00:05 !who 00:05 K2: [hdf-us] dustsquid [un] bouquet [evil] zor [evil] malor [gnoll] Bourne [dyn] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] ranchyang96 [nh370] omghax [evil] 00:05 [hdf-au] [evil] omghax (Tou Gno Mal Neu), 8 points, T:14, killed by trying to drink molten lava 00:06 EvilHack updated (all servers) 00:06 ^ new version 0.8.1 00:06 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 695 points, T:1426, killed by the Goblin King 00:09 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 00:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:10 -!- Zumbah has joined #hardfought 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Mon Hum Mal Law), 1905 points, T:2533, killed by a death ray 00:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:83190 00:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide tshirt of decay", on T:83628 00:40 -!- Furey has joined #hardfought 00:47 -!- binMonkey0 has joined #hardfought 00:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Mon Hum Mal Law), 427 points, T:2393, killed by a brown mold 00:49 -!- binMonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:51 <@hackemslashem> I believe splice has done away with the draining mechanic and instead gives you roughly twice the nutrition for draining while attacking 00:52 <@hackemslashem> A good change, draining is pretty tedious and not very rewarding anyway. I'm not sure if there is any compensation with regards to gaining intrinsics though 00:55 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 00:56 -!- Furey has joined #hardfought 01:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] a1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3 points, T:63, killed by a jackal 01:10 -!- Viking667 has joined #hardfought 01:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] maneatingcow (Pri Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Patriarch (level 26), on T:79874 01:12 !lastgame nh13d brickviking 01:12 Viking667: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/brickviking/nh13d/dumplog/1671074421.nh13d.txt 01:15 Yeesh. Ran into a problem - never found any food rations, and not enough corpses to eat. Does someone have a "modern" compile tree of nethack-1.3d? Mine can't compile with my current compiler (gcc-8.3.1 on Fedora 28). 01:19 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 01:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2389 01:36 !lastgame xnh brickviking 01:36 Viking667: No last game for (xnh,brickviking). 01:36 heh. I'll bet that's because it hasn't finished yet. 01:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 609 points, T:2081, killed by a gnome lord 01:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3853 01:44 -!- d[-_-]b has joined #hardfought 01:47 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Mjollnir by Hermes, on T:2930 01:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4228 points, T:4167, killed by an ogre, while sleeping 01:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Vorpal Blade by Hermes, on T:3704 01:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1074 points, T:4399, killed by a gnome 01:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1514 02:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 77264 points, T:22471, killed by a warg 02:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Fem Una), 1878 points, T:2946, died of starvation, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Vorpal Blade by Hermes, on T:1893 02:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 1459 points, T:3827, killed by a gnome lord 02:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 882 points, T:2757, killed by a kobold lord 02:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1524 points, T:1535, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 02:15 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:15 glad to see this many people still playing nethack lol 02:15 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 02:15 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 02:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 310 points, T:1428, killed by a hobbit, while sleeping 02:21 -!- mekkis has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:21 -!- mekkis_ has joined #hardfought 02:23 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:23 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 02:23 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 02:24 -!- rld has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:24 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 02:24 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 03:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] carr0t (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found Sunsword carried by a monster, on T:45728 03:08 [hdf-au] [un] Orcranger (Con Dwa Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1492, rt[0:07:14] 03:08 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:20 would be about seven people mentioned in the past couple of hours 03:22 By the way, I happened to find an updated-for-modern (as in 2006-era) linux compilation for 1.3d - I just have to track down some sort of linting program. 03:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3211 03:33 Viking667: https://github.com/bhaak/NetHack-1.3d 03:34 heh. I had this other one from sourceforge. But I'll take a quick look at yours too... how recently was it "tweaked"/ 03:34 err, forget that last question, git will tell me. 03:36 oh. Right. This IS the sourceforge release, ported over to git. 03:36 are you talking to me or am i not seeing some other people talking 03:36 err, github, rather. 03:36 havent used IRC like ever 03:37 twas talking with bhaak, but generally you can speak to everyone, the context should be clear by surrounding lines and often timestamps 03:37 also ported to git, as the one on SF is in Mercurial 03:37 you could have found it faster by looking at the wiki https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/NetHack_1.3d#Availability 03:37 To address someone specifically, you'd start the line with their name and :, i.e. bheek: saying something 03:37 bhaak: Hey, I got there in the end. I'm still getting to grips with the wiki. 03:38 bhaak: yeah, I pulled it down using the mercurial repo commands. 03:38 ooook sorry i think i disconnected then joined again by accident in the middle of a conversation 03:38 bhaak: Are you the author in both? (i.e. the sf tree and the git tree) 03:39 rather maintainer 03:39 fair enough 03:39 Zumbah: yeah, that happens a bit. 03:39 the one from 2006 was somebody else, who made it compilable on modern compilers 03:40 Ah, right. Well, modern for their era. I still get lots of warnings for every. Single. File. Compiled. Yeesh.... 03:40 brb 03:40 I just ignore them :) 03:40 Why are yall tryna get old nethack? 03:40 I added the bits for the public server / Junethack integration 03:40 nostalgia or you prefer that version? 03:43 I did it so people can play it in junethack and see what a bad game it was :-} 03:43 lmao 03:43 that reminds me 03:44 used to play this game when i was like 12, 11 years ago. Dwarf fortress steam release made me much more interested in going deeper than i did back then 03:44 i used to think nethack was the simplest game of all time lmao 03:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 4820 points, T:5958, killed by a fire ant 03:44 had no idea it was anything like this back then 03:45 still thought it was banger though 03:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:51 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:52 I've been around way longer, but didn't get into computers (as such) until 1990, when I bought my own ancient XT. I'd already rubbed shoulders with a project that involved an Apple II hooked up to a CCD, and shoving data out for further processing by a PC. 03:52 I think that used sneakernet 03:53 Nothing to do with Nethack back then, but that's around my era. 03:53 and the Apple II + PC project was being worked with back in 1987 03:54 to be around back then wouldve been legendary man 03:54 Yah. Computers back then were a different beast entirely from todays 03:54 I'm 55 so I've been around a bit. 03:55 although have you seen this new AI shit. I dont mean to be rude at all but it is going to be nice to be a little younger for the AI revolution 03:55 im convinced within 20 years maybe even 10 its going to be world changing 03:55 pffft. Couldn't really give a monkeys for the new AI. 03:55 you gotta look into the newest AI stuff its completely mindblowing 03:55 About the only way it'll work properly is if it stops people from messing up so much. 03:56 i mean its like ALMOST at the point where it can write better code of itself 03:56 Otherwise it's all a bad dream like it was in the fifties. And the sixties. And the eighties. 03:56 it is almost a bad dream even now. its scary 03:57 Once it gets good enough to explain HOW it's better, then it's getting good enough to consider. 03:57 i.e. once AI can explain it for itself. 03:57 its not there yet but if you used cleverbot or something back in the day, the newest openAI chat bot will blow your mind 03:57 it can write its own code but i guarantee most of it is from google 03:57 I stay well away from chatbots 03:58 like you tell it to write a blackjack application and bam 10 seconds later you have one thats fucntional 03:58 especially chatbots that talk about source code. 03:59 Because odds are (unless the chatbot provides suitable attribution) the code it pulls up hasn't been attributed properly, or doesn't work as well as may be expected. I.e. no system-killing bugs, no exploits, no trampling on Jenny Coder's copyrighted work. 04:00 I really REALLY don't want another debacle like Linux had back in 2006 with SCO 04:00 i feel like thats only because it hasnt been trained specifically for that though, once that open AI leaks youll be able to train it yourself 04:00 Only if you've got the machines for it. 04:00 open AI image gen has been leaked and ive been experimenting with it and it really is next level 04:01 Anyhow, by that stage, you'll have a bot that can play NetHack optimally and get far higher numbers of ascendencies. 04:01 it would be so fun to make a bot to play this game 04:01 I thought about it. For about ten seconds. 04:01 could prob do that for your PHD thesis lmao 04:03 Well, if Brian May can get his Master's in Astrophysics, then ... what's stopping the rest of us, right? ;-) 04:03 Now. Let's see if you know who Brian May is. 04:04 [hdf-au] [un] Orcranger (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 580 points, T:2348, killed by an iguana, while frozen by a monster's gaze 04:06 -!- d[-_-]b has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:27 *aggressive googling* 04:28 yeah dude i know who he is 04:28 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 04:28 man ive seen the new queen movie i didnt even know who he was lmao 04:28 thats insane he has a PHD is astrophysics 04:28 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:29 -!- d[-_-]b has joined #hardfought 04:29 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:29 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 04:29 "Brian may is an English guitarist, singer, songwriter, and astrophysicist" lol 04:31 damn my nethack seems to be completely frozen 04:31 and it crashed 04:31 shit 04:32 luckily my save is literally where it crashed thats lucky 04:34 Ah well. I don't have to take up time on Hardfought for 1.3d any more... 04:34 -!- d[-_-]b has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:34 some of the other variants, on the other hand ... 04:34 Makes me wonder what the hardfought patches are. 04:39 bhaak: Only one real difference between the mercurial and the git (one extra mod to save.c that didn't make it back to sourceforge yet) 04:40 -!- d[-_-]b has joined #hardfought 04:45 Well well well. Lookie what I found... hardfought's changes. 04:47 ? 04:47 i wanna see too 04:54 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:54 I should push out a commit for the hg repository that it's being migrated to github 04:56 -!- d[-_-]b has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:56 -!- version has joined #hardfought 05:01 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 05:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 05:04 Could always do like nethack did and create a MOVE2GIT branch... 