00:00 And mop up the remnants 00:02 -!- marblesurf has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:04 Oh right, soldiers. 00:08 [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the ghost of magnetor, the former Skirmisher, on T:3431 00:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) killed Hmnyw-Pharaoh, on T:42256 00:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) destroyed Ghoul-queen Nitocris, on T:42311 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh343] bleeko (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:47084 00:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Nightsorrow (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4031 points, T:5392, killed by a soldier ant 00:16 -!- magnetor has joined #hardfought 00:16 Turns out when this isn't immediately following a Medusa I have trouble crossing, I hate this Castle variant a lot less 00:17 Honestly, Medusa is the biggest question mark for me in variants 00:18 Water management is, at least, easier in Slash'Em 00:20 Most times I have a way to cross before I reach her 00:20 I'm thinking of a particular Evil run that pissed me off 00:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", got "a scroll labeled ANDOVA BEGARIN", on T:48961 00:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) killed Father Dagon, on T:42719 00:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) killed Mother Hydra, on T:42720 00:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:48961 00:29 <@SpiceEmpress> i forget, is basic skill in divination enough to cast most things? i could multiclass into pirate for TWF and basic divination, or a priestess with a nose for beatitudes and expert divination 00:29 <@SpiceEmpress> still will have dragonrider quest and arti, so that's not a factor 00:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) wished for "stormbringer", on T:59283 00:32 -!- Bleeko has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) killed Lamashtu, on T:42947 00:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6864 00:40 -!- pescepalla has joined #hardfought 00:41 [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) refused to give up The Eye of the Aethiopica to Neferet the Green, on T:59582 00:42 [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the invisible Neferet the Green, on T:59585 00:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) wished for "magic chest", on T:43318 00:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Malcanthet, on T:43570 00:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3625 00:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) wished for "blessed ring of free action", on T:43866 00:58 [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:59854 01:00 [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:59860 01:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) killed Pale Night, on T:44328 01:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) killed Dagon, on T:44341 01:11 i'm gettin the There is already a game in progress under your name. Destroy old game? [yn] on spicyflump20kWOW 01:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) killed Graz'zt, on T:44420 01:12 oh no 01:12 do we need k2 again 01:12 no, iirc it's fine. resolves on its own after awhile 01:12 ah ok 01:12 didn't wanna ping :P 01:13 im gonna ping him again just for fun 01:13 k2 k2 k2 01:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) changed form for first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5499 01:13 but if him or tangela *happened* to be around to give it percussive maintenance 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Dewzmint's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:5559 01:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) destroyed karibou's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:5565 01:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) killed Glasya, on T:44984 01:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) killed Daemon, on T:45039 01:27 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:45196 01:29 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest4615 01:29 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 01:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) killed the invisible Mephistopheles, on T:45354 01:31 [hdf-us] [ndnh] spicyflump20kWOW (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 490 points, T:441, killed by an elf 01:33 -!- Guest4615 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:45662 01:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) completed Sokoban, on T:16120 01:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:45761 01:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:45909 01:40 -!- pescepalla has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.5] 01:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] NeroOneTrueKing (Mad Gno Mal Neu), 7305080 points, T:45916, poisoned by the elder priest (with the Amulet) 01:43 <@NeroOneTrueKing> lol 01:45 <@hackemslashem> I thought multi classing wasn't supported yet in splice? 01:47 [hdf-us] [ndnh] spicyflump20kWOW (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1428 points, T:309, killed by a giant bat zombie 01:48 https://github.com/NullCGT/SpliceHack/commit/30aa71adc3b3e3808c10213bbd4b76763e9bf487 01:48 it's on like, round 2 or 3 now 01:51 [hdf-us] [nh343] kewldewd (Val Hum Fem Law) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:6806 01:51 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:51 so would you go pirate or priest :O 01:52 I'd probably go pirate, just because it would be something new to me. 01:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 135130 points, T:19588, killed by a Noviere Eladrin of Dionysus, while praying 01:57 [hdf-us] [ndnh] spicyflump20kWOW (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 316 points, T:869, killed by the Oracle 02:01 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:9593 02:11 [hdf-us] [ndnh] spicyflump20kWOW (Ana Dwa Fem Cha) wished for "axe of the dwarvish lords", on T:338 02:15 [hdf-us] [ndnh] spicyflump20kWOW (Ana Dwa Fem Cha), 1866 points, T:1448, killed by her own battle-axe 02:19 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:20 -!- yamamushi has joined #hardfought 02:27 Oh you were right to ping 02:27 It ain't clearing up 02:28 !lastgame 02:28 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowrider38/nethack/dumplog/1656310400.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/R/Raisse/nh343/dumplog/1656309092.nh343.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1656250835.evil.html 02:28 WiFi went out during the levelup menu 02:29 !lastgame spicyflump20kWOW 02:29 Umbire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/spicyflump20kWOW/notdnethack/dumplog/1656310091.ndnh.txt 02:29 Oh right, Rider set mintc earlier and never unset it 02:29 Hey @Shadow_Rider, that^ 02:31 <@Shadow_Rider> yes im playing right now 02:31 <@Shadow_Rider> dont expose me 02:31 <@Shadow_Rider> shhh 02:31 !whereis Shadow_Rider 02:31 magnetor: Shadow_Rider is not playing. 02:31 <@Shadow_Rider> psych im not playing 02:31 <@Shadow_Rider> i was for a while tho 02:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:949 02:35 -!- Arseniy has joined #hardfought 02:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Wiz Ith Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2328 02:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 1849 points, T:1371, killed by a small crossbow bolt 02:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] wizard44 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:13790 02:48 @?ghost 02:48 ghost ( ) | Lvl: 10 | Diff: 12 | Spd: 3 | Res: cold sleep disintegrate poison petrification drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: special | AC: -5 | Attacks: 1d1 touch physical | Alignment: -5 | Flags: flies, phases, breathless, unsolid, nopoly, undead, stalker, passes-bars, vegan 02:48 Oh, just no polying into them, taming's fine tho 02:56 guess the make more useful pets than floating eyes 02:59 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) had a pair of gauntlets of power entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:5261 03:00 Absolutely *perfect*, as I had no gloves! Exactly what I needed! 03:00 Was retaming my gargoyle, managed to bound into an open trap door 03:01 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Hlf Mal Una) killed Medusa, on T:15110 03:09 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5938 03:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:14579 03:12 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "a blessed fixed greased +3 cloak of magic resistance", on T:56556 03:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2037 03:15 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) wished for "blessed wand of cancellation", on T:7090 03:15 No fucking way I just missed every one of like, five targets with a thrown potion of oil just now 03:16 Guess it's an arc'd throw, w/e 03:16 "You throw the oil over their heads!" 03:17 now the floor is slippery and flammable" 03:17 "You hear the studio audience laughing" 03:26 [hdf-eu] [spl] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:42699 03:26 [hdf-eu] [spl] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:42704 03:28 [hdf-eu] [spl] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:42712 03:33 Umbire: no, scare monsters and Elbereth don't work on Quest Nemesisses 03:33 Yeah I noticed. 03:33 You owe me +3 gloves of dexterity. 03:33 Jerk. >:c 03:33 quest leaders are not handled, though 03:33 (the joke is it's @Shadow_Rider that owes me) 03:34 they are all @ though, so they should be immune because of that 03:34 * Umbire stares in Tiamat and Scorpius 03:34 quest leader 03:35 ...that is true, ain't it 03:35 bit of a species-ist undercurrent to politics outside Yendor 03:35 I think they are almost all human 03:35 even 03:35 only Neferet is an elf? 03:36 I wonder if humans and elves are the real mindless, chaotic savages for not respecting Elbereth. 03:37 probably not mindless but too chaotic brain connections so Elbereth fizzles out in those twisty passages 03:37 humans at least, Elves are just OP 03:38 maybe we need to add a psychological profile questionnaire before the start of the game? "Are u superstitious?" etc. :) 03:38 have you ever played Omega? they do that to build your characters stats 03:39 nice. No. I never tried it, bhaak. Is it a rogue-like? 03:39 yes, one of the old ones, from the 80s 03:40 There's an imp calling me names from somewhere I can't see on the level :( 03:40 Wait. Is that the one where u in a world with towns and such, and u wander around finding caves to explore, etc.? 03:40 <@Bubbles> In the works of Tolkien, Elbereth is the Elvish name of a being whom Elves greatly revere. 03:41 kewldewd: one of the earliest that has that, yes. you start at the city of Rampart. but it's not ADOM. that was later in the 90s 03:41 <@Bubbles> That doesn't explain why humans don't respect Elbereth... it's probably because humans seem to be special (they can't be tamed when almost every other creature can, for instance.) 03:42 Seems I can't close the drawbridge after I've entered the Castle? 03:42 Not safely, at least 03:42 I got it: "please enter your Myers-Briggs personality type: " LOL 03:42 inb4 it 03:42 *inb4 it's 90% INTJ 03:43 k..I think I did play it, bhaak. If we could dload it from the Usenet, we tried it :) 03:43 Umbire: sometimes the mechanism jams, just keep trying 03:44 I've played it like several times to no effect 03:44 While fairly close to it 03:44 Unlucky or what 03:44 I always use the back door 03:45 No such thing here 03:45 ah ok 03:45 I've already gone to Valley and back I'm just wondering what the deal is with this not working 03:45 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 03:45 -!- Semilg has quit [Client Quit] 03:47 [hdf-eu] [xnh] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) bestowed with Giantslayer by The Lady, on T:2512 03:48 Tried it like 10 different times total, still nothing 03:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed fixed greased +3 gray dragon scale mail", got "a greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:16380 03:48 I'd ask bhaak to spectate but we all know it's gonna start working immediately the second I do 03:51 I always works that way, Umbire :) 03:51 [hdf-eu] [xnh] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) found Mjollnir on the floor, on T:3354 03:51 IIRC it's a 20% chance and huge monsters can also block it 03:52 It* 03:52 Hey, does NH roll a D20 to hit, with 1 always a miss, and 20 always a hit for double damage? 03:53 There's nothing on the bridge besides rocks that I moved off before trying a second set of times 03:53 Also bullshit it's 1 in 5 03:53 sounds like "1 in 3" for minimum catch rate in Pokemon Crystal bingos 03:53 Lel 03:54 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Cav Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1828 03:54 [hdf-eu] [xnh] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1822 points, T:3582, killed by a worthless piece of violet glass, while sleeping 03:55 !lastgame elenmirie 03:55 magnetor: [hdf-us] (sorry, no dump exists for xnh:elenmirie) | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/e/elenmirie/xnethack/dumplog/1656314751.xnh.html 03:55 Just played it 10 straight times with no effect 03:55 You're telling me I missed 20% 10+ plays in a row 03:56 I think your drawbridge might be defective 03:56 Well I'm about to fucking fix it permanently 03:56 Out of spite 03:56 save and come back to see if it changes. I wonder if the RNG does a re-seed then 03:57 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:57 If it does, u could probably abuse the RNG that way 03:57 Another 10, no go 03:57 Also I doubt it works that way imo 03:58 One what to find out :) 03:58 I just finished doing it. 03:58 are you sure you are a) close enough, b) actually having a drawbridge (I don't see a brown dot) c) actually playing the drawbridge sequence? 03:58 I'm within 3 tiles 03:58 "You extract a strange sound from the tooled horn named CECFD" doesn't sound right 03:58 I am highlighting the drawbridge 03:58 I am using the option offered to me to autoplay the passtune 03:59 Okay, turns out I have to be literally humping the fucking portcullis in order for it to even respond with the jamming 04:00 yes, you should always get feedback. 04:00 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:00 if you don't get feedback, something's not right 04:00 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 5708 points, T:2309, killed by a horned devil 04:00 Hey, guys, do you think I'm ready to take on Medusa in my current state? I'm not sure. 04:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a human mummy, on T:4935 04:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) became permanently corrupted into a human mummy, on T:4935 04:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 6392 points, T:4942, withered away, while stuck in human mummy form 04:01 Post kit 04:02 uhh 04:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 121 points, T:126, killed by a red mold 04:03 +3 CoMR, Speed boots, wwBoots, "oR, "oLS, +2 Excal, +3 Grayswandir, and a -3 puddingbane 04:04 sorry, my joke fell flat, I was more trying to get people to see the insanity that is my current screen 04:04 Gremlins? 04:04 Umbire: "within 3 tiles" seems wrong. vanilla and unnethack both only look for a tile next to you. https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.7/src/music.c#L744 04:04 worse 04:04 Alright, hold on a second magnetor 04:05 bhaak: As in "I was playing within 3 tiles of the bridge because walking up on it seems like a Not-Good idea" 04:05 (over?)cautiousness and all 04:06 Also while you're here, the paranoidtrap-while-flying thing also seems to not work, though you may be aware of that idkl 04:06 magnetor: haven't seen a good pudding farm in a while 04:06 Yeah that's just 04:06 that's just how it is 04:07 Yeah, the whole level is full, and I'm pretty sure a few mons went extinct in the time it took me to get here 04:08 Anyway, while I'm back up here may as well find which turret actually had the wand of wishing 04:09 Umbire: hmm, why did I do "(Levitation && !Flying)"? that means, it works for lev but not for fly 04:09 lol 04:09 But yeah, it also seems to not have gone through on the git 04:09 (saw it when I was trawling for scare monster changes 04:09 thanks gh for not letting me search forks) 04:10 not to mention github has less than ideal search parsing 04:10 If I could search at all it wouldn't be an issue 04:10 subpar parsing is w/e for a quick peek 04:11 bhaak: Also, what's the rules on artifact wishing 04:11 May as well get that out of the way beforehand 04:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Zefnar's ghost, the former Empiric, on T:17261 04:15 Umbire: wish as much as you want 04:15 Coo' 04:16 ...not that there's any artifacts I actually want at this point... 04:16 there aren't that many wishes anyway, so why should it be restricted 04:16 well, one rule. Thiefbane is off limits 04:17 Yeah but I'm working with a SoR anyway 04:17 no lawful reflection artis 04:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:17717 04:18 and all the others are either cross-aligned or take up a slot I'm using 04:19 [hdf-eu] [spl] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:42764 04:19 no, "a" high priest of Moloch 04:19 ? 04:19 the regular priests can get a promotion 04:20 Oh, that's always been a thing 04:20 yeah but it looks strange in the livelog 04:20 But by default they're only one for each god 04:20 including Moloch 04:20 yup 04:20 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 04:20 there's* 04:24 Hmm, never thought to ask why stalker meat stuns you 04:25 <@hackemslashem> Ya what's up with that? 04:25 gnite 04:29 night 04:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:738 04:31 [hdf-eu] [spl] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch (5 times), on T:42773 04:32 mobileuser: Do explain 04:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 3333 points, T:13965, quit 04:32 ...wait, porcelain 04:32 does that mean I had a diff./random one this whole time???? 04:33 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:8732 04:34 I fucking did! 04:35 and it was cursed but I had it! 04:35 every time I watch some curses I remember I should do the 3 statusline thing for curses, too 04:35 Think I grabbed it from the Valley 04:35 Well off to the fuckin' races then 04:39 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Leeroy (Bin Hum Mal Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:9908 04:39 Umbire what would you like me to explain? 