00:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] otc (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 8590 points, T:6749, killed by an elf zombie, while praying 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu) averted death (killed by a rope golem), on T:3356 00:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1364 points, T:3362, killed by a rope golem 00:16 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:17 [hdf-au] [nh370] Mishka (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Bigroom, on T:27191 00:20 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:46650 00:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] yoyodyne (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) destroyed the Arsenal, on T:8264 00:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 757 points, T:2069, killed by an imp 00:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 70 points, T:242, killed by boiling potions 00:40 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Inc Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:47544 00:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed the invisible Asmodeus, on T:47848 00:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 139 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:47908 00:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] yoyodyne (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) was given their Quest, on T:9627 00:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 1064 points, T:2553, killed by a bolt of cold, while sleeping 00:59 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] yoyodyne (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed Durin's Bane, on T:10448 01:04 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:09 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Inc Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:47654 01:11 [hdf-us] [dnh] yoyodyne (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 aegis", on T:11071 01:16 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Inc Mal Neu) killed the elder priest of Moloch, on T:47714 01:20 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Inc Mal Neu) killed Baphomet, on T:47767 01:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:50992 01:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:51103 01:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:51111 01:29 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] KrO2 (Brd Inc Mal Neu), 198211 points, T:48111, killed by touching The Iconoclast 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Filcher (level 22), on T:51445 01:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Rog Hum Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magswoman (level 26), on T:51448 01:44 [hdf-us] [dnh] yoyodyne (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed the high shaman of Moloch, on T:14946 01:48 [hdf-us] [dnh] yoyodyne (Dnb-Nob Dwa Mal Law) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:15232 02:01 -!- spicyCebolla has left #hardfought 02:03 <@Umbyre (he/him)> whee, quest portal in the big room 02:06 -!- bugsniper has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 02:18 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: sleep] 02:21 https://twitter.com/ZenoRogue/status/1495901222284537858 02:24 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:25 -!- pescepalla has joined #hardfought 02:32 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:39 -!- pescepalla has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 02:41 -!- pescepalla has joined #hardfought 02:43 wow, spell of sleep nerf 02:43 from level 1 -> level 4 02:44 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:44 already changed, it'll be 3 02:44 will this affect monks? 02:44 since they can start with sleep 02:45 drop it? 02:45 changed to start with confuse monster 02:45 ah ok 02:45 never used confuse monster 02:45 but wont be using sleep any time soon :P 02:49 [hdf-us] [nh343] smzp (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 847 points, T:1057, killed by a boulder 02:51 it was silly that a touch-based confuse monster was higher level than sleep ray 02:51 yeah 02:51 agreed 02:51 what does confuse monster actually do? 02:51 prevent casting? 02:52 also confuse monster fits well with monk fighting style 02:52 I have to try it out 02:52 but sleep is probably in the "no use" book for me now 02:52 because of the high level 02:52 like on a wizard it is better to just use magic missile 02:53 so it seems orc shamans can still spellcast when confused (air crackles, points at you and curses) 02:56 <@hackemslashem> Level 4 for sleep did seem really high. How much would level 3 cost? Around 16pw? 02:58 for me it makes the spell a no go for many roles that are a bit worse on casting and on wizard you want attack spells any way 02:58 I dunno, will give it a go on next casters I get any way since it's not like DCSS where you have limited spell slots :D 02:58 also need to experiment with confuse monster 02:59 (except for teh initial 2min experimenting with a starting monk in wizmode vs an orc shaman) 02:59 <@hackemslashem> Ok, it's 5x spelllevel - unless carrying the "oY 03:01 <@hackemslashem> Sleep has really carried a lot of my monks in the past - it will be interesting to see what it's like without that 03:02 <@hackemslashem> Ohh, I didn't know the hunger scaled too: "Casting any spell other than detect food[10] uses nutrition equal to two times the energy cost (including the Amulet penalty), which means that it is usually 10 times the spell's level." 