00:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jack (Mad Orc Mal Cha), 2546 points, T:3265, quit 00:05 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law) had a steel long sword entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:18100 (1:57:09) 00:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1881 00:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:80726 (17:31:31) 00:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jack (Mad Orc Mal Cha), 224 points, T:240, killed by a sewer rat 00:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed +3 Fire Brand", on T:37614 (21:49:32) 00:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +3 Frost Brand", on T:37615 (21:49:53) 00:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3387 00:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby purple worm, on T:3444 00:24 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Val Dwa Nbn Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8145 00:28 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 16630 points, T:5607, killed by a chameleon imitating a leocrotta 00:37 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:26105 00:38 [hdf-us] [ndnh] technillogue (Ana Eth Fem Neu) killed Oona, on T:22432 00:38 -!- anselmus has joined #hardfought 00:42 Umbire++ thanks! 00:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (giant ants), on T:3355 00:44 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Val Dwa Nbn Law), 16742 points, T:10506, killed by a cave troll 00:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4172 00:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] elky (Val Dwa Fem Law) was bestowed with Mjollnir by Tyr, on T:7489 00:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided class G, on T:4752 00:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4547 points, T:5292, killed by a winter wolf cub, while frozen by a potion 01:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:83746 (18:24:30) 01:06 [hdf-au] [hackm] Orcranger (Rog Dop Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a soldier ant), on T:3502 (1:34:25) 01:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given the Shield of the Resolute Heart, on T:16243 01:08 [hdf-au] [hackm] Orcranger (Rog Dop Fem Cha), 4581 points, T:3502, poisoned by a soldier ant, while attempting to cheat Death 01:09 Go team a! 01:11 <@Loggers_VIII> !lastgame orcranger 01:11 @Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/O/Orcranger/hackem/dumplog/1688861625.hackem.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/O/Orcranger/hackem/dumplog/1689590248.hackem.html 01:13 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed platinum yendorian express card", got "a credit card named the Platinum Yendorian Express Card", on T:26912 01:13 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Arc Gno Nbn Law), 103 points, T:287, killed by a jackal 01:26 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5954 (0:39:44) 01:27 -!- docpi has joined #hardfought 01:27 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Pri Orc Nbn Cha), 468 points, T:1733, killed by a dwarf 01:27 [hdf-us] [un] funknut (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 61 points, T:149, killed by the wrath of Anhur 01:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given the Arkenstone, on T:18219 01:30 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:6445 (0:44:18) 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed rustproof +2 Mjollnir", got "a war hammer named Mjollnir", on T:12112 01:32 [hdf-us] [evil] shadowrider38 (Rog Orc Mal Cha) became literate by reading The Blacksmith's Cookbook, on T:6649 (0:45:41) 01:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed Orb of Fate", got "a glass orb named the Orb of Fate", on T:12116 01:32 [hdf-au] [hackm] Orcranger (Tou Dop Fem Neu), 574 points, T:1430, killed by a large mimic 01:36 [hdf-us] [nh343] docpi (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 4135 points, T:3832, poisoned by an orcish arrow 01:37 That was unfortunate, and I had a pet Lich, even. 01:38 -!- docpi has quit [Quit: putty] 01:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", got "a silver dragon scale mail", on T:12426 01:43 [hdf-eu] [un] Umbire (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered the Blackmarket, on T:23016 (22:57:40) 01:47 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 01:47 what are "shiny stones" in evilhack? just useless rocks? 01:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:19880 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:12535 01:49 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Dwa Mal Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:19643 (5:09:58) 01:49 [hdf-us] [un] funknut (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 90 points, T:458, killed by a goblin 01:54 eggandhull: sling bullets 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] kanto (Val Dwa Fem Law), 176 points, T:622, killed by a small mimic 01:55 aka metal pellets for slings or so 01:55 its a real thing 01:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Enchanter (level 14), on T:13055 01:59 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 181344 points, T:20952, killed by a maid called Persephone 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:13410 02:04 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 56156 points, T:13102, quit 02:06 -!- Sgeo has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:08 -!- hackemslashem has joined #hardfought 02:08 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hackemslashem] by ChanServ 02:08 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 248 points, T:701, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 02:22 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:22319 (5:42:57) 02:22 [hdf-us] [un] funknut (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 184 points, T:1303, poisoned by a rotted jackal corpse 02:23 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Pir Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:5447 02:24 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Pir Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Cutthroat, on T:5558 02:25 [hdf-us] [un] funknut (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:32, killed by a water moccasin 02:26 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 02:26 [hdf-us] [un] funknut (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) shouted "what does this do?", on T:17 02:27 -!- eggandhull has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 02:27 [hdf-us] [un] funknut (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) shouted "oh. neat.", on T:18 02:27 ^ 02:27 #shout test 02:27 hm 02:27 !shout hi 02:29 It's one way 02:29 Un has that so you can shout about something in game 02:29 [hdf-eu] [un] Umbire (Bar Orc Mal Cha) shouted "AND HOPEFULLY GET HELP BY MAIL", on T:24211 02:29 [hdf-us] [un] funknut (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) shouted "", on T:153 02:30 [hdf-us] [un] funknut (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) shouted "awesome", on T:153 02:30 [hdf-us] [un] funknut (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) shouted "how do i send mail?", on T:153 02:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found the Eye of the Aethiopica on the floor, on T:16430 02:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:16449 02:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:16452 02:36 this run refuses to be enjoyable 02:37 [hdf-au] [hackm] Orcranger (Tou Dop Mal Neu), 642 points, T:1829, poisoned by a gray fungus 02:39 mail is a standard vanilla thing, while watching someone's game you can press m to send mail 02:40 [hdf-au] [hackm] Orcranger (Tou Dop Fem Neu), 20 points, T:107, killed by a fox 02:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Magicbane by Thoth, on T:16857 02:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 2028 points, T:2026, killed by an ape 02:45 [hdf-us] [un] funknut (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 250 points, T:732, poisoned by a rotted kobold corpse 02:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:1008 02:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:17370 02:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] elky (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:10746 03:00 [hdf-eu] [un] Umbire (Bar Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:24530 (1 day, 0:15:00) 03:00 throne geno 03:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:17747 03:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:17868 03:09 [hdf-us] [un] funknut (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 224 points, T:893, killed by a goblin, while fainted from lack of food 03:15 [hdf-au] [hackm] Orcranger (Tou Dop Mal Neu), 1204 points, T:2344, killed by a hill orc 03:16 -!- Uncleleo has joined #hardfought 03:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:18712 03:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:18715 03:24 [hdf-eu] [un] Uncleleo (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1027 (0:06:04) 03:29 -!- Uncleleo has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3072 03:36 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Pir Elf Mal Cha), 4648 points, T:8635, killed by a zoo bat 03:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found Sunsword carried by a monster, on T:19836 03:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] funknut (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 318 points, T:1693, killed by a wand 04:07 -!- Arseniy has joined #hardfought 04:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", got "a greased bag", on T:22154 04:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:22266 04:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) found the Eye of the Aethiopica carried by a monster, on T:22266 04:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22267 04:31 -!- anselmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 5851 points, T:4766, killed by a sasquatch 04:59 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:32115 05:06 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:08 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided mind flayers, on T:32295 05:09 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:14 -!- Uncleleo has joined #hardfought 05:16 [hdf-eu] [un] Uncleleo (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1168 (0:08:05) 05:19 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Traveler (level 14), on T:25572 05:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:31695 05:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class m), on T:25636 05:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "holy +3 fixed grayswandir", got "a silver saber named Grayswandir", on T:25638 05:34 [hdf-eu] [un] Uncleleo (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Minetown, on T:1489 (0:26:42) 05:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed bag of holding", got "a bag", on T:32564 05:38 [hdf-eu] [un] Uncleleo (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:1798 (0:30:09) 06:06 [hdf-eu] [xnh] breadmaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) averted death (killed by an invisible stalker), on T:19148 06:07 [hdf-eu] [xnh] breadmaster (Sam Hum Fem Law) found the Tsurugi of Muramasa carried by a monster, on T:19156 06:08 [hdf-eu] [xnh] breadmaster (Sam Hum Fem Law), 108176 points, T:19160, killed by Ashikaga Takauji 06:15 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Set, on T:77982 (21:54:56) 06:17 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:66549 (2 days, 9:06:12) 06:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) Sipaliwini, the general store proprietrix, has been killed, on T:26244 06:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:34549 06:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:34550 06:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) Ouiatchouane, the general store proprietrix, has been killed, on T:26727 06:26 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 06:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) Asidonhopo, the general store proprietor, has been killed, on T:27079 06:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:27185 06:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) Matagami, the general store proprietrix, has been killed, on T:27199 06:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "greased bag of holding", got "a greased bag called oilskin", on T:27245 06:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1126 06:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 514 points, T:1242, killed by hallucinogen-distorted Banjoewangi; the shopkeeper 06:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:645 06:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 441 points, T:665, killed by a gnome, while praying 06:40 !PoM 06:40 APic: The moon is new for 3 more days. 06:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 398 points, T:859, killed by a gnome king 06:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) found the Platinum Yendorian Express Card on the floor, on T:28985 06:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed Gollum, on T:1962 (0:12:14) 06:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Master of Thieves, on T:29064 06:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29065 06:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:2101 06:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2752 (0:17:02) 06:56 [hdf-eu] [un] Uncleleo (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2978 points, T:4900, killed by a jaguar 06:57 -!