04:40 <Beholder> [hdf-eu] [spl] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch (5 times), on T:42773 04:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Bar Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Kevkat's ghost, the former Adept, on T:19038 04:41 Like I already said, these guys get promotions, but the livelog is strange 04:41 [hdf-au] [un] Umbire (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "3 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:50266 04:41 Oh so you're just getting multiple with gain level or is it a sort of reverse Klingon promotion deal 04:41 I haven't killed the "real" one yet 04:42 (scrolls are for my markers btw) 04:42 I used conflict 04:42 [hdf-au] [un] Umbire (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:50267 04:42 Speaking of 04:42 Oh well there you go 04:42 Makes sense the livelog has a catch for that 04:44 Can't say I really want much more... 04:45 Eh fuck it 04:45 [hdf-au] [un] Umbire (Cav Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fireproof +3 speed boots", on T:50271 04:45 You gonna pull the "what the player got" bit from vanilla bhaak 04:45 or nah? 04:49 [hdf-au] [un] Umbire (Cav Dwa Mal Law) genocided master liches, on T:50339, rt[1 day, 13:39:29] 04:49 Almost forgot 04:50 <@Umbyre (he/him)> Uh huh. 04:50 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/990902034544873472/unknown.png 04:51 long worm is long 04:51 [hdf-eu] [spl] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:42819 04:52 Umbire: yes, it's on the TODO list 04:52 Bet 04:57 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:57 Junethack: New user moyajushi registered! https://junethack.net/user/moyajushi 04:58 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:9689 04:58 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:9690 04:59 [hdf-eu] [xnh] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3501 05:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 3293 points, T:3047, killed by a bolt of lightning 05:03 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) wished for "the great dagger of glaurgnaa", on T:9794 05:04 [hdf-eu] [xnh] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4259 05:05 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) wished for "magic marker", on T:9801 05:05 [hdf-eu] [xnh] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 3075 points, T:4274, killed by a wand 05:08 -!- magnetor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] wizard44 (Mon Hum Mal Cha) bestowed with Fire Brand by Huan Ti, on T:18797 05:09 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:9965 05:10 <@Umbyre (he/him)> how long have y'all been down here 05:10 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/990906944137101332/unknown.png 05:11 [hdf-au] [un] Umbire (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Vlad's tower, on T:50749, rt[1 day, 14:01:43] 05:11 ...huh. 05:11 @u?Vlad the Impaler 05:11 Vlad the Impaler (V) | Lvl: 28 | Diff: 32 | Spd: 24 | Res: sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: unique | AC: -6 | Attacks: 2d10 weapon physical, 1d12 bite level drain | Alignment: -10 | Flags: flies, breathless, regenerates, seeinvis, poisonous, nopoly, undead, stalker, covetous, infravisible 05:12 Time to fuck 'im up 05:12 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:10120 05:17 -!- yamamushi has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 05:19 Neat, so Vlad's portal lets you skip a bunch of Gehennom technically 05:19 Or fucking half of it even 05:20 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) killed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:10443 05:24 I rly should play unnethack it sounds cool but I know very little about it 05:24 [hdf-eu] [xnh] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) found Sting on the floor, on T:2604 05:25 Let's get this overwith 05:27 amateurhour: it's very easy. trust me 05:27 [hdf-au] [un] Umbire (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:51054 05:27 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 48990 points, T:12835, suffocated by a gelatinous cube 05:27 Oh, and I was burdened. Stupid. 05:28 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:11267 05:28 as a general rule I trust you bhaak but now I'm very suspicious 05:28 :) 05:29 I'm inclined to agree honestly 05:29 Mind the weeping angels though, they apparently disappear pets 05:30 unnethack has weeping angels as well? 05:30 Yeh but they're not like dnh by a long shot 05:30 still annoying 05:30 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:11412 05:31 ...alright, so. 05:31 Color alchemy. 05:31 Let's say I wanna make swirly potions... 05:31 Guess smoky potions just fucked off this game btw 05:32 >swirly is colorless 05:32 look at the in game database 05:32 Of course it fucking is 05:32 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) wished for "unholy water", on T:11418 05:33 [hdf-eu] [xnh] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) found Mjollnir on the floor, on T:3336 05:33 [hdf-eu] [xnh] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) found Giantslayer on the floor, on T:3343 05:33 [hdf-eu] [spl] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:43803 05:38 [hdf-eu] [xnh] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 3450 points, T:3562, killed by a rothe, while being terrified of a ghost 05:39 [hdf-eu] [spl] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:43819 05:43 -!- phoneCebolla has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:44 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:11652 05:47 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:11677 05:48 And within seconds of entering Gehennom, worm gets level tele'd 05:48 Hilarious 05:49 Anyway, break 05:49 Nini 05:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 05:52 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) killed Mr. Prosser, on T:12847 05:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] MrWarthog (Mon Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1976 05:54 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:12955 05:54 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) killed Medusa, on T:13058 05:59 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:14239 06:00 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1378 06:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] MrWarthog (Mon Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2672 06:09 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 06:19 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2414 points, T:2248, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a monster's gaze 06:19 I need to somehow learn to stop making mistakes. 06:20 <@malor> evil is a hard place to learn that I would think? 06:20 to err is to be human 06:20 maybe try a different race 06:24 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 06:35 amateurhour: https://dpaste.org/x1K5z 06:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Malcanthet, on T:142417 06:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Nob Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:35, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:44 [hdf-us] [ndnh] post163 (Kni Clk Fem Law), 60 points, T:65, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 06:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2 points, T:34, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:49 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 34 points, T:187, killed by an electric shock 06:49 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 06:49 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 40 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of earth 06:50 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Fem Cha), 14 points, T:92, slipped while mounting a saddled baby shimmering dragon 06:51 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Twilight Sparkle 06:51 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 20 points, T:21, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Rarity 06:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Pinkie Pie 06:52 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:59, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 41 points, T:74, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:53 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:11, slipped while mounting a saddled baby gold dragon 07:03 -!- phinxy has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.5-dev] 07:04 -!- phinxy has joined #hardfought 07:07 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Sam Hum Fem Law), 11106 points, T:5990, killed by a wolf 07:12 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 07:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 495 points, T:1020, killed by an elven arrow 07:23 amateurhour: YANI archive updated through 2021 Sep 30 07:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Applejack 07:26 <@hackemslashem> Anybody know which variants implement the 1+1=2 alchemy? I remember reading an article about why alchemy is busted and sounds interesting to try 07:29 not sure if anyone has, but if someone did it would probably be FIQhack 07:30 -!- Bleeko has joined #hardfought 07:30 @hackemslashem unnethack has that now. 07:30 it makes more sense for mixing colors 07:31 <@hackemslashem> What the, i didn't even notice this month! 07:32 <@hackemslashem> Probably cuz i didn't really try any alchemy, i have a little worksheet for color alchemy but my printer is busted 07:33 <@hackemslashem> Usually though brown is the most important one to know... 07:33 i tried this https://archive.org/details/HACK103 07:34 the ingame database also shows now if a potion is colorless or not and what kind of colored potion it is 07:34 thanks for the reminder wrt 1+1=2 07:34 and when i try to take the stairs down to level 2 a mysterious force prevents me from descending 07:34 what's up with that 07:34 I think I'll go ahead with that when june is over 07:34 bhaak: I was personally never a fan of color alchemy :P 07:34 because potions aren't paint buckets 07:34 neither am I 07:34 it's bizarre flavour 07:35 because that and you can randomly get things like sickness + fruit juice = full healing 07:35 it also has gameplay implications 07:35 if potions aren't paint why do you get effects from huffing them 07:35 of course they are not! they are magic paint buckets 07:35 that I dislike 07:35 yeah like ^ 07:35 appearance shouldn't have significant gameplay impact imo because that sort of thing is out of your control 07:36 you already have that in varios degress. for example glass objects are brittle and can break 07:36 and can make a game unnecessarily easy (the example aosdict brought up) or unnecessarily hard (silver rings = slow digestion for un vampire) 07:36 I had the latter in my 2016 un ascension... that was fun :P 07:36 <@hackemslashem> That sucks haha 07:36 amateurhour: do you know why a mysterious force would prevent me from taking the stairs down to level 2 in Hack v1.03? 07:36 at least you can actually use silver items 07:37 iirc vanilla 3.7 just straight-up doesn't allow it 07:37 qt: IIRC this also happens if there is a problem generating the level? 07:37 in Un it merely froze your regeneration 07:37 <@hackemslashem> I think it's funny that slashthem randomly gives you bottles when quaffing. 07:37 iirc I actually wore a ring of regeneration that game for this reason 07:37 probably the only time I actually used the ring 07:37 FIQ: yeah, that's a strange restriction. 07:37 bhaak: oh maybe the Archive.org version is just broken 07:38 bhaak: at least it made a ring generally agreed upon as being useless, useful :) 07:38 i was off to a great start though, I drank a potion that brought my str from 10 to 18/65 07:38 assuming I recall things correctly 07:38 maybe the ring doesn't work either 07:39 qt it looks like if it can't lock or create the level file it'll do that 07:39 quickly downloaded the source 07:39 just checked my dumplog, I don't have a ring of regeneration with me 07:39 so I guess I was wrong then 07:40 I do however have Skilled in healing skill and a ton of healing potions of various flavours lol 07:41 I guess it doesn't have disk access in the online dosbox 07:41 it errors out if I try to save, too 07:41 qt: indeed: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Source:Hack_1.0/hack.do.c#line463 07:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) averted death, on T:143701 07:46 weird, when you quit it dumps you into a dos prompt 07:46 and I can copy files in there 07:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1497 points, T:2308, killed by a hill orc, while reading a book 07:46 lol 07:46 it doesn't seem to have trouble with disk access 07:46 sounds like someone didn't set it up right 07:47 it tries 07:47 to make a sub directory? 07:48 the save file is supposed to be in c:\hack103\save but that directory doesn't exist 07:49 ok 07:49 saving works if I change the location to C:\SAVE\ 07:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 12594 points, T:11252, killed by an invisible gargoyle 07:49 after 'mkdir hack103\save' 07:49 saving works 07:50 I just found that too, let's see about going to level two after md hack103\levels 07:51 yeah 07:51 it works 07:51 ah, "levels" of course 07:51 I was looking for that directory name in the code 07:51 so I guess the archive.org setup is wrong somehow. they have 'save' and 'levels' right at the root of C: 07:51 instead of within a hack103 directory 07:52 no help to my poor tourist with +4 darts and 18/64 str, he was going to go far 07:52 I mean, it's the DOS version. that's torture anywhere, I almost blew my ear drums out when the pc beeper startet 07:55 https://0x0.st/oSJS.png hmm, Michaeescaped-6 07:55 [hdf-au] [un] Orcranger (Rog Hum Fem Cha) entered Moria, on T:16814, rt[4:19:01] 07:55 I don't know why it says 41 points, it told me I had 642 points when I escaped the dungeon with the guy stuck on dlvl1 https://0x0.st/oSJQ.png 07:56 I did have 41 hit points though... maybe it's reading the record file in some screwed up way 07:57 bugs! 07:58 [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fireproof +2 cloak of magic resistance", on T:7830 07:58 qt: I can get you the email of Andries Brouwer if you want to write a bug report? 08:00 -!- crns has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:00 [hdf-us] [nh343] bleeko (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:47590 08:01 lol 08:02 -!- crns has joined #hardfought 08:02 -!- crns has quit [Changing host] 08:02 -!- crns has joined #hardfought 08:02 it is weird though, my "killed by an acid blob" guy seen in that topten became "2 10 6 TM Michaeacid blob-1 was killed on level 1 [max 2] by an acid blob" 08:03 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:03 someone got hit by a bit too much acid 08:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given Ogresmasher, on T:144176 08:09 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 08:11 huh what's this https://archive.org/details/ChrHack 08:11 it's like a tiles version? sort of? 08:12 seems so 08:13 from the look of it, it could also just be a custom font. the Amiga version had that, too. but mostly for walls and similar things 08:14 it seems somewhat unfinished or broken since it says "Change monster icons to resemble nasty things trying to kill you instead of letters", but the monsters all look like the normal letters to me 08:14 not that tiles were anything new 08:14 I kind of like the wavy walls 08:15 very funky 08:16 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:15190 08:16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ23_adKN48 08:17 https://web.archive.org/web/20210607230252/http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2007/05/_play_hacks_lost_brother.php 08:18 before we had to go back to graphicless stone age computer like DOS and UNIX, there were lots of roguelikes with graphical tiles already in the 80s 08:18 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:15229 08:20 https://www.mobygames.com/game/amiga/hack-lite/screenshots 08:21 the description there claims that it already had a tournament mode with seeded runs. didn't know that 08:22 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:15293 08:23 https://www.mobygames.com/game/amiga/hack-lite/screenshots/gameShotId,787115/ 08:23 aw poor doggy 08:23 post163 doesn't that image make you feel bad for killing your pets on T:1 all the time 08:23 so loyal to his master 08:23 he's crying :( 08:24 [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Ruggo the Gnome King, on T:9151 08:24 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:15318 08:25 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha) wished for "blessed wand of death", on T:15329 08:25 i like this thing a lot from the title screen https://termbin.com/ygxx 08:25 bhaak: can you add that to the nethack title screen too 08:26 [hdf-eu] [slth] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha), 1736508 points, T:15342, ascended 08:26 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hackemslashem/slashthem/dumplog/1656279064.slth.txt 08:26 congrats @hackemslashem 08:26 <@hackemslashem> tx k2 πŸ™‚ 08:27 qt: can't do. that was the name of his software company :) 08:27 devteam should acquire his software company for the rights to use it 08:28 qt: I mailed him ... about a decade ago ... and asked if he would open source the code to hacklite. nope, he has still plans for it :-) 08:29 were there features or monsters unique to it, or was the draw just the graphics (and the great ascii art on the title screen) 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh343] bleeko (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:47903 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 590 points, T:1340, killed by a rothe 08:29 [hdf-eu] [spl] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) annihilated class D, on T:44003 08:30 https://www.mobygames.com/game/atari-st/rogue/screenshots/gameShotId,220259/ 08:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Kas, on T:68990 08:30 those tiles look familiar 08:31 the lineage of the tiles graphics is somewhat unexplored. I wouldn't even bet that the rogue's tiles were original 08:31 hacklite was a genuine fork of hack. it was not just the graphics 08:31 -!- phoneCebolla has joined #hardfought 08:31 i'm gettin the There is already a game in progress under your name. Destroy old game? [yn] on spicyflump20kWOW 08:32 K2: ^ 08:32 the @Play mentions a few things. like no general BUC, only equipment can be cursed. 