00:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:15514
00:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2542
00:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2678 points, T:3018, killed by a kitten
00:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:16586
00:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:16634
00:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 1057 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:16825
00:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Mon Dop Fem Cha), 6713 points, T:2276, killed by the Rat King
00:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:17182
00:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:17185
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01:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Sorcerer (level 18), on T:18037
01:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12701 (3:29:02)
01:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Magic Marker", got "a magic marker", on T:18197
01:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 Blessed scrolls of genocide", got "2 scrolls labeled ASHPD SODALG", on T:18223
01:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:18223
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01:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Dwa Fem Law) averted death (suffocated by a gelatinous cube), on T:13361 (3:37:12)
01:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Snickersnee by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:4733
01:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:18335
01:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:18393
01:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Werebane by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:6165
01:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "sil sil sil", on T:6446
01:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful winged gargoyle, on T:19030
01:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] Kewl (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 14343 points, T:590, poisoned by a little dart
01:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7752
01:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found Trollsbane on the floor, on T:19292
02:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh13d] Kewl (Wiz Mal), 50 points, T:20, homunculus
02:05 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] misanthrope (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 569 points, T:1954, killed by an anti-magic implosion
02:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful crocodile, on T:19928
02:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful panther, on T:19938
02:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful elf-lord, on T:19942
02:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful orc mummy, on T:19954
02:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful orc mummy, on T:19954
02:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful energy vortex, on T:19970
02:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Mon Dop Fem Cha), 19995 points, T:4463, killed by a jaguar, while helpless
02:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful demilich, on T:19977
02:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered Jaeger, his faithful large dog, on T:3383
02:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1744 points, T:3570, killed by a hill orc
02:21 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] misanthrope (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 307 points, T:1510, killed by a brown mold
02:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:20417
02:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:20419
02:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Dwa Fem Law), 38122 points, T:16930, killed by a soldier ant, while praying
02:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:20569
02:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 3187 points, T:1884, killed by a giant spider
02:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:20720
02:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2841 points, T:4145, killed by a gas spore's explosion
03:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:20737
03:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:817 (0:08:01)
03:12 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [fh] Wiha (OmNyomNyom) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 7443 points, T:268, killed by a jackal
03:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a red dragon), on T:20770
03:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a jabberwock), on T:20776
03:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 616205 points, T:20780, killed by a jabberwock
03:17 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] misanthrope (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 235 points, T:677, killed by a hobbit
03:18 <rld> <@hackemslashem> Will we be seeing an influx of new nethack players because of the recent wotc drama? I don't play much d&d so I'd be interested to hear from ppl who do.
03:20 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] misanthrope (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 290 points, T:269, killed by a dwarf
03:21 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] misanthrope (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:21, killed by a water elemental of Thoth
03:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Wolfechu (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 247 points, T:761, killed by a giant mimic
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03:38 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] misanthrope (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1234 points, T:2070, quit
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04:07 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:28490 (7:18:20)
04:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 6975 points, T:4133, killed by a yeti
04:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 159 points, T:610, killed by a dart
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04:30 <oh6> NetHack is filmed in front of an undead studio audience.  Konnichi wa oh6, the human Samurai, welcome back to NetHack!
04:30 <stenno> hackemslashem: i doubt it
04:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful Aleax, on T:9021
04:32 <oh6> Water gushes forth from the overflowing fountain!  You drown the dwarf.  You hear the studio audience applaud!
04:32 <oh6> uuuugh
04:32 <stenno> lmao
04:32 <stenno> (sorry)
04:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Ogresmasher by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:9416
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05:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed lurchy's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:12487
05:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Kontroller's ghost, the former Bachelor, on T:12517
05:22 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [fh] Wiha (OmNyomNyom) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 45406 points, T:12741, killed by a bolt of fire
05:24 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [nh370] misanthrope (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1304 points, T:2998, killed by a large mimic
05:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] n000b (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Sorcerer (level 18), on T:29076
05:41 <NetSysFire> oh6: why undead?
05:44 <paxed> hallu
05:48 <stenno> as indicated by the studio audience
05:48 <stenno> er yes, stating what has been stated, sorry
05:49 * stenno drinks another coffee
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06:22 <stenno> what does 'editlevel 70' mean on HDF in the context: 'NetHack 370-hdf has been updated (editlevel 70)'
06:22 <stenno> oh i see 
06:22 <stenno> its some constant in include/patchlevel.h
06:23 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law), 1522 points, T:959, quit
06:23 <stenno> random ice square in the starting room lol
06:39 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2974
06:39 <stenno> was lowkey hoping for orctown lol
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07:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 39 points, T:109, killed by a shuriken
07:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Offler, on T:901 (0:04:27)
07:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1182 (0:06:31)
07:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha) had a blessed wooden morning star entrusted to him by Offler, on T:1456 (0:08:18)
07:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 2070 points, T:1939, killed by a dwarf lady
07:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 546 points, T:1253, killed by a manes
07:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Con Ith Mal Cha), 446 points, T:889, killed by a steel dagger
07:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3614 (1:23:56)
07:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Con Ith Mal Cha), 274 points, T:496, dragged downstairs by an iron ball
07:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Gollum, on T:3941 (1:26:57)
08:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Con Ith Mal Cha), 780 points, T:741, killed by a brown mold
08:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:4241 (1:34:08)
08:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 838 points, T:297, killed by a gnoll cleric
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08:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Ith Mal Una), 343 points, T:917, killed by a water demon
08:15 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:3
08:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 6379 points, T:4444, killed by a panther
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08:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5746 (1:54:06)
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08:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a stiletto entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:6160 (2:00:14)
08:33 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found Orcrist on the floor, on T:1924
08:34 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Cha), 14517 points, T:4271, killed by an Uruk-hai
08:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Pri Trt Fem Law), 638 points, T:1174, killed by a rabid rabbit
08:38 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2371
08:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 453 points, T:773, killed by a small mimic
08:45 <stenno> luxistrats really made me appreciate orctown
08:45 <stenno> now i think that orctown can just win you the game on its own
08:47 <cbus> what strategy?
08:48 <stenno> go to mines end, get luckstone, go to orctown, get max luck and crowned by saccing _all_ the orcs
08:48 <stenno> gg
08:48 <Andrio>  And hope you don't die to poison.