03:02 <@hackemslashem> That's why teleporting always make me hungry... 03:03 <@hackemslashem> It's a level 6 spell so costs 60 nutrition! 03:13 [hdf-us] [nh343] smzp (Mon Hum Mal Neu) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:3065 03:16 [hdf-us] [nh343] smzp (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 15680 points, T:3248, killed by a flesh golem 03:17 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 03:22 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:49 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 03:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hackemslashem (Cav Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed amulet of flying", on T:18805 03:53 monks can start with a spell they can't cast for ages now (level 4 sleep instead of level 1) 03:54 in vanilla? 03:56 -!- Sting has joined #hardfought 03:57 oh I read the irclog now 03:58 oh good point, I should check irclog too 04:00 -!- Sting has quit [Client Quit] 04:00 bleh confuse monster :P 04:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] elenmirie (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Thoth, on T:19711 04:37 <@Umbyre (he/him)> Sleep was honestly pretty overpowered for a level 1 spell, I just took out a couple of dragons with it 04:37 <@Umbyre (he/him)> then I proceeded to lose half my un-ID'd scrolls and books to a missed input but hey that's Healer quest for you :^) 04:40 <@Umbyre (he/him)> Anyway probably not coming back to that for a few days minimum 04:47 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hackemslashem (Cav Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:19981 04:48 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 04:49 <@Umbyre (he/him)> Best of luck finishing this out, I'm sure you can do it 04:50 <@Umbyre (he/him)> I might fiddle with some lesser-tried variants 04:51 ooh one thing that would be nice is if you always start with at least 5 max mana on all caster roles 04:51 priests can start with nothing but level 3 spells 04:52 yeah 04:52 (I am mostly thinking healer when I wrote that) 04:52 <@Umbyre (he/him)> yeah that was always an odd thing about priests 04:54 <@Umbyre (he/him)> but on the other hand, identify spellbook starts 👀 04:55 the chargeable ring thing is pretty neat 04:55 <@Umbyre (he/him)> What was changed about that? 04:55 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/ef6a88e1e10287c7e09fb8f7f5cf97bc877103d2 04:56 <@Umbyre (he/him)> hilarious 05:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hackemslashem (Cav Hum Mal Neu) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:20945 05:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hackemslashem (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:20947 05:05 [hdf-au] [nh370] Mishka (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Swashbuckler (level 18), on T:32200 05:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hackemslashem (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:21226 05:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hackemslashem (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired the Book of the Dead, on T:21228 05:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hackemslashem (Cav Hum Mal Neu) performed the invocation, on T:21246 05:13 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:1588, rt[0:08:33] 05:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hackemslashem (Cav Hum Mal Neu) genocided class L, on T:21249 05:17 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 05:18 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:19 -!- raisse has quit [Client Quit] 05:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hackemslashem (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed the high priest of Moloch, on T:21465 05:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hackemslashem (Cav Hum Mal Neu) acquired The Amulet of Yendor, on T:21466 05:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 05:20 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Minetown, on T:2288, rt[0:15:39] 05:20 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:2305, rt[0:15:47] 05:22 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:2454, rt[0:17:29] 05:27 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 05:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] hackemslashem (Cav Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:21932 05:30 okay. i committed a change that forces the first spell given to the character to be level 1 05:30 and if the hero knows a spell, their power is 5, so they can cast that lvl 1 spell 05:31 *only* the first spell? 