00:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5341
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00:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Pux (Hea Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 2 darts on an altar, on T:3310
00:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:50318 (9:30:29)
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00:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4559 points, T:8070, killed by a boiling potion, while frozen by a potion
00:28 <petra_the_kat> damn. last-ditch effort, i was surrounded, blind, had prayed, and tried to get out of it with a scroll of fire
00:28 <petra_the_kat> i was not expecting it to work
00:36 <anselmus> sometimes it's better to just quit
00:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law), 566 points, T:1621, killed by a Woodland-elf
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00:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 5093 points, T:4273, killed by a carnivorous bag
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01:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Graysire (Brd Gno Fem Neu), 166 points, T:420, killed by a dwarf zombie
01:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu) found Vorpal Blade on the floor, on T:2319
01:03 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] youngster (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2035
01:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 407 points, T:944, killed by a water moccasin
01:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 124 points, T:562, killed by an acid blob
01:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 4355 points, T:3396, killed by a hobgoblin, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze
01:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh4] Aetheres (Val Dwa Fem Law), 68787 points, T:19246, killed by an Olog-hai
01:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 1096 points, T:1358, killed by a kitten
01:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Pux (Hea Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:6112
01:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:53291 (10:17:57)
01:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:53292 (10:18:02)
01:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) completed his quest without incident, on T:53495 (10:20:27)
01:31 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [hackm] HungryMotu (Val Gia Fem Law) performed a technique for the first time - weapon practice, on T:3192 (0:45:23)
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01:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 4012 points, T:4905, killed by a bolt of fire
01:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon (broad pick) for the first time, on T:4777
01:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] Bau (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Raggo the Gnome King, on T:9106
01:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 109 points, T:531, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph
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01:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 749 points, T:5324, killed by an imp, while frozen by a potion
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02:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 331 points, T:863, killed by a larva
02:46 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] youngster (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", got "a gray dragon scale mail", on T:2914
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02:55 <anselmus> !lastgame aetheres
02:55 <Beholder> anselmus: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Aetheres/nethack4/dumplog/2023-10-12%2005%3A10%3A52%2C%20Aetheres-Val-Dwa-Fem-Law%2C%20died.txt
02:58 <anselmus> wow: an uncursed scroll of scare monster named confusemonster,destarm,fire,food,gold,magicmap,scaremnst,tele
02:59 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [hackm] HungryMotu (Val Gia Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:8086 (1:39:17)
03:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Mon Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2911 (1:44:12)
03:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] aximili (Kni Hum Mal Law) Sneem, the second-hand bookstore proprietrix, has been killed, on T:47409
03:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:12660 (8:19:34)
03:36 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [hackm] HungryMotu (Val Gia Fem Law) killed the Rat King, on T:11352 (2:16:50)
03:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:14256 (7:09:17)
03:46 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] youngster (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4919
03:48 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> What a mess, i picked up the loadstone first but luckily i had a cancellation wand to sort it out
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04:11 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [hackm] HungryMotu (Val Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:12328 (2:32:24)
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04:29 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [hackm] HungryMotu (Val Gia Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased wallet of perseus", on T:13291 (2:50:53)
04:48 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] youngster (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6643
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04:59 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [hackm] HungryMotu (Val Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15633 (3:20:29)
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05:17 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3324
05:23 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4885
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05:35 <PavelB> I can't get this thing to read my SYMBOLS definitions :V
05:36 <PavelB> I used to keep my symbols file, but then I updated xnh and it replaced the symbols file with the default one.
05:36 <PavelB> *symbol definitions in my symbols file
05:37 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 8470 points, T:7680, killed by a panther
05:38 <PavelB> hmm, is there a way to tell nethack to read from a different symbols file than the one in HACKDIR
05:46 <bhaak> 1. backups 2. backup 3. backups 4. I don't know
05:47 <bhaak> for the enhanced1 symset, you can have single glyph definition in your config file
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05:48 <PavelB> Just one? That's a weird limitation
05:49 <bhaak> one definition per glyh :)
05:50 <bhaak> looking at the code, it doesn't look like you can have a separate symbols file
05:50 <PavelB> Basically, I don't like how Enhanced1 makes open doors into medium shade, so I wanted to turn them back into - and |
05:50 <PavelB> And it didn't work
05:54 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14863 (9:38:21)
06:01 <paxed> SYMBOL=S_hodoor:|
06:01 <paxed> SYMBOL=S_hcdoor:-
06:01 <paxed> that doesn't work?
06:06 <paxed> ah
06:06 <bhaak> shouldn't it be SYMBOLS=...
06:06 <paxed> if you use symset:Enhanced1 you need to define the symbols in U+nnnn format
06:07 <paxed> bhaak: just SYMB is enough
06:08 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4685 (2:35:22)
06:08 <paxed> SYMBOL=S_hodoor:U+2502
06:08 <paxed> SYMBOL=S_hcdoor:U+2500
06:09 <paxed> also, need to change the symset before defining the new symbols
06:11 <bhaak> hmm, not S_hcdoor, but S_vodoor
06:11 <paxed> ?
06:12 <bhaak> hcdoor is horizontal closed door. PavelB wants to change the open doors
06:13 <paxed> that was just what i used to test it
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06:20 <bhaak> it you want the ASCII versions instead, it's SYMBOLS=S_hodoor:U+007C and SYMBOLS=S_vodoor:U+002D and you need to set the symset OPTIONS=symset:enhanced1 before you redefine the SYMBOLS. the enhanced1 symset is a bit weird in that way.
06:24 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:5754 (2:51:24)
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06:55 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 47616 points, T:5759, killed by an Uruk-hai
07:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] roisto (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4218
07:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:18358 (10:41:53)
07:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] roisto (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed petrakat's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:4479
07:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] roisto (Bar Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dart on an altar, on T:4560
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07:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed The Champion of Pompeji, on T:23488
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07:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] roisto (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 4996 points, T:5257, killed by an elf mummy
07:28 <mobileuser> @h?dust vortex
07:28 <Beholder> dust vortex (v) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 20 | Res: sleep poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 2d8 engulf blind | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, breathless, mindless, passes-bars, vegan
07:29 <mobileuser> @h?yellow light
07:29 <Beholder> yellow light (y) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 5 | Spd: 15 | Res: fire cold sleep disintegrate shock poison acid petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 0 | Atk: 10d20 explode blind | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, amorphous, breathless, mindless, unsolid, infravis, passes-bars, vegan
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07:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] roisto (Bar Orc Mal Cha) was bestowed with Cleaver by Set, on T:2220
07:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:24423
07:49 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of magic resistance, on T:6324 (3:31:33)
08:01 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Ricardo (And-Ana And Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:13650
08:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3103 (2:19:30)
08:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:25000
08:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) wished for "2 uncursed scrolls of genocide", on T:25003
08:17 <mobileuser> @h?screamer
08:17 <Beholder> screamer (F) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 5 | Spd: 4 | Res: poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 7 | Atk: 3d3 touch loud | Align: 0 | genocidable, breathless, mindless, vegan
08:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 724 points, T:3945, killed by a hill orc, while fainted from lack of food
08:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:25006
08:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] xdminsy (Con Dro Fem Cha), 99 points, T:498, killed by a fox
08:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:25160
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08:32 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Rog Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:8613
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08:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:25666
08:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed Mr. Gemein, on T:25708
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08:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:26076
08:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed Zaphod Breeblebrox, on T:26421
08:53 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] youngster (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:9334
08:54 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 6773 points, T:8873, killed by a pony
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08:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:26943
09:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:27094
09:03 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> damned gelatinous cube spawned in the soko prize room, i was agitated every time it slurped something i thought the prize was gone
09:07 <Loggers_VIII> if it slurps the prize you can kill it and get it back
09:07 <Loggers_VIII> non-organic items just get added to its inventory
09:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:27304
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09:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed platinum yendorian express card", on T:142368 (2 days, 10:19:57)
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09:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Mal Law), 5172 points, T:4275, killed by a soldier ant
09:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:142387 (2 days, 10:24:04)
09:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 2479 points, T:3467, killed by a hill orc
09:34 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1403 points, T:2809, killed by a rabid rat
09:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:28108
09:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 471 points, T:701, killed by a bolt of fire
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09:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) murdered Sugar, her faithful kitten, on T:337 (0:01:13)
09:41 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1419 points, T:1098, killed by a gnome
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09:43 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 441 points, T:910, killed by a gnome
09:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:28326
09:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:142414 (2 days, 10:41:33)
09:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:28723
09:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:29222
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09:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Rog Orc Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3285
09:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Law) had a steel dwarvish short sword entrusted to her by Mercury, on T:142653 (2 days, 10:49:31)
09:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:29312
10:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful giant rat, on T:2169
10:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful sewer rat, on T:2183
10:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 2692 points, T:2961, zombified by a dwarf zombie
10:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:29491
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10:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:213 (0:01:07)
10:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:29514
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10:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Gla Dop Mal Neu), 3057486 points, T:29531, ascended
https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/slashthem/dumplog/1696212018.slth.txt
10:09 <Umbire> gg
10:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 898 points, T:2540, killed by a werejackal
10:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) genocided black dragons, on T:1162 (0:07:30)
10:13 <mobileuser> congrats malor!