08:49 <stenno> yeah i already got PR and i also got a genstore in the main DoD
08:49 <stenno> so it would have been really good here
08:50 <Andrio> Noice.
08:51 <cbus> I am sceptical, maybe for speed runs
08:51 <cbus> extremely risky
08:51 <stenno> but alas i got normal minetown, however izzie has a magic lamp so thats nice too
08:51 <stenno> cbus: its not risky if you know what you are doing
08:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3503
08:51 <stenno> of course there is always the risk of the lower mines, true
08:52 <stenno> polytraps to be precise
08:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Cav Kob Mal Neu), 1828 points, T:1752, killed by a baby green dragon
08:54 <hothraxxa> there are strategies for the poly traps. wear a disposable cloak and armor, CHARRRRGE!
08:57 <stenno> more like, a hostile gnome walks into it and turns into an arch-lich
08:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:38478
09:04 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1363 points, T:2433, killed by a soldier ant
09:06 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 18 points, T:56, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a potion
09:07 <hothraxxa> nah that never happens
09:07 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2204 points, T:4228, killed by a soldier ant, while being frightened to death
09:07 <nabru> !lastgame DoktorL
09:07 <Beholder> nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DoktorL/nethack/dumplog/1674911622.nh.html
09:11 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 401 points, T:1175, killed by a gnome lord
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09:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Val Cen Fem Neu), 2476 points, T:1415, burned by molten lava
09:13 <Arseniy> Has Elbereth been nerfed again in 3.7? I just got attacked by a bunch of soldier ants after engraving correctly.
09:14 <hackemslashem> If they are fleeing and have no valid spot, they might attack you. 
09:14 <hackemslashem> As for why, not sure!
09:15 <NetSysFire> they do try to flee.. into your body
09:15 <Arseniy> but that wasn't the case in 3.6 I'm pretty sure
09:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold
09:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed her first annihilation (illithids), on T:1 (0:00:04)
09:15 <Arseniy> or I would've noticed by now
09:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of annihilation
09:15 <hackemslashem> Correct
09:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2 points, T:28, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
09:16 <stenno> if a monster flees from elbereth, elbereth will get smudged
09:17 <stenno> even perma-e iirc
09:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Moria, on T:39744 (9:56:38)
09:18 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 489 points, T:882, killed by a little dog
09:18 <hackemslashem> That was only 3.6.0 I thnink
09:18 <Arseniy> that's not it, I re-checked after getting attacked
09:18 <hackemslashem> Or .1, but that change was retracted
09:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 640 points, T:330, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
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09:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Durin's Bane, on T:39949
09:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Nob Elf Mal Cha), 326 points, T:147, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
09:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [fh] *rafl (post163) (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
09:21 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] post163 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide
09:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:2, killed by a falling object
09:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 7 points, T:89, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
09:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1
09:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 20 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of earth
09:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Hob Mal Neu), 253 points, T:79, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
09:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 152 points, T:318, killed by a goblin
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09:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 439 points, T:2096, killed by a jackal
09:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:4, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
09:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Elf Nbn Neu), 7 points, T:28, slipped while mounting a saddled baby violet dragon
09:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 275879 points, T:21706, quit
09:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Giantslayer bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:40913 (10:13:53)
09:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 890 points, T:993, killed by an iguana
09:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:41007
09:38 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2608 points, T:2045, killed by a panther
09:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Brd Inc Mal Neu), 4550 points, T:1269, killed by a watch captain
09:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Inf Hum Fem Una), 89 points, T:139, killed by a fox
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09:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:14214
09:42 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 280 points, T:651, killed by Ms. Brienz; the shopkeeper
09:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a water moccasin, on T:9639 (2:50:14)
09:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Fla Dwa Fem Law), 353 points, T:933, killed by a giant mimic
09:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Blackmarket, on T:41958 (10:25:44)
09:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:199
09:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 92 points, T:202, killed by a jackal
09:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) stole 14662 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Wonotobo's general store, on T:10264 (2:57:54)
09:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:15988
09:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:16049
09:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 162 points, T:1272, killed by a giant rat, while fainted from lack of food
10:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
10:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Imanity (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1043 points, T:1558, killed by a small mimic
10:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 3 points, T:109, killed by a jackal
10:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Mad Hum Mal Cha), 4510 points, T:2389, killed by a gnome king
10:07 <nabru> !whereis dragonsidedd
10:07 <Beholder> nabru: [hdf-us] DragonSidedD [nh370]: (Mon Hum Mal Cha) T:16783 The Dungeons of Doom level: 11
10:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 49901 points, T:17208, killed by a troll
10:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3764
10:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Sam Gia Mal Law), 166852 points, T:32348, killed by a gold dragon
10:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 39296 points, T:13574, killed by an energy vortex
10:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 585 points, T:958, killed by Gollum
10:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:43810 (11:08:50)
10:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided arch-liches, on T:43811 (11:08:58)
10:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided master liches, on T:43811 (11:09:04)
10:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Imanity (Ran Elf Mal Cha) found Frost Brand on the floor, on T:2384
10:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
10:37 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:3329
10:39 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Imanity (Ran Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3054
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10:41 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Imanity (Ran Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3285
10:52 <stenno> i think i will touch nodehack again soonish
10:52 <stenno> iteration-helpers is at stage-3 now, and ljharb is working on a polyfill right now
10:53 <stenno> i want to use them for nodehack
10:54 <Stella> weird, my route to eu.hardfought.org seems to be fucked
10:55 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu), 49 points, T:64, killed by a water moccasin
10:55 <Stella> Telekom sucks so hard
10:55 <stenno> i had one or two little lagspikes earlier
10:55 <Stella> hah, just what i thought, it's the ipv6 routing
10:55 <Stella> ssh -4 connects immediately
10:55 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Cha), 35 points, T:105, killed by a water moccasin
10:55 <Stella> ipv6 doens't exist in this backwards country
10:55 <Stella> smh
10:56 <stenno> telekom dns also sometimes randomly just dies
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11:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Pri Hlf Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:5509
11:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 7888 points, T:8788, killed by a barrow wight, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze
11:05 <Demo> yeeehaw nodehack
11:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] Kewl (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 40 points, T:91, killed by a bolt of lightning
11:07 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Law), 818 points, T:2479, killed by an acid blob
11:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:52122
11:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:52123
11:12 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Cha), 588 points, T:1354, killed by a dwarf
11:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, killed by kicking a wall
11:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [gh] Kewl (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 587 points, T:1148, killed by a rothe
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11:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Grayswandir by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:14330
11:24 <oh6> one of those games where you get pelted with artifacts
11:26 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [hackm] dolores (Nec Ith Fem Cha), 962 points, T:1185, killed by a chicken
11:26 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Stella (Val Dwa Fem Law), 616 points, T:1415, killed by a jackal
11:26 <Stella> wups
11:26 <stenno> Demo: have you checked iteration-helpers?
