00:04 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 00:21 EvilHack updated (all servers) 00:24 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:24 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 00:38 I really like what you've done with this new addition 00:39 oo wat he do 00:39 K2 wat u do 00:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) polymorphed his first object, on T:19620 00:44 thanks Umbire 00:45 I need to give it a formal spin, I forget if I have an open slot on AU though 00:45 stella - https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/u3yjad/evilhack_080_has_been_released/ 00:46 And we're off to the races 00:52 * paxed places a bet on a segfault in the next 24 hours 00:52 haha 00:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Croesus, on T:19924 00:53 heh 00:53 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 00:53 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 00:53 Yay 00:54 paxed: i'll take that bet but only if you promise not to run the fuzzer against evilhack 0.8.0 00:54 [hdf-us] [gh] slarty (Hea Gno Fem Neu), 882 points, T:9034, zombified by a kobold zombie 00:55 Found it, DL 2 this game 00:56 stella: ha. running 3.7 fuzzer is enough for me 00:56 Gonna gear up before I dip in proper 00:56 <@Umbyre (he/him)> @01-MTF Thanks again btw 00:57 what for 00:57 that was me rebooting rld just now lol 00:58 <@01-MTF> wait 00:58 <@01-MTF> .... its working??? 00:58 yeah i just tried booting it 00:58 and it is up now 00:58 <@01-MTF> wtf xD 00:58 i guess the connection issue is resolved so its no longer timing out 00:58 <@01-MTF> huh, I guess so 00:58 <@01-MTF> cool!!! 00:58 <@01-MTF> thanks for your magic touch πŸ˜› 00:58 hahaha you're welcome 00:59 hooray for stella 00:59 :> 00:59 gief all the head pats 01:00 * Umbire gives stella one (1) headpat 01:00 <@01-MTF> was trying to fix it all day, ofc stella would show up and fix it instantly 01:00 yey 01:00 lmao mtf 01:00 cool, rld's back? time to say rougelike 01:00 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 01:00 cathartes: XD 01:00 <@01-MTF> xD 01:03 @e?sea tortle 01:03 sea tortle (:) | Lvl: 2 | Diff: 3 | Spd: 5 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: dungeons | AC: 0 | Attacks: 1d6 weapon physical | Alignment: 3 | Flags: genocidable, omnivore, swims, amphibious, thick hide, infravisible 01:03 Can probably steal the hat if I can drop 'em 01:04 >early ring of conflict 01:06 Hm, egg that my dog didn't eat 01:11 -!- Sting has quit [Quit: Sting] 01:24 Got a tinning kit with opener so far, not much on the armor front though 01:24 Wow, very early oracle 01:34 <@01-MTF> oh I just got a message from my host 2hrs ago, they fixed it πŸ˜„ 01:34 <@01-MTF> nice 01:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Tou Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1484 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Knight (level 14), on T:21775 01:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1391 points, T:1635, killed by a gnome lord 01:40 wooooo 01:40 did you ever figure out what was the deal with all that docker shit tho? 01:44 <@01-MTF> no, I just killed the processes and disabled containerd on boot 01:45 <@01-MTF> will need to look further into it =/ seems like someone may have broken in 01:45 :E 01:46 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Tou Hum Fem Neu) tasted meat for first time, by eating a newt corpse, on T:3482 01:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4942 02:02 -!- wishstudio has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 02:02 -!- wishstudio has joined #hardfought 02:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] guest99987 (Ana Dro Fem Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1774 02:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 863 points, T:2824, killed by a boulder 02:05 [hdf-us] [ndnh] slarty (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:7306 02:06 yasi: make a rouge level where everything is red 02:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 4808 points, T:6544, killed by an owlbear 02:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] guest99987 (Ana Dro Fem Cha), 9472 points, T:1966, killed by a gnome 02:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Darothok (Val Hum Fem Law), 588 points, T:1837, killed by a werejackal 02:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 327 points, T:776, killed by a dart 02:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Cav Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1668 02:22 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (iridium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 02:23 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 02:25 -!- pescepalla has joined #hardfought 02:27 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 02:33 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Cav Gno Fem Neu), 4535 points, T:4559, killed by the Goblin King 02:33 caveman speed did fuck all for me 02:33 be nice if my pet hadn't died. oh well 02:37 -!- pescepalla has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:38 -!- pescepalla has joined #hardfought 02:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 479 points, T:2543, killed by a dwarf 02:38 next game, roll giant sam, dragonhide armor on DL2 02:38 lol 02:51 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Sam Gia Mal Law) killed the Goblin King, on T:2023 02:51 1-1, dickhead 02:54 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:55 -!- screamingskull has joined #hardfought 02:56 -!- screamingskull has quit [Client Quit] 02:57 -!- screamingskull has joined #hardfought 03:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 59 points, T:173, killed by a kobold, while praying 03:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3017 03:05 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Sam Gia Mal Law), 2994 points, T:3513, poisoned by a rabid rat 03:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 169 points, T:763, killed by a bolt of cold 03:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 70 points, T:261, killed by a fox 03:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Cav Dwa Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:3878 03:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a crude dagger on an altar, on T:3160 03:08 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 03:14 [hdf-us] [slshm] slarty (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 652 points, T:3913, killed by a rothe 03:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1015 points, T:2010, killed by a sea tortle, while sleeping 03:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a werewolf, on T:3728 03:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible VaderFLAG's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:11270 03:40 [hdf-us] [slshm] slarty (Ice Dop Mal Neu), 983 points, T:2016, killed by a water moccasin 03:43 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4723 03:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) destroyed davez's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:5169 03:47 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu) killed the Rat King, on T:12265 03:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 5018 points, T:5782, killed by a giant spider 03:49 [hdf-us] [slshm] slarty (Tou Dop Mal Neu), 195 points, T:953, killed by a water demon 03:50 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 13 points, T:263, killed by a bolt of cold 03:50 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:12503 03:53 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:5630 03:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] puncake (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 3381 points, T:4033, killed by a black pudding 03:59 killed a p. decently armored dwarf this time, let's see 04:02 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1259 points, T:2401, killed by a water demon, while dragging an iron ball 04:11 -!- screamingskull has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3272 04:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1915 points, T:3339, poisoned by a giant mosquito 04:23 -!- Semilg has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:24 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 104 points, T:748, killed by hallucinogen-distorted Mr. Ganden; the shopkeeper 04:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 4298 points, T:8504, killed by a gnome lord 04:27 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu) had 17 shuriken entrusted to her by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:14267 04:32 -!- screamingskull has joined #hardfought 04:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 27 points, T:102, killed by a goblin 04:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 0 points, T:6, killed by a sewer rat 04:45 [hdf-us] [slth] slarty (Con Ill Fem Cha), 67 points, T:286, killed by a rabbit, while dragging an iron ball 04:46 [hdf-eu] [xnh] breadmaster (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9375 05:05 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 05:10 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Inmate, on T:15525 05:16 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 05:19 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 05:19 -!- screamingskull has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu) destroyed the invisible lacca's ghost, the former Jail-bird, on T:16747 05:24 [hdf-us] [ndnh] Abdlabl (Ana Inc Fem Neu), 192 points, T:224, killed by a jackal 05:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:1479 05:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) wished for "Blessed Greased Fixed +3 Premium Heart", on T:749 05:30 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:33 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:35 [hdf-eu] [dnh] JackMallard (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 1044 points, T:1217, killed by a marid 05:36 [hdf-us] [evil] Storm (Mon Trt Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:18180 05:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2328 points, T:3328, killed by a giant bat 05:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:28218 05:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2938 06:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha), 8 points, T:175, killed by a goblin 06:03 [hdf-eu] [dnh] JackMallard (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 1921 points, T:1421, killed by a parrot 06:05 <@nabru> !ping 06:05 @nabru: Pong! 06:07 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Ran Orc Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:4921 06:13 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1492 06:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Cav Dwa Mal Law) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:6434 06:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:69750 06:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 11722 points, T:6556, killed by a leather golem, while reading a book 06:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] puncake (Bar Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4872 06:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] puncake (Bar Hum Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5948 06:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1507 06:39 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Ran Orc Mal Cha) destroyed lacca's ghost, the former Jail-bird, on T:5836 06:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Sam Hum Fem Law) bestowed with Snickersnee by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3643 06:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) completed Sokoban, on T:10070 06:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Sam Hum Fem Law), 7267 points, T:3925, killed by a plains centaur 06:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] puncake (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7241 07:02 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed the Lokoban Pinata, on T:4349 07:09 -!