08:33 I'm reading it now. You've played this yourself bhaak? 08:35 yes, even back then when it came out 08:35 so what did prayer do? it sounds very mysterious from the article 08:35 dunno :) 08:36 it's been 30 years and I don't remember if I even ever prayed in it 08:36 Junethack: hackemslashem ascended a game of SlashTHEM on eu.hardfought.org! 08:37 what about a ring of addiction 08:37 never encountered that 08:38 it's also possible that those were additions to the second version that was released. I think I played the first one 08:38 the DOS port is on archive.org 08:38 https://archive.org/details/HACKLITE 08:38 presumably this is some kind of copyright infringement 08:39 you can play as a gangster 08:39 well, it says it's freeware on the title screen, so maybe it's allowed 08:40 "You might even end up in Hell!" 08:40 a gangster starts with 3 slices of pizza, a sling and sling bullets, a wand of striking, rings, and booze 08:40 sounds like a gangster alright 08:40 there's documentation and the paragraph talks about praying and it sounds like nethack's pray but apparently, you can be sent deep down 08:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] bleeko (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed partly eaten chickatrice corpse", on T:48124 08:42 <@Spider74656> gratz, hackemslashem! 08:43 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:307 08:43 [hdf-us] [nh343] bleeko (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:48147 08:44 Drink from the fountain? y You spy a rainbow in the distance. 08:44 this guy predicted aosdict's new valkyrie quest 08:44 amazing 08:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 130 points, T:382, killed by a goblin 08:44 <@Spider74656> either that or it's a Pride thing for June? 08:45 Drink from the fountain? y You spy bizarre instakill anti-magic traps in the distance. 08:45 WOW 08:45 this is unbelievable 08:45 this man was a prophet 08:45 phoneCebolla - it would help a lot if you could tell me which game you're trying to play 08:46 qt, aosdict is the author, he travelled back in time so this moment, here and now, could occur 08:46 [hdf-us] [nh343] bleeko (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Pestilence, on T:48182 08:47 qt: carefully, I'm looking at the binary and there are lots of monster names around the place where apparently the fountain effects: water demon^@water nymph^@sea serpent^@water sprite^@^@water shoggoth^@^@giant eel^@giant octopus^@wet slimy thing^@killer whale^@^@killer jellyfish^@^@mermaid^@giant lamprey^@great white shark 08:47 [hdf-us] [nh343] bleeko (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:48211 08:47 qt: You hear something %sing!^@tick^@^@hiss^@^@%s! An endless stream of %ss pours forth!^@^@Bummer^@^@Bad idea^@^@monster^@snake^@The fountain bubbles furiously for a moment, then calms.^@^@You have unleashed a %s!^@^@You have released something from the fountain!^@^@Grateful for its release, it grants you a wish!^@You smell brimstone.^@^@You hear someone %s nearby.^@laughing gaily^@^@giggling^@^@You have attracted a %s!^@^@You notice 08:47 oh, this is splicehack 08:47 a faint scent of perfume.^@^@You get very wet.^@Water gushes forth from the overflowing fountain!^@The water seems rather gritty.^@^@You spot a gem in the sparkling waters!^@An urge to take a bath nearly overwhelms you.^@You lost some of your gold in the fountain!^@The fountain dries up!^@^@That quenched your thirst!^@^@The water is contaminated!^@^@Perhaps it is runoff from a nearby orange farm.^@polluted fountain^@You feel 08:48 invigorated!^@Overall, there is a smell of fried onions.^@^@You spy a rainbow in the distance.^@^@You hear birdsong in the distance.^@^@The cool draught refreshes you.^@The water is foul! You gag and vomit.^@^@What a relief!^@^@The water tastes strangely bitter!^@^@)[=+^@^@Your third eye opens.^@Everything seems much clearer now.^@^@You feel oddly disturbed.^@Far below you, you %s coins glistening in the water.^@^@sense^@see^@This 08:48 water gives you bad breath!^@^@seem^@^@look^@^@The writing on the scroll%s %s.^@^@^@s^@fades^@smears^@^@!/*(0^@Brrrzzzzaaap!! You sure fried that wand!^@^@Your weapon rusts somewhat.^@Your weapon %ss quite rusted.^@Your %s rusts somewhat.^@helmet^@^@armor^@Your %s %ss quite rusted.^@A murky hand from the depths reaches up to bless the sword.^@As the hand retreats, the fountain disappears!^@^@She steals the %s!^@^@You almost dropped %s 08:48 in the water!^@it^@^@them^@^@The water glows for a moment.^@Your weapon %ser now.^@feels clean^@seems bright^@^@Your %s %ser now.^@You get goose bumps.^@^@A strange tingling runs up your arm.^@^@You feel a sudden chill.^@^@Well, %s %s%s wet now. 08:48 oops. 08:48 mods bhaak is spamming give me voice instead of him 08:48 thank 08:48 you can clearly see the heritage of hack. not sure if nethack stuff is in there, too. 08:49 [hdf-us] [nh343] bleeko (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:48242 08:49 You hear something %sing! <-- nice, I can't imagine a creature happily singing in the fountain could do me harm 08:49 phoneCebolla game recovered 08:50 thanks! 08:50 wizmoded a bit and got a clue for the multiclassing bug - nbn dragonriders can't multiclass at all, but fem/cha ones can 08:50 and i will deffo not be able to wear dragon armor even by multiclassing 08:50 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Sam Hum Fem Law), 13973 points, T:6196, killed by a gnome lord 08:50 they already used up all their multiclassing points by multiclassing male/female 08:50 tho that part's intended 08:50 [hdf-us] [nh343] bleeko (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed Famine, on T:48276 08:51 why didnt auto recover make it back into splicehack? 08:51 it used to be there 08:51 yeah bring back autorecover >:) 08:51 i think demo said he'd farm free wins if it was in? 08:51 but that just helps you find all the crashes easier! 08:51 >:) 08:51 [hdf-us] [nh343] bleeko (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4613976 points, T:48282, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/b/bleeko/nh343/dumplog/1655944529.nh343.txt 08:51 or *someone* said it can be abused and implied they might 08:51 gratz bleeko 08:51 Thanks 08:52 someone probably said I'd do that 08:52 and if someone repeatly crashes the game over and over, it draws my attention. i get emailed crash reports 08:52 *repeatedly 08:52 It was me that said I might do that 08:52 also k2 changed the crash handling 08:52 <@Spider74656> gg bleeko! 08:52 so I can't use it for wish farming anymore 08:52 just stupid mistake panic button 08:53 you can, if K2 gets mad just redirect the complaints to the variant devs or /dev/null 08:53 [hdf-eu] [un] nurdglaw (Hea Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1811, rt[0:55:53] 08:53 mobileuser: would you multiclass pirate or priestess, with dragonrider? 08:54 the coredumps are way too big 08:54 K2: but I only traveled back in time and made hacklite because this moment occurred in the first place - a paradox 08:54 that would be a dos attack 08:54 noooooo 08:54 <@Spider74656> which variant has Dragonriders?? 08:54 hmm, maybe some kinda limit on number of coredumps per variant (that's not stupid small like 1) 08:55 I mean, anyone can saddle and ride a dragon 08:55 emails are way too annoying. thats like a spam attack 08:55 <@Spider74656> oh, I thought you were referring to it as a separate class, like Knight. 08:55 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Dragon_rider 08:55 Junethack: Bleeko ascended a game of NetHack 3.4.3 on www.hardfought.org! 08:56 <@Spider74656> ty phoneCebolla! I had the image of Anne McCaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern in my head (one of my fave series)... 08:57 no, don't go there. she sued open source games before 08:58 <@Spider74656> oh. I know there were discussions of a movie but the ideas floated were never satisfactory to her. 08:58 what's the story there bhaak? 08:59 what would become TOME was originally PernAngband 08:59 these baby dragons melt shopkeepers, instead of causing their riders to unexpectedly experience sex 08:59 and then a French teenage boy got mail from her lawyers 08:59 not much like pern at all 08:59 She may be less litigious what with being dead and all (or her estate may be just as litigious, IDK) 08:59 I haven't ever read that series, the dragons have sex with people? 08:59 im buying this NOW 09:00 <@Spider74656> Nope, but they're telepathic & their linked riders, well... 09:00 not quite, if two dragons have sex, their riders experience sex 09:00 i've suddenly lost interest 09:00 phoneCebolla I am not using multiclass 09:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] lithium (Hea Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1346 09:00 Pinkbeast: it's of course funny that he transformed it into Tales of Middle Earth which is also a copyright minefield :-) 09:00 she should sue the dragon dildo company for stealing the "dragon sex" concept 09:01 also Texas Hold'em 09:01 <@Spider74656> Her son's got the rights to continue the books. She may have been careful about artistic control, but the series is VERY good reading imho. 09:01 And one where we _know_ - well, not the estate, but the movie company the estate gave some rights to is notoriously litigious 09:01 for stealing the idea of Holding 09:01 qt: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-will-fight-you/id1073824788 i've never actually read it, but this podcast gives me a run-down of nerdy things that i've missed out on 09:02 pern sounds hilarious the way they tell it 09:03 [hdf-au] [dnh] kaguya (And-Ana And Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:3328 09:03 dragon sex sounds like it could have been an inspiration for Avatar 09:03 "The bonding instantly creates a very close, lifelong relationship – the dragon almost invariably commits suicide at the rider's death and a rider whose dragon died bears a deep emotional wound which can never be fully healed." 09:03 not naming names but sounds to me like one of the people in this relationship is more committed than the other 09:05 fair enough mobi 09:05 how lewd is it compared to that one scene in avatar 09:05 i wanna try it now that you count as being both roles for ROLE_IF macros 09:05 seems so. there are cases of dog-owner relationships where both side could die of broken heart 09:06 <@Spider74656> I haven't read all of them, but I've read the vast majority she herself wrote. The characters are well thought out, the backstory (via a many-centuries-earlier prequel) is clever, and the consequences over centuries make sense. (And btw a major-character former dragonrider who lost his dragon is pretty depressive and morose, long-term, but does live.) 09:07 qt: suddenly eragon seems a lot more derivative 09:08 eragon is stupidly derivative 09:08 <@Spider74656> And most of it isn't particularly lewd, but there's definitely romance & sex in it. I read the 1st-written book @ age 12, with a very sheltered upbringing, and was confused by the emotions in it, but still went on to read the next several books before leaving teen-hood. 09:08 pretty sure its just the belgariad meets riders of pern 09:09 I have riders of pern books 2 and 3 that I got from a little free library, I want to read them but I haven't found book 1 yet 09:09 <@Spider74656> Oooh, another of my fave series! 09:09 <@Spider74656> Pern bk1 = Dragonflight, often available @ libraries or used-book shops. 09:09 aosdict: why don't you just check it out of a big free library like the NYPL? 09:10 I could probably do that yep 09:10 I have my big fancy KNOWLEDGE IS POWER library card now 09:10 i have a location like 2 blocks from my house that has been permanently closed since covid started 09:10 really annoying 09:10 <@Spider74656> OK, I have the DVD of Eragon but haven't watched it yet. I'll put it in the "watch soon" list, so I can compare. 09:10 noooo 09:11 <@Spider74656> eeeep....still closed? AAAAAACCCCCCKKK!!!!! 09:11 the eragon books may be derivative but the movie is absolute crap 09:11 spare yourself 09:11 <@Spider74656> oh, so I should find+read the books first, I take it? 09:11 just don't watch the film 09:11 ever 09:12 lol 09:12 "there is no formal religion and nothing like the Medieval Church, the closest equivalent being in fact the Dragonriders, who have a planet-wide organization and to whom a tithe is due – though they are in no way sworn to celibacy (rather the reverse)." 09:12 <@Spider74656> Ah. 09:12 they're sworn to bone all the time? 09:12 church of foocubi 09:12 my brother, at the monastary we take a solemn vow of fuckability 09:12 that just sounds like the classic trope of underground orgies 09:13 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 09:15 <@Spider74656> no, but they protect the planet from uber-destructive spaceborne Threads (hence the tithe to support them), and are far less prudish than the Holders (who are most of the planet's population). It's set in beast-n-cart, sword-n-dagger technology. 09:15 <@Spider74656> At least for most of the series, anyway. The prequel isn't. 09:17 at vespers we begin our solemn ritual of pickup artistry 09:17 <@Spider74656> hehe. McCaffrey very intentionally set up a world w/o religion, & once argued w/a fan about that. 09:18 bro, if you dont have a HB10 in your cell by compline you're out of the sex monastery 09:19 <@Spider74656> But does your pickup artistry include the all-important DINNER RESERVATION? 09:21 [hdf-eu] [spl] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) annihilated class ;, on T:44148 09:23 the monks dine simply and communally on pizza and white claw 09:24 <@Spider74656> then when do they do their pickup artistry? 09:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Spider74656 (Val Swn Fem Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:5812 09:25 [hdf-eu] [un] nurdglaw (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 636 points, T:3422, killed by a hill orc 09:25 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 09:26 i think the evening meal might be between vespers and compline, so I guess it would be before the meal, but you're stretching my knowledge of monasteries 09:27 so the monastery is basically just a frat 09:27 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:28 i dont think that works well as an analogy 09:28 because i think they are doing a lot of gay stuff there 09:29 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 09:29 its not reverse celibacy without fucking everything that is ok with it 09:29 maybe that happens at matins 09:31 perhaps the task of reconciling perpetual orgy and a regimented, cloistered life was impossible to begin with 09:31 but i tried... let it be known i tried my best 09:37 wow bhaak this hacklite game has spiders laying webs as they move around the map 09:37 <@Spider74656> well, how ELSE are we supposed to catch our dinners? 09:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 75 points, T:281, killed by a falling rock 09:39 I thought that was added in 3.7, was it an old feature that was just revived or was hack lite the originator of it? 09:40 I don't know why the reviewer thought prayer was mysterious, I just prayed at 2hp and got fully healed. seems very similar to how it works in nethack 09:40 [hdf-eu] [spl] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:44312 09:42 qt: PatR would usually reference something that was an inspiration "idea from X, NIH code" :), so I guess it was just an "obvious" feature 09:43 it says it comes from/was inspired by xnh 09:43 so, more evidence of aosdict's involvement with this hack lite game 09:44 oh, maybe this is why the reviewer was confused about praying for food: it doesn't directly fill you up, but it generates food on a square next to you 09:44 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 09:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 174 points, T:192, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:46 some things are pretty obvious in hindsight 09:47 like not autopickup for unpaid items in shops or me adding the price to shop items, so you don't have to chat for every item 09:47 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 82 points, T:310, killed by a system shock 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (humans), on T:1 09:49 [hdf-eu] [slth] Concrete (Bar Tro Mal Cha), 50759 points, T:6697, quit 09:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 09:51 [hdf-us] [slth] post163 (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 0 points, T:6, killed by a falling object 09:51 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Nob Vam Fem Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:843 09:52 hack lite is pretty fun. I did die of starvation, but what can you do 09:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:26, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Rarity 09:52 I probably wouldn't have if I hadn't spent hundreds of turns chasing a nymph around the level after she stole my stuff 09:52 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Sam Hum Fem Law), 12192 points, T:5234, killed by a bolt of lightning 09:53 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 0 points, T:45, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Twilight Sparkle 09:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed magic lamp", on T:68963 09:55 -!- pescepalla has joined #hardfought 09:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 237 points, T:529, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:55 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 7 points, T:53, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:56 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 16 points, T:28, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:57 the justpicked category is so convenient 09:57 -!- Heliokopis has joined #hardfought 09:57 I love it, great addition to the game 09:57 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Nbn Law), 209 points, T:226, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:00 [hdf-us] [spl] bleeko (Kni Vam Fem Cha), 7 points, T:5, slipped while mounting a saddled vampiric pony called post163bane 10:02 -!- kewldewd has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:02 [hdf-eu] [slth] Concrete (Rog Kob Mal Cha), 925 points, T:1199, killed by a kitten 10:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1069 10:03 ATTN Devs - please consider a pony trophy for post163 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2486 10:04 full support 10:06 I see a maximally incompetent knight, unsuited for riding 10:06 hah 10:10 <@Spider74656> possibly a "slipper" trophy? 