00:00 <@riker> like it doesn't normally make melee attacks to adjacents when you hit with it? 00:00 <@riker> like one of those do? 00:00 <@malor> normally what? 00:00 <@malor> it does once your insight is high enough. 00:00 <@riker> you know how the living arms from the lurking ones have an aoe clawed hand attack when you hit them? 00:00 <@riker> oh it does? neato thanks 00:00 <@malor> I think the ibite arm isn't even as good as a lurking one arm though. That thing seemed really weak. 00:00 <@riker> aha it does 00:00 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1012209910467018782/unknown.png 00:00 <@riker> i missed htis 00:01 <@riker> ah, i see. chris put the normal living arm parts of the ibite arm in a differnet page - the insight page rather than the artifact extar 00:01 <@riker> entry 00:01 <@riker> makes sense 00:02 <@malor> The best thing for madman is to wish for Blade Singer. That weapon is good enough for the whole game. 00:02 <@riker> speed go brr 00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:5508 00:04 <@riker> anybody know if HMS is a viable lategame main weapon, on par with the other insight weapons? 00:05 @n?lurking one 00:05 lurking one (H) | Lvl: 45 | Diff: 52 | Spd: 10 | Res: shock poison petrification magic | Confers: shock | MR: 90 | Generates: special | AC: Nat 18/Dodge 0/Prot 0 | Attacks: 1d8 weapon physical, 1d8 offhanded-weapon physical, 1d8 offoffhanded-weapon physical, 1d8 offoffhanded-weapon physical, 4d8 tentacle physical, 4d8 gaze shock | Alignment: 0 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, flies, infravisible, seeinvis 00:05 <@riker> lurking ones are easy as long as like you managed to get shock res before them 00:05 <@malor> I think demo used it, so it must be at least ok, since his standard is really high. 00:06 <@riker> i hit them w/o shock res somehow once and lemme tell you that sucked ass. their gaze has no range except los and they can see you from years away 00:06 <@malor> I always use blade singer or whatever is in the "madperson prize box" if that's decent. 00:06 <@riker> as a main hand weapon w/o drooling? 00:06 <@riker> well i guess demo would drool anything but still 00:06 <@riker> BSS is obscene im just wondering if HMS makes the cut for a balanced insight wep 00:07 anyways, i got a vital soulstone, a rustproof +4 axe, +0 crystal plate mail, +2 gop, +3 water flowers, +0 elven cloak, +1 mithril elven helm, +0 round shield 00:07 i have a ring of free action, two amulets of ls and a ring of fire res 00:07 <@riker> did you loot the quest goal memory box yet? 00:08 <@riker> on the level dr archer was (goal), check either the top or the bottom room (randomly placed in one of them), there's a box that when opened gives you your memories back, which returns some skills and has some items 00:09 <@riker> !who 00:09 @riker: [hdf-eu] NetSysFire [ndnh] | [hdf-us] Schme [nh370] elky [nh370] haldisse [nh370] lgxia [evil] gpsalmoncannon [evil] dbb [slth] | [hdf-au] No current players 00:09 <@riker> !whereis NetSysFire 00:09 @riker: [hdf-eu] NetSysFire [ndnh]: (Mad Vam Fem Cha) T:116257 Lokoban level: 17 00:10 thats wrong 00:10 <@riker> the stuff isn't great, but free opera cloak I suppose 00:10 i am in goal 00:10 K2 beholder is broken 00:10 <@riker> yeah i assumed the location was wrong, i just cared about the race lol 00:10 <@riker> different loot in da box depending on ur race 00:10 i ignored the opera cloak because i already have displacement 00:11 <@riker> nice 00:11 via the water flowers 00:11 its an artifact 00:11 -!- Sgeo_ has joined #hardfought 00:11 <@riker> did you get them from vlad? 00:12 yes 00:12 i havent slain vlad yet though 00:14 -!- Sgeo_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:15 -!- Sgeo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] elky (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed quervo1's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:1830 00:16 riker you will laugh at me but i have collected literal metric tons of stuff, including 56k rocks, several wands of death, some rings of conflict and more 00:16 i am especially proud of the rocks though 00:18 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 00:20 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:23 hmm do vampires in ndnh also have sickness res? 00:23 goddamnit forgot i was blinded and moved... into the shopkeep 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] elky (Val Dwa Fem Law), 926 points, T:1971, killed by Mr. Nieb; the shopkeeper 00:28 [hdf-us] [spl] mradosav (Rog Elf Nbn Cha) destroyed mradosav's ghost, the former Cutpurse, on T:1423 00:29 F 00:29 Hate when that happens 00:29 Also hi been super busy, sorry for not talking much 00:31 <@riker> vampires do not have sick res iirc 00:31 <@riker> netsysfire why the fuck did you get the rocks 00:31 <@riker> wb umbire 00:32 <@riker> i feel that. idk about u but i know ive been super busy w the end of htis summer, and im starting school now so its gonna get worse in a different way! 00:37 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 00:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7526 00:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 bone arrows on an altar, on T:3538 00:47 riker because i can 00:48 [hdf-us] [spl] mradosav (Rog Elf Nbn Cha), 1727 points, T:3341, killed by a wand 00:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] LokLok (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 1452 points, T:1637, quit 00:50 and because i rock 00:50 i still want more though 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:13178 00:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 250 points, T:9007, killed by a hill orc 00:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4956 00:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:4964 01:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] elky (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3561 01:04 asshole god didn't give me hp again :( 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] elky (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1568 points, T:3568, killed by an imp 01:11 Were you at 1/7th? 01:11 You have to specifically be at 1/7th of your max or lower. 01:12 i think i was 3. but i did also just do some slight murder for a pick axe and also accidentally kicked a grey stone out a shop door. but i'm cute so tyr's an ass for not giving me hp 01:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a staff of healing entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5935 01:15 lmao 01:17 i knew you'd agree 01:19 also could i maybe perhaps get a general store with more than 6 things, rather than a specialized boutique one of these runs 01:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 16694 points, T:6375, killed by a chameleon imitating a balrog 01:20 8 by 6 weapons, taking bets on which artifact/s 01:23 none apparently 01:32 Very rare even in the best cases 01:32 It's like, 5% base? 01:32 i've found several in the past few days 01:32 Luck comes and goes 01:32 yeah 01:33 Even then you probably have some good non-artifact options in there 01:33 i stick with valk because i don't have to faff with spells and it used to come with a long sword to get excalibur early 01:34 so yeah it had several long swords os i could go that route, or can when i get zoomy enough to run from the sneks 01:36 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:42 Yeah, that's what I'd do 01:57 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:11 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:12 bwah. 02:12 el, any luck? 02:36 not much luck gearing up. keep finding cursed armor. gonna leave it for today 02:37 No worries 02:37 I'll probably resume my Un game 02:45 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 02:45 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 02:47 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:53 [hdf-au] [un] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:29887 02:57 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:01 there is no way to get teh messages to get colored right? 03:01 MENUCOLOR only colors inventory? 03:02 I've actually had the opposite problem where it occasionally colors lines of text 03:02 mostly during quest 03:02 in DCSS you can color normal messages 03:02 which is nice if you want to highlight items you walk over or such 03:09 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:12 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:18 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:30 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 03:38 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:14675, rt[3:25:31] 03:49 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:25580 03:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:25585 03:51 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 03:55 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:25686 04:02 <@Shadow_Rider> cbus do you still play dcss? 04:03 <@Shadow_Rider> theres a tournament soon 04:03 [hdf-au] [un] Umbire (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3615, rt[4:24:02] 04:03 nope 04:03 <@Shadow_Rider> ah ok 04:03 I know about the tournament but DCSS got boring when they removed all the fun stuff 04:03 almost just died to snow any 04:03 ants* 04:04 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a manes, on T:5203 04:04 hi rider 04:04 <@Shadow_Rider> hallo 04:04 Hello @Shadow_Rider, Welcome to #hardfought 04:04 <@Shadow_Rider> wym fun stuff? 04:04 all depth to the game 04:05 just simplifying everything 04:05 fun stuff like hunger? 04:05 <@Shadow_Rider> right 04:05 HMS isn't a great madman weapon but it is runnable with oprops 04:05 fun stuff like rods, simplifying spells, forgot mostly what I was annoyed with but it was a lot 04:06 <@Shadow_Rider> dcss on the complete streamline everything end of the spectrum 04:06 <@Shadow_Rider> nethack kinda on the opposite 04:06 Poly'ing into a manes almost killed my game. Leocrotta appeared, and then when I depoly'ed, I basically had 2 HP left. 04:06 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5760 04:07 nethack should double down on the food mechanic and finally add drinking water as requirement 04:07 and a dump clock where u have to find a lavatory every so often or get sick 04:07 what? just go in the corner of a room. 04:08 <@Shadow_Rider> dig a pit 04:08 you soil yourself. you feel repulsive! 04:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 12533 points, T:5811, killed by an elven lord 04:08 Ok, it -did_ kill me. 04:08 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 04:11 Why'd you poly 04:12 Polytrap. 04:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1949 04:14 I mean, I poly'ed the once, but it left me weak and want up against an elven lord who seemed to like fire 04:17 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1105 04:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Law), 7962 points, T:3252, killed by a land mine 04:25 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 04:27 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 112 points, T:317, killed by a jackal 04:37 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 04:41 -!