00:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Brd Swn Fem Cha) was given Limited Moon, on T:8688 00:02 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 700 points, T:880, killed by a coyote 00:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) found Demonbane on the floor, on T:9250 00:07 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 255 points, T:734, killed by a dagger 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:10309 00:16 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ride (Kni Elf Mal Law), 1123 points, T:1877, killed by a gnome mummy 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2169 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:11138 00:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:30728 00:25 [hdf-us] [hackm] Ride (Kni Elf Mal Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:3647, rt[0:08:32] 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:13281 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:12892 00:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:4670 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 51523 points, T:31760, killed by Yeenoghu 00:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:43077 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Snickersnee by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5267 00:50 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed peterg's ghost, the former Novice, on T:5419 01:05 -!- Guest80 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 01:07 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 01:08 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 01:13 Umbire what's a water vault? 01:13 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2570 01:23 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) had an orcish helm entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:3260, rt[1:53:21] 01:25 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:3568, rt[1:55:19] 01:34 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) destroyed elenmirie's ghost, the former Brute, on T:4267, rt[2:04:00] 01:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Axus, on T:46153 01:44 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5730, rt[2:14:00] 01:47 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:5981, rt[2:16:57] 01:52 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Kni Orc Mal Cha), 13177 points, T:6466, killed by an electric chair 01:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Oona, on T:47266 02:00 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:03 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 02:07 -!- eady has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:08 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 618 points, T:1676, killed by a stone crossbow bolt 02:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (And-Ana And Fem Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:48440 02:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed the Grue, on T:49031 02:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Werebane by Crom, on T:50965 02:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8163, rt[2:44:01] 02:29 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a battle-axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:64237 02:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Trollsbane by Crom, on T:51880 02:31 <@Earth Traveler> okay i have now received every unaligned artifact but frost brand 02:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 854 points, T:733, killed by the Goblin King 02:38 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:64617 02:38 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 02:41 -!- Noisytoot has joined #hardfought 02:45 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:64913 02:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Frost Brand by Crom, on T:53780 02:54 <@Earth Traveler> about time 02:55 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver elven short sword of shock", on T:65078 02:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:22094, rt[5:42:25] 03:03 -!- jonosmalls88 has joined #hardfought 03:08 <@Earth Traveler> minor request: can the devs make it so that if the player sits on a trap, they never "escape" it? 03:10 Earth why are you after frost brand? 03:10 <@Earth Traveler> it's a good artifact to taking on Gehennom 03:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:24471 03:17 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:19 Earth why not grayswandir? 03:24 Lawful. 03:24 Earth is neutral. 03:24 And I believe Barbs only get basic in Saber. 03:24 <@Earth Traveler> correct 03:24 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 03:25 <@Earth Traveler> and an artifact wish wasn't going to work even before i started altar farming 03:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12841 03:28 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:54658 03:35 -!- jonosmalls88 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:40 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 754 points, T:1726, killed by a gnome lord 03:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 cloak of magic resistance", got "a greased ornamental cope", on T:13949 03:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an owlbear, on T:23040, rt[6:24:20] 03:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:13965 03:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:13982 03:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a small glob of gray ooze, on T:14390 03:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) was bestowed with Fire Brand by Shan Lai Ching, on T:14462 03:53 <@Earth Traveler> love that the watch does nothing about hordes of hostile monsters trying to kill you but drying up a fountain is punishable by death 03:56 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:67202 03:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dragonbait (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 474 points, T:958, killed by a gas spore's explosion 04:01 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a scroll labeled THARR on an altar, on T:3144 04:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Croesus, on T:56706 04:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:28418 04:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] leviyatan (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 250 points, T:651, killed by a fox, while frozen by a potion 04:30 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:68625 04:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:24974, rt[7:11:55] 04:42 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:45 -!- jonosmalls88 has joined #hardfought 04:50 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:59136 04:59 <@Earth Traveler> sheesh 04:59 <@Earth Traveler> at least the AI's still exploitable 04:59 ? 04:59 <@Earth Traveler> covetous monsters going to a random staircase is annoying imo 05:00 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:69917 05:00 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 05:04 -!- jonosmalls88 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:04 Oh, that. 05:04 How'd you exploit it, then? 05:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:59829 05:08 <@Earth Traveler> turns out the only random part is which staircase they'll always go to 05:09 <@Earth Traveler> like Asmodeus in my game only went to the downstairs 05:09 -!- mobileuser10 has joined #hardfought 05:10 That's what I remember being the case, yeah 05:12 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:14 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7676 05:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 584 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:60264 05:15 <@Earth Traveler> "i'm gonna give you 584 zorkmids to f**k off" 05:15 Earth hmm i just played a neutral monk with grays 05:16 <@Earth Traveler> okay 05:18 <@Earth Traveler> and an artifact wish wasn't going to work even before i started altar farming 05:19 Lot you can do Gehennom with, but Earth was set on it, so. 05:29 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest858 05:29 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 05:30 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:9149 05:32 -!- Guest858 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:37 -!- mobileuser10 is now known as mobileuser 05:38 -!- Semilg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:38 -!- jonosmalls88 has joined #hardfought 05:38 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 05:50 -!- jonosmalls88 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:54 -!