- Uncleleo has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:01 [hdf-us] [dyn] asdfl (post163) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 116 points, T:127, killed by a giant rat 07:01 [hdf-us] [dyn] dal (post163) (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:02 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 07:02 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:4, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:02 [hdf-us] [fh] sdlf (post163) (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:03 [hdf-us] [nh4] adfl (post163) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 5588 points, T:129, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:03 -!- fadein has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:03 [hdf-us] [ace] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2657 points, T:17, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:30393 07:05 -!- fadein has joined #hardfought 07:05 [hdf-us] [slth] post163 (Nob Hum Fem Law), 185 points, T:460, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:06 [hdf-us] [slshm] post163 (Yeo Hob Mal Law), 85 points, T:83, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:06 [hdf-us] [ndnh] post163 (Nob Inc Mal Law), 0 points, T:28, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2826 points, T:3835, killed by a rothe 07:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Nob Inc Fem Neu), 50 points, T:53, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Fluttershy 07:08 [hdf-us] [gh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 187 points, T:147, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 105 points, T:205, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "marker", got "a magic marker", on T:30518 07:09 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:83, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided class L, on T:30520 07:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:30746 07:17 [hdf-eu] [xnh] breadmaster (Sam Hum Fem Law), 616 points, T:1273, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 07:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Nunnullus' ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:2105 07:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) destroyed Sioh's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4964 (0:42:41) 07:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2385 07:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) found Grimtooth on the floor, on T:31334 07:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 743 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:31344 07:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) Juiblex has been killed, on T:31575 07:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +2 mjollnir", got "a blessed war hammer named Mjollnir", on T:3106 07:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) found Demonbane carried by a monster, on T:3277 07:30 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Sorcerer (level 18), on T:34501 07:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming an earth elemental, on T:3953 07:40 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 10545 points, T:5080, killed by a soldier ant 07:40 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:41 [hdf-eu] [xnh] breadmaster (Sam Hum Fem Law), 976 points, T:1024, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 07:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:35703 07:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed fixed +2 robe", got "a blessed robe", on T:4704 08:02 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Und Hum Fem Law), 1810 points, T:2968, killed by a killer bee, while helpless 08:13 [hdf-us] [slshm] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, killed by kicking a wall 08:13 [hdf-us] [slshm] post163 (Yeo Elf Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, T:2, killed by a falling object 08:14 morning 08:15 Morning, K2. 08:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:9567 (1:36:38) 08:16 o/ 08:18 <@post163> morning K2 08:18 hiya 08:22 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Und Hum Fem Law), 2649 points, T:3263, killed by a displacer beast 08:25 [hdf-eu] [xnh] breadmaster (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1559 points, T:1342, killed by a gnome, while fainted from lack of food 08:29 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 24952 points, T:10693, killed by a gold golem, while reading a book 08:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "abc", on T:5568 08:36 [hdf-us] [fh] cpittman (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:17503 08:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:20000 08:43 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 08:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", got "a greased crystal helmet", on T:20052 08:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby purple worm, on T:6847 08:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 119 points, T:322, killed by a jackal 08:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Mal Law), 9831 points, T:8080, killed by an invisible stalker 09:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:20931 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:20933 09:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1134 points, T:2475, killed by a silver crossbow bolt 09:21 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Mon Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1474 09:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:20962 09:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] breadmaster (Val Hum Fem Law), 355 points, T:905, zombified by a kobold zombie 09:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:84326 (22:45:00) 09:34 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 09:35 hey stenno 09:36 hi 09:36 Hello stenno, Welcome to #hardfought 09:36 stenno: Message from K2 at 2023-07-17 10:53 EDT: scummed games not breaking streaks is fixed (beholder bot) 09:36 w00t 09:36 :P 09:36 nice, thanks! 09:36 Tangles fixed it 09:36 !streak 09:36 stenno: [hdf-eu] stenno Max[nh370]: 5 (2020-12-06 - 2020-12-11). Current[nh370]: 2 (since 2023-06-03). 09:36 great, thanks Tangles ! 09:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2386 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nunnullus (Rog Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1796 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class D, on T:21411 09:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:85023 (22:58:26) 09:53 suddenly i am a noob 2-streaker again 09:53 as it should be 09:53 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:21680 09:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:21686 09:56 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1864 points, T:1779, killed by a rope golem 09:58 !streak 09:58 K2: [hdf-us] K2 Max[xnh]: 4 (2018-03-30 - 2018-04-15). Current[gh]: 1 (since 2022-06-20). 09:58 \o/ 09:59 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:22366 10:02 streak the field 10:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nunnullus (Rog Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:2856 10:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 104 points, T:650, killed by a small mimic 10:04 <@post163> !streak 10:04 @post163: No streaks for @post163. 10:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (giant ants), on T:300 10:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "abc", on T:4563 10:13 !steak 10:13 !streak 10:13 nabru: No streaks for nabru. 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:23603 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Plane of Earth, on T:23603 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:23604 10:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2413 10:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1952 points, T:2577, killed by a jaguar, while praying 10:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 34 points, T:144, killed by an invisible master lich 10:30 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Und Hum Mal Law), 1269 points, T:2421, killed by a bat, while helpless 10:31 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:33 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 809 points, T:1248, killed by a bugbear 10:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Mal Law), 8690 points, T:7114, killed by a death ray 10:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Orcrist by Huan Ti, on T:2538 10:48 <@post163> !asc 10:48 @post163: No games for @post163. 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:29072 10:49 [hdf-us] [slshm] post163 (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:30, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:55 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1117 10:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 6288 points, T:3309, killed by a death ray 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1359 points, T:1203, killed by a dwarf 10:56 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 11:02 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby silver dragon 11:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:163, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:04 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 182 points, T:73, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1 11:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 52 points, T:123, killed by a goblin 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) used a forge to create The Sword of Annihilation, on T:38218 (22:17:28) 11:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3039 11:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a silver spherical amulet on an altar, on T:3156 11:09 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1120 (0:03:59) 11:10 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 582 points, T:1188, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Enchanter (level 14), on T:30070 11:14 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 11:15 [hdf-eu] [hackm] Uncleleo (Rog Gno Mal Cha), 199 points, T:334, killed by a killer bee 11:17 [hdf-eu] [hackm] Uncleleo (Pri Dop Mal Cha), 4 points, T:84, poisoned by a rotted orc corpse 11:18 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1844 points, T:3363, killed by a killer bee, while praying 11:27 [hdf-eu] [ace] Uncleleo (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 23945 points, T:1390, killed by falling downstairs 11:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, shot himself with a death ray 11:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:30348 11:59 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:86478 (23:24:00) 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nunnullus (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5787 12:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Plane of Air, on T:23682 12:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with The Apple of Discord by Huan Ti, on T:1311 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4023 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class v, on T:23720 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:30934 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 871 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:32029 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (master liches), on T:31100 12:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Orcrist by Huan Ti, on T:1628 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:32662 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:32663 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Plane of Fire, on T:23889 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Plane of Water, on T:23908 12:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3720 points, T:4269, killed by a soldier ant 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:29384 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:31657 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was bestowed with spellbook of finger of death, on T:31657 12:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:33170 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:23989 12:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] Gouhan (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1129 points, T:1943, killed by a pony 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6736 12:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Death, on T:24010 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law), 9172 points, T:7093, killed by a soldier ant 12:42 [hdf-us] [gnoll] arnibald (Bar Gnl Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1011 (0:16:30) 12:45 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Xanathar, on T:47718 (19:28:59) 12:45 -!