- theRaisse has quit [Client Quit] 04:41 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7366 04:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Law), 337 points, T:955, killed by a gnome lord 05:10 Poison res and unihorn 05:11 yay yay yay 05:11 [hdf-au] [un] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:31369 05:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:9696 05:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) was bestowed with Magicbane by Thoth, on T:3243 05:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4751 05:37 [hdf-au] [un] Orcranger (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:32613 05:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", got "a silver dragon scale mail", on T:5976 05:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6146 05:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:11147 05:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a giant zombie), on T:8972 05:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:9028 06:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed greased fixed magic marker", got "a greased magic marker", on T:25751 06:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:25765 06:08 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 06:08 ugh Aphrodite on fucking soko entrance 06:09 almost out of ya 06:10 WHY IS THERE A PIT UNDER A TREE 06:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:25881 06:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25882 06:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:25893 06:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12494 06:15 [hdf-au] [un] Umbire (Sam Hum Fem Law), 13551 points, T:8932, quit 06:17 ...why does the Tourist have a pet croc 06:18 idgi 06:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:26001 06:21 it's from the 'exotic pets patch' apparently 06:21 Huh. 06:22 https://web.archive.org/web/20050406125557/http://members.shaw.ca/rob.ellwood/PatchesAndAdditions.html 06:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:26065 06:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:26076 06:24 > Offler *is* a crocodile god, but he's the wrong 06:24 diety for neutral tourists. Oh, well. 06:27 i don't think pterry himself complained about it. 06:34 I was just quoting the patch author there, idk anything about the discworld gods really 06:34 seems like they're implying that's why they gave tourists a crocodile pet 06:36 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:38 oh, there's a YANI I never came around to do. Offler should lithp 06:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:26173 06:42 Offler should what? 06:42 oh 06:42 haha 06:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Hum Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:15105 06:53 [hdf-us] [slth] dbb (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 pick of the grave", on T:2402 06:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 2 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:26623 06:55 bhaak: Do it 06:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered Tina, his faithful kitten, on T:522 06:57 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 7468 points, T:5202, zombified by a gnoll witherling 06:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 430 points, T:885, killed by a gas spore's explosion 07:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:26737 07:00 Umbire: IIRC it's not so easy. there are several places where the connection WHICH god said what is broken. possibly even who said it. 07:00 Oh dear 07:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:26774 07:01 if it were as easy as DEATH TALKING IN CAPITAL LETTERS, it would have already happened back then :) 07:04 Ye 07:08 there's some interesting thoughts in this: https://web.archive.org/web/20050210201033/http://members.shaw.ca/rob.ellwood/YANIs.txt 07:10 ehhhhhh not feelin' some of these 07:11 well yeah there's a whole bunch of stuff in there 07:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Hum Fem Cha) found Fire Brand on the floor, on T:16512 07:12 and it predates a lot of changes, for example 'grudge patch' that's in a few variants 07:12 that page describes it as 'squabble patch' lol 07:12 Yeah, it's a product of its time but a lot of this hasn't aged and not necessarily because vanilla's solved some of it 07:13 the game variability is just a bit "lol" in places 07:13 well either way I am finding it interesting to read 07:14 everything that's still applicable in this will find its way onto the archive 07:14 nice 07:14 no I'm def. finding it interesting 07:14 just some of it makes an audible clunk 07:15 which, this seems to be pre-3.4(!) so I'm not like TOO put off 07:16 3 sounds vaguely like what Evil eventually went with 07:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2064 07:18 seeds of the photography patch, fasthack (which, how old is brevish?) 07:21 µhack is like 4 years old 07:22 Ah, haha 07:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed greased fixed magic marker", got "a greased magic marker", on T:27269 07:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:3144 07:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed greased fixed magic marker", got "a greased magic marker", on T:27327 07:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed greased fixed magic marker", got "a greased magic marker", on T:27445 07:37 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3454 points, T:4269, killed by a Green-elf 07:39 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 07:45 -!- rosepinkyfuzz has joined #hardfought 07:49 Umbire: this list predates ANY of the variants that were created in this millennium 07:50 (how's that for a loaded framing? :) 07:50 at the time, only vanilla and slashem existed 07:50 No, I guessed that, was just curious as to when Brevish became Fully A Thing 07:50 since I didna remember 07:50 I don't think it ever did 07:50 slashem might even still have been in development 07:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:27966 07:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Plane of Earth, on T:27966 07:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5th time), on T:27967 07:53 slashem was originally on 3.3.1 I think 07:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Plane of Air, on T:28025 07:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Plane of Fire, on T:28078 07:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Plane of Water, on T:28100 07:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class ;), on T:28104 08:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:28164 08:03 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:9965 08:05 !tell NetSysFire beholder isnt broken. the whereis code polls the players location every X turns, sometimes it will report a location that doesnt match 08:05 Will do, K2! 08:07 the dnums might be wrong for ndnh K2, not sure 08:10 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 4 points, T:76, killed by a system shock 08:12 [hdf-us] [ndnh] post163 (Ana Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:7, caught himself in his own blast 08:13 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Premium Heart", on T:10570 08:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful purple worm, on T:28190 08:13 hmm 08:13 I just opened ndnh and ice caves has dnum 5 for example 08:14 beholder has it as 4th entry in the list 08:14 [hdf-us] [ndnh] post163 (Nob Elf Mal Cha), 57 points, T:123, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:28192 08:14 mines are dnum 4 08:14 did ndnh add a new dungeon (semi)recently? 08:14 so that'd explain why beholder thought NetSysFire was in the ice caves despite picking mines 08:14 the others are off as well, it's not just off by one I think 08:15 quest is dnum 13 08:15 right, if one is off, everything after it will also be off 08:15 I mean quest is 2 off 08:15 https://github.com/NHTangles/beholder/blob/master/beholder.py#L440 08:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1206518 points, T:28202, ascended 08:15 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rootkit/nethack/dumplog/1661166863.nh.html 08:16 that array needs to match the order in dungeons.def 08:19 [hdf-us] [nh4] dfla (post163) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, wiped out by a scroll of genocide 08:20 [hdf-us] [slth] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by life drainage 08:22 Nowhere is dnum 3 08:22 dnum 2* 08:23 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 77 points, T:187, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:23 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Fem Law), 8 points, T:18, slipped while mounting a saddled baby shimmering dragon 08:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:24 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:27, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:25 !rng tea nap 08:25 Stella: nap 08:25 okie thanks Beholder 08:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:985 08:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed efw's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:1076 08:28 !lastgame efw 08:28 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/e/efw/nethack/dumplog/1661416860.nh.html 08:28 -!- Semilg_ has joined #hardfought 08:28 -!- Semilg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:30 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) killed the invisible Medusa, on T:11303 08:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5067 08:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (hill orcs), on T:1528 08:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1980 points, T:1531, killed by a giant ant 08:35 ackchually, should've genoed giant ants 08:38 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 08:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1445 08:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] SrinivasSamJespe (Tou Hum Fem Neu) found Demonbane in a shop, on T:712 08:44 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 08:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] SrinivasSamJespe (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 386 points, T:1177, killed by a small mimic 08:51 [hdf-us] [un] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 278 points, T:776, killed by a boulder 08:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping 9 bone arrows on an altar, on T:3074 08:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3113 08:55 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Elf Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby red dragon 08:55 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a leather alchemy smock entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3218 08:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:662 09:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a staff of holiness entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4063 09:01 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Mal Cha) entered Moria, on T:17157, rt[3:54:40] 09:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:8014 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed SrinivasSamJespe's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:1565 09:06 !lastgame SrinivasSamJespe 09:06 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/SrinivasSamJespe/nethack/dumplog/1661430962.nh.html 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4987 09:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a quarterstaff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5627 09:16 -!- mode/Beholder [+Ziw] by Beholder 09:16 -!- zirconium.libera.chat changed the topic on #hardfought to: Welcome to Hardfought - https://www.hardfought.org/ ¤ public irc logs available on website ¤ ssh nethack@hardfought.org, nethack@eu.hardfought.org or nethack@au.hardfought.org ¤ AceHack is available to play! 09:16 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Beholder] by ChanServ 09:19 incorrect ndnh whereis listing should be fixed 09:19 thanks! 09:19 i think next release it might break again 09:19 but idk when next release is gonna be 09:20 how hard is it to get to 'nowhere' ? 09:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4825 09:22 depends 09:22 if you play an etherealoid, very easy 09:22 just #monster and select phase out 09:22 otherwise, impossible 09:22 if you're not eth and figure out how to get there lmk 09:23 K2 next ndnh update you'll have to change that list again 09:23 not if i dont pull in the update 09:24 :P 09:24 the update isnt gonna happen til next dnh compat release 09:24 i am holding my breath for it 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a quarterstaff entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:6288 09:24 at some point maybe i will give up and jump the gun on it, but for now it is still a reasonable wait 09:24 not sure what's even left to fix/tweak for next compat 09:25 a lot of shit is fucked i think 09:25 -!