00:00 If the altar is well above that, it's still possible to get a monster down there and chase it all the way up; I've had to do that before. 00:01 you could also sacrifice a former pet on another god's altar, if you are willing to take the pet-killing penalty and get smited 00:01 <@carlarc> hmm 00:01 <@carlarc> which monsters can i use like that so they chase me 00:03 <@carlarc> trolls, any @ but most elves are too weak 00:03 Nearly anything. 00:03 As long as they'll flee up stairs. 00:03 <@carlarc> any of em flee upstairs? 00:04 intelligent monsters will 00:04 <@carlarc> so any humanoid for example 00:05 yeah, list is here https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Intelligent_monster 00:06 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Rog Vam Mal Cha) entered the Town, on T:6096, rt[1:03:05] 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:5033 00:11 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed PetraKelly's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:5242 00:22 [hdf-us] [dnh] yoyodyne (Bin Hlf Mal Non), 244 points, T:649, killed by a grid bug 00:23 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:26 <@carlarc> andrio: idk how to get an intelligent monster to get scared and stay that way without expending scare monster scrolls 00:27 <@carlarc> trying but horns dont work 00:27 -!- oh6 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6417 00:27 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Rog Vam Mal Cha), 4323 points, T:8239, killed by a hill orc, while frozen by a monster's gaze 00:28 You can blow a tooled horn or bugle at them, or just attack them enough without killing them. 00:28 Or use the cause fear spell if you have it. 00:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] yoyodyne (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1173 00:29 I don't think they'll flee upstairs though unless they're badly damaged 00:30 <@carlarc> ive been damaging them into 1 hp and they dont flee 00:32 what is it? 00:32 <@carlarc> captains, mind flayers, displacer beasts (evilhack) 00:32 Mm, ok. They need to be scared too, which hitting them sometimes does. 00:33 at that point the horn should work too. 00:33 though I forget what isn't scared by that. 00:34 <@carlarc> oh yeah that worked 00:34 <@carlarc> ty 00:35 👍🏻 00:37 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Pri Ith Fem Cha) averted death (suffocated by a water elemental), on T:35681 00:44 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:00 <@carlarc> this is agony 01:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] yoyodyne (Dnb-Nob Dwa Fem Law) averted death, on T:6402 01:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] yoyodyne (Nob Dwa Fem Law), 19903 points, T:6477, killed by a fractured Amm Kamerel 01:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2218 01:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed dpmdpm's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:8197 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by reading the fortune inside a cookie, on T:3250 01:15 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2637 points, T:4111, killed by a quasit 01:21 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Ran Inc Mal Neu) was given Mirror Brand, on T:5899 01:26 -!- winny has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:9499 01:26 -!- b93 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:27 -!- winny has joined #hardfought 01:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:2702 01:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2987 01:35 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Ran Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:6699 01:39 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 9 points, T:158, killed by a water moccasin 01:46 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 572 points, T:1321, killed by a dart 01:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4947 01:53 -!- arahael has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.1] 02:00 -!- joes has joined #hardfought 02:02 -!- 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-!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] SrinivasSamJespe (Tou Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:5051 04:02 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] SrinivasSamJespe (Tou Hum Mal Neu), 1696 points, T:5564, killed by a giant ant 04:07 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given Cleaver, on T:70250 04:14 <@carlarc> jesus 04:15 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/923866331927965696/unknown.png 04:15 <@carlarc> guess wraiths are going extinct 04:20 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:22 <@riker> have fun with htat 04:22 <@riker> enjoy your levels if you feel like trying to lure them away ig 04:24 [hdf-eu] [gh] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Croesus, on T:33775 04:31 -!- Announcy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:32 <@carlarc> oh great, of course converting the altar with the difficulty 12 priest's corpse didn't reduce the anger 04:41 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Pri Ith Fem Cha) killed Nalzok, on T:39588 04:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed pescepalla's ghost, the former Aborigine, on T:2914 04:42 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Pri Ith Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:39589 04:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed sluggoman's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2947 04:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed wispofvapor's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:2967 04:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3102 04:48 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 2141 points, T:3197, killed by a gold golem 04:51 -!- Announcy has joined #hardfought 04:51 -!- mode/#hardfought [+v Announcy] by ChanServ 04:51 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:1608 04:52 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Pri Ith Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:40001 04:52 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 453 points, T:1622, killed by a vrock 05:05 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Pri Ith Fem Cha) had Ogresmasher bestowed upon her by Susanowo, on T:40421 05:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1288 points, T:1965, killed by an imp 05:14 mm, it has to be on a co-aligned altar, or one that angers a god other than yours. 05:14 i.e. former pet on non-co-aligned altar 05:18 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2190 05:18 -!- cbus has quit [Quit: reboot] 05:20 -!- cbus has joined #hardfought 05:27 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Pri Ith Fem Cha) was chosen to take lives for the Glory of Susanowo, on T:41349 05:32 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3139 05:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law), 20 points, T:291, killed by a fox 05:37 -!- Bartol has joined #hardfought 05:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Sam Hum Fem Law), 1682 points, T:1845, killed by a soldier ant 05:42 feels like trap doors have increased in 3.7 05:42 have lost multiple runs to hitting trap doors in mine town... 05:43 trap door -> gnrome with scroll of create monster that craetes a screen full of enemies including many soldier ants, yay 05:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:657 05:50 <@carlarc> incredible luck: orcs looted my chest while the fastest gelatinous cube ive ever seen stopped me from easily reaching them due to being a cleric with no ranged attacks and their 3 turn kill engulf, i kill them at range eventually and accidentally lead the cube into the chest and all the dropped stuff 05:53 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Nobbs (Sam Hum Mal Law) had Excalibur thrown at him by some watery tart, on T:2562 06:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1689 06:15 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given the Black Arrow, on T:72339 06:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 240 points, T:1038, killed by a boulder 06:25 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given Giantslayer, on T:72536 06:40 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 888 points, T:3032, killed by a gnome lord 06:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Arc Gno Fem Neu), 254 points, T:1732, killed by a wererat 06:46 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Nobbs (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a katana named Snickersnee bestowed upon him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:5901 06:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 845 points, T:2517, killed by a pony 06:53 -!