00:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (black dragons), on T:23105 (1:46:36) 00:01 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Axus, on T:42559 00:04 -!- terrapin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:05 -!- terrapin has joined #hardfought 00:06 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ardub (Bar Cen Mal Neu) performed his first annihilation (disenchanters), on T:30850 (18:58:07) 00:07 -!- Bleeko has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:08 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 00:09 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:09 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 00:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] masterofpi (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Eymoutiers, the antique weapons outlet proprietor, on T:22438 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Magicbane by Anhur, on T:2462 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", got "a greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:3163 00:18 !tell @fredriq I found the original of That Comment, and it's much more readable than the current version: (I checked this version of the source against Hack 1.0.3, it's the same there, but this one is easier to link) 00:18 No worries, ais523, I've got this! 00:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2490 points, T:4149, killed by a gnome lord 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] vor (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:9816 00:27 sarang2014 00:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:26777 (2:12:53) 00:43 -!- ais523 has quit [Quit: quit] 00:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a mithril dwarvish mattock on an altar, on T:11476 (1:10:45) 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) averted death (choked on a fortune cookie), on T:39897 00:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Numenorean (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:13381 00:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed Warden Arianna, on T:29983 (2:32:57) 00:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29984 (2:32:59) 01:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) returned The Iron Ball of Liberation to Robert the Lifer, completing his quest, on T:30151 (2:33:50) 01:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a shadow dragon, on T:30758 (2:37:58) 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 39 points, T:371, killed by a bear trap 01:10 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:13348 (1:32:26) 01:13 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a long sword entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:13609 (1:35:53) 01:13 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:31540 (2:44:39) 01:19 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:14616 (1:42:17) 01:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:21 thank you K2! (went to bed the moment I'd asked so didn't see it until now) 01:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:15012 (1:44:25) 01:24 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ardub (Bar Cen Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 dragonhide elven helm of decay", on T:31742 (20:12:04) 01:26 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 01:28 -!- arahael_ has joined #hardfought 01:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:40462 01:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:32283 (2:57:08) 01:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:32290 (2:57:52) 01:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:32292 (2:58:01) 01:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:32293 (2:58:04) 01:32 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1632 points, T:1303, killed by a fire ant 01:44 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 01:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:40800 01:47 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:51 -!- arahael_ has joined #hardfought 01:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Numenorean (Arc Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:14601 02:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:41187 02:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful jabberwock, on T:41300 02:12 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ardub (Bar Cen Mal Neu) destroyed Charon, on T:32759 (20:57:40) 02:13 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ardub (Bar Cen Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:32776 (20:59:12) 02:14 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ardub (Bar Cen Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:32802 (21:00:13) 02:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:622 02:19 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] vor (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12497 02:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:41611 02:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1220 points, T:1689, poisoned by a rotted hill orc corpse 02:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:21067 02:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5282 02:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:23104 02:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] vor (Kni Hum Fem Law) was bestowed with Grayswandir by Lugh, on T:13589 02:54 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #hardfought 02:54 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:57 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:00 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] MalkMcJorma (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 9612 points, T:4621, killed by a red naga, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 03:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:25415 (7:26:32) 03:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25416 (7:26:35) 03:25 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 03:25 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:25 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 03:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) returned Gjallar to the Norn, completing her quest, on T:25697 (7:32:06) 03:30 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 03:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1167 points, T:2275, killed by a dingo 03:41 [hdf-us] [fh] cpittman (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", on T:11950 03:45 what's the radius of fireball? 03:45 The first explosion is centered on the selected location, and the subsequent ones will occur randomly on that square or any of the eight squares around it; the explosions themselves each affect a 3×3 square area around their center.[5] 03:46 5 i guess? 03:47 good thing i was fire resistant lol 03:55 -!- docpi has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:05 [hdf-us] [un] k3ut0i (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Moria, on T:20472 (4:54:20) 04:07 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:09 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Pir Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:15564 04:09 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:15582 04:10 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:15615 04:18 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 4812 points, T:15886, killed by Mr. Enrobwem; the elven shopkeeper 04:19 [hdf-us] [un] k3ut0i (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Blackmarket, on T:22578 (5:07:38) 04:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 274 points, T:1155, killed by a giant mimic 04:20 -!- Arseniy has joined #hardfought 04:21 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:37 [hdf-us] [un] k3ut0i (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Fort Ludios, on T:24357 (5:26:23) 04:39 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:59 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:36300 (17:49:47) 05:01 [hdf-us] [un] k3ut0i (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Anaraxis the Black, on T:26947 05:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 260 points, T:1378, killed by a hobbit 05:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2493 05:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "Blessed fixed +2 mjollnir", got "a blessed war hammer named Mjollnir", on T:2518 05:24 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 05:28 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:35 -!- anselmus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ardi (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 11 points, T:283, killed by a falling rock 05:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1337 points, T:2254, killed by a crossbow bolt 05:44 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Fem Law) performed her first annihilation (ha-nagas), on T:36772 (18:03:49) 05:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful housecat, on T:7946 05:47 [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:29683 05:52 [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:29991 05:54 [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:29994 05:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] playerb (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:11027 06:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Blackbeard's Ghost, on T:24835 06:05 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Sam Inf Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2616 06:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 342 points, T:1661, killed by a brown mold 06:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Mal Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:2937 06:08 [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:30673 06:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 136 points, T:803, killed by a magic missile zapped by a gnome lord 06:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3469 06:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 54 points, T:638, killed by a sewer rat 06:17 [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:30945 06:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 209 points, T:1168, killed by a gnome zombie 06:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:10576 06:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 322 points, T:1495, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 06:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 5748 points, T:4049, killed by a gold golem, while fainted from lack of food 06:34 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 06:34 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 06:34 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 420 points, T:2746, killed by a gas spore's explosion 06:41 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:13455 06:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 376 points, T:2333, killed by a boulder 06:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Law), 350 points, T:1461, killed by a wand 06:53 [hdf-us] [un] k3ut0i (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:29018 06:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 97 points, T:247, killed by a goblin 06:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:13, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:55 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:6, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:15632 07:00 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 07:01 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 07:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 697 points, T:2689, killed by a gnomish wizard 07:07 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed +2 Dragonbane", on T:37009 (18:41:18) 07:13 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide T-shirt of drain resistance", on T:37103 (18:46:57) 07:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 58668 points, T:16767, killed by an elf-lady, while frozen by a potion 07:26 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Wiz Vam Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 07:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered Darcy, his faithful little dog, on T:2493 07:28 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 07:29 -!