00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the Oracle, on T:5903 (1:12:38) 00:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3952 00:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed levoittiel's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4068 00:16 [hdf-au] [hackm] Nyri (Nec Ith Mal Cha), 2217 points, T:2400, killed by a zoo bat, while sleeping 00:25 -!- anselmus has joined #hardfought 00:43 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed levoittiel's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4116 00:47 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:52 -!- Regne has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] howbrutal (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2624 points, T:995, killed by a rothe 01:24 -!- Anerag_ is now known as Anerag 01:30 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:40 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 01:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4041 01:48 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 923 points, T:2507, killed by a giant bat 01:51 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 208 points, T:745, killed by a small mimic 01:56 -!- Peteird has joined #hardfought 01:58 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:02 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 02:03 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 02:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:05 -!- hackemslashem has joined #hardfought 02:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hackemslashem] by ChanServ 02:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non), 15030 points, T:3344, killed by Cerberus 02:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2847 points, T:2623, killed by falling down a mine shaft 02:14 -!- Peteird has joined #hardfought 02:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2187 02:30 -!- Peteird has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4251 02:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 4156 points, T:4664, killed by a winter wolf cub 02:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] stash (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 537 points, T:1729, killed by a gnome, while unconscious from rotten food 02:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products (fortune cookie) for the first time, on T:5355 02:54 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 03:32 [hdf-au] [evil] Regne (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 138 points, T:899, killed by a hobbit 03:36 -!- Peteird has joined #hardfought 03:37 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 03:38 -!- anselmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Magus (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 115 points, T:660, killed by a mountain dwarf 03:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1416 03:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 1032 points, T:1495, fell into a pit of iron spikes 04:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] stash (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed stash's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1396 04:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] stash (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1521 04:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] stash (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2542 points, T:1913, killed by an Uruk-hai 04:11 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:15 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 04:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2313 04:24 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "Blessed rustproof +2 The Sceptre of Might", got "a blessed mace named the Sceptre of Might", on T:2493 04:25 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 04:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed levoittiel's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3144 04:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 3925 points, T:3660, killed by an owlbear 04:44 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:18353 04:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered tinyCAT, her faithful kitten, on T:823 04:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 313 points, T:1002, killed by a cave spider 04:56 [hdf-au] [nndnh] KRR (Hea Eth Mal Neu), 609423 points, T:50320, quit 04:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 383 points, T:660, killed by a wererat 04:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed levoittiel's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1863 04:59 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1230 05:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1487 points, T:1354, killed by a black unicorn 05:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2552 points, T:3108, killed by a white unicorn 05:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 466 points, T:931, killed by a gnome lord 05:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "Blessed greased +2 black dragon scale mail", got "a blessed greased black dragon scale mail", on T:94 05:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law), 406 points, T:1140, killed by a black pudding 05:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Dwa Fem Law), 214 points, T:814, killed by a small mimic 05:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2346 05:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed haexwise's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:2377 05:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 100563 points, T:20990, killed by a lieutenant 05:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law), 248 points, T:1214, killed by a wand 05:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed Spartacus' ghost, the former Fighter, on T:3161 05:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) found Demonbane on the floor, on T:73851 05:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a black dragon, on T:3552 05:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4059 05:50 !tell Peteird do you know about using : for searching? like in your inventory? 05:50 Will do, cbus! 05:51 ^ did that work? got bot on ignore :P 05:52 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:53 Yes 05:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 9542 points, T:4332, killed by a crocodile 05:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 711 points, T:804, killed by a pony 05:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Lagrange0 (Arc Hum Fem Law), 4294 points, T:4510, killed by an Uruk-hai 06:02 cbus: you can send it private messages 06:02 -!- KeyKobra has joined #hardfought 06:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:19195 (4:03:40) 06:05 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:07 -!- Peteird has joined #hardfought 06:08 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 06:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 89 points, T:340, killed by a kobold 06:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 118 points, T:354, killed by a fox 06:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 628 points, T:442, killed by a gnome king 06:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:75529 06:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:75530 06:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1369 points, T:1360, killed by a rothe 06:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 517 points, T:1043, killed by a giant mimic 06:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4382 06:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1160 06:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1202 points, T:1184, killed by a hill orc called Uzai of Oggrisuhai 06:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:4620 06:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 300 points, T:559, killed by a gnome lord 06:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2272 points, T:4623, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted rothe 06:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 652 points, T:906, killed by a rabid rat 06:41 peteird, I sent you a message so type something :D 06:42 cbus, where? I don't see anything. 06:42 Peteird: Message from cbus at 2024-10-16 05:50 EDT: do you know about using : for searching? like in your inventory? 06:42 Ah. 06:43 I saw someone using that, yes. 06:43 so you could do like 06:43 D: 06:43 and search for lets say glass 06:43 and it would select all hits 06:44 -!- Bleeko has joined #hardfought 06:44 Cool. 06:44 I remember seeing someone searching for cockatrice corpses (or eggs?) this way. 06:45 yeah possible :) 06:45 I use it every now and then but I had a hard time making a good example 06:45 I use it pretty instinctively 06:45 and you can do fancy stuff with _ (like going to unexplored parts) 06:45 check with _? 06:45 just a couple tips :) 06:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1591 06:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed haexwise's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1657 06:47 I'll definitely use that :) 06:48 damn I am rusty now 06:48 I also like using the "~", ",", "." keys for such menus (for example, containers). 06:48 ah yeah 06:49 I dont really like using the _ except for like <>_ and otherwise I use HJKL 06:49 to move the cursor around 06:49 since it is faster :) 06:50 Same. 06:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1701 06:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1409 points, T:1951, killed by a poisonous corpse 07:03 [hdf-us] [nh343] efot (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:44348 07:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:22989 (5:06:05) 07:05 peteird, if you want to look at my rc https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/t/torpedojuice/nethack/torpedojuice.nhrc :D 07:11 -!- wvc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:11 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 07:12 [hdf-us] [nh343] efot (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:44883 07:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 101 points, T:351, killed by a bolt of cold zapped by himself 07:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law), 521 points, T:1742, killed by a coyote 07:14 [hdf-us] [nh343] efot (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:45026 07:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 356 points, T:708, killed by a manes 07:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 219 points, T:512, killed by a dwarf zombie 07:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 16 points, T:18, killed by a bear trap 07:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:23629 (5:22:31) 07:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1381 07:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1890 points, T:1528, quit 07:32 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Lagrange0 (Arc Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3374 07:33 -!- aosdict has joined #hardfought 07:33 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aosdict] by ChanServ 07:36 'lo aosdict 07:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2038 07:37 -!- KeyKobra has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "Blessed rustproof +2 The Sceptre of Might", got "a blessed mace named the Sceptre of Might", on T:2153 07:40 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 3737 points, T:2494, killed by a bolt of lightning 07:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5670 07:41 -!