11:26 <Stella> dis game sure is tough
11:26 * Stella gota take a break
11:26 <stenno> Demo: https://github.com/tc39/proposal-iterator-helpers
11:26 <stenno> Stella: ikr
11:27 <stenno> almost died twice already before hitting minetown
11:27 <stenno> is it actually because of the spear :o
11:27 <Stella> do i get clubmate and order pizza and just play nethack
11:27 <Stella> stenno: yah the spear is bullshit
11:28 <Stella> but dwarvish isn't super bad tho
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11:28 <Stella> d8/48
11:28 <stenno> :D
11:28 <Stella> er
11:28 <Stella> d8/d8
11:28 <stenno> 48 flat dmg against large
11:28 <stenno> aw
11:28 <stenno> ok
11:28 <Stella> tbf longsword only does more dmg to large
11:28 <Demo> damn then maybe id use iterators in js
11:28 <Stella> its more it delays access to Excal
11:29 <Stella> unless you luck into an early longsword
11:29 <Demo> stella: poison is bad for you
11:29 <Demo> pizza is poison
11:29 <Stella> is it?
11:29 <Demo> yes, it is a trick to get you to eat bread
11:29 <Stella> guess i better not eat it then
11:29 <Stella> is bread bad
11:29 <Stella> i thought bread was good
11:29 <Stella> it tastes pretty good
11:29 <Demo> and bread is meant to feed peasants
11:29 <Stella> >:O
11:29 <Stella> nobody told me that
11:29 <stenno> bruh
11:29 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu), 2832 points, T:1855, killed by a gnome
11:29 <Stella> thanks for enlightening me
11:29 <Demo> you should only be eating the most exquisite foods
11:29 <Stella> like what
11:29 <Demo> like the greenest of grass
11:29 <stenno> bread is the feast for kings
11:29 <Stella> Demo: hm true
11:30 <Stella> that makes sense
11:30 <stenno> Demo: wait are you actually a cow
11:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Stormbringer by Huan Ti, on T:5839
11:30 <Stella> a lot of sense
11:30 <Demo> fresh lawn clippings
11:30 <stenno> i always knew it
11:30 * Stella emits moo
11:30 <stenno> `cowsay fresh lawn clippings`
11:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Mon Hum Mal Law), 1522 points, T:2885, killed by a giant mimic
11:30 <Stella> lol
11:30 <Stella> stenno i did a bad thing
11:31 <stenno> like what
11:31 <Stella> i bought tobacco cigarettes
11:31 <stenno> cigarettes?
11:31 <stenno> waste of money
11:31 <Stella> yes
11:31 <stenno> buy normal tobacco instead
11:31 <Stella> no that's also bad
11:31 <stenno> oh
11:31 <stenno> dont buy any tobacco
11:31 <stenno> bad Stella 
11:31 <Stella> yes, bad Stella smh
11:31 <Stella> ._.
11:31 * Stella shame
11:32 <rebatela> i quit this past summer but i'm on the lozenge now
11:32 <rebatela> whats up stella 
11:33 <stenno> WHATS UPPERCASE STELLA
11:33 <Stella> oh, y'know, the usual stuff; working, partying, building friendships and working hard to restructure my character
11:33 <Stella> how about you
11:35 <rebatela> same (other than working) 
11:38 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [hackm] dolores (Nec Ith Fem Cha), 622 points, T:951, killed by a gas spore's explosion
11:42 <Demo> stenno, is there any way to do lazy iteration over sets in JS without this proposed functionality?
11:42 <stenno> not to my knowledghe
11:42 <stenno> -h
11:42 <stenno> streams behave similar
11:42 <Demo> ok. i dont know how to either and it was really annoying for some later aoc last month
11:44 <stenno> stream composition is almost the same (but the interface is kind clunky imo)
11:45 <stenno> https://nodejs.org/api/stream.html#streamcomposestreams
11:45 <stenno> and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Streams_API/Concepts#pipe_chains in the browser
11:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning
11:50 * crunchbubba reads scrollback amusedly
11:51 <stenno> crunchbubba: i have seen your vt_tiledata adventures are progressing?
11:52 <crunchbubba> stenno, looking  at vt_tiledata but not remotely being far enough along (yes, progressing very slowly) for it to matter, will the tiledata tell me in advance that some unknown bag is BoH or tricks? there are different glyphs for each type
11:52 <crunchbubba> that seems overly generous
11:52 <crunchbubba> of info
11:53 <stenno> pretty sure it wont, i know though that that has happened before in another windowport 
11:54 <stenno> s/pretty sure//
11:54 <crunchbubba> OK, I was just trying to add some info for found stuff today and wondered
11:55 <stenno> you can simply test it, right? wish for a boh in wizmode and then inspect tiledata
11:55 <crunchbubba> the bot is still far less capable than 2 years ago but went from 0 turns accomplished to 35 turns to ~200 turns this week
11:56 <crunchbubba> I could, but I am currently more focussed on just moving around
11:56 <stenno> if you programmed it well, you could now just replace the old curses parser with the new vt_tiledata based parser :P
11:59 <crunchbubba> the bot has never encountered a bag, but point taken
11:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:15646
11:59 <Beholder> [hdf-au] [hackm] dolores (Sam Hum Fem Law), 2358 points, T:2378, killed by a ball of cold
12:00 <stenno> i mean just for testing, not neccessarily in the bot environment
12:00 <crunchbubba> I have no way to inspect the glyphs outside the bot environment
12:05 <crunchbubba> I should look at the code, and I almost remember this being printed or perhaps in the code, but maybe you know offhand. there are 3 txt files of glyphs, each numbered 0 to something, and 2 clearly are offset in the final glyph ordering. by inspection, it looks like monster starts at zero, object starts at 400 and other starts at 850. but that gives
12:05 <crunchbubba> an overlap of about 5 in the range 850-855
12:06 <stenno> i might have written a spoiler regarding that, sec
12:06 <stenno> crunchbubba: https://github.com/stenno/NodeHack/blob/master/tiles.json
12:07 <stenno> newlines are overrated
12:07 <stenno> also this should be outdated for 3.7
12:07 <crunchbubba> nice ... line
12:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:16528
12:08 <stenno> it was autogenerated and i cba'd
12:08 <stenno> but ctrl+f still works :P
12:09 <crunchbubba> 3 lines, 85757 chars :b
12:09 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5267 (0:34:36)
12:10 <stenno> https://jsonformatter.org/json-pretty-print
12:10 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Pri Hlf Mal Cha), 1233 points, T:9363, killed by a grid bug
12:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1202 (0:56:21)
12:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:1208 (0:56:35)
12:12 <stenno> crunchbubba: https://gist.github.com/stenno/92ae8edacd138fa2cdfa44c0d14f69b6
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12:14 <crunchbubba> that says that object starts at 394 not 400, which would leave no gaps. let me see why I thought it was 400
12:15 <stenno> this is for nethack 3.6.6
12:15 <stenno> which version did you base your bot on?
