00:09 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 00:11 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Ith Fem Una) changed form for the first time by mimicking a pile of gold, on T:6712 00:24 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 00:52 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Snickersnee bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:14424 01:14 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Ith Fem Una), 30994 points, T:11716, killed by a mountain dwarf, while sleeping 01:22 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) genocided master mind flayers, on T:94154 01:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Mon Inc Mal Law) became the Sage of Law, on T:51202 01:30 [hdf-us] [evil] Mosh (Pri Dwa Fem Law) destroyed Charon, on T:94462 01:33 -!- cathartes has quit [Quit: fly away] 01:40 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 01:46 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Mon Inc Mal Law) wished for "blessed ring of conflict", on T:51324 02:01 -!- Umbire has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law), 273 points, T:501, poisoned by a little dart 02:07 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law), 563 points, T:1082, killed by an imp, while praying 02:12 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) was given Werebane, on T:44647 02:16 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a pair of boxing gloves entrusted to him by Kos, on T:8451 02:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1259 02:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:2752 02:28 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) had Excalibur thrown at them by some watery tart, on T:3085 02:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:5105 02:44 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 02:53 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha) had a gold broadsword entrusted to him by Kos, on T:10950 02:55 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 02:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Woman-at-arms, on T:6440 03:05 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 16862 points, T:12092, quit 03:19 -!- Sgeo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:136 04:00 -!- evh has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:03 -!- raisse has quit [Quit: Suddenly, Raisse disappears out of sight.] 04:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 04:07 -!- tjw_ has joined #hardfought 04:10 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 194 points, T:512, killed by a fox 04:11 -!- tjw has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:23 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Elf Fem Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:1558 04:24 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Elf Fem Cha), 3369 points, T:1748, killed by a metroid 04:29 -!- Sting has joined #hardfought 04:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Mon Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:10083 04:39 -!- Sting has quit [Quit: Sting] 04:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 20096 points, T:10456, killed by a gargoyle 04:49 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 04:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Hermes, on T:52371 04:53 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:55 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha), 585 points, T:1701, killed by a wererat 05:04 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 05:22 -!- amateurhour has joined #hardfought 05:25 [hdf-eu] [gh] mobileuser (Arc Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a curved sword on an altar, on T:3199 05:32 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 05:33 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Client Quit] 05:33 -!- spicyCebolla has joined #hardfought 05:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed PetraKelly's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:2120 05:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed torpedovariant's ghost, the former Skirmisher, on T:2145 05:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:2414 05:51 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) destroyed nurdglaw's ghost, the former Investigator, on T:2498 06:09 -!- stella is now known as stenna 06:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 472 points, T:1757, killed by a bat 06:11 -!- stenna is now known as stella 06:18 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a large shield entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:1128 06:24 DSM has extra effects :O 06:25 :O 06:25 what variant 06:27 the variant which calls itself vanilla 06:27 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/ef1eeed7550e38fa1e4ff0ef608f3c8b55eaa950 06:27 oh hey Amy, didnt' recognise you there 06:28 what did gold do before 06:29 hallu res is not much of an addition tbh 06:29 ohh, this is in vanilla right? (NetHack/NetHack repo so I would assume so) 06:29 this is cool 06:30 very fast speed means same speed as speed boots (and not stacking with speed boots?) 06:30 very fast doesn't stack with other very fast 06:30 just double checked the actual code :) 06:30 this is a cool change 06:30 gj paxed 06:30 the only way to get a better 'very fast' is changing your base movement rate 06:31 which can be done by polymorphing to fast monsters 06:31 ah, but getting speed doesnt matter with speed boots right? 06:31 correct 06:31 good, then my assumptions are correct :) 06:33 iirc 'fast' means each turn you have a 1/3 chance of an additional 12 movement points, 'very fast' gies you a 2/3 chance of that each turn (same 2/3 whether you were 'fast' before or not), normal base rate is 12 points per turn and every action costs 12 points 06:33 so these extra points add on to whatever your base rate is 06:34 if you're a polyform with movement rate of 24 you get 24 points some turns and 36 points other turns 06:34 <@7;> So you can sometimes get 2 moves a turn and 5 moves in two turns other times? 06:35 think so yea 06:35 altho for that you'd need to be a warhorse or something 06:35 titan or minotaur is more practical 06:35 mino has base rate of 15 iirc 06:36 which is similar to 'fast' human 06:36 but very fast mino has average speed of 23 06:39 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3965 06:46 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 06:46 blue DSM is now my favorite 06:46 ooh but level-drain is also great 06:47 oh wow those are great 06:47 wonder if you can exploit stoning resistance with rubber chicken strat 06:47 stenno, I like the free action 06:47 frees up a ring slot 06:47 yeah 06:47 oh i didnt notice the drain res 06:47 which one was that 06:47 black was drain 06:47 great change 06:47 i already closed the commit tab 06:47 ahhh ok 06:47 neat 06:47 orange was free action 06:48 this makes "waiting for the dragons in castle" more interesting 06:56 i dunno if its enough to impact 'standard' play a lot, but its a nice addition for conduct play where non-standard DSMs start becoming more relevant 06:56 like with vegans 06:56 could affect like wizards 06:56 since they already start with MR 06:56 then first initial wish could be !SDSM 06:57 and check castle scales 06:57 especially if you find a "oR 06:57 if i had an early wish as wiz i'd probably still go for SDSM tbh 06:57 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) made his first wish - "blessed greased +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:5695 06:57 *unless* its post-soko and i have "oR yes 06:58 as everyone knows free action is completely worthless so orange dsm is useless 06:58 shame 06:58 nani 07:01 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon him by Chih Sung-tzu, on T:33757 07:01 as someone who has died to orcus shades on wr- turncount pace 07:01 i agree 07:01 free ation useless 07:01 free action* 07:06 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) changed form for the first time, becoming a werejackal, on T:5819 07:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful little dog, on T:2804 07:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) performed her first genocide (class a), on T:3303 07:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3515 07:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3559 07:22 missed that, announcy is down 07:23 I think RDSM loses out here 07:23 gold is the most pointless one I think 07:23 hallu resistance is not really useful 07:24 gold is also a light source isn't it? 07:24 oh 07:24 so gold was just light source before now its also hallu res 07:25 permalights are actually pretty nice to have 07:25 imo 07:25 didnt know about that 07:25 they didnt used to be in 3.4 I think 07:25 or maybe I never tried it in 3.4 :P 07:25 yeah especially on like a knight or whatever that needs the light for shenanis 07:25 there was no gold dragons in 3.4 07:25 well that explains it 07:25 thanks paxed and great work on the commit 07:26 paxed is there some agreement in the dev team that you get to do all the hype commits? :P 07:26 hmm, I should report a bug... 07:26 the curses inventory does not update properly when emptying a bag fo tricks 07:27 maybe he's just cooler than everyone else amateurhour 07:27 and has the best ideas 07:30 * paxed surreptitiously shoves ideas from the variants into his todo file 07:31 lul 07:31 hey paxed did u see my email i sent to nethack@alt.org 07:31 i also messaged you in #nethack but you didnt reply 07:31 i are working. worky worky work 07:31 I think a popular one that's in a lot of variants is BUC testing container contents by dropping on an altar 07:32 paxed: ok but did u ban y alts 07:32 my* 07:32 but can't remember if that's in vanilla already or not 07:32 if its in vanilla its news to me 07:32 also pls put it in vanilla 07:33 amateurhour, that would be amazing 07:33 I probably shouldnt say this loud but 07:33 it would reduce chances to blow up bags of holding 07:33 cause thats one of the times I some time do it 07:33 stella: don't remember. if so, it was years ago 07:33 when putting stuff back into teh boh 07:33 paxed: ok then it wasnt you 07:33 great stuff paxed 07:33 happened like 1-2 weeks ago 07:35 lol banned 07:35 i haven't done anything in at least a couple months 07:35 I bet it was K2 07:35 shouldn't have switched teams in tnnt #rekt 07:35 it's been all worky worky work 07:35 -!- Terexen has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:37 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2282 points, T:2417, killed by a hill orc, while praying 07:37 FIQ: see dsm effects? seem familiar? 07:38 my new fruitname on HDF will be ${jndi:ldap:// 07:38 haha 07:39 stenno, add something related to Log4j 07:39 ;P 07:39 how many CVEs are there for it now, 3? 