00:05 [hdf-us] [slth] nadj (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 1462 points, T:927, quit 00:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Loggers (Pri Hlf Mal Cha), 1137 points, T:1430, killed by a gnome lord zombie 00:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Loggers (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1350 points, T:585, quit 00:28 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:46183 00:28 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with spellbook of finger of death, on T:46183 00:30 groan, one time I forgot to get my FoD spellbook out before praying... 00:31 <@Loggers_VIII> lol 00:34 -!- lorimer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:35 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 00:35 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1384 (0:06:45) 00:39 <@Loggers_VIII> @slth?blue blob 00:39 <@Loggers_VIII> nada 00:39 <@Loggers_VIII> must be something else 00:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:48 @lt?blue blob 00:48 blue blob (b) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 3 | Res: shock petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: dungeons | AC: 8 | Atk: 1d6 touch shock | Align: 0 | genocidable, amorphous, breathless, mindless, passes-bars, vegan 00:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 3139 points, T:2951, killed by a gnoll 00:48 @lt?red blob 00:48 red blob (b) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 2 | Spd: 3 | Res: fire petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: dungeons | AC: 8 | Atk: 1d6 touch fire | Align: 0 | genocidable, amorphous, breathless, mindless, passes-bars, vegan 00:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jack (Mad Inc Mal Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:11173 00:57 -!- petra_the_kat has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 22828 points, T:8942, killed by a soldier ant 01:01 <@Loggers_VIII> agh, team a 01:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) Annootok, the general store proprietor, has been killed, on T:24288 01:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) Ayancik, the used armor dealership proprietor, has been killed, on T:24324 01:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) Lonzac, the antique weapons outlet proprietor, has been killed, on T:24358 01:24 [hdf-eu] [nh343] gbataille (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 776 points, T:1881, killed by a sewer rat 01:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:24795 01:29 guys need help. got engulfed by a gelatinous cube. strangling. You're gasping for air. You can move again... 01:29 do i have 3 turns? 1 turn to take out amulet of magic breathing, 2 turns to swap it 01:46 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 13329 points, T:7465, killed by a soldier ant, while helpless 01:46 -!- hackemslashem has joined #hardfought 01:46 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hackemslashem] by ChanServ 01:48 [hdf-us] [un] DarkFeathr (Con Orc Mal Cha), 134 points, T:415, killed by an iron ball collision 01:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] DarkFeathr (Sam Hum Fem Law), 60 points, T:52, killed by a fox 01:56 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Dwa Mal Law) performed his first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:38299 (12:23:12) 02:16 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] DarkFeathr (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 477 points, T:1194, killed by a hobgoblin 02:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 892 points, T:1862, killed by a jackal 02:40 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:40 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:47 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Fire Brand by Thoth, on T:47800 02:48 Fire Brand only took over 1600 continuous turns of saccing... 02:53 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 03:08 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 03:09 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 03:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3196 03:11 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3433 03:13 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:15 !tell K2 My game has disappeared! Internet dropped for a moment. Waited a few minutes then tried to re-start game (NH370), instead I'm offered a new game 03:15 No worries, Grassy, I've got this! 03:15 K2 can you help recover my game pleazzzzze? 03:16 AU server, NH370 03:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 mjollnir", got "a blessed war hammer named Mjollnir", on T:1037 03:28 I think you can wait another minute or two then try again 03:28 If I recall it takes 10 minutes for a game process to become fully "stale" or w/e 03:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4883 03:36 Umbire, yeah it sometimes does 03:36 i think 03:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3629 03:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5639 03:46 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 14497 points, T:6218, killed by a white unicorn 03:47 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) averted death (killed by an ogre queen), on T:10339 (5:56:12) 03:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of levitation", got "a jade ring", on T:14999 04:00 -!- anselmus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 14050 points, T:7812, killed by a horse 04:13 [hdf-au] [hackm] Orcranger (Tou Hob Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:9085 (4:46:00) 04:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7741 04:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 18768 points, T:8997, killed by a fire elemental 04:30 K2 I went a did something else for a bit, came back and game is restored yay \o/ 04:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] vor (Brd Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 engagement ring", on T:25134 04:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4491 (0:35:39) 04:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 6300 points, T:4502, poisoned by a rotted Mordor orc corpse, while praying 04:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:1014 (0:02:56) 04:45 -!- Arseniy has joined #hardfought 04:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1724 (0:05:57) 04:50 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] vor (Brd Hum Fem Cha) killed Aglaope, on T:25627 04:53 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law), 145668 points, T:44603, killed by a death ray 05:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed the invisible bouquet's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:3952 (0:25:16) 05:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:39277 05:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:39278 05:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5th time), on T:39352 05:15 [hdf-eu] [fh] hackem (hackemslashem) (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 14723 points, T:634, quit 05:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:4906 (0:32:40) 05:17 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 05:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Herbalist (level 18), on T:39512 05:22 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1207 points, T:2222, killed by a gnome lady 05:38 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 05:41 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 544 points, T:772, killed by Mr. Corsh, the shopkeeper 05:42 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2186 05:48 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 681 points, T:904, killed by a hobbit 05:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3365 05:58 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:12472 (7:03:00) 06:06 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 30948 points, T:10963, killed by an air elemental 06:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Mon Hum Fem Cha) was bestowed with Orcrist by Huan Ti, on T:8467 06:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Mon Hum Fem Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a lizard corpse, on T:8638 06:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:1151 (0:07:12) 06:27 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 06:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1965 (0:10:52) 06:30 -!