- wybpip[m] has joined #hardfought 07:09 -!- wybpip[m] has left #hardfought 07:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Mon Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:9523 07:14 -!- Umbire has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:14 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 8 points, T:157, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 07:14 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha) performed her first annihilation (orcs), on T:1 07:14 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 07:16 [hdf-eu] [slshm] hackemslashem (Bar Vam Mal Cha), 4522936 points, T:45589, ascended 07:16 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/h/hackemslashem/slashem/dumplog/1650187951.slashem.txt 07:18 congrats hackemslashem! 07:19 <@hackemslashem> Ty! That game was so sloggy, happy to be done with it! 07:19 gratz! 07:19 hackemslashem: pog 07:20 <@hackemslashem> Vampires are fun tho V_V 07:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the high priestess of Moloch, on T:69041 07:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:69043 07:26 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) killed Cerberus, on T:13872 07:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1790 07:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] JackMallard (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 51 points, T:714, killed by a fox, while fainted from lack of food 07:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 602 points, T:945, zombified by an orc zombie, while sleeping 07:33 [hdf-eu] [dnh] JackMallard (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 0 points, T:47, killed by a small cave lizard 07:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 3429 points, T:1999, killed by a land mine 07:34 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Bin Eth Fem Non) killed Sir Garland, on T:15845 07:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Mon Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:10233 07:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Mon Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:10260 07:35 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 07:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Mon Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Student of Winds (level 22), on T:69114 07:43 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Bin Eth Fem Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:16702 07:44 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of annihilation 07:47 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Bin Eth Fem Non) killed the Death Eye, on T:16947 07:47 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Trt Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:31918 07:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1903 points, T:3523, killed by a dwarf 07:54 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Bin Eth Fem Non) averted death, on T:17389 07:55 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Bin Eth Fem Non), 146654 points, T:17389, killed by brainlessness 07:55 rip 07:55 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2955 07:56 -!- Grassy has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:69239 08:02 [hdf-eu] [dnh] JackMallard (Nob Dro Mal Neu), 3814 points, T:2366, killed by a gnome 08:05 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 5261 points, T:4181, killed by a soldier ant 08:11 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:48419 08:12 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Hea Eth Fem Neu) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1022 08:13 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Trt Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:34027 08:18 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 492 points, T:1260, zombified by a hobbit zombie 08:18 -!- b93 has joined #hardfought 08:19 [hdf-us] [slth] PatchBurns1 (Jed Hum Mal Law), 16409 points, T:8061, killed by a baby green dragon 08:25 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:5728 08:27 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Anerag (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 142 points, T:633, killed by a gnome lord 08:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Ran Orc Mal Cha), 4173 points, T:4566, killed by an Elvenking 08:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 2809 points, T:2756, killed by a hill orc 08:42 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Nob Dwa Mal Law), 63734 points, T:11068, killed by a long worm 08:47 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 08:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Anerag (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2349 08:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2289 08:54 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Tou Hob Mal Neu), 885 points, T:1081, killed by an arrow 08:58 [hdf-eu] [evil] davez (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 786 points, T:2060, killed by a giant bat 09:03 [hdf-eu] [xnh] breadmaster (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:11494 09:05 [hdf-eu] [xnh] breadmaster (Val Dwa Fem Law), 36813 points, T:11513, killed by an ogre queen, while frozen by a potion 09:07 -!- 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[nh370] MoonPig (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1002 09:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Anerag (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:6362 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 876 points, T:2221, killed by a wand 09:32 [hdf-us] [evil] basilikos (Sam Hum Mal Law), 16130 points, T:6707, killed by a copper crossbow bolt 09:35 -!- Hekik has joined #hardfought 09:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Anerag (Mon Hum Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:6998 09:42 [hdf-us] [fh] goka (gokajern) (Arc Hum Mal Law), 22447 points, T:1873, killed by a gas cloud 09:43 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a bag of holding, on T:19672 09:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 170 points, T:1056, killed by a gecko 09:45 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Ran Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:24515 09:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Nob Dro Fem Cha), 45 points, T:19, slipped while mounting a saddled giant spider 09:50 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 210 points, T:845, killed by a mountain dwarf 09:50 wtf a saddled giant spider? 09:51 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) was given their Quest, on T:9012 09:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 16 points, T:162, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:51 drow elves use spiders as steeds 09:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:24128 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3433 09:52 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Elf Fem Cha), 95 points, T:119, slipped while mounting a saddled baby shimmering dragon 09:52 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Neu) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Odin, on T:20009 09:53 ok how do you get a saddle on a giant spider? 09:53 totally unrealistic 09:55 i know right? what do they think they're playing, some fantasy d&d based game or something? 09:55 smh 09:56 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:51314 09:56 that sounds fun 09:56 can we do that instead 09:57 no. nethack is SERIOUS BUSINESS 09:57 <@post163> !ping 09:57 @post163: Pong! 09:59 It's a specially made saddle for it. 10:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) destroyed MoonPig's ghost, the former Rogue, on T:3304 10:01 so you're telling me that somewhere there are dark elves crafting giant spider saddles 10:01 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:01 or do they contract that out? 10:02 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 4655 points, T:4889, killed by the Goblin King 10:02 prob a contract 10:03 wait til you see a drider 10:05 A friend of mine is one.. 10:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Ixoth, on T:24828 10:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) found the Magic Mirror of Merlin carried by a monster, on T:24828 10:07 <@disperse (he/him)> What are the specs of the hardfought servers and are there ever any performance issues due to concurrency? 10:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:24830 10:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Bin Orc Mal Non) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6203 10:08 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 10:08 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Kni Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2716 10:09 specs vary regionally 10:09 hdf us is 4 vcpus 8gb ram 10:10 <@disperse (he/him)> Are these EC2 servers? 10:10 yes 10:11 <@disperse (he/him)> OK, thanks, I'm wondering how ridiculously overspecced I was for the NetHackathon servers (one person playing NetHack at a time) 10:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Anerag (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8839 10:11 disperse you can see the server specs by pressing s at the dgl menu 10:11 what was specs on those and how many and how many regions? 10:12 <@disperse (he/him)> Oh, nice 10:12 for the hardfought servers 10:12 do it and see how scammed eu and au are compared to the us 10:12 :) 10:13 <@disperse (he/him)> I have t3.small instances for all three servers 10:13 <@disperse (he/him)> So 2 vCPU and 2 GB memory 10:14 if i were running nethack server it would be an arm instance cause im cheap 10:14 You lead poor Fant into your pit! 10:15 Oh come on, Fant's a gray dragon now, pits aren't a big deal. 10:15 <@disperse (he/him)> I'm going to look at alternatives because it is a pain having to decommission the servers between events, if it were cheap enough I could just leave it running year round. 10:16 thanks for running nethackathon. i enjoyed watching 10:16 <@disperse (he/him)> Thanks for watching! It's always a lot of fun, the hope is to automate sign-ups and make it just sort of run itself for the most part in the future. 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Kni Hum Fem Law) destroyed OpticSugar's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:3531 10:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Kni Hum Fem Law) found Sting on the floor, on T:3532 10:17 i am honoured that the bot has a !hothraxxa command now 10:17 that was hugely funny 10:18 <@disperse (he/him)> I had a follow up question about that actually, if, by the process of elimination, you know charging could be one of three scrolls you haven't found yet, could you just write all three by their FOO name? 10:18 afaik yes 10:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3627 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine (2nd time), on T:36397 10:19 yes you can write scrolls by label 10:19 <@disperse (he/him)> That's neat, I know there are games where I just couldn't find one or two scrolls I really needed. 10:19 what does !hothraxxa do? 10:19 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) murdered her faithful soldier ant, on T:10802 10:19 it responds with DAIYEN FOOLES 10:20 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:20 disperse there's more labels than scrolls though 10:20 not sure what happens if you write a scroll label that isn't real 10:20 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) killed the Abominable Snowman, on T:52245 10:21 darn that dev team, making life hard for all of us 10:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine (3rd time), on T:36419 10:21 it's obvious what happens. you write "amateurhour was here!" and the scroll vnaishes 10:21 i don't know how many charges that uses though 10:22 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 11793 points, T:11112, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while paralyzed by a monster 10:22 There is no such scroll! 10:22 in wizmode 10:22 hmmm. maybe i'm worng there. wiztesting... 