- mobileuser50 has joined #hardfought 05:56 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Geryon, on T:41050 06:02 -!- mobileuser50 is now known as mobileuser 06:03 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (zirconium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 06:04 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 06:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) genocided class m, on T:60619 06:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5th time), on T:42386 06:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:38787 06:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:61521 06:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:42430 06:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Plane of Earth, on T:42430 06:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Plane of Air, on T:42464 06:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Plane of Fire, on T:42526 06:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:62292 06:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] StatueSurfer (Bar Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:62293 06:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Plane of Water, on T:42557 06:38 -!- mobileuser20 has joined #hardfought 06:40 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a war hammer named Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:15550 06:41 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:42712 06:41 <@Earth Traveler> Go Team @! 06:42 -!- mobileuser20 is now known as mobileuser 06:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] elenmirie (Sam Dwa Fem Law) killed Aphrodite, on T:29700, rt[9:25:04] 06:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:42725 06:50 -!- Bugpowder has joined #hardfought 06:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "burnt enormous meatball", got "an enormous meatball", on T:42744 06:54 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:1059, rt[1:18:12] 06:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 2460752 points, T:42745, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/B/Bugpowder/nethack/dumplog/1670942373.nh.html 07:05 <@hackemslashem> nice 1 07:07 [hdf-us] [un] lukas (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "3 blessed glowing dragon eggs", on T:45096 07:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1241 points, T:1230, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 07:08 -!- Bugpowder has quit [Quit: Client closed] 07:08 gg 07:09 gg 07:21 Bugpowder: congrats! 07:22 -!- malor has joined #hardfought 07:24 <@malor> gg bugpower. When I saw that hackemslashem congratulated you I thought you ascended Hackem for a second 🙂 07:27 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 07:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law) had a spellbook of identify given to her by Ptah, on T:29984, rt[6:48:39] 07:38 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:907, rt[0:23:34] 07:39 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law) had a blessed staff of war entrusted to her by Ptah, on T:30213, rt[6:52:15] 07:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 7903 points, T:7807, killed by an orcish arrow 07:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 951 points, T:1359, killed by a hobbit 07:50 -!- mobileuser1 has joined #hardfought 07:52 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:52 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6533 07:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law) had a blessed leather cloak of invisibility entrusted to her by Ptah, on T:31676, rt[7:11:14] 07:59 -!- mobileuser1 is now known as mobileuser 08:01 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:22552 08:02 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law), 8051 points, T:7782, killed by a fire elemental 08:02 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:22612 08:08 hey all, thought you might enjoy this fun little adventure of mine :) https://thinkmoult.com/nethack-illustrated-guide-mazes-of-menace.html 08:15 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:9341, rt[3:03:43] 08:15 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2453 08:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] seppokalevi7 (Val Hum Fem Law), 625 points, T:1582, killed by a giant ant 08:16 [hdf-eu] [xnh] wvc (Kni Hum Fem Law) bestowed with Snickersnee by Lugh, on T:2604 08:21 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 63 points, T:544, killed by a jackal 08:23 [hdf-eu] [hackm] mobileuser (Inf Gia Mal Una), 3416 points, T:3498, killed by a steel shotgun shell 08:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Law), 3287 points, T:2585, killed by a gnome lady 09:06 <@malor> Wow this is really well done. I will sit down and read it later. Thanks for creating this! 09:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Cen Mal Una) became the Emissary of Moloch, on T:19314, rt[18:40:37] 09:13 that's stunning Moult! 09:17 [hdf-eu] [hackm] stenno (Und Trt Fem Law), 2053 points, T:2873, quit 09:18 Moult[m], where did the art come from? 09:18 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 09:18 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:18 please say it's AI generated, pleasepleasepleaseplease 09:19 i thought at first AI generated too lol; 09:19 i like the black-and-white joke for rogue 09:21 -!- Semilg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:21 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 09:23 "All images were generated through the DALL-E AI" 09:26 [hdf-eu] [hackm] stenno (Mon Trt Fem Neu), 531 points, T:673, killed by a boulder 09:27 -!- mobileuser86 has joined #hardfought 09:29 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:31 hahah yessss 09:32 i dont read, i just look at pics 09:32 mmmm pretty 09:34 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3252, rt[0:23:35] 09:37 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 09:39 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:4035, rt[0:28:30] 09:39 I was expecting to see a render of the Amulet of Yendor 09:40 -!- mobileuser86 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:41 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4218, rt[0:30:23] 09:42 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:44 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 09:45 [hdf-eu] [hackm] stenno (Mon Trt Fem Neu), 2520 points, T:1158, killed by a baby white dragon 09:46 [hdf-us] [slth] dano (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 13595 points, T:3732, quit 09:47 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 silver dragon scale mail", on T:30181 09:50 -!- crunchbubba has joined #hardfought 09:54 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:30560 09:54 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", on T:30561 10:03 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 10:05 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:31460 10:09 -!- mobileuser63 has joined #hardfought 10:10 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 901 points, T:2764, killed by a pony 10:16 -!- mobileuser63 is now known as mobileuser 10:30 -!- jonosmalls88 has joined #hardfought 10:30 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:31909 10:33 [hdf-us] [slshm] markp (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 722 points, T:1330, killed by a little dog 10:33 -!- a159 has joined #hardfought 10:36 -!- jonosmalls88 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:37 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:32539 10:38 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:32557 10:42 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:32728 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:22049 10:48 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:34248, rt[8:13:59] 10:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 8998 points, T:5888, killed by a zruty, while praying 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] stoicjin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon (broad short sword) for the first time, on T:4178 10:54 [hdf-eu] [hackm] stenno (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had Gauntlets of Defense bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:3185, rt[0:27:50] 10:55 PagChomp 10:55 wait what 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] stoicjin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4637 10:55 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Val Hum Fem Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Tyr, on T:22685 11:01 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] TreninA (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2736 points, T:4380, killed by a Woodland-elf 11:07 [hdf-eu] [hackm] stenno (Mon Trt Fem Neu), 5392 points, T:3537, quit 11:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 cloak of magic resistance", got "a greased ornamental cope", on T:14823 11:11 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:12893, rt[2:00:43] 11:13 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:10678, rt[3:01:24] 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4715 points, T:5755, killed by a gnome 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] stoicjin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7333 11:17 [hdf-us] [hackm] Demo (Ice Cen Fem Cha), 3779 points, T:2022, quit 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a gecko corpse, on T:15933 11:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Bin Orc Mal Non), 419 points, T:5357, killed by a gas spore's explosion 11:21 -!