- raisse has quit [Client Quit] 06:31 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) averted death (petrified by a chickatrice corpse), on T:40799 06:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4049 (0:20:48) 06:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:653 06:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 38485 points, T:10181, choked on a lizard corpse 06:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Mal Una), 9006 points, T:6053, killed by a chameleon imitating a giant centipede 06:52 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 (0:00:02) 06:52 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 40 points, T:1, caught herself in her own ball of lightning 06:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 250 points, T:96, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:54 [hdf-us] [slshm] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 50 points, T:76, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:55 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by kicking a wall 06:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] breadmaster (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 1720 points, T:2403, killed by a dingo 06:56 [hdf-us] [fh] dsfl (post163) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 13461 points, T:269, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Nob Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by kicking a wall 06:56 [hdf-us] [slth] post163 (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by an acid ray 06:57 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 06:59 [hdf-au] [hackm] Orcranger (Tou Hob Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:11540 (5:45:51) 07:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 372 points, T:1919, killed by a coyote 07:03 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Hob Mal Neu), 148 points, T:77, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:04 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:48024 07:04 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Nbn Cha), 65 points, T:118, slipped while mounting a saddled baby black dragon 07:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 7 points, T:39, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3099 07:17 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 07:22 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:22 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 68906 points, T:14356, killed by a mumak 07:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4809 07:35 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Dro Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a falling object 07:35 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:41 [hdf-au] [hackm] Orcranger (Tou Hob Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:12626 (6:27:31) 07:41 [hdf-au] [hackm] Orcranger (Tou Hob Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:12629 (6:27:37) 07:42 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 07:46 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 07:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Kni Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:15239 07:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:15245 07:54 [hdf-eu] [un] Uncleleo (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 11519 points, T:32275, killed by a blast of frost 07:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6114 07:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Dispater, on T:113112 (1 day, 14:25:11) 08:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Kni Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Knight (level 14), on T:15722 08:11 morning 08:11 K2: Message from Grassy at 2023-07-20 03:15 EDT: My game has disappeared! Internet dropped for a moment. Waited a few minutes then tried to re-start game (NH370), instead I'm offered a new game 08:12 good morning k2 08:14 hi 08:14 Hello K2, Welcome to #hardfought 08:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 18090 points, T:7603, petrified by touching a chickatrice corpse bare-handed 08:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:114423 (1 day, 14:48:02) 08:25 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 08:32 [hdf-au] [hackm] Orcranger (Tou Hob Mal Neu) completed his quest without incident, on T:14096 (7:18:52) 08:37 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 08:42 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Mal Law), 146 points, T:924, killed by a small mimic 08:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:41227 08:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Plane of Earth, on T:41227 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Plane of Air, on T:41348 08:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Plane of Fire, on T:41469 08:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2480 points, T:1437, killed by a gnome 09:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 Blessed potions of gain level", got "2 potions of gain level", on T:18676 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered Plane of Water, on T:41515 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "3 holy charging", got "3 scrolls labeled VENZAR BORGAVVE", on T:4861 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "The orb of fate", got "a glass orb named the Orb of Fate", on T:5118 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:41587 09:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:19642 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found the Eye of the Aethiopica carried by a monster, on T:19642 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:19646 09:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "holy fixed +3 cloak of magic resistance", got "an opera cloak", on T:5350 09:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2940 09:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class h, on T:20008 09:17 -!- viryanah has joined #hardfought 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", got "a pair of hiking boots", on T:20015 09:20 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 09:21 [hdf-us] [fh] cpittman (Sam Hum Mal Law), 40320 points, T:2890, killed by a soldier ant 09:21 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 248 points, T:1259, killed by a hobbit 09:22 -!- viryanah has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:24 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 09:24 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:24 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 09:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 385614 points, T:20218, poisoned by Demogorgon 09:27 -!- oh6 has quit [Client Quit] 09:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Mon Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:7226 09:35 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:39 @dyn?guivre 09:39 @un?guivre 09:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:2059 (0:20:57) 09:43 @u?guivre 09:43 guivre (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: acid petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 20 | Gen: sheol gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 breath acid, 3d8 bite physical, 1d4 claw physical, 1d4 claw physical | Align: 7 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 09:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2570 (0:24:20) 09:45 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 09:46 Thanks K2. Just wanted to check the spelling for revgeno. 09:47 Looks like you can't get scales from revgeno in dyna anyway. 09:47 :/ 09:47 dyna is a lot of fun 09:48 maybe i should try to actually play hackem 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:41599 09:50 i dont wanna have to learn a weird subset of evilhack rules though that sound confusing + a bunch of slashem content and slashthem content thrown on top sounds really confusing to me. are there any good entrypoint guides or references for getting into hackem? 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Death (2nd time), on T:41606 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh13d] nabru (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) shouted "*@&%!!", on T:12 09:50 fwiw the next version of hackem will have a lot less evilhack and more slashem 09:50 i think id enjoy it more if slam had had stuff flow in from evilhack but evilhack is a much more solid base than slam because slam is a nightmare (years of bug fixes) 09:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Death (3rd time), on T:41616 09:51 trying to think of "weird evilhack rules"... 09:51 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 09:52 there is the stuff with partial resistance 09:52 '... using this one weird trick!' 09:52 mostly means that crowning early is a good thing 09:53 stuff like dragon passive disint 09:53 and grunthack style beholders and gel cubes.. idk im thinking about the rules im not even aware of 09:53 like wtf is purgatory 09:53 and how does vlads work now 09:54 (dont answer i can find out myself) 09:54 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 09:54 dragon passives are well described on the hackem page 09:54 they are a bit different from evil 09:54 maybe i should start with the hackem page 09:54 it's very well documented 09:54 hackem doesnt have purgatory 09:54 and old style Vlad 09:55 old style means 3.6 hyperspeed vlad? 09:55 layout I mean 09:55 two hander of decay? 