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Postby Catalyst22 » Dec 8th, 2005 at 1:15 am

I get a kick out of his show, but I want other peoples opinions on it.

Do you guys think he leans more democrat or republican? I think he is about 80% democrat and finds ways to insert his true ideology into his comentary rather than just having a good comedy show. I'd like to think that his show is unbiase and pokes fun at all parties and ideologies but I think he has chosen a side in the political chaos and pushes his agenda while hiding behind the "I'm a comedian so nothing I say should be taken seriously" facade.

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Postby Glimmerman » Dec 8th, 2005 at 2:13 am

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Postby Jahiliyya » Dec 8th, 2005 at 2:28 am

It's funny. When Clinton was in office, it seemed like Stewart leaned right. Now W is in office and it seems he leans left. I think in the end there's only so much material out there and presidents make good material.

Also, the writers at the show may have changed somewhere along the way.
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Postby K2 » Dec 8th, 2005 at 2:34 am

Stewart is funny as fuk.

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Postby Keyser Soze » Dec 8th, 2005 at 3:24 am

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Postby ender*(gayless) » Dec 8th, 2005 at 4:06 am

it seems like he's somewhat left...

but, on his show he definatly spreads the love around and just makes fun of whoever gives him material to make fun of. if you ever saw him when he was a guest on crossfire it's one of the funniest things EVER.
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Postby Deleted User » Dec 8th, 2005 at 4:13 am

It'd be difficult for him to do political humor without cracking jokes at the president. What other political figure does all of America criticize?
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Postby Suck. » Dec 8th, 2005 at 4:16 am

I used to watch The Daily Show every night. It's still funny, but not like it used to be. For one, they've lost Steve Correl, and Steven Colbert now has his own show... oh yeah, and I'm not longer high every waking hour, and The Daily Show smoke session is no longer observed religiously every night. :P

I think it's really difficult to judge John Stewart's exact political persuasion. There's no doubt that he dislikes the Bush administration and the political far-right, but he seems to be skeptical of the left as well, and the system for that matter. The problem is that he fails to comment on the left much of the time, or does so only when also discussing the right, because he wants to play to his audience. His frequent weed jokes are a definate cue as to exactly whom his target audience is.

Unfortunately, I believe that he deliberately avoids many of the largest problems that we're really facing and their root causes by pandering to his audience. Instead of drawing attention to the general breakdown of civility and bipartisanship in politics in the past decade and a half or the enormous importance of campaign finance reform, he has sought to increase the popularity of the show with selective and biased segments, interviews, etc. By focusing on the right, John Stewart often fails to make the point that problems that Gen Y will be facing are systemic problems that can't be attributed to any one group or individual. I think that his book does a better job dealing with some of these issues, but that doesn't change the fact that his show has become increasingly partisan specifically since he began the Mess-O-Potamia segment. I have no qualms with him questioning issues surrounding the war, but it seems more and more that he's pinning the blame for everything on the Republican party. This is, I suppose, the third reason that the show is much less enjoyable to me now.


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Postby rekloose-[PUPPY] » Dec 8th, 2005 at 6:48 am

stewert is fycking funny. He IS a democrat (has stated that he thought Bush should have been voted out of office), but i think he keeps the majority of his bias out of his joke-casts.

Interestingly enough, there was a survey conducted by researchers on viewers of FOX, CNN, MSNBC, and Comedy Central's Daily Show to see which ones were more accurately informed on current events.

The Daily Show viewers blew away all the other viewers (especially the FOX ones!) in just about every category (if i remember correctly).

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Postby Jahiliyya » Dec 8th, 2005 at 7:18 am

Enter the FOX bashing! Yay!
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Postby Jeng » Dec 8th, 2005 at 8:18 am

Suck. wrote:Unfortunately, I believe that he deliberately avoids many of the largest problems that we're really facing and their root causes by pandering to his audience. Instead of drawing attention to the general breakdown of civility and bipartisanship in politics in the past decade and a half or the enormous importance of campaign finance reform, he has sought to increase the popularity of the show with selective and biased segments, interviews, etc. By focusing on the right, John Stewart often fails to make the point that problems that Gen Y will be facing are systemic problems that can't be attributed to any one group or individual. I think that his book does a better job dealing with some of these issues, but that doesn't change the fact that his show has become increasingly partisan specifically since he began the Mess-O-Potamia segment. I have no qualms with him questioning issues surrounding the war, but it seems more and more that he's pinning the blame for everything on the Republican party. This is, I suppose, the third reason that the show is much less enjoyable to me now.


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He's a freaking Comedian!! Anyone else find it sad that we are asking for this level of insightfullness from a comedian? Btw, a comedian who is of course fuking hilarious.

Now if 60 Minutes lured him away from The Daily Show, that would rock.
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Postby MeMGhost » Dec 8th, 2005 at 8:33 am

Since the republicans hold the majority of seats and have the presidency, there is more material on them. Like someone stated earlier, when Clinton and the dems had it there was more material for them, even though he is a democrat I feel they just go with the best material and whoever holds more positions is always going to create more material :)

And yes, his show is the only political show I watch because I can't stomach the bickering that every other political show has. Other shows never accomplish anything, except bashing the other party.