12:15 <stenno> it will change depending on versions
12:16 <stenno> also i am noticing that those tiles include monsters that are currently commented out
12:16 <stenno> maybe a bug on my side?
12:16 <stenno> Cerberus is in there and vorpal jabberwocks
12:21 <crunchbubba> I saw those. yes, 3.6.6    I thought the offset for objects was 400 because of the glyph for chest, but apparently that was user error
12:21 <stenno> crunchbubba: https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.7/win/share/monsters.txt
12:22 <crunchbubba> 3.7 glyph flags will be even more useful, but I am basing on 3.6.6 until 3.7 is official
12:22 <stenno> yeah the glyphs are still changing sometimes
12:22 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] telareba (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 7348 points, T:5646, killed by Mr. Eed-morra; the shopkeeper
12:23 <stenno> you can find the actual tile info in win/share and then objects.txt, monsters.txt and other.txt
12:23 <stenno> monsters > objects > other is the order
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12:24 <crunchbubba> right, but they all start with offset 0, so I was trying to figure out the shofts for objects and other. there are no gaps in the final glyph numbers, but I was not sure of that
12:24 <crunchbubba> the offsets for
12:25 <stenno> yeah
12:25 <crunchbubba> I am not using the actual bitmaps
12:26 <stenno> no, but the # comments indicate the number
12:26 <stenno> me neither, i just used it for parsing
12:26 <crunchbubba> right. I did a grep to put them in my files  grep "# tile " *txt
12:27 <stenno> yep nice
12:28 <crunchbubba> ok, time for dog walking, perhaps other chores. thanks for the help
12:28 <stenno> woof
12:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tuns1999 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1048 points, T:2606, killed by a raven
12:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 667 points, T:2590, killed by a giant bat
12:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 1204 points, T:688, killed by a giant mosquito
12:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Mad Hum Mal Cha), 3526 points, T:1844, quit
12:39 <oh6> whoa whole bunch of new sound files
12:40 <stenno> vt_sounddata is hilarious
12:40 <stenno> i _need_ to do something with that
12:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Ele Inc Fem Neu), 405 points, T:700, killed by a giant rat
12:41 <oh6> and just now my gargoyle looted this quantum mechanic's chest before I got around to it, took out the housecat corpse and dropped it, and when I looted the chest I still got "The housecat inside the box is dead!"
12:41 <oh6> vt_sounddata hm
12:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] zor (War Hob Fem Neu), 601 points, T:613, killed by a small mimic
12:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:19228
12:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 274 points, T:382, killed by a gnome zombie
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12:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3011
12:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Bar Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 7 daggers on an altar, on T:3083
12:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1724 points, T:1917, killed by a rock gnome, while fainted from lack of food
12:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Gla Hum Mal Cha), 325 points, T:443, killed by a gnome lord
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13:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:8050
13:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1598
13:17 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Cha), 250 points, T:647, killed by a bat
13:17 <APic> !PoM
13:17 <Beholder> APic: The moon is at first quarter; full moon in 8 days.
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13:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu), 90 points, T:194, killed by a sewer rat
13:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Law), 51 points, T:135, killed by a grid bug
13:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu), 12 points, T:39, killed by a water moccasin
13:22 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Cha), 118 points, T:323, killed by Mr. Ballingeary, the shopkeeper
13:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
13:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tuns1999 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 579 points, T:1548, killed by a soldier ant
13:23 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Imanity (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:11870
13:29 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Imanity (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 32655 points, T:12567, killed by an ettin mummy, while moving through the air
13:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] nabru (Kni Elf Fem Law), 1914 points, T:1468, killed by a killer bee
13:29 <nabru> go team a!
13:30 <nabru> !lastgame Imanity
13:30 <Beholder> nabru: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/I/Imanity/nethack/dumplog/1674918231.nh.html
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13:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5759
13:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Nob Dwa Fem Cha), 18306 points, T:3277, killed by a yeti
13:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 7542 points, T:6042, petrified by a cockatrice egg
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13:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Bar Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:19867
13:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the Paladin of Ilmater, on T:62447 (16:44:04)
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13:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:20263
13:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) was bestowed with Grayswandir by Quetzalcoatl, on T:9886
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13:47 <nabru> You consume homemade lichen.  You hear rumbling in the distance.
13:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Mal Una) just blew up his bag of holding, on T:62846 (16:49:29)
13:49 <rld> <@antigulp> What's this I'm hearing about sounds? Is it just additional vt_sounddata support, or is there more at play?
13:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Con Hob Fem Cha), 232 points, T:191, killed by a gnome lord, while fainted from lack of food
13:50 <qt> better support for sound libraries or something
13:51 <qt> and sound triggers based on specific events instead of user-defined regex I think, unless that was there before, idk
13:52 <qt> I think that's new though
13:52 <Demo> nethack sounds are just keyboards
13:52 <Demo> click clack
13:52 <nabru> keyboards and the occasional "ah shit"
13:52 <qt> i don't really see the appeal of sound effects honestly but I guess quite a few people like it
13:52 <Demo> it would be cool to build the wrapper for it
13:52 <Demo> but that's about it
13:53 <Demo> you can listen to podcasts or audiobooks or talk with friends while playing nethack. it is better without sound
13:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1377
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13:53 <nabru> yep, I'm mostly listening to music or podcasts when playing nethack
13:53 <rld> <@antigulp> NetHack with podcasts or friends is goated
13:53 <qt> i have no friends
13:53 <rld> <@antigulp> That said, the absurd tileset with a bunch of meme sound effects sounds hilarioius
13:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1497
13:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 1377 points, T:1539, killed by a giant spider
14:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:22717
14:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", got "a greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:10196
14:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:48468
14:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Vlad's tower, on T:48532 (12:40:35)
14:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:10431
14:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:48668
14:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered Catra, her faithful kitten, on T:735
14:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] antigulp (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 377 points, T:742, killed by a falling object
14:10 <aosdict> nethack gaining a faint typing noise sound for "You hear a faint typing noise" when
14:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Sheol, on T:48927 (12:48:28)
14:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Mal Una) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:64715 (17:14:50)
14:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided demiliches, on T:49025 (12:51:43)
14:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1779
14:18 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 5944 points, T:5824, killed by brainlessness
14:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Mad Hum Mal Law), 330 points, T:707, killed by a small crossbow bolt
14:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 2396 points, T:1805, killed by a giant spider, while praying
14:22 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Mal Una) refused to give up The Idol of Moloch to the Archbishop of Moloch, on T:65292 (17:23:58)
14:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the Archbishop of Moloch, on T:65311 (17:27:04)
14:26 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Bar Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Cleaver by Crom, on T:23603
14:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided disenchanters, on T:49623 (13:04:39)
14:31 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3814 (0:32:16)
14:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:354
14:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tuns1999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) found Sting on the floor, on T:440
14:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] Invidia (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) was bestowed with Frost Brand by Thoth, on T:31394
14:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:55054 (8:41:41)
14:36 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:20028
14:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Mal Una) had a shield of light entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:66567 (17:42:46)
14:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [un] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Executioner, on T:50664
14:45 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Mon Dop Fem Cha), 5500 points, T:2851, killed by a soldier ant
14:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:8722 (1:17:42)
14:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Bar Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Frost Brand by Crom, on T:28136
14:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:13253
14:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:8722 (1:17:58)
14:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:1787
14:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a forge to create Glamdring, on T:8747 (1:18:30)
14:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tuns1999 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 654 points, T:1879, killed by a giant mimic
14:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 21006 points, T:9299, killed by touching Glamdring
14:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) was bestowed with Cleaver by Set, on T:2387
14:58 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 gray dragon scale mail", got "a greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:3726
15:03 <stenno> 5x12 tool shop EZ
15:04 <stenno> 1 magic marker, 1 magic lamp, tonal
15:04 <stenno> damn i don't have enough money
15:04 <stenno> this is going insanely well but at the same time thats also pressuring lol
15:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Dragonbane by The Lady, on T:25423
15:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Mad Hum Mal Neu), 2659 points, T:3294, killed by a dwarf
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15:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56727 (9:16:10)
15:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:56732 (9:16:26)
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15:10 <stenno> also i have to integrate 'drop recently picked up item' menu shortcut into my typing routine/muscle memory
15:11 <stenno> thats really useful
15:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:56886 (9:18:43)
15:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed Mephistopheles, on T:56897 (9:19:10)
15:12 <stenno> uuuhm wtf
15:12 <stenno> there is a strange display error in my game
15:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:21727
15:13 <stenno> i walked into a potion shop, most potions had a gray color
15:13 <nabru> I think this "feature" was added in a recent update
15:13 <stenno> only when i walk close to them 
15:13 <nabru> now you see everything as gray until you walk close to it
15:13 <stenno> they now change color
15:13 <stenno> is that a feature?
15:13 <stenno>  whats the reasoning
15:13 <stenno> thought i was hallu first lol
15:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:26065
15:17 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5064
15:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the giant high priestess of Moloch, on T:57224 (9:25:56)
15:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:57225 (9:25:59)
15:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Traveler (level 14), on T:27034
15:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] jww (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Enchanter (level 14), on T:63692
15:28 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a red naga corpse, on T:6885
15:29 <jilles> stenno, probably so you can't get extra information by enabling colours
15:31 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:7118
15:31 <stenno> jilles: i see
15:32 <stenno> earlier i was really confident in claiming that vt_tiledata doesn't leak information, but now i am not that sure anymore
15:32 <stenno> gotta investigate that when i feel like it
15:36 <Demo> good concept
15:40 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:15266
15:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Mad Hum Mal Cha), 1275 points, T:1870, quit
15:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", got "an emerald ring", on T:27606
15:48 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", got "2 scrolls labeled LEP GEX VEN ZEA", on T:27694
15:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 195 points, T:250, killed by a gas spore's explosion
15:52 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tuns1999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2812
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15:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tuns1999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful housecat, on T:2875
15:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tuns1999 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1396 points, T:2879, killed by a giant ant
15:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1086 (0:09:37)
15:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", got "a pyramidal amulet", on T:27696
15:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 rustproof gray dragon scale mail", got "a gray dragon scale mail", on T:27697
15:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 cloak of protection", got "an ornamental cope", on T:27707
15:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 772 points, T:1619, killed by a paper golem
16:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) was bestowed with Mjollnir by Tyr, on T:9025
16:07 <stenno> wtf the orc shaman zapped a wand of teleportation against me
16:07 <stenno> are they doing that now
16:07 <stenno> thats super annoying
16:08 <paxed> only in certain very specific situations
16:10 <paxed> (they've got friends nearby, and you're behind a chokepoint)
16:11 <Muad> wow
16:11 <Muad> that's.. cool
16:13 <stenno> good to know
16:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:69538 (18:29:12)
16:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed amulet of reflection", got "a greased octagonal amulet", on T:9445
16:22 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:9890
16:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1802 (0:30:37)
16:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] danz (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 44677 points, T:9314, quit
16:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2086 (0:34:19)
16:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (master liches), on T:24944
16:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Inf Elf Fem Una), 3880 points, T:2620, killed by a blue jelly
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16:42 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Und Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:43509 (23:57:20)
16:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:4858
16:49 <stenno> actually does that mean i have to figure out chokepoint strats again
16:52 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu), 142 points, T:384, killed by Mr. Eed-morra, the shopkeeper
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16:57 <nabru> rougelike!
16:57 <rld> <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike.