- a159 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:24 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:27 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of power", on T:33483 11:29 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 hawaiian shirt", on T:33488 11:29 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:33501 11:30 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:33503 11:31 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:33559 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] stoicjin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "+2 blessed gray dragon scale mail", got "a gray dragon scale mail", on T:8848 11:35 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14942, rt[2:24:42] 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:34173 11:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:37 [hdf-eu] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:37 -!- hothraxxa has joined #hardfought 11:38 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] post163 (Nob Vam Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 336 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:34372 11:43 [hdf-us] [slshm] markp (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 5776 points, T:4724, killed by a soldier ant 11:46 -!- hackemslashem has joined #hardfought 11:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] stoicjin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Giantslayer by The Lady, on T:9966 11:46 [hdf-us] [slshm] markp (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 219 points, T:409, killed by a bat, while helpless 11:50 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:17029, rt[2:39:26] 11:52 [hdf-eu] [hackm] stenno (Mon Trt Fem Neu), 4279 points, T:3489, quit 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed nurdglaw's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:3323 11:57 <@Earth Traveler> what happened stenno 11:57 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:59 @Earth Traveler term ill 11:59 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Chieftainess (level 26), on T:35429 12:01 [hdf-us] [slshm] markp (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 816 points, T:1055, killed by a soldier ant 12:01 -!- spontiff has quit [Client Quit] 12:01 -!- fadein has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] stoicjin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:11536 12:05 [hdf-us] [evil] TreninA (Val Gia Fem Law), 912 points, T:2185, killed by a mountain dwarf, while fainted from lack of food 12:11 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:35197 12:12 <@Earth Traveler> ahhh 12:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1446 points, T:3183, killed by a werewolf 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:17161 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:36466 12:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4958 12:20 [hdf-eu] [hackm] stenno (Mon Trt Fem Neu), 1512 points, T:1463, killed by a giant anaconda 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 357 points, T:1337, killed by a giant bat 12:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:12641 12:30 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3908, rt[0:57:01] 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] stoicjin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:14363 12:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Bin Orc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4657 12:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:37322 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:19500 12:53 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 12:53 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:57 damn something crazy happened with 3.7 monst.c lol 12:58 aah its now in include/monsters.h 12:58 makes sense 13:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3002 13:11 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 336 points, T:607, killed by a gnome lord 13:12 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 13:13 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Sam Dwa Fem Law), 434 points, T:310, withered away 13:14 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Arc Vam Fem Neu), 94 points, T:170, killed by a fox 13:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (And-Ana And Fem Neu) has already received their quest via sticky-note, on T:53729 13:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Cav Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:909 13:21 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 323 points, T:345, killed by a large mimic 13:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed the twitching four-armed changed, on T:53895 13:27 [hdf-eu] [hackm] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 512 points, T:704, killed by a crossbow bolt 13:27 [hdf-eu] [hackm] post163 (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:27 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 13:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:6, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Bin Orc Mal Non), 4217 points, T:9010, quit 13:29 [hdf-eu] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Nbn Law), 106 points, T:63, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] post163 (Kni Inc Fem Law), 27 points, T:110, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:31 [hdf-eu] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Nbn Law), 60 points, T:191, slipped while mounting a saddled baby red dragon 13:32 [hdf-eu] [gh] post163 (Kni Elf Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, killed by kicking a wall 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4951 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Student of Waters (level 14), on T:23446 13:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:16886 13:49 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1226 points, T:2754, killed by a dwarf lord 13:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Kni Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Demonbane by Lugh, on T:5677 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:24646 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:14090, rt[3:47:31] 13:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cropper (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) stole 2800 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Manlobbi's general store, on T:20633 13:57 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Yeo Hob Mal Law), 271 points, T:928, killed by a gnome mummy 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 267428 points, T:24830, killed by a minotaur 13:59 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:14476, rt[3:52:13] 14:01 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 289 points, T:781, killed by a gas spore's explosion 14:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 4538 points, T:6411, killed by a werewolf 14:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 34 points, T:158, killed by a bear trap 14:06 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Ice Ith Mal Cha), 593 points, T:1061, killed by a rabbit 14:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] maneatingcow (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 728 points, T:1346, killed by a sewer rat 14:12 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Und Hum Fem Law), 744 points, T:1110, killed by a werejackal 14:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] TreninA (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1963 14:20 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Sam Gia Fem Law), 689 points, T:539, zombified