00:01 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:04 -!- mwehner_ is now known as mwehner 00:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:7662 00:06 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:13482 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) polymorphed his first object, on T:33054 00:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Cleaver by Set, on T:7940 00:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Val Swn Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:32182 00:21 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:33660 00:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Val Swn Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:32735 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) found Vorpal Blade on the floor, on T:33701 00:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] johnnyteapot (And-Ana And Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3842 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bleem (Rog Orc Fem Cha) was bestowed with Stormbringer by Kos, on T:1709 00:37 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Rog Dop Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:35554 00:38 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Rog Dop Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:35887 00:42 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Rog Dop Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:36003 00:42 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Rog Dop Mal Cha), 1370212 points, T:36017, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowrider38/slashthem/dumplog/1660234129.slth.txt 00:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bleem (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 954 points, T:3126, killed by an elf zombie, while fainted from lack of food 00:44 <@lapis> grats shadow 00:45 <@Shadow_Rider> thanks :) 00:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Orcrist by Set, on T:9616 00:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Dragonbane by Set, on T:9639 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", got "a greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:35464 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 t-shirt", got "a greased T-shirt", on T:35465 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", got "2 scrolls labeled PHOL ENDE WODAN", on T:35468 01:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bleem (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3224 01:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bleem (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:3412 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 helm of brilliance", got "a greased plumed helmet", on T:35502 01:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:35504 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed boots of speed", got "a greased pair of jungle boots", on T:35525 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed orb of fate", got "a glass orb named the Orb of Fate", on T:35668 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bleem (Rog Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3714 01:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful large cat, on T:11354 01:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:11556 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 14902 points, T:11776, killed by an invisible troll 01:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bleem (Rog Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4737 01:45 [hdf-us] [evil] galaelas (Con Ith Mal Cha), 54 points, T:186, killed by a fox, while dragging an iron ball 01:45 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4146 01:47 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:16827 01:57 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:4573 01:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:39642 02:03 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Fir Dop Fem Neu) killed the ghost of zor, the former Hatamoto, on T:6945 02:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Cleaver by Set, on T:3672 02:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:5193 02:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5735 02:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed ice box", got "a greased ice box", on T:31439 02:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6851 02:42 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 18669 points, T:5644, killed by a ghoul, while praying 02:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] laura (Rog Orc Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "d", on T:5526 02:50 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:51 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 02:51 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 02:51 [hdf-us] [dnh] johnnyteapot (And-Ana And Mal Neu) has already received their quest via sticky-note, on T:12352 02:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] johnnyteapot (Ana And Mal Neu), 98532 points, T:12376, killed by a potion of confusion 02:59 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 03:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] johnnyteapot (And-Ana And Mal Neu) wished for "blessed rustproof +3 atma weapon", on T:1998 03:08 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 765 points, T:1231, killed by the Goblin King 03:10 i have a luckstone, i haven't done anything special for luck (e.g. throwing gems to unicorns), but if i just altar camp and sacrifice, and pray as soon as it's safe to pray, eventually will i get "extremely lucky" and be able to be crowned? or is that not sufficient? 03:11 WHen I got crowned above, it was just ordinary luck, although I did have a luckstone. 