- FIQ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:25 but every time release candidate is announced stuff magically appears 09:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:4952 09:26 im fuzzing latest devel changes pulled onto ndnh as of yesterday 09:26 thought i started it last night but noooopeee 09:26 was excited for some fresh breakfast coredumps 09:26 instead I get nothing 09:26 it'll have to be fresh dinner coredumps instead :( 09:30 anyway compat breaking stuff keeps being added to devel dnh, check out some of the latest cool changes 09:30 like the 2 new mfactions or templates is what they are now 09:30 -!- FIQ has joined #hardfought 09:35 amateurhour: that web archive YANIs thing, that was all from rgrn discussions, right? 09:35 [hdf-us] [ace] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 61414 points, T:21229, killed by an invisible golden naga 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7653 09:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5683 09:39 I'm not sure about all but it does sound like a lot are at least 09:40 some of them might be the author just writing them down without having posted them, idk 09:40 <@nabru> !ping 09:40 @nabru: Pong! 09:45 !pong 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:11880 09:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:8284 09:50 >Armor could come in the 4-5 sizes that critters come 09:50 in. 09:50 >Mis-sized armor 09:50 would sometimes be darned annoying. "I found Gauntlets of 09:50 Power on level 1. Sized 'very tiny'.") 09:50 hahaha yeah imagine if you did that, would be soooooo annoying... 09:50 * Umbire shuffles awkwardly 09:51 -!- Alasnuyo has joined #hardfought 09:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed efw's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:6477 09:53 @n? dread seraph 09:53 Alasnuyo: Message from amateurhour at 2022-08-22 05:51 EDT: it looks like uaesh etc are all ints so those wouldn't overflow unless you went really hard, but the calculated values like ac would probably 09:53 dread seraph (Z) | Lvl: 54 | Diff: 28 | Spd: 16 | Res: cold sleep disintegrate poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 125 | Generates: special | AC: Nat 10/Dodge 0/Prot 13 | Attacks: 8d8 reach physical, 8d8 reach physical | Alignment: 20 | Flags: nopoly, flies, breathless, teleports, mindless, poisonous, regenerates, undead, seeinvis 09:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] SeamusMcRed (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 503 points, T:1104, killed by a gnome lord 09:54 Have managed to kill a dread seraph and perfect my Singing Sword. 09:55 Turns out the best weapon against it is Bael's sword, Genocide. Neatly dispatches all undeads that it tries to call up. 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a coyote, on T:9190 09:57 I'll definitely be grabbing that sword early on in all future playthroughs if possible. 09:59 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una), 2774 points, T:2623, zombified by a diseased orc corpse, while sleeping 10:01 Considering the sheer amount of undeads that the seraph calls up, it might be useful for no-genociding extinctionist runs if you have the means to quickly dispatch undeads in mass numbers. 10:06 nice one killing one 10:07 Alasnuyo in a future version bards and characters that bind a certain spirit will be able to #name the singing sword I think 10:07 so it should be possible to make a really sweet singing sword 10:09 If they're willing to be patient and wait until they get their hands on a long sword with neat object properties. 10:10 Does anyone know if those faceless statues does anything other than make the level into a horror movie set? So far all they've done is whisper. 10:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] McPanther (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1213 points, T:2716, killed by a wolf 10:14 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 10:18 There's a bunch of them in Mithardir quest, which is where I got my dread seraph to stone-to-flesh. The most hilarious thing about them is that the dread seraph statue has a weight of zero despite being of large size. It may as well be an air-filled styrofoam shell. 10:18 I'm not sure, I think if you stone to flesh them they have the illuminated template maybe? 10:18 <@riker> the faceless statues don't do anything by themselves 10:18 <@riker> the faceless part is an anti-unique generator thingy 10:18 Yeah, they're illuminated. Innate life-saving, I gather? I had to kill it twice. 10:18 <@riker> but yeah it forces illuminates doppelgangers of the thing 10:19 <@riker> if you rolled them i believe polypoids can replace doppelgangers 10:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] SeamusMcRed (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:861 10:19 <@riker> (if so, then you'll also find polypoids in the top of oona tower) 10:19 polypoids? 10:19 <@riker> insight shapeshifter 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Bar Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a killer bee, on T:9329 10:20 <@riker> illuminated will always resurrect them, each kill has a 1/3 chance to clear the illuminated status and remove their halo so they don't do it anymore 10:20 Ah, I see. 10:20 -!- Semilg_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:20 <@riker> it also makes them emit light, hate unholy, and count as divine minions (of no particular god) 10:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Ran Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:12264 10:22 <@riker> if you're curious, they look like a glowing aura + halo version of whatever they normally are i believe 10:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rustyspoon (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3624 10:24 Hmm. On that note, an interesting thing I noticed during the fight is that Genocide actually sears that seraph despite the artifact not having any holy or unholy damage going on. Is that supposed to happen? 10:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rustyspoon (Tou Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a runed dagger named !c on an altar, on T:3632 10:27 <@riker> i believe so 10:27 <@riker> i think genocide does in fact get extra unholy damage its just not shown in hte statblock 10:28 <@riker> oh okay it lost that but it gained green steel as a material 10:28 <@riker> so the same functionally 10:29 <@riker> greensteel gets an extra 2d9 unholy vs hates unholy so 10:29 Huh, that's neat. 10:30 <@riker> also yeah in general genocide is a really good weapon 10:30 <@riker> not sure if it still is but it used to be a pretty meta weapon for androids, since they can use good combos with it that they can't with lightsabers, and its super nice for ana/android quest 10:31 Personally, I think it's one of the most op weapon in the game, at least when it comes to non-unique monsters. 10:31 <@riker> the downsides is lawful intelligent and the awkward way to obtain it, so its not super viable for a lot of runs. its not really ever bad but like only having fire damage plus aoe means that for single target damage its not ideal and therefore not meta on anybody 10:31 <@riker> it's probably up there but its hard to really say it's OP imo - the damage output to anything with fire res is pretty lacking 10:32 <@riker> and idk about you but i've never really had a problem clearing castle garrisons etc. (where genocide shines) with a normal wep 10:32 Yeah, I had put on an op-align helmet everytime I want to use it. Not the most practical weapon 10:32 <@riker> its insane for astral and ana quest, i've used it exactly once on binder but it was nice there (sucks because u have to use a non-miska spirit though) 10:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:33 Am currently a monk so those aren't options for me. 10:33 <@riker> lmao fair enough 10:33 <@riker> as a monk im surprised you're using it. u can get pretty comparable damage if not just better using godhands or prem heart if you feel like going zen or something 10:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rustyspoon (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", got "a greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:4600 10:35 It's a very situational thing. I don't often bring it out. But I got an invocation candle early on and some paralysis potions, so I took the chance and ganked Bael for it. 10:36 The rest of the demon/devil lord artifacts are kinda lacklustre though, so I don't bother. 10:36 It's mostly just for floor clearing duties. 10:37 <@riker> three headed flail used to be pretty good on convicts, scourge of lolth is pretty insane in hell (multistriking silver), doomscreamer is always fine (2x acid but mostly just a worse ARS) 10:37 <@riker> can't argue with u though, they aren't great. i still wish shadowlock was usable but the passive dmg is too much 10:37 I hate doomscreamer 10:37 you're much more thorough than I am haha I would just get the fun gloves and punch away 10:37 I ran a game with it once 10:37 it sucked 10:37 <@riker> supposedly the eye of the fly is great now since you can inspect monster inventories 10:37 it gives perma detect monster 10:37 so yes 10:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rustyspoon (Tou Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Magicbane by The Lady, on T:5472 10:38 Wait really? Now I'm tempted to convert to chaotic just to be able to use it. 10:39 <@riker> eye of the fly is lawful i thought 10:39 <@riker> its beezy 10:39 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) destroyed arnibald the giant zombie, and former Heretic, on T:1995 10:39 Ah right. Lawful conversion then. 10:39 <@riker> yeah lawful 10:39 it isn't worth it if you aren't lawful imo. like it is nice if you are, but eh 10:40 also lawful sucks cause not chaotic 10:40 chaotic epic cause drool 10:42 I usually just put on the op-align helm whenever I want to bust out the drooling weapons. 10:42 <@riker> why is the eye of the fly invoke bugged lmao 10:42 is it? 10:42 <@riker> it doens't do anything when invoked 10:42 <@riker> gonna add a debug pline or 2 to figur eout why after i rebuid 10:42 needs spe 10:42 at least +1 10:42 <@riker> ah didn't realize 10:42 <@riker> why? lol 10:43 check devel 10:43 see if that was changed 10:43 it uses the black crystal invoke 10:43 all those invokes required spe 10:43 I think it was changed a year or two ago? 10:43 <@riker> yep it was 10:43 but the black crystal one got missed and was changed in devel? 10:43 <@riker> neato thanks demo 10:43 idk 10:43 it shouldn't require spe anymore 10:43 on any 10:44 after next devel 10:44 <@riker> yeah it works now 10:45 <@riker> updated wiki for the two new eyeo f the fly things (monster det, farlook) 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:14854 10:56 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:58 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) stole 200 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Cire Htims' hardware store, on T:15608 11:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) stole 4300 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kinojevis' general store, on T:15843 11:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8774 11:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rustyspoon (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8608 11:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rustyspoon (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 12907 points, T:8791, killed by an owlbear 11:08 wtf, elbereth didnt losen the grip 11:08 -!