00:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 1527 points, T:2095, killed by a rabid rat, while praying 00:09 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 00:18 @lt?mind flayer 00:18 mind flayer (h) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 15 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 90 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Attacks: 1d4 weapon physical, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int | Alignment: -8 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, flies, seeinvis, infravisible 00:18 @l?mind flayer 00:18 mind flayer (h) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 17 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 90 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Attacks: 1d4 weapon physical, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int, 2d1 tentacle drain int | Alignment: -8 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, flies, seeinvis, infravisible 00:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] laura (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 222 points, T:903, killed by a kobold, while fainted from lack of food 00:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] laura (Rog Orc Fem Cha) found Demonbane on the floor, on T:283 00:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] delisma (Hea Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1687 00:52 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 00:55 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:04 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 29352 points, T:11505, killed by a fire elemental, while praying 01:37 -!- winny has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 01:39 -!- winny has joined #hardfought 01:40 [hdf-au] [dnh] pityhero (Elf-Wiz Elf Mal Neu) was given the Unstoppable, on T:12068 01:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:27803 01:45 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Cor Dop Fem Neu) killed Krooella the Kobold Queen, on T:16679 01:45 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Cor Dop Fem Neu) killed Kroo the Kobold King, on T:16683 01:46 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:51 [hdf-us] [slth] shadowrider38 (Cor Dop Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 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05:46 can't say I've ever done it tbh 05:47 doesn't seem like a bad idea though as the alignment penalty (if any) is not really a big deal at all 05:50 digging up graves can be quite profitable 05:51 you can find all sorts of stuff, even got a magic marker once 05:51 however, it will usually be cursed 05:53 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 05:54 amateurhour: i'm chaotic, so i don't see any alignment penalty? 05:55 Grassy: sure, if there's something interesting i can uncurse it i guess :) 05:55 <@hackemslashem> I don't have an Etherpad yet, but I made a note of your ideas last night 05:55 @hackemslashem: Message from Umbire at 2022-07-26 18:36 EDT: DM me on Discord and send me a link to your Etherpad 05:59 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 292 points, T:522, killed by a dwarf 06:02 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 121 points, T:74, killed by falling down a mine shaft 06:02 lol, I fell down a shaft and died, just like that 06:03 -!- hackemslashem has joined #hardfought 06:06 Grassy: ouch :( instakills are rough 06:06 nice, found medusa's level! 06:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] nob (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed marker", got "a magic marker", on T:23076 06:07 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:10 damn instakill from full hp? 06:10 !lastgame Grasshopper 06:10 amateurhour: [hdf-eu] (sorry, no dump exists for nh363:Grasshopper) | [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grasshopper/nethack/dumplog/1627134745.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grasshopper/nethack/dumplog/1658916035.nh.html 06:10 maybe not quite full hp but still 06:13 wizards are squishy :( 06:27 -!- Semilg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:28 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 06:28 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Merlek (Ran Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a tripe ration on an altar, on T:3777 06:30 -!- tromix has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:35 [hdf-au] [dnh] pityhero (Elf-Wiz Elf Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:26121 06:38 Grassy: i once had a game lasting 4 turns where i died to a shaft 06:38 and it even left bones 06:39 nice 06:41 On the floor you landed on? 06:43 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Merlek (Ran Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:4330 06:45 -!