09:55 not the more modern evilhack layout 09:55 wait maybe thats gnollhack that gives him a draining two handed sword i forget 09:55 yeah Lifestealer 09:56 both in evil and hackem 09:56 [hdf-eu] [nh343] gbataille (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 652 points, T:1346, killed by a water moccasin 09:56 but by that point you should already have drain res 09:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] Rx (Hea Gno Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4353 09:58 I like to answer anyway... gelcubes don't engulf you. There are beholders (those will be gone in the next version) 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 2684984 points, T:41646, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/F/Flench/nethack/dumplog/1689078419.nh.html 09:59 lifestealer came from sporkhack 09:59 yeah next hackem, much less evilhack 10:00 not sure when they plan on release 10:00 * K2 slaps hackemslashem around a bit with a large trout 10:02 -!- petra_the_kat has joined #hardfought 10:04 on an unrelated note... this is what can happen if you read an unidentified scroll at the start of a game - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2584 10:05 'oooh i found genocide!' 10:05 things oyu learn the hard way 10:06 *you 10:06 si 10:07 [hdf-eu] [nh343] gbataille (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "athame", on T:4 10:09 sometimes you take an L 10:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] Rx (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 2300 points, T:5197, quit 10:12 -!- StivRichards has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:14 K2: scroll of instant party! 10:14 :P 10:14 forge it with a potion of booze to make something cool 10:19 [hdf-eu] [nh343] gbataille (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 228 points, T:594, killed by a kobold 10:27 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8817 (1:06:29) 10:33 [hdf-eu] [nh343] gbataille (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 276 points, T:995, killed by a small mimic, while fainted from lack of food 10:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:9499 (1:12:41) 10:34 -!- attie has joined #hardfought 10:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 20137 points, T:9551, killed by a giant beetle, while sleeping 10:36 K2: noted lol 10:36 hackemslashem: Message from @fredriq at 2023-07-05 07:38 EDT: saw your UnNetHack review, pretty interesting vid overall 10:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 125 points, T:303, killed by a boulder 10:36 Oh that's nice :) 10:36 [hdf-eu] [nh343] gbataille (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 83 points, T:494, killed by a jackal 10:38 [hdf-au] [dyn] Ken (Tangles) (Con Orc Mal Cha), 23840 points, T:37591, killed by Asmodeus 10:38 There's probably a fair amount of stuff I've imported that didn't actually come from the source I ported from :P Feel free to email me corrections 10:38 Well that sucked more than expected. 10:42 :( 10:43 [hdf-eu] [nh343] gbataille (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 186 points, T:326, killed by a water moccasin 10:46 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 10:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:19269 10:47 Oh well that one had to end at some point. Been going since July last year and wasn't getting any easier. 10:49 Demo: The hackem wiki should guide you through most questions, I need to update a bunch of stuff before the next release, but also the ingame lookup is getting much better so I hope that bypasses a lot of wiki lookups 10:50 -!- viryanah has joined #hardfought 10:50 I'm still stuck on how to get the alignment keys and doors working so for now the alignment quests are totally optional 10:50 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:51 hackemslashem: monh giant starts with a robe of power on that is too small for it 10:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] arrow (Ran Hum Fem Neu), 1003 points, T:2198, killed by a dwarf 10:53 I think that has been fixed 10:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5393 points, T:2812, killed by a dust vortex 10:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) performed her first genocide (giant eels), on T:292 (0:01:00) 10:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 198 points, T:418, killed by a bolt of cold 10:56 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:115348 (1 day, 15:10:56) 10:57 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 10:57 [hdf-us] [fh] cpittman (Sam Hum Mal Law) received advice from The Oracle, on T:3471 10:58 hackemslashem I think the solution was to allow robes for giants? 10:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Snickersnee by Shan Lai Ching, on T:19914 10:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:937 (0:04:05) 11:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1359 (0:05:32) 11:01 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 11:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 11:04 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:04 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_dynasty#/media/File:QinEmpireWithOrdos.jpg 11:04 why does this look so much like Europe 11:06 maybe it's a sign that China is destined to conquer Europe 11:07 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:07 there is only one contintent but it got copied and malformed several times 11:08 -!- anselmus has joined #hardfought 11:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Heretic, on T:2829 (0:13:56) 11:11 [hdf-eu] [nh343] gbataille (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1241 points, T:2271, poisoned by a rotted newt corpse 11:12 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:48493 11:13 Bartlem's Orcus bones! 11:14 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3300 (0:18:49) 11:16 Your copper elven long sword named !c seems very unwieldy. --> is this simply a warning of two-weapon being unskilled? it's my offhand weapon 11:17 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:17 are you playing evilhack eggandhull? 11:18 if so it means your offhand weapon is too heavy for you to properly fight with it. as you train two-weapon it increases the weight of the offhand weapon you can use effectively 11:18 they are 11:18 eggandhull - https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/EvilHack#Twoweaponing 11:19 even once you train it up a level you might need to use a lighter weapon 11:19 evilhack should do what dnh did and make the tohit penalty scale with oversizedness 11:20 so if your max offhand weight is 30 and you try to offhand something that weighs 35 aum, you only hit with the difference tohit (in this case -5) 11:20 i think dnh used to just be a flat -20 if overweight 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an elf-lord, on T:15388 11:21 with custom materials (and in dnh sizes) some items can end up just overweight and with this more merciful rule it makes them possible to use if you can make up for the tohit reduction 11:22 oh hmm, it seems those boundaries are deliberate to account for barring better mats like silver in some cases 11:23 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 11:23 well, when evilhack implements object sizes (it should) and things get more complicated then maybe switching to difference based tohit might make sense 11:24 Ok, I found Bartlem's Orcus bones... but also found Demogorgon and Jubilex! 11:25 party bones 11:25 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 11:25 I killed Orcus prett quick with a cocky egg, but then Demo & Jubes turned up 11:26 does Demo heal his own stoning in vanila 370? 11:26 no 11:26 well yeah if they have a lizard corpse or acid blob 11:26 K2 thanks. cool then, because I have a few eggs in my pack 11:27 but vanilla monsters cant cast stone to flesh 11:27 glad I don't have to go find potions of paralysis 11:27 holy hand grenades 11:27 I prefer to personal approach 11:27 the 11:27 oh wait vanilla monster stoning is immediate 11:27 that's why I love it 11:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 12724 points, T:5735, killed by an ape 11:28 in other variants you have to paralyse them so they can't heal themselves while getting stoned 11:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a titanothere, on T:6843 11:31 it just feels great to whack something with a cockatrice corpse and instantly stone it 11:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Fem Law), 7161 points, T:6872, killed by a white unicorn 11:32 at the same time it feels pretty bad to fall down and whack yourself with a cockatrice corpse and instantly stone yourself 11:32 [hdf-eu] [un] Uncleleo (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1484 (0:07:46) 11:32 so there are pros and cons 11:32 :) 11:32 I like the bop-bop-bop playing pinball in the Castle 11:32 K2 I can't remember, considering there's no instant stoning of monsters in EvilHack from hitting them with a cockatrice corpse are instadeaths from stoning also changed to run on a timer? 