- Terexen has quit [Quit: Saraba] 07:01 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Nobbs (Sam Hum Mal Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a brown mold, on T:7222 07:03 [hdf-eu] [gh] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide gauntlets of dexterity and power", on T:35194 07:08 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Nobbs (Sam Hum Mal Law) retrieved the Mine's End luckstone, on T:8043 07:17 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:17 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 07:36 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mad Hum Mal Neu) killed Sir Garland, on T:20422 07:36 [hdf-eu] [gh] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed the Minion of Huhetotl, on T:36509 07:37 [hdf-eu] [gh] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) picked up the Bell of Opening, on T:36514 07:55 finally got column resizing working like i wanted to 07:55 now the rows and then i can finally deploy again 07:58 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 08:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1575 08:05 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 08:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Arc Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2625 08:12 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed Vecna, on T:73128 08:14 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 08:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided two random monsters from class L, on T:74697 08:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided arch-liches, on T:74698 08:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided master liches, on T:74698 08:43 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) genocided alhoons, on T:74699 08:45 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Angelslayer bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:74715 08:50 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:4278 08:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:40762 08:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Sorceress, on T:40833 08:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5326 08:54 [hdf-eu] [nh370] peterg (Val Dwa Fem Law), 318 points, T:1449, killed by a giant bat 08:54 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 08:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Field Worker, on T:5691 08:57 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:5292 08:58 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) was given Xiuhcoatl, on T:8023 08:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 3212 points, T:4000, killed by a rothe 09:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Arc Dwa Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6401 09:08 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) was given Bloodletter, on T:8104 09:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given the Wallet of Perseus, on T:73179 09:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Arc Dwa Mal Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:6801 09:12 -!- Sting has joined #hardfought 09:16 -!- Sting has quit [Client Quit] 09:16 its the best i can do for now before i go fucking insane qwith the fucking term resizing 09:16 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of fencing gloves entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:6564 09:16 it will at some point get to the correct dimensions 09:16 all i can do 09:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Arc Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:7339 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) wished for "3 cursed potions of water", on T:41964 09:18 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:6603 09:19 got a link to it anywhere stenno? 09:21 cleaning up now 09:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] elron (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Necromancer, on T:42010 09:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 2078 points, T:7881, choked on a tin of pony meat 09:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 2045 points, T:1694, killed by a cave spider 09:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:3664 09:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:3668 09:28 amateurhour: https://stenno.github.io/ 09:29 kwl github pages is a good choice 09:29 i have to read more into the new library i am using, at the moment its very messy 09:29 light it on fire 09:29 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a steel dwarvish spear entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:7131 09:29 could you accept non-gzipped ttyrecs too? 09:30 yes sure 09:30 what about ttyrec via url? 09:30 i have to get rid of DecompressionStream anyway, its already added as an issue 09:30 also noted in issue, should work ootb 09:30 sweet 09:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] melange (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4878 09:31 why u gotta get rid of compressionstream? 09:31 the carlarc ttyrec gets to the correct size at about frame 500 09:31 Demo: its nonstandard 09:31 because only chrome supports it or something 09:31 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:7153 09:31 https://caniuse.com/?search=decompressionstream 09:32 a very nasty oversight when i first implemented it 09:32 no polyfills that sort of work? 09:33 it should be possible to easily polyfill with TransformStream, but no such polyfill exists and idk how gzip decompression actually works so i cannot implement it myself 09:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] melange (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5303 09:33 rip 09:33 https://github.com/stenno/onlinettyplay/issues/12 09:34 https://www.npmjs.com/package/@stardazed/streams-polyfill sounds like it could do it but I only spent like 5 seconds reading 09:34 weekly downloads 258 pepelaugh 09:34 oh neat 09:34 i was lied to by someone when they said such a polyfill doesn't exist 09:36 i added the link to the issue, gotta investigate in due time 09:37 i wish there was a way in gh where i can say 'this PR addresses the issue without fixing it, so don't close the issue' 09:38 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Arc Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2080 09:39 just mentioning the issue number in a commit/PR message links adds a link but doesn't close it 09:39 bleh thx 09:39 I think it's only if you specifically say something like 'fixes [issue number]' it autocloses 09:39 thought so 09:40 i linked the issue via the gh interface 09:40 apparently this implies closing 09:40 [hdf-us] [xnh] melange (Val Dwa Fem Law), 5988 points, T:5810, killed by a rope golem 09:42 really not happy with this solution right now, its a chimera of two different terminal emulators 09:42 more jank = more epic 09:43 i should focus on more pressing things like optional decompression and url loading 09:43 and then come back to this 09:44 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:46 so there are two major rewrites coming up: drop xterm.js in favor of ansiterminal/ansiparser 09:46 and the second one will be related to iterator-helpers 09:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:4819 09:47 the TC39 people i talked to confirmed that iterator-helpers will not be stage-3 in the near future so thats