- Bleeko has joined #hardfought 07:31 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Sam Inf Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3224 07:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2566 points, T:3118, killed by a rabid rat 07:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] playerb (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 3 daggers on an altar, on T:15148 07:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) found Demonbane in a shop, on T:1593 07:47 -!- jilles has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:48 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 07:49 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2071 07:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was bestowed with Magicbane by Anhur, on T:4699 07:53 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 564 points, T:2304, killed by a werejackal, while praying 08:00 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 08:06 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 08:13 morning 08:13 mornin' 08:15 <@post163> morning K2 08:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] playerb (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:16898 08:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Law), 959 points, T:1620, killed by a dwarf 08:19 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 08:19 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:19 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 08:21 morn 08:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:10872 08:28 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Sam Inf Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6738 08:38 [hdf-eu] [nh4] Joppe (joes) (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 27116 points, T:2282, killed by a dwarf 08:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:29345 08:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1252 points, T:5670, killed by a gnome lord 08:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1375 points, T:1409, killed by a gold golem 08:46 [hdf-us] [un] k3ut0i (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Durin's Bane, on T:31449 08:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 289 points, T:1152, killed by a dart 08:51 [hdf-eu] [spl] parasite (Sam Inf Mal Law), 14861 points, T:9497, killed by a green moldier 08:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 388 points, T:2077, killed by a jackal 08:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jack (Hdr-Wiz Dro Mal Law) wished for "communion glyph", on T:72305 08:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Fem Neu), 668 points, T:1667, killed by a rothe, while praying 08:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1890 09:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jack (Hdr-Wiz Dro Mal Law) killed Illurien of the Myriad Glimpses, on T:72480 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3941 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3982 09:04 [hdf-us] [un] k3ut0i (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:32489 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 3017 points, T:2444, killed by a giant ant 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a piece of cloth on an altar, on T:4085 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sylmare (hackedhead) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 16349 points, T:902, killed by a dwarf 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) destroyed Flench's ghost, the former Embalmer, on T:4139 09:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) found Sting on the floor, on T:4141 09:10 [hdf-us] [un] k3ut0i (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:32736 (8:48:18) 09:14 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed Wallet of Perseus", on T:37472 (19:15:29) 09:21 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:71489 (23:32:28) 09:27 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Kostchtchie, on T:43715 09:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) was bestowed with Mjollnir by Hermes, on T:4601 09:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1619 points, T:1583, killed by an imp, while frozen by a potion 09:33 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sylmare (hackedhead) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 26706 points, T:1358, killed by a gnome lord 09:34 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:40 [hdf-au] [nh370] UmberConductor (Ran Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:38730 09:42 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:42 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] VFD (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:30247 09:46 hm, 9k exp or a gain level to go 09:48 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 09:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:73219 (1 day, 0:00:21) 09:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] VFD (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:30249 09:52 !lastgame joes 09:52 joes: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/j/joes/nethack/dumplog/1676045409.nh.html :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/joes/nethack4/dumplog/2023-07-11%2012%3A37%3A53%2C%20Joppe-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/j/joes/evilhack/dumplog/1648225772.evil.html 09:54 found by own cockatrice polyinit bones: https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/joes/nethack4/dumplog/2023-07-10%2014:56:42,%20Joppe-Arc-Hum-Mal-Neu,%20died.txt 09:54 ^ died to Oracle 09:58 [hdf-us] [nh4] RubrChckn (nabru) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 14311 points, T:740, killed by a wand, while stuck in monster form, in polyinit mode 09:58 on github the issues page is /issues, an individual issue page is /issues/ 09:58 the pull requests page is /pulls, an individual pull request is /pull/ 09:59 why are they inconsistent, it always trips me up when I try to go directly to an individual issue by putting the URL together myself 09:59 one stays plural and the other becomes singular 10:00 pull requests are issues 10:00 not that that is related, but like, figure out how to interpret that into some wordplay 10:00 and it doesn't redirect or anything, you get a 404 if you try to go to /issue/X or /pulls/X 10:02 it is a shitty broken janky ruby app they tricked a bunch of devs into using cause it was convenient and tricked microsoft into buying just cause microsoft hates open source and if they get to control where a lot of it is done, they can extend, embrace, extinguish 10:03 i would meet tom though 10:06 [hdf-us] [hackm] Kewl (Ran Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3009 (0:35:21) 10:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Flench (Hea Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:6054 10:08 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 682 points, T:1622, killed by a bugbear 10:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:167 10:11 lmao 10:11 two gain level with 4k EXP to go 10:12 !who 10:12 K2: [hdf-us] Tormuse [nh370] Skillfulhacks [nh370] Flench [nh370] WizzyTheWeird [nh370] guest99987 [dnh] bleeko [ndnh] krm26 [evil] Kewl [hackm] hothraxxa [hackm] :: [hdf-eu] nmlkj [nh370] joes [nh4] mobileuser [hackm] :: [hdf-au] UmberConductor [nh370] 10:13 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Fem Law) killed Nebuchadnezzar, on T:38453 (20:04:22) 10:13 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 10:14 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "greased holy fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", got "a blessed greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:3921 10:16 oh yeah, despite all the hate on github codespaces are pretty neat and function a lot better than I was expecting them to. playpen ide grade cheap developers + heavy use of codespaces and solid orgwide configs and rules could lead to a much cheaper way to get things built 10:16 what are codespaces? 10:17 oh it's some way to run virtual dev environments online? 10:17 temporary shell server instances exposed through a vscode interface in the browser 10:17 yeah 10:18 but the interesting part is the org wide config you can do for them. I'm not sure how granular it gets though 10:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Demonbane by Blind Io, on T:4279 10:19 [hdf-us] [hackm] Kewl (Ran Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4143 (0:48:17) 10:19 it seems like a good way to enable the playpen IDE dev model 10:20 which i think is going to get a lot more popular in years to come 10:20 and I am excited for the consequences of 10:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2835 points, T:2047, killed by a giant beetle 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Law), 964 points, T:2588, killed by a bolt of lightning 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Sunsword by Blind Io, on T:4739 10:24 [hdf-us] [hackm] Kewl (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 3658 points, T:5103, quit 10:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3695 points, T:3407, killed by a soldier ant 10:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5117 points, T:3456, killed by a piranha 10:26 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Fem Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:38503 (20:10:08) 10:26 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:38506 (20:10:32) 10:26 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 10:31 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Fem Law) completed her quest without incident, on T:38724 (20:15:24) 10:31 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Fem Law) received a boon from her quest leader for good behavior, on T:38724 (20:15:24) 10:35 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Mammon, on T:45177 10:41 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6728 10:42 -!