00:05 the short answer is that jettyplay seems to be "the best" :) 00:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Gnr-Ran Gno Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2640 00:11 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Ith Mal Una), 9070 points, T:3428, killed by an elven arrow 00:13 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a long sword entrusted to her by Odin, on T:18985 00:13 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 12546 points, T:3139, killed by a kobold zombie 00:19 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:4240 00:19 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:20733 00:22 -!- leogorerd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] xNHRN (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Anaraxis the Black, on T:51152 00:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] xNHRN (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) found the Eye of the Aethiopica carried by a monster, on T:51152 00:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] xNHRN (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:51154 00:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2986 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a concave amulet on an altar, on T:3118 00:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3204 points, T:3677, killed by a dwarf, while praying 00:38 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a leather studded armor entrusted to her by Odin, on T:22899 00:39 ArahaelWeb: is that lava in the room? also, is it just me or is the contrast been corridor and lit corridor much nicer than vanilla? 00:39 That's larva. 00:39 *lava 00:39 And yes, again, evil is just so much better. :D 00:40 Also wanted to point out that when there's two upstairs or two downstairs, the one to the "special level" is generally yellow. 00:40 ArahaelWeb: the yellow stair seems to be included in hdf-au's vanilla :) 00:40 Nice :) 00:40 i don't know if it's actual vanilla which has it, or just hdf-au which has applied a bunch of patches 00:40 The vanilla variant seems to be improving then. ;) 00:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] dragonspeaker (Hea Swn Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2818 00:41 i wonder why vanilla doesn't just fast-track these QoL improvements being merged 00:41 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a steel dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:23045 00:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 335 points, T:797, killed by a coyote 00:42 Moult: They're probably more conservative. 00:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Pir Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Blackbeard's Ghost, on T:25748 00:46 ArahaelWeb: oranges, nice 00:47 ArahaelWeb: well it's just UI QoL stuff 00:47 Blegh, it's always Eucalyptus leaves I'm going for with the trees. 00:47 ArahaelWeb: what for? 00:48 In evil, sickness is *far* more common, if I get bit by a zombie or locus, etc, I'll become terminally ill.  So I'll require a way to cure myself, eucalyptus is one way. 00:54 * Moult watches the new sokoban levels 01:00 And they don't ever get flipped either! 01:00 Now, THAT is a QoL improvement. 01:03 Moult: Another evil-ism - no Elbereth until you've learnt it. 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] pilgrim (Sam Hum Fem Law), 171 points, T:419, killed by kicking a door 01:14 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Pir Elf Fem Cha) killed the first wraithworm, on T:28251 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] pilgrim (Pri Hum Mal Law), 512 points, T:930, killed by a small mimic 01:16 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:8844 01:18 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a lizard corpse, on T:9284 01:30 ArahaelWeb: i quite like the idea of the oracle being more useful, and having to pay her for stuff, it adds to the "story" :) 01:30 I think you always had to pay for her stuff? 01:30 She also has a magic 8-ball, which has something like a 0.000001% chance of a wish the very first time you use it. 01:30 i meant have to as in you need to access parts of the game 01:31 like learning about elbereth 01:32 maybe the oracle can have a dual purpose - one being to teach you about the game for people who play unspoiled, and the other to grant you access to optional branches (fort ludios, or maybe some new branches) for flavour 01:32 Ah, yeah.  Eg, to get into mine town, you need to first kill the goblin king.  And that Elbereth thing. 01:32 and all of her "fake news" stuff can be reduced to unpaid chitter chatter 01:33 Hmm, maybe.  I couldn't imagine playing evil unspoiled. 01:33 minor consults would be teaching the game, probably also useful for variants (e.g. if i've never played evil, but would like to learn), and major consults might reveal new branches 01:34 You'd be at the oracle a *lot*. 01:36 ArahaelWeb: right now the oracle is kinda just a landmark, like the rogue level. i guess it has trees in evil which is nice. but would be good to give it more purpose 01:36 Try dnh. 01:37 Doesn't always have trees, the statues sometimes have spell books, even in vanilla. 01:37 EvilHack assumes you're already pretty spoiled on the game on top of having ascended a couple of times, bare minimum. 01:37 And in vanilla is a rare guaranteed source of water. 01:37 I'm not sure you'd even get to the oracle unspoiled in evil. 01:37 ...also, the Oracle was already the "intended" unspoiled source of information about the game. 01:39 Umbire: yeah, just that it seem to mix in some fake news 01:39 ArahaelWeb: isn't there a risk of using the oracle fountains in drowning the oracle? 01:39 ...she doesn't. 01:39 Even if she did...  Yay. Least of our worries in evil. 01:40 The Oracle's saying pulls directly from the list of true rumors that you also encounter randomly. 01:40 Darn, lost my robe. 01:40 The minor consultations are just vague as opposed to actively cryptic. 01:44 A random hero in dlvl 15? 01:44 *hezrou. 01:44 (seems this client auto-corrects my typing) 01:44 Ah, polymorph trap. 01:46 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2370 points, T:3645, killed by a bugbear 01:51 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1027 points, T:1237, killed by a jackal, while frozen by a monster's gaze 01:54 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 9 points, T:43, killed by a sewer rat 01:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Pir Elf Fem Cha), 349933 points, T:30434, killed by a barbed devil, while praying 01:58 Moult: I'm not sure if I should wish up a new robe, or dragon bane (which are gloves in evil) 01:58 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1149, rt[0:03:40] 02:01 ArahaelWeb: im the wrong person to ask 02:02 Heh, but it's also why I've been hanging onto the lamp for so long! I can't decide. 02:03 It's entirely possible the quest nemesis has a robe, too, anyway. 02:03 Meanwhile, I've got a pretty reasonable GoP as well, just no reflection. 02:04 That 5...  Huge worry. 02:06 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 02:06 Found a random robe! 02:06 ALHOON! 02:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Mad Inc Fem Neu), 762 points, T:1084, killed by a giant bat 02:10 [hdf-us] [ace] pilgrim (Val Dwa Fem Law), 27472 points, T:1398, killed by a giant ant 02:13 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1829 points, T:2101, killed by a housecat 02:19 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1761, rt[0:05:39] 02:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Ana Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:868 02:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Mad Inc Fem Neu), 740 points, T:1403, killed by a piranha 02:29 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3149 points, T:3823, killed by an orcish arrow 02:35 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 02:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Mad Inc Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2009 02:37 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 288 points, T:999, killed by a bat 02:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] laura (Rog Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:6138 02:44 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:1104, rt[0:06:09] 02:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:33250 02:45 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3085, rt[0:16:26] 02:46 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha), 1483 points, T:3114, killed by a wererat 02:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:33316 02:48 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1927, rt[0:09:54] 02:50 FWIW, colored walls is not a QoL improvement. I'm not sure it's an "improvement" ... 02:50 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:2300, rt[0:12:18] 02:50 the colored branch stairs is, and it is in 3.7 02:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) found Grimtooth in a shop, on T:33372 02:57 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 02:58 paxed: I definitely notice the coloured walls, but...  Other than saying I'm used to them and like them, and I find vanilla consequentially a little bland...  But...  I had a very brief play at ace hack this morning, and...  I felt overwhelmed with all the colour!:D 02:59 So it's probably a preference thing, really. 03:00 i think (but cba to check right now) that current 3.7 allows for coloring branch walls in different colors, if the utf8 is on. 03:01 but you'd have to config those yourself 03:01 Fair enough - in any case, evil definitely has a lot more colour. I personally like it. 03:01 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:6571, rt[0:15:12] 03:02 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2221 points, T:3823, killed by a fire ant 03:02 I think vanilla's colours are quite Ok, though, they don't actually add significant information anyway. 03:02 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/cb0c21e91d90c16cd470fa808a93e959aae1ed37 03:03 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha), 604 points, T:7133, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 03:03 so this should work: OPTIONS=glyph:G_vwall_sokoban/U+2502/0-0-190 03:03 Oh, nifty. 03:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed ice box", got "a greased ice box", on T:33660 03:07 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 323 points, T:610, killed by a sewer rat 03:13 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:1472, rt[0:05:45] 03:15 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1886, rt[0:07:51] 03:25 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3399, rt[0:17:46] 03:29 [hdf-au] [dnh] pityhero (Elf-Wiz Elf Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:40465 03:35 paxed: the coloured walls are already distinguished in vanilla's tilesets, so i guess that's why i assumed it'd be a QoL thing in ascii too 03:39 paxed: am i reading that commit correctly? it seems as though coloured walls are already implemented? 03:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Ana Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:4914 03:50 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Aphrodite, on T:38725 03:52 -!- ArahaelWeb has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 03:56 Moult: should be. you need to configure them yourself 03:57 paxed: don't the lines in that commit's dat/symbols already have the correct glyphs and colours? i would assume they are used as defaults? 03:59 -!- kewldewd has joined #hardfought 03:59 if you use the enhanced symbol set, then yes. otherwise you need to config it yourself 04:02 paxed: how do i use the enhanced symbol set? 04:03 https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Moult/nethack/Moult.nhrc here's my nhrc, i don't have ibmgraphics/decgraphics set 04:08 OPTIONS=symset:IBMgraphics or OPTIONS=symset:curses perhaps? 04:08 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 04:10 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 11843 points, T:8860, killed by a blast of fire 04:11 oh right, i see, it's a new thing called "Enhanced1", let me try it 04:14 just tested with OPTIONS=symset:Enhanced1 on hdf-au nethack 3.7 and the mines are still white :(, did i mess up? 04:30 paxed: i also tried with the syntax in the commit to try and explicitly config it https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/M/Moult/nethack/Moult.nhrc e.g. OPTIONS=glyph:G_vwall_mines/U+2502/113-126-142 but no luck, still appears as white 04:39 confirmed i've set it with in-game "O" options menu showing n) symset [Enhanced1, active, handler=UTF8] 04:41 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Cav Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1021 04:43 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:40862 04:43 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:40864 04:43 -!- irinka is now known as Aoei 04:46 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:41026 04:50 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Cav Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", got "a greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:2468 04:50 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] xtof54 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:4916 04:53 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "wand of striking", got "a brass wand", on T:2946 04:58 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "wand of death", got "a runed wand", on T:3662 05:01 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 5784 points, T:4147, quit 05:01 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Cav Dwa Mal Law) made his first wish - "uncursed pickaxe", got "a pick-axe", on T:661 05:02 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "wand of death", got "a runed wand", on T:748 05:05 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 1030 points, T:935, quit 05:27 -!- moon-child is now known as MOON-CHILD 05:29 apologies for the spam, i didn't realise livelogs would occur for explore mode testing 05:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Ana Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:13935 05:33 i'm thinking of playing a ranger (and if i succeed, then monk as recommended :) because i like the idea of a ranged bow and arrow non-magical character. any recommendations on race alignment combos? 05:34 -!