by a dwarf zombie 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] TreninA (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1152 points, T:2519, killed by a lizard 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Goran (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 708 points, T:2149, killed by a dwarf 14:33 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Sam Gia Fem Law), 1020 points, T:809, poisoned by a rotted dwarf corpse, while frozen by a potion 14:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:23338, rt[6:54:31] 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:15331 14:36 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Ice Ith Fem Cha), 715 points, T:667, killed by a flint stone 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:1562 14:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:19897 14:45 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 810 points, T:1585, killed by the Goblin King 14:45 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Ran Gno Mal Neu), 1328 points, T:1548, killed by a dingo puppy 14:46 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:47 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:47 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Orcrist by Huan Ti, on T:8683 14:51 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 14:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 13504 points, T:9133, killed by a human mummy 14:56 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 5090 points, T:6718, killed by a werejackal 14:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Cleaver by Set, on T:20914 14:56 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1215 points, T:2097, killed by Gollum 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "+3 hawaiian shirt of decay", on T:26636, rt[1 day, 14:52:23] 14:59 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Sam Gia Mal Law), 1316 points, T:978, killed by a gnome lord, while fainted from lack of food 15:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Stormbringer by Set, on T:21134 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha), 94842 points, T:25258, petrified by a chickatrice 15:02 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5488, rt[0:37:23] 15:05 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a dragonhide bag of holding, on T:19171, rt[4:39:27] 15:07 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Nec Orc Fem Cha), 693 points, T:1369, killed by a little dog 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Pri Hum Fem Neu) found Demonbane on the floor, on T:20008 15:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (And-Ana And Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:5719 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) had a dagger entrusted to her by Thoth, on T:21572, rt[3:23:19] 15:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:6931 15:20 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:23425, rt[3:35:06] 15:23 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 919 points, T:1438, killed by a rothe 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Law) destroyed OpticSugar's ghost, the former Digger, on T:4025 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Pri Hum Fem Neu) wished for "the blessed platinum yendorian express card", got "a blessed credit card named the Platinum Yendorian Express Card", on T:22609 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 arrows on an altar, on T:4379 15:30 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 1567 points, T:1459, killed by a giant ant, while fainted from lack of food 15:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (And-Ana And Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:8485 15:31 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +3 dragonhide speed boots named LFG", on T:7261, rt[0:55:43] 15:31 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:32 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 15:32 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Law), 2789 points, T:4483, killed by an orc-captain 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Gollum, on T:23956, rt[3:48:57] 15:37 if you wish for something with negative enchantment and don't specify buc, it will be cursed 15:37 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Inf Cen Mal Una), 706 points, T:545, killed by a rock gnome 15:39 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:39 -!- NetSysFire has joined #hardfought 15:39 i wonder if there is a way to get an item that is both cursed and blessed 15:39 maybe there was an oversight somewhere 15:41 a blursed item 15:41 yes! 15:41 i thought it would be cussed 15:42 well anything that goes through bless() or curse() will avoid that 15:43 i found something i think lmao 15:43 watchu got? 15:44 i want to wiztest first :> 15:44 easiest way to check it is to wield it and print uwep->blessed and uwep->cursed 15:45 Demo: how do i run 3.7 on macos 15:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Ana Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1201 15:45 or on anything, for that matter 15:45 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 97 points, T:271, killed by a volatile mushroom's explosion 15:46 i dont think ppl are well armed enough for my apple usage instructions to work in your country 15:47 i will figure it out 15:47 i think i had it running in a docker container at some point 15:48 dont lose ur dockerfiles 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Goran's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:3218 15:49 also if u want a debugger in the container ur probably gonna wanna run with --cap-add SYS_PTRACE and --security-opt seccomp=unconfined 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Mon Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4225 15:49 i will ask homebrew first 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Mon Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:4260 15:50 homebrew only has 3.6.6 it seems 15:50 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:26164, rt[4:05:12] 15:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "the blessed Platinum Yendorian Express Card", got "a credit card named the Platinum Yendorian Express Card", on T:39004 15:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", got "a silver dragon scale mail", on T:39008 15:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 boots of speed", got "a greased pair of jungle boots", on T:23097 15:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 gauntlets of power", got "a greased pair of fencing gloves", on T:23120 15:56 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:9817, rt[1:24:57] 15:57 presumably because there is no 3.7.0 yet 15:57 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 459 points, T:752, killed by an orcish dagger 15:59 indeed 16:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2013 16:00 K2: yes generated through dalle :) pretty fitting for a procedurally generated game like nethack 16:01 malor mobileuser stenno thanks glad you like it :) 16:01 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Wiz Ith Mal Cha), 599 points, T:589, killed by a mountain dwarf 16:02 aosdict: i avoided rendering the amulet since i wanted to still leave certain things to the imagination, like the amulet, monster appearances, characters, etc that's why there is nobody present in the pictures 16:03 -!- Noisytoot has quit [Excess Flood] 16:03 -!- Noisytoot has joined #hardfought 16:04 ok but I still wanna see what it comes up with. I put "fabled amulet of yendor from the game NetHack" into dall-e and we'll see what I get 16:05 there were a lot of other really stunning images, but they didn't fit the nethack narrative, like mazes that weren't covered in fire and smoke, or castles that were beautiful, but not dark and scary enough 16:05 -!