03:12 arahael: ok, so just sacrifice luck, nothing more than that? i've got a few favors already, including health boots, uncursing, and the passtune 03:13 Moult: It's just chance, really, I think. 03:13 Moult: But you're somewhat more likely to get it if you're on very good standing, eg, havent eaten any meat as a monk, I think. 03:14 arahael: ah ok, i don't think i've done anything wrong 03:16 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Neu), 166 points, T:465, killed by an elder pseudodragon 03:17 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (grid bugs), on T:72 03:20 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1111 03:24 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:26 nothing to do with conduct btw 03:27 wel you need to be pious but past sins don't matter 03:27 i've prayed a lot and still no go :( 03:28 "You may be crowned as a result of prayer if you are at least piously aligned and extremely lucky." 03:28 Yeah it's a chance, just keep trying 03:33 mobileuser: i'm just assuming that i'm piously aligned and extremely lucky, but i have no idea 03:33 mobileuser: i've prayed about 15 times 03:33 on the plus side, it's bumped up my hp quite bit 03:33 now 92 max hp at xl9 03:34 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2189 03:35 I usually assume I have max luck once the four leaf clovers no longer appear for higher-value sacrifices 03:35 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Ran Elf Mal Cha) was bestowed with Orcrist by Mars, on T:20401 03:35 ugh, didn't want that 03:36 heh, we all know that feeling 03:36 better than my -3 sting though :) 03:36 haha 03:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] johnnyteapot (And-Ana And Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:5398 03:37 mobileuser: oh ok, so once the four leaf clovers don't appear, it's likely that i'm maxed out? 03:38 yeah, but only if the monster was high-value enough 03:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 Hawaiian shirt", got "a greased Hawaiian shirt", on T:31609 03:39 like a giant beetle, they always give a clover if luck isn't maxed out yet 03:39 mobileuser: ah ok, i just sacced a giant beetle, and i got a clover 03:39 mobileuser: so i've been wasting my prayers? 03:39 there you go 03:39 maybe 03:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 4006 points, T:2524, killed by a rock gnome 03:39 *sigh*, stunlocked. 03:40 arahael: oof 03:40 Is there anything that can be done at that point? 03:41 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Neu), 1030 points, T:2775, killed by a bolt of lightning 03:42 mobileuser: so would a beetle is difficult 6, so it only increases my luck by 1. 03:43 use the scrolls? 03:45 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Neu) had a leather cloak entrusted to him by Venus, on T:740 03:45 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:45 "and thus I grant thee the gift of my protection!" <-- i got an 1 AC bonus, does this mean i have one less i can purchase from priests? 03:49 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Neu) had a wooden trident entrusted to him by Venus, on T:1363 03:49 I believe so (not completely sure) 03:52 ah, pity 03:52 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Neu) had a leather studded armor entrusted to him by Venus, on T:1985 03:55 It's the same as protection bought from priests, yeah. 03:56 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Neu) had a copper elven dagger entrusted to him by Venus, on T:2688 03:56 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2702 04:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:31948 04:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:31954 04:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:31982 04:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31985 04:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:32002 04:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2912 04:07 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4672 04:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:32130 04:12 -!- Guest32 has joined #hardfought 04:13 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Ran Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:22693 04:13 all that work for a third bag of holding. 04:17 on the other hand, it's the milestone between early and mid game :) both mine's end and soko done! 04:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was bestowed with Magicbane by Anhur, on T:3776 04:17 i think it's time for a bit of inventory management, possible alchemy, getting some holy water, and continuing to try and get stormy 04:18 really do need reflection though :( 04:19 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Neu) destroyed Snuff's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:5973 04:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:32149 04:28 -!- Guest32 has quit [Quit: Client closed] 04:28 [hdf-eu] [slshm] mobileuser (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 11860 points, T:6118, killed by an elf mummy, while helpless 04:29 argh the one time I didn't check to see what the monster was 04:29 mobileuser: what happened 04:30 and then it's a floating eye OF COURSE 04:30 immediate punishment for not paying attention 04:31 :( 04:32 oh well, maybe the next game will have an early altar 04:34 somehow I seem to do more stupid things with cavepeople, maybe it's subconscious role playing :b 04:35 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:35 -!- theRaisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 04:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6407 04:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 13883 points, T:6690, killed by an invisible gargoyle 04:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] johnnyteapot (And-Ana And Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:11469 04:56 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1128 04:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Inc Mal Cha) wished for "Shield of the resolute heart", on T:385 05:01 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:32786 05:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:32873 05:11 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 05:11 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:32947 05:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] khill (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:33256 05:48 "What do you want to dip 4 uncursed potions of speed into? [gT or ?*]" 05:48 I'll have a G&T thanks very much :D 05:49 "The potions of speed mix with the potion of healing..." 05:49 "The mixture looks bubbly. g - 4 diluted potions of extra healing." 05:49 Yummy and refreshing on a hot day 05:49 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of bone kicking boots entrusted to her by Odin, on T:11462 05:52 +20% to HP thank you G&T 05:52 (blessed ofc) 05:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 523 points, T:1035, killed by a pony 06:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 06:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Bar Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Merlek's ghost, the former Pillager, on T:1579 06:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Bar Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2517 06:39 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 06:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Bar Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Cleaver by Set, on T:3096 06:45 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Vorpal Blade by Thoth, on T:19572 06:45 hmm 06:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Bar Hum Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "a", on T:3399 06:49 I always thought a barbarian would start with "ugh" 06:50 or maybe "yeeeeeaah baby" 07:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:5500 07:20 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Ran Elf Mal Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Mars, on T:25010 07:20 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Ran Elf Mal Cha) was bestowed with Stormbringer, on T:25010 07:20 \o/ 07:20 yay \o/ 07:20 Grasshopper: are you in australia? 07:20 Moult, no 07:21 I *am* Australian 07:21 Grasshopper: ah ok, i'd like to watch your game :) i'd like to learn how you managed to completely buff up your character 07:22 moult, in that case I warn you: I can be boring at times 07:22 Grasshopper: that's ok, what are you doing now? 07:22 like, I am playing nethack but also spraypainting 07:22 apart from coming up with puns for your lizards 07:23 ahm... thinking about uber-enchanting some 100+ darts I have collected 07:23 have done mines and soko 07:23 have ref, MR, bag 07:24 so next phase is medusa/quest/castle in some order 07:24 Grasshopper: you've finished soko and minetown? 07:24 done and dusted! 07:25 tho may revisit the priest for some more protection 07:25 I have "re-camped" at the level below soko 07:25 Grasshopper: i think our games are at similar points, except i have 3 BoH and no ref / MR 07:26 well, I like to think of them as the holy trinity 07:26 try ascending without one of them, not impossible but def a challenge 07:28 So, I have a stack of 41 blessed +2 darts 07:28 and a single blessed +3 dart 07:28 and my luck is high (extremely) already 07:29 so I figure I might try throwing theseee for a bit 07:29 theseee? 07:29 maybe build up my stack of darts a bit more 07:30 pressed eeeeee too long 07:30 how'd you enchant them? with a scroll or another technique? 07:30 how else? 07:30 at this point i've got a stash of random scrolls and potions but haven't ID'd any of them 07:30 I usually just stash my non-ID'd scrolls 07:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Merlek (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9081 07:31 i find that i don't use any un-ID'd scrolls/potions until after the early game, and only near the end of the early game i can do holy water, bless the ID scrolls i have, and attempt to ID msot of what i've got 07:31 the big one to look for is teleportation 07:31 Grasshopper: oh? why is tele important? 07:31 that can be ID'd for you if you find one in a hidden closet, for example 07:32 ? of tele is an escape item 07:32 ah ok 07:32 so, when the leocrotta is about to eat your innards, ? tele 07:32 regroup, escape, heal etc. 07:32 ah ok, there was a leo about to whomp me in soko, so uh... i just left and came back once i had twice the hp 07:33 Grasshopper: how'd you get your HP so high? usually wizards are weak 07:33 also teleportation is more common 07:33 becaues it is found in closets, and also monsters often carry it 07:33 Grasshopper: right now my elf ranger is 112hp max but that's because i prayed a lot and got a lot of favours on the way to being crowned 07:33 Grasshopper: right, i almost never use tele scrolls, i'll try to 07:34 so, trick is to covet your potions 07:34 healing + speed (or gain energy/gain level) = extra healing 07:34 i always try to collect as many potions as posisble, and once i've ID's them alchemise as many as possible into blessed full heal 07:34 but even then... 07:34 blessed extra healing = 5hp per potion 07:35 don't bother with FH 07:35 but even after alchemizing every single potion i've found throughout the game, i only get up to about 200-300 by the end of the game, where'as you're strolling around with 600hp 07:35 mathematically, statistically, you get a bit better going for xhealing 07:35 I know 07:36 Grasshopper: aah ok so the trick is not to bother with full healing? 07:36 because in 343 I always went for FH 07:36 isn't that a waste of extra gain level/energy potions? 