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"blessed fixed eye of the aethiopica", got "a concave amulet named the Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:995 02:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] johnnyteapot (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:45276 02:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] johnnyteapot (And-Ana And Mal Neu) averted death, on T:45408 02:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:20429 03:02 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:07 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:21478 03:20 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Frost Brand by Thoth, on T:45677 03:29 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:43 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Orc Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:26922 04:00 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:03 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed Bleem's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2739 04:18 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 04:26 -!- rosepinkyfuzz has joined #hardfought 04:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:31 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.3] 04:49 Grasshopper: how's the game going? i see you've gotten to xl18 and 283hp 04:49 Grasshopper: are you a fan of going up to xl30? 04:53 Moult, I usually get there 04:54 by the end game, I'm often feeding !oGL to my power-pets 04:54 Thus, lv30 balrog etc 04:55 I just zapped my polypile 04:55 28 pages long 04:55 got bascially everythign I wanted with one zap 04:55 scrolls of charging 04:55 boots of speed and WW 04:55 cloak of prot 04:56 4 new spells, including remove curse and detect treasure 04:56 a shiny new +7 silver dagger 04:57 some +7 elven daggers 04:57 some nice +7 rustproof bits for my future pets 04:57 selection of katanas, longswords, tridents, elven broadsword 04:58 Oh, I also got Frost Brand as a gift when I sacced the flesh golem corpse 04:58 Grasshopper: what was in your polypile? just armor and weapons? or all junk potions and scrolls? 04:59 everything worth polypiling was in the pile 04:59 Grasshopper: to poly, what i've been doing is placing a single stack of scrolls or potions per square, 5 squares in a row 04:59 Grasshopper: you do one big massive thing in a pile? 04:59 oh I got a +1 hawaiian shirt too 05:00 Moult: meatballs 05:00 on top 05:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 56971 points, T:12212, killed by a gnome king zombie 05:01 you can add sauce and pasta if you like, but that is unnecessary (and just me being silly anyway) 05:02 I put 300 cursed meatballs on top, in stacks of 5 05:02 Grasshopper: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Polypiling#One_large_pile so you do this? 05:02 each stack individually named (by patient me) 05:02 Grasshopper: except iwith meatballs? 05:02 yeah as per the wiki, more or less 05:03 jesus, that's a lot of dedication to polypiling 05:03 amateurhour: i agree 05:03 Grasshopper: have you already entered gehennom, or is this just the loot from the castle and dungeons of doom? 05:03 Moult, yes that's right 05:04 and a little from Asmo's lair 05:05 I had 60-70 scrolls - that is my default basis for judging whether it is worth polypiling 05:05 I want to have at least 40 scroll for a serious effort 05:06 all the scroll in the pile need to be individually named too - in stacks on one 05:06 ok i don't think i have the patience for that 05:06 and the 300 blessed rustproof poisoned +7 darts 05:07 and i assume those are 60-70 junk scrolls, not useful scrolls you're going to use 05:07 yes 05:08 i've got about 25 junk scrolls 05:08 I didn't get any rings of increase damage unfortunately 05:08 but only 1 zap so far 05:09 you can polymorph stuff any time, but if you are going to do a proper mega polypile then you need a fair bit of stuff 05:10 any recommendations on what i should do now? i'm at 72k xp so close to, but not yet at xl14. finished the castle, entered but not attacked the VotD 05:10 go kill some eels 05:10 Grasshopper: where? they're all dead 05:10 they are worth heaps of xp 05:10 the quest home level has 3 05:11 Grasshopper: i'm playing elf ranger 05:11 sorry 05:11 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a saber entrusted to her by Odin, on T:30750 05:11 just altar camp and summon monsters to sacc for a while 05:11 you'll get to 80k in no time 05:12 and also get some cool drops from the monsters 05:12 Grasshopper: i've got some spare wands of create monster, drain them for this purpose? 05:12 yeah 05:12 but leave the last charge 05:12 Grasshopper: what's the last charge for? 05:12 and break the wand at (0:1) to get a mass of monsters 05:13 more value for money 05:13 you a) apply the wand 05:14 -!- rosepinkyfuzz has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] efw (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:3248 05:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law), 88123 points, T:25078, killed by a hill giant, while moving through the air 05:15 -!- rosepinkyfuzz has joined #hardfought 05:17 I have a pet nalfeshnee guarding the doors while I polypile 05:18 unf there is a troll - keeps reviving lol 05:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1734 05:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Orc Mal Cha) made his first wish - "2 blessed greased fixed scrolls of charging", got "2 greased scrolls labeled DAIYEN FOOELS", on T:29421 05:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", got "a greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:29425 05:22 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:32921 05:30 -!- Anerag_ is now known as Anerag 05:33 Grasshopper: nice I got two full healing potions from it 05:33 Grasshopper: I didn't sacc though, I had a cockatrice corpse so I just stoned them all 05:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law) was bestowed with Mjollnir by Tyr, on T:3630 05:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "a", on T:3639 05:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed ring of teleport control", got "a greased jade ring", on T:29700 05:41 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 695 points, T:1017, killed by the Goblin King 05:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Robber (level 14), on T:29749 05:42 Moult, you polypiled? 05:42 Grasshopper: no, create monster wands 05:42 Grasshopper: I haven't got any poly wands 05:43 ah sorry 05:43 and you got lv14 yay \o/ 05:43 or not yet? 05:44 Grasshopper: not yet. 75kxp 05:44 if you stone them then no saccs 05:44 but you might get a gain level pot from the statue 05:44 would be a waste though, when so close 05:47 Grasshopper: I pickaxed all the statues and got 2 full heal potions :) I drank one, which was blessed 05:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 silvered envenomed Helping Hand", on T:2340 05:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5976 05:54 on the second day of polymorph, my true love gave to me... a magic marker! 05:54 and some more potions and scrolls... 05:54 no silver daggers :( 05:55 no new spells 05:55 -!- rosepinkyfuzz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:55 and a killer bee in a pear tree 05:55 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Elf Mal Una), 74 points, T:59, killed by a kobold 05:55 -!- rosepinkyfuzz has joined #hardfought 06:01 " A - a blessed magic marker (1:92)" 06:02 "z - an uncursed fire horn (0:4)" 06:02 many unicorns died for these 06:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:921 06:07 polybreak 06:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was given Premium Heart, on T:4362 06:11 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Elf Mal Una), 1336 points, T:1717, killed by a bugbear 06:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Orc Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed marker", got "a magic marker", on T:30910 06:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:30946 06:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Orc Mal Cha) found the Master Key of Thievery carried by a monster, on T:30946 06:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Orc Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30979 06:21 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Elf Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1400 06:36 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 06:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", got "a greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:10639 06:39 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Elf Mal Una), 3878 points, T:4117, killed by a giant mosquito 06:42 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Elf Mal Una) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:6 06:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (arch-liches), on T:11142 06:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law), 31230 points, T:11963, killed by a shocking sphere's explosion 06:52 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Elf Mal Una), 698 points, T:1614, killed by a hobbit 06:54 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Orc Mal Una) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class x), on T:289 06:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1076 06:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law), 916 points, T:1706, killed by a gnome 07:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law), 328 points, T:927, killed by a giant bat 07:02 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Orc Mal Una), 713 points, T:1439, killed by a baby owlbear 07:09 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Orc Mal Una), 783 points, T:1489, killed by a goblin, while frozen by a monster's gaze 07:09 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 07:12 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Orc Mal Una), 85 points, T:160, killed by a fox 07:13 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Orc Mal Una), 8 points, T:51, killed by a sewer rat 07:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1847 07:14 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Orc Mal Una) performed his first genocide (grid bugs), on T:236 07:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 475 points, T:2035, killed by a sewer rat 07:23 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Orc Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1200 07:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:3308 07:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3468 07:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Nob Vam Fem Cha), 103 points, T:39, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:37 You glimpse a four-leaf clover at your feet. <-- i'm pretty sure i maxed out my luck already when i was trying to get crowned, and i held a blessed luckstone ever since, so why am i getting these messages? 