- Semilg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Mon Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Mjollnir by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:5200 16:05 yeah I see it interpreted "tower of flame" as "tower WITH flame" at one point 16:05 when i used the keywords "ghost town" for orcustown it gave me images of a western abandoned town, which makes sense in hindsight :) 16:05 aosdict: when i tried amulet it gave me various circular amulets, not very interesting to be honest 16:06 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 810 points, T:1194, killed by a garter snake 16:06 i really tried to make things seem less "real", like the silver bell is not your typical bell shape 16:07 or the book of the dead is a scroll-like thing, or vlad's tower is not so much a tower as a hewn rock thing 16:07 [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:27422, rt[1 day, 16:00:40] 16:07 and once i hit the astral plane i started using keywords like impasto impressionist paintings since i imagine things past that point to be beyond human comprehension. i find it weird to find the high altars up there just like any other regular human architecture 16:07 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Hea Elf Fem Neu), 143 points, T:241, killed by a rabbit 16:08 Moult, nethack has canonical appearances for all monsters and items via the tilesets 16:08 also very cool thing the images looked neat and it must have been annoying battling it for what you wanted 16:10 Demo yeah, true, there is a natural amount of creative interpretation going on. same with the text, i've made up parts of the story that "could" be true, and some parts are actually even wrong (e.g. i assign famine to law, pestilence to neutral, and death to chaos), but such is art :) 16:10 i also learned about I did throw "octagonal" into the prompt and it produced non circular amulets 16:13 ok, 64x64 ai generated tileset when 16:13 because you could easily scale these down and use them as the tile for "octagonal amulet" 16:13 hehehehe nice 16:13 i think you'd have problems with art style inconsitency 16:13 it would look goofy 16:13 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/File:Amulet_of_Yendor.png mmm circular or octagonal? 16:14 spherical 16:14 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a knife entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:11889, rt[1:42:26] 16:14 or is it rectangular with black corners? 16:14 perforated 16:14 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 753 points, T:1075, killed by a sonic beam 16:14 the red is the perforation leaking magic blood or something 16:15 i think i saw some art somewhere where the amulet was literally a gold letter "Y", like a bling bling necklace 16:15 moult: outstanding work, thank you 16:15 croesus's fake amulet of yendor 16:15 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Hea Hob Fem Neu), 243 points, T:119, killed by a rabbit 16:15 hothraxxa: cheers :D glad you like it! 16:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Ana Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:5176 16:22 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 553 points, T:1199, zombified by a dwarf zombie 16:22 [hdf-eu] [hackm] hackemslashem (Nec Hum Mal Cha) had Serpent's Tongue bestowed upon him by Gothuulbe, on T:21771, rt[4:54:17] 16:22 Ohh it's on 16:24 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Fla Gno Mal Neu), 104 points, T:331, killed by falling down a mine shaft 16:25 wow i got it built 16:25 without too many problems really 16:25 thats super cool 16:25 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Nec Cen Fem Cha), 118 points, T:87, withered away 16:26 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:29 Demo: how can i print uewp->blessed and uwep->cursed when wielding the item? (in wizmode) 16:29 by running the game in a debugger 16:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Bin Orc Mal Non), 946 points, T:2262, killed by a dwarf 16:30 and just wielding it and sigint ctrl+c and p uwep->blessed (gdb) or probably about the same for lldb 16:30 noted 16:30 thanks 16:34 hackemslashem: congrats on getting your variant into hdf 16:34 tx NetSys!! 6 months of grueling eye trauma is all it took :D 16:35 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Sam Gia Fem Law), 1847 points, T:894, killed by a dwarf thief, while taking off clothes 16:36 oooh new variant! congrats hackemslashem! 16:37 where can i read about this new variant? 16:37 speaking of which i've now done 4 ascensions (valk, wiz, ranger, monk), so any opinions on whether i continue doing vanilla runs until i cover all roles (and if so, which role next?), or should i switch to a variant? 16:38 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Pri Hob Fem Law), 257 points, T:275, killed by a newt 16:38 hothraxxa: https://github.com/elunna/hackem/blob/master/hackem_changelog.md 16:38 i'm a fan of healers myself 16:38 hothraxxa: also in the wiki 16:38 already? ok i confess i didn't look 16:39 moult: i suggets you try a new role but in xnethack 16:39 as i said, i like healers and it's sufficiently different form your ascensions that you'll learn from it 16:40 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Tou Trt Fem Neu), 347 points, T:353, killed by a mountain dwarf 16:42 * Moult[m] reads https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/w1m1bm/ascending_every_nethack_variant_my_review/ 16:42 [hdf-eu] [hackm] hackemslashem (Nec Hum Mal Cha), 33422 points, T:23051, killed by Mephistopheles 16:43 sigh 16:43 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Und Elf Fem Neu), 233 points, T:476, killed by a sling bullet 16:43 hackemslashem: i suggest that you mine gnollhack for some qol, especially the container handling 16:44 moult: Wiki is here https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Hack%27EM 16:44 hothraxxa: What's better with containers? I know there are some different bags for specific items 16:45 yes there are, but i'm referring to the choices you get when you a)pply or l)oot 16:45 well it didn't work, thats disappointed 16:45 but at least i learned how to debug nethack 16:46 install, and debug fwiw 16:46 if you look at my current game i can show you 16:46 ok 16:46 let me know 16:47 Demo: thx for the pointers 16:47 watchin now :) 16:47 see m, c, p, d 16:47 Oh ok I see, 16:48 * paxed is also interested 16:48 p & d are wonderful 16:48 I think that would kinda easy-ish 16:48 excellent 16:48 ph i missed c 16:49 bah. i need a chest not a coffin 16:49 if you try a new role in xnethack, one with a redesigned quest (valk, arc) is one I would recommend 16:49 eek 16:49 i did not like the mummies on the arc quest. nope no sir 16:50 it probably wouldnt be that hard to add blursed sanity checks every turn to sanity checks that run while fuzzing 16:51 would need to check buried object chain, current level object chain, invent chain, every monster on the levels minvent chain 16:51 i was looking at https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/ddd358aa03cb62cc84405fad1fc333201d0d43eb/src/objnam.c#L4416 for blursiness 16:51 ah im thinking cross variant 16:52 read.c apply.c always good spots to find easy bugs in variants that actually add stuff 16:52 just add a test for blusiness to the sanity checking, and fuzztest away? ;) 16:52 +r 16:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Goran (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 3686 points, T:4455, killed by a Woodland-elf 16:55 oh wait i did it wrong 16:55 lets see 16:56 or if you're running under debugger, just do break blahblah if (obj->cursed && obj->blessed) and then fuz away 16:56 hmm i have to read into fuzzing ^_^" 16:56 still much to learn i have to admit 16:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (And-Ana And Fem Neu) averted death, on T:18218 16:57 in 3.7, you can just do #debugfuzzer to start it. in 3.6.x, you need to run under debugger and do set iflags.debug_fuzzer = 1 16:57 (iirc, i cba to check it) 16:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] klepto (Ana And Fem Neu), 196323 points, T:18267, killed by a Coure Eladrin, while sleeping 16:58 thx 17:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Ana Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:8265 17:02 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Bin Orc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3476 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Mon Hum Fem Neu) destroyed quervo1's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:7746 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Mon Hum Fem Neu) found Magicbane on the floor, on T:7748 17:05 hothraxxa: why xnethack vs other variants? 