07:36 yes 07:36 healing + speed (unless you are desperate) 07:38 potions of speed are mostly useless unless you have a specific situation, and you can predict the need 07:38 and in the later game they can become superceded by other things, like boots or haste spells 07:39 so, in middle game, I like to bless my extra healings and full healings, alchemise a little, and increase base HP a little bit 07:40 this improves your survivability in unpredictable situations 07:40 which the RNG will throw at you, for sure 07:41 more so than a potion of speed will anyways 07:44 I have 6 enchant weapon scrolls 07:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] moob (Hea Gno Mal Neu) found Stormbringer on the floor, on T:1920 07:44 so, I could enchant my large stacks of daggers (> 60) 07:44 which is a good idea 07:44 but this time, I have a better one 07:45 I'm going to hoard those scrolls for when I have a prodigious shitload of darts (or maybe arrows) 07:46 then enchant the bejeeezus out of them 07:46 Grasshopper: right 07:46 Grasshopper: would you be interested in checking out my early game hoard and giving some advice? 07:46 because I have +3/+2 darts already 07:46 also TIL that keys can lock too :) 07:47 a proper game hoard requires an altar (and a stash) 07:48 also, I haven't done the wiz quest yet 07:48 and that will have a few dart traps in it 07:48 Grasshopper: is there reason you choose darts over daggers for wizard? lighter? 07:49 and can be poisoned? 07:49 OK, look up the weights 07:49 daggers weigh 10 each 07:49 significantly lighter, yes 07:49 darts weigh 1 each 07:49 then i wonder why daggers used to be recommended so much? i guess before you get an enchanted hoard they don't break 07:49 and the average damage for darts is only 0.5 lowqer 07:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Fem Neu) was given Apotheosis Veil, on T:216228 07:50 but if enchanted, the enchantment counts in full 07:50 as does any other damage bonuses 07:51 so by endgame, your bonuses are like... +5 to +15+ 07:51 when might you recommend daggers? the wiki talks about daggers used for elf rangers 07:51 and 0.5hp difference is nothing compared to the weight difference 07:52 daggers are grat for rangers and wizards in their early game 07:52 but for wiz in later game, move to darts 07:52 for rangers in mid-later game, move to arrows 07:52 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 345 points, T:740, killed by a dart 07:53 or bolts (gnomes) whatevers 07:53 daggers for wiz makes sense because of magicbane anyway 07:54 if playing ranger, by end of quest you may have a stack of 1000+ arrows anyway 07:55 so why not try to ultra-enchant them 07:55 but that is all later-game munchkin stuff 07:56 Grasshopper: in the late game for ranger, i find i'm levitating a lot so i don't accidentally trigger traps in gehennom. aren't arrows inconvenient then? 07:57 ranger levitating is not a great idea 07:58 elf ranger, elven bow + elven arrows, can achieve 5 shots per turn 07:58 not when levitating 07:58 lev auto limits your shots to one 07:59 and pushes you back as well 07:59 Grasshopper: so how do you avoid traps in gehennom? traps burning your armor, trapdoors making you go further than you wanted...? 07:59 fireproof your gear 07:59 or just learn to not care 08:00 gehennom is nasty, all levels 08:00 and for specific places like the sanctum with the fire traps or the moats or plane of fire/air just temporarily use levitation? 08:00 yes 08:01 I mostly just stash my shit for the fire traps 08:01 because by the time I'm assauting the sanctum, I've already prepped my stuff 08:02 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Kni Hlf Mal Law) killed the Platinum Dragon, on T:25883 08:03 by the time I am ready to get the amulet, I've done all the prep I need 08:07 Moult, lev does not protect against fire traps 08:07 but will lev you above lava yes 08:08 If you have fireproof boots of water walking you can even walk on lava 08:09 Grasshopper: right. i'll take on that advice :) don't levitate 08:09 no don't be like that 08:09 levitating is ok fine whatever 08:09 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) destroyed the invisible post163's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:3827 08:10 just that there are multiple options 08:10 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Kni Hlf Mal Law) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:26317 08:10 do whatever you neeed to do 08:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "uncursed magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:39919 08:14 Grasshopper: cheers :) 08:14 thanks Moult :) 08:15 If you watch me for next 15-30 minutes, I promise it will not be boring 08:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] moob (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3522 08:15 as I am now pushing on to quest+ 08:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:39932 08:17 Grasshopper: watching :) 08:18 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 3542 points, T:2033, killed by a fire ant 08:19 did you see me fined the Vlad hole? 08:19 Grasshopper: yep 08:20 you get these, and also vault teleport holes/closets 08:20 Grasshopper: yep, i've learned about them 08:20 so when I explore upper levels, I scan the top and bottom layers\ 08:21 Fell into the oracle level, fell further below, into a shop, and then fell into a nymph level, where they stole everything I had. :( 08:22 arahael: ouch :( 08:22 also.. when you use a non_ID wand, #name it the number of uses 08:22 arahael, yeeek 08:22 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 08:23 moult, did you see that? 08:24 Grasshopper: i missed how you teleported 08:24 I got a random teleport, and just chose a random spot in un-explored area 08:24 Grasshopper: oh you have tele control? 