00:03 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Kni Cen Fem Cha), 406 points, T:393, killed by a mountain dwarf 00:07 [hdf-us] [nh4] OpticSugar (Val Hum Fem Law), 44491 points, T:6615, killed by a troll, while sleeping 00:13 [hdf-us] [fh] Terrapin (terrapin) (Mon Elf Mal Cha), 11039 points, T:251, quit 00:32 -!- sumi80m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:34 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 00:34 -!- sumi80m has joined #hardfought 00:38 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:40 [hdf-us] [evil] Demogorgon (Inf Ith Fem Una), 197 points, T:631, killed by a brown mold 00:42 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:43 [hdf-us] [evil] Demogorgon (Hea Cen Mal Neu), 65 points, T:324, killed by a poisonous corpse 01:14 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:25 [hdf-au] [nh370] Mishka (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:45017 01:38 -!- b93 has joined #hardfought 01:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 350 points, T:795, killed by a bat 02:01 -!- spicyCebolla has left #hardfought 02:27 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 02:34 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:41 -!- Sgeo_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:50 -!- pescepalla has joined #hardfought 02:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed lurchy's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:4844 03:02 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 03:05 -!- pescepalla has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu) performed his first genocide (class o), on T:5492 03:07 -!- pescepalla has joined #hardfought 03:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu) destroyed nurdglaw's ghost, the former Esquire, on T:5723 03:12 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 03:14 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:19 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:20 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu) stole 2033 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Gellivare's jewelers, on T:6936 03:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu) genocided class G, on T:7478 03:28 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 03:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 103 points, T:335, burned by a tower of flame 03:32 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu) murdered his faithful housecat, on T:8325 03:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Gia Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:27697 03:35 K2: this is strange - remember you restored me yesterday. Since then I replayed the castle level and saved again. Now I started up my game and it's restored me to the start of the castle level. Any idea what's going on? 03:35 it's like groundhog day all over again... 03:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:9042 03:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 6359 points, T:9377, killed by a soldier ant 03:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu) killed by a soldier ant, on T:9377 03:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) destroyed wbn's ghost, the former Lookout, on T:2253 03:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2691 03:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 3292 points, T:2750, killed by a soldier ant 03:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed by a soldier ant, on T:2750 03:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) wished for "blessed spellbook of identify", on T:30262 03:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 105 points, T:518, killed by a sewer rat 04:02 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:36565 04:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2691 04:18 -!- sumi80m has quit [Quit: KVIrc 5.0.1 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 04:19 -!- sumi80m has joined #hardfought 04:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 4479 points, T:4997, killed by a gold golem 04:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed by a gold golem, on T:4997 04:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Inc Mal Neu) killed Glasya, on T:51611 04:53 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Inc Mal Neu) killed Daemon, on T:51720 05:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:30725 05:09 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Frost Brand bestowed upon her by Set, on T:38234, rt[9:40:42] 05:13 [hdf-us] [nh343] JortsValjorts (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:36591 05:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Sorceress (level 18), on T:31159 05:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu) killed by a gnome lord, on T:1980 05:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 354 points, T:1980, killed by a gnome lord 05:31 [hdf-au] [nh370] wbn (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed by a dwarf zombie, on T:1149 05:32 [hdf-au] [nh370] wbn (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 1056 points, T:1149, killed by a dwarf zombie 05:33 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Blackmarket, on T:38992, rt[10:05:37] 05:37 -!- Sting has joined #hardfought 05:41 -!