- MOON-CHILD is now known as moon-child 05:38 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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I assume yes. 05:50 malor i did :D 05:52 <@malor> Good job. 05:54 malor Thanks! i'm now looking for another different play style instead of warrior types and spellcasting types, and so i'd like to try a ranger (rogues seem to be very dagger oriented, which is too similar to a wizard's dagger strategy) 05:54 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:09 <@hackemslashem> Huh, a shop with water in the middle - so you can take a bath while shopping [evilhack] 06:09 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/1003242968150458408/unknown.png 06:16 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 06:19 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 5000 points, T:300, killed by a homunculus 06:25 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 10000 points, T:973, killed by a gnome lord 06:27 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7319 06:33 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 20000 points, T:1111, killed by a wand 06:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:59998 06:47 an elven ranger firing +2 elven arrows gets a +1 multishot for being a ranger and +1 multishot for being an elf using elf weapons, and a +1 damage bonus from the elf arrow in an elf bow. so that's 1d3 (multishot) * (1d7 (arrow) +2 (enchantment) +1 (elven bonus)). that's pretty strong for a starting weapon 06:50 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 15000 points, T:2548, killed by a bugbear 06:54 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Ran Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (large mimics), on T:503 06:55 wow, that was lucky. failed to read a spellbook, randomly teleported myself in a shop, and was caught by a large mimic whilst still level 1. read random scroll i picked up, which happened to be genocide. 06:56 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:44279 06:58 This lichen corpse tastes fatty. <-- it's vegetarian! 06:59 But the arrows break 07:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) killed Lungorthin, on T:60473 07:00 Andrio: true, that's a good way to balance an otherwise very good starting weapon 07:01 mm~ 07:01 I think Slash'Em has an artifact that insta-disintegrates a monster it's thrown at (along with its inventory) and never misses, but can only be used once. 07:02 disarming traps is awesome, never thought of doing that before 07:02 Be careful. 07:04 Andrio: don't rangers easily disarm traps? 07:04 maybe, yeah. 07:04 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 20000 points, T:1655, killed by a fire ant 07:09 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:17 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 07:20 [hdf-au] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 74 points, T:233, killed by a fox 07:24 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 25000 points, T:2341, killed by a gnomish wizard 07:29 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:29 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:31 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 15000 points, T:1280, killed by a skeleton 07:35 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 15000 points, T:707, killed by a gnome lord 07:37 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 07:49 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:52 [hdf-au] [dnh] pityhero (Elf-Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:43838 07:53 -!- fadein has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:05 -!- nexalam has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:10 Moult: if you're explore mode testing you can use !setmintc to prevent livelogs from happening under a certain turn amount, so you can set it to something high to catch everything 08:12 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:10916 08:14 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:46842 08:18 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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Fiend of Earth, on T:23250 10:04 rangers are fun - they're sort of weak like wizards, but don't have an overpowered force bolt, so it takes them a few hits 10:06 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:23319 10:06 on the other hand, they can wear armour and get their AC down low 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] largo (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3522 10:08 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:23550 10:09 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Garland, on T:23604 10:09 -!- leogorerd has joined #hardfought 10:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Cntblast (Kni Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +3 dragonhide armor", on T:36932 10:11 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Bin Eth Fem Non) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:989 10:11 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed Chaos, on T:23663 10:12 didn't quite succeed in the protection racket, got there at xlvl 2 10:12 but DR 3 is good enough 10:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] largo (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 8 arrows on an altar, on T:3762 10:13 amateurhour: DR? 10:13 oh nvm dead 10:13 lol 10:13 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Bin Eth Fem Non), 565 points, T:1049, killed by a cobra 10:13 dnh and ndnh split ac out into armour class and damage reduction 10:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law), 4058 points, T:4040, killed by a hobbit, while sleeping 10:20 [hdf-us] [evil] Cntblast (Kni Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:37004 10:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 348 points, T:1545, killed by a dwarf 10:28 [hdf-us] [evil] Cntblast (Kni Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide hawaiian shirt", on T:37067 10:29 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:48941 10:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 570 points, T:839, killed by a crossbow bolt 10:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Automobile (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:10923 10:32 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 25000 points, T:5155, killed by a white dragon hatchling 10:34 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2646 10:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:668 10:39 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 20000 points, T:1768, killed by a gnome lord 10:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 444 points, T:1204, killed by a poisonous corpse 10:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1255 10:42 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 5000 points, T:365, quit 10:47 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:288, killed by touching The Magic Mirror of Merlin 10:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law), 580 points, T:2150, killed by a wand 10:49 -!- fadein has joined #hardfought 10:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 706 points, T:1911, killed by a dwarf 10:55 -!- fadein has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 885 points, T:519, killed by a killer bee 10:56 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 10000 points, T:804, killed by a long worm 10:57 -!