- Peteird has joined #hardfought 07:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1446 points, T:951, quit 07:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Lagrange0 (Arc Hum Fem Law), 2402 points, T:3945, killed by a Woodland-elf 07:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1658 points, T:1659, killed by a werewolf 07:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Cleaver by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:5818 07:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 08:04 -!- oreocookie has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1691 points, T:1707, killed by a winter wolf 08:06 -!- oreocookie has joined #hardfought 08:06 -!- oreocookie has quit [Changing host] 08:06 -!- oreocookie has joined #hardfought 08:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] laycre (Val Dwa Fem Law) was bestowed with Mjollnir by Tyr, on T:2181 08:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:80423 08:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:80435 08:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] laycre (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3422 08:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:25301 (6:20:18) 08:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] xdminsy (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:7997 08:49 -!- Announcy is now known as Guest4582 08:49 -!- Guest4582 has quit [Killed (osmium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 08:49 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 08:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 08:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HugeMimic (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed haexwise's ghost, the former Adept, on T:4617 08:50 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HugeMimic (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed haexwise's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:4711 08:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:9108 08:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed haexwise's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:2326 08:58 [hdf-us] [4k] Ombre (ombre) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 21685 points, T:3997, escaped 08:59 -!- tinklebear has joined #hardfought 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:10031 09:02 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had a staff of divination entrusted to him by Hermes, on T:37030 (7:47:04) 09:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed xororand's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:2960 09:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1509 09:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HugeMimic (Rog Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6645 09:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) entered the Wizard of Yendor's lair, on T:63818 (1 day, 13:04:05) 09:12 -!- Peteird has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:6242 (1:17:48) 09:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HugeMimic (Rog Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an elven dagger named +2 !c on an altar, on T:6851 09:18 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Hea Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:37653 (8:03:29) 09:19 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6545 (1:23:10) 09:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:63861 (1 day, 13:07:44) 09:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:63863 (1 day, 13:07:57) 09:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4563 09:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:63878 (1 day, 13:10:47) 09:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Prokythera (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:22442 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:27799 (7:27:11) 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27802 (7:27:21) 09:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5029 09:27 -!- Peteird has joined #hardfought 09:29 !lastgame ombre 09:29 joes: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/ombre/nhfourk/dumps/2024-10-16%2012%3A58%3A07%2C%20Ombre-Wiz-Hum-Fem-Neu%2C%20escaped.txt 09:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed haexwise's ghost, the former Adept, on T:5313 09:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law) found the Sceptre of Might on the floor, on T:5314 09:30 was starving 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) completed his quest without incident, on T:28032 (7:31:50) 09:32 !PoM 09:32 APic: The moon is full for 4 more days. 09:32 \o 09:33 -!- floating_eye has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:33 -!- floating_eye has joined #hardfought 09:34 [hdf-us] [4k] Ombre (ombre) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Minetown temple, on T:2371 09:34 -!- tinklebear has left #hardfought 09:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HugeMimic (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10198 09:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Mjollnir by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:11122 09:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3249 09:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed the dark elven high priest of Moloch, on T:64037 (1 day, 13:26:53) 09:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:64040 (1 day, 13:27:15) 09:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon (broad pick) for the first time, on T:11581 09:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law), 5912 points, T:5495, killed by a soldier ant 09:44 -!- graves has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Spartacus (Val Hum Fem Law), 1000 points, T:1605, killed by a bolt of lightning zapped by a gnome lord 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 31077 points, T:12078, killed by a troll 09:48 @v?Croeusus 09:48 Croeusus ~1~ Croesus (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 15 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 40 | Gen: unique | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d10 weapon physical | Align: 15 | omnivore, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravis 09:48 [hdf-eu] [slshm] RusselSouls (Mon Dop Mal Cha), 3126 points, T:1853, killed by a fire ant 09:50 -!- graves has joined #hardfought 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 43550 points, T:12660, killed by a giant mimic 09:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Ran Orc Mal Cha) Hebiwerie, the general store proprietor, has been killed, on T:31355 09:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1137306 points, T:50038, poisoned by an aligned priest 09:52 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:53 [hdf-us] [4k] Ombre (ombre) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) unlocked the Caveman role by digging, on T:3491 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased bag of holding named Thanks, RNG", got "a greased bag named Thanks, RNG", on T:17419 09:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Ran Orc Mal Cha) Pakka Pakka, the general store proprietrix, has been killed, on T:31735 09:56 !lastgame phaperplane2 09:56 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/phaperplane2/dnethack/dumplog/1728661163.dnh.txt 10:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6483 10:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed ring of free action", on T:62070 (17:19:20) 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Prokythera (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "marker", got "a magic marker", on T:23033 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a scimitar on an altar, on T:6995 10:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2015 points, T:1468, quit 10:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2532 points, T:4173, killed by a dwarf 10:07 [hdf-us] [4k] Ombre (ombre) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the ghost of beer, the former Barbarian, on T:5513 10:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Spartacus (Val Hum Fem Law), 1348 points, T:1839, killed by a gnome mummy 10:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful little dog, on T:1174 10:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1299 points, T:1308, killed by a dwarf queen 10:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:62598 (17:32:53) 10:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Rog Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3292 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Prokythera (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "marker", got "a magic marker", on T:23082 10:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] KnicktheKnight (Pir Hum Mal Cha) was given the Marauder's Map, on T:9401 10:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 4536 points, T:3645, killed by a vampire bat 10:22 [hdf-us] [slth] dnng (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed Marauder's map", on T:9786 10:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2434 points, T:2294, quit 10:24 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 10:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] kickerofelves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3437 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] kickerofelves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4725 points, T:3439, killed by a giant beetle, while praying 10:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1299 points, T:1732, killed by a gnome lord 10:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1689 10:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed kingfollower's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:1708 10:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) found the Sceptre of Might on the floor, on T:1711 10:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 503 points, T:945, killed by a dagger 10:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law) destroyed haexwise's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:801 10:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1416 points, T:3325, killed by a lynx 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) became Mog's Envoy of Balance, on T:63608 (17:56:55) 10:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1823 10:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 3651 points, T:2324, quit 10:46 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest5968 10:46 -!- Guest5968 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 10:46 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 10:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 349 points, T:1031, killed by a goblin, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed wisp's ghost, the former Novice, on T:3283 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] stash (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 1934 points, T:2379, killed by a kitten 10:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3819 10:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HugeMimic (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:14275 10:55 [hdf-us] [4k] Ombre (ombre) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Sokoban zoo, on T:11103 10:56 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1994 11:00 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a gelatinous cube, on T:3017 11:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Elebreth", on T:4047 11:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 4855 points, T:4506, killed by a queen bee, while sleeping 11:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Sam Hum Mal Law), 54572 points, T:17500, poisoned by a locust, while sleeping 11:17 [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Con Vam Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:70666 (1 day, 18:06:17) 11:18 -!