00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:64428 00:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65307 00:20 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:65310 00:21 -!- Heliokopis has quit [Quit: Client closed] 00:23 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:65394 00:24 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased +2 mithril large splint mail of decay", on T:65399 00:51 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5634 00:53 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5729 01:07 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:22 nice, got levi, enchant armor... all the stuff the rng was holding back on. 01:23 where'd you get it? 01:26 magnetor: enchant armor was from shops that i hadn't yet ID'd. levi i just found somewhere 01:27 nice 01:27 I should definitely backtrack to shops a lot more often, especially once I've IDed everything 01:28 magnetor: indeed, i've been buying out every potion, scroll, and ring from the shops 01:29 <@Shadow_Rider> magnetor I briefly spectated your game and I was curious how long you farm for 01:29 <@Shadow_Rider> doesn’t it get kinda boring after a while or nah? 01:30 I'm weird, I actually enjoy farming 01:30 magnetor: what are you farming for and where/how? 01:30 I'm one of the, like, three people in nethack who does 01:30 !whereis magnetor 01:30 Moult: [hdf-us] magnetor [nh343]: (Bar Orc Mal Cha) T:31173 The Dungeons of Doom level: 9 01:30 he likes the dopamine hit when the pudding drops a wow or magic lamp 01:30 You sense the presence of monsters.--More-- 01:30 P P 01:30 PP P P 01:30 PP P P PP Pe PP 01:30 PPPPPPPPPP PPPPPdP: F 01:31 P PPPPPPPP PPP PPPPP d P p lP 01:31 PPP PPPPPPPP P P PPP Ho u 01:31 P PaPP PPP O H 01:31 PPP PPPPPP P P P F k 01:31 PB @ PpP P 01:31 P PP PP PPPPPF o 01:31 P PPPPP PPPPPP 01:31 PPPPPPPPsPPPPZPPPPPP F 01:31 PP PPPPPP cPPPPPPP P@ 01:31 PPP PPPPPPPPP P& PPPPP PP o 01:31 P PyPPPPPPPPPFPPPPPPPPP G&P O PP F 01:31 P PPPPP P PPPe PPPC @ g OC 01:31 P FPP PPP PY P 01:31 <@Shadow_Rider> Moult magnetor is pudding farming 01:31 but you get the idea 01:31 <@Shadow_Rider> It only works in 343 because it got fixed 01:31 """fixed""" 01:31 pudding farming is its own punishment 01:31 <@Shadow_Rider> correct 01:32 more or less. Also, I generally go until I get certain items and/or enough wishes 01:32 <@Shadow_Rider> fixed :) 01:32 wow my goodness 01:32 right now, I'm going until I both ID /oD and find a CoMR 01:32 magnetor: what happens when you move up to a more recent version of nethack 01:33 puddings no longer leave corpses, for one 01:33 <@Shadow_Rider> and no death drops 01:33 additionally, divided puddings and other duped monsters no longer have death drops 01:33 which essentially makes pudding farming pointless 01:33 magnetor: yes, so are you just going to stick to 343 :) 01:34 i must say i really like how nethack is still actively developed 01:34 It's what I generally do. I occasionally run stuff in the latest version though 01:34 its actually fake 01:34 real nethack dev stopped in 2003 after 343 01:34 Usually, I'll do my zen (fully blind) runs through later versions 01:34 a new fake dt has arrisen that is releasing the new vanilla releases 01:35 Demo: oh? 01:35 I'm joking lol 01:35 to quote zeropunctuation 01:35 "it's different, therefore, it's RUINED" 01:35 yeah 01:37 also, if anyone ever wants to try pudding farming, and isn't a masochist like me; keybinds and macros are a must-have 01:38 You can technically "farm" for glob resistances 01:38 bothack 01:40 https://github.com/krajj7/BotHack 01:40 shhh 01:40 fp ppl r all smarter than me 01:41 don't tell them about my foray into self-awareness, or krajj will find out 01:41 I mean 01:41 bleep bloop 01:43 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +3 gauntlets of power named "FALCON PAWNCH"", on T:49681 01:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "a blessed fixed greased +3 cloak of magic resistance named "FoD insurance"", on T:49684 01:47 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "the blessed fixed master key of thievery", on T:49839 01:49 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 24084 points, T:10231, killed by a giant ant, while frozen by a monster's gaze 01:50 AC-29 :D woohoo! 01:50 kinda wish there was a half spell damage chaotic artifact. Oh well, that's what [oOA is for 01:50 also, nice, lol 01:51 all the DR in the world 01:51 i _think_ that might be sufficient AC for medusa and the castle. 01:51 magnetor: DR? 01:51 Damage Reduction 01:51 going far enough into the negatives reduces incoming damage 01:53 magnetor: ah ok :) 01:54 <@Shadow_Rider> !pom 01:54 @Shadow_Rider: The moon is waning gibbous; new moon in 11 days. 01:54 <@Shadow_Rider> !rng nethack sleep 01:54 @Shadow_Rider: nethack 01:54 <@Shadow_Rider> wrong answer 01:55 I wish we had a !conduct command like the one over in #nethack 01:55 specifically, one that gives nonsensical conducts 01:56 <@Shadow_Rider> is there a list of those? 