00:03 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed +2 shield of reflection", on T:3012 00:06 -!- Chris_ANG has joined #hardfought 00:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Chirurgeon, on T:67078 00:08 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered the Planes, on T:67094 00:09 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 354 points, T:939, killed by a gnome lord 00:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) entered the Astral Plane, on T:67372 00:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 281 points, T:832, killed by a coyote 00:25 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:67471 00:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:67507 00:33 [hdf-us] [slshm] bobbysue (Mon Dop Fem Neu), 4005 points, T:2705, killed by a baby shimmering dragon 00:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 3499067 points, T:67582, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/o/oh6/nethack/dumplog/1639774191.nh.html 00:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 496 points, T:1483, killed by a hill orc 00:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2 points, T:22, killed by a kobold zombie 00:43 [hdf-au] [nh370] MaestroSpook (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 619 points, T:1342, killed by a gas spore's explosion 00:43 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 00:46 -!- Chris_ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:48 matrix 4 was cool 00:52 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Demonbane bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:9892, rt[1:28:55] 00:54 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Quetzalcoatl, on T:9947, rt[1:30:26] 00:59 -!- fakepass has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:00 [hdf-au] [nh370] MaestroSpook (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 676 points, T:1934, died of starvation, while fainted 01:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) averted death (killed by a giant bat), on T:2897 01:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3609 01:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Val Hum Fem Law), 2007 points, T:3010, killed by a magic missile 01:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 1900 points, T:4097, killed by an owlbear 01:17 [hdf-us] [un] woodstea23 (Arc Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:11333, rt[1:53:58] 01:24 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Nobbs (Arc Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3018 01:25 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Nobbs (Arc Hum Mal Law), 1777 points, T:3067, killed by a bolt of fire 01:26 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 01:30 !who 01:30 K2: [hdf-us] lurchy [nh370] Goldenboy [dnh] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] Arahael [evil] 01:37 -!- Sting has quit [Quit: Sting] 01:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3479 01:43 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 01:46 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 3044 points, T:4171, killed by a burning scroll 01:54 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 01:55 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 215 points, T:243, killed by a gnome 01:59 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 165 points, T:448, killed by a dwarf, while sleeping 02:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] XYS (Mon Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1306 02:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 49 points, T:187, killed by a water demon 02:06 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Nobbs (Arc Hum Mal Law) had a silver saber named Grayswandir bestowed upon him by Quetzalcoatl, on T:1930 02:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) destroyed wispofvapor's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:2133 02:19 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Nobbs (Arc Hum Mal Law), 3394 points, T:2877, killed by a wand 02:35 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:3450 02:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3549 02:36 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3549 02:40 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:44 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 2410 points, T:4208, killed by a giant mimic 02:54 -!- Sting has joined #hardfought 03:04 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:51919 03:06 -!- Sting has quit [Quit: Sting] 03:06 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) entered Gehennom, on T:51987 03:13 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:14 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had Angelslayer bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:52621 03:17 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:19 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 03:26 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 03:27 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 03:32 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +5 oilskin cloth elven helm", on T:53709 03:40 curs_mesg_suppress_suppression = FALSE; 03:40 great variable naming patr 03:52 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) wished for "blessed greased fixed +5 dragonhide speed boots", on T:54398 03:53 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:54 