00:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with Frost Brand by Set, on T:19645 00:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Sorceress (level 18), on T:20053 00:07 -!- theRaisse has joined #hardfought 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a rock piercer), on T:2321 00:13 [hdf-us] [fh] Ride (shadowrider38) (Ran Elf Fem Cha) received Stormbringer from Mars, on T:12196 00:16 [hdf-us] [fh] Ride (shadowrider38) (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 62822 points, T:12956, killed by a human zombie 00:17 <@Shadow_Rider> :/ grunthack like moment 00:17 <@Shadow_Rider> thanks for letting a pack of zombies appear and start wailing on me before letting me know game 00:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2735 00:20 !lastgame 00:20 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowrider38/fiqhack/dumplog/2022-07-19%2004%3A16%3A37%2C%20Ride-Ran-Elf-Fem-Cha%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/N/NetSysFire/nethack/dumplog/1658186190.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1658146149.evil.html 00:21 Damn, got surrounded p. quickly 00:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 174 points, T:538, killed by a small mimic 00:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 13621 points, T:3182, killed by a cave spider, while fainted from lack of food 00:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (two random monsters from class R), on T:3 00:23 <@Shadow_Rider> its these 34 variants that dont alert you when stuff enters los 00:24 <@Shadow_Rider> it'd be no problem if the game doesnt just give me paralysis while i wait to heal or spawn 00:24 <@Shadow_Rider> guess i should being doing 23 turns instead of 234 00:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) found the Eye of the Aethiopica on the floor, on T:20876 00:24 Probably 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the Dark One, on T:20907 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:20909 00:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 195 points, T:913, killed by an orc zombie 00:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 2224 points, T:1712, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2327 points, T:3265, killed by the nabru's ghost of nabru 00:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] xNHRN (Pri Hum Mal Law), 2604 points, T:3080, killed by a giant spider, while frozen by a potion 00:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 9004 points, T:3086, killed by an iron piercer 00:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 boots of speed", got "a pair of combat boots", on T:21475 00:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 4 points, T:34, killed by a water moccasin 00:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:21690 00:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was bestowed with Ogresmasher by Anhur, on T:21842 00:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:2238 00:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 1645 points, T:2243, quit 01:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Arawn (Ana Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:39871 01:05 [hdf-eu] [slth] Concrete (Bar Tro Mal Cha), 25781 points, T:5294, quit 01:06 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Concrete (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 75271 points, T:6921, quit 01:34 -!- theRaisse is now known as raisse 01:37 -!- magnetor has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 01:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] laura (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 476 points, T:1910, killed by a gnome queen 01:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] LythariDrow (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 558 points, T:1478, killed by a sewer rat 01:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed +3 Godhands", on T:2433 02:02 -!- winny has quit [Remote host closed the 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Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2945 02:37 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 02:37 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 02:40 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha), 590 points, T:932, killed by a dwarf 02:47 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha), 428 points, T:1578, killed by an acidic corpse 02:48 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha), 8 points, T:45, killed by a jackal 02:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 47681 points, T:6647, killed by Sir Garland 02:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 1065 points, T:459, quit 02:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed +3 Godhands", on T:14 02:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Anhur, on T:33134 02:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) was bestowed with spellbook of finger of death, on T:33134 02:56 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:2180 03:04 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha), 735 points, T:1283, killed by a bat 03:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 8606 points, T:2771, killed by a bat 03:07 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha), 255 points, T:360, killed by a jackal 03:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) was given the Cloak of the Unheld One, on T:41333 03:14 [hdf-us] [slth] Ihaveamo (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 481 points, T:560, killed by a rock mole 03:19 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1427 03:26 -!