11:33 so I can just slam this egg down demo's throat 11:33 It is more that in evil, the monsters get a timer like you do 11:33 qt no 11:33 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 11:33 you can still instastone yourself falling down stairs with a footrice corpse in inv 11:34 or medusa's gaze 11:34 [hdf-eu] [un] Uncleleo (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered a shop, on T:1950 (0:09:52) 11:34 no you can't 11:35 you have to be wielding it 11:35 hothraxxa is right 11:35 I've done it a few times 11:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1476 points, T:1285, killed by a drow zombie 11:40 [hdf-eu] [nh343] gbataille (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 859 points, T:2637, killed by a pony 11:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2172 points, T:1260, killed by an ape 11:44 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:48522 11:45 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:48524 11:45 and there he goes 11:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:54614 (22:31:57) 11:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1180 points, T:1518, killed by spear trap 11:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 178 points, T:299, killed by a gas spore's explosion 11:49 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Sam Inf Mal Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu, on T:35264 11:51 isn't there some way to instantly stone yourself just by carrying it in inventory? falling into a pit? 11:51 [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) performed her first annihilation (adherers), on T:57891 (1 day, 19:29:53) 11:52 qt: no 11:52 qt that is when wielding it 11:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1306 points, T:732, killed by a giant beetle 11:52 wow I thought it was dangerous somehow just to have it in open inventory 11:52 the biggest danger with having a c corpse in open inventory 11:53 it is. you can accidentally eat it 11:53 is accidentally eating it 11:53 make sure it is not "y" or "e" 11:53 I make it "K" or something 11:53 i use Q or q 11:54 i use those both already unf 11:54 Q is my amulet, and q is my whistle 11:54 but K is free as a bird 11:54 Q is normally my wand of cancellation 11:54 Quool 11:55 you're an aquool 11:55 Bartlem's ghost has bravely run away 11:56 let's check his loot 11:56 oooo, magic lamp. No more recharging this manky old oil lamp 11:57 a boh... and this happens to be the one time I don't have a wand of cancellation with me... 11:57 what's w then 11:58 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 11:58 -!- oh6 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:58 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 11:58 w is also free (for me) 11:59 <@shadow_rider> w is for leash/magic whistle 11:59 w is faster than q 11:59 <@shadow_rider> now to read backscroll to see if i read the room right or not 11:59 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 11:59 w is faster only is you use two hands 12:00 whut? 12:00 if you turn the keyboard 90 degres left, you can do "aq" really fast for getting pets onto poly traps 12:00 * hothraxxa looks at his keyboard 12:01 i do not understand this need for speed 12:01 sorry i asked lol 12:01 canadian keyboards have a 'sorry' key 12:01 first lesson of nethack: nothing happens until you press a key 12:01 because you have to repeat calling your pet onto a poly trap many times 12:02 variants are nerfing that 12:02 how boring 12:02 i don't like that, it's fun 12:02 to be able to turn polytraps to your advantage 12:02 and having them sometimes produce terrifying out of depth monsters is a good tradeoff imo 12:02 adds spice 12:02 not only will pets not land on the trap, they won't swap positions with you 12:03 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2393 points, T:2740, killed by a mountain dwarf, while sleeping 12:03 of course other variants simply revert the polyform after a while 12:03 developers hate strategies that make the game easier 12:04 that's why I try to be careful about what strategies I discuss here 12:04 * hothraxxa swings his impossibly wide brush 12:05 if you really want to know what I do, you can watch or the ttyrec is always there 12:05 i know what you do 12:05 if i don't get this month's payment soon, it's going on twitter 12:05 i believe that's called a dick move 12:05 vanilla polytrap behavior is like having a wand of poly with infinite charges 12:05 developers like to call that 'unbalanced' 12:05 no it isn't 12:06 nerfing something with no rationale 12:06 yeah it is 12:06 define balance 12:06 1. 12:06 an even distribution of weight enabling someone or something to remain upright and steady. 12:06 "she lost her balance before falling" 12:06 monsters can use the poly trap like a wand with no charges 12:06 k2: the day i can drop scrolls on a poly trap and have them poly, i'll agree with you 12:06 so fairs fair 12:06 in regards to monsters, yes it is 12:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1085 points, T:977, killed by a flint stone 12:07 not objects 12:07 goofball 12:07 am not 12:07 are so 12:07 you are 12:07 I want to revert the instant c stoning, but K2 hide that commit so well I can't seem to find it! 12:07 nyah 12:07 people talk about giving monsters player advantages, how about giving players monsters advantages? 12:07 MOM! HE'S TOUCHING ME AGAIN 12:07 lol 12:07 like always IDing new items automatically 12:08 Grassy, in evilhack, players auto know scrolls of id, potions of water and blanks crolls 12:08 *scrolls 12:08 hackemslashem: you want to revert instant c stoning? you mean that you want to make it so it _does_ instantly stone monsters again? 12:08 that just makes sense K2! 12:08 :P 12:08 ikr? 12:08 qt yes that! 12:09 heh 12:09 <@shadow_rider> idk maybe should depend on intelligence 12:09 <@shadow_rider> sometimes i can’t tell if water is water 12:09 revert the change and make footrice corpses weigh 2000 aum 12:09 <@shadow_rider> irl 12:09 hothraxxa lol 12:10 balance, amirite? 12:10 keep or put (something) in a steady position so that it does not fall. 12:10 "a mug that she balanced on her knee" 12:10 [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (DarkFeathr) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) unlocked the Ranger role by using stairs, on T:416 12:11 hackemslashem: the initial commit is 2f58ace9324dd124fe45068387872f3943a387ad 12:11 limiting pet poly to X changes would be more reasonable 12:11 omg this apple i got for kunch is huge 12:11 YUGE 12:11 *lunch 12:11 qt: Oh snap, tx! 12:11 it's received a lot of further changes since then though so it's not like you'll be able to literally revert it 12:11 so Evilhack is like a mug balanced on her knee? 12:12 or his 12:12 but you could see what changes there are in what areas and adjust them manually 12:12 sic 12:14 Does it go both ways? Like if a monster hits you is that instant stoning before that patch, or was it slow? 12:14 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 12:14 it was always slow stong for the player 12:14 stoning 12:14 jfc i cant type 12:15 If you got whacked with a c corpse too? I thought I've been insta bricked that way but probably bad memory 12:16 yeah in vanilla, player gets hit by a footrice corpse, its slow 12:17 ahh ok 12:17 do same to a monster, its instant 12:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful revenant, on T:55046 (22:39:42) 12:17 a few variants made it so for monsters it was slow like it is for the player 12:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Aphrodite, on T:1853 (0:10:13) 12:17 yeah it's just tragic footrice accidents that instastone the player 12:17 si 12:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4644 points, T:1974, killed by a torrent of acid 12:18 Scuze me, you gonna eat that? 12:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:55073 (22:41:19) 12:19 <@tommigustafsson> In GnollHack, Vlad has a legendary infernal spear (= 4x base damage + 2 mythic abilities). 12:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:55138 (22:42:13) 12:20 sounds like a graet weapon for a barbie 12:20 or cav or similar 12:22 in other news - https://www.hardfought.org/phpBB3/gallery/image/2634 12:24 [hdf-eu] [nh343] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 14 points, T:22, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 12:27 [hdf-eu] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:32, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 12:28 speaking of gnoll, amy's review was hilarious but apparently gnoll changed up the keybindings for no apparent reason 12:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1977 points, T:1850, killed by a dust vortex 12:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 7 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27517 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Celefoombor (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 1839 points, T:3196, killed by a vampire lord 12:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1904 points, T:1300, killed by a forest centaur 12:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:380 (0:01:32) 12:39 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 633 points, T:408, killed by a piranha 12:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 44 points, T:54, killed by a sewer rat 12:41 [hdf-us] [spl] GemOfWonder (Pir Mer Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5254 12:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 150 points, T:478, killed by a magic missile, while sleeping 12:47 [hdf-us] [spl] GemOfWonder (Pir Mer Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:6198 12:48 [hdf-us] [spl] GemOfWonder (Pir Mer Fem Neu), 5895 points, T:6223, killed by a mumak 12:48 [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (DarkFeathr) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "+9 blessed grayswandir", on T:909 12:50 [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (DarkFeathr) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "+9 blessed silver dragon scale mail", on T:910 12:51 <@tommigustafsson> It was for a good reason. Mainly, we harmonized Alt-Q "quit" by changing Save to Alt-S. Then, we changed Alt-E to S (Skills), because we made skills more important in GnollHack. There were also some other changes, such as Chat being C (instead of Call), since talking is more important in GnollHack than in NetHack. 