00:00 [hdf-us] [nh343] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:25313 00:01 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:44614 00:02 [hdf-us] [nh343] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:25477 00:04 [hdf-us] [nh343] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:25813 00:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1347 00:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 3100 points, T:1515, killed by a large mimic 00:11 <@paradox> haven't been 'hacking for these few days cuz I'm on a little trip :P 00:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Fem Una) killed the first wraithworm, on T:15771 00:15 [hdf-us] [nh343] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:27171 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh343] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:27352 00:20 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed Asmodeus, on T:45819 00:23 [hdf-au] [un] Orcranger (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) entered Vlad's tower, on T:25054, rt[9:41:49] 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh343] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:27680 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh343] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:27909 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh343] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Planes, on T:28232 00:32 [hdf-us] [nh343] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:28234 00:33 -!- pescepalla has joined #hardfought 00:34 [hdf-au] [un] Orcranger (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) entered the Dragon Caves, on T:25541, rt[9:52:50] 00:37 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) bribed Baalzebub with 3722 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:47312 00:39 [hdf-us] [nh343] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "The Sceptre of Might", on T:28510 00:40 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Sam Elf Mal Neu) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:40843 00:40 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Sam Elf Mal Neu) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:40847 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh343] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:28564 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh343] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:28627 00:46 [hdf-us] [nh343] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:28664 00:47 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:48309 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh343] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:28868 01:03 [hdf-us] [nh343] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2254142 points, T:28898, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/d/disperse/nh343/dumplog/1655243242.nh343.txt 01:06 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended five variants" unlocked by disperse! 01:06 Junethack: disperse ascended a game of NetHack 3.4.3 on www.hardfought.org! 01:10 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:50401 01:10 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) picked up the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:50408 01:10 <@Shadow_Rider> gg disperse 01:15 <@disperse (he/him)> Thanks ShadowRider 01:16 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 10344 points, T:6851, killed by a wolf 01:17 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 01:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Conan (Bar Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3383 01:38 [hdf-us] [evil] Conan (Bar Hum Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4043 01:40 -!- pescepalla has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.5] 01:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] joes (Hea Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1373 01:54 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 34 points, T:215, killed by a falling rock 01:56 [hdf-us] [nh4] Illaoi (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 26614 points, T:1375, killed by a gnome king 02:02 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Cav Gia Fem Law), 759 points, T:1655, killed by a kitten, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:17 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 10454 points, T:6412, killed by a Mordor orc 02:24 [hdf-us] [un] LainBear (Val Dwa Fem Law), 457 points, T:1194, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a monster's gaze 02:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] fakepass (And-Ana And Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 premium heart", on T:28456 02:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Conan (Bar Hum Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering an Uruk-hai corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:8089 02:33 -!- Sgeo_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:34 [hdf-us] [un] LainBear (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered a shop, on T:1491, rt[0:09:45] 02:42 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] joes (Hea Gno Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4971 02:48 [hdf-us] [un] LainBear (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2111 points, T:2851, killed by a plains centaur 02:49 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 02:49 -!- Glasshopper has joined #hardfought 02:51 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:02 -!- wvc has joined #hardfought 03:15 [hdf-us] [evil] Conan (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 15460 points, T:9527, killed by a horned devil, while praying 03:17 -!- screamingskull has quit [Quit: Client closed] 03:21 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Raisse (Pri Hum Fem Law), 19125 points, T:9784, killed by an energy vortex 03:26 -!- Xjs has joined #hardfought 03:28 -!- jannis has joined #hardfought 03:29 -!- Xjs has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by jannis))] 03:29 -!- jannis is now known as Xjs 03:31 Hmm, remind me... how does one placate the town watch again? 03:31 I kicked open a door - apparently they saw this despite me being invisible... And then I accidentally attacked (but did not kill) them. 03:40 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a bone devil, on T:8787 03:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1531 points, T:1787, killed by a rothe 03:42 [hdf-eu] [spl] Concrete (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 924 points, T:2068, killed by a dingo 03:46 <@hackemslashem> Arahael, https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Watchman 03:47 Hmm. 03:48 Looks like my best, but risky, bet, is to anger, then pacify, the shopkeepers. 03:50 <@hackemslashem> Damn, wish I'd known about that trick before... 03:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:16104 03:56 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:56 -!- joes has quit [Quit: quit] 04:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bubble2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 speed boots", on T:69367 04:10 Heh... 04:12 <@Bubbles> These were +0 too LOL. 04:12 <@Bubbles> Luckily I had a bunch of enchant armor scrolls. 04:14 <@Bubbles> I have the +7 Sol Valtiva, gauntlets of power, gray-scaled plate mail, a cloak of displacement, a ring of free action... 04:14 <@Bubbles> I even have levitation boots, jumping boots, and an oilskin cloak as well. 04:14 <@Bubbles> I'm wondering what to wish for now. 04:15 <@Bubbles> I even found 3! magic markers randomly. 04:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a magic marker, on T:9929 04:16 *sigh*. 04:16 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 04:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had Secespita bestowed upon him by Huan Ti, on T:18140 04:19 Uh oh... 04:19 > You'll regret this infamous offense! 04:19 I sac'ed a werejackal, it seems. 04:19 I seem to have destroyed the altar, somehow. 04:21 <@Bubbles> Should I wish for a shirt to enchant or a ring of conflict next? 04:24 <@riker> can you wish me some takeout? i'm kinda hungry right now but don't really feel like driving to the local chinese place at 1:30 am 04:24 Oh, interesting. were-creatures are considered human. 04:24 -!- Arseniy has joined #hardfought 04:25 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 04:25 <@Bubbles> Yeah, and sacrificing your own race on a chaotic altar while you're non-chaotic destroys the altar. 04:26 I'm wondering how many points of abuse on the alignment record that is worth. 04:26 All I can see is that I've "moderately" abused my alignment record. 04:27 <@Bubbles> Even better: "What do you wish for?" blessed greased fixed horn of plenty A - a greased horn 04:27 <@riker> im going to introduce a patch to vanilla to add a horn of cheeseburgers 04:28 <@Bubbles> LOL. 04:28 <@Bubbles> Hmm... ring of conflict might be better? 04:28 <@Bubbles> Conflict violates an xNetHack conduct, but I'm not sure I care about that. 04:34 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 04:39 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 50688 points, T:8189, killed by a Mordor orc 04:40 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 73 points, T:236, killed by a grid bug 04:44 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a wraith corpse, on T:11438 04:45 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 41344 points, T:11446, killed by an energy vortex 04:52 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 04:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] oh6 (Sam Swn Fem Law), 26239 points, T:6534, killed by a discharging wand 04:59 <@Bubbles> I just found a fourth magic marker randomly. 04:59 <@Bubbles> Wow. 05:01 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1025 05:05 When I play, it feels like I find multiple markers more often than I should, given how rare they are (and indeed, how many games I find none). 05:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bubble2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed ring of conflict", on T:73975 05:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bubble2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:73976 05:08 [hdf-us] [gh] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law), 361 points, T:933, killed by a kobold werejackal 05:14 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4419 05:18 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 2195 points, T:2142, killed by a cauchemar 05:21 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:21 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:36 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 05:41 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:44 -!- PetraKelly has quit [Quit: Client closed] 05:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed nmlkj's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2624 05:59 Oh that's blegh. Smokey is healing. 05:59 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:717 06:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4315 06:06 -!- Heliokopis has quit [Quit: Client closed] 06:07 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 06:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3202 06:10 [hdf-us] [sp] Spider74656 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1876 points, T:2633, killed by the ghost of post163 06:15 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in eleven variants" unlocked by Spider74656! 06:39 [hdf-us] [nh4] fdl (post163) (Kni Hum Mal Law), 7652 points, T:67, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:40 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 06:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 270 points, T:324, killed by an arrow 06:43 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 95 points, T:221, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 4 points, T:11, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:45 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Nbn Law), 157 points, T:197, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:47 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 457 points, T:473, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:47 [hdf-us] [nh343] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 72 points, T:25, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 76 points, T:148, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:49 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Mal Law), 115 points, T:183, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:50 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Nbn Law), 7 points, T:90, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 06:51 -!- Bleeko has joined #hardfought 06:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping a glass perforated amulet on an altar, on T:7352 06:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed nmlkj's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:7430 06:56 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given Luck Blade, on T:9956 06:59 -!- kewldewd has joined #hardfought 07:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1328 points, T:1961, killed by a white unicorn 07:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:12, killed by a falling rock 07:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 07:08 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 07:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 07:15 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 07:15 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Cha), 5909 points, T:3692, killed by a tortle shaman, while paralyzed by a monster 07:16 Well, that was stupid. 07:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1546 07:23 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had a staff of war entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:25027 07:32 [hdf-au] [gh] Tangles (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1311 points, T:1074, killed by a dwarvish lord 07:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed the vampire of nmlkj, the former Thaumaturge, on T:8765 07:34 <@malor> Has anyone had 4 ghosts of the same player like this? 07:34 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/986594644316000276/Screen_Shot_2022-06-15_at_7.34.24_AM.png 07:37 -!- greenbourne277 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 07:39 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, killed by kicking a wall 07:40 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1530 07:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2381 07:42 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had a broadsword entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:25918 07:42 -!- Semilg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:44 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in eleven variants" unlocked by Tangles! 07:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1812 points, T:2579, killed by a giant beetle 07:48 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:14485 08:01 morning 08:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10343 08:07 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) bestowed with Snickersnee by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:10698 08:09 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Trt Fem Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a lizard corpse, on T:28564 08:13 -!