07:39 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.5-dev] 07:42 also, if i'm just waiting for monsters to sac until i get xl14, should i be praying and trying to get favours or is there something more beneficial i can do? i'm already crowned 07:44 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 07:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Val Hum Fem Law), 15370 points, T:7490, killed by a wolf 07:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:3064 07:47 Moult, either your luck was not maxed out yet (eg you may have drawn the wrong conclusion when you sacced something of low value) or you did something that lowered your luck (the wiki lists the cases) 07:49 Praying after getting crowned: completely up to you. I usually don't because the prayer timeout is very long when you're crowned. 07:49 [hdf-us] [slshm] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 578 points, T:627, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:49 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 07:50 [hdf-us] [nh4] dlaf (post163) (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 07:54 mobileuser: ah ok, i must've messed up somehow in my luck calc 07:55 mobileuser: i've been praying since i have time to kill and need to get up to XL14 anyway, i have a =oSD worn, and i've noticed i can slowly collect loot, and so far a bonus 15hp :) 07:56 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Orc Mal Una), 5398 points, T:4212, killed by a giant cockroach 07:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering a gnome noble corpse on an altar of The Lady, on T:3550 07:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) had a scimitar entrusted to him by The Lady, on T:3550 07:57 after you are crowned, you usually don't need prayer, in my experience 07:58 nabru: i plan to enter gehennom after the quest, so these prayers arej ust for favours 07:59 ah, I see 08:00 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 08:02 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:03 a ring of polymorph, i've never used one of these, if i had two rings, ring of poly control and ring of polymorph, could i turn into something fun and eat rings of protection or something? 08:03 yes 08:03 Moult: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Eating_jewelry 08:05 nice! if i am lucky enough to get some interesting loot this game i might try it out 08:07 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Ran Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Scout (level 14), on T:59380 08:07 \o/ 08:08 and in the process i gained 20hp and a few extra healing potions :) 08:12 it seems to me that altar camping with a =oSD is a valid (but maybe boring?) strategy to pump up your hp if you haven't found a ton of healing potions or nurses 08:13 Moult a warning about selfpoly: there is a 20% chance that you poly into your own race. Stats are rerolled and you may lose all those extra HP. 08:14 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 08:14 not to mention a level or two 08:14 mobileuser: but i have a CoMR, which protects me from poly traps, so i'm safe? 08:16 that's protection from accidental polymorph. you were talking about self-poly which is intentional 08:18 hothraxxa: right, but i'm reading here that the 20% chance is for uncontrolled poly, but if i am also wearing a ring of poly control, i don't have that risk, right? 08:18 no, it's also for controlled poly 08:18 no that was mobileuser's point. there's always that risk 08:19 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Polymorph_control 08:19 it's happened to me and it's really annoying 08:19 "There is a 20% chance that this will happen in spite of polymorph control," 08:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Orc Mal Cha) used a helm to turn lawful, on T:33117 08:19 ah ok. in that case i don't think i'll do it :) 08:19 thanks for the tip! 08:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 08:23 -!- rosaism has joined #hardfought 08:24 -!- Semilg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:24 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 08:25 -!- rosaism has quit [Quit: rosaism] 08:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Automobile (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4028 08:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Automobile (Val Hum Fem Law) found Ogresmasher carried by a monster, on T:4121 08:37 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 08:48 yay poison instadeath change 08:48 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/d0b11fd2c05dae5ebc7a3ff6425257e6ed372894 08:50 amateurhour: that's a great change! Does it work both ways? So my poisoned weapons no longer have an instakill chance? 08:51 doesn't look like it 08:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:292 08:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Burglar (level 18), on T:34120 08:58 helllllll yeah 08:58 finally 08:58 I was gonna clown on 37 the other day about this when poison instakill was being discussed 08:59 oh on the 11th 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1497 points, T:868, killed by a gnome 09:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] omnisnow (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1993 09:03 -!- lorimer has joined #hardfought 09:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v lorimer] by ChanServ 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Orc Mal Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:34168 09:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 481 points, T:424, killed by a gnome 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3432 09:16 I mean, poison instakill versus monsters *ought* to be removed, for symmetry. 09:16 nope 09:17 imagine this in a variant with player vs mplayer combat, throwing poison darts at each other, and the mplayer just up and dies 09:17 symmetry doesnt make sense in a game like nethack 09:17 honestly, symmetry doesnt make sense outside of pvp games 09:18 and yet ppl act like it makes sense just because it is symmetric. stop signs are the same way. they are very symmetric and very desirable 09:20 would be cool if we could also covetous warp to the stairs tho :^) 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Neu) consumed animal products (cream pie) for the first time, on T:4899 09:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5115 09:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 67000 points, T:10758, killed by a gnome zombie, while mesmerized by a monster 09:28 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 09:36 <@nabru> !coffee 09:36 * Beholder_ tosses @nabru a tumbler of white rum, acquired by the /dev/null/oracle at 91 degrees Celsius. 09:38 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Automobile (Val Hum Fem Law), 8175 points, T:7500, petrified by tasting cockatrice meat 09:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", got "an orange spellbook", on T:7168 09:43 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:49 <@nabru> !lastgame automobile 09:49 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Automobile/nethack/dumplog/1660564785.nh.html 09:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 silvered envenomed Helping Hand", on T:2312 09:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2457 09:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] omnisnow (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2630 points, T:3559, killed by a carnivorous ape 10:11 [hdf-us] [nh343] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:15933 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 5 points, T:37, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:13 [hdf-us] [ace] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:27, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:14 3.4.3 on hdf doesn't have the astral call exploit usable, right? 