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Searching for a career

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 5:13 am
by Keyser Soze
Alright, it's about time for me to decide what I'm going to be getting paid off of and I'm having a hard ass time deciding what I want to do. I love cars, did a lot with 'em, rebuilt engines and such. But I have no idea of the career oppurtinities in automotives. I need you guys to help me out. Ofcourse, the end of all money schemes is your own business, but I don't plan on waiting 'till I'm 70, just saying I need something that'll get me rich before I become impotent, so yeah, suggestions?

Some stuff to consider about what I'm interested in:

-I'm a car enthuasist.
-I hate paper work, I wouldn't mind paper work but I don't want paper work to be my job
-Salary is a big factor, don't want a shitty paycheck
-I love physics and design.

Umm... so yeah... got anything for me?

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 9:19 am
by Jahiliyya
You are looking for an opportunity.

If you get an education, opportunities will come to you.

Education is the key to a sucessful career.

Re: Searching for a career

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 9:32 am
by Phoenix
Keyser Soze wrote:-Salary is a big factor, don't want a shitty paycheck


Then you are in for a shitty job. Trust me, at the very start I wouldn't pay a lot of attention to money, find somthing you enjoy, and do that even if there isn't a lot of money at the start, money can come later, there is somthing to be said for spending a few years as a "poor" guy.

Re: Searching for a career

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 9:48 am
by Burzum
Phoenix wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:-Salary is a big factor, don't want a shitty paycheck


Then you are in for a shitty job. Trust me, at the very start I wouldn't pay a lot of attention to money, find somthing you enjoy, and do that even if there isn't a lot of money at the start, money can come later, there is somthing to be said for spending a few years as a "poor" guy.


True and True. You want an education but you have to remember that you're starting out with very little skills. So you need to take a lower wage and focus on the job that helps you the best. If you like cars and decide to go into that field you'll probably start out doing 90% oil changes and brake jobs. Sound fun? Eventually, as you learn, you can get into the more fun stuff, like rebuilding transmissions and such.

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 10:19 am
by Kahuna Mas
The best advice I can give is this. Don't try to accomplish everything at once. Remember this is a marathon and not a sprint race.

1. Education is the key. It opens doors you may want open, but more importantly, it opens doors you don't even realize exist and may not discover for 10 years. More doors means you can change your mind later on in case you went down a path you didn't like.

2. Be carefull of the easy way. Most people in the world opt for this and therefore look back wishing they had worked a little harder.

3. Since you are focused on salary, the big money is 20 years away. Your friends may be making some good money today, but it may be the best they'll ever do. Example- I had a friend who got a high paying job right out of college, but it was in pharmaceutical sales which pays well, but turns people over a lot. Long story short, he's still making roughly the same 10 yrs later. I went into a low paying job out of college, but had lots of growth opportunities in the company. I now make 3x what my first salary was.

4. Keep your expenses a low as possible. At best, most people get a 5% raise each year, but those same people can probably cut their expenses and debt by 10-20% each year. By doing this you give yourself a raise bigger than your company will.

Thats all I got. You can read the rest in my new book:
"How to Make Money Giving Advice, When You Should Really Get Back to Work"

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 11:29 am
by EatMoreLead
work is just a tool to get $$ so you can support family and lifestyle. Sell drugs, you got the gangster talk down anyway, lol.

no seriously, do what you love, but if that doesn't make $$, then do something you like and will make some $$ too. Did you get your associates yet? If so, consider getting the 4yr degree, in the end if you live past 45yrs, it is financial plus even though you take 2 years more off to get degree and spend $30K to get it. It is not just the paper, it is the experience, contacts, finding yourself that mkaes college worthwhile IMHO.

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 11:32 am
by Kahuna Mas
If you are as far as your associates, finish the 4 year. From what I have seen, none of my friends with associates were any different than those with HS only and a year experience.

From what I have seen, here's the way companies are looking at things:
1. HS only
2. Some College (doesn't matter about associates)
3. College 4 Year
4. Post Grad (needed for the big corporate growth)

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 12:42 pm
by Best_predator
Challenge the Black List and race those fuckers... MOST WANTED FTW!!!

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 1:26 pm
by K2
I didnt realize prostitution required an education... ? :shock:

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 1:30 pm
by Best_predator
K2 wrote:I didnt realize prostitution required an education... ? :shock:


Woah... woah.... WOAH! dude.. prostitution is THE oldest occupation okay? It requires as much education as rocket science. My acquaintance for example, is gettin a PhD in "Male Whoring and Plantation Theory"...

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 1:31 pm
by G$
Build custom motorcycles.