- anselmus has joined #hardfought 12:46 [hdf-us] [gnoll] arnibald (Bar Gnl Fem Cha), 7000 points, T:1137, killed by a dwarf 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Death (2nd time), on T:24041 12:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:89334 (1 day, 0:14:51) 12:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by the touch of death inflicted by Death), on T:24083 12:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 53 points, T:50, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1 12:59 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:84588 (18:41:27) 13:00 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:89854 (1 day, 0:25:02) 13:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 968509 points, T:24104, killed by an Angel of Moloch (with the Amulet) 13:02 [hdf-us] [gnoll] arnibald (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1376 (0:15:30) 13:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:84803 (18:47:00) 13:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] arrow (Ran Hum Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 arrows on an altar, on T:4133 13:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Uncleleo (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 181 points, T:883, killed by a large kobold 13:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Uncleleo (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 21 points, T:519, killed by a fox 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 20 points, T:1, caught herself in her own fireball 13:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Uncleleo (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 40 points, T:33, killed by a falling rock 13:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Uncleleo (Tou Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:432 13:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (orcs), on T:1 13:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 13:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 (0:00:04) 13:37 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Vlad's tower, on T:43644 (9:52:10) 13:44 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 13:47 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:44230 13:51 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Mon Dwa Mal Law) was sent a couatl by Shan Lai Ching, on T:5397 13:51 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 13:53 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:44618 13:53 -!- terrapin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:53 -!- terrapin has joined #hardfought 13:54 !lastgame WizzyTheWeird 13:54 Noisytoot: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/W/WizzyTheWeird/nethack/dumplog/1689599914.nh.html 13:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Uncleleo (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 890 points, T:2529, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 13:56 [hdf-us] [slth] GemOfWonder (Und Hum Fem Law), 4137 points, T:3725, killed by a snake, while praying unsuccessfully 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:32986 13:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 191 points, T:209, killed by a boiling potion 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Celefoombor (Ran Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1529 14:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 894 points, T:967, killed by a piranha 14:02 87 hp and -7 ac is for soko not astral 14:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 40 points, T:1, caught herself in her own ball of lightning 14:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Uncleleo (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 86 points, T:397, killed by a goblin 14:08 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2758 (0:29:19) 14:09 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 3137 points, T:2878, killed by a bolt of fire 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "marker", got "a magic marker", on T:34876 14:11 tbh I'm impressed they made Astral at all and I've lit. seen people ascend with less 14:12 (granted in that case the runner was also uber-cracked) 14:12 [hdf-eu] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 84 points, T:429, killed by Mr. Inuvik; the shopkeeper 14:12 less AC* 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:34914 14:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:34919 14:13 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2240 (0:22:02) 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:34989 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:35175 14:18 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:35289 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:35290 14:19 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:37204 14:19 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found the Eye of the Aethiopica carried by a monster, on T:37204 14:20 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37208 14:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Uncleleo (Tou Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Mjollnir by The Lady, on T:2332 14:21 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2603 (0:27:07) 14:21 yeah but it's usually in conjunction with conflict or something else 14:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] arrow (Ran Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7741 14:22 this guy even swapped out +3 speed boots for +0 jumping 14:22 not sure what you'd expect except to get shredded 14:22 probably to do the haste self spam thing 14:23 they do have that habit of not thinking things through fully just looking off recent deaths 14:23 but points for even trying and getting that close tbh 14:23 if theyd polyd theyd have had it 14:24 poly wands dead but some charge left in a marker 14:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Celefoombor (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 2494 points, T:3109, killed by a bolt of fire zapped by a hill orc 14:24 guessing they spent a lot of time polyd and thats how they made it that far 14:25 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Orc Nbn Cha), 0 points, T:1, shot themself with a death ray 14:25 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 313913 points, T:46207, poisoned by Demogorgon 14:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:19, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 50 points, T:228, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:26 in any case best of luck finally crossing the finish line 14:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) Hradec Kralove, the liquor emporium proprietor, has been killed, on T:34979 14:26 oh damn Muad... 14:27 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 122 points, T:320, killed by a serval 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) Kinojevis, the general store proprietrix, has been killed, on T:35153 14:28 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Elf Mal Cha), 11 points, T:163, slipped while mounting a saddled baby gold dragon 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (orcs), on T:1 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) Schuls, the liquor emporium proprietor, has been killed, on T:35233 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) Aklavik, the general store proprietrix, has been killed, on T:35334 14:30 oh6 killing all the shks 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) Maganasipi, the general store proprietrix, has been killed, on T:35401 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) Izchak, the lighting store proprietor, has been killed, on T:35432 14:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1688 points, T:2542, killed by a dwarf 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) Tipor, the delicatessen proprietrix, has been killed, on T:35464 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) Htargcm, the hardware store proprietor, has been killed, on T:35486 14:32 <@post163> !whereis oh6 14:32 @post163: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh370]: (Xxx Xxx Mal Neu) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: -1 14:34 proprietrix (plural proprietrixes or proprietrices) 14:34 (dated) A female proprietor. 14:34 today I learned a new word! 14:34 K2: ^ 14:34 i think level !whois is broken here 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:36083 14:34 !whois NetSysFire 14:35 !whereis NetSysFire 14:35 NetSysFire: [hdf-eu] NetSysFire [ndnh]: No details available 14:35 i think everything broke 14:35 !who 14:35 K2: [hdf-eu] Uncleleo [nh370] nmlkj [nh370] xororand [nh370] NetSysFire [ndnh] :: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh370] Skillfulhacks [nh370] Bartlem [nh370] post163 [nh370] bismatum [un] krm26 [evil] eggandhull [evil] :: [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh370] 14:36 !whereis krm26 14:36 K2: [hdf-us] krm26 [evil]: (Bar Hum Fem Cha) T:92599 Gehennom level: 26 14:36 !whereis xoroand 14:36 K2: xoroand is not playing. 14:36 !who 14:36 K2: [hdf-eu] Uncleleo [nh370] nmlkj [nh370] xororand [nh370] :: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh370] Skillfulhacks [nh370] Bartlem [nh370] post163 [nh370] bismatum [un] krm26 [evil] eggandhull [evil] :: [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh370] 14:36 !whereis xororand 14:36 K2: [hdf-eu] xororand [nh370]: (Pri Hum Mal Neu) T:13389 The Dungeons of Doom level: 9 14:36 !whereis post163 14:36 Noisytoot: [hdf-us] post163 [nh370]: (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 14:36 !whereis oh6 14:36 NetSysFire: [hdf-us] oh6 [nh370]: (Xxx Xxx Mal Neu) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: -1 14:37 huh weird 14:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful housecat, on T:13781 14:37 !whereis Grasshopper 14:37 K2: [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh370]: (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) T:37357 The Quest level: 13 14:37 maybe oh6 is playing on an older version that got updated in the meantime? 14:38 bot can handle older versions 14:38 Demo does ndnh even have whereis? 14:38 !whereis Noisytoot 14:38 Noisytoot: [hdf-eu] Noisytoot [ndnh]: (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Cha) T:27264 The Quest level: 21 14:38 evidently 14:38 !whereis nabru 14:38 nabru: [hdf-us] nabru [ndnh]: (Bar Hlf Fem Cha) T:52 The Dungeons of Doom level: 2 14:38 it does 14:39 maybe it just hates you NetSysFire 14:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful large dog, on T:14229 14:39 evidently 14:39 <@post163> !whereis post163 14:39 @post163: [hdf-eu] post163 [ndnh]: No details available :: [hdf-us] post163 [nh370]: (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 14:39 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] post163 (Nob Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, killed by kicking a wall 14:39 yeah thats too soon 14:39 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] post163 (Nob Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:39 whereis file isnt written out on every turn 14:39 <@post163> !whereis post163 14:39 @post163: [hdf-eu] post163 [ndnh]: No details available :: [hdf-us] post163 [nh370]: (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 14:39 its typically every 50 turns or so 14:40 it ought to have it 14:40 it does except for NetSysFire 14:40 she pissed it off somehow 14:40 <@post163> !whereis post163 14:40 @post163: [hdf-eu] post163 [ndnh]: No details available :: [hdf-us] post163 [nh370]: (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) T:1 The Dungeons of Doom level: 1 14:40 prob didnt add grease or something 14:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 526 points, T:2759, killed by Mr. Chicoutimi; the shopkeeper 14:40 !whereis NetSysFire 14:40 NetSysFire: [hdf-eu] NetSysFire [ndnh]: (Acu Inc Fem Law) T:218 The Dungeons of Doom level: 2 14:41 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] post163 (Nob Dro Fem Cha), 0 points, T:39, slipped while mounting a saddled giant spider 14:41 the only prob i see is whith oh6's game 14:41 i think its not set on game start? 14:41 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] post163 (Nob Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:41 well glad to have pointed to it 14:45 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.5-dev] 14:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:573 (0:02:15) 14:52 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 14:52 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:37348 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Earth, on T:37348 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 14:59 gl hacks 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Air, on T:37429 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Fire, on T:37483 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Magicbane by Anhur, on T:1998 15:03 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased +3 dragonhide t-shirt of esp", on T:93600 (1 day, 2:28:12) 15:04 krm26: i approve of your greasing 15:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:22083 15:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 1834 points, T:2285, killed by a vrock of Susanowo 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:37615 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) found the Eye of the Aethiopica carried by a monster, on T:37615 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:37616 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) found Sunsword carried by a monster, on T:37626 15:10 8 piece bucket for $10 at kfc! 15:10 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased +3 dragonhide helm of speed", on T:93691 (1 day, 2:34:20) 15:11 [hdf-eu] [un] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 15:12 its probably all the bad pieces 15:12 that nobody wanted and are left over 15:12 like the thighs. i hate chicken thighs. bad. and the feet. i hate chicken feet. bad. 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1613 points, T:3619, killed by a snake 15:14 it was actually surprisingly good but some of the pieces were really small where i couldn't even tell if it was a thigh or wing 15:16 it was probably beaks and feathers 15:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a master mind flayer, on T:37673 15:18 there is now actually a reason to wish for everything greased in evilhack (theft prevention) 15:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:25176 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Water, on T:37727 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:86716 (19:17:32) 15:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:86718 (19:17:37) 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2270 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) found Trollsbane on the floor, on T:38851 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:38875 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:38881 15:35 I still think wearing greased gloves or wielding a greased weapon should give you greasy fingers. 