- Sting has quit [Client Quit] 05:43 -!- Sting has joined #hardfought 05:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Raider (level 14), on T:24903 05:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:25395 05:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 boots of speed", on T:25406 05:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Bar Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:25664 05:53 -!- Sting has quit [Quit: Sting] 05:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Inc Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53573 05:58 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Inc Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:53605 06:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Inc Mal Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:53686 06:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Inc Mal Neu) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:53882 06:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Gia Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (leprechauns), on T:30317 06:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Inc Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:54074 06:15 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) was chosen to steal souls for the Glory of Set, on T:40143, rt[10:47:00] 06:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1128 06:19 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:19 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Inc Mal Neu) destroyed Pestilence, on T:54227 06:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Inc Mal Neu) destroyed the invisible Famine, on T:54259 06:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:1898 06:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2232 06:23 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Inc Mal Neu) destroyed Death, on T:54284 06:24 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Tou Inc Mal Neu), 10282518 points, T:54300, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/dnethack/dumplog/1646082133.dnh.txt 06:24 <@malor> !streak malor 06:24 @malor: [hdf-us] malor Max[dnh]: 13 (2021-12-20 - 2022-03-02)(current). 06:24 <@malor> lucky 13. 06:26 grats :) 06:27 hey you did it 06:27 <@malor> thanks. That was a very odd game. I never found magic missile/cone of cold/fire ball until the game was essentially over so I was basically a pure melee incantifier 🙂 06:27 grats 06:27 <@malor> thanks. 06:27 are you the best dnh streaker now? 06:28 <@malor> I was before this. I have another 12 that doesn't show on the current scoredboard that I had back in January 2021 also. 06:28 <@malor> 11 was Tariru's best. 06:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2889 06:29 <@malor> And my current streak is the 36th best streak ever even including vanilla! https://nethackscoreboard.org/streaks.all.html 06:30 <@malor> Better than "Strollers" best streak 🙂 06:30 stroller certified noob 06:31 <@malor> yep, owned him 🙂 06:31 <@malor> pwned him. 06:32 only 633 ascensions in 1089 games, smh my head 06:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 5932 points, T:3939, killed by a killer bee 06:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed by a killer bee, on T:3939 06:34 <@malor> but what has he done lately I ask you? 06:34 nothing! 06:34 stopped playing after 3.4.3 got discontinued on NAO 06:35 i wonder if he knows he can play on hdf 06:35 <@malor> seems to be on hardfought, so someone should reach out to him 🙂 06:35 <@malor> ninja'd 😉 06:35 :D 06:35 <@malor> also tell them that I am calling his lame-streaking ability out :). That might tempt him to squash me 🙂 06:38 stenno: yea thats some shamefu lshit 06:38 gj malor 06:40 <@malor> I'm just going to leave my 13 there for a while and come in every few days and call out Stroller 🙂 06:41 lol 06:42 <@malor> I'll send him these videos to help his game improve: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfZOdo-yx_nZXC_zJ39CS7g 06:43 oh i didn't know that channel 06:43 that looks awesome 06:43 is that your channel @malor? 06:43 <@malor> it's interesting. I've checked out a few of them. He does a good job. 06:43 ew save scumming 06:43 <@malor> No, it isn't. I don't have one 🙂 And if I did it would be dNethack 🙂 06:43 sure lol 06:44 <@malor> he recommends against it, but just says it is useful for doing things like recording the videos he did. 06:44 oic 06:44 i wonder if 'explore mode speedrun' would be a valid category 06:44 i guess it would just devolve to startscum anyway lol 06:44 i mean getting two starting wows is better than one wow 06:45 lol probably yes 06:49 <@malor> marvin 67 wins, 4 losses. How was that possible? Did he have an alt account originally? Seems weird to ascend your first game basically. 06:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) averted death (petrified by a cockatrice), on T:42949 06:53 could also have played local first 06:54 fucking winscummer 06:54 makes me sick 06:54 * stella spits emphatically at the ground 06:55 <@malor> all of his games are in November with just a couple in December. So he must have had another account and/or local as it doesn't make sense to just play in TNNT (assuming that existed back then) and never other than that. 06:56 november before TNNT was devnull 06:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 6258 points, T:7994, killed by a soldier ant 06:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed by a soldier ant, on T:7994 06:57 indeed https://nethackscoreboard.org/players/m/marvin.nh.html is all server 'dev' = /dev/null nethack tournament 06:58 <@malor> pretty good tournament record nonetheless 🙂 06:59 * stella spits again at the ground, indicating what she thinks of this winscummer's so-called tournament record 07:00 (incidentally, Pinkbeast, could you link that forum thread with the epic winscumming debate?) 07:02 (nvm i think i found it) 07:03 <@malor> please link that here, I would enjoy checking that out. 07:03 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=14993&hilit=winscumming i found this but i think this isnt the original thing 07:04 i think this Aule character is the one with the most hilarious posts tho 07:04 <@malor> what is "MiBe"? 07:04 minotaur beserker 07:04 crawl's dorf valk 07:07 <@malor> I see. 07:07 its a crawl forum and debate but the principles of winscumming can equally be applied to nethack and variants 07:09 <@malor> probably the original tread? This was linked by Aule https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12936&p=181407&hilit=winscumming#p181407 07:10 ah yea this is probly it 07:11 -!- b93 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:12 wait this is barely a thread 07:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2653 07:12 <@malor> well, I guess I am not a winscummer since I have 95% of my games on "malor" and my percentage win rate on "malor" is better than the aggregate on my malor2/3/4/5/6. When the accounts were combined it sent my percentage down 🙂 07:12 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=14997 07:13 [hdf-au] [nh370] wbn (Ran Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2061 07:13 oh never mind that, this thread is comedy gold 07:13 if i've finally found the right threaed 07:14 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Djasinga on T:40908 07:16 [hdf-au] [nh370] wbn (Ran Elf Mal Cha) killed by a flint stone, on T:2210 07:16 [hdf-au] [nh370] wbn (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 2278 points, T:2210, killed by a flint stone 07:16 -!- wbn_ is now known as wbn 07:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 2773 points, T:3519, killed by an ape 07:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed by an ape, on T:3519 07:17 yea this is the actual thread lol 07:20 <@hackemslashem> As a musician i now feel guilty for practicing, since it's it performance-scumming 07:21 X'D 07:21 all live performances should be your true untrained ability 07:21 [hdf-au] [4k] Eri (wbn) (Bar Hum Mal Law) unlocked the Ranger role by using stairs, on T:188 07:21 otherwise how do we know your real (lack of) skill 07:22 elenmirie your game had crashed, I saw the coredump and the level files. i recovered it 07:22 <@malor> Dave Grohl says that when they do their recording they do 1 or 2 takes and that's it. So he doesn't win-scum he just wins. 07:23 K2: thanks I must have left it open and it crashed on autosave or something 07:23 <@malor> @K2 did you see I hit 13-streak? Yes, I'm going to be bragging a bit today 🙂 07:23 lmao malor 07:23 I saved it again and pretty sure it did not crash 07:23 grats malor! 07:24 <@hackemslashem> Malor i think you've earned it lol 07:24 <@hackemslashem> I don't know the relative difficulty of ndnh though, but still sounds really hard 07:24 <@malor> thanks. 07:25 yay \o/ 07:25 <@malor> "dnh". Ndhn is actually MORE difficult in my opinion despite getting a minimum of 5 wishes from the castle instead of a max of 3. 07:26 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism by consulting with the centaurian priest of Camaxtli, on T:3445 07:28 <@hackemslashem> Oh lol dnh, but you also are leading streaks on ndnh i see 07:28 ndnh is not dNetHack 07:28 [hdf-au] [4k] Eri (wbn) (Bar Hum Mal Law) became pious, on T:475 07:31 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:42104 07:31 <@malor> Yeah I have tried to streak Ndnh also but early game death in Ndnh is much more common so I get 1 or 2 in a row and then die. 07:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:44784 07:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:44801 07:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Trollsbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:8732 07:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 3248 points, T:788, killed by an arrow 07:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1245 07:45 [hdf-au] [4k] Eri (wbn) (Bar Hum Mal Law) unlocked the Rogue role by entering a leprechaun hall, on T:1576 07:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 1336 points, T:1603, killed by a kitten 07:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed by a kitten, on T:1603 07:47 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 07:47 -!