10:10 <@Spider74656> aka a greasy riding boot... 10:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2567 points, T:2882, killed by a pony 10:14 [hdf-eu] [spl] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:44327 10:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 63 points, T:62, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:17 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:11525 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 564 points, T:905, killed by a death ray 10:23 <@Zefnar> DWOTD 10:23 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Nob Vam Fem Cha), 2894 points, T:1089, killed by a water moccasin 10:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5565 10:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 10:24 [hdf-us] [ndnh] post163 (Nob Vam Fem Cha), 257 points, T:59, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 2 points, T:28, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 19 points, T:130, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:25 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 10 points, T:77, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:25 [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Krooella the Kobold Queen, on T:16993 10:26 [hdf-us] [slth] malor (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Kroo the Kobold King, on T:17015 10:28 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Bar Mer Mal Neu), 570 points, T:603, killed by a dwarf 10:29 -!- Heliokopis has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:30 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 10:31 [hdf-eu] [spl] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu) put Death down for a little nap, on T:44369 10:31 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 10:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2490 points, T:6145, killed by a soldier ant 10:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1530 points, T:1638, killed by a bugbear 10:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed PetraKelly's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1758 10:44 [hdf-us] [dyn] Heliokpis (Heliokopis) (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2062 points, T:1418, killed by a dart 10:45 !who 10:45 Demo: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [nh343] karibou [nh370] post163 [nh370] Zefnar [nh370] PetraKelly [nh370] musicdemon [un] Alasnuyo [dnh] Spider74656 [dnh] whatever [xnh] qt [xnh] woodstea23 [slshm] sluggoman [evil] krm26 [evil] df [slth] Heliokopis [dyn] | [hdf-eu] Raisse [nh343] pescepalla [nh370] nurdglaw [dnh] Vis [dnh] Leeroy [dnh] | [hdf-au] Tangles [slshm] 10:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful chameleon, on T:70271 10:46 wtf 10:46 i magic whistled him to the stairs and a fire trap killed him 10:47 no jury would convict me of murder for that. maybe some kind of manslaughter. 10:47 or hobgoblinslaughter 10:49 <@Zefnar> lol 10:52 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed greased gjallar", on T:71495 10:54 <@post163> I've found xnethack to be... a bit different when it comes to pets dying to traps. The game has charged me with killing my pet after a failed untrapping attempt (trying to remove a dart or an arrow trap for instance). 10:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:59 [hdf-us] [nh343] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the Chromatic Dragon, on T:39826 10:59 [hdf-us] [nh343] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Fem Neu) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:39828 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 632 points, T:1903, killed by a dwarf 11:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 575 points, T:2207, killed by a giant ant 11:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:51000 11:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Rog Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:51033 11:06 aosdict: why did you make me a murderer 11:06 me and post163 11:06 your fingerprints are all over this frame-up job 11:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed fixed Platinum Yendorian Express Card", got "a credit card named the Platinum Yendorian Express Card", on T:2998 11:07 <@Zefnar> well, this should be fun 11:07 <@Zefnar> mines lvl 1 /oW not sure how many charges 11:08 <@Zefnar> ?:1 11:08 <@Umbyre (he/him)> And you didn't wish for charging 11:08 <@Zefnar> card is charging isnt it? 11:08 it gives uncursed charging for non-tourists 11:08 so it won't give a full charge 11:08 <@Umbyre (he/him)> Only Tourists can get blessed charging 11:08 <@Zefnar> eh, thats fine 11:08 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 11:09 <@Shadow_Rider> lol but you could be missing out on wishes 11:09 <@Zefnar> 2 blessed charging first, then wish for card? /shrug 11:09 <@Zefnar> its a stupid early wand anyway 11:10 <@Zefnar> i can at the very least get a SDSM out of it 11:10 <@Zefnar> and then , what? 11:10 <@Zefnar> im set 11:10 <@Umbyre (he/him)> until you die to poison spikes 11:10 <@Zefnar> and blessed scrolls of charging and one extra wish save me because... i wish for tins of shrieker meat? 11:11 [hdf-eu] [spl] mobileuser (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 2783618 points, T:44383, ascended 11:11 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/splicehack/dumplog/1655888030.splice.html 11:11 phew! 11:11 <@Umbyre (he/him)> it'd be more sensible to, say, revgeno quivering blobs 11:11 \o/ 11:11 <@Shadow_Rider> Gratz! 11:11 <@Zefnar> LMAO more like I die to artifact blasting hp 8/46 11:11 <@Zefnar> that would have been hilarious 11:12 thanks! that's 5 out 5 :b 11:12 <@Shadow_Rider> 5/5? 11:12 <@Shadow_Rider> gg 11:12 <@Umbyre (he/him)> another reason blessed charging scrolls >>> 11:12 <@Umbyre (he/him)> gg btw 11:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +3 silver dragon scale mail", got "a greased silver dragon scale mail", on T:3013 11:12 <@Shadow_Rider> if you are gonna wish for a tin do green dragon 11:12 <@Shadow_Rider> I support revgeno blobs tho 11:13 <@Zefnar> nah im not gonna wish for pois resist , at least not yet 11:13 <@Zefnar> too much dungeon to explore, too much opportunity 11:13 <@Umbyre (he/him)> green dragon is the best tin wish 11:13 <@Umbyre (he/him)> quivering blob is the safest rev geno with the best odds you get the intrinsic 11:13 <@Umbyre (he/him)> (and also you learn the geno scroll) 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker named tinofshriekermeat", got "a magic marker named tinofshriekermeat", on T:3051 11:15 <@Shadow_Rider> this is what everyone says before they walk into a spiked pit 11:15 <@Spider74656> gratz mobileuser 11:15 thx! 11:15 <@Zefnar> wrested for marker. :) the rubicon has been crossed 11:16 <@Zefnar> got PYEC and SDSM and a marker for free. game on! 11:16 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6511 11:20 <@Spider74656> credit card + marker (to sign with) + nifty suit. Anywhere but Roguelikes, you'd be set for a spending spree @ high-class stores, followed by the inevitable groans as the credit card bills came in. "You receive a scroll of mail"--it's a bill.... 11:20 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Fir Dop Fem Neu), 676 points, T:884, killed by a centipede, while fainted from lack of food 11:21 I wonder how you put on gauntlets of power on top of your rings 11:21 they're metal gloves 11:23 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Moria, on T:27124, rt[10:24:07] 11:24 don't you put your rings on the gloves? 11:24 silver rings give silver damage when boxing, even with gloves, don't they? 11:24 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in five variants" unlocked by mobileuser! 11:24 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in five variants" unlocked by mobileuser! 11:24 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in five variants" unlocked by mobileuser! 11:24 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended five variants" unlocked by mobileuser! 11:25 Junethack: mobileuser ascended a game of SpliceHack on eu.hardfought.org! 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2570 11:26 <@Umbyre (he/him)> Nope, has to be without 11:26 <@Umbyre (he/him)> Rings on fingers, gloves over fingers 11:26 marker to sign with... haha you must be american 11:26 now apologize hothraxxa... it's in your blood 11:27 sorry 11:27 :) 11:27 * K2 slides over a zorkmid to the 'sorry' jar 11:27 it's just hilarious that the us is just discovering tap 11:28 <@Zefnar> You finish eating the giant spider corpse. You feel healthy. 11:28 <@Zefnar> bring on the spiked pits 11:28 the funniest part is that some american friends were telling me that after tapping the merchant still insisted that they sign 11:28 <@Spider74656> hehehe...some places provide pens for it, some (rarely) markers...tapping cards is fine, but signing on those screens is a lot harder than signing w/paper+writing utensil. 11:28 [hdf-eu] [dnh] nurdglaw (Con Hlf Mal Cha), 1828 points, T:2882, killed by a hill orc 11:28 <@Spider74656> and yes, they do. 11:28 that 'tap' tech is a great way to have your data stolen 11:29 not happening much here 11:29 -!- jmcunx has joined #hardfought 11:29 bhaak: if that was the case, then Un's vampires should regenerate with silver rings on top of gloves 11:29 <@Spider74656> really? I thought that chip was supposed to make data theft harder???? 11:29 also I think non-metal gloves insulate rings against destruction in modern vanilla 11:29 we're still required to have the mag strip on the back of the card too 11:29 a very much appreciated change 11:29 us banks suck 11:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Elf-Nob Elf Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1007 11:30 -!- jmcunx has left #hardfought 11:30 when we first started to receive cards with the chip, i was like 'awesome, so now when i pay for something online, i can use my card reader and verify with my PIN' 11:30 NOPE 11:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:9868 11:30 pin verification not required, or even offered 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Ran Elf Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Lilje", on T:3064 11:30 K2: how does tap tech get your stuff stolen? 11:31 idk the details here 11:31 <@Spider74656> true, but it never was if you used the Vi/MC network. only if you use a debit card AS debit. 11:31 is this some NFC thing? 11:31 a person with bad intentions can set up a reader close to where the card is used 11:31 yeah 11:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Rog Hum Fem Cha) changed form for first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:51470 11:31 yeah 11:32 <@Spider74656> true, but they were doing that before the chips came out--installing fake mag-strip readers... 11:32 bank cards is a ridiculously bad usecase for NFC 11:32 even just walking around with an NFC enabled card in your wallet, if its not shielded, someone can pull the data off of it 11:32 it's basically *asking* you to steal info 11:32 exactly 11:32 stuff like mag strips and whatever at least require physical contact 11:32 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Sam Hum Fem Law) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:9264 11:32 although, that being said 11:32 as long as you make it a rule to *always* require PIN, not just the card info 11:33 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha) wished for "2 cursed scrolls of genocide", got "2 scrolls labeled FNORD", on T:20491 11:33 it ought to be enough 11:33 dont they do that in europe? 11:33 I mean, consider older tech 11:33 pin is required? 11:33 you could just as well hijack one of those card reader things 11:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Student of Waters (level 14), on T:20501 11:33 to share card info to an undisclosed third party 11:33 <@Spider74656> but some credit cards don't even issue a PIN. 11:33 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in five variants" unlocked by nurdglaw! 11:33 Harder, sure -- current NFC system is way too easy 11:33 but far from impossible 11:33 I have a shielded wallet 11:34 it's not required for contactless payments under a certain value (UK) 11:34 K2: I always need to enter PIN yeah 11:34 Is that not a thing in the US...? 11:34 <@Spider74656> nope. 11:34 i thought my wallet was shielded, but not so much. i have a sleeve for my CC 11:34 -!- Heliokopis has joined #hardfought 11:34 No. The sort of "take a card reader on the Tube" attack was widely worried about - I still keep mine in a tinfoil wallet - but in practice didn't actually seem to happen, hence the increase in the significant value 11:34 but sometimes it'll request pin anyway 11:34 FIQ, no unfortunately it isnt 11:34 also yes, contactless goes up to 50 euros and when you reach that (even in different shops) it asks for pin 11:34 see if nfc were real risk, there should have been a rash of data theft 11:34 but that hasn't happened 11:34 or one single payment that's over 50 euros 11:35 NFC's range is 4cm so in practice this is a pretty difficult attack - and increasingly it's on people's phones not bank cards and the device isn't even _trying_ to pay the whole time. 11:35 Pinkbeast: yeah but with NFC nowdays, you can just straight-up be near someone to get the info 11:35 its cheaper for banks to handle theft that it is to make the system more secure apparently 11:35 yeah, 4cm near 11:35 prior tech needed a bit more work, perhaps making other options into easier targets (phishing etc) 11:35 making it not worth the effort 11:35 hothraxxa: I thought it was way further away than that? 11:36 hell there are places in the us that don't even have chip tech yet 11:36 <@Spider74656> what's required for shielding? (if tinfoil works, how many layers, or what thickness, is needed?) 11:36 FIQ: Thing is the value of "near" is so low - 4cm - that _in practice_ it did really turn out not to be an issue. 11:36 ^^^ 11:36 <@Spider74656> MANY places that don't have chip tech...it's depressing. 11:36 the only PIN enabled cards in the US that absolutely require PIN authorization to use are military ID's 11:36 US is weird then 11:36 Especially since there is a limit to the amount of time you can spend straight up processing bogus VISA payments before it backfires. It's not like card readers are untraceable bits of kit. 11:37 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Cav Hum Mal Law), 94236 points, T:10755, killed by a fire elemental 11:37 Again, I've got my cards in a tinfoil wallet but increasingly I think that's kind of pointless. 11:37 <@Spider74656> Another way you can tell that Nethack is Not Real Life: you never see the bill for your Platinim Yendorian Express Card.... 11:37 tinfoil! 11:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:21213 11:38 keep that under your hat pinkbeast 11:38 Not literally tinfoil, but by analogy with tinfoil hats, yes. 11:38 shiny side out 11:38 doesn't modern vanilla NH issue "card numbers" for credit cards? 11:38 <@Spider74656> Hey, it's useful for making tasty fish w/veggies in the oven (when it isn't hot outside)... 11:38 using the object ID as seed iirc 11:38 4cm's pretty generous - in practice people tap because if you hold your card 4cm from the reader - with nothing but air inbetween - you could be a while 11:39 googled "NFC distance" 11:39 NFC operates in a frequency range centered on 13.56 MHz and offers a data transmission rate of up to 424 kbit/s within a distance of approximately 10 centimeters. 11:39 where are you getting 4cm from? 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vecna, on T:73390 11:41 10cm is about the nominal maximum, 4cm is the practical distance where it might work at all 11:41 someone standing in line next to you at the grocery store could get a scan of your NFC card 11:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 7490 points, T:5425, killed by a soldier ant 11:41 ^ this happens more than you think 11:42 <@Zefnar> \0/ 11:42 <@Zefnar> it does, k2 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed WizzyTheWeird's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1459 11:42 <@Zefnar> it truly does 11:42 not with covid :P 11:42 but yeah 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Mon Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Qwesti's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:1473 11:42 in practice it hasn't happened often at all... 11:42 <@Spider74656> dNetHack Sokoban: I love it, it's hearkened back to the source of the game being a person pushing crates in a warehouse!!! 11:42 k2: example? i've not heard of this happeneing at all 11:42 yeah I really like dnh's sokoban flavour 11:43 instead of having food all around the place 11:43 a couple months ago a gas station a couple toens over from us, one of the workers there had setup an NFC scanner right next to the checkout machine at the counter, as well as one of the gas pumps 11:43 put them inside the boulders 11:43 *towns 11:43 (boxes in dnh but yeah) 11:43 also explains why you can't squeeze diagonally 11:43 <@Spider74656> Another reason for social distancing + shielding the wallet... 11:43 also something I like about dnh soko is not having monsters randomly spawning in the puzzle 11:43 guy got caught, was fired, not sure what the authorities have done (if anything) 11:43 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:27950 11:44 and that worked? 11:44 hell yeah it did 11:44 setting it up is one thing, actually expoiting it is another 11:44 he got caught by racking up charges on patrons cards, one of those patrons notified the police and hired someone to investigate 11:45 how was he cracking the encryption? 11:45 K2: How? You don't get all the info for cardholder-not-present payments from contactless 11:46 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNFSpIYoEiM 11:46 see 11:46 it's clearly been exploited 11:46 *it has 11:46 nfc on bank cards is a dumb idea 11:46 (almost every mention of contactless skimmers I can find is in America, I wonder if this is one of the many things that American banking has fucked up somehow?) 