01:56 <@Shadow_Rider> seems kinda fun 01:57 I'm not sure if there's a list, if there is, it's probably on Rodney's info page 02:01 <@Shadow_Rider> found it thanks 02:04 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed figurine of an Archon", got "a figurine of an Archon", on T:24129 02:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 54101 points, T:14956, killed by a zruty, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 02:33 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered Poes, her faithful kitten, on T:6206 02:34 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1429 points, T:6298, killed by a plains centaur 02:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:13445 02:36 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 02:36 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 02:37 is there an easy way from reading the wiki to know if you're strong enough to take on a monster? e.g. medusa i see a "difficulty" but it's hard to judge from the table as i've never fought monsters next to her in the table before. 02:38 not that I know of, besides just looking at their AC and attacks. Difficulty governs where in the dungeon they spawn, effect resistance calculation, etc., and isn't always an indicator of relative difficulty 02:38 i assume medusa is abit of a special case as i have an amulet of reflection, so i could in theory just walk in front of her without even blinding myself, and she _should_ just kill herself, right? 02:39 Should, but I've died enough times to her when I thought I shouldn't have, so blinding yourself just to be safe is always a good iea. 02:39 ^ 02:40 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Charon, on T:83636 02:42 magnetor: hmm ok, to be safe i'll do the level blind then 02:42 you don't really have to do the whole level blind; Medusa is behind a locked door and sleeping, so you only need to blind yourself when you reach her island 02:42 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:83659 02:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:10234 02:47 Depends on the map but generally, yeah 02:47 Outside of the one with bars you're typically fine until you close in 02:48 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Bar Orc Mal Cha) wished for "a blessed fixed greased +3 helm of opposite alignment named "I want lawful arts"", on T:53045 02:51 Umbire: i've got the one with the bars 02:52 Ah 02:53 Even then you're mostly fine until you reach the island, since she's typically in the back half 02:53 Umbire: i'm a little worried about the water monsters, i hear they can zap my ring 02:53 magnetor: wow, you've got some amazing stats there is that all from farming 02:53 You're thinking of electric eels. 02:54 mostly. I haven't even finished alchemizing my healing potions yet 02:55 Umbire: yes, my only scare tool is a bugle and i read it abuses wisdom to use it to scare, and i don't really want to waste wand charges to kill water monsters from a distance 02:55 so i think i need to blind myself to see them, then levitate away from them and don't meelee any of them 02:55 i've got daggers but i'll lose them in the water 02:55 so i guess my only option is run? 02:56 Wisdom abuse isn't that big a deal lmao 02:56 You don't need to be but so cautious 02:56 (but still very cautious) 02:57 Sea monsters lack MR as well 02:57 hehehe only got this far twice... 02:57 Umbire: lacking MR implies? 02:57 @?giant eel 02:57 giant eel (;) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: -1 | Attacks: 3d6 bite physical, 0d0 touch wrap | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, swims, amphibious, oviparous, infravisible 02:58 @?electric eel 02:58 electric eel (;) | Lvl: 7 | Diff: 10 | Spd: 10 | Res: shock | Confers: shock | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: -3 | Attacks: 4d6 bite shock, 0d0 touch wrap | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, swims, amphibious, oviparous, infravisible 02:58 MR score determines resistance to spells and certain other abilities 02:58 Yep but I've got no spells 02:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Hum Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 6 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27724 03:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:16050 03:02 That's what the wands are for 03:02 If you're willing to spare them, anyway 03:02 Umbire: OK I'd better get some wands :) 03:05 <@Shadow_Rider> use the bugle 03:06 <@Shadow_Rider> wisdom barely gets affected and it doesn’t do much as a stat 03:07 <@Shadow_Rider> Umbire brought up monster mr because bugle checks against mr, and sea monsters have none 03:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:11278 03:07 <@Shadow_Rider> meaning they get scared every single time 03:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 230324 points, T:16968, killed by a marilith 03:08 And you're far enough along where restoring abused wisdom is fairly trivial 03:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:34128 03:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2368 03:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Hum Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 1 zorkmid for safe passage, on T:28024 03:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 3440 points, T:4127, killed by a small mimic 03:24 Shadow thanks for the explanation :) sorry for the dumb questions 03:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Wiz Inc Mal Law), 1039 points, T:7714, quit 03:26 ok, got a couple striking and 1 magic missile wand. i think it's time to try to attack medusa 03:27 163hp, ac-29. alternatively i can do some alchemy and drink some healing to boost hp 03:31 You can literally just instakill her with reflection or a mirror lol 03:39 Umbire: you're speaking to someone who has only twice gotten this far (+1 one more with your help last year with explore mode on) 03:39 Umbire: it is a very tense moment :) 03:40 Just make sure you're blinded at minimum, all you really need at this point 03:40 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Rog Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:36506 03:49 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:85189 03:50 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:52 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (locusts), on T:17588 03:54 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6392 03:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:55226 03:55 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Bar Orc Mal Cha) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:55227 04:03 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed eye of the aethiopica", on T:17667 04:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Rog Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed ring of levitation", got "a diamond ring", on T:37661 04:08 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:09 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 04:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:37939 04:09 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 11636 points, T:9561, killed by a snake 04:13 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:28905 04:13 gratz 04:13 woohoo! 04:13 safe to take off the towel now i think :) 04:13 yep, her statue is otherwise harmless 04:16 -!- bugsniper__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:16 magnetor: statue? corpse i think 04:16 i meeleed her 04:16 depends on how you kill her 04:16 yeah, corpse. Don't touch it, then, it's essentially a really heavy cockatrice corpse 04:18 magnetor: right. she's on the stair. i guess i won't "accidentally" touch it even though it's on a stair tile 04:18 [hdf-au] [slth] ocnda (Arc Dwa Mal Law) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:7558 04:19 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 04:20 Moult: Unless you're blind. 04:20 arahael: good point 04:21 Moult: Ask me how I know. 04:21 rip 04:21 F 04:22 arahael: hehehehehe 04:23 interestingly she did hit me a few times whilst i was blindfolded 04:23 so i guess my assumption that my amulet of reflection would cause her to instally die was... wrong 04:23 saved by Umbire 's advice 04:24 Touching Medusa's corpse is fine, but it's usually too heavy to lift anyway. 04:24 @?gremlin 04:24 gremlin (g) | Lvl: 5 | Diff: 8 | Spd: 12 | Res: poison | Confers: poison | MR: 25 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 2 | Attacks: 1d6 claw physical, 1d6 claw physical, 1d4 bite physical, 0d0 claw curse | Alignment: -9 | Flags: genocidable, swims, poisonous, stalker, infravisible 04:24 I drop everything primarily so I can move it off a staircase if need be. 04:24 Also, note that she has to actually see her reflection, i.e. it won't work if you're invisible. 04:25 I use her as a melee weapon whenever possible 04:25 "it" in the staircase scenario being her statue. 04:29 wow. i can kill a dragon in 4 hits. 04:29 Moult: Impressive - vanilla? 04:29 arahael: yes 04:30 Still pretty good. 04:31 oh interesting i thought medusa was meant to be on the downstair. but she isn't. 04:31 in variant 4. she's in one spot, the stair is in another 04:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:56854 04:32 lel, the percy statue had lev boots 04:32 magnetor: and congrats back to you :) 04:32 ty 04:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Ran Gno Fem Neu) became Venus' Envoy of Balance, on T:35020 04:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Ran Gno Fem Neu) was bestowed with Vorpal Blade, on T:35020 04:36 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 04:39 Wish I could bash this gold dragon in four hits. 04:39 200 HP. 04:42 arahael: oh, this dragon had about 100 something hp. so i guess 200 would be about 7-8 hits 04:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1528 points, T:1116, killed by a giant bat 04:46 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:46 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 04:51 interesting, i wasn't next to the water (1 space away) and a kraken still gave me messages i assume it was trying to drown me or something 04:52 ? 04:52 Like, brushing against your leg? 04:53 that's a pretty dire warning as I understand it. 04:53 -!