10:13 <rld> <malor [@malorpower]> thanks
10:14 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] youngster (Kni Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:9934
10:15 <rld> <malor [@malorpower]> I'm up to 198 z-score now.  200 really seems reachable now!
10:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 844 points, T:2172, killed by a mountain dwarf
10:19 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] marioiscool (Mon Hum Mal Law), 106 points, T:440, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse
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10:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] arnibald (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Nightmare, on T:26305 (15:43:32)
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10:33 <petra_the_kat> The wiki says that monsters can only fall through a trap door 1 deep, but i can't find my pet on this floor
10:33 <petra_the_kat> ... Oh god what if it fell into the vault
10:33 <petra_the_kat> that would be so funny also horrible
10:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1515 points, T:2172, killed by a giant ant
10:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior (level 14), on T:32909
10:37 <Umbire> It's very possible, yes.
10:37 <petra_the_kat> it also doesn't look like there's an ad aerium on this level so i might just be SOL
10:37 <petra_the_kat> also i just blew up my tele wand
10:37 <petra_the_kat> i could also murder a dwarf for their pick
10:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 21588 points, T:37258, killed by a gnome lord, while frozen by a monster's gaze
10:43 <petra_the_kat> Felix was not in the vault
10:43 <petra_the_kat> are you *sure* pets can only fall 1 level?
10:44 <Umbire> Yes.
10:45 <petra_the_kat> OK i have no clue then
10:46 <petra_the_kat> unless it starved and its corpse rotted
10:46 <petra_the_kat> i'd believe it
10:46 <petra_the_kat> I have a tripe ration though so i'll just get the next cat
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10:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3009 points, T:4865, killed by a giant ant
10:48 <petra_the_kat> Well there's one solution
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10:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2438
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11:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1816
11:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1584 points, T:2622, killed by a horse
11:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 73 points, T:101, killed by a falling rock
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11:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 speed boots", got "a greased pair of snow boots", on T:34078
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11:14 <oh6> fountain wish on level 19, of all places
11:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:34186
11:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) had a battle-axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:971 (0:05:26)
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11:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2267 (0:20:41)
11:24 <petra_the_kat> Do you need a pick or other digging to get into orcishtown?
11:24 <hackemslashem> Yea usually
11:24 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Rog Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6828
11:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6733
11:26 <PhantomLumina> You can also break through the bars if you happen to have acid on hand
11:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 3467 points, T:2612, killed by a piranha
11:26 <petra_the_kat> oh! i do have acid
11:26 <petra_the_kat> excellent
11:26 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 8113 points, T:6862, killed by an invisible dwarf
11:26 <petra_the_kat> no picks spawned above it in the mines
11:27 <petra_the_kat> hell yeah thanks PhantomLumina 
11:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed petrakat's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:3111
11:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] mchammer (Val Cen Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1006 (0:08:05)
11:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5994 points, T:6063, killed by a tiger
11:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3321
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11:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", got "a scroll of charging", on T:34460
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11:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2004 (0:29:09)
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11:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:49211
11:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3208 (0:38:28)
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12:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (Bin Orc Fem Non) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:49643
12:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law) was bestowed with Mjollnir by Tyr, on T:7346
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12:05 <petra_the_kat> wooh!
12:05 <petra_the_kat> is mjollnir better than excalibur?
12:07 <PhantomLumina> Excalibur is generally the best weapon available to a Valk
12:07 <PhantomLumina> but Mjollnir is pretty solid.
12:07 <PhantomLumina> It's a decent-to-good weapon held back from being a great one by its reliance on the shock damage bonuses and its weak base weapon type.
12:07 <Demo> it's actually a common misconception that grayswandir is a good weapon when it is actually one of the worst in the game and a +9 elven runesword its better than any universal artifact
12:08 <PhantomLumina> No one mentioned Grayswandir.
12:08 <Demo> yeah but i had to break out the mbm copypasta
12:08 <PhantomLumina> Ok.
12:09 <Demo> my +9 elven runesword senses were tingling
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12:12 <Loggers_VIII> do you mean elven broadsword?
12:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Law) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to her by Mercury, on T:146073 (2 days, 13:05:07)
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12:14 <Demo> elven runesword is an mbmism
12:14 <Demo> i assume he meant elven broadsword
12:15 <Loggers_VIII> ah
12:15 <Loggers_VIII> what's a mbm
12:15 <Demo> it is just such an interesting case study to try to understand how he got to the conclusions he did
12:16 <Demo> and outspoken spurned individual who made a "nethack variant" from just wizardmoding a save and setting things up (pretty cool concept) and also got in trouble for wiki editwars where he had crazy strategy ideas that he was adamant about and people didnt want to hear
12:16 <Demo> an*
12:16 <Loggers_VIII> the math
12:17 <Demo> a brilliant artist nobody understands or respects
12:17 <Loggers_VIII> it doesn't... it doesn't... you can't... arhjdjjakh
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12:21 <Demo> basically yes. its such a weird conclusion to reach
12:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:37493
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12:26 <jonadab> Grayswandir is only better than Excalibur once you get to the point where you can enchant things up.  Which means never in GruntHack, because something will cancel your inventory three seconds later.
12:27 <Demo> does excaling a long sword remove oprops from it in grunthack?
12:27 <jonadab> I don't know.
12:27 <jonadab> Probably?
12:27 <jonadab> Then again, it's GruntHack, so maybe not?
12:28 <Loggers_VIII> I think I heard something about an excalibur of reflection before
12:29 <Demo> i like to think sgrunt is cooler than to do that. some variant devs, not so cool. power creep is fun. the base nethack balance line isnt enough to get good granularity and depth with new content and changes.
12:29 <jonadab> YASI: a scroll that, when read, picks a random item from your inventory, checks to see if it can have oprops, and if so, adds a random oprop to it.
12:30 <Loggers_VIII> I think hackem is adding an oprop-adding scroll
12:30 <Demo> why would it do a random one?
12:30 <jonadab> Demo:  For balance reasons.
12:30 <Demo> that's just asking for the player to have to drop their items to select a specific item
12:30 <Loggers_VIII> so there's a chance to get bad ones
12:30 <jonadab> And also to make it a gambler's fever dream.