16:58 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 517 points, T:1602, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse
17:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) destroyed willisllama's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:2797 (1:44:55)
17:04 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1833
17:06 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu), 3044 points, T:1998, killed by a gnome lord
17:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 1244 points, T:2759, quit
17:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a potion of holy water
17:09 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire
17:11 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:56, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
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17:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 5512 points, T:3313, killed by a plains centaur
17:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 11 points, T:170, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
17:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 1057 points, T:1210, killed by a bolt of lightning
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17:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
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17:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 150 points, T:499, killed by Mr. Asidonhopo; the shopkeeper
17:17 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:484 (0:03:06)
17:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 356 points, T:845, killed by a crossbow bolt
17:23 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Bar Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Raider (level 14), on T:35134
17:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Bar Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Magicbane by Crom, on T:35581
17:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Bar Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:35864
17:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Mad Hum Mal Cha), 615 points, T:1596, killed by a hobbit, while sleeping
17:39 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Und Dwa Mal Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:44268 (1 day, 0:33:19)
17:39 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3050
17:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Bar Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 22 darts on an altar, on T:3120
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17:50 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony
17:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6755
17:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed tuns1999's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:4044
17:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:6953
17:59 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Mal Cha) was bestowed with Stormbringer, on T:6953
18:00 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 2801803 points, T:57602, killed by life drainage (with the Amulet)
18:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1454 (0:25:57)
18:04 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:2059 (0:29:38)
18:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tuns1999 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:4475
18:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4374
18:06 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 1749 points, T:2105, killed by a giant bat
18:07 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 872 points, T:1050, killed by a wand
18:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:7907 (0:53:33)
18:12 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 823 points, T:939, killed by the Goblin King
18:13 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 20670 points, T:8376, killed by a giant turtle
18:13 <crunchbubba> (returns from robottin') yes, the potion colors is something I use, and it is/was a leak
18:14 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 29472 points, T:9017, killed by a rock troll
18:31 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Und Dwa Mal Law) killed Xanathar, on T:44804 (1 day, 0:52:26)
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18:42 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:12113
18:45 <stenno> looool
18:46 <stenno> "The freezing sphere explodes! Boom! You are caught in the chameleon's explosion!"
18:46 <nabru> hahahaha
18:46 <stenno> very unfortunate polyform
18:47 <stenno> hmm
18:47 <stenno> a second chameleon
18:47 <stenno> wonder if it was actually the same
18:47 <stenno> but it can't be, just coincidence
18:48 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Und Dwa Mal Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon him by Seeker, on T:45300 (1 day, 1:09:01)
18:50 <stenno> (vanilla btw)
18:51 <nabru> !variant]
18:51 <nabru> !variant
18:51 <Beholder> nabru: hackem
19:01 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:29176
19:02 <stenno> man i don't want to fight minotaurs
19:02 <stenno> can't wait until i get my oof
19:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1048 points, T:993, killed by Mr. Rellenk; the shopkeeper
19:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] tuns1999 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2510 points, T:6550, killed by a giant ant
19:07 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Und Dwa Mal Law) killed Nebuchadnezzar, on T:45682 (1 day, 1:28:06)
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19:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8497
19:20 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 cloak of protection", got "a greased opera cloak", on T:14210
19:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 50 points, T:49, killed by a water moccasin
19:22 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:14329
19:24 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2091 points, T:3156, zombified by a dwarf zombie
19:29 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 384 points, T:895, killed by a gnome lady
19:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Mad Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2730
19:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Mad Hum Mal Cha), 3033 points, T:3169, quit
19:33 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:9258
19:34 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:4489
19:43 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu (level 14), on T:31871
19:44 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:2137 (0:13:05)
19:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Bar Orc Fem Cha) found Giantslayer in a shop, on T:9669
19:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] danz (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 1075 points, T:536, quit
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19:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) was bestowed with Sunsword by Quetzalcoatl, on T:18416
19:49 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) found Excalibur on the floor, on T:5463
19:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:14829
19:51 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) averted death (killed by a gnome lord), on T:5634
19:52 <nabru> !ping
19:52 <Beholder> nabru: Pong! 
19:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3228 (0:21:14)
19:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Gia Fem Neu), 3234 points, T:3580, poisoned by a giant cockroach
19:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 4562 points, T:3799, killed by a white unicorn
19:57 <stenno> i totally forgot about buffed DSM fuck
20:00 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior (level 14), on T:15227
20:01 <crunchbubba> stenno, in wizmode, vt_tiledata leaks bag info but not unknown wand info. I don't know about lamp, as I suspect wishing for one fails even in wizmode
20:02 <crunchbubba> wands even in the til files lists a generic desc along with an actual wand type, (which seems odd except to make sure you have a tile for each of them) so that makes some sense
20:02 <stenno> wishing for magic lamps in wizmode works fine
20:03 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1030
20:03 <stenno> yeah its like 'short wand' 'long wand'
20:03 <crunchbubba> OK. well, I might have done it wrong, or it might not leak that info
20:04 <crunchbubba> it's like "(balsa / secret door detection)"
20:04 <stenno> so you wished for unIDed boh, dropped it, then checked vt_tiledata info and it said 'bag of holding' ?
20:04 <crunchbubba> and it ID'd as balsa but not death
20:05 <crunchbubba> I wished for boh and tricks and then dropped them both on different squares, and a wand of death on a 3rd square, and the tiles are bag/boh bag/tricks and balsa/secret door detection
20:05 <stenno> hmm damn thats a bit of a problem
20:05 <crunchbubba> yeah but don't fix it 8*)
20:06 <stenno> crunchbubba: do you want to write a bug to nethack?