15:42 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Annam, on T:50237 (20:26:25) 15:42 Big cloud of smelly smoke come out of his body 15:43 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:50238 (20:27:40) 15:43 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:88580 (19:38:35) 15:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) stole 240 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Budereyri's general store, on T:27638 15:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed Budereyri, the general store proprietor, on T:27666 15:46 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:38137 15:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had a pair of steel kicking boots entrusted to her by Set, on T:94525 (1 day, 3:00:15) 15:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) made her first artifact wish - "blessed greased fixed master key of thievery", on T:94762 (1 day, 3:05:13) 15:53 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Cav Hum Mal Neu) completed his quest without incident, on T:50498 (20:37:56) 15:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 155423 points, T:29737, killed by a water troll 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:37746 15:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "+3 holy silver saber", got "a silver saber", on T:37752 15:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:58 oh that's cute, quest livelogging is just broken apparently 15:58 anyway sleep wand + tag team >>>> 16:00 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the giant high priestess of Moloch, on T:88866 (19:47:39) 16:00 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:88869 (19:47:47) 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:37982 16:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:37999 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) the high priest has been killed (2nd time), on T:38011 16:06 -!- Arseniy has joined #hardfought 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence (2nd time), on T:38036 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 935832 points, T:38044, unwisely ate the brain of Famine (with the Amulet) 16:07 :o 16:07 !lastgame 16:07 Noisytoot: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xororand/nethack/dumplog/1689670802.nh.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Skillfulhacks/nethack/dumplog/1689615016.nh.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/O/Orcranger/hackem/dumplog/1689662480.hackem.html 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Lucifer, on T:88982 (19:55:01) 16:08 i actually caught the last 15 seconds of that 16:08 classic blunder 16:08 seen a speedrun lost to exactly that 16:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) entered Purgatory, on T:89017 (19:57:55) 16:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:89021 (19:58:04) 16:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:12 he already saw famine with telepathy but charged in anyway 16:16 and forgot to swap flying for life saving 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 4791 points, T:5005, killed by a bolt of cold 16:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:21 i cant recall ever seeing that death message 16:21 or if i have it woulda been a long time ago 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Trt Mal Neu) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 (0:00:03) 16:21 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Trt Mal Neu), 40 points, T:1, caught himself in his own ball of lightning 16:21 I think most players who can reach that point in the game are aware that that death condition exists 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1 16:22 I'm therefore not sure whether it's more likely to happen by accident or as a unique-deaths attempt (and most unique deaths are much faster to get than that one) 16:22 granted by the time you're even in a position to find out the hard way you're usually not of a mind to waste time 16:22 It's usually an accident I feel like 16:23 if its for a unique death, +1000000 style points 16:23 I can easily imagine it as a polyself accident 16:23 like the vampire/cockatrice interaction, which is probably better known 16:23 ^ 16:23 imagine more people are aware of "eating riders bad" than that it also includes specifically "eating rider brain bad" 16:23 very few people attempt Astral polymorphed 16:24 tangentially it's also very funny to imagine this horrorterror eldritch humanoid from time and space well beyond us not being able to handle the brain of a biblical entity 16:24 must be some Shit in that cranial fluid 16:26 YANI: I just had a conduct idea, permaconflict, implemented similarly to permablind/permahallu 16:26 I had a trapper once, about lv44 or something. Anyways, whatever level he was, he attacked riders 16:26 I think it would probably make the game easier? but some aspects of the game would become very difficult 16:26 and then he would die 16:26 engulfing/eating riders = bad idea 16:26 oh yeah, is 3.7 trapper engulf still flavored as digestion? 16:27 because I recall it tries to hydraulic press you nowp 16:27 dunnop, but leveling up trappers has been nerfed 16:27 yeah, old-ish news 16:27 and I'm asking for purposes of instadeath by Rider 16:28 yeah, don't eat them 16:28 I know lmao 16:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3089 16:29 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:89911 (20:16:35) 16:29 being more specific, if a trapper's crushing engulf isn't flavored as digestion, I'm pondering if it would be "safe" for one to engulf a Rider this way, or if it just does not matter for that interaction 16:30 now I'm wondering what happens if a vortex engulfs a Rider 16:30 I'm assuming it just takes damage (if it's vulnerable to the vortex's damage type) and gets expelled 16:30 yeah, since those don't digest 16:31 so... how to level up a trapper to digest riders? 16:31 if you have death inside of you it ought to make you die if you aren't death resistant (vortices and elementals arent alive so they shouldnt be vulnerable) 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided giant eels, on T:90010 (20:19:00) 16:31 or not digest them 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided electric eels, on T:90010 (20:19:05) 16:31 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided krakens, on T:90011 (20:19:08) 16:32 Demo: that's one of those sentences which would be great out of context, not for the usual reason that it sounds like you're doing horrific, but because it sounds so obvious 16:33 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/8d60b924076274a1f7018ec42a61f95a89252171/src/uhitm.c#L4235 16:33 Demo, already the case 16:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 6046 points, T:3601, killed by a gargoyle 16:35 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/169258d608b2770194dbe83aac7ce09b7701f748 there's the commit 16:35 [hdf-us] [spl] GemOfWonder (Pir Mer Fem Neu) attained the rank of Cutthroat, on T:3404 16:36 enfolding =/= digesting so t wouldn't instadie to trying to enfold a Rider 16:36 (at least not in the same sense as digesting) 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law), 943 points, T:1979, killed by a dagger 16:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Cha) killed Father Dagon, on T:53127 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 20 points, T:1, caught herself in her own ball of lightning 16:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:39 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Wiz Vam Fem Neu), 56 points, T:95, killed by an arrow 16:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:90263 (20:27:19) 16:40 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Black Horse, on T:90269 (20:27:36) 16:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) murdered her faithful air elemental, on T:90293 (20:28:29) 16:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:90315 (20:29:08) 16:41 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:90317 (20:29:16) 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law), 802 points, T:593, killed by a bugbear 16:43 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 7857025 points, T:90332, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1689221765.evil.html 16:43 gg bouquet 16:44 alright, recipe for FH this Un game is restore ability + sleeping (black + emerald) 16:44 save those in the future 16:44 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law), 297 points, T:656, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Hoity-Toity 16:49 <@post163> !lastgame 16:49 @post163: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/x/xororand/nethack/dumplog/1689670802.nh.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1689712969.nh.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/O/Orcranger/hackem/dumplog/1689662480.hackem.html 16:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 172 points, T:322, killed by a grid bug 16:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1164 points, T:1032, killed by an invisible plains centaur 16:57 !lastgame nabru 16:57 nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/evilhack/dumplog/1683120838.evil.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1689713235.nh.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-08-11%2011%3A15%3A06%2C%20Testin%27-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 16:57 Final resting place for 16:57 you, killed by an invisible plains centaur, 16:57 nabru-Kni-Hum-Fem-Law, killed by a bugbear, 16:57 Nunnullus-Rog-Hum-Mal-Cha, killed by a wand.yy 16:57 yep, those will be rough bones 16:58 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 16:58 illithid priestess called Uthilith the Priestess, wearing full armor, wi 16:58 going to be fun.. 17:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law), 33 points, T:72, killed by a grid bug, while frozen by a potion 17:02 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Hob Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:6, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Hea Gno Mal Neu) was bestowed with Vorpal Blade by Hermes, on T:7725 17:03 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 158 points, T:119, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 61 points, T:44, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2 points, T:12, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:04 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:15, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] eggandhull (Sam Dwa Mal Law) had a pair of low boots entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:26498 (6:49:48) 17:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1994 17:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1056 points, T:2023, killed by a dagger 17:14 has anyone found my bones level with 100 & yet? 17:15 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Wiz Dop Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 17:15 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:32, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:15 <@Loggers_VIII> bouquet yeah dbanethacker did 17:16 <@Loggers_VIII> also grats on your asc! 17:16 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Nbn Law), 118 points, T:374, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:17 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Cha) averted death, on T:54052 17:17 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Nbn Neu), 0 points, T:141, slipped while mounting a saddled baby black dragon 17:19 poor dbanethack :( 17:23 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 514 points, T:1469, killed by a land mine 17:23 aha! https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/dbanethacker/evilhack/dumplog/1689005304.evil.html 17:24 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Mal Cha), 124 points, T:343, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 71 points, T:466, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 17:26 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 50 points, T:36, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:43277 17:27 So now it's a double bones? 17:28 Did anyone find dbanethacker's bones from that? 17:28 I hope it failed to generate a bones level 17:28 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:33 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #hardfought 17:33 !pom 17:33 nabru: The moon is new for 3 more days. 17:33 <@Loggers_VIII> I hope it generated one because that is a lot of loot baby 17:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:1418 17:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1426 17:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:1434 17:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 8270 points, T:1566, killed by a killer bee 17:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Nunnullus' ghost, the former Rogue, on T:1588 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 894 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:44156 17:39 -!- petra_the_kat has joined #hardfought 17:47 <@cpittman> FIQHack: Now with zombie green slime 😄 17:48 -!- Smithgift has joined #hardfought 17:51 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:53 Looking for some advice. I'm playing UnNetHack and had almost finished Sokoban when a shrieker summoned... an arch-lich. Needless to say I got out of there as soon as I could, but now I have no way of accessing whatever the Sokoban reward is. Of all things, though, I had a scroll of genocide at generation and still have it, and it would not be too 17:53 difficult to get it blessed. Is it worth it to use it on arch-liches just for the Sokoban reward? 17:53 I do have two unidentified bags, so it's possible that I already have a bag of holding. 