- wbn_ has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 08:18 -!- Heliokopis has joined #hardfought 08:18 mornin' 08:18 morning 08:19 gday 08:19 Hello cbus, Welcome to #hardfought 08:19 well thank you beholder this is my first time playing nethack and visiting ;) 08:19 welcome..you realize that this is like the Hotel California...? 08:20 haha yeah, also fits that my ircscreen is online 24/7 :) 08:21 hehe 08:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 2098 points, T:4420, killed by a soldier ant 08:29 [hdf-au] [dnh] Tangles (Pir Inc Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1077 08:29 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:18421 08:29 [hdf-au] [un] Orcranger (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) entered Sheol, on T:27107, rt[10:45:23] 08:33 heliokopis, also this is obviously not my first time visiting or being new to nethack :) 08:34 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Sam Elf Mal Neu) had a sling named Giantslayer bestowed upon him by Raijin, on T:43164 08:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:12281 08:39 [hdf-eu] [slshm] hackemslashem (Mon Dop Mal Neu), 898080 points, T:12643, ascended 08:39 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hackemslashem/slashem/dumplog/1655242845.slashem.txt 08:40 grats slashem! 08:40 12653 turns, thats pretty fast right? 08:40 gratz hackemslashem 08:40 (it would be for vanilla) :) 08:40 surely you must be running out of monks to do now right? :P 08:40 congrats hackemslashem 08:40 bhaak: Message from hothraxxa at 2022-06-14 11:48 EDT: i expect you know this but gnollhack trophies are broken. i'm missing at least 9 08:40 hothraxxa: I know, they shouldn't be there at all. 08:40 any fun speedrun tricks done in that one? 08:41 slashem is pretty broken, hackemslashem might just have become way OP very fast :-) 08:41 <@malor> nice job hackemslashem! 08:41 [hdf-us] [nh343] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law), 450 points, T:1732, killed by a fire ant 08:41 <@hackemslashem> tx!! 08:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1860 points, T:1343, killed by an arrow 08:41 <@hackemslashem> Not dying was the trick 08:42 <@hackemslashem> Well I get male/female for each combo so it's doubled right? 😉 08:43 Junethack: hackemslashem ascended a game of Slash'EM on eu.hardfought.org! 08:43 haha true 08:44 btw just in case you didn't know you can start the quest at xlvl 10 in slashem 08:44 <@Shadow_Rider> hackem grinding them out 08:44 <@Shadow_Rider> good stuff 08:44 that might save you some time if you didn't know that 08:44 <@hackemslashem> Oh yea, I'm lovin that! 08:44 hey Ride gratz on ndnh WR 08:44 <@Shadow_Rider> :P thanks 08:44 <@hackemslashem> Just happens to coincide when you can chain blitz 3 moves too 08:45 surprised you beat it by so little time though, were you slacking? :P 08:45 [hdf-us] [slshm] nabru (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 98 points, T:198, killed by a rabbit 08:45 I guess maybe it didn't start out as a speedrun 08:46 <@Shadow_Rider> haha it started more like a speedrun than when it ended 08:46 <@Shadow_Rider> I was tilted from the first death so I sped through to get back my progress 08:46 next time sub 2h? :P 08:46 <@Shadow_Rider> and then I was like I can’t die this late or I won’t forgive myself 08:46 how fast is the ndnh WR? 08:46 ah rageplaying 08:46 4h23 08:47 ah nice 08:47 is the game "longer" than vanilla? 08:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Hum Mal Cha) found Fire Brand on the floor, on T:1193 08:47 <@Shadow_Rider> honestly if we plan out a route I think sub 2hrs for a first completed run should be pretty doable 08:47 difficult to say really, in some ways it's a faster game 08:47 but there's a lot of optional content that prepares you for victory 08:47 <@Shadow_Rider> cbus there’s more content but that can also mean it’s easier to skip some parts 08:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 5 points, T:29, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:48 <@Shadow_Rider> funny thing was I only had 1 gain level by the end of the game 08:49 <@Shadow_Rider> so I used all of my wishes on those 08:49 something I like about dnh is the replayability, different role/race combos play out very differently, and even within a race/role combo it can be very different each time 08:49 but because of the copious amount of loot you can get people can ascend very consistently 08:49 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 254280 points, T:20900, killed by Warden Arianna 08:49 wishes on gain level makes a lot of sense in a run tbh 08:49 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 192 points, T:393, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:49 like what else would eth barb even need really 08:50 <@Shadow_Rider> that’s what I like about it 08:50 <@Shadow_Rider> and also why i think it’s extremely good for speedrunning 08:50 if you like eth barb I think you would like eth caveman too 08:50 <@Shadow_Rider> doesn’t need any loot 08:50 <@Shadow_Rider> what’s the caveman gimmick? 08:50 cavemen in ndnh can add gems to spears for different effects 08:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 78 points, T:240, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:50 and the sceptre of might is a spear instead 08:50 and it's epic 08:51 cbus I figured. :P 08:51 only downside is you'd probs need to use red wage on quest nemesis 08:52 heliokopis, I mean, I scored a sub 4h ascension yesterady ;P 08:52 Nice!  Congrats 08:52 <@Shadow_Rider> having to use wage on nemesis sounds like wasted time to me 08:53 <@Shadow_Rider> but sounds fun 08:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:1757 08:53 <@Shadow_Rider> thinking too much about speedrunning rn 08:53 idk if it'd be that much of a waste of time, blaze it to the valley, find the wage, blaze it to the quest 08:54 ???? 08:54 profit 08:54 here's what the different gems do https://github.com/demogorgon22/notdnethack/blob/2022.03.22/changelog.txt#L146 08:54 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a cubical amulet on an altar, on T:3337 08:54 eth caveman sucks 08:54 eth caveman rules 08:55 on next version it will be a lot less bad 08:55 as it is, it sits in a pretty bad spot 08:55 <@Shadow_Rider> demo pls ramove the engulfing animation 08:55 [hdf-us] [spl] rez0 (Ran Hum Mal Neu), 28 points, T:194, killed by a jackal 08:55 <@Shadow_Rider> then it will be perfect 08:56 there is an option that might help with that 08:56 <@Shadow_Rider> oh? 08:56 check my rcfile and look for the bad boy mode comment and change short to none I think 08:56 it might help idk 08:57 also no idea of the context of the comment 08:57 <@Shadow_Rider> thank you I will do so in the near future 08:57 guessing you found crashes in curses 08:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:30, killed by a water moccasin 08:58 <@Shadow_Rider> if this works ndnh might be my fav variant for the time being 08:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] AlbertB (Val Hum Fem Law), 1677 points, T:4399, killed by a piranha 09:00 [hdf-us] [slshm] nabru (Wiz Dop Fem Cha), 5254 points, T:1559, killed by something while blind 09:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed MrWarthog's ghost, the former Initiate, on T:13647 09:03 [hdf-us] [nh343] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law), 2524 points, T:2757, killed by an Uruk-hai 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Trt Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed greased +3 dragonhide helm of speed", on T:33629 09:04 <@malor> Wow, 5th ghost. 09:05 <@post163> !variant 09:05 @post163: splicehack 09:05 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:06 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 5 points, T:13, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:06 <@post163> !rng Kni Yeo Nob Dra 09:06 @post163: Kni 09:06 <@post163> !variant 09:06 @post163: unnethack 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6701 09:09 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 558 points, T:523, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:10 THATS IT 09:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 46 points, T:53, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:10 i will report the gridbug thing where it can block your kicks 09:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 09:11 grats @Shadow_Rider 09:12 [hdf-us] [slshm] post163 (Yeo Elf Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:13 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 218 points, T:167, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:17 * NetSysFire prepares for an epic battle 09:17 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/issues/799 09:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1667 09:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2886 09:23 why does it not make sense that they can block your kick? 09:23 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Sam Elf Mal Neu), 524490 points, T:45151, killed by an incubus 09:24 [hdf-us] [nh343] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a succubus, on T:7698 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Trt Fem Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:35012 09:25 https://twitter.com/franzanth/status/1537025118894886912 09:25 someone should create a nethack variant around bugs 09:25 (the insects, not the code ones) 09:25 amateurhour: its in the issue! 09:26 they are too small for anything yet have the strength to block your kick 09:26 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Trt Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:35098 09:26 go krm26 09:26 and why would they need to be strong to block a kick? 09:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 829 points, T:1841, killed by a soldier ant 09:26 you can do things like redirect a kick etc 09:27 how would a bug do that 09:27 imagine kicking a bug and it doing anything about it 09:27 it's meant to be the robot from Tron I think 09:27 has 4 lil robot legs 09:27 honestly imagine kicking a kitten and it being able to do anything about it 09:27 like how is it gonna block it 09:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed WizzyTheWeird's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3091 09:28 Demo: its going to climb you 09:28 or just jump out of the way 09:28 yes 09:28 i dont kick kittens irl but i know how fast and agile they are 09:29 i still got lots of scratches from when they climbed me 09:29 I didn't even consider whether you would kick kittens or not but you've just put that thought in my head and now I'm very suspicious 09:30 i am starving them instead, you can ask them and they will tell you they have never been fed in their entire life 09:31 the only thing we do is when we enter or leave the room with cats and have to push them gently with our feet so they dont escape confinement in the shelter 09:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Mon Hlf Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1427 09:36 <@Zefnar> gelatinous cube in the sokoban zoo woke up 09:37 slurp 09:39 <@nabru> !booze 09:39 * Beholder zaps @nabru a fifth of the hooch, brewed by Announcy at 26 degrees Celsius. 09:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3106 points, T:3924, killed by a gas cloud 09:40 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:44 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 09:45 Demo: in ndnh its super annoying to be killed by grid bugs as a madman because they block your kicks 09:45 those are the number 1 cause of deaths imo 09:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Mon Hlf Mal Law), 24672 points, T:3764, killed by a Mordor orc 09:47 i wouldnt recommend you play madman 09:47 who would even recommend that 09:47 the early game is too rough 09:47 let me live out my masochistic fantasies in peace 09:47 just kidding, i enjoy challenges 09:47 it will be a lot more fun after ascending other roles 09:48 otherwise it is just annoying and confusing and sucky 09:48 and just so much more undocumented features to deal with 09:48 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Evoker, on T:7613 09:49 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Fir Inc Mal Neu), 620 points, T:664, killed by a little dog 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:9602 09:53 K2: it is a literal bug 09:53 get it? 09:53 * NetSysFire ducks the blast 09:54 <@nabru> "duck the blast" nethack needs explosive ducks 09:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] moulin (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 3077 points, T:3652, poisoned by an orcish arrow 09:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 gauntlets of power", on T:14073 09:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] LordL (Hea Elf Mal Neu), 1194 points, T:2259, killed by a hill orc 09:58 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Car Dwa Fem Neu), 446 points, T:704, fell into a pit 09:59 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:01 -!- pescepalla has joined #hardfought 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 344 points, T:983, killed by a little dog 10:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2027 10:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 15398 points, T:11570, quit 10:16 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] tinklebear (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1022 points, T:2068, killed by a hill orc called Aiakhai of Aihaiai 10:17 [hdf-au] [evil] Arahael (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6471 10:17 <@malor> NetSysFire - the worst is "fog clouds", you can't even attempt to attack them as a madperson while they engulf you. So they just blind and slow damage you until they decide to leave or you die. 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 941 points, T:1927, killed by a dwarf 10:22 -!- Bleeko has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:31 [hdf-us] [gnoll] zor (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 35000 points, T:2052, killed by a gnoll lord 10:31 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:33 <@malor> 6 ghosts. 10:33 <@malor> What is up with this game? 10:34 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 10:36 <@malor> 6 ghosts, 5 of the same player 🙂 10:36 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Bar Dwa Fem Neu), 356 points, T:1160, killed by a giant fly 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh4] Kalista (hackedhead) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 26108 points, T:1349, killed by a brown mold 10:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 18 wooden shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:3893 10:38 <@nabru> !whereis malor 10:38 @nabru: [hdf-us] malor [xnh]: (Sam Hum Mal Law) T:15362 The Dungeons of Doom level: 13 10:38 <@nabru> Probably more people playing variants 10:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed nmlkj's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:15416 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4141 10:39 <@malor> 6 ghosts in 13 levels 🙂 (one was in the mines) That's close to 50% bones rate! 10:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4398 10:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] zor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1170 points, T:1230, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 10:45 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8516 10:45 <@nabru> BTW, if you want something to celebrate today: Internet Explorer is rip. https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/15/23167121/microsoft-internet-explorer-end-of-support-retirement 10:45 yay 10:52 -!