07:40 at least 3 I think 07:40 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had a glass short sword entrusted to him by Manannan Mac Lir, on T:6727 07:40 good way to get banned :) 07:40 :v 07:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) stole 9836 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Narodnaja's liquor emporium, on T:4088 07:42 my actual fruit name is Habanero 07:43 !who 07:43 K2: [hdf-us] tinklebear [nh370] lurchy [nh370] Alasnuyo [dnh] carlarc [evil] rebatela [evil] ligang [evil] | [hdf-eu] No current players | [hdf-au] No current players 07:45 I use a different fruit name for each variant 07:45 -!- evh has joined #hardfought 07:46 370-hdf is updated on au and eu servers. i'll have to wait for us server 07:48 my choice for WDSM wouldn't be slow digestion but would be a frost walker-y thing like in evilhack 07:48 K2: did you ban my alts on NAO 07:48 effectively a slightly better water walking 07:48 it wasn't paxed or dtype 07:48 i allege that you did it 07:48 it was me 07:48 i hacked the mainframe just to ban your alts 07:48 !! >:o 07:48 you bastard!! 07:49 nice leet hax0r skils tho 07:49 impressive 07:49 hugh basterdes 07:49 yea!! 07:49 http://bash.org/?34776 07:52 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Ith Fem Una), 451 points, T:1168, killed by a hobbit 07:54 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Ith Fem Una) murdered Hecubus, her faithful lesser homunculus, on T:26 07:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Pri Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (class h), on T:41808 07:58 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Pri Elf Mal Cha) genocided class L, on T:41809 08:00 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Ith Fem Una), 379 points, T:711, killed by a magic missile 08:00 <@carlarc> lmfao i've been too used to having MR so i died to my own bounce 08:10 !role 08:10 nabru: notdnethack priest 08:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:6512 08:12 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Asmodeus, on T:42857 08:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] albravo (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 27555 points, T:13135, killed by a red naga, while frozen by a floating eye's gaze 08:16 -!- rebatela has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 13550 points, T:6975, killed by an invisible stalker 08:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Juiblex, on T:44503 08:37 rld bridge down probably 08:37 like 8 years ago 08:42 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 08:45 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha) had Dirge gifted to him by the grace of Manannan Mac Lir, on T:9044 08:50 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mad Hum Mal Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:7570 08:50 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Law) completed Sokoban, on T:13333 08:52 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Pri Elf Mal Cha) bribed Baalzebub with 8 zorkmids for safe passage, on T:45716 08:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] albravo (Bar Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3751 08:54 [hdf-us] [nh370] albravo (Bar Orc Mal Cha) destroyed lurchy's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:3751 08:56 -!- rebatela has joined #hardfought 08:57 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Law), 34328 points, T:14381, killed by a juggernaut, while praying 08:57 -!- Semilg has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:59 <@stenno> test 08:59 <@stenno> i just was in the wrong channel 08:59 <@stenno> discord is confusing 08:59 woah 08:59 stenno 08:59 on shitcord 08:59 pog 09:00 welcome to the surveilled side 09:00 <@stenno> also rld hilights myself 09:00 <@stenno> whenever i type something so thats annoying lul 09:00 rip 09:00 i think u can get a filter for that 09:00 Helps if you change your base Discord name to something different. 09:00 yeah i guess 09:00 Or that, can do that. 09:01 no i am stenno 09:01 yeah for me its not an issue cuz im Joanna on discord 09:01 and someone else has that nick here 09:01 I know. 09:01 you are not the only person here Umbire 09:01 You do both have the same color currently, but I had directed that at stenno initially. 09:01 stenno for instance might not have known this 09:02 ...which is why I was... 09:02 Ok. 09:02 wait i shitpost from discord all the time 09:02 he probaby did know that 09:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mad Hum Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:8777 09:02 Anyway yeah, the ways roguelikes is set up, you do have to do a bit of guessing which corresponds to what at first I'd think 09:02 i think the most confusing one is #nethack 09:03 which is not #nethack 09:03 discord is just super confusing for me lol 09:03 i am constantly disoriented 09:03 * stella can't actually remember which IRC chan maps to rl discord's '#nethack' 09:03 i joined again a few months ago to chat with nomiisama 09:03 i vaguely remember them 09:03 ##nethack-discord 09:03 how are they doin 09:03 Hi Ammy. 09:03 ah yeah thats it 09:03 streaming dcss 09:04 i asked how not what :P 09:04 I tried dcss recently it's pretty cool 09:04 Did you now. 09:04 this must be a german/english translation confusion thing 09:04 happens a lot when i ask a german, in english, 'how are you doing' 09:04 and then the answer i get is what they are doing 09:04 lol 09:05 idk how to react when people actually respond with how they're doing 09:05 what else would they respond with 09:05 'alright, you?' is the standard response 09:05 ok lets try this 09:05 amateurhour: how are you doing? 09:06 alright, you? 09:06 not bad thanks 09:06 see that's how it should go 09:06 genki desu 09:06 ok wait so 09:06 it's a greeting not an invitation to talk about how bad your back is or some shit 09:06 what part of that made you think 09:06 :) 09:06 that either of us was lying 09:06 and we're actually not alright or not not bad 09:06 also lol @ bad back tho 09:07 we talked in private so i don't really feel like sharing, sorry :P 09:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Cha), 2624 points, T:1712, killed by a dwarf 09:07 i think NetSysFire was the person who hooked us up 09:07 stenno: you dont have to tell me all their secrets just a 'yea they are doin well' 09:07 or better still 09:07 'they seem to be doing well' 09:07 doesnt even need to be true cuz you just think they seem to be doin good 09:08 their streaming is doing well 09:08 could easily be wrong 09:08 thats cool 09:09 i think its like when the brits are like "you alright?" 09:09 its a greeting not a question >:o 09:10 "awwight m8" 09:10 "yeh urrite buddie" 09:10 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed amulet of reflection", on T:46871 09:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 298 points, T:886, killed by a small mimic 09:13 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Ith Fem Una), 6074 points, T:6349, suffocated by the water elemental of Camaxtli 09:14 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 415 points, T:875, killed by a giant bat 09:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 51 points, T:258, killed by a fox 09:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] albravo (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 2928 points, T:4895, killed by an Elvenking 09:17 'sup' 09:17 -!- Bartol has joined #hardfought 09:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 151 points, T:735, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 09:17 stenno: nm u 09:17 stenno how's the ttyrec player coming along 09:18 K2: it went exceptionally well until Demo suggested adding an auto-resizing feature 09:18 aah 09:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 93 points, T:253, killed by a falling rock 09:18 what followed was a week of depression and anger 09:18 LOL 09:18 rip 09:18 jeez i need more caffeine 09:18 not sure tea is enough, might have to go outside and buy espresso with real monehy 09:18 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Law), 66 points, T:265, killed by Mr. Annootok, the shopkeeper 09:18 stenno did you find a solution? 09:18 so now i consider dropping the current terminal frontend library i am using in favor of a more barebones library 09:19 there are some nasty solutions 09:19 nast-tee 09:19 but its a hobby project, and i want to have a good solution, not a nust-tea solution 09:19 nutella 09:19 yes 09:20 K2: the actual bug is with the ttyrec implementation used on HDF 09:20 if that would write the terminal dimensions into the ttyrec, that would be nice 09:20 that would be dgl 09:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 201 points, T:639, killed by an iron ball collision 09:20 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Pri Elf Mal Cha) destroyed Vlad the Impaler, on T:47532 09:21 right 09:21 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Pri Elf Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:47533 09:21 it would mean the same for NAO, unless its using a version of dgl i'm not aware of 09:21 it _should_ write CSI 8 n ; n t 09:21 dgl is bad software 09:21 im shaking my head at dtype about it regularly 09:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] doesnotcompute (Wiz Orc Fem Cha), 216 points, T:663, killed by a boiling potion 09:21 * stella has ventured into the sauce 09:21 its not pretty 09:21 dtype prob doesnt care 09:21 lol 09:22 au cointrare 09:22 he enjoys being mocked about it 09:22 submit a patch for dgl stenno 09:22 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had a large shield entrusted to her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:19792 09:22 K2: sure, which repo? 09:22 one sec 09:22 its a one-liner, more or less, i checked it out already 09:22 but i have no clue about C, i only know where it gets its values and what to write 09:23 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 102 points, T:418, killed by a crossbow bolt 09:23 https://github.com/NHTangles/dgamelaunch 09:23 ah right, thx 09:23 that was the one that Demo showed me too 09:24 [hdf-us] [evil] ligang (Kni Hum Mal Cha), 21014 points, T:10582, burned by molten lava 09:24 a cool thing about hdf ttyrecs is that it writes the player and the version and server as the first frame 09:24 so at some point in the future i can parse that 09:25 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 134 points, T:429, killed by a jackal 09:25 woop 09:25 also u want something backwards compatible with old ttyrecs if the format were to ever change 09:25 cause lets be real who doesnt sit down sometimes during their lunch break and watch old tariru runs? 09:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wink42 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 1277 points, T:2572, killed by a land mine 09:26 me 09:26 Demo: true 09:26 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Pri Elf Mal Cha) wished for "blessed spellbook of finger of death", on T:47544 09:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:1729 09:29 now the question, should the terminal sizes be 32bit unsigned little endian 09:29 i guess they should 09:29 afaik possible terminal sizes have be greatly increased 09:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 815 points, T:2235, killed by a kobold lord 09:31 [hdf-us] [slshm] lurchy (Nec Vam Mal Cha), 16 points, T:102, killed by a sewer rat 09:31 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:2702 09:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) murdered his faithful kitten, on T:69 09:32 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 137 points, T:885, killed by a newt 09:32 actually hmm 09:33 [hdf-eu] [nh370] wink42 (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 0 points, T:3, burned by molten lava 09:33 i should probably stick to the vt100 standard 09:37 !tell FIQ "If a peaceful monster would spawn in Sokoban, it is generated hostile instead. Thus, it is safe to kill unknown monsters that are blocking your boulder movements." So how does FIQHack handle unicorns in that case? 09:37 FIQ shall be duly informed at the first opportunity, Umbire. 