a bit on hold 09:47 'its not on the agenda' 09:47 even though i did some intensive lobbying (some would say whining and nagging) 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 2696 points, T:4898, killed by a wand 09:48 there's definitely polyfills for those 09:49 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 781 points, T:2208, killed by a large mimic 09:49 no reason to polyfill a stage-2 proposal 09:49 i will do it as soon as it is stage-3 09:49 that's not very webdev of u 09:50 the fact that i am using stage-3 instead of stage-4 in the first place is already webdevy 09:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 105 points, T:479, killed by a boulder 09:50 real webdevs produce spaghetti abominations of polyfills from stage 0 onwards via a convoluted mess of webpack and babel configs that break if you modify them in the slightest 09:51 been there, done that, there is only suffering in that route 09:51 the suffering is how u know u r ALIVE 09:51 i already suffer enough with autoresizing 09:52 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:54 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Minetown, on T:1311, rt[0:12:42] 09:55 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:1357, rt[0:13:15] 09:56 how long until someone writes a good dgl replacement? 09:57 I guess it wouldn't see use until post hdf. at least my idea of good lol 09:58 what would the 'good dgl' have? 09:58 honestly because it probably won't be written for another 15-20 years i have no idea 10:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] augmentedfourth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 113730 points, T:23597, killed by a rock troll 10:01 honestly thinking about it in the grand scheme of things dgl really isn't bad 10:01 something with tterminal sizes 10:02 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:1826, rt[0:20:34] 10:03 I see functions in dgl like term_resize_check, not sure if dgl can already detect resizes or not 10:03 dgl could be really, really bad 10:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law), 310 points, T:1252, killed by a giant mimic 10:05 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921945122109816843/923696197242322964/QW34QDQXjBEoD30SqusSACBcCxhstPDb4w_UGIqI-cs.png 10:05 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 10:08 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 10:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2565 10:20 [hdf-eu] [gh] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) had a silver scimitar bestowed upon him by Camaxtli, on T:39137 10:23 wow i didnt realize so many countries celebrate christmas on christmas eve instead of christmas morning 10:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:3121 10:29 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] augmentedfourth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1246 points, T:2276, killed by a hill orc 10:33 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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I think I may have blank out one while trying to cancel an alhoon. I forgot that it book probably generated not in it's inventory, but on the floor beneath it. Now I have a blank spellbook... 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3864 11:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a scroll labeled FOOBIE BLETCH on an altar, on T:3870 11:15 they used to be 11:15 but that wouldnt deartifact them 11:15 so they would still work for the most part 11:15 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 11:16 they become blank but still work as the artifact 11:16 -!- oh6 has quit [Client Quit] 11:16 iirc 11:16 that got fixed? iirc? 11:16 anyway its possible that alhoon didnt generate with an artifact spellbook of secrets 11:16 and that all 3 already got generated 11:16 and if so, it would generate with just a normal spellbook of secrets, not an artifact, and it would be blankable with cancellation 11:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Cav Hum Mal Law), 370 points, T:1085, killed by a gnome king 11:17 just tried locally with a build from november cancelling lost names on the floor and it blanked but still works 11:17 oh hmm it didnt get fixed wtf just tested in ndnh2 11:17 so if it was fixed it would be a very recent thing 11:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] zhakupov (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Cleaver bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:13797 11:17 i think dilution is fixed then maybe? 11:18 "The Book of Infinite Spells suddenly heats up; steam rises and it remains dry." yeah ok 11:19 regardless, alasnuyo, if you had cancelled one it would be fine and it would still work and still be the artifact it ought to be 11:20 How about the Necronomicon? 11:20 Hopefully they've been generated elsewhere, and I just need to look carefully... 11:22 still works as the artifact even while blank, just checked that one 11:23 its possible bones pile hidden somewhere 11:23 have you loaded illurien level? have you loaded axus level? have you loaded valley of the dead? have you loaded the wizard tower level with the wizard? 11:25 or demogorgon level or sanctum? 11:25 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:25 each of those other than illuriens has a 10% chance of spawning one of the spellbook of secrets that will be an artifact if possible 11:26 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:6537, rt[1:20:20] 11:27 Only Illurien's level. And I've stolen her book. 11:29 But I found an oddity; turns out the alhoon's level has a bones pile. Some incantifier named Leeroy left behind a pile a stuff including some artifacts. The artibooks not among them though. 11:30 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Cav Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1784 11:32 its possible when he generated the level he already had generated too many books maybe 11:32 seems unlikely 11:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 75 points, T:366, killed by a jackal, while sleeping 11:33 seems a bit weird to have bones enabled for alhoon floor 11:33 could scam you out of a key I guess 11:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful dog, on T:4692 11:37 theres a lot of bones revision that needs to be done but im pretty open to that kind of thing 11:37 i think the more interesting bones the better 11:38 I guess if loading the bones still included the alhoon and key then it should be completely fine 11:39 The key's still there though. 11:39 one day im gonna 0 key it 11:39 i know how to force 0 key actually 11:39 some nexto shenanigans? 11:40 u can enexto into it 11:40 but u can also put all ur keys in soko walls 11:40 so u have to enexto into it 11:40 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:41 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 11:42 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "thoroughly historic very fireproof unlit holy +5 stethoscope named bhaak made me do this", on T:36912 11:42 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:42 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 11:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] Umbire (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2203 11:45 Orc Town* 11:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1362 points, T:2320, killed by a werejackal 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:2229 11:47 !role 11:47 nabru: grunthack rogue 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) stole 3049 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kesh's second-hand bookstore, on T:2254 11:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] augmentedfourth (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3843 11:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] augmentedfourth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 2157 points, T:3960, killed by a dwarf mummy 11:49 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 11:49 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mad Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 