- fadein has joined #hardfought 10:58 [hdf-us] [spl] leogorerd (Dra Dro Fem Cha), 698 points, T:2553, overpowered by a kitten 11:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2339 11:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:1026 11:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2108 points, T:1059, killed by a manes 11:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1421 11:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3826 11:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Ana Hum Mal Neu) was given their Quest, on T:18652 11:11 [hdf-us] [spl] leogorerd (Dra Dro Fem Cha), 841 points, T:1779, struck down by a grizzly bear 11:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 496 points, T:1656, killed by a homunculus 11:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 849 points, T:205, killed by a goblin 11:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:6736 11:22 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 30000 points, T:2206, killed by a crossbow bolt 11:23 <@post163> !role 11:23 @post163: gnoll ranger 11:25 [hdf-us] [gnoll] post163 (Ran Elf Mal Neu), 100000 points, T:210, killed by a rock piercer 11:25 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby violet dragon 11:26 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Mal Cha), 118 points, T:132, slipped while mounting a saddled baby green dragon 11:26 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby white dragon 11:27 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Fem Cha), 74 points, T:122, slipped while mounting a saddled baby red dragon 11:28 [hdf-us] [ndnh] post163 (Nob Hum Fem Neu), 26 points, T:32, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:29 [hdf-us] [ace] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 11:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 297 points, T:142, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:30 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 11:32 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Cha), 246 points, T:385, killed by a jackal 11:32 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Dwa Nbn Neu) murdered their faithful kitten, on T:1 11:34 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Mal Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:51159 11:34 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:51162 11:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 3249 points, T:2136, killed by a little dog 11:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Ana Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:19379 11:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Ana Hum Mal Neu), 178311 points, T:19384, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted trooper 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 294 points, T:671, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 11:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:103 11:40 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 15000 points, T:1043, killed by a dingo 11:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 65 points, T:174, killed by a jackal 11:42 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:217, killed by a little dart 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Mal Neu) completed his quest without incident, on T:51397 11:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed dragonhide Marauder's Map", on T:68753 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:3599 11:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +3 helm of brilliance named PhD.", got "a greased etched helmet named PhD.", on T:3616 11:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 495 points, T:1840, died of starvation, while fainted 11:54 -!- leogorerd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 11:54 @v?mountain centaur 11:54 mountain centaur (C) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 20 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 10 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Attacks: 1d10 weapon physical, 1d6 kick physical, 1d6 kick physical | Alignment: -3 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, infravisible 11:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:4929 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4933 11:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 249 points, T:1006, killed by a goblin 11:57 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Val Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed Eye of the Aethiopica", on T:51934 11:58 @v?zruty 11:58 zruty (z) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 8 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 3 | Attacks: 3d4 claw physical, 3d4 claw physical, 3d6 bite physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, infravisible 11:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:34482 12:00 The gnomish wizard casts a spell! Your legs feel better. 12:00 gee thanks 12:01 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 25000 points, T:1814, killed by an orc-captain 12:02 The ape stops momentarily and appears to cringe. -> means? 12:02 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Dwa Nbn Neu), 36 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of earth 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 15508 points, T:5783, killed by an Elvenking 12:05 well, RIP 12:05 this one has good stuff if it leaves bones 12:08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wy-W-pYlds 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Arc Hum Fem Law), 309 points, T:1117, killed by a sewer rat 12:09 nabru: I think the monster cringing is when it steps on a squeaky board and you can see it but are deaf 12:09 ah, makes sense 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1669 points, T:2778, killed by an Uruk-hai 12:14 [hdf-eu] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2264 points, T:1867, killed by a snake 12:23 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 30000 points, T:2180, killed by a dwarf queen 12:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 338 points, T:582, killed by a giant bat 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) found Sting on the floor, on T:36168 12:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 455 points, T:1109, killed by a giant bat 12:32 [hdf-au] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 500 points, T:952, killed by a kobold lord, while sleeping 12:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:19067 12:39 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:36399 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:36402 12:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu), 5777 points, T:5402, killed by the Goblin King 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh4] ken (crysknives) (Val Hum Fem Law), 34231 points, T:2912, burned by a tower of flame 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:36415 12:44 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Hum Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:14882 12:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) found Fire Brand carried by a monster, on T:36507 12:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) wished for "the blessed fixed +3 tie-dye shirt of shambhala", on T:19964 12:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:36644 12:55 [hdf-au] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1257 points, T:2300, killed by an owlbear 12:55 -!