20:06 * crunchbubba muttlaughs
20:06 <stenno> lol
20:06 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2871 points, T:1509, killed by an owlbear
20:06 <crunchbubba> how do I do that? I might eventually be smart enough to do some dev, so I should at least learn how to knock on the door
20:07 <stenno> https://nethack.org/common/contact.html
20:08 <crunchbubba> I would probably want to do that another day, when more awake
20:08 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law), 6348 points, T:7104, killed by a soldier ant
20:08 <stenno> sure
20:09 <stenno> i assume the same for lamps vs. magic lamps 
20:09 <stenno> also flutes, whistles, drums
20:09 <crunchbubba> I will try that again, too
20:09 <stenno> harps
20:10 <crunchbubba> (nods) drums, etc
20:10 <stenno> everything where two or more unidentified objects share the same display name
20:10 <crunchbubba> right
20:11 <stenno> high priest and rider 'farlook' probably also works with vt_tiledata
20:13 <crunchbubba> to test this, and I am a LITTLE wary because I have damaged this build by hamhandedly messing with the RNG so that it starts with the same seed each time (and perhaps each level), I have to play manually to generate and drop stuff, and then let the bot pick the game up so that I can tell what tile/glyph it sees
20:13 <crunchbubba> and my damned dog keep picking up the items
20:14 <stenno> a somewhat straightforward solution would be to introduce different unided names for all those things
20:14 <stenno> like 'shiny lamp' and 'dirty lamp' oslt 
20:14 <stenno> analog to eg. wands
20:15 <stenno> crunchbubba: i might program a tool which makes inspecting vt_tiledata in sessions more comfortable
20:15 <stenno> maybe based on nodehack, maybe a much simpler script
20:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Bar Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:10976
20:16 <stenno> maybe something similar to farlook, just that it shows the tiledata instead of the displayed object
20:18 <crunchbubba> a quick check verifies the bag and also magic whistle
20:19 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha) destroyed willisllama's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:892 (0:10:21)
20:27 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 287 points, T:899, killed by a burning scroll
20:27 * crunchbubba filed a bug
20:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:11820
20:50 <qt> what's the bug?
20:50 <qt> i don't know if I understand right -- that different items have different tiles?
20:51 <crunchbubba> that unidentified items are shown with their fully identified tile
20:51 <qt> shown in what way? like it prints the name somewhere?
20:51 <qt> oh just that it uses the same tile regardless of whether an item is IDed or not?
20:52 <qt> that is the reason items that are supposed to be indistinguishable have identical tiles on normal tilesets
20:52 <crunchbubba> in the datastream, it does a "start glyph N", print one char, "end glyph" fopr each char on the map
20:52 <qt> (though some "cheating" tilesets intentionally make them distinguishable)
20:53 <crunchbubba> N identifies the item for Boh vs bag of tricks, for example, or magic whistle from tin whistle
20:54 <qt> it would be fairly easy now to change that, now that there are those generic item glyphs. it doesn't really seem like that big of a problem to me i guess... i guess it's a problem just because it provides a way to cheat if you really want to?
20:55 <qt> how do you actually access that data though? you'd need some kind of custom client that extracts that info or something right? or is it actually visible somehow?
20:58 <stenno> its not visible
20:59 <stenno> its VT100 escape sequences
20:59 <crunchbubba> it's making my bot's game slightly easier. I don't see it being very important for humans, even if you jumped through the hoops to see the info. if you can put in a local tileset, it would be easy to make this visible
20:59 <stenno> terminals will ignore vt_tiledata but its still getting sent
21:00 <stenno> btw it might just be a coincidence still heh
21:00 <stenno> maybe the names actually get shuffled and you just hit a 1/8 chance
21:00 <crunchbubba> yes it is possible that I am wrong, but it seems pretty clear. I wondered about this as soon as I saw the names associated with each tile
21:01 <crunchbubba> "I did it a couple of times
21:01 <stenno> crunchbubba: well balsa wand prints a random IDed name too
21:01 <qt> where are you pulling the names from? just from objects.txt?
21:01 <stenno> balsa / 
21:01 <stenno> qt: yes
21:01 <qt> yeah the association of the tile with the item name isn't going to be accurate most of the time I think
21:02 <stenno> you said it showed balsa / secret door detection but it was death
21:02 <stenno> qt: indeed it gets shuffled
21:02 <qt> but definitely for things like BoH it enables some cheating
21:02 <crunchbubba> but it was a balsa wand, yes
21:02 <stenno> crunchbubba: so might have just been 1/8 chance
21:02 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1902 points, T:2316, killed by a rothe
21:03 <stenno> it might have randomly showed the 'correct' ID name for boh,tricks and whistle
21:03 <crunchbubba> if boh correct and tricks correct and magic whistle correct is 1/8, I did that 2 or 3 times, so 8**(-3) ??
21:03 <qt> some tiles don't get shuffled and will always be "right"
21:04 <stenno> i didn't know you did it more than once
21:04 <qt> basically any item where the tile already looks unique it won't give you any extra info
21:04 <qt> but boh or magic whistle it will give you extra info
21:04 <qt> because those are all just "bag" or "whistle", there's no shuffled descriptions
21:05 <stenno> how does the code figure that out lol
21:05 <stenno> does it just compare all the names first before choosing 
21:05 <stenno> or are the item types hardcoded even
21:06 <stenno> oh wait i get it now
21:06 <stenno> never mind
21:06 <stenno> of course they don't have a randomized appearance in the first place
21:06 <qt> yeah
21:06 <stenno> hm but still, is it hardcoded then?
21:07 <stenno> how does the game know which to randomize and which not
21:07 <stenno> wait lol i should go to bed
21:07 <qt> check out shuffle_all(o_init.c)
21:07 <stenno> for some reason this super confuses me lol
21:07 <stenno> ok
21:07 <qt> yes the classes which get shuffled are hardcoded
21:07 <stenno> oof
21:07 <stenno> what do you think of my solution to just assign randomized appearances to the 'missing' items ?
21:08 <stenno> adds a bit more flavor too
21:09 <qt> yeah that would work, or you could even just shuffle those ranges without assigning randomized appearances I guess
21:09 <qt> but it seems like a pretty marginal benefit and a lot of work to cheat just to find out whether a tile represents a magic whistle or not (when you can pick it up and find out instantly)
21:09 <crunchbubba> right
21:10 <stenno> yeah but with boh its a bit more different
21:10 <stenno> gray stone would work too presumably
21:10 <crunchbubba> I usually figure that out pretty quickly, as a packrat
21:10 <qt> yeah i think you're right that gray stone is another one like that
21:11 <stenno> actually gems...
21:11 <stenno> red gem might be several things sharing the same unIDed name
21:11 <stenno> no more touchstone required
21:12 <Umbire> there's also a gem that can either be green or blue randomly
21:12 <Umbire> or blue green, whichever it was
21:12 <stenno> tins too maybe lol
21:12 <qt> this has been a thing for a long time, iirc there are tilesets specifically designed to allow you to cheat that way on a local game
21:12 <stenno> qt: yes
21:12 <qt> tins I don't think so since there's only 1 tin tile
21:13 <stenno> qt: yes thats why
21:13 <stenno> oh wait
21:13 <stenno> there is only one tin object
21:13 <Umbire> idk about being designed for it but at least one tile set I know of does give away some object IDs 
21:13 <stenno> the 'of ... meat' is just a property of the tin object, its not its own seperate object so to say
21:13 <stenno> that would be a bit silly lol
21:14 <qt> yeah imagine like 500 tin tiles that all look identical
21:14 <stenno> yep lol
21:15 <stenno> so, riders and high priest, any other monster where that might be relevant?