- Guest6937 has joined #hardfought 10:53 -!- Guest6937 has quit [Client Quit] 10:53 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Cav Dop Mal Neu), 3475 points, T:1794, killed by a baby green dragon 10:54 <@malor> ok, this is the 4th zoo I've found in 14 levels. 4 zoos, 6 ghosts in the first 14 levels! 10:54 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 10:56 how's your slashthem game going malor? 10:56 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:58 <@malor> Very well, knock on wood. I have gone down and found the vibrating square. I still need to kill 3 of the demon lords and also find the wizard locate. after that I can attempt to ascend. 10:58 nice one 11:00 <@Shadow_Rider> I’m going to start using gain level in them 11:00 <@Shadow_Rider> demon lords are a pain and they are really easy to avoid 11:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:02 <@malor> I haven't had any issue with any of them. I don't think any have done more than 15 damage? Elbereth is a total force field. 11:05 maybe use something better than stormbringer on them, nyeh heh heh 11:06 oh, two teams with the same points in top position 11:06 please, fix that before the end of June. I don't think the code can handle two top clans 11:07 just delete a category so there's a prime number of categories 11:08 [hdf-us] [4k] gardha (zor) (Cav Hum Fem Cha), 8850 points, T:1540, killed by a gnome lord 11:08 idk if that'd actually solve it but yolo 11:08 <@Shadow_Rider> lol 11:08 <@Shadow_Rider> It’s just annoying to have to kill them 11:08 <@Shadow_Rider> meat shields 11:08 <@Shadow_Rider> and then have to do the whole level 11:08 yeah for sure 11:09 and dnh/ndnh has given you that taste of what gain level can do for you 11:09 you're addicted 11:11 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Val Fem), 228 points, T:274, snake 11:13 <@Shadow_Rider> ah wait do I have to do 1.3 too? 11:13 <@Shadow_Rider> does that count as a variant 11:14 no 11:15 I'm not that cruel 11:15 <@malor> How much harder is "xNethack" than "Nethack"? In Nethack I would already be ready for ascension! -26 AC +6 Excalibur and +7 Katana Speed Boots, Gauntlets of Power, Cloak of Magic Resistance (I do NOT have reflection) Only 144hp, but that's probably enough for a while. How safe is that in xNethack? 11:16 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Val Fem), 1249 points, T:1205, rock mole 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 102 points, T:50, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 5 points, T:44, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1940 11:18 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Mal Law), 60 points, T:39, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:19 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Valkyrie, on T:818 11:19 [hdf-eu] [slth] NetSysFire (Und Ill Fem Cha), 1990 points, T:7161, killed by a cave spider, while fainted from lack of food 11:20 @malor, if anything, xnethack is easier than vanilla by a lil bit 11:21 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Ryoshu (level 14), on T:17467 11:22 <@malor> 5th zoo. My goodness. 11:22 <@malor> ok, thanks K2, this one should be a good chance then! I just need to get to the castle and get an AoL. 11:22 -!- wvc has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:23 malor, in its early stages it was widely considered easier because it removed a lot of vanilla bs 11:23 but now it is a lot more developed and more different so idk anymore 11:23 <@malor> I see. Early game is mostly the hard part too. and here I was killing my confidence trying to play Slash and SlashThem 🙂 11:24 I think the difficulty is similar to vanilla. Maybe a smidgen easier, but not by very much 11:24 Ride I don't think 1.3d would take you that long 11:24 but I would leave it to last because it doesn't count for those multi-variant trophies 11:24 a lil optional extra 11:25 well, you still got half a month left 11:25 you could get all missing trophies easily 11:26 <@malor> no way can you get all trophies. 11:26 <@malor> I don't even think you could get all the dnh ones since one of them is "all conducts ascended (all games combined)" 11:27 Why is that one impossible to get? 11:27 <@malor> yes, that was a challenge Rider 🙂 11:27 [hdf-eu] [gh] Somnium (Val Gia Fem Law), 794 points, T:465, killed by a gnomish werejackal 11:27 <@malor> None are impossible. But Pacifist has only ever been done one time and dnh has a way of making you kill things 🙂 11:28 how is xnh early game hard? 11:28 you play at a pace that the respawning being reduced causes food issues? 11:29 <@malor> I don't see how you would have food issues honestly. Who said it was hard? So far, I've had very few issues. I have a few deaths here, but that was before I learned a few tricks of the trade. 11:29 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1044 11:30 maybe i just read random words on my phone 11:30 and thought they were sentences that were related 11:30 @malor you make a great motivational trainer ;-) 11:31 i read it that way too. malor, you said "early game is mostly the hard part too." 11:31 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Sam Elf Mal Neu), 8482 points, T:4138, killed by a giant spider 11:32 <@malor> that was my statement about nethack in general: The early part is where you can just die to a lerocratta or something. 11:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 728 points, T:1663, killed by a hobgoblin 11:33 <@malor> make sense? The "early part is the hard part of general nethack". 11:34 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 84 points, T:249, killed by an iguana 11:35 the hardest part of nethack is the one controlling the player 11:35 s/player/hero 11:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Somnium (Sam Hum Mal Law), 3783 points, T:2520, killed by an orc-captain 11:36 s/hero/rider/ 11:36 you are war! 11:38 <@malor> do eels cause insta-death in xNethack? 11:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed bleeko's ghost, the former Brigand, on T:18394 11:38 <@Shadow_Rider> re: all trophies no thanks 11:38 malor: do they have the vanilla drowning attack you mean? I think so... 11:39 <@malor> thanks qt. 11:39 just looked it over quickly and I'm pretty sure they do 11:39 no problem 11:39 <@malor> The all trophies essentially means you AT LEAST have to ascend all variants 2 times sort of, since "celestial disgrace" is in most of them 🙂 11:39 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1069 11:40 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Val Fem), 9782 points, T:5044, wraith 11:40 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pri Gno Fem Neu), 757 points, T:1045, killed by a pony 11:40 <@Shadow_Rider> yeah that would probably be impossible even if someone played 24/7 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Kni Hum Fem Law) averted death (killed by invisible Ixoth), on T:22825 11:42 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:1557 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed the invisible Ixoth, on T:22826 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Kni Hum Fem Law) found the Magic Mirror of Merlin carried by a monster, on T:22826 11:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Kni Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:22827 11:43 <@malor> 7th ghost! And this confirms that eels can kill you: bleeko-Bar-Hum-Mal-Neu, drowned in a pool of water by a giant eel. 11:44 <@malor> 7 ghosts. How on earth 🙂 11:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2072 11:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) found Vorpal Blade on the floor, on T:18460 11:46 <@malor> This one has a +7 Vorpal Blade. I assume +6 Excalibur is better? 11:46 <@Shadow_Rider> mostly yeah 11:47 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Val Fem), 1081 points, T:1454, quit 11:47 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana And Mal Neu), 2933053 points, T:80440, quit 11:48 <@malor> thanks Shadow. 11:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:48 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Nob Inc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:48 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Mal Neu) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 11:49 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 109 points, T:191, killed by dipping a worn object into a forge 11:50 [hdf-au] [ndnh] MrWarthog (Bin Orc Mal Non), 71 points, T:236, killed by a jackal 11:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 11:53 [hdf-us] [sp] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 289 points, T:448, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:53 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3 points, T:127, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:54 [hdf-eu] [evil] LordL (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 571 points, T:1825, killed by a red naga hatchling, while fainted from lack of food 11:55 <@malor> 7 ghosts, 6 zoos. Every level is an adventure 🙂 11:57 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Val Fem), 2044 points, T:2871, demon 11:57 <@post163> !lastgame zor 11:57 @post163: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/z/zor/splicehack/dumplog/1655305693.splice.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/z/zor/evilhack/dumplog/1652541283.evil.html 11:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:14651 11:59 <@malor> 7 ghots, 7 zoos. I'm done spamming this. 12:00 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Val Fem), 452 points, T:791, acid blob 12:03 7 hours, 7 ghosts, 7 zoos 12:04 -!- Arseniy has joined #hardfought 12:05 -!- Arseniy has quit [Client Quit] 12:06 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Valkyrie, on T:360 12:09 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) performed his first genocide (class L), on T:19574 12:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:19631 12:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Tou Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3750 12:11 -!- Arseniy has joined #hardfought 12:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 2380 points, T:4126, quit 12:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:19 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Val Fem), 6144 points, T:3159, killer bee 12:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed amulet of life saving", on T:20011 12:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4811 12:24 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby green dragon 12:24 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:16647 12:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) wished for "blessed silver dragon scales", on T:20015 12:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 1656 points, T:1034, poisoned by a rotted gnome corpse 12:28 What do you do with the stone crates in notdnethacks soko? 12:30 -!- Arseniy has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:20130 12:34 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Cav Dwa Fem Law), 31512 points, T:8181, killed by a lightning paraelemental 12:34 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Kokushu (level 18), on T:20213 12:35 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 28 points, T:20, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:7208 12:38 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 87 points, T:466, killed by a water moccasin 12:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:136 12:40 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 22724 points, T:7391, killed by a leocrotta, while praying 12:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 100 points, T:146, killed by a goblin 12:42 <@malor> Merlek, nothing. Just ignore them and kill the pinata. 12:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) genocided class c, on T:20802 12:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:40627 12:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 238107 points, T:21278, killed by a yellow dragon 12:48 [hdf-au] [ndnh] MrWarthog (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 16382 points, T:3717, killed by a bugbear, while fainted from lack of food 12:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 8608 points, T:2247, killed by a garo 12:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) genocided disenchanters, on T:21012 12:52 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in seventeen variants" unlocked by MrWarthog! 12:53 -!- Bleeko has joined #hardfought 12:54 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by an exploding wand), on T:5847 12:55 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 13:00 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (killed by an owlbear), on T:7717 13:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:7742 13:02 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Sam Elf Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a mummy wrapping on an altar, on T:3352 13:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Scuzzery (Kni Hum Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 200 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:26264 13:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) was given Excalibur by the Lady of the Lake, on T:8632 13:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:07 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Sam Elf Mal Neu) had a an elven dagger bestowed upon him by Raijin, on T:3761 13:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3849 13:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 341 points, T:526, killed by a dwarf 13:11 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Sam Elf Mal Neu), 11811 points, T:3911, killed by a killer bee, while praying 13:11 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) bestowed with Mjollnir by Tyr, on T:9563 13:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 32 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:39448 13:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) bestowed with Grayswandir by Tyr, on T:9666 13:15 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:9766 13:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Pri Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:3916 13:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8563 13:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 141 points, T:374, killed by a newt 13:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Dro Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:3733 13:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Juiblex, on T:22013 13:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:31965 13:27 [hdf-us] [gh] oh6 (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1184 points, T:2987, killed by a dwarf's wand 13:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Pri Hum Mal Law) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:4817 13:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 4 points, T:20, killed by a fox 13:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 32498 points, T:11375, killed by an invisible stalker 13:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:22083 13:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5718 13:31 Junethack: Achievement "Sightseeing Tour: finish a game in five variants" unlocked by oh6! 