10:22 oh beaten to it 10:22 hmm 10:23 well in that case the disperse strategy works 10:23 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Dro Nbn Cha), 0 points, T:1, zapped themself with a wand 10:23 maybe that was a typo, should try again 10:23 i am an acknowledged expert in typos. that was not a typo 10:25 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Famine (5th time), on T:36458 10:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by the high priest of Thoth), on T:36467 10:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Kni Hum Fem Law), 7379 points, T:4436, killed by a bolt of lightning 10:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Pestilence (10th time), on T:36479 10:33 well hell, there's no good reason to wear this dwarvish mithril any more 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2497006 points, T:36482, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/G/Grouchy/nethack/dumplog/1649945709.nh.html 10:34 interferes with spell casting, I have MC3 through this robe and a ring of protection, and already have AC -20 without it 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2743 10:38 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:2754 10:41 in xnh and 4k, the best armour for a spellcaster now is studded leather 10:41 well maybe that was always true 10:42 until you got dsm but you can't anymore in those variants 10:43 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) rejected atheism by offering a hill orc corpse on an altar of Moloch, on T:3479 10:45 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) made her first wish - "magic marker named Marker I", on T:53030 10:47 no dsm in xnh and 4k? whoa 10:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Sam Hum Fem Law), 24 points, T:30, burned by molten lava 10:49 no. you wear the scales and imbue your current armour 10:50 so a spellcaster wants studded leather 10:50 which variant is gonna be brave enough to delete dsm entirely 10:51 xnh and fourk? 10:51 and in evilhack now hothraxxa 10:51 oh right i forgot evilhack 10:51 you don't want studded leather, you want dragon scaled leather jacket 10:51 I mean just delete it, not add dtsund-dsm 10:51 I should give that a cha boost :) 10:51 wait xnh has dragon scaled leather jacket? 10:52 @disperse (he/him) you could have gotten by with a t3.micro 10:52 oh you mean it *can* have 10:52 yeah scales + regular leather jacket 10:53 maximum fashion 10:53 hdf-us is what it is because 1) it gets the most traffic and 2) website and some other stuff are on it as well, warrants a larger system 10:53 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Ran Gno Fem Neu), 2606 points, T:4778, quit 10:54 3) K2 loves america 10:54 <@disperse (he/him)> @K2 Thanks, I figured that the servers were only up for a couple weeks so I could splurge but I'm going to look into downgrading in the interim. 10:54 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 15 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:4184 10:54 you went with the default volume size? 10:55 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:13520, rt[7:48:56] 10:55 larger volume sizes can kill you cost wise 10:55 dammit quetz, i didn't need that 10:55 no water prayer for me :( 10:55 <@disperse (he/him)> Yeah, I have 64GB attached to each instance and probably only need a fraction of that 10:56 you could do something cursed like use FUSE to mount an s3 bucket for ur dumplogs etc 10:57 then cut down the size of the instance a lot 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 137 points, T:284, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 976 points, T:2695, killed by a giant bat 10:57 what amateurhour said 10:58 <@disperse (he/him)> My initial idea for save sharing was shared storage between the three instances and put the nethack playground directory there. But sharing storage across regions is a mess. 10:58 however, if you're only running that server for a couple weeks, the default volume size should have been more than sufficient 10:58 <@disperse (he/him)> Yeah, the logs will never be huge 10:58 yeah it is 10:58 <@disperse (he/him)> Even if we run this event for years I'd imagine the logs would be reasonable 10:59 the s3 buckets set up for each hdf server, they are each in the same region as the server they are tied to 10:59 hdf us disk is big 10:59 like 196G 10:59 demo when i first made hdf-us it was a 1TB volume 10:59 like on aws? jesus fuck 10:59 lol 10:59 a few months ago I shrunk down volume sizes for both eu and us 10:59 yeah 10:59 heh 10:59 fuck man 11:00 was using a good chunk of it 11:00 <@disperse (he/him)> Looks like we're using about 10GB out of 64GB on the eu and au servers. 11:00 ttyrecs are space hogs 11:00 now that i'm offloaded to s3, costs are WAY down 11:00 went from nearly $200 usd /month to less than 40 11:01 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Nbn Cha), 298 points, T:570, slain by a telamon 11:01 <@disperse (he/him)> Are ttyrecs part of nethack core or built into the servers separately? 11:01 dgl generates the ttyrec 11:01 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4574 11:01 nethack only makes the dumplog 11:02 <@disperse (he/him)> I need to look into installing dgl on the servers so we can have spectators, that would help the co-commentators for instance 11:02 and get you ttyrecs too 11:02 <@disperse (he/him)> Yeah, that would be fun 11:03 how do the players connect to play on the nethackathon servers? 11:03 <@disperse (he/him)> ssh 11:04 <@disperse (he/him)> It's just a simple bash script right now and some configuration 11:04 ah ok 11:04 <@disperse (he/him)> They all run nethack as a shared user so they have the same UID 11:04 oh gdamn... i just bit the inside of my mouth 11:04 owwww 11:04 dgl definitely has its ups and downs but is worth using for that if you dont feel like building something better 11:05 <@disperse (he/him)> Was it something I said K2? 11:05 hah 11:05 no i failed at chewing gum 11:05 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 299 points, T:851, taken down by a dwarvish wererat 11:05 <@disperse (he/him)> The current system feels really hacky but my plan b failed to progress quickly enough. 11:06 <@disperse (he/him)> Oh, which reminds me, is there a place for nethack dev discussion that isn't just creating an issue in github and having discussions there? 11:06 #nethack-dev 11:06 <@disperse (he/him)> Wot 11:06 there isnt any discord to irc bridge though 11:06 <@disperse (he/him)> Oh 11:07 <@disperse (he/him)> I was looking in my discord to see if I'd missed it all tis time 11:07 ah no, i'm referring to irc 11:07 <@disperse (he/him)> OK, I'll install weechat 11:08 your mileage will vary there fyi 11:08 depending on who you ask, the reply can be 'email the devteam' :) 11:09 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Vam Fem Cha), 287 points, T:988, cut down by a shadowy chicken 11:09 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of lightning 11:10 <@disperse (he/him)> I'm curious about the status of this goal of 3.7.0 development: Write game savefiles and bonesfiles in a more portable and consistent way to open up the possibility of utilizing them between different platforms, such as between your desktop computer and your hand-held device. 11:10 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Elf Nbn Neu), 124 points, T:267, killed by an arrow 11:11 speaking of which, how the fuck do you find anything on discord? 11:11 iirc nhmall had some good progress towards that but there was some reason it's done fully done yet 11:11 but I'm half remembering a conversation from ages ago 11:11 i tried finding the nethack community. not a chance in hell 11:12 did you join the roguelikes discord hothraxxa? there's a link to it 11:12 <@disperse (he/him)> You need an invite, which is just a URL, anyone currently in the roguelike-discord can generate one 11:12 you can find that invite link in ##nethack-variants 11:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed wand of death", on T:69979 11:12 in the topic 11:12 @disperse that could be either something fancy like json save files, or just something standard like "we standardize the size of all data members so that the memory dumped save files will be the same everywhere" 11:12 amateurhour: i did and saw no #nethack 11:12 <@disperse (he/him)> Here ya go: https://discord.gg/pw4QpDma 11:12 ty 11:13 @disperse, they already did that and then rolled it back 11:13 iirc, because it needed manual upkeep whenever a savable field was changed or added 11:13 <@disperse (he/him)> They rolled it back because of bugs or compatibility issues? 11:13 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Mer Mal Neu), 385 points, T:776, taken down by a hobgoblin 11:14 paxed: the commit says it was generated with ctags or something, right? 11:14 that does sound like a pain to maintain 11:14 i liked ais's idea of sqlite db saves :P 11:14 (not real) 11:14 [hdf-us] [xnh] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 16 points, T:48, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 11:14 well not just saves but also state 11:14 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Dwa Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by an acid stream 11:14 <@disperse (he/him)> What was the approach the dev team took? 11:14 it was not a real suggestion but a cool concept 11:15 disperse you could set something to decide whether savefiles were ascii, saved as individual struct fields, or full structs iirc 11:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed Pestilence, on T:69986 11:15 <@disperse (he/him)> sqlite isn't a terrible idea, you can just send the database as a file cross-platform. At least we do that from Linux -> Android for a work project. 11:15 it's still mentioned in the guidebook 11:15 and the code still reads the setting but just doesn't do anything with it 11:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed the saddled White Horse, on T:69988 11:17 disperse check out 7054e06 and bc8c1f8 11:17 <@disperse (he/him)> Thanks qt 11:18 <@disperse (he/him)> How crazy would it be to approach the problem with a event sourcing approach, store the initial seed and then record user input. 11:19 doesn't nh4 do something vaguely like that? the entire history of the game is in the savefile or something? 11:19 so i entered the captcha phrase and don't see any channels. 11:19 there's a jwz quote about regex that would sum that crazy well 11:20 <@disperse (he/him)> "Now you have two problems"? 11:20 yes 11:20 <@disperse (he/him)> lol 11:20 [hdf-us] [ndnh] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Inc Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:2391 11:21 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 707 points, T:1472, sent to the next life by a wallaby 11:21 [hdf-us] [ndnh] wintergalaxy88 (Wiz Inc Mal Cha), 15614 points, T:2438, killed by an Uruk-hai 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1858 11:23 (also, i don't really understand what's the need to save the whole input history?) 11:24 <@disperse (he/him)> Oh, the idea is you replay all the events to rebuild the game state. 