- hackemslashem has joined #hardfought 04:54 Umbire: no, it wasn't a "brush against your leg" message 04:54 Well, what was it? 04:54 Umbire: from memory it was something like "misses" but when i tried taking off my towel i didn't see any other monsters 04:54 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:86870 04:54 Oh, sea monsters hide in the water. That's normal. 04:55 i think the message is too far back in the log 04:55 Umbire: no, i put on my towel and there only was the kraken, and i was 1 space away from the water at all times 04:59 Invisibility and displacement cause monsters to attack where they think you are. 05:05 Umbire: That shouldn't result in the 'brushing against yoru leg' message, though, since the leg isn't actually there. 05:05 Can't believe my wand of death, after monsters have given it a fair few zaps, _still_ has 4 charges left. 05:08 I mean he said it wasn't, so. 05:09 Umbire: let me try to recreate it locally with wizard mode 05:10 No need. 05:10 It's not that important 05:10 @?Croesus 05:10 Croesus (@) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 22 | Spd: 15 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 40 | Generates: unique | AC: 0 | Attacks: 4d10 weapon physical | Alignment: 15 | Flags: omnivore, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker, infravisible 05:13 Umbire: Ah, yeah, I missed that. 05:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 8069 points, T:7317, quit 05:20 I seem to get a lot of liches in this game. 05:26 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Bar Orc Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:58497 05:27 fun fact: I never actually touched the guy 05:29 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 05:30 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a lizard corpse, on T:23957 05:31 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 05:34 can't seem to recreate it in wizard mode. maybe it was something shooting at me through iron bars or somethiung 05:40 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:40 interesting, my local distro (gentoo) install of nethack doesn~'t have curses. mayber it's a third party patch? 05:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:37559 05:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Ran Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Scout (level 14), on T:36886 05:54 assuming it's 3.6.6, curses is optional feature that has to be compiled in, i guess it's missing from whatever gentoo does 05:56 paxed: yes it's 3.6.6. https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/games-roguelike/nethack/nethack-3.6.6.ebuild 05:56 paxed: interestingly there is a runtime dependency on ncurses which suggests some form of curses support 05:57 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 2664215 points, T:59560, crushed to death by an exploding drawbridge 05:57 F 05:57 magnetor: ooh what happened how did you do that 05:57 I knew I should have put on an "oLS before crossing the bridge 05:57 magnetor: after all that farming and insane stats 05:58 a random troll revived and had a /oStriking 05:58 zapped it at me, destroying the drawbridge, which is an instadeath 05:58 needs to have CURSES_GRAPHICS defined at compile time 05:58 I'll just try again tomorrow, I suppose 05:59 paxed: ah gotcha https://bugs.gentoo.org/777642 06:00 magnetor: so the solution is just to step off that 1 tile which is the bridge isn't it? 06:00 there was no way I would have survived the situation I was in without an "oLS 06:01 magnetor: just don't stay on the bridge in the first place? or it was while you were crossing it? 06:01 it was while I was crossing 06:01 !lastgame magnetor 06:01 magnetor: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/magnetor/nh343/dumplog/1657925342.nh343.txt 06:01 you can check the last few turns here 06:02 magnetor: no html dumplog? 06:03 not sure, I can check 06:03 doesn't look like I have html dumplogs enabled for 343 06:06 -!- magnetor has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 06:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1075 06:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 192333 points, T:25768, killed by an earth elemental, while reading a book 06:17 between medusa and the castle, i still haven't done the quest (xl13 still) and have no map scrolls. is it worthwhile to explore the mazes manually or is it a waste of time and i should go back, grind for map scrolls, possible get to xl14 and do the quest first? 