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:40590 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:40630 13:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 102 points, T:112, killed by a jackal 13:36 [hdf-us] [xnh] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:11813 13:46 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:33682 13:53 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Mon Inc Mal Cha), 59587 points, T:9551, killed by a disenchanter 13:53 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 13:53 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Val Fem), 556 points, T:939, gnome 13:56 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 918 points, T:600, killed by an Elvenking 13:56 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Cav Hum Mal Law) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:11341 13:56 <@post163> @u? elvenking 13:56 Elvenking (@) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 11 | Spd: 12 | Res: sleep | Confers: sleep | MR: 25 | Generates: sheol gehennom dungeons | AC: 10 | Attacks: 2d4 weapon physical, 2d4 weapon physical | Alignment: -10 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, seeinvis, infravisible 13:56 <@post163> !lastgame 13:57 @post163: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/p/post163/unnethack/dumplog/1655315614.un.txt.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/a/amateurhour/nh13d/dumplog/1655315481.nh13d.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/M/MrWarthog/notdnethack/dumplog/1655308220.ndnh.txt 13:58 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 13:58 <@post163> Yep, bones file cause elvenkings are supposed to be too difficult for Dlvl: 6 and Xp: 1 14:00 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 346 points, T:196, killed by a coyote 14:01 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:34490 14:04 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:05 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:1157, rt[0:04:38] 14:05 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 1270 points, T:1223, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:08 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 297 points, T:295, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:08 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 14:08 [hdf-us] [nh343] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:09 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) killed the ghost of , the former Valkyrie, on T:581 14:09 [hdf-us] [ndnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) bestowed with Mjollnir by Tyr, on T:21838 14:10 [hdf-us] [dnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) was given the Silence Glaive, on T:34587 14:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Fem Una) read the necronomicon for the first time, on T:17336 14:12 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 14:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 484 points, T:590, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (elves), on T:1 14:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Cav Hum Mal Law) destroyed PetraKelly's ghost, the former Adept, on T:12064 14:14 -!- Arseniy has joined #hardfought 14:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Cav Hum Mal Law) found Sting on the floor, on T:12090 14:16 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Trt Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:42291 14:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:22544 14:20 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Val Fem), 2662 points, T:2190, killer bee 14:22 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 14:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) found the Tsurugi of Muramasa on the floor, on T:25001 14:24 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Valkyrie ### Fem ###) stole 9248 zorkmids of merchandise from the assorted antiques of Asidonhopo on T:1308 14:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:25017 14:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:25018 14:29 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Val Fem), 2124 points, T:2009, orc 14:30 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Leeroy (And-Ana And Mal Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:7100 14:36 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Trt Fem Neu) made her first artifact wish - "blessed platinum yendorian express card", on T:43239 14:37 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:26013 14:37 Umbire: tourists auto-id confirmed 14:38 Thank you. 14:40 I haven't run the numbers for the rainbow shop before, so I was surprised that you would find one already 14:40 but it seems to have one in ~1.6% of the games 14:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Mad Vam Fem Una) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 tie-dye shirt of shambhala", on T:18304 14:41 hmm, no, those numbers are not correct. there can be more than one per game 14:42 Is the following intended behaviour? I was in a shop with my pet when a dwarf hacks his way in. My pet kills the dwarf and eats the corpse. The shopkeeper whispers an incantation and the section of wall is said to close up. My pet walks back into the shop and I am able to walk into the hole in the wall, where I retrieve the late dwarf's broad pick. 14:42 At this point there is no corridor "behind" the hole in the wall. I walk back into the shop; the shopkeeper again whispers an incantation and the hole in the wall really does close up. 14:42 does it sell special kind of bow that adds water-damaging object property to the projectiles it launches? 14:42 1.5% with up to 3 per game. surprisingly many 14:43 amateurhour: no. I don't like pun weapons 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 483 points, T:2090, killed by a dwarf 14:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 14:44 fair enough 14:44 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:44 K2 Any chance you can unstuck my gnlhk game? 14:45 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 14:46 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Pal Elf Fem Law), 2251 points, T:1002, killed by a wallaby 14:46 you're getting a lot of crashes huh, I don't think anyone else has been getting quite so many 14:47 are you using a pet at all? I reported a bug to do with pets but I could never reproduce it outside of fuzzing 14:47 These are self induced, I am afraid.  When I walk away for more than a few minutes it boots me for idling.  The game has been solid as hell. 14:48 ah right 14:48 I have improved, but I am easily distracted and before I know it, I am bugging K2 14:48 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Leeroy (Ana And Mal Neu), 59007 points, T:8198, killed by a sunflower 14:48 How are you? 14:49 <@post163> I've had some gnollhack crashes in the past - typically when my pet got engulfed. 14:49 [hdf-us] [nh343] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:10828 14:50 Yea...I am not very good with pets so I typically avoid them.  I am enjoying some golems, though in my current playthrough.  Yea I have had 0 crashes with gnoll. 14:50 It is an interesting variant.  I like it. 14:51 I reported your crashes to the devs post163, also I had a similar crash in the sanctum 14:51 [hdf-eu] [gh] Somnium (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:2039 14:51 I think it _should_ be fixed now 14:51 @d?living mirage 14:51 living mirage (P) | Lvl: 12 | Diff: 14 | Spd: 9 | Res: shock poison petrification | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: special | AC: Nat 4/Dodge 0/Prot 0 | Attacks: 6d8 touch dessicate | Alignment: -10 | Flags: omnivore, amorphous, breathless, mindless, passes-bars, vegetarian 14:51 nurdglaw: which version? can't reproduce that on 3.7. if I am or if my pet is in the open square, the second it is free again the section gets closed up 14:52 maybe there were multiple open spots in the walls, the message was printed for one of them closing up, and the other didn't close up yet? 14:52 3.7.0-59 Work-in-progress - last build Jun 15 2022 14:52 12:00:05 (ba19de5de9b105df43ec81f7b8aaf5e01ff60ae8,branch:master) 14:53 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:55169 14:53 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:55170 14:53 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 14:54 qt: I guess that's possible, and I can't swear that's not what happened, but I don't think so. 14:55 yeah that is what happened based on the ttyrec 14:55 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed the invisible Baalzebub, on T:27339 14:55 0x0 ~dl/shopwall.mp4 14:55 qt: OK. I guess I just missed that. Sorry to bother you all. 14:55 oops 14:55 https://0x0.st/ouMC.mp4 14:56 Thanks - it explains the shape of the corridor behind the wall. 14:56 It definitely didn't bother me, it took about 30 seconds to look up the ttyrec :) 14:57 and if it was a bug it would have been interesting, definitely good to err on the side of reporting stuff like that imo 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:1140 14:58 I hope I didn't give the impression that I'd stop reporting stuff that looks peculiar - that was never my intention 14:58 :-) 14:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:1287 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1344 14:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 1118 points, T:1349, killed by a soldier ant 14:59 <@Bubbles> Ugh. 14:59 <@Bubbles> Asmodeus asked for some money - but the messages sped right past him. 14:59 <@Bubbles> I don't know how much he's asking for! 14:59 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 14:59 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1 15:00 Junethack: spazm ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.6 on nethack.alt.org! 15:00 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 145 points, T:161, killed by a boiling potion 15:01 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Dna-Kni Dwa Fem Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:829 15:02 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bubble2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 12500 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:76339 15:03 <@Bubbles> I checked and he only asked for 11755. Oh well... 15:03 -!- oh7 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:04 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 15:06 <@Bubbles> Good grief... an invisible nymph stole my best weapon and armor! 15:06 <@Bubbles> Luckily I actually have Excalibur as a backup weapon... 15:08 <@Bubbles> Phew, I just got it back. 15:09 <@Bubbles> Oh. My. God. 15:10 <@Bubbles> A death ray just missed me right as I was putting on my gray-scaled armor again - the only thing giving me magic resistance! 15:10 <@Bubbles> I just realized I have reflection as well, but still... 15:12 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Val Fem), 98 points, T:9, demon 15:13 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 9308 points, T:3048, killed by a fire ant 15:15 [hdf-eu] [nh13d] amateurhour (Val Fem), 342 points, T:769, demon 15:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the first wraithworm, on T:38504 15:17 Umbire: I can't calculate. it's actually ~15% 15:18 that's actually quite a lot 15:19 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Joshu, on T:11639 15:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Inf Ith Fem Una), 884 points, T:3283, killed by a gas spore's explosion 15:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 0 points, T:30, killed by a bear trap 15:22 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Daimyo (level 22), on T:29198 15:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 206 points, T:1006, zapped himself with a wand 15:24 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Nbn Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 15:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:29, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:24 -!- Semilg has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:25 -!- Semilg_ has joined #hardfought 15:26 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Nbn Law), 190 points, T:286, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:29736 15:29 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3327 15:30 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:12003 15:30 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pir Elf Fem Neu), 1134 points, T:2168, killed by a poisonous corpse 15:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3946 15:33 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Wiz Hum Nbn Neu), 191 points, T:518, killed by a gnome 15:36 [hdf-us] [un] Loggers (Con Hum Mal Cha), 14 points, T:122, killed by a jackal 15:38 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 15:39 Junethack: Achievement "Anti-Stoner: defeated Medusa in three variants" unlocked by mobileuser! 15:39 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended three variants" unlocked by mobileuser! 15:39 Junethack: mobileuser ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.6 on nethack.alt.org! 15:40 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:40 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 15:41 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Ele Clk Fem Neu), 1800 points, T:1566, killed by a jabberwock 15:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5813 15:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] zor (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 258 points, T:590, killed by a flint stone 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:29751 15:52 -!- Semilg_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:53 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of fire 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:42044 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:42046 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1 15:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 20 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of earth 15:53 [hdf-us] [un] Loggers (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 397 points, T:726, killed by a fox 15:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] Bubble2 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:77739 15:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 529 points, T:417, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 188619 points, T:30163, killed by a shark 15:57 <@Zefnar> oh that feels dumb 15:57 <@Zefnar> :( 15:57 <@Zefnar> !lastgame zefnar 15:57 @Zefnar: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/Z/Zefnar/nethack/dumplog/1655213680.nh.html 16:00 <@Bubbles> A lemure drank a potion of polymorph. On Juiblex's swamp. And turned into a gremlin. You might be able to guess where this is going... 16:00 <@Bubbles> At least they're all fleeing from me because I'm wielding Sol Valtiva... I think one of them even said "Bright light!" Didn't know they had dialogue. 16:00 [hdf-us] [un] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 828 points, T:753, killed by a dwarf king 16:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (humans), on T:1 16:01 Yeah that's new in 3.7 16:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:30702 16:04 [hdf-us] [un] Loggers (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:189, rt[0:10:08] 16:04 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) destroyed the Lokoban Pinata, on T:3900 16:05 -!