- tromix has joined #hardfought 06:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Dispater, on T:71255 06:50 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3650 06:57 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:58 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:23374 07:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Inc Mal Law), 349 points, T:285, killed by a gnome lord 07:05 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Merlek (Ran Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 shield of reflection", on T:5636 07:06 [hdf-au] [xnh] delisma (Kni Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful pony, on T:729 07:14 [hdf-au] [xnh] delisma (Kni Hum Mal Law), 808 points, T:1026, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted dwarf queen 07:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:72295 07:19 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:33086 07:20 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 07:21 [hdf-au] [dnh] pityhero (Elf-Wiz Elf Mal Neu) was given the Golden Sword of Y'ha-Talla, on T:33450 07:21 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Dwa Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 07:21 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) was bestowed with Magicbane by Thoth, on T:5339 07:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 8 points, T:73, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:23 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Nbn Cha), 84 points, T:190, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:23 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Fem Law), 66 points, T:22, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 238 points, T:132, killed by an arrow 07:39 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:2116, rt[0:16:58] 07:47 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3415, rt[0:25:06] 07:52 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:41457 07:52 \o/ 07:53 nice! 07:53 mobileuser: thanks! this elf wizard is going on very, very well! 07:53 Castle next? 07:53 i think i learned a lot from the valk run 07:53 mobileuser: i'm not sure if i'm strong enough for that, but yes i'll slowly make my way to the castle 07:53 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 07:53 Hi there. 07:53 Umbire: hey hey! 07:53 it's now safe to take off my towel, right? now she's dead? i forget 07:54 you have reflection, you didn't need the towel anyway ;-) 07:54 Yeah, it's mostly an insurance policy - reflection sources typically instakill her 07:55 unless you are invisible 07:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:55 Yeah, she has to be able to see you for that whole deal to work 07:55 mobileuser: i was invisible 07:55 And frankly, doing it the old-fashioned way is usually trivial at that point 07:56 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Enchantress (level 14), on T:25530 07:56 Moult, for completeness: it was still safe not to use the towel even when invisible 07:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] bezaban (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 136 points, T:1248, killed by a dwarf 07:56 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:57 mobileuser: ah ok :) thanks! 07:58 @?Medusa 07:58 Medusa (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 25 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison petrification | Confers: poison | MR: 50 | Generates: unique | AC: 2 | Attacks: 2d4 weapon physical, 1d8 claw physical, 0d0 gaze petrification, 1d6 bite drain str | Alignment: -15 | Flags: omnivore, flies, swims, amphibious, poisonous, nopoly, infravisible 07:58 Per above, can't see invisible 08:00 takes me 9 hits to meelee a dragon vs my valk's 4 hits :( 08:01 You did Quest, right? 08:01 You should have a couple of decent offensive spells by now - melee is a Thing You Can Do still but naturally you're not gonna reach Valk levels and that's okay 08:02 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed the invisible Anaraxis the Black, on T:25889 08:02 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) found the Eye of the Aethiopica carried by a monster, on T:25889 08:02 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25893 08:03 Umbire: i haven't done the quest yet, so although my magic missile is very strong, i have limited PP 08:03 Ah 08:03 What XL? 08:04 Umbire: xl13 08:04 hey why does beholder mention I entered the Bigroom but not that I entered the quest? 08:04 oh wow, castle directly under medusa. 08:04 Not uncommon 08:05 raisse: I don't think it livelogs you first finding the Quest, just when you're first given it if that, I think? 08:05 interesting, the castle can come before medusa? 08:05 but I was given the quest! (and I have DONE the quest!) 