11:46 simple as that 11:47 Pinkbeast: I suspect PIN-less play a role her 11:47 e 11:47 FIQ: It's PIN-less here 11:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed Lungorthin, on T:18148 11:47 there's also a handheld device you can walk around with can scan NFC cards, you just have to get close. like standing line at (wherever) 11:47 Pinkbeast: ah 11:47 probably just US bank silliness then 11:47 yes 11:47 here too. it's been several years and i know there's been no outbreak of data theft 11:47 us banks do not require PIN auth 11:48 K2: but again (perhaps only in countries with functional banking) that doesn't get you the deets for cardholder-not-present 11:48 k2: i suppose that's because they never really embraced chip technology 11:48 but I still think forcing PIN is a good idea 11:48 chip on card is fairly new in the US 11:48 or another means of authentication that needs the holder present 11:48 i know 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 3393 points, T:1786, killed by a giant spider 11:49 and magstripes are still included, which defeats the purpose of havign a chip 11:49 Practically speaking, as said, increasingly it's phones not cards and the phone owner controls when the phone is trying to pay at all 11:49 also not requiring PIN auth defeats purpose of having the chip 11:49 fiq: the tap limit is typically so low that it's not deemed necessary, and there's no evidence that it is 11:49 not here anyway 11:50 i like ndnh sokoban flavor 11:51 i hate magstrips 11:51 they like to die 11:51 but i dont know anymore until im in a shitty old parking deck that only has a magstrip reader 11:51 and i just have to start trying cards until one works 11:52 i can't remember the last time i saw a mag stripe reader 11:52 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Nob Elf Fem Cha), 35606 points, T:3055, killed by an orc shaman 11:52 for credit/debit 11:53 i think a big part of it in the states, banks and online retailers thought most people would freak out if they had to have a card reader to shop online 11:53 Most readers here _have_ a mag stripe slot. Whether or not they work, IDK. I can't remember the last time I saw one used. 11:53 <@Spider74656> they're still very common in the US; plenty of merchants still haven't even started to embrace the chip tech. 11:53 K2: I don't have a card reader to shop online 11:53 Pinkbeast - is there any auth at all for using your credit card then? 11:54 idk how his works but mine has a 2FA tied to an app on my phone 11:54 pinkbeast: all the readers here that have a slot are reading the chip 11:54 K2: why does magstripes defeat the purpose of having a chip? 11:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Ran Elf Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:5242 11:55 because the data on the magstrip isnt encrypted or secured in any way. trivial to read the data on it 11:55 Online; I supply the CVV code which is printed on the physical card but not otherwise on it (it's not readable from magstripe, chip, or NFC). If my bank feels like it they then text me an authentication code which I supply. 11:55 oh yeah, it most definitely defeat any purpose of security of the chip 11:55 but I thought the chip was for convenience, not security 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Master Kaen, on T:23398 11:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Mal Cha) found the Eyes of the Overworld carried by a monster, on T:23398 11:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:23408 11:56 FIQ: both i suppose, but it definitely has a security piece to it 11:56 or can 11:56 if utilized properly 11:56 Pinkbeast that's good. at least there's something 11:56 fiq: i'm pretty sure the chip was for security 11:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed Axus, on T:19634 11:56 <@Spider74656> chip is supposedly for security (that's what the banks have implied). The first chips weren't tappable...that came many years after the 1st chips here. 11:57 Pinkbeast: I never really liked how you don't have any means of security against hostile sites when paying by card 11:57 <@Spider74656> 1st chip-cards, I meant. 11:57 there's a reason I prefer paypal when available, or systems that actually require authorization as part of the process 11:57 (those exist, but not all sites have it) 11:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Daemon, on T:146102 11:58 FIQ: I do if my bank texts me because they tell me who I'm paying, so if it's Urist McShady with a site up that pretends to be "company I wanted to pay"... 12:00 (and exactly when my bank texts me, IDK, but I suspect it's related to payment quantity and their AI's perception of shadiness) 12:01 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (demiliches), on T:29181, rt[11:01:35] 12:02 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided liches, on T:29184, rt[11:02:45] 12:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed Oona, on T:20372 12:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:72643 12:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:72644 12:05 aosdict: no more lifesaving in vlad's tower? :( 12:06 i got an amulet of strangulation and an amulet of change or something :/ 12:06 well, some people have told me that sex reassignment surgery is life saving medicine 12:06 but i don't think this is what they meant 12:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 4 points, T:230, killed by a fox 12:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Glasya, on T:146252 12:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:24127 12:13 [hdf-us] [dyn] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 5715 points, T:5064, killed by a boiling potion 12:16 is xnh the one where you get four amulets> 12:16 ? 12:16 some variant does that 12:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed PetraKelly's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:834 12:18 there were only two amulets that I saw 12:19 wished for a magic lamp, and naturally I just found another one within a couple levels 12:22 -!- Arseniy has joined #hardfought 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1760 12:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2242 points, T:2042, killed by a bolt of fire 12:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Mal Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 117 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:24993 12:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:25025 12:31 [hdf-us] [dyn] kdfla (post163) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 428 points, T:458, killed by a boulder 12:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 20 points, T:1, caught himself in his own ball of cold 12:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 11 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:25280 12:32 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Mal Neu), 0 points, T:4, slipped while mounting a saddled baby green dragon 12:35 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Hea Mer Nbn Neu), 248 points, T:767, killed by a hobbit 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible Orcus, on T:25573 12:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1307 12:38 -!- Soviet5lo has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:40 life saving is not guaranteed in vlad's, none of the guaranteed items are 12:40 having a thing you can go "ah there is a guaranteed X I will just go get it" is boring 12:43 while on the other hand, having a thing you can go "ah there is a guarantee i will never fall in the water" is exciting and fresh 12:44 gosh there is a frenzy of work on tty perminvent. it is a shame that I, the greatest nethack player of all time, am not interested in using it. so the devteam is wasting their effort 12:44 unlike the glob system of course 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1873 12:45 [hdf-us] [spl] bleeko (Car Hum Fem Law), 320 points, T:411, killed by a crossbow bolt 12:46 [hdf-eu] [slshm] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Fem Cha), 295857 points, T:6927, killed by Asmodeus 12:46 <@hackemslashem> oohh, yea... that 12:47 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed the Watcher in the Water, on T:24011 12:48 <@Shadow_Rider> :( 12:48 [hdf-eu] [slshm] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha), 298 points, T:212, killed by a bat 12:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu) bestowed with Magicbane by The Lady, on T:1605 12:50 [hdf-eu] [slshm] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Cha), 1037 points, T:610, killed by an electric shock 12:51 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Lun Gia Mal Cha), 4029 points, T:2143, killed by a baby deep dragon 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:61978 12:52 [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:61981 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) performed the invocation, on T:62007 12:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] jonathanhanes (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2547 points, T:1869, killed by an invisible Uruk-hai 13:00 <@hackemslashem> jesus why are vampires +2 to hit πŸ˜› 13:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh343] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Fem Neu) became Ishtar's Envoy of Balance, on T:41520 13:11 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:12 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 13:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 160 points, T:311, killed by a jackal 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 4942 points, T:4574, killed by a watchman 13:17 <@Zefnar> huh 13:17 <@Zefnar> !lastgame 13:17 @Zefnar: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/Z/Zefnar/nethack/dumplog/1656347291.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/V/Vis/dnethack/dumplog/1656349871.dnh.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/A/Arahael/evilhack/dumplog/1656323125.evil.html 13:18 <@Zefnar> hm he followed me up i see 13:19 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 192 points, T:490, killed by a boiling potion 13:23 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 210 points, T:514, killed by a fox 13:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the human high priestess of Moloch, on T:62152 13:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Nob Inc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:26 -!- jmcunx has joined #hardfought 13:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2293 points, T:4226, killed by a human zombie 13:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] Spider74656 (Val Swn Fem Neu), 27501 points, T:8148, poisoned by a rotted cave spider corpse 13:30 <@Spider74656> Quite fitting...when I ate the wrong corpse, it was REALLY the wrong one...if the game actually recognized the name I'd given it, by rights it should've also charged me w/cannibalism! 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:26743 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:26745 13:38 [hdf-us] [evil] jmcunx (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 346 points, T:1408, killed by Lolth 13:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 309392 points, T:27228, killed by brainlessness 13:42 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in seventeen variants" unlocked by jmcunx! 13:45 [hdf-us] [dyn] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 11301 points, T:9639, killed by a mumak 13:45 -!- Sithrin has joined #hardfought 13:45 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in eight variants" unlocked by Heliokopis! 13:45 So, uhhh, in Evilhack where is the Amulet of Yendor? 13:46 [hdf-eu] [slshm] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Fem Cha), 146538 points, T:7407, killed by Mr. One-eyed Sam, the shopkeeper, while helpless 13:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:22281 13:46 <@hackemslashem> Yep, don't have the concentration level needed for fast play today lol 13:46 Sithrin: whenever the amulet drops on the floor it has a chance to teleport 13:47 so it's probably teleported somewhere on that floor 13:47 the chance of it teleporting is based on its BUC status iirc 13:47 Oh thank god 13:48 I was worried the game bugged and it didn't drop or somehting 13:48 I can imagine haha 13:49 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2995 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 28 points, T:342, killed by a water moccasin 13:51 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Sam Hum Fem Law), 62069 points, T:13867, killed by a giant ant 13:53 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 106 points, T:774, killed by a grid bug 13:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Amulet of Yendor, on T:62368 13:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:23587 13:56 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 279 points, T:726, killed by a water moccasin 13:57 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 92 points, T:374, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 13:59 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 14:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 1037 points, T:3223, killed by a sewer rat 14:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a xorn, on T:79201 14:04 mobileuser: grates ! Did you multiclass? 14:05 It's got like a cool menu now that's more informative 14:05 Just don't disconnect while overthinking it 14:06 -!- Soviet5lo has joined #hardfought 14:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3169 14:17 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 1497 points, T:4307, killed by a giant mosquito 14:18 [hdf-us] [dyn] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law), 194456 points, T:49291, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dynahack/dumplog/2022-06-27%2014_18_14%2C%20malor-Sam-Hum-Mal-Law%2C%20ascended.txt 14:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 15270 points, T:4296, killed by a gnome king 14:19 <@Shadow_Rider> gg malor 14:19 gratz malor! 14:19 <@Shadow_Rider> how was dyna? 14:19 <@malor> thanks. I survived a full dungeon collapse πŸ™‚ 14:19 <@malor> Interesting. That was the game where I had my armor and MR cloak disintegrated πŸ™‚ 14:20 Wow! great going malor! 14:20 <@malor> Knowing what I know NOW, some of the difficulty comes down to finding the Chromatic Scales. That made the end game way easier. Without those I think the end game is probably pretty hard since you have to wander around quite a bit and take a bunch of elemental damage. 14:20 <@malor> I died to a Vorpal Jaberwok, which I now know are genocidable, so that won't happen again. 14:21 <@malor> I had to do all 3 altars and I still had plenty of resources remaining, but I think if you don't have the Chromatic Scales it gets scary fast. 14:21 this is ridiculous 14:22 <@malor> what's that qt? 14:22 i've reversed genocided tengus 5 times now. no teleport control 14:22 !whereis qt 14:22 amateurhour: [hdf-us] qt [xnh]: (Tou Hum Mal Neu) T:80640 Sokoban level: 7 14:22 <@malor> oh my gosh, that is some bad odds! 14:22 most of the time only 1 or two of them even leave a corpse 14:24 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in ten variants" unlocked by malor! 14:24 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in seven variants" unlocked by malor! 14:24 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in nine variants" unlocked by malor! 14:24 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended seven variants" unlocked by malor! 14:24 Junethack: malor ascended a game of DynaHack on www.hardfought.org! 14:24 congrats malor! 14:25 <@malor> thanks. 14:25 <@malor> Only 2 more variants to go and I can be Shadow Rider's son πŸ™‚ 14:25 <@malor> Prince of the World to his King of the World for clarity. 14:26 :) 14:26 <@malor> And I have a good game going in "four" and "FIQ". I'm worried about just dying anyway on FIQ, but "four" I am pretty much counting as "good". Knock on wood, but whatever πŸ™‚ 14:26 <@Shadow_Rider> that should be easy 14:26 <@Shadow_Rider> you havent even played 3.6 or 3.7 14:26 <@malor> Yeah, I know. Those are my aces in the hole πŸ™‚ 14:27 <@malor> I assume I can ascend both of those in a day each if I really need to. 14:27 <@malor> But I didn't set out to get Prince of the World, it just came together as I was ascending variants i hadn't ascended before. 14:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:33167 14:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Plane of Earth, on T:33167 14:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5th time), on T:33168 14:30 <@malor> 9 variants ascended overall now. That's a good amount for a dnh-maxer like me. πŸ™‚ 14:30 <@hackemslashem> nice one malor! 14:30 <@malor> thanks 14:31 \o/ 14:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Plane of Air, on T:33210 14:32 [hdf-eu] [xnh] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 265 points, T:558, killed by a bat 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5th time), on T:82462 14:32 <@malor> I'm seeing a lot of "trophy bugs" in Junethack, but it probably evens out πŸ™‚ 14:33 <@Spider74656> gratz malor! 14:33 <@malor> thanks 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1 14:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 183 points, T:309, killed by a gnome lord 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1 14:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 20 points, T:1, caught herself in her own ball of lightning 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) entered the Planes, on T:63293 14:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Plane of Fire, on T:33297 14:37 [hdf-eu] [slth] Concrete (Rog Vam Mal Cha), 1015 points, T:1239, quit 14:38 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Nbn Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Rainbow Dash 14:38 [hdf-us] [slth] post163 (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 14:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 3 points, T:94, killed by a system shock 14:40 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Plane of Water, on T:33323 14:41 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Bar Gia Mal Neu), 1122 points, T:1506, killed by a mountain dwarf 14:42 [hdf-us] [spl] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 862 points, T:1814, killed by a gnome 14:43 <@Spider74656> YANI: in SpliceHack, when merfolk encounter a fountain, they should be asked (at least some %-age of the time) if they want to go swimming. (Not so much for function, as for giggles.) 14:44 what exactly is the trigger for "encounter"? 