quicksilver", on T:28309 11:51 [hdf-us] [gh] nabru (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1018 points, T:953, quit 11:51 gah zombies + my god is angry at me 11:51 Smoky is blindness, unfortunate 11:51 Means it'll be tossed at me a lot 11:51 And full ID, yay. 11:53 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a barbed devil, on T:27577 11:56 [hdf-us] [gh] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 187 points, T:546, killed by a dwarf 12:02 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4202 12:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4260 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:3746 12:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Neu) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating an iguana corpse, on T:3874 12:06 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:27795 12:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 3561 points, T:4064, killed by a dwarf 12:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 1358 points, T:3694, killed by a killer bee 12:12 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3252 12:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] Umbire (Val Dwa Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:3611 12:13 -!- zhakupov has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:14 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 12:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law), 71980 points, T:25100, killed by a death ray 12:21 F 12:22 D: 12:22 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Cav Dwa Mal Law) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:5511 12:22 !lastgame haldisse 12:22 nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/h/haldisse/nethack/dumplog/1639781151.nh.html 12:23 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 12:23 hai 12:23 hello 12:23 Hello nabru, Welcome to #hardfought 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Umbire (Val Dwa Fem Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4191 12:23 how ya doin nabru 12:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) reached Minetown, on T:3933 12:23 pretty OK, on vacation. What about you? 12:23 same 12:24 im not calm 12:24 * K2 passes Demo a jolt cola 12:26 no good 12:27 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:4140 12:29 * K2 passes Demo a six pack of jolt cola 12:29 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Fem Law) killed Durin's Bane, on T:37458 12:29 merry christmas 12:30 o/ 12:31 im pretty sure i already drank the last jolt i ever will 12:31 :/ 12:31 cause they stopped making it in like jan 2020 12:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] zhakupov (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Student of Stones, on T:19738 12:32 nooooooooo 12:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:8429 12:33 is there like any imitation jolt cola you can get to avoid the shakes? 12:33 my friend still had some left but the cans are really thin so most of them died so we got some ppl together and had a ceremonial final jolt cola/ maker's mark cask strength mix before going out for oktoberfest shenanigans this year and decided probably the final jolt for most of us 12:33 no it has been given a proper funeral 12:34 euroshopper cola is like 25p for 250ml 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] stoicjin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) performed her first genocide (class h), on T:21372 12:39 [hdf-us] [nh370] stoicjin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) genocided class L, on T:21373 12:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Cav Dwa Mal Law), 3320 points, T:6542, killed by a troll 12:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) polymorphed his first item, on T:15902 12:41 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 103597 points, T:21896, killed by a death ray 12:41 That's another death ray 12:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] zhakupov (Mon Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:22679 12:46 <@malor> Umbrie - wand of death in hands of monsters is more common in dnh. You have to be really careful until you have reflection or MR. First wish MR is what I do 95% of the time. 12:46 !ping 12:46 nabru: Pong! 12:48 -!- zhakupov has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3320 12:57 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 12:58 @v?crococodile 12:58 crococodile ~2~ crocodile (:) | Lvl: 6 | Diff: 7 | Spd: 9 | Res: none | Confers: nothing | MR: 0 | Generates: gehennom dungeons | AC: 5 | Attacks: 4d2 bite physical, 1d12 claw physical | Alignment: 0 | Flags: genocidable, carnivore, swims, amphibious, thick hide, oviparous 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3989 13:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] Eyedelcul (Pri Elf Mal Cha), 281 points, T:1175, killed by a wererat 13:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 4775 points, T:6876, killed by a fire ant 13:03 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:05 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 13:08 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 13:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:11044 13:12 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:17 [hdf-eu] [gh] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:39862 13:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a hobbit, on T:4460 13:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] stoicjin (Tou Hum Fem Neu) polymorphed her first object, on T:25554 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:5040 13:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law) entered a temple, on T:5140 13:26 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 13:27 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Blackmarket, on T:39169, rt[21:47:04] 13:28 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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14:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] Umbire (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a sasquatch, on T:6383 14:49 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 549 points, T:1196, killed by a mountain dwarf 14:49 Well that was inconveniently placed 14:49 Time to replace that mithril 14:53 oooooooooooh, found a pretty loaded dwarf/ 14:53 robbering! 14:53 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 13152 points, T:3895, quit 14:54 Pets couldn't hit 'em, had to take a small ding and Mjolnir 14:55 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Bar Gia Mal Cha), 1015 points, T:1145, killed by a jaguar 15:00 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Arc Gno Mal Neu), 1359 points, T:1587, killed by a boulder 15:02 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 15:10 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 15:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Sam Hum Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1156 15:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 74 points, T:297, killed by tumbling down a flight of stairs 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] haldisse (Val Hum Fem Law), 1689 points, T:2581, killed by an Uruk-hai, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 15:13 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Sam Hum Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:1620 15:15 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the Rat King, on T:31035 15:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) murdered Punkin, his faithful kitten, on T:709 15:17 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 15:19 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 386 points, T:1274, killed by a dwarf zombie 15:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 393 points, T:956, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant bat 15:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 121 points, T:308, killed by a goblin 15:23 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Bar Gia Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping a steel dagger on an altar, on T:3640 15:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Sam Gia Fem Law) acquired the luckstone from Mines' End, on T:31580 15:30 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Minetown, on T:1640 15:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:5250 15:49 [hdf-eu] [gh] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide jumping boots of speed", on T:40612 15:50 [hdf-eu] [gh] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed +2 dragonhide T-shirt of drain resistance", on T:40619 15:51 [hdf-eu] [gh] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased +2 dragonhide alchemy smock of reflection", on T:40631 15:52 [hdf-eu] [gh] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed oilskin fedora of brilliance", on T:40632 15:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 2693 points, T:2399, quit 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] Kevkat (Rog Hum Fem Cha) killed Demogorgon, on T:44448 15:57 -!