17:09 it's the best 3.7 variant imo, and it's not so different that you'll be lost 17:10 gnollhack is an excellent 3.7 variant but it's quite different from nethack in many ways 17:10 gnollhack is a 3.6.2 variant 17:10 oops 17:10 yeah sorry 17:10 there is no such thing as a 3.7 variant cause there is no 3.7, only pre3.7 :P 17:10 well 17:11 i think i was understood 17:11 xnethack is the best 3.7 variant (because it's the only one that's maintained) 17:11 3.7 is the best 3.7 variant 17:11 because it becomes the next 3.7 17:11 therefore its the best at variating from 3.7 :P 17:11 that might be. let me put it this way: it's the best post-3.6 variamt 17:11 grrr 17:12 anyway that's just my opinion 17:12 i mostly agree with shadowhawk's reviews but not entirely 17:13 i should revisit to see what eh said about xnethack 17:13 my opinions on xnethack are like my opinions on spl 17:13 based on versions from years ago and outdated 17:13 I wonder if "not so different that you'll be lost" will hold up after gehennom redesign. I mean the point of that is that vanilla gehennom has been the same boring mostly linear maze-filled thing for ages 17:14 [hdf-eu] [hackm] hackemslashem (Und Hum Fem Neu), 1058 points, T:2044, killed by a rabid rabbit 17:14 but then, it's later in the game, and a player getting that far can presumably roll with the punches 17:14 well xnethack does revise gehennom already 17:14 it's better than vanilla 17:14 imo 17:15 current xnh gehennom is better than vanilla only because literally anything is better than vanilla 17:15 who's shadowhawk? you mean shadow_rider? 17:15 fuck me did i do that? 17:15 i did :( 17:15 one of the things i like about hdf's vanilla is that i can have a UI like this: https://thinkmoult.com/assets/nethack1.png is that possible in xnethack and other variants? 17:16 in my defence shadowhawk is an irc acquiantance on another server 17:16 yes, xnethack has all the UI stuff that is in hdf vanilla 17:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the Paladin of Shan Lai Ching, on T:21949, rt[21:23:42] 17:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:21951, rt[21:24:17] 17:17 it is currently *checks notes* 7 months behind vanilla, but will merge vanilla in again for the next release 17:17 how many status lines can you fit down the side like that? 17:18 aosdict: so can i just copy my nhrc and it'll "just work"? https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Moult/nethack/Moult.nhrc 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:66499 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Plane of Earth, on T:66499 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5th time), on T:66500 17:21 hm. why does everyone use green for blessed? it clearly glows light blue when i bless it 17:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) completed his quest without incident, on T:22126, rt[21:29:50] 17:23 [hdf-eu] [hackm] hackemslashem (Fla Elf Mal Law), 858 points, T:1320, killed by a hobgoblin 17:23 hothraxxa: maybe because i copied that nhrc from someone else mostly :) 17:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Plane of Air, on T:66631 17:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Plane of Fire, on T:66677 17:27 it's well organized. i wish mine were that nice 17:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Plane of Water, on T:66690 17:28 gnollhack needs four status lines. i don't know who well that would work in a sidebar 17:28 i mean how 17:29 in my current configuration i get some status line clipping so i might experiment 17:31 also moult: you really should add some MSGTYPE=stop lines 17:32 they will save your life 17:32 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:64584, rt[1 day, 10:23:14] 17:32 eg MSGTYPE=stop "The (couatl|.*eel|kraken) swings itself around you!" 17:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1548 points, T:2257, killed by a gnome lord 17:33 hm. i should add python 17:33 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:35957 17:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Mal Una) averted death (killed by the Wizard of Yendor), on T:64600, rt[1 day, 10:26:07] 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (gelatinous cubes), on T:1677, rt[0:24:35] 17:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Dem Mal Una), 2046083 points, T:64609, killed by the Wizard of Yendor 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8598 17:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:42178 17:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:42185 17:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:42328 17:45 [hdf-eu] [hackm] nh2465 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide t-shirt of drain resistance", on T:22882, rt[7:42:38] 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:42609 17:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:42612 17:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3001, rt[0:41:37] 18:00 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:43050 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:43355 18:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:43360 18:14 -!- fadein has joined #hardfought 18:14 -!- fadein has quit [Client Quit] 18:15 hothraxxa: good tip! i will 18:15 [hdf-us] [sp] cilantro (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 199 points, T:789, killed by a kobold zombie 18:17 -!- fadein has joined #hardfought 18:18 -!- fadein has quit [Client Quit] 18:19 -!- fadein has joined #hardfought 18:22 [hdf-us] [sp] cilantro (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 110 points, T:688, killed by Ms. Pakka Pakka, the shopkeeper 18:23 hothraxxa: i think i might take up your suggestion on xnethack, it sounds like a gentle deviation from vanilla with enough interesting aspects to make it seem "different" but not too much 18:23 any recommendations on what alignment / race to play a healer with? 18:23 You fall into a pit! You land on a set of sharp iron spikes! You feel tough! You must have been leading a healthy life-style. 18:24 [hdf-us] [sp] cilantro (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 13 points, T:119, killed by a sewer rat 18:25 nabru hah 18:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4562, rt[1:05:07] 18:27 [hdf-us] [sp] cilantro (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 10 points, T:1360, died of starvation 18:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) polymorphed his first item, on T:42880 18:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:779 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:44771 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Plane of Earth, on T:44771 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:44772 18:33 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:7600, rt[2:50:22] 18:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Bin Orc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4405 18:33 [hdf-eu] [hackm] nh2465 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Grund, on T:23746, rt[8:24:16] 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Mon Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1658 18:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Plane of Air, on T:44894 18:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Plane of Fire, on T:44987 18:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Mon Gia Fem Cha) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:5766, rt[1:18:50] 18:41 the xan pricks your left leg! you leg feels better! 18:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Bin Orc Mal Non) wished for "the blessed fixed +2 tie-dye shirt of shambhala", on T:5094 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1231 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Plane of Water, on T:45160 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided cobras, on T:45168 18:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3506 18:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2868 points, T:1854, killed by a yeti 18:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:28571, rt[1 day, 17:59:48] 18:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:28577, rt[1 day, 18:00:17] 19:01 crunchbubba acupuncture xan 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5th time), on T:45543 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8261 points, T:5275, quit 19:06 [hdf-eu] [hackm] nh2465 (Cav Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Ishtar, on T:24476, rt[8:56:36] 19:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] desertgreg (Ran Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a runed dagger on an altar, on T:3039 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] desertgreg (Ran Orc Fem Cha) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3043 19:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "2 uncursed potions of confusion", got "a potion of confusion", on T:45688 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:45849 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3727 points, T:6384, killed by an owlbear 19:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Death, on T:45872 19:22 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Val Hum Fem Law), 613 points, T:917, killed by a gnome lord 19:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 1028 points, T:2526, killed by a giant bat 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] desertgreg (Ran Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4474 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Death (2nd time), on T:45890 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Bar Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Cleaver by Crom, on T:3707 19:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Death (3rd time), on T:45904 19:26 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Bar Vam Mal Neu), 695 points, T:567, killed by zor's ghost 19:30 -!