05:31 that sounds great 05:32 especially reasonable for like wizards 05:32 yes. so if you have two spells, the second can be 1, 2, or 3 05:32 ah 05:32 and it is a great "buff" (or at least making them more reasonable) for priests 05:32 that's fine, just wanted to clarify 05:32 gj 05:32 yeah, not AS many starts where you're essentially forced to spec for melee 05:32 it was kinda silly that "hey, i'll go into that dungeon. i've got two spells, but i can't cast 'em!" 05:32 until such time as you find a usable spell 05:33 thats the same reasoning I have about healers not starting with enough mana to cast normal healing :) 05:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Bar Hum Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:1826 05:34 that's awesome 05:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] Cloudmillion (Bar Hum Fem Cha), 1310 points, T:1887, killed by a soldier ant 05:36 reminds me back in the day doin hardcore 343 prot racket where you take the soko zoo money all to the mt priest at xl1 05:36 you had to eat newts to be able to cast healing at all on your pet 05:36 lol 05:36 or find energy pot 05:36 or something 05:37 yeah that max hp thing pretty much only affects prot racket :) 05:37 max hp? 05:37 sorry max mana 05:37 oh you mean when you quaff all your starting potions of healing to get better hp? 05:37 ah right 05:38 too much multi tasking for my brain right now 05:40 but quaffing the potion to buff max hp might be interesting for like pacifists 05:41 ye i think thats standard paci strats 05:42 getting XLs as paci is a pain, I have never done this myself, i think you can get a few from the Oracle 05:42 I did a pacfist in 3.4.3 05:42 and after that you're left with shagging demons for the rest? 05:42 got as far as to medusa with a yellow dragon pet but messed up (and got stoned) 05:42 oh and GOL pots i guess 05:42 if you can get any 05:42 GL* 05:43 but I do enjoy playing protection racket :) 05:43 oh wraith are probably also allowed as long as you dont kill 'em yourself 05:43 foocubi 05:43 i already covered that 05:43 what did you think i meant by shagging demons 05:43 ohh, missed that line, damn multitasking 05:43 lol 05:43 sounds like I need lunch 05:43 :D 05:43 get back to work u scrub :P 05:43 has anyone done a pacifist recently? last one I remember was Graznop with the boulder in astral 05:43 me too 05:44 amateurhour: no idea 05:44 if only the scoreboard has a feature for listing games of a certain conduct 05:44 (it doesnt) 05:45 another cool thing would be to see most conduct per role (that way ppl can start racing to get the most conducts on each role) :) 05:46 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest9628 05:46 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 05:46 lol internet 05:47 lol this computer mostly but also my internet 05:47 but anyway I do the potion quaff HP regardless because More HP Good 05:47 (and you're a fucking healer you can bet you'll need it) 05:49 as for pacifist I've never once tried it but I'd be interested in it someday 05:50 on that note has anyone here tried dyna? 05:50 -!- Guest9628 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:51 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 05:52 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:54 umbire, yeah I lost a streak of 5 when doing protection racket 05:54 oneshot by boulder trap 05:56 I tried protection racket with arc literally once on local 05:56 try it on Hea-Gno 05:56 died to a centaur that was literally next to the stairway of the second/third mines floor 05:56 soon as I entered 05:56 literally nothing I could do just "lol you lose twat" 05:56 343 prot racket soko zoo was EZ if you're XL1, altho the giant mimics could fuck you up 05:57 so like taking all that money to the mt priest for huge payout was actaully viable 05:57 IDK if anyone has pulled that off on 3.6 or 3.7 05:57 its definitely much harder now 05:57 I feel like it's still possible on 3.6 05:57 why do you think that 05:57 you get deeper monster spawns 05:57 because the soko zoo difficulty 05:57 yea 05:57 which i think was already in 3.6 but not sure? 05:58 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:32504 05:58 Oh right, yeah 05:58 XL1 Soko:5 being the top lets say, or you can get even shallower, its difficulty 5, but under the new system… 05:58 its >10 difficulty typically 05:58 as much as 14 maybe 05:58 idk 05:58 more sensible considering, but unfortunate for such strats 05:59 yeah its much harder to pull off 05:59 maybe still doable 05:59 well theoretically it must be possible still 05:59 but pretty hard 05:59 lets start a channel challenge for it :D 06:00 lol 06:00 I wonder, should you go to minetown first and buy your first rounds of prot and then go to sokoban and then back? 06:00 better to do that than try all at once 06:00 hmm 06:00 i never considered that but yea might be good shoyut 