- wvc has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:49 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 10:50 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 66 points, T:130, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:52 [hdf-us] [sp] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 149 points, T:440, killed by a sewer rat 10:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:39, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:53 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 50 points, T:29, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 50 points, T:25, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:53 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Nbn Cha), 62 points, T:61, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:55 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by kicking a wall 10:55 [hdf-us] [ndnh] post163 (Nob Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by kicking a wall 10:56 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:19, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:56 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 31 points, T:68, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:18, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:56 [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Hob Mal Neu), 19 points, T:10, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonosmalls88 (Mon Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "3 blessed scrolls of charging", got "a scroll labeled LOREM IPSUM", on T:27702 11:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonosmalls88 (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "amulet of reflection", got "a circular amulet", on T:27704 11:04 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Fem Law) killed Xanathar, on T:39466 (20:32:35) 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Frost Brand by Blind Io, on T:8884 11:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a sewer rat, on T:17178 (2:18:55) 11:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 49380 points, T:17426, killed by a leocrotta 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:10625 11:16 [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 1246 points, T:4564, killed by a goblin-captain 11:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1486 points, T:1815, killed by a crossbow bolt, while praying 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonosmalls88 (Mon Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:28477 11:21 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Cha), 804659 points, T:33780, killed by a cloud of spores 11:23 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Hea Trt Mal Neu), 1671 points, T:5796, killed by an orc-captain 11:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:78256 (1 day, 1:29:55) 11:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2199 11:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2210 11:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Law) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:13422 11:31 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 11:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 2744 points, T:2850, killed by a soldier ant 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Mjollnir by The Lady, on T:6202 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:25988 (8:30:11) 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) genocided energy vortices, on T:26172 (8:32:39) 11:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] flint (Cav Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:18800 11:47 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 11:50 [hdf-us] [un] bismatum (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "50 shurikens", on T:101958 11:53 <@fredriq> hi 11:53 Hello @fredriq, Welcome to #hardfought 11:53 @fredriq: Message from ais523 at 2023-07-11 00:18 EDT: I found the original of That Comment, and it's much more readable than the current version: (I checked this version of the source against Hack 1.0.3, it's the same there, but this one is easier to link) 11:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3074 11:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:79019 (1 day, 1:56:10) 11:56 what does that mean 11:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3328 11:58 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:31514 11:59 fredriq: pray tell me 12:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", got "a silver dragon scale mail", on T:3488 12:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was bestowed with Magicbane by Anhur, on T:4131 12:09 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2561 (0:37:09) 12:10 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:2607 (0:38:15) 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nunnullus (Kni Hum Mal Law), 9690 points, T:9718, killed by a winter wolf cub, while praying 12:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was bestowed with Frost Brand by Anhur, on T:4297 12:12 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 12:12 -!- oh6 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:12 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:18403 12:15 <@fredriq> I don't know the codebase enough to tell, but at least that comment isn't utterly useless 12:15 !who 12:15 K2: [hdf-us] Skillfulhacks [nh370] oh6 [nh370] bismatum [un] guest99987 [dnh] flint [xnh] bleeko [ndnh] krm26 [evil] :: [hdf-eu] UmberConductor [nh343] finitelycraig [nh370] wvc [xnh] :: [hdf-au] No current players 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:12, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 12:18 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 (0:00:02) 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Trt Fem Neu), 420 points, T:1028, killed by a rabid dog 12:22 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) genocided elves on a level in The Dungeons of Doom, on T:1 (0:00:02) 12:23 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Arc Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:32273 12:24 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Arc Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:32276 12:30 [hdf-eu] [nh343] UmberConductor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had an athame named Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:4708 12:36 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:23389 12:46 !who 12:46 K2: [hdf-us] Skillfulhacks [nh370] post163 [un] hackedhead [nh4] bleeko [ndnh] :: [hdf-eu] UmberConductor [nh343] finitelycraig [nh370] mobileuser [hackm] :: [hdf-au] k2 [nh370] 12:46 wee 12:46 \o/ 12:47 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:47 [hdf-us] [nh4] Sylmare (hackedhead) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 32993 points, T:2823, killed by a rabid rat 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh4] Nabru (nabru) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1536 points, T:1369, escaped, in polyinit mode 12:50 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 12:50 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 12:53 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of water walking boots entrusted to her by Odin, on T:26427 (7:57:59) 12:59 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 13:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 13:08 -!- anselmus has joined #hardfought 13:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3170 13:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 14206 points, T:9411, killed by a gargoyle 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:25450 13:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 12 darts on an altar, on T:3725 13:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:14, killed by a kobold 13:17 [hdf-us] [spl] nabru (Pir Inf Nbn Cha), 1056 points, T:1192, killed by a hobbit 13:25 Found doc's mummy 13:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:747 13:29 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:30 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 13:30 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 13:33 [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:34283 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:34287 13:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2048 points, T:3109, killed by a soldier ant 13:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] arrow (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 1019 points, T:2449, killed by a rothe 13:49 -!- hackemslashem has joined #hardfought 13:49 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v hackemslashem] by ChanServ 13:50 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:51 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 13:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 13:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) the Oracle has been killed, on T:17613 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:35235 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Arc Dwa Fem Law) picked up the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:35237 14:06 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:09 "spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) the Oracle has been killed" sounds weird 14:10 it almost sounds like a fourk livelog 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:26923 14:18 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:32940 (8:34:48) 14:20 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Curate (level 14), on T:27511 14:29 -!- Arseniy has joined #hardfought 14:29 do any of the vanilla devs maintain their own variants? 14:30 I think bhaak still does at least some maint on Un? 14:30 Not sure how much. 14:30 ais523 maintains nethack4 14:31 "maintains" 14:32 I pulled a bugfix from FIQHack into NH4 really recently 14:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered Furfles, her faithful kitten, on T:93 14:32 but I have been struggling with burnout for several years now (in general, not just NetHack-related) and it's hard for me to do much programming at all 14:33 k was just curious 14:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 866 points, T:686, killed by a jackal, while helpless 14:33 [hdf-eu] [nh343] UmberConductor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had a war hammer named Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:8623 14:34 hard to believe a year ago i barely even knew what variants existed 14:34 I discovered the wonderful world of variants when I started to play on hdf 14:36 nh4 is currently my go-to and i'm looking for something else to try concurrently 14:37 How similar to vanilla do you want it to be? 14:37 And do you prefer 3.6/3.7 or 3.4.3? 