09:40 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 09:42 implementing terminal auto resizing gives me a good reason to drop the shitty xterm.js so thats good 09:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1 09:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] albravo (Bar Orc Mal Cha), 488 points, T:2092, killed by a gnome zombie 10:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 7071 points, T:4015, killed by a soldier ant 10:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] samiam (Arc Hum Mal Neu), 283 points, T:1099, killed by a gnome 10:04 -!- Bartol60 has joined #hardfought 10:04 -!- Bartol has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:05 -!- Bartol60 is now known as Bartol 10:07 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 10:07 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) had a steel etched helmet entrusted to him by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:41726 10:08 -!- Bartol has quit [Client Quit] 10:08 stenno: what did i hook you up to? 10:08 -!- Bartol has joined #hardfought 10:08 nomiisama 10:09 -!- Bartol is now known as andbartol 10:09 or am i misremembering? 10:09 -!- andbartol is now known as Bartol 10:11 you might be, that name doesnt ring a bell 10:13 -!- Bartol has quit [Changing host] 10:13 -!- Bartol has joined #hardfought 10:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Mon Hum Mal Neu), 194187 points, T:32992, petrified by a cockatrice corpse 10:16 !lastgame pescepalla 10:16 qt: Message from spicyCebolla at 2021-12-18 14:17 EST: and stella did y'all see this new option /set logger.file.color_lines 10:16 qt: [hdf-eu] https://eu.hardfought.org/userdata/p/pescepalla/nethack/dumplog/1639670430.nh.html 10:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) stole 9943 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Kanturk's second-hand bookstore, on T:1354 10:18 spicyCebolla: no I haven't, that inserts color codes in the files in ~/.weechat/logs? if so idk if I would like that, it would make it harder to read them in vim etc 10:18 RIP pescepalla 10:18 i don't even log IRC so its pointless for me 10:19 makes literally no difference to anything 10:19 you're missing out on a lot of great 'j'accuse' opportunities 10:20 that sort of activity is exactly why i decided on this no-logging policy :P 10:20 hmm, stella, today you said you were eating an orange. but on Jan 22, 2019 at 06:58 UTC, you stated "idk i dont like orange" 10:20 lmao 10:20 really? you feel you couldn't resist using it for evil? 10:21 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 5423 points, T:6174, killed by a dingo, while fainted from lack of food 10:21 it might also be partly due to a traumatic event in my teens involving reading back all the IRC logs after a friend killed himself 10:21 u can guess what he talked about in those logs 10:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:3271 10:21 :( 10:21 it just dawned on me that if i want to contribute to dgl, i actually have to set it up and get it running 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Venus, on T:3230 10:22 stenno: what do you want to contribute to dgl 10:22 stenno: its a pain to do lol trust me 10:22 writing terminal dimensions into ttyrec 10:22 stella: yeah so i heard.. 10:22 -!- Sgeo has joined #hardfought 10:22 i mean its not TOO bad 10:22 but kinda annoying 10:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) entered a temple, on T:3362 10:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping a cubical amulet on an altar, on T:3365 10:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:3277 10:23 qt: basically writing CSI 8 n ; n t getting the dimensions from winsize 10:23 you should also make it so that dgl pays attention to terminal resize 10:23 instead of requiring you to dc and reconnect 10:23 i should but i wont 10:23 CSI: terminal 10:24 [hdf-us] [nh343] smzp (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 2905 points, T:1792, killed by a rothe 10:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3373 10:24 this is just about ttyrec.c that dgl uses 10:24 i think the gnollhack team did something like that already, i was looking into using that as a base to write an upstream PR but similarly i didn't want to actually compile dgl 10:24 stenno: have you read https://fasterthanli.me/articles/a-terminal-case-of-linux 10:24 its a good article on terminals and escape codes and whatnot 10:24 and there's rust in it :3 10:25 i know about terminals and escape codes and VT100 10:25 interesting thing, alacritty and kitty does not support the resize escape code 10:25 cbus: its not standard 10:25 er wait 10:25 which resize code do you mean 10:25 stenno: but do u know all of it 10:25 which resize escape code? the 'fyi I just got resized' 10:25 stella: yes, ask me anything 10:25 and if not could this nice blog with a cool bear in it – oh ok rip 10:25 or 'plz resize NOW do not resist' 10:26 stenno: i dont actaully care i just wanted to make you read the article 10:26 or something else 10:26 but if you know everything there's nothing to learn 10:26 term_nethack='echo -ne "\e[8;36;121t"' 10:26 oh the 8 one 10:26 except how cool cool bear is i guess 10:26 sets 121x36 10:26 this is just a merker 10:26 marker 10:26 muss noch ein Tee machen 10:26 stenno i have a horrible dockerfile for something that uses dgl as part of it that might still work 10:27 stenno: when i was playing with nethack terminal interactions (with a rust terminal emulator/wrapper program, runs nethack inside itself) i noticed that nethack often ends output sequences with the cursor on escape code 10:27 so i look for that before trying to interpret output 10:27 and then i look for a bold marker in the recent history to find the latest message 10:27 * stella is smort 10:28 yesss an innocent rust 'terminal emulator/wrapper program' with no evil intent whatsoever 10:28 i'm not seeing CSI t documented in console_codes? 10:28 what nefarious purposes could possibly such a thing be for 10:29 paxed: its nonstandard 10:29 paxed: terminal escape codes are horribly bady documentede 10:29 paxed: but termrec writes it, for example 10:29 well the nonstandard ones anyway (I think xterm has a whole bunch of nonstandard ones) 10:29 stella: yes, but if it's not documented in there, then do you know what terminals obey it? 10:29 paxed: indeed. 10:30 at worst they will ignore it 10:30 you just have to believe 10:30 at best they will properly resize 10:30 lol 10:30 * paxed throws gnome-terminals at stella and stenno 10:30 so 10:30 why not just write it 10:30 paxed: if someone chooses to use gnome-terminal they get what they deserve :V 10:30 hah, I use gnome-terminal for nethack :D 10:30 smh 10:30 for everything else I use alacritty _: 10:30 :D 10:30 alacritty is great 10:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 707 points, T:1482, killed by a mountain dwarf 10:30 lately im using iTerm2 tho 10:30 stella: yes, i agree, it's was more of an example of terminal escape code "support" ;) 10:31 there is no reason not to do it 10:31 unless someone is like 'hey, i just want to view ttyrecs, not have my terminal forcibly resized' 10:31 https://invisible-island.net/xterm/ctlseqs/ctlseqs.html 10:31 see CSI Ps ; Ps ; Ps t 10:32 Ps = 8 10:32 Ps = 8 ; height ; width ⇒ Resize the text area to given 10:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3081 10:32 height and width in characters. Omitted parameters reuse the 10:32 current height or width. Zero parameters use the display's 10:32 height or width. 10:32 there's some in-band escape that will also fetch the term size 10:32 like you can do it with ioctls 10:32 or with an escape 10:32 stenno already knows this of course 10:33 because he knows everything about terminals 10:33 can I send escape seqs in irc that will make everyone else's terminals resize to 2x2 10:33 qt: try it 10:33 sure 10:33 why not? 10:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3191 10:33 not like the IRC server is gonna filter that out or anything 10:33 unless they run alacritty ! :P 10:33 or the clients 10:33 why would they 10:33 totally gonna work 10:33 i am running iterm2 using xterm 10:33 yeah why would they, ask log4j 10:33 bring it 10:33 cbus: lmao 10:34 * stella 10:34 oops 10:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Pri Elf Mal Cha) killed Orcus, on T:48792 10:34 you were able to inject vt100 into fruitnames, good times 10:34 find that bones? suddenly your window is filled with E 10:35 [hdf-us] [nh343] smzp (Rog Orc Mal Cha), 1242 points, T:1039, killed by a giant ant 10:35 haaaa 10:35 unfortunately nowadays user-provided names get escaped 10:36 what a great shame 10:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] nurdglaw (Arc Dwa Mal Law), 2115 points, T:2788, killed by an imp 10:36 i think i was still able to ruin xlog by having really strange seeds 10:36 with setseed 10:36 or ruining the bot 10:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Pri Hum Mal Law), 286 points, T:946, killed by a small mimic 10:37 -!- Semilg has joined #hardfought 10:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Hum Fem Neu) destroyed lurchy's ghost, the former Conjurer, on T:4807 10:37 i thought i base64 encoded those 10:37 shouldn't be possible 10:37 at some point you didn't 10:38 oh 10:38 right 10:38 base64 encoded what? the seeds? 10:38 yeh 10:39 [hdf-eu] [nh370] gelrath (Pri Elf Mal Cha) attained the rank of Patriarch, on T:48945 10:42 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1190 points, T:2469, killed by a giant mosquito 10:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:1146 10:47 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Ith Fem Una), 2529 points, T:2665, poisoned by a gray fungus 10:47 -!