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Postby Catalyst22 » Dec 8th, 2005 at 12:00 pm

He's a freaking Comedian!! Anyone else find it sad that we are asking for this level of insightfullness from a comedian? Btw, a comedian who is of course fuking hilarious.


I think he is hilarious. I like his show a great deal. The only problem I have is what I recently heard him say on a talk show. When pressed about some of the jokes on his show he said "I'm a comedian, I make jokes. People shouldn't take me seriously". Then he goes on about his political beliefs. I had a boss once who used to always joke about firing his employees. He thought it was real funny, but he was also smart enough to put an edge on the joke so that you werent sure if he was kidding or not (he was a dick). So I am weary of people who use humor to push an agenda while at the same time hiding behind the "I'm just making jokes" statement.

I sitll like his show tho :)
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Postby Cud » Dec 8th, 2005 at 3:09 pm

Colbert report should only be 15 min... then it'd be great... its just a little strained at 30.
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Postby LeoPawnz » Dec 8th, 2005 at 8:35 pm

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Postby Servo » Dec 8th, 2005 at 10:35 pm

The only problem I have is what I recently heard him say on a talk show. When pressed about some of the jokes on his show he said "I'm a comedian, I make jokes. People shouldn't take me seriously". Then he goes on about his political beliefs.


the big problem is that he does some of the best political comentary on TV, comedian or no. That says much more about the sad state of the media than it does about John Stewart. We shouldn't HAVE to take John Stewart seriously, but we have no other choice.

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Postby Dylan » Dec 9th, 2005 at 1:15 am

The sad thing is everyone loves the guy yet none of you can spell his name right.

Even with losing Colbert and Correl its still one of the best shows on TV.
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Postby ender*(gayless) » Dec 9th, 2005 at 4:50 pm

the colbert report is amazing.

so sorry if you can't take the double decker truth sandwich that he's dishing out.
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Postby Shade » Dec 9th, 2005 at 5:20 pm

mmm double decker supreme.
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Postby JayPhat » Dec 9th, 2005 at 9:40 pm

Suck. wrote:Unfortunately, I believe that he deliberately avoids many of the largest problems that we're really facing and their root causes by pandering to his audience. Instead of drawing attention to the general breakdown of civility and bipartisanship in politics in the past decade and a half or the enormous importance of campaign finance reform, he has sought to increase the popularity of the show with selective and biased segments, interviews, etc.


Apparently, you didn't see John on CNN's "Crossfire". All he did was lean into those two bitches on there about how their bickering does nothing but hurt the nation and they need to focus on fixing issues. When told that he too should use his show to do the same, becuase so many people rely on it as their news source he said "I follow a show that has puppets making crank calls for Christs sake. How serious do you think my show is?"
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Postby Mouser » Dec 9th, 2005 at 11:14 pm

I have it if someone can host it. It's fucking great. Honestly, he just lays into the entire state of the media in this country. Let me know if you want to host it, 70MB..14 mins..

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Postby rekloose-[PUPPY] » Dec 10th, 2005 at 1:49 am

seen it. worth it.

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Postby Dylan » Dec 10th, 2005 at 5:03 am

If you watch the show regularly and have read America the book you'd notice that the daily show has made it a point to attack cable news channels non stop.

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Postby Mouser » Dec 10th, 2005 at 6:11 am

Thankyou Dylan for finding that. The book is amazing. I don't own it since I rarely buy books and just erad them at Borders or go to the library...yeah...some don't know what that is.

Publishers Weekly wrote:From Publishers Weekly
Cheeky, irreverent and playfully ingenuous, this abbreviated history of democracy is everything one would expect from the writers of Comedy Central's fake news program, which recently (and somewhat scandalously) won the Television Critics Association's award for outstanding news and public affairs series. The book is laid out like a textbook, with "Discussion Questions" ("Why do you think the Framers made the Constitution so soul-crushingly boring?"), "Classroom Activities" ("Using felt and yarn, make a hand puppet of Clarence Thomas. Ta-da! You're Antonin Scalia!") and plenty of amusing graphics, including a board game that resembles the game Life but which follows a presidential term: "Optimistic press release on economy ineffective. Spin again." No one evades the authors' scrutiny, not even the Pilgrims, who came to America "to escape religious persecution... create a society where they could worship as they pleased and one day, God willing, even do some persecuting of their own." The media fares the worst, however. An entire chapter is devoted to telling the "inspirational" story of how the media "transformed itself from a mere public necessity into an entertaining profit center for ever-expanding corporate empires." But if this and other criticisms kindle a few unpatriotic feelings, a section describing how worse off the rest of the world is should buoy spirits. From its dedication ("To the huddled masses—Keep yearnin'!") to its final chapter, which lampoons the 2004 presidential candidates, this humorous sendup of American politics never fails to entertain, poke fun and provoke thought.
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Parts of this review I found as funny as it quotes some amazing parts of the book. It's sort of a kids book, but that should appeal to those that haven't felt the need to read more than a paragraph since 8th grade. It's a good book for those that would like to think we are headed in the right direction. I'd point you to some Chomsky, but that has no pictures...nor comedy...it's just cold hard facts that would make you want to go down the road and not across the street.



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Postby Servo » Dec 11th, 2005 at 12:05 am

It's sort of a kids book,


Yes, because nothing is more appropriate for the children than supreme court pictures involving full frontal nudity.
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