14:38 just don't want to pick the wrong one because some of the devs sound like on the verge of retiring/quitting any sec 14:38 Hmm, what's most actively maintained at this point? dnethack maybe? EvilHack? 14:38 aren't most of them not based on 343? 14:39 NitroHack, NH4, DynaHack, Fourk, FIQHack, SporkHack, GruntHack are all 3.4.3-based. 14:39 there are several variants that are actively maintained 14:39 i'm looking at the wiki page as we speak :) 14:40 hence my questions 14:40 prob the most active would be dnh/evil/hackem/gnollhack 14:40 dNetHack and notdNetHack are 3.4.3-based too. 14:40 yup 14:40 ^ Oh right yes. 14:40 Slash'em is *older* than 3.4.3 14:40 And most of the rest are 3.6-based IIRC. 14:40 xnethack is active too 14:41 really? i thought most of them had orctown so assumed not 343 based 14:41 I think xNetHack and SpliceHack are 3.7-based 14:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] arrow (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 14:41 Orctown was introduced in a 3.4-based variant and made it to 3.6 later. 14:41 Noisytoot yes 14:41 orctown first appeared in sporkhack 14:42 x and Splice both started as 3.6-based but may be keeping up with upstream changes? 14:43 being a 343 player i probably shouldn't have too many qualms about playing an inactive variant 14:43 one of my main problems with NH4 at this point is that it's diverged too far from upstream 14:43 so any development effort has to be dedicated to one side or the other 14:43 jonadab - xnethack is mostly current with 3.7 14:43 splicehack was abandoned quite awhile ago 14:44 I think you basically have to decide between "improve game internals" and "keep up with vanilla changes" 14:44 not sure what editlevel version of 3.7 it was at before dev stopped... 29 maybe 14:44 K2: btw lol your smoker apparently has an issue with temp control, have you noticed any issues? 14:44 ais523: Indeed. 14:44 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 14:44 anselmus no i havent 14:44 and improving the game internals doesn't have a huge impact on players, so the latter is a better option if you think that keeping up with vanilla changes is a good idea 14:44 ais523: Unless you can improve game internals _in vanilla_ of course. 14:44 but i dont have a 2nd temp gauge in it either 14:45 a lot of reviews that mention high temps like 300 14:45 recent or older reviews? 14:45 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 14:46 not sure, i just started looking into an electric after a grueling 7 hour cookout 14:48 i'll keep an eye on it. havent really had a chance to use the new one yet, been rainy here 14:48 still need to break it in 14:49 i'm also still on the fence because i don't actually like char/crust and obviously sorta the point of a smoker :) 14:50 that's* 14:50 If you want to slow cook without smoke, you could always go for a crock pot :-) 14:51 ais523: why not improve game internals in vanilla? 14:51 Noisytoot: because it's a big change that typically introduces bugs without any obvious user-facing consequences 14:51 and also makes it harder to apply patches 14:52 4.3-save-system in vanilla when 14:52 so it's hard to argue the case for why you'd want to do it 14:52 lightly grilled and smoked for about 10 mins seems good enough for me 14:52 jonadab: it'd be a big job and I imagine people would complain that the saves no longer fit on a floppy disk :-D 14:52 Heh. 14:53 anselmus: Maybe more of a traditional charcoal grill then? 14:53 you would probably also need to implement a replay mode in order to get full value out of it 14:53 i am using a weber kettle 14:53 ais523: Likely, yes. 14:53 ais523: Possibly watch mode also. 14:53 (For public servers.) 14:54 except things like pulled pork/brisket are pretty much impossible on a grill 14:54 due to lack of temp control 14:54 who stores nethack saves on floppy disks? 14:55 Noisytoot: People who play NetHack in the eighties. 14:55 And early nineties maybe. 14:55 yeah i found it funny that nh4 still refers to saving to "disk" 14:55 Back when you used to keep everything on floppies that you could, because your hard drive was 10MB and only had room for the stuff that absolutely had to be on the hard drive. 14:56 does 3.7 still run on systems from the eighties? 14:57 We used to run *programs* off of floppy disks. 14:57 I would be surprised if it deed 14:57 *it did 14:57 Noisytoot: Unlikely. 14:57 Realistically, at this point, I don't think it has fit into 640K in a while. 14:58 Someone *might* be able to get the Amiga port to work? Maybe? 14:58 The DOS port works, but it uses DJGPP these days, so it can access modern amounts of RAM. 14:59 yeah temperature control is everything. why i got off of charcoal/propane 14:59 and i am not the best at cooking 15:00 just lighting the damn coals takes 30 mins 15:02 37 dropped support for a lot of old ports 15:02 reasonably so 15:03 maybe it was 36 that did that actually idk 15:04 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:35800 (9:20:47) 15:05 jonadab: the Amiga port from the 80s already used more memory than a stock Amiga 500 had 15:05 IIRC it needed at least 1 MB of RAM, better more. it ran fine with 3 MB AFAIR 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Pri Hum Mal Law), 349738 points, T:28949, killed by an invisible wraith 15:06 -!- docpi has joined #hardfought 15:07 VMS forever, though 15:08 m$ claiming that my system doesn't meet requirements for win 11, hilarious 15:08 Install GNU/Linux. 15:09 already do, and my response was to unceremoniously nuke vmware 15:11 -!- DrMockba has joined #hardfought 15:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] arrow (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2737 15:13 bhaak: Yes, but Amiga didn't have the addressing issues MS DOS had with more than 640k of RAM. 15:14 I've evaluated Win11 and determined that it's honestly not materially worse than Win10. Might even be an improvement, over 10. 15:14 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed +3 Exceptional Galadhrim Boots", on T:35988 (9:31:10) 15:14 I have Win11 on my PC at work, it's... not horrible 15:15 (also have it on a partition on my laptop, but haven't booted it in a long time) 15:15 The rumors of not being able to run it without connecting to a Microsoft account are exaggerated. You *can*, you just have to tell it you "don't know" the user's credentials. 15:15 nabru: Oh, it's horrible; it's just not *more* horrible than 10. 15:15 indeed 15:15 I've heard that the option is still there but buried several menus deep, some of which are unintuitive 15:16 Which in turn is strictly better than eight. 15:16 I skipped 8 altogether 15:17 I can't even remember which version of Windows is on here, I haven't run it in years (and also haven't ever connected it to the Internet, as I don't trust Windows with htat) 15:17 this is theoretically a dual-boot setup but I basically only boot the Linux side 15:17 nabru: That was wise. 15:17 on a previous computer, I used the Windows side primarily for building the Windows version of NH4 15:18 nabru: Honestly, I still think Seven without ongoing support is better than Eight/Ten/Eleven. 15:18 agreed 15:18 -!- DrMockba has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:18 It's a much more stable, mature product. 15:19 WSL is nice to have but doesn't make up for all the other problems. 15:20 For myself, I currently have exactly one system capable of booting Windows (10 as it happens); I mostly use it as an ebook reader. 15:21 But if I need to test a thing on Windows, I can. 15:21 THat's at home. At work, of course, I maintain Windows systems for other people. 15:22 for what it's worth, the desktop environment seems much more relevant to me in terms of using a computer than the OS/kernel 15:23 I don't care that much about the kernel, but I do care a lot about the command-line userland. 15:23 except when OS internals break and need manual intervention, which isn't that common on any OS nowadays 15:23 oh, I install GNU tools on every computer I use widely 15:23 but you can do that on Windows too 15:23 You can, but there are... issues. 15:24 Also, the window manager on Windows is absolute trash. 15:24 And replacing it is *pain* 15:24 yes, this is why I said the desktop environment's the most relevant part 15:24 I am somewhat experienced with using terrible DEs, though 15:24 even excel is pretty much mandatory on a work computer 15:25 hmm, there's a plausible argument that Excel is the only good piece of software Microsoft has ever written 15:25 The last time I used Excel on a regular basis, it was running on Windows 3.1 15:25 programs that export to excel simply don't support anything else 15:25 I do use spreadsheets, of course. 15:25 I consider most of the Microsoft Office tools inferior to, e.g., LibreOffice (which often is itself inferior to more specialised applications) 15:25 Oh, I can open Excel spreadsheets in OO.o 15:26 Excel is actually superior to is competitors, but often by not enough to actually matter 15:26 * to its competitors 15:26 -!- jess has joined #hardfought 15:26 when I need spreadsheets nowadays I normally use Gnumeric; LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org are also fine, I would have no issues using one of those instead 15:26 I don't remember Excel being *bad* when I used it, though that was way pre-ribbon; but the reason I moved away from it was budget. 15:27 Specifically, my employer doesn't have a budget for software. 15:27 oh, it isn't worth the price 15:27 Also, it's not cross-platform. 15:27 unless you can get it at a heavy discount, which is sometimes possible but usually not 15:27 We could theoretically get Education pricing, but it's still more than it's worth. 15:27 i think the issue may be macro-enabled spreadsheets 15:28 just doesn't open properly in open/libre 15:28 Ah. 15:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] playerb (Val Dwa Fem Law), 75166 points, T:23515, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 15:28 VBScript. 15:28 those were valuable to me, I did much of my "learning to program" in VBA for Excel 15:28 yep, Libre breaks spreadsheets with macros 15:28 Yeah, that would be a problem. 15:28 at work we have quite a few very hairy spreadsheets with lots of macros 15:28 other users can do with Libre, but the ones who use these spreadsheets do need Excel 15:29 I do think OO.o writer is superior to Word, at least in terms of user interface experience. 