10:14 [hdf-us] [nh4] ldfa (post163) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 9795 points, T:72, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:14 it is nao based 10:14 [hdf-us] [fh] fdl\ (post163) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:15, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:14 so no 10:14 [hdf-us] [dyn] dfsl (post163) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:14 didn't think so 10:14 I think :P 10:14 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:15 what do you need an astral call compatible variant for? 10:16 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 210 points, T:254, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:16 [hdf-us] [slshm] post163 (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:8882 10:17 [hdf-us] [gh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 167 points, T:79, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:17 I don't, I was just editing the wiki page about it 10:17 [hdf-us] [ndnh] post163 (Nob Inc Fem Law), 59 points, T:74, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:18 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:42, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 165 points, T:221, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:20 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 0 points, T:11, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:20 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Nbn Law), 8 points, T:87, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:9101 10:22 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 69 points, T:207, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 189 points, T:196, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Fem Neu) murdered Joliette, her faithful housecat, on T:16877 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:17608 10:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 510 points, T:1663, killed by a giant bat 10:53 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", got "a greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:18132 10:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1268 points, T:1581, killed by a dwarf 10:58 YASI: if your Intelligence is high enough, you can convince mastodons/titanotheres/other real but extinct species that they are, in fact, extinct, and they poof out of existence 10:58 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 10:58 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 11:00 i like it 11:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:616 11:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu), 1517 points, T:922, killed by a piranha 11:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu), 2779 points, T:593, killed by a gnome lady, while praying 11:09 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] omnisnow (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 831 points, T:1768, killed by Yeenoghu 11:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed pick-axe", got "a pick-axe", on T:60607 11:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:1969 11:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Spelunker (level 18), on T:61083 11:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of slow digestion", got "a ring of slow digestion", on T:61341 11:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", got "a greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:1919 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:13794 11:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Magicbane by Thoth, on T:2767 11:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] rustyspoon (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed laura's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:3498 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Kni Hum Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:1879 11:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1925 11:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2178 11:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) genocided class L, on T:61910 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed stethoscope", got "a stethoscope", on T:61964 11:30 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 11:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1083 points, T:2271, killed by a fire ant 11:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Merlek's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3097 11:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Ana Elf Fem Cha), 30826 points, T:6710, killed by a discharging wand 11:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Student of Waters (level 14), on T:14117 11:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed Merlek's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2764 11:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] omnisnow (Cav Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2897 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 427852 points, T:36197, quit 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Kni Hum Fem Law) polymorphed her first item, on T:3238 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of power", got "a pair of fencing gloves", on T:14223 11:42 <@hackemslashem> ! lastgame pinball 11:42 @hackemslashem: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/pinball/nethack/dumplog/1589003349.nh.html | [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/pinball/nethack/dumplog/1657969701.nh.html 11:42 <@post163> !booze 11:42 * Beholder_ zaps @post163 a schooner of grappa, replicated by FCCBot at 118 degrees Fahrenheit. 11:42 <@post163> !PoM 11:42 @post163: The moon is waning gibbous; new moon in 11 days. 11:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) was given Cleaver, on T:8350 11:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3935 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3860 11:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] omnisnow (Cav Hum Mal Law), 3583 points, T:3443, killed by an orc-captain 11:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu), 153152 points, T:9253, killed by a Mordor orc, while frozen by a potion 11:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:7883 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2264 points, T:8073, quit 12:00 Grappa? 12:00 -!- theRaisse has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:00 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 12:00 arahael: are you asking what grappa is? 12:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5435 12:01 or just surprised it would be served in a schooner 12:02 118? 12:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Cav Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2461 12:06 if I have a very finite amount of scrolls of enchant weapon does it matter if I enchant my off-hand or the primary weapon? 12:06 <@Shadow_Rider> what do people think about reverting the price identification page tables? 12:06 (what I am thinking is if I should save scrolls for a proper primary weapon rather than enchant my offhand) 12:07 <@Shadow_Rider> im not sure ive seen a single person showing support for the current version other than bruceleroy and they seem to have given up on it 12:07 <@Shadow_Rider> while many have expressed that they prefer the old tables 12:09 <@Shadow_Rider> cbus its kinda situational ig 12:09 I think the answer is go ahead 12:09 you will get a marker by castle any way 12:09 <@Shadow_Rider> its not going to make a huge difference unless you plan to ditch the offhand 12:10 yaeh which I am not 12:10 (samurai and I am thinking of the katana) 12:12 delete the tables and make ppl memorise them 12:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Yeenoghu, on T:63065 12:12 <@post163> !setmintc 100 12:12 @post163: [hdf-au][hdf-us][hdf-eu] Min reported turncount for @post163 set to 100 12:12 this is a compromise that makes everyone equally unhappy 12:12 therefore should be what is done 12:12 <@Shadow_Rider> lol 12:13 wait what? gonna delete the price id? :P 12:13 <@Shadow_Rider> i only really reference it for the high charisma roles 12:14 <@Shadow_Rider> cbus have you checked out the new price id page recently? 12:14 nope 12:14 I use the nethack companion app for id 12:14 <@Shadow_Rider> good idea 12:14 I store the information in my BRAIN where none of u can edit it 12:14 no edit wars in my mind 12:15 my tin foil hat does not work that good 12:15 so ppl can access my brain 12:15 the Cylons will get you 12:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Mjollnir by The Lady, on T:21409 12:15 <@Shadow_Rider> inb4 paxed revamps the whole system 12:15 ever read Snow Crash? 12:15 tbh that'd be pretty hype I love it when vanilla changes stuff 12:15 The idea that you can hack and crash a human brain 12:15 I started on it but never finished it 12:15 should get back into it 12:16 <@Shadow_Rider> nethack has never been easier to streak 12:16 <@Shadow_Rider> some1 take the record 12:16 Is a classic 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] CAVEDATA (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 239 points, T:1355, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 12:16 u 12:16 never been easier? 12:16 <@Shadow_Rider> poison instakill removed 12:16 Neal Stephenson 12:16 oh yeah 12:16 I have read cryptonomicon though 12:16 Me too 12:16 but was many years ago 12:16 I really enjoyed it 12:16 yeah me too 12:17 and the Baroque series 12:17 it wont be on hardfought till K2 is back from his jollies prolly 12:17 Half-cocked Jack Shaftoe 12:17 would love to see someone try to stream a streak record 12:17 Ride could totally do it 12:18 <@Shadow_Rider> no 12:18 shadowrider, you can do it! 12:18 <@Shadow_Rider> well i could stream but not get very far 12:19 nah if you tried you could do the streak for sure 12:21 <@Shadow_Rider> meh if I have time during this semester I’ll do an attempt 12:21 <@Shadow_Rider> one attempt 12:22 I will watch it with lose yourself by eminem playing on loop the whole time 12:23 please ping me :) 12:23 would love to watch 12:23 something that'd be kind of cool is a 'variant streak' 12:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:7600 12:24 cycling variants? 12:24 <@Shadow_Rider> @malor 12:24 <@Shadow_Rider> oh that would be cool 12:24 Z-score 12:25 I mean one person doing an asc in each variant without splatting 12:26 guessing you'd have more fun with that than 62 vanilla ascs in a row 12:26 https://nethackscoreboard.org/zscore.all.html 12:26 already been done 12:26 uh I know about zscore 12:27 I'm saying it'd be cool watching someone do a streak across variants, not a streak in a variant 12:27 not the same I know 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 12 points, T:200, killed by a sewer rat 12:28 <@hackemslashem> Nudist streak go! 12:28 streak across variants would be very random in nature and comparability 12:28 <@Shadow_Rider> That would be more interesting tho 12:28 fer shure 12:28 <@Shadow_Rider> I’d rather try to stream that than a vanilla one 12:28 we need to go further than Z-score. we need [-score 12:29 well presumably you'd be able to pick the order you do your variants, till you did one of each, then continue on and redo, idk 12:29 yeah but, would you streak across all roles too 12:29 <@Shadow_Rider> ye well the problem is I’d probably do evil first 12:29 <@Shadow_Rider> which would be painful and long 12:29 trying to win at evil is challenge already 12:31 I noticed that hothraxxa comes second overall in Z-score across "All Variants" 12:32 just a little behind luxidream 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 77 points, T:55, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 12:32 which I am quite impressed about 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 9 points, T:64, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 12:33 https://nethackscoreboard.org/zscore.all.html 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:3 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4052 12:33 (7.41%), gnoll:1 (100.00%) 12:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 105 points, T:363, killed by a system shock 12:34 hmmmm 12:34 lol 12:34 can everyone else see that too? 12:34 <@hackemslashem> What is that gnoll thing? 