11:24 yes, but why? 11:24 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Mer Mal Neu), 304 points, T:674, slaughtered by a telamon 11:25 <@disperse (he/him)> One possible advantage is when a player hits a game breaking bug you can easily reproduce it (and even fix the bug and the game can be continued where it was) 11:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class a), on T:2035 11:25 that would probably be even more incompatible between versions though, since even the rcfile could mean keys in the same order do different things 11:26 <@disperse (he/him)> Yeah, it would have to be more low-level than just the player hits the q key 11:26 nethack doesn't control space probes or medical software, so i don't really see the need 11:26 if a bug happens, no-one dies 11:27 speak for yourself 11:27 paxed: tell that to my valkyrie who died after kicking a door twice in a row :( 11:27 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:54247 11:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:5619 11:28 it'd probably be a right pain to implement and maybe extra dependencies wouldn't be ideal, but maybe adding a serialization library would work for portable saves 11:28 something like https://google.github.io/flatbuffers/ maybe 11:29 if it needs manual upkeep of the fields to be saved, it's a pita and won't get traction 11:30 it will fall flat, much like a pita 11:30 nice 11:31 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:6089 11:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Mal Law) put Death down for a little nap, on T:70056 11:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Mal Law) destroyed the Pale Horse, on T:70057 11:33 [hdf-us] [evil] basilikos (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1386 points, T:1826, killed by the Goblin King 11:33 starting a GoFundMe for a nethack-based space probe 11:34 <@disperse (he/him)> Does anyone know if NetHack ever made its way onto a NASA computer in space? I'd kind-of be surprised if it hasn't. 11:37 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 11:39 they only play ZAPM in space 11:40 <@disperse (he/him)> Nice, that's a new one to me 11:40 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Mal Law) was crowned "The Hand of Elbereth" by Quetzalcoatl, on T:13868, rt[8:34:43] 11:41 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of iron gauntlets entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:7281 11:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 5717 points, T:8138, killed by a rope golem 11:42 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Vam Nbn Cha), 469 points, T:883, cut down by a pig 11:43 it's on hardfought. it's a lot more primitive than nethack or other big roguelikes with years of development behind them though 11:44 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Neu) wished for "blessed fixed +2 dragonhide t-shirt of decay", on T:21962 11:44 it feels really clunky but it's pretty fun 11:44 yeah i've had fun with it too 11:44 <@disperse (he/him)> I'll check it out 11:45 space marine is probably easiest but if you scum for attack powers as psion they can be good too 11:46 i think it's not free software so that's probably a big reason it's stagnant, didn't the developer refuse to release the source because he said it was embarrassing? or am I thinking of something else 11:47 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Mal Law) killed Famine, on T:70107 11:47 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Mer Fem Neu), 523 points, T:1152, killed by a splash of acidic liquid 11:48 <@disperse (he/him)> What would loading a long-running saved game from character actions and random seed look like in terms of performance? You're not updating a display but I have no concept of how CPU intensive that would be. 11:48 probably similar to running the fuzzer i guess 11:48 <@disperse (he/him)> what's the fuzzer? 11:49 it's something that inputs a ton of random characters/commands to stress test the game basically 11:49 <@disperse (he/him)> Oh, nice, I found it on the wiki 11:49 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Inf Mal Cha), 126 points, T:115, offed by a hobbit 11:49 if you open up a debugger connected to nethack and run something like 'exp iflags.debug_fuzzer = 1' it will start running 11:50 <@disperse (he/him)> You're regenerating all the levels you've visited, so I guess it depends how intensive the level generation algorithms are. 11:50 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Fem Cha), 11 points, T:104, slipped while mounting a saddled baby red dragon 11:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] PatchBurns1 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3636 11:50 amateurhour: If you wanna be _brave_, take away the brazillions of free alignment points vanilla gives the player for killing monsters. 11:51 lol 11:51 You cannot imagine the whining. 11:51 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Sam Dwa Mal Law), 5268873 points, T:70121, ascended 11:51 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/m/mobileuser/evilhack/dumplog/1649611660.evil.html 11:51 hah! are you referring to me? 11:51 hothraxxa: No one in particular. Just everyone in general. 11:52 Well, everyone who actually _plays_ Fourk. 11:52 <@disperse (he/him)> gg mobileuser 11:52 so hothraxxa 11:52 :P 11:52 i did find a way to scum lawful alignment points 11:52 Hah. 11:52 congrats mobileuser \o/ 11:52 a lawful knight has a really hard road in fourk 11:52 congrats mobileuser 11:52 thanks! 11:53 my first "perfect alignment record" asc 11:53 jonadab: i unlocked two unimplemented roles, is that remembered somewhere? 11:53 Knight is one of the more difficult roles from an alignment perspective, yeah. (This is how it's meant to be, I think, but.) 11:53 mobileuser i think that's the first of anyone 11:54 i again want to emphasize i am not complaining 11:54 hothraxxa: Yes, but I don't know for sure if the server will remember that across versions. 11:54 that is impressive 11:54 Depends on how the server admin does things. 11:54 jonadab, i havent changed your implementation 11:54 Also, I need to get my act together RSN if Fourk is gonna be in June this year. 11:54 i've done all fourk roles now 11:55 Though if you've done all roles, it may be that my list of outstanding bugs has most of the major ones. 11:55 Possibly. 11:55 i hope my bug-finding was helpful 11:55 It is. 11:56 Still, I need to get on my game. 11:56 About fixing them. 11:56 K2 can u unlock all roles for me in fourk pls 11:56 the achievements_.dat file is static 11:56 i suppose i could copy those over to a new version install 11:56 assuming they are compat 11:56 K2: It's meant to remain compatible. 11:56 ok 11:56 ez pz then 11:57 So if it's in a version-agnostic place, new version should pick up and use old version's unlocks. 11:57 [hdf-us] [fh] goka (gokajern) (Arc Hum Mal Law), 27700 points, T:2730, killed by a giant beetle 11:57 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a giant turtle, on T:8639 11:57 For a normal non-dgl multi-user install, this would be a no-brainer. 11:57 i also wish to say once again that i really like fourk 11:57 But dgl potentially complicates things. 11:58 if there's a new save breaking version of fourk release in say what... 5 yrs from now? it'll be in its own subfolder. its trivial to copy over the achievement .dat files 11:58 Ok. 11:59 i just need to remember to do it :) 11:59 What to do about June and unlocks, assuming I can get some bugs fixed in time for that one of these years, is a separate question. 12:00 The lazy route is to just let it ride, even though it's not strictly fair to players who haven't played the variant before the tournament. 12:00 The draconian route is to wipe everyone's unlocks at the end of May. 12:00 hey 12:00 Hello hothraxxa, Welcome to #hardfought 12:00 The generous route is to give everyone who's in the tournament full unlocks when they sign up for the tournament. 12:00 hey 12:00 Hello hothraxxa, Welcome to #hardfought 12:01 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 12:01 and then take them away? 12:01 i say let them unlock stuff, it's not hard 12:01 The ideal thing is probably to move aside everyone's unlocks at the end of May and then _merge_ them back in at the end of June. 12:01 just make it more obvious what they have to do 12:01 But the lazy route is so much easier... 12:02 hothraxxa: It's obvious if you read the changelog, but. 12:02 Personally, I am fine with leaving the decision up to the server admins. 12:02 i still think some text in the char generation screen is all you need 12:02 [hdf-us] [evil] basilikos (Sam Hum Mal Law), 2784 points, T:3593, killed by the Goblin King 12:02 hothraxxa: Didn't I implement that yet? Thought I did. 12:02 or more properly, a lin k to an explanation 12:03 oh i wouldn't know. ahcievements unlocked! 12:03 That doesn't say _how_ to unlock stuff though, only that there are more unlockable roles. 12:03 giant in sokoban fix when 12:03 Well, it says how many more IIRC. 12:03 hothraxxa: $nextversion 12:03 jonadab i'm not changing anything. if players play fourk prior to june and they unlock things, great 12:04 if not, they can do it during junethack. incentive to play more 12:04 i carried a luckstone and i thought that would eliminate the luck penalties but it didn't seem to 12:04 K2: Ok. 12:04 That's simple enough, everyone will be able to understand what it means at least. 12:04 yup 12:04 They can whine about it, but whatever. 12:04 and that's no extra work for either me or you 12:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:4586 12:05 You can blame me (for implementing unlockables) and I can blame you (for deciding not to handle them specially for the tournament), and the complaints can go into the circular file. 12:05 Works for me. 12:05 the people who already play fourk outside of the tournament - if you 'wipe' their unlocked progress for june, you're going to upset most if not all of them 12:06 dont upset your core base that plays year round 12:06 imo 12:07 i for one will not be upset no matter what you do 12:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 85 points, T:466, burned by molten lava 12:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 2371 points, T:3935, killed by a baby owlbear 12:09 that's a broad statement hothraxxa. I appreciate your trust in me 12:10 * K2 starts to laugh evilly 12:10 'here, hold this signed blank check for me, ok?' :P 12:11 brb 12:13 * hothraxxa writes "hothraxxa was here!" and the cheque mysteriously vanishes 12:14 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 12:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6711 12:20 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby red dragon 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 12:21 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (hobbits), on T:1 12:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Wiz Hum Fem Cha), 607 points, T:1538, killed by an iguana 12:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:6180 12:27 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Mon Trt Fem Neu), 260710 points, T:35646, killed by Master Kaen, while moving through the air 12:32 -!- pescepalla has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:35 -!- pescepalla has joined #hardfought 12:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 41 points, T:509, killed by a bear trap 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] puncake (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 10242 points, T:8741, killed by a troll 12:45 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) had a dagger entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:9627 12:45 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Hea Eth Fem Neu) killed Kroo the Kobold King, on T:3274 12:52 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, shot herself with a death ray 12:54 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1218 12:55 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu), 1520 points, T:1245, quit 12:56 -!- pescepalla has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:56 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3034 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 703 points, T:1898, killed by a pony 12:59 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:00 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 13:03 -!- elenmirie has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] puncake (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 1338 points, T:2501, quit 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 1092 points, T:7420, quit 13:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha), 7 points, T:81, killed by a fox 13:08 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed the Necromancer, on T:15286 13:08 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una) had a staff of escape entrusted to him by Moloch, on T:12904 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] Gutso (Con Orc Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "hshs", on T:3235 13:11 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (basilisks), on T:54608 13:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] puncake (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 541 points, T:1512, killed by a dwarf lord 13:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Arasaka (Cav Dwa Fem Law) found Sting in a shop, on T:1071 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 298 points, T:1369, killed by Ms. Klodzko; the shopkeeper 13:24 -!