21:16 <stenno> this also works in any modern variant btw
21:16 <stenno> there it might be much more crucial :D
21:16 <crunchbubba> there's only one high priest tile(?)
21:17 <stenno> hmm ok
21:17 <stenno> riders then still though
21:17 <crunchbubba> yes
21:18 <stenno> it really fits well with the recent changes regarding color info leaking
21:18 <stenno> lol i bet anselmus reported that
21:18 <stenno> the color thing
21:18 <crunchbubba> he and Roke play b/w
21:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:34140
21:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) found the Tsurugi of Muramasa on the floor, on T:34141
21:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:34141
21:21 <qt> how can you leak info about the riders? by the time they're showing up as tiles you can tell what they are
21:28 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:573 (0:10:37)
21:29 <crunchbubba> (nods)
21:30 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:783 (0:13:24)
21:31 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 621 points, T:1234, killed by a rothe, while praying
21:32 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 38 points, T:64, killed by a falling rock
21:32 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Mon Dop Fem Cha), 76 points, T:105, killed by an electric shock
21:34 <stenno> qt: how?
21:34 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:20979
21:34 <stenno> you cannot farlook the riders, can you?
21:34 <stenno> blindfold on
21:34 <qt> sure you can
21:34 <qt> also their tiles are unique
21:34 <qt> they aren't like high priests
21:34 <stenno> since when
21:35 <qt> idk I thought it was always like that
21:35 <stenno> i thought it would just display Rider
21:35 <stenno> well it has been like that
21:35 <stenno> but then it got changed at some point i thought
21:35 <Andrio> Some variants do that.
21:35 <Andrio> Not vanilla.
21:35 <Andrio> UnNetHack for instance
21:35 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1213 (0:18:16)
21:35 <stenno> hm i see
21:35 <stenno> variant paranoia then
21:36 <qt> i guess it could leak info in those variants though, if they each have their own tile but the tiles look identical
21:37 <NetSysFire> i dreamt i was playing nethack, possibly dnethack but it had the evil feature that there is an exceedingly low chance of nasty casters being able to ban you from hardfought for a short timespan
21:37 <crunchbubba> banhack
21:38 <NetSysFire> i know i was fighting a spell golem (exists for real, like a paper golem but drops scrolls and can cast) and next thing i know is Quit: K-Lined and then i discussed with K 2 how this works and apparently this targets either v4 or v6 so you could evade
21:39 <NetSysFire> and i asked why its called k-lined, which is irc jargon, and he said it might also target irc and i asked him who he had to bribe in order to get these privs
21:39 <stenno> nice
21:40 <Andrio> (also a K-line only applies to that particulat server)
21:40 <NetSysFire> yes
21:40 <qt> it sounds like a highly advanced slex feature from a future version tbh
21:40 <qt> like a slex wunderwaffe
21:40 <Andrio> Of course
21:40 <NetSysFire> there was a wand of wonder which did the same thing in my inv!!
21:40 <Demo> i read the messages backwards and was very confused
21:41 <NetSysFire> wand of banishment exists in slex, level teleports a monster deeeeeeeeeep into the dungeon
21:41 <qt> maybe it was under development and the initial tests went horribly wrong, and the ban gun backfired
21:41 <NetSysFire> also there was a small gargoyle which apparently was a minion of a deity and kept spawning nasty obelisks which had annoying gaze attacks
21:42 <qt> netsysfire you should develop your own variant based purely on these nethack dreams you have
21:42 <NetSysFire> uhhhhhh
21:42 <qt> no features except those you dream of
21:42 <qt> why uh, is that something you're doing already?
21:42 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4835 points, T:2134, killed by a gnoll cleric, while paralyzed by a monster
21:43 <NetSysFire> no
21:43 <Demo> amy likes to add things ppl dream about to slex
21:44 <qt> the problem is that if you start developing your own variant you will probably start to have dreams about programming instead of playing
21:44 <NetSysFire> the nethack i dreamt of was 3d though, it was in some sort of egyptian temple and i found a secret room which i locked myself in and took a rest
21:44 <qt> so you won't be able to add any new features unless you turn it into some kind of zachtronics programming game
21:46 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6230
21:46 <NetSysFire> i dont really contribute to nethack much except with bug reports
21:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:635 (0:03:46)
21:48 <qt> exactly why your mind is still fertile ground for nethack dreams
21:49 <qt> actually i don't think I have ever dreamed about playing nethack.  I think I have had some kind of dream about nethack code before though
21:49 <qt> probably about Pat berating me or something
21:49 <NetSysFire> lol
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21:52 <Demo> i have so many dreams about both things
21:54 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2182 (0:10:42)
21:55 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:2303 (0:11:31)
21:57 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:4975 (1:37:46)
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22:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8694 points, T:3301, petrified by a cockatrice corpse
22:05 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha) had a blessed pair of jumping boots entrusted to him by Mars, on T:6083 (1:46:11)
22:06 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +3 polished silver shield", got "a polished silver shield", on T:117
22:08 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:412 (0:02:14)
22:16 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Mon Dop Fem Cha), 267 points, T:323, killed by a hobbit
22:22 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2897
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22:30 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3827
22:38 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Mad Hum Mal Cha), 4045 points, T:3337, quit
22:47 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4661 points, T:2028, killed by an orcish arrow
22:47 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 6829 points, T:6047, killed by a giant mimic
22:49 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slshm] wsx9000 (Mon Dop Fem Cha), 4871 points, T:1338, killed by a soldier ant
23:03 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:24846
23:15 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:35858
23:20 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Cav Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3389 (0:58:37)
23:25 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Journeyer (level 18), on T:29372
23:41 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [slth] skwrl (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 82699 points, T:11742, killed by a spitting beetle
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23:46 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) bribed Asmodeus with 484 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:37526
23:53 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Excavator (level 14), on T:26280
23:56 <Beholder> [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:38317