- pescepalla has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.5] 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:27281 16:09 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:10 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 16:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) found Sunsword on the floor, on T:30958 16:11 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 16:13 [hdf-us] [un] Loggers (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1577, rt[0:19:29] 16:13 @Zefnar I feel for you, eel grabbed me a couple levels higher a day or so ago. But I can't read your endgame log without hearing Mac The Knife in my head ... 16:13 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant mimic, on T:8535 16:14 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:14 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 16:14 [hdf-eu] [xnh] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (for the 3rd time; on level 24, the Dungeons of Doom), on T:40205 16:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:31183 16:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] malor (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:31185 16:16 https://bilious.alt.org/?515 cool idea 16:18 <@malor> Bleeko - I found the bones from that game. Thanks! 16:20 Heh! Happy to help :-) 16:20 Tomsod has some p. solid ideas 16:20 <@malor> I found 7 total bones in one game :). So far its going pretty well. 16:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:9365 16:24 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 30020 points, T:9603, killed by the Rat King 16:26 [hdf-us] [4k] grapp (zor) (Bar Dwa Mal Law) became pious, on T:835 16:30 [hdf-us] [4k] grapp (zor) (Bar Dwa Mal Law), 3843 points, T:1664, killed by a rabid rat, while fainted from lack of food 16:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 16:34 [hdf-us] [un] Loggers (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4994, rt[0:40:37] 16:35 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:14173 16:36 [hdf-eu] [xnh] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:40899 16:36 [hdf-eu] [xnh] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Earth, on T:40899 16:38 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:14417 16:38 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu), 25111 points, T:7047, killed by falling downstairs 16:38 Dang..just like in rl 16:39 rip :( 16:39 [hdf-eu] [xnh] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Air, on T:40973 16:39 <@malor> How did you die that way? Were you nearly dead already? 16:40 Yes.  tried escaping a certain death to some red ants.  I did not give them the pleasure. 16:40 <@malor> Also check out “The Staircase”. Interesting mini-series. Both the dramatized version and the actual documentary. 16:40 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:40 [hdf-eu] [xnh] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Fire, on T:41020 16:41 [hdf-eu] [xnh] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Water, on T:41046 16:42 Is that because Sophie Turner is in it? 16:42 [hdf-us] [un] Loggers (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown, on T:6544, rt[0:48:24] 16:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Cav Hum Mal Law), 60964 points, T:17777, drowned in a pool of water by a giant eel 16:42 It looks interesting.  Thanks for the tip. 16:44 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:60874 16:44 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:60876 16:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Rog Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:8481 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 158 points, T:325, killed by a newt 16:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) found Demonbane on the floor, on T:43245 16:46 [hdf-us] [spl] gingiva (Car Hum Mal Neu), 83 points, T:315, killed by an acid stream 16:46 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:48 Junethack: New user Staengia registered! https://junethack.net/user/Staengia 16:50 -!- lorimer has quit [Quit: NAE TROOSERS] 16:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:43780 16:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 485 points, T:1244, killed by an arrow 16:53 [hdf-us] [spl] gingiva (Car Hum Mal Neu), 171 points, T:694, killed by a large mimic 16:53 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:53 [hdf-us] [spl] gingiva (Rog Vam Fem Cha), 4 points, T:34, killed by kicking a wall 16:54 [hdf-eu] [xnh] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:41442 16:54 [hdf-eu] [fh] MrWarthog (Mon Hum Mal Law), 32504 points, T:1144, killed by a Woodland-elf 16:54 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 16:57 [hdf-us] [4k] zcaio (zor) (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered the Minetown temple, on T:1596 16:57 [hdf-eu] [xnh] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine, on T:41462 16:59 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Mal Neu), 17 points, T:50, slipped while mounting a saddled baby green dragon 16:59 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) destroyed the Lokoban Pinata, on T:1740 16:59 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Elf Nbn Cha), 0 points, T:71, fell into a pit 17:00 [hdf-eu] [xnh] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine (for the 2nd time), on T:41476 17:02 [hdf-eu] [xnh] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Famine (for the 3rd time), on T:41492 17:03 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a silver dragon, on T:61417 17:03 <@Shadow_Rider> youve gotta be kidding me 17:03 <@Shadow_Rider> cool change spork i guess magic mirror of merlin doesnt grant magic resistance 17:04 [hdf-eu] [xnh] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:41515 17:04 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:3455 17:04 yeah Ride it's reflection :/ 17:04 evilhack has that too 17:04 [hdf-eu] [xnh] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:41522 17:05 <@Shadow_Rider> fantastic 17:05 <@Shadow_Rider> not upset at all 17:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided mind flayers, on T:44969 17:05 yeah I get the pain :/ 17:05 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Heliokopis (Wiz Inc Mal Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:2595 17:06 <@Shadow_Rider> better now i guess 17:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Saraneth (Bin Dwa Mal Non) completed Sokoban, on T:9700 17:06 <@Shadow_Rider> rather than getting touch of deathed 17:06 it's painful but sometimes variants need to make changes like this with no adequate way to communicate the changes (because who reads changelogs or wiki pages or reddit announcements amirite) 17:07 Junethack: Arobase ascended a game of NetHack 3.6.6 on nethack.alt.org! 17:07 <@Shadow_Rider> hrm well i read the changelogs and wiki pages but theres a lot of things missing :/// 17:07 an easy way to communicate that something is different is renaming the artifact 17:07 instead of the magic mirror (that reflect magic, hello?) of merlin it could be the ordinary lame-ass mirror of morgana or something 17:08 :) 17:08 [hdf-us] [4k] zcaio (zor) (Mon Hum Fem Neu) were saved from death by your amulet of life saving!, on T:2318 17:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Pri Hum Mal Law), 3141 points, T:6139, killed by a black unicorn 17:09 <@Shadow_Rider> lol i dont actually dislike the variant 17:09 <@Shadow_Rider> seems like ive gotten murphys lawed for every possible thing this month 17:10 @Shadow_Rider Yea I was watching your game and saw you hit a teleport trap and didn;t know how you could be on the bottom level without MR, then you went all silver dragon 17:10 You move faster than I can follow 17:11 [hdf-eu] [xnh] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Death, on T:41575 17:11 <@Shadow_Rider> ya know bleeko i also noticed that and was going to ask about it 17:11 the incredible thing is falling into all the traps and still nailing each variant quickly 17:11 <@Shadow_Rider> but i stupidly was like ill just find the square first 17:12 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:4403 17:12 <@Shadow_Rider> nailing is a stretch 17:12 <@Shadow_Rider> ive been playing the easiest combos as a crutch pretty much 17:13 <@Shadow_Rider> if this game doesnt pan out im going to have to go valk 17:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] Saraneth (Bin Dwa Mal Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:10635 17:13 See you're having some fun with stormy, find or wish? 17:14 it's not a crutch for first few ascensions imo... 17:14 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of leather gloves entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4469 17:14 <@Shadow_Rider> grrrr 17:14 <@Shadow_Rider> i must have wasted at least a dozen enchant armor scrolls enchanting a wielded armor piece 17:15 <@Shadow_Rider> bleeko notice how im a neutral knight 17:15 <@Shadow_Rider> i started out chaotic 17:15 <@Shadow_Rider> mistakes were made 17:15 [hdf-us] [un] Loggers (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 14089 points, T:10619, killed by an owlbear 17:15 [hdf-us] [spl] gingiva (Car Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1770 17:15 You can be a chaotic knight? 17:15 [hdf-us] [spl] gingiva (Car Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful giant rat, on T:1794 17:16 [hdf-us] [spl] gingiva (Car Hum Mal Neu), 1308 points, T:1803, killed by a razor card 17:16 <@Shadow_Rider> yep its a thing in some variants 17:17 <@Shadow_Rider> neutral was not an option tho... 17:17 <@Shadow_Rider> i accidentally converted myself 17:17 Huh, I gotta get out more ... 17:17 <@post163> !lastgame 17:17 @post163: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/g/gingiva/splicehack/dumplog/1655326446.splice.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/M/MrWarthog/fiqhack/dumplog/2022-06-15%2020%3A54%3A18%2C%20MrWarthog-Mon-Hum-Mal-Law%2C%20died.txt | [hdf-au] https://au.hardfought.org/userdata/M/MrWarthog/notdnethack/dumplog/1655308220.ndnh.txt 17:17 lol that's kinda epic though 17:17 It was post-quest at least, so you got the coverage for that 17:18 <@Shadow_Rider> yep gonna probably the only person ever to ascend a neutral spork knight 17:18 <@Shadow_Rider> yea umbire some call it unlucky some call it lucky :P 17:18 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:61712 17:19 [hdf-eu] [xnh] jt (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3053247 points, T:41609, ascended 17:19 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/j/jt/xnethack/dumplog/1654448034.xnh.html 17:19 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) wished for "magic marker", on T:61831 17:21 GG 17:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Arawn2 (Ana Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:17735 17:21 [hdf-us] [4k] zcaio (zor) (Mon Hum Fem Neu), 15999 points, T:3516, killed by a young green dragon, while fainted from lack of food 17:21 <@Shadow_Rider> gg 17:22 gratz jilles \o/ 17:22 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 15 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4735 17:22 jt: Nice going 17:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Rog Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9564 17:23 gg 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Pri Hum Mal Law), 908 points, T:1970, killed by a rothe 17:26 Junethack: jt ascended a game of xNetHack on eu.hardfought.org! 17:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Rog Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:9827 17:28 [hdf-us] [spl] hothraxxa (Sam Hum Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:17198 17:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 17:31 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) murdered her faithful gray fungus, on T:61780 17:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Saraneth (Bin Dwa Mal Non), 100210 points, T:12426, killed by a death ray 17:32 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Sam Elf Mal Neu) rejected atheism by offering corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:3775 17:34 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:34 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:62990 17:34 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:34 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) picked up the Book of the Dead, on T:63000 17:34 grats jilles!! 17:35 Junethack: New user mracich registered! https://junethack.net/user/mracich 17:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 11024 points, T:10589, killed by a panther 17:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Arawn2 (Ana Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:18991 17:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Cav Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2682 17:40 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 17:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 887 points, T:2723, killed by a pony 17:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:44 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Nbn Cha), 68 points, T:120, fell into a pit 17:44 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:64495 17:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Cav Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3083 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 58 points, T:56, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Gno Mal Neu) murdered his faithful little dog, on T:1 17:46 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed the high priestess, on T:64611 17:46 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) picked up the Amulet of Yendor, on T:64614 17:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Arawn2 (Ana Hum Fem Neu) wished for "+3 blessed greased fixed Godhands", on T:19692 17:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Hea Gno Mal Neu), 243 points, T:672, killed by a hobbit 17:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1 17:47 [hdf-us] [xnh] zor (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 365 points, T:428, killed by a gnome lord 17:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 123 points, T:170, killed by a goblin 17:48 aosdict: while I know people have complained about fiqhack's wikipage before, there was a reason I made it the way I did 17:48 can't miss out on any info if *everything* is on a single page 17:48 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:64676 17:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 66 points, T:160, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:50 <@Bubbles> LOL 17:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2315 points, T:2719, killed by a dwarf king 17:50 <@Bubbles> Why not put current stuff on one page and link to the past stuff, which would all be on a different page? 17:51 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Pir Hum Fem Neu), 223 points, T:623, killed by a wand 17:51 go for it 17:51 wiki is public, anyone can edit it 17:51 woo shadowrider is on the ammyrun 17:51 gogogo 17:52 @Bubbles there's a reason I sorted it by year 17:52 FIQ: xnethack is a monopage too, just not organized by years 17:52 and by junethack 17:52 that way those who played the previous year can ignore everything but the last sectio 17:52 n 17:52 <@Bubbles> Oh. 17:52 fiqhack is mostly played during junnethack anyway 17:53 heh, wiztower is cyan in spork 17:53 this assumes most readers of the page are playing fiqhack every junethack and exclusively during junethack 17:53 I'm used to it being purple 17:53 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Sam Elf Mal Neu) had a an apron bestowed upon him by Raijin, on T:5887 17:53 in colored walls variants 17:53 aosdict: It's *easiest* for those people. Doesn't mean others can't read the same info based on when they last played 17:53 <@Bubbles> The Valley of the Dead is mostly greyscale with some blue as well... 17:54 <@Bubbles> In xNetHack at least. 