for it, it sill save us a boatload of trouble. My only concern is that the japs wipe south korea off the map in the process.


Do the Japs even have a real military anymore? I thought all we let em have was a few P-51s or somthing.


Japan's USD $45.8 billion/year budget makes it the sixth largest military spender in the world, after the United States, People's Republic of China, Russia, United Kingdom and France. About 50% of that is spent on the personnel and the rest is split on supplies, new weapons, upgrades, etc.
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Postby Miracl3 » Jul 11th, 2006 at 6:50 pm

NORTH KOREAN MILITARY STATS: Top Stats All Stats

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Variable Amount/description Rank
Air force personnel 85,000 [3rd of 49]
(per capita) 0.371 per 100 population [3rd of 49]
Army personnel 923,000 [2nd of 49]
(per capita) 40.2846 per 1,000 people [1st of 49]
Branches
Korean People's Army (includes Army, Navy, Air Force), Civil Security Forces
Employment in arms production 120,000 [7th of 56]
(per capita) 5,237.43 per 1 million people [6th of 56]
Expenditures > Dollar figure $5,217,400,000.00 [21st of 170]
(per capita) $227.72 per person [31st of 169]
Expenditures > Percent of GDP 33.9 [1st of 165]
Manpower > Availability > Males age 15-49 6,103,620 [46th of 175]
(per capita) 266.394 per 1,000 people [48th of 174]
Manpower > Fit for military service > Males age 15-49 3,654,220 [47th of 174]
(per capita) 159.489 per 1,000 people [99th of 173]
Manpower > Military age 18 [70th of 129]
Manpower > Reaching military age annually > Males 180,875 [47th of 128]
(per capita) 7.89433 per 1,000 people [94th of 127]
Navy personnel 46,000 [9th of 49]
(per capita) 2.00768 per 1,000 people [3rd of 49]
Weapon holdings 17,634,000 [3rd of 139]
(per capita) 769,640 per 1 million people [6th of 137]
WMD > Biological
Although Pyongyang acceded to the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention (BWC) in 1987, North Korea is suspected of having a biological weapons program. Reports indicate that North Korea apparently began to produce biological weapons in the early 1980s. To date, North Korea has likely developed and produced anthrax bacteria, botulinum toxin, and plague bacteria.
WMD > Chemical
North Korea's chemical weapons production capability is estimated to be about 4,500 tons per year, and Pyongyang appears to have emphasized the weaponization of mustard, phosgene, sarin, and V-type chemical agents. Reports indicate that North Korea has some 12 facilities where raw chemicals, precursors, and actual agents are produced and/or stored, and six major storage depots for chemical weapons ordnance. Pyongyang also has placed thousands of artillery systems—including multiple launch rocket systems that are particularly effective for chemical weapons delivery—within reach of the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) and Seoul. North Korea has not signed the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC).
WMD > Missile
North Korea began its missile development program in the 1970s and tested an "indigenous" Scud-B ballistic missile in April 1984. Pyongyang subsequently produced the 500km-range Scud-C, the 800km-range Scud-D, and a 1300km-range missile known as the Nodong. In August 1998, North Korea flight-tested the Paektusan-1 (Taepodong-1) in a failed attempt to place a small satellite into earth orbit. North Korea is continuing to develop the so-called “Taepodong-2,â€
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Postby Jeng » Jul 11th, 2006 at 7:29 pm

all that stuff in previous post above this one


K, sounds like we should just do a nice little pre-emptive strike turning North Korea into a nice and toasty crater, leaving South Korea as an island.
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Postby Miracl3 » Jul 11th, 2006 at 9:21 pm

can anyone gimme the stats on n korea's economy? where does it rank on its poorness?
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Postby K2 » Jul 11th, 2006 at 10:48 pm

For all of N. Korea's impressive military *stats*, it's a military that has very limited resources for any kind of sustainment. The best they could do would be to hit hard and fast, and that's it, they're done. All we'd have to do is 'hold the line' as it were, pound the hell out of their bases, strongholds and supply lines via the air and sea, cut off any existing suppy routes they might have, and just wait 'em out.

I would feel sorry for S. Korea tho, even if the north didnt have nukes (which they have no reliable method of deploying anyways, as seen by their recent missle test). N. Korea has a helluva lot of artilery that can reach out and touch quite a bit of the south.

I'm not so concerned about N. Korea, so much as I am about China backing them. THAT's a force to be reckonned with.

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Postby Burzum » Jul 12th, 2006 at 7:26 am

K2 wrote:I'm not so concerned about N. Korea, so much as I am about China backing them. THAT's a force to be reckonned with.


China is an enemy that could put some serious hurt on the US.
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Postby Campsalot » Jul 12th, 2006 at 10:25 am

I would argue that China is the only force that the US really needs to be worried about... especially since our buddy Clinton sold them technology that helped them with mobile long rang ballistic missles (among other things). Trade > National Security FTW!

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Postby Jahiliyya » Jul 12th, 2006 at 10:56 am

China's growing army is quickly going to out use its reasources if it ever enters into a prolonged engagement. Look for China's first agro moves to be toward the Russian oil fields, not toward the US.
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Postby rekloose-[PUPPY] » Jul 12th, 2006 at 11:11 am

Campsalot wrote:I would argue that China is the only force that the US really needs to be worried about... especially since our buddy Clinton sold them technology that helped them with mobile long rang ballistic missles (among other things). Trade > National Security FTW!


And who gave Saddam biological weapons? Oh, wait, I get it now - it's all Clintons fault :roll:

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Postby WidowMaker » Jul 12th, 2006 at 11:39 am

Last I heard, military analysts were speculating that China does not have the resources/supplies/etc. needed to actually put soldiers on the ground in the US in a substantial way. While they could do damage from a distance, actually landing on US soil would be highly unlikely.


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Postby pyrox420 » Jul 12th, 2006 at 12:39 pm

WidowMaker wrote:While they could do damage from a distance, actually landing on US soil would be highly unlikely.


Your right. K2 would be on the coast kicking the shit out of them before they even get close to land.
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Postby Burzum » Jul 12th, 2006 at 1:00 pm

With Lebanon and Isreal going at it, something is starting to smell. I wouldn't be suprised to wake up one morning to find us in WW3.

If China attacks Russia that would make China an enemy of the US. I'm pretty sure that the full on Arab:Israel conflict will draw in Russia so they can take care of their own terrorists. The US will side with Israel, I'm pretty sure. N. Korea would decide the world is to dangerous and work on it's nuclear program and that would piss of Japan who would attack them. Iran will nuke Israel as soon as they have the weapon. Iraq will remain neutral but allow the US to station there. Late in the war if the new axis is winning Iraq will try to betray the US because of their deep Islamic roots. They'll either fail or it will be to late. Several countries will nuke eachother but it won't be the end of the world.

So, um that's my prediction. Allies 17 | Axis 13
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Postby Best_predator » Jul 12th, 2006 at 1:06 pm

Thanks for that wonderfully lame future recap burzum.
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