- hackemslashem has joined #hardfought 03:39 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Ran Elf Mal Neu), 2487 points, T:2815, killed by a stone orcish arrow 03:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Trt Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1567 03:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Dro-Pri Dro Fem Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:6845 03:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 33335 points, T:7623, killed by a living lectern, while fainted from lack of food 04:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed MoonPig's ghost, the former Pilferer, on T:33605 04:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Pri Dro Fem Cha), 8711 points, T:3178, killed by a blue jelly 04:12 i'm learning more about twoweaponing now that i've found a silver spear. i'm currently unskilled in spear, so i guess right now i get a -3 damage bonus to both my hits? so in order to actually be useful in it i need to first single-weapon a spear and train it up, then twoweapon and train both up? sounds like a lot of work. 04:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Varagos (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1003 points, T:2024, burned by a flaming sphere's explosion 04:17 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 04:23 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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Soko is just above the bigroom. 05:24 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 05:37 -!- fakepass_ has joined #hardfought 05:38 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) was given the Gauntlets of Spell Power, on T:43143 05:42 -!- fakepass has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:49 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 05:54 -!- fakepass_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:35451 06:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 3 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:35519 06:43 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:35842 06:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 8 points, T:109, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:46 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 11 points, T:29, killed by a bear trap 06:46 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:14, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:46 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 06:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 67 points, T:155, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:51 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Nbn Cha), 160 points, T:170, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:53 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Fem Law), 189 points, T:633, slipped while mounting a saddled baby gold dragon 06:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1 07:23 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 07:23 -!- iamgarp is now known as CAT_S 07:23 -!- chao is now known as stenno 07:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 20 points, T:1, caught herself in her own fireball 07:34 excalibur has a damage of 1d12 +1d10 for large enemies with a +1d5. with a +7 enchantment this means that the minimum hp i'll knock off a monster is 1+1+1+7=10, and maximum is 12+10+5+7=34, correct? 07:36 assuming AC>0 07:36 and if i'm an expert in long swords, then +2, so the range is 12 to 36 07:39 stenno: ah ok, because AC in general affects to-hit, but when AC<0 it affects damage 07:39 yeah 07:39 AC>=0 would have been correct 07:39 stenno: ok i understand now. 07:40 so if i start unskilled twoweaponing an unskilled silver spear + expert excalibur... the damage bonus due to skill level is -3 07:43 so for my first hit with excalibur, the damage range is 7 to 31 (i.e. 10 to 34 minus 3). with my second hit with the silver spear, it's 1d8+(1d20) -3, which is 1+1-3 to 8+20-3 = 0 to 25 07:43 so if i twoweapon, that means in one turn, i can actually cause between 7 to 56 damage. is that right? 07:43 if so, that's a _ton_ more damage and twoweaponing is awesome. 07:44 stenno: welcome back! 07:44 <3 07:44 and it's a no-brainer to twoweapon even though i'm unskilled at it. 07:49 hey stella 07:50 Moult: nowadays you have to roll a second to-hit for the offhand twoweapon 07:51 with the lower of twoweapon and weapon skill iirc 07:51 its much more complicated nowadays 07:52 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 7250 points, T:7832, killed by a sasquatch 07:56 stenno: OK, but assuming I hit, is the damage calc correct? 07:58 it will be -3 because both your twoweapon skill and your weapon skill is unskilled 07:58 if you had basic in twoweapon and unskilled in offhand weapon, it would still be -3 as the lower of the two is taken 07:58 this makes skilling strat a bit more complicated 07:59 for some reason i seem to remember that if you hit, you will do at least 1 damage 07:59 or that a damage of 0 counts as 'not hit' 07:59 something like that 08:00 welcome back stenno 08:00 hey 08:00 Hello stenno, Welcome to #hardfought 08:01 dunno if i am staying too long 08:01 just wanted to see what the communities are doing 08:01 ndnh had a couple of speedruns done for the first time recently 08:01 oh wow 08:02 current best time is shadow rider's 1h58 08:02 i read a post on /r/nethack regarding their junethack kotw exploits 08:02 great post 08:02 exploits as in adventures 08:03 they really are an elite-tier player for quite some time now 08:03 Oh, hey stenno. 08:03 Been a minute 08:03 it do be like that 08:03 had to focus on other stuff for a bit 08:04 -!- hackemslashem has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:05 so if you do 0 damage with an attack, it wont trigger the passive of the monster, becasue it doesn't count as actually being hit, right? 08:05 something like that i seem to remember 08:05 there was something strange about 0-damage attacks 08:06 like it returns early before actually running the 'hit' code 08:11 stenno , you got my 20 bucks? 08:11 better be why you're back\ 08:11 stenno: i already did -3 i thought? or is my math wrong? 