12:34 i sent a private message to beholder 12:34 asking for hothraxxa's ascension record 12:35 <@malor> You mean "win streak across all types of games played"? I have considered that. That issue is a similar issue to streaking "Four" and that is that you can "game the system" by delaying finishing games that you would otherwise lose in order to keep the overall streak alive. 12:35 and it gave me half of it in the message and half of it in the channel, apparently 12:35 !asc hothraxxa 12:35 (7.41%), gnoll:1 (100.00%) 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 129 points, T:280, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 12:35 qt: [hdf-eu] hothraxxa has not ascended in 1 games. | [hdf-us] hothraxxa has ascended 117 times in 1164 games (10.05%): nh343:5 (18.52%), nh363:2 (22.22%), nh370:1 (14.29%), nh4:14 (46.67%), gh:14 (5.88%), dnh:1 (16.67%), un:14 (11.67%), xnh:17 (19.54%), spl:2 (2.90%), dyn:9 (7.69%), fh:4 (7.69%), sp:1 (4.35%), 4k:14 (19.72%), evil:16 (6.35%), ace:2 12:35 lol now it's out of order 12:36 <@Shadow_Rider> lol 12:36 not quite that malor though that could still be a problem in tracking it I guess 12:36 <@Shadow_Rider> I think the idea would be similar to the way nh4 variants track 12:36 <@Shadow_Rider> the first game started after a complete one is the only one that counts 12:36 !who 12:36 qt: [hdf-eu] ichbinmiah [nh370] Merlek [nh370] | [hdf-au] Arahael [evil] | [hdf-us] haldisse [nh370] quervo1 [nh370] pinball [nh370] CAVEDATA [nh370] rancat [nh370] Alasnuyo [dnh] whatever [xnh] post163 [spl] zor [slth] dx [slth] hothraxxa [ace] 12:36 in my head it'd be: play through each variant in a streak, have to beat all variants to redo a variant 12:36 <@malor> explain what you were meaning then amateurhour. I'm always for adding more functionality 🙂 12:36 any splat ends the streak 12:37 yeah parking games is not ok 12:37 wasn't imagining it in a scoreboard context, was just thinking for a stream 12:37 not sure what we are gonna say about what roles to play 12:37 but repeating a role should not be allowed (at least not in the same variant) 12:37 oh really cbus? what about https://www.parking-game.com/ 12:37 amateurhour: Evil and slash'em and all included? :) 12:37 <@malor> using that EXACT logic would make cross-variant streaks ONLY valid if you start and stop each game without playing anything of another game. That would make it so YES it couldn't be gamed but it would also make it so a legit streak seemed like it was broken when it wasn't by starting multiple games before completing one. 12:37 :D 12:37 "Parking Infinity is an NFT-based game that allows everyone to own the coolest and one-of-its-kind automobile in the metaverse." 12:37 sounds awesome 12:38 but how can EVERYONE own the coolest car? 12:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Cav Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4736 12:38 surely there's only one coolest car 12:38 maybe that's the magic of NFTs 12:38 <@Shadow_Rider> hah not wrong 12:38 <@Shadow_Rider> it would seem kinda funny 12:38 <@malor> which is what bugs me about "Four" streaks in general. A legit streak might show as broken due to playing 2 games at once. 12:39 qt: The coolest of it's kind. :) 12:39 <@malor> I'm sort of for giving players the benefit of the doubt, but I think in terms of the efficacy of how the scoreboard was designed that it should be as strict as possible. 12:40 I was just thinking of it as a fun stream challenge rather than a tracked scoreboard thing (but that would be pretty cool if it were possible) 12:40 <@Shadow_Rider> ^ 12:40 starting a game in another variant should not count towards the streak if you have a game going but maybe not break the straek 12:40 arahael: and since they are all "one-of-its-kind automobiles" they are all the coolest by definition, ingenious 12:40 but also they are all the lamest 12:41 qt: A bit like saying your wife is the most beautiful woman in all the world. 12:41 <@Shadow_Rider> There are more urgent things that aoei could be adding to the scoreboard first 12:41 <@🌙BRUXA> any idea how to use command M-i? 12:41 maybe they should say "Parking Infinity is an NFT-based game that allows everyone to own the lamest and one-of-its-kind beater in the metaverse." 12:41 <@malor> since it doesn't already exist, I see no reason to allow the easy-definition version to exist. So what if someone games it a little. Since it is a "new category" that category will just have the caveat that slight abuse may be possible. 12:41 BRUXA: turn on altmeta and type i 12:41 <@🌙BRUXA> any idea where i do that? 12:41 in your .nethackrc 12:41 what game are you playing? 12:42 <@🌙BRUXA> so half of commands just arent available unless thats turned on? 12:42 NetHack or a variant? 12:42 <@Shadow_Rider> cbus: that is how nh4 does it 12:42 <@🌙BRUXA> nethack 12:42 3.7? 12:42 <@malor> and I doubt that more than 2 total technical abuse instances will happen per year, so not worth worrying about 🙂 12:42 <@🌙BRUXA> 3.7 12:42 all commands are available without meta though 12:42 you just need to use the # 12:42 most commands are also accessible by typing in a "long version" with # 12:42 <🌙BRUXA> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1008777768017870948/IMG_5004.jpg 12:42 M-i is the same as typing #invoke 12:42 <@🌙BRUXA> ohh 12:43 <@🌙BRUXA> so i just type it haha ok my bad brand new 12:43 but if you want to use M-i you can press 'm' then 'O' to open the full options menu, then select altmeta and press enter to toggle it 12:43 and then you can type M-whatever with alt 12:43 you could just add it to your nethack config and have alt working 12:43 or yeah add it to your config file 12:43 <@malor> @Shadow_Rider @amateurhour So should it track ALL ASCENSIONS or only 1 point per unique type of variant. So the max would be 12 or whatever it is? And I guess at 12 you could restart. Or should: nh, nh, evil, 4, splice, 4 count as 6 or count as 4 12:44 <@🌙BRUXA> weird game just crashed from server error 12:44 hmmm! 12:44 <@Shadow_Rider> from what ahour was saying that would count as 4 12:44 <@Shadow_Rider> you should go through all of them before repeating a variant 12:44 BRUXA: are you sleepnasty? 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1457 points, T:1663, killed by a crossbow bolt 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was bestowed with Magicbane by Anhur, on T:5741 12:45 <@malor> Ok. Yeah no one is going to abuse that too much. :). You still have to hit grunt and evil 🙂 12:45 <@Shadow_Rider> :P 12:46 <@🌙BRUXA> no im CAVEDATA 12:46 <@Shadow_Rider> i wonder what the longest current variant streak would be under those conditions 12:46 <@Shadow_Rider> bet its mobi or tariru 12:46 <@Shadow_Rider> wait im just stupid 12:46 <@Shadow_Rider> its tariru 12:47 how long streak? 12:47 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:47 now that we made up a category it is time for someone to start chasing the record! :P 12:47 iirc Tariru did all variants in junethack in a streak one year? or am I remembering wrong 12:47 <@Shadow_Rider> yep thats right 12:47 <@Shadow_Rider> so itd be at least 13 12:47 <@malor> Yeah, probably Tariru. 12:47 hard to remember what I, Tariru, have done that far back 12:47 <@Shadow_Rider> or not if we count slex :P 12:48 <@malor> I'll code it today and tell you. 12:48 I think we'd have to for sanity reasons drop slex from this idea 12:48 :P 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6049 12:49 <@Shadow_Rider> hdf hosted ones 12:49 do we count old nethack too? 12:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 2315 points, T:5128, killed by a wolf 12:49 PepeLaugh I hope this includes 1.3d 12:49 but imo it probably shouldn't 12:49 <@malor> SLEX isn't on the scoreboard so its moot either way. 12:50 <@🌙BRUXA> so do most people play through putty? 12:50 <@Shadow_Rider> think so 12:50 I suspect most windows users do 12:50 gnome terminal + ssh here 12:50 <@Shadow_Rider> scoreboard variants only 12:50 I think most people on windows do, though on windows 10 I think it comes with ssh now and windows terminal is meant to be pretty decent 12:50 windows terminal is pretty evil 12:50 <@🌙BRUXA> no one plying offline version i guess 12:50 Windows's ssh is pretty decent, but I've not tried it for nethack. 12:51 <@malor> I will count all the variants that exist on the scoreboard. NOTE: That is CURRENT EXIST so no one can get more than ONE TIMES VARIANTS THAT EXIST until recently since they will fail to be able to move to SECOND PASS due to the rule of "doing all variants". I'm ok with that, but it might slightly bone Tariru. But otherwise, in the Old-old-days people could just play NH (the only variant) and that would count 🙂 12:51 I dont think many ppl here play locally since this is a channel for the hardfought server though :) 12:51 I think there are plenty of people playing offline, but if you survey people that are online talking about nethack you're likely to find most of them online :P 12:51 but I do have a locally compiled version to mess around with wizard mode 12:51 <@🌙BRUXA> whats wizard mode? 12:52 a debug mode pretty much 12:52 where you can do "whatever" 12:52 <@🌙BRUXA> ah right 12:52 <@Shadow_Rider> heh this is an issue when new variants get added 12:52 wishes at will, teleport, and everything 12:52 spawn monsters 12:52 You can even wish up a wand of wishing wiht 99 charges,I think? 12:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu), 4636 points, T:1411, killed by Sir Garland 12:52 <@🌙BRUXA> anyone ok with vc? 12:52 it asks you if you want to die when you die :D 12:52 and acehack was unplayable until very recently (but noone has done all variants besides Ride anyway) 12:52 but I only use it to test "weird things" I don't actually play in it 12:53 <@🌙BRUXA> ah like caves of qud debug got ya 12:53 <@malor> I know it is. But the odds of it boning someone are really tiny anyway. I doubt anyone has a current "1-streak" anyway, so it is unlikely to hurt anyone. If it does turn out to stop a second-pass maybe we grandfather that in, but that ONE example (mobileuser) is all we will have to worry about 🙂 12:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:5544 12:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:20 12:54 <@Shadow_Rider> yeah its not a huge factor rn 12:54 the online servers also has wizard mode disabled 12:54 for obvious reasons :) 12:54 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Wizard_mode 12:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:792 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) found Demonbane in a shop, on T:6121 12:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:914 12:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu), 6957 points, T:1225, killed by a yeti 12:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:355 12:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "+2 Blessed fixed gray dragon scales", on T:22483 12:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:657 12:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:64779 12:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) was given Atlantean Royal Sword, on T:814 13:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "asdfasdf", on T:3211 13:00 good night 13:00 <@malor> @Shadow_Rider Clarification/summary before I do this: 1. ANY DEATH/LOSS stops the overall streak even if that is a variant that you already ascended during this streak. 2. You must complete all of the current existing variants (impossible in the old days) before you can count a variant 2 times. 3. Time stamps on when the game started will be ignored, so it is possible to do some minor gaming of the streak system. 13:02 so what if you accidently start a variant? 13:02 that "doesn't count" 13:03 like 3.7, evil, 3.7 (by misstake) 13:03 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Pal Dwa Mal Law), 13989 points, T:6239, killed by a giant mimic 13:03 <@malor> as long as you don't LOSE a game your streak continues. ANY LOSS ON ANY VARIANT ends the streak. 13:04 <@Shadow_Rider> wouldn't this mean you can just stop playing a game if it looks like you are going to lose? 13:04 and quit or escape counts as loss right 13:04 I think you should just discount that game 13:04 <@malor> so you can play more than one game or have some in progress. Quitting or escapping or scumming -> all are losses 13:04 no matter if it is a win or loss 13:04 <@Shadow_Rider> i think its fine for now tho 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Kni Hum Fem Law), 17444 points, T:6692, killed by a leocrotta 13:04 <@Shadow_Rider> btw i cant wait for you to finish your massive scoreboard pr 13:05 <@Shadow_Rider> ive started using it over the regular scoreboard sometimes :) 13:05 <@malor> Yes you can. But that locks you out of the variant. As I said there is room for a little minor gaming, but otherwise you would have to distinctly start each variant and play through it without switching between them. I think most people would prefer to be able to switch if they want and not worry about a small amount of "gaming the system". 13:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:5, killed by a fox 13:06 <@Shadow_Rider> ye id agree 13:06 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:07 <@malor> so are my clarifications good? If so I'll program it after I finish this "real work" I have to do. 13:07 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Fir Dop Fem Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:15575 13:07 <@Shadow_Rider> "real work" 13:07 <@Shadow_Rider> yep seems good to me 13:07 <@malor> ok. I'll ping the channel in a bit. 13:08 :D 13:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] ichbinmiah (Hea Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:21006 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:23430 13:16 It reads: "Yendorian Express - Gold Card" "3603 15738551 0050". 13:16 dammit 13:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3587 13:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 4079 points, T:7227, killed by a giant beetle, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 13:25 BRUXA: are you the person who posted on reddit asking if someone would talk you through some NetHack games on a call? 13:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) was given Soulmirror, on T:6081 13:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, killed by kicking a wall 13:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 1335 points, T:1893, quit 13:29 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Fem Neu), 5 points, T:14, slipped while mounting a saddled baby white dragon 13:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 5 points, T:78, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7820 13:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (humans), on T:1 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:64829 13:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Mad Inc Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:4190 13:34 Shadow_Rider: the guy who was having trouble with training polearms on rgrn replied, turns out he was just bumping monsters instead of applying the polearm. Mystery solved :) 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:65051 13:35 <@🌙BRUXA> so if i have the latest version of nh from website running on windows how do enable wizard mode? 13:35 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Wizard_mode#Windows 13:36 <@Shadow_Rider> nice qt 13:36 BRUXA if your goal is to use it for practice, "explore mode" is probably a better choice. it's designed for learning, so it has some similar things like choosing not to die, but not some of the debug features that totally break the game 13:36 <@Shadow_Rider> polearms really could use some attention 13:36 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Explore_mode 13:36 <@Shadow_Rider> by the devs that is 13:36 you can enter explore mode at any time by typing #exploremode 13:36 oh didnt know about that 13:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 13:37 i think if you do it that way you don't get the wand of wishing though 13:38 if you start the game in explore mode you start with a wand of wishing that you can use to wish for a few items 13:38 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Fir Dop Fem Neu) killed the Beholder, on T:18844 13:38 i don't think that's given to you if you start normally then choose to enter explore mode later 13:39 <@🌙BRUXA> oh so how do you beigin in explore? 13:39 wiki mentions "It can be invoked in a new or existing game by starting NetHack with the -X option" 13:40 You can edit your options file to add OPTIONS=playmode:explore 13:40 or yeah invoke it with -X, not sure how to do that in Windows 13:40 oh, explore mode works online too? 13:40 if you do it through config 13:40 it can be disabled in sysconf 13:40 so it depends whether K2 left it enabled or not 13:41 yeah looks like K2 turned it off 13:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:14530 13:43 BRUXA: I think the instructions for creating a debug mode shortcut at https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Wizard_mode#Windows should work, except instead of adding '-D -u wizard' as the flags you use '-X' 13:43 <@🌙BRUXA> so in local 3.6 on windows any idea how to start with it 13:43 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Fir Dop Fem Neu) killed the Dragon Lord, on T:19449 13:45 Try following those instructions but replace "-D -u wizard" with "-X" and see if it works 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:65239 13:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:65240 13:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Tou Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Magicbane by The Lady, on T:4958 13:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of teleport control", got "a tiger eye ring", on T:65357 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:65374 13:53 [hdf-us] [slshm] simpleliquid (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3941 points, T:2665, killed by a baby shimmering dragon 13:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Mad Inc Mal Cha), 46348 points, T:6159, killed by an invisible quinon 14:00 -!- remirol has joined #hardfought 14:00 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v remirol] by ChanServ 14:00 -!- lorimer has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by remirol))] 14:00 -!