05:04 s/branch/entry/ 05:05 I think the MOVE2GIT is an artifact of the git migration 05:05 05:07 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:13 Mind you, commenting out the removal of the bones/saves files is about the only thing I can find different. 05:14 I am guessing the removal was probably valid when upgrading from earlier versions of the code, but not quite so relevant when you're simply putting code into place after some fixes. 05:14 So what's this all about then 05:16 Okay. In the original sources, in the makefiles, there's a pair of commands to remove bone files and save files when installing newly-compiled code into the destination. 05:16 (sources for nh-1.3d) 05:20 Incidentally, I did find out that the sources won't compile on FreeBSD currently. 05:21 [hdf-eu] [un] RoelandB (Cav Vam Mal Neu), 265 points, T:1059, killed by a gecko, while fainted from lack of food 05:22 Ah 05:22 ... oh yeah. That's roughly how I died a few hours ago. 05:22 (i.e. I was fainted from hunger, and got killed by a monster.) 05:22 That much was clear, yes 05:25 sorry, wasn't sure you'd been around for that first one. 05:27 -!- malor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:32 One of the reasons it won't compile under FreeBSD is because they removed gets, and the code would have to be rewritten for more modern standards...ahem. 05:35 erm.... better forget that last comment, it seems it was in error. 05:35 viking667, do you mean that 3.7 does not compile on freebsd? 05:36 I wasn't, but "roughly how I died a few hours ago" didn't leave much room to interpret what you meant. 05:37 cbus: no, that's not what I was referring to. I was referring to the code that bhaak's maintaining for 1.3d 05:38 ah ok 05:38 I was a bit confused about it 05:38 have you tried 3.7 on freebsd btw? 05:38 (just curious) 05:39 Hi cbus 05:39 hey umbire 05:40 I haven't got it compiled yet, just pulled it down from github just now and I'm looking through for the insturcions 05:40 istntructoins 05:40 bah. Instructinos. 05:41 instrutcoins 05:41 pffft. Can't type it properly. Instructions. whew. 05:41 Nine times that took me to finally get right. 05:42 I just thought "in-strut-coins" was a particularly funny spelling 05:43 -!- Semilg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:44 Anyhow, just lookin..... hang on, is it in ports? 05:44 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 05:44 drunk nethack time wish me luck gentlemen 05:44 prepare for death message 05:46 "drunk"? 05:47 lol how do i link a picture in here 05:48 is that a thing 05:48 I mean yeah but what are you linking 05:48 You'd leave a http://here.the.place/picture.jpg 05:48 me getting assaulted by a rust monster 05:49 sure 05:49 any non-rustable weapons on hand? 05:49 disposable projectiles 05:49 etc. 05:50 very sharp bone chopsticks, even... if that's a thing. 05:50 not enough 05:50 Not even the funereal ones? 05:51 9 crossbow bolts and 3 poison darts didnt even dent the fucker 05:51 'of course im a barbarian so the crossbow is basically a flute in my hands 05:51 Got teleport spell yet? 05:51 Ah. So no teleporting then. 05:51 theres a stairwell right here but i want to kill a rust monster lol 05:52 got a lot of scrolls might just yolo and read them for an enchant armor 05:52 YDMT. 05:53 like my third run think its time for a YDMT 05:53 Legit just beat it to death with your bare hands. 05:53 runnit 05:53 queue the doom music 05:53 You're not likely to have a shortage of good armor at this point. 05:53 my apologies... my "YDMT" is "You'll Die Many Times" 05:54 I mean rust monsters aren't exactly lethal, just hella annoying. 05:54 Legitimately you want to fight it bare-handed if you're trying to preserve your good weapons. 05:54 Far as body armor you should have a cloak to throw on real quick. 05:54 That only works if it's got less HP than you've got left to lose from its attacks. 05:55 already had a dwarf cloak on 05:55 :V 05:55 @?rust monster 05:55 rust monster (R) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 18 | Res: none | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Atk: 0d0 touch rust, 0d0 touch rust, 0d0 passive rust | Align: 0 | genocidable, swims, metallivore, infravis, passes-bars 05:55 never even damaged me just rusted all my shit which i knew from DND 05:55 What HP damage 05:55 thats why i wanna kill it lol 05:55 zero damage? You gotta be kidding, right? 0d0? 05:55 can run back a few floors and grab my dropped armor though 05:55 It's a rust monster. 05:55 yeah homie did 0 damage\ 05:55 It rusts stuff. 05:56 Like it says on the tin. 05:56 i know what a rust monster is 05:56 hm. Right. I didn't. I'm new to that one. 05:56 I wasn't directing that at you! 05:56 but yeah, literally all it does. 05:56 Yah, sorry. Furthest I've got in the game is about level 4 or something so yeah, I'm pretty rube. 05:57 Ah, I tend to err on side of experience. Need to work on that 05:57 the rust monster and I both ran into a teleportation trap 05:57 bouta track that fucker down 05:57 But in any case Viking, you either have a non-rustable weapon or you legit just go barehanded 05:57 Or use something like a random pile or darts 05:58 I was told that over in #nethack too... most people on there are relative nh gods compared to me. 05:58 had a bunch of rocks, crossbow bolts and a crossbow, and darts, but it didnt dissuade him lol 05:58 idc if i die here i need a reset 05:58 told that "we've all played a bunch of games, and legit have years of experience" was what they meant to say. 05:58 lmao 05:59 if i use a potion of invisibilty will he be able to counter attack? 05:59 Yeah? 05:59 It's a shame you didn't have a cloak of dislocation 05:59 Displacement? 05:59 ...or whatever. Yeah, that. 05:59 But yeah, monsters that can't see you will just swing where they think you are. 05:59 bitch ass rust monster 05:59 come get these hands 05:59 that a good tip tho thanks 06:00 And that's from someone who only got to level 4. ha. 06:00 if my sword is thoroughly rusted is it basically garbage? 06:00 We do have a wiki for people who don't mind spoilers and want to brush up. 06:00 or is it still better than fists 06:00 ive been binging the wiki 06:01 Rusting affects to-hit significantly. 06:01 not much info on what rust does though 06:01 And I've been deliberately staying away from wiki so I don't spoil the erm... surprises. 06:01 ah i see 06:01 If it's thoroughly rusted then you're probably gonna have a hard time actually hitting, but it can't get rusted any further, so. 06:01 its one sentence 06:01 Still, I much prefer not getting things rusted to begin with. 06:01 what about armor, worth wearing if its rusted or take it off 06:02 See, that depends more on the armor. 06:02 What's your AC down to now? 06:02 i cant even find that stat 06:02 7? 06:02 There should be a literal AC number near your HP. 06:02 its 7 06:02 ouch. 06:02 theres no AC but theres a DEF stat 06:02 You can usually find replacements pretty easy if you've been through the mines. 06:02 !whereis Zumbah 06:02 Umbire: [hdf-us] Zumbah [nh4]: No details available 06:02 Oh, you're playing nh4. 06:02 hmm 06:02 yes i am 06:02 Bit out of my wheelhouse, that. 06:03 I have the source, not compiled that yet. 06:03 Same principle applies, though, mines should have plenty of leftover armor. 06:03 gunna change to normal nethack now that i know how to make my inventory permanently stay 06:03 im on level 10 06:03 "permanently" stay? 06:03 He's talking about curses. 06:03 yeah like on the side of your screen 06:03 Ah. 06:03 only playing nh4 for that 06:04 Yeah, literally just enable the curses option. 06:04 [i] can check inventory at any time, but most people that know of curses prefer to have it on so they can check on the fly. 06:04 I'll go start up my QT version, gives me most of the things I want for that. That, or I run Vultures instead. 06:07 https://imgur.com/a/BdWiAMp 06:07 got em 06:08 time to read all these scrolls for enchant weapon 06:08 pray for me gentlemen 06:09 I try to avoid blind reads but if I feel I must I try to price-ID first. 06:11 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 06:11 [hdf-us] [nh4] Zumbah (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 43085 points, T:6790, killed by an ochre jelly 06:11 lol 06:11 an unfortunate series of events 06:11 alright so rust monster, throw all my shit away and duel him butt naked 06:11 thats the strat 06:12 You don't even have to do that, honestly. 06:12 I mean if it works then by all means. 06:12 But a cloak to cover metal body armor is enough, and I tend to prefer high boots to iron shoes precisely for this reason 06:13 I also just doff my helm real quick so it can't be targeted 06:13 got it 06:13 Gloves you don't have to worry about unless they're GoP 06:13 whats GOP 06:13 and even then you lose 1 point of AC at most 06:14 Oh, gauntlets of power 06:14 really the problem was my blessed 2 handed sword getting rusted but thats cause i attacked him with it right 06:14 Correct 06:14 casue i had a cloak and my body armor was untouched 06:14 iron boots were fucked tho 06:15 Which, eh, they're practically free in the Mines 06:19 alright how do i get that inventory screen on normal nethack on the hardfought server? 06:20 oh wow i cant even use numpad to move? 06:21 Yeah, that's also an option you have to set 06:22 OPTIONS=windowtype:curses 06:22 where do i put that? 06:23 In your rcfile 06:23 uh 06:23 https://www.hardfought.org/nethack/rcedit/rcedit-nethack/ 06:23 Here's the web editor 06:24 https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/U/Umbire/nethack/Umbire.nhrc Can also just copy mine if you like 06:25 jesus christ lmao 06:25 all i need is perma inventory 06:25 this have custom colors? 06:27 perma inventory is working and so is numpad. Whats special about yours? 06:27 would totally take yours if i knew what it was changing 06:28 It's mostly just additionall bells and whistles, autopickup, MSGSTOPs for important stuff 06:30 what does MSTSTOP mean i see all of them 06:31 also my hallways are a bunch of dots instead of hashtags is that the curse stuff? 06:32 Just a quick question about 3.6.6, I'm in the Qt interface, how do I get the Qt settings to save between startups? I can get the normal settings (O) to save fine, just not the Qt settings. 06:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2386, rt[0:59:44] 06:35 Zumbah: The inside of rooms should be dots. 06:36 -!- binMonkey0 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:36 Oh, hello realtime. 06:36 Anyway, MSGSTOP means that the screen stops updating when the message appears. 06:36 -!- binMonkey has joined #hardfought 06:37 Designed to catch your attention and stop you autopiloting through things what can kill you. 06:38 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6798 06:39 yeah the inside of rooms are dots but the hallways are this ill send a pic 06:39 https://imgur.com/a/P1TOeit 06:41 Yes, that's normal 06:42 zumbah, OPTIONS=symset:DECgraphics 06:42 maybe 06:42 any way to make them hashtags 06:42 oh let me try 06:43 in my batch file can i make it auto log in? 06:43 g'day all 06:44 thanks for the tip about wearing a cloak over the top of my armour. 06:44 Autologin isn't a thing. 06:44 No worries, also hi Moult. 06:44 Been a minute. 06:44 lata moult 06:44 oh wait unless youre just joining lol 06:44 Also yeah, curses should auto enable numpad stuff 06:44 Yeah they've just spoken up 06:45 ah that worked it made the hallways hashtags 06:45 cbus: probably need your font set to a DEC font for that DECgraphics to work. 06:45 open doors are still those dots though 06:46 That's normal. 06:46 Also means there isn't an actual door there. 06:47 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1052914689031544873/image.png 06:47 <@Umbyre (he/him)> Left is an opened door, right is just a doorway. 06:47 i know what a floor dot is but mine is that same rainbow like 100 dots on a tile 06:47 <@Umbyre (he/him)> Now it is closed. 06:47 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1052914873287323719/image.png 06:48 closed doors are + but open doors are this 06:48 https://imgur.com/a/ZnYIGSr 06:48 <@Umbyre (he/him)> That's a different font but still normal 06:49 <@Umbyre (he/him)> You're fine 06:49 how do i get it to be a -? 06:49 Use a different font? 06:50 whatre you using? 06:50 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1052915578513395722/putty_0DREdW6vZv.png 06:52 damn all the default windows CMD fonts have them as dots 06:54 * Umbire shrugs 06:55 -!