- qt has quit [Quit: brb] 10:47 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Elf Mal Cha) entered the adventure town for the first time, on T:3033 10:48 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 82 points, T:246, killed by a falling rock 10:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 19 points, T:684, killed by a newt, while fainted from lack of food 10:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] albravo (Bar Orc Mal Cha) attained the rank of Bandit, on T:3502 10:52 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 10:52 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu) completed Sokoban, on T:8747 10:52 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) reached Minetown, on T:2733 10:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] RyanHill (Ran Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:5837 10:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Minetown, on T:2431 10:56 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Ith Fem Una), 462 points, T:1125, killed by draining their own life force 10:57 <@carlarc> experiment results: turns out trying to cast healing with your own life force is probably not a net gain 10:57 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:2852 10:58 where the heck did this quote even come from https://nhqdb.alt.org/?3766 10:59 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 605 points, T:2151, killed by a flint stone 10:59 from discord apparently? 11:00 maybe someone accidentally submitted a dcss quote to the nethack one 11:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 2124 points, T:2318, killed by an ettin zombie 11:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Hea Hum Mal Neu), 452 points, T:2157, killed by a giant ant 11:02 [hdf-us] [ndnh] smzp (Rog Elf Mal Law), 17664 points, T:5098, killed by a fire elemental 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 3008 points, T:4110, killed by a bolt of cold 11:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] albravo (Bar Orc Mal Cha) eschewed atheism, by dropping an octagonal amulet on an altar, on T:4250 11:03 I don't know dcss particularly well but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with dcss OR nethack 11:06 fedhas is one of the gods or something 11:06 it's been deleted now 11:06 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Mon Inc Mal Law) wished for "blessed helping hand", on T:51331 11:07 says no such quote 11:07 oh 11:07 amateurhour literally just said its deleted lol 11:09 it's already gone 11:09 i removed it 11:09 -!- VaderFLAG_ has joined #hardfought 11:09 -!- VaderFLAG has quit [Killed (molybdenum.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 11:09 -!- VaderFLAG_ is now known as VaderFLAG 11:10 whats the bus factor for the nhqdb again? 11:12 1 11:14 !8ball should the bus fuctor be increased? 11:14 NetSysFire: You may rely on it 11:15 if you are 1337 hax0r you can make your own account 11:15 alledgedly 11:15 so they say 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Master Kaen, on T:39144 11:17 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:39150 11:17 * NetSysFire applies a stethoscope to the nhqdb 11:18 you have to read the source for that 11:19 its not the only thing with an atrocious bus factor around here... 11:19 ur rite 11:19 K2 gib admin plox 11:19 ye 11:19 me 2 11:19 amateurhour: i declare you to be nhqdb admin 11:19 im trustabl 11:19 congratulations 11:20 * Pinkbeast becomes a backup admin and coincidentally wins TNNT with a record 2^32 -1 ascensions 11:20 go teamsplat \o/ 11:20 what makes u think he'd play for ur team? :v 11:21 Pinkbeast: join us at order of the chickatrid] 11:21 i cannae type 11:21 Eh, I've been known to play for both teams 11:21 Er 11:21 hahaha 11:21 same tbh 11:21 I mean, no, I must stay loyal to Team Ant 11:21 team who now 11:21 is that a crawl clan 11:21 i dont have any control or rights for nhqdb 11:21 that's stenno 11:21 hey that nethack scoreboard over there has a pretty bad bus factor too 🤔 11:22 In the NAO days it was rgrn, ie Marvin and a bunch more of us who could basically roll our faces on the keyboard at random 11:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:2536 11:22 so like most competetive teams 11:23 I think the only Junethack/TNNT team I've been on is one of Amy's 11:23 eww 11:23 was it the heels one 11:23 K2: I'm not precognitive :-P 11:23 i almost wanted to be on that one for the clan name 11:23 it was a good clan name 11:23 "Slexy Warrior Nymphs", I think 11:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha) performed his first genocide (winter wolves), on T:4600 11:23 also not bad 11:23 this next year the slexual offender team might not be happening so i might do order of the glockatrice 11:23 she could come up with some funny names, to her credit 11:23 -!- Guest80 has joined #hardfought 11:24 Demo: lmao 11:24 -!- Guest80 has quit [Client Quit] 11:24 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) had Trollsbane bestowed upon her by Anhur, on T:5850 11:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] lurchy (Wiz Elf Mal Cha), 4942 points, T:4614, killed by a garter snake 11:25 [hdf-eu] [nh370] Singhend (Ran Elf Mal Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a tripe ration, on T:7087 11:28 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 1076 points, T:2681, killed by a hallucinogen-distorted giant spider 11:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu) entered Sokoban, on T:7608 11:31 [hdf-us] [nh370] RedArrow (Mon Hum Fem Law) tasted meat for the first time, by eating a lizard corpse, on T:5556 11:31 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 198 points, T:760, killed by a jackal 11:32 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu) was given Atlantean Royal Sword, on T:13358 11:33 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 97 points, T:431, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 11:34 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 144 points, T:451, killed by a fox 11:35 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 49 points, T:91, killed by a fox, while praying 11:36 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 5 points, T:24, killed by a jackal 11:36 this year i saw slexismworldwide 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Anhur, on T:3545 11:37 the team icon for SlexAndTheCity was epic 11:37 in the recent junethack 11:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 8380 points, T:8464, killed by a Green-elf 11:39 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Mon Inc Mal Law) wished for "blessed fluorite octet", on T:51792 11:40 [hdf-us] [evil] rebatela (Mon Gia Mal Neu) killed Medusa, on T:40414 11:40 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:8833, rt[3:20:45] 11:41 Tho' "Slexual Justice Warriors" was in retrospect a bit of a warning sign 11:41 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha) had Luck Blade bestowed upon her by Tymora, on T:1421 11:42 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "blessed fixed dragonhide bag of holding", on T:58769 11:44 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:4594 11:46 the first release of slex was already a warning sign 11:46 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 637 points, T:2261, killed by an Aleax of Ilmater 11:46 too close minded lol 11:49 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 188 points, T:517, killed by a jackal, while fainted from lack of food 11:50 https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Dragon_scale_mail&curid=1949&diff=143951&oldid=142122 What the shit 11:50 stenno: lol 11:50 Took a cue from FIQ, interesting 11:50 Should look for the commit later 11:50 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Sokoban, on T:7605 11:50 umbire, https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/ef1eeed7550e38fa1e4ff0ef608f3c8b55eaa950 11:50 if you mean the vanilla one :) 11:51 Oh hi cbus 11:51 Thanks for expediting the process 11:53 Should nicely shake up the silver/gray meta 11:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] every (Ran Elf Fem Cha) destroyed every's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:4872 11:54 freeing up a ring slow with orange will be nice 11:54 s/slow/slot/ 11:54 yes, the new builds will be great 11:54 new DSM builds, new pet builds with them getting resistances now 11:55 variety at last 11:55 blue lets u wear waterwalking and sanic run over water 11:55 speedy jesus build 11:55 or speed + jumping 11:56 :D 11:56 oh thats superfast then 11:57 jumping is an action, right? 11:57 not sure actually 11:57 so you could get up to 9 squares in a single turn? 11:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Arc Hum Fem Law) consulted the Oracle, on T:3184 11:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Mal Neu) wished for "3 blessed fixed spiritual soulstone", on T:58859 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:4828 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a shop, on T:4860 12:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:4907 12:03 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Rog Hum Fem Cha) chose an elven dagger to be named "Sting", on T:3223 12:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 1101 points, T:2543, killed by an iguana 12:05 [hdf-us] [xnh] PetraKelly (Rog Hum Fem Cha), 1556 points, T:3304, killed by a pony 12:06 [hdf-us] [xnh] Zindorsky (Arc Hum Fem Law), 4039 points, T:4481, killed by a jaguar 12:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu) was given the Grandmaster's Robe, on T:13960 12:07 stenno: i think jumping always ticks over the turn counter or something 12:08 so you can't jump more than once per turn 12:08 aw 12:08 so its a turn-action, not an action (i just invented this terminology) 12:08 there's some tactic like if you have speed and jumping, you should walk 1 square and then jump. something like that 12:08 yes it burns all your points 12:08 so in like dnh if you have some soul coins stacked or whatever jumping will wipe them all 12:09 does that include jumps in an android combo? 12:10 yes 12:10 ouch 12:10 you can press esc 12:10 and not jump 12:10 still sad 12:10 but i found that one out the hard ay 12:10 way 12:12 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 2563 points, T:5880, killed by a wolf 12:16 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 104 points, T:760, killed by a guard 12:17 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 19 points, T:177, killed by a jackal 12:20 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 264 points, T:834, killed by an iron ball collision 12:23 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) completed Sokoban, on T:10367 12:23 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1270 12:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) stole 300 zorkmids worth of merchandise from Ngebel's delicatessen, on T:1363 12:25 Still out of practice, so 12:25 case PM_CAVEMAN: 12:25 case PM_CAVEWOMAN: 12:25 if (rn2(4)) 12:25 weapon = MACE; 12:26 ^How much chance does the above represent of a cavefoo playerman being given a mace over their random weapon? 12:27 75% 12:27 where's that from? 12:27 mplayer.c 12:27 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:27 hence specifying playermon 12:27 what variant 12:27 ? 