00:00 -!- leah2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 248 points, T:218, killed by a small mimic 00:01 cathartes, back to more vanilla-ish things: where are roles' initial and max skill levels set? 00:04 sike, figured it out - still u_init.c but have to readjust mentally 00:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5804 00:08 [hdf-us] [evil] xialg (Val Hum Fem Neu) genocided alhoons, on T:100571 (1 day, 17:52:25) 00:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 17625 points, T:6143, killed by a giant zombie 00:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 7949 points, T:5013, killed by an ochre jelly 00:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered Sugar, her faithful kitten, on T:7 (0:02:08) 00:13 -!- leah2 has joined #hardfought 00:16 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2376 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] vor (Mon Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby silver dragon, on T:13429 00:25 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1942 (0:14:44) 00:25 [hdf-us] [4k] cpittman (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +5 fireproof cloak of magic resistance", on T:30001 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] kekkashi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4383 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2244 points, T:3244, killed by a hill orc 00:31 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] parasite (Cav Inc Fem Law) was given Narya, on T:160842 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] kekkashi (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2385 points, T:4491, killed by a bolt of cold zapped by a kobold lord 00:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:3369 (0:30:30) 00:43 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:43 i thought i fucked our clan but i see merlek missed a last minute broken conducts too 00:46 we lost by 1 game on either ascensions per day or broken conducts 00:46 yeah or if someone had just told me to wait one more today to ascend 00:47 or if I handled that water nymph better yesterday 00:47 but then shadow seemed to be just toying with us 00:49 [hdf-us] [ace] technillogue (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1381 points, T:28, quit 00:49 but yes in my excitement over a successful dfv i forgot genoless 00:49 a fitting end to futility 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh343] stagnate (Val Dwa Fem Law), 428 points, T:1312, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 01:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1271 points, T:1832, killed by a bolt of cold zapped by herself 01:01 <@cpittman> I'm not sure what to do here (fourk). I searched every square 20 times on the left wall, tried digging through the floor, tried using the pickaxe on each square of the left walls. https://0x0.st/H1rx.png 01:01 <@cpittman> I could probably squeeze through that corner if I threw my bag of holding through it but I don't want to get stuck on the other side 01:02 [hdf-au] [evil] Orcranger (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:10045 (2:32:17) 01:03 Depends on how much of your current inventory weight is in the bag specifically 01:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Orcranger (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a mithril dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:10095 (2:34:56) 01:08 <@cpittman> Enough that it worked. I'll just have to throw my bag each time 01:08 Yeah, BoH protects against breakage from that so unless you're in a dire situation it won't hurt 01:10 <@cpittman> Hmm. I had a black pudding pet that split. We got separated on this level and I accidentally attacked one while trying to escape hezrou stink. Now all of them are hostile. 01:11 <@cpittman> Oh, maybe not. One of them is peaceful 01:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4468 (1:01:20) 01:13 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:15 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 01:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4843 (1:22:24) 01:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] vor (Mon Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:15387 01:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 203 points, T:928, killed by a fox 01:48 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:23377 02:02 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2663 (1:09:50) 02:06 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ardub (Val Cen Fem Neu) destroyed joes' ghost, the former Padawan, on T:2746 (1:13:33) 02:06 -!- ch3ckd0wn has quit [Quit: terminated!] 