- raisse has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:58 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 15:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3795 16:03 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4167 16:04 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:4224 16:09 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 54 points, T:71, killed by a falling rock 16:10 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 16:12 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 16:15 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 16:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] Graznop (Sam Gia Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:32392 16:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Sam Hum Fem Law) received Excalibur from a strange woman laying about in a pond, on T:5995 16:17 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:19 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:20 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 431 points, T:516, killed by a gnome 16:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Sam Hum Fem Law), 8402 points, T:6173, killed by a gnome mummy, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 16:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 3682 points, T:2819, killed by a giant spider 16:22 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:10009 16:35 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Bar Orc Fem Cha) entered the Town, on T:9830, rt[2:01:31] 16:38 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Rog Orc Fem Cha), 424 points, T:1033, killed by a small mimic 16:39 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1077 16:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:3222 16:42 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2853 points, T:1395, killed by a dwarf 16:44 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 3655 points, T:3503, killed by a human zombie 16:44 rip me 16:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 2365 points, T:2120, killed by a gecko, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 16:51 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) destroyed Kas, on T:65181 16:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) averted death (killed by a leocrotta), on T:13865 17:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 1422 points, T:2841, killed by an imp 17:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of reflection, on T:14260 17:13 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:66048 17:17 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 17:19 [hdf-eu] [gh] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) entered Gehennom for the first time, on T:41577 17:21 [hdf-us] [slth] dnb (Fla Dro Fem Cha) killed Krooella the Kobold Queen, on T:8509 17:22 [hdf-us] [slth] dnb (Fla Dro Fem Cha) killed Kroo the Kobold King, on T:8510 17:26 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a two-handed sword entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:66262 17:38 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 1374738 points, T:68377, petrified by a basilisk 17:38 D:!? 17:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Val Dwa Fem Law), 1103 points, T:2423, poisoned by a killer bee, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 17:54 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 17:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 82 points, T:626, killed by a sewer rat 18:03 !ping 18:03 nabru: Pong! 18:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Wiz Gno Mal Neu) read a Discworld novel, on T:1018 18:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Ran Inc Mal Neu) was given the Shield of the Resolute Heart, on T:15616 18:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 39270 points, T:17291, killed by a gnoll hunter 18:17 -!- Moult has joined #hardfought 18:17 is there a way to enable explore/wizard/disable permadeath/enable savescum on hardfought? 18:18 i can tell you at least that there is no way to enable savescumming in any way 18:20 stenno: ah ok :) pity. 18:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1249 18:21 but i am sure that people played in explore mode at least, but i am not sure if it was for vanilla 18:21 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 1410 points, T:3093, killed by a greater homunculus called Hecubus 18:22 i usually play nethack once a year around dec/jan, and i typically die after i get to minetown, delphi, and sokoban. so i figure i'd like to see more of the game otherwise it might take me years to get it :) 18:22 explore mode works for sure 18:22 OPTIONS=playmode:explore in your rc file 18:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:2012 18:26 I think you can also go into explore mode mid-game 18:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2154 18:27 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 1138 points, T:2440, killed by a pony 18:27 that would surprise me 18:29 I may be remembering wrong, naturally 18:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 132 points, T:216, killed by a fox 18:34 amateurhour: does that work midgame? 18:34 -!- Semilg has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:35 try it and see, i'd say :) 18:35 I don't think it works mid game, think it's a birth option, but not really sure 18:36 can you try #exploremode extcommand? 18:36 oh good point that's relatively new isn't it 18:37 its mentioned on the wiki 18:37 Yeah, that's what I was thinking of 18:37 extcommand info was added by paxed in 2016 18:37 woah how is it like half 11 already, I gotta sleep 18:38 seeya, merry christmas! 18:38 same, sleep well 18:38 anta won't show up until you're asleep, wee amateurhour 18:38 s 18:38 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:38 i guess it's father christmas for him 18:39 stenno: nope, the extcommand doesn't work :) that's ok. i'll try my best this game 18:40 good luck! 18:40 maybe i shouldn't use explore mode. maybe i should learn it like a real man 18:40 people of any gender learn nethack, but also yes 18:41 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Ran Inc Mal Neu), 146024 points, T:18110, killed by a silver droven bolt 18:41 i think its fair to say that you wont learn to play nethack properly in explore mode 18:42 is it desirable to drink a gain level potion as soon as possible? 18:42 no 18:42 I save them for much later 18:42 and curse a couple to get out of the sanctum or jubilex on the way back up 18:42 so the amount of experience you have to get to advance a level grows exponentially 18:43 so the longer you wait, the more value you get out of them 18:43 stenno: that makes sense, thanks :) bouquet also thanks 18:43 i use them in two cases: to reach level 14 for the quest, and cursed as an escape item or for ascension run 18:43 moult: you can get to xl10 fairly easily killing stuff 18:43 yes, you should be about XL12 at the castle 'naturally' 18:43 after that, what stenno said about xl14 18:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:4639 18:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] sickopsycho (Wiz Gno Mal Neu), 628 points, T:1238, killed by a giant ant 18:44 yes i generally don't have issues up to level 10, but typically after level 10 i die. almost always due to a random monster 18:44 run away more 18:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Cav Hum Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a hard hat on an altar, on T:4480 18:45 what role do you play? 18:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Cav Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Wanderer, on T:4821 18:46 -!