06:26 or, put another way, do you guys bother to do mazes without mapping/trap or stair detect tools? or get that first before you dive 06:27 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:2989, rt[0:15:31] 06:31 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 06:32 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 06:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Pri Hum Mal Law), 2524 points, T:4558, killed by a giant beetle 06:35 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4592, rt[0:23:19] 06:36 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 06:37 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 06:40 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3824 points, T:4987, killed by an ochre jelly 06:43 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "fixed blessed +2 glowing dragon scale mail", on T:258 06:44 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "fixed blessed +2 speed boots", on T:266 06:45 [hdf-us] [evil] musicdemon (Mon Cen Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:7516 06:49 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:1303, rt[0:07:40] 06:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6262 06:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1505 points, T:2418, killed by a rothe 06:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3653 07:04 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "gjf", on T:6969 07:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 7431 points, T:7113, killed by a panther 07:05 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:7402 07:08 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Raisse (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2952 points, T:7736, killed by a soldier ant 07:08 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 358664 points, T:41713, quit 07:15 [hdf-us] [evil] lgxia (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:87743 07:21 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:3136, rt[0:39:28] 07:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1006 points, T:715, killed by a piranha 07:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Pri Gia Fem Cha), 256 points, T:968, killed by a lava demon 07:28 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Nbn Law), 257 points, T:128, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:28 [hdf-au] [slth] ocnda (Arc Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 grey dragon scale mail", on T:10375 07:29 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 63 points, T:183, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:30 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 12 points, T:127, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:31 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 07:31 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed tinning kit", on T:3143 07:31 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Nbn Law), 224 points, T:208, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:32 * Moult has reached the castle o/ 07:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Val Hum Fem Law), 4083 points, T:5563, killed by a mumak 07:33 Moult: poggies 07:33 aoei: poggies? 07:34 it's like pog but more ies 07:34 https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/poggers related 07:34 minotaur in the entrance maze, lich in the castle, purple worm, but nothing too challenging i think? maybe i'm underestimating it 07:35 aoei: cute froggy 07:35 aoei: very apt expression. +1 07:35 i have a feeling though i shouldn't really be tackling the castle before the quest 07:36 -!- aoei has quit [Quit: rebooting server] 07:37 it's very common to do the castle before the quest 07:38 amateurhour: oh? 07:40 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:44 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:3881, rt[1:02:09] 07:47 -!- stella has joined #hardfought 07:47 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v stella] by ChanServ 07:49 nice, i can meelee the minotaur in 4 hits like a dragon. he knocked off 20hp only in that time 07:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 5592 points, T:1184, killed by an imp 07:52 <@post163> !ping 07:52 @post163: Pong! 07:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2019 points, T:3736, killed by a baby owlbear, while fainted from lack of food 07:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Pri Elf Fem Cha) was bestowed with Stormbringer by Poseidon, on T:40154 08:01 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1486 08:01 [hdf-eu] [un] muahdib (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered the Big Room, on T:5370, rt[1:19:57] 08:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 08:11 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 14791 points, T:2858, killed by a leocrotta 08:11 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 08:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 133 points, T:411, killed by a sewer rat 08:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 175 points, T:559, killed by a gas spore's explosion 08:23 hmm, two eels guarding the castle. no wands to kill them with, and meelee can result in instadeath. 08:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 246 points, T:814, killed by a wand 08:27 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 08:30 moult: if you have a scaring tool, you can use that if they grab you and they will let you go 08:31 -!