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:05 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) genocided black dragons, on T:54915 04:07 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:08 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Nobbs (Sam Hum Mal Cha), 6801 points, T:2149, killed by a soldier ant 04:08 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 04:15 can someone please spare a dragonabane for the evilhack swap chest? TIA 04:15 is that a joke, or is there actually a swapchest in evilhack 04:16 hehe i wish 04:16 actually a swapchest would break roguelike purity for local play 04:16 people would abuse it like they do in the tournament and this is why we can't have nice things 04:17 kidding aside, i've always thought it was a fun concept but way too OP i guess 04:17 its also not roguelike according to berlin interpretation :v 04:17 it would be a mere, a common, a shabby rogueLITE 04:18 * stenno spits on the floor 04:18 rougelite 04:18 yeah i'm sure. i mean, i have no idea what that is but rogue is one of the first games i ever played and yeah it kinda goes against everything it is (single player) 04:18 aw 04:18 rebatela: well the issue would be that you could take items from a previous session 04:19 from a previous game 04:19 nethack is like a solitaire for me, but i do like the community and am guilty of watching other people play/rooting for them etc. but i don't really get the tournament thing even. i like competing against the game and that's it 04:20 it's not really a previous session. i mean, you could always save in rogue. just that death is perm 04:20 so i can drop a good item in the swapchest, then start a new game, and take that item 04:20 well, right 04:20 after you died 04:20 and people definitely did that 04:20 that's what i meant 04:20 especially when you could put WoW's in 04:20 lul 04:20 like i said, this is why we can't have nice things ;) 04:21 oh actually you're the guy who would know this 04:21 remember that video of some epic ascension really fast but they had stashed a WoW in bones? 04:21 wished for tin of dragon meats etc. 04:22 it used to be on yt 04:22 for real speedrunning i assume y'all turn bones off?? 04:22 yep 04:23 well, it wasn't possible to turn off bones for quite some time 04:23 it was one of the faster ascensions for a long time 04:23 but it obviously doesn't coutn 04:23 i think adeons 1h15-ish run actually found bones but ignored them 04:24 oh i see. i didn't realize the option thing was new 04:24 i personally would only accept a speedrun with bones turned off, but thats my personal opinion 04:24 well 'new' in the sense of nethack new :D 04:24 ha! exactly 04:24 it was introduced on NAO after the people starting running like a dozen instances of a certain bot at the same time, must've been around 2015 04:25 this guy did it on purpose though 04:25 made a stash with a full WoW and kit 04:25 oh bones stuffing was always considered legit for gametime runs 04:25 dunno what the meta is here 04:25 then dfv to the stash and wished for all the dragon meat tins 04:25 yep 04:26 that was just a normal strat, billdacat used bones stuffing as did maud 04:26 yeah it was maud i'm thinking of 04:26 thats why the WR was by 'speedycat7' and not 'billdacat' :D 04:26 thinking of maud makes you forget.. 04:26 i think nowadays the accepted meta is bonesless but scumming for T:1 wow 04:27 i think luxidream theorized a bones-stuffed realtime speedrun in ~15 minutes or so 04:27 something insane 04:27 i think i found what i was talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xgxDSizgr4 04:28 setseed is yet another category... nht has a 235-turns unnethack ascension with setseed :D 04:28 was it un or ace, one of the two 04:29 yeah bones stuffing for gametime runs was the accepted strat 04:29 be fun to just happen to be playing when that's going on... 04:30 eeh it was just different 04:30 the current state of realtime running is infinitely better than it was, thanks to luxicoaching 04:30 also luxi invented a lot of new strats, and threw old paradigms out of the window 04:31 no i was just saying to be randomly playing a game that was bones stuffed for someone else 04:31 oh! 04:31 GROUNDSCORE 04:31 this would almost never happen 04:31 isn't it the same odds anyone playing gets the level? 04:31 nowadays, bones stuffing is not really possible anymore 04:31 its complicated 04:32 to mitigate griefing, bones are nowadays loaded into bones pools 04:32 well, i find my own bones in evilhack all the time... it's not too much of a stretch to think of doing it on purpose 04:32 oh, well that's good 04:32 but the problem is that you need a way to do it reliably 04:32 yeah i remember some trolling on rgrn/nao back in the day 04:32 its like, there are 10 pools, and depending on which milliseconds % 10 you start, you will get a certain pool 04:32 it was not always like that 04:33 gotcha 04:33 you can still do bones stuffing. but you need to do X times as much when there are X pool slots 04:33 its not feasable anymore 04:33 but in a variant on a smaller server where it's only a handful of us actually playing? 