14:44 if it just procs while standing around a fountain it would get annoying 14:46 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (alhoons), on T:75633 14:46 aosdict: Probably when you move onto the tile the fountain is on? 14:47 <@Spider74656> when you step onto a given fountain for the 1st time, would be what I think--and it should only be X% of the time, whether that should be based on your total turncount, your turncount out of water (dehydration), or something based on your exp lvl, I'm not really sure. 14:47 <@Spider74656> 1st time I'm playing a Merfolk, but I've been cooking up the concept for a Mer-costume for my local scif/fantasy con for a few yrs. 14:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:33381 14:50 <@Spider74656> Imagine if Merfolk were real, but instead of Disney's method of acquiring legs, they simply traversed landscapes in wheelchairs instead...We Have the Technology, not to mention the access requirements under the ADA (and its European versions) now! 14:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Death, on T:33400 14:53 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in nine variants" unlocked by Heliokopis! 14:53 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in nine variants" unlocked by Heliokopis! 14:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Death (2nd time), on T:33409 14:55 Hi phoneCebolla I didn't use multiclassing next time, but the ability to get higher skill levels sounds interesting 14:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] malor (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1647 14:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Death (3rd time), on T:33416 14:55 Maybe next time I'll give it a go :-) 14:56 * didn't use multiclassing this time 14:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Death (5th time), on T:33431 14:58 <@Spider74656> Then again, having Merfolk pop out of fountains now+again could be interesting, esp if they're carrying a trident.... 14:59 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Bar Gia Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Crom, on T:828 15:00 <@Spider74656> ...or they could just splash you w/water, getting some of your items wet/rusty... 15:00 aosdict: thanks for updating the yanis archive again 15:01 for those who haven't seen it before aosdict maintains this page of nethack ideas: https://nethack-yanis.github.io/index.html 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Kni Hum Fem Law) averted death (poisoned by Demogorgon), on T:47327 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Kni Hum Fem Law), 839796 points, T:47330, poisoned by Demogorgon, while praying 15:04 <@Spider74656> aha! I shall have to peruse that. Thanks!!! 15:04 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:04 I told you about that like ten hours ago and you just now noticed 15:04 this is the greatest offense, from now on no more updates 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 300 points, T:407, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1 15:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1671464 points, T:33449, ascended 15:07 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/D/DoktorL/nethack/dumplog/1656204042.nh.html 15:08 <@Spider74656> gratz DoktorL! 15:09 Thanks, was my first weaponless 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] malor (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3770 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 364 points, T:991, killed by a freezing sphere's explosion 15:13 [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Famine, on T:63497 15:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed the saddled Black Horse, on T:63498 15:16 <@Spider74656> wait...why can Merfolk still kick? or would it be a tail-slap in their case? 15:17 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:76307 15:18 maybe the top half is fish 15:18 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:19 <@Spider74656> but then breathing in air would be a problem. Tail-slapping works, it just would need text substitution, based on current race/species. 15:19 maybe the left half is fish 15:20 <@Spider74656> Hmmmm, now there's an interesting idea... One side has leg+arm+airbreathing lungs; other side has pectoral fin+tail+gills... 15:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1620 points, T:2573, killed by a gnome lord, while praying 15:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1346 15:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gargor (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Scuzzery's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:1098 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Sithrin (Wiz Ith Fem Cha), 4621656 points, T:63511, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/S/Sithrin/evilhack/dumplog/1654707256.evil.html 15:24 gratz Sithrin !! 15:24 <@Zefnar> hey gg! 15:27 haha aosdict I was in meetings at the time sorry so couldn't check it out sooner 15:27 [hdf-us] [sp] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 220 points, T:629, killed by a boulder 15:30 Why do bear traps reset on their own?Β  Shouldn't they be spent after one capture?Β  "Let me take my leg out of this trap and leave it armed like I found it"? 15:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 278 points, T:922, killed by a large mimic 15:32 Junethack: Sithrin ascended a game of EvilHack on www.hardfought.org! 15:32 I guess then monsters would trigger it pretty often and the hero wouldn't? 15:33 that is a reasonable YANI though to make them not reset after the captured monster escapes 15:33 and drop a beartrap presumably 15:34 <@Spider74656> gratz Sithrin! 15:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 28 points, T:242, killed by a kobold zombie 15:34 Ya...I guess one can assume a magical trap that resets itself. 15:34 I think they're pretty nonmagical 15:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3402 15:35 if only they were. nice polyfodder 15:36 you dip the bear trap into the potion of polymorph 15:36 f) a magic marker 15:36 who polypiles using potions? 15:36 lol 15:36 what else would you do with a potion of poly? 15:37 i always dip a magic item into them 15:37 hit monsters with it I guess 15:37 sure. i just don't 15:37 [hdf-us] [un] halo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 356 points, T:611, killed by a small mimic 15:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 20 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 15:37 i don't self-poly either, which they are also good for\ 15:38 or if I ever implement blessed !oPoly = control what you turn into, that would be a worthwhile use 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alvietron (Val Dwa Fem Law), 383 points, T:1341, killed by a water moccasin 15:38 control what a magic item polys into, please. 15:39 yani: when wearing a ring of poly control, you can decide what an item dipped into a potion of poly will become 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alvietron (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5 points, T:166, killed by a water demon 15:40 you have found a potion of polymorph! what would you like this wand of create monster to be? 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alvietron (Val Dwa Fem Law), 8 points, T:89, killed by a water moccasin 15:40 x) a wand of death (0:13) 15:41 so, limited wishing 15:41 [hdf-eu] [slth] Concrete (Rog Vam Mal Cha), 1844 points, T:1284, quit 15:42 probably respecting existing poly limits (ie it can't change the number of charges and will increment the recharge count for wands) 15:42 x) a wand of death (1:13) 15:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Inf Ith Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2408 15:43 poly potions arepretty rare. i'd say i don't find one in as many as half my games 15:44 I want to say I find them fairly often but that may be influence from my grunthack game 15:44 [hdf-us] [un] halo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 303 points, T:705, killed by a bolt of cold 15:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 28 points, T:65, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1604 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] malor (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7890 15:49 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Fort Ludios, on T:31054, rt[11:49:51] 15:50 [hdf-us] [un] halo (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 510 points, T:662, killed by a poisonous corpse 15:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] malor (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Zefnar's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:8066 15:50 grunt has many poly wands. i don't recall poly potions being common, but of course you could have had one of those games 15:51 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1425, rt[0:04:59] 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] malor (Val Dwa Fem Law) found the Platinum Yendorian Express Card on the floor, on T:8068 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2092 points, T:1812, poisoned by a killer bee 15:51 the problem with poly wands being common in grunt (and evil) is that monsters will use them on you 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:5919 15:52 making mr pretty much mandatory fairly early 15:52 <@Zefnar> malor--is that the bones with sdsm and credit card? 15:52 i have had a few grunt/evil games ruined by this 15:52 <@Zefnar> oh i see. yes it is lol 15:53 you turn into a newt! your $stuff drops to the floor. your hear a nearby zap. you see here a pile of junk 15:53 <@malor> @Zefnar yes. I am lawful though so I don't think I can pick up the credit card. 15:53 oh and you're now an acid blob 15:54 <@malor> I didn't even notice that you had Silver Dragon scale mail! I am pausing for now and just scanned and saw the credit card πŸ™‚ 15:54 <@Zefnar> yep, wished for SDSM, PYEC and a marker, then got got shortly after LOL. soldier ants i think? 15:54 hothraxxa: one wonders why the monster, having successfully turned you into a newt, will continue trying to polymorph you (I don't think they're programmed to be mean enough to intentionally target your gear) 15:55 <@malor> yeah, soldier ants. I handled them for you πŸ™‚ 15:55 <@Zefnar> i somehow fell past minetown and didnt realize at first so i dug quite deep 15:55 <@Spider74656> @hothraxxa: that would be a bad day, and the moon's not even new yet! 15:55 <@Spider74656> !potm 15:55 <@malor> the silver mail and mr cloak will basically guarantee me a shot at ascending. Thanks for that πŸ™‚ 15:55 <@Zefnar> well, cheers \o/ 15:56 <@Spider74656> ?potm 15:56 <@Spider74656> !pom 15:56 @Spider74656: The moon is waning crescent; new moon in 1 day. 15:56 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1425 points, T:2354, killed by a raven 15:57 <@Shadow_Rider> :) maybe don’t wait on poison res 15:58 <@Zefnar> i had poi res! 15:58 <@Zefnar> they were just very fast :) 15:58 <@Shadow_Rider> ah tough 15:58 <@Zefnar> and i probably could have engraved elbereth, etc etc but 15:58 <@Zefnar> it wasnt poi res! :P 16:00 <@malor> Shadow, I decided to get a game of 3.7 going to insulate the pain of what everyone has said will be a super hard End Game for FIQ πŸ™‚ If I don't need it, the splat will feel less painful πŸ™‚ 16:01 <@malor> and I was having a nice game and now I suddenly have Silver Dragon Mail and an MR cloak, so I just need to not mess up from this point forward. 16:01 -!- pescepalla has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.5] 16:01 <@Shadow_Rider> fiq endgame is def difficult, and apparently I had abnormally easy one 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Lolth, on T:77910 16:02 [hdf-us] [slth] post163 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 792 points, T:1299, killed by a little dog 16:02 <@malor> Yeah, I'll do what I can to not splat πŸ™‚ 16:02 <@Shadow_Rider> perhaps purple rain works well 16:02 <@Shadow_Rider> unsure 16:04 <@malor> I've never used purple rain. I do have extra magic markers already, so that's certainly an option so far. 16:05 <@Spider74656> if you're using purple rain, does that mean you're also wearing a raspberry beret? 16:06 <@Spider74656> (there are certainly enough secondhand stores around...) 16:09 <@Shadow_Rider> :P 16:09 [hdf-us] [spl] Spider74656 (Val Mer Fem Law), 306 points, T:1652, burned by molten lava 16:09 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:09 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a psionic beam 16:09 <@Shadow_Rider> @malor if you can make it work in your build i was told that blue dragon scale mail is a strong consideration 16:09 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:10 <@Shadow_Rider> because all other speed can be overridden by slow 16:13 <@Spider74656> I even knew what it was & still stepped into it! Apparently I need to concentrate harder...πŸ•·οΈ πŸŒ‹ 16:15 -!- Heliokopis has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Zefnar's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3130 16:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Inf Ith Fem Una) averted death (killed by a panther), on T:5661 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 2530 points, T:4240, quit 16:23 -!- Heliokopis has joined #hardfought 16:23 <@malor> Oh, gotcha. I have Silver Mail and MR cloak right now. I am 2-weaponing but I can reduce dps and go with a shield. I see you used a shield of reflection on astral. 16:27 [hdf-us] [slshm] woodstea23 (Sam Hum Fem Law), 47081 points, T:19923, killed by a snow orc 16:27 <@malor> Obviously moving 2 times as often is better dps than 2 weaponing anyway πŸ™‚ 16:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Bar Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1461 16:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 14 points, T:101, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4031 16:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Dro Fem Cha) averted death, on T:27532 16:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 4122 points, T:4284, killed by a dwarf lord 16:35 <@Zefnar> -.- 16:36 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) had a dagger entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:21700 16:37 [hdf-eu] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Inf Ith Fem Una), 9882 points, T:6669, killed by a gnome lord 16:39 [hdf-eu] [slshm] hackemslashem (Wiz Vam Mal Cha), 16628 points, T:6160, killed by a bolt of cold 16:40 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:40 [hdf-us] [slshm] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Neu), 44 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of earth 16:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 117 points, T:142, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 16:46 [hdf-us] [dyn] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 125 points, T:407, killed by a falling object 16:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Menche (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 3441 points, T:3800, killed by a dingo 16:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 1403132 points, T:30398, killed by a bullet 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Bar Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:4310 16:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4320 16:50 [hdf-us] [sp] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3134 16:50 [hdf-us] [sp] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2782 points, T:3136, killed by a giant mimic, while praying 16:50 -!- mobileuser has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:51 I fricking hate Sokoban with a passion. 16:53 finally 16:53 i wasted 2 markers on revgenoing tengu 16:53 Heliokopis: play ndnh if you hate sokoban 16:53 FINALLY got it 16:54 it makes it a single level with a pinata you hit to get the prize 16:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2289 16:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Zefnar's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2386 16:56 Yea...I love ndnh for that reason.Β  I appreciate how it mocks the original.Β  So much time wasted and luck hammered (by random mobs largely) and it is tedious as hell. 16:56 It just seems out of place with the rest of nh 16:56 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) had a staff of holiness entrusted to her by Moloch, on T:22296 16:57 The converse of ndnh are the variants that actually make it harder.Β  Really?Β  I need to further reason to skip it outside of Junethack. 16:58 er no further... 16:58 aw I find sokoban fun 16:58 but to each their own 16:58 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 16:58 Amen, qt 16:58 I know people like it. 16:59 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) wished for "blessed +2 mithril aklys of shock", on T:64589 17:00 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 17:01 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in ten variants" unlocked by Heliokopis! 17:01 [hdf-us] [sp] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 354 points, T:460, killed by a stone giant 17:03 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 350 points, T:654, killed by a goblin zombie 17:03 <@post163> I'm not good enough to consistently reach soko - if I survive the first turn of course. 17:03 [hdf-us] [un] musicdemon (Bar Vam Fem Cha) entered the Blackmarket, on T:22451, rt[12:27:09] 17:05 [hdf-us] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Dem Mal Una) killed Graz'zt, on T:64626 17:06 <@Zefnar> this is...the third time ive left bones on this minestown level 17:06 <@Zefnar> two magic lamsp 17:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2562 points, T:2603, killed by a rothe 17:07 -!- Sithrin has quit [Quit: Do you want your possessions identified? [ynq] n] 17:09 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh343] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:43214 17:12 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby gold dragon 17:12 a bag of poo...now there is a new one for me. 17:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 3859 points, T:2969, killed by a dwarf lord 17:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 90 points, T:208, killed by a fox 17:16 @malor why would fiq "just kill you"? 17:16 @Shadow_Rider how does fh's earlygame compare? 