- pescepalla has joined #hardfought 13:24 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) defeated the invisible Kathryn the Ice Queen, on T:55301 13:25 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Hea Eth Fem Neu) destroyed the Lokoban Pinata, on T:5440 13:27 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:24743 13:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 72998 points, T:14538, killed by an energy vortex 13:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Medusa, on T:30249 13:34 hmm 13:35 I just got this email 13:35 From: zahid wakiza 13:35 To: undisclosed-recipients: 13:35 Subject: am I safe? 13:35 I am attorney E. Zahid Wakiza, there is an important question, am I safe? 13:35 it's really hard to say if he is safe or not with the limited information I have 13:37 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) was given Staff of Necromancy, on T:16641 13:38 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) became the Whisperer of Este, on T:16680 13:47 qt, YOLO 13:50 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu), 2055 points, T:1305, killed by the Goblin King 13:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Bin Orc Mal Non), 15449 points, T:7718, quit 13:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) entered Gehennom, on T:31399 13:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 13:57 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 13:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Banneret (level 18), on T:31535 14:04 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:06 one word answer, "no" 14:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:2705 14:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1545 points, T:2974, poisoned by a killer bee 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3053 14:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Kni Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Chevalier (level 22), on T:32237 14:17 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 14:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2121 14:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2818 14:21 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Mal Una), 30334 points, T:15303, poisoned by a snake 14:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4113 14:23 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) killed Neferet the Green, on T:57482 14:23 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 14:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Sokoban amulet of reflection, on T:6432 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "3 holy charging", on T:6842 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy fixed greased bag of holding", on T:6842 14:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed genocide", on T:6874 14:29 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Neu) permanently converted to lawful, on T:57758 14:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] Trenin (Wiz Elf Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Ptah, on T:130128 14:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior (level 14), on T:7975 14:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:8333 14:35 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:19194 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) found the Orb of Fate on the floor, on T:9163 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:9170 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:9172 14:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy ring of teleport control", on T:9173 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Pri Cen Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1095 14:39 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:2151 14:41 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Pri Cen Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (goblins), on T:1127 14:43 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, acquiring a silver amulet of magic resistance, on T:10724 14:44 -!- pescepalla has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:44 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu), 19051 points, T:10962, killed by an owlbear, while hiding in his shell 14:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:10397 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "2 holy enchant armor", on T:10802 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:10902 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:10907 14:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed her first genocide (shocking spheres), on T:10920 14:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Orcus, on T:11141 14:50 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:51 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) became literate by reading a book, on T:3003 14:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "marker", on T:11295 14:51 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Bar Cen Fem Neu), 5800 points, T:2139, killed by a dwarf lord 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) genocided class L, on T:11320 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:11550 14:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:11555 14:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) performed the invocation, on T:11578 14:54 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Law) made her first artifact wish - "blessed fixed magic mirror of merlin", on T:58510 14:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 454 points, T:1266, killed by a small mimic 14:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] qt (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2947 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:11939 14:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:11943 14:57 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1377 points, T:2912, killed by a hill orc 14:57 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Pri Cen Mal Neu), 5023 points, T:2022, killed by a piranha, while being terrified of a ghost 15:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (2nd time), on T:12901 15:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) bribed Asmodeus with 69 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:12921 15:01 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 15:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Juiblex, on T:13083 15:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Arc Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:6886 15:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "3 cursed gain level", on T:13324 15:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Nob Hum Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 251 points, T:335, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:07 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Hea Eth Fem Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:7240 15:08 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Gia Mal Neu), 121 points, T:456, killed by a falling object 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:14846 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Earth, on T:14846 15:08 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Hea Eth Fem Neu) killed the Death Eye, on T:7291 15:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor (3rd time), on T:14851 15:08 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Mal Cha), 1407 points, T:2442, killed by a coyote, while frozen by a potion 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Air, on T:14962 15:09 K2: In any case, this is all supposing I can get enough of the outstanding bugs fixed in the next month (yikes) to feel comfortable having this version of Fourk in the tournament. 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy ring of levitation", on T:14967 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 99 points, T:194, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Fire, on T:15028 15:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Plane of Water, on T:15107 15:10 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Astral Plane, on T:15370 15:12 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Nbn Law), 262 points, T:385, offed by a gnome king 15:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Pestilence, on T:15408 15:14 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "holy fixed helmofoppositealignment", on T:15425 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Law) used a helm to turn chaotic, on T:15428 15:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] Luxidream (Val Dwa Fem Cha), 345106 points, T:15428, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/L/Luxidream/nethack/dumplog/1650478522.nh.html 15:14 <@Shadow_Rider> gg nice game 15:14 <@disperse (he/him)> Yeah, how fast was that? 15:14 <@Shadow_Rider> almost 1 hour exactly 15:14 <@Luxidream> 58:51 15:14 <@disperse (he/him)> Nice 15:14 <@Luxidream> think I've still got it 15:14 no spaces for extra speed 15:14 <@Shadow_Rider> asc run a little unfortunate lol 15:15 <@Luxidream> bad sanctum 15:15 <@Luxidream> i should have used cursed geno there too 15:15 <@Luxidream> ohwell 15:15 <@Shadow_Rider> trice corpse worth seemed like 15:15 <@Shadow_Rider> ya 15:16 <@disperse (he/him)> You ended with a spare wish? 15:16 <@Luxidream> yea I found sokowow 15:16 <@disperse (he/him)> Nice 15:16 <@Shadow_Rider> a few extra wishes 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 647 points, T:1677, killed by a giant bat 15:17 <@disperse (he/him)> I notice you didn't blow up your BoH on the Elemental Plane of Water 15:17 <@Luxidream> yea I did lose excal though 15:17 <@Luxidream> wonder where it went, did you see shadowrider? 15:17 <@disperse (he/him)> I missed that 15:17 jonadab its on the server and its been a part of junethack for a long time now, so unless you tell bhaak to not include fourk in junethack this year, it probably will be regardless of its current state 15:17 <@Shadow_Rider> i actually did not see that lol 15:18 <@disperse (he/him)> That explains why you were using attack wands on the cs 15:18 @luxidream congrats. kinda slow there but hey, asc is asc 15:18 <@Shadow_Rider> luckily its managable at that point 15:18 <@Luxidream> lol thanks K2 15:18 :P 15:18 <@Shadow_Rider> prolly dropped it on accident 15:19 <@Luxidream> also lost time having to run all the way back to mt for a pick 15:19 <@Luxidream> I wanted to save a wish but I think it ended up being not worth it 15:20 <@Shadow_Rider> It’s been a while :) 15:20 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 15:21 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Val Dwa Fem Law), 649 points, T:1584, killed by a piranha 15:22 [hdf-us] [slshm] disperse (Nec Vam Fem Cha), 1636 points, T:1203, killed by a pony 15:24 [hdf-eu] [nh370] peterg (Arc Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1405 15:24 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby green dragon 15:24 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:1941 15:25 [hdf-us] [slshm] post163 (Yeo Hob Mal Law), 11 points, T:112, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:25 [hdf-us] [slshm] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:17, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:27 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed the Oracle, on T:25273 15:27 [hdf-us] [slshm] disperse (Pri Dop Fem Cha), 12 points, T:72, killed by a fox 15:28 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 268 points, T:575, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 5399 points, T:4835, killed by a gargoyle 15:30 eyyy its a luxidream 15:30 oh not only a luxidream but a cheeky sub-1h 15:30 well done :) 15:31 heya stella 15:31 yo k2 15:32 what's shakin 15:32 nm u? 15:33 waiting for work to be done 15:33 <@FCpakalolo> just so you know, i'm hothraxxa using my discord id from my other life 15:33 smh noob 15:33 i finished my work HOURS ago 15:33 * K2 sobs 15:33 xD 15:34 there, there 15:34 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Hob Mal Neu), 226 points, T:1259, zombified by a kobold zombie 15:34 it's okay 15:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 3163 points, T:5167, killed by a magic missile 15:34 * stella hands k2 a tissue 15:34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA9RPbmiYME 15:35 nice one luxidream 15:35 @FCpakalolo prove it. say something only hothraxxa would know 15:36 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 325 points, T:226, killed by a dwarvish spear 15:36 <@FCpakalolo> historic uncursed thoroughly diluted unlabeled greased fixed very magic marker named for the great yendorian novel... nah i'll write some genocide scrolls 15:36 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Nbn Law), 5 points, T:29, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:36 'sorry' would have also been accepted 15:36 [hdf-us] [ndnh] post163 (Nob Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:36 <@FCpakalolo> haw haw 15:37 :P 15:37 hothraxxa, why 15:37 why have you abandoned us 15:37 <@FCpakalolo> i haven't! i've merged 15:37 have you fallen in with a bad crowd that thinks discord is 'cool' and 'fresh' 15:37 and 'swag' 15:37 don't listen to them 15:37 i hate discord i wont ever use it 15:37 <@FCpakalolo> defintiely no. i don't like discord 15:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 22 points, T:188, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:38 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:21663 15:38 --sent from my discord irc bridge 15:38 it causes nothing strife. their ill intentions are right there in the name 15:38 s/nothing/nothing but/ 15:38 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Nbn Cha), 79 points, T:314, slipped while mounting a saddled baby white dragon 15:39 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Mal Cha), 4 points, T:20, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:39 s/nothing but/nothing butt/ 15:39 ha ha 15:39 damn... nice one 15:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 15642 points, T:9331, killed by an owlbear 15:40 <@FCpakalolo> there's a gazillion people here 15:40 qt how do you notice some of these vanilla bugs? what possessed you to throw gold inside a purple worm? 15:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] peterg (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 4225 points, T:2252, killed by a rock piercer 15:42 we were talking about whether you could bribe the watch so i was looking at the code for throwing gold, i didn't notice it naturally in-game 15:42 oh right, lol 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Lord Surtur, on T:26183 15:44 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26186 15:46 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Croesus, on T:48495 15:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 7326 points, T:8587, killed by a giant ant 15:48 [hdf-us] [slshm] disperse (Pri Dop Fem Cha), 2429 points, T:3188, killed by a pony 15:52 [hdf-au] [nh370] Grasshopper (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided master mind flayers, on T:48606 15:54 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu) had 16 shuriken entrusted to him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:3742 15:56 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Elf Fem Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby silver dragon 15:56 [hdf-us] [slshm] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 40 points, T:85, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:57 [hdf-us] [slshm] post163 (Yeo Hum Mal Law), 45 points, T:69, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:57 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Neu) completed her quest without incident, on T:26399 15:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 26 points, T:136, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 15:59 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2155 16:01 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Neu) had a mithril dwarvish bearded axe entrusted to her by Odin, on T:26559 16:01 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a pair of cloth gauntlets of dexterity entrusted to him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:8001 16:02 [hdf-us] [slshm] disperse (Val Dop Fem Neu), 756 points, T:607, killed by a coyote 16:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1064 points, T:2315, killed by a large mimic 16:02 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu), 5852 points, T:4858, zombified by an orc zombie 16:06 [hdf-us] [slshm] disperse (Val Dop Fem Neu), 783 points, T:710, killed by a gnome lord 16:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] StubbyBeast (Mon Hum Fem Law), 861 points, T:1585, killed by a dwarf queen 16:10 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:22731 16:18 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the Platinum Dragon, on T:23226 16:18 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:60634 16:19 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Law) entered Gehennom, on T:60659 16:20 [hdf-us] [evil] StubbyBeast (Con Hum Mal Cha), 483 points, T:1219, dragged downstairs by an iron ball 16:23 [hdf-us] [slshm] disperse (Mon Dop Fem Law), 6154 points, T:1166, killed by a vampire 16:24 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: oh6] 16:25 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 16:25 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Hea Eth Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:10592 16:28 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled baby red dragon 16:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 54 points, T:304, killed by a fox 16:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Arc Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "blessed gray dragon scale mail", on T:2810 16:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:4725 16:34 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Tie-Dye Shirt of Shambhala", on T:24412 16:34 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Hea Eth Fem Neu) killed the Cyclops, on T:11139 16:38 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3790 16:38 -!- rld has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:39 [hdf-us] [evil] arnibald (Inf Gia Fem Una), 4702 points, T:3795, killed by a sewer rat, while being terrified of a ghost 16:39 -!- rld has joined #hardfought 16:39 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v rld] by ChanServ 16:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2131 points, T:5127, killed by an owlbear, while praying 16:45 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Mon Cen Fem Neu), 614 points, T:326, killed by the Goblin King 16:46 Returning to 0.8 on AU, remembered I have a magic lamp 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] falconfused (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed the Dark One, on T:31016 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] falconfused (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) found the Eye of the Aethiopica on the floor, on T:31017 16:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:3633 16:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] falconfused (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:31018 16:54 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Mon Elf Fem Cha), 201 points, T:559, killed by a flint stone 16:56 -!- winny has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:57 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Dra Dro Fem Cha) had Bat from Hell bestowed upon her by Lolth, on T:2511 16:57 -!- winny has joined #hardfought 17:00 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Hea Eth Fem Neu) destroyed Lich, the Fiend of Earth, on T:12772 17:01 [hdf-au] [evil] Umbire (Ran Orc Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6198 17:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Bar Orc Mal Cha) was given Atlantean Royal Sword, on T:5008 17:01 [hdf-us] [xnh] whatever (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 835 points, T:2409, killed by a small mimic 17:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:142 17:02 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Bar Dwa Mal Neu), 528 points, T:788, killed by the Goblin King 17:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] puncake (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 811 points, T:1528, killed by a pony 17:07 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Dra Dro Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3709 17:07 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:25354 17:07 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Hea Eth Fem Neu) killed Kary, the Fiend of Fire, on T:13884 17:09 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Inf Orc Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1709 17:09 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Dra Dro Fem Cha), 1232 points, T:3861, dispatched by a grizzly bear 17:10 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Hea Eth Fem Neu) killed Kraken, the Fiend of Water, on T:14165 17:11 amateurhour destroying all the Friends again :-( 17:11 haha 17:12 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Hea Eth Fem Neu) killed Tiamat, the Fiend of Wind, on T:14283 17:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Arc Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4112 17:14 [hdf-eu] [ndnh] amateurhour (Hea Eth Fem Neu) killed Garland, on T:14380 17:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3539 17:17 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 13620 points, T:5712, quit 17:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3556 17:19 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:21 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 8629 points, T:4547, killed by a panther 17:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 7 throwing stars on an altar, on T:3802 17:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] puncake (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 1448 points, T:2054, killed by a gnome, while sleeping 17:25 [hdf-us] [evil] ssnufd (Val Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:28372 17:31 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:4600 17:31 [hdf-eu] [slshm] HarmathZsolt (Tou Dop Mal Neu), 6630357 points, T:128747, ascended 17:31 https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/H/HarmathZsolt/slashem/dumplog/1631535529.slashem.txt 17:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 3141 points, T:4411, killed by a soldier ant 17:33 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had 19 shuriken entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:877 17:40 gg Hare 17:43 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Con Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:6443 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:3391 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1 17:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 20 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of earth 17:49 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3255 17:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 404 points, T:607, killed by the nurdglaw's ghost of nurdglaw 17:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 180 points, T:258, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:53 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Dro Fem Cha), 8 points, T:43, slipped while mounting a saddled baby white dragon 17:54 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Mal Cha), 6 points, T:13, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 17:56 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 18:03 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 18:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] post163 (Kni Inc Fem Law), 27 points, T:23, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 18:06 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Croesus, on T:28638 18:08 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 18:10 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the invisible Lady of Pain, on T:29020 18:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] wendel (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 1343 points, T:2637, killed by a magic missile 18:16 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:29412 18:18 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:5199 18:20 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:5908 18:20 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 18:23 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alvietron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 330 points, T:686, killed by Ms. Kars; the shopkeeper 18:30 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) had a staff of war entrusted to him by Huan Ti, on T:6894 18:33 interesting - this monk in xnh appears to have unlocked long sword despite me never getting an artifact one at any point 18:33 probably related to me crowning? 