- ZumbahMobile has joined #hardfought 06:57 arlight bedtime thanks for all the help guys 06:58 cheers. 06:58 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 06:58 I keep forgetting AC got inverted a while ago 06:58 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 230 points, T:459, killed by a wooden arrow 06:59 Zumbah: Sleep well 07:01 hm. Has anyone set up NH to work with a game controller? 07:01 nope afaik 07:02 I know that under Windows, ahk could probably do the job, but on Linux, I'm not sure what I'd use instead. 07:02 wouldnt be hard with a steam controller 07:02 havent gone to bed yet lol 07:02 https://linuxhint.com/gamepad_mapping_apps_linux/ maybe this helps 07:02 (never tried it) 07:02 Figured. You're meant to be off to bed. Aussie? 07:02 i can't imagine playing nethack with anything but a keyboard 07:03 idk if they have the same binding options on steam big picture with a normal xbox controller as a steam controller but i think they do 07:03 Yah. Gamepad does rather limit your options 07:03 you can have like 64 bindings on one button with steam big picture, custom pictures on a radial menu and everything 07:04 i played quite a bit on a phone with tiles but it's really not the same 07:04 This one's just a Logitech F310 07:04 also i play with the nethackwiki open in a browser muahahaha 07:05 I've tried to play nethack on a phone, but it didn't go well for me 07:05 I lost out on all of that when my two CRT screens got upgraded to a single LCD screen. Sigh. 07:05 open steam big picture and see what you can do with it. Got a steam controller a while ago and it was very easily bindable to anything i couldve possibly needed 07:05 Can't run nh from steam?? 07:05 add non steam game to library 07:05 Oh. That. 07:07 Mind you (as an aside) I'm trying very hard not to actually buy a couple of rogue-like games on my Steam wishlist... would only cost me $24 in my local currency ...but can't really justify it. 07:07 (ToME4) 07:07 tome on steam is a banger 07:08 so is the new dwarf fortress update if you consider it a roguelike 07:08 city builder roguelike? 07:08 some people conisder that heresy though 07:09 Isn't ToME4... free? 07:09 yeah but its like $5 on steam with DLCs idk if those are fre 07:09 free 07:09 i know steam version comes with something premium 07:09 Pinkbeast: steam is continuing on their quest to make money off of free open source games 07:09 DLCs for roguelikes? 07:09 because they're greedy assholes 07:09 DjanSeriy: surely the devs are getting money? 07:10 haha 07:10 hahaha 07:10 devs get like %40 or something 07:10 hahahahaha 07:10 zumbah, it is not a roguelike 07:10 Mmm. I'm thinking more from Viking667's point of view, get it for free and yarr^W skip the DLC 07:10 not yet 07:10 bhaak: how much money are you makin off nethack on steam? 07:10 they were gonna add adventure mode which would be roguelike but it is not in the current version 07:10 on steam description for TOME it says steam buyers get normal dono features 07:10 so idk what those are 07:10 well according to the modern definition of roguelike all you need is permadeath 07:11 not that i agree with that 07:11 https://te4.org/tome/dlc prices them in a special currency because fuck you that's why, but they're $7, $7, $4 and if I wanted to give money to ToME I'd do it like that and not let Valve rifle through my pockets 07:12 yeah thats the same price as steam, just if you bought it on steam theyd take a cut 07:12 but then id also get it in my steam library 07:12 with the 1782 achievements i can work for lol 07:12 And other special features like maybe they'll play the "accept the new T&Cs or lose all your games" card again 07:12 who? TE4 or Steam? 07:12 https://te4.org/donate seems to be the basic any-donation feature 07:12 oh. Steam 07:12 Viking667: Steam. 07:13 when tf was that 07:13 that shits scary 07:13 Can't you import games to your Steam library also? 07:13 I haven't seen that, mind you I don't usually mind Steam's agreements. 07:13 Most obviously when they required US users to opt out of class actions - ie, a substantive change not in the users' interests. 07:13 (Notably, EA and Microsoft - not known for their kindly natures - played that one as "accept the new T&Cs or don't buy any more games") 07:13 There's a lot of companies doing that over the past few years. 07:14 as long as they arent as invasive as others. Mind you VAC is already hella invasive and who knows what theyre doing with that info 07:14 anyone here play tome? any good? 07:14 tome is good 07:14 hella good 07:14 not as classic as nethack for me though, but a lot more idk fantasy 07:14 Viking667: However, most of them didn't (couldn't) threaten you with the "lose all your games" card. It's then I stopped using Steam; not a Yank, but in ten years' time it could be "$5 monthly subscription or lose all your games". 07:14 I'm not so impressed with ADOM (I think that's its name) 07:15 i can't find a single ascii screenshot of tome 07:15 Pinkbeast: i think if they did that they could 100% get sued 07:15 ToME4 is for you if you like massive all-the-things bloatfests 07:15 Zumbah: Well, not as a class action. :-) 07:15 in tome i plundered a dungeon and got a sword that could shoot magic missiles it was fun as hell 07:15 just try it out imo 07:15 see what you like 07:16 nothing wrong with playing a roguelike you might not enjoy as much as another for a few days 07:16 Viking667: i like the overworld concept in adom. 07:16 I've also got the far older ToME2 (when it was Tales of Middle Earth) 07:16 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:1798, rt[0:16:37] 07:16 Pinkbeast: even if you sign some sort of customer agreement, if the courts determine it as unfair or predatory it wont stand 07:17 if the courts even remain as they are in a few years 07:17 (more seriously a lot of the worse scenarios are totally bogus under EU law but a) not in the EU anymore, sigh and b) it's another thing to _enforce_ it) 07:17 So do I, sort of. But the thing that causes a buttwedgie is when I'm trying to shoot arrows at something - too many characters to have to hit in a row each flaming time you fire. 07:17 -!- binMonkey0 has joined #hardfought 07:18 it's effectively "t" "point" "T" (for Target) 07:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4637, rt[1:05:38] 07:18 that's not good ui. 07:18 Zumbah: Practically speaking for example in the EU these are sales, not some kind of renting as Valve would like to claim, and hence the user is entitled to resell Steam games etc. _Can_ the user do that? No. The courts deciding something doesn't actually help. 07:18 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2114, rt[0:19:24] 07:19 Viking667: adom has a friendly inventory system UI though 07:19 Viking667: but they then killed vi-keys which was a showstopper 07:19 True, and I'll give it credit for that. 07:19 (for the inventory thing) 07:19 Unsurprisingly, the user is not going to hire a lawyer at E100 an hour to sell E20 worth of old games. 07:19 you need a friendly inventory when your inventory keeps on burning up >:) 07:19 DjanSeriy: let me look at the stats. hmm, looks like a cool $0. 07:19 "burning up"? 07:20 bhaak: Drinks are on you 07:20 -!- binMonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:20 the individual user wont but someone will and idk about the UK law but in the US case law has a massive importance on the actual law 07:21 Moult[m]: this was what make me give up on adom. no vikeys is a dealbreaker, my keyyboard doesn't have a numpad 07:21 if the court decided on one case that steam was unfair in its rules and its total bogus than they would pretty much have to change their TOS 07:21 *keyboard 07:21 btw, hasn't anyone found ANY other collections of nethack aside from those commonly available? say, the original CVS tree? 07:21 but knowing the age of these people in charge who even knows anymore 07:21 Someone did in the EU - where consumer rights law is vastly stronger than in the EU - and again, the practical effect for users was zero. 07:21 Er, "than in the US" 07:21 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 3060 points, T:2356, killed by an elven watch captain 07:22 !goat nabru 07:22 Zumbah's goat runs up and rams nabru in the face! Baaaaaa! 07:22 someone did what 07:22 wtf does this do 07:22 lmao 07:22 DjanSeriy: demonstrate in court that Steam sales were sales and etc 07:22 and the upshot of this was fuck all 07:22 Quite. 07:22 and steam continues being bitches 07:23 well, bugger 07:23 nabru there used to be an adom vikeys binding, but ever since tbiskup kept on doing his "oh we're going to do adom 2.0 and it's gonna be better" it actually got worse for example keybindings work halfway, except for the targeting system then its back to numkeys 07:23 yeah steam just like doubled their overseas sales prices if the devs dont make a fuss about it 07:23 I think it's hopelessly naive to assume that if Valve decide tomorrow to start changing a monthly subscription users would have any option but to suck it up or lose all their games. 07:23 im not saying steam arent becoming a little faggoty but i dont think theyre gunna be like gimme $5 a month or lose all your games 07:23 Er, you might want to reconsider your language. 07:24 oh sorry 07:24 Zumbah: what he said 07:24 please behave 07:24 my bad g 07:24 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 07:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:24 I don't think that's a likely scenario now, but I still play games I bought 30, 35 years ago. 07:24 no homophobic (or other-phobic) slurs in the chan 07:24 coby that 07:25 grand 07:25 righto, just hit minetown, good little milestone to call it a night and feed the rabbit 07:25 Pinkbeast: i think i have morrowind or something on steam still 07:25 * DjanSeriy wonders when she last even had a local install of steam 07:26 personally i rather prefer GOG 07:26 i'm picking up on a monk character i left off half a year ago. it's really dull. he only has confuse monster spell. 07:26 i think if steam started charging monthly to access games then the massive companies with large legal teams who sell their games on there could be able to do something about it 07:26 in steams defense i feel steam has made a big contribution to gaming on linux 07:26 I mean, I have a bunch of stuff from when I still naively thought they were just going to get it right and try and be easier than piracy, but "fool me twice". 07:26 like you think activision would just let steam do that 07:27 Pinkbeast: i made that mistake with spotify for a while 07:27 of course steam might just be like what if we give you a dollar a month 07:27 don't feel too bad 07:28 +DjanSeriy: wym? Spotifys been $10 a mont for as long as i can remember 07:28 I think you are perhaps focussing too much on the exact detail of a hypothetical scenario rather than the general point; Valve are willing to force through a substantive T&Cs change, detrimental to its users, using the stick of "or lose all your games". 07:28 oh wow. Just released a water demon, she's offered me one of ... anything. What can I best put in? 07:28 their kickback to the artists is abysmal is that what you mean 07:28 Zumbah: i meant the bit about being easier than piracy and getting it right 07:28 Viking667: blessed +2 gray dragon scale mail ? 07:28 oh yeah it definitely is 07:28 but also like the fact that they randomly delete music that you have saved in playlists 07:28 would I seriously get that?? 07:28 Viking667, what role are you? 07:28 that was the thing that pissed me off the most 07:28 uhm... let me go look again 07:28 Spotify is easier/more convenient than piracy IMHO, at least for me. But yeah, sometimes their practices are crappy 07:28 if i curate my own collection locally then uh 07:29 i actually have control 07:29 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Wish#Common_wishes check this out viking theres the common wishes tab 07:29 with spotify i didn't 07:29 been waiting for a wish 07:29 Well, you might get a blessed +0 GDSM. Also, er my list of what to wish for is a decade out of date and IDK if you're playing a variant that nerfs wishes. 07:29 ^^ 07:29 nabru: yeah music piracy is hard 07:29 for me spotify just easily lets me access nearly every song in existence when im about to drive to work 07:29 i used to have good private trackers for that but 07:29 darn. Can't look that up at the moment. 