12:30 <Demo> no i mean a random item, not a random oprop
12:30 <jonadab> Oh, the item.  I guess it could be the wielded item?
12:30 <jonadab> You can wield basically anything, so that would probably be ok.
12:30 <Demo> or you could call getobj and prompt for an item?
12:31 <jonadab> (Because yes, the player can be holding only the item they want to add an oprop to anyway.)
12:31 <Demo> regardless, fiqhack has potions of wonder which when you dip an item in, act this way
12:31 <Loggers_VIII> should just say "what object do you want to add a magical property to"
12:31 <jonadab> Demo: Oh, right, I forgot about that.
12:31 <Demo> it is a fun mechanic
12:31 <Loggers_VIII> hackem is adding like 30 new oprops next version or something
12:32 <Demo> simply because it is indeed "a gambler's fever dream"
12:32 <Demo> well, not really, theres only good oprops mostly i think. the drinking them for a random intrinsic is the fun gambling part
12:32 <jonadab> Oh, can it not come up with fumbling or whatnot?
12:32 <Demo> one time i drank one on my valk and got slotless flying. it was like i was playing fourk
12:32 <Demo> yep it can
12:33 <PhantomLumina> Fumbling, aggravate monster, etc. etc.
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12:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1693
12:38 <APic> !PoM
12:38 <Beholder> APic: The moon is waning crescent; new moon in 1 day.
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12:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu) found Demonbane on the floor, on T:1423
12:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3470 points, T:2587, killed by a giant mimic
12:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1679 points, T:1976, killed by a magic missile zapped by a gnome
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12:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] arnibald (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed the invisible Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:30290 (18:14:11)
12:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Law) had a long sword entrusted to her by Mercury, on T:147672 (2 days, 13:48:10)
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13:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 16 points, T:83, killed by a bear trap
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13:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) found the Orb of Fate on the floor, on T:39830
13:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:39850
13:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:39854
13:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 8754 points, T:7594, killed by a dark elven watchman
13:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) found Frost Brand on the floor, on T:1184
13:22 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Kroo the Kobold King, on T:16914 (11:08:24)
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13:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1241
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13:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:2456
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13:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6522
13:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Mercury, on T:148811 (2 days, 14:28:41)
13:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1806 points, T:2751, killed by an arrow
13:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2090
13:47 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1575 (0:38:33)
13:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) genocided black dragons, on T:149030 (2 days, 14:44:51)
13:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) genocided gray dragons, on T:149030 (2 days, 14:44:57)
13:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) genocided green slimes, on T:149033 (2 days, 14:45:34)
13:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) genocided basilisks, on T:149034 (2 days, 14:45:43)
13:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:149035 (2 days, 14:46:01)
13:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Magicbane by Thoth, on T:8175
13:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) Artvin, the used armor dealership proprietor, has been killed, on T:736
13:56 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2020 points, T:3193, killed by a rothe
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13:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1392 points, T:852, killed by a small mimic
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14:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 10 points, T:85, killed by a sewer rat
14:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 730 points, T:1094, poisoned by an orcish dagger
14:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) Nosnehpets, the hardware store proprietor, has been killed, on T:41273
14:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) Izchak, the lighting store proprietor, has been killed, on T:41317
14:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) used a forge to create the Gauntlets of Purity, on T:149808 (2 days, 15:03:12)
14:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) Sarangan, the delicatessen proprietrix, has been killed, on T:41428
14:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) used a forge to create the Armor of Retribution, on T:149826 (2 days, 15:03:44)
14:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:1497
14:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) Wonotobo, the general store proprietrix, has been killed, on T:41523
14:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a water nymph, on T:8796
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14:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1823
14:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Bar Vam Mal Neu) killed Nightmare, on T:42834 (20:59:37)
14:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) Kalecik, the used armor dealership proprietrix, has been killed, on T:41790
14:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Bar Vam Mal Neu) made his first wish - "very historic blessed extinguished unlit thoroughly +5 dragonbane of sonic resistance named this won't work much longer", on T:42850 (21:03:06)
14:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] hasselhoff (Kni Dro Mal Cha) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:49002 (1 day, 19:48:05)
14:23 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:12050 (0:26:54)
14:27 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] marioiscool (Mon Hum Mal Law), 803 points, T:1779, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze
14:28 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:12901 (0:32:10)
14:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 21519 points, T:9729, killed by a zruty
14:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:150358 (2 days, 15:30:37)
14:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] RusselSouls (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 937 points, T:2009, killed by the Goblin King
14:41 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:14878 (0:44:22)
14:41 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) had Gleipnir bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:18217 (11:35:07)
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14:53 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:76137 (2 days, 5:45:34)
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14:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Evendur (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 20 points, T:107, killed by a poisonous corpse
14:55 <anselmus> nh4 still feels rough around the edges
14:56 <anselmus> really tedious interface sometimes
14:56 <anselmus> mostly a lot of unnecessary tabbing through messages
14:57 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2347
15:01 <anselmus> [hdf-us] [nh4] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:15220
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15:05 <Guest73> hi guys, playing using the webterm, but the Blue color for gnome lords and floating eyes is really hard to see. any tips?
15:05 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 427 points, T:2608, killed by a rothe
15:05 <Loggers_VIII> the only thing you can really do is turn up your brightness
15:05 <Loggers_VIII> the dark blue color is just kind of hard to see
15:06 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:76230 (2 days, 5:58:29)
15:07 <anselmus> who could've imagined that blue on black would be hard to see
15:07 <Loggers_VIII> me
15:08 * anselmus would propose making all monster white, but that would break "realism" *cough*
15:09 <Loggers_VIII> no way I don't want to farlook everything
15:10 <Loggers_VIII> I don't think nethack cares all too much about having realistic graphics :P
15:11 <Guest73> the problem isn't blue on black im pretty sure i've seen other versions of nethack alter the blue slightly.
15:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Evendur (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 671 points, T:1239, killed by a gnome lord
15:12 <Loggers_VIII> guest73, I doubt it
15:12 <anselmus> actually you're right, color isn't necessarily based on appearance
15:12 <Loggers_VIII> in other versions of vanilla it's the same color; no variant to my knowledge changes the shade of blue that floating eyes show up as, although I know one or two change the color of floating eyes to make them more visible
15:13 <anselmus> blue is noble, purple is royal, i see now
15:13 <Loggers_VIII> yeah magenta/purple is usually used for the strongest member of a mon class
15:13 <Loggers_VIII> brightmagenta should be used to differentiate mind flayers from dwarf kings and rodney from elvenkings though, IMO
15:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 3279 points, T:2953, killed by a tengu
15:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] RusselSouls (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 190 points, T:983, killed by a gnome lady
15:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:7, killed by a burning book
15:22 <Guest73> so there's nothing can be done on unpatched vanilla?
15:22 <anselmus> oh this is a pretty glaring bug
15:22 <Noisytoot> <Loggers_VIII> the only thing you can really do is turn up your brightness
15:22 <anselmus> the top rows of a gehennom level aren't aligned
15:22 <Noisytoot> you can reconfigure your terminal to change the colours
15:22 <anselmus> top 2 rows*
15:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 399 points, T:486, killed by falling down a mine shaft
15:23 <Noisytoot> grid bugs are purple, yet the weakest member of x
15:24 <Noisytoot> some variants also allow you to remap colours
15:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 16 points, T:209, killed by a fox
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15:26 <anselmus> yeah i'm guessing nh4 wasn't popular enough to warrant additional development
15:26 <anselmus> i think if he had just taken 3.4 and added to it, it would've been better
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15:27 <Loggers_VIII> noisytoot yeah, re: grid bugs I did say usually
15:27 <raisse> !pom
15:27 <Beholder> raisse: The moon is waning crescent; new moon in 1 day.