17:54 <@post163> !who 17:54 @post163: [hdf-eu] galadriel [nh370] Umbire [un] :: [hdf-us] petrakat [nh370] oh6 [nh370] Smithgift [un] cpittman [fh] arrow [xnh] post163 [spl] :: [hdf-au] No current players 17:54 That arch-lich is probably a shapeshifter, but even that's enough to get you killed 17:55 The main important thing is that you know what an uncursed scroll of geno does 17:55 which, idk if you do 17:55 IIRC on UnNetHack a uncursed just kills a specific kind temporarily? 17:55 Not temporarily, no 17:55 Kills all monsters of the species on the current level 17:56 which, that's more than enough for this emergency 17:56 [hdf-eu] [un] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 17:56 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, killed by kicking a wall 17:58 I'm actually no longer in Sokoban (lost a ton of armor due to nymphs/other shenanigans) Is it worth it to come back (after getting armor) and genocide the shapeshifter? 17:58 I mean yeah, unambiguously 17:58 OK. 17:58 !whereis Smithgift 17:58 Umbire: [hdf-us] Smithgift [un]: (Monk human Fem lawful) T:9539 The Dungeons of Doom level: 7 17:58 Ah, you're a monk, hurting more for armor than most 17:59 ...that's a weird output though 17:59 I'm down (up?) to 8 AC. 17:59 nudge K2 about that 17:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 785 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:45590 17:59 If it was any other role you could probably grab some replacements from Mines - as it is 17:59 you probably still could, just no body armor 18:00 is the armor like Gone gone or just need some nymphs killed to recover it 18:00 I think the robe burned up but the gloves were stolen by nymphs. 18:00 Hold up, they were already on me. >.> 18:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:01 Oh. 18:01 Hi Giantslayer 18:01 That's hilarious if nothing else 18:02 [hdf-eu] [spl] post163 (Wiz Mer Nbn Neu), 354 points, T:1164, killed by a giant fly 18:02 [hdf-eu] [un] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:311, killed by a grid bug 18:03 [hdf-eu] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:2, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:03 Does single-level genocide affect generation and does it break genocideless conduct? 18:04 -!- petra_the_kat has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:04 my inclination is yes to latter, no to former since it's current level only and only at time of reading 18:06 Smithgift, so do you only have like, shoes left? 18:06 Or just protection or something 18:06 Shoes and gloves. 18:06 I went back to the mines for a cloak, but it turns out cloaks don't really add to AC? 18:09 Here we go! 18:10 Dwarvish cloaks don't. 18:10 [hdf-us] [un] Smithgift (Mon Hum Fem Law) genocided arch-liches on a level in Sokoban, on T:10463 (2:19:19) 18:12 [hdf-us] [un] Smithgift (Mon Hum Fem Law), 16082 points, T:10517, killed by a carnivorous ape 18:12 Oh well. 18:12 Thanks for the advice,anyway! 18:13 And no, it seems that normal-genociding in nnnethack doesn't break the conduct. 18:13 they're worth $25 so if you're tight on money they're good to collect on the way to minetown. 18:13 Yeah, you probably could've put that off a while longer until you got your AC back together 18:13 Live and learn, or perhaps more accurately die and learn. 18:13 or not tried to fist fight an ape 18:13 Next time in any case 18:15 -!- Smithgift has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:18 !lastgame 18:18 Noisytoot: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/unnethack/dumplog/1689717779.un.txt.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Smithgift/unnethack/dumplog/1688602600.un.txt.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/O/Orcranger/hackem/dumplog/1689662480.hackem.html 18:23 Fort-hunting time 18:29 <@cpittman> Good luck. I found the fort early and thought I could take it on with just magic resistance. Things were going great until two shimmering dragons kept breathing on me. I'd cure the stunning and then the other would breathe on me 18:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 233 points, T:523, killed by a gas cloud 18:33 [hdf-eu] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:34 I'm at -20 with MR reflection and QA 18:34 +should be fine 18:39 honestly my only real concern is lack of lizard corpse 18:40 well there's my old shambling horror pet 18:40 still... not attacking me? 18:40 Is it a good horror to have as a pet? 18:41 no see, it's a whole Thingit literally spawned before 18:41 meant to line break... 18:41 but yeah, I polytrapped a pet into one before I'd ever seen any 18:41 do you know what attacks it has? 18:41 so it just had no attacks and 0 AC (as in base 0) 18:41 if you'll let me finish lmao 18:42 and none've spawned between me losing it to a levelported and killing the turned-hostile horror just now 18:42 so still up in the air what's going on with that 18:43 I'm surprised they're not nopoly 18:44 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:48 The blast of lightning hits you! Your ring of invisibility named The One Ring turns to dust and vanishes! There is a magic beam trap here. 18:48 wth 18:48 news to me coming from vanilla.. 18:49 [hdf-eu] [un] Umbire (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Fort Ludios, on T:28291 (1 day, 4:43:12) 18:50 which is why you wanna read up where you can first, ideally 18:50 but then you want to be cautious about traps in general 18:50 just in Evil there's new kinda nasty ones 18:51 random wand booby traps? 18:52 not wands, beams 18:52 does it include disintegration or death? 18:52 though they select from wands effects 18:52 (thankfully as opposed to like dragonbreath) 18:52 and I think death is specifically excluded 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Smithgift (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 328 points, T:473, killed by a giant mimic 18:52 should have airquotes around "select" 18:55 [hdf-eu] [hackm] UristMcRaven (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 84 points, T:119, killed by a rabbit 18:56 The yellow dragon digests you! 18:56 What to do...? 18:57 33 of 120 hp 18:57 No wand of digging? 18:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Sting by Huan Ti, on T:2848 18:57 zap sleep and kill? has a pick axe 18:57 has expensive camera 18:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Smithgift (Val Dwa Fem Law), 158 points, T:626, killed by a small mimic 18:57 You want to get out of the dragon first 18:58 because acid passive is gonna waste you unless you have non-melee and you're close to digestion also 18:58 hmm 18:58 pls send help 18:58 Do you have a wand of digging? 18:59 also I forget if teleporting yourself specifically would work 18:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] vor (Brd Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7062 19:00 i don't have a wand of digging. just zapped a wand of tele at < and i got tele with the dragon 19:00 -!- petra_the_kat has joined #hardfought 19:00 [hdf-eu] [hackm] UristMcRaven (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 227 points, T:503, killed by a rabbit 19:01 should've made the "wait until I can confirm if that happens" implication much clearer 19:01 oh that's before I asked lol 19:01 ah 19:01 also it's at [.] and not < for that to work (and even then I don't think that does what we need here) 19:01 <@cpittman> wtf, dragons can eat you? 19:01 Yes 19:02 <@cpittman> You need that Immovable Rod. Better than Dragonbane 19:02 Dragonbane is also very good in evil 19:02 IIRC to escape engulfing with teleport, you need to zap them if on a no-teleport level and yourself if on a teleport-allowed level 19:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3543 19:02 ^ 19:02 the other way round doesn't work in either case 19:02 also, plenty of variants improve dragons in some way to make them more interesting/formidable enemies 19:02 this is Evil's method 19:02 but I don't know whether it's the same in Evil 19:03 <@shadow_rider> i don’t think it works the same way 19:03 <@shadow_rider> unless i confuse variants 19:03 <@shadow_rider> which i do often 19:03 Hmm, so zap tele at self (.) is my best bet? 19:04 eggandhull: it would work in vanilla; I am not sure about Evil 19:04 I don't think that much is changed in Evil 19:04 works same way in evilhack 19:04 <@cpittman> Wonder what would happen if you just broke the wand. Teleport you both? 19:04 ok here we go 19:05 <@shadow_rider> does teleporting engulfed monster work k2? 19:05 <@shadow_rider> *engulfing 19:05 ok i'm out! but D is next to me now 19:05 @cpittman: my immediate reaction is "it would teleport both of you but to different squares" but I don't actually know whether that's correct or not – breaking wands with charges remaining is in any case inadvisable when on low HP 19:05 @shadow_rider its vanilla behavior 19:05 zap at it again? 19:06 <@shadow_rider> seems strange from what eggandhull said 19:06 <@shadow_rider> to get teleported w dragon 19:06 he didnt 19:06 it just happened to put him next to it 19:06 shitty rng 19:06 No, as in when he tried before 19:07 tried zapping himself? 19:07 no, zapped < 19:07 zapped the dragon? 19:07 if you zap the dragon, it teleports but moves you inside it, if it's a teleport-allowed level 19:07 yeah 19:07 so when teleport is allowed you have to zap yourself 19:07 yes what ais523 said 19:07 ^ 19:07 now is just shitty RNG, but it's an escapable situation at least 19:07 when it's no-teleport, the mysterious force will leave you in place but the dragon still moves if you zap it, whereas teleporting yourself doesn't work at all 19:08 <@shadow_rider> why did i never realize this was vanilla behavior?? 19:08 something something assumptions 19:08 :P 19:08 3 death wands so far 19:08 chance of the D taking a zap of sleep? then i can hack it 19:08 do I hear 4 19:08 <@shadow_rider> that’s actually insane to me how that never would have come up 19:08 Again, you do not want to melee dragons 19:09 what's the pinobot letter for evilhack? 19:09 at least not at this apparent juncture 19:09 e 19:09 @e?yellow dragon 19:09 yellow dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: acid petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 breath acid, 4d8 bite physical, 4d4 claw physical, 4d4 claw physical, 2d10 engulf digest, 0d2 passive corrosion | Align: -7 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis, passes-bars 19:09 <@shadow_rider> i’m so sick of being wrong at everything about this game 19:09 <@shadow_rider> goodbye forever everyone it’s been great 19:09 out of interest, which variant do you get if you don't put a letter in there? 19:09 vanilla 19:09 @?yellow dragon 19:09 yellow dragon (D) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 20 | Spd: 9 | Res: acid petrification | Confer: acid | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -1 | Atk: 4d6 breath acid, 3d8 bite physical, 1d4 claw physical, 1d4 claw physical | Align: 7 | genocidable, carnivore, flies, thick hide, oviparous, seeinvis 19:09 oh, so my @v? is redundant 19:09 just a lil' :B 19:09 @shadow_rider - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVrEwCa8nSA 19:10 the funny thing is, in vanilla, dragons are generally less dangerous in melee than at range, especially if you have AC<0 19:10 :P 19:10 because they prefer to melee you then breathe if they can, and their melee attacks generally have fewer terrible side effects 19:10 but many variants see this as a problem and prefer to fix this 19:11 some make them more likely to maintain breath range 19:11 evilhack dragons still prefer attacking from range 19:11 (there is also the "force a dragon into melee with you, but you are standing on a scroll of scare monster" approach which would neutralise dragons in 3.4.3 – I'm not sure whether that was fixed with the changes to monster fleeing 19:11 <@shadow_rider> that sounds like an issue for someone who likes to play reflectionless :) 19:11 reflection for the player is not absolute 19:11 also they're much more damaging in melee itself 19:11 <@shadow_rider> in evil 19:11 -!- fakepass_ has joined #hardfought 19:12 and dragon scales/scaled-mail have secondaries 19:12 now I am trying to figure out why yellow dragons are lawful in vanilla but chaotic in evil 19:12 which extend to the dragons themselves 19:12 -!- fakepass has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:12 uhhhhhhhhhhhhh 19:12 …and why they can fly through iron bars in evil 19:12 acidic 19:12 for the latter part 19:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Gouhan's ghost, the former Ninja, on T:4645 19:12 oh, they destroy them rather than just going through 19:12 that makes more sense 19:12 they're more "elemental engines of destruction" than "giant reptile" generally, on top of their breath just destroying bars anyway 19:12 far as alignment gimme A Minute 19:13 right, I was trying to figure out how the bars could survive that 19:13 they're chaotic evil in D&D 19:13 so it's vanilla that doesn't match, here 19:13 though they only show up in 2nd edition 19:13 although vanilla dragons don't match D&D dragons too well anyway 19:13 yeah and it pulled more from 1st ed. anyway 19:13 i fixed that in evilhack 19:13 at least at first 19:14 and just used that as the baseline since, sorta, ig 19:14 color dragons are typically chaotic (evil), metallic dragons are lawful (good) 19:14 sea dragon is the only neutral I think 19:14 D&D has law/chaos and good/evil as separate axes 19:14 yes i know 19:14 work with me here 19:14 so there are some lawful good and some chaotic good metallic dragons 19:14 likewise with the chromatics 19:14 rare 19:14 but I can't remember most of them 19:15 I think copper dragons are chaotic good? 19:15 probably, i'd have to look 19:15 good/evil axis doesn't exist Like That in nethack 19:15 so much as morality is relative to you 19:15 but for nethack purposes, any metallic dragon would (should) not be chaotic 19:15 i.e. does this creature want to corpse you or not 19:15 [hdf-eu] [hackm] UristMcRaven (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 1442 points, T:2223, killed by a rothe 19:15 https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/dragonTrue.htm 19:16 most neutral animals are more territorial than evil 19:16 K2: they can be peaceful, but the lawful ones get on better with dwarves and the chaotic ones better with elves, right? 