07:29 re. Spotify being stingy with artists, I know and I disagree with their practices 07:30 nabru: yes well piracy is also giving nothing to the artists so i mean 07:30 but the main thing i will repeat that just annoyed me in the end was losing music because spotify decided not to carry a given song anymoer 07:30 DjanSeriy: Although Courtney Love did point out more than once the difference between pirates and the recording industry is she never found out she owed the pirates money 07:30 better than paying apple for music imo 07:30 Pinkbeast: lmfao 07:30 spotify has 100x the amount of content 07:31 I tried Apple Music a while ago, it was nice but I'm not in the Apple ecosystem 07:31 Piracy is almost imperative for preservation in either case, to avoid just that 07:31 that apple music UI is for people who need glasses 07:31 4 albums a page 07:31 The bands I like generally sell CDs at gigs. Remember gigs? 07:31 Pinkbeast: i was at a gig recently! 07:32 i even bought a vinyl from the band 07:32 wish i did pinkbeast lol 07:32 (i don't have a working vinyl player right now but that's not the point <_<) 07:32 vinyls still cool af if you cant play it 07:32 I'm human neutral ranger with cloak of displacement, bows, arrows and dagger. Not a lot else yet. 07:32 How does that affect my requests? 07:32 although i dont think decent onces are expensive anymore 07:32 I admit I have a Zombina EP or two but it is getting to the point where I look at a band selling records and think, hang on, none of you were _born_ when records were a thing. 07:33 lol. I was. 07:33 Zumbah: I found a vinyl of jimi hendrix - voodoo chile on the street a month or two back 07:33 oh my gord 07:33 Viking667: Well, don't wish for a cloak. I'd go GDSM. Silver DSM maybe. 07:33 among a few other things left in a box outside as a gift for passers by 07:33 but that was the coolest one i took i think 07:33 I was born '67, so I know what records are. 07:33 if i ever buy vinyl jimi hendrix purple haze is gunna be the first 07:33 Admittedly I quite appreciate The Men Who Will Not Be Blamed For Nothing doing a song or two on wax cylinder. 07:33 as my friend S put it, im learning the street collectors way! 07:34 sometimes you find random cool shit that people just... leave out 07:34 free gifts 07:34 like at garage sales? 07:34 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:4637 07:34 i mean in a box on the side of the road 07:34 Viking667: So do I, but IDK these bands do 07:34 unattended 07:34 wtf is that death actualquak 07:34 and once i found a nic elitle stain glass piece next to a glass disposal container 07:34 Zumbah: nope, not a death 07:34 he got Excalibur 07:34 hung it up at home 07:34 +DjanSeriy thats insane 07:35 oh lol 07:35 its a thing here 07:35 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:5317, rt[1:22:30] 07:35 thought some watery tart threw excalibur at him 07:35 and killed his ass 07:35 *her 07:35 maybe its german thing maybe just Hamburg; IDK 07:35 never seen anything like that in the US 07:35 we have garage sales over here 07:36 which a lot of the time if they have stuff like that are severely underpriced 07:36 I wish we had garage sales here in Brazil, instead we have thrift stores with vastly overpriced items 07:36 misgendering valkyries smh 07:36 lmao 07:37 Zumbah: There's Monty Python jokes in the livelog associated with obtaining excalibur via dipping. 07:37 havent seen monty python in almost a decade 07:37 gotta rewatch 07:37 keep in mind im 23 07:37 only time i watched it was on like the OG ipod with a screen 07:38 not the OG OG but it was like a shuffle with a screen 07:38 DjanSeriy: I find (mostly in DCSS circles where gods are canonically ungendered and there's intentionally no mention of character gender) that, sure, it's harmless if someone thinks all gods, characters and enemies are men but there is usually an implication regarding what they think all players are. 07:38 I mean there's people younger than you in here. 07:38 Probably not on right this minute, but in general yeah. 07:38 Since (as you know) Stoat Soup is 2/3 women this is dear to our heart. 07:38 Only just turned 30 this month. 07:39 Pinkbeast: mhm 07:39 dont tell me that i dont wanna be old yet 07:39 I'm 32 FWIW, you will find people of all ages here 07:39 last like 5 years went by in a blink 07:39 2-3 of that is covid though 07:39 That's the plague 07:39 shit made time pass in a blink 07:39 we have nethack players who are in their sixties i think 07:39 in this IRC 07:40 and then there's one old canadian dude as old as time 07:40 this is a gem lol 07:40 in this IRC 07:40 Zumbah: remember that IRC existed before you were born 07:40 yeah ik i can tell 07:40 Eh, so did my keyboard 07:40 Pinkbeast: :D 07:40 thats whats so charming about it 07:41 Hello, very early shield of reflection. 07:41 Non-cursed, even. 07:41 IDK that it's charming, just very noisy and... oh, IRC, not my keyboard? Never mind. 07:41 lmao 07:41 time for another run fuck bedtime 07:42 Huh. Can't seem to make up my mind between GDSM and SDSM 07:42 Dunno whether I want magic protection more or reflection more. 07:42 Zumbah: that's the spirit! 07:42 !whereis Viking667 07:42 Umbire: Viking667 is not playing. 07:42 oh shit 07:42 Local game? 07:42 got a cloak of displacement first floor 07:42 that good? 07:43 seems good 07:43 yes, in a way. 07:43 It's been useful to me. 07:43 does it displace monsters that hit you? 07:43 or does it displace you lol 07:43 no, it makes monsters think you're in a different place. Sometimes. 07:43 *raises eyebrows* 07:43 oh that doesnt work 07:43 how do you do that in IRC lol 07:44 ^.- 07:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1927, rt[0:23:41] 07:44 what the fuck is that 07:44 You want /me 07:44 A spock-eyebrow-raise. 07:44 * Zumbah raises eyebrows 07:44 got it 07:44 Ahhh. You want THAT... sorry. 07:44 we learning boys 07:44 Anyway, displacement causes images of you to appear nearby. 07:45 lol. I forgot you were IRC n00b 07:45 Monsters may attack those instead of you, if putting on the cloak didn't indicate as much (it should have). 07:45 yeah it says they have trouble pinpointing location 07:45 And that cloak can be worn over armour. 07:45 didnt read that before i said stuff here tho lol 07:45 just said ooo shiny 07:46 The messages you get from items are pretty important. 07:46 before joining this i just wikid everything 07:47 would spend like 20 mins on there everytime i found something new lol 07:48 what floor did you get that water demon wish viking? 07:48 2 07:48 damn lmao 07:48 I know, right? 07:48 Very risky to do early on. 07:48 how often do yall just put gear on and just risk the curse? 07:48 Anyway, is this a local game? 07:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] doomcircle (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1367 points, T:3116, killed by a soldier ant 07:49 mine is not 07:49 you should be able to see mine 07:49 Uh, not unless I'm doing a thing 07:49 I meant Viking ftr 07:49 So. When I took off my cloak and my scale mail, hobbit started stabbing me. So I stabbed the little guy until he started running away, then put on DSM then put on cloak, then chased him down. 07:49 And yes, local game. 07:50 I'd have to log into a curses window to see yours. 07:50 any reason youre running local instead of on this? 07:50 Local games're perfectly fine. 07:50 this has like bone files so you can loot other players right 07:50 speed. Graphics. They're the two main ones. 07:50 It's just more fun to be able to watch. 07:50 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:50 Also yes, there's Hearse capabilities. 07:50 or is that just alt nethack 07:50 Yes, bones are a normal part of nethack installs. 07:50 Zumbah: Almost never, why would I risk curses if my pet is alive? 07:51 I'd better not die in this game. 07:51 Pinkbeast: i did look that up but i never commited it to memory lol 07:51 lemme wiki it again 07:51 I went for GDSM in the end. Not blessed though, but was greased. 07:51 Servers also make wins easier to verify, though it's usually not worth the trouble to "fake" a local ascension imho. 07:52 I mean why not blessed. 07:52 (dunno what the grease does) 07:52 (also as a side note it is possible to press Enter only when a thought is complete and not just every now and then instead of the spacebar) 07:52 I asked for blessed, and I didn't get blessed. 07:52 How did you check? 07:52 Is it cursed? 07:52 no. 07:52 You did, it's just not ID'd as such yet. 07:52 yeah, you sure it's not blessed then? 07:52 I put it on. It didn't weld onto me 07:52 How would I find out otherwise? 07:52 OK, so it's not cursed. How did you check it's not blessed? 07:53 Altar. 07:53 ID. 07:53 etc. 07:53 No altar here. 07:53 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:53 Only weapons do that. Other cursed equipment will be identified as such when you fail to take it off. 07:53 Viking667: Please tell us how you determined it is not blessed. 07:53 I'll do the ID thing if I get a scroll of identity 07:53 Except the autocursing helms. 07:53 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:53 You get the beatitude you ask for when you make a wish, unless you had bad luck. 07:53 Anyway, if you don't have a cloak on over the mail, grease will prevent monsters like rope golems and eels from grabbing you. 07:53 You wished blessed, so it's blessed. 07:53 Well, I put it on, and it shows no bless, no curse. 07:54 Because that does not show when you wear armor, no. 07:54 are there ropers in this? 07:54 so I'll have to find out its status in some other way. 07:54 ropers? 07:54 might not be the name 07:54 Only rope golems. 07:54 You know for a fact it's blessed though, I just said as much. 07:54 classic DND monster? 07:54 no yeah its a roper in DND 07:54 Viking667: Well, as Umbire says, if your Luck wasn't bad, it's blessed. 07:54 It's not formally ID'd as blessed to your character, but you can take for granted it's blessed. 07:55 Not the thing from The Tower of Druaga 07:55 stalactite with tentacles that obliterates you 07:55 (This is Luck the in-game mechanic, not luck as in did the dice favour you) 07:55 SlashTHEM has ropers. 07:55 one of my fav things about this game is it has a lot of monsters from DND that are kinda hard to run if you arent playing often 07:55 Zumbah: NetHack's assortment of D&Disms is hit-and-miss, eg the way most of the polearms are from the start of the alphabet because someone got bored of typing them in 07:56 i dont think liches have phylacteries either right? 07:56 They don't even have genitals anymore, why would they need... oh, right. No, they stay dead. 07:56 They do not. 07:56 It would be supremely annoying if they did. 07:57 There's a false rumor alluding to that, as it happens. 07:57 i think that would add a little to the game, not sure thoug havent even played past a few runs 07:57 -!- malor has joined #hardfought 07:57 The female lich, ahem, seduces the male lich. You see a little lich hatch! 07:57 Once you start meeting liches, you'll probably reconsider that. 07:57 like on the same floor some random gem would be the phylactery 07:57 lmao 07:57 "This lich corpse is too hard to chew! The spit-covered lich rises from the dead!" 07:57 ok so if i drop an item, my pet wont walk over it if its cursed? 07:58 or if it does i get a message? 07:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5458, rt[1:23:56] 07:58 Latter. 07:58 Unless there's petfood on the same space or you displace it or drag it over with a leash or probably about a dozen other gotchas which I used to know. 07:58 if these dumb noob questions are annoying i can just find it on the wiki btw just lmk 07:59 A pet moving of its own accord only walks over a cursed item "reluctantly" unless there's a desired food on it. 07:59 And it never picks up the cursed item. 07:59 Zumbah: You're fine, dw. 07:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:00 so thats kinda what you do to find out? 08:00 Mhm 08:00 drop an item in a hall and then see what happens? 08:00 That's one of several ways, yes 08:00 aha i see 08:00 so since my pet had no issue walking over it its good to equip 08:01 these are the tips i need boys thanks 08:02 Sure sure. 08:02 ive decided im going to beat this roguelike 08:02 free hint, not everyone in this channel is "boys" 08:02 i call girls boys too dont worry about it 08:02 everyones a boys 08:02 Yeah, maybe put that in the bin with "faggotry" 08:03 dont you dare put me in that bin i have a rainbow backpack 08:03 and a heart tattoo on my finger 08:03 * Viking667 disapparates 08:03 -!