04:33 ^ this 04:33 doesn't change it 04:33 you might still not hit your bones for a very long time 04:33 if you find your bones on evilhack all the times, it means nobody but you is playing evilhack :-} 04:34 ok. well not looking to argue. BUT I FIND MY OWN EVILHACK BONES ALL THE TIME 04:34 hehe 04:34 no there's like 5 of us 04:34 you find your own bones all the time, but you don't always find bones guaranteed 04:34 I think it's still exploitable but you need to adjust your strategies and it won't be as effective as before pool 04:34 game is fucking awesome, btw. and more people should play. PLAY WIZARD PLEASE 04:34 (best bones) 04:35 back in the days it was a flat 1/3 chance that a bones file gets loaded 04:35 (oslt) 04:35 so the gametime runner would wait on DL19, then the stuffer would leave bones on 20 and they would immediately go down, loading the file with a 1/3 chance 04:36 oh wow 04:36 yeah i mean the deep bones almost always leave them i think is how it works now 04:36 or at least it should 04:36 it was always like that. the deeper, the more likely to generate bones 04:36 like when one of us dies to a demon lord, someone invetiably comes across it (it's usually me dying) 04:37 actually there are 3 gehennom deaths now in evil that no one has come across (and I just entered gehennom) so this should be fun 04:37 maybe hold off on the wishes 04:38 gehennom bones tend to be juicy :3 04:38 but also dangerous 04:38 yeh well it's fun because you have to find the spectre 04:38 and they have the hitpoints and all the armor (and the boh they will loot and drink full healings, make wishes etc.) 04:39 fight* the spectre 04:39 that reminds me i still have a really silly game going in evilhack 04:39 didn't continue it since tnnt 04:39 so they may HAVE wands of death/wishing etc. but they will be cashed when you finally kill em 04:40 this one https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3738 04:41 polymorph is what i do lol 04:41 speaking of which, i need to wish for spellbook. i gotta decide what i'm gonna do re:dragonbane. It would be killer to get it from god 04:42 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 04:42 i should probably just wish for it. if it takes 3 wishes, it takes 3 wishes. But imagine going for it 3 times and getting denied? Happened twice last game 04:43 slips through your hands 04:43 such a tease 04:44 wasting wishes because of artifact generation limit is always super painful lol 04:45 yeah 04:46 well, the rules changed in evil recently... artifacts you didn't wish for no longer count 04:46 oh nice 04:46 but you also aren't guaranteed the 2nd one anymore... it's 50/50 after the first 04:46 that sounds more sensible 04:46 oh.. 04:46 well thats fair 04:46 yeah 04:46 fair fair 04:46 it sorta balances out 04:55 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Nobbs (Sam Hum Mal Law), 19814 points, T:7074, killed by a wand 04:57 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:58 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 05:04 you can still get scrwed... i mean i could wish for it 5 times in a row and get denied. It's not as if it becomes MORE likely each time you fail. It's always a coinflip 05:05 do you already have everything you need? can you live without wishes? 05:06 even with coinflips, the intuitive thing is 'well it's gotta come out tails because law of averages bla bla bla" it's still 50/50 after 10 heads in a row 05:06 i definitely don't have everything i need 05:06 Im alive 05:06 so i gues yes, i can live without. Helmets are taken care of, boots are taken care of 05:06 just need gloves and acid resistance 05:07 and staff of matter (hello, god!?!?!) and spellbook of polymorph 05:07 news for nerds, staff that matters 05:08 slashdot? 05:08 that's one of the first websites i ever knew about 05:08 is that what that's from? 05:13 -!- ChrisANG has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:13 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 05:14 OMG staff that matters 05:14 bwahahaha 05:15 * rebatela is a little slow 05:15 >_>" 05:16 yeah well even though with HOB this giant has a wopping 23 wisdom, i'm not casting poly etc. without that staff 05:16 or a gaint-sized robe 05:16 giant 05:16 it was not the funniest of wordplays i have to admit 05:17 oh no i liked it a lot when i got it 05:17 i was busy trying to place the actual quote 05:18 i bet 3/4 of this board is familiar w/slashdot though which is crazy initself 05:19 it wouldn't be funny anywhere else for numerous reasons 05:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Bar Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3027 05:20 if/when i do get it i'm going to name it that 05:20 i think they are the same material each game, but i haven't memorized it 05:21 rebatela: should i blow your mind 05:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Bar Orc Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3252 05:21 rebatela: the co-founder of slashdot is actually the admin of NAO, dtype 05:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Bar Orc Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3301 05:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Bar Orc Fem Cha) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:3323 05:22 no shit? 05:22 no shit 05:22 * rebatela 's mind blows 05:22 actually thats not quite correct i guess 05:23 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Bar Orc Fem Cha), 2866 points, T:3758, killed by a dog 05:23 ok scratch that, that was not correct 05:24 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Nobbs (Sam Hum Mal Law), 1579 points, T:1033, killed by a pony, while unconscious from rotten food 05:24 well, it wouldn't exactly shock me if some slashdot dork plays nethack... 