- Terexen has joined #hardfought 18:46 hothraxxa: elf wizard 18:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Cav Hum Fem Neu) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:5431 18:46 ok that's a pretty fragile role 18:47 YANI (didn't see it in the list yet): make a couple random roles' quests accessible to any race as side-branches. Probably accessible via portal south of VoTD to keep some semblance of balance. 18:47 You should also have a decent set of spells to be casting with + casting-friendly armor at that point 18:47 so run away a lot, try to use spells instead of melee 18:48 i'd try to keep a strong pet but some prefer not to 18:49 unfortunately wizards always start with a kitten 18:49 dogs are better 18:49 you can set pettype:dog 18:49 stenno: ah neat, should i? 18:49 personally i wouldn't bother 18:50 or rather, i don't bother with it 18:50 stenno: won't work for a wizard 18:51 wow i didn't know that 18:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:5494 18:51 dogs are preferrable early because they can carry more 18:51 also they follow you a bit closer afaik 18:51 which helps when robbing shops 18:52 yes supposedly 18:52 kitten/small dog carry the same, but housecat/dog has a significant difference 18:53 TIL the puppy versions have speed 18, where as the house versions have speed 16 18:53 thanks nymph for stealing my cursed ring of hunger and the loadstone 18:53 and the large versions have speed 15 18:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed fixed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5940 18:54 and strangely, the wiki entry for apport is wrong about max carrying capacity for large dog/cat 18:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Gno Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:6700 18:54 this is very inaccurate. cats are usually so close you will fumble 18:55 "Your kitten named Mister Mittens rubs against your legs! You stumble and fall." 18:55 hehe 18:56 hahaha 18:57 EPI 18:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Cav Hum Fem Neu) entered a shop, on T:7276 18:58 meh no id scrolls 18:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming an ettin, on T:6629 19:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Cav Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:8120 19:09 what's the point of a tin opener? is it really strategically worth it, or just decoration? 19:09 wielding it allows you to open tins in 1 turn as if they were blessed 19:09 but its really worthless altogether 19:09 its one of the worst tools 19:10 also with regards to internals, it is really strange 19:10 it is a tool but gets treated as a weapon sometimes, but its not a weapontool 19:10 its purpose is to piss you off when it turns out to be the tool on your current mines level 19:11 hothraxxa: hahahaha 19:11 [hdf-eu] [nh370] NetSysFire (Cav Hum Fem Neu), 7328 points, T:9876, killed by a wraith, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 19:11 rip me 19:11 for example the fact that tourists start with their tin opener wielded in their hand is a special case 19:11 even a wet towel is better 19:12 a wet towel is pretty decent 19:12 Opening a tin with this tool will do so quickly regardless of the tin's BUC status. The exact number of turns required to open a tin depends on the BUC status of the tin opener: 0-2 turns if cursed, 0 or 1 turns if uncursed, and 0 turns if blessed. 19:12 ^i.e. it matters if you like to tin nurses, usually 19:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) destroyed sickopsycho's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2810 19:13 i wished a tinning kit wouldn't weight that much 19:13 but then it would probably be OP 19:13 there's other cases, some are less common, but that's like the number one scenario that comes to mind 19:13 you need a lot of tin 19:13 just use objmats 19:13 wooden tinning kits >>> 19:14 a wooding kit 19:14 (is tin a material?) 19:14 It is but not for tinning kits 19:14 Tinning kits are made of iron 19:14 can't get a tin tinning kit? 19:14 shame 19:15 wait no, I'm thinking of bronze 19:15 what's mad eof tine besides tins? 19:15 -!- medium_cool has joined #hardfought 19:15 and/or copper 19:15 yeah 19:15 tins are iron also 19:15 tin whistle 19:15 yeah 19:15 right, forgot the whistle 19:15 (which is actually metal, but eh tomato potato) 19:16 tin openers also take a lot of hassle out of eating your tins safely in general 19:16 you really use them? 19:16 yeah? 19:16 i don't think i have ever used a tin opener 19:16 i have but it's quite rare 19:17 0-2 turns for opening tins is a nice little time save 19:17 not counting tnnt 19:17 it is, sure 19:17 there's also other specific scenarios, e.g. playing giants in EvilHack 19:17 but i dont even think about that 19:17 unless you're a caveman you'll be relying on spinach a lot 19:17 yeah its different for variants, i'm sure 19:17 if time/turn speed running i can see it 19:17 hothraxxa: saving turns is always good 19:17 (actually also matters if you're vegetarian in vanilla/variants) 19:17 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law), 2596 points, T:4072, killed by a Woodland-elf 19:18 i gave up on the turn conservartiopn thing for the most part 19:18 since spinach is gonna be a primary strength source 19:18 it used to be a real killer in evilhack if you let your turn count get too high 19:18 then k2 changed the monster generation algorithm 19:19 i need to wield it, right? so wielding it and then wielding your primary weapon will also cost turns 19:19 because spiking monster generation, yeah 19:19 or actions 19:19 stenno: not anymore 19:19 wiki warriors, isnt there a variant who has a chance to actually spawn something really bad when you split puddings? https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Pudding_farming#Variants 19:19 it's enough to apply it 19:19 That's Fourk and dab's blood pudding nonsense iirc 19:19 i see 19:19 NetSysFire: are you thinking of blood puddings? that's fourk 19:19 hmm 19:19 maybe 19:19 i would have guessed grunthack because thats the kind of stuff grunthack does 19:20 hothraxxa: you owe me a potion of soda 19:20 you owe me a lead helmet 19:20 :3 19:20 !booze Umbire 19:20 * Beholder pours Umbire a pint of liquid courage, brewed by Croesus at 21 degrees Celsius. 19:20 grunthack tends to fix problems like killing izzy, pudding farming and astral call by hardcore punishing the player for doing it 19:21 ...how do you punish astral call? 19:21 i don't ever pudding farm so i don't recall what grunt does 19:21 oh you don't know? 19:21 or how does it specifically punish astral call 19:21 you are in for a treat 19:21 yeah I've not ever had to do it so 19:21 it kills you three times 19:22 doesn't sounds like much of a treat 19:22 unless it forces life saving on you just to make those kills stick 19:22 when i play an elf wizard, as soon as i find a chaotic altar, i tend to camp at it (e.g 50s) until i get to sacrifice enough mobs to get magicbane. is that a standard strategy? 19:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3846 19:23 or should i not rely on such persistent and formulaic playing approaches 19:23 sounds fine for me 19:23 i don't know about standard but it is common 19:23 it's a strategy 19:23 wizards usually want ot get mb asap 19:23 and a common one yeah 19:23 you can also go for stormbringer after but that's more common with other elf chars 19:24 hmm just looked up the grunt source and i cannot find the triple kill thing 19:24 <--- big stormy fan 19:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:7217 19:24 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a floating eye corpse, on T:3359 19:25 thanks for the advice :) 19:25 a lot of us enjoy helping players moult 19:26 how do you guys take notes? for example to remember that you have a particular resistance? 