06:00 shout* 06:00 or at least more 'sensible' 06:01 and then once you have more money 06:01 you already have a clear path to mt 06:01 if you do it that way you it is pretty much a normal pacifist run minus talking to the oracle 06:01 in general anything you can do to buff weapon damage and AC early is a good idea 06:01 when i was a noobie i used to save enchant scrolls for holy water 06:01 and then die and not get a chance to use them at all 06:01 clearly this is an error 06:01 lol 06:02 I mean I get it 06:02 I do that :P 06:02 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Death, on T:32689 06:02 with exception of generating DSM 06:03 it's a matter of which armor you're enchanting as much as anything 06:03 yesterday I learnt that if you use a cursed scroll you will get a negatively enchanted DSM 06:03 and if you're on some temp stuff atm it's only logical 06:03 lol 06:04 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Pestilence, on T:32749 06:05 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Dna-Kni Dwa Mal Law) destroyed Famine, on T:32800 06:06 [hdf-us] [ndnh] malor (Kni Dwa Mal Law), 3700392 points, T:32831, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/m/malor/notdnethack/dumplog/1645223725.ndnh.txt 06:07 gg 06:07 <@malor> thanks 06:07 trying to figure out this Dyna thing 06:07 maybe there's something in options 06:07 grats 06:10 Oh hey, actually figured it out 06:10 set it to plain 06:11 there's a way to make the unicode mode work I'm sure, but I'll deal with that later 06:12 <@malor> thanks 06:15 going it blind, gonna see if I can feel out the differences 06:21 Umbire: well i'd try to avoid enchanting armour im not gonna keep 06:21 but as a general rule i'd say anything you can do to buff your character now is not worth saving unless you're already quite strong 06:21 that was what I was getting at, yes 06:22 and also yes 06:26 hmmm I should try for a racial ascension soon after I log my second one 06:26 (first on servers) 06:35 -!- chao has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:39 Okay well I apparently cannot close doors in Dyna 06:39 c defaults to chat and 06:40 ah, moved door stuff to o 06:40 that's a bit counter intuitive 06:42 [hdf-us] [4k] killer (deadmeat) (Bar Hum Mal Neu) entered the Rogue tribute level, on T:25930 06:45 [hdf-us] [4k] killer (deadmeat) (Bar Hum Mal Neu), 23142 points, T:26253, killed by an ogre king, while frozen by potion vapours 06:55 whoop, they have reviving zombies in dyna 06:56 still semiedible though 06:59 [hdf-us] [4k] brunhilda (deadmeat) (Val Hum Fem Neu) entered the Minetown temple, on T:2283 07:03 [hdf-us] [spl] Everdying (Dra Hum Mal Neu), 33 points, T:86, taken down by a mud elemental 07:11 -!- chao has joined #hardfought 07:15 They seem to do the Un thing for restricted weapons at minimums 07:15 -s 07:18 -!- chao is now known as stenno 07:25 I have two Hawaiian shirts 07:25 if you're gonna mimic EvilHack make them readable at least! 07:30 they tell you when a corpse's gone bad, interesting 07:31 oh huh, can also tell when arrows are magical 07:31 for some reason...? 07:31 Might be tied to a role alignment thing! 07:31 * Umbire is playing barb 07:33 -!- Umbire has quit [Killed (zinc.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 07:33 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 07:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3391 07:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 973 points, T:3642, killed by an iguana, while fainted from lack of food 07:35 <@hackemslashem> Must have the fiqhack like magical sensing for all roles then? I only played a couple hundred turns of dyna last week 07:38 they have a magic chest in minetown o: 07:39 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 07:40 <@hackemslashem> I feel so spoiled with magic chests 07:41 <@hackemslashem> I'm like... What to do with all time time saved? 07:42 <@hackemslashem> *that time 07:44 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:6066 07:44 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Big Room, on T:7190, rt[1:53:00] 07:46 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 8722 points, T:7210, killed by a tengu 07:46 oooooh 07:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Pri Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:11400 07:46 Hobbits getting a sling also get some ammo 07:46 I LIKE 07:46 "m_initthrow(mtmp, !rn2(4) ? FLINT : ROCK, 6);" 07:47 that means it might be easier to id flint :P 07:49 Oh yeah def 07:49 that's a xnh/evil thing where I first saw it 07:50 (also it just plain makes sense lol) 07:52 [hdf-us] [4k] brunhilda (deadmeat) (Val Hum Fem Neu) reached the bottom of the Mines, on T:7158 07:54 thats funnily enough one of the benefits of cavemen "start with flint ided" :P 07:54 -!