- a134 has joined #hardfought 19:31 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Bar Cen Mal Neu), 1248 points, T:652, diseased by a dwarf zombie 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Bar Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4215 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:45959 19:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 1960 points, T:1067, killed by a gnome 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Bar Hum Mal Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:4350 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:791, rt[0:05:54] 19:35 thank you Moult, adding "acupuncture xan" as a bogusmon 19:35 -!- malor has joined #hardfought 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Bar Hum Mal Neu) found Sting carried by a monster, on T:4476 19:37 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 981 points, T:1084, killed by a gnome mummy 19:38 aosdict: hehehe my pleasure :D 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Death (5th time), on T:46018 19:39 just started a new xnh game as a gnomish healer and i'm already seeing some nice differences, like ":" on a monster shows the monster lookup stats, nice. also an engraving. 19:40 also i think my inventory is showing weights, that's awesome 19:40 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Yeo Hob Mal Law), 411 points, T:467, killed by a wand 19:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 1110 points, T:1247, zombified by a dwarf zombie, while praying 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:46033 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 209 points, T:1826, killed by a bear trap 19:43 [hdf-us] [gnoll] karibou (Ran Elf Mal Neu), 215000 points, T:32773, killed by a war troll 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) found Sunsword carried by a monster, on T:46056 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the high priestess of Set (2nd time), on T:46060 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2726 points, T:2753, killed by a gnome king 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] PostageStamp (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 3095708 points, T:46060, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/PostageStamp/nethack/dumplog/1671309179.nh.html 19:48 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 91 points, T:443, killed by a sewer rat 19:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1006 points, T:1573, killed by an invisible dwarf 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 882 points, T:1790, killed by a kitten, while sleeping 19:57 -!- a134 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 7 points, T:14, burned by molten lava 19:58 -!- a197 has joined #hardfought 19:59 !lastgame a1 19:59 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/a/a1/nethack/dumplog/1672275374.nh.html 20:01 cheap lesson to experiment with lava with 0 exp! 20:02 lava in starting room, what will the devteam think of next 20:02 I have no idea what was going on there. lava in the start room? 20:03 hallucinating? 20:03 themed room 20:03 ? 20:04 3 traps? 20:04 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Themed_room 20:05 specifically "random dungeon feature" 20:05 a 3.7 thing? 20:05 yeah 20:05 [hdf-us] [nh343] l5 (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2842 20:05 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 955 points, T:1353, killed by a giant mosquito 20:06 I am very slowly and very badly writing a bot, and this makes me cry 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh343] l5 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 13641 points, T:3481, killed by a leocrotta 20:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1658, rt[0:11:50] 20:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] OhNoNotAgain (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 335 points, T:1173, killed by a cave spider 20:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Bin Orc Mal Non), 9216 points, T:13509, quit 20:14 aosdict, as you are a developer(right?) how adverse would developers be to adding an indicator of "end of message" to game output? 20:14 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Pri Orc Mal Cha), 95 points, T:150, killed by a serval 20:16 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) killed Gollum, on T:2119, rt[0:16:45] 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1583 points, T:2467, killed by a Woodland-elf 20:19 if you mean like the vanilla devteam adding an "end of pline()" message to every pline() call in the game I can't imagine it would get much traction 20:20 something like ascii 7 (BELL) (twice)  to the output as it then expects the player to react. telnet is not very friendly that way 20:21 [hdf-au] [xnh] Moult (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2047 20:21 something that most terminals would ignore (yes, audible bells enabled terms would make this a no go) but inspecting the telnet stream would allow a program to know that it was time for the player to react 20:21 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Con Hum Fem Cha), 231 points, T:403, killed by a goblin 20:22 I suggest that because today I was trying to use telnet "are you there?" protocol to do this, and it responds with (BELL) 20:22 but so far that is not working well 20:23 but in general a "this is the end of server output, time for player to do next command" 20:23 (BELL) is used to denote end of string sometimes currently 20:24 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Rog Hob Mal Neu), 614 points, T:387, killed by a gnome lord 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 241 points, T:1459, killed by a small mimic 20:30 I suppose that might work? but it'd have to be added every single place in the code where it waits on user input 20:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 124 points, T:156, killed by a dart 20:33 I should look more at the code. I don't mean to annoy. fweep (on IRC nathack) told me once that a bot (that ascended?) sent "##(CR)" every turn to do this, but that give me hives and would make playback painful to watch. I am trying to figure out a better way without changing the vanilla codebase, but was curious about possible codebase changes. 20:33 thanks. I will continue to try to get it to work with current codebase 20:34 [hdf-us] [slth] slarty (Off Hum Fem Law), 434 points, T:1721, killed by a jermlaine, while sleeping 20:34 maybe stenno has some useful contribution here, it vaguely makes me think of something nodehack might have already solved 20:35 I will bug stenno at a future date if there is no response tonight. thanks for your time 20:35 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1839759 points, T:72412, crushed to death underneath a drawbridge 20:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) found Sunsword carried by a monster, on T:28729 20:36 the driver for this question is that things worked better with my local  wifi captive server, but now I an "travelling" and using NAO , and the lag is breaking everything 20:37 crunchbubba: bothack used ## to synchronize, but vt_tiledata sends a certain escape code once its waiting for input 20:38 after bothack played on NAOhack, it used that code to properly synchronize (iirc) 20:38 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Vt_tiledata 20:38 I do not know what vt_tiledata is. I am running pure ascii (if that is relevant) 20:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Ogresmasher by Set, on T:28834 20:39 End of data. NetHack has finished sending data, and is waiting for input. 20:40 that is exactly the kind of thing I want 20:40 yep that one 20:40 but for pure ascii 20:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Geryon, on T:28909, rt[1 day, 19:03:25] 20:40 what part of vt_tiledata is not using ascii? 20:40 it sends an escape char followed by other ascii characters 20:40 its pure ascii, vt_tiledata is getting ignored by terminals 20:41 vt_tiledata needs to be enabled in your rcfile 20:41 sorry for my confusion, I have never seen that URL before, but I am not using tiles 20:41 its not related to tiles (not directly) 20:41 awesome 20:41 it can be used for tiles 20:42 but also makes it easier to parse for e.g. bots 20:42 I bookmarked that url, will look again when ... sober 20:42 (and nodehack) 20:42 awesome 20:42 thanks! 