- Peteird has joined #hardfought 11:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:80622 11:28 [hdf-us] [4k] Ombre (ombre) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:13144 11:29 -!- anselmus has joined #hardfought 11:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:80683 11:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3738 11:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:21441 11:51 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a magical concave amulet on an altar, on T:10480 (2:11:19) 11:52 [hdf-us] [4k] Ombre (ombre) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 20889 points, T:14550, killed by a giant zombie, while sleeping 11:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:35221 11:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Magicbane by Thoth, on T:4400 11:58 <@nabru> The magic missile hits the lieutenant! You smell body odor. 11:58 <@nabru> ... someone needs a shower 11:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:80950 11:59 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 17709 points, T:10803, killed by a dust vortex, while praying 12:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 6065 points, T:4682, killed by a gnome lord 12:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:81105 12:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:81106 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed WizzyTheWeird's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:8726 12:09 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HugeMimic (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:21632 12:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", got "a ring of levitation", on T:81108 12:11 -!- hackemslashem has joined #hardfought 12:11 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hackemslashem] by ChanServ 12:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:81173 12:13 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 12:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 12:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Mon Dro Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4084 (1:09:47) 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of flying named YendorX", got "a hexagonal amulet named YendorX", on T:22560 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:9369 (1:03:24) 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +3 helm of brilliance named PhD.", got "a greased crystal helmet named PhD.", on T:22562 12:16 [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Con Vam Fem Cha) killed the invisible the Largest Giant, on T:72038 (1 day, 19:05:00) 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:46757 12:18 "the invisible the Largest Giant" 12:18 @malor livelog error to look at whenever 12:18 few lines above 12:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] KnicktheKnight (Pir Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Stormbringer", on T:14492 12:19 [hdf-us] [slth] luxor (Mon Dop Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of mana", on T:15594 12:22 [hdf-us] [ace] picaresquieu (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 6216 points, T:297, killed by a goblin 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Ran Orc Mal Cha) Budereyri, the general store proprietor, has been killed, on T:36655 12:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:3955 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 170 points, T:800, killed by the ghost of Fred, while fainted from lack of food 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Enchantress (level 14), on T:24074 12:28 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1799 (0:11:59) 12:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1250 points, T:1069, killed by a priestess of Hermes 12:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:24175 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2162 (0:15:54) 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:69187 (19:52:35) 12:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 1126 points, T:942, killed by a gnome lord 12:37 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:12391 (1:26:02) 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] wisp (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a tengu corpse, on T:5958 12:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 164 points, T:452, killed by a gas spore's explosion 12:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HugeMimic (Rog Orc Fem Cha) the Oracle has been killed, on T:23154 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:12683 (1:29:11) 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh4] macdonald (Pullings) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 34500 points, T:3967, poisoned by a snake 12:43 [hdf-us] [hackm] Frozty (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Beholder, on T:33269 (1 day, 12:10:48) 12:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:82645 12:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Earth, on T:82645 12:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5th time), on T:82646 12:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 579 points, T:912, killed by a hobgoblin 12:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Air, on T:82681 12:47 -!- Peteird has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1318 12:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "Blessed rustproof +2 The Sceptre of Might", got "a blessed mace named the Sceptre of Might", on T:1436 12:53 -!- Peteird has joined #hardfought 12:53 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 12568 points, T:4752, petrified by a chickatrice 12:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:64094 (1 day, 13:35:47) 12:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Fire, on T:82858 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Mog, on T:69918 (20:10:20) 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:26005 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) found the Eye of the Aethiopica carried by a monster, on T:26005 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26011 12:56 [hdf-us] [evil] beman (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 22694 points, T:14355, killed by an owlbear 12:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:64105 (1 day, 13:38:28) 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Ran Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Scout (level 14), on T:38034 13:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Water, on T:83045 13:06 -!- hackemslashem 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[nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:28454 13:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1314 13:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine (5th time), on T:83217 13:29 [hdf-au] [evil] Regne (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 513 points, T:1653, killed by a wand 13:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) averted death (killed by a priestess of Crom), on T:1516 13:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1260 points, T:1517, killed by a priestess of Crom 13:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Mog, on T:71768 (20:46:17) 13:30 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #hardfought 13:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] slarty (Arc Hum Mal Law), 488 points, T:3059, killed by a guard 13:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] kdg (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Magicbane by Anhur, on T:4260 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:24089 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) found the Orb of Fate carried by a monster, on T:24089 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24090 13:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1365 13:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:83316 13:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Death (2nd time), on T:83325 13:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 1617 points, T:1446, quit 13:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Death (3rd time), on T:83331 13:45 [hdf-us] [nh4] Biggerstaff (Ackbladder) (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 43698 points, T:2885, killed by a giant mimic 13:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by invisible Famine), on T:83416 13:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:83424 14:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Flugkiller (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4009120 points, T:83450, ascended 14:04 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/F/Flugkiller/nethack/dumplog/1728911736.nh.html 14:05 gg 14:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DramaticBeets (Val Hum Fem Law), 1478 points, T:1952, killed by a hobgoblin 14:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law), 1386 points, T:2323, killed by a crossbow bolt 14:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wvc (Arc Hum Fem Law), 5669 points, T:2347, killed by a poisonous corpse 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:26565 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:73373 (21:25:41) 14:12 <@shadow_rider> @flugkiller dang is that you? didnt know you played nh like that 14:12 <@flugkiller> Yeah 14:12 <@shadow_rider> well gg 14:12 <@flugkiller> Thx 14:13 <@flugkiller> I still don't really know much about the game 14:13 [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Con Vam Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (adherers), on T:73798 (1 day, 20:33:46) 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 1135 points, T:2030, killed by a dwarf lord 14:13 Oh hey Flug and Rider! 14:13 Congrats on the asc 14:13 <@flugkiller> Thanks 14:13 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:13 -!- hackemslashem has joined #hardfought 14:13 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hackemslashem] by ChanServ 14:13 <@shadow_rider> hey umbire 14:14 <@shadow_rider> are you gonna play in the november tournament? 14:14 <@shadow_rider> gotta know a lot about the game to win at all ngl 14:14 <@flugkiller> Yeah I was planning to try to win a game there at least 14:15 <@flugkiller> Yeah but I mean more like, I'm being super inefficient with everything 14:15 <@flugkiller> Took me more than 24 h to win this char 14:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) averted death, on T:7326 14:16 <@shadow_rider> heh i could teach you speed strats if you want 14:16 <@flugkiller> Always like sifting through my stash not knowing what to do 14:16 <@shadow_rider> i know i had seen powermode had played at some point before 14:16 <@flugkiller> That would be cool 14:16 <@shadow_rider> i know i had seen powermode play at some point before 14:16 <@flugkiller> Yeah he's played a bit 14:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:7352 14:17 <@shadow_rider> the average nethack experience 14:18 <@flugkiller> What would you recommend to ascend with next btw 14:18 I mean yeah, probably 14:18 mostly just trying to square away what vanilla wiki stuff I can before I start though 14:18 you been enjoying life Rider? 