- rebatela has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Thoth Amon, on T:27839 07:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Bar Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:27840 07:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 462 points, T:1692, killed by a rothe 07:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed by a rothe, on T:1692 07:52 [hdf-eu] [evil] mightyquinn (Arc Hum Mal Law), 4098 points, T:5089, poisoned by an orcish arrow 07:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:2239 07:55 [hdf-au] [4k] Eri (wbn) (Bar Hum Mal Law), 7122 points, T:2038, killed by a yeti 07:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Bar Orc Fem Cha) wished for "blessed greased fixed +2 gauntlets of power", on T:28306 07:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 549 points, T:3062, killed by a giant bat 07:57 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed by a giant bat, on T:3062 07:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:28462 08:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1196 08:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2312 points, T:1423, killed by a straw golem 08:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed by a straw golem, on T:1423 08:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4062 08:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) destroyed wbn's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:4274 08:09 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) destroyed lurchy's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:9612 08:10 morning 08:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1586 08:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 3985 points, T:4869, killed by a gnome 08:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed by a gnome, on T:4869 08:14 afternoon 08:15 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 08:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 2051 points, T:2461, killed by a rothe 08:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed by a rothe, on T:2461 08:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] hjr (Val Dwa Fem Law) murdered her faithful little dog, on T:1464 08:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:1595 08:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 593 points, T:1350, killed by a gnome lord 08:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed by a gnome lord, on T:1350 08:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Kni Hum Mal Law) destroyed Hill's ghost, the former Sightseer, on T:4890 08:27 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 365 points, T:963, killed by a bat 08:31 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Sheol, on T:44100, rt[12:44:05] 08:34 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 08:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:4021 08:43 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Dragon Caves, on T:44430, rt[12:56:17] 08:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:11975 08:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5966 08:50 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Hea Mer Mal Neu) was sent an ice elemental by Hermes, on T:11425 08:54 [hdf-us] [fh] fdl (post163) (Kni Hum Fem Law), 18763 points, T:193, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) destroyed wbn's ghost, the former Kunoichi, on T:6647 09:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:7733 09:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Hill (Pri Elf Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:20449 09:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] hjr (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5873 09:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 355 points, T:996, killed by a giant rat 09:08 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 1056414 points, T:47266, incinerated in molten lava by a salamander 09:09 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law), 12658 points, T:9237, killed by a Green-elf 09:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Arc Dwa Fem Law) killed by a Green-elf, on T:9237 09:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] hjr (Val Dwa Fem Law) stole 235 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Lechaim's hardware store, on T:6079 09:24 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Orc Nbn Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by an unsuccessful polymorph 09:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1414 points, T:2268, killed by a gnome queen 09:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] mmj (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed by a gnome queen, on T:2268 09:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Kni Hum Mal Law), 3311 points, T:7394, killed by a pony 09:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Kni Hum Mal Law) killed by a pony, on T:7394 09:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 239 points, T:559, killed by a hobbit 09:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 0 points, T:4, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 520 points, T:1284, killed by a python 09:40 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Inf Mal Cha), 186 points, T:258, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] MoonPig (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed by a python, on T:1284 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (elves), on T:1 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] wendel (Tou Hum Fem Neu) killed by a giant bat, on T:1662 09:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] wendel (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 441 points, T:1662, killed by a giant bat 09:42 <@nabru> Hm, why is Beholder giving death messages twice? 