19:26 name (not call) an inventroy item 19:26 hothraxxa: ok :) 19:26 eg i tend to use my key for the last prayer 19:26 -!- medium_cool has quit [Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:27 I tend to rely on memory 19:28 for the tunr # of the last prayer? 19:28 hothraxxa: oh that's a good idea, haven't though of that 19:28 No, for resistances 19:28 though also for that, but mostly for resistances 19:28 I name my weapon the turn # of my last prayer, especially when playing vampire. 19:28 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:4251 19:29 i play too many games to rely on memory for resistances 19:30 woohoo :) magicbane! dlvl6, xplvl 4, ac 5, this wizard is pretty lucky so far! 19:30 go slowly, run away 19:30 overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer is true for darkest dungeon but also for nethack 19:31 'overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer' is true for darkest dungeon but also for nethack 19:31 also acting too quickly 19:31 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yyAgk9der4 19:32 moult: where are you playing? 19:32 if you come across a monster you can certainly kill but don't need to (i.e. not in your way, not hurting you), do you actively kill it or avoid it when possible? 19:32 hothraxxa: au.hardfought 19:32 ah. my third choice 19:32 stenno: yes :( i've been bitten too many times 19:33 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 6000 points, T:4600, poisoned by a silver dart 19:33 stenno: if there was audio to nethack, it should play that clip whenever you progress to a milestone 19:34 re: going out of your way to kill monsters: it depends on if you want to get loot, deathdrops, or eat the corpse they leave 19:34 there are a lot of reasons to kill monsters, but they depend on your situation 19:34 get xp 19:35 in the early game, go for the safe kill 19:35 i like to level wizards up as quickly as possib;e 19:35 is it always desirable to max your XP? 19:35 see above 19:36 levelling is another thing: you have to be XL14 for the quest, and afterwards you do not need to level anymore 19:36 well i agree in general but i like to get my wizards all the way to 30 19:36 however, gaining levels will give you hp, it might give you intrinsics, and it improves your spellcasting in certain ways 19:36 yeah 19:37 other roles i try to stay under 18 19:38 http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~damerell/games/spellcliff.txt # besides spell skills, 15 and 21 are important breakpoints for casting in other ways 19:40 hothraxxa: why stay under 18? 19:41 Spawn difficulty is related to XL 19:41 what Pinkbeast said 19:41 esp on astral 19:42 it's nice not to meet arch-liches before you find genocide 19:43 also archons are evil 19:44 yes. i like to save a bunch of gain level potions to quaff right after i get to astral though 19:44 once the level is generated 19:49 interesting tactic 19:49 you and your resources :P 19:50 at this point in the game i usually have used up all my potions for cursed GL or alchemy 19:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] quervo1 (Arc Hum Mal Law), 458 points, T:2016, killed by a potion of acid 19:52 what is the benefit in gaining levels on astral? 19:52 probably related to spellcasting 19:52 ^ 19:52 because you can get stuff like energy, HP, etc. through other means 19:53 i'm just thinking the turns may be better spent running towards an altar... 19:53 but depending on how heavy a caster you are you may want the extra success rate buffer 19:54 the idea in doing it on astral that I can suss out is because last floor of the game and you've already generated all the initial threats 19:56 but if i'm a caster my failure rate is 0% before I even start the ascension run? maybe i'm doing something wrong? 19:56 that's a difference in approach, and it kinda depends on the spells anyway 19:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2613 19:58 also depends on the role too, I'd think 19:58 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 133 points, T:320, killed by a water demon 20:00 I'm really interested in why gaining levels on astral would be beneficial? Magic missile scales with level, but enough of a benefit? 20:00 graznop: i don't used cursed gl on the ascenion run so i usually have a few and the hp/energy boost on astral is nice. tbh i usually don't need the extra but i like to get it 20:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 1272 points, T:2840, killed by a bolt of fire 20:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Ran Inc Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:1181 20:01 the pojn t is NOT to get xl gains before i reach astral 20:02 thx hothraxxa, that makes sense - use the potions if you you got them, for hp and pwr 20:03 yeah, it's not an important part of my strategy, it's just the way i optimize 20:03 all bets are off on astral 20:03 as far as normal strategy goes 20:03 *cough*purple rain*cough* 20:03 completely understand not gaining levels, i'm rarely past 15, maybe 17... 20:04 i find the riders really scary nowadays lol 20:04 they're slow. run away 20:04 their ability to shove monsters out of their way is scary 20:04 well 20:04 well 20:04 slower than you 20:04 yeah sure but if i don't get first altar i have to go back 20:04 and they group up 20:04 you'd be surprised how often you can run right by them 20:05 if its third altar you sometimes have to deal with multiple riders at the same time 20:05 oh don't let them bunch up 20:05 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 861 points, T:878, killed by a piranha 20:05 kinda hard to avoid that 20:05 as they follow you like homing missiles lol 20:05 i dunno. rarely happens to me 20:05 ah fair 20:05 maybe my strats are just bad lol 20:06 i doubt that 20:06 although you don't use purple rain do you 20:06 nope 20:06 they are (like all monsters) too stupid to move away from you if that is necessary to get to you (except in one-space corridors) 20:06 yeah makes a difference. i have far fewer monsters in my way 20:07 yeah for sure 20:07 this typically means that at certain times it's vital to cross certain squares quickly 20:07 also i always have a magic harp so i can charm monsters so i can move them 20:07 hmm nice 20:07 so the rider gets stuck, and won't get to you 20:08 i wanna try out that purple worm strat for sure 20:08 i swear by it 20:08 just realized that that is actually a nice paci strat 20:08 Hi jilles 20:09 purple rain is good and c corpse is good 20:10 Burrrp! Burrrp! Burrrp! 20:10 :D 20:10 i used to use c corpse a lot 20:10 Purple worms are a lot of fun. 20:10 but then i rationalized the wish away 20:10 i forget which variant lets you wish for a rotproof c corpse. might be unnh? 20:11 'Burrrp' makes me smile every time 20:11 or dyna 20:11 in un, c corpse strat is heavily nerfed 20:11 then dyna or fourk 20:12 it gets treated as unskilled so you have a 25% (?) cap on the hit throw 20:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Ran Inc Mal Neu), 6528 points, T:2532, killed by a large kobold 20:12 yeah, unskilled hit/throw reliability is shot to hell 20:13 makes actually training the shit hard too 20:13 (in cases of daggers/darts/etc.) 20:13 or impossible in the case of c corpses :P 20:13 yeah 20:13 i hardly ever use them but in those variants wishing is nerfed so when i got a non-wand wish this one time, a c corpse would come in handy so i wished my usual kind of wish and threw in rotproof 20:13 the c corpse never rotted 20:16 wasn't there a bug with ice boxes where you could make them unrottable? 20:16 yeah 20:16 yes in 3.6 20:16 I don't believe that's a thing in UnNetHack.. 