15:29 But again, the main reason I switched was budget. 15:29 I know users who loved Libre because "it looks like the old Office" (pre-Ribbon) 15:30 Well, no, that's the secondary reason. Cross-platform was the main reason. 15:30 yes – Writer handles formatting much better than Word does 15:30 I also find menus easier to find functionality in than ribbons, despite what Microsoft's market research says 15:30 One annoyance with Writer is that there's no way to un-combine table cells that have been merged, in the UI. 15:30 At least, none that I've found. 15:31 Ribbons are terrible for users who actually remember where anything is. 15:31 They provide arguably better discovery for users who *don't* remember where anything is. 15:31 tbh after switching to foss for email and web browsing at work, they've tended to be pretty buggy and way more work than i expected 15:32 There are no really *good* solutions for email that tick all boxes. There are dozens of contenders and they all have serious problems. 15:32 like certain tasks requiring specific workarounds to even work 15:33 Historically, Pegasus Mail was pretty good, but it is not cross-platform and has not kept up with certain developments. 15:33 now that's a name I haven't heard of in years 15:33 And its UI does not feel comfortable or familiar for young people these days. 15:34 Because it never moved away from MDI. 15:34 I use Evolution for email 15:34 which used to be somewhat buggy but is pretty stable nowadays 15:34 I haven't seen Evolution lately, but my early impression of it was "Oh, yuck, an Outlook clone." 15:35 my guess is some things have to reverse engineered in foss because no cooperation from m$ 15:35 to be* 15:35 hence issues 15:35 I think it has a similar relationship to Outlook as LibreOffice Writer does to Word – it's an Outlook clone from a time when Outlook was actually decent, rather than the mess it's become nowadays 15:35 Everything that *matters* with email is open-protocol and interoperable. 15:35 Microsoft wanted to embrace and extend it but could never get majority market share, because of webmail. 15:35 jonadab: Microsoft's email accounts turned off IMAP support semi-recently (a couple of years ago) 15:35 it's pdf's i've had the most problems with 15:36 so now I have to use Outlook Web Access to access mine, and the interface is terrible 15:36 ais523: Outlook was never decent. 15:36 oh, one thing Evolution does correctly that Outlook doesn't, is that it allows you to bottom-post when replying to emails 15:36 libre office writer is laughably slow, like 10 seconds to close a text document 15:37 Oh, I blame Netscape for top-posting becomming common. Though I'm sure Microsoft hasn't *improved* the situation. 15:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed xororand's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:4524 15:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 4315 points, T:4599, killed by an owlbear, while sleeping 15:37 jonadab: in order to not top-post in Outlook, you first have to find a very small button that doesn't look like a button and is easy to not notice, and then edit the ">" quote marks in by hand 15:37 anselmus: The only time I've seen OO.o writer being slow, is when it has a bunch of large images in the document. Which, yes, performance really drags in that use case. 15:37 ais523: Yikes. 15:37 and I can't find any setting to change this 15:37 are you running win? 15:38 But I'm pretty sure it was Communicator that first started top-posting by default. 15:39 sometimes it just freezes up when you switch windows 15:39 anselmus: Who, me? No, I'm on Devuan. 15:39 in Evolution, there is Composer Preferences | Replies and Forwards | Reply style, which lets you change between Outlook style top-posting, the correct way to do things, and a couple of alternatives 15:40 which is exactly where I'd expect to find the setting 15:40 i do keep my win installs clean and minimal, so there shouldn't be issues 15:40 I mean, the *correct* way to do things, is to only quote the part that's relevant to your reply. 15:40 Which means you need the ability to correctly rewrap (possibly nested) quoted text. 15:41 Which Gnus can do. Not sure what all else. 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:42, burned by molten lava 15:42 Evolution gets the rewrapping a little wrong – it will rewrap but it will also preserve single newlines in the original 15:42 so you have to edit out the newlines from the text you're quoting in order for it to rewrap properly 15:42 it does *try*, though 15:43 foss is supposed to be customizable so if you can't adjust it to your preferences then that's on them 15:44 oh, this reminds me, the Evolution devs fixed a bug when I bug-reported it 15:44 anselmus: Everything in the Gnome camp has moved to "customization is the devil" mentality. (Which is why I no longer use any of it.) 15:45 ais523: I suspect you filed a clear and detailed bug report. 15:45 which is surprising, with most programs bug reports get filed away, and then ignored, maybe the bug gets incidentally fixed eventually; maybe that happens to other bugs in Evolution too and I just got lucky 15:45 jonadab: of course, I do try to get my bug reports correct 15:45 lol i still have no idea what that gtk and qt stuff even means 15:46 anselmus: Those are two of the most widely used widget sets for X11-based systems (Linux, BSD, etc.) 15:46 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/318 15:46 i just notice that sometimes an app i want to use requires one or the other 15:46 And there are also Windows ports of both of them, and I think MacOS ports also. 15:47 anselmus: It's what they use to draw "widgets" (things like check boxes, radio buttons, scrollbars, etc.) 15:47 anselmus: they are libraries for drawing windows, dialog boxes, etc. together with all the usual components for them (form controls, file open dialogs, etc.) 15:47 so, in effect, they're libraries for writing GUI programs 15:47 Arguably, the *most* common widget set these days, is the one provided by HTML. 15:48 gnome is just an annoying name, what do gnomes have to do with desktop 15:48 the funny thing is, Windows has somehow become even *more* fragmented in terms of GUI libraries than Linux has 15:48 despite there being one in the OS 15:48 But browsers usually render those using an underlying widget library. 15:49 ais523: Well, Linux is less fragmented that way than it used to be, because users spoke up and told the developers that Xaw and Tk are trash. 15:49 like, Windows has system calls for drawing widgets! they're just considered mostly outdated nowadays and many programs use alternative libraries or roll their own 15:49 doesn't NetHack still use Xaw? 15:49 although it also has at least a Qt version, not sure about GTK/Gnome 15:49 ais523: I think there *is* a xaw port for NetHack. Dunno if anyone uses it. 15:49 ais523: *one* in the OS? I still have some programs on my windows 10 machine that give me windows 7 style file browser dialogs. and that's not even counting gimp which does its own thing. 15:50 b_jonas: Gimp uses Gtk, as you'd expect it to do. 15:50 nethack does use Xaw I think 15:50 b_jonas: on Windows it's considered usual to ship libraries with your programs, so the program probably came with a library that does windows-7-style file browser dialogs 15:50 jonadab: yes, I know, that's where gtk got its money and name 15:50 jonadab: that's like saying rogue uses curses 15:50 ais523: yes, I believe that's where it comes from 15:51 Indeed. 15:51 development for Windows is very hard because it doesn't have standard standard libraries 15:51 But NetHack also uses curses these days. 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 171 points, T:898, killed by a large kobold 15:51 on Linux, if you're writing a C program, you just link against libc 15:51 Right, on Windows you have to develop for a specific *compiler* 15:51 and this will get even more complex with windows 11. I still run windows 10 on my work laptop, but I'm starting to access remote machines with windows 11 already. 15:51 jonadab: my point is that, IIRC, rogue came first and curses was extracted from it (although it's possible I'm misremembering that incorrectly) 15:52 ais523: wait what? 15:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4 points, T:96, killed by a goblin 15:52 ais523: They were developed concurrently, I think? 15:52 curses started from rogue? 15:52 perhaps 15:52 [hdf-us] [un] bismatum (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "cloak of magic resistance", on T:102873 15:52 The people who were writing rogue actively consulted with the guy who wrote curses. 15:52 While it was all happening. 15:52 That's the story I remember reading. 15:53 I know curses is ancient, which is why it gets dibs on stupidly short names in the one global C namespace, most notably nl 15:53 but I didn't know it had to do with rogue 15:53 I assumed it was developed for some other console GUI application, like vi or a similar editor 15:54 Rogue was part of the motivation for developing it, IIRC? 15:54 Though the understanding from the start was that other things would use it too. 15:54 curses was written by Ken Arnold, who is one of the rogue developers 15:54 Ok, yes, that sounds right. 15:54 apparently some of its code was taken from an editor program that existed at the time 15:54 (I'm diving into the history atm) 15:54 Ah. 15:54 Tell me it wasn't TECO. 15:55 how does this historically related to termcap? 15:55 termcap is a rabbit hole. 15:55 jonadab: it was described as "an editor written by Bill Joy", and Bill Joy wrote vi – although it's unclear whether the editor is specifically vi or whether Bill Joy wrote two of them 15:55 ais523: Oh, hmm, interesting. 15:56 from context I think it probably was vi 15:56 or maybe an early unreleased version of it 15:56 Plausible. 15:57 was ex an existing editor over which vi was built, or were they developed together? 15:57 I was reading up on the history of Hack recently – it seems that on at least two occasions, unreleased versions got stolen by other users out of the developer's home directory 15:57 or, well, copied 15:57 was looking into un, and came across this guy, wow: https://nethackscoreboard.org/players/u/unnht.un.html 15:57 ais523: Yeah, security on multi-user systems in that era was... not like now. 15:58 every asc a 2 hour sub 20k 15:58 b_jonas: i think ex came first as an improved ed, and then it turned into vi when a screen mode interface was added to it 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 190 points, T:1228, killed by an acidic corpse 15:58 but i might be wrong about that 15:58 qt: thanks 15:58 jonadab: even nowadays, big multi-user UNIX/Linux systems tend to have world-readable home directories for some reason IME 15:59 ais523: and copies of all your browser plugin and video game software installed for each user 16:00 ais523: Yes, but now you can trivially chmod o-rwx something. 