17:54 <@Bubbles> I know it sets the scene, but it feels weird not being able to tell many monsters apart by color. 17:54 blue is probably because you have use_darkgray off 17:54 so black 17:55 <@Bubbles> Is there a way to remove this effect so monsters show up in color? 17:55 no 17:55 welcome to HELL 17:55 there is 17:55 iirc the colored walls patch provide an option to disable it 17:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] arckex (Sam Hum Mal Law) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:6967 17:56 there is no such option. 3.4.3 era patches never cleanly apply so they're never adopted verbatim 17:56 hmm ok 17:56 <@Bubbles> And even if there was a patch, it's not like I can go and apply it to a public server myself... 17:56 what about vt_tiledata? 17:57 I also agree with ais523 that implementing every thing that people want an option for leads to too much option proliferation, and options can never really be removed 17:57 Demo: that would technically work 17:57 i think u could write a client that could abuse the vt_tiledata 17:57 but then you'd need a translation layer 17:57 <@Bubbles> Sorry to bother you! 17:57 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65289 17:57 to see color in the valley 17:57 yeah 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 655 points, T:1207, killed by a dwarf 17:57 something InterHack-like would work 17:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] arckex (Sam Hum Mal Law), 10258 points, T:6973, poisoned by a vampire bat 17:57 <@Bubbles> I'm not asking for any new features, just whether it's already there. 17:57 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Div Elf Mal Neu), 730 points, T:1387, died of starvation 17:57 I, on the other hand, am asking for new features 17:58 well it might go away when things are brought into full compliance with the new glyph system in 3.7 17:59 new glyph system? 18:00 sounds interesting, NH4's theme engine does *not* lend itself to being customized whatsoever 18:00 so I've considered replacing it 18:00 ok that's not entirely true, but very mcuh so for server play 18:00 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:65679 18:02 isnt nh4 supposed to let u set unicode characters for things and be really goofy 18:02 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 18:02 unicode tiles whatever 18:02 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 18:02 my issue is that I can't make custom NH4 themes on server play 18:03 <@Bubbles> Although you're here again, now, aosdict, I was thinking of something. You're the one who wrote that balance issues essay on the wiki? 18:03 what wiki article? 18:03 lots of people have strong opinions on balance 18:03 wouldn't surprise me if there's several articles on it 18:03 <@Bubbles> https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Phol_ende_wodan/Balance_issues 18:03 they are all wrong but me 18:04 <@Bubbles> A lot of that one looks good, but it's actually the very last part that hits me the most for some reason. 18:04 <@Bubbles> I quote: "The number of difficulty-appropriate monsters attacking you simultaneously should generally take the same number of turns to kill you throughout the game. However, this is not the case as it currently stands: a low-level character can get doomed by being surrounded even by weak monsters like jackals and newts, while an endgame character can wade through mobs of hostile priests and angels in the End Game for many turns without being at 18:04 serious risk." 18:04 <@Bubbles> That, there, might be the biggest problem I have with NetHack. 18:04 [hdf-us] [xnh] zor (Mon Hum Fem Law), 344 points, T:878, killed by a giant bat, while fainted from lack of food 18:05 <@Bubbles> I see it even now, while I'm wading through Gehennom. You become pretty much invincible in the late game, and you shouldn't. Monsters should be doing more damage to you. 18:05 play sporkhack if you wanna die in late game 18:05 you have so much more time invested by late game so it is more meaningful to die 18:06 a lot of the reason for that is the ridiculous HP regen later on 18:06 HP regeneration scaling is... odd 18:06 to say the least 18:06 <@Bubbles> Believe me, I've been checking the NetHack scoreboard and even Sporkhack has very few late-game deaths. 18:06 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:66418 18:06 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:66418 18:06 <@Bubbles> Yeah, several people have pointed this out. But... I was attracted to NetHack precisely because it's hyped up as a ridiculously difficult game where you can die at any point. 18:06 there's a cut-off level where HP regeneration goes from being very slow, to being very fast 18:07 thats cause only total noobs or total pros play it 18:07 unless your constitution is less than 12 18:07 -!- sylv_ has joined #hardfought 18:07 shadow_rider is gonna start evilhack and waltz right through it, make it look easy 18:07 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:4510 18:07 gonna have to rethink some things :P 18:07 -!- sylv has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:07 with 12 constitution, you generate d12 HP at level 13 iirc 18:07 <@Bubbles> For me at least, things become boring if there's no real threat. 18:07 with 11 con, you get 1 18:07 it's really weird 18:08 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Mad Dwa Fem Law), 32 points, T:174, killed by a water moccasin 18:08 <@Bubbles> Yeah, I think there's also another part of it, in that you can get really high ACs and AC also acts as damage reduction for things that do hit. 18:08 <@Bubbles> EvilHack also implements that damage reduction for monsters, at least. 18:09 <@ChrisANG> It seemed like an obvious bug to me. Like it's supposed to be 1d(Con-11) 18:10 what if, to penalize being surrounded 18:10 every monster attack that incurs damage reduction reduces your effective AC by the reduced damage amount for that turn? 18:11 <@Bubbles> Interesting. I've not seen that before. Although I've heard some suggestions for flanking mechanics. I was never really into NetHack flanking, but maybe it would be a good idea. 18:12 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu) killed Famine, on T:66622 18:12 splicehack implemented a type of flanking mechanic 18:12 player and monster 18:12 [hdf-us] [sp] shadowrider38 (Kni Orc Mal Neu), 3777022 points, T:66634, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/s/shadowrider38/sporkhack/dumplog/1655228466.sp.txt 18:13 jfc @shadow_rider, congrats 18:13 [hdf-eu] [un] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1180, rt[0:06:15] 18:13 Nice Job! Straight up the middle 18:13 @shadowrider grats! how was spork? :) 18:13 you're making this look easy 18:13 never ascended spork personally 18:13 lol 18:13 <@Shadow_Rider> :) thanks all 18:13 <@Shadow_Rider> fiq i do like the changes, but everything kept going wrong this run for me 18:14 <@Shadow_Rider> some of them were my fault, some of them was stuff that wasnt documented at all 18:14 like? 18:14 <@Bubbles> Another one I like is separating AC and damage reduction (which I think has also been discussed). For instance, heavy armor should lower your evasiveness, meaning more attacks will hit, but it reduces the damage of attacks that hit a lot. 18:14 <@Shadow_Rider> well there was last run that i tried using opposite alignment and celestial disgraced 18:15 mean 18:15 <@Shadow_Rider> found out today that magic mirror of merlin gives reflection in spork and evil 18:15 <@Shadow_Rider> so i became a silver dragon rawr 18:15 that makes sense to me 18:15 ^ amd half spell damage 18:15 *and 18:15 <@Shadow_Rider> reflection does make a lot more sense 18:15 it does the same in fiqhack iirc 18:16 <@Shadow_Rider> also advice to anyone whos plans to ever play sporkhack 18:16 <@Shadow_Rider> pick something that can twoweapon 18:16 <@Shadow_Rider> or risk hating yourself 18:16 odd that that change never made it onto the MMoM wiki page 18:16 the change to mmom for evilhack is on the evilhack page 18:16 hm was looking through my changelog wrt magic mirror to see what I did 18:16 and found this entry 18:17 Magic missile now does less damage at lower skills than Expert. However, they can now disrupt reflection at Skilled and semi-bypass MR (so MR only halves damage) at Expert. The Magic Mirror of Merlin's double damage will not apply to other Knights (including yourself), to compensate. Watch out for lategame magic missile users! 18:17 the 2nd part of this makes no sense 18:17 I don't understand what it's trying to say lol 18:17 I did some sourcediving and Spork buffed two-handed weapons considerably. 18:17 FIQ you were drunk when you wrote it I bet 18:17 <@Shadow_Rider> lmao 18:17 you were like 'blaaargh pffft wut uuugh' ENTER 18:18 ah here is what I was actually looking for 18:18 Magic Mirror of Merlin confers total reflection (like in vanilla, dragons and skilled+ wands can't bypass it) 18:18 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Nob Elf Fem Cha), 167 points, T:1373, died of starvation 18:18 <@Shadow_Rider> thats seems like a considerable buff 18:18 <@Shadow_Rider> i like the idea 18:19 it does make sense as a dragon counter, considering what role gets it 18:19 having "proper" wand reflection is a nice bonus too 18:19 errrmahgerd gnome gtfo of my way 18:19 seriously... i cant wait 18:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:19 adding some qol bits to sporkhack, peacefuls getting the f out your way is one of them 18:19 (after junethack) 18:20 you being able to displace them you mean? 18:20 yes thats what i said 18:20 gtfo 18:20 [hdf-eu] [un] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2186, rt[0:13:33] 18:20 mah way 18:20 sorry 18:20 ... 18:20 :P 18:20 !booze FIQ 18:20 * Beholder delivers FIQ a glass of the hard stuff, brewed by demogorgon at 39 degrees Celsius. 18:20 I will "fuck off" then 18:20 afk 18:20 no not you 18:20 goof 18:20 the gnome 18:21 * K2 sighs 18:21 sarcasm doesnt always go over well via text only 18:22 <@Bubbles> Oof. 18:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Val Hum Fem Neu), 4913 points, T:3782, killed by an acid blob 18:22 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Ran Orc Fem Cha), 1072 points, T:862, killed by Ms. Kadirli, the shopkeeper 18:23 <@Bubbles> Here's one more thing I just thought of before I go... why can't giants ride dragons in EvilHack? 18:23 because they can ride woolly mammoths 18:23 <@Bubbles> Yeah, but adult dragons are the same size as giants. 18:23 <@Bubbles> Oops 18:23 <@Bubbles> Replace giants 18:23 <@Bubbles> with woolly mammoths in that sentence. 18:24 https://www.fxguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/GOT4_nomanslands_sketch034.jpg 18:24 Junethack: shadowrider38 ascended a game of SporkHack on www.hardfought.org! 18:24 Junethack: Achievement "Diversity Ascender: Ascended sixteen variants" unlocked by shadowrider38! 18:24 GoT was the inspiration 18:25 <@Bubbles> I wonder if there ever will be giants riding dragons on that show - we've already had humans riding dragons and the dragons being really big, I think. 18:25 if there are maybe then k2 can allow it in evilhack 18:26 <@Bubbles> LOL. I actually was surprised to see how few Gigantic-sized monsters there are in NetHack. 18:26 yeah it is small 18:26 <@Bubbles> There are long worms and purple worms along with the various adult dragons, but I can understand worms not being rideable at all. 18:27 <@Bubbles> (Sandworms were ridden in Dune and I think there's some D&D material about illithids riding purple worms in their mouths, but it probably would be too much effort to try to program such things.) 18:28 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:6172 18:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Dro Fem Cha) killed the invisible Grue, on T:15790 18:29 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Pri Nym Mal Cha), 549 points, T:1078, killed by a kitten, while fainted from lack of food 18:30 <@Bubbles> My other issue is with a few of the taming restrictions (only orcs can tame wargs, cave dwellers saber-toothed tigers, etc.) It just feels weird because the vast majority of the time, anyone is capable of taming any tameable monster. I do understand the flavor reasoning, but it still feels arbitrary due to the usual non-restrictedness (An elf could tame a wolf or a winter wolf. An elf could even tame an orc!) 18:31 <@Bubbles> Then again, I still wish you could tame other player monsters and form an adventuring party with lots of great loot, so I might just be really weird. 18:31 Playing 343 and got jumped by a mob in the bigroom, ended up taming a wraith (among other things) Talk about an unlikely pet. 18:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 415112 points, T:16004, killed by a soldier, while frozen by a potion 18:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed PetraKelly's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1468 18:32 <@Bubbles> To be clear, this is all really minor, EvilHack is an amazing game and I love it xD. 18:32 <@Bubbles> I think I've been complaining too much recently and I want to move away from that. 18:34 bubbles proceeds to launch into a balance discussion while I am afk, classic 18:34 <@Bubbles> Sorry. 18:36 I think no one variant has come up with a golden bullet solution for late game invincibility, because if it had then everyone else would copy it 18:36 variants that do address it seem to take more tacks like making the late game monsters/bosses harder 18:36 <@Bubbles> Maybe. Although maybe some people like it? As has been pointed out, losing in the late game means you've lost much more than if you lost in the early game. 18:37 because fundamental changes to combat and damage are hard to do without mucking up the whole game's progression 18:37 <@Bubbles> Yeah, although I've heard a few suggestions. 18:39 they're also hard to do while keeping players happy and not having to learn a whole new system 18:40 that's one reason why I'm less interested in doing a combat overhaul in xnethack these days, because I'd have to undo a lot of what vanilla does and it would make the variant less accessible 18:43 The thing about taming restrictions is there's a lot of stronger stuff than those that don't have any restrictions 18:47 [hdf-us] [ndnh] post163 (Nob Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:163 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 84 points, T:163, caught himself in his own magical blast 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 4574 points, T:6741, killed by a human mummy 18:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (humans), on T:1 18:55 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Sam Elf Mal Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:9436 19:04 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Sam Elf Mal Neu) had a a kabuto bestowed upon him by Raijin, on T:10047 19:05 that's odd 19:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1517 points, T:2294, killed by a mind flayer 19:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] kscheirer (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) killed Orcus, on T:47175 19:07 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:7747 19:08 <@malor> Nice job on spork shadow! 