- remirol is now known as lorimer 14:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found Sunsword on the floor, on T:16360 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:65913 14:02 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1588 points, T:2385, killed by an orcish arrow 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Seignieur (level 26), on T:55624 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6888 14:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:66763 14:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5th time), on T:66947 14:20 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (master mind flayers), on T:17839 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:67048 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "2 potions of unholy water", got "2 potions of water", on T:67048 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of taming", got "a scroll labeled HAPAX LEGOMENON", on T:67050 14:23 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 14:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Enchanter (level 14), on T:18354 14:26 wow the price ID page is weird now 14:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Sorcerer (level 18), on T:18473 14:27 lol 14:28 i guess it's better now if you use the page just to get a base price, but if you want to get a list of potential items it now requires you to cross-reference two different tables 14:28 so whether it's better depends on how you use the page I suppose 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:11788 14:28 there's some discussion on the talk page 14:28 I thought you already knew that and were just jokingly pretended you didn't know there were controversial changes made 14:29 no, I didn't know about it 14:29 <@Shadow_Rider> I think the tables should be reverted 14:29 edit wars are funny to me 14:29 <@Shadow_Rider> I don’t think anyone has said they like the new version 14:30 amateurhour, write a bot that changes stuff back ;P 14:30 *evil bofh* 14:30 muahaha! 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:67078 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Plane of Earth, on T:67078 14:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] kimosabe (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:31599 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Plane of Air, on T:67140 14:34 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] kimosabe (Sam Hum Mal Law) averted death (killed by a vampire), on T:31674 14:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] kimosabe (Sam Hum Mal Law), 296307 points, T:31680, killed by a vampire, while being terrified of a ghost 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Traveler (level 14), on T:26137 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Plane of Fire, on T:67245 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2542 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Tou Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Werebane by The Lady, on T:7517 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Plane of Water, on T:67272 14:39 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 16782 points, T:7746, killed by an ettin zombie, while moving through the air 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed scroll of genocide", got "a scroll of genocide", on T:67292 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) genocided class ;, on T:67292 14:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:9574 14:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 seven league boots", on T:9575 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:67381 14:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed dragonhide bag of holding", on T:20648 14:46 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:47 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:67394 14:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 1537 points, T:3769, killed by a crossbow bolt 14:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 14:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:67412 14:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found the Eye of the Aethiopica on the floor, on T:20124 14:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:20200 14:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20201 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Pestilence (2nd time), on T:67487 14:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] kimosabe (Tou Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3999 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Death, on T:67495 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Death (2nd time), on T:67504 14:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] kimosabe (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2580 points, T:4067, killed by a dingo 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Death (3rd time), on T:67513 15:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) killed Thoth Amon, on T:10075 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:67551 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 2566816 points, T:67562, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/w/wmahan/nethack/dumplog/1660057382.nh.html 15:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:16000 15:09 -!- cebolla has joined #hardfought 15:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] kimosabe (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1280 15:13 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 15:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:21916 15:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:11823 15:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 3110 points, T:6190, killed by a soldier ant 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 542 points, T:1811, killed by a giant ant 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:35548 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Automobile (Val Hum Fem Law), 1956 points, T:2823, killed by a gold golem 15:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 386 points, T:1212, killed by a homunculus 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 56 points, T:315, killed by a goblin 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 211 points, T:1687, killed by a hobbit 15:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Arahael's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:24772 15:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Hum Mal Neu) destroyed tinklebear's ghost, the former Brute, on T:24801 15:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +3 orange dragon scale mail", on T:12749 15:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] omnisnow (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1882 15:47 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 15:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 15:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 560 points, T:1981, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 15:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:13269 16:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased marauder's map", on T:13472 16:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10434 16:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of levitation", got "an engagement ring", on T:36505 16:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1047 points, T:2426, quit 16:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Gilette (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2040 points, T:2295, killed by a wand 16:06 is BRUXA still here on discord? 16:06 can some discord person see? 16:06 I can't type the name because it has a moon in it 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:37002 16:08 <@🌙BRUXA> hi 16:08 Hello @🌙BRUXA, Welcome to #hardfought 16:08 <@🌙BRUXA> i tried -X 16:08 <@🌙BRUXA> no luck 16:08 <@🌙BRUXA> as well as first composition 16:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] omnisnow (Mon Hum Mal Law), 2720 points, T:2851, killed by a bolt of lightning 16:10 I saw your reddit post -- I don't have a lot of experience with Windows but another way to do it is use your options file (according to the wiki it should be in %USERPROFILE%\NetHack\.nethackrc) 16:10 that is just a plain text file named '.nethackrc' (no .txt extension), open it in a text editor and add the line OPTIONS=playmode:explore" 16:10 then save it and try running NetHack again 16:11 qt: given that the one person arguing for the new price id has thrown a fit about the nethackwiki community not being open to "improvements", it's ripe for someone to just change it back the way it was :) 16:11 they basically said "im out, going back to lurking" 16:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame4 (Bar Vam Fem Neu), 879769 points, T:14553, killed by a fractured Amm Kamerel, while praying 16:12 that is kind of sad, they probably worked hard on it and felt bad that nobody liked it :( 16:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:5, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:13 i have some sympathy for them, though if they really threw a fit and behaved badly not all that much. but i can understand feeling bad after working hard on something and people hating it, especially if you were just lurking before that 16:13 <@🌙BRUXA> just open with notepad? 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 7 points, T:39, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Gno Fem Neu) murdered her faithful little dog, on T:1 16:14 yep BRUXA 16:14 <@🌙BRUXA> will this be a toggle option in game? 16:14 <@🌙BRUXA> or 16:14 no, you can change into explore mode by typing #exploremode but you can't change back 16:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 180 points, T:283, killed by kicking a rock 16:15 (and it's not presented as an option in-game) 16:15 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) performed her first annihilation (humans), on T:1 16:15 <@🌙BRUXA> like how will i turn on before run? i can type #explore mode in game but dont get benefits of wizard mode 16:16 <@🌙BRUXA> ok not clear so if i change this script my game is just permenatly in wizard mode? 16:17 any game you start with OPTIONS=playmode:whatever will be permanently in that mode (well, you can change to explore mode if it's non-explore mode) 16:17 if you change the file back that will no longer be the case 16:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:52823 16:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:52824 16:17 <@🌙BRUXA> so to use wizard mode i need to type that into nethackrc each time and delete to disable? 