- froggles has joined #hardfought 07:54 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 07:56 it's a p. small benefit in the grand scheme of things but still nice 07:56 one less gray stone to sort 07:56 (usually) 07:57 yeah 07:57 one of 2 possible luckstones 07:57 (kick test excludes loadstones and rub test excludes touchstones) 07:57 EXCEPT if you're wearing kicking boots 07:57 or gauntlets of power 07:57 :P 07:58 i was typing that 07:58 I literally had to double-check I wasn't wearing probably-kicking boots that I picked up earlier 07:58 for just such this occasion :B 07:58 i have fallen into that trap 07:58 it's either touch or luck 07:59 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:59 "scritch, scritch" 08:01 dynahack has colour alchemy, random drgon appearances, and forever-to-train 08:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 160 points, T:511, killed by a bat 08:04 all from Un that I can tell 08:04 (or at least it has those too) 08:04 should pull out that variant chart later 08:06 oh speaking of training there's a bunch of x2's in the menu 08:06 that stuff I can train at double speed for the role or just that char, let's see... 08:07 <@hackemslashem> I'd like to see whetstones added, and maybe 1 other gray stone to mix it up. But not healthstones, too OP... Maybe coal? For you naughty nethackers 08:07 oh shit 08:08 if I use an object enough I id it 08:08 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 08:08 heyo 08:08 <@hackemslashem> Yep! I think there is crosstraining for certain things too, daggers/knives maybe? 08:08 #en 08:08 ...lol 08:09 knives're restricted for me 08:09 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Minetown, on T:2894, rt[0:22:34] 08:09 they have armor skills tho 08:09 <@hackemslashem> I saw that, sounds cool - but no idea what armor skills do - maybe raises AC? Better blocking? Counter attacks?!? 08:10 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:2938, rt[0:23:31] 08:10 <@hackemslashem> Ever watch Shield Hero anime? 08:10 we'll see 08:10 lol no. 08:10 <@hackemslashem> It was ok, I just like the idea of a hero who's only skill is.. shield haha. 08:10 <@hackemslashem> The ultimate pacifist 08:11 ADOM has something like that 08:11 https://ancardia.fandom.com/wiki/Shield 08:11 Shields are the only item group in the game that cannot be used to attack enemies in melee; any other item wielded in the hand slots can be used for this. A PC wearing two shields cannot perform melee attacks except kicks. This is an effective method to avoid accidentally attacking monsters in melee, for instance under darkness or in the Animated Forest. 08:11 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3023, rt[0:25:12] 08:11 [hdf-eu] [un] gelrath (Bar Orc Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a +0 dwarvish cloak on an altar, on T:3028, rt[0:25:21] 08:12 now I wish nethack allowed you to use 2 shields, but this would be OP for pacifists 08:13 <@hackemslashem> What about a 2-handed shield? Pacifists already have it so rough 08:13 p. inconvenient when you're trying to do not-fighting 08:13 giant 2h tower shield with a shove attack 08:14 was mostly having pick-axing in mind 08:14 amateurhour: I know dnh has the tower shield 08:14 <@hackemslashem> King Leonidas: Lets give them something to drink! (pushes with shield) 08:18 also daggers have been training just fine for me so far 08:18 so either lucky, Lucky or it's just restricted projectiles that slip/misfire 08:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1174 points, T:795, killed by a dwarf 08:22 <@malor> According to the scoreboard only 1 of the last 1,000 ascensions was Pacifist. (That goes back to August 24th) apparently no one did one during TNNT? 08:23 @hackemslashem I nominate thiefstones as the other gray stone (but I think whetstones are kind of a tepid addition and don't want them in vanilla) 08:26 <@hackemslashem> What's a thiefstone do? 08:26 [hdf-us] [slshm] arnibald (Val Hum Fem Law), 1163 points, T:1677, killed by a housecat 08:26 <@hackemslashem> oh it's xnh 08:27 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 08:28 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest4492 08:28 -!- Guest4492 has quit [Killed (silver.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 08:28 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 08:30 thing's finding ways to die while plugged up, I'm praying it's because of some arcane jostling thing and not because of this laptop just becoming a paperweight 08:34 though even that's not great in itself 08:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:2385 08:40 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 10574 points, T:8298, killed by an invisible Aleax of Ptah 08:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 94 points, T:174, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:42 -!- taichi has joined #hardfought 08:42 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) murdered his faithful pseudodragon, on T:1 08:42 [hdf-us] [evil] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha), 64 points, T:1, caught himself in his own death field 08:43 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Dra Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:39, slipped while mounting a saddled baby green dragon 08:43 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest8465 08:43 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 08:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Pri Elf Fem Cha), 1289 points, T:2701, killed by a hill orc 08:44 I am very unhappy with this. 08:44 -!