- Viking667 has quit [Quit: Aieeeeeeeeeeeee......*BANG*] 08:03 just use some bad language 08:04 No one's putting any people in any bins, we're just letting you know. 08:04 Ain't no bins in this game anyway. 08:04 large boxes 08:04 morning 08:04 'lo 08:04 yeah i feel bad for saying that i thought this was like 4chan or some shit since its so backwater 08:04 aosdict: Those are too oversized to be bins! 08:05 hello 08:05 Hello Zumbah, Welcome to #hardfought 08:05 thank you bot? 08:05 Zumbah: Much less backwater, much more old school. 08:05 Though not like, entirely so. 08:05 would they be any better things to say if people were accepting of them? 08:05 Only discovered this in... what, 2019? 08:05 of gay people? 08:06 Accepting of the words, he means. 08:06 -!- version is now known as stenno 08:06 But yeah, point is not everything about IRC culture is outdated. :B 08:06 Just (usually) the tech. 08:06 nah i dont have a problem with certain words being forbidden especially in a community 08:06 For given values of "outdated", anyway. 08:06 especially when its stuff like that 08:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pony, on T:6077, rt[1:54:19] 08:07 never really associated that word with being gay though 08:07 but i know thats what it means 08:07 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation 08:07 lmao my style of typing irritates you doesnt it 08:08 Probably not for very much longer,. 08:08 Another 'old net user' sorta habit 08:08 i think i have the market cornered on bad typing 08:08 (aha, the inevitable typo strikes) 08:08 ",." annoys me 08:08 :P 08:08 ,. 08:08 ., 08:08 whenever you ctiricize gramar or spelling, you're going to make a mistake 08:08 a great brainfuck program 08:08 *criticize 08:08 *grammar 08:08 gosh! 08:08 *spelling 08:08 citrusize 08:08 I like to type as it comes to me, like real conversations 08:08 aosdict: It was kind of a given I'd fat-finger that. 08:08 more betterly 08:08 i wouldve made that 2 comments if pinkbeast didnt ride my ass about it lol 08:09 no flame though 08:09 SEE IM DOING IT NOW 08:09 OK, goodbye. 08:09 Umbire: I would like a spell that turns food into oranges please 08:09 :( 08:09 a spell that turns boulders into oranges 08:09 giant oranges 08:10 g - a spellbook of stone to fruit 08:10 stone to citrus 08:10 i would like 1 giant orange please 08:10 "You squeeze the giant orange. w - 43 potions of fruit juice" 08:10 What was I gonna... 08:10 Oh right, I wish you could make stuff outta bone in Evil. 08:10 nabru: 43 smoky potions :-) 08:10 my next starbucks order 08:10 :D 08:12 anyway to disable the letter keys to move and default k for kick and stuff like that 08:12 i use numpad to move im not a mongoloid 08:13 my eyebrows continue to raise 08:13 <@nabru> Zumbah, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Options#number_pad 08:13 Well, you can stone to flesh and then polypile them I guess. 08:13 I mean there's plenty of people who swear by vikeys 08:13 And not without reason 08:14 Diff'rent (key)strokes 08:14 I don't like vikeys. 08:14 that's just me though. 08:14 I like being able to use k to kick and l to loot. 08:14 you get used to vikeys evnetually 08:14 *eventually 08:14 Ye 08:14 I don't even use vikeys in vi, hehe 08:15 Andrio: me too im not truna press 3 keys to do things lol 08:15 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?2912 08:15 +rld: thanks 08:15 That's just the Discord bridge. 08:15 -!- crunchbubba has joined #hardfought 08:16 Also I think just typing someone's name is enough to notify them or what-have-you 08:16 (purely for information's sake, type as you like otherwise) 08:16 now crunchbubbas a name i can get behind 08:16 i dont need to colon? 08:16 You don't need to, no 08:17 hell yeah 08:17 you don't need to. Most IRC clients add the colon when you press TAB to autocomplete a name 08:17 nabru not mine i guess 08:17 just tried 08:17 ive got mirc too 08:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) became literate by engraving "test", on T:3176, rt[1:16:39] 08:19 Oh wow, converted an altar without something jumping me immediately. 08:19 Was gonna lob boulders and everything 08:21 spent 30 seconds typing kick on this chest cause im too lazy too lookup the keybind for nothing to be in it lol 08:21 to* 08:22 At least it didn't blow up. 08:22 Yeah, kicking chests may also break the contents. 08:23 You should be able to find something sharp to force the lock with, at least. 08:23 better than getting nothing right? 08:23 oh i can force with my weapon huh 08:23 Well not your good ones ideally. 08:23 Spare dagger'll do. 08:23 If you don't mind risking the weapon, yeah. 08:24 Zumbah, I would have been Crunch, but that name is long taken, and reportedly still being used aka not abandoned, so I had to get creative 08:24 crunchbubba is much better 08:24 take it from a zumbah 08:25 its stylish 08:26 feel like i need a quiter keyboard to play this game lmao 08:27 click click click... click click click click 08:27 I notice that I hit the keys harder when fighting beefy monsters 08:27 I do that too 08:27 that's gotta help. Right? 08:27 much like you push the buttons harder when the remote is running out of batteries 08:28 https://imgur.com/a/8lQ8XZ1 08:28 am i missing things here or is this floor complete 08:29 That's all they wrote, on to the next floor 08:30 aye aye pabbin 08:30 It's "complete" insofar as it's fully mapped, maybe minus a vault 08:30 But you can always come back to earlier floors, so. 08:30 (Kinda have to after a point, but that's another story) 08:30 I can't rule out a secret door along the east side. 08:30 ill check just for you 08:31 -!- Bleeko has joined #hardfought 08:31 yup theres a shop on this floor 08:32 well, it wasn't fully mapped then.~ 08:32 You usually get messages indicating if specific rooms are on a floor. 08:33 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 08:33 https://imgur.com/a/GhP0WW0 08:33 found another room but no shop so its somewhere 08:33 There could be another secret door on that room. 08:34 its either northwest or southeast corner 08:34 place bets 08:34 i'm betting southeast 08:35 checked each hall 25 times and each wall of the new room 50 times 08:35 nothing 08:35 F 08:35 That's more like it 08:35 Though I expected more dangerous than an amorous demon 08:36 fuck a shop ive got 7 zorkmids 08:36 [hdf-us] [dyn] dafl (post163) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 39 points, T:119, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (orcs), on T:1 08:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zumbah (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 741 points, T:2511, killed by a dwarf 08:37 op 08:37 i ded 08:37 50 small men attacked me 08:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:22906 08:38 Heckin' dwarves. 08:38 <@Umbyre (he/him)> average EvilHack mines 08:38 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1052942812930379807/image.png 08:38 <@Umbyre (he/him)> lucky I have flight 08:39 so was that an alternate entrance to the gnome mines or whatever? it didnt take me to the same level as the other down ramp] 08:39 Yes, that leads to the Gnomish Mines 08:39 got it 08:39 <@Umbyre (he/him)> Great joke video game 08:39 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1052943016593203302/image.png 08:39 any reason to go there? 08:39 The dwarves and gnome lords are no joke for an early character. 08:40 There is potentially lots of useful treasure there though 08:40 Early armor if you're combat adept, tools and other treasure 08:40 ooo ok 08:40 Usually a town with shops 08:40 actual bedtime now though lata gentlepeople 08:40 Later 08:40 See ya 08:40 -!- Zumbah has left #hardfought 08:43 -!- marblesurf has joined #hardfought 08:43 -!- marblesurf has quit [Changing host] 08:43 -!- marblesurf has joined #hardfought 08:45 -!- ZumbahMobile has left #hardfought 08:54 damn, now even the game can tell me I'm too fat. just pile on 08:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:24325 08:56 -!- marblesurf has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:56 -!- marblesurf has joined #hardfought 09:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una) polymorphed her first item, on T:4296, rt[1:49:35] 09:05 yay I turned a slime mold into a food ration 09:05 at least that's the poly potion out of the way 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 09:07 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:11 I like to use pancakes for that 09:11 I like to think of it as a syrup 09:11 Mrs Polyworths Polysyrup 09:14 "The potion forms a coating on your pancake!" --- A poisoned pancake :-) 09:16 "I just add a potion of levitation to the batter for the lightest, fluffiest pancakes you've ever had!" 09:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] UmberConductor (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:11678, rt[2:03:38] 09:25 is there a shop code expert? 09:26 like is anyone particularly well versed in knowing how ALL the shop code works and interacts? 09:26 the way I see it nobody knows how it works beyond certain facets cause fuck sitting down and figuring it all out when you don't really ever need to 09:27 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:9591, rt[3:14:39] 09:27 pretty sure if someone knew how it all worked and thought critically about it for a few minutes a lot of bugs would be very obviously present 09:31 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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I don't think they do that in d&d 10:23 They do 10:23 [hdf-eu] [fh] Ranfee (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 47648 points, T:19103, killed by an owlbear 10:23 early as the first editions 10:23 (another reason I do wiki stuff) 10:24 -!- crunchbubba has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:25 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:38 -!- Semilg_ has joined #hardfought 10:38 -!- Semilg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 10:49 [hdf-eu] [fh] Ranhiu (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:501 10:53 [hdf-eu] [fh] Ranhiu (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:503 11:04 -!- Furey has joined #hardfought 11:09 [hdf-eu] [fh] Ranhiu (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 23289 points, T:2957, killed by a gnome queen 11:10 [hdf-us] [spl] N47H4k3R (Con Vam Mal Cha), 340 points, T:1152, sent to the grave by a large kobold, while fainted from lack of food 11:14 [hdf-us] [spl] N47H4k3R (Con Vam Mal Cha), 121 points, T:895, offed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1493 points, T:2154, killed by a gold golem 11:17 [hdf-us] [spl] N47H4k3R (Con Vam Mal Cha), 106 points, T:579, struck down by a serval, while fainted from lack of food 11:17 -!- Furey has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 270 points, T:647, killed by a red mold 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 155 points, T:170, killed by a water demon 11:32 -!- malor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:18767 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) found Stormbringer on the floor, on T:18770 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1972 12:00 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] doomcircle (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 325 points, T:486, killed by a dwarf 12:15 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) destroyed Vecna, on T:85347 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) genocided alhoons, on T:85377 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2102, rt[0:09:49] 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) genocided arch-liches, on T:85378 12:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) genocided antimatter vortices, on T:85379 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:16872 12:30 [hdf-us] [spl] pegasuswhisper (Dra Elf Nbn Cha), 548 points, T:2197, done in by a dwarf 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) murdered her faithful shimmering dragon, on T:85791 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Mitra, on T:14030, rt[3:09:26] 12:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] guest99987 (Sam Hlf Mal Law) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:554 12:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law), 17880 points, T:14150, killed by a leocrotta 12:37 huh, the latest "news" on the wiki homepage is about Junethack starting 12:38 i was looking to see if someone had added the EvilHack release on there. how does that get updated? anyone can edit it? 