15:27 <Loggers_VIII> I suspect grid bugs' color was added before xans existed, but that has no basis
15:28 <anselmus> if people hate farlook that much, just make them play with a special charset for every monster
15:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1099
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15:29 <Noisytoot> you know you can disable colour?
15:30 <Loggers_VIII> ^
15:30 <anselmus> ...do *i* know that hehe
15:30 <anselmus> i play exclusively nocolor
15:30 <Loggers_VIII> I think people who like nocolor are clearly the minority, so the current implementation is fine
15:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed Geryon, on T:151025 (2 days, 16:22:46)
15:31 <anselmus> well i think you're more in the minority for refusing to use farlook
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15:32 <Loggers_VIII> I use farlook, I would just prefer to use it LESS, hence why color glyphs help me
15:32 <Noisytoot> farlooking every single monster would be annoying
15:32 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:76396 (2 days, 6:23:58)
15:32 <Noisytoot> you could just make every monster use the same glyph in the same colour
15:32 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the White Horse, on T:76398 (2 days, 6:24:24)
15:32 <anselmus> and if that was actually necessary, i too would be in your camp :p
15:33 <Loggers_VIII> yeah yeah keep your monochromaticism away from me! :P
15:33 <Loggers_VIII> is that a word?
15:33 <Loggers_VIII> I may have made that up
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15:35 <anselmus> lol brb
15:37 <nabru> "monochromatism" is 
15:37 <nabru> https://www.nature.com/articles/154466b0
15:38 <nabru> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monochromacy
15:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6954 points, T:9500, killed by a chameleon imitating a jabberwock, while frozen
15:38 <nabru> !lastgame petrakat
15:38 <Beholder> nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/petrakat/nethack/dumplog/1697122105.nh.html
15:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2316 points, T:1466, killed by a killer bee
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15:40 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Black Horse, on T:76452 (2 days, 6:32:50)
15:41 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:76453 (2 days, 6:33:00)
15:41 <Loggers_VIII> I think my word was better
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15:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law) found Demonbane on the floor, on T:896
15:41 <petra_the_kat> no fucking way
15:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] rericksn (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:9640 (3:03:36)
15:42 <Loggers_VIII> way
15:42 <Demo> it is so hard to convey information with a short amount of text without color
15:42 <Demo> like 25 characters
15:42 <Loggers_VIII> seriously, like what is this the stone age?
15:42 <Demo> i was building UI components that run exclusively in a browser tab title
15:43 <Demo> when I say run, I mean render to
15:43 <Demo> which means full unicode support, but very short character limit
15:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] arnibald (Kni Cen Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 black dragon scales", on T:32261 (20:36:54)
15:47 <Noisytoot> You could use base65536
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15:47 <Noisytoot> https://github.com/qntm/base65536
15:48 <raisse> tomorrow is friday the 13th *and* full moon, I'll cry off for a day
15:48 <raisse> er. new moon of course
15:48 <Demo> i dont think anyone can parse all the ascii characters represented from base65536 characters in their brain
15:49 <petra_the_kat> oh my god is that by the same guy who wrote Ra?
15:49 <petra_the_kat> yeah it is
15:51 <Demo> honestly i really like the premise of what i was working on, it was for ld54 theme limited space and there is technically now an extended category with a 3 week deadline that hasnt hit yet. i was just gonna abandon what i started, cause i realized i didnt want to write a game and just wanted to write UI components with a space limitation. it would really suck to not finish cause its a neat idea
15:52 <paxed> petra_the_kat: ra, lena, scp stuff, antimemetics division, ...
15:53 <petra_the_kat> yeah i love their stuff
15:53 <petra_the_kat> oh i have never heard of lena!
15:54 <petra_the_kat> ... wow, this is very interesting
15:55 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 7704618 points, T:76526, ascended
15:55 <Beholder> https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/I/Imanity/evilhack/dumplog/1696738052.evil.html
15:55 <petra_the_kat> wooh!!
15:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Jack (Arc Clk Mal Neu), 4942 points, T:14842, killed by a tinker gnome zombie
15:57 <petra_the_kat> wow
15:57 <petra_the_kat> that's quite the story
15:58 <petra_the_kat> If there's a gray stone in a corner, can you kick it to see if it's a loadstone somehow?
15:59 <Loggers_VIII> not unless you dig out a space
15:59 <petra_the_kat> shame
15:59 <petra_the_kat> my pet has died so quickly these past few runs
16:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 454 points, T:2053, killed by a gnome lord
16:01 <petra_the_kat> Is excalibur better than demonbane?
16:02 <petra_the_kat> i found demonbane on the floor haha
16:04 <Noisytoot> much
16:04 <Loggers_VIII> excalibur is wayyy better than demonbane
16:04 <Loggers_VIII> (probably even for fighting demons, hah)
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16:05 <Noisytoot> excalibur is +1d10 vs everything, searching depending on enchantment, drain resistance, and angers lawful demon lords if you wield it when they are generated (by gating or entering their level)
16:05 <Noisytoot> demonbane is just 2x damage vs demons
16:05 <Loggers_VIII> in 3.7 you can also invoke it to "banish demons to gehennom" whatever that means
16:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] Bau (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:12278
16:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3996
16:05 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] marioiscool (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3994
16:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:880 (0:07:06)
16:06 <petra_the_kat> Awesome i just made like $4000 cause i can sell it hahah
16:06 <petra_the_kat> Thank
16:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible knnn's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:904 (0:07:20)
16:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Cav Dwa Fem Neu), 676 points, T:2684, killed by a large mimic
16:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed Mephistopheles, on T:151940 (2 days, 16:54:44)
16:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4430
16:08 <nabru> !lasrgame knnn
16:08 <nabru> !lastgame knnn
16:08 <Beholder> nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/knnn/evilhack/dumplog/1697074799.evil.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/k/knnn/nh343/dumplog/1655833264.nh343.txt
16:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3434
16:09 <petra_the_kat> it's orcishtown again
16:09 <Loggers_VIII> awesome
16:09 <paxed> Loggers_VIII: the demons will be migrated to a random level in gehennom, so you will encounter them again
16:10 <Loggers_VIII> thanks paxed
16:10 <Loggers_VIII> does that work in gehennom?
16:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 888 points, T:1479, killed by the Goblin King
16:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:59764 (11:50:20)
16:11 <paxed> it teleports the demons within the level
16:11 <Loggers_VIII> cool
16:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2310 points, T:4909, killed by a fire ant
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16:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6248
16:15 <petra_the_kat> if i make it to gehennom i will be so happy i won't even care that i can't kill the demons
16:15 <Loggers_VIII> don't worry, the demon lords are mostly pretty wimpy
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16:17 <Loggers_VIII> demogorgon I think is the only difficult demon boss (other ones can catch you unaware, like juiblex or asmodeus, but a prepared player will have little to no trouble with them)
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16:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] marioiscool (Mon Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping an octagonal amulet on an altar, on T:4690
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16:22 <Noisytoot> asmodeus is very dangerous if you lack cold resistance, and yeenoghu is very dangerous if you lack free action and magic resistance
16:25 <Loggers_VIII> yes, but those are all things easily obtainable that you SHOULD have by then, so you'll only make that mistake once
16:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:60356 (12:04:11)
16:25 <Loggers_VIII> they fail to continue to be difficult to deal with after one encounter
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16:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:6047
16:26 <petra_the_kat> wooh!
16:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:153003 (2 days, 17:11:51)
16:27 <petra_the_kat> (For the record the furthest i've ever gotten was the Wizard quest, *once*, so i doubt i'm making it to gehennom any time soon)
16:29 <petra_the_kat> love how it takes 1 turn to sacrifice so i can keep leading orcs on to the altar and saccing them
16:29 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> meh you can do it
16:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law) was bestowed with Mjollnir by Tyr, on T:6316
16:29 <petra_the_kat> WOOH
16:29 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> @?geryon
16:29 <Beholder> Geryon (&) | Lvl: 72 | Diff: 36 | Spd: 3 | Res: fire poison drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 75 | Gen: unique | AC: -3 | Atk: 3d6 claw physical, 3d6 claw physical, 2d4 sting drain str | Align: 15 | flies, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, demon, stalker, covetous, infravis, silverhate
16:29 <petra_the_kat> ok now so is mjollnir better than excalibue?
16:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 487 points, T:1062, killed by a hobbit
16:29 <PhantomLumina> Refer to what I said earlier.
16:29 <PhantomLumina> (Not really, no.)
16:30 <PhantomLumina> <PhantomLumina> Excalibur is generally the best weapon available to a Valk
16:30 <PhantomLumina> <PhantomLumina> but Mjollnir is pretty solid.
16:30 <PhantomLumina> <PhantomLumina> It's a decent-to-good weapon held back from being a great one by its reliance on the shock damage bonuses and its weak base weapon type.
16:30 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> petra_the_kat you’ll get more damage on non shock resistant monsters sometimes, but its base damage is bad and Excalibur has better passive benefits on worldly
16:30 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> *benefits on world
16:30 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> **WIELD
16:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:61095 (12:09:53)
16:32 <petra_the_kat> OK
16:32 <petra_the_kat> guess i'll stash mjollnir then?
16:32 <PhantomLumina> It's a fine enough backup
16:32 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> keep it in case you run into an energy vortex
16:32 <anselmus> excal's drain resistance is pretty invaluable now, ie vs vlad
16:33 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> yeah, with the MC nerfs drain resistance is a lot more impactful
16:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:61543 (12:13:31)
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16:35 <petra_the_kat> Do orcs always spawn with tons of exhausted wands?
16:35 <petra_the_kat> or do they just like zapping them
16:35 <Noisytoot> mjollnir has the advantage of being throwable with GoP and returning if you are a valkyrie
16:35 <Noisytoot> the latter
16:35 <Arseniy> mjollnir is better against most enemies
16:36 <Arseniy> not by much but in the early game it can make a difference
16:36 <Noisytoot> mjollnir destroys rings and wands
16:37 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> petra_the_kat there are several emptied wands of striking and magic missile in orctown, the orcs pick them up and carry them around
16:37 <PhantomLumina> ^
16:37 <petra_the_kat> OK
16:37 <PhantomLumina> And yes, shock damage can high-roll and kill pretty hard.
16:37 <PhantomLumina> Except for when it doesn't.
16:37 <PhantomLumina> Excalibur damage is more "consistent" in a sense.
16:37 <petra_the_kat> ok
16:37 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> If you go to the bottom level there’ll be an orc captain with only one name that has a chance of having a silver saber, which is a good offhand
16:38 <PhantomLumina> Though, shock resistant monsters are typically in short supply, but become more frequent as you progress.
16:38 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> good to keep in mind if you ever want one later
16:38 <petra_the_kat> haha tyr spent so so long forging me his hammer only for some strange woman in a pond to make a better sword
16:38 <Arseniy> once you start having enchant weapon scrolls, difference becomes negligible and Excalibur becomes better by virtue of universality
16:38 <Noisytoot> Excalibur: 1d8/1d12 + 1d10 vs all, Mjollnir: 1d4+1/1d4 vs all (+ 1d24 vs non-shock-resistant)
16:38 <petra_the_kat> I had two on me and i put them on excalibur
16:39 <Noisytoot> Excalibur's searching is good because it can help to find polytraps
16:39 <petra_the_kat> plus i like having wands and rings
16:39 <petra_the_kat> which would be a lot cooler if my pets stopped flipping dying wuauihag
16:40 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> pets are kind of Not Good unless they’re something powerful like a dragon or archon
16:40 <hothraxxa> not my opinion
16:40 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> they are nice for general utility early game in curse testing and stealing but other than that they’re just an annoyance a lot of the time
16:40 <hothraxxa> petra_the_kat: go slow on the first 3-4 levels and let your pet get in some kills on easy monsters
16:40 <Noisytoot> I thought mjollnir provided shock resistance but apparently it doesn't
16:40 <petra_the_kat> OK
16:40 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> I thought that too, weird
16:41 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> I know it does in evil
16:41 <Noisytoot> it does in dnethack too
16:41 <petra_the_kat> Gonna haul some chests down to orcishtown for stashing then spelunk deeper into the mines
16:41 <hothraxxa> why is the bridge showing both nicks now?
16:41 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> Idk
16:41 <hothraxxa> petra_the_kat: why some? one is fine
16:41 <Noisytoot> pets are good for stealing from shops
16:42 <hothraxxa> ^^^
16:42 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> I already said that
16:42 <Noisytoot> but they are extremely annoying to manage in vanilla without a magic whistle or at least a leash
16:42 <hothraxxa> also buc testing
16:42 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> I also said that :P
16:42 <petra_the_kat> Easier to sort into good and bad if i have 2 haha
16:42 <petra_the_kat> but i'm probably only gonna get 1
16:42 <hothraxxa> right, whistle or leash.
16:42 <nabru> my problem with having a powerful pet is that you will have trouble managing it
16:42 <nabru> I've had games where a dragon killed a shopkeeper whose services I wanted to use
16:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] rericksn (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:10813 (3:45:09)
16:43 <nabru> *a pet dragon
16:43 <Noisytoot> dNetHack has a beast mastery skill that makes them follow down/up stairs from further away (unless you tell them not to). That helps a lot.
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16:43 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> As long as you have a whistle or leash pets are easy to corral
16:43 <nabru> that, or it decided to paint the town red and go killing everybody, including the priest I was going to buy protection from
16:43 <Noisytoot> It also solves that by adding commands to ask them to not attack peacefuls (#getem/#downboy)
16:43 <hothraxxa> yeah even warhorses can attack priestesses and shopkeepers
16:43 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> dragons can’t open doors, so just put it in a room or something
16:43 <PhantomLumina> I almost always lock my pet in a room if I'm worried about that.
16:43 <PhantomLumina> That said, I am also a #downboy liker, so.
16:44 <Noisytoot> covetous pets (only master/arch-liches) are annoying because you can't do that
16:44 <hothraxxa> gnollhack has a superb pet management system
16:44 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> Noisytoot yeah, and those aren’t even great pets anyway so it’s annoying to get one from like a polytrap or something
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16:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:63229 (12:25:33)
16:48 <PhantomLumina> They're good in Evil since they have access to their spellcasting.
16:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:154263 (2 days, 17:33:23)
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16:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:154268 (2 days, 17:33:32)
16:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:43895
16:49 <anselmus> for me, the question of pets comes down to do i want to be burdened without a pet or not burdened with one
16:50 <petra_the_kat> when i play wiz and start with a poly wand i always zap it at my pet haha
16:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the first wraithworm, on T:51952
16:50 <petra_the_kat> i've gotten an arch-lich and a master mindflayer
16:50 <nabru> I once got a master lich
16:50 <nabru> then I accidentally angered it
16:50 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> heh, I’ve done the same
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16:51 <nabru> I was playing a barbarian, IIRC, got a /oPoly, zapped at my pet
16:51 <nabru> many turns later, I'm wielding Cleaver
16:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:19761 (12:28:16)
16:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) genocided shocking spheres, on T:154440 (2 days, 17:37:04)
16:52 <petra_the_kat> Englightenment says i am fire resistand and my items are resistant from fire
16:52 <Noisytoot> I once accidentally angered a pet Throne Archon in notdnethack (because I didn't have a magic whistle and displacing into traps reduces tameness)
16:52 <petra_the_kat> is that from the ring of fire resist?