05:24 rebatela: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geeknet here drew streib gets mentioned 05:24 its closely related 05:25 VA linux acquired slashdot in 2000 05:25 lincoln sudbury high school where those kids made the first hack is like 10 miles from here 05:26 $$ rich ass towns (i'm sure these were nice fellas. just sayin ) 05:26 old nethack money 05:30 i'm reading the nethack wiki. So, if the rogue dude had just given them the code we would probably never have nethack... 05:32 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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AFAIK they only enforced copyright later, so in a way it went the best possible way. 06:03 <@carlarc> well i do but not why this is giving errors 06:04 "*magic lamp*" - what is the preceding set of the first *? 06:04 <@carlarc> oh the < 06:04 <@carlarc> righ 06:04 yeah i played rogue and then hack/nethack/moria as a kid. it was pretty fascinating looking back because the "net" was really just usenet and ftp for the sources and spoilers at some point 06:04 <@carlarc> ty 06:05 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 06:05 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at her by some watery tart, on T:3358 06:05 i was dying laughing when i played hack the first time and saw you had a pet 06:07 rogue was a mindfuck though. the whole permadeath thing. It's crazy to have a solid game going like that and lose it all. We're all used to it now, but it's such a FU 06:08 i save scummed forever playing nethack as a kid. i assumed everyone did 06:10 funny to think about because i would never do that in a million years now even playing locally. 06:10 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:10 i never save scummed 06:10 i also didnt really play local much ever 06:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Rog Orc Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 silver dragon scale mail", on T:4474 06:10 yeah i mean like if it was 1989 06:11 wait how old r u 06:11 lol 06:11 i was 10 in 1989 06:11 :o 06:11 i was -2 06:12 oh god can we still be friends ? don't ruin my xmas 06:12 i have older friends than you :P 06:12 i don't feel old? 06:12 :) well that's reassuring 06:13 -!- Sting has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:16 -!- Sting has joined #hardfought 06:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Rog Orc Fem Cha) had Grimtooth bestowed upon her by Kos, on T:4855 06:18 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Ran Cen Fem Neu) killed Scorpius, on T:26022 06:18 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Ran Cen Fem Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:26022 06:20 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Ran Cen Fem Neu) changed form for the first time, becoming a water nymph, on T:26248 06:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3449 06:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3577 06:27 -!- Sting has quit [Quit: Sting] 06:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed wink42's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:5981 06:29 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Ran Cen Fem Neu) refused to give up The Longbow of Diana to Orion, on T:26583 06:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3648 06:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Singhend's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:3648 06:31 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Ran Cen Fem Neu) averted death (killed by a purple worm), on T:26597 06:32 <@carlarc> oh my god 06:32 <@carlarc> why is this a thing 06:34 <@carlarc> why can the quest leader demand the artifact back 06:34 <@carlarc> even at pious! 06:35 <@carlarc> and why can this loser hobo in the middle of a forest summon gold dragons! 06:35 many evilhack questions 06:36 carlarc evilhack tracks past sins, check #conduct 06:36 [hdf-eu] [nh343] Nobbs (Val Hum Fem Law), 16183 points, T:4016, quit 06:36 you will need to kill Orion at some point 06:37 <@carlarc> i've gravely abused my alignment, apparently 06:37 <@carlarc> maaybe i've accidentally sacrificed a few centaurs and pissed off then killed one or two aligned priests, what's the big deal? don't trust me with your legendary artifact? 06:37 <@carlarc> surely some white unicorns on the altar will do the trick 06:38 you can't wipe out past sins... 06:39 gotta kill Orion at some point, otherwise the bell of opening won't work on the vibrating square 06:39 <@carlarc> great (sarcrastic) 06:40 and when you kill Orion, you will need those white unicorns to appease your god again ;-) 06:40 <@carlarc> apparently he has no mr or resistances, so that's nice 06:40 yeah, it's not hard to kill Orion 06:41 <@carlarc> gold dragons though 06:41 who summoned those?? 06:41 great for DSM though 06:41 <@carlarc> orion did 06:41 ah :-) 06:41 <@carlarc> dunno how to deal with it 06:41 he does have some nasty spells 06:42 <@carlarc> how do you know this 06:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Rog Orc Fem Cha) polymorphed her first item, on T:7460 06:42 I splatted an evil ranger myself recently 06:43 <@carlarc> oh nice 06:43 if you can somehow join #evilhack channel... 