16:18 wizard mode isn't meant to be played like a normal game, it's meant to test things for debugging. so i wouldn't recommend it, it's not fun because you can instantly kill any monster, instantly identify any item, instantly teleport anywhere in the dungeon, infinite wishes -- basically there's no progression 16:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:52825 16:18 <@🌙BRUXA> ok ill just forget it then thought would be useful tool for learning 16:18 explore mode is perfect for what you want though I think 16:19 if you have OPTIONS=playmode:explore in there, any game you start will be in explore mode. to play a normal game you'll have to change the file again to remove that line 16:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 2366 points, T:4023, killed by a giant mimic 16:19 <@🌙BRUXA> i mean it might all be unhelpful proably just need to learn game 16:20 explore mode is a good way to learn the game, that's what it's meant for -- but totally up to you. many people learn just by playing normally 16:20 <@🌙BRUXA> and if ive typed #exploremode in once it ends when i quit game correct? its not perma explore is it? 16:20 yeah it just changes that one character to explore mode 16:21 <@🌙BRUXA> copy 16:21 there's no way to change that particular character back to a normal game but subsequent characters won't be in explore mode 16:21 <@🌙BRUXA> yea 16:21 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Dra Elf Nbn Cha), 553 points, T:1127, killed by a hobgoblin's explosion, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 16:21 too bad the shortcut thing didn't work, maybe someone on reddit who uses Windows will be able to help you figure it out. it sounded like a nice way to be able to choose between explore mode and normal mode by having 2 shortcuts 16:22 <@🌙BRUXA> no (") in OPTIONS=playmode:explore right? 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:22716 16:22 yeah that was my mistake 16:22 sorry 16:22 typo 16:22 <@🌙BRUXA> np 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:3545 16:22 <@🌙BRUXA> yea the shortcut would be slick 16:22 what happened when you tried it? it just started normally, not in explore mode? 16:23 <@🌙BRUXA> dont need (#) before it? like rest of options lines 16:23 the # means it's commented out/disabled 16:23 <@🌙BRUXA> ah 16:24 <@🌙BRUXA> and lastly OPTIONS=playmode:explore can go anywhere there? then save>exit? i havent done a lot of this before 16:25 yeah, any line should work 16:25 <@🌙BRUXA> ok thank you 16:25 what happened when you tried the shortcut thing? did it start in normal mode? or was there something else that went wrong? 16:29 <@🌙BRUXA> An error 16:29 <@🌙BRUXA> When i tried to apply or do anything 16:29 when editing the shortcut? 16:29 <🌙BRUXA> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1008834859696918561/5F218063-3932-4587-B7F7-C7D02DEB1025.jpg 16:29 <@🌙BRUXA> This normal starting gear ? 16:29 <@🌙BRUXA> Trying to make sure i can add and delete that wizard line with no issue 16:30 <@Shadow_Rider> yes 16:30 yes that's the normal starting stuff, it's randomized for a wizard 16:30 <@🌙BRUXA> Before it gave me wand of tele now not here so im thinking ok 16:30 <@🌙BRUXA> Ah 16:30 the difference would be that if you start a new character in explore mode, it gives you a wand of wishing 16:30 <@🌙BRUXA> Ok cool then that works if with line i have tele 16:30 <@🌙BRUXA> Hmm 16:30 if you start a new character in wizard mode there wouldn't be any difference in your inventory 16:31 but you would have access to various debug commands 16:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] Ardub (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2284 16:32 <@🌙BRUXA> Ok nevermind not working then 16:33 <@🌙BRUXA> Oh 16:33 <@🌙BRUXA> So would have wand of wishing or no 16:34 i think the easiest way to tell would be: when you start a new game, there's a message like "Hello so-and-so, welcome to NetHack!". in wizard mode the so-and-so will be "wizard" rather than your name. in explore mode it will say "You are in non-scoring explore/discovery mode." 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:15727 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Neu) found the Eyes of the Overworld carried by a monster, on T:15727 16:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:15729 16:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +3 katana", got "a katana", on T:23327 16:41 <@🌙BRUXA> Hmm 16:42 <@🌙BRUXA> Think im in over my lil redneck brain 16:42 having the playmode:explore line in your .nethackrc is not working? 16:43 <@🌙BRUXA> Idk wana give you bad info if your like a dev or something. Very likely user error 16:43 <@🌙BRUXA> But no 16:43 <🌙BRUXA> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1008838405527973948/73B4CDEA-4444-4AEA-AB82-F37D2824ACE3.jpg 16:43 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of annihilation 16:43 oh, change the name to remove the '.template' part 16:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:53962 16:44 or copy it or something, so the name is just '.nethackrc' with no other extension 16:44 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Elf Nbn Cha), 12 points, T:98, slipped while mounting a saddled baby red dragon 16:45 <@🌙BRUXA> To this? 16:45 <🌙BRUXA> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1008838750308143204/98350CC5-B6F5-4A2F-8D6F-AFEB2FDA53F5.jpg 16:45 yes that looks right 16:46 <🌙BRUXA> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1008839086603251852/40045668-C5E6-4069-9804-2B2C00505338.jpg 16:46 wtf? 16:47 did you rename the file or copy it? 16:47 renamed it I guess? 16:47 <@🌙BRUXA> Idk man. Deleted template 16:47 <@🌙BRUXA> Now game wont run though 16:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:54239 16:48 you have a file in there called .nethackrc now, though? 16:49 okay I see the problem 16:49 this seems like a stupid design for the windows port 16:49 <@🌙BRUXA> Yes 16:49 but basically you can't just rename the file from .nethackrc.template to .nethackrc -- you need a file called .nethackrc.template AND a file called .nethackrc 16:49 <@🌙BRUXA> I have .nethackrc 16:50 so make a copy of .nethackrc and rename it to .nethackrc.template 16:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:54371 16:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:54373 16:51 <@🌙BRUXA> So copy and paste it into folder? 16:51 yeah I guess so, you want to end up with two files, both .nethackrc and .nethackrc.template 16:51 <@🌙BRUXA> Sry bout all this 16:52 don't be sorry, it's not intuitive 16:52 yeah especially on windows it doesn't really work the way most applications work 16:53 <🌙BRUXA> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1008840766409416844/1D309283-74EA-4051-AA32-404C3C1608B5.jpg 16:53 <@🌙BRUXA> Im also learning generally how to become semi literate with computers in general as well 16:53 cool, try it now. honestly i'm worried it still won't put you into explore mode but hopefully that should make the game run again :/ 16:53 <@🌙BRUXA> Game runs 16:54 <@🌙BRUXA> So add line to which? 16:54 put it in the one just called ".nethackrc" 16:55 <@🌙BRUXA> Ok 16:55 <@🌙BRUXA> And doesnt matter where 16:55 no, it shouldn't as long as it's a line by itself that just has OPTIONS=playmode:explore 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:7678 16:58 <🌙BRUXA> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1008842032485257299/FEB73244-29F0-49E8-A3E3-8C3D3ADD69AE.jpg 16:59 you just started a new game, right? not loaded a save file? 16:59 <@🌙BRUXA> New yes 17:00 can you copy and paste the contents of the .nethackrc file to https://pastebin.com/ 17:00 <🌙BRUXA> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1008842621050949712/021D2BD5-F49D-4B3E-A198-C81617CE248E.png 17:00 <@🌙BRUXA> Sry why am i pasting contents? 17:01 just to make sure it looks OK and there's nothing weird in there that would cause options parsing to not work properly 17:02 regarding the reddit comment, it's possible that explore mode could be disabled by default on Windows, but it would mean that the #exploremode command wouldn't work (it would say something like "You don't have access to explore mode") 17:02 did you try that command in-game earlier and see if it worked? 17:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:925 17:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5th time), on T:55708 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4012 points, T:8532, killed by a killer bee, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 17:03 <@🌙BRUXA> Yes but was told needed to start in debug/wizard to work. And that explore and other were very different 17:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:27162 17:07 just using #exploremode will work fine for learning, it will still give you the ability to decline to die, or to reload an old save file. you just won't start with the extra wand of wishing 17:07 that is an okay option, it's just frustrating none of this stuff we're trying is working. i wonder what's wrong 17:11 <@🌙BRUXA> yea no idea 17:11 <@🌙BRUXA> obviously haha 17:11 <@🌙BRUXA> im anxious to be able to be kinda competent in the game 17:12 <@🌙BRUXA> finaly got there with qud but feels ez compared to this 17:12 there is a bit of a brutal learning curve at first but it's really rewarding 17:13 <@🌙BRUXA> if you happen to turn anything up with it lmk ill delete moon icin so u can @🌙BRUXA 17:13 <@🌙BRUXA> yea oh im sure there is just gotta get there 17:14 <@🌙BRUXA> https://youtu.be/79xVqstEk9g 17:14 <@🌙BRUXA> this guy is helpful 17:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:2221 17:15 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Inf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a sonic beam 17:15 people in the nethack and hardfought channels are very helpful with questions, and the wiki is a great resource 17:16 the documentation that comes with the game is helpful too, that nethack-366-guidebook.pdf file 17:17 it was originally written by a famous librarian or something 17:17 <@🌙BRUXA> wow 17:17 <@🌙BRUXA> what otherrls do u enjoy? 17:18 <@🌙BRUXA> i play cogmind and rift wizard a lot 17:18 <@🌙BRUXA> qud too 17:18 I only play nethack and its variants haha, but I did play a little dcss and found that pretty fun 17:18 Crawl 17:18 <@🌙BRUXA> ha and shadow of the wyrm too 17:18 <@🌙BRUXA> ah cool 17:19 -!- cebolla has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:19 <@🌙BRUXA> yea cdda is awesome from whjat i can tell 17:20 -!