14:19 also where d'you know each other from 14:19 <@flugkiller> Dcss 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] stash (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1299 points, T:1250, killed by a little dog 14:19 <@shadow_rider> if you want another melee guy like orc barbarian ig 14:19 ah that tracks 14:19 <@shadow_rider> if you want fun then wizard 14:19 <@shadow_rider> but thats kind of a big leap 14:20 <@shadow_rider> thanks umbire ive been enjoying life a lot 14:20 fwiw I think Knight is probably the easiest role in 3.7, but am not sure – it might just be that I'm good at it due to all the low-inventory conducts 14:20 to be fair my first online asc. was a wiz 14:20 though tbf it was elven wiz 14:20 Knight's probably easier due to QoL and stuff like uhhhh 14:20 relative ease of excal 14:20 <@shadow_rider> eh idk if theyre that good yet ais 14:21 yeah, might be a reference pools thing :B 14:21 <@shadow_rider> picks up 2 potions and immediately burdened T_T 14:21 I almost ascended my wizard, but was blown to death by a collapsing drawbridge. 14:21 speaking of reference pools 14:21 @shadow_rider if/when you get a chance, can you check out the vanilla role articles 14:21 been reworking a bunch 14:21 started alphabetically, done up to priest 14:21 <@flugkiller> Thanks for the suggestions 14:22 (which is mostly finished but has a sparse late game section) 14:22 <@shadow_rider> you got a link to it? 14:22 <@flugkiller> How much did the game change in 3.7 in terms of class power? 14:23 <@shadow_rider> or wait 14:23 <@shadow_rider> is it the 13 separate pages 14:23 @flugkiller: it was basically just a valk nerf 14:23 <@shadow_rider> like not at all 14:23 <@shadow_rider> dcss = change everything 2 versions after it gets added, nethack = dont change anything ever 14:23 <@flugkiller> I see 14:24 <@shadow_rider> its just that valkyrie doesnt start with long sword anymore 14:24 Excalibur is also harder to dip for 14:24 oh, there were some significant changes to the wizard early game, too 14:24 although they aren't clearly a nerf or buff 14:24 <@shadow_rider> ah i saw that 14:24 <@shadow_rider> looked interesting 14:25 <@flugkiller> Did monsters previously scream when woken up too 14:25 non 14:25 not in NetHack (they have done so in DCSS for ages) 14:25 that was an exploit nerf, stealth was more than a little overpowered in special rooms 14:25 [hdf-us] [hackm] hanran24 (Yeo Hum Mal Neu), 3141 points, T:3140, killed by a dwarf lord 14:26 <@flugkiller> Which I guess also makes Valk worse now? 14:26 <@flugkiller> Since they get stealth at lv3 14:26 wouldn't you scream being woken up by someone poking you with a sword? 14:26 not so much worse as "you have to actually think through your special room clears" 14:26 it does make valk worse in theory but that really wasn't the limiting factor, and still isn't 14:26 rather than just bumpkilling through everything 14:26 <@flugkiller> Yeah okay 14:27 damaging wands and spells don't wake monsters though 14:27 Is the Elbereth nerf in 3.6 or it only appears in 3.7? 14:27 If I attack something while on Elbereth, it instantly disappears. 14:27 (Also the game calls you a hypocrite) 14:27 <@shadow_rider> its in both 14:28 <@flugkiller> Does that apply to perma engraved elbereth too 14:28 <@flugkiller> Like with a fire wand 14:28 Yes. 14:28 <@flugkiller> Okay 14:29 <@shadow_rider> actually i take back my recommendation of wizard 14:29 <@shadow_rider> the spellcasting system is garbage compared to most other roguelikes 14:30 I still haven't worked out how wizard early-game gameplay is meant to work 14:30 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 14:31 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:32 scrimp together what armor and weapons you can and power up with an early wish/magicbane/etc as early as possible 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:28564 14:32 you can't really play it as an actual caster (which, now that I've played a couple OSR retroclones, feels very true to that style of wizard) 14:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] kingfollower (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2848 14:33 I have been trying to lay the groundwork for making casting wizards more viable – I think the spell selection is in the right place but the numbers are wrong 14:34 I'm not sure how I feel about evilhack's change to let wizards force bolt for very cheap Pw costs 14:35 it certainly lets them cast in the early game but I think it makes them too good 14:35 <@antigulp> Seconding aosdict on the impossibility of playing an early wizard as a pure caster. In AD&D and 3.5 it's not really possible. 14:36 <@antigulp> I'm only familiar with 1e conventions through NetHack but due to D&D's love of Vancian magic I would guess it's similar in 1e as well. 14:36 in the early game, force bolt feels a lot like an escape item 14:36 @antigulp I wasn't the wizard in my party but they still only got to cast a cool spell like once per session 14:36 except that you're incentivized to wear armour and then it becomes unreliable so it isn't really an escape item any more 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Mon Dro Fem Cha) consumed animal products (cream pie) for the first time, on T:4851 (1:20:43) 14:37 maybe "wizards can't wear heavy armour" is a good starting point for a fix (and then you buff them in other respects) 14:37 early D&D worked like that too 14:37 <@antigulp> aosdict: Yeah, that's generally my experience as well. A lot of OSR falls victim to "Linear Warriors, Quadratic Wizards" really hard. 14:37 (in later D&D, they can but won't get full benefit and won't be able to cast) 14:38 <@antigulp> ais523: Do that many wizard players actually wear heavy armor? I think most grab a mithril coat of some kind if possible. 14:38 possibly in the very early game 14:38 <@antigulp> That's my usual strat, at least. Heavy armor is a last resort because then encumberance comes into play. 14:38 Yeah, no wizard is going to be strong enough for bronze plate mail or full plate mail 14:38 but I'm treating mithril as heavy for this purpose, even though it's fairly light 14:38 I much prefer leather or studded leather 14:38 if possible 14:39 modern D&D also prohibits most casters from heavy armor by default (you can get around it but arguably at the cost of making your build suboptimal) 14:39 there's almost certainly a prestige class that fixes the issue :-) 14:39 <@antigulp> *prestige classes mentioned* 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] darkhosis (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2155 14:39 I kind-of forget that things like plate mail exist in the game, it serves basically no purpose other than starting inventory 14:40 5e doesn't really have prestige classes. I'm sure there are unofficial supplements with them, but they're a 3e thing 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:28712 14:40 I am curious as to the last time a serious player wore crystal plate in a serious game 14:40 I end up using it here and there, if I get it early enough and have the carry cap 14:40 <@antigulp> This is where we run into the problem that D&D created a lot of expectations about what roleplaying games "should be" despite the fact that it's a flawed game with a lot of aspects that run counter to a positive play experience. 14:40 re: regular/crystal plate 14:40 yeah, classic conundrum that 14:41 I feel like 5e has some prestige-class-like behaviour in the core class definitions rather than as separate classes – but I'm not very experienced with 5e 14:41 ais523: well, in variants that improve it in some way, it's not uncommon. like in xnethack crystal plate + your color of choice of dragon scales has been viable 14:41 <@antigulp> ais523: In vanilla? Never. 14:41 object mats go a long way also 14:41 other variants like slex and I think evilhack drop the weight of it to viability 14:41 @antigulp: I suspect that most RPGs are highly flawed in that respect (but that D&D may be more so, being the first) 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 564542 points, T:29539, killed by Yeenoghu, while paralyzed 14:42 <@nabru> !lastgame nabru 14:42 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1729034059.nh.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1683120838.evil.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-08-11%2011%3A15%3A06%2C%20Testin%27-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 14:42 <@antigulp> ais523: Oh definitely. D&D gets it the worst because it has to stick with certain expectations, but a lot of rpgs suffer from it. 14:42 I could probably ascend in crystal plate if I wanted to, I'm good at that sort of conduct – but the issue is that I'd be missing extrinsics that DSM normally grants 14:42 well yes, dragon scale mail is just better than crystal plate 14:43 I feel like tRPGs have this big tension between being a competitive (PvE) game and being collaborative story-telling environment, and the tension is never really satisfactorily fixed 14:43 better weight better AC better extrinsics equal spellcasting transparency 14:43 why do you think I got rid ofi t 14:44 crystal plate or DSM? :-D 14:44 <@antigulp> NetHack lacks distinct builds of the kind that show up in DCSS, Brogue, and the like, since in the end you're playing a viciously difficult game and in order to beat it you have to craft a character that can do everything kind of well. So there's not even really a niche for CPM. It's just a liability. 14:44 Latter 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Yeshua (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1637 points, T:2799, quit 14:44 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Dragon-scaled_armor 14:44 <@antigulp> ...which especially stinks because crystal plate mail is really cool to imagine :( 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] darkhosis (Val Dwa Fem Law) was bestowed with Mjollnir by Tyr, on T:2929 14:45 it is not like crystal plate is seriously unbalanced with respect to most armour – it's just that DSM is clearly so much better than mithril, and mithril is clearly so much better than everything else 14:45 Evil also makes CPM into actual gemstone and lowers its weight 14:45 "crystal" is ambiguous, it is both a category of gemstone and a type of glass 14:46 mhm 14:46 -!- Peteird has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:46 dragon-scaled armor is surprisingly controversial IIRC, although I'm personally a fan of the idea (and, IIRC, was present when it was invented, although it wasn't my invention) 14:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Mon Dro Fem Cha), 10407 points, T:5321, killed by an energy vortex 14:48 I just came up with a false rumor for xnethack - "Brew an elixir of dragon breath by dissolving dragon scales in acid" - and though I don't intend to implement it obviously, it sounds really awesome in retrospect 14:48 I guess that makes it a YANI 14:48 the last NetHack game I played, I was trying to work out why I seemed to have less carry cap than usual, and then crafted DSM to replace my mithril and suddenly had a lot of carry cap spare 14:49 even with mithril that's a good 150 14:49 why is it lighter than mithril? that doesn't make any sense balance-wise and may not make any flavour-wise either 14:49 some variants do make it heavier p. sure 14:49 <@antigulp> I think the reason so many variants end up making such radical changes over time is that the balance issues encountered by serious NetHack players *may* not be solvable without major reworkings to NetHack's systems, to the point that the end result no longer feels like NetHack. 