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1130 points, T:2551, killed by a rothe, while praying 12:40 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 12:41 [hdf-us] [evil] pegasuswhisper (Wiz Trt Fem Neu), 14 points, T:346, killed by a boiling potion 12:42 [hdf-us] [spl] pegasuswhisper (Pir Mer Fem Neu) murdered Polly, her faithful parrot, on T:9 12:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Dro Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 Seven League Boots", on T:53029 12:44 [hdf-us] [spl] pegasuswhisper (Pir Mer Fem Neu), 91 points, T:174, killed by an acidic corpse 12:48 qt: correct, that can be done 12:48 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4590, rt[0:22:51] 12:48 I'll nudge K2 and co. to handle it, sure there's more than Evol 0.8.1 and tnnt that I've missed 12:48 that's been announced* 12:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 887 points, T:2274, killed by a giant mosquito 12:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:10196 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 9842 points, T:5215, killed by a goblin-captain called Zogz of Akhuza 13:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] doomcircle (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2468 13:08 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 13:10 skullhack 13:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1545 points, T:2595, killed by a blue jelly 13:10 technically 13:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] doomcircle (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3560 points, T:3041, killed by an ape 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Mon Hum Fem Law), 2093 points, T:3183, killed by a plains centaur 13:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] pegasuswhisper (Wiz Hlf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2730 13:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:3512, rt[0:25:20] 13:21 -!- marblesurf has quit [Quit: cya] 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 15749 points, T:13080, killed by a white unicorn 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed DragonSidedD's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:2427 13:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] maneatingcow (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 935515 points, T:81732, poisoned by Juiblex 13:33 F 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2779 13:36 -!- kewldewd has joined #hardfought 13:42 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hothraxxa/dynahack/dumplog/2022-12-15%2014_01_17%2C%20hothraxxa-Pri-Hum-Mal-Cha%2C%20ascended.txt 14:02 grats hothraxxa 14:02 thanks 14:02 gg 14:03 ty 14:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law), 510 points, T:1696, killed by a dart 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (giant mimics), on T:411 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 307 points, T:507, killed by a gnome 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2402 14:14 nice hothraxxa 14:14 tnx. was a bit weird 14:15 the magic lamp with no oil threw me for a bit of a loop 14:16 it also crashed three times on me but recovered itself nicely so i guess we have to thank fiq for that 14:16 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 14:17 ugh 14:17 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:18 I think that happens if magic lamp gets cancelled or something, there's a troll magic lamp in dnh that works like that 14:18 -!- Furey has joined #hardfought 14:19 that makes sense but i don't know how it got cancelled 14:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:8, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:19 it explains why i rubbed it over 200 times with no genie, although many many puffs of smoke 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3237 14:20 all i wanted was a stethoscope, it being dynhack 14:20 polypiled one later 14:20 [hdf-us] [dyn] Boure (Bourne) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 193 points, T:330, killed by a small mimic 14:21 [hdf-us] [nh343] allanb (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 103 points, T:470, killed by a jackal 14:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 330 points, T:1208, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 14:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HarmathZsolt (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 290 points, T:2024, killed by a land mine 14:34 [hdf-eu] [fh] Ranwewe (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 31510 points, T:3912, killed by an invisible ranger called "Ranhiu"'s wand 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 11018 points, T:5025, killed by a warhorse 14:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:37 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Elf Nbn Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby shimmering dragon 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (illithids), on T:1, rt[0:00:03] 14:38 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law), 834 points, T:1100, killed by a gnome lord 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1905 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) was bestowed with Sunsword by Lugh, on T:2170 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] peterg (Mon Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3732 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Enchanter (level 14), on T:22926 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killed by an owlbear 15:18 -!- binMonkey has joined #hardfought 15:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Majin (Val Hum Fem Law), 392 points, T:1606, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant bat 15:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1245, rt[0:06:30] 15:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Majin (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:20, killed by a newt 15:20 -!- binMonkey0 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:21 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 15:21 -!- Semilg_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:21 [hdf-us] [ndnh] pegasuswhisper (Wiz Hlf Fem Cha), 281 points, T:1174, killed by a bat 15:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 3895 points, T:3883, poisoned by an orcish arrow 15:28 [hdf-us] [slshm] pegasuswhisper (Fla Elf Fem Neu), 152 points, T:233, killed by a dwarf 15:29 -!- spontiff has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:34 -!- spontiff has joined #hardfought 15:34 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was given Hammerfeet, on T:525 15:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2130 15:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3080, rt[0:22:48] 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 881 points, T:1633, killed by a bugbear 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering an Uruk-hai corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:3159, rt[0:24:09] 15:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) murdered Hecubus, his faithful lesser homunculus, on T:52, rt[0:00:22] 15:37 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Fem Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 482 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:50095 15:40 [hdf-us] [spl] N47H4k3R (Con Vam Mal Cha) performed his first annihilation (liches), on T:103 15:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 400 points, T:1069, killed by a hobbit zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 15:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Majin (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3894 15:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:43 [hdf-us] [spl] N47H4k3R (Con Vam Mal Cha), 247 points, T:688, cut down by a pig, while fainted from lack of food 15:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] pegasuswhisper (Wiz Hlf Fem Cha), 228 points, T:1000, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 15:45 [hdf-us] [spl] N47H4k3R (Con Vam Mal Cha) murdered Nicodemus, his faithful sewer rat, on T:314 15:45 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1697 15:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:966, rt[0:05:30] 15:48 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 1252 points, T:1962, killed by a rothe 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 48 points, T:118, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:52 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Nbn Law), 125 points, T:218, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:53 [hdf-us] [spl] N47H4k3R (Con Vam Mal Cha), 966 points, T:1852, done in by a hallucinogen-distorted wererat 15:54 [hdf-us] [spl] N47H4k3R (Con Vam Mal Cha), 103 points, T:183, overpowered by a jackal 15:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3768, rt[1:18:10] 15:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3453 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:1845, rt[0:08:45] 15:59 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1929, rt[0:10:40] 15:59 [hdf-us] [spl] N47H4k3R (Con Vam Mal Cha) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:1287 16:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Fem Neu) bribed Asmodeus with 112 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:51031 16:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 1442 points, T:1984, killed by a bugbear 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6047, rt[0:48:46] 16:06 [hdf-us] [spl] N47H4k3R (Con Vam Mal Cha), 968 points, T:2967, sent to the grave by a dwarf 16:08 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a cloak of protection entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:7008, rt[0:55:43] 16:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] pegasuswhisper (Wiz Hlf Fem Cha), 1335 points, T:2870, killed by a marid 16:09 [hdf-us] [spl] N47H4k3R (Con Vam Mal Cha), 317 points, T:756, dispatched by a little dog 16:10 [hdf-eu] [fh] Raneaw (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 6461 points, T:82, escaped 16:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Gollum, on T:7179, rt[0:57:48] 16:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3870, rt[0:29:52] 16:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] HarmathZsolt (Cav Dwa Fem Law) was bestowed with Snickersnee by Anu, on T:4662 16:13 [hdf-us] [spl] N47H4k3R (Ran Dro Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:863 16:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Fem Neu) wished for "holy ring of teleport control", got "an opal ring", on T:51797 16:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 23 points, T:140, killed by a water moccasin 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) chose a runed broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:8172, rt[1:04:54] 16:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] maneatingcow (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3991 16:17 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 16:18 [hdf-us] [fh] kl (post163) (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 4694 points, T:54, killed by a Ms. Manlobbi, the shopkeeper's wand 16:19 [hdf-us] [fh] fldsa (post163) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 11547 points, T:159, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:18, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:19 [hdf-us] [spl] N47H4k3R (Ran Dro Mal Cha) destroyed N47H4k3R's ghost, the former Inmate, on T:2030 16:21 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 154 points, T:305, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:24 [hdf-us] [spl] N47H4k3R (Ran Dro Mal Cha), 1216 points, T:2558, brought low by an orc-captain 16:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:51878 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 555 points, T:1279, killed by a gnome 16:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:58, killed by a fox 16:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] pegasuswhisper (Sam Hlf Fem Law), 294 points, T:888, killed by a cryonic corpse 16:25 -!