- Alasnuyo has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed OpticSugar's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:16698 11:09 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed WizzyTheWeird's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:17659 11:19 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:18015 11:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] SeamusMcRed (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed SeamusMcRed's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:3542 11:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] SeamusMcRed (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3834 11:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gilette (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 239 points, T:833, killed by an orc mummy 11:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a black unicorn, on T:14715 11:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 22419 points, T:14716, quit 11:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 111 points, T:89, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 11:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] P4cra (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2721 11:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Hlf Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:44026 11:45 <@hackemslashem> cbus, did you blind the owlbear? 11:46 <@Shadow_Rider> !lastgame rustyspoon 11:46 @Shadow_Rider: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/r/rustyspoon/nethack/dumplog/1661365541.nh.html 11:46 <@Shadow_Rider> yes 11:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] SeamusMcRed (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:4152 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Bar Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Cleaver by Crom, on T:13373 11:48 not first 11:48 I did when elbereth didnt work 11:48 <@hackemslashem> oh, hmm 11:48 <@Shadow_Rider> was the owl bear in a pit? 11:48 yeah 11:48 <@Shadow_Rider> if so it’ll prolly hit you 11:48 <@hackemslashem> If at first you don't Elbereth, Elbereth again! 11:49 elbereth succeded 11:49 it was written using magicbane too 11:49 <@Shadow_Rider> even if scared if it can’t run it’ll hit you 11:49 <@Shadow_Rider> same thing in a dead end corridor 11:49 <@hackemslashem> Rough 11:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Bar Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Frost Brand by Crom, on T:13892 11:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rustyspoon (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2950 11:54 [hdf-us] [ace] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 47772 points, T:5031, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted bugbear 11:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", got "a greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:10665 11:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Bar Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:14342 11:57 so if I find a "gem" on a unicorn thats a gem right? 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, killed by kicking a wall 11:59 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:17428 12:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rustyspoon (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by reading a book, on T:4218 12:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rustyspoon (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4798 12:08 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) killed Shelob, on T:17802 12:08 [hdf-us] [ace] metanite64 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 6324 points, T:59, quit 12:12 i think i am ready to take on doctor archer 12:12 NetSysFire: Message from K2 at 2022-08-25 08:05 EDT: beholder isnt broken. the whereis code polls the players location every X turns, sometimes it will report a location that doesnt match 12:13 ^ ndnh array was missing a level 12:14 yes i saw that in the backlog 12:14 !whereis NetSysFire 12:14 NetSysFire: [hdf-eu] NetSysFire [ndnh]: (Mad Vam Fem Cha) T:118589 The Quest level: 16 12:14 eh i guess its fixed upstream but Beholder hasnt restarted yet 12:14 is that correct? 12:14 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) killed the invisible Lady of Pain, on T:18572 12:15 i restarted beholder 12:15 its the quest, but level 4 12:15 see 'the whereis code polls the players location every X turns, sometimes it will report a location that doesnt match' 12:15 yes but there is no level 16 in the quest 12:15 1-5 12:15 Demo's fault 12:15 lol 12:15 :) 12:15 * NetSysFire blames Demo 12:15 @n?doctor archer 12:15 Doctor Archer (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 25 | Spd: 12 | Res: fire petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 40 | Generates: unique | AC: Nat 0/Dodge 0/Prot 10 | Attacks: 1d6 touch sleep, 1d6 weapon physical, 1d6 offhanded-weapon physical, 1d6 claw steals-quest-artifact | Alignment: 14 | Flags: omnivore, nopoly, stalker, covetous, infravisible 12:16 aight, lets goooo 12:17 hmm that is probably the depth of the level 12:17 relative to the start of the dungeon 12:17 wonder if dnh shows it the same way on whereis 12:17 it does 12:17 it uses depth(&u.uz) 12:17 so it's right 12:18 notabug wontfix 12:18 would be interesting to see what it does for nowhere 12:19 nowhere is off of like dlvl 4 I think 12:19 so it should be depth 5 12:19 ah right 12:19 I can't remember what the void is off of but it isn't off of astral 12:19 -!- Semilg has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:19 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] NetSysFire (Mad Vam Fem Cha) killed Doctor Archer, on T:119032 12:19 woooooooooo 12:20 that is actually my first quest nemesis kill ever, in any variant 12:20 gratz 12:20 !booze everyone 12:20 * Beholder hurls everyone a pint of grog, excreted by the late Pinobot at 41 degrees Celsius. 12:20 including vanilla? 12:20 wow 12:20 congratsv 12:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] SeamusMcRed (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6606 12:21 amateurhour: yes 12:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] maneatingcow (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2690 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) found Trollsbane on the floor, on T:19757 12:25 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 12:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:9796 12:33 -!- Semilg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:37 Demo: i have also tinned him 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:10303 12:38 put him in your trophy case 12:39 i did, its in my magic chest with my 56k rocks 12:40 Demo: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Madman_quest#Lower_filler_level.28s.29 theres a contaminated patient in the middle but how do you get there? 12:41 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:19717 12:45 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) wished for "2 uncursed scrolls of genocide", on T:19727 12:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:13292 12:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] SeamusMcRed (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:9056 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Curate (level 14), on T:12435 12:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] SeamusMcRed (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 18082 points, T:9200, killed by a plains centaur 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:22792 12:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:13852 13:01 NetSysFire: https://github.com/Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/dNAO/issues/1960 13:02 also you lied, i quaffed some sleeping potions as a vampire (which has sleep res) and it didnt help with my sanity at all 13:02 what was the buc? 13:03 uncursed are +5 sanity, blessed are +15, cursed are -5 13:04 uhhhh 13:04 good question 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:23132 13:05 you wanna drink the ones that make you itchy to wield barehanded 13:05 what do i use human eyeballs for? 13:05 nothing 13:05 Well, I use them for seeing but you do you 13:08 you three are all dark blue it's way too confusing 13:08 one of you gotta change nick 13:08 You're all black on white and you don't see me complaining 13:08 oh RIGHT 13:08 i almost forgot the ABJECT HORROR i felt when I realised you use a black on white terminal 13:08 you fucking monster 13:09 what on earth is actually wrong with you 13:09 :-P 13:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) attained the rank of Enchanter (level 14), on T:23511 13:13 i found ramiel 13:13 its nice early game i guess 13:13 usable midgame as well maybe 13:15 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:36420 13:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:14598 13:20 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] NetSysFire (Mad Vam Fem Cha) killed Sir Garland, on T:123135 13:20 it looks great in my collection 13:21 oh yeah ramiel will be great for chaos1 13:24 You have 16 insight points. 13:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] peterg (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4231 13:27 maybe worth cranking up that insight and getting some funky insight weapons 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) found the Eye of the Aethiopica on the floor, on T:25005 13:29 <@riker> why crank it up manually 13:29 <@riker> just go stare at shit and lose your mind and recover and have a new appreciation for the blood on your funny swords 13:29 [hdf-us] [ace] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 15483 points, T:1011, killed by a crossbow bolt 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:25085 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25087 13:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rustyspoon (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:7265 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 174225 points, T:19216, killed by Croesus 13:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] peterg (Kni Hum Fem Law), 4650 points, T:5357, killed by an invisible stalker 13:48 [hdf-us] [ace] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (humans), on T:1 13:49 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:20185 13:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rustyspoon (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9727 13:52 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:20444 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 21049 points, T:19473, killed by a mountain centaur 14:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Mage (level 30), on T:54395 14:09 -!- dax has joined #hardfought 14:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rustyspoon (Val Hum Fem Law) was bestowed with Mjollnir by Tyr, on T:15462 14:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rustyspoon (Val Hum Fem Law) was bestowed with Ogresmasher by Tyr, on T:15609 14:17 lol 14:17 sacrificed an ogre 14:17 got ogresmasher 14:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:17581 14:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:13701 14:18 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 14:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu (level 14), on T:17800 14:24 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) killed Axus, on T:22872 14:30 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) killed Oona, on T:23240 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law) killed Nalzok, on T:14262 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law) found the Mitre of Holiness carried by a monster, on T:14262 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Canoness (level 18), on T:14269 14:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:14277 14:34 -!