19:16 (minus leocrotta, who are "canonically" twats) 19:16 yes 19:16 or, say, they would get blasted by different artifacts 19:16 [and also I think actually chaotic evil in D&D?] 19:17 the way I see alignment in nethack (and some may disagree) - lawful/neutral/chaotic are just different flavors of 'good' as far as the player is concerned. unaligned is 'evil' 19:18 I mean that's p. 1:1 with how I saw it 19:18 chaotic evil: black (acid line), red (fire cone), white (cold cone); lawful evil: blue (lightning line), green (acid cone) 19:18 in D&D 19:18 there's a bit of gray area though for chaotic players 19:18 acid is listed twice 19:18 line v. cone 19:19 ugh brb... dishes aint gonna do themselves 19:19 god I love +7 Cleaver 19:20 if you rub a magic bottle of mr. clean you can summon a dish genie 19:21 chaotic good: brass (fire line / sleep cone), copper (acid line / slow cone); lawful good: bronze (lightning line / "forces fleeing" cone), gold (fire cone / str drain cone), silver (cold cone / paralysis cone) 19:22 good dragons get twice as many breath weapons, it seems 19:22 some variant actually had a "cone" of cold. What happened to that? 19:22 in this case fire got repeated, among the elemental attacks 19:23 too much math? 19:23 I find cone attacks to be a pain to visualise, in the video games that have them 19:23 because even when you have a 90° cone which is the easiest to think about, the origin location of the cone matters 19:24 HyperRogue has the Orb of Plague which is limited to a cone (in addition to other limitations) and it is always confusing to work out exactly what will be affected by it 19:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6029 19:24 (it basically makes your melee attacks into AoE attacks, but they can only kill monsters within a cone in the direction you're attacking, also you need a continuous line of unbroken monsters to every monster you attack) 19:25 very good for clearing out crowds as long as only one monster is right next to you, though 19:26 huh, apparently D&D has a flavour justification for red dragons preferring melee attacks to ranged attacks – it doesn't want to destroy flammable treasure in its target's inventory 19:26 and they're overconfident and thus assume they'll win regardless 19:26 as you do when you're a dragon 19:27 this is much like players preferring not to use item-destroying attacks against monsters, which is definitely something that happens 19:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a golden naga, on T:6538 19:30 naturally this means 3.7 must add half-dragons as a race 19:32 <@fredriq> that's uh 19:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) stole 625 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Hebiwerie's general store, on T:7072 19:32 <@fredriq> not very smart by the red dragons 19:32 "they're overconfident and thus assume they'll win regardless" 19:32 <@fredriq> I'm tempted to port it to fiqhack but it would be weirdly inconsistent, and it's not like I typically follow D&D logic anyway 19:33 <@fredriq> but @chrisang might want to look into it 19:33 <@fredriq> with its heavy DnD influence 19:33 i.e. no, it isn't, but they're dragons, they're all p. hubristic to varying degrees 19:34 <@fredriq> fiqhack dragons are an exception in usual hubris which is basically the opposite 😛 19:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] dart (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1046 points, T:2887, killed by a gnome 19:34 <@fredriq> they will try to maintain distance and will happily outright flee if they get worried over their survival 19:35 <@fredriq> unlike, say, every other monster in the game 19:35 Most monsters in vanilla have a chance to flee 19:35 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Mon Dwa Mal Law) was sent a couatl by Shan Lai Ching, on T:6619 19:35 <@fredriq> sure 19:35 <@fredriq> but fh dragons do it consistently 19:35 you're saying dragons will more definitely do so if it's between them living and-- yeah 19:35 <@fredriq> or moreso at least 19:37 <@fredriq> fiqhack dragons was basically me going "ok I don't really want fiqhack tbecome Smart Kobold -- way too frustrating, but dragons as mythologically intelligent should maybe break typical roguelike monster pathing behaviour and try to position themselves intelligently" 19:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] vor (Brd Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:9473 19:38 it's a matter of how you distribute the brain cells 19:38 <@fredriq> the result is that dragons maintain distance, will be careful about lining themselves up if the player has shown ranged capabilities, won't mind using dragonbreath at point blank range, and will try to avoid letting players get the first melee attack in 19:39 -!- fakepass__ has joined #hardfought 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:3567 19:40 <@chrisang> The "don't want to use fire attacks" behavior seems pretty close to standard NetHack AI: charge in and don't use ranged attacks in melee. 19:41 -!- fakepass_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:41 Ohi Chris 19:42 anyway Ludios was p. straightforward, only gripe was getting death wands any time I showed a desire to start Cleaver-spamming 19:42 [hdf-eu] [hackm] UristMcRaven (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 2509 points, T:3781, killed by a giant badger 19:42 given I had MR, the primary annoyance was one of saving charges 19:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 9375 points, T:4147, killed by a wolf 19:43 <@fredriq> for those unaware about what Smart Kobold is, and what I mean when saying I don't want fiqhack to devolve into it: Smart Kobold gives kobolds (the only monster kind you're dealing with) all the strategies you usually associate with players in terms of roguelike pathfinding. Namely, they maintain range at all costs, will avoid lining up if the player gets a ranged weapon, and will destroy their ranged weapon if the player manages to corner them to 19:43 avoid the player stealing their item Forget even trying to kite them or similar 19:43 "Tucker's Kobolds" is probably a useful shorthand here 19:44 Same meaning but more likely a reader might recognize it if they're here and tabletop-savvy 19:45 <@fredriq> just looked up what the term meant 19:45 <@fredriq> and yeah, that's almost certainly where Smart Kobold got its inspiration 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Hea Gno Mal Neu) was bestowed with Giantslayer by Hermes, on T:9639 19:50 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Mon Dwa Mal Law), 8549 points, T:7960, killed by a hill orc, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 19:50 you know, even the fact that monsters are only hostile toward the player seems arbitrary/contrived 19:51 bit early to advocate for mandatory permaconflict 19:51 /j 19:52 i mean, if we really want to be logical 19:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) destroyed the commander, on T:50164 19:52 not to say it isn't, but that's the sort of concessions that were made ages ago 19:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 3891 points, T:1656, quit 19:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3 points, T:20, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 19:54 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:64, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 5 points, T:82, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 19:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] vor (Brd Hum Fem Cha), 6451 points, T:10506, killed by a gnome zombie 19:57 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:59 <@fredriq> ais523: wrt monpolycontrol for Master wands of polymorph: I considered it but decided against it out of concern of it being too strong 19:59 <@fredriq> when used against the player 19:59 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby violet dragon 20:00 <@fredriq> the idea of a monster zapping poly to break armor, then into something sessile like a blue jelly sounds too unfun 20:01 <@fredriq> imagine a monster turning themselves into a nymph, the player into a blue jelly, then going in and clean house inventory-wise 20:02 <@fredriq> or worse, turning themselves into trice/mind flayers 20:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] arrow (Ran Hum Fem Cha), 9464 points, T:9203, quit 20:03 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:04 that they can poly you at all in some variants threatens to go into unfun territory sometimes 20:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1244 points, T:1269, killed by a straw golem 20:08 <@fredriq> fiqhack does allow monsters to poly you 20:08 <@fredriq> but it basically never comes up 20:08 <@fredriq> because they aren't generated with the wand 20:08 <@fredriq> and basically no monsterhas enough skill with matter to use the spell 20:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:28, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 20:09 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Elf Mal Law), 0 points, T:30, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 5 points, T:208, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 20:11 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Dwa Nbn Neu), 33 points, T:226, killed by a serval 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 6 points, T:155, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:10859 20:12 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Nbn Law), 0 points, T:52, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 58 points, T:83, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1 20:13 not sure it would even be logical for an intelligent monster to zap an unknown wand just because they're about to die 20:13 desperate times, desperate measures 20:13 they don't know how many hp the hero has 20:13 for all they know, one more hit will do it 20:15 <@fredriq> anselmus: you're talking about fh I assume? monsters have perfect base item knowledge 20:15 <@fredriq> they don't know enchantment, BUC etc 20:15 <@fredriq> but they do know this 20:16 they should at least be required to engrave test imo 20:16 lmfao 20:16 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:17 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 20:17 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 20:17 @fredriq: you could make /oPoly resistable, I guess, to work around that problem 20:18 100% resistable by some common extrinsic, probably player-style MR 20:18 polytraps already are 20:18 <@fredriq> you can resist it with MR or unchanging 20:18 <@fredriq> but I don't like it 20:18 I think "you encounter an expert monster with a blessed /oPoly when you don't have MR" is too unlikely to worry about 20:18 …and it would still be more survivable than the same situation, but with a /oDeath instead 20:19 <@fredriq> anselmus: I considered forcing monsters to play the ID game, but decided against it, I don't remember why 20:19 oh, something that might have been YANI-proposed already, but I was thinking about recently: instead of having a recharge counter which is hard to explain without being told, make wand recharging based on erosion: wands have a chance of eroding when recharged, or of exploding if already eroded, and there's no way to unerode them 20:19 <@shadow_rider> where’s the symmetry let players know all base items! 20:20 I mean in evil/grunt if you get caught by a poly wand without MR there's a high chance you're forced to drop a ton of stuff and then just permalose it 20:20 Umbire: because the monster polypiles it next turn? 20:20 <@fredriq> @shadow_rider incidentally it's far easierto formally ID stuff in fiqhack, because there are new ways to do it 20:20 that and/or the new form is low enough on carrycap that you're forced to drop it anyway 20:20 the symmetry is since monsters die the player must also die 20:21 FIQHack game mode suggestion: when you die, you get to continue playing as the monster who killed you 20:21 <@fredriq> the scroll of id was changed to ID several items if uncursed, not just full knowledge. There is also the discovery container oprop that reveals base type of anything put inside 20:22 <@fredriq> ais523: one day I want to allow fh allies with undeadturn to undeadturn players 20:22 would they have a few turns to catch up? 20:22 maybe you get to play as a corpse, in the hope that something like that happens 20:23 but the only command you can use is . and the game ends when you rot away 20:23 <@fredriq> that was the idea, sort of 20:23 <@fredriq> the player would skip all turns as if it was sessile 20:23 <@fredriq> if they left a corpse 20:23 <@shadow_rider> that sounds cool and hard to inplement 20:23 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:23 YASI: corpse as a role, you start dead 20:23 <@fredriq> until it rots away 20:24 @shadow_rider: it's actually not as hard to implement as some of these ideas 20:24 <@fredriq> idk what to do about petrification though 20:24 <@fredriq> statues don't exactly rot away 20:24 continue until you have no pets left on the level 20:24 <@fredriq> perhaps 20:24 to ensure the game ends, give them the usual timer for untaming due to being offlevel, even though the statue is on the level 20:24 that can cast STF, you mean? 20:24 <@fredriq> but some pets can survive a level indefinitely 20:25 the hard part seems to be being, e.g., zombified or turned into a wraith 20:25 <@fredriq> ahh that'd work 20:25 <@fredriq> zombified are no longer the player 20:25 <@fredriq> only physically 20:25 presumably those are game overs because your intelligence/personality is destroyed, and there's no plausible way to recover from that 20:25 <@fredriq> yes exactly 20:25 <@fredriq> even vanilla has that 20:25 <@fredriq> green slime 20:26 there's circumstances where you play on as a green slime 20:26 I think if you get life saved? 