19:09 what's left to do @shadow_rider ? 19:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Cav Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6212 19:10 <@Shadow_Rider> grunt and evil 19:10 <@Shadow_Rider> this should be interestin 19:10 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:8049 19:11 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:8164 19:13 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Chf Hum Mal Neu), 846 points, T:1053, killed by a dwarf 19:13 <@malor> Did you go one out of one on spork? 19:14 <@Shadow_Rider> nope there was that accidental celestial disgrace 19:14 <@Shadow_Rider> and also a few games i just died 19:15 dcss has clouds be § 19:15 maybe NetHack should inherit this 19:15 it really doesn't need to overload # more than it already does 19:15 hi FIQ, welcome to #hardfought 19:16 Hello K2 and welcome to #hardfought. Enjoy your stay! 19:16 you understand now right? 19:16 <@malor> Ok 1 out of 5. Pretty good! 19:16 Understand what? 19:16 i wasnt saying gtfo to you earlier 19:16 @malor that's a p bad grade... 19:16 K2: Oh? 19:16 Seemed that way to me 19:16 omg 19:16 <@malor> We need a pick contest on the total game count between grunt and evil. My guess is 10 total games. 19:17 re-read the whole past conversation 19:17 @malor really? 19:17 grunthack is a lot of fun 19:17 why would i say that to you? silly 19:17 can't speak for evil, I don't play it much 19:17 <@malor> You thinking less? 19:17 K2: you replied and then immediately said gtfo 19:17 what am I supposed to think? 19:17 ok idk if I can with confidence say that grunthack is that fun 19:18 sure, I love some ideas that it has 19:18 ... 19:18 but my god 19:18 the last grunt game I ascended 19:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed rustproof +2 helm of brilliance", on T:8687 19:18 I hated the experience 19:18 specifically the zombies 19:18 see I like not getting amnesia 19:18 [hdf-eu] [un] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4751, rt[0:42:14] 19:18 and the one altar level in the entire game was zombie infested 19:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 19:18 and they would just respawn 19:18 over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over 19:19 and over 19:19 seriously, fuck that game 19:19 it wasn't difficult 19:19 grunt samurai is best 19:19 imo 19:19 it wasn't scary 19:19 it was just 19:19 fucking annoying 19:19 grunt samurai gets really good items on the quest 19:19 <@malor> Shadow has 3 game in both evil and grunt. That helps a bit. I am still staying with 10. 19:19 if you can make it to astral you can basically nuke everything there and it is a joke 19:19 Demo: oh? 19:19 in what way? 19:19 detonation ya spam 19:20 detonation doesn't do that much damage, does it? 19:20 although samurai would get multishot 19:20 but you can also just wish 19:20 for detonation 19:20 idk what the dice on the fireballs are 19:20 thats a waste of a wish usually 19:20 it'd give the same effect 19:20 [hdf-us] [un] Loggers (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 646 points, T:387, killed by a giant beetle 19:20 better off wishing for props and dragonhide pieces 19:20 and kit pieces 19:20 idk i guess if u manage to have semispare wishes 19:21 samurai early game is also easier cause intrinsic speed and katana is nice 19:21 and god likes to give you katana with property early on 19:21 but I like playing wiz 19:21 wiz is also probably good late game but that must be hell early game 19:21 are god gift properties pre-IDed? 19:21 no but you can hit stuff with them and figure it out 19:21 !tell FIQ i was not telling you to gtfo, it was to the gnome in my spork game that was repeatedly getting in my way 19:21 FIQ shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, K2. 19:21 fair enough Demo 19:21 FIQ: Message from K2 at 2022-06-15 19:21 EDT: i was not telling you to gtfo, it was to the gnome in my spork game that was repeatedly getting in my way 19:21 <@malor> Hm grunt seems easier. Down to 8 for my game count guess. 19:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) bestowed with Magicbane by Thoth, on T:2339 19:22 !tell FIQ hugs <3 19:22 I'm on it, K2. 19:22 I should ascend at least one variant this june 19:22 FIQ: Message from K2 at 2022-06-15 19:22 EDT: hugs <3 19:22 grunthack is probably the most difficult early game 19:22 but once you get 1-2 wishes and wish up the right things, the game gets fairly easy 19:23 that to me is a gigantic balance problem 19:23 yup 19:23 it was still fun to play 19:23 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Elf-Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1435 19:23 of course the only person I would want to change that is sgrunt so... 19:23 but it has balance issues 19:23 well I guess someone could fork it and make grunthack+ or something 19:23 u mean evilhack? 19:24 if i hadnt created evilhack, i prob would have kept working on grunthack 19:24 yeah k2 kept touching it 19:24 "fun to play" yes K2 I will tell myself that as I search the dungeon for vlad the second time 19:24 but there was too much to polish 19:24 burn it all down and start anew 19:24 evilhack :) 19:24 better to just make your own thing and pull in the good bits 19:24 aosdict: what, you don't like vlad being guranteed a cursed tele scroll? :P 19:24 vlad is guaranteed up to *3* cursed tele scrolls 19:25 oh 19:25 I thought there was just the one 19:25 maybe ur thinking of slex scrolls of root password detection 19:25 I've considered making levelporting monsters leave a temporary portal behind 19:25 so players can emulate how monsters follow you 19:25 where are you on your gh game aosdict? 19:25 that's a cool idea fiq 19:26 aosdict: grunthack inspired fiqhack 19:26 mid gehennom not counting scouring the dungeon for vlad again 19:26 i ascended gh once so now i never have to do it again 19:26 because monster/player symmetry and AI improvements 19:26 fiq u mean when the monster ai crashes the game regularly? 19:26 in grunt 19:26 I don't think grunthack has any crashes? 19:26 besides the spit thing 19:26 which was fixed ages ago 19:26 hahahah 19:26 hahahahahah 19:27 I haven't had any other crashes at least 19:27 i think i will let k2s laughter speak for that 19:27 [hdf-us] [un] Loggers (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1153, rt[0:06:22] 19:27 i fixed one several days ago 19:27 maybe I'm built different 19:27 K2: I typically don't make a habit of throwing mirrors 19:27 not saying fixing it was silly 19:27 but it's not like it's a crash that is going to come up often 19:27 any breakable object could have caused it 19:27 :P 19:27 and bear in mind that a lot of these are probably fixed on the hdf version now 19:27 oh? 19:27 like arrow mulching? 19:28 or a potion 19:28 ah 19:28 interesting 19:28 I didn't notice 19:28 and I'm fairly sure I've thrown !para in grunt 19:28 probably againt vlad because I liked him without his telescrolls 19:28 [hdf-us] [un] Loggers (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown, on T:1400, rt[0:07:56] 19:28 [hdf-us] [un] Loggers (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a temple, on T:1434, rt[0:08:12] 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3175 19:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 2132 points, T:3186, killed by a pony called Vita Fidelia 19:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:21, slipped while mounting a saddled pony called Applejack 19:32 [hdf-eu] [un] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered Minetown, on T:6350, rt[0:56:26] 19:32 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 12510 points, T:3245, killed by an invisible gnome lady, while fainted from lack of food 19:33 [hdf-eu] [un] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:6394, rt[0:57:09] 19:33 [hdf-eu] [un] jt (Ran Orc Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:6413, rt[0:57:33] 19:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 331 points, T:378, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 19:34 -!- kewldewd has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34 -!- kewldewd has joined #hardfought 19:34 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 82 points, T:131, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 19:34 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 19:35 [hdf-us] [un] Loggers (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered a shop, on T:2506, rt[0:14:53] 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor, on T:48285 19:37 -!- Glasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:48298 19:38 [hdf-us] [gnoll] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 31623 points, T:541, killed by a ghoul 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] zor (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 560 points, T:946, killed by a brown mold 19:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4457 19:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:48560 19:45 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", got "a blessed greased gray dragon scale mail", on T:4976 19:46 <@Shadow_Rider> @malor i think these last two will either go as smoothly as everything else or have me until the very last day 19:46 <@Shadow_Rider> one of the two 19:46 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:13222 19:46 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 19:47 <@Zefnar> two variants left shadow? 19:47 <@Shadow_Rider> indeed 19:47 <@Zefnar> splice and evil? 19:47 <@Shadow_Rider> grunt and evil 19:47 <@Shadow_Rider> arguably two of the hardest variants 19:47 <@Zefnar> hm when did i miss your splice asc 19:47 <@Zefnar> dwa val? 19:47 <@Shadow_Rider> it was yeah 19:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:48831 19:48 how difficult did you find splicehack? 19:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:48843 19:49 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Ran Dro Mal Cha), 446 points, T:825, killed by a gnome 19:49 <@Shadow_Rider> early game was quite difficult, and yes grizzly bears were the worst part :) 19:50 oh good, i'm not crazy then 19:50 <@Shadow_Rider> i know i lost a game a while back to malcanthet or something 19:50 indeed, having played a few splice games I noticed the early game seems to be harder 19:50 this confirms my suspicions 19:50 <@Shadow_Rider> but bribing is a thing so geh wasnt as bad 19:50 <@Shadow_Rider> yes we are all in this together when it comes to the bears 19:50 <@Shadow_Rider> among other things but mainly bears 19:51 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Pir Dop Mal Neu), 144 points, T:399, killed by a bat 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:49166 19:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zHz (Mon Hum Mal Neu) bestowed with Dragonbane by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:19606 19:54 !rng sleep nethack 19:54 nabru: sleep 19:55 [hdf-us] [gh] aosdictj (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the invisible Geryon, on T:23133 19:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 52157 points, T:15012, killed by a balrog 20:00 -!- NetSysFire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 -!- NetSysFire has joined #hardfought 20:01 maybe grizzly bear base difficulty doesn't match with its stats 20:01 i havent looked 20:02 i refuse to see one irl 20:02 i will go to the grave never having 20:02 heh 20:03 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1292 20:05 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 20:06 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:08 I mean you can drive around western national parks and see them from the safety of your car 20:08 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 20:08 I don't wanna see one ever 20:09 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Kni Elf Mal Cha), 132408 points, T:28961, killed by a giant centipede 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] wmahan (Pri Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first object, on T:30211 20:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:51136 20:13 [hdf-us] [gh] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2063 points, T:2472, zombified by a gnomish zombie 20:16 <@Shadow_Rider> dang 20:17 <@Shadow_Rider> game doesn't interrupt when stuff comes into view 20:17 <@Shadow_Rider> waits until the zombies already eat me to tell me 20:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful large cat, on T:69736 20:19 3.6/7 should fix that but grunt, nope 20:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] jmcunx (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 699 points, T:2236, killed by a hobgoblin, while fainted from lack of food 20:20 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Sam Hum Mal Law), 15408 points, T:2896, killed by a gnome king, while fainted from lack of food 20:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "magic marker", got "a magic marker", on T:51524 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:51527 20:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Earth, on T:51527 20:21 [hdf-us] [gh] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:1823 20:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5th time), on T:51529 20:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Air, on T:51703 20:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zHz (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became Chih Sung-tzu's Envoy of Balance, on T:19808 20:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] zHz (Mon Hum Mal Neu) bestowed with spellbook of restore ability, on T:19808 20:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Fire, on T:51757 20:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Water, on T:51805 20:29 Hi K2. Any chance you could fix my gnlhk game? 20:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:70194 20:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:52037 20:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:70222 20:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed partially eaten cockatrice corpse", got "a partly eaten cockatrice corpse", on T:52040 20:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law) averted death (petrified by a cockatrice corpse), on T:52041 20:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1220827 points, T:52043, petrified by touching a cockatrice corpse bare-handed (with the Amulet) 20:33 !lastgame finitelycraig 20:33 Demo: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/f/finitelycraig/nethack/dumplog/1655037821.nh.html | [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/f/finitelycraig/nethack/dumplog/1654453952.nh.html 20:36 ouch 20:36 and they had gloves 20:36 probably someone is screaming and slamming their head against a wall 20:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:70410 20:40 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 975 points, T:1204, killed by an orcish short sword 20:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed Dispater, on T:70474 20:42 [hdf-us] [spl] rez0 (Dra Hum Mal Cha) consulted the Oracle, on T:1979 20:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:70504 20:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Cav Hum Mal Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10420 20:46 [hdf-us] [spl] rez0 (Dra Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2415 20:47 [hdf-us] [gnoll] zor (Ran Elf Mal Neu), 5000 points, T:659, killed by a manes 20:53 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 930 points, T:1316, killed by a gnome, while fainted from lack of food 20:54 @d?hooloovoo 20:54 hooloovoo (U) | Lvl: 9 | Diff: 17 | Spd: 6 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 25 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: Nat 8/Dodge 0/Prot 0 | Attacks: 0d0 touch teleportation, 0d0 tinker tinker | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, phases, infravisible 20:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] DoktorL (Cav Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an orc zombie, on T:10842 20:57 r - a blessed rusty +2 helm of brilliance (being worn) 20:57 E - a blessed rustproof +5 pair of gauntlets of power 20:57 S - a blessed +1 pair of speed boots (being worn) 20:57 Spot the difference 20:58 i was expecting they wished for something and died on wish and then dropped it and died again, not that 20:58 [hdf-eu] [spl] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law), 45 points, T:201, killed by a newt 21:01 Valk as well, not sure why they were ever off 21:01 Disrobed at some point pre-ascension run and never checked again? 