- spontiff has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 29343 points, T:9405, killed by a leocrotta 16:26 <@Loggers> Holy shit what 16:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 111 points, T:280, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:26 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:68, killed by a newt, while reading a book 16:27 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:64, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class o), on T:1 16:27 [hdf-us] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Werebane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:40210 16:27 [hdf-eu] [fh] Ranawww (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 23500 points, T:2764, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt 16:27 <@nabru> !lastgame loggers 16:27 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Loggers/evilhack/dumplog/1671135148.evil.html 16:31 <@Loggers> Alright apparently from 3.6.1 onwards speed 18 monsters have a 50% chance of getting two attacks instead of one on any given turn 16:31 Even in vanilla fighting a leocrotta as a -1 AC squishy role rarely ends well 16:31 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 804 points, T:1331, killed by a hobgoblin 16:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Ran Bat Fem Cha), 3284 points, T:1895, killed by a gnomish wizard zombie 16:32 <@Loggers> Yeah I knew I could tank one more turn of damage but didn’t know about that 50% chance for a bonus turn 16:32 <@Loggers> Unfortunate 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 7 points, T:38, killed by a system shock 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Pri Orc Mal Cha), 461 points, T:517, killed by a goblin 16:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was given the Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala, on T:7307 16:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 4011 points, T:5529, killed by a tiger, while fainted from lack of food 16:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 651 points, T:869, killed by a mountain dwarf 16:42 [hdf-us] [spl] pegasuswhisper (Dra Hum Fem Cha), 330 points, T:2641, died of starvation, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law), 98 points, T:609, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:44 @Loggers you had the first evilhack Gollum kill! 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law), 131 points, T:847, killed by a fox 16:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:8353 16:50 <@Loggers> Haha nice 16:51 <@Loggers> Noticed I had a cursed scroll of tele and just decided to go for it 16:55 [hdf-us] [ndnh] KaiHerd (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Thrashing Tulip Poplar, on T:21173 16:57 [hdf-us] [gnoll] zor (Pri Gnl Fem Neu), 20000 points, T:2068, killed by a bugbear, while fainted from lack of food 16:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a blue dragon, on T:14177 16:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 83 points, T:203, killed by a grid bug 16:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:2373 17:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:7558, rt[2:08:37] 17:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3027 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4505 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2751 17:04 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 17:04 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Vam Nbn Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a sonic beam 17:04 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Nob Dwa Mal Law), 1237 points, T:1609, killed by a gnome mummy, while fainted from lack of food 17:06 [hdf-us] [evil] Loggers (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:838, rt[0:07:34] 17:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 25018 points, T:8341, suffocated by a gelatinous cube 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] spleen (Bar Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:15106 17:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 566 points, T:559, killed by a small mimic 17:12 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 17:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Gia Fem Una), 10194 points, T:6218, poisoned by a dagger 17:17 oh that is an anticlimax 17:17 instadeath by poison 17:17 after all that mine zoo excitement 17:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:3047, rt[0:17:32] 17:22 [hdf-eu] [fh] Ranppp (OmNyomNyom) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 24582 points, T:3476, killed by a gnomish wizard's force bolt 17:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Leggman (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1433 points, T:1871, killed by a rothe 17:23 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5330 points, T:4223, killed by a black pudding 17:23 -!- attie has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 gray dragon scale mail", got "a gray dragon scale mail", on T:6528 17:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 181 points, T:711, killed by a coyote 17:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law) was bestowed with Sunsword by Lugh, on T:4666 17:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2645, rt[0:17:50] 17:31 I think I did something wrong. I tried to edit the "news" thing to add TNNT and EvilHack 0.8.1 but it's not showing those changes 17:31 will some wiki person please tell me the truth, what did I do 17:31 did I break the wiki 17:32 no it takes awhile for it to show up 17:32 oh okay 17:32 there's some trick to make it show immediately but i forget 17:33 i dont update the news often enough to remember 17:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 795 points, T:1473, killed by a giant bat 17:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:4924 17:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 298 points, T:638, killed by a dwarf 17:37 oh it showed up now 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 4710 points, T:1748, killed by a warg 17:37 nice 17:37 and I called it "The November Nethack Tournament 2021" 17:37 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Mus Hum Mal Neu), 560 points, T:586, killed by a gnome lord 17:37 classic 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed Lolth, on T:86836 17:38 [hdf-au] [nh370] Maria (Val Dwa Fem Law), 513 points, T:1378, killed by an elf zombie 17:38 \o/ 17:38 "1st November 2022 -- The November NetHack Tournament 2021 has begun" 17:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 236 points, T:1297, killed by a brown mold 17:38 [hdf-us] [ndnh] KaiHerd (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:22383 17:39 can't believe the TNNT staff delayed the tournament for so long just to cram in 500 achievements like "eat five hundred snakes" and "throw a rock at your own head" 17:39 so unprofessional, at this rate TNNT 2022 will begin in 2025 17:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law), 4394 points, T:5445, killed by a fire ant 17:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1302, rt[0:12:35] 17:41 heh 17:41 -!- Furey has joined #hardfought 17:42 those r good achievements 17:42 you should man the quanuary qt qtournament 17:43 i contributed the best one: faster than light: kill any y in melee without it exploding 17:43 and run the 2025 one in 2023 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:9162 17:44 good idea, that will cancel out the lateness of TNNT 17:45 still need puzzlehack 17:45 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Inf Hum Mal Una), 9899 points, T:7416, killed by a giant spider, while fainted from lack of food 17:45 chess puzzles but its nethacj 17:45 community sourced and ranked 17:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Inf Ith Fem Una), 4820 points, T:4076, killed by a Woodland-elf 17:47 is it chess puzzles but nethack in the sense that they are nethack puzzles (like "do XYZ to escape the soldier with a cockatrice corpse who has trapped you in a dead end"), or like sokoban but they're chess puzzles implemented within nethack 17:47 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:87424 17:51 former 17:51 that sounds like it could be pretty cool tbh 17:51 it's always fun when someone comes in with some crazy dangerous situation and everyone gives them advice 17:52 [hdf-us] [evil] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 521 points, T:1795, slipped while mounting a saddled horse called Daniel the talking horse 17:52 !setmintc 1000 17:52 K2: [hdf-au][hdf-us][hdf-eu] Min reported turncount for k2 set to 1000 17:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3257 17:54 3.7 lua stuff would probably lend itself to representing and loading puzzles (even things like "and also, you're currently turning to stone") without too much craziness. though victory conditions beyond "get to the stairs" might be difficult 17:55 though at a certain level of detail i guess you are just creating a new savefile format 17:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Mon Hlf Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1026 17:57 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:59 @e?Gollum 17:59 Gollum ~3~ gnoll (h) | Lvl: 4 | Diff: 6 | Spd: 8 | Res: poison | Confer: nothing | MR: 0 | Gen: gehennom dungeons | AC: 7 | Atk: 1d6 weapon physical, 1d4 bite physical | Align: -10 | genocidable, omnivore, infravis 18:00 ah, pinobot hasn't been updated for eh 0.8 yet 18:00 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Gollum, on T:616, rt[0:05:33] 18:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Mon Hlf Fem Neu), 4998 points, T:1508, killed by a triton 18:01 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 955 points, T:630, killed by a piranha 18:02 gnollum 18:02 Demo: didn't antigulp implement a chess sokoban at one point 18:03 I was remembering that too aosdict but I thought it was just something she talked about, not something she had done 18:03 I don't really get how it could actually work 18:03 i dont know anything about that 18:05 do you push around the chess pieces like boulders? how does it prevent an illegal move? are they only mate-in-1 type puzzles with a single move, or do the other pieces have to move themselves somehow? 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 5348 points, T:5747, killed by a jaguar 18:07 maybe you could have all the pieces be special monsters I guess that don't move on their own, and the ones you control each are tame and have a saddle, so you can ride the one you choose to move and control it directly. that could handle the other pieces moving on their own and how captures work, but not ensuring only legal are made 18:07 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3844 implies she implemented it 18:08 hmmm, I have to ask antigulp next time she is here how that actually worked in terms of controlling it 18:09 [hdf-au] [nh370] Maria (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2240 18:10 !tell Kes https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3844 how did the player actually move her pieces in this patch? push them like boulders? or some kind of special UI with getpos where you specify the piece and destination? 18:10 I'm on it, qt. 18:12 oh hmm, the way it is described it almost sounds like the player doesn't control any pieces at all 18:12 but just moves the hero in the normal way, and it's just that the monsters are chess pieces with chess piece moves that attempt to "capture" the hero? 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:12256 18:12 since she says they "take turns with the player... and attempt to 'take' them" 18:17 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Mus Hum Fem Neu), 2273 points, T:1153, killed by a gnome king 18:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kaya (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 340 points, T:1461, killed by a gecko 18:23 [hdf-us] [ndnh] KaiHerd (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:22963 18:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was bestowed with Magicbane by Anhur, on T:22096 18:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 6172 points, T:3765, killed by a vampire bat, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 18:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 1235 points, T:2655, killed by a brown mold 18:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3475, rt[1:02:49] 18:39 I still think ice-sliding-puzzle-koban would be dope 18:41 I wanna do that 18:41 just haven't worked on behavior for sliding boulders across ice 18:42 if you give me that part, I'll do it 18:46 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Gollum, on T:1490, rt[0:08:02] 18:50 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1965, rt[0:12:05] 18:53 !rng sleep nethack 18:53 nabru: sleep 18:53 nabru selected: sleep nethack 18:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1231 points, T:1812, killed by a gnome 18:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law), 4125 points, T:8518, killed by an owlbear 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:15762 19:05 -!