16:52 <petra_the_kat> wiki says that it doesn't protect my items
16:53 <Noisytoot> it does in 3.7, but not in earlier versions
16:53 <petra_the_kat> OK
16:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Mon Dro Fem Cha), 8577 points, T:4010, killed by a human watchman
16:54 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> Noisytoot is a Throne Archon dnethack’s version of a vanilla Archon?
16:54 <Noisytoot> yes
16:54 <Noisytoot> @n?throne archon
16:54 <Beholder> Throne Archon (7) | Lvl: 27 | Diff: 34 | Spd: 17 | Res: fire cold sleep shock poison magic drain | Confer: nothing | MR: 77 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: Nat 10/Dodge 0/Prot 7 | Atk: 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical, 3d7 passive-gaze blind, 1d8 claw physical, 0d7 cast spell | Align: 17 | nopoly, flies, stalker, regen, nopoly, infravis, seeinvis
16:54 <Noisytoot> basically the same but with 7s everywhere
16:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] masterofpi (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:25052
16:54 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> gotcha
16:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:63824 (12:34:35)
16:57 <Noisytoot> I survived because of the yuki-onna snow cloud form movement speed boost, and the fact that they prefer (50%) to cast summon angel and lightning bolt over other spells like touch of death
16:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1138 points, T:1677, killed by a dagger
17:00 <petra_the_kat> > master lich called Uhaiabane of Aiothuakh
17:00 <petra_the_kat> oh dear
17:00 <petra_the_kat> um
17:00 <petra_the_kat> any tips?
17:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] nabru (Val Cen Fem Neu), 11221 points, T:3344, killed by a sasquatch
17:01 <nabru> ouch, run away
17:02 <petra_the_kat> i'm TRYING
17:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a leocrotta, on T:8825
17:02 <petra_the_kat> i found a polytrap!
17:03 <petra_the_kat> i bet that's where mr lich came from
17:04 <petra_the_kat> um, so is lv9 of the mines and below just off-limits now
17:04 <petra_the_kat> bastard cursed a bunch of my stuff too
17:05 <petra_the_kat> and broke a lot of potions
17:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Swashbuckler (level 18), on T:44560
17:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:65294 (12:44:34)
17:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was bestowed with Magicbane by Anhur, on T:9038
17:06 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> Yeah just don’t go back until you can kill a master lich basically
17:06 <petra_the_kat> Awesome
17:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] willisllama (Mad Swn Fem Cha), 3426 points, T:1479, killed by an Uruk-hai
17:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a dwarf), on T:773
17:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed mgm7734's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:10075
17:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] GrmlyFndsh (Mon Hum Fem Law) Izchak, the lighting store proprietor, has been killed, on T:38003
17:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 502 points, T:1729, killed by an orc zombie, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze
17:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] GrmlyFndsh (Mon Hum Fem Law) Drepung, the health food store proprietrix, has been killed, on T:38046
17:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] GrmlyFndsh (Mon Hum Fem Law) Maganasipi, the general store proprietrix, has been killed, on T:38131
17:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] GrmlyFndsh (Mon Hum Fem Law) Stewe, the hardware store proprietor, has been killed, on T:38343
17:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:36049 (10:36:03)
17:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", got "a greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:9447
17:17 <petra_the_kat> proprietrix is a good word
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17:18 <anselmus> except i've never seen it uttered by a human
17:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] GrmlyFndsh (Mon Hum Fem Law) Akalapi, the general store proprietor, has been killed, on T:38902
17:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Ran Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:155041 (2 days, 18:07:16)
17:24 <petra_the_kat> Can enchant weapon scrolls make artifact weapons disintegrate?
17:25 <PhantomLumina> They can.
17:25 <PhantomLumina> So be careful.
17:26 <petra_the_kat> Aha, there's a message for if your artifact was enchanted above 5
17:26 <petra_the_kat> so as long as i read scrolls until the message, it's OK?
17:26 <PhantomLumina> Same weapon enchantment limit is +5 across the board, so not really that big a deal.
17:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 721 points, T:1445, killed by a dwarf
17:26 <PhantomLumina> As in, enchanting when it's +5 is safe. Enchanting when it's above that might poof it.
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17:31 <petra_the_kat> OK
17:31 <petra_the_kat> so amnesia isn't absolutely devastating in 3.7?
17:31 <petra_the_kat> asking cause i cannot for the life of me find more ID scrolls and i have a whole bunch of scrolls I want to get rid of
17:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:67295 (13:12:26)
17:34 <Noisytoot> why do you want to get rid of them?
17:34 <PhantomLumina> It's still not something you want to read at random.
17:34 <PhantomLumina> But it doesn't artificially length the game by like, a factor of 10.
17:34 <PhantomLumina> s/length/lengthen
17:34 <Noisytoot> it makes you forget spells and skill training
17:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Bar Vam Mal Neu), 278766 points, T:43988, killed by a grizzly bear, while dressing up
17:35 <PhantomLumina> Sheesh.
17:36 <hothraxxa> that really sucks
17:36 <PhantomLumina> Also yeah, the scroll becomes useful as a result, but that also means mind flayers have another way to kill you besides just plain INT drain.
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17:42 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [ndnh] Noisytoot (Sam Inc Mal Law), 317 points, T:446, killed by a bo-shuriken trap
17:42 <Noisytoot> I hate poison instadeath
17:42 <Noisytoot> !lastgame
17:42 <Beholder> Noisytoot: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/Noisytoot/notdnethack/dumplog/1697146696.ndnh.txt :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/hackem/dumplog/1696891167.hackem.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/H/HungryMotu/hackem/dumplog/1697067574.hackem.html
17:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 677 points, T:1854, killed by a wood golem
17:43 <Loggers_VIII> rip
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17:45 <hackemslashem> !lastgame hothraxxa
17:45 <Beholder> hackemslashem: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/hackem/dumplog/1696891167.hackem.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/hackem/dumplog/1688159190.hackem.html
17:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:45774
17:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Lolth, on T:69215 (13:24:59)
17:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:41329 (3:35:32)
17:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12455
17:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) used a forge to create Shadowblade, on T:69570 (13:35:16)
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17:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) used a forge to create Dichotomy, on T:69686 (13:37:55)
17:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) used a forge to create Ashmar, on T:69714 (13:38:39)
18:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:42111 (3:49:47)
18:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:42112 (3:49:50)
18:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:42113 (3:49:53)
18:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:42250 (3:52:03)
18:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:42250 (3:52:06)
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18:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:13159
18:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Trt Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:37943 (11:24:16)
18:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:13405
18:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Jack (Arc Clk Mal Neu), 951 points, T:2124, killed by a gnome
18:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed petrakat's ghost, the former Fighter, on T:13738
18:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Neu) permanently converted to chaotic, on T:42570 (3:55:59)
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18:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) genocided mind flayers, on T:42798 (4:03:33)
18:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) genocided master mind flayers, on T:42798 (4:03:35)
18:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:42799 (4:03:39)
18:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) genocided orange dragons, on T:42799 (4:03:44)
18:14 <Noisytoot> I think dNetHack actually removes poison instadeath and replaces it with 3d6 damage to the player (or a flat 80 vs monsters). I had 16 HP, and it must have rolled 17 or 18.
18:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) genocided green slimes, on T:42804 (4:04:38)
18:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3015 points, T:4344, killed by a soldier ant
18:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Ran Hum Mal Cha), 1344 points, T:3197, killed by a warg, while frozen by a monster's gaze
18:20 <PhantomLumina> Yeah I'm p. sure you just died of normal poison damage lmao.
18:26 <Noisytoot> normal major poison damage that replaces poison instadeath (minor would be just 1d6)
18:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (Bin Orc Fem Non) wished for "the blessed +3 fixed Atma weapon", on T:54842
18:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:44057 (4:17:26)
18:30 <nabru> !ping
18:30 <Beholder> nabru: Pong! 
18:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:44071 (4:19:59)
18:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Val Dwa Fem Law) polymorphed her first item, on T:14249
18:31 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [hackm] ElPsyCongrooGoku (Nec Gia Mal Cha), 3697 points, T:5406, killed by an Uruk-hai
18:34 <petra_the_kat> h my god i can start polypiling for the first time
18:34 <petra_the_kat> aaaaa
18:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Jack (Arc Clk Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3960
18:39 <Loggers_VIII> polypiling is fun
18:39 <Loggers_VIII> imo
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18:41 <Noisytoot> just make sure you don't accidentally polypile your stash
18:42 <Loggers_VIII> ugh, I've done that
18:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) had a silver shield of light entrusted to her by Poseidon, on T:45094 (4:33:41)
18:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 595 points, T:1433, killed by a bugbear
18:45 <petra_the_kat> I have 3 unihorns even
18:49 <petra_the_kat> if i polypile all my candles (i have like 12) is it going to be likely i can't find them for the candelabra later?
18:51 <Noisytoot> there are guaranteed candles in vlad's tower, so no
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18:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:46971 (4:43:50)
18:56 <Demo> maybe you'll get a stethoscope
18:58 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [hackm] ElPsyCongrooGoku (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 691 points, T:1501, killed by a rabid rabbit
18:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5146 points, T:4478, killed by a crocodile
18:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased mithril +3 helm of brilliance", on T:71761 (14:38:33)
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19:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 594 points, T:1225, killed by a mountain dwarf
19:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2156
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19:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:71818 (14:48:25)
19:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] stagnate (Arc Dwa Mal Law) murdered his faithful umber hulk, on T:39113
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19:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide t-shirt", on T:71826 (14:49:24)
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19:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1932 (0:55:07)
19:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) wished for "blessed idol of moloch", on T:71852 (14:51:39)
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19:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dingotron (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2039 (0:57:16)
19:15 <Loggers_VIII> @e?jackal
19:15 <Beholder> jackal (d) | Lvl: 0 | Diff: 1 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 7 | Atk: 1d2 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, infravis
19:15 <petra_the_kat> well, i ran out of poly charges
19:15 <petra_the_kat> i'm gonna wrest the last one
19:15 <petra_the_kat> i don't have a charging scroll
19:15 <petra_the_kat> and poly wands aren't *that* rare
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19:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide cloak of displacement", on T:71854 (14:55:21)
19:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] stagnate (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:39403
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19:18 <petra_the_kat> zv nothing happens simulator 2k23
19:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 642 points, T:2623, killed by a wand
19:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1231
19:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was bestowed with Magicbane by Anhur, on T:1371
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19:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was bestowed with Dragonbane by Anhur, on T:1847
19:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was bestowed with Werebane by Anhur, on T:2066
19:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:72332 (15:07:12)
19:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] stagnate (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Spelunker (level 18), on T:39785
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19:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3449
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19:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:72818 (15:17:34)
19:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:4500
19:40 <nabru> @v?hill giant
19:40 <Beholder> hill giant (H) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 10 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Atk: 2d8 weapon physical | Align: -2 | genocidable, carnivore, infravis
19:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 10640 points, T:5108, killed by a fire ant
19:42 <nabru> go team a!
19:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) genocided disenchanters, on T:73034 (15:23:20)
19:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) genocided green slimes, on T:73036 (15:24:24)
19:50 <petra_the_kat> wow, i'm doing so great in this run!
19:50 <petra_the_kat> valkyrie IS the easiest role haha
19:54 <nabru> yep, valks are among the easiest roles
19:54 <nabru> !whereis petrakat
19:54 <Beholder> nabru: petrakat is not playing.
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19:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] fist (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2285
20:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] GrmlyFndsh (Mon Hum Fem Law) Maganasipi, the general store proprietrix, has been killed, on T:39612
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20:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 701 points, T:1414, killed by a dwarf
20:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2363 points, T:2361, killed by a giant anaconda
20:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 8899 points, T:9048, killed by an exploding projectile
20:24 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dwa Mal Law), 736 points, T:1467, killed by the Goblin King
20:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] GrmlyFndsh (Mon Hum Fem Law) the Oracle has been killed, on T:41134
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20:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 255 points, T:541, killed by a gnome lady
20:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] GrmlyFndsh (Mon Hum Fem Law), 179426 points, T:42430, killed by Master Kaen
20:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] GrmlyFndsh (Mon Hum Fem Law) found the Eyes of the Overworld carried by a monster, on T:42430
20:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:1378 (0:07:33)
20:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1167 points, T:1796, killed by a bolt of fire
20:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] widmerpool (Cav Hum Fem Law), 36777 points, T:15061, killed by a forest centaur
20:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] GrmlyFndsh (Val Hum Fem Law), 1261 points, T:3464, killed by a dingo
20:51 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 725 points, T:1451, killed by a hill orc
20:53 <rld> <(𝐿𝒰-𝟣𝒢𝟣) [@luigi___]> ok #nethack-hardfoughters, luigi here wanting to enhance your bot experience further. I talked about this a while ago but can't find the original messages with suggestions...  We can format messages from Beholder to look fancy with different colors and striking text I don't quite get how the color code formatting works, I think it's ANSI of some kind, but this is the config we use in prod for #tomenet: json     "gameLogC
20:53 <rld> <(𝐿𝒰-𝟣𝒢𝟣)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1162191429725065256/Screenshot_2023-10-12_at_7.50.14_PM.png?ex=653b0a1d&is=6528951d&hm=83391d63539299a43a0cca2642cd376f2168ae72eb301552b386763b5eff67fe&
20:54 <Demo> can youy make it so messages dont get cut off?
20:56 <rld> <(𝐿𝒰-𝟣𝒢𝟣) [@luigi___]> oh no is that happening
20:56 <rld> <(𝐿𝒰-𝟣𝒢𝟣) [@luigi___]> do you have a screenshot?
20:56 <rld> <(𝐿𝒰-𝟣𝒢𝟣) [@luigi___]> or message links? which side is it happening on?
20:56 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2516 (0:32:38)
20:56 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dwa Mal Law), 2255 points, T:2517, quit
20:57 <Demo> the message you sent with the long text and all the words in it is cut off on the irc end
20:57 <rld> <(𝐿𝒰-𝟣𝒢𝟣) [@luigi___]> Discord has a limit of 2000 or 4000 characters, is there a limit to IRC messages?