12:52 <@tommigustafsson> Anyways, there's Bind command in options, which can be used to revert the changes. 12:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2774 points, T:2151, killed by a champion of Brigit 12:54 [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (DarkFeathr) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "9 blessed royal jelly", on T:1084 12:54 [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (DarkFeathr) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) unlocked the Rogue role by using long stairs, on T:1101 12:55 that doesn't sound too bad but early monsters with almost 100 hp does 12:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:816 (0:03:21) 12:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:985 (0:04:45) 12:58 [hdf-eu] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) performed her first genocide (giant eels), on T:2159 (0:13:15) 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Tou Hum Mal Neu) murdered Ferret, his faithful dog, on T:1968 13:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 954 points, T:1981, killed by an exploding wand 13:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:3087 (0:17:45) 13:11 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5582 points, T:3146, killed by a dwarf lady 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:118761 (1 day, 17:26:35) 13:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:282 (0:01:00) 13:19 the spell of polymorph is more like a wand of polymorph with infinite charges than polytraps 13:21 hackemslashem I think the solution was to allow robes for giants? 13:21 I don't think that ever happened, only for the grandmaster's robe 13:21 the solution was to make them not start with robes 13:22 Yes precisely 13:23 ah ok! 13:25 Demo: hackem gel cubes do not have an engulf attack, and purgatory does not exist 13:25 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:6013 (0:53:15) 13:26 In the latest version, the beholder is now unique as it was in slashem, but the version on hardfought has beholders 13:28 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the Largest Giant, on T:60788 (1 day, 3:20:27) 13:28 rip Largest Giant 13:29 the spell of polymorph is more like a wand of polymorph with infinite charges than polytraps <--- false. there's a cost 13:30 plus that spell is high level, not any role can cast it whenever they want 13:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 5343 points, T:4088, killed by an owlbear 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) genocided two random monsters from class R, on T:119354 (1 day, 17:48:55) 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) genocided green slimes, on T:119356 (1 day, 17:49:20) 13:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) genocided shocking spheres, on T:119356 (1 day, 17:49:31) 13:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) genocided gray dragons, on T:119357 (1 day, 17:49:47) 13:38 [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (DarkFeathr) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Minetown temple, on T:2245 13:38 [hdf-us] [4k] wizard (DarkFeathr) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) unlocked the Monk role by entering the Minetown temple, on T:2245 13:41 The cost is waiting to regenerate pw, although of course you will forget the spell eventually 13:44 [hdf-eu] [un] Uncleleo (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1789 points, T:5412, killed by a bolt of cold 13:48 [hdf-us] [spl] GemOfWonder (Car Dro Fem Neu) attained the rank of Player, on T:4289 13:49 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) rejected atheism by offering a hill orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:7381 (1:16:44) 13:52 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 9503 points, T:7572, killed by a chameleon imitating an elder minotaur 13:52 a subway footlong is $15 now, yikes 13:52 amy reviewed gnollhack? where? 13:53 used to be $5 13:53 i read yesterday a big mac combo meal is now 18 bucks 13:53 [hdf-us] [hackm] willisllama (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 635 points, T:930, killed by a kobold lord 13:54 a little known fact is that the prices at mcd's vary between outlets, even in the same city 13:54 https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/f0qb0b/gnollhack_test_run/ 13:54 ty 13:55 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mcdonalds-prices-big-mac-sparks-expensive-menu-darien-connecticut-debate-online/ 13:55 heh 13:55 apparently that's from the most expensive mcdonalds on the planet 13:56 well in the US 13:56 stupid sink is backed up but not gonna blow $40 on breakfast 13:56 sweden seems to have the most expensive big mac of anywhere 13:56 of course my source is the interwebz/trust me bro, so take it with a grain of salt 13:56 that will prob cost you 3 bucks 13:57 glad i stopped eating fast food years and years ago 13:58 the prob with making your own is too much at once 13:58 <@shadow_rider> food is so expensive but i love food so i will save all my money from other things to splurge on food 13:58 make food that stands over well 13:58 <@shadow_rider> even stuff i cook myself i wi splurge 13:58 <@shadow_rider> will 13:58 rather than that being a problem, it's the way i like to cook 13:59 cook once, get several meals 13:59 <@shadow_rider> i try to meal prep but i eat so much it never works out 13:59 hothraxxa yeah that's the way to do it 13:59 <@shadow_rider> i’ll double the 4 to 8 servings but it lasts 2 meals 13:59 <3 leftovers 13:59 in our household, most of our eating is my cooking 14:00 in our house, my wife cooks, i clean 14:00 other way round here 14:00 i also handle the grill/smoker 14:00 i'm as frugal as they come but i do find leftovers very unappealing 14:00 <@shadow_rider> y’all got it figured out :) 14:00 i'm just a better cook that she is 14:00 she agrees 14:01 anselmus depending on what you make, the leftovers can taste better than the initial meal 14:01 we didn't even finish the last bbq and had to put in freezer 14:01 anselmus: chili, soups, and stews in particular are much better left over 14:01 ^ this 14:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] bolt (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 13807 points, T:14168, quit 14:01 well maybe but i think that has limits 14:01 pretty much anything tomato-based is better left over 14:01 my wife is a much better cook than I am, and having spent 20 yrs in the army, i can clean like a mofo 14:02 it's still the same ingredient in everything 14:02 actually if you prepare the right foods, they provide a lot of variety 14:02 omg i love thanksgiving leftovers 14:03 eg my spaghetti sauce forms the base for a decent soup if you want 14:03 i make onion or mushroom gravy and it's the base for all sorts of different meals 14:04 easy to make, highly versatile 14:04 <@shadow_rider> one day i hope to acquire the skill of cooking using whatever we have in the refrigerator 14:04 <@shadow_rider> i have good skills so i can follow recipe very well but only if i plan and have all the ingredients 14:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 2501 points, T:2170, killed by a dwarf lord 14:05 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 82945 points, T:21598, killed by a drow 14:06 my wife never uses a cookbook, it's pretty amazing 14:06 just keep doing it shadow 14:06 and it's always different every day 14:06 anselmus hah my wife is the same 14:07 'how did you make this? its amazing' 'I dont remember' 14:07 <@shadow_rider> i have the utmost respect for those people 14:08 k2: i remember the method but not the exact ingredients, mainly because that depends on what's around when i cook 14:09 <@shadow_rider> i was working on a hackathon project and one team was trying to make an app that let you take a picture of fridge and it spits out potential recipes 14:09 <@shadow_rider> that’s something i need in my life 14:09 oh i saw that on silicone valley 14:09 hah 14:10 so this review from amy a) is 3 years old, and b) shows she didn't really play much 14:10 many of her criticisms are just plain wrong 14:11 basically it's the same "$variant isn't 3.4.3" whine 14:11 yup 14:11 also a moderator destroyed the thread for reasons i can't see 14:12 and gnollhack development has come a long way since 14:12 it has 14:12 i like gnoll and reccommend it 14:12 as for the key binding differences, that's true in lots of variants and you can fix them if you like 14:12 i think this was posted during the time of the controversy surrounding gnollhack wanting to charge $$$ for the game 14:12 oh well that i didn't like 14:13 <@shadow_rider> hothraxxa what are your favorite variants? 