- wbn_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:06 -!- wbn has joined #hardfought 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law), 98 points, T:817, poisoned by a rotted goblin corpse, while helpless 19:07 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:07 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19:29 /oPoly gone wrong 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1155 points, T:604, killed by a gnome 19:34 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 8740 points, T:14413, killed by an energy vortex 19:36 [hdf-au] [nh370] Maria (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6520 19:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 853 points, T:1106, killed by a dwarf 19:42 -!- crunchbubba has joined #hardfought 19:44 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 9360 points, T:5877, killed by an invisible stalker 19:45 [hdf-us] [dyn] hothraxxa (Mon Hum Mal Law), 2162 points, T:8248, killed by a jaguar 19:47 [hdf-us] [dyn] Burne (Bourne) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1615 points, T:2635, killed by a bolt of fire 19:48 [hdf-au] [nh370] Maria (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:7294 19:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Mon Hum Mal Law) destroyed Gutso's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:1552, rt[0:12:29] 19:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", got "a silver dragon scale mail", on T:1302 19:55 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 943 points, T:2321, killed by a giant bat 19:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) was bestowed with Frost Brand by Quetzalcoatl, on T:17844 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a floating eye, on T:31322 20:06 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 250 points, T:358, killed by a hobbit 20:06 [hdf-us] [evil] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 165 points, T:497, killed by the Goblin King 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1382 points, T:2327, killed by a white unicorn 20:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] ygpa (Kni Hum Mal Law), 23 points, T:205, killed by a gas cloud 20:10 -!- Semilg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a leather armor entrusted to her by Odin, on T:862, rt[0:10:24] 20:21 [hdf-us] [evil] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1470, rt[0:14:27] 20:23 -!- malor has joined #hardfought 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was bestowed with Magicbane by Anhur, on T:3574 20:28 [hdf-us] [evil] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law) murdered Daniel the talking horse, her faithful warhorse, on T:1908, rt[0:21:24] 20:28 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:89096 20:29 [hdf-us] [evil] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1409 points, T:1916, killed by a piranha, while praying 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) found the Eye of the Aethiopica on the floor, on T:24095 20:29 [hdf-us] [evil] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:126, killed by trying to drink molten lava 20:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Dro Mal Cha) killed the Good Neighbor, on T:56062 20:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:24119 20:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24123 20:32 -!- Bleeko has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:32 [hdf-us] [gnoll] malor (Arc Hum Fem Law), 1701749 points, T:54704, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/gnollhack/dumplog/1671045984.gnoll.txt 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was bestowed with Trollsbane by Anhur, on T:4804 20:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Shan Lai Ching, on T:9426, rt[2:27:41] 20:43 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 5179 points, T:2744, killed by a giant spider 20:44 [hdf-us] [evil] nekochan (Kni Hum Mal Law), 888 points, T:2108, killed by becoming a döner kebab 20:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6038 20:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law) killed Gollum, on T:10127, rt[2:38:05] 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:49724 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:49725 20:48 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) murdered her faithful white unicorn, on T:90085 20:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 2122 points, T:3106, killed by a gold golem 20:53 [hdf-au] [nh370] Maria (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:10120 20:54 [hdf-us] [evil] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 2899 points, T:1152, killed by a small mimic 21:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law), 634 points, T:1594, killed by a gnome lord 21:01 [hdf-au] [nh343] actualquak (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1480 points, T:1693, killed by a dwarf 21:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 372 points, T:1115, killed by a gnome 21:05 -!- binMonkey has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] OhNoNotAgain (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4255 21:07 -!- binMonkey has joined #hardfought 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed WizzyTheWeird's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:36070 21:11 [hdf-us] [ndnh] KaiHerd (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Ixoth, on T:25556 21:12 -!- Andrio has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] nekochan (Kni Hum Fem Law), 1083 points, T:2078, killed by the Goblin King 21:13 -!- Andrio has joined #hardfought 21:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] OhNoNotAgain (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:4580 21:17 [hdf-us] [ndnh] KaiHerd (Kni Hum Fem Law) was given their Quest, on T:25677 21:18 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Dwa Fem Law) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:11625, rt[2:59:07] 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 574 points, T:2474, killed by a giant ant 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh4] marko (msf567) (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8856 points, T:210, quit 21:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:8068 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4313 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:38493 21:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:5075 21:45 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Pri Ith Mal Cha), 3281 points, T:2963, quit 21:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 75230 points, T:39104, killed by a priestess of Mog, while paralyzed by a monster 21:50 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 21:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Excavator (level 14), on T:24796 21:56 [hdf-us] [dyn] Bourne (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 8946 points, T:12313, killed by a fire ant 21:58 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu), 1225 points, T:1465, killed by a baby owlbear 21:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:7844 22:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", got "a perforated amulet", on T:25031 22:01 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:1523, rt[0:09:09] 22:07 -!- Furey has quit [Quit: Client closed] 22:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:11208 22:12 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Sam Gia Mal Law), 5746 points, T:2748, quit 22:15 -!- Furey has joined #hardfought 22:17 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 22:17 [hdf-us] [evil] dbanethacker (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:1861, rt[0:18:31] 22:19 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:7169, rt[0:49:15] 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Kontroller's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:11884 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed MoonPig's ghost, the former Peregrinatrix, on T:22745 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) found Fire Brand on the floor, on T:22757 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 156 points, T:1109, killed by a large mimic 22:37 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:38 [hdf-us] [ndnh] KaiHerd (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Nimune, on T:27210 22:41 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had a mithril dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Tyr, on T:8468, rt[1:11:14] 22:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Magicbane by Hermes, on T:2456 22:44 -!- blankman has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:44 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5608 points, T:8577, zombified by a dwarf zombie 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12801 22:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Kontroller (Kni Hum Mal Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2786 22:45 -!- blankman has joined #hardfought 22:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Dro Mal Cha) killed Hmnyw-Pharaoh, on T:59240 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4941 22:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Dro Mal Cha) killed Mother Hydra, on T:59465 22:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Dro Mal Cha) killed Father Dagon, on T:59475 22:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased +3 silver dragon scale mail", got "a greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:6073 23:09 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Sam Gia Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:3590, rt[0:31:18] 23:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Ana Dro Mal Cha) destroyed Ghoul-queen Nitocris, on T:60236 23:11 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Sam Gia Mal Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:3949, rt[0:33:31] 23:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:9761 23:24 -!- marblesurf has quit [Quit: cya] 23:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) found the Orb of Detection on the floor, on T:27199 23:29 [hdf-us] [evil] willisllama (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:5603, rt[0:50:52] 23:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Minion of Huhetotl, on T:27228 23:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27229 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 994 points, T:1845, killed by a rock piercer 23:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Orcrist by Huan Ti, on T:1529 23:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] merget (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (disenchanters), on T:10222 23:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:25992 23:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] merget (Val Hum Fem Law) bestowed with Mjollnir by Tyr, on T:10297 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed SkydiveMike's ghost, the former Pilferer, on T:16638 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] eitbo (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) found Grimtooth on the floor, on T:16640 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Trollsbane by Huan Ti, on T:4319 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] DragonSidedD (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 6979 points, T:4423, killed by an Uruk-hai 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] icantfindaname (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:16494