- leogorerd has joined #hardfought 12:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3108 12:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible high priestess of Moloch, on T:36655 12:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 4798 points, T:3135, killed by a gnomish wizard 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:36671 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Arc Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2577 13:02 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu), 2282 points, T:2024, poisoned by a giant spider 13:04 [hdf-eu] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed SamG's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:1597 13:07 [hdf-eu] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1896 points, T:2143, killed by a giant beetle 13:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] wintergalaxy88 (And-Ana And Fem Neu) killed Axus, on T:20308 13:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:72 13:16 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:46, killed by a gnome 13:17 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 1616 points, T:2187, killed by a burning scroll 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 322 points, T:535, killed by a falling rock 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 27 points, T:257, killed by a falling rock 13:22 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Kni Hum Fem Law), 15000 points, T:967, killed by a gnomish wizard 13:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Hill (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:36914 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 564 points, T:1562, killed by a rabid rat 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Arc Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", got "a greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:4401 13:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 332 points, T:1344, killed by a small mimic 13:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 243 points, T:860, killed by a hobbit 13:40 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 50 points, T:41, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1992 13:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Arc Hum Fem Law) became literate by engraving "XXXXX", on T:6717 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed wmahan's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1986 13:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Arc Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6895 13:50 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 40000 points, T:2558, killed by an invisible gnome queen 13:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1134 points, T:1334, killed by a wererat 13:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3092 14:01 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 20000 points, T:1683, killed by a gnoll 14:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 1922 points, T:1437, killed by a rothe 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 775 points, T:991, killed by a dwarf 14:05 -!- leogorerd has quit [Quit: Client closed] 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 14:14 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 15000 points, T:1494, killed by an orc zombie 14:17 [hdf-us] [gnoll] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:18 [hdf-us] [gnoll] post163 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 50000 points, T:46, slipped while mounting a saddled ram 14:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 3565 points, T:3123, killed by a hobbit 14:21 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 15000 points, T:1284, killed by a bugbear 14:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Cav Gno Mal Neu), 1260 points, T:2967, killed by a large mimic 14:25 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 bone orcish daggers named $4 {+0} on an altar, on T:5101 14:26 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 10000 points, T:827, killed by a hobgoblin 14:27 bah, I think my habit of searching instead of waiting carried over from acehack 14:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 2474 points, T:1829, killed by a dwarf 14:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] xNHRN (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) bestowed with Mirror Brand by Anhur, on T:54863 14:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 5 points, T:96, killed by a jackal 14:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1103 points, T:2115, killed by a white unicorn 14:33 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5560 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] xtof54 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", got "a greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:8984 14:38 -!- leogorerd has joined #hardfought 14:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 1847 points, T:2254, killed by a giant ant 14:40 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 14:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 233 points, T:875, killed by a bat 14:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 377 points, T:782, killed by a boulder 14:48 !PoM 14:48 APic: The moon is waxing crescent; full moon in 11 days. 14:48 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:52 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 14:53 [hdf-eu] [un] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 436 points, T:871, killed by a dwarf 14:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Ana Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2423 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:13287 15:02 oh darn splice got rid of the ghoul race 15:05 <@post163> I found ghouls weird to play since they could not eat fresh corpses. I'd have to carry around kills for a little while before eating them, and lichens were only useful for pacifying cats and dogs or taming horses. 15:06 I tried playing ghoul monk a few times and going vegan also meant going foodless 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed WizzyTheWeird's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4513 15:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 3894 points, T:4773, killed by a rothe 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 197 points, T:268, killed by a crossbow bolt 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:397 15:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:51138 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Plane of Earth, on T:51138 15:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3476 15:19 -!- Merlek has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Plane of Air, on T:51171 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Arc Hum Fem Law) destroyed OpticSugar's ghost, the former Bandit, on T:9614 15:21 -!