- cebolla has joined #hardfought 17:27 -!- theRaisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:7040 17:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 355966 points, T:28681, killed by a dire sheep 17:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:57234 17:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Earth, on T:57234 17:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Air, on T:57509 17:36 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Fire, on T:57686 17:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Water, on T:57793 17:40 go finitelycraig 17:40 @d?dire sheep 17:40 dire sheep (q) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 18 | Res: fire cold | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: Nat 10/Dodge 0/Prot 0 | Attacks: 4d4 butt physical, 3d3 kick physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, herbivore, infravisible 17:47 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:48 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 17:48 -!- Semilg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:53 -!- rosepinkyfuzz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:58295 17:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2169 17:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed cockatrice corpse", got "a cockatrice corpse", on T:58300 17:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by Famine), on T:58317 18:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:58375 18:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Cha), 1411336 points, T:58375, ascended 18:02 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/f/finitelycraig/nethack/dumplog/1659795998.nh.html 18:04 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:04 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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"blessed +2 dragonhide cloak of magic resistance", on T:7394 20:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:3710 20:15 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming an ice devil, on T:3477 20:16 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Fir Dop Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:24155 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 471159 points, T:38745, killed by Yeenoghu 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 25 points, T:117, killed by a wand 20:25 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Arc Hob Fem Law), 362 points, T:339, killed by a dwarf 20:28 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed gpsalmoncannon's ghost, the former Heathen, on T:3713 20:29 !lastgame gpsalmoncannon 20:29 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/g/gpsalmoncannon/evilhack/dumplog/1660562018.evil.html 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 187 points, T:695, killed by a small mimic 20:33 NetSysFire: https://0x0.st/o2kf.png 20:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 175 points, T:671, killed by a newt 20:36 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 8082 points, T:5187, killed by a warg 20:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Ana Hum Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1822 20:43 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed dragonhide bag of holding named NetSysFire", on T:4619 20:47 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Arc Gno Fem Law), 272 points, T:763, killed by a volatile mushroom's explosion 21:10 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:43233 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "uncursed marker", got "a magic marker", on T:24106 21:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:7765 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:44148 21:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:44149 21:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:44354 21:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed the invocation, on T:44424 21:18 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 21:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:44531 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:44532 21:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Yeenoghu, on T:44601 21:25 [hdf-us] [evil] KingGizzard (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) averted death (killed by an elven sergeant), on T:7159 21:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:32238 21:29 -!- cebolla has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:30 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "bob", on T:8434 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Student of Metals (level 18), on T:45714 21:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3067 21:34 <🌙BRUXA> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1008911609189646457/B271B8F3-5E6E-42D9-AE02-AF956CE575C8.png 21:35 <@🌙BRUXA> Qt 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1620 points, T:3234, killed by a snake 21:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:88, killed by a fox 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:46499 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Earth, on T:46499 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:46499 21:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Air, on T:46536 21:38 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Snuff's ghost, the former Excursionist, on T:46733 21:38 trying the command-line thing is a good idea, but I don't know much about windows command line. I guess if you can open a command prompt and do 'cd "C:\Users\David Maloney\OneDrive\Desktop\NETHACK\"' then '.\NetHackW.exe -X' (or '-D -uwizard' for wizard mode), maybe it would work? 21:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 92 points, T:528, killed by a fox 21:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Fire, on T:46583 21:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Water, on T:46601 21:39 what errors did you get when you tried the shortcut thing btw? 21:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) genocided class ;, on T:46603 21:40 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:42145 21:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:46642 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Death, on T:46653 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) found Fire Brand carried by a monster, on T:46656 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Death (2nd time), on T:46662 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Death (3rd time), on T:46675 21:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:46701 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2165220 points, T:46725, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/otc/nethack/dumplog/1660222666.nh.html 21:48 you know, writing out that path from the error message earlier, I think we put the .nethackrc file in the wrong place. but if editing the .nethackrc.template file to add that line didn't make a difference I'm not sure that it would have helped anyway 21:48 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:14354 21:48 oh wait 21:48 maybe it would have 21:49 you know, I think I might know where we went wrong with the config file 21:50 BRUXA: can you look to see if you have a different nethack folder somewhere? I think it would be in C:\Users\\NetHack or C:\Users\\OneDrive\NetHack based on the path in that error message. something like that -- not the one on your desktop 21:51 I think there will be a .nethackrc file in there that you need to edit, instead of messing with the .template one in the Desktop\NETHACK folder like we were doing earlier 21:55 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) had a pair of kicking boots entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:15403 21:56 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) had a dwarvish spear entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:16181 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 281 points, T:2073, killed by a large mimic 22:05 [hdf-us] [evil] tinklebear (Kni Elf Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:15788 22:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Ana Hum Fem Cha), 24977 points, T:3096, killed by a dream quasielemental, while fainted from lack of food 22:15 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Arc Elf Fem Law), 168 points, T:139, killed by a dwarf 22:15 [hdf-us] [evil] elron (Sam Hum Fem Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:18145 22:33 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 22:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4646 22:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:8748 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 183 points, T:571, killed by a falling rock 23:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 590 points, T:1730, killed by an invisible werejackal 23:10 -!- aoei has joined #hardfought 23:10 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v aoei] by ChanServ 23:10 sup y'all 23:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Kni Hum Fem Law), 236 points, T:1042, killed by a wand 23:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] CuriousCowan (Brd Swn Fem Cha) averted death, on T:3959 23:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 717 points, T:1614, killed by a giant bat 23:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1860 23:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 120653 points, T:12117, killed by a death ray 23:21 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuff (Tou Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:10257 23:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] CuriousCowan (Brd Swn Fem Cha), 12460 points, T:4300, killed by a gnome lord 23:37 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 dragonhide speed boots", on T:85411 23:41 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 32 points, T:139, killed by a water moccasin 23:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1034