14:13 i like grunt 14:13 <@shadow_rider> ok 14:13 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:13 xnethack for the near-vanilla experience 14:13 and i really like gnoll 14:13 his fav is evilhack even though he bad mouths it 14:14 <@shadow_rider> questioning the validity of your opinions based on the grunt love 14:14 <@shadow_rider> /j 14:14 everytime he makes a snide comment, it really means 'I <3 evil' 14:14 it was when i was doing my 16 ascensions 14:14 sir do you dare to impugn the lady with dishonesty *slap* 14:14 no sire, i do not. i impugn her with inaccuracy and ignorance 14:15 <@shadow_rider> anselmus have you tried gnoll yet? 14:15 noo don't make me play gh bro 14:15 and i hate gnomes 14:15 oh and i also like fourk 14:15 <@shadow_rider> when you say gh do you mean gnollhack or grunthack 14:16 i have played the latter 14:16 once 14:16 <@shadow_rider> hothraxxa you are interesting feller 14:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:16 hm. i will take that as a compliment 14:17 <@shadow_rider> i like that you support many lesser played variants 14:17 <@shadow_rider> yes take as compliment 14:17 then i thank you 14:17 i also like unnh 14:17 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:23, killed by a kobold zombie 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:8, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:17 [hdf-us] [spl] GemOfWonder (Car Dro Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:8185 14:17 K2: Noone respectable eats at McDonalds when we have MAX! 14:18 [hdf-us] [spl] GemOfWonder (Car Dro Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:8279 14:18 another country heard from 14:18 [hdf-us] [hackm] willisllama (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 996 points, T:1617, killed by a flint stone 14:19 waiting on the brits to bring up greg's 14:20 er 14:20 greggs 14:22 * hothraxxa opens a shop selling lutfisk and surstromming 14:22 "food for people without noses" 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1708 (0:11:42) 14:24 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:1791 (0:13:03) 14:24 apparently mcd's is the one food people can eat every day for years without ever getting sick of it 14:24 *cough*chocolate*cough* 14:25 yeah maybe it's the additives 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:58603 14:27 time to auger the sink 14:28 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:28 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Wizard (level 26), on T:58644 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Celefoombor (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 296 points, T:1811, killed by a small mimic 14:31 is xnethack still near-vanilla with the gehennom changes? 14:32 <@shadow_rider> not so much anymore 14:35 Is there any way to kill Asmodeus/Demogorgon in xnethack without letting them cast any spells at you (because intrinsic theft and effective -10 luck for d2000+500 turns with no way to remove it early is very bad)? 14:35 what is intrinsic theft 14:35 ? 14:36 <@shadow_rider> stealing intrinsic i assume 14:36 ohh 14:36 you lose intrinsics, like the gremlin attack 14:36 I thought it was "intrinsic theft" 14:36 like you gain a theft intrinsic that randomly steals items from you, like a thiefstone 14:36 lol 14:40 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:3893 (0:28:40) 14:42 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) had a stone knife entrusted to her by Lolth, on T:4189 (0:30:31) 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 90 points, T:182, killed by a fox 14:48 [hdf-us] [hackm] willisllama (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 760 points, T:1592, killed by a rabid rabbit 14:48 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Everdying (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:2067 14:48 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:50 [hdf-us] [spl] GemOfWonder (Car Dro Fem Neu), 4630 points, T:8632, killed by a killer mimic 14:51 -!- Hekik_ is now known as Hekik 14:52 [hdf-us] [spl] GemOfWonder (Arc Inf Fem Law), 105 points, T:228, killed by a fox 14:53 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:120175 (1 day, 19:08:35) 14:53 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:53 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:120176 (1 day, 19:08:42) 14:56 [hdf-us] [spl] GemOfWonder (Con Vam Fem Cha), 149 points, T:573, killed by a hobbit, while fainted from lack of food 14:58 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1068 (0:16:00) 15:01 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:01 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Cen Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1846 (0:13:18) 15:01 -!- Arseniy has joined #hardfought 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1130 (0:19:42) 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Cen Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:2339 (0:16:56) 15:05 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Cen Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible k2's ghost, the former Adept, on T:2350 (0:17:15) 15:11 [hdf-us] [spl] GemOfWonder (Con Vam Fem Cha), 498 points, T:1428, killed by a gnome 15:21 [hdf-us] [un] bismatum (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:146476 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Cen Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:3883 (0:33:40) 15:24 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:24 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:25 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:28 Hi 15:28 Hello Umbire, Welcome to #hardfought 15:28 I miss anything important? 15:28 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Cen Fem Cha), 12090 points, T:4499, killed by a tiger, while praying 15:28 not much 15:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] arrow (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 967 points, T:1793, killed by a giant ant 15:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 15:32 Coo'. Gonna see if I can chew up some wiki backlog. 15:32 there was some controversy over the nerfing of poly traps for polying pets 15:32 for a given definition of """controversy""" I take it 15:33 an agreement was definitely not reached 15:36 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:38 casual Discord-side grep shows the air quotes were justified 15:38 anyway 15:38 I wonder if I try Gnollhack again today, on that note 15:38 it's absolutely come a long way and seems genuinely fascinating to hear about 15:38 I just 15:38 don't play it much 15:46 I don't see any recent commits for the polytrap thing. In hackem I just copied the splice behavior where there's a 1 in 7 chance the trap goes away after it polys a pet 15:47 I feel like that's the standard for variant 'nerfing' of those 15:47 (they are nerfs, just one I don't think I even really hate at all) 15:48 granted I'm also infinitely less picky about pets than I could be 15:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kewl (Ran Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2010 15:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:56738 (1 day, 0:16:08) 15:52 SLASH'EM changes to polyforms in general also constitute a "nerf" but an interesting one 15:52 though I forget if Hack'EM adopted that mechanic 15:52 I know it didn't carry over the item thing 15:52 (and just as well, that was ultra-exploitable) 15:55 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 15:56 that's the thing, it's already so rare that it's not exploitable 15:57 and not particularly useful except to a paci 15:59 I was talking about polymorphing items 15:59 specifically in SLASH'EM 15:59 that thing where you can get like +127 Excals or w/e 16:00 I thought that was for weptools 16:00 oh but you upgrade thats right 16:01 tinker pick to mattock probably 16:01 Also the reverse 16:02 poly weapon -> mattock -> tinkered pick-axe -> charged tool 16:05 so many holes it works both ways 16:06 tinkering + temp poly probably has other interesting interactions 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:38904 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) found the Platinum Yendorian Express Card carried by a monster, on T:38904 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38905 16:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] stagnate (Tou Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon (cursed runed dagger) for the first time, on T:3749 16:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3899 16:15 -!