- Merlek has joined #hardfought 15:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2866 15:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Plane of Fire, on T:51262 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Plane of Water, on T:51289 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Tou Hum Mal Neu) genocided class ;, on T:51298 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3674 points, T:3602, killed by a watchman 15:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Mad Inc Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:7769 15:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:51566 15:28 <@Bubbles> I actually thought of an idea where monks of carnivorous species were allowed to eat meat, as it was a physiological requirement, but they got an alignment penalty for eating at all if not at "Weak" or lower hunger status. Not sure whether there's anywhere to use it, though, as I don't think many variants, if any, have playable species that cannot eat vegetarian food if not polymorphed. 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:51579 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed nmlkj's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2832 15:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 2199 points, T:2892, killed by a bolt of lightning 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:42, killed by a jackal 15:32 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 81 points, T:164, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 20 points, T:1, caught himself in his own ball of lightning 15:32 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Mer Nbn Neu) murdered their faithful kitten, on T:1 15:32 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Mer Nbn Neu), 20 points, T:1, caught themself in their own ball of cold 15:33 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine (2nd time), on T:51637 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2764 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Rog Hob Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:66691 15:34 -!- b93 has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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(www.adiirc.com)] 17:14 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 20000 points, T:1276, killed by a rothe 17:16 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:17 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed the Lady of Pain, on T:26888 17:17 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 17:19 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) was given their Quest, on T:27151 17:20 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 17:21 [hdf-us] [gnoll] Abdlabl (Arc Hum Fem Law), 15000 points, T:1350, killed by a gnome lord 17:31 -!- sumi80m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33 -!- sumi80m has joined #hardfought 17:33 [hdf-us] [spl] leogorerd (Sam Inf Fem Law), 874 points, T:1004, slaughtered by a giant rat 17:35 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:42 YANI: Keep a counter on each shopkeeper which is "number of times a pet has picked up a shop-owned item in their shop". Every time this increments, use it as an increasing chance that the shopkeeper will become aggressive towards pets picking up their wares, with something like "Kabalebo shouts "Hey! Drop that!" at Fluffy. Fluffy drops ." 17:43 Cool one. I think I might've considered something vaguely similar, but not nearly as well thought out. 17:43 Also, recurse into containers and check for shop-owned items in them, adding each to the counter, to stop someone from stuffing a sack full of scrolls in a scroll shop or whatever. 17:44 what about monsters picking up stuff? 17:44 like that hill orc horde robbing the shop 17:44 depends, it could use the same counter, or the shk could ignore it for non-pets. 17:45 also I feel the point at which they decide to put their foot down should be roughly proportional to the shop area 17:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] peterg (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:7049 17:46 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:29207 17:47 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:47 They say that mom-and-pop stores have lower tolerance for thieves. 17:47 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:50 well that but also the more practical effect that if most shks don't care until you've stolen about 10 items, then you can easily rob everything from minetown 17:50 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 17:51 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:55 Correct. 17:55 Forces you to be more selective about what you have monsters steal. 18:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law), 9989 points, T:9465, killed by a soldier ant 18:05 -!- Semilg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:05 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 18:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7084 18:11 [hdf-us] [slth] dr (Wiz Dro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed rustproof +2 pick of the grave", on T:9177 18:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", got "a scroll labeled GNIK SISI VLE", on T:7668 18:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed bag of holding", got "a greased bag", on T:7669 18:14 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:31484 18:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", got "a perforated amulet", on T:7682 18:17 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2711 18:39 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:33110 18:40 [hdf-us] [spl] mradosav (Val Hum Fem Neu), 562 points, T:1375, offed by a giant fly 18:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 6270 points, T:7632, killed by a soldier ant, while praying 18:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6728 18:50 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Hmnyw-Pharaoh, on T:33554 19:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:7222 19:08 -!- Semilg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:11 YANI: In xNetHack, if you attempt to open a door that turns out to be a mimic, and the mimic in question is large enough, have it "fall on top of you" for some damage in addition to sticking. 19:11 ...actually that might warrant a whole new m monster at that point, hmm. 19:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) destroyed WizzyTheWeird's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:8307 19:11 Umbire: how do you be selective about what monsters steal? don't they just kinda walk around randomly and pick up stuff randomly? 19:12 I am talking about pets, Moult. 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Goran (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1944 19:24 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:25 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 19:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Goran (Pri Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by an imp), on T:2031 19:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Goran (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed oh6's ghost, the former Aborigine, on T:2178 19:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law), 9840 points, T:8333, killed by a stone giant, while moving through the air 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Goran (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1882 points, T:2380, killed by a watch captain 19:46 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana Hum Mal Cha) killed the first wraithworm, on T:27774 19:50 <@nabru> !ping 19:50 @nabru: Pong! 19:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2823 19:54 Umbire: yes, can you control pets? I thought you can just block the door and wait until the pet picks up something, then try and leave and hope the pet follows you 19:54 You can also arrange the contents of the shop in a way where a pet is more likely to pick up certain items. 