08:24 I ate something to make me jumpy 08:24 and this wiz atarted with =oTC 08:25 Grasshopper: ah ok 08:25 so just taking advantage 08:25 Grasshopper: good idea :) 08:25 I found and shop-IDd a +5 crude dagger 08:25 lucky me :P 08:26 hard work reallyu 08:26 but anyways, is my leading volley 08:26 throwing darts cos want to improve skills 08:28 Grasshopper: wow, you really take an individual monster slowly and carefully 08:28 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Kni Hlf Mal Law) killed the Lady of Pain, on T:27435 08:28 Grasshopper: why didn't you use any spells? 08:28 I made a mis-throw even 08:28 no need for spells 08:28 and I want to train darks 08:29 darts 08:29 "You finish eating the elf-lady corpse." 08:29 soomething very wrong about that 08:30 The fact you're eating an arguably sapient being? 08:30 -!- Semilg has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:30 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1138 08:31 "You are now more skilled in dart." 08:31 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 08:31 elves are yummy, very human knows that 08:32 Grasshopper: why casting light? 08:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] N8FH5e (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1025 points, T:1951, killed by an invisible gnome 08:33 light is such an undr-rated spell 08:33 Grasshopper: is it just to train the spell category or is there another purpose? 08:33 * Moult brb 08:33 do you know that most of the time, in the early game, when you die, it could be avoided if you knew what was coming? 08:34 so... like to cast light around stairs 08:34 Grasshopper: good point, i guess i mostly play things which have infravision 08:34 infra is great... for things that have heat 08:36 go down to a new level, check out who is there! 08:37 undead and others are invisible to infravision 08:38 use telepathy/blindfold or detect monsters when you enter a new level 08:38 or cast light (spell/scroll/lamp etc) 08:39 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:912 08:39 first entry to gnome mines level, go in a circle around the upstairs 08:40 knowledge is power 08:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 08:42 [hdf-us] [nh4] Tarna (mobius) (Val Dwa Fem Law), 17370 points, T:1034, quit 08:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", got "a shining spellbook", on T:25937 08:45 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 1356 points, T:1173, killed by an earth elemental of Thoth 08:48 [hdf-us] [xnh] mobius (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2072 08:48 Grasshopper: Why a circle around the upstairs? 08:50 arahael, I was in a bear trap? 08:51 Grasshopper: Sorry, I wasn't actually watching, was just looking at the chat here. But how would you move in a circle if you're in a trap? 08:52 [hdf-us] [nh4] afld (post163) (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, wiped out by a scroll of genocide 08:53 arahael, I don't know exactly how what you describe would happen 08:53 I'm trying to make sense of this line: 08:53 > Grassh+| first entry to gnome mines level, go in a circle around the upstairs 08:54 yeah I can't help with that\ 08:54 Haha. :D 08:54 have no idea sorry lol 08:55 No worries :D 08:55 I do go around perimeters of rooms to search for teleport closets 08:56 beyond that there is no rhyme or reason I am sure of 08:56 I try to do that but it's tedious when you don't have searching. 08:56 I think Grasshopper always has immaculate meticulous ascensions 08:56 I'm way too lazy to do anything like that 08:57 amateurhour: Me too. I just YOLO it all. 08:57 I just charge in and likely splat 08:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Muad (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 7972 points, T:2261, killed by a fire ant 08:57 amateurhour: As you've probably figured out... 08:58 amateurhour: he certainly is moving very slowly and carefully everywhere 08:58 TBHm I need to pee 08:58 give me 2 minutes 08:58 Grasshopper: you have my permission to pee 08:59 Grasshopper: Don't forget to wash afterwards. 09:01 in the meantime, here's my fully ID's stash from the early game elf ranger: any recommendations on what (if any) i should be doing with it? or just go ahead and dive and get more loot: https://i.imgur.com/hgI4XG9.png 09:02 Moult, I will look 09:02 but my game will pause 09:03 get some holy water and enchant stormy imo 09:04 And enchant that tshirt. 09:05 enchant that armor, IMHO\ 09:05 at least the T-shirt 09:05 arahael: is it worth it to use the enchant armor now? or should i be waiting until i get a stack 09:05 i only have one scroll 09:05 Moult: Bless the scroll and enchant so it's at least +4. 09:06 arahael: the single scroll won't take it up to +4 i reckon 09:06 Yeah, unlikely, but use it on the shirt at least. 09:06 You'll ascend with that shirt so the shirt's a safe bet. 09:06 what about enchanting stormy vs enchanting an arrow stack? i've got a 69 arrow stack 09:07 * arahael defers to the non-monk experts on that. 09:07 first thing I'd do is different to all of you 09:07 you wouldn't sort out holy water? 09:08 I'd get that scroll of remove curse and get rid of the cursed status for (most) things 09:08 what about the potions, no speed, and my extra healing stack is only 2 09:08 and holy water is a part of that 09:08 righto 09:08 holy water to bless the scroll to uncurse the shit 09:09 some cursed stuff needs to be kept, like a cursed scroll to write genoicde too etc 09:09 Uncursing the shit is a good strategy. 09:10 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 09:10 so blessed remov ecurse 09:11 right, so get holy water, bless remove curse scroll, uncurse... everything except the blank paper? 09:11 and enough holy water to persue that strategy 09:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:37085 09:11