18:33 aosdict, you happen to know anything about this? 18:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a bolt of cold 18:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] desertgreg (Cav Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4381 18:37 you got crowned Umbire? 18:37 Yeah 18:37 doesn't that unlock long sword as long as you're not chaotic? 18:38 even if you don't get excalibur or whatever from it? 18:38 yes, but in my case I'm also a monk 18:38 neutral 18:38 i might be wrong about that, but i thought it applies even to monks and wizards 18:38 not a major bother or anything, just a curiosity 18:38 it seems to be the case 18:40 yeah 18:40 /* acquire Vorpal Blade's skill regardless of weapon or gift */ 18:40 unrestrict_weapon_skill(P_LONG_SWORD); 18:40 ^ for all neutrals regardless of class or whatever 18:40 similar thing for lawfuls 18:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alvietron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 449 points, T:1554, killed by a little dog 18:41 I see 18:41 aosdict, ignore above, questions answered 18:42 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 11678 points, T:7790, killed by a tiger 18:43 pretty sure hw ignored it anyways 18:44 *he 18:44 why is it called P_LONG_SWORD? what does the P stand for? 18:44 :P 18:44 its a tongue emoji 18:44 p[erhaps you may choose to use a] long sword? 18:44 :P_LONG_SWORD 18:44 lol 18:44 hehehe 18:45 its long sword skill 18:45 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:49 pskill, you mean? 18:52 i really am curious about what it stands for. prowess? power? purview? 18:53 professionalism level? 18:54 prowess probably makes the most sense but I wonder if that's really it 18:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Mon Hum Fem Neu) killed the invisible Wizard of Yendor (5th time), on T:70990 18:55 oh, or proficiency is a good one too 18:56 that seems potentially likely as well 18:56 yeah it's called proficiency in the guidebook so I guess that's it 18:56 another mystery solved, case closed 18:57 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Daemon, on T:31455 18:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) was given the Pen of the Void, on T:19486 18:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 4300 points, T:5771, killed by a rope golem, while dressing up 19:00 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu), 698 points, T:1489, killed by a wand, while moving through the air 19:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) averted death, on T:19638 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered the Elemental Planes, on T:71118 19:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Mon Hum Fem Neu) entered Plane of Earth, on T:71118 19:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Abdlabl (Bin Inc Fem Non) averted death, on T:19802 19:09 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu), 1231 points, T:1376, killed by the Goblin King 19:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] desertgreg (Cav Hum Mal Neu) destroyed OpticSugar's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:5775 19:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] desertgreg (Cav Hum Mal Neu), 6206 points, T:5796, killed by a panther 19:18 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:32075 19:19 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) performed the invocation, on T:32125 19:20 I was about to say proficiency upon reading the first bit of backscroll but then qt outsleuthed me 19:22 hi aos 19:22 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:32233 19:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) destroyed NetSysFire's ghost, the former Jail-bird, on T:3417 19:27 hi umbire, haven't seen you in a day or so. 19:27 there was something in the backscroll above but I ignored it 19:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Ran Hum Fem Cha) killed Scorpius, on T:29408 19:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Ran Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:29413 19:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1529 points, T:4459, killed by a rothe, while fainted from lack of food 19:28 Was here for a fair chunk of yesterday 19:29 lol aosdict 19:32 [hdf-us] [dnh] slapdashtrout (Mon Swn Fem Cha), 7466 points, T:4319, quit 19:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Mon Hum Fem Neu) found Demonbane carried by a monster, on T:71479 19:34 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered the Planes, on T:32901 19:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Mon Hum Fem Neu) made her first wish - "blessed potion of full healing", on T:71483 19:37 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (giant mimics), on T:2005 19:37 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:2013 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 774 points, T:2138, killed by the Goblin King 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Law) destroyed Kas, on T:62744 19:38 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 3 points, T:39, killed by a sewer rat 19:39 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed crystal ball", on T:33030 19:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] Dirge (Mon Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed potions of full healing", on T:71498 19:40 qt: i think i found a real bug this time 19:40 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Kni Hlf Fem Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:3964 19:40 what happened? 19:41 so i just wanted to wiztest the invisibility telepathy thing and noticed that after "There is already a game in progress under your name. Destroy old game? [yn] (n)" the screen is not cleared 19:41 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Famine, on T:33080 19:41 "Shall I pick character's race, role, gender and alignment for you? [ynaq] 19:41 By Stichting Mathematisch Centrum and M. Stephenson. 19:42 you have another game already in progress? 19:42 i get what you mean NetSysFire 19:42 yeah K2 is trying to confuse you! he doesnt want me bothering the dev team! 19:43 this is local correct? 19:43 [hdf-us] [evil] terrapin (Arc Dwa Mal Neu) killed the Goblin King, on T:4168 19:44 yup 19:44 so no worries about hdf being bugged 19:44 you prob have another game already going and forgot about it. i do this sometimes on my wizmode box 19:44 how would i be wizard on hdf anyways without bribing you with a woodchuck named carl anyways 19:44 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Elf-Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Death, on T:33144 19:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Alvietron (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1830 points, T:2662, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted orc zombie, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 19:44 K2: no i mean that the screen is not cleared in this case 19:45 K2: it's not that the message is printed at all 19:45 NetSysFire is saying the screen should be cleared before printing the "should i pick your race/role?" message 19:45 ah 19:45 it overlaps with the copyright message when it comes after the 'there is already a game in progress' message 19:45 exactly 19:46 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 6773726 points, T:33159, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/notdnethack/dumplog/1650413955.ndnh.txt 19:46 congrats malor 19:47 gg malor! 19:48 gg! 19:49 congrats! 19:49 how was Aryvelahr Kerym? 19:49 in its current state? 19:49 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:49 oh who cares 19:49 you were priest 19:49 <@malor> It's pretty good if you are also a priest πŸ™‚ 19:49 wooo @malor 19:50 qs still so good for priest 19:50 <@malor> I used it a lot as it illuminates a super big area which I enjoy. It was better than quicksilver against a lot of foes, so not worthless. 19:50 <@malor> quicksilver has been nerfed a few times, it wasn't auto-stomping everything any more. It was good, great early game. 19:50 <@malor> thanks 19:51 i mean qs gets TWO priest flat +dxlvl arti bonus dmgs 19:51 so its a lot better in general 19:51 <@malor> yeah, so you would think it would rock, but in my experience (just now) it was lackluster at best. The elf blade kept up with it most of the time. 19:51 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 26 crossbow bolts on an altar, on T:3378 19:51 <@malor> basically unless the creature had protection from slashing the elf blade was better. 19:52 12 mirrors is real great for priest 19:52 cause it also gets two of the priest arti dmg bonuses 19:52 <@malor> I didn't even look for those this time as I had 2 reasonable end-game weapons. 19:52 <@malor> when I do look I get stimied anyway πŸ™‚ 19:53 <@malor> honestly astral is getting too hard though. I don't know how you ascend without a really good dps weapon. 19:53 i play for the funny numbers 19:53 <@malor> basically you have to cheese wand of teleport and wage of sloth otherwise. 19:53 you need to be willing to dump more wages there 19:54 <@malor> Yeah, I always have a couple left, so that's an option. 19:54 <@malor> I didn't find the doll vendor this time, which was weird. It was just not there. 19:54 your insight must have been too low to see it 19:54 <@malor> I went back with a 39. 19:54 I like that astral is less of a formality now 19:54 and that you have to try 19:54 i dont know the range on the dolls 19:55 of potential insight needed 19:55 <@malor> the dolls are op. 19:55 i know kukers are insane 19:55 it is a very huge range for kuker 19:56 all those names in ndnh sound weird for me. are they from turkish or indian origin or something? 19:57 qt: i think the actual expected behavior would be to not overwrite the credits and instead append or something 20:00 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Kni Hlf Fem Law), 39118 points, T:7584, choked on a lembas wafer 20:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] wendel (Tou Hum Fem Neu) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3643 20:03 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Con Gno Mal Cha), 2 points, T:15, killed by a falling rock 20:03 i think the copyright message is printed by the windowport, and the 'game in progress' message is printed by getlock(unixunix.c), which is windowport-agnostic and looks like is designed to work even if the windowport hasn't initialized and it needs to handle input/output itself directly. so it may be that they wanted to keep it simple and plain rather than worrying about interfacing with the 20:03 windowport to clear the screen or move the cursor, especially since it's basically an error recovery thing that doesn't appear under normal circumstances 20:04 how does nethack handle stdout being full or whatever that concept is 20:04 you could email the devteam about it though. if you pop a cls() in there it will clear the copyright message before progressing further, but idk what effect it might have on other windowports 20:05 it will clear the copyright message with tty windowport i mean 20:05 Demo: idk I have heard of that, there's some device in modern linux that simulates it right? 