20:17 i should look through my dumplogs and figure out which variant that was 20:20 a variant which makes c corpses unrottable should have very strong monsters heh 20:20 oh btw, with the DSM changes, i wonder if we see c corpse strat more often in vanilla 20:20 it seems much more viable now 20:21 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:5438 20:24 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:5586 20:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 289 points, T:812, killed by a giant bat 20:30 time for me to hit the sack. Seasonal greetings everyone! 20:32 1night 20:32 *'night 20:35 <@carlarc> hothraxxa: how do you get a magic harp every run? 20:35 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed the invisible Demogorgon, on T:78225 20:56 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:13402 20:57 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 21639 points, T:13516, killed by a giant centipede 21:02 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 21:05 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:15 if there is an item in a hole in sokoban, is it possible to retrieve it/ 21:16 also, is it worth it to eat poisonous corpses (e.g. giant beetle) to try and get resistance? 21:16 or should i wait for a safer corpse? 21:18 <@Shadow_Rider> You can walk onto the hole until it falls through 21:19 shadow_rider ok keep on falling through to the level below? 21:19 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Investigator, on T:4010 21:19 <@Shadow_Rider> Looks like you are playing 3.7 21:19 <@Shadow_Rider> I think if you just turn on autopickup and walk onto it you will pick it up before falling 21:20 <@Shadow_Rider> For poisonous corpses it depends on the situation if you can deal with lower strength 21:21 mmm well given i have an elf wizard i probably shouldn't 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4302 21:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4302 21:24 Quasits and quivering blobs are safe for eating if you want that res 21:24 [hdf-au] [nh370] Moult (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3656 points, T:7181, petrified by touching a cockatrice corpse bare-handed 21:24 oh goodness 21:24 :c 21:24 that was a bit of a silly mistake 21:25 Happens to the best of us 21:25 and the worst too 21:25 i think i should play on explore mode. i prefer to die when i really deserve it. not fatfingering. 21:28 F 21:28 Mm 21:29 My 'zeroth ascension' was in explore mode. 21:29 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Bar Gia Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:11140 21:29 not counting it as my first ascension. 21:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu) destroyed dpmdpm's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4543 21:35 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed the Rat King, on T:11445 21:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) destroyed augmentedfourth's ghost, the former Woman-at-arms, on T:23985 21:41 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 21:46 -!- krm26 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1612 21:52 Andrio: yeah i might do that. otherwise it gets a bit depressing 21:55 -!- zhakupov has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:58 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 22:02 <@Shadow_Rider> All this time I thought quasits were poisonous 22:02 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a wererat, on T:6478 22:03 yeah i found that out way too long after playing as well 22:03 Their sting is, so naturally you'd think 22:03 But their meat's safe to consume 22:04 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 7742 points, T:6969, killed by an ogre lord 22:04 Also with elf wizard you could use sustain ability/extrinsic poison res ring 22:08 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 74 points, T:415, killed by a small mimic 22:14 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law), 472 points, T:835, killed by a magic missile 22:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] Qwesti (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 882 points, T:2346, killed by an ape 22:25 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Bar Gia Mal Cha) killed Aphrodite, on T:14784 22:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:7402 22:33 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Ran Inc Mal Neu), 4975 points, T:2107, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted quasit, while praying 22:33 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) rejected atheism by offering a rock gnome corpse on an altar of Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3320 22:38 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:38 -!- zhakupov has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:39 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:3678 22:40 [hdf-us] [evil] k2 (Val Dwa Fem Law), 38612 points, T:18218, suffocated by a gelatinous cube, while frozen by a monster 22:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu) destroyed sickopsycho's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:8237 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 15404 points, T:8519, killed by a Green-elf, while sleeping 22:53 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 22:54 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 23:00 -!- hothraxxa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00 -!- zhakupov has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:04 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Bar Gia Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:18554 23:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:25941 23:06 Can statues of non-solid monsters like air elementals occur through standard random generation and/or as statue traps? 23:07 <@carlarc> ive seen a figurine of a fog cloud 23:18 <@riker> yes I believe so umbire 23:18 <@riker> theres a nhqdb entry about it iirc? 23:20 Figurines make sense and tend to be more common, they're not bound to be fleshy monsters like statues 23:20 And riker I swear I've seen them but I've never had cause to think about them like this until now 23:27 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 23:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Croesus, on T:27052 23:33 https://nhqdb.alt.org/?1178 23:33 This would be the one I think 23:39 <@carlarc> !lastgame ligang 23:39 @carlarc: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/l/ligang/evilhack/dumplog/1640350226.evil.html 23:41 <@carlarc> thats so sad 23:41 <@carlarc> didnt know giant centipedes were that strong 23:42 <@riker> not actually sure that proves whirly ones exist but i can anecdotally confirm their existence 23:43 oh i just realised 3.6 is the last stable release. 23:44 3.6.6 specifically 23:44 Also riker it doesn't have to be whirly ones specifically 23:44 is it a bad idea to be playing 3.7? am i expected to encounter crashes? 23:44 Just not-solid monsters as statues 23:44 lmfao no 23:45 It's just cutting-edge is all 23:45 If it was crashy they wouldn't release it (ideally) 23:45 not to say it won't happen, just not frequent enough to worry your head off about 23:45 <@riker> ya just in case there's an edgecase with whirly 23:45 ...also reported crashes would be a good thing in this instance 23:49 i remember when 3.6.0 came out and elbereth has been weakened. now in 3.7 unihorns no longer restore attributes. yikes! it's getting harder 23:49 Not necessarily 23:49 Just less universals to rely on => other items actually get used 23:50 yes, you're right. also reading through the changelog there are lots more details being added. i'm very impressed at the active development. 23:51 when moving, is there a strategic preference to using shift+direction or ctrl+direction? 23:51 at the same time there are aspects of various roles made more difficult 23:51 uhhh I can't really answer that lol 23:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] Umbire (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:11322 23:57 <@carlarc> but when will they buff cure blindness! 23:58 ah nice elbereth no longer erodes when scaring a monster 23:58 I'd honestly replace it with something like "spell of clearsight" 23:59 cure blindness + hallu at base, maybe provide more perks at higher skill level