16:00 And it *works* 16:00 indeed 16:00 (Unless someone with root access wants to read your files, of course.) 16:00 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.8] 16:00 that is one of the things that root access is for, of course 16:00 rooting around in people's files 16:00 ais523: Well yes. 16:01 Root access needs to exist. 16:01 if you have a big multiuser system you need some way to be able to moderate/administrate that it is being used for its intended purpose 16:01 it was originally called "voyeur access" 16:01 You just have to be careful who you entrust it to. 16:01 but that was considered impolite 16:01 and you can't even just read passwords (or sometimes hashed passwords) of the users from a world-readable file 16:01 qt: I thought it was originally called bofh access. 16:02 yes, old multi-user unixes were funny 16:02 the bofh was a parody of a sysadmin – actual sysadmins weren't expected/intended to be quite that user-hostile in practice, even if it seemed like it sometimes 16:03 Well, yes, but the stories arose because people thought it was funny. 16:03 in berkely unix, due to the climate of the era and location, it was called the "stinking fed rat who spies on innocent left wing students" role 16:03 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a white unicorn), on T:6151 (1:56:31) 16:03 ais523: is. it's a series that's been going on for very long on https://www.theregister.com/offbeat/bofh/ . 16:03 And things are funny, when they have just a *little* bit of truth in them. 16:04 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Mal Cha), 7603 points, T:6164, killed by a white unicorn 16:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had a spellbook of levitation given to him by Anhur, on T:31654 (9:48:24) 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] petrakat (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:7462 16:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 162 points, T:580, killed by a brown mold 16:10 anyone know offhand which variants don't have purple L at castle? 16:18 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 16:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] playerb (Val Dwa Fem Law) found Sting on the floor, on T:3423 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1961 16:23 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 16:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] arrow (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 4616 points, T:5568, killed by a giant spider 16:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] playerb (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3686 16:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] playerb (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 5 darts on an altar, on T:3805 16:29 anselmus: Fourk doesn't *always* have purple L at the Castle. 16:29 Depends which Castle you get. 16:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jack (Hdr-Wiz Dro Mal Law) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:79590 16:32 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:34 !coffee 16:34 * Beholder tosses nabru a mug of cafe latte, conjured by NotTheOracle\dnt at 385 Kelvin. 16:35 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed Exceptional +3 Adamantium Full Plate Mail of Sorcery", on T:36214 (10:47:45) 16:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1375 points, T:1783, killed by a soldier ant 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Nunnullus (Tou Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 daggers on an altar, on T:3350 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1661 16:41 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:47778 16:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:2118 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:22602 16:46 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:46 @v?baby crococole 16:46 baby crococole ~2~ baby crocodile (:) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 4 | Spd: 6 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 7 | Atk: 1d4 bite physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, swims, amphibious 16:46 jonadab: i was wondering if any offered that as a tradeoff for limited wishes 16:46 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed Exceptional +3 Elven Leather Helm of Elemental Protection", on T:36307 (10:58:36) 16:46 i mean, i guess i could just play wiz 16:47 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 16:48 [hdf-eu] [nh343] UmberConductor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a salamander, on T:16701 16:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2001 16:50 anselmus: Tourist usually gets a bunch of scrolls (also, potions) from the quest, so there's a reasonable chance to find geno before the Castle. 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) found Excalibur on the floor, on T:3116 16:51 !lastgame playerb 16:51 nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/playerb/nethack/dumplog/1688999324.nh.html 16:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was bestowed with Magicbane by Anhur, on T:3122 16:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3846 16:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 4279 points, T:3608, killed by a raven 16:58 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed Belt of Storm Giant Strength", on T:36512 (11:10:05) 16:59 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:2236 16:59 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "Magic Marker", on T:36536 (11:11:30) 17:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jack (Hdr-Wiz Dro Mal Law) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:80270 17:00 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:02 jonadab: i would think that's a pretty slim chance, even with extra scrolls 17:03 and there's a difference between preparing for castle knowing there could be purple L and knowing there aren't 17:04 oh right, un is the one that originated the new castle layouts that i hate 17:04 always something 17:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 408 points, T:2363, killed by a coyote 17:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:2773 17:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3794 points, T:6274, killed by a giant bat 17:08 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Fixed Tinning Kit", on T:36658 (11:19:53) 17:09 -!- joes has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:10 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:36682 (11:22:38) 17:11 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Val Gia Fem Law) performed her first genocide (leprechauns), on T:86385 (1 day, 4:07:50) 17:12 it will be a miracle if i actually manage to start a game 17:12 <@Loggers_VIII> you’ve got a low bar for miracles 17:13 -!- theRaisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 17:13 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 17:14 lol well i only quit xnh because i got stuck in gehennom, so 17:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a gecko, on T:3771 17:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 96 points, T:469, killed by a large mimic 17:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered PureEvil, his faithful giant rat, on T:12 17:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] Jack (Hdr-Wiz Dro Mal Law) wished for "anti-clockwise metamorphosis glyph", on T:81134 17:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 377 points, T:777, killed by a manes 17:19 -!- shadowrider38 has joined #hardfought 17:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered PureEvil, her faithful kitten, on T:327 17:20 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:5608 17:31 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:35 -!- eggandhull has joined #hardfought 17:37 hmm, did vanilla ever fix the bug where the A command removes armor faster than the T command does? 17:38 (if an armor is supposed to require 5 to remove, A interprets the 5 as 5 actions, whereas T interprets it as 1 action + 5 turns which is much slower) 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:32443 (10:38:15) 17:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32445 (10:38:27) 17:46 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) refused to give up The Eye of the Aethiopica to Neferet the Green, on T:32724 (10:42:38) 17:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1526 points, T:2696, killed by a bolt of lightning zapped by himself 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 74 points, T:273, killed by Ms. Maganasipi; the shopkeeper 17:51 force bolt gone wrong. 17:52 @v?carnivorous ape 17:52 carnivorous ape (Y) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Atk: 1d4 claw physical, 1d4 claw physical, 1d8 hug physical | Align: 0 | genocidable, carnivore, infravis 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered Ellie, her faithful carnivorous ape, on T:278 17:55 faithful carnivorous ape who had a loving family and aspired to be a musician 17:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1257 points, T:916, killed by a hill orc called Baneogbanea of Unagoru 17:59 ah ha! 17:59 You find a trap on the door! 17:59 paranoid tactics finally pays off 18:00 -!- terrapin has joined #hardfought 18:01 wut: This goblin corpse tastes terrible! You feel evil and fiendish!--More-- 18:01 thought cannibalism was ok 18:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:03 "evil and fiendish" isn't necessarily a bad thing 18:04 The message for cannibalism is "You cannibal! You will regret this!" 18:04 ... You have a very bad case of stomach acid. You die... 18:05 i had 16 hp ffs 18:05 [hdf-us] [ndnh] anselmus (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 476 points, T:1172, killed by an acidic corpse 18:06 a good reminder to stick to what i know 18:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 8 points, T:63, killed by a jackal 18:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 531 points, T:1067, killed by a giant rat 18:08 in vanilla it's 1-15 HP for acidic corpses 18:09 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:09 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 18:09 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 18:10 rougelike! 18:10 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 18:10 I am amused by how often that correction is necessary and what sort of contexts it crops up in 18:12 isn't there an nhqdb entry where someone had a cat called Rougelike? 