- mobileuser has 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points, T:7907, killed by an owlbear 16:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered Radio, her faithful little dog, on T:7907 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) genocided shocking spheres, on T:24420 16:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Kni Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:4030 16:45 [hdf-us] [slth] DarkFeathr (Jed Elf Fem Law), 511 points, T:1345, died of starvation 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Kni Hum Fem Law), 4920 points, T:4974, killed by an ettin mummy, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 340 points, T:664, killed by a little dog 16:56 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 164 points, T:190, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2 points, T:35, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:58 [hdf-eu] [un] Dhpx (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:5536 (1:40:22) 16:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 100 points, T:105, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:59 [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Nebuchadnezzar, on T:61605 (1 day, 23:10:49) 16:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:46, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:59 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Nbn Law), 2 points, T:6, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:948 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2210 17:12 [hdf-us] [slth] DarkFeathr (Jed Hum Mal Law), 186 points, T:94, killed by a little dog 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 2919 points, T:3725, killed by a snake 17:13 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:23 !PoM 17:23 APic: The moon is new for 1 more day. 17:30 [hdf-us] [fh] Lin (DarkFeathr) (Sam Hum Fem Law), 25055 points, T:728, killed by a rabid rat, in explore mode 17:30 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby gold dragon 17:34 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Student of Waters (level 14), on T:24611 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Sunsword by Shan Lai Ching, on T:24870 17:57 -!- petra_the_kat has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:763 (0:54:59) 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 52844 points, T:20385, killed by an elf-lord 18:01 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 10007 points, T:8584, killed by a tortle shaman, while paralyzed by a monster 18:05 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 18:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Fire Brand by Shan Lai Ching, on T:25651 18:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] arrow (Ran Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 10 silver arrows on an altar, on T:4759 18:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] arrow (Ran Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4871 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:26542 18:21 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 18:21 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 18:22 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3245 (1:18:45) 18:22 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 18:22 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 18:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:3282 (1:19:23) 18:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2541 18:25 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 18:25 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 18:41 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Dwa Mal Law), 350208 points, T:44803, fell to his death 18:44 -!- petra_the_kat has joined #hardfought 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was bestowed with Magicbane by Anhur, on T:6453 18:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6815 18:52 -!- terrapin has joined #hardfought 18:53 [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:62820 (2 days, 0:36:41) 18:53 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 18:53 -!- viryanah has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:04 Asking about something new in NH370 19:05 I found a "tempered" helm of brilliance in a bones pile... what is this and how is it done? 19:05 Grassy: was added recently 19:05 because helms of brilliance could be generated as metallic, which would hamper spellcasting 19:05 I've done the usual confused scroll thing to fix before, but it did nothing 19:06 or is it that I need to do it again now that it has been added? 19:06 "Tempered" is just "fixed" 19:06 helms of brilliance are crystal now 19:06 i know that 19:06 but I've tried "fixing" them before to nil result 19:07 I've even wished them up "fixed" 19:07 Ah 19:07 Might be that the bones were post-addition 19:07 ? 19:07 nabru: helms of brilliance were always iron and did not hinder spellcasting because there was a specific exception 19:07 Noisytoot: ah 19:07 or maybe I didn't bother this last time, because I thought you couldn't get them fixed anyways 19:07 the point of making them crystal is to remove the exception 19:08 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/f9a35132d6caad172c5987182e6984e6c50e0dcb 19:08 indeed 19:08 is there a special process to follow? or just the same? Does it work with cursed scrolls of destroy armor? 19:09 thanks for the link nabru 19:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered Furfles, her faithful kitten, on T:1094 19:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Sioh (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 805 points, T:2067, killed by the Goblin King 19:16 Still not sure why my earlier efforts to "temper" my own helm of brilliance did not work... 19:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1357 19:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4697 points, T:4218, killed by a dwarf queen 19:18 [hdf-us] [hackm] Kewl (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 942 points, T:1081, killed by a crossbow bolt 19:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1605 points, T:1638, killed by a magic missile cast by herself 19:25 how did that happen nabru? ^^ 19:25 Grassy: accidentally zapped MM in teh wrong direction 19:25 *the\ 19:25 *the 19:26 xnh MR only halves magic missile damage 19:26 ah I see 19:26 another variant stops MM from bouncing too, can't remember which one 19:32 -!- Tangles has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:34 killed a wolf and it dropped a leash. Killed next wolf and it dropped a tin whistle. Are these wolves trying to tell me something? 19:36 [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:63877 (2 days, 1:19:48) 19:38 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found Frost Brand in a container, on T:48883 19:39 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Sam Inf Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:40365 19:40 after a good sleep, 19:40 I'm finally getting back to Bartlem's Orcus/Demogorgon/Jubilex bones loot, specifically the bag of holding 19:40 had to come back with a wand of cancellation 19:42 Frost Brand, WoW, 12 scrolls of charging, OMG a lot of potions, 3 markers... 19:42 lucky it was Frot Brand, as I already have Fire Brand 19:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kewl (Ran Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2028 19:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kewl (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 3177 points, T:2134, killed by a gnomish wizard 19:46 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kewl (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 795 points, T:741, killed by a marid 19:52 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Cen Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1414 (0:10:14) 19:52 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:7199 (1:29:37) 19:53 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Cen Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1564 (0:11:35) 19:53 @e?gollum 19:53 Gollum (h) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 10 | Res: poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: unique | AC: 6 | Atk: 2d4 weapon physical, 1d2 weapon item steal | Align: -10 | omnivore, swims, nopoly, stalker, infravis 19:56 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had a steel short sword entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:7349 (1:33:02) 19:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kewl (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 567 points, T:1009, killed by a gnome 19:59 -!- terrapin has joined #hardfought 20:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Demogorgon, on T:65565 20:00 -!- petra_the_kat has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- oh6 has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- anselmus has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- lorimer has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- 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too large... 20:10 gotcha 20:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Glasya, on T:68085 20:16 Hi Vlad 20:16 Bye Vlad 20:16 Didn't livelog that either, annoying 20:17 ...there is a ki-rin on my screen! 20:19 what are you playing Umbire 20:19 Oh I'm just traipsing around in Un's Gehennom 20:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:68359 20:19 literally just dealt with Vlad, I was whittling him down, then he warped near my suped-up purple worm 20:20 It livelogs stuff like branch entrances but apparently didn't tick Vlad or Candelabrum off the list 20:21 Tangent, opera cloak is cloak of displacement 20:23 would be cool if V were generated with these occasionally 20:24 Common variant change + the reason I said it 20:29 cool 20:30 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1182 (0:07:14) 20:31 [hdf-us] [un] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:242 (0:31:35) 20:31 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:1246 (0:08:11) 20:32 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 1434 points, T:1294, killed by a piranha 20:33 -!