20:27 <@fredriq> fwiw, running the game as if the player is a corpse is easier than you might think 20:27 poly as an offensive weapon should not behave the same way as polypiling which presumably requires optimal positioning 20:27 <@fredriq> a similar game mode exists already 20:27 <@fredriq> mimicking a pile of coins 20:27 I mean the piling thing is incidental 20:27 just a consequence of "monster wants to poly you, zaps wand at you" 20:27 <@fredriq> anselmus: what do you mean? 20:28 deaths would involve two death messages, I imagine 20:28 also, doesn't that just kinda upend bones as a concept? 20:28 i think it should be less efficient and reliable 20:28 "killed by a soldier ant, then a nymph polymorphed their corpse into an orange before it could be revived" 20:28 <@fredriq> Umbire: not really, the corpse is just gone 20:28 <@fredriq> the bones might remain 20:28 ah, right 20:29 <@fredriq> also fiqhack has another kind of death, being charmed into a Rodney thrall 20:29 <@fredriq> this means the player remains a player monster in bones 20:29 <@fredriq> and their inventory isn't cursed 20:30 <@fredriq> these bones tend to be way more dangerous 20:30 this presumably involves Rodney casting charm monster on the player? 20:30 <@fredriq> because a playermon has all the resources the player left behind, spells, trinsics, gear and all 20:30 is it resistable / is there a way to prevent it happening? 20:31 <@fredriq> ais523: flavouri-wise only, not an actual involvment on his side 20:31 <@fredriq> *flavour-wise 20:31 ah, what causes it then? 20:31 <@fredriq> I wanted to make bones sometimes leave a playermon to make it more interesting 20:31 his touch of death maybe? 20:31 <@fredriq> but the player is dead, why would bones have a playermon? 20:31 <@fredriq> hence the flavour 20:31 oh 20:32 those guys are mean 20:32 i think they got made a bit less mean 20:32 something something making an example of failed would-be thieves 20:32 <@fredriq> ais523: and no, it can't be resisted -- but you're dead so it doesn't matter 20:32 he's already implied to build his armies via brainwashing, it's a logical enough step 20:32 right, they start in a form where they are asleep now usually or something and are able to be avoided 20:32 @fredriq: I think a DCSS-like approach, where ghosts have comparable stats to the original player, might work (especially if they were capable of wearing armor, using items, etc.) 20:33 you resist it by not dying in the first place :-) 20:33 I mean doesn't using a playermon fulfill that mostly? 20:33 or is it not fulfilling it enough in those cases or s/t 20:33 <@fredriq> Demo: you're talking about fiqhack? because yeah, in initial versions of fh, playermon bones were incredibly dangerous 20:33 <@fredriq> and it wasn't unheard of for players to just randomly die out of nowhere 20:34 <@fredriq> because a playermon drank invis 20:34 Umbire: I was thinking mostly about flavor 20:34 <@fredriq> nowdays they start out meditating 20:35 <@fredriq> (the same state as covetous monsters typically do, although playermons aren't covetous) 20:35 I always get greedy and get killed by them anyways 20:36 <@fredriq> also note that fiqhack monsters know how containers work 20:36 <@fredriq> so players having stuffed their stuff inside their BoH doesn't stop a playermon from using it all 20:36 can't monsters use containers in vanilla too, nowadays? or did I misremember? 20:37 <@fredriq> also, in the past, a playermon had max spell skills and wand skill which was unfair 20:37 <@fredriq> nowdays their skill training is cloned from the dead player 20:37 actually, that indirectly is dangerous because bags of holding in bones often become cursed, and if a playermonster tries to take items out of them, most of them will be lost 20:37 so the bones becomes a lot less valuable 20:37 <@fredriq> playermon bones avoid death item cursing 20:37 <@fredriq> specifically because of this 20:38 <@fredriq> also to give the player a 'reward' for harder bones 20:39 [hdf-au] [hackm] Orcranger (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 220 points, T:508, killed by a kobold 20:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 20 points, T:1, caught himself in his own ball of lightning 20:39 <@fredriq> speaking of cursed BoH, once a monster learns that their BoH is cursed, they stop using it 20:40 <@fredriq> this was done to reduce player frustration, because there is really only one source of cursed BoHs in the game 20:40 <@fredriq> a player was somehow involved 20:40 <@fredriq> either bones, a harassment or similar 20:41 <@fredriq> technically confused remove curse is a non-player source of BoH, but it's rare enough as to be insignificant compared to other options 20:42 hmm, I wonder whether the "fake bones piles" in vanilla can create cursed BoHes? 20:42 <@fredriq> one day I plan to make playermons learn to metagame wrt confused scroll readings 20:42 I know tools were included in the options but I can't remember whether I put limits on which types of tool were possible 20:42 <@fredriq> currently in fiqhack, monster AI doesn't consider confusion 20:42 <@fredriq> when reading scrolls 20:43 <@fredriq> (deliberately) 20:43 there are some scroll effects that are only useful for monsters if confused 20:43 e.g. gold detection – gold-loving monsters generally know where it is already, other monsters won't care 20:43 but any monster would benefit from recognising all types of trap 20:43 <@fredriq> yep 20:43 [hdf-au] [hackm] Orcranger (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 180 points, T:740, killed by a skunk, while sleeping 20:44 <@fredriq> incidentally, I think earth, gold detection, food detection and magic mappping are the 4 scrolls fh monsters neveruse 20:44 <@fredriq> they use everything else 20:44 which is weird, because vanilla monsters do use earth 20:44 <@fredriq> actually they don't use fire or amnesia either 20:45 <@fredriq> ais523: I removed it from monsters in fh 20:45 for Sokoban-related reasons, or some other reason? 20:45 <@fredriq> because monsters don't really deal well with boulders 20:45 <@fredriq> it wouldn't really help them 20:45 3.7 allows certain monsters to destroy boulders, but scroll of earth wouldn't really help in that situation either 20:46 <@fredriq> in Sokoban they would likely be coded to not use it at all, if they ever read it in the first place 20:46 maybe if a boulder-destroying monster was fleeing? 20:46 I can see an argument for giants reading scrolls of earth 20:46 <@fredriq> monsters using force bolt/striking on a boulder in Sokoban is penalized 20:46 as they do have a use for boulders and aren't blocked by them 20:46 <@fredriq> when determining targeting score 20:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] vor (Brd Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2460 20:46 oh, for a moment I thought you'd added a monster luck stat 20:47 <@fredriq> ais523: wrt giants, yeah the question came up a day or two ago 20:47 <@fredriq> I don't think it'd be a bad idea to make giants willing to read earth 20:47 late but yes, fake bones have always been able to create cursed BoH 20:47 <@fredriq> ais523: iirc monsters don't have a luck stat 20:47 they don't in vanilla or NH4, but I could totally believe that you might have added one 20:48 <@fredriq> I did consider giving them one since they can carry luckstones 20:48 <@fredriq> but nethack luck is just weird in general 20:49 <@fredriq> anyway what I meant with penalized was 20:49 <@fredriq> when monsters use ranged things (not weapons which remain covered by traditional AI code), they use a scoring system to determine the most helpful direction 20:49 <@fredriq> this does stuff like discourage (but not eliminate) friendly fire 20:50 <@fredriq> all ranged item scores are compared with each other if several optoions exist, monsters will only use the one with the largest score value 20:51 <@fredriq> for example, a monster would priority casting stone to flesh on a petrifying ally over hurting hostiles 20:51 fwiw I actually enjoy tricking monsters into friendly fire in vanilla – I guess a realistic version would consider intelligence, the monsters' attitudes towards each other, etc. 20:51 maybe some monsters are indifferent towards each other, they won't actively attack but won't try to avoid harming either 20:51 <@fredriq> the score system also deals with items on the floor, so for example, a monster can -- and will -- undeadturn corpses 20:52 e.g. dragons have little reason to attack lichens but probably don't care about breathing over them 20:52 to hit something else 20:52 <@fredriq> heh 20:52 <@fredriq> it's not a bad idea 20:53 <@fredriq> but would require overhauling monster affinities towards each other 20:53 <@fredriq> on a pm basis 20:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 149 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:45454 20:53 <@fredriq> beyond existing grudges 20:53 <@fredriq> anyway, the fact that fh monsters know how turn undead works meant I had to nerf Double Trouble 20:54 [hdf-us] [slshm] yury (Wiz Dop Mal Cha), 466 points, T:826, killed by a poisonous cloak 20:54 <@fredriq> because for a time, the game could end up creating an army of Rodneys 20:54 I can see how that would happen 20:55 <@fredriq> because he would instantly double trouble himself, then if one of them died, he would double trouble again -- and, if he generated with turn undead, immediately revive the corpse 20:55 DeuceHack has a similar sort of issue, I ended up disabling most of the Rodney-related sanity checks and decided to just let it go wild 20:55 [hdf-us] [4k] Marzipan (efot) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) unlocked the Ranger role by using stairs, on T:573 20:55 <@fredriq> and now you have 3 Rodneys 20:55 not because of Rodneys reviving but because of the game losing track of Rodneys that already existed 20:55 <@fredriq> this is still theoretically possible, but nowdays Double Trouble has a delay 20:55 <@fredriq> before kicking in 20:56 fwiw I'm not necessarily sure that uncapping Double Trouble would actually make the game worse, at least with vanilla mechanics where he can't cast it most turns 20:56 <@fredriq> in fiqhackn monsters have player spells 20:56 <@fredriq> and use the spells intelligently 20:56 <@fredriq> double trouble is reserved for Rodney, but functions as any other player spell 20:57 <@fredriq> in terms of intelligent use etc 20:57 <@fredriq> due to this, Rodney's first action is typically to cast it 20:57 <@fredriq> because there's no reason not to 20:57 <@fredriq> only trumped by things like curing petrification 20:58 <@fredriq> Double Trouble behaves as if it was a level 7 clerical spell 20:58 <@fredriq> similar to summon nasties iirc 20:59 <@fredriq> (which is a player spell in fh) 20:59 feel like there's an argument for making it a same-level matter spell 20:59 <@fredriq> the level 7 matter spell in fh is polymorph iirc 20:59 ~~then you would finally have an instance of "high-skill wand of poly usage"~` 20:59 oh boo I botched the strike through 21:00 which keyboard layout can typo ~ as `? 21:00 the one where they're the same key 21:00 :v 21:01 they're opposite ends of the keyboard, on my UK keyboard – but come to think of it, ~ is on one of the two extra keys that isn't present in the UK layout (the Left Shift and Return keys are made smaller to make room for two extra key) 21:01 so maybe ~ is with ` on a US layout? 21:01 yes, that is in fact exactly the case 21:02 <@fredriq> they're not the same key, but really close on Swedish 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:46370 21:08 <@fredriq> if I named my variant toay 21:08 [hdf-us] [4k] Marzipan (efot) (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2472 points, T:1180, killed by a hobbit 21:08 <@fredriq> it'd probably be called Hack'n'Parity 21:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 608441 points, T:46531, turned to slime by a green slime 21:09 Oh, well speaking of slime 21:09 !lastgame 21:09 Umbire: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/parasite/splicehack/dumplog/1689685659.splice.html :: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Urc/nethack/dumplog/1689206621.nh.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/O/Orcranger/hackem/dumplog/1689727183.hackem.html 21:09 <@fredriq> as in monster-player parity/symmetry 21:09 had some wands of fire, probably didn't know how to cure it 21:14 -!- Hekik_ has joined #hardfought 21:17 <@fredriq> ais523: I want to implement a better help system for items, spells, etc. The idea I had was to give each item its own description, with some classes of items (weapons for example) a generic damage table. I also wanted to make makedefs complain if an item description is missing. Would this be a bad idea? 21:17 <@fredriq> the idea was to reserve Guidebook entries for flavour 21:17 -!- Hekik has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:20 @fredriq: I intentionally tried to design the handwritten descriptions so that any two items could be compared with just their descriptions 21:20 I was mostly trying to keep to the "spirit" of vanilla, rather than just showing numbers (which might be hard to understand if you don't have a D&D background) 21:20 I don't think that directly showing numbers would necessarily be a bad idea, although it'd be something of a major change in how that part of the game operates 21:21 note that many players will be upset that, if you implement something like that, it doesn't spoil every possible use of the item in every possible context 21:21 one advantage of the handwritten descriptions is that it makes it more clear that it's an "obvious uses only" kind of thing rather than a full spoiler 21:24 <@fredriq> ever played Pathos? 