- Guest8465 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 381 points, T:342, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:45 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Dro Mal Cha), 0 points, T:2, killed by a system shock 08:45 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 0 points, T:3, killed by a system shock 08:45 -!- froggles has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:46 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 296 points, T:157, done in by a giant bat 08:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1535 08:49 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Nbn Law), 272 points, T:503, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Tou Hum Mal Neu) destroyed gargor's ghost, the former Pillager, on T:3436 08:51 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 08:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1322 points, T:3436, burned by molten lava 08:55 -!- taichi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:55 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Dwa Fem Law), 545 points, T:371, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] post163 (Kni Hum Fem Law), 231 points, T:213, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:57 [hdf-us] [spl] post163 (Kni Hum Mal Law), 80 points, T:74, slipped while mounting a saddled pony 08:57 [hdf-us] [seed] post163 (Wiz Orc Mal Cha) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 08:57 [hdf-us] [seed] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered the Dungeons of Doom [random seed] 08:57 [hdf-us] [seed] post163 (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (gnomes), on T:1, rt[0:00:02] 08:58 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Ith Fem Una), 68 points, T:208, killed by a gas cloud 08:59 [hdf-us] [slshm] arnibald (Val Hum Fem Law), 6606 points, T:2391, killed by a soldier ant 09:00 lol was testing, magic missile wand ID'd before I actually did the engraving part 09:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed PetraKelly's ghost, the former Acolyte, on T:3479 09:01 !lastgame petrakelly 09:01 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/PetraKelly/nethack/dumplog/1645535137.nh.html 09:03 -!- Demo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:03 -!- Demo has joined #hardfought 09:03 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Demo] by ChanServ 09:04 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Inf Ith Fem Una), 424 points, T:511, killed by a mountain dwarf 09:04 lots of cool little changes in vanilla 09:05 they are BIG not little stop insulting them 09:05 "Casting a forgotten spell uses some random amount of power" mean 09:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Pri Hum Mal Neu), 497 points, T:1739, killed by a rock piercer 09:06 vanilla is just epihack now 09:06 <@malor> epihack? 09:07 evil patch idea hack 09:07 random(amount the spell would've used) 09:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 174 points, T:1839, killed by a kobold 09:08 i think epi is too strong 09:08 mild-annoyance-patch-idea-hack 09:09 oho 09:09 idk i do see some nice ones that are justice 09:09 like no catiff on undead 09:09 body armor skill improves AC 09:09 Demo: no quarter for abominations 09:09 illiterates learning spells directly if from their god is pretty interesting 09:10 maybe it should always be learnt directly? idk 09:10 doesn't fuck illiterate casters out of casting for no real reason 09:10 makes more sense in my head that they impart the knowledge into your head 09:10 amateurhour: that's because they made it make sense in your head 09:10 like how they reach into ur stomach to fill it with food sometimes 09:11 changes illiterate conduct a bit 09:11 as far as playing goes 09:12 all illiterate ascensions from here on shall be graced with an asterisk 09:12 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 09:12 i think all 3.7 ascs deserve an asterisk 09:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4969 09:12 until release then they deserve a 3.7 09:12 pls 09:13 if u play on a dev branch it is hard to say what version you ascended 09:13 i don't think i've ascended 3.7 09:13 you gonna ask aoei to file ascensions away by commit? 09:13 did u ascend 3.7 yesterday or 3.7 a yr and a half ago? 09:13 Demo: dumplogs have the commit hash 09:13 oh nice 09:13 oh. i have, nm 09:14 i have one but it was from so long ago can you even call it 3.7 anymore? 09:14 also i somehow had like 30 wishes that game idk what happened in my votd 09:15 is the editlevel in the xlogfile version? guessing not 09:16 not that it really matters or anything 09:16 but if people really care they can look up the dumplog 09:16 so i guess its fine 09:16