- oh6 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 14:35 -!- qt is now known as idito 14:36 "It looks like you're killing ogres. Would you like some help with that? Here you go." 14:36 <@riker> yasi: your next artifact gift after extinctioning ogres/trolls is guaranteed to be ogresmasher/trollsbane as a reward for your hard work 14:36 <@riker> clearly you really enjoy that, why not make it easier? 14:36 -!- idito is now known as qt 14:44 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 14:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] peterg (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 856 points, T:1940, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 14:47 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:13992 14:47 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:50 -!- hackemslashem has joined #hardfought 14:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Arc Hob Mal Neu) had a stone knife entrusted to him by Camaxtli, on T:3075 14:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Arc Hob Mal Neu), 670 points, T:3355, killed by a giant bat 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law) murdered Shana 2, her faithful rock troll, on T:15784 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:7247 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 4340 points, T:7441, killed by a wolf, while fainted from lack of food 15:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) stole 4469 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Juyn's jewelers, on T:15516 15:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed misotheistic fragment", on T:127446 15:20 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 15:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed greased fixed magic marker", got "a greased magic marker", on T:19632 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Stormbringer by Anhur, on T:20137 15:22 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a bolt of cold), on T:16937 15:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1758 points, T:2959, killed by a gnome lord 15:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "2 cursed greased fixed potions of invisibility", got "2 greased brilliant blue potions", on T:19663 15:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2141 15:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "uncursed magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:55439 15:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:19699 15:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) found the Tsurugi of Muramasa, on T:19704 15:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:19709 15:32 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:16156 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", got "2 blessed scrolls labeled ANDOVA BEGARIN", on T:16302 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1743 points, T:2163, killed by an invisible gnome king 15:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rustyspoon (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:22651 16:04 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:16337 16:06 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2872 16:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) hit with a wielded weapon (dagger) for the first time, on T:3040 16:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", got "a blessed greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:16696 16:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Pri Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", got "a blessed octagonal amulet", on T:16707 16:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4760 16:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Orcus, on T:129077 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a cave spider corpse, on T:4809 16:32 [hdf-us] [ace] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 38462 points, T:6053, killed by a soldier ant 16:52 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:53 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 16:55 You destroy the priest mummy! You feel as if you need some help. You feel relieved. 16:57 you got the giga inventory curse probably and it uncursed something blessed you were wearing 17:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Kokushu (level 18), on T:21509 17:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:129323 17:05 i know but i found it a yafm 17:06 i found a graveyard full of amateurhour's corpses 17:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] maneatingcow (Val Hum Fem Law) was bestowed with Mjollnir by Tyr, on T:3737 17:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) found Demonbane on the floor, on T:21815 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:7656 17:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 8 poisoned crude arrows on an altar, on T:7900 17:14 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:16 @n?lilitu 17:16 lilitu (&) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 18 | Res: fire poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 70 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: Nat 2/Dodge 10/Prot 6 | Attacks: 1d6 weapon physical, 1d6 offhanded-weapon physical, 1d12 sting inflict-doubt, 1d12 sting inflict-doubt, 0d6 cast clerical | Alignment: -9 | Flags: flies, stalker, poisonous, infravisible, demon 17:16 whats agnosis? 17:18 causes you to temporarily get the doubtful intrinsic 17:18 which means you can't pray or use clerical magic (last part doesn't rly affect madmen as they are charisma casters) 17:19 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 99408 points, T:21520, killed by a leocrotta, while paralyzed by a ghoul 17:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:22191 17:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:22472 17:34 [hdf-us] [ace] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 33444 points, T:3209, killed by an orc zombie 17:38 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:38 really love it when im asked to name a scroll i heard be read by a mob i never even saw 17:41 i have no idea what i'm naming this 17:43 probably create monster 17:44 i don't see any tho 17:48 ooh, leprechaun hall 17:51 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 17:59 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] elky (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:8144 18:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] elky (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3561 points, T:8211, killed by an imp 18:06 scroll of teleport would be more helpful if it didn't land me in the middle of other hostiles 18:07 this is why you should bless them if you do not have tele control yet 18:07 i am going to take on medusa, so its really alright to just blind myself and bash her to pieces? 18:07 i was barely level 7 18:07 dungeon level 7 or xp 7? 18:07 xp 18:07 ah 18:12 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 18:13 uh Demo 18:13 You hit Medusa! You bite Medusa! 18:13 not turned to stone, i think thats a bug 18:13 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] NetSysFire (Mad Vam Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:132964 18:14 a statue of an anachronounbinder named amateurhour 18:14 why are there so many amateurhours in my game 18:14 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:18 hmmm 18:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 11518 points, T:9217, quit 18:25 [hdf-us] [ace] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 18150 points, T:1312, killed by a gnome 18:25 -!- Gaelan_ has joined #hardfought 18:28 <@nabru> !rng order food | eat what I have in the fridge 18:28 @nabru: eat what I have in the fridge 18:29 eat the fridge 18:30 does it matter if i use a ring engraved with the wings of garuda or one with a white lotus? 18:31 -!- rosepinkyfuzz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) became Thoth's Envoy of Balance, on T:27427 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) was bestowed with spellbook of finger of death, on T:27427 18:33 -!- mariari has quit [*.net *.split] 18:33 -!- Gaelan has quit [*.net *.split] 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) was bestowed with Ogresmasher by Thoth, on T:27581 18:36 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) entered the Planes, on T:103824 18:36 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 18:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5 times), on T:103831 18:37 [hdf-us] [evil] eraserhead97 (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 5679 points, T:7641, quit 18:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) genocided electric eels, on T:103869 18:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) genocided giant eels, on T:103869 18:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) genocided krakens, on T:103870 18:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1384 points, T:2697, killed by a manes, while praying 18:40 -!- mariari has joined #hardfought 18:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Nob Dro Fem Cha), 0 points, T:16, slipped while mounting a saddled giant spider 18:42 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) performed her first annihilation (drows), on T:1 18:42 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:45 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of annihilation 18:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) bribed Asmodeus with 2 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:24320 18:47 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 154 points, T:771, killed by a mithril elven dagger 18:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3 points, T:11, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:54 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:104201 18:54 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed the White Horse, on T:104207 18:56 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) murdered her faithful giant beetle, on T:104235 18:57 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) murdered her faithful giant beetle, on T:104274 18:57 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) murdered her faithful fire ant, on T:104279 18:57 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) murdered her faithful giant beetle, on T:104279 18:58 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:104299 18:58 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed the saddled Black Horse, on T:104299 18:59 Congrats, bouquet 18:59 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu), 5614406 points, T:104339, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bouquet/evilhack/dumplog/1658340870.evil.html 19:01 gg bouquet! 19:04 [hdf-us] [un] skwrl (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2473 points, T:3908, killed by a yeti 19:05 [hdf-us] [ace] hothraxxa (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 23548 points, T:1883, killed by a dwarf 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] elky (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1007 points, T:1997, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 19:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:25395 19:07 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 796 points, T:901, killed by the Goblin King 19:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:25495 19:10 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 19:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rootkit (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:25722 19:18 @n?dark young 19:18 dark young (q) | Lvl: 25 | Diff: 31 | Spd: 18 | Res: fire cold shock poison acid | Confers: fire cold shock acid | MR: 30 | Generates: dungeons | AC: Nat 16/Dodge 0/Prot 0 | Attacks: 4d4 tentacle drain str, 4d4 tentacle drain str, 2d8 hug physical, 2d10 bite elemental-acid | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, amphibious, thick hide 19:18 !tell cathartes Working on the potion of blood article - I remember there's a refsrc that points to the pages for SLASH'EM code. If so, remind me how you point to that? 19:18 I'm on it, Umbire. 