21:24 <@fredriq> it does, in fact, spoil ever use ever 21:24 <@fredriq> which is IMO a good thing 21:24 <@fredriq> from obvious usecases, to confused effect (scrolls), to what happens if you eat the item, etc 21:26 I consider this the thing that makes Pathos very different from NetHack 21:26 really the whole soul of NetHack for an unspoiled player is improvising interactions 21:26 arguably even for spoiled players, I'd say 21:26 there is a huge amount to learn, but you don't need to know a large proportion of it to beat the game 21:26 ^ 21:26 but because there's so much, a small proportion is still large in an absolute sense 21:27 but by that token, at least for me, it's a little exciting if an unexpected interaction comes up 21:27 anyway, Pathos' approach is only viable because it drastically cuts down on the interactions 21:27 which makes the game shallower in terms of "what there is to discover" and much more into a combat simulator 21:30 <@fredriq> I haven't played it in years 21:31 <@fredriq> but I don't really remember it cutting down the game all that much interaction-wise 21:31 <@fredriq> A couple of things (sinks for example) was removed, but most of it remained 21:31 <@fredriq> as a NetHack player, for the most part things behaved the way I expected 21:31 isn't that because most of the interactions in NetHack never come up in any given game? 21:32 <@fredriq> but the quest was removed, as was most if not all of Gehennom iirc (which isn't necessasily a bad thing...) 21:32 Gehennom has actually grown on me over time – I think most of the issues with Gehennom are actually issues with late-game balance that aren't specific to Gehennom itself 21:33 <@fredriq> eating jewelry was not only kept but outright expanded, which made me want to collect every single possible intrinsic in that one game I eventually won 21:34 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] Noisytoot (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) became the Guardian of the Old Lords, on T:33652 21:35 <@fredriq> I distinctly recall messing with pentagrams in that game (about equally safe as drinking fountains) to acquire the safe-cannibalism intrinsic 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Smithgift (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2151 21:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] efot (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1438 points, T:3176, killed by a manes 21:36 safe cannibalism? 21:36 as an intrinsic, no less 21:36 i.e. "it's possible to do this safely with a late-game character who takes sufficient precautions, but most use is by early-game characters startscumming"? 21:36 <@fredriq> ais523: one of Pathos' better ideas is being able to recruit the Watch in minetown with money to make them temporary or permanent allies 21:37 o: 21:37 actually fascinating 21:37 @fredriq: vanilla has a codepath for that but doing it on the Watch is intentionally blocked, even though it intentionally lets you try 21:37 <@fredriq> ais523: More or less, yeah, although iirc there is no reason to mess with pentagrams earlygame unlike fountains 21:37 as for safe-cannibalism, can't imagine any immediate places where that comes up 21:37 so the devs must have explicitly considered and rejected it 21:37 <@fredriq> ais523: but that only pacifies in NetHack, no? 21:37 yes, pacifies rather than tames 21:38 <@fredriq> but yeah chances are that's how they got the idea 21:38 which is probably more useful tbh 21:38 if I am underleveled / in danger at the Castle, I sometimes bribe a soldier to block one of the side corridors for me while I go for the wand of wishing 21:38 you can kill them on the way back for the gold, if you don't mind the alignment hit 21:39 (or in 3.7, displace them once you're ready to leave, if you don't care about the gold) 21:39 <@fredriq> iirc the way it worked in Pathos was that you could chat to intelligent monsters, and for a certain sum of mooney couldd either tame them temporarily, or for a larger sum, permanentlyy 21:40 fredriq, did you come across any scenarios where safe-cannibalism would be actually applicable? 21:40 during any of your games 21:40 <@fredriq> in fiqhack, anything can displace peacefuls 21:40 <@fredriq> besides other peacefuls (to avoid loops) 21:40 <@fredriq> Umbire: not really 21:40 <@fredriq> it was more of a stupid ascension trick 21:41 what, to like 21:41 eat player monsters as a human without penalty? 21:41 while in mind flayer or purple worm form 21:41 <@fredriq> I wanted to collect all intrinsics 😛 21:41 I know that :B 21:41 but I'm asking, what would the use case be for players doing not-exactly-that 21:42 <@fredriq> mind flayers aren't affected by cannibalism while brainsucking 21:42 <@fredriq> unless it's a new 3.7 thing? 21:42 in vanilla it counted as cannibalism for players poly'd into mind flayers 21:42 and attacking a monster of their race 21:42 iirc 21:43 the illogical thing to me is, if safe-cannibalism is an intrinsic, why can't you just get it by eating orcs? 21:44 I mean it's p. "illogical" for it to be an obtainable intrinsic to begin with 21:44 not that I'm disagreeing with you calling it such 21:45 my answer meanwhile is "basically the same reason they don't give poison res" 21:45 it's not like some passing curse that can be inherited, it's kinda just what they do 21:45 in their case 21:46 @? orc 21:46 orc (o) | Lvl: 1 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: special | AC: 10 | Atk: 1d8 weapon physical | Align: -3 | genocidable, omnivore, nopoly, infravis 21:46 orcs, the monster, are not poison resistant in vanilla 21:46 @?hill orc 21:46 hill orc (o) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Atk: 1d6 weapon physical | Align: -4 | genocidable, omnivore, infravis 21:46 I think they probably would confer poison res if they were 21:47 conferrable intrinsics is IIRC not entirely hardcoded, it's mostly based on a formula 21:47 but no monster can confer an intrinsic unless it has it itself 21:47 @? floating eye 21:47 floating eye (e) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 1 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 10 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 9 | Atk: 0d70 passive paralyze | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, amphibious, infravis 21:47 several variants give orcs poison res to match the player orc and don't have it as conferrable 21:48 floating eyes giving telepathy is a weird special case, I think: Pinobot doesn't think they confer, because they shouldn't according to the data, so there must be a special case just for them 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Smithgift (Sam Hum Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 11 arrows on an altar, on T:3332 21:48 also pinobot isn't up to date 21:48 recent commit gave orcs poison res 21:48 minus goblins and hobs to differentiate them some 21:49 apparently in Lord of the Rings, "orc" and "goblin" are synonyms, despite most games differentiating 21:49 or, not even recent, as far back as october 21:52 and back to the matter of safe-cannibalism, on top of wondering when that would even come up, I'm wondering exactly how you'd get such an intrinsic at all to begin with 21:53 which I forgot to ask @fredriq 21:55 <@fredriq> interacting with a pentagram 21:55 <@fredriq> it's like see invisible with fountains 21:55 <@fredriq> random 21:55 oh, I forgot to mention, I think see invisible is the best designed intrinsic in vanilla in terms of how you get it 21:56 there are multiple paths with different trade-offs and availabilities, and in the midgame it's very likely to be obtainable if you need it 21:57 it feels like getting it from a pentagram would entail an actual downside coming with it 21:57 as part of getting the intrinsic, rather than the fountain-odds of the pentagram 21:57 -!- terrapin has joined #hardfought 21:58 far as "when would you conceivably want this" I guess there's nurse tins if you're human 21:59 though idk exactly how many aspects Pathos is diverged in so 22:00 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] Noisytoot (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Neu) was given Vorpal Blade, on T:34686 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Smithgift (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4672 22:04 Hmm, seeing "You are no longer vulnerable to cold." in evilhack 22:05 [hdf-au] [hackm] Orcranger (Tou Hob Mal Neu) had Whisperfeet bestowed upon him by The Lady, on T:2644 (1:12:03) 22:06 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed wand of undead turning", got "a brass wand", on T:39611 22:11 New clerical spells induce vulnerability to elements 22:11 you really want to pay attention to combat messages 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Smithgift (Sam Hum Fem Law) Trenggalek, the delicatessen proprietrix, has been killed, on T:5738 22:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Smithgift (Sam Hum Fem Law) Aklavik, the general store proprietrix, has been killed, on T:5853 22:21 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dhl-Hea Dro Fem Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:3322 22:30 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:40112 22:36 resuming un, leviathan is our local gray dragon 22:36 draken is ice at minimum 22:36 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 22:36 or no it just says outright if it's ice dragon or reflective dragon 22:36 neat 22:37 so draken = white then 22:42 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:10147 22:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10416 23:02 [hdf-eu] [un] Umbire (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:28858 23:02 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 23:02 killed him in 3 swings, thank you +7 Cleaver 23:03 hello Moonstone o: 23:03 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 410 points, T:931, killed by Gollum 23:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2743 23:04 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 13 points, T:100, killed by a black pudding 23:05 bhaak, so I know this is one of those portal stones but I can't remember if it's single use 23:05 or what 23:05 is it BoH-safe also? 23:10 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Und Hum Fem Law), 11275 points, T:6562, quit 23:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] vor (Brd Hum Fem Cha) was given Tobiume, on T:11799 23:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 768 points, T:1765, killed by a gnome lord 23:21 -!- petra_the_kat has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:25 a centaurian priest corpse named Zerelous the Curate 23:25 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Pri Elf Fem Law), 971 points, T:925, killed by an invisible stalker 23:25 safe to eat/sacrifice? 23:26 ate. 23:32 same rules as before, cannibalism and same-race sacrifice only cares about "same race as you" 23:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] k3ut0i (Nec Dop Fem Cha), 599 points, T:995, killed by a kitten 23:39 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ardub (Mon Cen Mal Neu) annihilated master mind flayers, on T:35079 (1 day, 0:08:07) 23:39 oh god, 4 dragons in zoo room 23:40 <@Loggers_VIII> !who 23:40 @Loggers_VIII: [hdf-eu] Umbire [un] :: [hdf-us] Som [dnh] vor [dnh] anselmus [nh4] tau [evil] eggandhull [evil] Ardub [hackm] :: [hdf-au] Grasshopper [nh370] 23:40 <@Loggers_VIII> !whereis eggandhull 23:40 @Loggers_VIII: [hdf-us] eggandhull [evil]: (Sam Dwa Mal Law) T:31310 The Dungeons of Doom level: 23 23:41 hi logs 23:41 <@Loggers_VIII> hi umbire 23:41 <@Loggers_VIII> how goes the hacks 23:41 finished croesus 23:42 forgot that Un hid a specific reward in here 23:42 <@Loggers_VIII> it's payday 23:42 at a bit of a loss about what to do with it 23:42 <@Loggers_VIII> what is it 23:42 so there's this set of artifact gemstones, right 23:42 that you can invoke to make a portal 23:43 but I can't remember if they're one-time use or you can make/close the portal whenever 23:43 (with one per stone obvs.) 23:43 also can't remember if it's BoH-safe 23:43 ~~it probably is but I wanna be 200% sure~~ 23:43 <@Loggers_VIII> hm 23:44 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2885 (0:39:52) 23:48 -!- marblesurf has joined #hardfought 23:48 -!- marblesurf has quit [Changing host] 23:48 -!- marblesurf has joined #hardfought 23:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Loggers (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1280 points, T:2112, killed by a crocodile of Offler 23:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] vor (Brd Hum Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:12788 23:53 lmao 23:53 almost forgot about dnh having way more minion variety 23:53 need to get the basic minion article on the wiki updated 23:54 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:3340 (0:49:39) 23:54 <@Loggers_VIII> croc of offler is funny 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:46418 23:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:46419 23:54 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3340 (0:49:48) 23:55 <@Loggers_VIII> having a decent time with dnethack but ugh 3.4.3 based is irritating -_- 23:56 [hdf-us] [evil] tau (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:3370 (0:50:58) 23:56 <@Loggers_VIII> oh waddahell I just failed a read on a blessed spellbook 23:57 lmao RIP 23:58 is dnh one of those variants that does the "increased success chance" on spellbooks rather than insta-success 23:58 sounds like something it might do 23:58 <@Loggers_VIII> probably 23:59 alright so least I can do is pick this thing up 23:59 <@Loggers_VIII> what's it called 23:59 <@Loggers_VIII> wiki doesn't seem to say anything about it