08:11 Moult: i meant that your -3 is correct 08:11 K2: lol 08:11 :P 08:12 i could get used to getting paid for talking shit on irc 08:12 actually this is technically what is happening right now as i am working 08:12 didnt realize that was a thing 08:12 oh indirectly 08:12 yeah i get paid to be on irc all the time 08:12 stenno: ah ok :) thanks so much! i've never twoweaponed before and i was trying to weigh the benefits of losing a shield's AC vs more damage 08:12 yep 08:13 Moult: yeah i wasn't really concise, sorry 08:15 so it takes the lesser of the twoweapon skill and the weapon skill, so if i'm basic twoweapon, expert longsword, and unskilled spear, then for the longsword hit it's -1, and for the spear hit it's -3 08:16 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 08:17 for the longsword its basic, and for the spear its unskilled, yeah 08:18 -!- fakepass has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 08:18 hmm. i'm debating between twoweaponing excalibur + regular longword, or excalibur + silver spear. i think the silver bonus of 1d20 is pretty significant compared to the loss in skill level 08:19 yes, as long as you it 08:19 hit* 08:19 stenno: is the to-hit penalty really that significant? 08:20 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/FEK8t5wM/1658233200.JPG 08:20 hey doggy 08:20 also hey Adeon 08:20 oh wrong channel 08:20 Moult: i think you will find it out yourself 08:20 Adeon: is that your dog 08:20 but you can look at the dog too 08:20 thanks 08:21 pupper 08:21 ty for this pre-sleep blessing Adeon 08:21 it’s my sisters dog but I’ve also taken care of him for months occasionally 08:22 I got covid a few days ago and this dog has been mental support dog 08:22 although I’ve almost recovered now 08:22 Adeon: did you not follow your own advice and eat raw chicken 08:22 I have some cough but that’s it 08:22 smh my head 08:22 it worked perfectly for me 08:22 I forgot to make salmonella and covid fight 08:22 Adeon :( 08:22 I had to cancel an Italy trip over getting sick 08:23 did you want to visit kerio? 08:23 unfortunate 08:23 no I was going to totally different part of Italy 08:23 meeting my ex-boss 08:23 bologna 08:23 later folks 08:24 Umbire: gnight 08:24 ah 08:26 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 08:28 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1249 08:30 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 08:30 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha), 843 points, T:1754, killed by a kitten 08:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 281485 points, T:19962, quit 08:37 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 speed boots", got "a pair of hiking boots", on T:48059 08:39 [hdf-us] [slshm] Rachel (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 6850 points, T:5866, died of starvation 08:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 136 points, T:388, killed by a jackal 08:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1186 08:48 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha), 1173 points, T:2806, killed by a gnome lord 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1251 08:50 [hdf-us] [slshm] Rachel (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 380 points, T:541, killed by a sewer rat 08:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed LythariDrow's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:1417 08:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) was bestowed with Magicbane by Thoth, on T:1371 09:01 -!- fakepass has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:03 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Nbn Cha), 337 points, T:426, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2494 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (two random monsters from class @), on T:1 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 09:06 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] Rachel (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 968 points, T:979, killed by a little dog 09:14 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 09:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] habib (Rog Orc Mal Cha) destroyed quervo1 the human mummy, and former Digger, on T:10793 09:19 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 09:20 [hdf-us] [slshm] Rachel (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 96 points, T:129, killed by a sewer rat 09:22 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) found Trollsbane in a shop, on T:5207 09:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:3711 09:34 [hdf-us] [slshm] Rachel (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 568 points, T:798, killed by a jaguar 09:37 <@post163> !ping 09:37 @post163: Pong! 09:41 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6406 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 5913 points, T:4802, killed by a werewolf, while sleeping 09:44 -!- winny has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:45 -!- winny has joined #hardfought 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 6583 points, T:3483, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a potion 09:51 found vlad's tower! \o/ 09:52 <@nabru> Yay! 09:52 getting scarily close towards the ascension run 09:53 you got this Moult 09:55 amateurhour: cheers, fingers crossed! 09:58 hmm, and orcus just below vlad. 09:59 if you find a cockatrice anywhere close to orcus level, you can kill it, grab its corpse, dig to the level below orcus level, go to upstairs, wield the cockatrice corpse, go up the upstairs, and the smack orcus 09:59 vlad often has one at the first level 10:00 Adeon: good idea, but according to telepathy no cockatrice on orcus' level. i'll keep a look out 10:00 grab orcus's cock-atrice to defeat him 10:01 the question is whether to fight vlad or orcus first 10:01 vlad is really mean now 10:01 and whether i'm ready. i hope i am, i've got speed boots, AC-34, 268hp, orb of fate... 10:02 drain res? 10:02 cause he attacks really fast 10:02 actually dont listen to any of my opinions about post 343 nethack 10:04 Demo: i have excalibur and cloak of protection, i think that protects against drain resistance? 