19:18 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 19:25 [hdf-au] [nh370] seemunhuffer69 (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3656 19:25 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] NetSysFire (Mad Vam Fem Cha) destroyed the Lokoban Pinata, on T:135546 19:27 [hdf-au] [nh370] seemunhuffer69 (Kni Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a dagger on an altar, on T:3749 19:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:8038 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Pri Hum Mal Law), 461 points, T:1308, killed by a little dog 19:31 uhh Demo 19:32 i tamed a dark young as a vampiric minion, which is actually untamable https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Dark_young 19:33 <@ChrisANG> Dark young are not untamable? 19:33 <@ChrisANG> I guess at one point they were untameable. 19:34 the wiki is wrong then 19:34 <@ChrisANG> Those wiki stat blocks are auto generated. But I hate the individual wiki pages because they so easily become out of date 😄 19:34 aight i am gonna attempt vlad 19:34 @n?vlad the impaler 19:34 Vlad the Impaler (V) | Lvl: 16 | Diff: 21 | Spd: 18 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: unique | AC: Nat 14/Dodge 0/Prot 0 | Attacks: 0d0 gaze sex, 1d10 weapon physical, 1d12 bite vampire-drain | Alignment: -13 | Flags: nopoly, flies, breathless, stalker, covetous, poisonous, regenerates, infravisible, undead 19:35 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] NetSysFire (Mad Vam Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:137423 19:36 \o/ 19:36 Chris, you have a more up-to-date gist full of stat blocks for the wiki, yeah? 19:36 Or, relatively updated anyway. 19:36 also woof you lose -50 alignment if you drink vamp blood as a non-vamp lawful or monk 19:38 so you gain 50 alignment :> 19:38 shaddup >:v 19:38 you know what I meant lol 19:38 -!- PetraKelly has joined #hardfought 19:38 Hi guys 19:38 also that's for THEM I should specify 19:38 renovating the page 19:39 dax: didnt know you played nethack 19:39 @ChrisANG I know dnh has blood, but does it have vamp blood 19:39 <@ChrisANG> No 19:39 ah. 19:39 Netsysfire you don't have anything to do with Netfire LLC? 19:39 In any case would it be better to like 19:39 make a different article for dnh blood 19:40 given how different it is from Slash/THEM/Un/et. al 19:40 PetraKelly: no 19:40 good 19:40 lol 19:40 why 19:40 I think I probably asked you that before 19:40 <@ChrisANG> Notices the statblock question Lemme check gist.... 19:41 bad memories, they got me fired from a job because I wouldn't call the president of my company at 3am 19:41 big client, and they eventually said we go or petra goes, so I totally understood and left 19:44 <@ChrisANG> Also vampire minions should let you tame otherwise-untameable monsters. But that is not happening for next version 😄 19:45 <@ChrisANG> The most recent gist statblocks seem to claim that dark young are notame. 19:45 Hm. 19:45 As for the blood article thing? 19:45 this discussion of blood is making me hungry for morcilla 19:46 <@ChrisANG> What about the blood article? 19:46 but there aren't very many places where they prepare it in the US 19:47 <@ChrisANG> Oh. Yeah, probably re: different article. 19:47 👍 19:47 <@ChrisANG> You can do a lot of weird stuff with dnh blood, which most people don't know to do 😄 19:48 <@ChrisANG> Though to be fair none of those uses come anywhere close to "infinite holy water" in terms of usefulness. 19:48 -!- krm26_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:48 stop mentioning blood or I'll do an online purchase I will regret when I get my credit card bill 19:48 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 19:50 <@ChrisANG> "Why does this still claim it's notame?" 19:50 <@ChrisANG> Sprintf(eos(pbuf)," |notame=%s\n", (!(is_covetous(ptr) || is_human(ptr))) ? "1":""); 😦 19:51 <@ChrisANG> That hasn't been the no tame check for years at this point. 19:52 anything cudly wudly fuzzy should (and is I believe) be tamable 19:54 if death starts to be described as fuzzy, woolly, hairy, etc then it needs to be tamable 19:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:8745 19:56 <@ChrisANG> @Umbyre (he/him) https://gist.github.com/Chris-plus-alphanumericgibberish/c9aded024187523189308510e32ba334 that's from 3.21.4 (with the notame bug fixed) 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1498 19:58 <@riker> petra im curious what depictions of death make them woolly 19:58 <@riker> i can understand fuzzy as "muddled" or just as fuzzy but like 19:58 <@riker> i want to see a sheep with evil devil horns and a cool scythe 19:59 Thank u Chris 19:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Bin Orc Mal Non), 983 points, T:4087, killed by a piranha 20:00 @n?invidiak 20:00 invidiak (&) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 12 | Res: cold poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: gehennom | AC: Nat 10/Dodge 0/Prot 0 | Attacks: 3d6 non-contact-attack black-web-shadow, 3d6 non-contact-attack black-web-shadow | Alignment: -13 | Flags: flies, phases, breathless, stalker, poisonous, infravisible, demon, seeinvis 20:00 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1150 points, T:2216, killed by a rabid rat, while reading a book 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Pri Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4127 20:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Pri Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4321 20:11 I wonder if anyone chaotic's done an ascension using vampire blood 20:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Pri Hum Mal Law), 3887 points, T:4562, killed by a black unicorn 20:13 [hdf-eu] [un] rainyrat (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 3854 points, T:2918, killed by a large dog 20:15 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:27689 20:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed Wallet of Perseus", on T:18418 20:21 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:27911 20:22 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:27967 20:22 so shhh...went on a job interview with a customer of my current employer...they took me out for drinks so I guess that means it went ok? 20:23 maybe a bit too much arms around my waist for pictures 20:23 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:28065 20:24 but those guys were pretty toasted 20:30 if they took you for drinks, I assume they liked you PetraKelly 20:30 or they wanted you to drunkenly confess something 20:32 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 20:32 Alright, brb, then to work on dnh blood potions 20:39 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:41 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 20:47 umby bring me morcilla and onions 20:48 well we all knew each other to begin with nabby 20:49 maybe they think I'm hot, once at 4am I got pulled over by the police and he said I only pulled you over becayuse you're HOT (I was much much younger then) 20:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:20879 20:49 that happens to me all the time too 20:50 if something similar happened, they'd say I need a nanny 20:50 today 20:52 lol 20:53 oh on that pull over, the town changed the dash cam recording from automatic when they put the lights on to the officer choice 20:53 qt was the #1 upvoted person on hotornot.com 20:54 I obviously sued them 20:54 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:54 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:55 did you win? 20:55 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:55 they settled, not for a lot $ but better screening of their officers, I wanted dash cam and body cam footage to always be continous but could not get that 20:56 I understand that an officer doesn't want footage of them taking a crap after eating a borito, but relase of footage can always be mediated 20:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the Nightmare, on T:21216 20:58 They threw up a lot of technical hurdles why this is not possible...storage, etc....obviously I know they were all false 20:58 since like K2 you would not buy that 20:58 but I got improvements so take what you can get 21:00 and they held up their end of the bargain? 21:00 for the most part yes 21:00 nice 21:01 I am not one who like talks  or shows off liek who I know 21:02 but my best fried is a judge, I have 2 friends who are captains on the police force...we're all long friends from way back, I could have been nasty but thats not me 21:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:21777 21:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Kni Hum Fem Law) was given their Quest, on T:21854 21:05 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12650 21:05 if I was pulled over just becuase they thought I was hot... i'd take that 21:05 at my age i'll take that 21:06 tbh, I would find it creepy 21:08 an armed man who has the power to curtail your rights and liberty to one degree or another using that power to aggressively catcall you, seems pretty scary to be on the receiving end of that honestly 21:08 i should have ended my comment with /s 21:09 i knew you were joking 21:09 i dont talk 2 cops 21:09 you can, just be polite and say as little as possible 21:09 i only talk to cops if they call me hot 21:09 except for my friends that became cops 21:10 one of them wanted me to talk to the police about an alleged trespassing crime i was allegedly involved with and i got pretty mad at him 21:11 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:12 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:28928 21:14 that reminds me of when my nephew (15) fot arrested for criminal trespassthe crimal aspect underage drinking.... 21:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] elky (Val Dwa Fem Law), 589 points, T:1391, killed by a rothe 21:14 I of course used my contacts to get him a good kawyer 21:15 where was he trespassing? 21:15 like what type of place 21:15 house party parents away 21:16 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:29101 21:17 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Mon Bat Mal Cha), 4549088 points, T:29106, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/notdnethack/dumplog/1661394829.ndnh.txt 21:17 my sister called me straight way, and when I got there there were like 50 cars of parents waing to pick up their kids after police processing 21:17 grats malor 21:17 really? 21:17 do these kids need criminal records for this? 21:17 yes it wwas like a stupid summer teen movie 21:17 <@malor> thanks. 21:18 thats why he need a lawyer 21:18 <@malor> 3rd longest streak now and finally the longest active streak! 21:18 they should just be let off with a caution and some scary police glowering 21:18 they shouldnt have a drinking age. or drug ages or illegal drugs to distribute/posses 21:18 !streak malor 21:18 Grasshopper: [hdf-us] malor Max[ndnh]: 28 (2022-05-11 - 2022-08-25)(current). 21:18 \o/ 21:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Nimune, on T:22771 21:18 deno I half agree with you 21:19 deno sry I am the queen of typos 21:19 again damn it 21:19 heh 21:19 they should make it illegal to not possess drugs 21:19 because it shows you're lame 21:19 yeah 21:20 everyone does drugs anyway 21:20 prozac, valium, asprin... 21:20 I have painkillers and allergy medications, does it count? 