18:12 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 18:12 (amusingly it is hard for me to intentionally spell it incorrectly, my muscle-memory autocorrects it) 18:13 ooh, just had a game where NH4's floor-coloring would have helped 18:13 I couldn't find the D:1 downstairs – turned out there was a corridor tile I just hadn't seen because I hadn't stepped next to it 18:16 yes very convenient 18:17 only thing i dislike about nh4 is the remapping of loot and kicking 18:17 it's gotten me into quite a few accidents 18:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1424 points, T:2565, killed by a giant ant, while fainted from lack of food 18:20 anselmus: you can unremap that in the options 18:20 under "keymap" 18:20 IIRC there's a shortcut to put all of the yuhjklbn keys back to their vanilla meanings with number_pad:1 18:20 oh sweet 18:21 yeah it wouldn't be so bad if l and k weren't direction keys 18:23 also, oh no, I just realised the best solution to the "should wizards wear armor in the early game" issue 18:23 it's to wear the armor but unequip it when you need to cast a spell 18:25 and get killed by monsters while unequipping it 18:25 that works if you don't use attack or escape spells 18:25 I am doing this despite using attack spells 18:26 a mithril-coat only takes 1 turn to unequip, likewise for orcish helms (although at present I am just unequipping the helm due to wearing a cloak) 18:26 and only one action if you use A rather than T 18:26 I am trying to get my muscle-memory to use A for unequipping because it's faster 18:26 the only instance where i would forgo armor is if i started with magic missile 18:26 why is it faster? 18:27 or sleep 18:27 Noisytoot: logically it shouldn't be 18:27 but the reason is that A is interruptible and T is noninterruptible 18:28 for an interruptible action that takes time n, the time takes as many as n regular actions, e.g. walking n spaces 18:28 for an uninterruptible action that takes time n, the game counts one action, then leaves you helpless for n turns 18:28 which is longer because a) sometimes you take multiple actions in a turn and b) even when you don't, the latter takes 1 turn more 18:29 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Orcus, on T:48675 18:30 sad no "rewrite nethack in X language" projects have ever had much progress 18:30 if you have the skills to do that, you have the skills to write a new roguelike from scratch, which pays better 18:30 …and is faster 18:33 some people really love nethack 18:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ais523 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2315 18:34 ooh, two magic lamps at Izchak's 18:35 unfortunately I am here too early due to a trap door, so may not survive Minetown 18:36 Demo: "rewrite NetHack in modern C" worked 18:38 that's hardly a rewrite though 18:38 not much needed to change other than function signatures 18:38 the rest was valid already 18:40 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:41 -!- terrapin has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:42 [hdf-eu] [nh343] UmberConductor (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:19526 18:43 Was hoping for a bag 18:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Skillfulhacks (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2061 points, T:3719, killed by a giant bat 18:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ais523 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3429 18:50 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:48777 18:52 why is this shopkeeper not letting me out of the shop 18:52 are you invisible? 18:52 no 18:53 that's the first thing I checked 18:53 m-moving into the shk worked 18:53 so something must have been wrong with its AI 18:53 err, AI state 18:55 excuse me, mr. Shopkeeper.. m-may i m-move into you 18:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ais523 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3616 points, T:3944, killed by a pony 18:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1270 points, T:2192, killed by a gnome 18:56 OK, so that was a case where wearing the armor hurt 18:56 good to know 18:57 -!- terrapin has joined #hardfought 18:57 I messed up, should have thrown a tripe ration at it 18:58 does that pacify ponies? 18:58 yep 18:59 if you can tame monsters by throwing them food, you can pacify them by throwing them the wrong kind of food (at least in 3.4.3 – not sure how this works with monsters that became tameable more recently) 19:00 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:1330 (0:07:19) 19:03 Yeah no that doesn't work anymore 19:03 hasn't for a while I think 19:03 food ration would've pacified it 19:05 good to know 19:05 so if playing "properly" I'd have died due to lack of spoilers rather than due to not bothering to use escape items :-D 19:06 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2214 (0:12:52) 19:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] monastic (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2549 points, T:2485, killed by a white unicorn 19:11 !variant 19:11 nabru: slash 19:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] nabru (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 148 points, T:69, killed by a bat 19:15 [hdf-us] [slshm] nabru (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 452 points, T:647, killed by a hobbit 19:18 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ride (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 bg charging scroll", on T:5 (0:01:13) 19:18 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ride (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed scrolls of annihilation", on T:7 (0:01:22) 19:19 -!- Ride has joined #hardfought 19:19 !setmintc 100000 19:19 Ride: [hdf-au][hdf-eu][hdf-us] Min reported turncount for ride set to 100000 19:19 -!- Ride has quit [Client Quit] 19:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a gelatinous cube, on T:53943 19:22 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) successfully cast a spell of level 10 or higher, on T:38977 (13:28:56) 19:22 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "rod of disjunction", on T:38977 (13:29:19) 19:23 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "emerald sword", on T:38978 (13:29:52) 19:23 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "emerald sword", on T:39185 (13:30:14) 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Slayer (level 22), on T:54015 19:27 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "rod of disjunction", on T:39263 (13:34:06) 19:28 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:39480 (13:34:43) 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:36880 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Arc Dwa Fem Law) picked up the Book of the Dead, on T:36885 19:39 -!- shadowrider38 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:37119 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4350 19:47 [hdf-us] [spl] nabru (Wiz Inf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2156 19:50 [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Arc Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:37354 19:51 [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Arc Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:37362 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Smithgift (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5732 19:55 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:56 [hdf-us] [spl] nabru (Wiz Inf Fem Cha), 5746 points, T:3095, killed by a gas cloud 19:57 [hdf-us] [hackm] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 15532 points, T:9485, killed by an ogre, while sleeping 20:00 [hdf-eu] [un] rainyrat (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1041 (0:02:28) 20:02 [hdf-eu] [un] rainyrat (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1679 (0:04:40) 20:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] vor (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:18739 20:06 [hdf-eu] [un] rainyrat (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2351 (0:08:31) 20:08 [hdf-eu] [un] rainyrat (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1941 points, T:2731, killed by a giant beetle 20:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Smithgift (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by a fire elemental), on T:7794 20:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Smithgift (Val Dwa Fem Law), 9092 points, T:8062, killed by a fire elemental 20:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:554 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh343] habib (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed Demogorgon, on T:37712 20:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1368 20:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3 points, T:239, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 20:25 [hdf-eu] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Nbn Law), 0 points, T:85, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 20:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 195070 points, T:28322, killed by a succubus, while moving through the air 20:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Flench's ghost, the former Embalmer, on T:4608 20:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (Ana And Fem Neu), 13068 points, T:2700, killed by a kobold shaman 20:30 -!- arahael_ has joined #hardfought 20:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:618 20:35 -!- docpi has quit [Quit: bananaphone] 20:35 -!- arahael_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:36 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:48337 (14:42:36) 20:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:1907 20:37 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:38 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:48447 (14:45:04) 20:40 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided disenchanters, on T:48485 (14:46:37) 20:42 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Plane of the Modron, on T:48517 (14:48:46) 20:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (Ana And Fem Neu), 35872 points, T:4042, killed by a lieutenant 20:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonosmalls88 (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 speed boots", got "a pair of combat boots", on T:28945 20:48 [hdf-eu] [hackm] UristMcRaven (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 8100 points, T:8377, killed by a boiling potion 20:48 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:37476 (12:22:26) 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Urc (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4383 points, T:6388, killed by an owlbear 20:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:1828 20:52 -!