08:05 Moult: Not in vanilla 08:05 And it didn't livelog when you were given it? 08:06 Moult: nope but there can be levels in between 08:06 Umbire: no, it didn't 08:06 Moult: No, the Castle's always after Medusa, but with varying levels in between 08:06 Sometimes it can be directly the next floor like in your case 08:06 maze or room-and-corridor levels or both 08:06 raisse: Ah. Annoying 08:06 ah ok, i misunderstood the range here https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Mazes_of_Menace 08:07 the ranges overlap but medusa is always above the castle 08:07 I don't care about livelogging much, I was just surprised/intrigued 08:08 Notice e.g. the Castle and Valley 08:09 Umbire: good point 08:09 VotD is always after Castle, so its range of floors is gonna be the same as Castle + 1 floor 08:09 + moved 1 floor deeper* even 08:09 I was wondering whether a non-event like the bigroom was being livelogged, and a real event like being given the quest wasn't 08:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 655 points, T:2339, killed by a little dog 08:10 i don't think i'm strong enough to tackle the castle. 2 liches, 1 demilich, golden naga, 3 trolls, definitely not enough PP to cover it all 08:10 Well what's your weapons looking like? 08:10 Remember, this is NetHack, you don't have to make it a direct fight if you don't want to 08:10 Umbire: magicbane, a few regular unchanted daggers, and magic missile 08:11 enchantment on magicbane? 08:11 mobileuser: +2 08:11 ok, the school of +2 ;-) I always try for +7 myself. Opinions differ. 08:12 Could you get a better weapon and enchant it up? 08:12 Umbire: well, the liches will see me sooner or later, and may summon nasties 08:12 I am a Magicbane fan 08:12 <@malor> Question: In Slashthem what should be the best enchantment level for Magicbane? 08:13 I'd imagine same? 08:13 <@malor> With the flat damage bonus I was wondering if that altered the math somewhat? 08:13 mobileuser: i really don't get it, the damage magicbane does is very low compared to magic missile. the special effects are nice, but you need to be adjacent to the monster which is risky 08:13 malor is Slashthem magicbane different from vanilla? 08:13 It does, but not significantly - you're still making the same decision at the core of "maximize chance of extra effects or go for more damage" 08:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 32 points, T:243, killed by a sewer rat 08:14 Moult: lichen and demilichen are pretty unlikely to get summon nasties 08:14 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:14 +7 magicbane does plenty damage imo 08:14 Moult: You're allowed to swing your weapon as often as you like, and there's a colossal number of popcorn monsters 08:14 Magicbane is not a weapon you necessarily seek to pump damage out of 08:14 <@malor> just the flat damage bonus. 08:15 You can if you want, sure 08:15 [hdf-us] [ace] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 53328 points, T:8372, killed by an ogre 08:15 well magicbane fucked me here 08:15 mobileuser: https://anydice.com/program/2a249 08:15 hothraxxa: what happened 08:15 Unfortunate timing 08:15 hit an ocgre with 4 hp left, he didn't die or flee 08:15 malor I don't know, I would still get it to +7 08:15 killed me 08:15 But very generally it's a weapon you use to hobble stronger opponents via the extra effects rather than just winning via sheer numbers 08:16 Oh you lowrolled, bad times 08:16 -!- hackemslashem has joined #hardfought 08:16 acehakc rng really really REALLY hates me 08:16 worst streak of shitty rolls ever, no exaggeration 08:16 <@malor> ok, I'll go for max enchant. Thanks mobileuser. It's funny, I wanted to ask about magicbane in slashthem and I come over here and that's the discussion already 🙂 08:16 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Client Quit] 08:17 moult of course your spells do more damage :-) 08:17 ^ 08:17 did i mention that my pet had 38 straight missed on a grid bug? 08:17 Umbire: hmm, the risk is getting next to them, and then getting whomped with already low HP stats 08:17 You're a wizard, it stands to reason 08:17 misses 08:17 Then don't! 08:17 moult your AC is fine 08:18 The role's already fairly built for you to mow down stuff before it gets to you - for the stuff you can't, MBane is solid on offense but provides even more defensive utility 08:18 Umbire: ok i understand 08:18 MR, ability to scare/stun/cancel, athame that can engrave a one-move Elbereth 08:18 let me try and do a bit of the castle, maybe won't open the drawbridge just yet, just clear what's in front 08:19 hopefully the liches inside will leave me alone for this portion 08:19 <@malor> In most variants your power doesn't regenerate fast enough to just spam spells, so judiciously using your weapon is a way to manage your spell point pool. 08:19 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 08:19 the golden nagas will be more dangerous 08:19 morning 08:19 And again, since you're not a Valkyrie, you're gonna be more tactical about what you allow within melee range 08:19 Hi K2 08:19 Umbire: ok, i'll try my best :) 08:19 if only vanilla would lower the quest XL requirement! 