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 2:58 pm
by Keyser Soze
G$ wrote:Build custom motorcycles.


Seriously, how do you get into that, sounds like fun.

Yeah, I didn't really phrase it right, I love cars, all my life, the only thing I cared about is what I drived in, sort of an infatuation with cars, when I got under the hood, it only increased.

What I meant with salary was that I don't want to be stuck at one salary, I don't mind starting off with something small, but I don't want to get screwed over and be making the same (or a shitt ammount more) 10 yrs later, like you mentioned Kahuna. Definately like the advice and it's helping me out, I've got my high school diploma and finished my first year od college, still don't know what I should major in.

In the end, I want to start my own business, ofcourse, since that's where the biggest bucks are. So maybe I was thinking Business Management?

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 3:58 pm
by Deleted User
You hate paper work, and you want to start your own small business? Hehe...

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 4:46 pm
by Kahuna Mas
Some others can throw their 2 cents here, but business management is not the best avenue IMO. At A&M the Bus Mgmt were the goobs of the business majors. However, at the end of the day ANY 4 yr will get you started. Its just your first year, you may change majors a couple of times anyway before graduation.

The great thing about business is that this type of education applies in all areas. Even Jesse James and the Tuttles have the use business skills. It also gives you an opportunity to change your mind throughout your career. As for Business here's my view on the 4 areas:

Accounting- number crunchers with no personality. Good starting salary, but growth is limited in the long run.

Finance- Good starting salary. Good with numbers but more personality than the accounting guys. Only opportunities come from your actual abilities. You can't bullshit your way through this field. Long term can grow to be a CFO then to CEO if really good.

Marketing (me)- Low starting salary, but high potential long term. Decent with the numbers but personality goes a long way here. Because of this, often times these guys move up soley on their ability with people. Bullshitting/ posture works great in this area. Bosses don't have to know how it works, they have to know how people work. Real world. Good ones end up VP or Exec VPs. Sometimes CEO.

Management- Jack of all Trades master of none. These guys make awesome mid-level managers, but thats where it stops unless higher education comes into play.

Logisitcs- Same as accounting but with trucks :)

At the end of the day, an MBA superceeds all. Its the expert in all areas (suppossedly). Most companies require this for you to manager significant portions of their business. As you move up, you find that medium sized companies want their top execs to be strong in all these areas. So, if a guy comes in as sales and grows he may later be put in a finance role to gain experience and vice versa.

I can go on to infinity, but then again, I'm still trying to bullshit my way through this job :)

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 4:58 pm
by GoatX12
Hey why not combine the 2 things you love, shooting things and cars, a nice job in the Army might be what your looking for.

However being an USAF Vet I'd say go for a job working on Aircraft, get to see the world and best thing about being an Aircraft mechanic is you get to stay in the rear with the gear while you send your Officers into combat. (it's just a bitch patching those holes in the planes, but that's what makes it fun)

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 5:08 pm
by |PoRn| Profess0r
Keyser Soze wrote:
G$ wrote:Build custom motorcycles.


Seriously, how do you get into that, sounds like fun.

Yeah, I didn't really phrase it right, I love cars, all my life, the only thing I cared about is what I drived in, sort of an infatuation with cars, when I got under the hood, it only increased.

What I meant with salary was that I don't want to be stuck at one salary, I don't mind starting off with something small, but I don't want to get screwed over and be making the same (or a shitt ammount more) 10 yrs later, like you mentioned Kahuna. Definately like the advice and it's helping me out, I've got my high school diploma and finished my first year od college, still don't know what I should major in.

In the end, I want to start my own business, ofcourse, since that's where the biggest bucks are. So maybe I was thinking Business Management?



If you hate paper work then I wouldn't major in business. 15 page business plans tend to be a boner killer if you don't like writing...

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 5:43 pm
by Catalyst22
-I hate paper work, I wouldn't mind paper work but I don't want paper work to be my job


Take some small business courses at a local school before you even think about what you are going to do. Everything is paper work, its not bad if you know what you are doing.

Posted: Jan 11th, 2006 at 5:50 pm
by Jeng
GoatX12 wrote:Hey why not combine the 2 things you love, shooting things and cars, a nice job in the Army might be what your looking for.

However being an USAF Vet I'd say go for a job working on Aircraft, get to see the world and best thing about being an Aircraft mechanic is you get to stay in the rear with the gear while you send your Officers into combat. (it's just a bitch patching those holes in the planes, but that's what makes it fun)


Cousin did USAF, he now works full time getting some very nice bucks working on aircraft, on his time he does a little RX-7 shop partly with his dad.

Working on Stealth aircraft looks nice on your resume.