14:49 <@antigulp> Plus, many of us want NetHack to be different things. 14:50 -!- Peteird has joined #hardfought 14:50 I think it's worth mentioning that NetHack is highly resistant to balance issues, in the sense that you can make incredibly extreme changes to balance properties and the game somehow manages to function and still be winnable 14:50 -!- Peteird has quit [Client Quit] 14:50 for fun, I once put a +10 in the level difficulty formula; the game was clearly much harder and I was dying a lot early on, but it still seemed winnable with sufficient startscumming 14:51 <@antigulp> I like playing NetHack aggressively with no/minimal stash and as little Elbereth and polypiling as possible. I'm effectively playing a different game than others, who are in turn playing their own little preferred microcosms of NetHack. 14:51 (I can't remember whether I added it inside or outside the ÷2, which may be relevant) 14:51 <@antigulp> Or maybe I'm talking out of my butt. Grad School is burning me out and I'm exhausted lol 14:51 no, actually, that's a thing these discussions could stand to consider more 14:51 @antigulp: minimal stash, no E, no polypiling is how I play when I'm not doing carry cap conducts 14:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Pri Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "ad aeraerium", on T:3174 14:52 because if I have a blessed bag of holding that frees up so much carry cap that I don't need the stashes any more 14:52 <@antigulp> ais523: See, this is why I like your changes to healing potions and hit point regen lol 14:52 although, usually I will make a note of where I drop large amounts of spare food and paper in case I need them later in the game 14:53 <@shadow_rider> now why would anyone willingly play with a carrycap conduct 🤔 14:53 because it makes the game more fun? 14:53 I mean ais just likes doing that in general 14:54 the way to win NetHack reliably is to be hyper-prepared and have solutions to every possible contigency available at all times – but that's also the way to get bored because you can't have interesting problems when the solutions are already available 14:54 <@antigulp> ^ 14:55 carry cap conducts make hyper-preparation close to impossible, they force you to prioritise and to go without things that might potentially come in useful but probably won't 14:55 <@antigulp> Somewhere I have an RLC presentation proposal stashed away about NetHack and other roguelikes as vehicles for storytelling rather than vehicles for balanced gameplay. 14:55 that and I find trying to amass every single contingency at once boring myself 14:55 not that I don't tend to have some that would be considered "out of the way" 14:56 but as I've said elsewhere previously, it's about the risks you're willing to accept 14:57 I generally want to accept risks that have a reasonable chance of screwing up the game, because those are also the ones that make the game interesting 14:57 <@antigulp> The best memories I have of NetHack are the moments of improvisation and unexpected gamestates. It's why I've fallen in love with NetHack speedrun bingo so hard: It pushes you into situations that you're not prepared for or have never seen before, and encourages lateral thinking. 14:58 <@antigulp> I'll have to see if carry capacity conducts scratch that same itch for me. 14:58 ooh, I like speedrun bingos but hadn't thought of applying them to NetHack 14:58 recently, I've being playing a lot of wishless and it is *almost* very good 14:58 but occasionally you end up missing something really critical (usually MR) with no real good way to work around it other than polypiling, which I've also been categorising out 14:58 <@antigulp> ais523: We've done them in the last few NetHackathons! I won the last one (humblebrag) but both of the ones I've played in have been crazy, crazy fun. 14:59 I should probably join you for a few 14:59 do you have a link for the card generator? 14:59 <@antigulp> Because NetHack is such a complicated game, you end up in situations where every competitor goes for different strats too, which is great. 14:59 <@antigulp> ais523: I was actually chatting with TNNT participants about making one. Previously, we just used cards created by Luxidream and disperse. 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Rog Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:74143 (22:16:11) 15:00 I basically haven't interacted with NetHackathon at all, although I'm vaguely interested in doing so 15:00 I feel like I'd want to invent some sort of way to combine a termcast and a voice broadcast, that doesn't rely on streaming sites 15:00 <@shadow_rider> nethack bingo tournament would go so hard 15:00 it is very slow to both type while playing NetHack and type into a text discussion, if doing them in parallel one of them would have to be voice and it probably should be the commentary 15:01 (although speech-to-text NetHack would be funny, it probably wouldn't work very well) 15:01 [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Con Vam Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:74880 (1 day, 21:21:41) 15:01 <@shadow_rider> also @ais re carrycap conduct i agree conducts usually make the game more fun but carrycap seems like the least fun to me :p 15:01 [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Con Vam Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:74889 (1 day, 21:22:09) 15:02 <@antigulp> I usually stream a tmux session split between nethack, a twitch chat feed, a lynx browser of the wiki or something, and whatever goofy terminal program I can run in the final quadrant (cough cough cbonsai) 15:02 [backscroll] d&d rules are meant to be a guideline only, DM's don't have to and aren't even expected to adhere to all of them. they can change what they want as they see fit (such as armor weights, for example). dragon-scaled armor has been very well received in every variant that has it, I havent seen any complaints. in fact it's been the opposite 15:02 I've seen complaints but I forget who or where – it may have been devteam-internal 15:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Fem Law), 128 points, T:440, killed by a small mimic 15:02 devteam doesnt count. most of you are resistant to change 15:03 I know you aren't including me in that, even though I have a few unpopular opinions 15:03 at least you're willing to experiment 15:03 i'm not a fan of every change you've made, but I respect the fact that you're willing to try 15:03 <@antigulp> ais523: I've got to get to class, but if you ever want to get involved in NetHackathon talk to disperse. He's great 15:03 ais523 you should sign up for the next nethackathon 15:04 <@antigulp> Anyway, my radical nethack balance change proposal is to implement Sil's mindepth mechanic byyyyeeeeeeee allllll 15:04 Later! 15:04 I should too, really 15:04 the funny thing is, the number of changes I've made (to vanilla at least) is small enough, and many of them uncontroversial enough, that there probably is someone (other than me) who actually is a fan of every change I've made 15:04 [hdf-us] [hackm] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:70492 (2 days, 6:59:52) 15:04 Oh, before I forget - does 3.7 have working disenchantment attacks against monsters? 15:04 see ya Umbire, @antigulp 15:05 although the odds are against it in the case of any particular player 15:05 I'm not leaving, was saying later to kes 15:05 Umbire: I don't know that offhand 15:05 Umbire oh heh 15:05 I'll have to check if I have the brain space to dislodge from my usual wiki nonsense 15:05 and prepping for tabletop tonight (incidental to this convo) 15:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DramaticBeets (Val Hum Fem Law), 1820 points, T:2611, killed by a gnome 15:06 I get emailed every time there's a commit to the devteam repository, so things like that I can often remember from the back of my mind by reading my email, but I'm not actively involved with that sort of change and haven't made any such changes myself 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 grayswandir", got "a silver saber named Grayswandir", on T:13678 15:06 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:07 that "rustproof" seems a bit redundant :-D 15:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] nudista (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5749 15:07 heh 15:07 probably muscle memory for wishes 15:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Regne (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:3503 (0:55:25) 15:07 always slap on 'rustproof' or 'fixed' 15:07 i do it too a lot of times 15:08 YANI or possibly Evil Variant: if you wish for an object rustproof, but that type of object doesn't rust anyway, there's a chance the wish respects the "rustproof" part rather than the specified item category when resolving the contradiction 15:08 hah 15:08 wind up with iron grayswandir 15:08 but hey, its rustproof 15:08 OK, that's much funnier than the way I was thinking about it 15:09 :) 15:09 <@antigulp> I think hothraxxa might climb through the screen if you did that lol 15:10 heheh 15:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:11 ais523 are you going to play TNNT this year? 15:11 K2: I haven't decided yet, but probably 15:11 * K2 nods 15:11 yeah it's never a bad idea to wish for a fixed item so most people just Do It 15:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1704 15:11 my mental health fluctuates a lot, some days I am more up to things than other days 15:12 whom among us, really 15:12 sometimes I'm doing badly enough that I can't concentrate on NetHack, sometimes I'm doing well enough that I'd rather use my mental energy for more productive things and don't have enough time to play NetHack 15:12 I have a variant I wanted to code 15:12 ais523, mood 15:12 though it's mostly the latter 15:12 and sometimes I just really want a computer game to sink a month's worth of time into 15:12 yeeeeeeeeee 15:12 <@antigulp> ais523: Unfortunately relatable 15:13 I played a 3.6 game on NAO recently as practice, and died on Astral 15:13 I am not sure what conclusions to draw from this 15:13 i've probably mentioned this before, ais523 if you ever feel up to it, the game start menu you made for acehack is awesome, and I wish it was part of vanilla nethack. you should made a version of it for 3.7 15:14 its a server admins dream 15:14 K2: it is very controversial, some players feel like it is trying to encourage them to startscum 15:14 have fun implementing that for all windowports 15:15 paxed: maybe it doesn't have to be? I think the character selection menu is one thing that windowports are allowed to customize independently of the core, isn't it? 15:15 <@antigulp> I coded a roguelike in curses from scratch and I just want to shout out whoever wrote the NetHack curses port. It's such a nice library, but there are so many tiny, frustrating "gotchas" to it. 15:15 although then you get the alternative issue that some windowports are better at startscumming than others 15:15 well look at it this way: players are gonna startscum anyways no matter what. if they can do that without creating hundreds or even thousands of junk xlogfile entries, dumplogs and ttyrec files, that's great from a server admin perspective 15:15 ais523: but does nh4 menu do quit a lot more? 15:15 quite* 15:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:14685 15:15 NH4 has vanilla-like character selection, I backed away from the AceHack approach due to the controversy 15:16 K2: I definitely agree 15:16 I can see an argument for having a server-specific character selection patch that isn't in vanilla, it would probably be politically easier 15:16 3.6 was controversal. and now it's everyone fav 15:16 not everyone, I prefer both 3.4.3 and 3.7 to 3.6 15:16 most everyone :P 15:17 althought 3.7 is gaining a fair amount of traction 15:17 <@antigulp> 3.7 for life 15:17 -t 15:17 I like 3.7 a bunch but I can't play it on my phone when I'm bored 15:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "Blessed fireproof +2 The Sceptre of Might", got "a blessed mace named the Sceptre of Might", on T:2451 15:17 (yet) 15:17 Hope you had enough HP for that 15:17 anyways. food for thought 15:17 well we didn't immediately get a death message, so it's probably OK? 15:18 gotta run (dad stuff), back later 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:29822 (8:14:35) 15:18 <@antigulp> ais523: How do you keep track of carrying capacity for conducts? 