10:05 yeah excalibur gives drain resistance 10:05 I think you are tough enough with that setup for vlad 10:05 if you are paranoid, keep cursed scroll of tele or some escape item with you, maybe full healing 10:06 orcus has a small chance of summoning demogorgon so if you've invested a lot in the game, the cockatrice plan is often a good one if one happens to spawn close 10:07 btw be real careful with using a cockatrice corpse so you don't die :P 10:07 I did a dumb once and petrified myself in the wizard tower 10:08 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:9736 10:08 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 10:09 ok, let me see about tackling vlad :) i have a !oFullHealing 10:13 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:50709 10:13 \o/ 10:13 had to chase him a bit, but definitely not as annoying as asmodeus with a wand of digging 10:13 rip vlad, he did nothing wrong 10:13 and lost 6 hp :) 10:14 he is a suspicious purveyor of illegitimately gotten atmospheric lighting fixtures 10:14 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:50710 10:15 which i now have >:) 10:16 ok, that's a nice little milestone for today. happy hacking all and time for night :) orcus shall wait until tomorrow 10:19 nice one 10:21 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12691 10:33 -!- hackemslashem has joined #hardfought 10:36 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 10:36 amateurhour: thanks :) 10:41 in the old days, vladbanes were a thing 10:42 they are not anymore 10:43 splicehack has vladsbane :) 10:44 whats that, a silver rubber hose? 10:44 isn't it a food ration 10:44 yeah food ration 10:44 https://github.com/NullCGT/SpliceHack/blob/Spl-R-1.0.0/include/artilist.h#L234 10:44 a SILVER food ration 10:44 nice lol 10:44 so i got the right idea at least 10:44 I thought that was deleted in the rewrite but I guess not 10:45 MH_UNDEAD means extra damage against undead? 10:45 material hater? :D 10:45 oh man I hope negative numbers in those fields aren't handled properly 10:46 would it actually heal the opponent? 10:47 no idea, still at work so can't actually check what types there 10:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law), 55 points, T:164, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Quico 10:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] habib (Rog Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a green mold, on T:14614 11:09 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 11:09 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Oona, on T:44764 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:22736 11:14 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha), 31 points, T:203, killed by a jackal 11:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Necromancer (level 22), on T:23150 11:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2258 11:20 <@post163> !lastgame nabru 11:20 @post163: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/slashthem/dumplog/1632523371.slth.txt | [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack/dumplog/1658242346.nh.html | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nabru/nethack4/dumplog/2020-08-11%2011%3A15%3A06%2C%20Testin%27-Tou-Hum-Mal-Neu%2C%20died.txt 11:21 elenmirie: worldcon 2024 in glasgow? [ynq] 11:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was given Fire Brand, on T:2391 11:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] McPanther (Ran Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1380 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Kni Hum Fem Law), 540 points, T:1294, killed by a gnome lord, while praying 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) was bestowed with Frost Brand by Anhur, on T:23692 11:36 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 11:38 paxed: as for me, [y] 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] larry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:41767 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] larry (Arc Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:41772 11:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:65765 11:40 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:2321, rt[0:25:54] 11:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) killed Sir Garland, on T:15229 11:41 i think paxed is intentionally snubbing you raisse 11:41 he's very cruel by nature 11:42 the original snub 11:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3568 11:43 . 11:44 paxed: sounds like a plan! 11:47 hey stenno I like your ttyrec viewer but why doesn't it have frame skipping or manual frame control? is it written in such a way that it would be particularly difficult to implement? 11:48 i haven't looked at this in a long time 11:48 i'd have to look at it again 11:48 not sure raisse is here, so ... 11:49 in the end its quite frustrating because i couldn't do the things i wanted to do 11:49 but i guess thats one aspect of research 11:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3419 11:51 elenmirie: :) 11:51 I didn't know Glasgow had been selected, but apparently they were the only bid 11:51 > not sure raisse is here 11:51 \o/ 11:51 wow such a snub 11:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was given the Wallet of Perseus, on T:3689 11:54 elenmirie: worldcon 2022 is in september, so it's not yet sure ... but as they're the only bid ... 11:55 they call paxed Mr. Snub. some say the nickname is "Buns" backwards as a subtle compliment to his backside, but I know the truth. it's about the snubbing 11:55 I supose they could just decide not to have it... 11:55 just to snub Glasgow 11:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) destroyed nabru's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:1898 11:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:46818 11:57 qnusnub would be the paxed version of snub 11:57 what thing did you want it to do stenno? 