- phinxy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:31 if you have a ring of levitation, put it on and melee them. stay over ground and if they grab you, take it off. they will let you go 08:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 201 points, T:760, killed by a gas spore's explosion 08:32 you can also just break up boulders and throw rocks at them. takes a long time but you will eventually kill them 08:34 hothraxxa: ah nice, all three seem to be options 08:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered Tina, his faithful kitten, on T:501 08:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 583 points, T:894, killed by a poisonous corpse 08:40 hothraxxa: i ended up throwing rocks. it was surprisingly quick. 08:41 excellent! 08:41 beware the two in the back 08:43 hothraxxa: thanks! :) i will! 08:44 i'm trying to understand where to safely play the passtune. the wiki simply says "near the drawbridge". but i assume if i'm in the tile directly in front of the bridge, it's an instadeath. 08:44 yes. a knight's move away 08:45 i thought the wiki showed the safe space 08:45 right, so still infront of the water, but an L shape away. so killing the eels is necessary to be safe 08:45 i almost never play the passtune so i'm no expert. i go around the back 08:46 Moult: you can burn E on the knights move away square to protect from eels and it won't smudge while you drawbridge-smash 08:46 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:500 08:46 doesn't seem to explicitly say it, it does hint that "must be standing at most a knight's move away" but that's a bit unclear as to where is safe, where is close enough to be heard, and alternatives (e.g. i had no idea about the possibility to go around teh back) 08:47 stella: aaah nice idea 08:47 actually going around the back sounds better, instead of playing the bugle and waking up everyone 08:47 don't make moult angry! moult smash! 08:48 wand of striking was mentioned already? 08:48 (that's what I always do) 08:48 mobileuser: yes that was mentioned in the wiki. i'm pretty wandless this game though. i had one striking and wasted it on an eel 08:48 ah :-) 08:49 I'm always afraid someone will zap striking when I walk on the bridge 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1734 08:49 instadeath 08:49 remember to levitate across the trapdoors if you go in the back way 08:50 go one square past the doors, then open one of them and beat the crap out of the dragon that comes out 08:50 repeat for other side 08:51 make sure the first dragon doesn't blow away the other door 08:51 ok. i'll try the back door :) 08:52 when you open the door to the throne room, you'll be head on with the mob though 08:53 that's true, but i'll also be in a narrow corridor 08:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1766 points, T:2449, killed by an arrow 08:56 the two dragons are gray and black. gray is not a worry because i have reflection. black i also have reflection. soo.... 08:56 -!- arahael has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:00 The gray dragon just misses! The gray dragon is disintegrated! 09:00 very convenient order of dragons here 09:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] habib (Hea Gno Mal Neu) found the Staff of Aesculapius on the floor, on T:29169 09:00 yeah just don't let the black one destroy the door opposite 09:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 368 points, T:1480, killed by a bugbear 09:00 also eat the bugger 09:01 hothraxxa: eat the who? 09:01 hothraxxa: black or gray? 09:01 the black dragon 09:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] habib (Hea Gno Mal Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:29180 09:01 eating grays is useless 09:01 unless you're relly hungry 09:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] habib (Hea Gno Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29182 09:02 You feel very firm. 09:02 disintegration resistance is almost never needed though 09:02 hothraxxa: thanks! :) 09:02 but i eat one anyway 09:02 You're having a hard time getting all of it down. You're finally finished. 09:02 a bit risky here 09:03 not really. just don't eat for a while 09:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:657 09:05 ok, time to deal with the horde. i've got a ring of conflict which might be useful here. 09:05 i'm also pretty sure there was a lich before, but no longer. maybe a chameleon... 09:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2431 points, T:1375, killed by a dwarf king 09:07 conflict will also help with the overeating 09:07 maybe the lich got owned by the soldiers 09:08 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/2f255560252b0c18ed468baf94b58654bd5413f7 09:08 ^ hmm, i only have charisma 5, and i'm invisible, so maybe the ring is useless? 09:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Rog Orc Fem Cha) found the Master Key of Thievery on the floor, on T:42394 09:09 charisma 5? boy you're ugly 09:09 maybe you'll just scare them 09:09 i think i was charisma 7 but earlier in the game i stepped on a poly trap and turned into a "new dwarf". an uglier, weaker dwarf. 09:10 i didn't know about that change. interesting 09:10 you'll definitely need to be visible then 09:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Rog Orc Fem Cha) killed the Master Assassin, on T:42456 09:11 -!- arahael has joined #hardfought 09:12 hothraxxa: oh, i just decided to take off conflict and fight them one on one 09:12