02:10 [hdf-us] [4k] cpittman (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "3 blessed potions of gain ability", on T:32005 02:11 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Enchanter (level 14), on T:23617 02:11 [hdf-us] [4k] cpittman (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of flying", on T:32011 02:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:11031 02:19 [hdf-us] [4k] cpittman (Bar Orc Mal Cha) unlocked the auto-wear option by descending the stairs in the Valley of the Dead, on T:32061 02:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3803 02:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:3806 02:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8165 (2:16:54) 02:34 do variants that use positive numbers for ac treat ac any differently? 02:36 <@shadow_rider> from what i remember i don’t think so 02:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:8540 (2:25:52) 02:36 <@shadow_rider> the first 10 defense still goes to to hit or whatever i am fairly sure 02:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:8563 (2:26:35) 02:37 so fixing something that wasn't broken 02:37 <@shadow_rider> in the case i’m wrong don’t quote me 02:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:8565 (2:26:52) 02:37 <@shadow_rider> but i’m the case i’m right quote me and give me all the credit 02:38 was destroying our happiness not enough for you 02:39 <@shadow_rider> ? 02:39 <@shadow_rider> what did i do? 02:41 just being dramatic :p 02:42 <@shadow_rider> lol what 02:42 clearly you guys wanted it more 02:42 <@shadow_rider> i’m not following 02:47 does fourk have orctown? 02:51 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:962 (0:32:20) 02:53 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1101 (0:33:41) 02:53 <@cpittman> Fourk has some level in Gehennom with about 50 water trolls and 50 couatls. I don't recal running into orc town yet 02:54 <@cpittman> Also think I picked up 100 scrolls on that level 02:55 <@cpittman> 6 scrolls of genocide. It's getting to the point where I could genocide everything possible 03:02 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 03:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8466 03:07 that doesn't too...no that sounds bad, apeshit bad 03:09 <@cpittman> Oh, the other 3rd of the monsters on that level were black lights 03:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a leocrotta), on T:9209 03:10 I have to admit that sounds more than a little ass 03:11 wasn't he the same guy who came up with that nondiggable unlit minesend that made you continually fall into water 03:12 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:25904 03:12 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found the Eye of the Aethiopica carried by a monster, on T:25904 03:13 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25907 03:15 <@cpittman> Might become a librarian, with these 30 scrolls of identify 😄 or weaponsmith with 14 enchant weapon 03:16 takes around 22 - 26 or more ?o enchant weapon to make a stack of +9 darts/arrows 03:17 and a shitload of darts/arrows to start with too :D 03:18 <@cpittman> me barbarian. me have slashing stick and pointy stick 03:18 bit of luck helps, but less than you might think 03:21 think he's using cleaver 03:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 7908 points, T:9890, killed by a white unicorn 03:21 slashy thing 03:22 <@cpittman> Just a plain +7 axe and +7 silver saber 03:22 that works 03:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:1 03:24 <@cpittman> Not sure if silver axes are a thing. That'd be perfect 03:25 Might not be in 4k 03:25 idk 03:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] kekkashi (Sam Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Snickersnee by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:7319 03:28 <@cpittman> Might be a little much for barbarians since they can cleave with any axe if they're skilled enough 03:34 <@cpittman> Whoops. 3 water + 1 holy water = 2 holy water, 3 water + 1 unholy water = 4 unholy water 03:35 ...that doesn't seem right 03:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Magicbane by Thoth, on T:1423 03:41 -!- viryanah has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 799 points, T:2512, killed by a kitten 03:47 <@cpittman> 51 AC 03:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] kekkashi (Sam Hum Mal Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:8539 03:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] kekkashi (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Oracle, on T:8566 03:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 450 points, T:1138, killed by a dwarf 03:57 [hdf-us] [hackm] anselmus (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 1780 points, T:4463, killed by an ice vortex 03:58 ok so an ice vortex is not an ice vortex 03:58 more like ice elemental 03:59 @?ice vortex 03:59 ice vortex (v) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 20 | Res: cold sleep poison petrification | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 1d6 engulf cold | Align: 0 | genocidable, flies, breathless, mindless, infravis, passes-bars, vegan 03:59 compare to hack'em monst.c 03:59 annnnnnd it's literally the same 04:00 it was doing some sort of passive attack 04:00 well it's not listed there 04:00 lemme poke around more 04:01 ...you sure you didn't just get shredded due to the engulf 04:01 it can hurt without cold res and illithid wizards are frail as shit 04:02 [hdf-eu] [fh] FIQ (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the wizard of FIQ, the former Evoker, on T:870 04:02 all i know is i hit it quite a few times with staff 04:02 there were a lot of messages about cold 04:02 <@fredriq> "The large cat eats a wizard corpse named FIQ." 04:02 then i died 04:02 <@fredriq> should I be concerned 04:03 !lastgame anselmus 04:03 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/anselmus/hackem/dumplog/1685411946.hackem.html 04:03 "You are freezing to death!" 