20:43 that sounds like Just The Thing 20:43 I didn't know about this either (or else I would have just said "o ya vt_tiledata does what you want") 20:44 thank you both, I have been banging my head on desk for days about this 20:46 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Val Hum Fem Law), 259 points, T:445, killed by a boulder 20:47 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Options#vt_tiledata   looks like the answer 20:49 if you ascii stupid question then you get a stupid ansii 20:49 ansi has only one i 20:51 the fact that bothack read vt_tiledata which (at that point) was a patch on nao was a bit controversial 20:51 we had to convince krajj to do it lol 20:51 (iirc) 20:52 because that would mean it probably couldn't work properly on unpatched vanilla 20:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1533 points, T:2645, killed by a blue jelly 20:53 (returns with another drink) you mean bothack (I was unaware of that name) used vt_tiledata to detect end of output *and* sent ##(CR) ? 20:53 this is all hearsay to me as I have not tried to find previous botcode 20:54 it sent it first, then stopped sending it and instead reading from vt_tiledata 20:54 well, can you read clojure? 20:54 https://github.com/krajj7/BotHack 20:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2086 20:55 I was at one point a professional Lisp programer, perhaps before you were born, but am trying not to look at previous botcode 20:55 shrug 20:56 in any case, vt_tiledata is probably the solution to all your immediate parsing/scraping needs 20:56 that was not meant as an insult. I bookmarked that url. I am doing this for fun/learning and am not afraid to go down dark alleys to a dead end 20:56 yes. thanks! 20:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law), 156 points, T:419, killed by a small mimic 20:58 is there any sense from you 2 about when 3.7 might be released? I am trying to figure out whether I should try writing to target 3.6 or 3.7 20:58 there is a lot of super interesting stuff regarding to how nethack displays things that you will encounter 20:59 i have no information about 3.7 release 20:59 expand that thought? telnet does SUPER strange stuff to try to optimize characters sent 21:00 for example IBMgraphic vs. DECgraphics 21:00 but I think that is telnet specific and not nethack specific. no real basis for that idea 21:00 I am ignoring both of those 21:00 no one knows about the 3.7 release. even the devteam doesn't seem to know 21:00 also how windows work (and vt_tiledata helps with that) 21:01 I would target 3.7 simply because you don't want to write something and have it become outdated in short order 21:01 but for example, telnet will do things like "set scrolling region, do newline" to draw a corridor above any previously drawn dungeon line when it's just a vertical corridor 21:02 and perhaps I am misparsing the stream, but there seem to be repeated curses commands that are identical in a row 21:03 curses? 21:03 or HOME (move to 1,1) and clear whole display (which does not care about cursor position) and then moveto(x,y) 21:03 so you are not using default tty windowport? 21:03 i don't think vt_tiledata works for curses 21:03 uhoh 21:04 just switch to tty lol 21:04 (perhaps) FML? 21:04 I am interpreting curses 21:05 doesn't curses also have something like 'waiting for input' 21:05 no 21:05 rip 21:05 -!- anselmus has joined #hardfought 21:06 why does your bot have to interpret curses? 21:06 anselmus, greetings well met fellow. Hail! 21:06 maybe it just works with curses anyway 21:06 stalker 21:06 because that is what I was doing manually when I started thinking about a bot 21:06 * aosdict gives anselmus a ring of see invisible 21:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Snickersnee by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:966 21:07 I wil try vt_* tomorrow 21:07 kk 21:08 but the "detect end of server output" thing is such a PITA that I will try anything 21:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1563 21:14 ...and I am so oldfartian that curses is familiar 21:16 in the source there is an annotation to the tiles: * Only for TTY_GRAPHICS. 21:16 ow 21:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5541, rt[1:18:41] 21:19 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had a magical dagger entrusted to her by Anhur, on T:21072, rt[5:08:56] 21:19 added that to the article 21:20 the tty graphics is the older windowport 21:20 its called TTY_TILES_ESCCODES in thte source 21:21 crunchbubba, have you read the section of the guidebook about accessibility? 21:21 no? url? 21:22 https://www.nethack.org/v366/Guidebook.html#toc_9.15 21:22 some of these options sound useful for robot based reading of nethack state 21:23 I have bookmarked that for reading later 21:26 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:21568, rt[5:16:47] 21:28 thanks, Demo 21:29 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:34 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 630 points, T:2574, killed by a giant rat, while fainted from lack of food 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:17180 21:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Frozty (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:29063, rt[1 day, 19:27:45] 21:41 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:1620, rt[0:07:11] 21:43 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 781 points, T:1696, killed by a piranha 21:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Gia Mal Una), 12296 points, T:8199, killed by a gnoll cleric, while paralyzed by a monster 21:52 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 586 points, T:1518, zombified by a diseased dwarf corpse 21:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2019 points, T:3623, killed by a chameleon imitating a minotaur 21:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (master liches), on T:28559 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bugpowder (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5828 22:03 aah, forgot i was a gnome. whoops. munch much gnomes are tasty. 22:08 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 25308 points, T:16853, killed by an owlbear 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Mon Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:29197 22:09 -!- a197 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:38 [hdf-us] [hackm] zor (Mon Gia Fem Law), 339 points, T:389, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 1553 points, T:2435, crunched in the head by an iron ball 22:46 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 22:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:54885, rt[16:06:06] 22:50 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:02 Moult[m]: was it at least pureed? 23:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Ptah, on T:55846, rt[16:18:52] 23:03 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1276 points, T:4825, killed by a dwarf 23:04 [hdf-au] [xnh] Moult (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 536 points, T:3869, killed by a sewer rat 23:05 NetSysFire: hah no it was a corpse on the ground. there really should be an easier way to remove the intrinsic. 23:05 maybe praying or sacrificing 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Pri Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:38477 23:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:24752 23:30 [hdf-au] [xnh] Moult (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:32, killed by a dart 23:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha) was bestowed with Stormbringer by Kos, on T:26415 23:31 huh, quick death 23:38 <@Earth Traveler> odd i stepped on an antimagic field and ended up with more power than my new maximum 23:38 <@Earth Traveler> well maybe 23:39 [hdf-au] [xnh] Moult (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 273 points, T:512, killed by a giant bat 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 4787 points, T:6472, killed by a gecko 23:49 -!- a142 has joined #hardfought 23:51 Aggravate monster can be stolen by gremlins. 23:52 Not remotely reliable, though. 23:52 Also the magical explosion effect can increase max power iirc. 23:52 <@Earth Traveler> my screen said: 23:52 <@Earth Traveler> Pw: 8 (7) 23:52 Ah. 23:52 Quite different, that. 23:53 Probable bug. 23:59 [hdf-au] [xnh] Moult (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 113 points, T:1194, killed by a giant rat, while sleeping