21:02 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Brd Hlf Mal Cha), 1172 points, T:1467, killed by a werejackal 21:07 [hdf-eu] [spl] finitelycraig (Val Dwa Fem Law), 769 points, T:1487, killed by a pack rat 21:10 [hdf-us] [xnh] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:24393 21:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed zor's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:7494 21:15 -!- Arseniy has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:18 [hdf-us] [xnh] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) was given Excalibur by the Lady of the Lake, on T:24870 21:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] qt (Val Dwa Fem Law) was given the Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala, on T:44251 21:21 that is a good artifact right? I've seen people wishing for it before 21:22 bad now cause communion glyph 21:22 not bad just not good 21:22 still good just not ideal 21:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] zor (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 730 points, T:1174, killed by a sewer rat 21:23 not necessary anymore cause communion glyph so it makes sense sometimes to use that artiwish for something else 21:23 -!- krm26 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:23 but it's still nice to get it from prayer like this? 21:23 oh as a gift 21:23 that is insane yes 21:23 make sure to bless it 21:23 okay I'll do that 21:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Mal Cha) bestowed with Sting by Huan Ti, on T:7849 21:24 <@Zefnar> thanks huan ti. 21:24 <@Zefnar> you shouldnt have. 21:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Mal Cha) bestowed with Orcrist by Huan Ti, on T:8049 21:26 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 21:26 [hdf-us] [xnh] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed +2 greased silver dragon scales", on T:25159 21:27 <@Zefnar> when youre gifted an artifact weapon, you are unlocked in that skill as well correct? 21:27 Yes 21:27 Zefnar: yeah, that's right, it's unlocked so that you can enhance it 1 time 21:27 Unrestricted to Basic cap 21:28 You can get an additional skill level if you crown while wielding your weapon of course 21:28 <@Zefnar> hm. 21:28 <@Zefnar> not good enough 21:28 wow I didn't know that Umbire 21:28 once you got something unlocked up to Basic, if you're wielding it while crowned that unlocks it one further level? 21:28 Typically you're not crowning specifically for that 21:28 <@Zefnar> sting and orcrist still suck too much 21:29 Yeah iirc, and you get the skillpoint to go with it 21:29 Sting and Orcrist are indeed eh, but latter unlocks broadsword for you at least 21:29 Heliokopis yeah. sorry, on it now 21:29 So you could wield it while crowned and get up to skilled for Stormbringer 21:29 (or just get Stormbringer and do it with that lol) 21:29 Heliokopis, game recovered 21:29 I am the one that should apologize.  Thanks and sorry for the interrupt. 21:30 <@Zefnar> i may try for storm bringer later but for now a blessed enchanted aklys will be fine 21:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed wand of polymorph", on T:12087 21:31 <@Zefnar> i like the pseudo-range it offers 21:31 pseudo they says 21:31 but yeah that's more than sufficient 21:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] Arawn2 (Ana Hum Mal Neu) killed Shelob, on T:24556 21:32 as an aside elven priests are selected specifically because they can force a first gift stormbringer 21:32 <@Zefnar> :) 21:33 Umbire: it doesn't look to me like crowning lets you advance a previously-restricted beyond Basic, at least in 3.7. it calls unrestrict_weapon_skill(weapon_type(uwep)) which is a no-op unless the skill is currently restricted 21:34 [hdf-us] [4k] nimmsx (zor) (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 7443 points, T:1844, killed by a gnome 21:34 Oh, I made assumptions then 21:34 ignore me 21:34 that could be pretty cool if you could strategize like that to bring it further up though... 21:34 it's a cool idea, I was hoping it was true 21:35 maybe it would run counter to the purpose of having different weapon restrictions/skill levels i guess, but it seems like it'd be fun 21:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Gallant, on T:8511 21:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 27473 points, T:3548, killed by a winter wolf cub 21:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 145 points, T:278, killed by a gnome 21:46 [hdf-us] [slth] dnny (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 26162 points, T:7252, killed by a large mimic 21:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:9286 21:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Wiz Elf Fem Neu), 59 points, T:446, killed by a crossbow bolt 21:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 16 points, T:325, killed by a jackal 21:55 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Pri Hum Mal Cha), 8518 points, T:1773, killed by a dog 21:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 4 points, T:16, burned by an exploding fire bomb 21:56 [hdf-us] [dnh] Som (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 169 points, T:229, killed by a grid bug 21:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:148, killed by a water moccasin 21:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Arawn2 (Ana Hum Mal Neu) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:25181 21:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] AlchemicRaker (Pri Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4321 21:58 [hdf-us] [gh] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:6950 21:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 67 points, T:365, killed by an arrow 22:00 [hdf-eu] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) murdered her faithful pseudodragon, on T:121 22:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] ScreamingSkull (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 80 points, T:158, killed by a newt 22:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Arawn2 (Ana Hum Mal Neu) killed the invisible Lungorthin, on T:25318 22:03 -!- rebatela has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2444 22:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed ring of polymorph", got "a moonstone ring", on T:2637 22:12 [hdf-us] [spl] gingiva (Car Hum Mal Neu), 313 points, T:666, killed by a dwarf 22:13 [hdf-us] [slth] zor (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 5316 points, T:2801, killed by a watch captain, while praying unsuccessfully 22:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:11393 22:14 [hdf-us] [gh] shadowrider38 (Val Dwa Fem Law) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:8808 22:15 wished for "blessed ring of polymorph" but only got a lousy "moonstone ring", what a ripoff 22:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed the invisible high priest of Moloch, on T:70915 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:70921 22:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 7753 points, T:3669, killed by an ettin mummy 22:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:70938 22:20 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 22:20 [hdf-us] [un] halo (Sam Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3268, rt[0:58:57] 22:21 [hdf-us] [un] halo (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1470 points, T:3293, choked on a gunyoki 22:24 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Cav Bat Mal Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1784 22:25 [hdf-us] [sp] k2 (Sam Elf Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:17868 22:26 [hdf-us] [nh343] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had a long sword named Frost Brand bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:12222 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1244 22:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law), 98444 points, T:28093, fell to her death, while jumping around 22:29 gnite all o/ 22:29 good night K2 22:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1014 22:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2271 points, T:1182, killed by a dwarf 22:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1559 points, T:2201, killed by a gnome lord, while fainted from lack of food 22:41 [hdf-us] [xnh] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2826 22:42 -!- b93 has joined #hardfought 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh343] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of magic mapping", on T:12543 22:48 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1225 22:52 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 22:53 [hdf-us] [nh343] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Dark One, on T:12721 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh343] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:12723 22:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Zefnar (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:13006 22:55 <@paradox> Dis looks like the worst place to have the statue madness activate lol 22:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1735 points, T:1823, killed by a gnome lord 22:57 [hdf-us] [nh343] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had a runed broadsword named Stormbringer bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:12770 23:00 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Cav Bat Mal Neu) destroyed the Lokoban Pinata, on T:7682 23:02 [hdf-us] [xnh] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:7995 23:05 [hdf-us] [ndnh] wintergalaxy88 (Cav Eth Mal Neu) killed Juiblex, on T:32855 23:07 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 402 points, T:647, killed by a gnome lord 23:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] nmlkj (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 172 points, T:229, killed by an arrow 23:13 [hdf-us] [xnh] disperse (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:10076 23:15 <@paradox> er where's the downstairs mephisto and baal's level? 23:15 [hdf-us] [nh343] knnn (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed magic whistle", on T:56434 23:15 -!- kewldewd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed +2 silver dragon scale mail", got "a silver dragon scale mail", on T:1441 23:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fireproof +2 pair of speed boots", got "a pair of riding boots", on T:1449 23:22 <@ChrisANG> paradox: the stairs are hidden off the second moat. 23:22 <@ChrisANG> Top or bottom, look for secret doors I believe. 23:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed WizzyTheWeird's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:1555 23:24 <@paradox> hmmm all right 23:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Zefnar's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:1571 23:25 [hdf-us] [nh343] anselmus (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:13092 23:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first artifact wish - "blessed Orb of Fate", got "a glass orb named the Orb of Fate", on T:1574 23:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Chieftain (level 26), on T:71868 23:27 [hdf-au] [nh370] Mishka (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2597 23:27 [hdf-au] [un] Orcranger (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) bribed Asmodeus with 5000 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27671, rt[11:13:10] 23:27 [hdf-us] [slshm] kalik (Hea Dop Mal Neu), 446 points, T:1011, killed by a coyote 23:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1902 23:29 [hdf-au] [un] Orcranger (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:27719 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] knnn (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56750 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] knnn (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:56759 23:31 [hdf-us] [nh343] knnn (Val Dwa Fem Law) picked up the Book of the Dead, on T:56761 23:32 [hdf-us] [nh343] bleeko (Bar Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:20718 23:32 [hdf-au] [nh370] Mishka (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1247 points, T:3142, killed by a giant bat, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 23:33 [hdf-au] [un] Orcranger (Wiz Vam Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 4000 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:27864, rt[11:19:17] 23:34 [hdf-us] [nh343] knnn (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:56948 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:72638 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered Plane of Earth, on T:72638 23:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor (5th time), on T:72643 23:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] Arawn2 (Ana Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:26268 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed ring of polymorph control", got "a ruby ring", on T:2631 23:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) wished for "Blessed amulet of unchanging", got "a cubical amulet", on T:2632 23:44 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Wiz Ith Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:66376 23:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] knnn (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:57247 23:44 [hdf-us] [nh343] knnn (Val Dwa Fem Law) picked up the Amulet of Yendor, on T:57250 23:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:3281 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered Plane of Air, on T:72701 23:49 [hdf-us] [nh343] knnn (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57671 23:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered Plane of Fire, on T:72753 23:51 [hdf-us] [nh343] knnn (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:57987 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered Plane of Water, on T:72820 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) genocided class ;, on T:72822 23:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Bar Hum Mal Cha) entered the Astral Plane, on T:72875