09:43 That's specifically for 3.7 too 09:43 hm 09:43 Might be a livelogging goof 09:45 [hdf-eu] [evil] mobileuser (Mon Gia Fem Cha) killed Croesus, on T:31861 09:46 stella: your bot doesn't work 09:48 which bot 09:49 beholder 09:50 since when is beholder my responsibility 0.o 09:51 that's not her bot 09:51 indeed, as bhaak said 09:51 for some reason i thought you were are a maintainer 09:52 i made the mistake of accepting a call to help with some python2->python3 porting efforts 09:52 please don't let this haunt me forever 09:52 lol ok 09:53 mitgehangen mitgefangen as we say here 09:53 mitwas 09:53 mitwem 09:53 erkläre bitter was du meinst 09:53 oh its the other way around 'mitgefangen, mitgehangen' 09:54 programming is like sex. one mistake and you have to support it for life 09:54 o 09:54 you made the mistake of contributing :) 09:54 lmao 09:54 oof bhaak 09:54 bhaak: i live with this every day :C 09:54 wait you have a kid? 09:54 at least my son sends me a birthday card once in a while 09:55 why didn't i know this??? 09:55 beholder doesn't send me sHIT 09:55 are you joking 09:55 ah 09:55 haha i had u going 09:55 XD 09:55 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Pir Hum Mal Neu), 836027 points, T:28765, killed by an Angband orc 09:55 shit 09:55 hmm :/ 09:55 I suppose it's a livelogging and xlogfile issue. the wording is different, so probably two sources. there are only 2 possible sources, the xlogfile and the livelog 09:56 i assume getting killed is (now?) a livelog event? 09:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 0 points, T:1, killed by a scroll of genocide 09:56 likely 09:56 so it would write the livelog and also the 'normal' death message from xlog 09:56 hrm im not so sure 09:56 i havent looked closely enough at it but it is equally plausible that if you die you only get xlog and no livelog 09:57 only happens for 3.7.0 09:57 in fact i doubt that would generate two eveents 09:57 ok rewind 09:57 whats the observable to this issue 09:58 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/0ac3b08825a650cbd8ce751bdc6812e43a30abf5 09:58 two days ago 09:59 thatis a commit 09:59 not an observable symptom 10:00 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (arch-liches), on T:46643, rt[14:12:54] 10:00 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) genocided master liches, on T:46644, rt[14:13:00] 10:00 the observable symptom is that for 3.7.0, beholder announces both a 'death' livelog event and also the new entry in xlogfile 10:00 huh 10:00 thats weird 10:01 lets see what the current version is 10:01 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Vlad's tower, on T:46682, rt[14:13:57] 10:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Sam Hum Fem Law), 9635 points, T:5295, quit 10:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] stenno (Sam Hum Fem Law) quit, on T:5295 10:02 hmm 10:02 (3214c02c36e7653d92696a1813e68efb70587e3e,branch:master). 10:02 so initial hunch is that absidx is to blame somehow 10:03 last build march 1 10:04 -!- sumi80m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:04 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/0ac3b08825a650cbd8ce751bdc6812e43a30abf5#diff-b2ff387d32294b3e3912bed15460fe591e119172f81e9a854bb6473a692e8f43R1397 10:05 also see the removal of this comment 10:05 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/0ac3b08825a650cbd8ce751bdc6812e43a30abf5#diff-b5acdbeb74888f5f6656367b15952422eb87a9218f13c444d332ffde29ef2303L2288 10:05 -!- sumi80m has joined #hardfought 10:05 so could actually be a source bug, hmm 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:1 10:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 20 points, T:1, caught herself in her own ball of lightning 10:05 would have to dive more into this 10:05 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Vlad the Impaler, on T:46894 10:06 stenno: can you give me an example livelog 10:06 for when thi happene 10:07 not sure what you mean 10:07 oh hm 10:07 huh 10:07 sec, livelog on hdf is public 10:09 the latest vanilla commit for 370-hdf is commit 473ae4a 10:09 damn where is the livelog 10:09 stenno: an example of the exact livelog message triggered by this bug 10:10 K2: the offending line was before that, so its on hdf 10:10 offending commit 10:10 stella: i am looking for the livelogs but can't find them lol 10:10 but it looks like its affecting placeholder achievements 10:10 stenno: https://www.hardfought.org/xlogfiles/nethack 10:10 ty bhaak 10:11 im loving the post representation 10:11 * stenno waits a few moments to let this file load.. 10:11 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed Baalzebub, on T:47159 10:11 lltype=32 name=post163 role=Wiz race=Hum gender=Fem align=Neu turns=1 starttime=1646233528 curtime=1646233530 message=killed for the first time 10:11 lltype=2 name=post163 role=Wiz race=Elf gender=Mal align=Cha turns=1 starttime=1646232044 curtime=1646232968 message=killed by a scroll of genocide 10:12 lltype=32 name=MoonPig role=Rog race=Hum gender=Fem align=Cha turns=165 starttime=1646231661 curtime=1646231709 