20:57 <rld> <(𝐿𝒰-𝟣𝒢𝟣) [@luigi___]> I presume it's smaller, so I'll have to come up with a split solution, but I think I see the fix
20:59 <Demo> https://www.hardfought.org/irclog/%23hardfought-2023-10-12.log
21:00 <rld> <(𝐿𝒰-𝟣𝒢𝟣) [@luigi___]> thanks, it seems to be ~500 characters, I'll split to that. expect an update tonight
21:00 <rld> <(𝐿𝒰-𝟣𝒢𝟣) [@luigi___]> and if anyone has those regex that are separated into categories for beholder's output I'll add them in too
21:07 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] youngster (Kni Hum Fem Law) found Cleaver on the floor, on T:10778
21:08 <Noisytoot> @luigi___ IRC messages are limited to 512 bytes, but this includs the ":nick!user@host PRIVMSG #channel :" prefix and CRLF
21:09 <Noisytoot> So 510 - len(":rld!~rld@user/rld PRIVMSG ##nethack-variants :") = 463 bytes should be safe (assuming ##nethack-variants is the longest named bridge channel)
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21:09 <Noisytoot> Maybe slightly smaller if it ever falls back to a longer nick
21:11 <Noisytoot> mIRC colour codes are described on https://modern.ircdocs.horse/formatting.html#color
21:11 <Noisytoot> s/includs/includes/
21:11 <rld> <(𝐿𝒰-𝟣𝒢𝟣) [@luigi___]> oh it's bytes! not characters necessarily, no wonder my initial test was having issues just now. I'll have to think through this in typescript land...
21:12 <rld> <(𝐿𝒰-𝟣𝒢𝟣) [@luigi___]> I guess I can presume no one's using much unicode though
21:14 <Noisytoot> I've seen some emoji being used, and of course your name contains unicode
21:17 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] youngster (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:11238
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21:26 <rld> <(𝐿𝒰-𝟣𝒢𝟣) [@luigi___]> OK I limited it to 400 characters and used my original message with good results, will deploy the fix after MTF reviews it
21:26 <rld> <(𝐿𝒰-𝟣𝒢𝟣) [@luigi___]> I set the interval to 2.5s to avoid flood, does that seem right?
21:28 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] youngster (Kni Hum Fem Law) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:11725
21:31 <Noisytoot> Libera staff don't publish the exact limits, but RFC 1459 recommends 1 message every 2 seconds <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1459#section-8.10>. Being voiced relaxes flood restrictions, and the bot is voiced in here but not in ##nethack-variants
21:34 <Noisytoot> aosdict owns ##nethack-variants, only they could voice it
21:34 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> @e?genetic engineer
21:34 <Beholder> genetic engineer (Q) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 10 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Atk: 1d4 claw poly | Align: 0 | genocidable, omnivore, tele, poisonous, infravis
21:35 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> does pinobot show if monster is m2_silent?
21:35 <Noisytoot> it's MS_SILENT (sound flag)
21:35 <Noisytoot> and no, it doesn't seem to
21:36 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> oh right, got 2 and s mixed up
21:36 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> thanks
21:36 <Noisytoot> genetic engineers are MS_HUMANOID, not MS_SILENT
21:36 <rld> <Loggers_VIII [@Loggers_VIII]> I think there’s a lot of potential for genetic engineer as a strategic poly form
21:37 <Noisytoot> (I think MS_BURBLE is also excluded from casting spells. In Evilhack, that's just wumpus, jabberwock, and vorpal jabberwock.)
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21:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] arnibald (Kni Cen Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:34661 (23:16:50)
21:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 580 points, T:572, killed by a dwarf
21:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:77332 (17:23:53)
21:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:77339 (17:24:04)
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21:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] widmerpool (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 179 points, T:937, killed by a snake
21:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Geryon, on T:77865 (17:34:48)
22:09 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:3264 (0:38:56)
22:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Jack (Arc Clk Mal Neu) wished for "the blessed fixed +2 tie-dye shirt of shambhala", on T:9905
22:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Ziberian (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 864 points, T:1928, killed by a dwarf
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22:26 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dwa Mal Law) became literate by engraving "E", on T:3844 (0:55:47)
22:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:79480 (18:04:28)
22:30 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] youngster (Kni Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Lugh, on T:12101
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22:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 20 points, T:666, killed by a jackal
22:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3034
22:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (Bin Orc Fem Non) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:57288
22:46 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> am stuck in the shop after i accidentally zapped a wand of make invis at myself (i was surrounded by mimics and thought the wand was tele)
22:47 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> now ive waited for hundreds of turns and the invis effect still hasnt worn off, i may have permanent invisibility, any way i could continue this run?
22:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2208 points, T:3416, killed by an owlbear
22:48 <cathartes> https://github.com/k21971/NetHack37/commits/master doesn't have the recent wand of make invisible change, so it seems you're perma-invisible now.
22:49 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> ugh i may just be perma locked
22:49 <cathartes> what stuff do you have?
22:49 <PhantomLumina> This is why you don't test wands on yourself 
22:50 <PhantomLumina> Generally you need a means of teleport or digging
22:50 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> unfortunately the pickaxe is outside the shop since i have no bag to put it in -_-
22:51 <cathartes> could your blessed lamp be magic?
22:51 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> i already used it for gdsm
22:52 <cathartes> what is the pink potion's price?  is there  a small chance it is cursed gain level?
22:53 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> perhaps
22:53 <anselmus> or paralysis?
22:53 <cathartes> 50zm sell price is not gain level
22:54 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> yesh none of them are 300zm
22:54 <cathartes> time to murder the shopkeeper, maybe
22:55 <cathartes> probably bounce cold and magic missile rays from far away first
22:56 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> ok
22:56 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> would i lose the title of "hand of elbereth"?
22:57 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> i do have a tin of floating eye so tele's not an issue
22:57 <cathartes> oh, you're crowned?  you won't lose the title
22:57 <cathartes> is your wand of cold used?
22:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed the Grue, on T:58351
22:58 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> it has some charges left
22:58 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> not sure if its enough to kill a shopkeep
22:58 <anselmus> that should do it
22:59 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> no choice but to lose the crown eh
23:01 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] youngster (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Hebiwerie, the general store proprietor, on T:12948
23:01 <cathartes> good job
23:01 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> please let me keep my intrinsics 🙏
23:01 <cathartes> you murderer.
23:01 <cathartes> you don't lose intrinsics except telepathy
23:01 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> ah then its all good
23:01 <cathartes> you lose some luck though
23:02 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> no problemo
23:02 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> if the shopkeep forced my hand, is it really murder?
23:02 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> id argue otherwise
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23:03 <anselmus> manslaughter perhaps
23:04 <anselmus> which was still a capital offense in the bible
23:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] GrmlyFndsh (Rog Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3872
23:05 <rld> <TheYOUNGster [@y0un65t3r]> better offer some more sacrifices to my god
23:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:80730 (18:33:44)
23:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) averted death (withered away), on T:80738 (18:35:00)
23:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] GrmlyFndsh (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2050 points, T:4087, killed by a giant bat
23:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 92 points, T:297, killed by a newt
23:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Pux (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 5852 points, T:6733, killed by a rothe
23:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Splunge (Rog Dro Mal Cha) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:80862 (18:37:55)
23:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 251 points, T:823, killed by an acid blob
23:15 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dwa Mal Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a tripe ration, on T:6750 (1:45:30)
23:16 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dwa Mal Law), 11549 points, T:6750, quit
23:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1805 (0:11:54)
23:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] Bau (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 243634 points, T:20202, killed by a lightning paraelemental
23:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Jack (Arc Clk Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:18788
23:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5272 points, T:2800, killed by a dwarven watch captain
23:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] mgm7734 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1711 points, T:2235, killed by a dwarf queen
23:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1854 (0:07:13)
23:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:1947 (0:07:45)
23:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Hea Trt Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:49884 (5:04:47)
23:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3028 (0:16:41)
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23:52 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] Imanity (Mon Dwa Mal Law), 2922 points, T:3595, killed by a yeti
23:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (Bin Orc Fem Non) killed Graz'zt, on T:60368
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23:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 113 points, T:199, killed by an elven dagger
23:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] Jack (Arc Clk Mal Neu), 38864 points, T:21027, quit
23:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3464 (0:23:21)
23:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Trt Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a gray dragon, on T:42180 (12:39:16)