12:27 er, playerman lul 12:27 vanilla 12:27 is it 3.6 or something? that's not current vanilla code, PM_CAVEMAN and PM_CAVEWOMAN aren't used any more 12:28 it doesn't really matter I'm just curious 12:28 It is vanilla 12:28 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.6_Released/src/mplayer.c#L179 12:28 ok so it is 3.6 12:28 3.7 ain't released yet, still vanilla :B 12:28 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Magician, on T:11000 12:29 well, i didn't say it wasn't vanilla, i said it's not current 12:29 you're not current 12:29 :c 12:29 that's sadly true 12:29 jk ilu 12:30 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 857 points, T:2355, killed by a dwarf zombie 12:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 2008 points, T:1470, killed by a watch captain 12:32 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Inf Ith Fem Una), 16194 points, T:7238, killed by a mumak 12:37 weapon = !rn2(2) ? LONG_SWORD : rnd_class(SPEAR, BULLWHIP); 12:37 ^50% chance of a random weapon between those classes in object.c (inclusively of course) 12:37 Correct? 12:38 yeah 12:38 [hdf-us] [evil] carlarc (Ran Hum Fem Cha), 0 points, T:808, killed by a grid bug 12:39 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:39 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 12:39 so for a caveperson mplayer i guess it's like 75% chance of a mace, 12.5% chance of a club, 6.25% chance of a long sword, 6.25% chance of a random melee weapon 12:41 if i am doing the math right, which is a not-insignificant if 12:42 oooh... matrix 4 tomorrow 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] augmentedfourth (Val Dwa Fem Law) has been given Excalibur, and now enjoys supreme executive power, on T:4154 12:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] augmentedfourth (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:4263 12:45 That sounds right qt 12:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 10107 points, T:8616, killed by a gray unicorn 12:45 Though the order of ops is p. important 12:46 the 50% chance of a long sword/random weapon comes before the role-specific overrides 12:47 qt: are worm teeth/crysknives excluded in this case or no? 12:48 [hdf-us] [nh370] augmentedfourth (Val Dwa Fem Law), 3023 points, T:5132, killed by a snake 12:48 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:49 rnd_class uses the normal generation rates of the items, so I think those would be excluded since they don't generate randomly in the dungeon? 12:50 Right... 12:51 Now if I could just remember which number handles probability 12:51 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu) killed Cerberus, on T:15404 12:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "blessed rustproof Master Key of Thievery", on T:2612 12:52 in objects.c you mean? 12:53 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: oh6] 12:53 -!- oh6 has joined #hardfought 12:54 WEAPON("long sword", None, 1, 0, 0, 50 <-- it's the 50, here, I think 12:54 Yeah 12:54 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) destroyed every's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:14201 12:54 I was getting the sense it was that, but then idk how to interpret it from there 12:54 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Mon Inc Mal Law) killed the Wizard of Yendor, on T:53191 12:55 Like they obviously add up to more than 100% so that by itself ain't it 12:55 well, if you are looking at the specific range of SPEAR to BULLWHIP, I guess you'd have to add up all those numbers and then divide 50 by that number 12:56 in vanilla all the numbers in a particular object class add up to 1000 i think, but if you're looking at a specific range within a class that won't help you very much 12:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 847 points, T:2626, killed by touching The Master Key of Thievery 12:57 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 12:58 <@nabru> !lastgame petrakelly 12:58 @nabru: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/P/PetraKelly/nethack/dumplog/1640075101.nh.html 12:58 damn 12:58 what a way to go 12:58 involuntarily retouching artifacts because of lycanthropy 13:00 [hdf-us] [dnh] Alasnuyo (Arc Hum Fem Neu) was given their Quest, on T:60182 13:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:1 13:01 rip 13:02 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Mon Inc Mal Law) performed the invocation, on T:53464 13:02 F 13:03 whenever you turn into a werewolf you furiously pat all your pockets i guess 13:03 "keys, wallet, phone... nope, none of them are silver, I'm good" 13:03 Probably the artifacts responding to the holder polymorphing 13:04 qt: So within an object class you'd divide the object's prob by 1000? 13:05 [hdf-eu] [evil] lacca (Con Ith Fem Cha), 2364 points, T:3232, killed by a ball of cold 13:09 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Val Hum Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a hell hound pup, on T:25184 13:10 yeah if you are generating a random object from within a particular class 13:10 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 13:11 Right, right, will remember for the future 13:12 In this specific case with a set of random classes though, just total all the classes and then divide 50 by it 13:12 (50/x) 13:12 and then? 13:15 that would be the chance of rnd_class(SPEAR, BULLWHIP) producing a long sword i guess 13:15 [hdf-eu] [nh370] APic (Hea Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Medica ossium, on T:41025 13:15 Ah right right 13:15 Just replace "50" with the prob of my desired weapon obvs 13:16 Only have to do this adding once thankfully 13:16 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Val Hum Fem Law) performed her first genocide (class L), on T:26544 13:17 are you trying to figure out the exact chances of an mplayer generating with each type of weapon? 13:18 Well no, just a mace specifically 13:18 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2215 13:18 Though once I know the total prob for rnd_class(SPEAR, BULLWHIP), the rest'll be easy after that 13:18 oh so you're trying to add the chance of getting a mace from rnd_class to the 75% chance of a guaranteed mace? 13:18 Ye 13:19 Besides I feel like the player monster article may have the info anyway 13:19 more than anything I wanna further my code understanding + make sure the math is right 13:20 i doubt it will push it beyond 75.5% tbh 13:21 share the results once you figure them out though, I'm curious now 13:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 71 points, T:151, killed by a falling rock 13:21 580 is the total prob. from "spear" to "bullwhip" that I have 13:21 Sound correct to you? 13:22 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:27043 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 1607 points, T:2580, killed by a dwarf 13:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:374 13:25 it's 580 in 3.7 so yeah sounds right 13:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 383 points, T:885, killed by a gnome lord 13:27 Alright, then it's just an easy 40/580 for maces 13:28 0.06896551... 13:29 ~7% 13:29 So 1/2 chance of a random weapon, 2/29 chance of that random weapon being a mace 13:30 It's an additional ~3.45% chance that they just get a mace from the jump 13:31 i don't think so 13:31 Well not additional per se 13:32 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Anaraxis the Black, on T:18197 13:33 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:18204 13:33 !rn2(2) ? LONG_SWORD : rnd_class(SPEAR, BULLWHIP) => 50% of getting a random weapon from that class range, ~6.9% chance of that random weapon being a mace 13:33 the 1/2 chance only applies if the guaranteed mace/guaranteed club cases don't happen 13:33 https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.6_Released/src/mplayer.c#L154 13:33 /* default equipment; much of it will be overridden below */ 13:34 [hdf-us] [nh370] augmentedfourth (Val Dwa Fem Law) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 darts on an altar, on T:3066 13:34 I'm only calc'ing the chance of that initial weapon being a mace 13:34 oh, sure 13:34 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Val Hum Fem Law) made her first wish - "blessed greased fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:27845 13:34 i figured you would want to account for the chance of it being overridden 13:34 then factoring in the 75% chance for cavefolk to get a mace forced over a non-mace weapon 13:34 Yes 13:35 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:27860 13:35 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) destroyed the invisible Vlad the Impaler, on T:41506 13:35 then after that is the rn2(2) roll for forcing a club instead 13:35 i think the total likelihood is like 75.4% 13:35 of getting a mace 13:35 it might be, that's what I'm trying to puzzle out 13:36 [hdf-us] [nh363] pinball (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) acquired the Candelabrum of Invocation, on T:41512 13:36 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed ring of levitation", on T:27896 13:37 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 gauntlets of power", on T:27899 13:38 1/2 chance for random weapon, 2/29 for mace => 27/29 chance of a non-mace, then 3/4 chance to force mace, then 1/2 chance to force club 13:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] augmentedfourth (Val Dwa Fem Law) endured an absurd aquatic ceremony, and now wields Excalibur, on T:3571 13:38 sounds right to you qt? 13:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4724 13:40 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) hit with a wielded weapon for the first time, on T:4746 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:2008 13:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 666 points, T:1709, killed by a hill orc 13:41 wait no, that's an else if, once the mace is forced then that'd be it 13:41 0.75 [chance of 'forced' mace] + (0.25 [chance of not getting a 'forced' mace] * 0.5 [chance of not getting a club] * 0.5 [chance of not getting a long sword] * 40/580 [chance of getting a mace randomly]) 13:41 I think 13:42 that's the way I am thinking of it 13:42 If it's already a mace then it might force a club instead 13:43 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Val Hum Fem Law) genocided class h, on T:28268 13:43 yeah it's effectively the same as: if (75%) [mace] else if (50%) [club] else if (50%) [long sword] else [random weapon] 13:43 Right 13:44 The long sword/random weapon bit is done first assuming I'm reading correctly 13:44 Before the overrides 13:44 yeah it is 13:44 So wouldn't it have to be... 13:45 since you only actually keep that result if none of the other things happen, it's effectively the same as putting it under there with an 'else' 13:45 something like (1/2 * 2/29 * 1/2) 13:46 yeah 13:46 (chance of random weapon, chance of random weapon being a mace, chance a club isn't forced) 13:46 then you add that to the 0.75 of a mace being 'forced' over a non-mace weapon 13:47 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Fem Law) had Dragonbane bestowed upon her by Lugh, on T:11130, rt[5:27:34] 13:47 you also have to include the chance a mace isn't forced before you add it 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 243 points, T:389, killed by a fox 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) had Magicbane bestowed upon him by Thoth, on T:2441 13:47 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mad Hum Mal Cha) wished for "blessed +2 Blade Singer's Saber", on T:25723 13:47 But if it's already a mace, why force it 13:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 4 points, T:104, killed by a goblin 13:48 code doesn't check for that redundancy ig 13:49 yeah, think about the chance of getting a 'forced' club or mace -- it's not 1/2 + 3/4, it's (1/2 * 1/4) + 3/4. the 1/2 only applies if you don't get the mace, so you have to account for that 13:49 right 13:49 so the mace thing is 3/4 + (1/4 * 1/2 * 1/2 * 2/29) i think 13:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed greased +2 boots of speed", on T:28970 13:50 chance of random weapon, chance of aforementioned being mace, chance club *isn't* forced, chance mace isn't forced 13:50 [hdf-us] [nh370] augmentedfourth (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:5139 13:50 sounds right since we're adding to the chance of a mace being forced anyway 13:50 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Val Hum Fem Law) wished for "blessed magic marker", on T:29012 13:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) consumed animal products for the first time, by eating a jackal corpse, on T:3150 13:52 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 498 points, T:1859, killed by a gnome lord 13:52 qt: and assuming we both agree on that (which it sounds like) 13:53 Yeah, it's like ~0.43% 13:54 yes i think so too 13:55 -!