15:18 the funny thing is, AceHack's starting menu was mostly intended to reduce spoiler dependence for new players, the startscum thing is just because I noticed a side effect was that it allowed for xlog-free startscumming and thought that seemed useful for servers, so I added a button for it 15:19 @antigulp: carry something heavy, or don't carry something that would normally reduce weight 15:20 [hdf-us] [nh4] Witkenstein (Pullings) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1382 points, T:5, quit 15:20 so the conduct is in effect reducing the burden limit rather than being a "you go over this and you broke the conduct" 15:20 the most infamous is probably the large box ascension (which got a tribute in TNNT) 15:21 I might try it again with a chest sometime, although that seems like it might be significantly difficult, I am not sure whether it would make being burdened a good idea 15:21 <@antigulp> Ohhhh, interesting. 15:22 <@antigulp> On the one hand, that sounds like it might encourage the kind of improvisational gameplay I like. On the other, Baldur's Gate 2 has resoundingly reduced my tolerance for inventory management. 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4563 (0:27:20) 15:22 I'm currently coming round to thinking that "wishless, except" is a better way to get that sort of improvisational gameplay, but haven't figured out what the "except" is yet 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:4653 (0:28:37) 15:24 no wishes + no polypiling definitely forces improvisation, but it seems too difficult to be fun at present, because sometimes the game doesn't give you the resources you need 15:24 actually "no wishes, no polypiling, swapchest allowed" might be a great balance but it only works in November 15:25 fiddling around on local gurr port has given me a lot of resource-sticky games 15:25 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 15:25 have a healer that's cleared quest but found only sacks 15:26 <@antigulp> Aside from being back on my variant-coding bullshit, I'm considering trying to do a vanilla run where the earliest floor I am allowed to go to is limited by the turncount. So every X number of turns, the next floor of the dungeon is no longer allowed. Basically, forcing my own mindepth implementation. 15:26 took ages (though not as long) to get a proper artigift too, which turned out to be Vorpal 15:27 was making plenty of do with an aklys and a mace I pilfered from a throne room 15:27 you may need to modify that for the Quest, and will need to modify it for the asc run 15:27 also need to work out what to do if you get trapped in the Mines (fail the conduct?) 15:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3696 15:28 Vlad's could also be a problem, sometimes I have trouble finding it 15:28 Sil gets away with this due to being linear 15:29 incidentally, FTL does something very similar, its main clock is a "you can't go to these earlier-in-the-game areas" clock that is very fast, meaning you can only get a fraction of what's available in each sector 15:29 <@antigulp> I figured I would probably just skip the mines, then get far enough ahead in order to make it in the quest and Vlad's at a good tc, but yeah. 15:30 <@antigulp> Good point with FTL. God, FTL's clock is strict. 15:30 I guess conducts don't particularly need to worry about avoiding unwinnable situations 15:30 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a bone orcish helm on an altar, on T:5895 (0:35:25) 15:31 I made an FTL variant once, but I left the clock in place (some variants remove it) 15:31 <@shadow_rider> heh that makes me think of dcss zot clock which gives you a set number of turns in each branch that only decrement when you are in that branch 15:31 <@shadow_rider> it would be kinda interesting to me if you only got X number of turns on each given floor 15:31 I have lost track of DCSS balance controversies, I stopped paying attention to them years ago 15:32 <@shadow_rider> so only a limited amount of time to take advantage of each level, but can backtrack 15:32 <@antigulp> I really like the food drops change in 3.7. It doesn't quite drive the player onward in the way that other games' clocks do, but it's a step in the right direction imo. 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed haexwise's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:15349 15:33 well, this was a case where the right direction was very very clear to just about everyone, and the only controversial factor is how far in that direction to move 15:33 <@antigulp> Idk, I think NetHack kind of suffers from a food clock which is really punishing to new players, but not relevant to experienced players, etc. etc. I've already talked about this lol 15:33 it is partially new player / experienced player, but it is also partially early game / late game 15:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:64885 (1 day, 14:25:37) 15:33 with the conflation being because the new players don't generally get out of the early game 15:34 <@flugkiller> That's actually quite similar to what dcss was like with food (for spellcasters in particular) 15:34 but, there is a new player / experienced player difference and I think it is primarily down to exploration efficiency 15:34 the experience player will be able to explore the first few levels with much less backtracking than the new player 15:35 <@antigulp> Mmmm, true. Hadn't considered that. 15:35 and their time spent searching will be spent more efficiently 15:35 <@shadow_rider> heh but why do i feel like i spent more time backtracking the more experience i get 15:35 actually, NetHack's search mechanic is one of the largest negative impacts on new players remaining, and may not be that interesting for experts either? 15:35 @shadow_rider: you probably do but it is backtracking between levels rather than within levels 15:36 <@shadow_rider> ah fair point 15:36 and "backtrack to heal" which is something that I have been intentionally trying to reduce in 3.7, primarily by buffing the alternatives 15:36 backtrack-to-heal is a significant strategy especially in 3.6, and one that I was doing intentional balance testing on in some of the tournaments 15:37 I think most of the devteam dislike it, but not all for the same reasons? 15:37 <@shadow_rider> i really need to play 3.7 sometime because i don’t really know how the changes feel 15:38 <@flugkiller> What's the food drops change that happened on 3.7? 15:38 <@flugkiller> What's the food drops change that happened in 3.7? 15:38 the primary change is that most monsters no longer death-drop food, other than their own corpse 15:38 (unless they have the M2_COLLECT flag) 15:38 that's why I said "most" :-) 15:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] haexwise (Pri Hum Mal Law), 6413 points, T:4310, killed by a horse, while praying 15:39 a few other exceptions like soldier starting rations 15:39 <@antigulp> Search has always struck me as a sort of relic mechanic. I'm also not sure if it really serves a purpose at this point. 15:39 was "obvious" to me, but not to flugs 15:39 :B 15:39 <@flugkiller> Oh, so there's basically less permafood in the game then 15:39 Yeah, but there's still A Lot 15:39 there is one extra guaranteed ration in the early game, partly to compensate but mostly to fix the issue that sometimes the game didn't generate enough early 15:39 <@flugkiller> Seems reasonable to tighten the clock 15:40 there's also some extra rations elsewhere to accommodate, e.g. Monk 15:40 <@shadow_rider> ok i like guaranteed ration 15:40 who're expected to keep vegetarian conduct at a minimumd 15:40 <@shadow_rider> good change 15:40 it always generates on the Mines branch level, but doesn't otherwise have any particular generation location, it's just mixed into the pool of items that randomly generate with the level (and one more generates, it isn't replacing an existing item) 15:40 there are extra rations on the Monk quest to make them easier to play as vegetarian despite the change 15:41 although those possibly don't go far enough 15:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) genocided electric eels, on T:64957 (1 day, 14:33:01) 15:41 (it isn't guaranteed to be a food ration in particular; could also be lembas or cram, although it's usually the regular food ration) 15:41 There's also tins of spinach as well 15:42 oh, I think that wasn't me, it is probably a good change though 15:42 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:42 a lot of the extra stuff is on the home level to boot 15:42 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 15:42 like, I can imagine ways to screw up the details, but most sensible ways to do that seem good 15:42 <@shadow_rider> spinach is a trap 15:42 the extra rations were on the home level intentionally, otherwise they would be too late in the game 15:42 <@shadow_rider> you think it’s like vegetable and doesn’t provide much food but it is all the food 15:43 it might not be a trap for fixing nutrition issues? 15:43 <@shadow_rider> choke and die 15:43 just don't be satiated 4Head 15:46 shit, I actually don't think I noted the extra food for monk on the monk article directly 15:46 did I? 15:46 I'll swing by to see once I finish the initial tasks I set out 15:46 I have such mixed thoughts about the wiki – because my job as a wiki editor / game populariser feels like it is to make the wiki as accurate as possible – but my job as a DevTeam member often feels like it is to change the game in ways that are hard for the wiki to accurately describe 15:47 I think my primary compromise is to settle on not personally changing the coverage for unreleased versions on the wiki at all – no {{upcoming}}, no editing of the related content, etc. 15:48 I have no objection to other people doing it, but I feel like these are things that should be discovered by the playerbase rather than the DevTeam (even if they just do it by reading our commit messages) 15:48 like, half the point of changing the game is to give people new things to discover, and if the DevTeam discloses it themselves that is negating that aspect of the change 15:53 <@antigulp> That makes a lot of sense. Definitely two competing roles, but sounds like a good way to resolve that conflict. 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8471 (0:59:00) 15:56 <@antigulp> "Chang the game in ways that are hard for the wiki to accurately describe." I think I know what you mean. Designing things that make the game feel alive, rather than just a collection of facts in a wikispace? 