17:17 on one hand, your pet not being nearly as dumb should make it easier 17:17 but on the other, casters are deadlier 17:17 hostile Mines is probably even worse in fh for this reason 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered her faithful chameleon, on T:54066 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered her faithful troll, on T:54067 17:19 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 125 points, T:391, killed by a fox 17:19 <@Shadow_Rider> it was similar to vanilla in a lot of ways, I think the resistance game makes things difficult early on until you can get crowned 17:19 <@Shadow_Rider> also I ditch pet immediately so they were of no help 17:20 <@Shadow_Rider> I’m sure it would be much more helpful as a weaker class 17:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 227 points, T:707, killed by a jackal 17:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Sorceress (level 18), on T:54171 17:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Explorer (level 26), on T:84621 17:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:7955 17:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Adventurer (level 30), on T:84674 17:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 1303 points, T:1195, killed by a small crossbow bolt 17:27 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 17:27 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.] 17:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Nob Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1156 17:30 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] lithium (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 2366 points, T:5515, quit 17:36 [hdf-us] [sp] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:4157 17:37 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:4320 17:38 [hdf-us] [sp] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 7324 points, T:4286, killed by a fire ant 17:40 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in ten variants" unlocked by Heliokopis! 17:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1031 17:41 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Mer Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by an acid stream 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Val Dwa Fem Law), 470 points, T:1138, killed by a gold golem 17:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 18 points, T:75, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] hanran (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 26152 points, T:8690, killed by falling down a mine shaft 17:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Nob Hum Mal Law), 9554 points, T:2616, killed by an iron piercer 17:43 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4983 17:44 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 3590 points, T:5052, killed by a dust vortex 17:45 'lo. 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 453 points, T:642, killed by a gnome, while sleeping off a magical draught 17:45 [hdf-au] [un] Orcranger (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:19987 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) found Demonbane carried by a monster, on T:82937 17:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 329 points, T:615, killed by little shards of metal ripping out of your body 17:47 So looking at all-deaths stats - there are 1988 deaths by pony (well done post163!), 222 quits, 159 bolts of cold, 151 ascentions, and then 144 scrolls of genocide! I don't understand why there are so many death by self geno??? 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh343] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Baalzebub, on T:45653 17:50 [hdf-us] [nh343] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Dispater, on T:45661 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:83066 17:51 [hdf-us] [xnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 2923 points, T:2432, killed by a rothe 17:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Bin Hum Mal Non), 610 points, T:862, killed by a grid bug 17:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Hlf Mal Una) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:16871 17:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:83439 17:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Earth, on T:83439 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (10th time), on T:83441 17:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1169 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Air, on T:83467 17:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Hlf Mal Una) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:16922 17:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Hlf Mal Una) killed Garland, on T:16935 17:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Hlf Mal Una) killed Chaos, on T:16963 17:59 <@Shadow_Rider> bleeko most of those are also post163 17:59 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Leeroy (Bin Hum Mal Non) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:20778 18:00 Ahhh, didn't realize that. 18:00 Thought there was a mechanism that I hadn't run into before 18:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Fire, on T:83636 18:01 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 18:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2297 18:03 [hdf-us] [un] musicdemon (Bar Vam Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:23711 18:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Water, on T:83721 18:06 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Bar Gia Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:5465 18:07 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Set, on T:24684, rt[6:30:16] 18:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:83787 18:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine, on T:83799 18:12 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful water elemental, on T:83859 18:13 I really want intrinsic stealth 18:14 is there some way I'm forgetting to get it other than prayer? 18:14 the ring is non-edible 18:14 just be vewy vewy quiet 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Famine (2nd time), on T:83889 18:14 huntin' rabbit 18:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful red dragon, on T:83891 18:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Pestilence, on T:83891 18:15 thanks for nothing 18:15 :/ 18:15 >:) 18:16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzdxeBTm6gk 18:16 I'm aware of the reference :) 18:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Hlf Mal Una) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 tie-dye shirt of shambhala", on T:17093 18:16 \o/ 18:17 do you have to be on an altar to get it? 18:17 stealth, I mean 18:17 yeah 18:17 i think so 18:17 oh I have wasted quite a bit of time then 18:17 not that much but like 2-3 prayers 18:18 Yeah, it's also at a Luck value just short of you being crowned I think? 18:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 3757968 points, T:83964, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/w/wispofvapor/nethack/dumplog/1655412693.nh.html 18:20 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Mus Hum Fem Neu), 322 points, T:965, killed by a dwarf zombie 18:21 -!- magnetor has joined #hardfought 18:21 Just had a nymph pick up 492 brown pudding corpses 18:22 I have to say, I was quite impressed 18:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Pri Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2162 18:23 They have basically infinite carrycap in vanilla so 18:24 Stronk nymph 18:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) bestowed with Fire Brand by The Lady, on T:87007 18:24 damn it 18:25 thanks for nothing, lady 18:25 eh, could be worse 18:25 you could have gotten giantsbane or something 18:26 I'm trying to pray for intrinsic stealth, so I'm annoyed I didn't pray before that sacrifice. I thought I was able to but I figured I'd sac one more just to make sure 18:26 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pri Elf Mal Neu), 348 points, T:754, killed by a gnome lord 18:26 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:25843, rt[6:42:22] 18:26 rip. Trying to get crowned, or is intrinsic gifting an xnh thing? 18:27 you can get intrinsic stealth from prayer in vanilla 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] malor (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:9227 18:27 and it's not part of crowning unfortunately, since I already got crowned (by mistake a while ago) 18:27 really? TIL. I always play classes that get intrinsic stealth from level up, so I never bothered finding out how to get it 18:29 Junethack: wispofvapor ascended a game of NetHack 3.7.0 on www.hardfought.org! 18:29 gz! 18:29 what does gz mean? 18:30 Congratulations. It's mostly used in the OSRS/RS3 community nowadays 18:30 oh is it short for gratz? 18:30 ye 18:31 Do prayer boons have a fall-through case? 18:31 what do you mean Umbire? 18:31 i.e. if you're at X luck but already got the boon for that, it falls through to the next one 18:31 [hdf-us] [xnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 761 points, T:1765, killed by a gecko 18:31 well, the stealth/speed/telepathy one does 18:31 I ask because in my experience it's "easier" to get intrinsics by altar prayer after I crown 18:31 I'm pretty sure that's how prayer and sacrifice works in general 18:32 it tries to give you telepathy, if you already have that, speed, if you already have that, stealth, and finally some protection 18:32 <@post163> Speaking of RS that's how I came up with my usernames. I started playing on May 11, 2008. However, I have not played in a while (over a year ago for RS3, and I have never touched OSRS). 18:32 some other ones, not really. e.g. the weapoon fixing one, if your weapon isn't damaged it does nothing at all 18:33 I got my 'magneto' usernames from RS originally, and variants came as I grew older. Magnetor has an interesting story behind it involving a typo 18:33 [hdf-eu] [nh343] nurdglaw (Cav Hum Mal Law), 15730 points, T:9066, killed by a jaguar 18:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Sam Hlf Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:965 18:34 !who 18:34 magnetor: [hdf-us] magnetor [nh343] hothraxxa [nh343] malor [nh370] karibou [nh370] Kevkat [nh370] k2 [un] musicdemon [un] zor [dnh] KrO2 [dnh] Gorvunculus [dnh] qt [xnh] shadowrider38 [slshm] gpsalmoncannon [evil] arnibald [evil] df [slth] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Grasshopper [dnh] 18:35 !whereis hothraxxa 18:35 magnetor: [hdf-us] hothraxxa [nh343]: (Cav Hum Fem Neu) T:47177 The Dungeons of Doom level: 3 18:35 -!- Semilg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Sam Hlf Mal Law), 11619 points, T:1315, quit 18:38 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in eleven variants" unlocked by Heliokopis! 18:38 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in eleven variants" unlocked by Heliokopis! 18:38 !whereis magnetor 18:38 hothraxxa: [hdf-us] magnetor [nh343]: (Val Hum Fem Law) T:70323 The Dungeons of Doom level: 24 18:39 "I 18:39 "I've been trapped down here for years" 18:39 "send help" 18:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Nob Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:45 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Bar Gia Mal Neu), 18134 points, T:9299, killed by a gargoyle, while praying 18:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 31 points, T:109, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:46 [hdf-us] [nh4] Leftbones (leftbones) (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 30067 points, T:2048, quit 18:48 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Elf Nbn Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby red dragon 18:49 [hdf-us] [nh4] fl (post163) (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 8040 points, T:152, killed by a falling object 18:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Pri Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3895 18:50 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Aci Dop Mal Cha), 965 points, T:1040, killed by an arrow 18:50 [hdf-au] [slshm] Tangles (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 1465168 points, T:43962, killed by invisible Demogorgon 18:52 [hdf-us] [nh4] dfl (post163) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 14304 points, T:375, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Pinkie Pie 18:52 post163: gonna do the whole cast? 18:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 3 points, T:27, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Applejack 18:53 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 3 points, T:88, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:56 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 18:56 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 195 points, T:437, killed by a little dart 18:57 [hdf-us] [4k] kragoo (zor) (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 4941 points, T:858, killed by a jitterbug 18:57 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in two variants" unlocked by Tangles! 18:57 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in eleven variants" unlocked by Tangles! 18:57 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Cha), 43 points, T:67, killed by a goblin 18:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 122 points, T:197, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:59 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Ran Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:7133 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] karibou (Ran Elf Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a cubical amulet on an altar, on T:7332 19:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Pri Hum Fem Law), 4212 points, T:4621, killed by a giant spider 19:08 -!- Arseniy has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:14 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the Blackmarket, on T:28899, rt[7:30:31] 19:16 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Kni Hum Nbn Cha), 1880 points, T:2170, killed by a gnome king 19:18 [hdf-us] [ndnh] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Vam Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1747 19:18 [hdf-us] [un] richards (Val Hum Fem Law), 100835 points, T:32663, petrified by a chickatrice 19:19 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Elf Nbn Neu), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby gold dragon 19:20 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 69 points, T:129, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 19:21 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 19:24 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Nbn Cha), 475 points, T:531, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 19:25 <@Shadow_Rider> !lastgame 19:25 @Shadow_Rider: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowrider38/slashem/dumplog/1656368997.slashem.txt | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/n/nurdglaw/nh343/dumplog/1656347956.nh343.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/T/Tangles/slashem/dumplog/1655813302.slashem.txt 19:26 <@Shadow_Rider> who left demogorgon for me... 19:26 Junethack: mdarweesh ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.6 on nethack.alt.org! 19:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) completed Sokoban, on T:8512 19:27 No time for an Elbereth? 19:28 <@Shadow_Rider> paralyzed by a rhaumbusun 19:28 <@Shadow_Rider> i might have had one turn but i thought i was gonna die to illness 19:28 Ohhhh man, worst bones I've ever seen. 19:29 @Shadow_rider don't look at that. It's embarrassing. 19:29 <@Shadow_Rider> lol 19:29 <@Shadow_Rider> i found it 19:29 <@Shadow_Rider> too late tangles 19:30 There's some good stuff in the bag I guess. Some markers and a WoW and a couple of lamps. 19:30 <@Shadow_Rider> no i also died to demo 19:30 Oh :( I am sorry. 19:30 <@Shadow_Rider> haha it happens 19:30 <@Shadow_Rider> rip both of us 19:31 <@Shadow_Rider> reminder for me to turn off bones 19:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "a blessed fixed greased +3 helm of telepathy", on T:79133 19:31 Ehh, ya roll the dice on bones. But that is one really big snake eyes :-) 19:32 <@Shadow_Rider> i am a bones non believer 19:33 <@Shadow_Rider> either you get killed by something probably unreasonable like that or you get a buttload of stuff that you shouldnt really have 19:33 i am a bones lover for that exact reason 19:33 It makes life unreasonably interesting 19:34 <@Shadow_Rider> that was a sorta speedrun attempt too so bones are no go 19:38 I hit a couple of bones with way out of depth stuff my first ascention this month, a MMF on like DL 8 or something like that, and another with like three fire giants a couple below. Got GoP and an amulet of reflection for the trouble, which was a fair trade. 19:38 But yea, for a speedrun, you probably don't want to complicate matters with a bones. 19:40 <@Shadow_Rider> the issue is more that someone sufficiently determined could stuff a crazy bones and get everything they need for the whole game at an early level 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:79252 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "a blessed wand of death", on T:79253 19:41 Fragile Wizard Corps: providing magic resistance to everyone else since 1985 :-) 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Bar Hum Mal Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1578 19:41 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:79257 19:42 <@Shadow_Rider> :P 19:42 That's a fair point, maybe bones should be off to be considered for fastest ascention 19:43 <@Shadow_Rider> for vanilla thats the rule luxi set 19:43 Oh, very good. 19:44 [hdf-us] [gnoll] jmcunx (Hea Hum Fem Neu), 850 points, T:8168, petrified by a cockatrice 19:44 <@Shadow_Rider> that was not a bad starting point, close to 1hr for entering valley 19:44 <@Shadow_Rider> @hackemslashem have you been doing soko in your runs? 19:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 1441 points, T:1647, killed by a rothe 19:45 So you are trying wallclock, not turncount? 19:45 <@Shadow_Rider> yup yup i could never do tc 19:46 <@Shadow_Rider> interesting i think there are sorta separate categories for bones enabled and disabled for tc 19:47 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Cav Gia Mal Neu), 6869 points, T:2886, killed by a watchman, while praying unsuccessfully 19:48 Well, gotta go get some vinegar to clean the coffee pot. My caffiene supply is in danger. 19:48 Back later 19:50 hmm, be careful about migrating from big home server to a collection of pis because they are too small to kick when they are acting up than a big server 19:51 the pro is that you can hold them in your palm and curse them out 19:51 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed tins of blue dragon meat", on T:79348 19:53 -!- Bleeko has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 20:00 -!