- tjw_ is now known as tjw 13:58 Whereas for a priest it'd be 13:58 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3599 13:58 1/2 + (1/2 * 1/2 * 1/2 * 2/29) 13:58 Yeah? 14:00 which if so means a ~50.86% chance effectively 14:00 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Fem Law) wished for "historic holy very greased thoroughly fixed partly eaten very glowing dragon scales named let's play the dragon scale lottery", on T:11299 14:00 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:4193 14:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Trailblazer, on T:4233 14:02 <@carlarc> thoroughly fixed 14:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Rog Hum Mal Cha), 1713 points, T:2601, poisoned by a rabid rat 14:04 qt: all the above check out? 14:06 i think you have an extra * 1/2, since priest doesn't have the potential club 14:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha) polymorphed her first object, on T:12534 14:07 [hdf-eu] [evil] NetSysFire (Con Ith Fem Cha), 9525 points, T:12534, killed by a rabid rat 14:08 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mad Hum Mal Cha) killed Cerberus, on T:28012 14:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] wispofvapor (Wiz Hum Fem Neu), 1255 points, T:2411, killed by a rothe 14:10 who of you continues to submit my bad puns to the qdb 14:10 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) chose an elven broadsword to be named "Orcrist", on T:4861 14:10 do you know what pain you inflict on the readers? 14:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Neu), 2642 points, T:5027, killed by a raven 14:12 a net amount of +6 readers thought it was good instead of feeling pain 14:16 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) killed Medusa, on T:20694 14:17 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) attained the rank of Enchantress, on T:21320 14:25 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) murdered her faithful warhorse, on T:21320 14:26 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 3871 points, T:5885, killed by an ape 14:30 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:4 14:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Val Hum Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:30859 14:31 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Val Hum Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:30863 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] albravo (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered the Bigroom, on T:5711 14:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3531 14:41 [hdf-eu] [nh370] torpedovariant (Val Hum Fem Law) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by Tyr, on T:31831 14:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3587 14:42 -!- zhakupov has joined #hardfought 14:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] sluggoman (Wiz Hum Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:3638 14:44 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Sam Hum Mal Law) destroyed pescepalla's ghost, the former Rhizotomist, on T:2364 14:45 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Sam Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:2450 14:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) made her first wish - "silver dragon scales", on T:22811 14:46 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 514 points, T:2059, killed by a bolt of lightning 14:46 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) wished for "blessed fixed +2 helm of brilliance", on T:22812 14:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 23 points, T:102, killed by a bear trap 14:52 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:53 [hdf-eu] [nh370] pescepalla (Sam Hum Mal Law), 4014 points, T:2852, killed by a wand 14:56 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) entered Gehennom, on T:23405 14:58 [hdf-us] [xnh] eziono (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 227494 points, T:23421, poisoned by Demogorgon, while praying 14:59 -!- elenmirie has joined #hardfought 15:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) murdered his faithful pony, on T:2644 15:03 -!- nurdglaw has quit [Quit: Client closed] 15:03 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:3248 15:05 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) attained the rank of Adept, on T:3653 15:05 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:3294 15:06 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered a temple, on T:3385 15:08 -!- andbartol has joined #hardfought 15:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered Sokoban, on T:4554 15:09 -!- andbartol has quit [Client Quit] 15:09 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) entered a shop, on T:3467 15:11 -!- qt has joined #hardfought 15:11 !tell qt thanks again! https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Mace&diff=143956&oldid=143953 15:11 I'm on it, Umbire. 15:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] albravo (Bar Orc Mal Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:7659 15:13 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mad Hum Mal Cha) killed Axus, on T:31291 15:14 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) entered the Gnomish Mines, on T:5482 15:15 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:16 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:17 [hdf-us] [nh370] albravo (Bar Orc Mal Cha) entered a temple, on T:7768 15:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law), 5977 points, T:6518, killed by a chameleon imitating a mountain centaur 15:23 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:25 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu) was given Apotheosis Veil, on T:19385 15:25 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 15:26 Umbire: I think it's a little confusing to say there's "effectively a 6.9% chance" of getting a mace and a 1/2 chance of getting a random weapon. maybe it would be clearer to say "a 6.9% chance if not generated with a class-specific weapon"? 15:26 qt: Message from Umbire at 2021-12-21 15:11 EST: thanks again! https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Mace&diff=143956&oldid=143953 15:26 [hdf-us] [nh370] Frozty (Arc Gno Mal Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:1779 15:26 Possibly 15:27 qt when will u port nethack to qt6 15:27 i hate Qt, we are bitter rivals 15:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 2237 points, T:3690, quit 15:31 I'll deal with it once I finish this lamp thing 15:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] zhakupov (Mon Hum Mal Neu) attained the rank of Initiate, on T:5624 15:34 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Fem Law) entered the Town, on T:12554, rt[7:15:19] 15:38 [hdf-us] [nh370] zhakupov (Mon Hum Mal Neu) became literate by reading a scroll, on T:6703 15:39 Needed to correct anyway 15:40 [hdf-us] [nh370] Orion (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 73 points, T:313, killed by a grid bug 15:41 [hdf-us] [nh370] Orion (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 5 points, T:146, killed by a newt 15:43 [hdf-us] [nh4] sixtensef (jaco161) (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 18867 points, T:756, killed by a giant rat 15:45 -!- oh6 has quit [Quit: oh6] 15:45 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu) murdered her faithful kitten, on T:4535 15:47 [hdf-us] [nh370] desertgreg (Bar Orc Fem Cha) read a Discworld novel, on T:19582 15:49 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:2337 15:50 -!- zhakupov has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.4] 15:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 737 points, T:2354, killed by a large mimic 15:54 -!- andbartol has joined #hardfought 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu) attained the rank of Excursionist, on T:5148 15:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu) destroyed PetraKelly's ghost, the former Trailblazer, on T:5148 15:57 -!- andbartol has quit [Client Quit] 15:57 <@stenno> its called rougelike 15:57 <@Eternal Guardian> It's spelled roguelike. 15:58 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:59 -!- nurdglaw has joined #hardfought 16:03 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:04 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:117169 16:07 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu) had Mjollnir bestowed upon her by The Lady, on T:5303 16:08 [hdf-eu] [nh370] spontiff (Hea Gno Mal Neu) became literate by reading a book, on T:20020 16:08 -!- krm26 has joined #hardfought 16:08 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) killed Ashikaga Takauji, on T:47294 16:08 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:47295 16:08 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:09 -!- andbartol has joined #hardfought 16:10 Things you feel here: a wolf corpse a whistle 16:10 wolf dropped a wolf whistle 16:10 -!- andbartol has quit [Client Quit] 16:10 -!- andbartol has joined #hardfought 16:11 [hdf-us] [evil] qt (Sam Hum Mal Law) completed his quest without incident, on T:47532 16:11 -!- andbartol has quit [Client Quit] 16:11 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:12 -!- raisse has joined #hardfought 16:12 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) acquired the Mines' End luckstone, on T:6698 16:13 -!- andbartol has joined #hardfought 16:14 -!- andbartol has quit [Client Quit] 16:14 -!- andbartol has joined #hardfought 16:15 -!- elenmirie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:15 -!- elenmirie_ has joined #hardfought 16:15 -!- elenmirie_ is now known as elenmirie 16:16 -!