19:55 Umbire: ah right OK, I thought there was some way of controlling them I wasn't aware of 19:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Snuffburger (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 423 points, T:807, killed by a steel crossbow bolt 19:58 bhaak: ah OK good to know. Do you know whether it is a known bug to be fixed? 20:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1535 20:04 -!- sumi80m_ has joined #hardfought 20:05 [hdf-us] [slshm] hydrowheel (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 3444 points, T:2743, killed by something while blind 20:07 <@nabru> !lastgame hydrowheel 20:07 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hydrowheel/slashem/dumplog/1659216621.slashem.txt 20:07 -!- sumi80m has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:07 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) signified by divine providence, was chosen to carry Excalibur, on T:4625 20:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2239 20:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5207 20:16 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed Glasya, on T:35674 20:20 [hdf-us] [slshm] hydrowheel (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 571 points, T:929, killed by an echidna 20:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a gold amulet of reflection, on T:13433 20:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Goran (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 683 points, T:2308, killed by a pony 20:30 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 20:31 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:7468 20:41 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:14133 20:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] pilgrim (Arc Clk Fem Law), 585 points, T:637, killed by a gnome zombie 21:02 -!- quotepilgrim has joined #hardfought 21:03 -!- quotepilgrim has left #hardfought 21:09 @Shadow_Rider Did you just discover that during your Jedi ascension? 21:11 Probably the best way to control pets is to put cursed stuff on spaces where you don't want them to step. 21:13 <@Shadow_Rider> i probably did 21:13 <@Shadow_Rider> i am just searching the repo for this stuff tho 21:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Arc Trt Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:16825 21:20 Oh, right. 21:20 Fuck. 21:20 Still have to reconcile the dragon stuff, but also the fucking... simpletabs thing paxed whipped up isn't going to fit all that shit. 21:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] jizosaves (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 silver dragon scale mail", got "a greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:5286 21:21 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed Daemon, on T:35797 21:26 <@Shadow_Rider> whats simpletabs? 21:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:29 The thing I've been using for certain articles. 21:29 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Naga 21:32 <@Shadow_Rider> aha 21:32 <@Shadow_Rider> yes i find those interesting, tbh im unsure if i like it better 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh4] ken (crysknives) (Val Hum Fem Law), 14208 points, T:660, killed by a kitten 21:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 6291 points, T:3237, killed by a zruty 21:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 69 points, T:208, killed by a sewer rat 21:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 660 points, T:972, killed by a crossbow bolt 21:48 [hdf-us] [nh4] ken (crysknives) (Val Hum Fem Law), 35938 points, T:4019, killed by a water demon 21:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 474 points, T:1068, killed by a gnome lord 21:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7620 22:02 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:37101 22:03 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:37172 22:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Goran (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 243 points, T:649, killed by a coyote 22:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3842 22:05 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3852 22:06 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (genetic engineers), on T:4011 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh4] ken (crysknives) (Val Hum Fem Law), 34372 points, T:3939, killed by a large cat 22:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a hobbit, on T:3547 22:08 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:37372 22:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Pir Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Atma Weapon", on T:3264 22:12 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 22:16 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 5851 points, T:5142, killed by a tiger 22:18 never thought of using the travel command in sokoban before, watching others really helps me learn new things 22:19 [hdf-us] [nh4] ken (crysknives) (Val Hum Fem Law), 34125 points, T:2787, killed by a water moccasin 22:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Pir Hum Fem Cha), 13564 points, T:3515, killed by a gnome king 22:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Goran (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 430 points, T:1785, killed by a homunculus, while sleeping 22:24 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:38692 22:29 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 22:30 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Death, on T:38890 22:30 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 604 points, T:4178, killed by a killer bee 22:30 !gt a 22:32 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Famine, on T:38982 22:32 it seems to me that by the time i hit sokoban level 2, although i can clear it if i play very carefully, it's still a risky move and i should head back maybe to the mines to level up and get some more arrows and amor 22:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5635 22:33 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) destroyed Pestilence, on T:39041 22:33 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 22:34 -!- elenmirie has quit [Client Quit] 22:35 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha) killed the Lugribossk of Ilsensine, on T:39074 22:37 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Ana Elf Fem Cha), 7616062 points, T:39148, ascended, having saved the future https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/notdnethack/dumplog/1659168849.ndnh.txt 22:37 <@Shadow_Rider> yay malor 22:38 <@Shadow_Rider> light work 22:39 <@malor> thanks. That run was hard due to a lot of bad moves I did. I spiked my insight really high and had to fight through the goat room to get to the "thought merchants". And early polymorph trap wrecked my initial armor so I was dangerously close to killing myself with epic bounces from my raygun 🙂 But that combo is a lot easier than I thought. Also I could be wrong, maybe it is the fastest Anachronaught combo if done correctly? 