- Umbire has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- Soviet5lo has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- phoneCebolla has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- qt has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- MiseryMyra has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- Announcy has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- APic has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- NetSysFire has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- Anerag has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- Andrio has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- flgr has quit [*.net *.split] 20:00 -!- flgr has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- APic has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- Soviet5lo has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- VaderFLAG has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- NetSysFire has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- phoneCebolla has joined #hardfought 20:00 -!- Andrio has joined #hardfought 20:01 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Changing host] 20:01 -!- NetSysFire has joined #hardfought 20:01 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 20:02 -!- Anerag has joined #hardfought 20:02 -!- MiseryMyra has joined #hardfought 20:14 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:15 -!- crns has quit [Quit: gone] 20:15 -!- crns has joined #hardfought 20:15 -!- crns has quit [Changing host] 20:15 -!- crns has joined #hardfought 20:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 10556 points, T:4054, killed by a mumak calf 20:18 Hi soliciting wiki edits again 20:18 who wants stuff added and what stuff should I focus on first 20:20 an xnethack section on EVERY page 20:20 jk 20:22 <@Shadow_Rider> Umbire did you ever finish that page for doppelganger polyforms in em/them? 20:22 Still a WIP, that's gonna take a while so 20:22 Umbire: slashthem stuff 20:22 Okay does anyone have anything specific 20:22 Gotta start somewhere 20:24 [hdf-us] [nh343] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:47826 20:28 roles 20:28 quest artifacts 20:28 branches 20:28 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Acu Dwa Fem Law), 469 points, T:1547, killed by Amon 20:31 -!- Bleeko has joined #hardfought 20:34 sure w/e 20:34 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Acu Bat Mal Law), 2155 points, T:959, killed by a water moccasin 20:37 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 20:42 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 356 points, T:629, killed by a bat 20:46 [hdf-us] [nh343] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:48675 20:47 [hdf-us] [nh343] hothraxxa (Cav Hum Fem Neu) picked up the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:48676 20:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:14231 20:49 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) defeated Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:78942 20:50 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:56 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Mon Dwa Fem Neu) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:1605 20:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] qt (Tou Hum Mal Neu) wished for "marker", on T:91906 20:58 reduction of wordiness, removal of sketchy advice also good 20:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zHz (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:40007 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] malor (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:16140 21:01 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Mon Dwa Fem Neu) entered the Bigroom, on T:2245 21:02 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Mon Dwa Fem Neu), 5240 points, T:2262, killed by an owlbear 21:06 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:82161 21:07 -!- jmcunx has left #hardfought 21:08 lol 21:08 of course I finally got stealth after I gave up on it and fireproofed/enchanted up an elven cloak 21:08 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Durin's Bane, on T:31685 21:08 classic 21:09 lol. 21:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Pri Hum Fem Cha), 3754 points, T:10360, killed by a straw golem 21:23 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Ran Mer Fem Neu), 269 points, T:546, killed by a dwarf 21:24 [hdf-us] [slshm] woodstea23 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 649 points, T:1352, killed by a gas spore's explosion 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 919 points, T:1989, poisoned by a snake 21:25 <@hackemslashem> Can't sleep so I'll talk. I'm usually skipping soko, i think just popping in the first level to id earth is ok 21:26 <@hackemslashem> Saves a lot of hand strain too 21:26 <@Shadow_Rider> gotcha kind of what I figured 21:26 pushing boulders doesn't give you hand strain. it gives you STRONG muscles 21:27 <@Shadow_Rider> kinda seems like if you don’t get a bag of holding by black market ur boned 21:27 it abuses wisdom 21:27 <@hackemslashem> Oh you'll almost always be able to make one there! 21:27 <@hackemslashem> Upgrades 21:30 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:80499 21:32 <@hackemslashem> When I'm feeling better I'll do more streaming of speed slashem, i will show you the way 21:37 <@malor> looking forward to that hackem 21:38 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Set, on T:34003, rt[8:28:09] 21:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful pony, on T:1212 21:40 Yeah, you can dip a sack into a potion of gain level 21:41 It's a 50% chance, right 21:42 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) genocided master mind flayers, on T:34271, rt[8:31:35] 21:42 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) genocided mind flayers, on T:34272, rt[8:31:42] 21:42 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:82724 21:43 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "a blessed fixed wand of death", on T:82725 21:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:80935 21:43 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Bar Vam Nbn Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1759 21:43 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "a blessed fixed wand of death", on T:82728 21:43 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed scrolls of genocide", on T:82730 21:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "a magic marker named "I already have all the artis, lol"", on T:82731 21:44 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Bar Vam Nbn Cha), 1836 points, T:1958, killed by a giant ant, while fainted from lack of food 21:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2040 points, T:1798, killed by a killer bee, while fainted from lack of food 21:45 <@hackemslashem> If you have 2 gain level potions you will always upgrade to a BoH 21:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha), 5288 points, T:5703, poisoned by an orcish arrow 21:46 aaaaaaa poison insta death 21:46 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 118 points, T:321, killed by a serval 21:46 <@hackemslashem> But between the mines/town/BM there's usually a boh somewhere 21:47 netsysfire, that used to scale backwards with poison res due to the implementation being backwards 21:47 [hdf-us] [slshm] woodstea23 (Ran Lyc Mal Cha), 50 points, T:256, killed by a death ray 21:47 <@hackemslashem> Or if you get an early wish, wallet of Perseus is pretty sexy 21:47 so the higher % poison res you had the higher chance of instadeath 21:47 I think 100% was safe though 21:48 <@Shadow_Rider> ah upgrades of course! 21:48 <@Shadow_Rider> i appreciate it 21:49 that's great Demo, that should be brought back 21:49 it adds some downsides to getting poison res, which is currently purely beneficial. much more balanced 21:49 <@hackemslashem> Ofc it makes me sad that they left drum of earthquake out of the upgrade list, but included all the other magic instruments :p 21:49 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 21:50 it was a bug 21:51 <@Shadow_Rider> cant let us have everything ig 21:51 a balanced bug 21:52 i wish i knew more about bugs so i could make a clever joke about some bug that balances on things 21:52 but unfortunately I know nothing 21:52 i got eaten by bugs last weekend 21:53 <@hackemslashem> A tightrope walking bug? 21:53 Stickbug moment 21:55 -!- marblesurf has joined #hardfought 21:57 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Sam Inf Mal Law), 2360 points, T:1310, killed by an invisible gnome lord 21:58 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:34965 21:59 -!- marblesurf has quit [Client Quit] 22:00 [hdf-us] [slshm] woodstea23 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 219 points, T:1469, killed by a rock 22:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2026 22:07 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pri Dwa Mal Neu) destroyed spicyflump20kWOW's ghost, the former Aspirant, on T:1388 22:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8284 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:83924 22:12 Playing notdnethack, what do the Br and DR numbers in the status line mean? 22:12 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pri Dwa Mal Neu), 1507 points, T:1833, killed by a giant bat 22:14 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Hea Mer Nbn Neu), 68 points, T:192, killed by a serval 22:14 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 218 points, T:1009, killed by a bolt of cold 22:16 DR = defense rating, dunno about the other one. 22:16 Most of the dnh folks that hang in here are also in ##nethack-variants, you may or may not get a quicker answer there 22:16 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Chf Inc Fem Neu), 379 points, T:546, killed by a kitten 22:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4708 points, T:3066, killed by a gnome king 22:21 [hdf-us] [ndnh] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1719 22:24 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law) had Keolewa bestowed upon her by Anu, on T:3356 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 55 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:84763 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 62 points, T:148, killed by a small mimic 22:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3930 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Juiblex, on T:84801 22:28 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +5 cloak of magic resistance", on T:36054 22:29 [hdf-eu] [slshm] hackemslashem (Wiz Vam Mal Cha), 1110 points, T:732, quit 22:29 <@Bubbles> +5? 22:29 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Acu Hum Fem Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1545 22:29 go big or go home 22:31 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 1965 points, T:5060, killed by an ape 22:31 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Acu Hum Fem Law), 6365 points, T:1729, killed by an acid blob 22:33 [hdf-eu] [slshm] hackemslashem (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 507 points, T:886, killed by a dwarf, while helpless 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 171 points, T:288, killed by a fox 22:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] murgatroid99 (Pir Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3299 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1815 22:36 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Baalzebub, on T:85457 22:37 [hdf-us] [dnh] anselmus (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1614 22:38 -!- Sting has joined #hardfought 22:41 [hdf-us] [ndnh] gpsalmoncannon (Wiz Vam Mal Cha), 126609 points, T:7417, killed by a shimmering dragon 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed StubbyBeast's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2344 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) destroyed Zefnar's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2369 22:44 Oh yeah, I have an Un game to resume as well 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] disperse (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 35418 points, T:11198, killed by an owlbear 22:46 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered the Dragon Caves, on T:36813, rt[9:36:06] 22:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) killed the Grue, on T:19449 22:47 -!- Sting has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:48 -!- Sting has joined #hardfought 22:49 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:50 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:86578 22:51 [hdf-us] [un] k2 (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Sheol, on T:37037, rt[9:40:38] 22:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Pri Hum Mal Law), 729 points, T:2121, killed by a pony 22:58 -!- Sting has quit [Quit: Sting] 23:01 <@Shadow_Rider> is disabling bones allowed in 3.4? 23:02 <@Shadow_Rider> trying to disable in slashem but the game doesn't like when i try to add bones option 23:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non) killed Cerberus, on T:20415 23:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) found Sting on the floor, on T:1108 23:05 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a broadsword entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:2464 23:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] anselmus (Bar Hum Mal Cha) was given Atlantean Royal Sword, on T:3144 23:06 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 2508 points, T:2481, killed by genocidal confusion 23:06 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (knights), on T:2481 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1272 23:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Gorvunculus (Bin Hum Fem Non), 525590 points, T:20744, killed by Ilona Szilagy 23:08 !lastgame Gorvunculus 23:08 Demo: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Gorvunculus/dnethack/dumplog/1656365066.dnh.txt 23:11 @d?Ilona Szilagy 23:11 Ilona Szilagy (V) | Lvl: 13 | Diff: 17 | Spd: 16 | Res: cold sleep poison drain | Confers: nothing | MR: 80 | Generates: unique | AC: Nat 6/Dodge 0/Prot 0 | Attacks: 1d10 weapon physical, 1d12 bite vampire-drain, 2d6 cast spell | Alignment: -10 | Flags: nopoly, flies, breathless, stalker, poisonous, regenerates, infravisible, undead 23:11 ah too low for touch of death 23:13 -!- phoneCebolla has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 23:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] murgatroid99 (Pir Hum Mal Cha) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:8092 23:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] anselmus (Bar Hum Mal Cha), 18784 points, T:3876, killed by a Shiere Eladrin, while sleeping 23:15 [hdf-au] [nh4] Buck (Tangles) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 35751 points, T:1224, killed by a giant spider 23:17 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed +2 blue dragon scale mail", on T:577 23:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:2527 23:19 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in twelve variants" unlocked by Tangles! 23:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1668 points, T:2547, killed by a werejackal 23:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) bestowed with Magicbane by Thoth, on T:5011 23:31 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2285 23:35 @u?vorpal jabberwock 23:35 vorpal jabberwock (J) | Lvl: 20 | Diff: 26 | Spd: 12 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 50 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: -2 | Attacks: 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 bite physical, 3d10 claw decapitate, 3d10 claw decapitate | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, flies, infravisible 23:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Arc Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2620 23:35 Right, so don't get anywhere near 23:35 -!- Bleeko has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:36 @u?dark Angel 23:36 dark Angel (A) | Lvl: 14 | Diff: 19 | Spd: 10 | Res: cold sleep shock poison | Confers: nothing | MR: 55 | Generates: sheol gehennom | AC: -4 | Attacks: 1d6 weapon physical, 1d6 weapon physical, 1d4 gaze stun, 1d6 weapon physical | Alignment: -12 | Flags: flies, seeinvis, nopoly, stalker 23:38 Junethack: crunchbubba ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.6 on nethack.alt.org! 23:40 [hdf-au] [fh] Buku (Tangles) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 19780 points, T:1253, killed by a boulder 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:90232 23:40 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) picked up the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:90235 23:43 [hdf-us] [dnh] murgatroid99 (Pir Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:11088 23:44 killed and ate my first vorpalwock 23:45 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) had a helm of speed entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:3491 23:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 351 points, T:772, killed by a bat 23:49 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a blue dragon, on T:3768 23:51 [hdf-au] [fh] Drongo (Tangles) (Sam Hum Mal Law) heard a rumor from The Oracle, on T:558 23:51 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Kni Cen Mal Cha), 6822 points, T:4026, killed by a giant spider, while frozen by a monster's gaze 23:51 drungo 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh343] magnetor (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "3 blessed candles", on T:91085 23:53 [hdf-au] [un] Umbire (Cav Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:52034 23:53 [hdf-au] [fh] Drongo (Tangles) (Sam Hum Mal Law), 31160 points, T:728, killed by a Woodland-elf 23:53 [hdf-us] [nh13d] yamamushi (Wiz Mal), 89 points, T:159, imp 23:55 <@Zefnar> can you actually reduce your god's anger by a fractional amount? 23:55 Partly mollifying them, yes 23:55 <@Zefnar> i prayed early, so my god should be angry 1 23:55 <@Zefnar> i would think ive sacrificed enough corpses to add up to 1 by now 23:55 <@Zefnar> hm 23:55 Inadequacy = 0 23:56 You need suitable difficulty sacrifices 23:57 <@Zefnar> so fractional doesnt work? 23:57 Junethack: Achievement "Globetrotter: get a trophy in thirteen variants" unlocked by Tangles! 23:57 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/991190699645096016/unknown.png 23:58 <@Zefnar> i am chaotic so value/12 23:58 <@Zefnar> i need a difficult 11 creature 23:58 <@Zefnar> and nothing less will work 23:58 <@Zefnar> ? 23:58 Correct 23:59 -!- Sgeo_ has joined #hardfought