15:56 <@antigulp> "Change the game in ways that are hard for the wiki to accurately describe." I think I know what you mean. Designing things that make the game feel alive, rather than just a collection of facts in a wikispace? 15:57 yeah, I've pondered that in my own time 15:58 sometimes it can be as simple as "this is a simple and obvious and easily learned fact, but it is not at all obvious which page to put it on", which is a result of the game becoming more interconnected 16:00 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a dwarf mummy, on T:8949 (1:05:05) 16:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:65152 (1 day, 14:49:52) 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 842 points, T:1592, killed by a hill orc 16:01 in a way this is an advantage of NetHack's "pile of special cases" coding style, we don't have to be able to categorise things as a monster stat, a property of the level, etc. to be able to implement them 16:02 I think part of why I zone in so hard on this is to reduce the number of times where it feels like the game hands out a seemingly random "fuck you" 16:02 as a partial rationalization 16:02 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 16:02 I also do it to train my own source-parsing ability 16:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Regne (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5505 (1:53:30) 16:05 [hdf-us] [4k] Ombre (ombre) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Minetown temple, on T:3390 16:07 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:09 [hdf-us] [hackm] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:71412 (2 days, 8:02:37) 16:09 [hdf-us] [hackm] arnibald (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:71413 (2 days, 8:02:47) 16:13 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:15 [hdf-us] [un] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2025 points, T:3801, killed by a giant spider 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:11154 (1:23:30) 16:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) put Death down for a little nap, on T:65193 (1 day, 15:06:28) 16:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:65194 (1 day, 15:07:03) 16:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed figurine of a woodchuck named Carl", on T:65199 (1 day, 15:09:52) 16:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Dro Fem Cha), 5520311 points, T:65200, ascended 16:25 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1728474782.evil.html 16:28 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:28 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 16:29 [hdf-eu] [nh4] Sergio (ZlojSerge) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 38690 points, T:6076, killed by a giant mimic 16:29 -!- mobileuser has quit [Client Quit] 16:29 [hdf-eu] [nh343] OhNoNotAgain (Val Dwa Fem Law) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:30294 16:29 does Carl keep being wished out of the demigod bar, only to immediately ascend back up? 16:29 he's the welcome committee 16:29 it sobers him up 16:30 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 16:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DramaticBeets (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3644 16:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DramaticBeets (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3651 16:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5178 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 gray dragon scale mail", got "a gray dragon scale mail", on T:20124 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:14496 (1:45:28) 16:43 [hdf-au] [evil] Regne (Rog Dro Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7279 (2:30:47) 16:44 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:47 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Rudwyk (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:34264 16:47 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Rudwyk (Rog Orc Mal Cha) picked up the Book of the Dead, on T:34265 16:48 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 65335 points, T:15577, quit 16:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:51 -!- phinxy 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Neu), 0 points, T:287, killed by a system shock 17:13 [hdf-eu] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 75 points, T:1242, died of starvation, while fainted 17:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:35, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:5, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) destroyed wvc's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:2687 17:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] widmerpool (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 220 points, T:1118, killed by a small mimic 17:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 68 points, T:107, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Twilight Sparkle 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a pyramidal amulet on an altar, on T:3354 17:18 [hdf-eu] [dyn] sdfl (post163) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 26 points, T:16, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:19 [hdf-eu] [nh4] als (post163) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 17:19 [hdf-eu] [ace] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] widmerpool (Tou Hum Mal Neu) found Mjollnir on the floor, on T:257 17:20 [hdf-us] [dyn] fl (post163) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 17:20 [hdf-us] [dyn] alsdf (post163) (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 17:20 [hdf-us] [dyn] laf (post163) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 17:21 [hdf-us] [dyn] sdl (post163) (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:22 [hdf-us] [nh4] ld (post163) (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:38, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 17:22 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:5, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Nob Dro Fem Cha), 184 points, T:102, slipped while mounting a saddled giant spider 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 111 points, T:565, killed by a small mimic 17:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 5 points, T:83, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:29, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (orcs), on T:1 17:36 [hdf-us] [nndnh] tkirkby (Dhl-Hea Dro Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:44879 17:40 [hdf-au] [nndnh] post163 (Nob Inc Fem Neu), 0 points, T:21, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:46 -!- floating_eye has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:46 -!- floating_eye has joined #hardfought 17:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Bin Vam Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:9330 17:50 [hdf-eu] [spl] post163 (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, zapped herself with a spell 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) averted death (killed by an orcish arrow), on T:6784 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7643 17:57 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Bar Cen Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:28512 (7:21:49) 18:01 [hdf-au] [spl] post163 (Ran Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1925 18:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DramaticBeets (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray ooze, on T:7363 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 18:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Regne (Rog Dro Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an orc shaman, on T:11627 (3:45:54) 18:03 -!- graves has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:03 [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Con Vam Fem Cha) genocided gray dragons, on T:75845 (1 day, 22:14:38) 18:04 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 18:04 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 18:04 -!- lorimer has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by remirol))] 18:04 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 18:05 -!- 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murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1 18:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 20 points, T:1, caught herself in her own ball of cold 18:22 [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Con Vam Fem Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:76506 (1 day, 22:33:04) 18:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Bar Gia Mal Cha) murdered Mew, his faithful kitten, on T:765 (0:06:42) 18:23 [hdf-eu] [spl] post163 (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 157 points, T:238, killed by a dwarf 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3465 18:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 255 points, T:1129, killed by a dwarf 18:28 [hdf-eu] [spl] post163 (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 322 points, T:860, killed by a chicken 18:33 [hdf-au] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 771 points, T:1746, killed by a gnome lord 18:37 -!- Regne has joined #hardfought 18:39 [hdf-us] [nndnh] tkirkby (Dhl-Hea Dro Fem Neu) wished for "blessed Vilya", on T:46375 18:41 behavior, but, should pet spiders hide under a cursed item?  as a pet it seems it would avoid cursed items, period. 18:43 [hdf-us] [nndnh] tkirkby (Dhl-Hea Dro Fem Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of full healing", on T:46435 18:44 ^vanilla behavior, but, — 18:48 [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Con Vam Fem Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:77164 (1 day, 22:59:17) 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:8026 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Val Hum Fem Law), 11666 points, T:9171, quit 19:08 -!- Regne has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 938 points, T:1249, killed by a crossbow bolt 19:10 @v?mumak 19:10 mumak (q) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: 4d12 butt physical, 2d6 bite physical | Align: -2 | genocidable, herbivore, thick hide, infravis 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) became literate by engraving "aaa", on T:3515 (0:33:52) 19:19 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:3688 (0:34:51) 19:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1016 19:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1357 points, T:1117, killed by a dingo 19:29 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4699 (0:44:32) 19:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Val Cen Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3089 (0:29:03) 19:32 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:3286 (0:49:36) 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:5162 (0:48:53) 19:34 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Floppers (Val Cen Fem Neu), 1735 points, T:3242, killed by an elven king, while sleeping 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:77042 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:77048 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:77093 19:49 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a sling on an altar, on T:6738 (1:04:53) 19:51 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a stone small shield entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:6802 (1:06:47) 19:56 [hdf-eu] [spl] post163 (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1050 points, T:919, killed by a giant spider 19:56 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a leather cloak entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:7164 (1:11:57) 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:77461 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:77471 19:59 -!