- petra_the_kat has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:34 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:120980 (1 day, 20:06:56) 20:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:120996 (1 day, 20:07:27) 20:35 [hdf-us] [un] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Minetown, on T:1288 (0:36:07) 20:37 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:121112 (1 day, 20:09:40) 20:38 I could just leave this ki-rin in its lil' niche with the coffin and just go about my business 20:39 But on the other hand, free stuff, and it's standing between me and said stuff 20:42 [hdf-us] [un] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1749 points, T:1990, killed by a gnome 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the orcish high priestess of Moloch, on T:121310 (1 day, 20:16:34) 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:121312 (1 day, 20:16:41) 20:46 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 788 points, T:1477, killed by a dwarvish spear 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] stagnate (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2904 points, T:5909, killed by a poisonous corpse 20:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Lucifer, on T:121378 (1 day, 20:21:34) 20:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Purgatory, on T:121384 (1 day, 20:22:23) 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Saint Michael, on T:121510 (1 day, 20:27:10) 20:58 melee'd ki-rin down 20:59 I feel like some Dragon Caves next 20:59 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 21:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:121995 (1 day, 20:33:17) 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] korlithiel (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2 points, T:331, killed by a water moccasin 21:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jack (Mad Inc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:15020 21:13 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:122252 (1 day, 20:37:30) 21:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed stagnate's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:4144 21:29 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 80 points, T:514, killed by an electric shock 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1549 (0:08:59) 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) murdered her faithful large spider, on T:1572 (0:09:25) 21:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4837 21:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1662 (0:10:01) 21:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 1897 points, T:1711, killed by a hill orc 21:40 -!- terrapin has joined #hardfought 21:41 & a major demon (peaceful sandestin) [seen: telepathy] 21:42 huh.™ 21:42 @?sandestin 21:42 sandestin (&) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 12 | Res: petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 60 | Gen: gehennom | AC: 4 | Atk: 2d6 weapon physical, 2d6 weapon physical | Align: -5 | nopoly, stalker, infravis 21:42 @u?sandestin 21:42 sandestin (&) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 12 | Res: petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 60 | Gen: sheol gehennom | AC: 4 | Atk: 2d6 weapon physical, 2d6 weapon physical | Align: -5 | nopoly, stalker, infravis 21:42 I didn't even think they could generate as peaceful 21:42 <@Loggers_VIII> yeah for chaotics they can 21:43 which is the case 21:43 just never occurred to me to check 21:43 <@Loggers_VIII> which is why sometimes chaotic chars see peaceful shapeshifters in gh 21:43 as & they can probably spawn asleep too? :S 21:43 <@Loggers_VIII> yeah you don’t see their true form much 21:43 and by that point you're trained to assume chameleon or doppleganger 21:43 they might have been the last vanilla monster i found out about 21:44 I've been wearing PFSC this whole time so seeing one isn't as surprising as seeing it peaceful 21:44 anyone know off hand the unicode symbol unnethack uses for web? 21:44 " 21:44 yoo nee cow duh 21:44 * Umbire shrugs 21:44 it looks like a little web :) 21:46 [hdf-us] [fh] cpittman (Sam Hum Mal Law), 80132 points, T:26760, killed by a minotaur 21:47 !lastgae 21:47 !lastgame 21:47 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Uncleleo/unnethack/dumplog/1689866662.un.txt.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/c/cpittman/fiqhack/dumplog/2023-07-21%2001%3A46%3A51%2C%20cpittman-Sam-Hum-Mal-Law%2C%20died.txt :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/dynahack/dumplog/2023-07-21%2000_38_37%2C%20Ken-Con-Orc-Mal-Cha%2C%20died.txt 21:47 is it 🕸 ? 21:47 U+1F578 21:47 close, but that looks cool, too. 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] stagnate (Tou Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon (runed dagger) for the first time, on T:3042 21:49 -!- terrapin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50 -!- terrapin has joined #hardfought 21:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a jackal corpse on an altar, on T:6878 21:58 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 21:59 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 60 points, T:148, killed by an orcish dagger 21:59 !rng nethack sleep 21:59 nabru: nethack 22:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Demonbane by Thoth, on T:7621 22:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:404 22:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1524 (0:07:31) 22:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible efot's ghost, the former Rhizotomist, on T:1296 22:11 !lastgame efot 22:11 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/efot/nh13d/dumplog/1689808659.nh13d.txt 22:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:1991 22:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) averted death (killed by Juiblex), on T:2958 22:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 4067 points, T:2960, poisoned by Juiblex 22:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Pri Hum Mal Neu) the Oracle has been killed, on T:8829 22:17 I... I thought same-race sacrifice would give me a peaceful Juiblex 22:17 anyway, those bones will be brutal 22:19 !lastgame nabru 22:19 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1683120838.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/xnethack/dumplog/1689904813.xnh.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-08-11%2011%3A15%3A06%2C%20Testin%27-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 22:19 Vanquished creatures: 22:19 "You surprise Juiblex!" 22:19 254 shopkeepers 22:19 WTF? 22:19 it appears you spooked him 22:20 ah, apparently so 22:20 and he took it upon himself to stop you one short of your dream of total shopkeeper genocide 22:20 hahahaha 22:20 (couldn't tell you what's going on with that really) 22:20 aosdict, see above 22:21 Juiblex, the anti-hero 22:31 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Dro Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "hgfgfjfhjhf", on T:4049 (0:31:59) 22:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] stagnate (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5351 22:37 one of the Juiblexes is peaceful 22:39 So it is 22:42 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:9588 (1:47:14) 22:45 -!- misha is now known as mu 22:51 -!- viryanah has joined #hardfought 22:53 <@nabrurocks> !ping 22:53 @nabrurocks: Pong! 22:58 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 23:02 [hdf-us] [gnoll] arnibald (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 61000 points, T:23610, died of an illness contracted by Jubilex 23:16 [hdf-us] [fh] cpittman (Val Hum Fem Law) received advice from The Oracle, on T:4362 23:18 There's a strategy where you petrify someone, then cast stone to flesh on them and petrify them again. Apparently it counts as a kill each time. 23:19 Juiblex is one of the few creatures this doesn't work on. 23:19 If you really want to kill Croesus 255 times. 23:20 I would probably be satisfied by killing him once. :3 23:20 [hdf-au] [hackm] Orcranger (Tou Hob Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15509 (8:52:09) 23:22 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:44 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 415 points, T:767, poisoned by a rotted dwarf corpse, while reading a book 23:47 just killed 17 hostile gremlins or so with one scroll 23:48 stupid ass nalfeshnee 23:49 -!- UnFortuneCookie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:55 lmao I have double digit EW scrolls 23:56 I did need to push my silver spear to +7 but that's way more than I'll ever need 23:56 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Nec Hum Fem Cha), 3729 points, T:2330, killed by a baby orange dragon