21:20 I'm very liberal and education is the key so people can make informed choices 21:20 painkillers definitely 21:20 dont do things that will negatively impact you 21:20 there shouldnt be a law against it, you should just not hurt yourself 21:21 <@malor> +100 21:21 should is a word used too often 21:21 if they make a choice I do not like god bless them 21:21 there should be a law against "should" 21:22 <@malor> ironically this is more reasonable than most laws even though it itself contridicts its own law. 21:22 should is the conditional conjugation of the verb shall...whats the problem 21:22 even if I don't really like drugs and have little to no interest in trying them, having them illegal is a waste of time and resources and causes more problems than it solves 21:22 mostly true nabby 21:22 <@malor> +100 21:24 <@malor> The reason I never tried any drugs is I knew for me that if I enjoyed them I would immediately spend all my time seeking them and my life would essentially be over. 21:24 I know we don't retain the conitional conjucation in english much but we still have may->might can->could shall->should etfc 21:25 <@malor> so for self preservation I never tried even once. Any drug. Not even alcohol. And I had an extremely painful illness and only took pain killers at night to sleep (because otherwise I would wake up crying over and over). Any drug I avoid. I would take diabetes stuff or other "stay alive" type drugs of course if I needed to do so. 21:25 I dont avoid scotch.... 21:26 I like a few beers sometimes, but that's it 21:26 do u consume caffeine ever malor? 21:27 <@malor> very rarely. 21:27 dont start on coffee,,,, 21:27 caffeine is a drug and should be treated as one 21:27 yes it is 21:27 I already consume too much junk food, so that's probably an addiction. And yep, I woudl consider caffeine as a (very light) drug 21:27 *would 21:28 drug use should be very deliberate 21:28 <@malor> like I drink pretty much only water and I rarely have caffenine in other forms (chocolate, etc.). So in a given week "zero intake", but I don't avoid it like the plague and I will have a "coke" sometimes if that is what is avilable and water isn't readily available in COLD form. 21:28 junk food/snacks are the reason for weight gain 21:28 eat a lot at regular meal times and refuse snacks 21:29 <@malor> my reason for being a bit over weight (220 lbs at 6'0") is due to massive over eating my whole life 🙂 Somehow my metabolism keeps me realively "light", but I could lose 25 pounds to get to my 20's weight. 21:29 I;m taller than you by 2 inches 21:29 <@malor> Are you female PetraKelly? If so, you are very tall! 21:29 but lighter by 60 lbs 21:30 <@malor> Oh my goodness. You could likely afford to add a few pounds honestly. 21:30 yes...played basketball on scholarship in uni 21:30 I'm going off to smoky a joint now 21:30 see ya's in a bit 21:30 <@malor> Also, let me spam this a few times: https://nethackscoreboard.org/streaks.all.html Check out the #3 spot 🙂 21:30 [hdf-eu] [sp] OhNoNotAgain (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3921 21:30 nice, eventually someday you will beat Tatiru 21:30 *Tariru 21:30 weed is legal in Thailand too 21:31 <@malor> I am not even half way to Tariru, so I doubt that will happen. Seems impossible. But I have been getting lucky for 28 games, so why not a few more, I hope 🙂 21:31 quality still mediocre though 21:31 I have some medical reasons why I cant gain weight 21:31 <@malor> My goal is to get to 30 since only one other streak ever went that long. 21:31 i found stormbringer on the black knight 21:31 malor: you beat my longest streak 21:31 I only got to 19 21:32 grassy I thought you wre getting high 21:32 then a damn gnome with a wand of sleep, and my narcolepsy 21:32 PetraKelly, yeah joint is in mouth but not lit 21:32 addicted to IRC 21:32 <@malor> I see. That's a tough problem to have. People don't usually understand how tough "forced thinness" can be. But I understand it as just as difficult as the other direction. 21:32 well damn it if thats what you want, light it up 21:33 PetraKelly, done 21:33 good boy 21:33 patronising! 21:33 <@malor> I see your streak Grasshopper. 19 is prodigious also. Top 13! 21:33 I wasn't 21:33 or matronising if you isentify as female 21:34 I identify myself as a mother 21:34 is OK 21:34 and thing why the hell did my girls need to go to this or that school lol 21:34 I also am a parent (not a boy) 21:35 i ate 1500 calories of peanut butter m&ms on top of normal meals the other day and ate 1500 calories today of panda express on top of normal meals and tend to eat a lot of horrible things like that but am the same weight and height as petrakelly, lol 21:36 [hdf-eu] [sp] OhNoNotAgain (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) averted death, on T:4107 21:36 well luckily one went to my alma mater so we got some breaks, but the other NOT.  And they would go to uni in europe where it would be free 21:36 since they are EU citizens 21:37 [hdf-eu] [sp] OhNoNotAgain (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 4051 points, T:4115, killed by a tengu 21:37 both of mine are choosing against uni 21:37 70...80% of jobs in reality do not need uni 21:37 which I find a little disappointing, but it is their lives 21:37 exactly 21:37 you need to learn the job uni doesn't teach you that 21:38 technical college or apprenticeships often better, more applied obviously 21:38 and they can earn money for 4 years rather than sucking it up 21:38 they do enjoy having $$$ 21:39 they might need to  take a class or two (accounting, business writing, language) 21:39 "beauty technician" 21:39 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] NetSysFire (Mad Vam Fem Cha) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:142870 21:39 :( he killed my vampire dark young 21:40 they can earn lots of money too...but have them move to greece so they can retire at 50 21:40 the other one might end up an executive assistant or something, way she's going 21:40 I essentially retired at 45 21:41 for some reason (based on observation) executive assitant =prostitute 21:41 which is good, as I decided at 17 that was my target 21:41 PetraKelly, ewwww no 21:41 the thought crossed my mind 21:41 when I was younger, ppl tried to get me caught up in that 21:42 me too 21:42 it's not that I am sooo moral I didn't do that but more that I wanted my brain to be recognized 21:43 likewise 21:44 some of my best friends have been in the industry 21:45 after college, I got many offers from russian comapnies to fly me there for job interviews 21:46 <@malor> I kid you not: This is WAY less than I eat nearly every day. I am a prodigious eater. At restaurants I always get double entree at least 2 appetizers and a salad and a soup. And that is not an exaggeration in any way. 21:46 I would not want to be in Russia under those circumstances 21:46 that doesn't sound very excessive 21:47 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] NetSysFire (Mad Vam Fem Cha) killed the Nightmare, on T:143325 21:47 that was for malor of course 21:47 that sounds excessive lol 21:47 nor would I....in both my places I own I ahve ukranian families 21:47 <@malor> It has worked for me for a long time 🙂 21:47 2 appetizers is enough to not need a meal 21:48 especially with salad and a soup 21:48 double entree alone could make sense if very hungry 21:48 idk i dream a lot about eating a lot of food 21:48 in barcelona there is a place where they serve every small food from around the world you can imagine 21:49 <@malor> Before I was married and I never went to a "real restaurant" I would go to subway every day for dinner and get 3 foot longs and a dozen cookies. Then later that night I would order 2 dominos pizzas. Man I miss those days. I ate even more back then when I was still young 🙂 21:49 so you can get 1 chicken finger, 1 chinese dumpling, 1 chese pergie, etc 21:49 that is an amazing amount of food. did you do any exercise or lift weights or anything when you were a lot younger and doing that? 21:50 when you exercise a lot you can eat food basically without worrying 21:50 then as soon as the treadmill stops, the kilos go on 21:51 I should get back in the pool, but I've been too busy (yeah, retired, too busy, but true) 21:52 <@malor> I played a lot of sports. But I never lifted weights other than a single year where I was doing it with a friend. The lots of sports worked well enough. And even now with double-eating I am only 25 pounds over the weight I was in my 20's when I was in the shape I wanted to be in basically. 21:53 If I exercise, I get trim and ripped, but if I don't then I just get fat 21:53 no half-way solution unf 21:54 cos I've done a lot of weights 21:54 and other stuff 21:54 but when not exercising, the muscle droops and looks flabby (even if it isn't) 21:56 <@malor> Also I have a decent sized frame. Very few people would call me fat. I call myself fat though 🙂 21:59 I'm in Thailand, people call me fat all the time 22:00 there is no understanding that I might not like it 22:00 <@malor> Oh yeah, I would probably get called fat outside the USA. I imagine thinner americans get that. 22:00 cultural thing 22:00 but my wife, when she is kind, tells me I am not really fat, cos she has been to Australia 22:00 and knows what fat really is 22:00 <@malor> are they big there? 22:01 you bet 22:01 much like USA I imagine 22:11 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 22:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a plains centaur, on T:13034 22:13 @n?displacer beast 22:13 displacer beast (f) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 16 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: Nat 0/Dodge 20/Prot 0 | Attacks: 2d4 tentacle physical, 2d4 tentacle physical, 1d8 bite physical, 1d3 claw physical, 1d3 claw physical | Alignment: -3 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, infravisible 22:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1394 points, T:2309, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 22:15 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 22:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first item, on T:13138 22:16 I;ve never been a subway fan and if I order a custom sub, 15 bucks later... 22:17 <@malor> Subway is the worst of the shops like it, but still good. 22:18 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Rog Hum Mal Neu) had a cloak of invisibility entrusted to him by Mog, on T:13269 22:18 I don't like place holders....so on a sub, I want salami, tomato onion and mayo.....forget the mrsa filled lettuce or ham....on a taco I like besides the beef,,,tomato avacado 22:19 a nice lunch sandich is bacon, tomato, onion and avacado 22:20 I can go on and on but you get the idea 22:20 @n?minotaur 22:20 minotaur (H) | Lvl: 15 | Diff: 17 | Spd: 15 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom | AC: Nat 4/Dodge 0/Prot 0 | Attacks: 3d10 claw physical, 3d10 claw physical, 2d8 butt physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, infravisible 22:21 Demo: why is every corpse and every player statue in my game an anachronounbinder named amateurhour 22:22 because god is trying to tell you something? 22:22 * NetSysFire calls the police, says amateurhour is a drug dealer 22:22 he sells tins of dried yellow molds!! 22:22 also i dont believe in god, both ingame and here 22:23 cause ndnh players don't die 22:23 you don't know what you are doing netsys..you have to teelk them that he is threatening to kill pets so a swat team is called in, jeez LEARN 22:26 @malor, PetraKelly when I was a lad I worked in the nightclub scene in Canberra, and there was this one little club in a basement 22:26 that was called "Subway" 22:26 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:26 anyway, they eventually went under (pun intended) 22:27 and several owners and some years later, the place emerged as a "Subway" franchise 22:27 I batrented back in the day, and yes, I was flirty to get tips 22:27 for the sandwiches, I mean 22:27 thats total irony grasshopper 22:27 batrented, such an exciting career 22:27 PetraKelly, yeah 22:29 i found the castle 22:29 I also was flirty to get tips, but with limited success ;) 22:30 I think the real evil is domios...Iw as suprised when they made in oz...I mean there are tons of places where you can get better pizza at the same place...thak god thy pulled out of italy 22:30 same price 22:31 and mostly limited opportunity to do anything about said flirtiness as you would actually be quite busy on the job 22:31 urgh dominos 22:31 just talk, I would never touch a customer 22:31 we make our own pizzas now 22:32 but hey, if domios ahs a special, I'll drive to them and buy it 22:33 if I ahve a craving for a thin crust sausage beef and green pepper 22:34 PetraKelly, what you do after work is different 22:34 -!