- Hungrymotu has joined #hardfought 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:77549 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 100 points, T:70, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh343] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 20:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 20:09 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had a staff of matter entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:37904 (11:29:19) 20:09 [hdf-au] [evil] HungryMotu (Bar Cen Mal Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:28820 (7:36:19) 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a shield of reflection entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:7723 (1:25:16) 20:11 [hdf-us] [slshm] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 28 points, T:205, killed by a fox 20:16 -!- Hungrymotu has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:18 -!- Hungrymotu has joined #hardfought 20:24 just killed a minesflayer with 6 ya ama 20:28 [hdf-us] [dyn] fl (post163) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 229 points, T:497, killed by a jackal 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh4] dls (post163) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 20:34 <@bugsniper> Umbire, would you manage if it was a master minesflayer? 20:34 lot stickier for sure 20:35 had scare monster on the upstair and was prepared to lure it to me 20:35 then it went towards an item on a sleeping gas trap 20:35 and I'm like "no shot it dealt itself off like that" 20:35 as it was, I whipped out the longbow, got 3 straight multishots in 3 fire attempts and that was that 20:36 helps I was like, XL 7 already 20:39 -!- Sgeo_ has joined #hardfought 20:39 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:40 <@bugsniper> And was it real brain food? 20:42 -!- Menchers has quit [Excess Flood] 20:44 [hdf-eu] [spl] post163 (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 410 points, T:1218, killed by a homunculus 20:47 [hdf-eu] [spl] post163 (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 248 points, T:528, killed by a giant bat 20:48 no corpse so 20:49 -!- Menchers has joined #hardfought 20:49 shame it was a local game I'd love to have shared a replay 20:50 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Mer Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 20:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] widmerpool (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 90 points, T:730, killed by a falling object 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3 points, T:67, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh4] Cuthbert (Ackbladder) (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 32392 points, T:2655, killed by a housecat 21:17 [hdf-us] [nndnh] tkirkby (Dhl-Hea Dro Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:47011 21:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] stash (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2391 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] stash (Val Dwa Fem Law), 854 points, T:2452, killed by a giant spider 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Cav Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5332 21:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Cav Hum Mal Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:5549 21:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 6940 points, T:8958, killed by a white unicorn 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 97 points, T:268, fell into a pit 21:31 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 15816 points, T:47183, killed by Geryon, while paralyzed by a monster 21:32 [hdf-eu] [spl] post163 (Ran Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1667 21:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:42 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Val Hum Fem Law) was bestowed with Mjollnir by Tyr, on T:27542 21:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] levoittiel (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 3908 points, T:3444, killed by a giant mimic 21:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] stash (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1330 21:44 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4354 points, T:11165, killed by a panther 21:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] stash (Val Dwa Fem Law) was bestowed with Mjollnir by Tyr, on T:2138 21:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Cav Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Giantslayer by Ishtar, on T:7026 21:56 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 460 points, T:1238, killed by a giant bat 22:00 [hdf-us] [dyn] sl (post163) (Kni Hum Fem Law), 47 points, T:24, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2 points, T:14, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] stash (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "foo", on T:3074 22:01 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Elf Mal Neu), 89 points, T:58, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Cav Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Werebane by Ishtar, on T:8670 22:02 <@post163> !who 22:02 @post163: [hdf-us] stash [nh370] Cropper [nh370] KrO2 [dnh] Pullings [nh4] fubaz [evil] dnnh [slth] arnibald [hackm] Frozty [hackm] post163 [hackm] Bourne [dyn] :: [hdf-eu] post163 [spl] :: [hdf-au] No current players 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh343] efot (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:45361 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] stash (Val Dwa Fem Law) was bestowed with Dragonbane by Tyr, on T:3932 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh343] efot (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:45528 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] stash (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2831 points, T:4954, killed by a vampire lord, while sleeping off a magical draught 22:23 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a knife entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:19503 (3:38:03) 22:29 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4547 points, T:9424, killed by a mumak 22:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:77617 22:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Earth, on T:77617 22:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:77618 22:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Air, on T:77679 22:31 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Hob Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 22:32 -!- aosdict has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.3.1] 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Fire, on T:77756 22:35 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2251 points, T:2568, killed by a werewolf 22:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Water, on T:77766 22:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] elmegil (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 627 points, T:1444, killed by a dwarf king 22:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:77837 22:39 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:20576 (3:54:08) 22:40 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2616 (0:18:31) 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2762 (0:19:38) 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic harp", got "a harp", on T:77879 22:44 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:3038 (0:22:42) 22:48 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5692 points, T:3802, killed by a giant ant 22:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) found Frost Brand carried by a monster, on T:77927 22:52 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] elmegil (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5368 points, T:2576, killed by a gold golem 22:52 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 13 steel darts on an altar, on T:3880 (0:31:16) 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 4138445 points, T:77991, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nethack/dumplog/1728741004.nh.html 22:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:35494 (10:25:35) 22:56 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) genocided disenchanters, on T:4014 (0:35:06) 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] stash (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1046 points, T:2965, killed by a bugbear, while sleeping 23:00 [hdf-us] [hackm] Frozty (Hea Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:33876 (1 day, 13:50:00) 23:00 [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7487 points, T:4298, killed by a drider 23:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2666 points, T:1487, killed by a wolf 23:04 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 465 points, T:1078, killed by a small mimic 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:36057 (10:40:30) 23:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1330 23:12 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1983 (0:14:17) 23:12 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1182 points, T:1644, killed by a kitten 23:17 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:23520 (4:32:14) 23:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3128 (0:21:14) 23:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3603 23:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a dagger entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:4041 (0:31:09) 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8774 points, T:4430, killed by a dwarf, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 13920 points, T:7565, killed by a xorn 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 362 points, T:533, killed by a gnome 23:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4397 (0:34:12) 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh4] Brunhilda (Ackbladder) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 28274 points, T:1318, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 23:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a mithril stiletto entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5617 (0:45:06) 23:44 [hdf-us] [evil] fubaz (Arc Dwa Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Quetzalcoatl, on T:24418 (4:59:23) 23:45 [hdf-us] [slth] dnnh (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 11498 points, T:3404, quit 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh4] Biggerstaff (Ackbladder) (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 30701 points, T:1718, killed by a bat 23:53 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrsAaX1u4HU im aliensongwriter & much more and this is sound produced by me myself & aliens 23:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:699 (0:01:57) 23:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Trt Mal Neu) killed Gollum, on T:867 (0:03:25) 23:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Trt Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1053 (0:04:55)