06:43 <@carlarc> gimme an irc tutorial and i'll try 06:44 heh I'm not great at irc myself, I muddle along 06:44 <@carlarc> oh actually i just joined your ranks 06:44 yay! 06:44 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Ran Cen Fem Neu), 150425 points, T:27107, killed by an ogre, while frozen by a monster's gaze 06:45 rip :-( 06:45 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 06:45 <@carlarc> classic, walked into an e 06:46 <@carlarc> no excuse for it too, had longbow telepathy lol 06:46 ye olde YASD 06:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wink42 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1004 points, T:3129, killed by a giant bat 06:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Rog Orc Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:8061 06:56 rip carlarc. I was watching you play earlier and talking about it in #evilhack 06:58 i play without reflection a lot and one of these floating eyes is bound to get me, but i actually keep them alive to get telepathy back post-murder (just in case i ever killed a peaceful hypothetically) 07:02 why rebatela? orc shamans etc etc also provide telepathy 07:02 well i don't kill them either 07:02 i hate losing it. and the more of those guys around the less i have to kill them all at once 07:03 ah ok, sounds like you lose telepathy quite often ;-) 07:03 tin of floating eye meat in my back pocket at all times too 07:03 it tends to happen. but i'm not the shopkeeper with the invisibility phobia 07:04 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 7876 points, T:10641, killed by a wand 07:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Rog Orc Fem Cha) attained the rank of Pilferer, on T:9810 07:16 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 07:20 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 07:25 <@carlarc> wtf do evilhack healers not start with poison res 07:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 2846 points, T:6364, killed by a hill orc 07:28 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Rog Orc Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:12391 07:28 NH3 commit 420d121f939686f2bdc734038119b9cf932e1f3a should use --Tab!-- mode in curses 07:29 since that's what it was designed for 07:29 imo 07:29 healers get it at level 3, no idea why 07:29 must be a prot racket nerf? :D 07:29 anti-paci? that's mean 07:30 stenno: protracket should be minimally affected 07:30 you usually don't see poison monsters by that period 07:30 this almost exclusively screws over paci 07:31 paci will be XL 3 or 4 after oracle though 07:31 is paci even a thing in evilhack 07:31 how would they be XL4? 07:31 reading a discworld novel before the major consultation 07:31 ah, that's new in 3.6+ 07:32 indeed 07:33 I should do another 4k paci attempt at some point 07:33 my last attempt died on Astral 07:33 pain 07:33 that whole game was pain 07:33 then you are a sibling in pain with me because thats what happened with my best paci too 07:33 my nutrition drained at like a 5+ rate per turn because of a bug 07:34 lmao 07:34 it made the whole game a huge pain to play 07:34 sounds like it, yeah 07:34 <@carlarc> thats a weird bug 07:34 my reaction to finally dying on astral was basically "well, fuck that game anyway" 07:34 <@carlarc> how'd you get around it? 07:34 [hdf-us] [nh4] Nabru (nabru) (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 19781 points, T:458, quit 07:34 one of the most frustrating games I've ever played 07:35 @carlarc constant trips out of Gehennom to pray 07:35 and when that eventually failed, wishing for horn of plenty 07:36 and when that failed, I don't remember 07:36 with paci its especially so that the later game might be SUCH a drag 07:36 part of paci is really just keep going in the face of nasty grind 07:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Rog Orc Fem Cha) destroyed lurchy's ghost, the former Thaumaturge, on T:13104 07:37 worst part of paci is dealing with the stupid pet AI 07:37 I like using pets in NH, but man they can be dumb as rocks sometimes 07:37 there's a reason I've spent a lot of effort in fh trying to make them less tedious to use :P 07:40 <@carlarc> yooo i got the elbereth consultation 07:40 <@carlarc> shit, now i have to learn how to use elbereth 07:40 nice 07:40 <@carlarc> fiq is a very dangerous variant 07:40 <@carlarc> it's so clean and full of qol it gets hard to play anywhere else 07:41 <@carlarc> i loved playing knight there 07:41 i have seen that fiqhack commits get pulled into vanilla every now and then 07:44 so I accidently got the coaligned priest in mine town angry 07:44 how odes this affect me? lost protection? 07:44 angry god? (I teleported away) 07:45 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Hea Hob Fem Neu) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:2926 07:45 fiq: I wish pets in other variants/vanilla were better (more like your game) 07:45 i don't have the patience for them 07:45 i've been coming around and using them more, but early game it's so hard to do 07:49 <@carlarc> i've been thinking about changing my pets from cats to dogs because cats don't deserve my getting so mad at them 07:50 pet hearding has already improved 07:50 it was even worse back then 07:56 -!- CosmicDJ_ has joined #hardfought 07:58 -!- CosmicDJ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:58 <@carlarc> wtf my cat starved 07:58 <@carlarc> how could i have foreseen this 07:58 .-. 07:59 <@carlarc> messages 07:59 <@carlarc> damn! 08:00 * stenno whimpers 08:02 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wink42 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 473 points, T:1439, killed by a gnome lord 08:02 <@carlarc> this good? 08:02