- mariari has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:35 not like you are their therapist, though sometimes bartenders are somewhat 22:35 I dont understand, is that a statement or a question 22:35 -!- mariari has joined #hardfought 22:35 just talk, I would never touch a customer 22:35 I haven't bartended in a long time like 20 years 22:35 been like that for me too 22:36 abd that was at a punk rock joint 22:36 yeah prob good policy 22:36 tho working there lots of men offered me bartend only jobs at strip clubs heh yeaj right 22:37 at one place, a regular became my girlfriend, so we'd see each other "at work" every night 22:37 but that was OK mostly because we kept it professional while I was on the job 22:38 I got my first uni job because of bartending 22:38 but yeah, I eventually did leave the job because of her 22:38 one of my bosses was showing off his success to his rich flaptrap mates 22:38 I mean this is like in the 80's and he coul'd not believe I knew about IP, etc 22:39 and part of that seemed to be degrading my GF's life success and somehow unworthy 22:39 I mean, toughest woman I'veever known reduced to tears 22:39 love is like that, it does not always need to be so 22:39 so I went up to him and told ihim what he had done 22:39 and why that made him an arsehole 22:40 and he attacked me!' 22:40 His own bouncers had to pull him off, after I'd got him in a headlock 22:40 thats not good, how do you turn a wonderful thing into violence? 22:40 was like Will Smith, except I didn't throw a single punch or slap 22:41 as a woman I am lucky that anytime soneone thought about being violent with me, I'm bigger and stronger 22:41 I didn't do anything wrong, I just defended my woman 22:42 didn't use violence 22:42 just called it as it was 22:43 weird, probably sounds like you are still trying to figure it out 22:43 I could not go into that place (African/latino mostly) afterwards wihtout people buying me drinks before I'd even gotten to the bar 22:43 PetraKelly, nah I'm fine 22:43 it was a defining moment 22:43 yes, you need to get past things to go back, I know that 22:44 I'm past it 22:45 if someone was dragging you throught the mud, wouldn't you want someone to do something about it? 22:45 I mean because I am tall, and when I played sports competiively, I had the advantage of that like I'm bigger than 90% of guys 22:45 I'm bigger than 90% of guys 22:45 which is why I don't like to use violence 22:46 so yeah if a guy grabbed my ass in a blub, I had no problem of grabbing his throat and pushing him ino the wall and giving him a bad look 22:46 (90% excepting the obese I mean) 22:46 PetraKelly, great. But mosst women are smaller than you 22:46 yes like 98% 22:47 this woman was tough enough to survive for over 2 years with freesom fighters (Karien hilltribe people) in Myanmar 22:47 back when it was even worse than it is now 22:48 so she'd probably be able to knock your socks off 22:48 but even she needed some defending in that instance 22:49 when I was younger, on thing is guys would not pay attention to me, I mean no, maybe I'm not up for a guy who is like 5-5 but all thbe guys who are like 6-0 are with girls who are 5-23 22:50 and while I know I'm pretty generic looking, I never thought I wsa unattractive 22:50 what is "5-5" and "5-23"? 22:50 oh height 22:50 inches 22:51 well, women want a guy that is taller, or at least tall enough (you said it yourself) 22:51 similar for men 22:52 but not always true. 22:52 true love hopefully sees through all that, if you believe in that 22:54 I've dated all kinds of ladies, all shapes and sizes, but I've never found that to be the defining characteristic of our relationships 22:58 I never minded someone who is a bit shorter, but it get weird if they are like a lot shorter 22:58 top of my wife's head comes up to my pecs 22:59 I mean Iused to get a lot of stared because of my height when I was younger (not so much now, since girls are taller now) but like 1985.... 22:59 I weigh about 2.5 times she does 22:59 but I never think of her as being smaller 22:59 but then to have a real diff iver a guy I am with, imagine 23:00 yeah I can imagine 23:00 I used to say my exhusband is 2x as heavy as me, so to comp I earn 2x as him 23:00 people stare at anythin "different"... it is impolite, but you just have to ignore it 23:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Schme (Val Dwa Fem Law), 765 points, T:3093, killed by a kobold, while fainted from lack of food 23:01 actually a friennd came up with that 23:01 PetraKelly, that is muchly true for us as well 23:02 well then I hope you are on your knees with a ready tounge 23:02 that was naughty lol 23:02 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:958 23:03 Yes, I have responsibilities 23:03 good for you and her 23:03 husbandly ones 23:03 lol 23:03 I have friends who earn more than say 70% of the income and their husbads are so controlling and demanding 23:05 I'm not like that 23:06 but we do talk about money and finance and bills etc 23:06 there are lots of ways to be accomdating to another person, I just don't understand why some people just give in 23:06 I'm an economist and have done many years in accounting & finance work 23:07 no seriously 23:07 so I give advice 23:07 my father was an economist, he worked in the kenedy admin 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:56067 23:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:56073 23:08 Whenever I talk to a true economist, I feel like we can really speak openly 23:08 thats why I named Petra Kelly, they got to meet her 23:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:56078 23:08 I used to work in government 23:08 but not US govt 23:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:56081 23:09 my fathers last job was in the nixon admin, we have letters from nixon to him 23:10 that is very cool 23:11 I never got any letters from prime ministers 23:11 I did get to meet several of them though 23:11 of course, when I started to spend time in europe, like any place I went in germany he imediately sad we sure bombed the hell out of that place 23:12 thinking... Paul Keating, Robert (Bob) Hawke, Gough Whitlam (The Great Man), and Kevin Rudd and John Howard 23:12 like first place I lived there (pforzhiem) 23:12 so you know Australian 23:13 I served a beer to Gough once 23:13 I was like 20yo 23:13 I dont get your quyestion, I've been to oz and I remember when oz was still .oz and I have many close friends there from Monash 23:14 I was working at the "Labor Club", a venue with food, drink, poker machines, facilities 23:14 and on the second round trip, he handed the glass back to me 23:14 and said 23:14 "That was bloody great! Could I have another please!" 23:14 lol thats a good anecdote 23:15 he is a great man, The Great Man as some call him 23:15 <@riker> reading backscroll, dang petra that's a fun person to be named after 23:16 <@riker> i didn't think your name was literally petra kelly. neat 23:16 and he has a red nose, like a strawberry, after a few drinks! 23:16 as bartending, I met lief garret lol...knew the smithereens, bruce springsteen, et al ( new jersey) 23:16 yeah, it is neat :D 23:16 PetraKelly, ^^ 23:16 that also is very neat 23:17 we had nirvana just after they made it...they could have canceld of course, but they said, we are going to go to every shitty place we booked 23:18 had the replacements...they stole a lot of liquir 23:18 even though they all smelled of teen spirit? 23:18 lol, they would replace it! 23:19 sometime 23:19 tory amos...suzanne vega 23:19 I still regularly listen to Suzanne 23:19 tori never if I can help it 23:20 first time I ever thought about a gay relation 23:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:27352 23:20 tory amos I met twice, first bartending and then on my first sysadmn gig at an arts center 23:20 what is she like? 23:20 aloof 23:21 that was my guess 23:21 same arts center, had to fix a macbook problem for bruce springstien 23:21 but you were in service roles 23:22 so I don't want to judge harshly, but was the aloofness excessive? 23:22 it controlled the scolling lyrics to remind him of the words to the songs 23:23 not as much as say janet jackson 23:23 like royalty there 23:23 but a lot words than suzane vega...she seemed genuinely interested in talking 23:24 some are impossible to shut up 23:24 for better or worse... 23:24 she wanted to know about books you read, what things you hold special... 23:24 that is nice 23:25 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4770 points, T:2824, killed by a bolt of fire 23:25 people usually like you more if you show an interest in them 23:25 like I said before I started to get that I think I am in love feeling talking to her 23:26 only woman who ever brought that out in me 23:27 maybe you need to get out more? Only joking :D 23:28 really just joking 23:28 janet jackson is cool 23:28 just as I see cute guys, and woman, I think about how well they look (or not) if they did that or this to change their look, or whatever, it never gives me an emotion 23:28 but know, with professional performers like that, they know all the tricks 23:29 they are in seduction mode 100% of the time 23:30 she was just so genuine (vega)  and down to earth, you know like a real person 23:30 yeah that is why I love Suzanne's music 23:31 feels real 23:31 I know she's just singing whatever, seems true to her, like it or not 23:32 do you know Lone Justice/Maria McKee ? 23:32 no, but always open to new things 23:32 Maria McKee is the ONLY woman that I thought I wish I looked like her 23:33 do a search for Lone Justice Shelter 23:33 and tell me what you think :) 23:34 I will :D 23:35 you were supposed tonsay doing it now 23:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of polymorph", on T:28364 23:35 I get limited exposure to interesting music these days 23:35 I need something to listen to while I work on soldering transcoders 23:36 what I said about her looks I thought for sure would inspire you to do it NOW 23:36 anyway, for new music, I have to be proactive and find it myself 23:36 these days 23:36 NOW? it is already playing? 23:37 lol 23:37 oh you mean the arcade cabinet? 23:37 or the girl? 23:37 the girl was 30 years ago 23:37 and she was no girl 23:37 yes I'm talking about the girl on the Xenon pinball machine 23:38 she was older than me in fact, but a considerable margin 23:38 by 23:38 but like I said, we look past our flesh covers 23:39 Xenon pinball? I don't know about that 23:39 do you know Nancy Griffith? 23:39 know? 23:39 well music 23:40 or Mary Chapin Carpenter? 23:41 or highwat 101/paulette carlson 23:43 any way it's let, I need to grace the office with at least 4 hours tomorrow even though I'll work 12 at home nite 23:44 in fact, no I don't know Nancy Griffiths 23:44 -!- PetraKelly has quit [Quit: Client closed] 23:44 but listening makes me think wife would 23:44 thanks for the suggestions 23:45 I am always looking for good music 23:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 238 points, T:989, killed by a mace 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3 points, T:254, killed by a fox 23:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1508 23:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gandelf (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Magicbane by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:1799