04:03 seems pretty straightforward 04:04 -!- Guest66 has joined #hardfought 04:04 i feel like we've had this convo before, oh right dust vortex 04:05 ie things i never die to in vanilla 04:05 it also cut off the first engulfing in which i also landed multiple hits 04:05 even though they do p. much the same thing in vanilla 04:06 shrug maybe it just has more hp 04:06 doesn't seem like the whacks did much damage 04:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 7904 points, T:2846, killed by a drider 04:06 what spells did you have 04:07 just force bolt but was wearing banded mail for negative ac 04:08 was teleportation ID'd? 04:08 yes but again i figured it had to be almost dead 04:08 since i've never had to resort to that in vanilla 04:09 can we just agree that hackem is "hard" 04:10 I mean I don't disagree but I could probably cite better evidence than getting rolled by v 04:10 well you saw how many times i hit it 04:10 what else do you need 04:10 with a staff, granted 04:11 <@cpittman> "You see here a statue of an island nymph named Aphrodite." - Would not have wanted to fight this version of Aphrodite. I genocided them after the 2nd island nymph 04:11 it's servicable but not all that great 04:11 how often do you train daggers playing wiz 04:11 are you teaching me nethack hehe 04:11 I'm just considering all the options 04:12 i don't do daggers 04:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] killer (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) found Fire Brand in a shop, on T:1975 04:12 first time for everything 04:12 cbus: i demand an audit of ice vortex! 04:13 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 04:13 on that note anyone got a hackem .rcfile I can borrow 04:13 [hdf-eu] [fh] FIQ (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 24669 points, T:1829, killed by a pony 04:14 <@fredriq> aren't island nymphs pretty much harmless? 04:14 <@fredriq> YANI: Covetous nymph 04:14 -!- Guest66 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:14 <@cpittman> "island nymph" is different than nymph on Medusa's island. 04:15 <@fredriq> They covet bags of holding and has FIQHack-style AI 🙂 04:15 <@fredriq> meaning they'll gladly loot bags and zap you with all wands 04:15 <@fredriq> @cpittman oh? 04:15 fiqqing fiqhack 04:16 <@fredriq> I thought island nymph was just hardier water nymphs 04:16 <@fredriq> at least in 4k 04:16 <@fredriq> maybe I was mistaken 04:16 -!- joes is now known as ajh 04:16 <@cpittman> They are, but I had so much trouble chasing down the first two that I genocided 'n' 04:17 <@jannehmp> @k21971 There's now a new 4.1.2 release of GnollHack (Build 2), which has quite a few new features and it also fixes the recent bug with spell component mixing. In particular, I have added HTML dumplogs, livelog, whereis file and wishtracker in the same format as they were in EvilHack (HTML Dumplogs have been changed a bit to work both online and offline, though). It would be great if you could install the new version of GnollHack on Hardfought and 04:17 also see if the new features work as intended. 04:17 <@fredriq> "changed to work both offline and online" what does this mean in practice? 04:17 <@fredriq> plain html files can be opened offline without issues just fine 04:17 @4k?island nymph 04:17 island nymph (n) | Lvl: 7 | Diff: 0 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 60 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Atk: 0d0 claw item steal, 0d0 claw seduce | Align: 0 | genocidable, swims, regen, seeinvis, tele, infravis 04:17 @4k?water nymph 04:17 water nymph (n) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 0 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 30 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 6 | Atk: 0d0 claw item steal, 0d0 claw seduce | Align: 0 | genocidable, swims, infravis, blinks away 04:17 @?water nymph 04:17 water nymph (n) | Lvl: 3 | Diff: 5 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 20 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 9 | Atk: 0d0 claw item steal, 0d0 claw seduce | Align: 0 | genocidable, swims, tele, infravis 04:17 for your convenience 04:18 <@jannehmp> The HTML dumplogs in EvilHack seem to download the CSS file from the Internet 04:18 <@fredriq> wait, claw seduce? 04:18 <@fredriq> isn't that the succubus attack 04:18 <@fredriq> @jannehmp Oh yeah that's silly 04:18 <@fredriq> Better to have it in a