message=killed for the first time 10:12 lltype=2 name=MoonPig role=Rog race=Hum gender=Fem align=Cha turns=559 starttime=1646231517 curtime=1646231660 message=killed by a hobbit 10:12 i suspect these are examples of the thing 10:12 lltype=2 name=MoonPig role=Rog race=Hum gender=Fem align=Cha turns=559 starttime=1646231517 curtime=1646231660 message=killed by a hobbit 10:12 yes 10:13 will want to check whether the llthype=32 entries are really lifesaves 10:13 beholder assumes that deaths don't get livelogged,so.. 10:13 so its a beholder bug after all 10:13 judging by vanilla comments livelogs shoudln't happen when the game is over 10:13 well they shou,d 10:13 check the commit 10:13 the comment got removed 10:14 deaths were never livelogged previously 10:14 before that commit, any livelog events on death were silenced 10:14 yeah 10:14 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 10:15 this feels as if it can have unforseen side effects lol 10:15 why was that comment there in the first place? 10:16 /* avoid livelog for achievements recorded during final disclosure: 10:16 nudist and blind-from-birth; also ascension which is suppressed 10:16 by this gets logged separately in really_done() */ 10:16 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 10:16 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/0ac3b08825a650cbd8ce751bdc6812e43a30abf5 <-- this commit i think 10:16 K2: its this https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/0ac3b08825a650cbd8ce751bdc6812e43a30abf5 10:17 yes 10:17 as i said several times already lol 10:17 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Hea Mer Mal Neu) had Shamblestick bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:12383 10:17 hey i'm working at same time, get offa me 10:17 :P 10:18 how dare you not giving me your unrivaled attention 10:18 full attention* 10:18 K2: outrageous behaviour 10:18 smh my head 10:18 stenno is a high-maintenance bughunter okay 10:18 * K2 sobs 10:18 pay his retainer 10:18 pls 10:18 and provide sushi 10:18 and masseusses 10:18 last time i ate sushi it wasn't good for my stomach 10:18 oof 10:18 ok no sushi 10:19 could maybe comment out this - https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/0ac3b08825a650cbd8ce751bdc6812e43a30abf5#diff-b2ff387d32294b3e3912bed15460fe591e119172f81e9a854bb6473a692e8f43R1394 10:19 or just not read from xlog anymore 10:20 saw no 'on dungeone level ' in the example livelogs 10:20 hrm 10:21 I know Tangles prefers to adjust the bot around whatever vanilla already does, so most likely we'd adjust the bot to not process deaths from the xlogfile for 370-hdf 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] desertgreg (Cav Hum Mal Law) wished for "magic marker", on T:49340 10:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] omghax (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:25, killed by a falling object 10:24 i think its really_done(int how) in end.c 10:24 so... 10:24 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:25 vanilla livelogging isnt livelogged all death scenarios 10:25 line 1426 10:25 1400 10:25 ascending is handled in really_done 10:25 so it wouldn't write livelog for that? 10:25 an oversight? 10:26 looks like it handles more than just ascending 10:26 maybe some time-related silliness 10:26 like 'killed by a died' 10:29 if im right this bug will not present with OPTIONS=!bones 10:30 but i still haven't addressed the 'killed for the first time' livelog, which could be legit lifesave but 10:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2845 10:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 0 points, T:1, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Rog Hum Mal Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1343 10:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Rog Hum Mal Cha) destroyed MoonPig's ghost, the former Footpad, on T:2083 11:00 -!- oh7 has joined #hardfought 11:00 [hdf-us] [4k] hothraxxa (Bar Orc Fem Cha) defeated Thoth Amon, on T:33345 11:01 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:01 -!- oh7 is now known as oh6 11:02 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 11:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Bar Orc Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:29939 11:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Rog Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:3349 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Grouchy (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:14107 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 3469 points, T:3659, killed by a giant spider 11:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) killed by a giant spider, on T:3659 11:25 this is interesting 11:26 i got an email from someone with lines like this: [A screenshot of a computer Description automatically generated with medium confidence] 11:26 (in the plain text version of the email) 11:27 so I guess they are using some kind of AI to generate automatic descriptions of any inline images in the HTML version of the email? 11:27 and it inserts them into the plain text version? that's kind of cool 11:27 however, it thinks the company logo in the guy's signature is "[Graphical user interface Description automatically generated with medium confidence]" 11:29