- Chris__ANG has joined #hardfought 16:16 [hdf-eu] [gnoll] davez (Val Hum Fem Neu), 333496 points, T:31308, choked on a dragon fruit 16:18 [hdf-us] [un] hothraxxa (Kni Hum Fem Law), 15408 points, T:13001, killed by a chillbug 16:22 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 1788 points, T:1892, killed by a dwarf 16:30 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mad Hum Mal Cha) wished for "2 blessed scrolls of genocide", on T:35221 16:32 -!- Bartol has quit [Quit: Client closed] 16:32 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 14677 points, T:8167, killed by a panther 16:37 -!- andbartol is now known as Bartol 16:37 [hdf-us] [nh370] Bartlem (Arc Hum Fem Neu), 3424 points, T:2501, killed by a giant bat 16:39 -!- raisse has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:42 [hdf-us] [nh370] desertgreg (Bar Orc Fem Cha) had Cleaver bestowed upon her by Set, on T:20125 16:55 -!- mobileuser has quit [Quit: Connection closed] 16:55 -!- mobileuser has joined #hardfought 16:56 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:7808 16:57 [hdf-us] [nh4] seventensef (jaco161) (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 11264 points, T:412, killed by a newt 16:57 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:7896 16:57 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu) became literate by engraving "Lilje", on T:3819 16:57 -!- Chris__ANG has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:58 !tell Umbire IIRC unicorns just don't spawn in Sokoban in fh 16:58 FIQ: Message from Umbire at 2021-12-21 09:37 EST: "If a peaceful monster would spawn in Sokoban, it is generated hostile instead. Thus, it is safe to kill unknown monsters that are blocking your boulder movements." So how does FIQHack handle unicorns in that case? 16:58 Will do, FIQ! 16:59 coo 16:59 Umbire: Message from FIQ at 2021-12-21 16:58 EST: IIRC unicorns just don't spawn in Sokoban in fh 17:01 paxed: Yeah they are somewhat familiar :P 17:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] oh6 (Hea Hum Mal Neu) killed Orcus, on T:56676 17:04 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) attained the rank of Thaumaturge, on T:3200 17:07 [hdf-eu] [dnh] Vis (Mad Hum Mal Neu) was given the Black Arrow, on T:20589 17:08 FIQ: were you the person hacking a ROM atm? 17:08 i thought you mentioned something like that but maybe it was someone else 17:08 [hdf-us] [evil] karibou (Rog Elf Fem Neu), 3653 points, T:4043, killed by an enormous rat 17:11 !lastgame karibou 17:11 NetSysFire: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/k/karibou/evilhack/dumplog/1640041639.evil.html 17:11 ah, bones 17:11 stenno: that was FIQ 17:12 he was working on pokemon i think 17:12 or as it's known in sophisticated society, the pokey mans 17:13 FIQ: i have a friend here on IRC who also does romhacking, and i kinda want to hook them up with the people i already know from here :D 17:13 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) reached Mine Town, on T:4382 17:14 I know of a couple of ROMhacking discords, one Pokemon-related 17:15 as well as other-purpsore discords where it's discussed 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) entered a temple, on T:4555 17:15 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Wiz Gno Fem Neu) eschewed atheism, by dropping 4 darts on an altar, on T:4565 17:16 stenno: yes, I do Pokémon 2gen romhacking 17:16 Umbire: pret? it's probably the most famous one outside the general Pokémon circle 17:16 because of the rarity of decompilation hacking otherwise 17:16 that one I don't know 17:17 I just know of a few hacking discords, not specifically decomp ones 17:17 for example this: https://github.com/pret/pokered 17:17 (I hack pokecrystal, but the above is the one with the most outside interest I think, since it was the first to be decompiled) 17:17 FIQ: so can i kinda mention your name to them to initiate conversation? they might PM you after that 17:18 stenno: feel free, but I was about to go to sleep :P 17:18 so I'll not likely respond until tomorrow 17:18 oh not at this moment, but for the next days 17:18 great! 17:18 Ahh, well then 17:20 remastering (really just fixing resource loading and major bug/visual issues) with games of mine from like 6+ years ago 17:21 stenno: specifically I am one of the main contributors to https://github.com/Rangi42/polishedcrystal 17:21 cool! 17:21 #2 contributor 17:21 hm now I'm kinda curious how substantial my contributions are exactly 17:21 have you ever considered bumping off Remy Oukaour to take your rightful place on the throne 17:21 the pokey man throne 17:22 hah 17:22 Remy is a previous username of Rangi42 17:22 -!- amateurhour has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:23 so technically she's quite a bit further ahead than what the commit stats say 17:23 I'll have to contend with being 2nd :P 17:23 FIQ: here is their gh https://github.com/kirjavascript 17:23 Guess I'll see about doing like stenno and mentioning you to the people in those discords to initiate stuff 17:23 if that's fine FIQ, not gonna be doing it immediately 17:24 stenno: I see 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh4] eightensef (jaco161) (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 25525 points, T:3052, killed by a rothe 17:24 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha) became literate by naming Sting, on T:352 17:25 stenno: Hm, they seem to be doing MD stuff mostly 17:25 Sonic maybe? 17:25 they are working on a NES tetris thing 17:25 Yeah I saw that too 17:28 anyway, afk 17:29 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha) reached Mine Town, on T:1482 17:33 [hdf-us] [nh370] nabru (Wiz Elf Fem Cha), 1731 points, T:1599, killed by a dwarf 17:35 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest7912 17:35 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 17:38 -!- Guest7912 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:40 -!- ChrisANG has joined #hardfought 17:42 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:43 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu) just blew up her bag of holding, on T:13031 17:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] SkydiveMike (Tou Hum Fem Neu), 6240 points, T:13031, killed by a magical explosion 17:45 -!- huuh has joined #hardfought 17:47 -!- elenmirie has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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I used to regularly get well into Gehennom and past Orcus. 19:17 I had a 500 HP bararian go down very quickly. dead gone. 19:18 now, knowing what was to be I  had a 330 HP wizard go from 330 to 65 HP VERY QUICKLY.  Was attacking from a far, but then quickly moved next to me. 19:19 I survived but blew through 10 full healings and barely made it. 19:19 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) rejected atheism with a prayer, on T:5092 19:20 that character is now parked because becasue i no longer want to continue.... HP addition methods are limited. No markers, no scrolls, no healing potions . . . 19:20 Now,  facing him with a priest I figured I had a plan. 19:20 Nope. 19:20 240 HP to n othing real quickly. 19:20 -!- fakepass has joined #hardfought 19:21 Burned though 17 (!!!) full healing VERY quickly and could not touch him. 19:21 WTH are you supposed to do? 19:21 Scroll of earth, sure, but what else? 19:24 sit inside boulder fort. Magic missile 19:25 seems dumb that that is the only solution 19:25 drain resistance does nothing, but it should/ 19:25 and non magic users? 19:25 ranged weapons. with boulders. 19:26 silver, of course. 19:26 it's not the only solution - darts work too 19:26 silver even better 19:26 i'm sure there are many other ways 19:27 and there is talk of somehow lessening the effectiveness of boulders. 19:28 darts are ranged weapons 19:28 i just do not like it as the solution and the only solution 19:29 seem incredibly unbalanced /// way too op 19:29 boulder forts are great, but sometimes someone has a wand of striking, then something else needed 19:29 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law) made his first wish - "Blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:6010 19:29 Orcus being more powerful than The Wizard 19:29 I'd hate to see Demogorgon beefed up 19:30 i met Tiamat, and she had a wand of striking. My carefully laid plans went out the window... 19:30 People fear him in vanilla.  he was beefed up in Evil, too -- but the last time I encountered him was 0.3.0. 19:30 ...ended up coming back and polymorphing into blackD to finish the job 19:30 hate to see what he is now. 19:31 wizard is nasty now. 50% of the time he has magic resistance 19:33 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest6731 19:33 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 19:36 other peoples' ttyrecs helped give me ideas. Also trying stuff out in wizmode before committing. But could be considered cheating 19:36 -!- Guest6731 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:37 -!- Terexen has joined #hardfought 19:37 correction - it was Graz'zt not Tiamat ^ 19:37 i used to use WizMode, but yeah, it feels dirty    also used to save scum   quite that like 15 years ago 19:38 makes it so much more fun 19:38 Tiam'mt 19:38 also, with being on the edge between life and death, you learn more. 19:38 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Mon Inc Mal Law) entered the Planes, on T:55514 19:38 quite = quit 19:39 Graz'zt  specifically dNH? 19:40 Non 19:40 EvilHack as well 19:41 Graz'zt is the worst & I've met so far. Charms you and steals all your stuff 19:42 [hdf-eu] [nh370] peterg (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Fighter, on T:3838 19:42 (in EvilHack) 19:44 Graznap'pd 19:44 indeed 19:45 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) killed Medusa, on T:122795 19:45 <@carlarc> maybe i should just not play evilhack 19:45 <@carlarc> already went thru like 19:45 <@carlarc> 18 infidels 19:45 <@carlarc> none got past the big room 19:46 <@carlarc> and if it gets worse it's just not gonna be fun 19:46 [hdf-eu] [nh370] peterg (Val Dwa Fem Law) became literate by engraving "Elbereth", on T:4521 19:46 Maybe don't start with the hardest possible role? 19:47 lmao 19:47 <@carlarc> that is true but infidel's what interested me about the variant 19:47 well there you go, hardest possible role 19:48 <@carlarc> i'm not really dying to not understanding infidel's mechanics as far as i can tell either, just the other increased difficulty things of evilhack 19:48 <@carlarc> though, i'm biased in that 19:48 then play a different role lol 19:48 infidel is too far different from the other retooled rolls to go in (relatively) blind 19:49 it is very satisfying to finally overcome the slings and arrows of outrageous demon lords / rodney / gelatinous cubes / dragons etc. 19:49 -!- el_test has joined #hardfought 19:49 <@carlarc> the...slings and arrows? 19:49 it'd probably be more enjoyable in the long run to adjust to the differences between evil and vanilla in "normal" pla 19:49 <@carlarc> is that a saying? 