08:20 [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Wiz Ill Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:12234 08:20 and i'm close to XL14. if i get to XL14, i might go the quest first 08:20 once you have the eye... 08:20 I thought it did? 08:20 <@malor> I'm still doing pretty well on that game I promised to ascend! 08:20 Also you can hang on quest home and fish for wraiths a bit 08:20 in dnh I think magicbane at +2 is the best for sure 08:20 because against magic resistant stuff it does lots of damage when the effects proc 08:21 and magic weak stuff just gets obliterated by spells 08:21 was it you who persuaded me to disenchant magicbane back to +2 in dnh? 08:21 amateurhour good to know, thx 08:21 isn't it best at +0 08:21 in dnh 08:21 I think 0-2 is the same for effects 08:21 i accidentally had enchanted it 08:22 maybe i went back to 0, i don't recall. might have been demo 08:22 <@malor> honestly in dnh magicbane might be a consideration for a nerf. It's pretty good. 08:22 mobileuser: yes i look forward to getting the eye :) 08:22 it sucks imo 08:22 Umbire I thought 3.7 only changed that you could kill the QL and still do the quest? 08:22 Probably 08:23 oh what's going on here 08:23 all the liches are gone. chameleons? or fighting between themsevles? 08:25 i also wanted to try this fireball spell >:) 08:25 show yourselves cowards! 08:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 446 points, T:1270, killed by a wererat 08:27 strategically here, going in via the back entrance is always better i think, as i'm fighting in a narrow corridor instead of a big open entrance 08:28 if you're talking about the liches in the castle I think because of the undead/living grudge the other monsters probs killed them 08:28 amateurhour: ah nice 08:28 I think that's in vanilla right..? memory is a bit hazy 08:29 [hdf-au] [dnh] pityhero (Elf-Wiz Elf Mal Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:40096 08:29 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Undead hmm not mentioned here 08:29 Because it's new in 3.7. 08:30 Liches can kill things to make undead, and there's a mutual grudge between them and applicable targets. 08:31 ok, i think i'll continue this game tomorrow, it's getting late and i'd like to do this castle carefully through the back :) 08:32 only 37pp right now, so that's only ~4 bolts 08:44 considering it, if i go through the back, with a =oRegeneration and =oProtection, i may be able to just meelee the 4 dragons and conserve PP there 08:47 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:51 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:10088 08:52 [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Wiz Ill Mal Cha) wished for "blessed greased rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:13857 08:52 As if you need the Int boost. 08:53 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 08:58 <@malor> The reason I wished for that is that I didn't have any helmet that I could wear that didn't give me a spell failure chance, so this solved that issue and got my Int up to a nice 25. 08:58 <@malor> spell failure chance seems to be higher than vanilla? Not sure. 09:00 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 16063 points, T:11071, killed by a leocrotta 09:01 <@malor> Slashthem game-play for wizards is a lot more fun than vanilla. - Most of the time (based on my 9 games) you get "sleep" as your "main attack spell" instead of "force bolt". Sleep is just more fun than force bolt and possibly more effective I think. - Your power regeneration speed is definitely less than vanilla. It's not super bad, but less. So you need to be creative with lining multiple guys up for a blast and stuff like that. 09:02 Hm. 09:02 <@malor> - the techniques are a really fun mechanic 09:02 I know the polyform for mind flayers actually can't wear helms 09:03 Also, there's always the classic elven helm lol 09:03 Though, actually dunno what other non-metal stuff there is in THEM outside of cornuthaums 09:03 [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Wiz Ill Mal Cha) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:14175 09:05 malor the pw regen rate is based on xlvl 09:05 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Fem Cha) destroyed Kas, on T:33439 09:06 and the amount regened based on int and wis or something 09:06 <@malor> Also Slashthem has "Spell of Finger". 09:07 <@malor> the Wis for Illithids is pretty low, so that's probably part of it. 09:07 Spell of wha 09:07 finger 09:08 from TNG, named after the unix command 09:10 spell of finger allows you to point at and denounce your enemies? 09:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 166 points, T:538, killed by a rabid rat 09:10 <@malor> it works similar to "wand of probing" 09:11 some of the enemies might, ahem, enjoy being fingered 09:11 Neat. 09:11 Anyway 09:14 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 584 points, T:2314, killed by a giant ant 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2536 points, T:2967, killed by an ape 09:36 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 761 points, T:2984, zombified by a dwarf zombie, while frozen by a monster's gaze 09:40 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Merlek (Ran Hum Mal Cha) had a runed dagger named Sting bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:12059 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Sam Hum Mal Law), 801 points, T:1638, killed by an arrow 09:51 [hdf-us] [ace] hothraxxa (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 30351 points, T:2730, killed by a bolt of fire 09:52 hobbits are assholes, i just want to say 09:53 ace RNG still hating on hothraxxa 09:53 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a helmet entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3457 09:53 absolutely 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (mind flayers), on T:1039 09:55 Status of Fudd (neutral): Level 1 HP 3(3) AC 6, tame. 09:55 i'm sure this one will go better 09:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Sam Hum Mal Law) found Grimtooth carried by a monster, on T:1399 09:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 6898 points, T:4385, quit 09:59 -!- winny has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:59 yeah, as i predicted. fudd has missed this sewer rat 13 times in a row 09:59 -!- winny has joined #hardfought 10:00 -!- sumi80m has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.0.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 10:00 14 10:00 but then he killed it 10:05 -!- sumi80m has joined #hardfought 10:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2136 points, T:2517, killed by a fire ant 10:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:35759 10:09 I've had maybe one or two pets die to a newt/gecko/what have you but I think what you're dealing with's something fucked 10:09 and/or possibly ingrained in the code somewhere 10:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Arc Hum Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:35772 10:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:35854 10:14 [hdf-us] [ace] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:2, killed by an arrow 10:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1 10:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 20 points, T:1, caught himself in his own ball of cold 10:14 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a system shock 10:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Arc Hum Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:36048 10:17 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Merlek (Ran Hum Mal Cha) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:14280 10:18 this bug really sucks. my pet has made a dagger vanish again 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:36062 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1388 points, T:2641, killed by lgxia the human zombie 10:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a gnome lord corpse, on T:3187 10:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3345 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Arc Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible high priestess of Moloch, on T:36149 10:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] rancat (Arc Hum Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:36154 10:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3686 10:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2454 points, T:3764, killed by an orc-captain 10:28 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Merlek (Ran Hum Mal Cha) had a long sword named Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Mars, on T:15786 10:41 ok new acehack bug 10:42 oh it's not a bug, i misread the price 10:42 wand of wishing in a shop 10:43 the rng might be warming up to me, but i suspect i'm being set up 10:43 <@Shadow_Rider> :) about time 10:44 <@Shadow_Rider> I’ve not used it before but I imagine magicbane is kinda underwhelming in slashthem 10:44 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby blue dragon 10:44 [hdf-us] [ace] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 10:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Rog Orc Fem Cha) was bestowed with Werebane by Kos, on T:23902 10:44 <@Shadow_Rider> tho that may partly be because I always converge to a melee character eventually 10:44 If so it'd mostly be due to low flat bonus and the fuckton of new weapons you also get even in just 'EM alone 10:44 Also that :B 10:46 <@Shadow_Rider> I mean when you’ve got mirror brand in the game… 10:46 lmao yeah 10:46 Oh yeah also I got the Forge in my game! 10:46 I may also have the money for it now due to a... 10:46 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Fem Cha) killed Baphomet, on T:34107 10:46 very unfortunate accident. 