- eggandhull has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2245 20:53 [hdf-us] [hackm] Frozty (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:12766 (16:04:09) 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Ixoth, on T:32399 (20:56:44) 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:32400 (20:56:51) 20:55 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Dispater, on T:37642 (12:29:00) 20:55 [hdf-eu] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 20:59 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Plane of the Modron, on T:37788 (12:33:38) 21:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonosmalls88 (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:29901 21:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:4481 21:01 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:03 -!- terrapin has quit [Quit: Cheers!] 21:05 -!- ais523 has joined #hardfought 21:05 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v ais523] by ChanServ 21:06 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:50838 21:07 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (And-Ana And Fem Neu) has already received their quest via sticky-note, on T:6358 21:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Kame (Ana And Fem Neu), 43719 points, T:6746, killed by a psychic blast 21:14 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:50964 21:15 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1997 points, T:2585, escaped 21:24 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed +3 Gown of the Archbishops", on T:38481 (12:57:42) 21:24 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:51136 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh343] stagnate (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:84715 21:27 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the Modron Primus, on T:38582 (13:01:18) 21:28 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Prime Codex, on T:38599 (13:02:02) 21:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 8157 points, T:7074, killed by a giant spider, while frozen by a potion 21:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Hea Dro Fem Neu), 697 points, T:3227, killed by a giant spider 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonosmalls88 (Mon Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:30842 21:30 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed the Modron Primus, on T:52033 (15:29:22) 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonosmalls88 (Mon Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:30842 21:31 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Prime Codex, on T:52060 (15:30:07) 21:37 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:52291 (15:36:08) 21:44 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Jubilex, on T:52461 (15:42:58) 21:50 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:39687 (13:23:45) 21:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3291 points, T:2978, killed by a gnome, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 21:52 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:39707 (13:26:11) 21:53 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:52856 (15:51:27) 21:53 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:52857 (15:51:28) 21:53 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Geryon, on T:39715 (13:26:56) 21:54 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Jubilex, on T:39750 (13:27:52) 21:54 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:52153 21:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1413 22:00 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:53270 (15:58:36) 22:05 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Hellish Pastures, on T:53401 (16:03:30) 22:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1106 points, T:2245, killed by a soldier ant 22:06 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:40214 (13:39:53) 22:07 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:40231 (13:40:40) 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonosmalls88 (Mon Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:32213 22:09 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Yacc, on T:53612 (16:08:18) 22:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] vor (Mad Hum Mal Una), 1062107 points, T:35926, escaped 22:12 !lastgame 22:12 Noisytoot: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/v/vor/dnethack/dumplog/1669519143.dnh.txt :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nmlkj/nethack/dumplog/1689126740.nh.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1688881979.evil.html 22:17 -!- StivRich1rds has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:17 -!- StivRichards has joined #hardfought 22:17 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Hellish Pastures, on T:40795 (13:51:25) 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] arthur (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 7910 points, T:14030, killed by an ogre 22:21 [hdf-us] [gnoll] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1780 points, T:53790, strangled to death by a giant python 22:22 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Death, on T:52466 22:24 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Yacc, on T:40973 (13:58:16) 22:28 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 22:30 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 4301095 points, T:52550, killed by Famine, while fainted from lack of food (with the Amulet) 22:31 !lastgame 22:31 Noisytoot: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bleeko/notdnethack/dumplog/1688820140.ndnh.txt :: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nmlkj/nethack/dumplog/1689126740.nh.html :: [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1688881979.evil.html 22:31 -!- terrapin has joined #hardfought 22:39 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ardub (Bar Cen Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:33888 (22:18:14) 22:40 The death ray hits Famine. Famine reaches out, and your body shrivels. 22:40 what is this nonsense 22:45 Yes, I'm wondering about that too. I shattered an antimagic rift a bit prior, so its either that or Famine was made immune. 22:46 I found out about Famines ranged hunger attack the hard way. 22:47 was this your first asc attempt? 22:52 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1210 (0:11:43) 22:52 [hdf-us] [nh343] stagnate (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:87435 22:53 <@shadow_rider> im pretty sure famine is immune 22:53 <@shadow_rider> death wand never worked for me 22:53 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the Tarrasque, on T:41097 (14:26:59) 22:54 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:1315 (0:13:43) 22:54 nice easter egg 23:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:34359 (3:13:54) 23:03 really seems like you could take any random property of a monster or item and manipulate it arbitrarily 23:03 green mold, acid splashback melts metal armor 23:04 there is no such thing as balance 23:04 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ardub (Bar Cen Mal Neu) killed Lolth, on T:34538 (22:43:55) 23:09 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:41551 (14:42:41) 23:10 anselmus: Yea, for ndnh. Got pretty far in June 2022, thought I'd give it another try. I had a lot of fun, but didn't expect the riders to behave differently. 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:36649 (3:23:02) 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) genocided green slimes, on T:36650 (3:23:07) 23:11 [hdf-us] [4k] Crispy (recuerdo) (Shi Val Fem Neu), 26280 points, T:46040, killed by an Olog-hai 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] vor (Kni Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:22204 23:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Con Dro Mal Cha) had a pair of cloth gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Lolth, on T:37380 (3:25:21) 23:15 Killed death 3-4 times, but I was doing enough damage to one-shot him. I guess he now does famine and pest attacks too. Glad I didn't find that out. 23:15 <@shadow_rider> anselmus: it’s not really unbalanced because dnh gives you so many op items and artifacts that not being able to death wand a rider isn’t unfair 23:15 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenaghu, on T:41679 (14:49:18) 23:16 Its not unfair, just surprising coming from vanilla. And the ranged famine also caught me by surprise. 23:16 <@shadow_rider> bleeko’s death was a matter of inexperience with this specific game, no different than any other nethack mechanic 23:16 <@shadow_rider> that’s a brutal way to go tho 😢 23:17 Yea, not the first time famine has sucker punched me, but its been a while. 23:19 hdf-us will be down for a few minutes around midnight EDT or so, some quick necessary maintenance 23:21 I'll tell you though, that Gehenom revamp is a challenge. Had to really work, even with a powerhouse barb optimized for demon damage. 23:21 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Rog Dro Fem Cha), 6501 points, T:4405, killed by a wand 23:21 Lot of neat stuff there 23:22 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:26 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:42001 (15:00:15) 23:28 <@shadow_rider> dnh demons are scary 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] vor (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:22743 23:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful jaguar, on T:43226 23:34 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed Scrolls of Supreme Diabolism", on T:42110 (15:07:43) 23:35 I had a pretty good fight against Dispater and Mammon. Avoided Demo and Asmo. 23:37 Also ran into a few Ancients of Death that were a challenge, but I was smoking most of the normal ones. 23:37 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:42231 (15:11:25) 23:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1248 23:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) permanently converted to chaotic, on T:1273 23:39 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Tou Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Orcrist by The Lady, on T:42342 (15:13:12) 23:42 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ardub (Bar Cen Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:35491 (23:21:06) 23:42 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ardub (Bar Cen Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:35491 (23:21:16) 23:42 -!- arahael_ has joined #hardfought 23:43 -!- Bleeko has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:44 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:8150 (1:09:10) 23:45 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 23:45 [hdf-us] [un] k3ut0i (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Dragon Caves, on T:33754 (9:25:41) 23:46 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 454 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:58257 23:52 [hdf-us] [un] k3ut0i (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:34058 23:56 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh343] stagnate (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:91674