11:57 i really have to look into it again to recall lol 11:58 oh i remember, there was the ttyrec of doom 11:58 figuring out the max dimensions of a ttyrec 11:58 but i ran into performance issues 11:58 right, ok 11:59 you were trying to stream decompress the gzip or something 11:59 [hdf-eu] [un] elenmirie (Con Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:2742, rt[0:44:09] 11:59 and also stream the file itself 12:01 oh the stream decompression was no problem 12:01 oh i remember now a problem 12:01 how would you seek and rewind easily if it is streamed? 12:02 so a 'frame' in a ttyrec is basically just a diff from the frame before it, right 12:02 so you have to apply each frame sucessively (is that a word) to come to a certain frame 12:02 so if i wanted to see the actual screen of frame 12345, i'd need to apply all 12344 frames before that 12:03 and this would be neccessary if i wanted to jump frames 12:03 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 15 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5404 12:03 jesus 12:03 so i wrote a preprocessor which would just result in the whole ttyrec 'by frame' 12:03 but there i had performance issues 12:03 yeah 12:04 there might be a better method 12:04 you made me hot again lol 12:04 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Axus, on T:47430 12:04 :) 12:04 i thought about having checkpoints instead 12:05 i want it to be better than jettyplay 12:06 iirc the bottleneck was the actual browser terminal/vt100 'interpreter' 12:07 maybe i shouldn't just see the ttyrec of doom as something that is sensiblw 12:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Mon Hum Mal Neu) was given Premium Heart, on T:4426 12:08 in the state it is in, it is almost super practical to use for most ttyrecs 12:08 just doesnt have any seeking capabilities 12:08 yes 12:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1017 points, T:2084, killed by a killer bee 12:08 it works good enough for 'normal' ttyrecs 12:08 so if i wanna find something towards the end of a ttyrec and rewatch it a couple times, i cant 12:09 yeah i see 12:09 if i make concessions regarding the ttyrec of doom, it should work out fine 12:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 15 mithril shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:5791 12:14 stenno please make a ttyrec player that combines ipbt (you can search and seek within a ttyrec) and termplay (you can just plug in a url of a gzipped file and it will download and decompress it) 12:14 that would be great 12:14 qt: the termplay thing is already implemented 12:14 very cool 12:14 we tried it out on hardfought thanks to some origin shenanigans from k2 12:14 origin header 12:15 to avoid CSP 12:15 i think those cors headers have since been removed 12:15 yeah thats fine 12:15 also thats not csp, thats cors 12:15 thats csp, and cors mitigates csp 12:15 ok, fine 12:16 i use cors allow-origin headers to mitigate csp 12:16 no, csp is for what the page itself allows to happen 12:16 the cors settings need to go on the remote server, in this case k2s, but in theory you could set csp on your own page to prevent it from reaching out like that if you wanted 12:18 oh i mixed up CSP with SOP 12:18 ah 12:23 MILKSOP would be a good name for some SOP vulnerability/exploit 12:23 security researchers, feel free to use that 12:23 roykSOP 12:24 https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src https://www.amazon.com/magnifying-glass/s?k=magnifying+glass here u go qt, make ur dreams come true 12:25 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:17657 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1213 points, T:1710, killed by a giant ant, while reading a book 12:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed the first wraithworm, on T:49953 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] maneatingcow (Val Hum Fem Law), 3384 points, T:5053, killed by an imp 12:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:24702 12:39 -!- pyzozord has joined #hardfought 12:40 hey, any suggestions how to get better at (normal) nethack? I usually die around dlvl 10 12:40 elbereth feels a bit like cheating but I use it when I am deseprate 12:40 knowing about dipping for excalibur feels like cheating too but I also never managed to do it 12:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] chip (Mon Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1469 12:42 what kind of thing usually kills you? 12:43 <@Shadow_Rider> they are game mechanics so its not cheating 12:44 <@Shadow_Rider> tho if it doesnt sit right with you you dont have to do it 12:44 amateurhour: I play exclusively ranger, don't ask why :P 12:44 -!- terrarian_51 has joined #hardfought 12:45 rld: it feels a bit akward, I guess I'd feel better about it if I learned about it myself, it would feel more earned if I reached deep enough in the dungeon without it to learn about it 12:45 rld: but I think elbereth is actually mentioned in the game manual somewhere 12:46 rld's the bridging bot between this here irc and roguelike discord 12:46 rangers aren't usually lawful so you're not too likely to be getting excalibur 12:46 oh sorry 12:46 Shadow_Rider: ^ 12:47 amateurhour: ah that would explain why that never happened 12:47 q. why did beholder ask rld if it wanted to hang out? 12:47 a. because it knew rld is always down 12:47 nice 12:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] kame2 (Pri Hum Fem Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1657 12:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) was given their Quest, on T:19607 12:48 Hi Guys! I suppose, that Roguelike Discord is far more popular than #hardfought chat on Libera. Is my guess right? 12:48 fwiw I don't think there's any shame in being fully spoiled for this game 12:48 <@Shadow_Rider> dying in the midgame can often mean that you were unaware of how strong a monster would be relative to you strength 12:48 <@Shadow_Rider> looking up new things as they come should help you get over the hump 12:48