22:41 <@Shadow_Rider> well that was my impression although no one else seemed to be buying it 22:42 <@malor> I didn't realize that the raygun on "heat" only uses 2 charges and does a ton of damage. I thought "heat" would just suck, but it doesn't. So you have plenty of easy quick killing power. More than enough to sprint to the quest and then through the rest of the game. 22:42 <@Shadow_Rider> yep heat is nuts 22:42 <@Shadow_Rider> it absolutely gets you to the quest, sometimes i didn't even have to charge it 22:42 <@malor> that was definitely my personal record for most power packs used since I charged the raygun a lot. 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh4] Milamber (margmaster) (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 21795 points, T:1297, killed by a little dog 22:43 <@malor> since I don't speed run, I was just going through normally until I reached the quest. And even after the quest I used the raygun sometimes as it was pretty good. 22:44 <@malor> Oddly, I don't think the raygun trains "firearms" even though it uses the skill supposedly. 22:44 <@malor> my firearm was still basic at the end of the game. 22:44 <@Shadow_Rider> death and disint are good at all points of the game :) 22:44 <@malor> despite using the raygun a lot. 22:44 <@malor> higher level monsters dodged the disintegration. But it did work on the "Elder Brain" 🙂 22:47 higher skill = fire multiple rays per shot 22:47 sad to not advance it 22:47 should have picked up a gun on the quest to train it 22:47 <@malor> by the time I do the quest, I don't need it since the game is 99% done 🙂 22:47 <@malor> but I will keep that strategy in mind. 22:57 !ping 22:57 nabru: Pong! 22:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:8082 23:01 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Und Tro Fem Cha) killed Count Dracula, on T:29058 23:04 [hdf-us] [nh4] ken (crysknives) (Val Hum Fem Law), 54483 points, T:6092, killed by a giant zombie 23:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 224 points, T:715, killed by a gas spore's explosion 23:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 229 points, T:759, killed by a small mimic 23:18 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Und Tro Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:30135 23:19 Oh, right. Troll Undead Slayer. 23:19 How's that working out. 23:20 <@Shadow_Rider> well its served its purpose of being wildly overpowered in the early game 23:20 <@Shadow_Rider> the drawback of not having fire resistance is starting to reveal itself 23:20 <@Shadow_Rider> just cleared castle without fire res or cold res and it def could have gone badly 23:21 No cold res either? 23:21 That a racial thing or just unlucky. 23:22 Also, is fire resistance suppressed if you have an extrinsic source? 23:22 Or is it just "no means of gaining the intrinsic"? 23:22 <@Shadow_Rider> cold res was just unlucky 23:22 <@Shadow_Rider> and im pretty sure extrinsic sources dont work 23:22 Huh. 23:23 That's a "fuck you if you get to Gehennom" kinda thing. 23:23 <@Shadow_Rider> i checked the source and there is a whole exception for trolls 23:23 <@Shadow_Rider> im going to try to see if poly works 23:23 Whoof. 23:24 Not a dealbreaker by any means, just curious as to how you're meant to deal if they suppress extrinsic sources as well. 23:24 <@Shadow_Rider> yep 23:24 <@Shadow_Rider> #define Fire_resistance ((HFire_resistance || EFire_resistance || \ resists_fire(&youmonst)) && !Race_if(PM_TROLL)) 23:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] lapis (Mad Inc Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1344 23:25 Wacky. 23:25 <@Shadow_Rider> hows your firefighter going? 23:26 It's not. 23:26 Taking a break because of that dogshit floppy disk bug costing me a Grund clear. 23:26 <@Shadow_Rider> ah 23:26 And I had some scare moments before that with orcs zapping wands of striking. 23:27 <@Shadow_Rider> yeah that stinks 23:27 So, not exactly confident in my instinct to avoid being lined up a second time. 23:27 There's other completely unrelated shit going on that just has me in no mood to play at all, though. 23:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1729 23:28 <@Shadow_Rider> ah sorry to hear :( 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:10137 23:29 You probably heard me mention (off-hand or otherwise) that the specific monsters in question literally can't be genocided either. 23:29 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Und Tro Fem Cha) wished for "blessed ring of polymorph control", on T:32465 23:29 Which reminds me, is that whole deal contingent on the bug/heisenbug/whatever-the-fuck dying in a way that would normally leave a corpse? 23:30 <@Shadow_Rider> not sure 23:30 <@Shadow_Rider> its the fact that they drop the floppies item or whatever 23:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:16635 23:30 Yes, I know about the floppies, but I was wondering if it was like a unicorn horn-type dead. 23:30 deal* even 23:30 <@Shadow_Rider> could be 23:31 My plan, other than just leaving it the fuck alone from now on should one spawn, was to try stoning the fucker instead and see if that made any real difference. 23:31 Actually hold on. 23:31 @lt?bug 23:31 bug (x) | Lvl: 8 | Diff: 9 | Spd: 10 | Res: shock | Confers: shock | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 2d8 touch shock | Alignment: 0 | Flags: amorphous, conceals, breathless, thick hide, oviparous, passes-bars 23:31 Not resistant, good. 23:31 <@Shadow_Rider> i think thats overkill 23:31 On that note, things don't de-poly if you stone them, right? 23:31 <@Shadow_Rider> i just scare them away 23:31 <@Shadow_Rider> no they should be stoned for good 23:31 Riiight. 23:32 <@Shadow_Rider> i would also say you seem to have gotten unreasonably unlucky with the save restore 23:32 <@Shadow_Rider> usually i just get sent back not that many turns 23:32 I mind that less than I mind having to restore the save to begin with. 23:32 <@Shadow_Rider> so sometimes ill just restore and kill until it works 23:32 <@Shadow_Rider> understandable 23:32 Also, this is more about future science experiments than what I actually plan to do in that game. 23:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] laura (Rog Orc Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:7229 23:33 <@Shadow_Rider> well it seems i did not get fire resistance from polymorphing 23:33 And granted, I mind that even less than the fact that it caught me completely unawares. 23:33 I hadn't been aware at the time it was more than just heisenbugs with that problem. 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 668 points, T:969, killed by a jackal 23:36 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:3204 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gauntlets of power", got "a greased pair of riding gloves", on T:3298 23:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1911 points, T:2224, killed by a dwarf 23:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first item, on T:11499