20:06 i think i read some dumb blog post a couple weeks ago (maybe on hn?) that said all standard hello world programs were buggy because they didn't return with a nonzero exit code when stdout was full 20:07 There's the castle wand - got a magic mapping from castle throne 20:08 I saw some writeup for a ctf problem that used it to force synchronization in a multiprocess program to brute force some sort of key and its cool but I forgot the exact language used but you can fill something and force the program to block 20:09 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 379 points, T:1061, killed by a sewer rat 20:09 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Umbire (Mon Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "magic marker", on T:29006 20:10 [hdf-us] [evil] nabru (Mon Trt Fem Law), 3878 points, T:2466, quit 20:11 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a baby silver dragon, on T:5149 20:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] wendel (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4680 20:16 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:5774 20:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] rhys (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 173 points, T:771, choked on a tin of spinach 20:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed MoonPig's ghost, the former Field Worker, on T:3964 20:28 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Mon Trt Mal Neu), 13800 points, T:7115, killed by a system shock 20:32 lol qt invisibility is also an imaginary thing 20:34 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Ith Mal Una) killed the Goblin King, on T:1366 20:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) changed form for first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:4071 20:34 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Arc Hum Mal Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:23968, rt[13:20:24] 20:34 *facepalm* 20:34 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Tou Gno Mal Neu) destroyed post163's ghost, the former Gallant, on T:536 20:35 troll'd 20:35 keeps giving me useless artifact weapons 20:35 trollsbane is super useful in un 20:36 bhaak made it very useful and way more balanced 20:36 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Tou Gno Mal Neu) murdered his faithful newt, on T:643 20:36 yeah but i'm an arc and i have grayswandir and dragonbane 20:36 oh and excalibur 20:36 oh 20:36 and giantslayer and demonbane and something else i forget 20:37 giantslayer was a godsend literally though 20:37 i just happened to have it when i got drained down to 6 str by poisoned orc arrows 20:37 [hdf-us] [spl] zor (Tou Gno Mal Neu), 869 points, T:719, killed by a bear trap 20:38 wielding it and firing +2 darts was pretty effective at that stage 20:38 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Inf Ith Mal Una), 1432 points, T:1432, killed by a bugbear 20:39 anyway unnh dragonbane is super cool 20:41 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Tou Gno Mal Neu), 38 points, T:386, killed by a sewer rat 20:42 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Wiz Hob Fem Neu), 32 points, T:139, killed by a crossbow bolt 20:43 if I ever do a variant I'll probably make it a spear as well 20:43 gloves are a close second though 20:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Sokoban bag of holding, on T:10523 20:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) bestowed with Magicbane by Thoth, on T:10907 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] rhys (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2059 points, T:3670, killed by an Uruk-hai 20:50 Gonna wish up a bunch of silver shuriken most likely 20:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] wendel (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 4496 points, T:7295, killed by a killer bee 20:53 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Law) destroyed Vecna, on T:65185 20:56 [hdf-us] [evil] VaderFLAG (Wiz Trt Fem Law) genocided alhoons, on T:65206 20:59 [hdf-us] [evil] gpsalmoncannon (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 646 points, T:721, killed by the Goblin King 20:59 -!- Grassy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00 -!- Grasshopper has joined #hardfought 21:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) bestowed with Trollsbane by Thoth, on T:12190 21:01 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1639 21:02 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Sam Hum Nbn Law), 174 points, T:635, inhumed by a serval 21:08 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest4139 21:08 -!- Guest4139 has quit [Killed (molybdenum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 21:08 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 21:10 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Car Dro Fem Neu), 196 points, T:403, cut down by a serval 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed MoonPig's ghost, the former Student of Stones, on T:13083 21:12 Just remembered, can't specify silver anymore 21:12 piss 21:13 Doesn't mention changes to wishes for stackables either 21:14 Suppose that narrows it down then... 21:14 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Umbire (Mon Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 Hawaiian shirt", on T:29221 21:16 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Arc Hob Fem Law), 165 points, T:209, killed by an arrow 21:16 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 34 points, T:152, sent to the next life by a serval, while dragging an iron ball 21:17 can't specify silver *anymore*? are you hopping between variants or just playing xnh? 21:17 you've never been able to specify materials on wishes 21:17 Former 21:17 Haven't made the hop back to evil yet, though 21:18 carry on, then 21:19 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Ran Hum Fem Cha) had Werebane bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:35194 21:24 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 514 points, T:674, killed by a mountain dwarf 21:24 While I'm here though and off to hunt for the next WoW 21:25 Did you change the ability to wish for stacks of things in any way? 21:28 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) destroyed the Lokoban Pinata, on T:4597 21:29 [hdf-us] [spl] aximili (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed Orcus, on T:40724 21:30 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Con Dwa Mal Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3242 21:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:13950 21:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] Disruptor (Sam Hlf Mal Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:76566 21:36 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Con Dwa Mal Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon him by Tymora, on T:3967 21:38 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:1959 21:39 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Con Dwa Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:4665 21:44 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Con Dwa Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating an iguana corpse, on T:5065 21:48 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Con Dwa Mal Cha), 768 points, T:5213, brought low by a telamon 21:49 [hdf-eu] [xnh] Umbire (Mon Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:29589 21:49 [hdf-us] [evil] coplate (Wiz Gno Fem Cha), 8689 points, T:3205, killed by a piranha 21:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Ran Hum Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:37202 21:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] OpticSugar (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 5101 points, T:5319, killed by a wolf 21:58 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Pir Mer Mal Neu), 311 points, T:1230, slain by a jackal 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:14137 22:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a vampire lord, on T:14138 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] rhys (Tou Hum Fem Neu) murdered haku, her faithful kitten, on T:1275 22:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] rhys (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 342 points, T:1433, killed by a coyote 22:16 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Dra Dro Mal Cha), 997 points, T:2129, slaughtered by a dwarf 22:16 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) killed Cerberus, on T:9258 22:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:14574 22:22 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Car Vam Mal Cha) chose a runed dagger to be named "Sting", on T:580 22:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] zoya (Ran Hum Fem Cha) had Stormbringer bestowed upon her by Mars, on T:39420 22:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) made his first wish - "2 Blessed scrolls of charging", on T:14755 22:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "Blessed amulet of unnchanging", on T:14759 22:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) genocided class c, on T:14772 22:28 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Car Vam Mal Cha) murdered his faithful newt, on T:1224 22:29 -!- bugsniper has joined #hardfought 22:32 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Car Vam Mal Cha), 1150 points, T:1449, struck down by a gnome lord 22:32 [hdf-us] [evil] zor (Hea Elf Fem Neu), 114 points, T:332, killed by a fox 22:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "Amulet of unchanging", on T:14821 22:35 -!- Sgeo_ has joined #hardfought 22:36 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 Seven League Boots", on T:10937 22:39 -!- Sgeo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:43 -!- Grassy has joined #hardfought 22:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] WizzyTheWeird (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 159597 points, T:15393, killed while stuck in creature form 22:46 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 22:46 -!- Grasshopper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:47 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Acu Bat Fem Law) killed Amon, on T:582 22:53 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Bar Inf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2294 22:54 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Acu Bat Fem Law) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1826 22:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] PatchBurns1 (And-Ana And Mal Neu) consulted the oracle for the first time, on T:13845 23:01 [hdf-us] [ndnh] zor (Acu Bat Fem Law), 12257 points, T:4034, killed by a gnome king 23:16 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:25 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 23:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3014 points, T:4405, killed by a yeti 23:28 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (disenchanters), on T:2218 23:31 [hdf-us] [spl] disperse (Bar Inf Mal Cha), 18360 points, T:5313, overpowered by a brown moldier 23:34 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha) killed the Goblin King, on T:2697 23:37 [hdf-us] [evil] dgoddard (Mon Hum Mal Cha), 7023 points, T:3031, killed by a gnomish wizard 23:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] falconfused (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:33068 23:48 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) destroyed the Watchdog of the Boreal Valley, on T:13904 23:50 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Hdf-Nob Hlf Fem Law) destroyed the Bastard of the Boreal Valley, on T:14058 23:59 [hdf-us] [slth] danw (Wiz Dro Fem Cha), 1790 points, T:1249, quit