10:48 <@Shadow_Rider> what’s happened 10:48 I don't really wanna talk about it :[ 10:48 !booze 10:48 * Beholder flings Umbire a cup of green tea, conjured by Athame at 117 degrees Fahrenheit. 10:48 But uh, I have a nice new pair of speed boots and an artifact now 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2587 points, T:1996, killed by a bugbear 10:48 [hdf-us] [slth] post163 (Wiz Inc Mal Cha), 44 points, T:1, caught himself in his own fireball 10:48 * Umbire sips 10:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 970 points, T:1635, killed by a gecko 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 147 points, T:134, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:49 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Nbn Law), 0 points, T:22, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:50 <@Shadow_Rider> heh 10:50 <@Shadow_Rider> it didn’t get live logged? 10:50 <@Shadow_Rider> oh I see 10:51 <@Shadow_Rider> you wished for a solar 10:52 <@Shadow_Rider> sorta related I’m gonna try to use thiefbane as a main weapon this game 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3061 10:53 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Kni Cen Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 oilskin fedora", on T:34161 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3212 10:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 420 points, T:1004, killed by an explosion 10:56 Yeah 10:56 * Umbire sips 10:57 Honestly I could try Excal/Thiefbane if there isn't an alignment restriction 10:57 I'm surprised Thiefbane isn't made to blast your head off as a lawful 10:57 (moreso than cross-aligned artis already do) 11:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 693 points, T:1097, killed by Yeenoghu 11:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed otc's ghost, the former Empiric, on T:1284 11:08 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 11:10 <@malor> What combo are you playing? 11:11 <@Shadow_Rider> doppelganger corsair 11:11 <@malor> I see you are finally going non-Excalibur also 🙂 11:11 <@Shadow_Rider> :P excal is so good and easy to get 11:11 <@malor> oh, you do have a Barb in there. 11:11 <@Shadow_Rider> oh god don’t remind me 11:12 >:) 11:12 <@Shadow_Rider> there he is 11:12 <@malor> I've lost one level to drain this game. I've been pretty careful, but monsters can move and zap in the same turn even when you are "very fast". So pretty hard to avoid all draining blasts. 11:13 imagine being so good at the game that the only thing people can make fun of is ascending using a suboptimal weapon 11:13 couldn't be me :( 11:13 <@Shadow_Rider> yeah imagine not even using a weapon at all 11:13 <@Shadow_Rider> noob 11:14 :P 11:14 <@malor> Sam's finally has a wish for me! First time in however many Sam-attempts. 11:14 <@malor> scroll of wishing. 11:15 nice one 11:15 Oh there's scrolls of wishing too? 11:15 <@malor> yes. Somewhat rare I guess. This is my second I have seen in my games. 11:16 <@Shadow_Rider> ahour I noticed that you did wishless and genoless 11:16 <@Shadow_Rider> why tho 11:16 <@malor> holy cow. That is pretty good Amateurhour. 11:17 <@Shadow_Rider> also how did you resist using the 10 billion wishes the game gives you 11:17 <@malor> top conduct for Slashthem by far. 11:17 I mean why not really 11:17 You can upgrade a ton of shit into really good items 11:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] SamG (Arc Hum Fem Neu) consulted the Oracle, on T:3575 11:18 I can't remember why just did them out of habit I think 11:18 but it made astral summonstorms horrible so wouldn't do genoless again 11:18 it's just not worth it 11:18 begone summoners! 11:18 Aren't a bunch of Astral summoners ungenoable anyway? 11:19 I know the liches are but 11:19 aren't ungenoable* my b 11:19 <@malor> I think all the major summoners can be geno'd. Based on my experience anyway, I haven't had any trouble on astral. 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:20 <@Shadow_Rider> I’ve genoed vamp mage and ghoul queen every time but idk if they show up on astral 11:21 there are random V on astral 11:21 in 343 at least 11:21 so vamp mage is a good target 11:21 L and V yeah, ghoul mages can be summoned by those 11:22 and ghoul queens 11:22 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased +3 dragonhide speed boots", on T:73991 11:23 <@Shadow_Rider> maybe I’ll try not doing those this time and see how it goes 11:23 <@Shadow_Rider> not liches tho 11:23 <@Shadow_Rider> I hate liches 11:23 <@malor> this is my slashthem geno list and I have had zero issues: master mind flayer master lich titan disenchanter vorpal jabberwock arch-lich mind flayer giant shoggoth vampire mage ghoul mage gnoll shaman star vampire 11:24 <@Shadow_Rider> @lt?vorpal jabberwock 11:24