19:49 play* 19:49 and then adjust your play from that to something as radically different as an infidel 19:50 they get a lot of strong early-game items and don't have to worry about curse-testing, but the religion mechanics also put them on a pretty strict clock 19:50 <@carlarc> oh man that really screwed me over last time 19:51 <@carlarc> i was happy i got create monster at the start and then found no dungeon altars except for one temple 19:51 -!- Umbire is now known as Guest2394 19:51 -!- Guest2394 has quit [Killed (strontium.libera.chat (Nickname regained by services))] 19:51 -!- Umbire has joined #hardfought 19:51 Load of piss 19:51 But yeah, certain branches also become much harder 19:51 i've not tried infidel yet 19:51 <@carlarc> which.. well, no MR or reflection, i imagine in evil it's even bigger of a death trap somehow 19:51 I've tried infidel quite a few times 19:51 It is ... extra hard 19:51 What is? 19:51 a death trap, I mean 19:51 even worse than normal evilhack 19:52 <@carlarc> oh sorry i wasn't clear 19:52 <@carlarc> entering a temple as infidel 19:52 Yeah, converting an entire temple is something you have to plan out well in advance 19:52 and you have to take on the entire watch as well once you set foot inside 19:54 <@carlarc> something that really screwed me up was being unable to tp out of trouble 19:55 <@carlarc> you're right though, i shouldn't have started out on the hardest role in the hardest variant, thats my bad 19:55 ambition is good ;) 19:59 [hdf-eu] [nh370] peterg (Val Dwa Fem Law) entered Sokoban, on T:6020 20:04 [hdf-eu] [nh370] xororand (Pri Hum Mal Law), 3760 points, T:6745, killed by a blast of acid 20:10 you can actually take on the temple priest rather easily with an infidel 20:10 blast him with drain life 20:11 train up your homunculus to a greater homunculus and get 'em armored up 20:11 they'll take out most of the guards 20:11 <@carlarc> the i always dies to zombies 20:11 dagger volley the watch captain, easy to raise dagger to expert 20:11 let the homunculus kill anything right at first 20:12 then as soon as it is greater put a helmet on it! 20:12 <@carlarc> as in 20:12 <@carlarc> it gets zombie illness and dies 20:13 also, psionics work great with confusing tougher monsters... confuse with that and then dagger volley 20:13 oh , I know... 20:13 let it kill all of the grid bugs, newts and such and it will level up fast' 20:13 <@carlarc> oh it gains resistance? 20:13 <@carlarc> neat 20:13 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Fire Brand bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:21249 20:14 helm stops zombie attacks. 20:14 actually. more like helps stop.... does not compoletely negate it. 20:15 'l'oot your pet liek you do a chest and then you can give them a helm 20:15 once you take out the Minetown guards, enter the temple. 20:15 It will make the priest mad, so killing him is not as bad 20:16 also --- the infidel thing is a patch that can be applied to vanilla NetHack.  Not sure how good you are at compiling 20:16 https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Tomsod/YANIs_and_patches/Infidel 20:17 I thinkj another variant implemented it too, did they not? 20:17 <@carlarc> i just finished brackey's tutorial about if statements, so i'm probably ready :thonk: 20:17 So, you can play infidel without all of the Evil™. 20:18 <@carlarc> that feels dishonest 20:18 Heh. 20:18 There is a lot greatness in EvilHack. 20:18 But there are things I'd like to revise, change or tone down. 20:18 unEvilHack 20:18 <@carlarc> yeah it has a lot of neat stuff 20:19 For all that is Evil, there is also a decent chunk in the player's favor. 20:19 Orc Town is no longer a copmplete loss. 20:19 <@carlarc> i just wish player monsters didnt spawn invisible 20:19 <@carlarc> and immediately nab the amulet 20:19 the orc temples at Mine's End is cool too. 20:20 I usually make a dive to Mine;es 20:20 oops 20:20 dive to /Mine's End to se  if it is the orc  temple 20:20 <@carlarc> is it a horizontal corridor to some rooms with altars and magma? 20:20 three altars already devoted to Moloch! 20:20 yep 20:20 <@carlarc> dnethack has that i think, it was p neat 20:21 real easy with invisibility 20:21 sorry if m typing is crap, experiencing major issues with my one eye right now! 20:21 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) had Grayswandir bestowed upon her by Amaterasu Omikami, on T:21855 20:22 one of these days I'll end up with a tame Balrog! 20:22 always managed to screw it up 20:22 yeah those agents of can be a pain.  and the champions of always hit HARD 20:23 with infidel yopu have the bonus of starting telepathy 20:23 pelt them hard with psionic 20:23 [hdf-us] [nh4] prachi (zetroma) (Val Hum Fem Law), 13047 points, T:899, quit 20:23 -!- tommo has joined #hardfought 20:25 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) changed form for the first time, becoming a quivering blob, on T:22385 20:28 [hdf-us] [seed] Tommo (Val Dwa Fem Law), 361 points, T:743, [0:04:25], killed by a pony 20:28 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) completed Sokoban, acquiring an amulet of magic resistance, on T:22832 20:37 -!- tonneofton has quit [Quit: Client closed] 20:37 <@carlarc> [seed]? 20:37 <@carlarc> seeded 370? 20:45 -!- el_test has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:49 [hdf-us] [evil] bouquet (Sam Gia Fem Law) polymorphed her first object, on T:24551 20:50 As in, it's a randomized seed, yes 20:51 Or a "set seed" picked from a randomized set rather? 20:51 you get the idea lol 20:51 [hdf-us] [nh4] ninetensef (jaco161) (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 7855 points, T:683, killed by a small mimic 20:52 -!- cathartes has joined #hardfought 20:55 <@carlarc> set seed? 20:55 -!- tommo has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:55 <@carlarc> now that is something i haven't heard of 20:55 <@carlarc> like playing from a set of seeds that are guaranteed to have an altar at level 5 or something? 20:55 [hdf-us] [dnh] malor (Mad Hum Mal Cha) wished for "uncursed magic marker", on T:36407 20:57 <@nabru> It was meant for speedrunners or players competing among themselves 20:57 <@nabru> That way everybody would have the same dungeon 20:57 <@nabru> but it kinda fell in disuse 20:57 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Mon Inc Mal Law) destroyed Famine, on T:55937 20:59 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Mon Inc Mal Law) killed the invisible Center of All, on T:55961 21:00 Well infinigon's back and active again so 21:01 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Mon Inc Mal Law) destroyed Pestilence, on T:56010 21:01 [hdf-eu] [nh370] peterg (Val Dwa Fem Law) completed Sokoban, on T:9163 21:01 <@carlarc> oh wow helio's terminal looks really neat 21:02 <@carlarc> didnt know dnethack had that cool fiq-style hp and energy bar, i wonder what option that is 21:05 [hdf-us] [dnh] Heliokopis (Mon Inc Mal Law), 11471273 points, T:56036, ascended https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/H/Heliokopis/dnethack/dumplog/1639755236.dnh.txt 21:06 <@carlarc> grats 21:06 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Geryon, on T:63589 21:10 [hdf-us] [nh4] twentysef (jaco161) (Wiz Hum Mal Cha), 29180 points, T:1521, killed by a giant bat 21:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] PetraKelly (Ran Elf Fem Cha), 1738 points, T:3354, killed by a giant bat 21:20 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Law) reached Mine Town, on T:1070 21:21 [hdf-us] [nh370] LoadedDice (Cav Hum Mal Law) had Sunsword bestowed upon him by Anu, on T:1108 21:27 -!- stenno has joined #hardfought 21:37 [hdf-us] [evil] krm26 (Sam Gia Fem Law) killed Lolth, on T:64544 21:39 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:41 !tell tonneofton join #evilhack next time you're on irc, I've read your comments but keep missing you, you're gone by the time I'm back hah 21:41 I'm on it, K2. 21:42 @carlarc awesome that you enjoy infidel role, but it may not be a bad idea to try a role you're more familiar with, at least for just a few games 21:43 [backscroll] I've already toned down Orcus' draining damage once, maybe it needs another look, it might still be a bit much 21:43 -!- hackedhead_ is now known as hackedhead 21:44 Yeah someone apparently got shredded by him earlier 21:44 Didn't check dump but it was a dorf priest 21:44 Probably another victim besides them 21:45 <@carlarc> oof my whining got noticed by the author... that's embarassing 21:45 <@carlarc> your variant is awesome and evil k2 👍 21:46 thanks lol 21:46 i've been owned by evilhack orcus before, so dont feel bad hah 21:46 I once got dbl-teamed by him and baphomet. didnt last long at all 22:03 <@carlarc> omg 22:03 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400474774440247317/923048034017874050/unknown.png 22:03 <@carlarc> incredible post death identification 22:03 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Mad Hlf Fem Cha), 2244 points, T:2908, died of starvation 22:13 -!- qt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:16 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Medusa, on T:7377 22:26 -!- spicyCebolla has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:44 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) attained the rank of Warrior, on T:9425 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) killed Lord Surtur, on T:10018 22:51 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) acquired the Bell of Opening, on T:10020 22:57 -!- gbmor has quit [Quit: brrrrrb] 22:57 [hdf-us] [slshm] luxor (Wiz Dop Fem Neu), 4103 points, T:3153, killed by a rabid rabbit 23:01 -!- gbmor has joined #hardfought 23:01 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) made her first wish - "2 blessed scrolls of charging", on T:11015 23:02 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law) wished for "blessed fixed +2 gray dragon scale mail", on T:11022 23:04 -!- gbmor has quit [Client Quit] 23:04 -!- gbmor has joined #hardfought 23:06 <@910rd> Is there a way to measure time elapsed since the start of the game? 23:07 <@Shadow_Rider> prolly have to look at the ttyrecs or smth 23:08 <@Shadow_Rider> or use setseed 23:10 <@910rd> ty 23:11 [hdf-us] [nh370] HastyGlord (Val Dwa Fem Law), 170276 points, T:11067, quit 23:11 <@910rd> !lastgame HastyGlord 23:11 @910rd: [hdf-us] https://www.hardfought.org/userdata/H/HastyGlord/nethack/dumplog/1640070672.nh.html 23:14 I believe ^X will tell you gametime in 3.7.0 now. 23:17 <@910rd> alas 23:17 <@910rd> Thank you for the tip 23:28 [hdf-us] [dnh] phaperplane2 (Cav Hum Fem Neu) wished for "a blessed greased bag of holding", on T:138466 23:29 [hdf-us] [dnh] carlarc (Mad Hlf Mal Cha) entered Minetown for the first time, on T:8490 23:31 -!- Umbire has quit [Quit: Umbire zaps a wand of digging!] 23:46 [hdf-us] [slth] dns (Fla Dro Fem Cha), 11264 points, T:2775, killed by a wolf 23:47 Where can I find the 2021 TNNT xlogfile? https://www.hardfought.org/tnnt/archives/2021/xlogfiles/xlogfile.tnnt.2021 is 404 23:53 [hdf-us] [nh370] dpmdpm (Wiz Gno Fem Neu), 10756 points, T:7512, killed by an anti-magic implosion 23:56 found them on https://www.hardfought.org/xlogfiles/tnnt/ on each region's server